Selling pentax 35mm Trooper-subaru fan
William: Get a Subaru it will put all the others to shame and run problem free for years and years... Vic Sooby fan Pentax Fan Don't confuse lower specs in some areas with mediocre. My freind's Mercedes Benz will only go 120 MPH, but another friend's Porsche will go 140. I guess the Benz is mediocre. When I was test driving cars, I used a farmers field as a test bed. We winched the failures out of the middle, and the ones that got through were considered as potential vehicles. The Honda I tested was absolute shit. It got stuck first. I tested a Toyota, it did a little better, but was still mediocre. I ended up with an Isuzu Trooper. I guess the Honda and Toyota were junk. Funny thing, the Isuzu had so many mechanical problems that I sold it as unreliable with only 115,000km on the clock. William Robb
Re: some shots from the new Air and space Museum
On Jul 2, 2004, at 10:36 AM, Cotty wrote: The SR-71 makes appearances at the RIAT, Oh man... you shouldn't have said that. I'd just about have to come over just to see that plane. I am truly fascinated by the SR71 and I'd love to actually see one. Getting to see one flying would be even better. Cheers, - Dave http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
FW: Re:Selling Pentax 35mm gear (WAS RE: Beautiful SF1n kit, Voigtlander
Did you try a Land Rover :-) Antti-Pekka --- Antti-Pekka Virjonen Computec Oy, Turku Finland Gsm: +358-500-789 753 www.computec.fi * www.estera.fi -Original Message- From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 5:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re:Selling Pentax 35mm gear (WAS RE: Beautiful SF1n kit, Voigtlander Don't confuse lower specs in some areas with mediocre. My freind's Mercedes Benz will only go 120 MPH, but another friend's Porsche will go 140. I guess the Benz is mediocre. When I was test driving cars, I used a farmers field as a test bed. We winched the failures out of the middle, and the ones that got through were considered as potential vehicles. The Honda I tested was absolute shit. It got stuck first. I tested a Toyota, it did a little better, but was still mediocre. I ended up with an Isuzu Trooper. I guess the Honda and Toyota were junk. Funny thing, the Isuzu had so many mechanical problems that I sold it as unreliable with only 115,000km on the clock. William Robb
Re: PAW - Homage to WES
Hi Boris ... WES = W.Eugene Smith. Perhaps you'll find some time to look at some of his work. Shel [Original Message] From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Who (or what) is WES? Folks, have mercy, not everyone knows all the tastes of letter soup. http://home.earthlink.net/~sbelinkoff/paw/homage.html Work in Progress This is really marvelous. Among your serious pieces, I think this one is the very best this far. At least to me. What is specially good here (to my eyes) is that with few simple elements you allow the viewer to wonder in fields of their imagination... Do show us the final work if you ever come to having one here. Boris
Re: off-brand lenses they didn't make
Zeiss even list the true focal length in their data sheets - the Planar 1.4/50 is 51.8 mm focal length! When I received my 24-90 I noticed that the long end was actually shorter than my M 2/85. In the 'communication' I then had with Pentax Europe about this, they admitted (regretted) that the lens designation could be way off (with the exception of the Limited lenses where they said it would be correct). Sven Zitat von Raimo K [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 85 mm lenses are not really 85 mm - there´s 5 % tolerance. Pentax could have named it 85 but they decided to use the true focal length instead. The 31 mm could be the same. Some Leica M lenses have small numbers engraved on the lens barrel and they tell what the actual focal length is - e.g. my 50 mm Summicron is really a 52 mm. All the best! Raimo K Personal photography homepage at: http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho - Original Message - Boy, that 85 sticks out like a sore thumb, doesn't it! I wonder if the 77ltd was aiming at 80mm but ended up 77. I'll bet the 31 was essentially aiming at 30 or 28. Leica made an 80 IIRC, so it's not unheard of. snip DJE
Re: Custom grips for LX
Proud to be the owner of one of the six grips beautiful work! So am I, perhaps we should start a Custom LX Grip Owners' Club, I could be the UK representative. Where in the world are the other five located I wonder. AB -- Whatever you Wanadoo: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/time/ This email has been checked for most known viruses - find out more at: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/help/id/7098.htm
Re: off-brand lenses they didn't make
ks When I received my 24-90 I noticed that the long end was actually shorter than ks my M 2/85. In the 'communication' I then had with Pentax Europe about this, I think it was discussed a lot on B.Dimitrov's site that lenses with some form of internal focusing (not moving the whole lens in/out, but just part of the lens), often shorten the actual focal length when focused nearer than infinity. Not to mention some other issues IF might bring. So perhaps that's exagerrating the situation even more, the 90mm end is 5% off and when focused closer it's even more off... Best regards, Frantisek Vlcek
Re: some M lens ruminations
On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: unbalanced on my dead MX, whereas the M150/3.5 isn't (not a problem for me since I'm a KX/LX user). It's not really M small. You must see the M80-200/4.5. I (inexperienced and weakling, mind) found it hard to hand-hold with the -5n and grip. I shoot the 75-150 handheld at 150 regularly. The pull-out lens shade is more useless than any other Pentax pull-out lens shade I've met--way too short, shorter than I'd think 75mm FOV could Can I recommend the Hoya round collapsible? Can be had used for postage money; here's your chance to dive into ebay :-) handle. 2x zoom range isn't real impressive, and the single-ring zoom has strong creep. Know what? I don't really mind the 2x zoom, if the lens characteristics are good. With the bright viewfinder of the SFXn (or even with the -5n though trusting the confirmation a bit more), if you can stand the DOF of f4 at the zoom range, this is a very good portrait lens. Can I also recommend a reversing ring? The lens works well like that. portrait lens. I'll have to shoot some film with it to see if I agree with Shel about the distortion. Do you care on portraits? Plus, I dropped if from 1.5 meters (open bag, why lift it you fool?), it landed on the rear cap on concrete and just lost some paint (to my knowledge at least :-))) Kostas
Re: Another novelty
On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 20:33:06 -0400, Collin R Brendemuehl wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=37905item=3733428172rd=1ssPageName=WDVW For the true Pentax collector. :) At that price I'd consider buying it as a sort of fusion of my childhood and my present. My parents were optical instrument makers and were the agents for Nikon survey equipment - though they did get a few Pentaxes and other brands in for repairs. But the seller only ships to the US and I don't really feel like double shipping it and the price is almost certain to increase. Leon http://www.bluering.org.au http://www.bluering.org.au/leon
Re: some M lens ruminations
On Fri, 2 Jul 2004, graywolf wrote: One of the strange things I have noticed is that some how the idea that the K lenses were a bit better than the M lenses, has somehow become they are a lot better. Exaggeration by people who go by what they read somewhere rather than their own experience I figure. In my case, it's just fetish. If I can get a K lens, I 'll get it. They are the worse to own, as their FL is behind the cap, unlike all others K-mount lenses, but still, there is something about them. I could trade in my K135/3.5 at a small profit (though still peanuts) when I bought the 2.5. It is the worse of the options, slower than the 2.5 and heavier than the M. Did I sell it? Did I f. Kostas
Re: Another film vs digital comparison
on 02.07.04 3:29, Arturo Medina-Chavez at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, FWIW http://www.oprit.rug.nl/otten/Comparison.html Found on the Canon FD mount forum Not sure how rigorous the test was conducted, but I found interesting that for 35mm film, two scan res were used, 3200 and 5400dpi. Very interesting comparison, thanks Arturo! I must admit that various soursec make various tests - sometimes film wins sometimes it seems that 6MPix DSLR has similar quality to good slide film like here: http://www.sphoto.com/techinfo/dslrvsfilm.htm My experience is that film really has somewhat more resolution, but it looses because of film grain and overall sharpness. And slide film has distinctive advantage when viewed directly from dia-projector - there is still no match for that, LCD multimedia projectors are far behind and still very expensive -- Best Regards Sylwek
Re: OT: Off list for some days
Jens Bladt wrote: Hi all I'm going off list for some days. A friend from London is coming over for the Copenhagen Jazz Festival. I have booked tickets for 74 years old Ahmad Jamal (pianist with Miles Davis quailities) Saturday. I'll have to haul out my old Ahmad Jamal vinyl record and play it! It's been years and years. How lucky to be going to his concert showing! keith whaley One of my favorites, Kieth Jarrett will be attending the festival next Friday! Guess this one is sold out already. Cheers Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
Re: Selling pentax 35mm Trooper-subaru fan
Subaru? That Japanese Beetle? My 91 Camry has 267,5xx miles on it, and still gets 32mpg. (Though I'm still working @ Honda RD!) Collin Sent via the WebMail system at mail.safe-t.net
Re: What's the best zoom(s) for M42?
