Re: PAW: winter storm

[Boros Attila]

Hello Herb,

Very nice photos with a special Crhistmas feeling. The second is my
favorite, a wonderful big tree covered by snow.

Attila

Sunday, March 21, 2004, 2:27:48 AM, you wrote:

HC> this Friday morning, i took an extra 15 minutes to walk to my bus stop on
HC> the way to work and took 45 snapshots with my *istD. size of them are here.
HC> 4 are converted to grayscale and 2 are color. all are taken with the DA
HC> 16-45. my conclusion so far is that it is a nice sharp lens with some
HC> noticeable light falloff wide open. it appears to be a bit sharper than the
HC> FA 24-90 f3.5-4.5. now Pentax has to announce a DA 50-125 f4.0 or faster of
HC> the same quality.

HC> http://users.bestweb.net/~hchong/temp/

HC> Herb...




-- 
Best regards,
 Borosmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sydney Visit

[Chris]

Hi Stan,Suggest Sunday night at Doyles as before.The breakfast place is
Bondi Icebreakers in Notts Ave
Regards Chris K

Re: WOW - 60th Anniversary Photo

[Keith Whaley]

Love the photo!
It reminds me of a time when I walked across the tarmac to an F7F 
Tigercat, and had that damned seat chute banging me behind the knees all 
the way out.
I wish I had movies of that odd walk, and Mancini's music in the 
background!  
I needed help to pull my first leg up to the toehold for the climb up to 
the cockpit, simply because I had not learned the tricks of the trade...

And, that was almost 52 years ago!

Good photo! Repost with the cleaned up one, when it's done.

...and thanks for the memories!

keith whaley

Shel Belinkoff wrote:

This week is the 60th anniversary of this photo, my uncle
getting ready for his first solo flight in a trainer plane. 
I'd like to see what others can do with it.  I'll be putting
my final work up soon, as well.

Re: DOF and angle of view or focal length (long)

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Jens Bladt"
Subject: DOF and angle of view or focal length (long)


> Some of you people are very knowledgeable when it comes to optical
science.
> So, I would like to ask you this:
>
> On the internet there is an ongoing discussion about this subeject.
> Some say, that smaller formats have greater DOF (Photonet). They
say that in
> order to get comparable images, I must use shorter focal length to
go with
> the smaller format, thus achieving greater DOF. They are using
circle of
> confusion (COF) theories to support their point of view.
>
> I (and Photozone) say, that smaller formats only show a part of the
image,
> captured by a specific focal lenght. If I shoot the same scene
twice with
> the same camera, same lens (focal length( and same aperture and
focus point,
> you will get identical images on let's say APS and 35mm film - that
is for
> the part, that is covered by the smaller format (e.i. APS). I say
that the
> DOF of these two identical images - is exactly the same. I say that
focal
> length, aperure and focal distance determins the DOF.

This part is true, to an extent.
However, if you are going to use the same focal length, but change
formats, then really, camera to subject distance pretty much has to
change to be photographically useful.
Or, if you are going to change formats, but not camera to subject
distance, then you need to change lenses.

In theory, I think you are correct.

In practice, I find that I have to stop down a bit more on 6x7 to get
similar DOF as I get with 35mm, presuming a similar angle of view is
being done on both cameras.

>
> IMO COF theories are somewhat subjective, because the point to
where a point
> looks like a disc, depends on the degree of enlargement. I think
that the
> smaller image, captured by a shorter focal length needs more
enlargement,
> thus less appearing less sharp.

Well, yes. Of course.


William Robb

OT: Sports Illustrated digital workflow

[David Mann]

I haven't seen this posted here yet; apologies if someone has beaten me 
to it.

The article throws around a lot of numbers and equipment but its still 
quite interesting regardless.  My opinion is that there's a killing to 
be made by someone with some software smarts.  I wonder if they've 
tried iPhoto ;)

http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/multi_page.asp?cid=7-6453-6821

- Dave

http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/

Re: omg - i have my foot in the door (but now I am scared)...

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Tanya Mayer Photography"
Subject: omg - i have my foot in the door (but now I am scared)...


>
>
> Ok, guys, now this is serious stuff.
>


> Come guys, dig into your deepest, darkest pits of knowledge and
someone
> please offer me an answer, cause I am PACKING it here!
>

I don't think the istD is the best for TTL fill flash, but where I
have found that it comes close to working is at ISO 400, and then
bump the exposure comp down a wee bit as needed.

My preference is non ttl flash for fill, but I am a dinosaur.

I also think blown highlights are a part of life with digital
cameras.
Contrary to popular belief, the image quality from optically printed
film is still better than digital in most ways.

William Robb

Re: PAW: New Brighton Beach

[David Mann]

On Mar 22, 2004, at 02:25, Boris Liberman wrote:

Dave, I wonder where were you positioned when taking that shot. It
looks like you were high above the sea level  and probably quite
far from the person who's running on the beach.
Yep... I was on the pier which is quite high off the sand.  Our pier is 
actually quite boring - it's just a long strip of concrete.  I was 
rather blown away by the pier at Brighton in England with its arcades 
and carnival rides.  Heck, even Bognor Regis has a nightclub on their 
pier.

Apparently New Zealand is way roomier than, say, Israel. I couldn't
think of any place where I could take such an image with 200 mm
lens...
I does seem very roomy and spacious but the country is still quite 
small.  I think we're up to 4 million people now.  Most of our 
population is in the North Island, presumably because they have more 
flat land up there.

- Dave

http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/

Re: Travels with Stan - Australia chapter

[Keith Whaley]

It's silly to tell you to enjoy yourself, Stan, but I will!
Say hi to Chris for me.
Have a ball, and bring some photos back...

keith whaley
Los Angeles
Stan Halpin wrote:
'Tis now only 3 and a half days til our departure to Australia. Plans 
are falling into place. I have just made the fifth adjustment to my 
selection of lenses to take. I expect two more changes, at least, before 
I leave.

This coming weekend in Sydney. Nothing set there yet. An Australian 
friend, Sydney native currently posted to D.C., suggested Sunday 
breakfast at a Boat Club overlooking Bondi Beach. He drew me a map on 
the back of a napkin. He had had several beers. I was trying to keep up 
with him. I don't think I can read the map...

Anyway, if the Sydney locals want to link up with us Saturday or Sunday, 
we have a list (too long) of things to see and do and will be working 
our way through some of those.

On to Adelaide early next week. Will meet up with Robert and his wife, 
see if we can help alleviate some of the excess in dangerously 
overstocked wineries in the Barossa Valley. A few days of meetings and a 
train trip to...

Melbourne the following weekend. Sunday April 3 we may be able to join 
one or more Pauls, Leon and other Pentaxians in a wander through the CBD.

Then on to Canberra for more meetings, and home in time for Easter and 
income tax return preparation.

I am ready to be out of here and on the road!

Stan

omg - i have my foot in the door (but now I am scared)...

[Tanya Mayer Photography]

Ok, guys, now this is serious stuff.  I have just been booked for my very
first fashion shoot for the weekend of 16/17 April.  This is not just any
old fashion label though, it is actually for an agency.  It is a kids
agency, and they want me to shoot 40 kids over two days for their z-cards,
portfolios and the agency website.  I know that it might seem like "small
fry" to many of you, but to me, this is absolutely huge.  These guys are on
the Gold Coast and this is the mecca of modelling/acting for Queensland.  It
is equivalent to SoBe in the US.  If I do this well, not only will they use
me for their future stuff, but they will hopefully recommend me to their
clients, and this could mean big biccies.  Not only that, but I will be
making around AUD$1200 profit from these two days work, so my rates are
improving, and that will come in extremely handy with GFM only a few weeks
away.

I am not sure how much I have mentioned this to you all before, but fashion
is my aspiration.  I used to model myself, and my dream is to one day shoot
for the large fashion houses and agencies and to be invited to attend the
likes of New York and Paris fashion week.  (Ssssh, don't tell anyone, cause
I know it sounds like I have tickets on myself if I say that too often).
This is why I offer make up artistry, and costume design etc with my shoots
as it keeps my skills up and keeps me up to speed with the latest trends
etc.  During my trip to the US, I will also be spending a few days with a
good friend who is a very well known fashion photographer in NYC and who can
pretty much single handedly take the credit for me becoming so passionate
about photography in the first place.  When I first purchased my very first
SLR back in 2000, he saw what he calls "potential genius" in my (then VERY
bad) "stuff", and I used to send my unprocessed rolls of film to him and he
would hand process, and hand print and send them back to me (for free!),
telling me honestly if something was total crap, or if it was potentially
good.

Anyways, I digress...

