Re: Darkroom Equipment Aquisition

2004-12-07 Thread Cotty
On 6/12/04, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed:

Nope, not geodesic.  It's a fiberglass observatory with rotating roof and 
shutter.  I take it you must have an interest in geodesics?

22nd contributor down from the top. Posted back in 1999.


P.S. The dome size just went from 6 to 10 feet in diameter after I've given 
it some more thought.  More room for a party.

As my son sayswicked!




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Re: Photoshop CS Bargain Basement

2004-12-07 Thread Bob W
Hi,

  ... It would be
 really interesting to see if any company had the mettle to reduce their
 price by a couple of orders of magnitude to try to corner the market.

it happens quite often. A lot of software is free for non-professional
use, or free through an open source licence. It's not necessarily
done to corner the market. Often it's done just to try and take a
piece away from the market leader. For example, Sun's StarOffice cost
me less than £30- from Amazon; the open source version OpenOffice is
free. For most purposes it's as good as the Microsoft Office suite,
which costs several hundreds of £. In many ways it's better.

The ones who won't reduce their prices are the ones who have already
cornered the market. That's the whole point of a monopoly - you can
charge whatever you want!

Where they face serious competition, or when they're introducing
something new that they want developers to take up, Microsoft also
gives away some very useful software, such as the SQL Server database
engine, Web Matrix and others.

-- 
Cheers,
 Bob



Re: PAW - Bee and Flower Pic ;-))

2004-12-07 Thread Cotty
Two beekeepers are chatting. One says to the other, ' So how many bees do
you have then?'

The second beekeeper answers, 'Oh about twenty thousand'.

The first says, 'Twenty thousand, eh? Right. And so how many hives do you
have?'

The second answers, ' Ten hives'.

The first says, 'Ten? Hmmm, twenty thousand bees, ten hives. Hmmm.' He
nods approvingly.

The second beekeeper asks, 'So how many bees do you have?'

The first says, 'Me? Oh, I've got about a million.'

The second beekeeper looks surprised. 'A million! Holy cow, how many
hives do you have?'

The first answers 'Oh just the one hive'.

The second is astonished. 'A million bees and only one hive???'

The first pauses and thinks, realising the gravity of the situation.

He says 'Yeah well. Fuck 'em, they're only bees...'





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Re: PAW: Rossin Pista

2004-12-07 Thread Cotty
On 6/12/04, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:


http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2938717size=lg

Your comments are always welcome, and I thank those in advance who
look and are compelled to comment.

Must be a cyclist thing Frank ;-)




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Re: The one that got away

2004-12-07 Thread Cotty
On 7/12/04, David Mann, discombobulated, unleashed:

A black K2 is pretty collectible if it's in good condition.

Yes especially the professional version




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Re: Your best M42 mount lenses.

2004-12-07 Thread Cotty
On 6/12/04, Gateway, discombobulated, unleashed:

My apologies for infiltrating the group. I don't shoot with a Pentax, I
shoot with a Canon.

There, I got it off my chest.

Wait, it gets worse, it's a Canon digital.

Now the bit where I try and score some brownie points. I love using manual
focus (mostly because it's more acurate) and The Takumar and CZJ lenses that
I have bought so far are absolutely phenomenal. Now I need to buy more. I
have a whole slew of 50's and 55's and a couple of 35's (the Flektogon
35/2.4 is great but haven't had a chance to try out the Takumar 35/3.5 yet).

Everything I shoot is 135mm or less. can I get some thoughts on some of the
great M42 lenses that I should consider buying.

Once again, sorry.

Gateway (of that is indeed your name, or can I call you Col. Bat Guano??)

You Do Not Want To Look Here:

http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/mods/eoskmount.html

Bwahahahahaaa




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Re: MZ-S

2004-12-07 Thread James
When I break wind, smells like someone has died and people say  oh my GOD 
thus proving god isn't dead ;)

James

On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 22:22:41 +, Nietzsche wrote:

God is dead.








PESO a couple of wood peckers

2004-12-07 Thread Francis
Hi all,
I just got back this month's film and thought I might post a few that I've 
scanned.

Pilleated wood pecker
http://www.photosynth.ca/photo/f/pilleated.jpg
I had been chasing these guys around all fall when one day i spotted this 
fellow in the apple rite by our front porch. unfortunately the light was 
quite low and this was the only one out of about eight that was acceptably 
crisp.

Sap sucker. I think.
http://www.photosynth.ca/photo/f/sap-sucker.jpg
Critiques more than welcome.
Thanks in advance,
Francis 



Re: Russian pancake portrait lens

2004-12-07 Thread Margus Männik
Hi,
just one question - why not to get black M42 (Industar-50-2) instead of 
silver M39 ? Optical formula of those two are identical, but I've found 
newer lenses to have better antireflective coatings. I have about 5 or 6 
ones in my collection, some with cameras and some alone.
Older lens with digital... oh yes, I've tried '54 Industar-22 (standard 
lens for first Zenit, non-collapsible version) and '56 Helios-44 (one of 
standard lenses for Zenit-S) with *ist D, while writing an overview for 
our photo/computer magazine.

BR, Margus
Juan Buhler wrote:
A few days ago I inquired about a 39mm to 42mm adapter because I
wanted to try an old Industar Zenit lens in the ist D. Well, Shel
loaned me his, so behold this anachronism, the black tape special
edition soviet * ist D:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/1990444/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/1990443/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/1990442/
As seen in the first image, the serial number of the Industar starts
in 59, which means 1959. Has anyone mounted older lenses on their
digital cameras?
Anyway, as it is, the lens doesn't seem to focus to infinity, even
though it should (it is an SLR lens, and there are adapters for M42
made to be used with it). It makes for a nice portrait lens though.
I might even go out and take some pictures with it now.
j
 




Re: The one that got away

2004-12-07 Thread Paul Stenquist
I was watching that auction. I was troubled by the 85 being described 
as an M 85/1.8. Are you sure it wasn't an M 85/2? If I'm not mistaken, 
I think all the other lenses were M versions.
Paul
On Dec 6, 2004, at 11:07 PM, Peter Spiro wrote:

This was a very nice set with a black K2 and six lenses, including an 
85mm f/1.8.

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3856266592
I was the high bidder until one minute before the end of the auction.  
 The winner was a dealer, so watch for the individual items to 
re-appear on eBay.  I suspect he overpaid, however.  The items besides 
the 85mm are probably not worth more than $600 sold separately.   The 
85mm sells for about $300, but even that won't give him much profit 
for all the trouble he's going to.





OT: Computer help

2004-12-07 Thread mike.wilson
Hi,
I know some people are using WinME.
Here is an excellent page of simply written, comprehensive information 
on maintaining the OS in as best condition as you can.

http://users.adelphia.net/~jgulley/me/index.html
mike
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Re: My Latest M42 Lens, Auto Mamiya/Sekor SX 85mm F1.7

2004-12-07 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Mon, 6 Dec 2004, William Robb wrote:

 That looks really very nice. I don't know if it's true or not, I had
 heard that Mamiya wanted to emulate the smooth look of their RB
 lenses in their 35mm glass.
 Looking at the rendition that lens is giving, I can well believe it
 is so.

Even I (who should not be able to see differences between lenses) am
impressed. There is a clarity (resolution?) which jumps right at me.
Well done JC.

Kostas



Re: My Latest M42 Lens, Auto Mamiya/Sekor SX 85mm F1.7

2004-12-07 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: J. C. O'Connell 
Subject: RE: My Latest M42 Lens, Auto Mamiya/Sekor SX 85mm F1.7


FYI,
I added a couple of BW images at the bottom of the page.
I wouldn't mind seeing how it does as a portrait lens. 
I bet it rocks.

William Robb


Re: Photoshop CS Bargain Basement

2004-12-07 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: mike wilson
Subject: Re: Photoshop CS Bargain Basement


Let's say you are a member of a large orchestra.  You take years to 
learn your instrument and weeks to learn a particular piece, along 
with your colleagues.  A huge investment of time and effort. It is 
recorded and released on CD.  Why is it $6, not $600?  The answer, 
of course, is the effect of scale.  At a cheap price, you can sell 
more and make the same, or better, profit.  I know there are other 
factors involved in the argument but, for me, software is 
_grotesquely_ overpriced.  It would be really interesting to see if 
any company had the mettle to reduce their price by a couple of 
orders of magnitude to try to corner the market.
I did a seminar a few years back with a very good and successful 
photographer.
On pricing, he said that if you want to drop your price 10%, you will 
have to do 40% more work to make up for the price drop.
My Photoshop instructor mentioned one time that something like 90% of 
the installed Photoshop programs are pirated, with the other 10% 
being legitimate installs.
People will take things for free if they have the opportunity, no 
matter what the cost is. I see it every day, with people shoplifting 
cheap trinkets out of my store.
Pirating is what keeps the cost of software high. If those other 90% 
bought, everyone would pay significantly less. The cost of theft is 
built into the price, and the honest consumers pay for the crooks.

William (no stolen software on my machine) Robb 




Re: OT - Epson Printer

2004-12-07 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: Shel Belinkoff
Subject: OT - Epson Printer


Hi gang,
I want an inexpensive printer for making QD proof prints and as an
introduction to inkjet printing.  The Epson C-84 was suggested as a
possibility.  Price is certainly right.  Any thoughts on this puppy 
or
similar inexpensive options?  Thanks
I've been using it's predecessor (the C-80) quite happily for the 
same thing for a few years now.
No real issues with it, and it uses permanent pigment inks rather 
than dye inks.
The only real issue is that the inks are quite prone to metamerizing.