Sid, The first generation of Vivitar Series1 lenses came in M42, and IIRC they were ES-II compatible. I have no idea if later generations of Series 1 had screwmount versions, though. Be aware that the original Series 1 35~85/2.8 is a varifocal zoom which needs refocusing whenever the focal length is altered. Manual focus zooms are usually parfocals which don't (or at least shouldn't) require refocusing after zooming. Aso IIRC, Angineaux (sp?) had screwmount models of its very sexy and very expensive zooms, at least they did when M42 was a mainstream lens-mount. I think you'd be very pleased with either of those labels, if you can find an example. They are both very hoardable so may be rare commodities. regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: Sid Barras [EMAIL PROTECTED] HI All, Well, I'm getting less and less inclined to lug around the entire SMC tak prime lens collection these days... So, I'm wondering, to all the screwmount afficanados, I ask the question: The best (available, anyway-- I intend to seek and buy the lens) zoom lenses for M42. My requirements would be two or three good quality zoom lenses in screw mount to cover the 28 (or 24 if I'm really fortunate) to 300 or so zoom lenses. It wouldn't have to be one of those 28-300 mega zooms like the tamron K mount I've got. It could be two three or four even lenses that together would cover that range. Infrared markings would be nice too. Greetings from CajunLand USA South Louisiana Sid Barras
Re: Selling pentax 35mm Trooper-subaru fan
--- Collin Brendemuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subaru? That Japanese Beetle? My 91 Camry has 267,5xx miles on it, and still gets 32mpg. (Though I'm still working @ Honda RD!) Well since we're getting well off topic My Honda does 140mph and 38mpg BUT, not at the same time!! I love it almost as much as my cameras... Peace and love, Tom ___ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - so many all-new ways to express yourself http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
RE: Af speed of the *ist D
Sorry - wrong link! It's www.dpreview.com Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 2. juli 2004 10:30 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: RE: Af speed of the *ist D I have filed a complaint about the Pentax *ist D test with www.dpreviw.com, hope you don't mind: Dear dpreview When testing Pentax *ist D you have prolonged AF-speeds, aledgedly because of two focussing attempts in a low light situation. I think ist's OK to descibe this problem, but it's not OK to generally dertermine AF speed (double values?) because of this. Any serious tester would redo this part of the test, and then add a comment as to the low light focusing problem. Your test doesn't actually tell people how fast this camera can focus, which is what the consumers will be looking for. Regards Jens Bladt Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: graywolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 1. juli 2004 16:34 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: Af speed of the *ist D That is not a decision, that is a whim. It is what some people consider a proof of their power, You will accede to my every (idiotic) whim! Strangely the less you are paid, the more likely you are to have to put up with that kind of BS. -- Bob W wrote: Hi, Before you can make your own decisions you have to know what you want. That is asking a lot from some people. oh, I don't know. My boss makes an awful lot of decisions without having the faintest idea what he wants. -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html
RE: Af speed of the *ist D
Sorry - wrong link! It's www.dpreview.com Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 1. juli 2004 09:45 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: RE: Af speed of the *ist D LOL: I know bosses like that too! Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Bob W [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 1. juli 2004 08:53 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: Af speed of the *ist D Hi, Before you can make your own decisions you have to know what you want. That is asking a lot from some people. oh, I don't know. My boss makes an awful lot of decisions without having the faintest idea what he wants. -- Cheers, Bob
OT: A trivial copyright matter.
Here's the background to this minor matter; from time to time I visit local car boot sales and on rare occasions I've seen boxes of 35mm colour slides for sale. Nearly all of these I have looked at, put down and walked on, but I suppose twice in 5 years I have made an offer on them (silly money, pennies) for those which depict local scenes I can no longer go and take myself, as they no longer exist. One of my friends has suggested that a couple of them could be included in a historical society publication. I have declined any suggestion of publication but am quite happy for them to be shown as one or two of the images during a slide evening. I really only bought them for my own local historical interest. I would certainly be unhappy with any credit or attribution, as my only connection was paying a small sum for a box of them, I have no idea what camera was used and when it was taken and can only guess to within a couple of years the dates of the pictures. I have been told as I bought them, what I do with them is my concern. Regardless of whether this is entirely true or not, I don't feel happy with this at all. I would really like to know who took them and why and how they ended up in a car boot sale, but I never will. As for the future of these and my own record of local pictures, I will one day leave them to a local museum or society. It might be a curiosity to another generation. Has anyone else had any thoughts for the long term use/destination of their photographs? Malcolm
Re: Z1-P repair looking for parts or part camera
- Original Message - From: Dr. Shaun Canning Subject: Re: Z1-P repair looking for parts or part camera Pentax have only recently ceased to support older bodies such as the KX and K2, and some parts are still around for them if you know where to look. Depends on where you live. In Canada, they have pretty much stopped supporting anything earlier than the MZ series. William Robb
Re: Selling pentax 35mm Trooper-subaru fan
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Selling pentax 35mm Trooper-subaru fan William: Get a Subaru it will put all the others to shame and run problem free for years and years... I went with a Nissan truck. I need the larger size vehicle. Subarus are nice though. If the 4WDTercel ever breaks down permanently, I'll be looking at them as a small second car for sure. William Robb
Re: Re:Selling Pentax 35mm gear (WAS RE: Beautiful SF1n kit, Voigtlander
- Original Message - From: Antti-Pekka Virjonen Subject: FW: Re:Selling Pentax 35mm gear (WAS RE: Beautiful SF1n kit, Voigtlander Did you try a Land Rover :-) No dealership here. William Robb
Re: PAW: The River
I agree, for what it's worth. Brian Walters wrote: snip.. Cotty mentioned cropping out the bush on the right. I see the point but I think the reflections at lower right are important. To me the impact is much reduced if they are missing.
Re: Another novelty
Hey! It's GREEN! ;-) Stephen gdr ___ Collin R Brendemuehl wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=37905item=3733428172rd=1ssPageName=WDVW For the true Pentax collector. :)
Re: Custom grips for LX
Hmmm, we haven't heard from the Brotherhood lately... Stephen __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Proud to be the owner of one of the six grips beautiful work! So am I, perhaps we should start a Custom LX Grip Owners' Club, I could be the UK representative. Where in the world are the other five located I wonder. AB
Re: Selling Pentax 35mm gear (WAS RE: Beautiful SF1n kit, Voigtlander
Graywolf wrote: Rumor is that Nikon recruited the designer away from Pentax. I've even heard that from Pentax people, so I guess it may be true. REPLY: It is true. Pål
Re: some shots from the new Air and space Museum
I read abook along time ago called Thunderbolt by Bob Johnson. He had 28 kills during the war, all flying P-47s. At one point he was getting shot up by an FW190 but his plane kept flying. The German pilot hammered him with cannon fire, and confused that the plane didn't go down, came up along side him. lokked him over, went behind again and pounded him some more. again, the P47 wouldn't go down, so he came up again, shook his head and peeled off back to base. Bob made it back to England and landed safely. Years ago, I met a guy who's license plate was P47 JUG who flew with Bob Johnson's squadron. Christian -Original Message- From: Norm Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jul 1, 2004 8:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: some shots from the new Air and space Museum Oh, and I just noticed, behind the Jug is a FW190...two of my favorite planes together, gotta go there. Thanks for sharing your great pics Christian. Norm Christian wrote: The Smithsonian institution opened a new museum near Dulles Airport in Virginia in December last year.
