Re: Survey D and DS result

2005-02-01 Thread Holger Stephan
Another *ist Ds. Shy not, but you people keep yacking there is no 
catching up. :)

Holger in Portland, OR
Fred Widall wrote:
The totals do seem quite low - who's being shy about their (digital)
equipment - shyness is not something I expect to see around here 
This lead me to wonder how many people are subscribed to this list.
Anyone have the answer ??
I found that the mailing list archive does list the number of messages
posted each month. From those numbers here are the yearly totals
2001 33690 - 92 per day
2002 37448 - 102 per day
2003 34807 - 95 per day
2004 48505 - 133 per day
Nobody can claim that we don't have a lot to say - some of it may even
be useful !!!
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Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: Survey D and DS result

2005-02-01 Thread Jens Bladt
Did you count each one twice, Herb?

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Herb Chong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 2. februar 2005 01:40
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: Re: Survey D and DS result


not everyone responded, like me. i know when Jostein surveyed around the 
summertime, there were over 60 *istD owners on the list.

Herb
- Original Message - 
From: "John Forbes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 7:05 PM
Subject: Re: Survey D and DS result


> Surprised the total isn't higher, and surprised the DS is already at 20% 
> of the D.
>
> John
>
> On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 17:55:15 +0100, Jens Bladt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
>
>> The result of my little survey is:
>> Pentax *ist D represented on this list: 25
>> Pentax *ist DS represented on this list: 5





re: Survey D and DS result

2005-02-01 Thread Jens Bladt
106 mails every day - in (unweiged average).
I really should photograph more, sit behind the computer less!
 
Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 2. februar 2005 05:48
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: Re: Survey D and DS result


In a message dated 2/1/2005 4:31:24 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I found that the mailing list archive does list the number of messages
posted each month. From those numbers here are the yearly totals

2001 33690 - 92 per day
2002 37448 - 102 per day
2003 34807 - 95 per day
2004 48505 - 133 per day

Nobody can claim that we don't have a lot to say - some of it may even
be useful !!!

I try very hard to avoid that.

Marnie aka Doe ;-)




RE: Survey D and DS result

2005-02-01 Thread Jens Bladt
...So am I. Concidering the number of emails on this list concerning these
two cameras!

Pentax was one of the leading camera manufacturers of P&S cameras in the
nineties (quality wise, at least).
I assume that 85% of all Pentax cameras, still working or in use today is
just that - P&S cameras.
I guess mails about these cameras ammont to less than 15% of the mails on
this list.

I sometimes wonder which Pentax camera is:
The most sold model ever (my guess is the K1000).
The most "still working" camera today (perhaps also K1000).
The most used Pentax today (might be something like the Zoom70 or Espio738).

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Rob Studdert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 2. februar 2005 02:15
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: Re: Survey D and DS result


On 2 Feb 2005 at 0:05, John Forbes wrote:

> Surprised the total isn't higher, and surprised the DS is already at 20%
> of the D.

Don't be, I suspect it's far from a total assessment, I recall some time ago
there was a count of *ist D owners which neared or exceeded 50 units.


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998




Re: Blue Mountain Jamaican Coffee - Phleeewie!

2005-02-01 Thread Stan Halpin
As a Finger Lakes native, I must say that it is not the driving around 
that gets you drunk. It is the vinyard stops along the way...

Stan
On Feb 1, 2005, at 10:10 PM, Graywolf wrote:
There are a lot of good vineyards in New York state. You can get awful 
drunk driving around the Finger Lakes area.

graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
"Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof"
---
John Francis wrote:
Bear in mind that there's a pretty high fixed cost to get a heavy
bottle of glass filled with mostly water onto your shelves (not to
mention any local tax on alcoholic beverages).
On the East coast (Boston/NY/Washington, etc.) wine from California
has to travel about as far as one from France, so both have quite
significant shipping costs.  That gets the prices a lot closer to
parity, and it's quite often possible to find a French import that
offers better bang for the buck than many domestic labels.
The closer you get to the West coast, though, the more the balance
shifts in favour of the domestic product.  It's also easier to find
a Californian wine close to the European style since several of the
larger French labels have set up their own Californian vineyards.
Tom C mused:
I'll have to try some of the more expensive domestic variety then.  
Thanks.

Tom C.


From: "John Francis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Blue Mountain Jamaican Coffee - Phleeewie!
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 17:53:41 -0500 (EST)
Tom C mused:
Yeah, I must have ignored your post.  It was an impulse purchase.  
A
lesson
learned.
I have recently, in the last month, had real French champagne for 
the
first
time.  I know the label I bought is not to be considered expensive 
as
champagne goes ($42).  But I do have to say I was pleasantly 
surprised.
It
was wonderful.  Heads and tails over the $5-$15 sparkling wines 
from
California.

Tom C.
Yep.  Probably on a par with the $28 a bottle Californian stuff.


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Re: To Mac Users

2005-02-01 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> I'm sure he's realigned his priorities these days. I'm
> speaking historically. While Woz was  the genius behind the 
> Apple // and its DOS, he was not a lead figure in the shift to
> the Mac platform.

Steve Wozniak was certainly not the driving force behind Apple's
Macintosh. The Macintosh was Jeff Raskin's idea, originally, was
foisted on Steve Jobs as the board of directors were certain
that it would fail and felt SJ needed "to be taught a lesson in
humility". SJ, of course, said "to f**k with that s**t" and made
it the basis of the company's future. 

Woz was already moving away from the company: he had been in a
serious airplane accident and had a lot of difficulty returning
to work on computers. He decided to depart the scene at Apple
and move on to other things, the Mac wasn't his thing at all. 

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Re: To Mac Users

2005-02-01 Thread John Francis

That's both the blessing and the curse of a Mac.

It comes with a pretty good choice of hardware; as good as
most configurations you could put together yourself, after
carefully doing your homework.

The downside is that you sometimes end up paying for some
extras that you could do without.  But nowadays the prices
are much closer, so that extra premium is less significant;
you need to value your time pretty cheaply to justify the
amount of effort needed to save a noticeable sum.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] mused:
> 
> We're back to PC plug-in here. I've seen a dual 2.5 G5 run the 30-inch 
> monitor with the factory equipped video card. It's excellent.
> Paul
> 
> 
> > On 1 Feb 2005 at 18:16, John Francis wrote:
> > 
> > > For $80 you can get a graphics card that supports multiple monitors at
> > > insane resolutions, has 128MB of on-board graphcs memory, and even TV.
> > 
> > These types of specs still don't assure the card output will be excellent 
> > for 
> > imaging. At high resolutions and refresh speeds DAC speed/linearity, 
> > analogue 
> > tuning and board lay-outs do affect absolute resolution and perceived 
> > quality 
> > screen (DVI interfaces excluded)
> > 
> > 
> > Rob Studdert
> > HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
> > Tel +61-2-9554-4110
> > UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
> > Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
> > 
> 



Re: Survey D and DS result

2005-02-01 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Survey D and DS result


In a message dated 2/1/2005 4:31:24 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I found that the mailing list archive does list the number of 
messages
posted each month. From those numbers here are the yearly totals

2001 33690 - 92 per day
2002 37448 - 102 per day
2003 34807 - 95 per day
2004 48505 - 133 per day
Nobody can claim that we don't have a lot to say - some of it may 
even
be useful !!!

I try very hard to avoid that.
I am embarrassed to say, I am responsible for fully 1 in 20 of those 
posts.

William Robb 




Re: PESO: Breeze

2005-02-01 Thread Gonz
Guilty.  I feel like I'm imposing when I'm carrying and grabbing shots. 
 So I take "breaks" without my camera.  Maybe if I always carried it 
like a growth on my body, no one would notice anymore.  LOL.

rg
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Quoting frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 20:36:34 -0600, Gonz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Geez thanks Frank.  Its rare that I can catch her candid.  Everyone is
always "aware" when I'm carrying a camera...