William Robb 




Re: The one that got away

2004-12-07 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: Cotty 
Subject: Re: The one that got away


On 7/12/04, David Mann, discombobulated, unleashed:
A black K2 is pretty collectible if it's in good condition.
Yes especially the professional version
Cotty, the black one is the professional version.
William Robb


Re: The one that got away

2004-12-07 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: Paul Stenquist
Subject: Re: The one that got away


I was watching that auction. I was troubled by the 85 being 
described as an M 85/1.8. Are you sure it wasn't an M 85/2? If I'm 
not mistaken, I think all the other lenses were M versions.
If you look at  all the individual pictures, I think by process of 
elimination, there has to be a K 85/1.8 in there.
It's an easy mistake to make if you aren't aware of the K lenses. I 
identified a K105/2.8 that I had bought as an M series on list one 
time. I didn't know at the time that there even was a K series, I 
thought they were all Ms.

William Robb 




Re: MZ-S - new to me

2004-12-07 Thread Bob Sullivan
Tom from New Jersey?


On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 23:05:31 -0500, frank theriault
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 14:49:17 -0600, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Nick,
 
  Bruce showed us how rotate the dial with a pull at Grandfather
  Mountain this year.
  He had somebody's MZ-S (Caesar's? or Tom C.'s?).  Bruce sure does know
  his equipment.  I remembered the trick when I got the camera and have
  had no dial problems.
 
  I checked the roll counter on my first roll of film.  The camera looks
  mint and the straps, etc. had never been put on it.  The count on my
  1st roll was 27.  I'm just hoping that means only 26 other rolls have
  been thru the camera.
 
 Congrats on a new toy, Bob.
 
 Was Tom C. at GFM?  If so, I didn't meet him.
 
 cheers,
 frank
 
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Re: Your best M42 mount lenses.

2004-12-07 Thread Jon Glass
On Dec 7, 2004, at 1:29 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No problem. You're not the only one on this list who uses Pentax 
lenses on a Canon body.
Sorry, but you all sparked my curiosity! Somehow, I haven't heard this 
before... How does this work? Do only M42 lenses work, or do K-mount 
lenses work also? This is so weird, that I just have to hear more... 
:-)
--
-Jon Glass
Krakow, Poland
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




mx shutter behavior

2004-12-07 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
I checked out a used MX last night.
The shutter mechanism behaved in a way I've not seen before.

But use the self timer and ...
a) the mirror would only shudder a bit (9/10 times) when it fires
b) the next shot would (9/10 times) do the same.

After that point it would work fine.  And under normal operation it worked 
fine.  Couldn't get it to misfire at all.

Thoughts?

Sincerely,

C. Brendemuehl
 





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Re: My Latest M42 Lens, Auto Mamiya/Sekor SX 85mm F1.7

2004-12-07 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
I'd love a shootout against the A100/2.8
The rendering looks good.

What have you been able to gather about the optical formula?

Sincerely,

C. Brendemuehl
 





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Re: OT - Epson Printer

2004-12-07 Thread Doug Franklin
On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 23:06:04 -0800, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

 I want an inexpensive printer for making QD proof prints and as
 an introduction to inkjet printing.  The Epson C-84 was suggested
 as a possibility.  Price is certainly right.  Any thoughts on 
 puppy or similar inexpensive options?

I can't comment on this printer specifically, or it's competitors, for
that matter.  I have an Epson Stylus Photo 820 that I feel does really
well up to the 8 x 10 prints that I've done on it.

My comment, though, is that the really cheap printers are built and
sold on the Razors  Blades plan.  They more or less give you the
printer and make their profits on the ink.  So, if you're doing a lot
of volume, the ink costs can eat you up.  I usually get about 30 or so
8 x 10 prints from a color cartridge on the 820.  The cartridge costs
about US$ 25, so it's around a buck a pop in ink.

And since you're doing proof prints, I wouldn't get the third-party ink
cartridges (or refill kits) unless I had the time and equipment and
software to do full calibrations for the third-party inks.  I'd also
recalibrate more often using third-party inks, since I figure Epson
probably goes to more effort to insure lot-to-lot consistency.

TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ




RE: Photoshop CS Bargain Basement

2004-12-07 Thread Don Sanderson
Thank you William, well said.
Since I make part of my living selling software
I stayed out of this, I get too hot.

Don

 -Original Message-
 From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 6:29 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Photoshop CS Bargain Basement
 
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: mike wilson
 Subject: Re: Photoshop CS Bargain Basement
 
 
 
 
  Let's say you are a member of a large orchestra.  You take years to 
  learn your instrument and weeks to learn a particular piece, along 
  with your colleagues.  A huge investment of time and effort. It is 
  recorded and released on CD.  Why is it $6, not $600?  The answer, 
  of course, is the effect of scale.  At a cheap price, you can sell 
  more and make the same, or better, profit.  I know there are other 
  factors involved in the argument but, for me, software is 
  _grotesquely_ overpriced.  It would be really interesting to see if 
  any company had the mettle to reduce their price by a couple of 
  orders of magnitude to try to corner the market.
 
 I did a seminar a few years back with a very good and successful 
 photographer.
 On pricing, he said that if you want to drop your price 10%, you will 
 have to do 40% more work to make up for the price drop.
 My Photoshop instructor mentioned one time that something like 90% of 
 the installed Photoshop programs are pirated, with the other 10% 
 being legitimate installs.
 People will take things for free if they have the opportunity, no 
 matter what the cost is. I see it every day, with people shoplifting 
 cheap trinkets out of my store.
 Pirating is what keeps the cost of software high. If those other 90% 
 bought, everyone would pay significantly less. The cost of theft is 
 built into the price, and the honest consumers pay for the crooks.
 
 William (no stolen software on my machine) Robb 
 
 



Re: MZ-S (a new beginning)

2004-12-07 Thread Carlos Royo
Jack Davis escribió:
Still would appreciate almost any opinion as to auto
focus/motor drive aspects of the MZ-S.
Hello, Jack:
I have had an MZ-S for three years, and although I'm not rich enough to 
own an FA 28-70 2.8, I use a Tokina 28-70 2.6-2.8 ATX Pro II on this 
camera, and also an FA* 80-200 2.8
It focuses really fast with the Tokina 2.6-2.8, and not so much with the 
FA 80-200 2.8, but continuous predictive AF works well with the 80-200. 
I have had excellent results shooting different moving objects going at 
80-100 kph many times.
As someone has told you some messages ago, focusing in low light is 
really good too, much better than most AF SLRs.



Re: MZ-S (a new beginning)

2004-12-07 Thread Carlos Royo
Jack Davis escribió:
Bob,
Your response is appreciated.
I haven't double checked this, but I thought the fps
was designed to be something like 2.5.
Hope it serves you well.
It is 2.5 fps, with or without the BG-10


Re: The one that got away

2004-12-07 Thread Cotty
On 7/12/04, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:

Cotty, the black one is the professional version.

Of course. I knew there was a way of telling. Is that bag that comes with
it a pro bag?




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Re: Your best M42 mount lenses.

2004-12-07 Thread Cotty
On 7/12/04, Jon Glass, discombobulated, unleashed:

Sorry, but you all sparked my curiosity! Somehow, I haven't heard this 
before... How does this work? Do only M42 lenses work, or do K-mount 
lenses work also? This is so weird, that I just have to hear more... 
:-)

K mount lenses do not work on Canon bodies, no how no way.

EOS-K mounts do ;-)




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RE: Your best M42 mount lenses.

2004-12-07 Thread J. C. O'Connell
since the canon EOS bodies have such a large throat, I do
not understand why a simple EOS(body) to PK(lens) adapter would
not be possible including infinity focus

do these adapters exist now or not?

JCO

-Original Message-
From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 9:11 AM
To: pentax list
Subject: Re: Your best M42 mount lenses.


On 7/12/04, Jon Glass, discombobulated, unleashed:

Sorry, but you all sparked my curiosity! Somehow, I haven't heard this
before... How does this work? Do only M42 lenses work, or do K-mount 
lenses work also? This is so weird, that I just have to hear more... 
:-)

K mount lenses do not work on Canon bodies, no how no way.

EOS-K mounts do ;-)




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Good news

2004-12-07 Thread Cotty
I've just had some excellent news. I've had an order in with SRB Film
services here in the UK for three EOS-K mounts, and they are all done and
will be with me in a day or two. This means I will be able to use my A*85
and K15 on the Darkside camera again. I also have the K50 1.2 that I dare
say young Ryan might like to have a little play with when he arrives here
later this week for a short stay.

He'll be seeing a bit of the Cotswolds and some of Oxford this weekend -
should give us plenty of picture making opps. Will advise.




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RE: Your best M42 mount lenses.

2004-12-07 Thread Gateway
Hang on a second, I lost the sense in the thread. Can I get a K mount ot
work on my Canon 20D?

Regards to Cotty,

Gareth (Outlook seems to  want to call me Gateway, I sent a note to Bill
Gates about the mistaken identity).



-Original Message-
From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 9:11 AM
To: pentax list
Subject: Re: Your best M42 mount lenses.


On 7/12/04, Jon Glass, discombobulated, unleashed:

Sorry, but you all sparked my curiosity! Somehow, I haven't heard this
before... How does this work? Do only M42 lenses work, or do K-mount
lenses work also? This is so weird, that I just have to hear more...
:-)

K mount lenses do not work on Canon bodies, no how no way.

EOS-K mounts do ;-)




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Re: Your best M42 mount lenses.

2004-12-07 Thread Cotty
On 7/12/04, J. C. O'Connell, discombobulated, unleashed:

since the canon EOS bodies have such a large throat, I do
not understand why a simple EOS(body) to PK(lens) adapter would
not be possible including infinity focus

do these adapters exist now or not?