Opinions wanted: 16-45 vs. 20-35 vs. 24-90
Hi guys and gals, I'm in the mood to purchase a 16-45, but I'd like to hear some first hand experiences from those who own it and made a side by side comparison with at least one of the lenses above. I recall somebody said that the 16-45 is definitely sharper than the 24-90 at similar FL, is it true? I'm mainly interested in the performance wide open. Another thing: the Italian importer has no 16-45 readily available, but I've found a shop in Naples that has a couple of *ist D and, among several lenses, at least a 16-45. They ask 469 Euro for the lens alone. Is it good? As usual, many thanks in advance. Ciao, Gianfranco = _ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
Re: Opinions wanted: 16-45 vs. 20-35 vs. 24-90
on 02.07.04 16:54, Gianfranco Irlanda at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys and gals, I'm in the mood to purchase a 16-45, but I'd like to hear some first hand experiences from those who own it and made a side by side comparison with at least one of the lenses above. I recall somebody said that the 16-45 is definitely sharper than the 24-90 at similar FL, is it true? I'm mainly interested in the performance wide open. Another thing: the Italian importer has no 16-45 readily available, but I've found a shop in Naples that has a couple of *ist D and, among several lenses, at least a 16-45. They ask 469 Euro for the lens alone. Is it good? As usual, many thanks in advance. Hi Giafranco, I don't have DA 16-45/4 yet, but you could be interested in this link (just use translator like babelfish): http://www.pictchallenge.com/BxuREV7.html Tests are fully independent and objective as they are made by... computer program - DXO Analyzer :-) In short 24-90 is quite sharp, but noticably worse at open apertures than DA 16-45 and FA has quite a big loss of sharpness in corners as compared to homogenous results from DA. DA suffers only from its chromatic aberrations in corners - they are quite noticable between 16-45mm. Otherwise they claim DA performance is similar to Nikkor DX 17-55/2.8 (~1400USD lens...). It is also worth looking at the tests of FA 43/1.9 limited, FA 35/2 and FA* 85/1.4 (on following page) and compare results. Interestingly - according to these tests FA* 85/1.4 is sharper at f1.4 than 43 Ltd. at f1.9... -- Best Regards Sylwek
Re: FA 135 f2.8
I'll do it tonight or tomorrow morning. What storage mode, ie., RAW, TIFF, ***L, etc? Well, I have a dial-up connection. I think unsharpened jpegs (***L) of around 100k will tell me what I need to know. Make that 100k jpegs of a small area of brick wall with lots of texture.. Appreciate it, Steve. Joe
Re: FA 135 f2.8
OK. I just crop it down to 100k or so. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/02/04 11:21AM I'll do it tonight or tomorrow morning. What storage mode, ie., RAW, TIFF, ***L, etc? Well, I have a dial-up connection. I think unsharpened jpegs (***L) of around 100k will tell me what I need to know. Make that 100k jpegs of a small area of brick wall with lots of texture.. Appreciate it, Steve. Joe
Re: PAW - Bridge
Looks like a first frame (probably #00) when I load a fresh film. You know, the one the printer carefully prints a 5x7 of, and dutifully sends it along with the rest! g keith whaley DagT wrote: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2491774size=lg Comments are welcome :-) DagT
Re: Opinions wanted: 16-45 vs. 20-35 vs. 24-90
Gianfranco, the DA 16-45 is a fine lens. I have tested it formally against the excellent FA 20-35. It is definitely in that class, and perhaps just a bit sharper than the 20-35. I have used the FA 24-90 but have not formally tested it. My impression is that the DA 16-45 is in the same class as the sharpest zooms I own -- the FA 20-35, the Tokina AT-X Pro 28-80 f2.8, and the Sigma EX 70-200 f2.8. One amazing thing about the lens is that it is quite good wide open. Pentax's own MTF evaluation is that the lens is actually best at f4.0 from 16 to 28 mm., and at f4.5 from 28 to 45 mm. That's extraordinary performance. It's also, of course, quite fine stopped down. I have shot it at f16 with very nice results. It goes well on the *ist D. There are occastional CA problems, but you will probably see these on many lenses. I have noticed it on only two shots out of several hundred. There is software to correct CA problems, and I would guess that more software (perhaps PS plug-ins) to correct this problem will be forthcoming. For *ist D zoom users, I cannot recommend this lens highly enough. It is one of the best zooms Pentax has made. The images it gives me are stunning. One is in this month's PUG (keep in mind that it is a reduced jpeg). For some reason Pentax is producing few of them, so if you want one grab the one you saw. They are hard to find. The price looked good, comparable to discount price here. Joe
Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V04 #713
Leaf, PhaseOne and Megavision all make 35 mm sized sensor backs at 6 and 11 MP. It may not make sense but its obviously marketable to pros for a considerable price. Of course these also make bigger sensors, but the biggest I found was about 45 x 45 mm, giving about 16 MP. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/01/04 06:33PM On 1 Jul 2004 at 12:20, Peter J. Alling wrote: If they did then they should just buy a full frame 35mm digital system. (Or am I the only one who sees the advantages in this). It would be absolutely pointless to put less thatn a full frame sensor in a medium format back and on top of that if the sensor were of 35mm format dimensions it would be rubbing salt into wounds. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: FA 135 f2.8
What is the ***L supposed to stand for? keith whaley Steve Desjardins wrote: OK. I just crop it down to 100k or so. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/02/04 11:21AM I'll do it tonight or tomorrow morning. What storage mode, ie., RAW, TIFF, ***L, etc? Well, I have a dial-up connection. I think unsharpened jpegs (***L) of around 100k will tell me what I need to know. Make that 100k jpegs of a small area of brick wall with lots of texture.. Appreciate it, Steve. Joe
Re: What % AF? (was Af speed of the *ist D)
Fight automation every inch of the way, you mean? As for your eyes, I can see that AF is a great crutch. But crutches get in the way when you don't need them. All automation I have used was fine as long as you don't have to work around it. Once you do have to work around it, I feel it is more trouble than it is worth. Pentax's green button to put things back into normal mode has to be the best thing that has happened to camera automation. I never felt the need for a green button on my MXen. -- George Sinos wrote: When you need to depend on the automation, you quickly figure out how it works and make use of it in the best way you can. -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html
Re: FA 135 f2.8
What he said. ;-) I'm a lazy typist, and take any shortcut I can. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/02/04 12:03PM on 02.07.04 17:58, Keith Whaley at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the ***L supposed to stand for? *** means best quality (lowest compression) JPEG, L stands for Large - max pixel size - 3008x2008 (6 MPix). -- Best Regards Sylwek Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Just to be sure.. About DAs
These lens (DA ones) are really only usable on the IST-D right? Or are these like some Sigma/Tamron, optimized for digital but you can still use them for 24x36 ? I just hope Pentax will make Fas with the new focus mechanism of the DAs Thanks Thibouille
Re: What % AF? (was Af speed of the *ist D)
I think it is important to remember that, AF or MF, it's still an SLR. If you use AF and everything you want looks nice and sharp, then you won't do better with MF. I use MF for since I like to do macro, and like the MF feel of the A lenses. (I'm actually going to get the A50 2.8 macro as a walking around macro lens). I think the ideal system would AF and then you could tweak it without a clutch, i.e., just tunr the ring. I think some systesm works like this. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Just to be sure.. About DAs
On Fri, 2 Jul 2004, Thibs wrote: These lens (DA ones) are really only usable on the IST-D right? Or are these like some Sigma/Tamron, optimized for digital but you can still use them for 24x36 ? I just hope Pentax will make Fas with the new focus mechanism of the DAs DA lenses have a reduced image circle. The 16-45 appears to be usable from somewhere around 24 to 28mm on my ZX-5n. I haven't run film through it to see when the vingetting actually disappears. alex
Re: What % AF? (was Af speed of the *ist D)
On Fri, 2 Jul 2004, Steve Desjardins wrote: I think it is important to remember that, AF or MF, it's still an SLR. If you use AF and everything you want looks nice and sharp, then you won't do better with MF. I use MF for since I like to do macro, and like the MF feel of the A lenses. (I'm actually going to get the A50 2.8 macro as a walking around macro lens). I think the ideal system would AF and then you could tweak it without a clutch, i.e., just tunr the ring. I think some systesm works like this. That is how the clutch on the DA 16-45/4 works. You can leave the camera in auto focus and manual focus at any time. alex
Re: What's the best zoom(s) for M42?
Perhaps you would? All the best! Raimo K Personal photography homepage at: http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho - Original Message - From: Frantisek Vlcek [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: John C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 1:55 AM Subject: Re: What's the best zoom(s) for M42? snip Yes, but _nobody_ in their sane mind, unless looking for a very special effect (about 0.01%%) would ever carry all such similar focal lengths to be equivalent to a zoom. Or do you ;-) ? Best regards, Frantisek Vlcek
Re: What's the best zoom(s) for M42?
Usually, yes - but IMO my old 4.5/80-200 SMC Pentax-M was better than my 4.0/200 SMC Pentax-M. All the best! Raimo K Personal photography homepage at: http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho - Original Message - From: John C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 12:22 AM Subject: RE: What's the best zoom(s) for M42? Zooms are continuous, to carry equivalent primes you have to carry them all. the prime list below IS increments...No focal lengths are duplicated. Zoom can save a lot of weigh over carrying all the primes but they are slower in speed and lower in quality JCO -Original Message- From: alex wetmore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 5:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: What's the best zoom(s) for M42? On Thu, 1 Jul 2004, J. C. O'Connell wrote: no way, the primes? 24 28 35 40 50 55 85 105 135 200 300 I assumed that one was carrying a selection of the primes in a set of increments, not everything. I don't see any reason to carry 35, 40, 50, and 55. 35 and 55 maybe. Likewise for 24, 28. Or 105, 135. From that selection I would probably take: 24, 35, 50, 105, 200, 300 or maybe just: 28, 50, 85, 135, 200 I've done many trips just carrying a 24 and a 50 and that has worked well for me. alex
Re: M80-200 vs F70-210 ?