I find the opposite.  Since I always have a camera with me, everyone
seems to be used to that fact, and most of my friends and
acquaintances don't seem to notice that I'm taking photos of them -
like my PAW from earlier this evening.  

Same here. Perhaps the difference is found in that "when I'm carrying" 
remark. It may imply that Gonz is sometimes seen without one.

;-)
ERNR



Re: PESO -- Canon Girl

2005-02-01 Thread William Robb

This was a grab shot of a young girl using her slr taking a grab 
shot.
The look of concentration is priceless.  I only hope I look more 
relaxed.

http://www.mindspring.com/~pjalling/PESO_--_canongirl.html
Is that concentration, or trying to see through the Canon viewfinder?
HAR!!!
William Robb 




Re: What the heck is THIS????

2005-02-01 Thread Graywolf
I would guess that the flash ring is inside the lens. There should be a long 
fiber optic probe that attaches to the lens and goes into an orifice. That 
trasmits the light from the flash up the probe, and the image down to the camera.

graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
"Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof"
---
Don Sanderson wrote:
What do you suppose the connection from lens to
PC socket does? Don't see anywhere for a flash ring.
Don

-Original Message-
From: Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 8:17 PM
To: Mark Roberts
Subject: Re: What the heck is THIS

Dedicated microscopy camera?
I think it's more of a dedicated ~endoscopy~ camera.
Boz has 3 pix of it at:
http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/bodies/photos/MF-1_back.jpg
http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/bodies/photos/MF-1_front.jpg
http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/bodies/photos/MF-1_top.jpg
I have 3 pix of it at:
http://www.cetussoft.com/pentax/mf1/mf11.jpg
http://www.cetussoft.com/pentax/mf1/mf12.jpg
http://www.cetussoft.com/pentax/mf1/mf13.jpg
I'd say it's basically a modified ME.  At least, that's the body that it
looks and feels closest to.
Fred




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Re: PESO -- Canon Girl

2005-02-01 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/1/2005 6:11:19 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This was a grab shot of a young girl using her slr taking a grab shot.  
The look of concentration is priceless.  I only hope I look more relaxed.

http://www.mindspring.com/~pjalling/PESO_--_canongirl.html

Some technical information:
Pentax *ist-D iso 400.  Shutter speed 1/180sec
smc Pentax FA 20-23mm f4.0 AL @ f4.5
=
I agree. Priceless. If making faces helped, I'd be grimacing every time. :-)

Very nice grab!

Marnie aka Doe 



Re: Survey D and DS result

2005-02-01 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/1/2005 4:31:24 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I found that the mailing list archive does list the number of messages
posted each month. From those numbers here are the yearly totals

2001 33690 - 92 per day
2002 37448 - 102 per day
2003 34807 - 95 per day
2004 48505 - 133 per day

Nobody can claim that we don't have a lot to say - some of it may even
be useful !!!

I try very hard to avoid that.

Marnie aka Doe ;-)



Graywolf's Pick

2005-02-01 Thread Graywolf
For February:
Blue
by Wendy Beard

--
I have decided that for 2005 I am going to select one shot from each gallery as
"Graywolf's Pick". "Graywolf's Pick" will be the shot that I like the best. Not
neccesarily the best shot of the month, but definately the one that speaks to me
the loudest. And, like all critics opinions, all that is is my opinion. I will
post that under the subject heading of "Graywolf's Pick".
--
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http://www.graywolfphoto.com
"Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof"
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Re: PAW: Farmer John

2005-02-01 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/1/2005 4:01:16 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
According to my personal PAW rules, I show it, even if it doesn't turn
out as I'd hoped.  So, here it is:

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3085197

Feel free to comment.

cheers,
frank
===
Generally, I like it, but I don't care for the flash effect -- too light/too 
dark. Is there anyway you can tone it done a bit? (Improve the contrast so it 
isn't so extreme?) Then I'd like it better.

Marnie aka Doe 



Re: PUG's Up!!

2005-02-01 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/1/2005 8:03:07 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
But, hey, a generation ago, "bad" meant good.  Then "phat" meant cool.
Why not sick?

cheers,
frank

Right, I had forgotten about bad.

But then, that wasn't my generation. Sick = bad, that I can grok. ;-)

Marnie aka Doe 



Re: PAW: Farmer John

2005-02-01 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi!

ft> Something a bit new (for me).  I've got several like this, and I might
ft> end up doing a bit of a series over time.  Sort of "street portraits",
ft> if you will.

ft> Makes no difference to the photograph, but FWIW this fellow, Farmer
ft> John used to be a bike courier, but now runs an organic farm west of
ft> the city.  Hence the name.

ft> I missed the focus, sadly, and took a chance on getting it printed
ft> without looking at the neg on the light table with a loupe.  Still, I
ft> kind of like it despite the technical flaws.

ft> According to my personal PAW rules, I show it, even if it doesn't turn
ft> out as I'd hoped.  So, here it is:

ft> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3085197

Frank, it works. At least on the screen. But I know that whatever I
see on the screen will probably look much different on the print. So I
can only say what I said - it works. It really does.

Just my pixels...

Boris
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: PESO: Breeze

2005-02-01 Thread ernreed2
Quoting frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 20:36:34 -0600, Gonz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Geez thanks Frank.  Its rare that I can catch her candid.  Everyone is
> > always "aware" when I'm carrying a camera...
> > 
> 
> 
> I find the opposite.  Since I always have a camera with me, everyone
> seems to be used to that fact, and most of my friends and
> acquaintances don't seem to notice that I'm taking photos of them -
> like my PAW from earlier this evening.  

Same here. Perhaps the difference is found in that "when I'm carrying" 
remark. It may imply that Gonz is sometimes seen without one.

;-)

ERNR



Re: Finally went ahead and...

2005-02-01 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi!

DN> ...ordered a Zenitar 16/2.8 fisheye off the bay. Not sure whether it
DN> will satisfy my desire for a wide-angle, but it should be worth a try.
DN> Played with PTLens and some samples from this lens last night which
DN> convinced me to give it a go.

DN> Looking forward to getting some mail...

I tried it once. Personally, I did not really liked the fish eye
effect. But probably it was just one try and I did not have a chance
to really get used to it.

I went and bought Sigma 18/3.5 rectilinear from fellow PDMLer. Mine is
also in the mail, so I am looking forward to it too :).


Boris
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: PUG's Up!!

2005-02-01 Thread David S
On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 22:47:09 -0500, frank theriault
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I know Fred's already mentioned it as being up on Adelheid's personal
> page, but it's also up on the usual page as well:
> 
> http://pug.komkon.org/
> 
> Initial views of the thumbs would indicate a pretty damn kewl gallery
> this month (or as the kids would say nowadays, "that's sick, man!")
> 
> 
> cheers,
> frank
> 
> --
> "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson


I agree, the shot that jumped out at me was "Ice Blue Morning" by
Jens. It looks s damn cold. And as the young folk around hear
would say, "it's not just sick, its fully sick mate!"

Dave S



Re: Blue Mountain Jamaican Coffee - Phleeewie!

2005-02-01 Thread Graywolf
There are a lot of good vineyards in New York state. You can get awful drunk 
driving around the Finger Lakes area.

graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
"Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof"
---
John Francis wrote:
Bear in mind that there's a pretty high fixed cost to get a heavy
bottle of glass filled with mostly water onto your shelves (not to
mention any local tax on alcoholic beverages).
On the East coast (Boston/NY/Washington, etc.) wine from California
has to travel about as far as one from France, so both have quite
significant shipping costs.  That gets the prices a lot closer to
parity, and it's quite often possible to find a French import that
offers better bang for the buck than many domestic labels.
The closer you get to the West coast, though, the more the balance
shifts in favour of the domestic product.  It's also easier to find
a Californian wine close to the European style since several of the
larger French labels have set up their own Californian vineyards.
Tom C mused:
I'll have to try some of the more expensive domestic variety then.  Thanks.
Tom C.