Well, I did see an auction pointed out to me with such an adapter, but
the crucial thing is the aperture lever on the back of the lens - it must
be removed as there is no space for it inside the camera body, despite
such a deep, er large throat.




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Re: Your best M42 mount lenses.

2004-12-07 Thread Cotty
On 7/12/04, Gateway, discombobulated, unleashed:

Hang on a second, I lost the sense in the thread. Can I get a K mount ot
work on my Canon 20D?

I don't know, but I can.






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D questions

2004-12-07 Thread David Zaninovic
I got my D and now I have some questions. :)
I am also new to autofocus on SLR cameras.

How many stuck pixels am I supposed to have ?  I think I have 4.  I can see 
them when jpg is generated by the camera but I can't
find them when I use raw and Photoshop RAW converter, which is strange.  I will 
use RAW mostly but it is disturbing to have
something not working correctly.  Is there a software which can remove this 
stuck pixels by knowing the position as it is always the
same ?  Should I return the camera and get another one ?  I will investigate 
this more closely tonight.

AF is really bad in low light with 16-45, I think it is worse than my Canon S45 
PS, mostly because Canon has AF assist lamp.  Is
there such a thing for D ?  How do I turn on AF assist ?  Can internal flash do 
AF assist or I need to buy the external one ?

What do most of you use, multipoint AF or center point ?  It seems like a bad 
idea to use multipoint as you never know where will AF
focus and DOF on SLR cameras is not forgiving as on PS.

16-45 feels cheap even comparing to my $20 Takumar 135/2.5, but that is ok, I 
am interested in its optical qualities. :)  I was also
surprised how light it is comparing to my 80-200/2.8 Tokina. :)   You could 
defend yourself with Tokina if somebody attacks you.

Is there a color profile for D ?  How do I get accurate colors ?  Should I get 
IT8 target and shoot it ?



Re: MZ-S (a new beginning)

2004-12-07 Thread Jack Davis
Carlos,
Good information. Thanks!

Jack
--- Carlos Royo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Jack Davis escribió:
  Still would appreciate almost any opinion as to
 auto
  focus/motor drive aspects of the MZ-S.
  
 
 Hello, Jack:
 I have had an MZ-S for three years, and although I'm
 not rich enough to 
 own an FA 28-70 2.8, I use a Tokina 28-70 2.6-2.8
 ATX Pro II on this 
 camera, and also an FA* 80-200 2.8
 It focuses really fast with the Tokina 2.6-2.8, and
 not so much with the 
 FA 80-200 2.8, but continuous predictive AF works
 well with the 80-200. 
 I have had excellent results shooting different
 moving objects going at 
 80-100 kph many times.
 As someone has told you some messages ago, focusing
 in low light is 
 really good too, much better than most AF SLRs.
 
 




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Re: another filter question: FA* 300mm F2.8

2004-12-07 Thread Graywolf
You might want to see if a Series-VI filter will fit. As I recall they are 
pretty close to 43mm in diameter, and since they do not have threads they are 
somewhat slimmer than millimetric filters.

graywolf
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Andre,

If you need the UV only, I wouldn't mind breaking a set.

Is it Pentax? If so, then I would be interested, but in an earlier email
you mentioned that this was a normal 43mm SMC (filter) kit; that is, not
designed as a drop-in filter, but rather a front element screw-on. The
problem with this is that normal filters don't tend to fit into the
drop-in housing. As Kenneth pointed out earlier today:
I just tried a normal Tiffen 43mm 1A and it is too thick!
... but let me know if I'm mistaken.
 - Jerome

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Re: PAW: Rossin Pista

2004-12-07 Thread Doug Brewer
frank theriault wrote:
One day, between calls, I looked over at my bike, and something about
it looked particularly fetching (to me, at least).  I took my camera
out of my bag, and this is what it saw:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2938717size=lg
Your comments are always welcome, and I thank those in advance who
look and are compelled to comment.
cheers,
frank
much better than a pic of a pissin Rasta
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Re: PAW: Rossin Pista

2004-12-07 Thread Mark Roberts
Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

frank theriault wrote:
 One day, between calls, I looked over at my bike, and something about
 it looked particularly fetching (to me, at least).  I took my camera
 out of my bag, and this is what it saw:
 
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2938717size=lg
 
 Your comments are always welcome, and I thank those in advance who
 look and are compelled to comment.
 
 cheers,
 frank

much better than a pic of a pissin Rasta

And probably tastier than a slice of raisin pizza.


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Photography and writing
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Re: Photoshop CS Bargain Basement

2004-12-07 Thread Graywolf
First off Bill, everyone does not steal. There are honest people in the world.
Second. How does someone using an unlicensed and unsupported copy of Photoshop 
raise the prices of legitimate copies. I would assume that the folks using the 
free copies would not pay $600 for it in any case. They would just use something 
else.

There are many folks who are software collectors. They have a copy of every 
piece of software they can find. They do not use the software. They do not need 
the software. They do not buy the software. How do they affect Adobe's sales?

Now both these classes of non-buyers probable brag on having the latest version 
of Photoshop and thus influence others to buy the software accually helping 
Adobe's profits.

Now the people who sell bootleg copies to unsuspecting bargain hunters do cost 
Adobe sales and rip off their own customers. They are plain and simple crooks 
and should be dealt with accordingly.

The way I always have seen it, is if I need support I will pay for it by buying 
the software. Although there have been a few companies who both sell at a high 
price and charge extra for support. Most of them have not lasted long.

I have quite a lot of stuff up on my website. If you make a copy of any of it 
for your own use it does not hurt me in the least. Now if you put it in a book 
and sold the book, I probably would take legal action against you (Hey, I want 
my split).

Someone stealing merchandize from the store is taking money; the store had to 
pay for the merchandize. Someone using intellectual property that they would not 
use if they had to pay for it is not taking anything away from the owner. In 
fact it could be argued that they are providing a service. One of the ways you 
become the leader is by having more people use your stuff. The more there who 
are using it, the more there are who will buy it.



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William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: mike wilson
Subject: Re: Photoshop CS Bargain Basement

Let's say you are a member of a large orchestra.  You take years to 
learn your instrument and weeks to learn a particular piece, along 
with your colleagues.  A huge investment of time and effort. It is 
recorded and released on CD.  Why is it $6, not $600?  The answer, of 
course, is the effect of scale.  At a cheap price, you can sell more 
and make the same, or better, profit.  I know there are other factors 
involved in the argument but, for me, software is _grotesquely_ 
overpriced.  It would be really interesting to see if any company had 
the mettle to reduce their price by a couple of orders of magnitude to 
try to corner the market.

I did a seminar a few years back with a very good and successful 
photographer.
On pricing, he said that if you want to drop your price 10%, you will 
have to do 40% more work to make up for the price drop.
My Photoshop instructor mentioned one time that something like 90% of 
the installed Photoshop programs are pirated, with the other 10% being 
legitimate installs.
People will take things for free if they have the opportunity, no matter 
what the cost is. I see it every day, with people shoplifting cheap 
trinkets out of my store.
Pirating is what keeps the cost of software high. If those other 90% 
bought, everyone would pay significantly less. The cost of theft is 
built into the price, and the honest consumers pay for the crooks.

William (no stolen software on my machine) Robb




Re: Photoshop CS Bargain Basement

2004-12-07 Thread Mark Roberts
Graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

How does someone using an unlicensed and unsupported copy of Photoshop 
raise the prices of legitimate copies. I would assume that the folks using the 
free copies would not pay $600 for it in any case. They would just use 
something 
else.

That's something I have thought about. Bootlegged copies of Photoshop
don't represent lost sales for Adobe, they represent lost sales for
Paint Shop Pro (or similar).
Not that that's a good thing, but it's interesting.

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: D questions

2004-12-07 Thread David Zaninovic
Now when I think about it, stuck pixels disappeared after I upgraded the 
firmware on the camera.  I did not try jpg after that, only
raw.  I just tried taking a picture with bulb so I get all white frame and now 
I don't see any dead pixels on camera LCD screen in
either jpg or raw mode.  Is it possible that the new firmware fixed the dead 
pixels ?

 How many stuck pixels am I supposed to have ?  I think I have 4.  I can see 
 them when jpg is generated by the camera but I can't
 find them when I use raw and Photoshop RAW converter, which is strange.  I 
 will use RAW mostly but it is disturbing to have
 something not working correctly.  Is there a software which can remove this 
 stuck pixels by knowing the position as it is always
the
 same ?  Should I return the camera and get another one ?  I will investigate 
 this more closely tonight.



Re: Your best M42 mount lenses.

2004-12-07 Thread Ryan K. Brooks
Jon Glass wrote:
On Dec 7, 2004, at 1:29 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No problem. You're not the only one on this list who uses Pentax 
lenses on a Canon body.

Sorry, but you all sparked my curiosity! Somehow, I haven't heard this 
before... How does this work? Do only M42 lenses work, or do K-mount 
lenses work also? This is so weird, that I just have to hear more... :-)
Only M42s reach infinity and they work great.  I'm now using them on a 
1DsM2 and really enjoy it.

My favs are the 50/1.4 and the 6x7 800/6.7ED- great for birds.
-Ryan


Re: Epson Printer

2004-12-07 Thread Jack Davis
Shel,
Have been using an Epson Stylus Photo 820 (Print Image
Matching) for at least two and a half years.
You said you would like something for QD proofs. The
820 will give you more, but it isn't quick. Haven't
put it on the clock, but would guess that a 2880 dpi
8x10 takes 'prox 20 minutes..minimum. It's possible
that this is considered fast as it relates to other
comparably priced printers. Don't know. 
Printer interface gives you good control and last
minute help for a slow  clean image. 
Am using it with PSE 3.0 and can recommend it without
reservation.