I would have thought - with the vast experience you have - that you would have noticed the characteristic peculiar to zoom lenses: when zooming the angle of view changes and with it the area measured by TTL exposure meter also changes and if the area measured is not uniformly lit or uniform in colour the exposure reading tends to change. Hope this helps. All the best! Raimo K Personal photography homepage at: http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho - Original Message - From: Frantisek Vlcek [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Raimo K [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 1:49 AM Subject: Re: M80-200 vs F70-210 ? RK zooming - with constant aperture zooms as well as variable aperture zooms. Hi Raimo, I am sorry for Andre that the thread has evolved into this, but could you please tell me how constant aperture zoom changes exposure during zooming? I would really like to know that. Best regards, Frantisek Vlcek
Re: What % AF? (was AF speed of the *ist D)
I didn't realize that. Great. I've resisted up until now . . . ;-) Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/02/04 12:48PM On Fri, 2 Jul 2004, Steve Desjardins wrote: I think it is important to remember that, AF or MF, it's still an SLR. If you use AF and everything you want looks nice and sharp, then you won't do better with MF. I use MF for since I like to do macro, and like the MF feel of the A lenses. (I'm actually going to get the A50 2.8 macro as a walking around macro lens). I think the ideal system would AF and then you could tweak it without a clutch, i.e., just tunr the ring. I think some systesm works like this. That is how the clutch on the DA 16-45/4 works. You can leave the camera in auto focus and manual focus at any time. alex
RE: Opinions wanted: 16-45 vs. 20-35 vs. 24-90
The 43 is widely known to be soft wide-open -That Guy -Original Message- From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 11:13 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Opinions wanted: 16-45 vs. 20-35 vs. 24-90 Interestingly - according to these tests FA* 85/1.4 is sharper at f1.4 than 43 Ltd. at f1.9... -- Best Regards Sylwek
Re: FA 135 f2.8
Of course! Isn't it always that way? Once you hear the answer, you feel stupid! I've been seeing that in the camera specs (my S4, for instance) for some time now, but when I saw it in conversation I didn't retrieve the memory. As tho' that's something new with me... hah. :-P Thanks, keith whaley Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: on 02.07.04 17:58, Keith Whaley at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the ***L supposed to stand for? *** means best quality (lowest compression) JPEG, L stands for Large - max pixel size - 3008x2008 (6 MPix).
Re: PAW - YASF (Yet another spring flower)
Hi! DZ The kinds of flowers in our yard have been pretty well covered with DZ excellent pictures posted to the list. I haven't seen a bleeding heart, DZ so I'll post this one DZ http://www.radix.net/~drzz/paw/bheart.html Sorry I am late. But I still want to take care of all of my PAW backlog. So, I should say this is very well composed. I mean, it is not just YASF shot like it says in the title. It is done with heart g... I really like the symmetry that I notice here. Thanks. Boris ([EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: PAW- Beach
Hi! FW Here is one I made at the Zandvoort beach in the Netherlands last Thursday, ascensionday. FW http://www.wuthrich.cc/albums/Zandvoort/imgp0677.jpg FW *ist D and the 24-90mm lens. My feet in the cold water. I had FW to crop it a bit to get the horizon level. FW Finding Nemo: FW http://www.xs4all.nl/~wuthrich/albums/Zandvoort/imgp0714.jpg I should say it is quite lovely. You know - I read it as no matter how hard you try you still cannot fly up above the water... at least some splashes would be touching you... Moment frozen just in time. Boris ([EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED])
RE: PAW: Quechee Gorge
Dan, My favorite shot of this batch is the third one, with the rocks in the river prominent and the bridge in the far backgorund. My parents used to take me to Quechee Gorge when I was a kid. I never hiked down into the gorge, but I'd hang over the bridge. I once took a photo of the gorge looking straight down from the bridge. I don't know how interesting that would be, but I thought it was cool when I was a kid. ;) I'll have to see if I can find those shots. You certainly picked a gorgeous place to go to college! Amita
Re: PAW - Kathy and Her Niece
Hi! SB It was the summer of 1968, and I was living in a small apartment in San SB Francisco. Across the panhandle, on Cole Street , lived Dick and Kathy, SB the Haight-Ashbury's most middle class couple. I'd just gotten my SB Spotmatic ... my very first real camera. I'd had it for but a week or two SB when Kathy's niece arrived for a visit. They spent a few hours fooling SB around (you may see more of their hi jinks later) for the camera. What we SB have here is just a little family snap. I hope you like it. Working on it SB brought back some fond memories. SB http://home.earthlink.net/~sbelinkoff/paw/kathy_and_niece.html Good ol' days. Shel, you evoked some of my own memories of 20 or so years back. Of course they are about Moscow and my childhood or teenagehood but I thank you nonetheless. By the way, I was born 3 years after this shot was taken g... It is simple yet it is sweet... Thanks. Boris ([EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: PAW: Bloor Street Flower Vendors
Hi! ft My last PAW before GFM: ft http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2391935 ft I'd be especially interested to hear your thoughts, as I'm not sure about ft this one. Sometimes I like it, due to the geometry and proportions of it. ft Others, I hate it (hate's a strong word; dislike?) because the couple's ft OOF, and the girl in particular, moved when she saw the camera, so there's ft no detail in her face. ft So, lemme know... Lettin' ya know ... Shame on me - I am still before GFM in my time line... Frank, this is very good urban shot. The funny thing is that when I tried to resize my IE window so as to crop off the people on the left, it stopped working. You know, your reluctance to crop does have a point. I really like the fact that the guy and his girl are looking in different directions. What could I say, it makes me think if NYC back in 1994 when I walking its streets... So, you have one voice pro... Boris ([EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: PAW - Exhausted
Hi! G Was at a Blue-Angels air show this weekend. Saw this toddler completely G pooped out from the heat and the long wait for the final show. She was G not the only one! Whew, it was hot. G http://home.austin.rr.com/randj/pics/imgp1638.jpg G Comments, suggestions, all welcome. I have only one wish - could you please have used wider aperture so that background would be as blurred as possible? It is a bit too crowded, though it reads well and I think it works. I can totally relate to hot... It is summertime in Israel - read +30C and more during the day and very humid during nights... No, we don't have A/C in our place. Boris ([EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Z1-P repair looking for parts or part camera
I remember they had the notice saying water damaged cameras won't be repaired when I was in their Vancouver office. Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan No they still support the Z-1p here in Canada, they just said that it was water damaged and although there is only visible damage on the one sub board in the handle they said that they can't just change that cause they can't isolate the damage to the board and couldn't warrenty the fix. Seems to me they just say water damage is unrepairable and don't want to touch it or do the required troubleshooting to determine that its just the subboard thats damaged. It has a short and they didn't know where it was in the camera (some tech eh?). I can buy the sub board for 50 Canadian but would rather buy a parts camera for the top and/or bottom as well as that board. _ MSN Premium includes powerful parental controls and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
Re: PAW - Exhausted
Hi! G Here is one of the shots I got of the planes in a daredevil formation: G http://home.austin.rr.com/randj/pics/imgp1693.jpg Oh, you lucky son of a gun g... Great, just great. Hope all of them landed in one piece... Makes me dizzy just looking at it... Thumbs up. Boris
Re: PAW - Legacy
Hi! DN Got to witness something that I always think of as quite special - a DN mantid ovipositing (that means laying eggs... and an ootheca is an egg-case) DN Like many insects, these things generally exist in the winter only in DN the form of eggs tucked away somewhere safe - at this time of year (it's DN autumn in Oz remember) the adult female is getting cold, her prey is DN scarce, and to ensure the continuation of her species she has to make a DN little foamy ootheca before her death. Come spring, ichneumons DN permitting, out will come a little regiment of baby mantids, at first DN hanging from silk threads, then going out to make their way in the world. DN I don't know whether I've managed to express myself well enough, but it DN is something that to me is quite touching. DN Needless to say, when I saw this one, I got my camera and took some DN snaps. It's Orthodera ministralis, the Garden Mantid. These things also DN have some pretty spectacular flash/display colouration. DN http://davidavid.whatsbeef.net/mantid.jpg DN As you can see, it's just finishing up the ootheca, and had scarpered DN five minutes later. Fascinating story and excellent illustration thereof g... Being able to capture the Nature in its action is always a great success for a photographer. At least so I think. Thanks for sharing. Boris ([EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED])
RE: The public and Pentax
Konica copiers are good. :-) Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan We tend to judge everything by camera products. Canon is so big to a good extent because of everything else they make, like copiers. Pentax might be a perfectly successful company and make almost nothing with cameras. Does anyone know what Konica makes its money on? _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN Premium http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
Re: PAW: Quechee Gorge
Thanks for your comments, Amita. Years ago, I tried the straight down shot as well, but my attempts gave no feel for how far down it is. In fact, I was shocked to read that it is only 163 feet from the bridge to the river; It always felt a lot higher, standing on the bridge. Yes, it was a beautiful place to go to college, except that the winters are very long and very cold. When I went to Dartmouth, across the Connecticutt River from Quechee, it was all male, which made the isolation more intense. That probably explains the fact that one of my classmates, Chris Miller, wrote Animal House and the story on which it was based. Amita Guha wrote: Dan, My favorite shot of this batch is the third one, with the rocks in the river prominent and the bridge in the far backgorund. My parents used to take me to Quechee Gorge when I was a kid. I never hiked down into the gorge, but I'd hang over the bridge. I once took a photo of the gorge looking straight down from the bridge. I don't know how interesting that would be, but I thought it was cool when I was a kid. ;) I'll have to see if I can find those shots. You certainly picked a gorgeous place to go to college!