The reason for this post is to ask for your help.  Since shooting with the
*istD, I have had MAJOR problems with blown out highlights.  I shot a
wedding last weekend which was on the beach at 11am and almost every shot
with the water in the background is totally blown out.  Likewise, when using
flash, I am having alot of overexposure problems too. And then, on the other
hand, a blown out shot will be followed by a shot that has a blue sky and
for the life of me, I can't figure out what it is I'd done differently. Now
my bg concern and problem here is that I will be shooting the kids
for this agency for two full days over a Saturday and a Sunday.  The light
will be varying alot over the time and they will all be shot on the beach!
Here is a link to the type of images they will be expecting:

http://www.kidzmodellingco.com.au/agent_enter.php?viewpass=Tal3nt#b1

How am I going to do this?  They booked me from the images that they saw of
the little girl that I shot the other week (the one with the curly red
hair - http://www.tanyamayer.com/avagallery/index.html ), and also from my
other images on my website.  They know what I can do, and I know that they
haven't booked me from word of mouth (ie somebody else saying "oooh, use
this girl.." and then them having way high expectations etc), it was
exclusively from my previous work.  But, honestly, after this last wedding
which was also on the beach and with similar lighting conditions to what
this shoot will be, I have really lost confidence in myself in a major way.

I presented my client with just over 300 average looking proofs.  Some were
ok, some were downright crap.  I came home with 450 shots on my CF cards,
and this 450 were culled down to the 300 that I offered them.  I probably
deleted another 50 or so during the course of the actual days shooting.  I
am not TOO concerned with the "strike rate" (I am kinda over that now), but
I am concerned about the blown out highlights.

The guys wore white shirts which were an absolute disaster to try and
expose.  The bride wore a dark pink dress (thank god!), imagine if it had
been white, I would have been totally up proverbial the creek.

Here is a link to the gallery so that you can see what I mean.  I am
probably shooting myself in the foot by showing you these, and you will all
think that I am positively hopeless and a clueless rank amateur at the very
best, but I guess I'll risk it in the hope that I'll learn something here...

http://www.tanyamayer.com/weddinggalleriesprivate/emeleus/index.html

I will be working with 40 children, over two days.  This means I need to
work FAST.  I probably won't have more than 30 mins per child, so I just
won't have time to be mucking around with checking histograms, and preview
pics etc.  I NEED them to work first time, every time.

So, I need to know WHAT AM I DOING WRONG?!?!  Why can't I get correct
exposure of both the foreground (shaded) objects AND t

DOF and angle of view or focal length (long)

[Jens Bladt]

Some of you people are very knowledgeable when it comes to optical science.
So, I would like to ask you this:

On the internet there is an ongoing discussion about this subeject.
Some say, that smaller formats have greater DOF (Photonet). They say that in
order to get comparable images, I must use shorter focal length to go with
the smaller format, thus achieving greater DOF. They are using circle of
confusion (COF) theories to support their point of view.

I (and Photozone) say, that smaller formats only show a part of the image,
captured by a specific focal lenght. If I shoot the same scene twice with
the same camera, same lens (focal length( and same aperture and focus point,
you will get identical images on let's say APS and 35mm film - that is for
the part, that is covered by the smaller format (e.i. APS). I say that the
DOF of these two identical images - is exactly the same. I say that focal
length, aperure and focal distance determins the DOF.

IMO COF theories are somewhat subjective, because the point to where a point
looks like a disc, depends on the degree of enlargement. I think that the
smaller image, captured by a shorter focal length needs more enlargement,
thus less appearing less sharp.

What is right and wrong here?


Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt

RE: Pentaxian arrested in Kosovo

[frank theriault]

I'm just getting home from being away for the weekend, and I'm shocked to 
see this post!

Thank goodness you're okay, Andreas!  Too bad about the money and the 
camera, but your health and safety are far more important.

It must have been a harrowing experience.  You were arrested for nothing 
more than taking a photo?  Did you have press accreditation with you?  Can 
your country's embassy in Kosovo help you to recover the money or camera?

I'm still shocked (but relieved you're okay).

regards,
frank
"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist 
fears it is true."  -J. Robert Oppenheimer




From: Andreas Wirtz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Pentaxian arrested in Kosovo
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 13:30:34 -0800 (PST)
Here is link to my last photography taken on assigment
in Kosovo few days ago. It was taken in Prishtina on
main street which is named Bill Clinton Bulevard (look
at giant picture on top right corner). Unfortunately
on left corner two policemen approachig arrested me.
After two days, 1000 EUR and Pentax Z-1 given to
"authorities" I was able to go to Macedonia and then
to home.
It is clear that war photography is so danger that
I'll never again return to such places.
http://www.mobisux.com/album/data/500/7575pristina_mala2.jpg

Best regards,
Andreas Wirtz






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WOW - 60th Anniversary Photo

[Shel Belinkoff]

This week is the 60th anniversary of this photo, my uncle
getting ready for his first solo flight in a trainer plane. 
I'd like to see what others can do with it.  I'll be putting
my final work up soon, as well.

http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/pilot.jpg

RE: Double Exposure:paw

[frank theriault]

Ooops.

I just re-read our initial post, Dave, and I see it was taken with your 
trusty SP500.

And, just to clarify, I didn't find the squiggley bits around the moon to be 
overly distracting.  I was saying that they bother me, when I see them on my 
scans.  Not too bad on yours, though.

We need a TOPDML soon.  It's been too long.

cheers,
frank
"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist 
fears it is true."  -J. Robert Oppenheimer




From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Double Exposure:paw
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 23:10:21 -0500
Pretty cool shot, Dave!

The squiggles, if they're an artifact of the scanning process, are 
something I get all the time, and it really pisses me off.  If you figure 
out a way to get rid of it, lemme know!

I really like that image, though.  What camera were they taken with?

cheers,
frank
"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The 
pessimist fears it is true."  -J. Robert Oppenheimer




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Double Exposure:paw
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 09:08:50 US/Eastern
  	Hi all.
Submitting a double exposure i did during last falls Lunar eclipse. The 
star swerls were
about 10 min on
bulb and the moon shot 125 at f 11.
Used the sp500 2x converter and the tak 200 f4.
There are some jaggies around the moon,but i hope thats not much of a 
distraction.
Scanned at a low dpi.

Dave
http://www.caughtinmotion.com/PAW/double.jpg

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RE: Double Exposure:paw

[frank theriault]

Pretty cool shot, Dave!

The squiggles, if they're an artifact of the scanning process, are something 
I get all the time, and it really pisses me off.  If you figure out a way to 
get rid of it, lemme know!

I really like that image, though.  What camera were they taken with?

cheers,
frank
"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist 
fears it is true."  -J. Robert Oppenheimer




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Double Exposure:paw
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 09:08:50 US/Eastern
  	Hi all.
Submitting a double exposure i did during last falls Lunar eclipse. The 
star swerls were
about 10 min on
bulb and the moon shot 125 at f 11.
Used the sp500 2x converter and the tak 200 f4.
There are some jaggies around the moon,but i hope thats not much of a 
distraction.
Scanned at a low dpi.

Dave
http://www.caughtinmotion.com/PAW/double.jpg

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Re: PAW #6: Tough Boy

[frank theriault]

Hi, Marnie,

Thanks for the comments.  Glad you thought it was interesting.

Also, I did reply to some specific questions and comments, but for those to 
whom I haven't specifically replied, thanks for taking the time to comment.  
I didn't want to waste bandwidth, replying to each and every one of you, 
unless your comment required a specific answer.

And, Marnie, I agree that the explanation wasn't necessary.  I left the 
photo for a couple of days before that post.  There seemed to be a few who 
were a bit unsettled about the photo, so I thought that some background 
might be helpful.  Normally, I'll just let the photo do the talking, but in 
this case, the photo may not have portrayed what was seemingly going on.

Anyway, again, thanks for taking the time to look and to comment, to you and 
everyone else who did so.

cheers,
frank
"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist 
fears it is true."  -J. Robert Oppenheimer




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: PAW #6: Tough Boy
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 16:11:25 EST
>In a message dated 3/20/2004 4:27:10 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>So I quite purposely put the photo up without the foregoing info, just to
see how people reacted.  For the most part, reactions were were what I 
would
have expected.
>thanks,
frank

I thought it might possibly be father and son. Father taking son to task 
for
smoking or about to hug him. The "boy" looks almost young enough to still 
be
hugged by Dad, when not acting tough that is. ;-)

Interesting photo, frank.

Not necessary to know history, really.

Marnie aka Doe  Unless it just makes it more interesting.

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Re: PAW - Tres Amigos Redux

[John Mustarde]

On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 15:43:31 EST, you wrote:

>SB> I changed the crop a bit, burnt down some bright areas, and
>SB> adjusted the toning.  Comments welcome, of course.
>
>SB> Adjusted version: 
>SB> http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/images/tres-2.html
>
>SB> Original version:
>SB> http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/images/tres-s.html
>
>Hmmm, strange reaction on my part, I actually like the first one better. Went 
>back and forth to see why. Like line of wood (cabinet, door?) down the right 
>side. Don't know why, specifically.
>
>Marnie aka Doe 

I like the first one better, also.  The paper on the door or wall or
whatever it is to the right, plus the headroom adding ceiling height
above the stacked cans on the back wall, give size perspective to the
boys - they are boys without a doubt, naturally smaller but small in
perfect ratio to the other visual cues of the shop.  