Jack




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Re: Russian pancake portrait lens

2004-12-07 Thread Gianfranco Irlanda
Juan Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 A few days ago I inquired about a 39mm to 42mm adapter because
I
 wanted to try an old Industar Zenit lens in the ist D. Well,
Shel
 loaned me his, so behold this anachronism, the black tape
special
 edition soviet * ist D:
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/1990444/
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/1990443/
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/1990442/
 
 Anyway, as it is, the lens doesn't seem to focus to infinity,
even
 though it should (it is an SLR lens, and there are adapters
for M42
 made to be used with it). It makes for a nice portrait lens
though.

Hi Juan,

If the adapter is the black ring I can see between the lens and
the camera, well... my guess is that is not supposed to work at
infinity. The 39mm to 42mm adapter I know (I own one) is a
simple, double threaded ring that you screw on the lens and then
you mount the combo in the 42mm to K adapter so that it (the 39
to 42 adapter) completely disappears to the view. The 39x1
lenses have a mount to film plane distance of 45,5mm, exactly
like the K mount and the 42x1 lenses, which means that only an
adapter that allows the lens to be mounted in direct contact to
the camera mount will work at infinity (I guess you should know
that, so sorry for the pedantry...)

Ciao,

Gianfranco

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Re: A couple of PESOs

2004-12-07 Thread Christian


William Robb wrote on 12/6/2004, 10:19 PM:

  Warning, this one has both a cat and a dog in it.
 
  http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/peso/LeicaT-Max2.jpg


...dogs and cats living together...

-- 
Christian
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Your best M42 mount lenses.

2004-12-07 Thread Cotty
On 7/12/04, Ryan K. Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:

Only M42s reach infinity and they work great.  I'm now using them on a 
1DsM2 and really enjoy it.

My EOS K mount creations reach infinity no problem at all.

Hey Ryan, I get my mounts back from the fabricators this week - you're in
luck. I have this lrvely K50mm 1.2 that will fit right onto your 20D
and guess what - it's *for sale*

Bwahahahaha




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RE: Your best M42 mount lenses.

2004-12-07 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Did you have to remove rear levers of your PK
lenses to enable infinty usage on the Canon EOS slrs
as a previous post implied?
JCO

-Original Message-
From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 11:13 AM
To: pentax list
Subject: Re: Your best M42 mount lenses.


On 7/12/04, Ryan K. Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:

Only M42s reach infinity and they work great.  I'm now using them on a
1DsM2 and really enjoy it.

My EOS K mount creations reach infinity no problem at all.

Hey Ryan, I get my mounts back from the fabricators this week - you're
in luck. I have this lrvely K50mm 1.2 that will fit right onto your
20D and guess what - it's *for sale*

Bwahahahaha




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Re: OT - Epson Printer

2004-12-07 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi Doug,

Thanks for your comments.  I DL'd the specs and info on the 820 and several
other Epson models last night but haven't looked at them yet.

I sure do understand the Razor and Blades marketing concept ;-))  I'd
probably not even consider using third party inks - certainly not until I
became familiar and comfortable with the entire printing process.

Have you tried printing BW with the 820?

BTW, is paper available in sizes smaller than about 8x10, such as in 5x7
size?

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 12/7/2004 5:32:06 AM
 Subject: Re: OT - Epson Printer

 On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 23:06:04 -0800, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

  I want an inexpensive printer for making QD proof prints and as
  an introduction to inkjet printing.  The Epson C-84 was suggested
  as a possibility.  Price is certainly right.  Any thoughts on 
  puppy or similar inexpensive options?

 I can't comment on this printer specifically, or it's competitors, for
 that matter.  I have an Epson Stylus Photo 820 that I feel does really
 well up to the 8 x 10 prints that I've done on it.

 My comment, though, is that the really cheap printers are built and
 sold on the Razors  Blades plan.  They more or less give you the
 printer and make their profits on the ink.  So, if you're doing a lot
 of volume, the ink costs can eat you up.  I usually get about 30 or so
 8 x 10 prints from a color cartridge on the 820.  The cartridge costs
 about US$ 25, so it's around a buck a pop in ink.

 And since you're doing proof prints, I wouldn't get the third-party ink
 cartridges (or refill kits) unless I had the time and equipment and
 software to do full calibrations for the third-party inks.  I'd also
 recalibrate more often using third-party inks, since I figure Epson
 probably goes to more effort to insure lot-to-lot consistency.

 TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ





Re: OT - Epson Printer

2004-12-07 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Thanks Bill ...

Have thought about the metamerizing issue (that's when the ink takes on a
kind of metallic look, right?) and, at least for the onset of this
exploration, it appears as a minor concern.  Mostly I want to learn the
process as inexpensively as possible and make smallish prints to be used in
greeting cards, CD jackets, and to send to a few select friends and
acquaintances, as well as to see things like grain structure, cropping
choices, and other such things.

Have you tried BW with your Epson?

Shel 



 From: William Robb

 [Original Message]
 From: Shel Belinkoff


  I want an inexpensive printer for making QD proof prints and as an
  introduction to inkjet printing.  The Epson C-84 was suggested as a
  possibility.  Price is certainly right.  Any thoughts on this puppy 
  or similar inexpensive options?  Thanks

 I've been using it's predecessor (the C-80) quite happily for the 
 same thing for a few years now.
 No real issues with it, and it uses permanent pigment inks rather 
 than dye inks.
 The only real issue is that the inks are quite prone to metamerizing.




Re: Epson Printer

2004-12-07 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi Jack ...

Thanks for jumping in.  By QD I don't mean printer speed, just that I want
to make proofs quickly and simply before finalizing the image - checking
crop, grain structure, and so on.  Thanks for the recommendation.  What's
PSE 3.0?

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Have been using an Epson Stylus Photo 820 (Print Image
 Matching) for at least two and a half years.
 You said you would like something for QD proofs. The
 820 will give you more, but it isn't quick. Haven't
 put it on the clock, but would guess that a 2880 dpi
 8x10 takes 'prox 20 minutes..minimum. It's possible
 that this is considered fast as it relates to other
 comparably priced printers. Don't know. 
 Printer interface gives you good control and last
 minute help for a slow  clean image. 
 Am using it with PSE 3.0 and can recommend it without
 reservation.




Re: Darkroom Equipment Aquisition

2004-12-07 Thread Tom C
uhh... I don't get it... 22nd contributor down from the top. Posted back in 
1999.

Tom C.

From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Darkroom Equipment Aquisition
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 08:32:54 +
On 6/12/04, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed:
Nope, not geodesic.  It's a fiberglass observatory with rotating roof and
shutter.  I take it you must have an interest in geodesics?
22nd contributor down from the top. Posted back in 1999.

P.S. The dome size just went from 6 to 10 feet in diameter after I've 
given
it some more thought.  More room for a party.

As my son sayswicked!

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Re: Darkroom Equipment Aquisition

2004-12-07 Thread Cotty
On 7/12/04, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed:

uhh... I don't get it... 22nd contributor down from the top. Posted back in 
1999.

Sorry, a link would have been useful...

www.domegroup.org/domehomepics.html

22nd contributor down from the top. Posted back in 1999


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Re: Photoshop CS Bargain Basement

2004-12-07 Thread Tom C
OK... sending for 3rd time in 2 days (*^*% hotmail).
It's interesting... I just retraced my steps and found out how I got to 
www.markdownsoftware in the first place.  It was from a link on amazon.com 
under the heading Customers interested in Photoshop for Astrophotographers 
may also be interested in:.

There's also another link there for www.buysusa.com which offers Adobe 
software at 90% off.  It says that one receives a full CD version which must 
be activated.  I haven't read all the fine print on this one but it says the 
software was originally purchased under a group license and that buyers are 
ineligible for free Adobe support.

If either of these firms are acting illegally I find it amazing that 
amazon.com would be 'complicit' in encouraging copyright infringement.

I have cancelled my credit and had it reissued just in case.
I have to say I don't buy into pirated software or any other pirated 
intellectual property, especially not 'just because millions of other people 
see nothing wrong with it'.  As a software developer myself, I recognize the 
hard work that goes into writing software, especially quality software.  As 
a photographer I would hate to see a photograph I was selling and could make 
a  profit on, be distributed without permission, depriving me of rightful 
income.

I plan on calling Adobe tomorrow and addressing the issue with them and 
determining if my purchase was legal or not.

Tom C.



Re: Epson Printer

2004-12-07 Thread Maris V. Lidaka Sr.
Photoshop Elements 3.0 - just came out and has gotten excellent reviews.

Maris

Shel Belinkoff wrote:
 Hi Jack ...
 
 Thanks for jumping in.  By QD I don't mean printer speed, just that
 I want to make proofs quickly and simply before finalizing the image
 - checking crop, grain structure, and so on.  Thanks for the
 recommendation.  What's PSE 3.0?




Re: Your best M42 mount lenses.

2004-12-07 Thread Cotty
On 7/12/04, J. C. O'Connell, discombobulated, unleashed:

Did you have to remove rear levers of your PK
lenses to enable infinty usage on the Canon EOS slrs
as a previous post implied?

Yes.

Details:

http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/mods/details.html




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Re: Your best M42 mount lenses.

2004-12-07 Thread Cotty
On 7/12/04, J. C. O'Connell, discombobulated, unleashed:

Did you have to remove rear levers of your PK
lenses to enable infinty usage on the Canon EOS slrs
as a previous post implied?