From: "John Francis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Blue Mountain Jamaican Coffee - Phleeewie!
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 17:53:41 -0500 (EST)
Tom C mused:
Yeah, I must have ignored your post.  It was an impulse purchase.  A 
lesson
learned.
I have recently, in the last month, had real French champagne for the 
first
time.  I know the label I bought is not to be considered expensive as
champagne goes ($42).  But I do have to say I was pleasantly surprised.  
It
was wonderful.  Heads and tails over the $5-$15 sparkling wines from
California.
Tom C.
Yep.  Probably on a par with the $28 a bottle Californian stuff.




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Re: PUG's Up!!

2005-02-01 Thread Peter J. Alling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 2/1/2005 7:48:09 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Initial views of the thumbs would indicate a pretty damn kewl gallery
this month (or as the kids would say nowadays, "that's sick, man!") 


cheers,
frank

Sick? That seems weird. Although I suppose the "neat" of my generation was no 
weirder.

But sick seems to mean the opposite.
Marnie aka Doe :-)
 

Sick has come to have both meanings.
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During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
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Re: To Mac Users

2005-02-01 Thread Peter J. Alling
If I remember an article I read a while ago correctly Woz was a 
proponent of the Lisa, which at the time was a superior platform
and an upgraded Apple ][.  There was also the Apple ]I[ which I don't 
remember anything about, except that it didn't sell as well
as Apple might have hoped.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm sure Woz is a Mac proponent now. He wasn't way back when. And he may have 
been right. Switching platforms may have been a necessity for Apple, or it may 
have set them back a few years. No one will ever no.
Paul
 

On 1/2/05, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:
   

Although if truth be told, "Woz" was never a big Mac proponent.
 

He sometimes contributes on another list I'm on. He's big into PowerBooks

Cheers,
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Re: PUG's Up!!

2005-02-01 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 19:52:41 -0800 (PST), [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> 
> Sick? That seems weird. Although I suppose the "neat" of my generation was no
> weirder.
> 
> But sick seems to mean the opposite.
> 

I learned about it when I got new handlebars for my bike, and a
20-something year old courier told me they were "sick".  At first I
was insulted, but apparently it was a compliment.

But, hey, a generation ago, "bad" meant good.  Then "phat" meant cool.
 Why not sick?

cheers,
frank
-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: PESO_--_Winterscape

2005-02-01 Thread Peter J. Alling
Well yea, I guess.
frank theriault wrote:
On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 20:14:07 -0500, Peter J. Alling
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

About 100 yards from my apartment.
   

...which would be in Connecticut?
-frank
 


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During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
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Re: PUG's Up!!

2005-02-01 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/1/2005 7:48:09 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Initial views of the thumbs would indicate a pretty damn kewl gallery
this month (or as the kids would say nowadays, "that's sick, man!") 


cheers,
frank

Sick? That seems weird. Although I suppose the "neat" of my generation was no 
weirder.

But sick seems to mean the opposite.

Marnie aka Doe :-)



Re: Film Still Best for Many Applications? (was Ruminations... )

2005-02-01 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/1/2005 10:38:01 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Which lab is that, Marnie? Where are they located?  There are quite a few
in the eBay that do very high quality darkroom and digital work.

Shel 
=
Well, I was speaking of labs in C.C. County. Action Photo. It would be even a 
longer trip for me to go to Berkeley or something.

And I no longer need it, being now, all digital. Though I am thinking of 
letting Action blow up one of my digitals to bigger than 8X10 (the biggest I 
can 
print), and see how they do. They've really been pushing that capability now. 
And I liked what they did with my shots in the past. Slides, well, it's hard to 
totally mess up slides. So that was not a good indicator, but they did pretty 
good on prints when I was still shooting with negative film. (That didn't 
last long, as I switched to positive film sometime ago, when I was shooting 
film 
-- it scanned better.)

Marnie aka Doe :-) 



PUG's Up!!

2005-02-01 Thread frank theriault
I know Fred's already mentioned it as being up on Adelheid's personal
page, but it's also up on the usual page as well:

http://pug.komkon.org/

Initial views of the thumbs would indicate a pretty damn kewl gallery
this month (or as the kids would say nowadays, "that's sick, man!") 


cheers,
frank

-- 
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Re: To Mac Users

2005-02-01 Thread pnstenquist
I'm sure Woz is a Mac proponent now. He wasn't way back when. And he may have 
been right. Switching platforms may have been a necessity for Apple, or it may 
have set them back a few years. No one will ever no.
Paul


> On 1/2/05, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
> >Although if truth be told, "Woz" was never a big Mac proponent.
> 
> He sometimes contributes on another list I'm on. He's big into PowerBooks
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers,
>   Cotty
> 
> 
> ___/\__
> ||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
> ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
> _
> 
> 



Re: To Mac Users

2005-02-01 Thread pnstenquist
> 
> 
> Cotty wrote:
> 
> > On 1/2/05, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:
> > 
> 
> >>Although if truth be told, "Woz" was never a big Mac proponent.
> 
> > 
> > He sometimes contributes on another list I'm on. He's big into PowerBooks

I'm sure he's realigned his priorities these days. I'm speaking historically. 
While Woz was  the genius behind the  Apple // and its DOS, he was not a lead 
figure in the shift to the Mac platform.


> 
> 
> Cotty wrote:
> 
> > On 1/2/05, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:
> > 
> 
> >>Although if truth be told, "Woz" was never a big Mac proponent.
> 
> > 
> > He sometimes contributes on another list I'm on. He's big into PowerBooks
> 
> I bought one of his "Woz Signature" Apple IIGS's...way back when.
> Neat machine, but it never went anywhere...
> 
> keith
> 
> > Cheers,
> >   Cotty
> 



Re: PDML Mail Archives

2005-02-01 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 08:47:23 -0600, Don Sanderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How long does it normally take for posts to appear in the archives?
> I just did a search for 'wounded ME-F' to see if any of my 3 posts
> made it here and the result was:
> 
> "No matches were found for 'wounded ME-F'"
> 
> This thread was started by Derby last night, where did it go?
> 
> Don
> 

IIRC, as quickly as 5 or 10 minutes, usually within 1/2 to 1 hour.  

My PAW:  Farmer John thread, which I started about 4 hours ago isn't
there at all, which it certainly would be under normal circumstances
(whatever the hell "normal" means on this list!  ).

>From a quick scan of the archives, it seems that most of this
evening's posts aren't there.

Hmmm...

-frank


-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: PESO: Bizarre Architecture...

2005-02-01 Thread Doug Franklin
On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 18:50:46 -0600, William Robb wrote:

> >> http://www.flaneur.com.ar/18.htm
> > It looks like the bridge on an aircraft carrier.
> 
> Bauhaus meets wee Timmy Leary.

Meets Orwell's 1984.

TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ




Re: Finally went ahead and...

2005-02-01 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 11:41:40 +1000, Rob Studdert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Frank if you can make an image unsharp though lack of focus on a 16mm you are
> truly a legend :-)

I see you chose your words very carefully, Rob, but I figure if anyone
can do it, I'm the guy.

I'll give it a shot this weekend.  

cheers,
frank


-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: Scanning woes #2

2005-02-01 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Cleaning the rollers is even suggested in the manual that comes with the
scanner ...

I've used the Coolscan 4000 and the Coolscan V for a total of three years
and thousands of scans.  Never had the problem, but all the scanners I used
were cleaned regularly.  Might have something to do with it.

It might also be noted that there's an optional frame to hold the film. 
It's the FH-3 35mm Strip Film Holder and eliminates the problem completely.
It is used instead of the standard film thingy and is inserted into the
scanner via the slide adapter.  That information is also in the manual.

Shel 


> [Original Message]
> From: William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> At some point, a film that had not been properly washed and 
> stabilized was probably scanned.
> Nor hard to do in this age of washless film processing.
> rinse residue from the film gets transferred to the guide wheel in 
> the scanner, where it awaits the unwary for evermore.
> Cleaning the wheel with isopropyl alcohol should solve the problem.