When the door is cropped, that piece of paper is removed, the ceiling
height reference above the stacked cans removed, the boys become
indeterminate in age and size, or maybe their size becomes incongruous
with the other size hints in the scene.  The reference that guides one
to their height is gone.  Their height is no longer in natural ratio
to the other objects in the shop.

--
John Mustarde
www.photolin.com

Re: OT? Noise: Was about to buy a scanner

[Mishka]

with nikon 4000 you normally won't see any noise even at 1x pass,
unless you do some severe tweaking with curves/levels. the noise will
be in the most dense parts of the thing that's being scanned. for
neg those are highlights.
mishka

Shel Belinkoff wrote:

I don't know what noise looks like on a digital camera.  I'm
scanning B&W negative film. Would the noise be in the
highlights or the shadows as I see the positive in the
screen? Yes, I'm scanning max bit depth (if by that you mean
14 or 16 bits).  Scanner supports up to 16x multi pass.

Re: PAW - Zion National Park

[Larry Hodgson]

Rob Studdert said:

>Another great set of images Larry. Images 2 and 4 are my favourites out of
the
>set although each has its particular attraction. On the technical side, I'm
>interested in how you set the elevation of your rows, what are you using
for
>your pano head? Also I see that the images appear pretty sharp front to
back,
>did you alter the focus at all during the multi-image shoots? At what
>temperature do you process in PS with CS? :-)

As far as elevation goes, I figure how many rows and columns I want and then
just mentally note where the seams will be and shoot for maximum overlap.

As far as pano head goes, it's just a cheap lightweight tripod with a simple
3 way head. No special pano head.

As noted, all shots were at f22 which gives plenty of DOF so I just set
manual focus at infinity.

I do all my PS processing at room temperature  :-)


Paul Stenquist said:

>Great shots, Larry. Which images were stitched? It's not easy to tell,
>which means you did a good job :-).

Not easy or impossible?  1 and 3 were stitched as noted above each image.


Stan Halpin wrote:

>We all hate you. No one should be allowed to live 'a short
>trip' from the places you have shown us unless they are dead.

Hey Stan, come on out and visit and we can shoot together and then you can
be hated also !!!

Larry from Prescott

Travels with Stan - Australia chapter

[Stan Halpin]

'Tis now only 3 and a half days til our departure to 
Australia. Plans are falling into place. I have just made 
the fifth adjustment to my selection of lenses to take. I 
expect two more changes, at least, before I leave.

This coming weekend in Sydney. Nothing set there yet. An 
Australian friend, Sydney native currently posted to D.C., 
suggested Sunday breakfast at a Boat Club overlooking Bondi 
Beach. He drew me a map on the back of a napkin. He had had 
several beers. I was trying to keep up with him. I don't 
think I can read the map...

Anyway, if the Sydney locals want to link up with us 
Saturday or Sunday, we have a list (too long) of things to 
see and do and will be working our way through some of those.

On to Adelaide early next week. Will meet up with Robert and 
his wife, see if we can help alleviate some of the excess in 
dangerously overstocked wineries in the Barossa Valley. A 
few days of meetings and a train trip to...

Melbourne the following weekend. Sunday April 3 we may be 
able to join one or more Pauls, Leon and other Pentaxians in 
a wander through the CBD.

Then on to Canberra for more meetings, and home in time for 
Easter and income tax return preparation.

I am ready to be out of here and on the road!

Stan

Re: PAW - Zion National Park

[Herb Chong]

there are at least two identified in the caption text.

Herb...
- Original Message - 
From: "Steve Jolly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 9:35 PM
Subject: Re: PAW - Zion National Park


> Paul, I'm assuming it's the top-right panoramic one, with the caption 
> that starts "Compostion of 5 images stitched together." ;-)

Re: PAW - Zion National Park

[Steve Jolly]

Excellent photos.  I was almost inspired to go out and take some river 
photos myself until I remembered that the only running water near here 
is either in ditches or an enormous tidal estuary... ;-)

#4 is my favourite.

S

Larry Hodgson wrote:

Took another short trip this weekend. This time it was to Zion National Park
in southern Utah. I wanted to get some shots in the Narrows section of the
Virgin River. The link below is to 5 shots I took in or near The Narrows.
All these were taken with *istD with FA 28 2.8 at f22 and 6 to 8 seconds.
Had to use polarizer and 3 stop ND to get the shutter speed down to where I
wanted it. All images were processed with PS CS. The stitched images took a
lot of work to get just right.
The Narrows section of the Virgin River gets really narrow way up the
canyon. There are places where you can touch both canyon walls at the same
time and it is 800' to the top. I did not get that far up this time as the
water was too cold and too deep. I plan to go back later in the year when it
is warmer with less flow.
Comments welcome.

Larry from Prescott

The link:
http://tripodman.smugmug.com/gallery/85647

Re: PAW - Zion National Park

[Steve Jolly]

Paul, I'm assuming it's the top-right panoramic one, with the caption 
that starts "Compostion of 5 images stitched together." ;-)

S

Paul Stenquist wrote:

Great shots, Larry. Which images were stitched? It's not easy to tell, 
which means you did a good job :-).
Paul
On Mar 21, 2004, at 2:34 PM, Larry Hodgson wrote:

Took another short trip this weekend. This time it was to Zion 
National Park
in southern Utah. I wanted to get some shots in the Narrows section of 
the
Virgin River. The link below is to 5 shots I took in or near The Narrows.
All these were taken with *istD with FA 28 2.8 at f22 and 6 to 8 seconds.
Had to use polarizer and 3 stop ND to get the shutter speed down to 
where I
wanted it. All images were processed with PS CS. The stitched images 
took a
lot of work to get just right.

The Narrows section of the Virgin River gets really narrow way up the
canyon. There are places where you can touch both canyon walls at the 
same
time and it is 800' to the top. I did not get that far up this time as 
the
water was too cold and too deep. I plan to go back later in the year 
when it
is warmer with less flow.

Comments welcome.

Larry from Prescott

The link:
http://tripodman.smugmug.com/gallery/85647

Re: PAW - Zion National Park

[Stan Halpin]

We all hate you. No one should be allowed to live 'a short 
trip' from the places you have shown us unless they are dead.

Stan

Larry Hodgson wrote:

Took another short trip this weekend. This time it was to Zion National Park
in southern Utah. I wanted to get some shots in the Narrows section of the
Virgin River. The link below is to 5 shots I took in or near The Narrows.
All these were taken with *istD with FA 28 2.8 at f22 and 6 to 8 seconds.
Had to use polarizer and 3 stop ND to get the shutter speed down to where I
wanted it. All images were processed with PS CS. The stitched images took a
lot of work to get just right.
The Narrows section of the Virgin River gets really narrow way up the
canyon. There are places where you can touch both canyon walls at the same
time and it is 800' to the top. I did not get that far up this time as the
water was too cold and too deep. I plan to go back later in the year when it
is warmer with less flow.
Comments welcome.

Larry from Prescott

The link:
http://tripodman.smugmug.com/gallery/85647

Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V04 #647

[John Forbes]

As long as you use either the AF360FGZ in wireless mode, or one of the 
other Pentax digital flashes with the 5p sync cord system, you will have 
all the facilities off-camera that you do on-camera.

See Boz's site for details.

http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/technology/offCameraFlash.html

The F280T, unfortunately, is not a digital flash, so that will limit you 
somewhat.  I think it will still work, but you won't have the pleasures of 
second curtain sync, or contrast control.  As I understand it, it will 
work with either the 4p or the 5p cord systems, but if you buy the former 
you won't then be able to use digital flashes later.

I have found Amazon to be a cheap supplier of most of this stuff.  B&H is 
the US is good, but shipping is tres cher, though if you live in Cap 
d'Antibes, you're probably used to that.

John

(Not at all envious of those who live in Antibes)

On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 17:39:29 -0500, Clive Evans 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

HI all
Some advice please?
I have recently [well is on its way!] acquired aPZ1P and 28-105 AF to 
work
alongside my Lxen.
I really want to be able to do fully auto off camera fill flash [like you
can witha N***N F100 , SB28 Flash and SC17 cord] is there a similar setup
for the PZ1-P?
I already have an AF280T, off camera grip etc.
Any input very welcome
Clive
Antibes
France




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Re: Need help removing a stripped screw

[graywolf]

For small screws what is usually used is a reverse twist drill bit in a pin 
vise. You can buy them from Micro Tools.

http://www.micro-tools.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=MT&Product_Code=LHDBSET 

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Paul Stenquist wrote:
I would leave it to a pro repair person. There are a variety of ways to 
remove damaged fasteners. One is to drill a hold in the middle of said 
fastener and use an "easy-out" spiral threaded remover. But that's 
extremely difficult with tiny fasteners. Another method involves gluing 
a "wrench" to the head of said fastener with a two-part epoxy. But that 
is equally difficult. There is no easy way to do it. Is it a Phillipas 
or a slotted screw? The tools are not interchangeable. A pro might be 
able to loosen the screw with a proper tool.