Not to enable infinity focus, rather to enable the lenses to be attached
- there is physically no room for the lever inside the throat of the EOS
body. The lenses are used in stop-down mode in both manual and AP.




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RE: *istDS Review on photo.shopping.com

2004-12-07 Thread Jens Bladt
Compared to all the fuzz about AE back in the eighties and nineties, when AE
was still developed intensively, I guess the manual exposure control
(presing the green button/DOF button) would have been af a big issue.

I remeber adds that in fact said, that if a white car drives through your
viewfinder, while shooting, the camera will stop down further (is this
really an advantage??) in fractions of a second. This is how accurate AE has
become. That is OK, of course, but in my experience stopping down manually
ios not a big issue as long as I remember to do just that, just before I
release the shutter. Any exposure should be evaluated by the photographer
anyway - in order to assess back lit scenery, dark background, very bright
sky etc. regardless of matrix metering etc.

It would of course have been even better if the *ist D/DS worked normally
in Av mode, utilizing an aperture simulater, which was not put in the recent
Pentax cameras. But make no mistakes, K and M lenses can very well still be
used with very fine results. For casual snap shooting, I do prefere using an
A or FA lens, of course.

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 6. december 2004 02:05
Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Emne: Re: *istDS Review on photo.shopping.com


I don't get it, but I'll accept what you say without reservation since I'm
as ignorant as a carrot about such things.

Shel


 [Original Message]
 From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 On 5 Dec 2004 at 16:13, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

  I would think that only works for static subjects ...

 Best but not necessary, as long as the blurred scene contains similar
 gradations and is shot at the same exposure settings it's good enough to
serve
 to build a noise profile.






RE: Epson Printer

2004-12-07 Thread Jens Bladt
Photoshop Elements 3.0 even has database functions ) and a search engine
(tags and keywords).

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Maris V. Lidaka Sr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 7. december 2004 17:48
Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Emne: Re: Epson Printer


Photoshop Elements 3.0 - just came out and has gotten excellent reviews.

Maris

Shel Belinkoff wrote:
 Hi Jack ...

 Thanks for jumping in.  By QD I don't mean printer speed, just that
 I want to make proofs quickly and simply before finalizing the image
 - checking crop, grain structure, and so on.  Thanks for the
 recommendation.  What's PSE 3.0?






Re: Epson Printer

2004-12-07 Thread Shel Belinkoff
BTW, Jack, did you find the 820 easy to set up and to start printing with? 
Any problems with it either in set up or over the years?

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Have been using an Epson Stylus Photo 820 (Print Image
 Matching) for at least two and a half years.




Re: OT - Epson Printer

2004-12-07 Thread Shel Belinkoff
BTW, Doug, did you find the 820 easy to set up and to start printing with?
Any problems with it either in set up or over the years?

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: Doug Franklin 

 I have an Epson Stylus Photo 820 that I feel does really
 well up to the 8 x 10 prints that I've done on it.




Re: OT - Epson Printer

2004-12-07 Thread Maris V. Lidaka Sr.
The metallic look thing is called Bronzing, which is a problem on many
occasions.  Metamerism is when a print's colors look different under
different lighting conditions - daylight v. tungsten for example.

B  W printing is problematic - you can set the printer driver to print
black ink only, and there are photographers for whom this method works
successfully.  If you leave the driver using all 4 inks, you will often get
a color cast.

There was a program released called QuadToneRIP for printing in B  W, and a
Windows GUI interface for it called QTRgui recently for printing in B  W.

http://www.sbillard.org/Shareware/QTRgui.htm

Free trial - $50 if you want to buy ti.  I've tried it several times and I
think it's excellent.  You'll find much more info on it by joining the Yahoo
Digital BW the Print mailing list.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/

Maris

Shel Belinkoff wrote:
 Thanks Bill ...

 Have thought about the metamerizing issue (that's when the ink takes
 on a kind of metallic look, right?) and, at least for the onset of
 this exploration, it appears as a minor concern.  Mostly I want to
 learn the process as inexpensively as possible and make smallish
 prints to be used in greeting cards, CD jackets, and to send to a few
 select friends and acquaintances, as well as to see things like grain
 structure, cropping choices, and other such things.

 Have you tried BW with your Epson?




Re: OT - Epson Printer

2004-12-07 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Shel,

My personal experience with Epson is that the cheap ones are really junk - head
clog problems.  The more expensive ones are great.  Personally for a
cheapy, I would go with HP or Canon.

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce


Monday, December 6, 2004, 11:06:04 PM, you wrote:

SB Hi gang,

SB I want an inexpensive printer for making QD proof prints and as an
SB introduction to inkjet printing.  The Epson C-84 was suggested as a
SB possibility.  Price is certainly right.  Any thoughts on this puppy or
SB similar inexpensive options?  Thanks


SB Shel 






Hey you b and w darkroom guys - help!

2004-12-07 Thread Ann Sanfedele
I'm about to give a woman lessons in film
developing --
she acquired Ilford Universal developer - she shot
tri-x
I'm a Microdol 1:3 gal  (ot chemicals in stock
chez moi now)

(nevermind why we aren't using that for the lesson
- long story)

Anyway, anyone have preferences for developing
times and dilutions for
Tri-X ?  Using the Ilford Universal?

Would prefer personal experience as opposed to a
link on the web.

Thanks much!
annsan






Re: Epson Printer

2004-12-07 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Slapping forehead

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: Maris V. Lidaka Sr. 

 Photoshop Elements 3.0 - just came out and has gotten excellent reviews.

 Maris

 Shel Belinkoff wrote:

  
What's PSE 3.0?





Re: OT - Epson Printer

2004-12-07 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Thanks so very much.  I've saved your message and will look into these
sources.

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: Maris V. Lidaka Sr. 

 The metallic look thing is called Bronzing, which is a problem on many
 occasions.  Metamerism is when a print's colors look different under
 different lighting conditions - daylight v. tungsten for example.

 B  W printing is problematic - you can set the printer driver to print
 black ink only, and there are photographers for whom this method works
 successfully.  If you leave the driver using all 4 inks, you will often
get
 a color cast.

 There was a program released called QuadToneRIP for printing in B  W,
and a
 Windows GUI interface for it called QTRgui recently for printing in B  W.

 http://www.sbillard.org/Shareware/QTRgui.htm

 Free trial - $50 if you want to buy ti.  I've tried it several times and I
 think it's excellent.  You'll find much more info on it by joining the
Yahoo
 Digital BW the Print mailing list.

 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/




Re: OT - Epson Printer

2004-12-07 Thread pnstenquist
I've found that the most efficient ways to print 5x7s is to print them two at a 
time on 8 1/2 x 11 paper. I usually trim the borders of my prints anyway, so 
cutting them apart is a simple matter.
Paul


 Hi Doug,
 
 Thanks for your comments.  I DL'd the specs and info on the 820 and several
 other Epson models last night but haven't looked at them yet.
 
 I sure do understand the Razor and Blades marketing concept ;-))  I'd
 probably not even consider using third party inks - certainly not until I
 became familiar and comfortable with the entire printing process.
 
 Have you tried printing BW with the 820?
 
 BTW, is paper available in sizes smaller than about 8x10, such as in 5x7
 size?
 
 Shel 
 
 
  [Original Message]
  From: Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: 12/7/2004 5:32:06 AM
  Subject: Re: OT - Epson Printer
 
  On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 23:06:04 -0800, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
 
   I want an inexpensive printer for making QD proof prints and as
   an introduction to inkjet printing.  The Epson C-84 was suggested
   as a possibility.  Price is certainly right.  Any thoughts on 
   puppy or similar inexpensive options?
 
  I can't comment on this printer specifically, or it's competitors, for
  that matter.  I have an Epson Stylus Photo 820 that I feel does really
  well up to the 8 x 10 prints that I've done on it.
 
  My comment, though, is that the really cheap printers are built and
  sold on the Razors  Blades plan.  They more or less give you the
  printer and make their profits on the ink.  So, if you're doing a lot
  of volume, the ink costs can eat you up.  I usually get about 30 or so
  8 x 10 prints from a color cartridge on the 820.  The cartridge costs
  about US$ 25, so it's around a buck a pop in ink.
 
  And since you're doing proof prints, I wouldn't get the third-party ink
  cartridges (or refill kits) unless I had the time and equipment and
  software to do full calibrations for the third-party inks.  I'd also
  recalibrate more often using third-party inks, since I figure Epson
  probably goes to more effort to insure lot-to-lot consistency.
 
  TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
 
 
 



Re: OT - Epson Printer

2004-12-07 Thread Maris V. Lidaka Sr.
Yes, but only some brands.

Alternately consider a program called Qimage

http://www.ddisoftware.com/qimage

It will resize and print image in the size of your choice - thumbnails to
13 x 19 or more - on the paper of your choice, which you can then cut as
needed.

Maris

Shel Belinkoff wrote:

 BTW, is paper available in sizes smaller than about 8x10, such as in
 5x7 size?




Re: Epson Printer

2004-12-07 Thread Jack Davis
Shel,
Photoshop Elements 3.0.
You're welcome.

Jack
--- Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Jack ...
 
 Thanks for jumping in.  By QD I don't mean printer
 speed, just that I want
 to make proofs quickly and simply before finalizing
 the image - checking
 crop, grain structure, and so on.  Thanks for the
 recommendation.  What's
 PSE 3.0?
 