Re: PESO: Bizarre Architecture...

2005-02-01 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 18:03:46 -0500, Peter J. Alling
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I expect to see a "Buck Rogers" style spaceship parked not far away.
> 
> 

I expected a head to pop out of a doorway, and say, "The Wizard can't
see you today, so go away!"

It's got that "art deco gone awry" feeling to it, hasn't it?

One thing I know about architects (I know there was one on the list a
while back, so apologies in advance if you or any other arkie is
lurking) is that the best (or at least the best known) have to be as
good at self-promotion as they are at designing buildings.  This guy
seems to have had the first part of those two down pat!!

A fun shot, Albano.

cheers,
frank

-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: PESO_--_Winterscape

2005-02-01 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 20:14:07 -0500, Peter J. Alling
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> About 100 yards from my apartment.

...which would be in Connecticut?

-frank

-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: 500mm/4.5?

2005-02-01 Thread pnstenquist
Hi Mishka, 
It was quite a while back, so my memory is not perfect. But I think ti was 
handheld. It was on a day when I was shooting surfers, and I always shoot them 
handheld. The metadata is on my other computer, and I'll take a look at it 
later. But the pic looks like it was shot wide open. Long lenses can be a lot 
of fun, and they certainly give you a unique perspective.
Paul


> did you do that off a tripod or handheld?
> 
> mishka
> 
> On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 14:47:20 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2320639&size=lg
> 



Re: PESO: Breeze

2005-02-01 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 20:36:34 -0600, Gonz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Geez thanks Frank.  Its rare that I can catch her candid.  Everyone is
> always "aware" when I'm carrying a camera...
> 


I find the opposite.  Since I always have a camera with me, everyone
seems to be used to that fact, and most of my friends and
acquaintances don't seem to notice that I'm taking photos of them -
like my PAW from earlier this evening.  Farmer John new I had the
camera pointed at him, but didn't flinch or even seem to notice.

In the circles that I move in, everyone knows that I'll always have a
camera and that I'll likely be pointing it their way.

cheers,
frank


-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: To Mac Users

2005-02-01 Thread pnstenquist
We're back to PC plug-in here. I've seen a dual 2.5 G5 run the 30-inch monitor 
with the factory equipped video card. It's excellent.
Paul


> On 1 Feb 2005 at 18:16, John Francis wrote:
> 
> > For $80 you can get a graphics card that supports multiple monitors at
> > insane resolutions, has 128MB of on-board graphcs memory, and even TV.
> 
> These types of specs still don't assure the card output will be excellent for 
> imaging. At high resolutions and refresh speeds DAC speed/linearity, analogue 
> tuning and board lay-outs do affect absolute resolution and perceived quality 
> screen (DVI interfaces excluded)
> 
> 
> Rob Studdert
> HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
> Tel +61-2-9554-4110
> UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
> Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
> 



Re: Survey D and DS result

2005-02-01 Thread ernreed2
Quoting Rob Studdert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> On 2 Feb 2005 at 0:05, John Forbes wrote:
> 
> > Surprised the total isn't higher, and surprised the DS is already at 20% 
> 
> > of the D.
> 
> Don't be, I suspect it's far from a total assessment, I recall some time
> ago 
> there was a count of *ist D owners which neared or exceeded 50 units.


Yeah. I counted up all the people who'd used an *istD to shoot PUG entries, 
plus everybody I'd noticed mention ownership of an *istD on the list, and 
came up with more than 60.
This was late last summer. 
When I mentioned this on the list, someone else said he'd counted more than 
100.
Many more have mentioned getting them since, and then of course this was 
before there was any such thing as a Ds on the shelves.
Dario collected a list of serial numbers and dates of purchase last summer, 
so his summary should give an idea of what the *istD ownership count was at 
that time.

ERNR



Re: To Mac Users

2005-02-01 Thread John Francis
Rob Studdert mused:
> 
> On 1 Feb 2005 at 18:16, John Francis wrote:
> 
> > For $80 you can get a graphics card that supports multiple monitors at
> > insane resolutions, has 128MB of on-board graphcs memory, and even TV.
> 
> These types of specs still don't assure the card output will be excellent for 
> imaging. At high resolutions and refresh speeds DAC speed/linearity, analogue 
> tuning and board lay-outs do affect absolute resolution and perceived quality 
> screen (DVI interfaces excluded)

It's not just a matter of specs.  As I said, these are commodity items
nowadays.  Most of the graphics cards use one of two chipsets; either
nVidia or ATI.  The DACs on those 'cheap' $80 cards are generally the
same as those used on the $200 or $300 cards; perfectly capable of
driving 1600 x 1200 or 1920 x whatever at 85Hz or faster, and quite
often with a DVI output available for at least one of the monitors.

By all means shop around amongst those cards to find the best one for
colour fidelity, etc.  Just don't assume that a $600 card will be any
better than an $80 (or even $40) card; the PC graphics market is based
on speed, speed, and speed, and that's what the extra cost buys you. 





Re: PESO: Breeze

2005-02-01 Thread Gonz
Geez thanks Frank.  Its rare that I can catch her candid.  Everyone is 
always "aware" when I'm carrying a camera...

rg

frank theriault wrote:
On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 01:14:32 -0600, Gonz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Been playing around with this one, decided it was way too saturated, but
B&W did not do it justice, so I settled for somewhere in between.
Comments, flaming critiques, etc. all welcome.
http://www.g0nz.com/images/breeze.html
Thanks,
Gonz

Your daughter, eh?  She's quite beautiful.
Well caught, too.  I really like portraits like this - candid, that is.
She has such a wistful look on her face, and I like the way the wind's
in her hair (as I'm sure you did, hence the title!).
Terrific work.
cheers,
frank




Re: Least expensive Pentax Body with aperture setting for A lenses?

2005-02-01 Thread Mishka
had  people been thinking before writing, the alphabet wouldn't
have been invented yet.

actually, it applies not to pretty much everything.

best,
mishka (feeling like being a smartass)

On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 23:35:15 + (GMT), Kostas Kavoussanakis <
> or is it too big an
> inconvenience to think before you write? Sheesh!!!



Re: Scanning woes #2

2005-02-01 Thread Frantisek

Wednesday, February 2, 2005, 1:56:34 AM, William wrote:
WR> At some point, a film that had not been properly washed and 
WR> stabilized was probably scanned.
WR> Nor hard to do in this age of washless film processing.
WR> rinse residue from the film gets transferred to the guide wheel in
WR> the scanner, where it awaits the unwary for evermore.
WR> Cleaning the wheel with isopropyl alcohol should solve the problem.

Thanks, William.

I will certainly try it, but will have to await the owner's approval -
after all the scanner is not mine. Or maybe, I better not ask him ;-)

Good light!
   fra



Re: 500mm/4.5?

2005-02-01 Thread Mishka
having a 600mm on a shoulder stock might be not such a bad idea in some 
places around here. especially after dark

actually, pretty much anything on a shoulder stock would work. an m16
would be even
better  :)

best,
mishka


On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 20:47:43 -0500, Peter J. Alling
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't know, a former acquaintance used to carry a 600mm Novoflex on a
> shoulder stock as his "street" lens.



PESO -- Canon Girl

2005-02-01 Thread Peter J. Alling
This was a grab shot of a young girl using her slr taking a grab shot.  
The look of concentration is priceless.  I only hope I look more relaxed.

http://www.mindspring.com/~pjalling/PESO_--_canongirl.html
Some technical information:
Pentax *ist-D iso 400.  Shutter speed 1/180sec
smc Pentax FA 20-23mm f4.0 AL @ f4.5
Note:  The frame was cropped quite a bit this is maybe 2/3 of the 
original image.

--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




Re: PESO -- The Stranger

2005-02-01 Thread Peter J. Alling
Exfi information 1/4000sec f6.7, 70mm (about 105mm equivalent).  DOF was 
adequate for my purposes.  I'm fine with it.