On Mar 21, 2004, at 5:36 PM, Mike wrote:

Hi all,

I need help with removing a base plate screw that has a 
stripped/rounded head?  Apparently a previous owner had attempted to 
loosen the screw without success.

I'm not able to bite into the head and get a turning grip with the 
small phillips or flat head (slotted) screwdrivers I have.

Does anyone have any surefire solutions for removing the screw?  Or 
should I leave it to a professional repair person.

Thanks,

Mike



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RE: GF Mountain. Attn: Fairygirl

[tom]

> -Original Message-
> From: Joseph Tainter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 
> Tanya, when you meet Cotty, would you get his autograph for 
> me? He's been on TV.

I categorically deny this pernicious rumor.

tv

Re: Rome Photoshow and PDML meeting

[Gianfranco Irlanda]

Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flamin/F_and_G.jpg
> 
> Jumping Jupiter. Gianco, if you're coming over for a few pints
we're
> going to have to do something about that bloody great badger
stuck to
> your chin! I'll dig out the lawn strimmer before we meet. You
got
> planning permission for that lot? And never mind about posing
for us to
> see - who's the bird behind you?

I'll see what I can do with the badger... 
Is there any contraindication wearing a not-really-long beard in
UK??
:-P 
The bird is a model at the Polaroid stand (I have a closer view
on film; I should bring it to the lab tomorrow - I cannot
gurantee for the results, though: I shoot with my flash and lens
almost wide open but there was the added light of a
strobo+umbrella set in slave mode...).
There was a flock of other interesting birds flying around there
and I tried to report the event the best I could.
;-)

Ciao,

Gianco

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Re: Need help removing a stripped screw

[Rob Studdert]

On 21 Mar 2004 at 18:11, William Robb wrote:

> If you are brave you can use a small drill bit to drill the head off
> the screw. After that, remove the base plate and you should be able
> to remove the shank of the screw with fine pliers.
> Safest is to let a repair shop handle it, though.

But before you resort to this type of action you might try judiciously applying 
a little heat. If you press a 30w electronics soldering iron to the head of the 
screw for 10 seconds you might find it a little easier to move soon after the 
heat dissipates. The problem with these types of screws is that they are only 
holding very thin metal and drilling their heads off can leave far too little 
shank to be able to grab on to. Another option might be to employ a dremel or 
similar grinding tool to create a slot to accommodate a slotted driver.


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998

Re: Grandfather Mountain, was Re: It's official!!

[Chris Brogden]

On Sun, 21 Mar 2004, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

> Cotty wrote:
> >
> > >> On 19/3/04, A CANADIAN HOMESTEADER discumbobulated:
> > >>
> > >> >> So this is a very famous contest ?
> > >> >
> > >> >It seems to attract participants literally from the four corners
> > >of
> > >> >the globe.
> > >> >I am sad that I am unable to attend this one.
> > >> >
> > >> >William Robb
> > >>
> > >> Bob, I'll be toasting you around the campfire.
> > >>
> > >> I have a small effigy ready on a skewer..
> > >
> > >Whose Bob?
> >
> > It's a sort of contraction of Bill Robb...
>
> A lossy Jpeg compression :)
> annsan

Not so much lossy as just plain lousy.  :)

chris

Re: Need help removing a stripped screw

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Mike"
Subject: Need help removing a stripped screw


> Hi all,
>
> I need help with removing a base plate screw that has a
stripped/rounded
> head?  Apparently a previous owner had attempted to loosen the
screw
> without success.
>
> I'm not able to bite into the head and get a turning grip with the
small
> phillips or flat head (slotted) screwdrivers I have.
>
> Does anyone have any surefire solutions for removing the screw?  Or
should
> I leave it to a professional repair person.

If you are brave you can use a small drill bit to drill the head off
the screw. After that, remove the base plate and you should be able
to remove the shank of the screw with fine pliers.
Safest is to let a repair shop handle it, though.

Why are you wanting to remove the base plate anyway?

William Robb

GF Mountain. Attn: Fairygirl

[Joseph Tainter]

Tanya, when you meet Cotty, would you get his autograph for me? He's 
been on TV.

Joe

Re: Rome Photoshow and PDML meeting

[Cotty]

On 21/3/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] discumbobulated:

>I can add my two cents there: here is a picture of Gianfranca and me.

>http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flamin/F_and_G.jpg

Jumping Jupiter. Gianco, if you're coming over for a few pints we're
going to have to do something about that bloody great badger stuck to
your chin! I'll dig out the lawn strimmer before we meet. You got
planning permission for that lot? And never mind about posing for us to
see - who's the bird behind you?


Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: PAW - Zion National Park

[Paul Stenquist]

Great shots, Larry. Which images were stitched? It's not easy to tell, 
which means you did a good job :-).
Paul
On Mar 21, 2004, at 2:34 PM, Larry Hodgson wrote:

Took another short trip this weekend. This time it was to Zion 
National Park
in southern Utah. I wanted to get some shots in the Narrows section of 
the
Virgin River. The link below is to 5 shots I took in or near The 
Narrows.
All these were taken with *istD with FA 28 2.8 at f22 and 6 to 8 
seconds.
Had to use polarizer and 3 stop ND to get the shutter speed down to 
where I
wanted it. All images were processed with PS CS. The stitched images 
took a
lot of work to get just right.

The Narrows section of the Virgin River gets really narrow way up the
canyon. There are places where you can touch both canyon walls at the 
same
time and it is 800' to the top. I did not get that far up this time as 
the
water was too cold and too deep. I plan to go back later in the year 
when it
is warmer with less flow.

Comments welcome.

Larry from Prescott

The link:
http://tripodman.smugmug.com/gallery/85647

Re: PAW

[Steve Jolly]

Cotty wrote:
When one flag is up, Bill is in residence. When two are up, he's logged on :-)
Is the left-hand flag the Tricolore, or a windsock? :-)

Excellent documentary photography IMO, Bill.  I think it needs the 
context to be interesting, but given the context, interesting it is :-) 
 In your place, I might try boosting the saturation a little, although 
I suspect you left the colours deliberately muted to give it the nice 
"wintry" feel...

S

PAW - Zion National Park

[Larry Hodgson]

Took another short trip this weekend. This time it was to Zion National Park
in southern Utah. I wanted to get some shots in the Narrows section of the
Virgin River. The link below is to 5 shots I took in or near The Narrows.
All these were taken with *istD with FA 28 2.8 at f22 and 6 to 8 seconds.
Had to use polarizer and 3 stop ND to get the shutter speed down to where I
wanted it. All images were processed with PS CS. The stitched images took a
lot of work to get just right.

The Narrows section of the Virgin River gets really narrow way up the
canyon. There are places where you can touch both canyon walls at the same
time and it is 800' to the top. I did not get that far up this time as the
water was too cold and too deep. I plan to go back later in the year when it
is warmer with less flow.

Comments welcome.

Larry from Prescott

The link:
http://tripodman.smugmug.com/gallery/85647

Re: PAW; The First Day of Spring

[Steve Jolly]

On my laptop display, yes :-)  It tends to blow out highlights all by 
itself...

S

Shel Belinkoff wrote:

Did you really need the histogram to see that?

Steve Jolly wrote:

Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> The front petals on both
flowers are blown out on my monitor, and they don't seem
to have much more detail on the calibrated monitor either.
You're right - it's obvious if you look at the histogram; there's a
biiig spike at the white end (and a bit of room at the dark end).
S

Re: usd money....

[Otis Wright]

Joseph Tainter wrote:

Tanya, in re: your large purchase, you should know that you may be 
limited to withdrawing $300 or so at a time (or per day) from ATM 
machines. Also, CC fraud is sufficiently rampant that if you suddenly 
start making large, daily purchases, and don't ordinarily do so, your 
CC company may assume that your card has been stolen and cut you off. 
It's unlikely, but it does happen.

I travel a lot, here and overseas, and carry travelers' cheques and 
some cash.

Joe


In my opinion--- based on personal experience --- excellent advice.

Otis Wright.

Re: usd money....

[Otis Wright]

Cotty wrote:

On 21/3/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] discumbobulated:

 

Visa is very widely accepted here, however the snack bar on GFM is cash
only.  There is an ATM in the museum, but I'm not sure how much can be
withdrawn from it.  You won't need much cash on the mountain except for
souvenirs and maybe a lunch or two.
   

Bill, do you think the bears will take traveller's checks ?