Re: PAW - Kathy and Her Niece
Shel: This is actually one of my favorite pictures from Dario Bonazza's Vintage Spotmatic page. ( http://www.aohc.it/picte.htm ). Actually, I think I like the other photo of the same two people in a more animated pose even better. Good to see your standards were as high 35 years ago as today. Dan Shel Belinkoff wrote: SB It was the summer of 1968, and I was living in a small a partment in San SB Francisco. Across the panhandle, on Cole Street , lived Dick and Kathy, SB the Haight-Ashbury's most middle class couple. I'd just gotten my SB Spotmatic ... my very first real camera. I'd had it for but a week or two SB when Kathy's niece arrived for a visit. They spent a few hours fooling SB around (you may see more of their hi jinks later) for the camera. What we SB have here is just a little family snap. I hope you like it. Working on it SB brought back some fond memories. SB http://home.earthlink.net/~sbelinkoff/paw/kathy_and_niece.html
Re: PAW - Exhausted
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! G Was at a Blue-Angels air show this weekend. Saw this toddler completely G pooped out from the heat and the long wait for the final show. She was G not the only one! Whew, it was hot. G http://home.austin.rr.com/randj/pics/imgp1638.jpg G Comments, suggestions, all welcome. I have only one wish - could you please have used wider aperture so that background would be as blurred as possible? It is a bit too crowded, though it reads well and I think it works. Thanks for your comments. I know, I wish I would have been able to make the aperture wider. Unfortunately, because it was the *istD, the min ISO is 200. Which forced a relatively small aperture. On the flip side, because it was a 300mm lens, the DOF was not as bad as it would have been with a wider lens. A ND filter with this lens would have been out of the question, too much $$$! rg I can totally relate to hot... It is summertime in Israel - read +30C and more during the day and very humid during nights... No, we don't have A/C in our place. Boris ([EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Z1-P repair looking for parts or part camera
I could see that if I was asking for a warrenty repair but this was me paying for it, either way it doesn't matter know, I just have to order the part or find a parts camera, I was just checking here for someone with a parts camera before looking elsewhere. --- Alan Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember they had the notice saying water damaged cameras won't be repaired when I was in their Vancouver office. Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan No they still support the Z-1p here in Canada, they just said that it was water damaged and although there is only visible damage on the one sub board in the handle they said that they can't just change that cause they can't isolate the damage to the board and couldn't warrenty the fix. Seems to me they just say water damage is unrepairable and don't want to touch it or do the required troubleshooting to determine that its just the subboard thats damaged. It has a short and they didn't know where it was in the camera (some tech eh?). I can buy the sub board for 50 Canadian but would rather buy a parts camera for the top and/or bottom as well as that board. _ MSN Premium includes powerful parental controls and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines __ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
Re: Pulitzer Prize
haven't seen that movie, please let me know if you remember that title. maybe it would be better to set your camera to delay and take a picture of yourself saving the man? ;-) Rebekah - Original Message - From: Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 8:11 AM Subject: RE: Pulitzer Prize Hello and welcome Rebekah As far as I recall, a movie with this theme has been made, American I believe. I don't remember the title, but is was quite interesting. BTW: Why would the Pulitzer committee reward this? In Denmark it would be a felony not to try and help if you're 15 years or above! All the best Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Rebekah Gonzalez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 2. juli 2004 02:46 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Pulitzer Prize Hey there, been lurking for a while, thought I would add something. :o) If you found yourself in a situation where you could either save a drowning man, or you could take a Pulitzer prize winning photograph of him drowning, what shutter speed and setting would you use? - Paul Harvey Rebekah
RE: PAW: Quechee Gorge
When I went to Dartmouth, across the Connecticutt River from Quechee, it was all male, which made the isolation more intense. Interesting. My mother went to Colby Sawyer College, an all-female school. She tells me they used to bus the girls over to Dartmouth to socialize with the guys. Does this ring a bell at all? Maybe you knew my mom back then, hehe! ;) Amita
Re: What % AF? (was Af speed of the *ist D)
Rob Studdert stopped shooting portraits of bugs long enough to write: I would estimate that I've employed AF for less than 2% of the images I've made with the *ist D and then only using the central focus spot. I find AF sucks generally (and I do own a few fast AF lenses). So what percentage of shots do you shoot in AF mode and what AF modes if any? I use manual focus so much that I usually forget that auto focus is an option. 99% of my shooting is wildlife with long manual focus lenses, macro shots with weird combinations of my macro lens with teleconverters and tubes, and scenics with the shorter focal length lenses in my collection. My autofocus lenses: 20mm, 28mm, 50mm and 100mm macro and a couple zooms that I only use when I'm touring by motorcycle. I don't remember the last time I used AF with any of them. I'm sure I'll use AF much more when I finally get my hands on an FA 600/4. Tom Reese
Re: 6x7 'X' setting
Hi Steve. If you connect a flash to the camera, ie, the AF400T and plug it into the X socket on the side of the body,you can set the shutter speed dial to X (for 1/30 sync speed) or ,any speed slower than 1/60. If you find a 90 f2.8 LS lens the flash will sync from the shutter release on the lens and you can choose any speed. I also have the same camera and the SMC TAK 200 F4.Its a super lens. I really like my BW and slide results from the camera. Dave Hello, I have just bought a 6x7 body (with MLU, P67 105mm lens, and plain prism). I'm very pleased with it, and can imagine that I'll soon be expanding the kit, probably starting with a 200mm lens. I have one simple query: What's the difference between setting the speed dial to 'X' and setting it to 1/30th? I wondered whether 'X' was perhaps a purely mechanical setting, but testing with the battery removed suggests that it's not. I don't anticipate doing a lot of flash with this camera, but I do like to know what all the knobs are for. Steve.
Re: PAW: Quechee Gorge
Ah, yes. I remember what we used to call Colby Junior College very well. It was the closest women's school to Hanover, except for a small nursing school in town. It was quite small, and difficult to get to and from there in the winter, but there was quuite a bit of visiting back and forth. For freshman mixers, would run buses from as far away as Smith. I wouldn't embarrass your mother by admitting that she might know the likes of me. Amita Guha wrote: Interesting. My mother went to Colby Sawyer College, an all-female school. She tells me they used to bus the girls over to Dartmouth to socialize with the guys. Does this ring a bell at all? Maybe you knew my mom back then, hehe!