Ann Sanfedele wrote:
frank theriault wrote:
 

On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 13:01:52 -0500, Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
   

I was expecting maybe Orson Welles :)
then I was expecting the puppy going nuts...
Cute, Peter - but , um,  1/4000 ??? typo?
 

He was shooting ISO 400 at f6.7 in the snow on a sunny day.  I'd say
that 1/4000th is about right.
cheers,
frank
--
   

But but it was a 70-210 f4~5.6 zoom, and a IstD, looks like late 
afternoon...
wouldn't 1/400 have done it?
Inquiring minds want to know..  Id have thought that you would stop down to
F22 or something
instead of shooting that fast - of course if it were really really cold,
Peter may not have been able
to hold the camera so steady, eh?
ann

 

"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson
   


 


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




Re: Blue Mountain Jamaican Coffee - Phleeewie!

2005-02-01 Thread Tom C
I can believe it.  Your Merlot was quite enjoyable.
Tom C.

A guy I shot a wedding for last year gave me a bottle of Champagne for 
Christmas.
$150.00 he paid for it.
It was OK, but the stuff I made myself (using the traditional method) is on 
par with it.

William Robb



Re: 500mm/4.5?

2005-02-01 Thread Peter J. Alling
Mishka wrote:
i've thought of that, as well as using it as a vodka bottle. 

but if i were to limit its use to photography, should i assume
-- what would be the typical subjects for it? i can't imagine it
as a street lens. portraits? scenics? any examples?
 

I don't know, a former acquaintance used to carry a 600mm Novoflex on a 
shoulder stock as his "street" lens.

-- it should be used mainly off a heavy trupod? how "monopod'able" is it?
-- it's close focus is roughly 10m. how limiting is it?
-- is fast aperture a significant advantage?
-- is it much better than, say, a Tamron or Tokina 300/2.8+1.4x? or
Tamron 400/4?
i am looking for opinions of people who have it and use it, please.
 

I wish I had a better answer for you, but my biggest Pentax glass is a 
*300mm f4.  I've used for everything from
sports to wildlife to portraits to landscapes.  I've used my 600mm 
mirror mainly for nature.

thanks,
mishka
On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 11:19:52 -0500, Peter J. Alling
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

The uses of a lens are limited only by your imagination,  I suppose you
could use it as a baseball bat in a pinch.
   


 


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




Re: Least expensive Pentax Body with aperture setting for A lenses?

2005-02-01 Thread Bob Sullivan
Bill,
I'm out of meds and mad as hell.
Testosterone levels are way out of bounds.
Bob S.


On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 19:26:59 -0600, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bob Sullivan"
> Subject: Re: Least expensive Pentax Body with aperture setting for A
> lenses?
> 
> > Kostas,
> > How many messages ago was that?... or is it too inconvenient for
> > you
> > to quote the past text?  You want to give me attitude, you'll get
> > it
> > right back.
> > Bob S.
> 
> Bob, are you still on your meds?
> I am just wondering if summer is going to come early to the northern
> hemisphere.
> 
> 
> William Robb
> 
>



Re: Least expensive Pentax Body with aperture setting for A lenses?

2005-02-01 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: "Bob Sullivan"
Subject: Re: Least expensive Pentax Body with aperture setting for A 
lenses?


Kostas,
How many messages ago was that?... or is it too inconvenient for 
you
to quote the past text?  You want to give me attitude, you'll get 
it
right back.
Bob S.
Bob, are you still on your meds?
I am just wondering if summer is going to come early to the northern 
hemisphere.


William Robb 




Re: Least expensive Pentax Body with aperture setting for A lenses?

2005-02-01 Thread Bob Sullivan
Kostas,
How many messages ago was that?... or is it too inconvenient for you
to quote the past text?  You want to give me attitude, you'll get it
right back.
Bob S.


On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 23:35:15 + (GMT), Kostas Kavoussanakis
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Feb 2005, Bob Sullivan wrote:
> 
> > Well, put an A lens on that Super Program and twist the aperture to
> > whatever value you want and the camera will go into TV mode for you
> > and pick the proper time... or is it too big of an inconvenience to
> > shift your hand from the focus ring to the aperture ring?  Sheesh!!!
> 
> Let me reply in the same tone as you then:
> 
> Well, go and read the original question and think whether what you
> wrote above answers it even partially... or is it too big an
> inconvenience to think before you write? Sheesh!!!
> 
> Kostas (my guess is the OP wants to try the aperture-from-the-body
> method before shelling out for the DSLRs)
> 
>



Re: PESO -- The Stranger

2005-02-01 Thread Ann Sanfedele
frank theriault wrote:

> On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 13:01:52 -0500, Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I was expecting maybe Orson Welles :)
> >
> > then I was expecting the puppy going nuts...
> >
> > Cute, Peter - but , um,  1/4000 ??? typo?
>
> He was shooting ISO 400 at f6.7 in the snow on a sunny day.  I'd say
> that 1/4000th is about right.
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
> --

But but it was a 70-210 f4~5.6 zoom, and a IstD, looks like late afternoon...

wouldn't 1/400 have done it?

Inquiring minds want to know..  Id have thought that you would stop down to
F22 or something
instead of shooting that fast - of course if it were really really cold,
Peter may not have been able
to hold the camera so steady, eh?

ann




>
> "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: 500mm/4.5?

2005-02-01 Thread Mishka
i've thought of that, as well as using it as a vodka bottle. 

but if i were to limit its use to photography, should i assume

-- what would be the typical subjects for it? i can't imagine it
as a street lens. portraits? scenics? any examples?
-- it should be used mainly off a heavy trupod? how "monopod'able" is it?
-- it's close focus is roughly 10m. how limiting is it?
-- is fast aperture a significant advantage?
-- is it much better than, say, a Tamron or Tokina 300/2.8+1.4x? or
Tamron 400/4?
i am looking for opinions of people who have it and use it, please.

thanks,
mishka

On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 11:19:52 -0500, Peter J. Alling
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The uses of a lens are limited only by your imagination,  I suppose you
> could use it as a baseball bat in a pinch.



Re: PESO_--_Winterscape

2005-02-01 Thread Peter J. Alling
About 100 yards from my apartment. 

frank theriault wrote:
On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 02:18:10 -0500, Peter J. Alling
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

Title speaks for itself.
http://www.mindspring.com/~pjalling/PESO_--_winterscape.html
*ist-D iso 400 1/350sec
SMC-Pentax -FA 43mm f1.9 @ 8.0
--
   

It's very pretty, very idyllic.  I think you've got your 2005
Christmas card!  
Somewhere in Connecticut?

 


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




Re: PESO: Bizarre Architecture...

2005-02-01 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: "Doug Franklin" 
Subject: Re: PESO: Bizarre Architecture...


http://www.flaneur.com.ar/18.htm
It looks like the bridge on an aircraft carrier.

Bauhaus meets wee Timmy Leary.
William Robb


Re: Blue Mountain Jamaican Coffee - Phleeewie!

2005-02-01 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: "John Forbes" 
Subject: Re: Blue Mountain Jamaican Coffee - Phleeewie!


You're in the wrong job, then, William.
I probably just don't have an educated palate.
William Robb




Re: Scanning woes #2

2005-02-01 Thread William Robb
At some point, a film that had not been properly washed and 
stabilized was probably scanned.
Nor hard to do in this age of washless film processing.
rinse residue from the film gets transferred to the guide wheel in 
the scanner, where it awaits the unwary for evermore.
Cleaning the wheel with isopropyl alcohol should solve the problem.

William Robb




Re: To Mac Users

2005-02-01 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I wasn't referring to the hardware, John. That's commodity stuff
today, I agree. The hard stuff is in the graphics software
system that makes use of the hardware... 