Most certainly.  And your watch.  And your arm.   And...

Otis Wright

Cheers,
 Cotty
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Re: usd money....

[Otis Wright]

Just a bit of caution here.  From personal experience, I can say that 
you can have trouble with the Visa/Master cards here in the US and 
elsewhere, especially when travelling,  due to profile exceptions 
showing up in the automated fraud prevention programs.   Sorting it out 
can range from a simple phone call or frustratingly difficult series of 
communications and delays depending on access to a sane, intelligent rep 
and the nature of the exception.  In one case someone had started to use 
my card no. in another country.  The card co. just shut the card off 
including in process charges which I had to clear one by one in the 
following days.  But, I'm not complaining: very few of the bad charges 
ever got to my account and those that did were reversed on the following 
statement -- no questions.   I was offered  a replacement  new account 
card by "express courier", but that wasn't practical due to my 
schedule.  Fortunately, I had other cards.  I believe there was an 
accounting of similar experiences by a few persons in one of the recent 
"Electronic Design" columns.
American Express has never been a problem for me, except once in a 
country where all credit card transactions were suspended for awhile 
throughout the entire country.  (That was an interesting experience to 
say the least.)I try to get by on credit cards when traveling, but  
I always carry some "emergency" cash and some other backup source of 
funds like travelers checks, letter of credit, etc. just in case --- 
however,  I  really hate being hung up chasing funds when I'm traveling 
--- so I take more precautions than most would find necessary.

Otis Wright

Peter J. Alling wrote:

We invented it.  It used to be called BankAmeracard, I remember when 
the name was changed.  You shouldn't have any
trouble using it but I'd look into  the conversion rate your bank may 
charge, it's usually quite competitive but I've only been
changing from US dollars.

Tanya Mayer Photography wrote:

Just wondering - with regards to my USA trip - I was thinking of not
bringing any cash at all, and just paying my spending money off my 
visa. It
will be a great help for tax purposes etc, and I rarely carry cash 
here any
more, I usually use EFTPOS for everything. How widely accepted is 
VISA in
the States?  Are you able to pay taxi's etc with VISA?  Or should I 
carry
some cash with me?  What about on GFM?  Are there any teller machines 
that
will allow me to withdraw cash from my VISA?  I have a pretty large 
purchase
that I will be making whilst I am over there and will need to get my 
hands
on at least USD$650 whilst I am  on the mountain (or beforehand to bring
with me)

tan.

 

Re: usd money....

[graywolf]

I think what happens is that Visa pays the bank in local currency and charges 
you in your own at their regular rates.

--

Paul Stenquist wrote:

I don't know if the opposite is true, but when I need to buy Euros, 
Pesos, or other currencies with my US dollars, I get the best deal by 
using an ATM machine in the country I'm visiting. That way I get the 
exchange rate without a surcharge.
Paul
On Mar 20, 2004, at 6:35 PM, William Robb wrote:

I have always found having some cash available to be handy when
traveling in the USA. You will want to buy any US dollars you intend
to carry prior to leaving, as American banks tend to look kinda
nervously at foreigners
William Robb

- Original Message -
From: "Tanya Mayer Photography"
Subject: usd money



Just wondering - with regards to my USA trip - I was thinking of
not

bringing any cash at all, and just paying my spending money off my
visa. It

will be a great help for tax purposes etc, and I rarely carry cash
here any

more, I usually use EFTPOS for everything. How widely accepted is
VISA in

the States?  Are you able to pay taxi's etc with VISA?  Or should I
carry

some cash with me?  What about on GFM?  Are there any teller
machines that

will allow me to withdraw cash from my VISA?  I have a pretty large
purchase

that I will be making whilst I am over there and will need to get
my hands

on at least USD$650 whilst I am  on the mountain (or beforehand to
bring

with me)

tan.







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http://graywolfphoto.com
"You might as well accept people as they are,
you are not going to be able to change them anyway."

Re: usd money....

[graywolf]

You will find teller machines all over that place. 90+% of businesses will take 
Visa. I seem to remember that there is a teller machine at the gift shop on GFM. 
That said there are always those little things that you just can not use the 
card for, so some pocket cash would be a good idea.

One of the problems you will run into is that many banks over here do not want 
to business with you unless you have an account with them, it is annoying even 
to us who live here. So, outside of tourist centers and big cities it may be 
almost impossible to exchange forign currency, as Bill Robbs said, however you 
should not have a problem with teller machines and your Visa card.

I can tell a horror story about being a long way from home out of cash, out of 
gas, when my bank decided to shut their computers down for the weekend for 
maintainance. But that was with a straight debit card. I no longer use a 
straight debit card, or that bank, of course.

--

Tanya Mayer Photography wrote:

Just wondering - with regards to my USA trip - I was thinking of not
bringing any cash at all, and just paying my spending money off my visa. It
will be a great help for tax purposes etc, and I rarely carry cash here any
more, I usually use EFTPOS for everything. How widely accepted is VISA in
the States?  Are you able to pay taxi's etc with VISA?  Or should I carry
some cash with me?  What about on GFM?  Are there any teller machines that
will allow me to withdraw cash from my VISA?  I have a pretty large purchase
that I will be making whilst I am over there and will need to get my hands
on at least USD$650 whilst I am  on the mountain (or beforehand to bring
with me)
tan.


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http://graywolfphoto.com
"You might as well accept people as they are,
you are not going to be able to change them anyway."

Re: PAW

[Cotty]

>> This is a shot of some repairs being done to our local lake. It has
>> been quite the undertaking, as the lake was completely drained of
>> water last fall, and as soon as the ground was frozen hard enough to
>> allow, heavy equipment started the process of removing some million
>> and a half cubic yards of material from the lake bottom.
>>
>> http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/paw/IMGP2588.jpg
>>
>>
>> William Robb

>That's presumably your place in the background, Rob.  Very nice!
>
>John

When one flag is up, Bill is in residence. When two are up, he's logged on :-)


Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: usd money....

[John Forbes]

It's a good point about the card getting confiscated, or even lost, stolen 
or going wrong.  I always carry two or three.  The rates tend to be very 
competitive.

If you buy travellers cheques, they MUST be US$.  Anything else is so 
rarely seen that it will be treated with the gravest suspicion.

John

On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 10:52:16 -0700, Joseph Tainter 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Tanya, in re: your large purchase, you should know that you may be 
limited to withdrawing $300 or so at a time (or per day) from ATM 
machines. Also, CC fraud is sufficiently rampant that if you suddenly 
start making large, daily purchases, and don't ordinarily do so, your CC 
company may assume that your card has been stolen and cut you off. It's 
unlikely, but it does happen.

I travel a lot, here and overseas, and carry travelers' cheques and some 
cash.

Joe




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Re: PAW

[John Forbes]

Sorry, I meant William.  When people have surnames that are similar to 
forenames, small brains sometimes get confused.

John

On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 18:06:58 -, John Forbes 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

That's presumably your place in the background, Rob.  Very nice!

John

On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 11:52:42 -0600, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

This is a shot of some repairs being done to our local lake. It has
been quite the undertaking, as the lake was completely drained of
water last fall, and as soon as the ground was frozen hard enough to
allow, heavy equipment started the process of removing some million
and a half cubic yards of material from the lake bottom.
http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/paw/IMGP2588.jpg

William Robb








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Re: PAW

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "John Forbes"
Subject: Re: PAW


> That's presumably your place in the background, Rob.  Very nice!

I wish. Thats where we keep our provincial politicians caged up so we
know where they are.

William Robb

Re: PAW

[John Forbes]

That's presumably your place in the background, Rob.  Very nice!

John

On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 11:52:42 -0600, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

This is a shot of some repairs being done to our local lake. It has
been quite the undertaking, as the lake was completely drained of
water last fall, and as soon as the ground was frozen hard enough to
allow, heavy equipment started the process of removing some million
and a half cubic yards of material from the lake bottom.
http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/paw/IMGP2588.jpg

William Robb





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PAW

[William Robb]

This is a shot of some repairs being done to our local lake. It has
been quite the undertaking, as the lake was completely drained of
water last fall, and as soon as the ground was frozen hard enough to
allow, heavy equipment started the process of removing some million
and a half cubic yards of material from the lake bottom.

http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/paw/IMGP2588.jpg


William Robb

Re: usd money....

[Joseph Tainter]

Tanya, in re: your large purchase, you should know that you may be 
limited to withdrawing $300 or so at a time (or per day) from ATM 
machines. Also, CC fraud is sufficiently rampant that if you suddenly 
start making large, daily purchases, and don't ordinarily do so, your CC 
company may assume that your card has been stolen and cut you off. It's 
unlikely, but it does happen.

I travel a lot, here and overseas, and carry travelers' cheques and some 
cash.

Joe

Re: usd money....