PAW: Pooch in a Pouch
Last of the dogs and their people series for now, anyway. I don't know why, but I think this one's funny: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2492691 Agree or not, I always like to hear your comments. I was shooting a bike race yesterday; the Ontario Criterium Championships here in Toronto. Should have a few rolls back tomorrow, so if any turned out, they will likely be my future PAW(s). Thanks in advance to those who comment. cheers, frank = The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
Re: PAW: Bloor Street Flower Vendors
--- Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! Lettin' ya know ... Shame on me - I am still before GFM in my time line... Frank, this is very good urban shot. The funny thing is that when I tried to resize my IE window so as to crop off the people on the left, it stopped working. You know, your reluctance to crop does have a point. I really like the fact that the guy and his girl are looking in different directions. What could I say, it makes me think if NYC back in 1994 when I walking its streets... So, you have one voice pro... Boris ([EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Funny, eh Boris? I have a shot (Julian Holding Fritz) that I really like, and you don't. Then, I have one that I'm ambivalent about, and you seem to like! Go figure. Thanks for your comments, however. I guess sometimes it's the emotions a photo evokes (in your case, a trip to NYC), something that the photographer could never know about, that makes or breaks a photo for a viewer. Glad you liked it. cheers, frank = The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
Re: PAW - Bridge
--- DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2491774size=lg Comments are welcome :-) DagT Dag, Another amazing photo!! This totally rocks. I mean, what's not to like? I like bikes; here's a bike. I like bridges; here's a bridge. I like interesting and innovative ways of looking at things; here's - okay, this could go on forever, but you get my drift... vbg I do (quite seriously) like the effect of focusing on a stationary object and letting things move through the frame all blurry and everything. Great comp here: just a bit of the wheels, pedals and legs of the rider in the photo to give a hint of the passing bike. Nicely blurred to give the impression of movement. A shot I'd be proud to have taken (is that damning with faint praise, or what? vbg). Very well done. cheers, frank = The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
Re: PAW: Quechee Gorge
--- Daniel J. Matyola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quechee Gorge is one of my favorite places. Located in central Vermont (USA), near the New Hampshire border, it is where US 4 crosses the Ottauquechee River, 163 feet (54 meters) below. The highway bridge was originally a railroad bridge, built in 1911 to replace a 19th century wooden railroad bridge. Quechee is just a few miles from where I went to college, accross the Connecticutt River, and we hiked there during my college days. These photographs were taken on a short hike I made with two fraternity brothers last year, during our 40th reunion: http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=409872 I love the gorge, but have always found it difficult to photograph. It is green and lush, but the stream bed and the cliffs are quite rugged and rocky. Usually, as on my last visit, the valley is misty, and the light is either very dim or quite harsh. I would appreciate any suggestions on how I could take a photograph that would show the unique qualities of this site better or from a more interesting perspective. Thanks, Dan Hi, Dan, Can't help you in the how to improve these shots category. As I discovered at GFM, I'm a woefully mediocre landscape guy. I like these, though. Each has an interesting perspective on what is obviously an beautiful part of the world. My only criticism is that the sky is washed out in each of them - as I said commenting on someone else's landscape last week, maybe it was a grey day, and there was nothing that could be done about it. And, I guess with a little digital ps, filters before the fact (ie: on the lens as opposed to in photoshop) aren't an option. Beautiful photos, in any event. thanks, frank = The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
Re: Selling pentax 35mm Trooper-subaru fan
--- Tom Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Well since we're getting well off topic My Honda does 140mph and 38mpg BUT, not at the same time!! I love it almost as much as my cameras... Peace and love, Tom My Rossin Pista does 30 mph - 40 down a hill, but gets phenomenal mileage. Probably 50 miles to the burger or pizza slice. Mind you, those are imperial measurements, not US. g cheers, frank = The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
Re: some shots from the new Air and space Museum
If you want to take a photo of the SR 71 in great lighting conditions you can always go to the display area just outside of Edwards AFB in California. In the middle of the desert on a concrete slab open to the elements, (read blazing sun), a pair of Blackbirds, just sitting there... If I can find the photo's I'll post them as a PAW. Steve Desjardins wrote: When I went to the new Hanger, I was amazed by how big the Blackbird was. It was nearly as big as the Concord, and I hadn't expected that. Of course, I should have realized that not being a fighter and having such a long range mission would make a bigger plane, but the reality was surprising. BTW, Christian is absolutely right about the light being lousy. Bring a monopod. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/02/04 02:36AM On Jul 2, 2004, at 10:36 AM, Cotty wrote: The SR-71 makes appearances at the RIAT, Oh man... you shouldn't have said that. I'd just about have to come over just to see that plane. I am truly fascinated by the SR71 and I'd love to actually see one. Getting to see one flying would be even better. Cheers, - Dave http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
Semi OT: Loene Carmen website
My friend, singer and actress Loene Carmen has put up her website. A few of my pics are in the gallery section (invariably taken with either the FA50/1.4 or the FA*85/1.4 http://www.loenecarmen.com/ D
Re: Film or Digital?......Decisions, Decisions.....
On 3 Jul 2004 at 1:58, Frantisek Vlcek wrote: I think it does. But who ever would like to shoot 144 frames at 3 fps? In sport situations (where this might be helpful), 3 fps is way too slow, and the AF of D70 can't keep up with sport anyway (I am using this camera BTW, along with, time to time, D100). The AF of both of them isn't anything groundbreaking. Anyway, the 144 jpeg applies only to basic or normal compression, and one would be advised to shoot in fine compression if shooting jpeg at all. The truth is generally less impressive than the marketing spiel. Thanks. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: What % AF? (was Af speed of the *ist D)
Same here. Maybe closer to 90%. Of course, it is 0% when I use my K2 g. Lewis which for me turns out to be 80%+ AF. Herb... - Original Message - From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 10:25 AM Subject: Re: What % AF? (was Af speed of the *ist D) That's true, but if you have the faculties to be able to effectively use AF or manual focus then you'll use the best option for the situation? _ MSN Toolbar provides one-click access to Hotmail from any Web page FREE download! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/
Re: Opinions wanted: 16-45 vs. 20-35 vs. 24-90
Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Giafranco, Hi Sylwek, I don't have DA 16-45/4 yet, but you could be interested in this link (just use translator like babelfish): http://www.pictchallenge.com/BxuREV7.html Thanks!! I was looking for something of that kind too. And I'm even able to read French... :-) Tests are fully independent and objective as they are made by... computer program - DXO Analyzer :-) In short 24-90 is quite sharp, but noticably worse at open apertures than DA 16-45 and FA has quite a big loss of sharpness in corners as compared to homogenous results from DA. DA suffers only from its chromatic aberrations in corners - they are quite noticable between 16-45mm. Otherwise they claim DA performance is similar to Nikkor DX 17-55/2.8 (~1400USD lens...). Good. I guess there is almost no alternative. Ciao, Gianfranco = _ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
Re: PAW: The River
--- Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G'day Cotty, Jens, Shel, rg, Tom, Peter, Boris Thanks for the comments - much appreciated. snip Brian, Having recently changed e-mails, I've got some posts that I can't reply to back on Hotmail (including your PAW), along with lots of comments re: same on Yahoo. So, I just had to go back and look at your photo, seeing all the comments and all. First off (non-sequitor alert) The River is among my favourite Bruce Springsteen albums, and the song is probably my favourite of his. Of course, that has nothing to do with your photo, which is fantastic, BTW. You may think it's a cliche, but if it is, it's a damn good one! The mood is perfect, as is the dull, misty colours and the composition. Putting the island and the shoreline that high up in the frame wouldn't have occured to me, but it works beautifully, emphasizing the still water and reflections, which as you said, are important elements of the photo. I could go on, but for the purposes of brevity, I'll just say it's a gorgeous photo. You should enter it in some contests; I don't see how you could lose. thanks, frank = The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
Re: Opinions wanted: 16-45 vs. 20-35 vs. 24-90
jtainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gianfranco, the DA 16-45 is a fine lens. I have tested it formally against the excellent FA 20-35. It is definitely in that class, and perhaps just a bit sharper than the 20-35. I have used the FA 24-90 but have not formally tested it. My impression is that the DA 16-45 is in the same class as the sharpest zooms I own -- the FA 20-35, the Tokina AT-X Pro 28-80 f2.8, and the Sigma EX 70-200 f2.8. Hi Joe, I too own the 20-35 and the Sigma EX 70-200. If it is in the same league I'll buy the 16-45 as soon as I can. One amazing thing about the lens is that it is quite good wide open. Pentax's own MTF evaluation is that the lens is actually best at f4.0 from 16 to 28 mm., and at f4.5 from 28 to 45 mm. That's extraordinary performance. It's also, of course, quite fine stopped down. I have shot it at f16 with very nice results. I have found that the 24-90 is fine (in the centre, at least) wide open on the *ist D, although not extraordinary. The fact that it performs that well wide open is vry interesting, as I shot a lot wide open. It goes well on the *ist D. There are occastional CA problems, but you will probably see these on many lenses. I have noticed it on only two shots out of several hundred. There is software to correct CA problems, and I would guess that more software (perhaps PS plug-ins) to correct this problem will be forthcoming. That's good. How's the handling? On the shelf it looked quite big mounted on the *ist D. I read on the KMP (thanks Boz!) that it weighs almost the same as the 24-90, but it is a bit longer. For *ist D zoom users, I cannot recommend this lens highly enough. It is one of the best zooms Pentax has made. The images it gives me are stunning. One is in this month's PUG (keep in mind that it is a reduced jpeg). For some reason Pentax is producing few of them, so if you want one grab the one you saw. They are hard to find. The price looked good, comparable to discount price here. Surprisingly, I thought that the price was a bit high; the shop where I saw the lens yesterday has almost only grey market stuff (the people were a bit rude too: they refused to show me the lens if I wasn't going to buy it). In another shop (where I ordered the lens at first, before the importer told us it was not available yet) the price was 415 Euro with the Italian warranty. Tough decisions... Thanks again for the enablement... :-) Ciao, Gianfranco = _ __ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
Re: Z1-P repair looking for parts or part camera
Alan commented: I guess it matters to Pentax because the potential problems are unknown for water damaged products. They might end up paying more than they like if anything went wrong with with the repair. The time required to troubleshoot might be too long as well. in response to: I could see that if I was asking for a warrenty repair but this was me paying for it, either way it doesn't matter know, I just have to order the part or find a parts camera, I was just checking here for someone with a parts camera before looking elsewhere. IMO, the one in your possession is a parts camera. Buy another Z1-p from KEH or somewhere. ERN
Re: some shots from the new Air and space Museum
--- Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Smithsonian institution opened a new museum near Dulles Airport in Virginia in December last year. My new employer (without naming names, it's the largest online company in America) had an All hands meeting there last night. We basically had the place to ourselves for 4 hours (i was there for only 2 and shot 100 frames or so). the scale of the place is amazing. Yes that is a real 707 parked next to the Concorde, adjacent to the B29... etc, etc. The scary part is that there is room for even more large aircraft. Oh, yeah, the space shttle Enterprise has its very own space as well (it never orbited, by the way, it was used for atmospheric (glider) testing and practice). Anyway, here are 18 pictures where I try to convey the scale and uniqueness of the place. Comments always welcome. http://home.mindspring.com/~c_skofteland/id20.html http://home.mindspring.com/~c_skofteland/id21.html http://home.mindspring.com/~c_skofteland/id22.html http://home.mindspring.com/~c_skofteland/id23.html Christian Hi, Christian, Some pretty cool stuff there. Geez, looks like one could lose one's self for hours (days?) in there! Like Norm, I love the Thunderbolt. One butt-ugly plane, but I understand the pilots loved it. Same with the Phantom. I love it, but damn it's ugly! IIRC, Dan flew them in Vietnam. I'll bet we'll hear from him on this thread (if we haven't already - gotta go back and look at the rest of the posts). Again, Christian, some great shots. It's not easy to make things in a museum look interesting and different (for lack of a better word), but you succeeded in spades here. cheers, frank = The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
Re: A trivial copyright matter.