Godfrey

--- John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Desktop graphics systems are commodity items nowadays, and
> have been
> for some years; about the only application that can tell the
> difference
> between a $5 graphics chip, a $50 graphics board from NVidia
> or ATI and
> the top-of-the line subsystem is a real-time 3D
> graphics-intensive game.
> (And even there the $10 chips in an X-Box or PS/2 do pretty
> darn well).
> 
> For $80 you can get a graphics card that supports multiple
> monitors at
> insane resolutions, has 128MB of on-board graphcs memory, and
> even TV.
> 
> (State-of-the-art, nowadays, appears to be a $600 water-cooled
> card
> with 256MB of RAM clocked at over 1GHz.  That's getting pretty
> silly)




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Re: To Mac Users

2005-02-01 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
--- Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The underlying OS infrastructure in Mac OS X are a
revolution
> >  over anything in Mac OS 9 or before
>
> A revolution to Apple perhaps, but just good ol' UNIX to me.

LOL ... Uh huh. That *is* a revolution in the microcomputer
world... ;-)

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Re: 500mm/4.5?

2005-02-01 Thread Mishka
did you do that off a tripod or handheld?

mishka

On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 14:47:20 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2320639&size=lg



Re: To Mac Users

2005-02-01 Thread Rob Studdert
On 1 Feb 2005 at 18:16, John Francis wrote:

> For $80 you can get a graphics card that supports multiple monitors at
> insane resolutions, has 128MB of on-board graphcs memory, and even TV.

These types of specs still don't assure the card output will be excellent for 
imaging. At high resolutions and refresh speeds DAC speed/linearity, analogue 
tuning and board lay-outs do affect absolute resolution and perceived quality 
screen (DVI interfaces excluded)


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998



Re: PESO - Frank's roommate

2005-02-01 Thread Ann Sanfedele
frank theriault wrote:

> On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 12:57:42 -0500, Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I didn't get the bounce back on my original post either -
> > I think everyone should make a pact to leave the hot links in - in all 
> > replies
> > especially given the odd blank spaces in the posts here!
> > Between your comments and  Dave's, this one should get a lot of looks -
> > hope no one think's it is representative of my photo style tho!
> >
> > The picture WAS taken at Frank's when I visited him last summer, btw
> >
> > ann
>
> I can confirm that.  My house.  My bunny.  Thanks, BTW, Ann, it was a
> lovely gift!  
>
> cheers,
> frank
>

Well time to name him then harumph :)
ann

>
> --
> "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: PESO: Bizarre Architecture...

2005-02-01 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Now someone in Texas, USA, should post a picture of the
FINA gas station in Shamrock.
( I have shots buried somewhere, but not good ones...
Albano, you will see the similarity - I bet he had
traveled through the USA :)

ann

Albano Garcia wrote:

> Hi gang,
> This is a building built in the 30s by a freak
> architect called Salamone. He came to Argentina and
> convinced government to build several public buildings
> in very small towns (3000 inhabitants). He built
> cemetaries entries, cityhalls and slaughterhouses. All
> were huge and pastiche, out of scale in their
> enviroments.
> This is a cityhall:
>
> http://www.flaneur.com.ar/18.htm
>
> Regards,
>
> =
> Albano Garcia
> Photography & Graphic Design
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RE: Topcon FS ?

2005-02-01 Thread Andre Langevin
Minolta has a very nice TTL flash, the 360, a kind of beefed-up 
AF-280T, that is also easier to use off-camera than Pentax flashes 
(no need of an external grip to support the off-camera flash and you 
also don't loose the on-camera contacts with their acessories).

Andre
I didn't know! Well, I have read about Exakta adapeters, but never payed
attention to the posibilities.
Thanks!
Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Andre Langevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 31. januar 2005 17:27
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: RE: Topcon FS ?

Thanks, I know.
I parted with my Super D and 3-4 very nice lenses, waist level finder etc.
to help finance a trip to South Africa.
I guess I regret that. Now I just want a body, htat can perhaps utilize
some
of my Exakta lenses :-)
I nearly got a mint RE-2 yesterday (just 60 USD), but my internet conection
droped out...:-(
Jens Bladt
Jens, you might already know it, but another way to use the Exakta
lenses is to put them on a Minolta X-500/570 with the Exakta adaptor.
Not the feeling of a Topcon but TTL flash & multi-function back are
nice feature.  Konica bodies are also a choice but with less feature.
Andre



Re: Finally went ahead and...

2005-02-01 Thread Rob Studdert
On 1 Feb 2005 at 19:27, frank theriault wrote:

> On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 09:01:50 +1100, David Nelson
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > ...ordered a Zenitar 16/2.8 fisheye off the bay. Not sure whether it
> > will satisfy my desire for a wide-angle, but it should be worth a try.
> > Played with PTLens and some samples from this lens last night which
> > convinced me to give it a go.
> > 
> > Looking forward to getting some mail...
> 
> I just got back my first set of contacts with my new Zenitar fisheye. 
> I still don't really know how to use it yet, but it's a fun lens!
> 
> OTOH, I've heard that it does funny things with colours (has an
> oversaturated look?), but that's pretty moot with me.  I'm getting
> back a roll of colour prints of Friday, so I might have something to
> scan and post.  Mind you, I could scan the contacts - they'd be fuzzy,
> but with me, who would notice?  

Frank if you can make an image unsharp though lack of focus on a 16mm you are 
truly a legend :-)


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998



Re: Survey D and DS result

2005-02-01 Thread Herb Chong
not everyone responded, like me. i know when Jostein surveyed around the 
summertime, there were over 60 *istD owners on the list.

Herb
- Original Message - 
From: "John Forbes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 7:05 PM
Subject: Re: Survey D and DS result


Surprised the total isn't higher, and surprised the DS is already at 20% 
of the D.

John
On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 17:55:15 +0100, Jens Bladt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

The result of my little survey is:
Pentax *ist D represented on this list: 25
Pentax *ist DS represented on this list: 5



Re: PESO -- The Stranger

2005-02-01 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 13:01:52 -0500, Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was expecting maybe Orson Welles :)
> 
> then I was expecting the puppy going nuts...
> 
> Cute, Peter - but , um,  1/4000 ??? typo?

He was shooting ISO 400 at f6.7 in the snow on a sunny day.  I'd say
that 1/4000th is about right.

cheers,
frank

-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: PESO -- The Stranger

2005-02-01 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 01:29:33 -0500, Peter J. Alling
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There's a little back story on this, I was taking my puppy for a walk
> when he spied this mysterious figure and went completely out of his mind...
> 
> http://www.mindspring.com/~pjalling/PESO_--_thestranger.html
> 
> A little technical data.
> Pentax *ist-d ISO 400 shutter speed 1/4000
> SMC-P F 70-210mm f4~5.6 @ f6.7
> 
>

I love it!! (both the photo, and the pup's reaction)

-frank

-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: To Mac Users

2005-02-01 Thread Tim Sherburne

You'd be amazed...

On 2/1/05 16:32, Herb Chong wrote:

> whenever i have bought combined Mac/Windows applications books written by a
> mostly Mac user, it always struck me that they spent a lot of time telling
> the users "this is a computer. it's like having a really fast, dumb
> assistant. it does whatever you tell it to do, no matter how stupid" and go
> onwards from there. it always struck me how these books assumed that Mac
> users needed to be reassured that their computers really don't need a PhD in
> computers to use.
> 
> Herb...
> - Original Message -
> From: "Tim Sherburne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Pentax Discussion List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 4:39 PM
> Subject: Re: To Mac Users
> 
> 
>> 
>> I think the classes are more like "Hey windows user, we're gonna show you
>> how Macs can save you time and make computing fun!"
> 
> 
> 
> 



Re: Air Guitar Magazine: More!

2005-02-01 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 21:06:02 -0500, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Frank, if your performance artist friend is ever looking for a venue in
> Pittsburgh at which to perform "Sex with Filing Cabinet" I strongly
> suspect this would be the place. If she wants musical accompaniment, Air
> Guitar Magazine is the band.

Yeah, Marlee.  Maybe Dave and I will bring her down to GFM!  