[Cotty]

On 21/3/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] discumbobulated:

>Visa is very widely accepted here, however the snack bar on GFM is cash
>only.  There is an ATM in the museum, but I'm not sure how much can be
>withdrawn from it.  You won't need much cash on the mountain except for
>souvenirs and maybe a lunch or two.

Bill, do you think the bears will take traveller's checks ?


Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: "digital" infared?

[Joseph Tainter]

Tanya, this guy has a plug-in that claims to give an infrared effect:

http://www.fredmiranda.com/software/

I haven't tried this. I do have his noise reducer plug-in and am very 
pleased with it. It seems to soften less than other noise reducesrs.

Joe

Re: LX and lenses, revisited

[Peter J. Alling]

The mirror lock up could be a weak battery, the slower mirror return on 
automatic could be, probably is
due to the OTF meter inaccurately reading the pressure plate which is a 
bit darker than film.  I'd stay away
from the 400/5.6.  If it is fungus it's going to be expensive and never 
be the same, even if it's oil it'll probably
be expensive.  I find that 400mm is really too close 300mm to carry 
both.  The 300mm A* f4.0 if mint
is a bargain at that price. 

Aric wrote:

Thank you to all who replied, both privately by email and on-list, regarding
the LX+lenses kit I asked about.
The LX has "sticky mirror" syndrome.  At least, I think it does.  The
symptoms are: slower mirror return when on automatic, but reading a shutter
speed of 1/30s, than when manually set to 1/30s; and mirror locking up on
one occasion when on "Automatic," only to "un-lockup" upon rotation of the
shutter speed dial off of "Automatic."
The 400/5.6 appears to have either oil or fungus on an interior element.
I'm leaning toward it being oil.
I erred on the 300mm lens specification.  It is an A* lens, but it's the
300/4.  Still a great lens, by accounts I've read on Stan's site, but is it
still a great deal?
Aric



 

Re: PAW: winter storm

[Joseph Tainter]

My limited tests indicate the same, Herb. The DA 16-45 is in a class 
optically with the FA 20-35.

Joe

Re: LX and lenses, revisited

[William Robb]

> - Original Message - 
> From: "Aric"
> Subject: LX and lenses, revisited
>

> > The LX has "sticky mirror" syndrome.  At least, I think it does.
The
> > symptoms are: slower mirror return when on automatic, but reading
a
> shutter
> > speed of 1/30s, than when manually set to 1/30s; and mirror
locking up on
> > one occasion when on "Automatic," only to "un-lockup" upon
rotation of the
> > shutter speed dial off of "Automatic."

You are not describing sticky mirror, you are describing normal
operation of the LX when used on auto with no film present.
Sticky mirror manifests itself by an apparent loss of infinity focus
as the mirror rest disintigrates into black goo and allows the mirror
to misposition itself, and a very slow exposure start after the
shutter has been released the first time after the camera has sat for
a few hours.

William Robb

Re: hot highlights and the *ist D

[Joseph Tainter]

Paul, are you shooting with program metering? It will tend to overexpose 
highlights if you have a wide exposure range, since it is designed to 
bring out shadow details.

I've seen it written many times that digital is like slides in its 
exposure range. It has a narrower exposure range than color negative 
film. Highlights will get overexposed easily.

I have my *ist D and my two PZ-1ps set to center-weighted averaging, and 
occasionally use spot metering. I will almost never use program metering.

Joe

Re: LX and lenses, revisited

[Raimo K]

The LX reads light off the film and if there is no film the camera will read
off the black pressure plate and expose longer - so it might be OK.
All the best!
Raimo K
Personal photography homepage at:
http:\\www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho


- Original Message - 
From: "Aric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 6:03 PM
Subject: LX and lenses, revisited



> The LX has "sticky mirror" syndrome.  At least, I think it does.  The
> symptoms are: slower mirror return when on automatic, but reading a
shutter
> speed of 1/30s, than when manually set to 1/30s; and mirror locking up on
> one occasion when on "Automatic," only to "un-lockup" upon rotation of the
> shutter speed dial off of "Automatic."

>
> Aric
>
>

Re: PAW - Tres Amigos Redux

[Bruce Dayton]

The change is an improvement for me.  The crop works better and the
toning seems about right.  Nice shot, Shel!

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce


Sunday, March 21, 2004, 6:27:11 AM, you wrote:

SB> I changed the crop a bit, burnt down some bright areas, and
SB> adjusted the toning.  Comments welcome, of course.

SB> Adjusted version: 
SB> http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/images/tres-2.html

SB> Original version:
SB> http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/images/tres-s.html

Re: "digital" infared?

[Mark Cassino]

At 10:17 AM 3/21/2004 +1000, you wrote:

Ok, Photshoppers, I am looking to recreate the effect of infared photography
on my digital images...  Anyone got an action or a workflow that they use?
I sat down and tried to figure that out one day and concluded that about 
all you can do is 'hand color' the image in Photoshop to simulate an IR 
effect. The problem is that IR photos show how different materials reflect 
IR in different ways. So a green leaf next to a green shirt next to a green 
piece of metal all look different in a true IR shot, and just messing with 
the channels, levels, or curves won't successfully simulate that.

I experimented with a Hoya RM90 on the *ist-D and got some decent IR 
effect.  This filter basically blocks most visible light, allowing only the 
IR spectrum through. Here is an example:

http://www.markcassino.com/temp/IMGP0896.jpg

You get the nice gauzy light coming off the leaves.  I ran some other tests 
(which I can't locate right now) that revealed the nice black skies that IR 
produces.  But - the filter is a PITA to work with (you can't see through 
it, so you have to set everything up and then mount it) and exposre times 
go way up - like 30+ seconds at ISO 800.  But, it does produce a nice IR 
effect and I expect to make good use of the filter come summer (and sunshine).

- MCC
-
Mark Cassino Photography

Kalamazoo, MI

http://www.markcassino.com

-

LX and lenses, revisited

[Aric]

Thank you to all who replied, both privately by email and on-list, regarding
the LX+lenses kit I asked about.

The LX has "sticky mirror" syndrome.  At least, I think it does.  The
symptoms are: slower mirror return when on automatic, but reading a shutter
speed of 1/30s, than when manually set to 1/30s; and mirror locking up on
one occasion when on "Automatic," only to "un-lockup" upon rotation of the
shutter speed dial off of "Automatic."

The 400/5.6 appears to have either oil or fungus on an interior element.
I'm leaning toward it being oil.

I erred on the 300mm lens specification.  It is an A* lens, but it's the
300/4.  Still a great lens, by accounts I've read on Stan's site, but is it
still a great deal?

Aric

Re: Slide Dup for *ist D

[Michel Carrère-Gée]

I am pretty sure that the best method is going to turn out to be
extending the slide farther from the lens, but this will require a
custom made rod to mount the slide duplcator to the front of the
bellow, and a longer bellows from the slide holder to the lens.
It is true, the stem of slide-copier is a little short. A friend will 
manufacture me longer (20cm, diameter 12.7mm)

Re: PAW; The First Day of Spring

[Paul Stenquist]

Thanks Dave. I tried it first with a small tripod, but the blossoms 
wouldn't stop moving as there was a slight breeze. So I rigged up a 
flash and umbrella reflector,  got down in the dirt and hand held it.
On Mar 21, 2004, at 10:13 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  > > Paul Stenquist wrote:

Spring officially arrived today, and my Snowdrops cooperated by
blooming. It was a pretty day, sunny and 60 degree F temperatures. I
shot 70 frames or so and had a very nice afternoon.
My PAW is here
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2220242&size=lg


Great shot Paul.Almost has a "painting" feel to it.

Do you use one of those small tripods,reqular or do you lye in the 
dirt:-)

Dave  			

Re: PAW; The First Day of Spring

[brooksdj]

> > Paul Stenquist wrote:
> >
> >> Spring officially arrived today, and my Snowdrops cooperated by 
> >> blooming. It was a pretty day, sunny and 60 degree F temperatures. I 
> >> shot 70 frames or so and had a very nice afternoon.
> >> My PAW is here 
> >> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2220242&size=lg
> >
> 

Great shot Paul.Almost has a "painting" feel to it.

Do you use one of those small tripods,reqular or do you lye in the dirt:-)

Dave

Re: Slide Dup for *ist D

[William M Kane]

Problem is, I don't have the money for a slide scanner.  I'm not 
satisfied with the pain/time/results from my flatbed scanner.  I'm 
imagining that this can be done for pennies on the dollar of what a 
slide/film scanner is worth.

IL Bill
On Sunday, March 21, 2004, at 06:33 AM, Hal & Sandra Davis wrote:
Film/slide scanner. Many out there. Minolta and Nikon have been 
pointed out
on this list.
- Original Message -
From: "Bill Kane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 2:08 PM
Subject: Re: Slide Dup for *ist D


Possibly,

My own interest in this project is that I have literally hundreds 
if
not thousands of slides my dad took (Kodachromes).  They are a 
treasure
for the family, and I want to find a way to turn them digital to put
them on DVD's along with home movies which I am transfering to digital
also . . .