 Shel 
 
 
  [Original Message]
  From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Have been using an Epson Stylus Photo 820 (Print
 Image
  Matching) for at least two and a half years.
  You said you would like something for QD proofs.
 The
  820 will give you more, but it isn't quick.
 Haven't
  put it on the clock, but would guess that a 2880
 dpi
  8x10 takes 'prox 20 minutes..minimum. It's
 possible
  that this is considered fast as it relates to
 other
  comparably priced printers. Don't know. 
  Printer interface gives you good control and last
  minute help for a slow  clean image. 
  Am using it with PSE 3.0 and can recommend it
 without
  reservation.
 
 
 




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Re: The one that got away

2004-12-07 Thread Tim Sherburne

Of course not! Everyone knows that pros only use vests! :)

t

On 12/7/04 6:09, Cotty wrote:

 Of course. I knew there was a way of telling. Is that bag that comes with
 it a pro bag?



Re: Hey you b and w darkroom guys - help!

2004-12-07 Thread brooksdj
Ann
This may not be what your looking for but here is Paul Stenquist's answer to my 
D76
question near the 
end of October.
It may be of help.
Also i find www.digitaltruth.com a big help. Loads of spec's.
Dave

Tri-X pro is 320, regular tri-x is 400. I rate both at 200 and develop 
in D-76 1:1. I don't remember the time off hand but it's reduced by 
about 20% from what Kodak recommends for Tri-X 400. I use the same 
developer for T-Max. It does an excellent job on both. For T--Max 400, 
I rate it at 200 and develop it for 11 minutes in D-76 1:1 at 68 
degrees F.
Paul
On Oct 24, 2004, at 7:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 I'm about to give a woman lessons in film
 developing --
 she acquired Ilford Universal developer - she shot
 tri-x
 I'm a Microdol 1:3 gal  (ot chemicals in stock
 chez moi now)
 
 (nevermind why we aren't using that for the lesson
 - long story)
 
 Anyway, anyone have preferences for developing
 times and dilutions for
 Tri-X ?  Using the Ilford Universal?
 
 Would prefer personal experience as opposed to a
 link on the web.
 
 Thanks much!
 annsan
 
 
 
 






Re: D questions

2004-12-07 Thread Joseph Tainter
Hi, David. Here's what I can answer.
Low-light af is poor with all lenses, even fast primes. It is a weakness 
of the camera.

Center-point autofocus gives you better control over the point of focus. 
I consider multi-point to be primarily a marketing gimmick, and for 
inexperienced users.

The DA 16-45 is sturdy enough, and is superb optically -- one of 
Pentax's best zooms ever. Shoot with it and you will learn to overlook 
its physical design.

Joe


Re: D questions

2004-12-07 Thread Joseph Tainter
David, shoot in raw, not jpeg. Raw gives you more control for 
post-camera processing (like setting white balance after the fact), and 
the images lose no information.

Joe


Re: D questions

2004-12-07 Thread Pentxuser
Joe I have to disagree with you here. Too many photographers rely on the 
center-point autofocus and the end result is bad compositon with the subject 
dead 
centre in the frame. Yes, you can lock the focus in and move the camera to put 
the subject in a better position in the frame but that's not always possible, 
especially if you have the camera on follow focus and you are shooting a 
moving subject. I, for one, would prefer multi-point focus. 
Thanks Vic

Joe Wrote: Center-point autofocus gives you better control over the point of 
focus. 
I consider multi-point to be primarily a marketing gimmick, and for 
inexperienced users.



Re: Hey you b and w darkroom guys - help!

2004-12-07 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
BW has gone through so many stylistic changes in the past
few years, it's amazing.  Many people I read on NGs shoot an
extra 1/3 to 1/2 stop of extra saturation and then develop
normally.  (Personally, I shoot most bw by the book but add
about 5% extra time to the processing to bring out the
highlight detail a bit more.)

Isn't Ilford Universal their ID-11, very similar to or the same as D-76?  If 
so, that class of developer has an interesting characteristic that you might 
make good use of.  Let it have a day of a little air exposure and turn a little 
dark.  This will keep contrast under control and give some smoother tones to 
Tri-X.

But apart from that experiment, just develop normally for a good neg.  Tri-X is 
very forgiving of a few seconds either way.

Sincerely,

C. Brendemuehl


-- Original Message --
Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2004 12:03:11 -0500
From: Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I'm about to give a woman lessons in film
developing --
she acquired Ilford Universal developer - she shot
tri-x
I'm a Microdol 1:3 gal  (ot chemicals in stock
chez moi now)

(nevermind why we aren't using that for the lesson
- long story)

Anyway, anyone have preferences for developing
times and dilutions for
Tri-X ?  Using the Ilford Universal?

Would prefer personal experience as opposed to a
link on the web.

Thanks much!
annsan

 





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Re: Your best M42 mount lenses.

2004-12-07 Thread Ryan K. Brooks
Cotty wrote:
On 7/12/04, Ryan K. Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:
 

Only M42s reach infinity and they work great.  I'm now using them on a 
1DsM2 and really enjoy it.
   

My EOS K mount creations reach infinity no problem at all.
 

This is with your mod to the coupler, or no?
-R


Re: Rossin Pista

2004-12-07 Thread Graywolf
Ah!
Now we know why the fall awhile back. The bike was rejecting the transplant.
graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
Idiot Proof == Expert Proof
---
frank theriault wrote:
 About
the only non-Italian things on the bike are Hutchison (French) tires,
and cheapo generic seatpost, seat and pedals, likely Japanese of some
sort.



Re: The one that got away

2004-12-07 Thread Graywolf
Amateur camera = low priced, cheap junk.
Pro camera = high priced, cheap junk in black finish.
GRIN!
graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
Idiot Proof == Expert Proof
---

Cotty wrote:
On 7/12/04, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:

Cotty, the black one is the professional version.

Of course. I knew there was a way of telling. Is that bag that comes with
it a pro bag?

Cheers,
  Cotty
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Re: Your best M42 mount lenses.

2004-12-07 Thread Graywolf
Let me clarify Cotty's position here. He has had custom K to EOS mounts made up 
from his design. They apparently work quite well. What do you have now Cott, 3-4 
of them?

He did post a link to a photo, but it may have gotten lost in the shuffle.
Despite his one-liners here, Cotty is quite a decent person though those who 
have not actually met him may not believe that (g).

graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
Idiot Proof == Expert Proof
---

Cotty wrote:
On 7/12/04, Gateway, discombobulated, unleashed:

Hang on a second, I lost the sense in the thread. Can I get a K mount ot
work on my Canon 20D?

I don't know, but I can.


Cheers,
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Re: Russian pancake portrait lens

2004-12-07 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi!

JB A few days ago I inquired about a 39mm to 42mm adapter because I
JB wanted to try an old Industar Zenit lens in the ist D. Well, Shel
JB loaned me his, so behold this anachronism, the black tape special
JB edition soviet * ist D:

JB http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/1990444/
JB http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/1990443/
JB http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/1990442/

JB As seen in the first image, the serial number of the Industar starts
JB in 59, which means 1959. Has anyone mounted older lenses on their
JB digital cameras?

JB Anyway, as it is, the lens doesn't seem to focus to infinity, even
JB though it should (it is an SLR lens, and there are adapters for M42
JB made to be used with it). It makes for a nice portrait lens though.

I have this lens in black color and M42 mount. Mine focuses just fine.
It is one fascinating lens, though I admit I did not shoot with it
much having M 50/1.4 and FA 50/1.7... May be it is my fault...

I am reconsidering...


Boris
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Your best M42 mount lenses.

2004-12-07 Thread Cotty
On 7/12/04, Ryan K. Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:

This is with your mod to the coupler, or no?

You'll see.




Cheers,
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Re: Your best M42 mount lenses.

2004-12-07 Thread Cotty
On 7/12/04, Graywolf, discombobulated, unleashed:

Let me clarify Cotty's position here. He has had custom K to EOS mounts
made up 
from his design. They apparently work quite well. What do you have now
Cott, 3-4 
of them?

Yeah, they are not adapters, they are mounts. That is, once the mount is
on the lens, it stays there. The lens can be engineered back to K mount
if necessary. Thanks Graywolf.




Cheers,
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Re: D questions

2004-12-07 Thread Shel Belinkoff
So, here's a question about these multipoint autofocus systems. How does
one change the focus point?  I'd imagine that it's a time consuming
operation, pushing buttons or turning wheels or some such
electro-mechanical modal interface LOL.  Seems then that for scenes where
there's any quickness of action required on the part of the photographer,
adjusting autofocus preferences might be a hindrance, and that using just
one focus point and slightly shifting the camera may be a faster
alternative.  But, if one does that, as noted by Vic, how does that effect
the point of focus?  Is it changed because the camera has moved?  And, can
one focus with autofocus on an area where there's no contrast or even a
subject?  For example, if one wanted to use a hyperfocal distance and, at
that point there's nothing to focus on?  Or if one wanted to focus on a
mono-colored wall for instance?  Which brings up another question: if newer
lenses have no DOF scale (I understand that some don't), how can one use
the hyperfocal focusing technique?

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Joe I have to disagree with you here. Too many photographers rely on the 
 center-point autofocus and the end result is bad compositon with the
subject dead 
 centre in the frame. Yes, you can lock the focus in and move the camera
to put 
 the subject in a better position in the frame but that's not always
possible, 
 especially if you have the camera on follow focus and you are shooting a 
 moving subject. I, for one, would prefer multi-point focus. 
 Thanks Vic


 Joe Wrote: 

 Center-point autofocus gives you better control over the point of 
 focus. I consider multi-point to be primarily a marketing gimmick, 
 and for  inexperienced users.




Re: D questions

2004-12-07 Thread Joseph Tainter
Joe I have to disagree with you here. Too many photographers rely on the 
 center-point autofocus and the end result is bad compositon with the 
subject dead centre in the frame. Yes, you can lock the focus in and 
move the camera to put the subject in a better position in the frame but 
that's not always possible, especially if you have the camera on follow 
focus and you are shooting a moving subject. I, for one, would prefer 
multi-point focus.