> 
> Ooh, another PDML member becomes an adjective! [in reference to my comment 
> that Mark's photos looked "Beuhlerian" - frank]

I'm just trying to "spread it around" a bit.  

cheers,
frank


-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: To Mac Users

2005-02-01 Thread Herb Chong
whenever i have bought combined Mac/Windows applications books written by a 
mostly Mac user, it always struck me that they spent a lot of time telling 
the users "this is a computer. it's like having a really fast, dumb 
assistant. it does whatever you tell it to do, no matter how stupid" and go 
onwards from there. it always struck me how these books assumed that Mac 
users needed to be reassured that their computers really don't need a PhD in 
computers to use.

Herb...
- Original Message - 
From: "Tim Sherburne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Pentax Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 4:39 PM
Subject: Re: To Mac Users


I think the classes are more like "Hey windows user, we're gonna show you
how Macs can save you time and make computing fun!"



Re: PESO_--_Winterscape

2005-02-01 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 02:18:10 -0500, Peter J. Alling
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Title speaks for itself.
> 
> http://www.mindspring.com/~pjalling/PESO_--_winterscape.html
> 
> *ist-D iso 400 1/350sec
> SMC-Pentax -FA 43mm f1.9 @ 8.0
> --

It's very pretty, very idyllic.  I think you've got your 2005
Christmas card!  

Somewhere in Connecticut?



-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: Survey D and DS result

2005-02-01 Thread Fred Widall
The totals do seem quite low - who's being shy about their (digital)
equipment - shyness is not something I expect to see around here 

This lead me to wonder how many people are subscribed to this list.
Anyone have the answer ??

I found that the mailing list archive does list the number of messages
posted each month. From those numbers here are the yearly totals

2001 33690 - 92 per day
2002 37448 - 102 per day
2003 34807 - 95 per day
2004 48505 - 133 per day

Nobody can claim that we don't have a lot to say - some of it may even
be useful !!!

--
 Fred Widall,
 Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 URL: http://www.ist.uwaterloo.ca/~fwwidall
--



Re: Finally went ahead and...

2005-02-01 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 09:01:50 +1100, David Nelson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ...ordered a Zenitar 16/2.8 fisheye off the bay. Not sure whether it
> will satisfy my desire for a wide-angle, but it should be worth a try.
> Played with PTLens and some samples from this lens last night which
> convinced me to give it a go.
> 
> Looking forward to getting some mail...

I just got back my first set of contacts with my new Zenitar fisheye. 
I still don't really know how to use it yet, but it's a fun lens!

OTOH, I've heard that it does funny things with colours (has an
oversaturated look?), but that's pretty moot with me.  I'm getting
back a roll of colour prints of Friday, so I might have something to
scan and post.  Mind you, I could scan the contacts - they'd be fuzzy,
but with me, who would notice?  

cheers,
frank
> 


-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: PESO: Breeze

2005-02-01 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 01:14:32 -0600, Gonz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Been playing around with this one, decided it was way too saturated, but
> B&W did not do it justice, so I settled for somewhere in between.
> Comments, flaming critiques, etc. all welcome.
> 
> http://www.g0nz.com/images/breeze.html
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Gonz

Your daughter, eh?  She's quite beautiful.

Well caught, too.  I really like portraits like this - candid, that is.

She has such a wistful look on her face, and I like the way the wind's
in her hair (as I'm sure you did, hence the title!).

Terrific work.

cheers,
frank


-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: PAW: Farmer John

2005-02-01 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 00:10:48 -, John Forbes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I meant to add, I like the picture.  Might have been taken in 1880, as
> much as 2004/5.
> 

Thanks!

-frank

-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: PAW: Farmer John

2005-02-01 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 00:07:40 -, John Forbes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > ...I missed the focus, sadly, 
> 
> There's a first time for everything.  :-)
> 
> John

That's (at least) the second crack you've made about my
focus/sharpness in recent days.

Keep up the good work!  

cheers,
frank


-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: PAW: Farmer John

2005-02-01 Thread Peter J. Alling
The focus isn't that bad, better than I did with the girl in the 
accountants office.  Still the image
is a bit dark, though there does seem to be some detail in even the deep 
shadow regions, at \
least on my monitor.

frank theriault wrote:
Something a bit new (for me).  I've got several like this, and I might
end up doing a bit of a series over time.  Sort of "street portraits",
if you will.
Makes no difference to the photograph, but FWIW this fellow, Farmer
John used to be a bike courier, but now runs an organic farm west of
the city.  Hence the name.
I missed the focus, sadly, and took a chance on getting it printed
without looking at the neg on the light table with a loupe.  Still, I
kind of like it despite the technical flaws.
According to my personal PAW rules, I show it, even if it doesn't turn
out as I'd hoped.  So, here it is:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3085197
Feel free to comment.
cheers,
frank
 


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




Re: PAW: Farmer John

2005-02-01 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 16:12:24 -0800, Juan Buhler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Interesting portrait, Frank.
> 
> Where is the light coming from?

The flash on the camera.

Actually, it was dusk, so the flash (a Vivitar 3700 with Pentax ttl
mod) was a bit more than a fill flash in that light.

Glad you liked it, Juan.

cheers,
frank


-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: Survey D and DS result

2005-02-01 Thread Rob Studdert
On 2 Feb 2005 at 0:05, John Forbes wrote:

> Surprised the total isn't higher, and surprised the DS is already at 20%  
> of the D.

Don't be, I suspect it's far from a total assessment, I recall some time ago 
there was a count of *ist D owners which neared or exceeded 50 units.


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998



Re: 500mm/4.5?

2005-02-01 Thread Herb Chong
i frequently use my FA* 400/5.6 on extension tubes or with a good close-up 
lens to take pictures of flowers. it's a very good lens and holds up well 
used this way.

Herb
- Original Message - 
From: "Mishka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 7:14 AM
Subject: 500mm/4.5?


i have an opportunity to buy a K500/4.5 at a good price. i understand 
that's
a pretty good lens.

the only thing i am not sure is what it is good for. are there any
uses for it, other than sports and birds?
best,
mishka




Re: PAW: Farmer John

2005-02-01 Thread Juan Buhler
Interesting portrait, Frank.

Where is the light coming from?

j

On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 18:59:53 -0500, frank theriault
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Something a bit new (for me).  I've got several like this, and I might
> end up doing a bit of a series over time.  Sort of "street portraits",
> if you will.
> 
> Makes no difference to the photograph, but FWIW this fellow, Farmer
> John used to be a bike courier, but now runs an organic farm west of
> the city.  Hence the name.
> 
> I missed the focus, sadly, and took a chance on getting it printed
> without looking at the neg on the light table with a loupe.  Still, I
> kind of like it despite the technical flaws.
> 
> According to my personal PAW rules, I show it, even if it doesn't turn
> out as I'd hoped.  So, here it is:
> 
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3085197
> 
> Feel free to comment.
> 
> cheers,
> frank
> --
> "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson
> 
> 


-- 
Juan Buhler
http://www.jbuhler.com
blog at http://www.jbuhler.com/blog



Re: Scanning woes #2

2005-02-01 Thread Herb Chong
well, i mostly do slide scanning, but every time i scan strips of negatives 
on my 4000, i have no residue or dust to deal with from the roller. it just 
works, and that is the important thing.

Herb
- Original Message - 
From: "Frantisek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Herb Chong" 
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 7:12 AM
Subject: Re: Scanning woes #2


I don't know. I know of several users of that range up to 9000. I
haven't talked to them about it yet, but one that used the 4000 in
work told me of the same problem. I think the wheel probably need just
a cleaning, but all in all, I don't like the mechanism when there
could be probably a better solution without that risk.



Re: PAW: Farmer John

2005-02-01 Thread John Forbes
I meant to add, I like the picture.  Might have been taken in 1880, as  
much as 2004/5.