IL Bill
On Friday, March 19, 2004, at 11:05 AM, Nick Clark wrote:
I've yet to fathom the need for a slide duplicator for a digital
camera. Isn't a film scanner better?
Nick

-Original Message-
From: "William Robb"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 19/03/04 03:03:00
To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Slide Dup for *ist D
- Original Message -
From: "J. C. O'Connell"
Subject: RE: Slide Dup for *ist D

get a bellows then you have adjustable magnification.
Isn't that easy John.
Trust me on this.
Though I don't hold out much hope for the  slide holder 1X K.

William Robb

Re: Long exposure on *istD

[Herb Chong]

summing exposures with NR enabled is the best thing to do with ordinary
digital cameras.

Herb
- Original Message - 
From: "Keith Whaley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: Long exposure on *istD


> No, except that what he WANTED to do was to use his new digital camera,
> and he was exploring as to whether he could practically DO that!
> He hadn't got around to asking for alternatives yet...

Re: Long exposure on *istD

[Keith Whaley]

No, except that what he WANTED to do was to use his new digital camera, 
and he was exploring as to whether he could practically DO that!
He hadn't got around to asking for alternatives yet...

keith

Jens Bladt wrote:

Would it be a problem to use film? Any old camera could do this. I'd use my
K1000, which is totally mecanical, no electric shutter - the batteries are
only for the light meter. The main things are: A good lens and a sturdy
tripod and a lockable cable release!
All the best
Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: mapson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 21. marts 2004 10:32
Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Emne: Re: Long exposure on *istD



Reason? Ignoring the effect on battery life and over-heating, and such,
over time the active CCD will incorrectly light up random pixels, more and
more as the exposure lengthens, and eventually all this 'noise' will
compete with and image you're trying to record.


that is what I am afraid of.
Plus, as you mentioned, I think the camera can overheat and do other
unexpected tricks. ;-(


    (*)o(*) 
Robert
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Double Exposure:paw

[brooksdj]

Thanks Joe.
It was kodak gold 200.
I took a number of shots throught out the eclipse and the ones that were in the f
11,seemed more 
natural, f 8 seemed a bit goldy in colour.
When it was almost total i did some 3-4 second shots but they were all to long as i 
got a
lot of motion 
blur.I think if i had of stayed with f5.6 or 4 would have been fine.

Dave   

> Stunning, Dave. So the moon wsas 125 @ f11. What 
film 
ISO?
> 
> Joe
> 

Re: Slide Dup for *ist D

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "John Forbes"
Subject: Re: Slide Dup for *ist D


> Ordinary slide copiers are designed for a camera/sensor with
dimensions of
> 24x36mm.  Anything smaller crops the slide, which is not what you
want.
>
> So far there are no APS slide copiers on the market, and people are
having
> to use ingenuity.  Unfortunately, ingenious inventions of the Heath
> Robinson variety may work, but are seldom quick.
> I know, I am still trying.

I am pretty sure that the best method is going to turn out to be
extending the slide farther from the lens, but this will require a
custom made rod to mount the slide duplcator to the front of the
bellow, and a longer bellows from the slide holder to the lens.
Right now, the best method I have found (note this is not the best
method) is to mount a close-up filter onto the front of the 77mm.
This gives about 50% more crop than the 50mm lens that the system is
designed to work with, and the close-up filter allows the thing to
focus on the slide within the confines of the equipment dimensions.
It's not really great, as the close-up filter adds it's own special
quality to the dupe (stopping down helps), but it does allow for
rapid slide duping.

William Robb

Re: "digital" infared?

[Thomas Stach]

Hi,

I am using a Heliopan RG780 Filter on my *ist-D, it cuts visible light
off at 780 nm.
The effect is undenialble. Results look even better than the cover of
the U2 album
"the unforgettable fire", if you should know that.

One day i will have a website to show you my pics... ;-}


Thomas



William Robb schrieb:
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Tanya Mayer Photography"
> Subject: "digital" infared?
> 
> >
> > Ok, Photshoppers, I am looking to recreate the effect of infared
> photography
> > on my digital images...  Anyone got an action or a workflow that
> they use?
> 
> I use my Canon G1 and a #87 filter.
> Don't know if the istD has an IR filter in the way or not.
> 
> William Robb

Re: PAW week 12 ERN

[Boris Liberman]

Hi!

Well, baby Galia just saw the feet and pronounced out loud
"Gaaliaa"... You know - like "me it is!"...

That would be Liberman's family comment here ...

Boris
([EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED])

Re: PAW: winter storm

[Boris Liberman]

Hi!

The fourth and the fifth one are my favorites. They remind me of New
Year festivities and of those good snowy winters I had back in Moscow.

It is amazing how different can be a climate on the same ball of rock
at the same time.

This weekend I took some pictures of poppies under bright spring
sun...

Boris
([EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED])

PAW - Tres Amigos Redux

[Shel Belinkoff]

I changed the crop a bit, burnt down some bright areas, and
adjusted the toning.  Comments welcome, of course.

Adjusted version: 
http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/images/tres-2.html

Original version:
http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/images/tres-s.html

Re: PAW: New Brighton Beach

[Boris Liberman]

Hi!

Dave, I wonder where were you positioned when taking that shot. It
looks like you were high above the sea level  and probably quite
far from the person who's running on the beach.

Apparently New Zealand is way roomier than, say, Israel. I couldn't
think of any place where I could take such an image with 200 mm
lens...

Still, this is wonderful. Very sunny... Very shiny...

Boris
([EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED])

Re: Slide Dup for *ist D

[John Forbes]

Ordinary slide copiers are designed for a camera/sensor with dimensions of 
24x36mm.  Anything smaller crops the slide, which is not what you want.

So far there are no APS slide copiers on the market, and people are having 
to use ingenuity.  Unfortunately, ingenious inventions of the Heath 
Robinson variety may work, but are seldom quick.
I know, I am still trying.

John

Incidentally, a laptop screen, turned horizontal and with a white 
background, makes a passable light box.  I haven't tried copying slides 
from it though, as I doubt if the illumination is even enough.

On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 13:53:01 +0100, Jens Bladt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

Would it be a problem to use an ordenary one? Or would they crop any 
slide?
I have a Kaiser/Soligor f8 with T2 adapter (want to buy it?). It can make
crops as well as dubs. I hardly ever use it, since I've got the Pentax
Bellows A with the A Slide Copier - and of cource a scanner with film
capability (EPSON Perfection 3200 PHOTO).
All the best
Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Hal & Sandra Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 21. marts 2004 13:33
Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Emne: Re: Slide Dup for *ist D
Film/slide scanner. Many out there. Minolta and Nikon have been pointed 
out
on this list.
- Original Message -
From: "Bill Kane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 2:08 PM
Subject: Re: Slide Dup for *ist D


Possibly,

My own interest in this project is that I have literally hundreds if
not thousands of slides my dad took (Kodachromes).  They are a treasure
for the family, and I want to find a way to turn them digital to put
them on DVD's along with home movies which I am transfering to digital
also . . .
IL Bill
On Friday, March 19, 2004, at 11:05 AM, Nick Clark wrote:
> I've yet to fathom the need for a slide duplicator for a digital
> camera. Isn't a film scanner better?
>
> Nick
>
> -Original Message-
> From: "William Robb"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: 19/03/04 03:03:00
> To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Slide Dup for *ist D
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "J. C. O'Connell"
> Subject: RE: Slide Dup for *ist D
>
>
>> get a bellows then you have adjustable magnification.
>
> Isn't that easy John.
> Trust me on this.
>
> Though I don't hold out much hope for the  slide holder 1X K.
>
> William Robb
>
>
>






--
Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/

Re: PAW; The First Day of Spring

[Shel Belinkoff]

Hi Paul ...

You didn't come off as argumentative, just firm.  Anyway,
WTF do I know about snowdrops ;-))  The web is a poor place
to show photos that have any kind of subtle detail, iac.

shel (struggling to get one of my photos to look right on
the screen)

Paul Stenquist wrote:
> 
> I appreciate the comments by the way, and I don't mean to be
> argumentative.

hot highlights and the *ist D

[Paul Stenquist]

Shel pointed out that a couple photos I've taken with the *ist D had 
burned out highlights. (I would call them hot, not burned out.) But in 
any case, I wanted to point out that the highlight level is a function 
of how I convert the frames, rather than how the camera exposes them. 
With PhotoShop CS you can adjust exposure -- and therefore your 
histogram -- before you convert the RAW image. Even on a near perfect 
exposure, the photographer can choose to move it a bit this way or 
that. In the case of the snowdrop I added a bit of exposure before 
converting it. That exposure is here:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2220242&size=lg

If I had wished, I could have converted it without adding any exposure 
(or I could, in fact, have reduced the exposure). Here is the shot the 
way it came out of the camera, save for a tiny bit of sharpening and a 
slight increase in green saturation:

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2221503&size=lg

I still prefer the first image by a small margin, but the taste of 
others may differ. But don't blame the *ist D for the hot highlights. 
Blame the photographer .