--
Vic, I suspect that too many photographers rely on multi-point 
autofocus, which manufacturers want them to. That's why it is the 
default on so many cameras.

Please note that I referred to inexperienced photographers. Experienced 
ones will of course focus and recompose, or use multi-point if that 
helps to follow a moving subject.

Joe



Re: Russian pancake portrait lens

2004-12-07 Thread Juan Buhler
Gianfranco wrote:

 If the adapter is the black ring I can see between the lens and
 the camera, well... my guess is that is not supposed to work at
 infinity. The 39mm to 42mm adapter I know (I own one) is a
 simple, double threaded ring that you screw on the lens and then
 you mount the combo in the 42mm to K adapter so that it (the 39
 to 42 adapter) completely disappears to the view.


That's right. This is what I got on ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=3856769310

It looks like what you describe, I'm sure the lens will focus to
infinity with it.

j


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Epson 400 and ImagePrint 6.0 Report

2004-12-07 Thread Larry Hodgson
Hello all,

Recently I installed my new Epson 4000. I use it to print Fine Art
Landscapes both in color and BW.  Printing BW from Photoshop left a lot to
be desired as color shifts were always present, most of the time leaving a
green cast which is ugly in a BW print. Color was great, but the BW was
pure crap. Soo I invested in ImagePrint which all reports said would
produce neutral prints in BW. Well I'm happy to report that this is true. I
have made some of the most amazing BW prints directly from color RGB files
simply by selecting a BW profile for the corresponding paper. The prints
come out as if they were silver prints using BW paper from a wet darkroom.
It is simply amazing. Color prints are also better with much better
highlight and shadow detail. This is one fine piece of software. Now I know
that few people have the resources to spend on this kind of hardware and
software, but for those who are considering high end printing, this is a
MUST.

As a side note, I have a show featuring my landscape work scheduled for late
March of next year. I will have about 25-35 prints on exhibit at a local
gallery in Prescott. The first day will feature and opening with
refreshments and catering of some fine food. Will also have a harpist to
provide a nice atmosphere of music. Anyone is invited to attend who may be
close enough. Will provide details in February.

Larry from Prescott




Re: D questions

2004-12-07 Thread Christian


Joseph Tainter wrote on 12/7/2004, 1:13 PM:
 
  Vic, I suspect that too many photographers rely on multi-point
  autofocus, which manufacturers want them to. That's why it is the
  default on so many cameras.
 
  Please note that I referred to inexperienced photographers. Experienced
  ones will of course focus and recompose, or use multi-point if that
  helps to follow a moving subject.

Or use the old-fashioned, manual focus technique! :-)  The D's 
viewfinder and screen aren't bad for focusing.

-- 
Christian
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: Your best M42 mount lenses.

2004-12-07 Thread Gateway
So Cotty, once the mount is on you have AV or manual on your Canon digital
camera along with manual focus? I looked into this a little while ago and
couldn't find any commercially available adapters. I too found the idea of a
f1.2 lens appealing considering the price of the Canon f1.0 offering.

You mentioned that you prefer manual focussing in many respects, I find on
the 20D the focus tends to be a lot more accurate (and satisfying in a
strange way!!!) when done manually.

Can you share with us where you ge these things made and how much. I've
bookmarked your link but havne't had time to read through it yet.

Gareth


-Original Message-
From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 12:59 PM
To: pentax list
Subject: Re: Your best M42 mount lenses.


On 7/12/04, Graywolf, discombobulated, unleashed:

Let me clarify Cotty's position here. He has had custom K to EOS mounts
made up
from his design. They apparently work quite well. What do you have now
Cott, 3-4
of them?

Yeah, they are not adapters, they are mounts. That is, once the mount is
on the lens, it stays there. The lens can be engineered back to K mount
if necessary. Thanks Graywolf.




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Re: Hey you b and w darkroom guys - help!

2004-12-07 Thread Ann Sanfedele
thanks, Colin
This is kinda what I wanted to know... I never liked D-76 for my own stuff and 
would
have considered less contrast as the developer aged to be a negative (no pun) 
rather than
a positive (I printed almost nothing lower than 3 in my dark room days)

I just never used Universal for anything but prints.
I love Microdol-x 1:3 for Tri-x but the woman I'm teaching got talked out of
getting it by a storekeep when she told him she thought I had told here to get 
it for prints
(for one thing) He didn't have any, so he didn't want to sim,ply correct her - 
and she didn't
think to call me on cell phone while she was in the store..
i'm trekking out to Long Island tomorrow to give her private lessons.

Hurray for craigslist! I need the gig!

ann




Collin Brendemuehl wrote:

 BW has gone through so many stylistic changes in the past
 few years, it's amazing.  Many people I read on NGs shoot an
 extra 1/3 to 1/2 stop of extra saturation and then develop
 normally.  (Personally, I shoot most bw by the book but add
 about 5% extra time to the processing to bring out the
 highlight detail a bit more.)

 Isn't Ilford Universal their ID-11, very similar to or the same as D-76?  If 
 so, that class of developer has an interesting characteristic that you might 
 make good use of.  Let it have a day of a little air exposure and turn a 
 little dark.  This will keep contrast under control and give some smoother 
 tones to Tri-X.

 But apart from that experiment, just develop normally for a good neg.  Tri-X 
 is very forgiving of a few seconds either way.

 Sincerely,

 C. Brendemuehl

 -- Original Message --
 Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2004 12:03:11 -0500
 From: Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
 
 I'm about to give a woman lessons in film
 developing --
 she acquired Ilford Universal developer - she shot
 tri-x
 I'm a Microdol 1:3 gal  (ot chemicals in stock
 chez moi now)
 
 (nevermind why we aren't using that for the lesson
 - long story)
 
 Anyway, anyone have preferences for developing
 times and dilutions for
 Tri-X ?  Using the Ilford Universal?
 
 Would prefer personal experience as opposed to a
 link on the web.
 
 Thanks much!
 annsan
 


 
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Re: Hey you b and w darkroom guys - help!

2004-12-07 Thread Ann Sanfedele
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ann
 This may not be what your looking for but here is Paul Stenquist's answer to 
 my D76
 question near the
 end of October.
 It may be of help.
 Also i find www.digitaltruth.com a big help. Loads of spec's.
 Dave

ann replies:
I used to expose Tri-x at 320 for using Microdol X 1:3...
Thanks for the clip from Paul - useful info if, as COlin pointed out
the Ilford Universal is (same as?) close to D-76.

The other reason I had favored the Microdol x 1:3 was the solution
temperature was easier to maintain at 75 degrees F  than 68 in
the perpetually overheated NY apartments.

ciao, and thanks
ann



 Tri-X pro is 320, regular tri-x is 400. I rate both at 200 and develop
 in D-76 1:1. I don't remember the time off hand but it's reduced by
 about 20% from what Kodak recommends for Tri-X 400. I use the same
 developer for T-Max. It does an excellent job on both. For T--Max 400,
 I rate it at 200 and develop it for 11 minutes in D-76 1:1 at 68
 degrees F.
 Paul
 On Oct 24, 2004, at 7:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I'm about to give a woman lessons in film
  developing --
  she acquired Ilford Universal developer - she shot
  tri-x
  I'm a Microdol 1:3 gal  (ot chemicals in stock
  chez moi now)
 
  (nevermind why we aren't using that for the lesson
  - long story)
 
  Anyway, anyone have preferences for developing
  times and dilutions for
  Tri-X ?  Using the Ilford Universal?
 
  Would prefer personal experience as opposed to a
  link on the web.
 
  Thanks much!
  annsan
 
 
 
 





Re: D questions

2004-12-07 Thread David Zaninovic
I plan to shoot in raw, I just need to buy 2gb memory card for that. :)
Anybody knows which card speed is needed for D ?  40X ?

- Original Message - 
From: Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pdml [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 12:25 PM
Subject: Re: D questions


 David, shoot in raw, not jpeg. Raw gives you more control for 
 post-camera processing (like setting white balance after the fact), and 
 the images lose no information.
 
 Joe
 



Re: D questions

2004-12-07 Thread David Zaninovic
 Low-light af is poor with all lenses, even fast primes. It is a weakness
 of the camera.

Simple AF assist lamp would improve that drastically.  I heard somewhere that D 
can assist its focusing using flash, where do I
configure that ?  Does internal flash support this ?



RE: FA 20 f2.8

2004-12-07 Thread Nick Clark
Was this test done on the *istD? If so that might explain why you didn't see 
the soft corners.

Nick

-Original Message-
From: jtainter[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
I ordered this lens recently after seeing some positive comments on 
dpreview, backed up by a link to images, including one showing very good 
sharpness at f2.8. After ordering it I saw some comments here indicating that 
it is soft in the corners at f2.8. This was followed by Will Robb commenting 
that it is probably as good in the corners as anyone else's 20 mm. I would use 
this at f2.8 a lot. So I was concerned whether I should send it back.

I have access to a Sigma EX DG 20 f1.8, which I have been carrying when I 
travel. This weekend I tested both 20s against a mud brick wall (lots of 
detail) at several apertures, including f2.8. Today I processed the f2.8 images 
and looked at them onscreen at 100% (actual pixels) enlargement.

At f2.8 the Pentax lens blows away the Sigma. It is noticeably sharper in 
the center, at the edges, and at the corners. And this is with the Pentax lens 
wide open while the Sigma is stopped down 1.3 stops. The FA 20 is a keeper and 
goes into my kit. The Sigma goes back to where I borrowed it.