John
On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 18:59:53 -0500, frank theriault  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Something a bit new (for me).  I've got several like this, and I might
end up doing a bit of a series over time.  Sort of "street portraits",
if you will.
Makes no difference to the photograph, but FWIW this fellow, Farmer
John used to be a bike courier, but now runs an organic farm west of
the city.  Hence the name.
I missed the focus, sadly, and took a chance on getting it printed
without looking at the neg on the light table with a loupe.  Still, I
kind of like it despite the technical flaws.
According to my personal PAW rules, I show it, even if it doesn't turn
out as I'd hoped.  So, here it is:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3085197
Feel free to comment.
cheers,
frank

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Re: PAW: Farmer John

2005-02-01 Thread John Forbes
On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 18:59:53 -0500, frank theriault  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote, inter alia:


...I missed the focus, sadly, 
There's a first time for everything.  :-)
John

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Re: Survey D and DS result

2005-02-01 Thread John Forbes
Surprised the total isn't higher, and surprised the DS is already at 20%  
of the D.

John
On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 17:55:15 +0100, Jens Bladt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

The result of my little survey is:
Pentax *ist D represented on this list: 25
Pentax *ist DS represented on this list: 5
All the best
Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt






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Re: PESO - Frank's roommate

2005-02-01 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 12:57:42 -0500, Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I didn't get the bounce back on my original post either -
> I think everyone should make a pact to leave the hot links in - in all replies
> especially given the odd blank spaces in the posts here!
> Between your comments and  Dave's, this one should get a lot of looks -
> hope no one think's it is representative of my photo style tho!
> 
> The picture WAS taken at Frank's when I visited him last summer, btw
> 
> ann

I can confirm that.  My house.  My bunny.  Thanks, BTW, Ann, it was a
lovely gift!  

cheers,
frank




-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: Blue Mountain Jamaican Coffee - Phleeewie!

2005-02-01 Thread John Forbes
You're in the wrong job, then, William.
John
On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 17:21:36 -0600, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

A guy I shot a wedding for last year gave me a bottle of Champagne for  
Christmas.
$150.00 he paid for it.
It was OK, but the stuff I made myself (using the traditional method) is  
on par with it.

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Re: PESO - Frank's roommate

2005-02-01 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 12:29:28 -0500, Peter J. Alling
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ann, I didn't get the original post.  But that's cruel, very cruel.  I
> don't know who it's crueler for Farnk, Franks roommate, or us. :-)

Actually, Peter,

Believe it or not, Ann did take that at my house!  Really.

She gave me the stuffed bunny as a present, and then recorded it for
posterity on her little digi-cam.

Actually, I haven't given it a name yet.  I was thinking Peter Rabbit...



cheers,
frank


-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



PAW: Farmer John

2005-02-01 Thread frank theriault
Something a bit new (for me).  I've got several like this, and I might
end up doing a bit of a series over time.  Sort of "street portraits",
if you will.

Makes no difference to the photograph, but FWIW this fellow, Farmer
John used to be a bike courier, but now runs an organic farm west of
the city.  Hence the name.

I missed the focus, sadly, and took a chance on getting it printed
without looking at the neg on the light table with a loupe.  Still, I
kind of like it despite the technical flaws.

According to my personal PAW rules, I show it, even if it doesn't turn
out as I'd hoped.  So, here it is:

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3085197

Feel free to comment.

cheers,
frank
-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: What do I need for astrophotography?

2005-02-01 Thread Herb Chong
i realized from some private email that this description of the Pentax 
PF-CA35 adapter is a bit misleading. the objective focal length of the 
PF-100ED is 650mm, but with the PF-CA35 attached, Pentax rates it as a 
1250/12.5 lens. unlike the older Pentax telescope adapter, the PF-CA35 has a 
lens in it. that lens, in my opinion, accounts for much of the flare and CA 
that i see. for high contrast subjects like birds or branches against a sky, 
it's pretty nasty. for lower contrast scenes where there is no sky in the 
background, the flare and CA are much less objectionable.

Herb
- Original Message - 
From: "Herb Chong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 6:38 AM
Subject: Re: What do I need for astrophotography?


telescopes have a much lower f-stop than you might think. the Pentax 
PF-80ED is a 600mm/12.5 with the PF-CA35 adapter. quality might also be 
lower than you might expect too. my PF-100ED is a 650/12.5 with lots of CA 
and flare. i get a much more light out of my A* 400/2.8 with the 1.7X 
extender and much less flare and CA. i use the PF-100ED for birding some 
of the time, but i have never gotten anything publishable with the camera 
attached. it is an excellent scope though. if your friend's telescope has 
a tracking mount for long exposures, the small aperture is less of an 
issue.



Re: Least expensive Pentax Body with aperture setting for A lenses?

2005-02-01 Thread Nick Clark
The obvious one is the *ist. In fact this won’t let you use the aperture ring 
at all.

Nick

-Original Message-
From: "Kostas Kavoussanakis"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  



Re: Finally went ahead and...

2005-02-01 Thread Doug Franklin
On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 10:46:35 +1000, Rob Studdert wrote:

> My A16/2.8 Fish-eye is now in my regular *ist D kit. I shoot it as
> if it were a regular wide angle and convert to rectilinear in post
> processing. So I get the occasional benefit of being able to shoot
> a fisheye'ish (*ist D) image or ultra-WA rect.

I'm still doing film, so I use it as an actual full-frame fish eye. 
This coming season, though, I'm going to make more of an effort to use
it the way you describe.  Since I do all my post processing digitally
(from scanned film) it's easy for me to simulate the *ist D "crop
factor" once I get the shot into the 'puter.



TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ




Re: Finally went ahead and...

2005-02-01 Thread David Nelson
Recently saw the Pentax A16/2.8 fisheye together with the 31 and 77 in 
Rob's 'three-lens' kit, as well as some of the results (rectilinear 
converted and not). Judging from that, plus the fact that my FA28 is the 
widest prime I have, I should find some use for it (-:

Cheers,
David
Doug Franklin wrote:
I love my Zenitar fish eye, but it's a very special purpose lens.  It
doesn't come out of my bag very often, though.


TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ



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Re: To Mac Users

2005-02-01 Thread Keith Whaley

Cotty wrote:
On 1/2/05, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:

Although if truth be told, "Woz" was never a big Mac proponent.

He sometimes contributes on another list I'm on. He's big into PowerBooks
I bought one of his "Woz Signature" Apple IIGS's...way back when.
Neat machine, but it never went anywhere...
keith
Cheers,
  Cotty



Re: Finally went ahead and...

2005-02-01 Thread Rob Studdert
On 1 Feb 2005 at 18:37, Doug Franklin wrote:

> I love my Zenitar fish eye, but it's a very special purpose lens.  It
> doesn't come out of my bag very often, though.

My A16/2.8 Fish-eye is now in my regular *ist D kit. I shoot it as if it were a 
regular wide angle and convert to rectilinear in post processing. So I get the 
occasional benefit of being able to shoot a fisheye'ish (*ist D) image or ultra-
WA rect.


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998



Re: To Mac Users

2005-02-01 Thread Cotty
On 1/2/05, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Although if truth be told, "Woz" was never a big Mac proponent.

He sometimes contributes on another list I'm on. He's big into PowerBooks




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: PESO: Bizarre Architecture...

2005-02-01 Thread Doug Franklin
On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 14:38:11 -0800 (PST), Albano Garcia wrote:

> This is a building built in the 30s by a freak
> architect called Salamone. ... 
> This is a cityhall:
> 
> http://www.flaneur.com.ar/18.htm

It looks like the bridge on an aircraft carrier.

TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ




Re: Finally went ahead and...

2005-02-01 Thread Doug Franklin
On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 14:08:50 -0800 (PST), Jon M wrote:

> I'd like to see how it does for you. I've considered
> one, as well as the Jupiter 85/2 that seems to show up
> in M42 all the time.
> 
> 
> --- David Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > ...ordered a Zenitar 16/2.8 fisheye off the bay. Not
> > sure whether it 

I love my Zenitar fish eye, but it's a very special purpose lens.  It
doesn't come out of my bag very often, though.

TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ




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