Yes Malcolm, I have. I intend to donate a collection of slides, negatives and memorabilia taken or collected in the 1960's onwards to an institute set up to maintain an historical archive of the location, and I have given them free and clear copyright in my will. As regards your own purchases, I think if, when you bought the pictures, the seller gave you carte-blanche you would be entitled to rely on that, and particularly where the user is a not-for-profit organisation such as an historical society (no lawyer comments please!). I think we should all be aware that as active photographers, we will often be recording scenes that will soon no longer exist or will reflect a society that has changed beyond recognition (vide Shel's series of PAW's from the late '60's). We therefore have almost a duty to ensure that our (no doubt) grieving relatives don't bin all those old photos that Grandad took! John Coyle Brisbane, Australia - Original Message - From: Malcolm Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 10:29 PM Subject: OT: A trivial copyright matter. Here's the background to this minor matter; from time to time I visit local car boot sales and on rare occasions I've seen boxes of 35mm colour slides for sale. Nearly all of these I have looked at, put down and walked on, but I suppose twice in 5 years I have made an offer on them (silly money, pennies) for those which depict local scenes I can no longer go and take myself, as they no longer exist. One of my friends has suggested that a couple of them could be included in a historical society publication. I have declined any suggestion of publication but am quite happy for them to be shown as one or two of the images during a slide evening. I really only bought them for my own local historical interest. I would certainly be unhappy with any credit or attribution, as my only connection was paying a small sum for a box of them, I have no idea what camera was used and when it was taken and can only guess to within a couple of years the dates of the pictures. I have been told as I bought them, what I do with them is my concern. Regardless of whether this is entirely true or not, I don't feel happy with this at all. I would really like to know who took them and why and how they ended up in a car boot sale, but I never will. As for the future of these and my own record of local pictures, I will one day leave them to a local museum or society. It might be a curiosity to another generation. Has anyone else had any thoughts for the long term use/destination of their photographs? Malcolm
Re: OT: Off list for some days
Jens Bladt wrote: snip One of my favorites, Kieth Jarrett will be attending the festival next Friday! Guess this one is sold out already. Cheers Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt Keith Jarrett? KEITH FREAKING JARRETT??? Damn, I love that guy. Too bad you can't get tix for him, Jens. I mean, I know you'll love Ahmad Jamal, but Keith Jarrett... I don't know that he's ever played Toronto, or if he did, I don't know that I could afford to go, but I know I'd try. Anyway, enjoy the Jazz Festival, and take good pix for us to see when you get back! g cheers, frank = The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
Re: PAW - Homage to WES
--- Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shel Belinkoff wrote: snipI wonder what other people see. Upward, definitely. keith I'm in the up camp. It's not just his body language, it's the flow of the photo. The railing and the stairway seem to naturally start at the bottom and move up. My eye seems to automatically or reflexively (both of these are wrong, but I'm not thinking tonight) start at the bottom and work up to the top of this photo. It's what the composition does to me, anyway. Shel, I'm still putting my thoughts together for a more comprehensive comment on this one... cheers, frank = The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
Re: PAW - Boy and Dog
Gonz wrote: Since there have been several People + Dog PAWs recently, I thought I would add to the chorus. http://home.austin.rr.com/randj/pics/imgp1529web.jpg Here is another one from the same set, but the darn background messed up what would have been a very cool pic with the Boy and the Dog wearing the same expression: http://home.austin.rr.com/randj/pics/imgp1539web.jpg Comments and critique welcome! Gonz, I like 'em both, but the first is especially captivating. The child's expression of determination is ~very~ well captured. Great, humourous photograph!! cheers, frank = The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
Re: PAW: Waiting for the trailer
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.caughtinmotion.com/paw/shedrow.jpg Its not uncommon,if you don't own your own trailer,to spend many hours at a horse show than you need to. This family was up at 4am to ready their horse,and trailer to this show via the farm truck. She has just finished,late in the afternoon (its around 6pm)and now must wait for the ride home.I think this shot shows that,even with out the explination. I tried cropping the other lady and or the post,but it took a lot out of the shot and did not give it that farm look. As always comments welcome and hope you enjoy this. Dave Brooks Dave, Wonderful photo. You've really captured the exhaustion of a day's competition (not to mention travel and preparation). You've also capturered the bond between these two women, leaning on each other for (it appears) emotional as well as physical support. I agree: leave in the woman on the phone. Too bad she's behind the bars, but she's a part of the post-show action. This is a wonderfully emotional photo, Dave. Thanks for sharing it. cheers, frank = The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
FS: Items at auction
This lot might not be too interesting to bargain hunters but next weeks load may be... stay tuned. http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItemsuserid=distudio Cheers, Rob Studdert (eBay ID: distudio) http://members.ebay.com.au/aboutme/distudio/ PO Box 701 HURSTVILLE BC NSW 1481 AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please check my current eBay auctions: http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/ebay/
Re: FS: Items at auction
--- Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This lot might not be too interesting to bargain hunters but next weeks load may be... stay tuned. http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItemsuserid=distudio Cheers, Rob Studdert (eBay ID: distudio) http://members.ebay.com.au/aboutme/distudio/ PO Box 701 HURSTVILLE BC NSW 1481 AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please check my current eBay auctions: http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/ebay/ Would you buy a used camera from this guy? vbg just curious, frank = The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
For Sale Friday
I am selling a top quality macro lenses/bellows setup on ebay this week: http://jcoconnell.com/JCO_AUCT.HTM It's M42 but can easily be adapted to nearly any 35mm SLR/DSLR. Later, JCO J.C. O'Connell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jcoconnell.com
Re: PAW: Waiting for the trailer
--- frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mostly drivel, as usual PS: Just went back and looked again, and I noticed the crap on boots of the young lady on the right. Nice touch. I know you didn't put it there or anything, Dave, but it's just one of those details that reminds us that we're not looking at a posed shot, or some planted models or something. It's reality. Also, it reminds me of the scene of Monty Python and the Holy Grail where Arthur is walking across the field, and is identified as King: Serf 1: How do you know he's the king? Serf 2: He's the only one without shit on his robe. vbg cheers, frank PPS: we haven't had a Python reference for a while (that I've seen), so I figured we were due... g = The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
Re: PAW/PESO - mushroom cloud
--- David Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G'day, Haven't posted a PAW for a while, so here's a PESO, just wondering what people think. I'm sort of in two minds about the image, but it's the result of a little project, thought posting it was better than nothing at all. So, without further ado, I give you Mushroom cloud. http://davidavid.whatsbeef.net/m-cloud.jpg It's a composite of two images - these things (I think it's a type of earth-star, and/or a puff-ball) don't just puff away like that. (BTW - when I said one of these things looked rather erotic a while ago on another list there was a big embarrassed silence and I don't think the fungiphiles were very impressed q-:) I'll try to remember to thank you for your comments if and when you give them, but if I don't, here's a thank you. Later, David Awesome photo, David!! You're right, there is an erotic element to it. One of the first thoughts that came to my mind when I looked at it was opium den. Okay, I've never been to an opium den, but I've seen movies... vbg Technically stunning photo: I love the black background. Lighting is about perfect, IMHO. Composition is on par with the technical bits. It's all very surreal looking. I love this thing!! (not in an erotic way, I assure you). cheers, frank = The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
Re: Film or Digital?......Decisions, Decisions.....