Re: MZ-S (a new beginning)

2004-12-07 Thread Nick Clark
I haven't really gotten on very well with the BG-10 grip. I find the vertical 
shutter release button is in the wrong place for my fingers; it needs to be at 
the end of the grip, unless I'm holding it wrong. It's more comfortable using 
the body release even with the grip attached.

The IR is useful, but that should have been built into the body in the first 
place. 

As I'm often carrying the MZ-S with the *istD kit the extra bulk and weight of 
the grip tends to stay at home. 

Incidentally, does anyone know if NiMh batteries are OK in the grip? I t only 
mentions alkaline and lithium in the manual.

Nick
-Original Message-
From: Pat White[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 07/12/04 03:13:01
 
Go for it! The MZ-S is a great camera, and even better with the BG-10 grip. 
Not so sure about the 360 flash, since the head doesn't swivel. I've been 
using a Metz 40MZ-3 flash with my MZ-S, with good success.

  



Re: D questions

2004-12-07 Thread John Francis
Shel Belinkoff mused:
 
 So, here's a question about these multipoint autofocus systems. How does
 one change the focus point?  I'd imagine that it's a time consuming
 operation, pushing buttons or turning wheels or some such
 electro-mechanical modal interface LOL.

Depends on the camera.  In the MZ-S it just about requires two hands,
as you have to push up a spring-loaded slider and turn a control wheel.
On the *ist-D, in normal shooting mode, the 4-way controller is what
you use to change focus-point selection; a normal right-eyed person
can probably do it almost instantaneously with the camera to the eye.

 Seems then that for scenes where
 there's any quickness of action required on the part of the photographer,
 adjusting autofocus preferences might be a hindrance, and that using just
 one focus point and slightly shifting the camera may be a faster
 alternative.

That's how I use my camera when I'm shooting motorsports.

But, if one does that, as noted by Vic, how does that effect
 the point of focus?  Is it changed because the camera has moved?

That depends on whether you're using AF-S (focus once when you first half-
depress the shutter) or AF-C (continually update focus while the shutter
is half depressed).

And, can
 one focus with autofocus on an area where there's no contrast or even a
 subject?

No.  You need contrast.  In fact, you even need the right sort of contrast.
Some AF sensors work well with horizontal lines, but not with verticals.
Some work the other way.  And some (referred to as cross sensors) are
basically one of each kind looking at the same part of the image.  (IIRC,
the *ist-D has 9 cross sensors, plus two verticals, one at each edge)



Re: Epson 400 and ImagePrint 6.0 Report

2004-12-07 Thread Cotty
On 7/12/04, Larry Hodgson, discombobulated, unleashed:

Recently I installed my new Epson 4000. I use it to print Fine Art
Landscapes both in color and BW.  Printing BW from Photoshop left a lot to
be desired as color shifts were always present, most of the time leaving a
green cast which is ugly in a BW print. Color was great, but the BW was
pure crap. Soo I invested in ImagePrint which all reports said would
produce neutral prints in BW. Well I'm happy to report that this is true. I
have made some of the most amazing BW prints directly from color RGB files
simply by selecting a BW profile for the corresponding paper. The prints
come out as if they were silver prints using BW paper from a wet darkroom.
It is simply amazing. Color prints are also better with much better
highlight and shadow detail. This is one fine piece of software. Now I know
that few people have the resources to spend on this kind of hardware and
software, but for those who are considering high end printing, this is a
MUST.

Larry, have you got a URL where I can see the Image print software? Ta.




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: Your best M42 mount lenses.

2004-12-07 Thread Cotty
On 7/12/04, Gateway, discombobulated, unleashed:

Can you share with us where you ge these things made and how much. I've
bookmarked your link but havne't had time to read through it yet.

I designed it and had it made by this company:

http://www.srbfilm.co.uk/

The components used are a simple Canon AF-to-M42 brass adapter, drilled
out to EOS spec for mounting on the lens, and a small round plate
fabricated from scratch to maintain the register distance. Longer
mounting screws are also needed. All details on that web page I gave you.

HTH




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Re: Your best M42 mount lenses.

2004-12-07 Thread Cotty
On 7/12/04, Gateway, discombobulated, unleashed:

Can you share with us where you ge these things made and how much.

The cost of each mount (modified Canon AF / M42 adapter + fabricated
spacer ring) about 65 GBP plus cost of Canon AF / M42 adapter, about 20 USD.

SRB have the jig and specs, just supply them with a cheap Canon AF / M42
mount from eBay and they will supply - be warned, they are not fast, but
good quality work.




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Re: *istDS Review on photo.shopping.com

2004-12-07 Thread John Francis
Jens Bladt mused:
 
 Compared to all the fuzz about AE back in the eighties and nineties, when AE
 was still developed intensively, I guess the manual exposure control
 (presing the green button/DOF button) would have been af a big issue.
 
 I remeber adds that in fact said, that if a white car drives through your
 viewfinder, while shooting, the camera will stop down further (is this
 really an advantage??) in fractions of a second. This is how accurate AE has
 become. That is OK, of course, but in my experience stopping down manually
 ios not a big issue as long as I remember to do just that, just before I
 release the shutter. Any exposure should be evaluated by the photographer
 anyway - in order to assess back lit scenery, dark background, very bright
 sky etc. regardless of matrix metering etc.

Fine, in theory.  Now try that when you're tracking a group of cars cresting
a hill, swooping down towards you into a somewhat shaded area, and getting
back into full sunlight as they drive away, and you want to grab the shot
at the best moment (which depends on what the cars are doing).  If I'm
doing anything manually it would be changing the zoom to follow the cars.

If I know just where I'll be taking the shot I'll turn off AE, anyway; you
don't *want* exposure to change depending on whether your primary subject
is a black car or a white car.  If I have to use AE, though, I'll use the
full multi-segment metering (not matrix metering - that's copyrighted);
center-weighted metering performs significantly worse in this scenario.




Re: PESO: Three lucky shots

2004-12-07 Thread Juan Buhler
Thanks guys for the comments.

The BW conversion was my quick channel mixer thing in Photoshop. For
printing, I'll go back to the raw files and do a careful conversion on
a per-image basis.

Thanks again,

j


On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 17:37:47 -0800 (PST), Gianfranco Irlanda
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Juan Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  Today I went to the area around Union Square here in San
 Francisco for
  some shooting. I don't know if it was lack of inspiration or
 what, but
  I only pressed the shutter three times.
 
  Surprisingly, all three images are at least not embarassing:
 
  http://www.jbuhler.com/blog/archives/0141.html
 
  Pentax ist D, K30/2.8, Photoshop channel mixer.
 
 Hi Juan,
 
 They are all very good shots (as usual from you...), but the
 first two seem to be more part of a series and are both great
 pictures.
 I really like the first one, it seems to show the lonelyness of
 the man overwhelmed by the crowd.
 The BW look of the shots is extremely pleasing. Well done!
 
 Ciao,
 
 Gianfranco
 
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Re: another filter question: FA* 300mm F2.8

2004-12-07 Thread Andre Langevin
Andre,
 If you need the UV only, I wouldn't mind breaking a set.
Is it Pentax? If so, then I would be interested, but in an earlier email
you mentioned that this was a normal 43mm SMC (filter) kit; that is, not
designed as a drop-in filter, but rather a front element screw-on. The
problem with this is that normal filters don't tend to fit into the
drop-in housing. As Kenneth pointed out earlier today:
I just tried a normal Tiffen 43mm 1A and it is too thick!
... but let me know if I'm mistaken.
 - Jerome
These 43mm Pentax SMC filters can be screwed but I think they also 
can be just inserted in the lens compartment.  Tiffen filters are 
kind of thick, the Pentax ones may have about 1 or 2 mm less.

Kenneth, are the BW filters useless because they are too thick?  If 
so, the Pentax is certainly thinner than a BW but not by a large 
margin.  My guess is that they fit, especially because this 43mm kit 
was only made for 3 lenses, the FA 300/2.8, the FA 600 and the FA 
250-??? zoom.  I could check tonight how thick they are.

Andre


Re: Photoshop CS Bargain Basement

2004-12-07 Thread Tom C
Graywolf and Mark Roberts wrote:
Graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How does someone using an unlicensed and unsupported copy of Photoshop
raise the prices of legitimate copies. I would assume that the folks 
using the
free copies would not pay $600 for it in any case. They would just use 
something
else.

That's something I have thought about. Bootlegged copies of Photoshop
don't represent lost sales for Adobe, they represent lost sales for
Paint Shop Pro (or similar).
Not that that's a good thing, but it's interesting.
--
Mark Roberts
I'm not sure illegal use raises the price of legitimate copies... but 
capitalism being what it is, it certainly doesn't provide a company with the 
incentive to lower the price.

I don't totally agree with these arguments though I undertsand the point 
your making.  Bootlegged copies do represent lost potential sales and lost 
potential income.  Let's take this to another level.  I walk up to a car 
lot, find the keys in the ignition, and drive off with a brand new Jaguar.  
Does that NOT represent a lost sale for the dealer just because I never 
planned on buying it in the first place? Granted, I could not have 
fabricated a like Jaguar by running it through a Car Duplicating Machine, 
but you see the point.

I have thought this (the arguments above) to some degree myself in the past. 
 It's an easy rationalization that one could make in order to justify use 
without a purchase.  I never would have bought it, so I'm not doing 
anything wrong.  From the seller's standpoint, it's totally different.
The picture changes totally depending on whether you're the person 
benefiting from the free use or whether you're the person/corporation being 
deprived of income, losing sales, whatever you want to call it.

Tom C.



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