Re: usd money....

[Stan Halpin]

Here and in other countries I usually travel with $40-50 USD 
or local equivalence. Virtually everything is with credit 
card, the cash is for backup. If I need more cash, it is 
readily available as a withdrawal from an ATM.

As several have noted, ATM's in foreign countries have 
usually been the best cheapest way to 'exchange' one 
currency for another. I think that is true even with a 1-2% 
surcharge.

And any small town will have 3-5 ATM's (Automatic Teller 
Machines); one at each of the 2 banks, one at the gas 
(petrol) station, one at the largest food store, maybe 
another in the motel/hotel lobby.

Stan

Tanya Mayer Photography wrote:

Just wondering - with regards to my USA trip - I was thinking of not
bringing any cash at all, and just paying my spending money off my visa. It
will be a great help for tax purposes etc, and I rarely carry cash here any
more, I usually use EFTPOS for everything. How widely accepted is VISA in
the States?  Are you able to pay taxi's etc with VISA?  Or should I carry
some cash with me?  What about on GFM?  Are there any teller machines that
will allow me to withdraw cash from my VISA?  I have a pretty large purchase
that I will be making whilst I am over there and will need to get my hands
on at least USD$650 whilst I am  on the mountain (or beforehand to bring
with me)
tan.

RE: PAW; The First Day of Spring

[Bill Sawyer]

Didn't last long, though

-Original Message-
From:   Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:   March 20, 2004 8:34 PM

Spring officially arrived today, 

Re: PAW; The First Day of Spring

[Paul Stenquist]

I appreciate the comments by the way, and I don't mean to be 
argumentative. But I should add that what you're seeing as a blown out 
highlight has a lot to do with the direction of the light. The light is 
coming in at about a 30 degree angle from the left of camera. I did 
that intentionally, so the light wouldn't be flat. The one petal that 
is turned more to the light is, of course, more brightly lit than the 
others. To me, that makes it look natural. I could have burned it in so 
it matched the other petals, but that would disrupt the natural 
layering of the light. If you look at the shadow inside the bloom on 
the left, you'll see that it's position supports the highlight. In 
other words, the lighting appears natural because it has direction.
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> The front petals on both
flowers are blown out on my monitor, and they don't seem to have 
much more detail on the calibrated monitor either.
You're right - it's obvious if you look at the histogram; there's a 
biiig spike at the white end (and a bit of room at the dark end).

S

Re: Long exposure on *istD

[mapson]

Reason? Ignoring the effect on battery life and over-heating, and such, 
over time the active CCD will incorrectly light up random pixels, more and 
more as the exposure lengthens, and eventually all this 'noise' will 
compete with and image you're trying to record.
that is what I am afraid of.
Plus, as you mentioned, I think the camera can overheat and do other 
unexpected tricks. ;-(



   (*)o(*) 
Robert
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

RE: winter storm

[Jens Bladt]

You live in a very nice neighbourghood, Herb!
As for the pics, I think they are just a little too dark - snow is supposed
to be white, right? Otherwise they are very nice shots.
All the best

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Herb Chong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 21. marts 2004 01:28
Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Emne: PAW: winter storm


this Friday morning, i took an extra 15 minutes to walk to my bus stop on
the way to work and took 45 snapshots with my *istD. size of them are here.
4 are converted to grayscale and 2 are color. all are taken with the DA
16-45. my conclusion so far is that it is a nice sharp lens with some
noticeable light falloff wide open. it appears to be a bit sharper than the
FA 24-90 f3.5-4.5. now Pentax has to announce a DA 50-125 f4.0 or faster of
the same quality.

http://users.bestweb.net/~hchong/temp/

Herb...

Re: JPEG Question

[Lon Williamson]

The way I used to demonstrate the difference between 8 and 16 bit
color depth to students was to display a photo on a monitor, and
switch between 16K colors (8 bit) and millions of colors (16 bit).
I'd ask them to guess which was which.  No one could tell the
higher vs. lower color depth.
I would then create a white-to-black gradient in a drawing program,
and display that in both modes.  Everyone could see the banding in
the 8-bit color depth.
Jostein wrote:
- Original Message - 
From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

My question however is, since it is still 8 bit per colour, is the
Jpeg file still really limited in fine colour delineation because it
is limited to 256 discreet shades per primary colour?


In one word; yes.

Jostein

Re: PAW related request

[Lon Williamson]

We need a legal ruling on this, of course.
Frank needs to advise.  Grin.
Boris Liberman wrote:
Hi!

I think I am going to compile my PAW submissions into nice little web
pages - one for each photograph.
I am thereby (or is hereby , where's Knarf's lawyer?) asking
permission of those who commented on my stuff to allow me to put their
words on my pages.
What do you say?

Thanks.

Boris

RE: ZX-L (MZ-6) - Cancelling long exposure

[Jens Bladt]

No, not at all. I do it all the time with my cameras (MS-S, PZ-1, Super A
and others).
All the best
Jens

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Greg Lovern [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 21. marts 2004 08:36
Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Emne: ZX-L (MZ-6) - Cancelling long exposure


I have a ZX-L (MZ-6). When shooting flash (AF-280T) snapshots of my infant
son, especially with relatives, sometimes I pay so much attention to
capturing his fleeting smiles and other cute expressions that I forget to
wait long enough for the flash to recycle. Then, if the light is dim
enough it goes into a very long exposure and I miss other opportunities
waiting for the exposure to end. Tonight, some of them were 20 seconds
long and I missed a few really adorable moments.

Of course, the frame it's exposing is ruined anyway. Would it hurt to turn
the camera off and back on to cancel the long exposure? If not, is there a
good way to cancel it?

Thanks,

Greg

Long exposure on *istD

[mapson]

Is long exposure allowed on digital cameras?

If you set it to 30-60 minutes, will you cook the camera?

I am thinking of doing some astrophotography in a month or so, however I 
wouldn't like to kill my camera in the process.

   (*)o(*) 
Robert
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Re: usd money....

[Cotty]

On 20/3/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] discumbobulated:

>Just wondering - with regards to my USA trip - I was thinking of not
>bringing any cash at all, and just paying my spending money off my visa. It
>will be a great help for tax purposes etc, and I rarely carry cash here any
>more, I usually use EFTPOS for everything. How widely accepted is VISA in
>the States?  Are you able to pay taxi's etc with VISA?  Or should I carry
>some cash with me?  What about on GFM?  Are there any teller machines that
>will allow me to withdraw cash from my VISA?  I have a pretty large purchase
>that I will be making whilst I am over there and will need to get my hands
>on at least USD$650 whilst I am  on the mountain (or beforehand to bring
>with me)

I will be bringing a couple a hundred in cash for pizza, er
contingencies. I plan on buying some bits while over and for that I will
use plastic. Visa is fine.


Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: Pentaxian arrested in Kosovo

[Cotty]

On 20/3/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] discumbobulated:

>> on left corner two policemen approachig arrested me.
>> After two days, 1000 EUR and Pentax Z-1 given to
>> "authorities" I was able to go to Macedonia and then
>> to home. 

What was the arrest for?


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Re: usd money....

[Keith Whaley]

While there are a lot of ATM machines almost everywhere you go, not 
everybody takes a VISA (or any other bank card.)
Very small business persons probably do NOT take a card, because of the 
costs involved with low volume businesses.
Which means cabbies may not want to see a VISA card.
I don't ride cabs in this country, so I cannot say, but I would 
certainly make inquiry of someone who does.
Better to NOT be out of 'emergency' cash if you need it!

A cabbie WILL take you to an ATM machine, however, so most of that 
problem goes away. 

Also, even tho' most ATM machines are well lit, do NOT go to one at 
night, or in isolated areas without someone around.

Good luck,

keith whaley

Peter J. Alling wrote:

We invented it.  It used to be called BankAmeracard, I remember when the 
name was changed.  You shouldn't have any
trouble using it but I'd look into  the conversion rate your bank may 
charge, it's usually quite competitive but I've only been
changing from US dollars.

Tanya Mayer Photography wrote:

Just wondering - with regards to my USA trip - I was thinking of not
bringing any cash at all, and just paying my spending money off my 
visa. It
will be a great help for tax purposes etc, and I rarely carry cash 
here any
more, I usually use EFTPOS for everything. How widely accepted is VISA in
the States?  Are you able to pay taxi's etc with VISA?  Or should I carry
some cash with me?  What about on GFM?  Are there any teller machines 
that
will allow me to withdraw cash from my VISA?  I have a pretty large 
purchase
that I will be making whilst I am over there and will need to get my 
hands
on at least USD$650 whilst I am  on the mountain (or beforehand to bring
with me)

tan.