Frantisek Vlcek wrote: LA True, but only in jpeg format. Do you know if when running at 3 fps LA the D70 will refocus and recalculate exposure between each shot? If I think it does. But who ever would like to shoot 144 frames at 3 fps? The same person who'd want to shoot 100ft of 35mm at 5fps... In sport situations (where this might be helpful), 3 fps is way too slow, and the AF of D70 can't keep up with sport anyway (I am using this camera BTW, along with, time to time, D100). The AF of both of them isn't anything groundbreaking. Anyway, the 144 jpeg applies only to basic or normal compression, and one would be advised to shoot in fine compression if shooting jpeg at all. Best regards, Frantisek Vlcek
Re: PAW/PESO - mushroom cloud
I must have missed the original post for this. This is a wonderful image. My offbeat comment is why should fungiphiles be embarrassed, we are looking at the creatures sex organ. frank theriault wrote: --- David Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G'day, Haven't posted a PAW for a while, so here's a PESO, just wondering what people think. I'm sort of in two minds about the image, but it's the result of a little project, thought posting it was better than nothing at all. So, without further ado, I give you Mushroom cloud. http://davidavid.whatsbeef.net/m-cloud.jpg It's a composite of two images - these things (I think it's a type of earth-star, and/or a puff-ball) don't just puff away like that. (BTW - when I said one of these things looked rather erotic a while ago on another list there was a big embarrassed silence and I don't think the fungiphiles were very impressed q-:) I'll try to remember to thank you for your comments if and when you give them, but if I don't, here's a thank you. Later, David Awesome photo, David!! You're right, there is an erotic element to it. One of the first thoughts that came to my mind when I looked at it was opium den. Okay, I've never been to an opium den, but I've seen movies... vbg Technically stunning photo: I love the black background. Lighting is about perfect, IMHO. Composition is on par with the technical bits. It's all very surreal looking. I love this thing!! (not in an erotic way, I assure you). cheers, frank = The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
Re: PAW: Pooch in a Pouch
I must say this is the kind of photo we expect from Frank Theriault in his own inimitable style. Just looking at it makes me smile as well. frank theriault wrote: Last of the dogs and their people series for now, anyway. I don't know why, but I think this one's funny: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2492691 Agree or not, I always like to hear your comments. I was shooting a bike race yesterday; the Ontario Criterium Championships here in Toronto. Should have a few rolls back tomorrow, so if any turned out, they will likely be my future PAW(s). Thanks in advance to those who comment. cheers, frank = The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
Re: PAW: Waiting for the trailer
Hi Dave, Glad Frank commented on this pic. It's got a lot going for it, but it also has some problems. No comment on the value of the gate and post in the foreground. I don't think I like it from a compositional point of view, yet iIdo think it adds an element that contributes to the feel and sense of place. Not sure about the color balance. I played a bit with it and couldn't come up with anything better in my quick fiddling, yet it may be able to be improved. However, that's subjective, too, I suppose. After looking at it a second time I figured out what really bothered me. The darn photo is tilted about one degree or so to the left. This puts the perpendiculars, such as the fence post in the foreground and the other verticals at just enough of an angle to upset the balance of the photo. Try rotating the pic one degree (try 1.06 degrees) clockwise and see what you think. The resultant verticals, now perpendicular to the ground, and the now horizontal elements, add strength to the image, framing the women leaning on one another much more strongly, adding more emotion and impact to the scene. The result of that small change will require a slight crop, which, imo, the photo needed. The slightly tighter crop really takes nothing from the image that's needed, yet gives it a little more punch. Shel [Original Message] From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 7/2/2004 7:20:40 PM Subject: Re: PAW: Waiting for the trailer --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.caughtinmotion.com/paw/shedrow.jpg Its not uncommon,if you don't own your own trailer,to spend many hours at a horse show than you need to. This family was up at 4am to ready their horse,and trailer to this show via the farm truck. She has just finished,late in the afternoon (its around 6pm)and now must wait for the ride home.I think this shot shows that,even with out the explination. I tried cropping the other lady and or the post,but it took a lot out of the shot and did not give it that farm look. As always comments welcome and hope you enjoy this. Dave Brooks Dave, Wonderful photo. You've really captured the exhaustion of a day's competition (not to mention travel and preparation). You've also capturered the bond between these two women, leaning on each other for (it appears) emotional as well as physical support. I agree: leave in the woman on the phone. Too bad she's behind the bars, but she's a part of the post-show action. This is a wonderfully emotional photo, Dave. Thanks for sharing it. cheers, frank = The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
Re: reverse ekphrastic offensive
Hi! ein OK, after some time defending myself on the rich suburban mom thing ein (mosty pointing out that it was uttered in the gear/skill/results context ein not the pro/amateur/uses context) I figured I'd actually address the ein pro/amateur/uses thing by refering to a concept I bumped into in ein my abortive graduate work in visual communications. (What actually got ein aborted was the program, not my studies...) ... the rest snipped ... Thanks for the interesting reading. I think at least part of these ideas were hiding somewhere in the background of my brain. You brought them to focus g. Thanks! Boris ([EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: PAW: Shell
Hi! DM This week's image is from the beach. DM http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/cgi-bin/paw.cgi?date=22-May-2004 Dave, this is fantastic. I am very square at times g so I'd like to point out that three bright specks on the right above and on the side of the shell could be edited out. Otherwise, my hat's off. Just great. Thanks. Boris ([EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Gaurav's PAW #5: Indian Parliament house
Hi GA http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2351011size=lg GA An ordinary scan of a picture taken just when I was getting interested GA in photography and had bought a camera from rec.photo.35mm.equipment. GA Scanned from a 4x6 print at 200 dpi. Comments on composition, lighting GA welcome inspite of the poor scan etc. Gaurav, this is very interesting shot. Knowing how it was scanned and processed I have nothing to day about technical side of the coin. However, I should say I find the fact that building is partially covered with the gate a bit distractive. You see, it is unclear to me whether you wanted to show the beautiful building in the as beautiful a frame or you wanted to say that this building does not belong here, and you crossed it with the silhouette of the gate. I should say that silhouette of the monkey on the top adds to the confusion. You know what - it sill works for me. It has many meanings and therefore it makes one stop and stare at it wandering between the meanings. I'd say it is rather successful. Hope I make at least some sense to you. Thanks. Boris ([EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: PAW dragonfly
Hi! SK http://makeashorterlink.com/?O10332668 SK If this doesn't work try: SK http://www.bluehorizon3d.com/cgi-bin/IB3/ikonboard.cgi?s=af7ea03d84fdfa9ba39 SK 369a476bba910;act=ST;f=9;t=4;r=1 SK Let me know what you think! I should say I really like this one. Very geometric with nice bokeh. I have one minor gripe - the midsection of dragonfly falls onto one of the black/darker parts of bokeh and it makes the 'fly look broken in the middle. Still, this is top grade macro work. Thanks! Boris ([EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: PAW: A boy and his dog.
Hi! DJM Thanks Boris! DJM I wish I could try again. The dog is long gone, and the boy is 31. At DJM the age show in the photo, it was rare to get one to slow down long DJM enough to get a photo, let alone both. They were sitting down looking DJM very nice, but when I grabbed the camera, they both gave me the deer in DJM the headlights look. As soon as I snapped, the ran off to continue DJM their game with the tennis ball. This is the best I have to remember DJM them by. Oh sigh, how sad. Let's hope the boy has/would have kids of his own and hope he likes to point a camera to them every now and then. Boris ([EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: FS: Items at auction
On Fri, 2 Jul 2004 22:27:30 -0400 (EDT), frank theriault wrote: --- Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This lot might not be too interesting to bargain hunters but next weeks load may be... stay tuned. http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItemsuserid=distudio Would you buy a used camera from this guy? vbg just curious, frank If you don't buy it from him you can buy it from me. I am thinking of selling one of my MZ-S's and a BG-10. In similar condition to Rob's - it's had about 40 rolls of film through it. I'll have to see how well Rob does selling his. Leon http://www.bluering.org.au http://www.bluering.org.au/leon
Re: What's the best zoom(s) for M42?
- Original Message - From: Raimo K Subject: Re: What's the best zoom(s) for M42? Usually, yes - but IMO my old 4.5/80-200 SMC Pentax-M was better than my 4.0/200 SMC Pentax-M. I wonder what the deal was at the time with their 200mm f/4 lenses? I have the M200 f/4 and quite right, it isn't one of their better attempts. The 6x7 Takumar 200mm f/4 isn't an especially good lens either. Did they make a 645 200mm f/4 as well back then? Was it any good? William Robb
