Re: PESO: Gotcha - Jerusalem, and a little rant
Hi, She can't watch Casablanca? To Kill a Mockingbird? Raging Bull? No, no, and no. Nor Citizen Kane, for that matter. To her, colour is important. The absence of colour outweighs just about everything else; she can't see through it to the story beneath, because the lack of colour is so intrusive. Buy her some rose-tinted spectacles! -- Cheers, Bob
Re: PESO: Gotcha - Jerusalem
Hi, Not a shooting style I'm familiar with. Then I can't wait to see what you do when you practice! Don't get me wrong, Jostein, this is a very powerful image, and a terrific (if depressing) photo. [...] Very strong image!! Yes, I completely agree. It wouldn't look at all out of place in an essay in the World Press awards, in my opinion. It really encapsulates something about the state of the world - religion, history, casual violence. I don't think it would be improved by black whiting it - it is already monochromatic, and there is really nothing to distract the viewer from the point of the photo. It's really rather chilling the way he's drawing a bead on you. -- Cheers, Bob
Re: any further comments on the FA 28-105/3.2-4.5 AL IF ?
This is a big plus of the FA lenses. I have an F35-135; the range is much closer to what I like but the closest it focuses (modulo the 135 macro setting) is ~1.5 meters. If money was not a concern I would be tempted to try the Tamron AF 3.5-5.6 24- 135mm Aspherical AD IF SP, appears to be very well rated. Anyone tried one? John
Re: PESO: Godfrey
I guess that's Art. Revealing, but most of your subjects won't thank you. Hey, people posted pictures of me without asking. I figured PDML gathering photos were fair game. John Celio -- http://www.neovenator.com http://www.newpixel.net AIM: Neopifex Hey, I'm an artist. I can do whatever I want and pretend I'm making a statement.
Re: PESO: Godfrey
Do people always react this way when you take their picture? -Patsy You should see the shot I got of you. (; John Celio P.S.: it's not a bad photo of you, btw. -- http://www.neovenator.com http://www.newpixel.net AIM: Neopifex Hey, I'm an artist. I can do whatever I want and pretend I'm making a statement.
RE: PESO -- You are what you eat.
Hi Peter this looks more like an example of the language barrier than an exapmle of strange sense of humor. BTW, this would be a nice PUG theme, what do you think? greetings Markus My strange sense of humor is all. Due to an accident of history this native American Bird is called a Turkey. A
RE: MX OUtlook Express Question
Hi Hern that programm exists already, it's called MAF Outlook Express Backup 1.75 and is freeware. It packs Email, Adress book and favorites in a archive automated or manually, not for Outlook but the Express versions. Here is the link: http://jubaco.light.hl-users.com/ greetings Markus the email program has its faults. other programs are better in many ways, but they take a little more effort to install and make work. Microsoft has made a lot of money by appearing as the path of least resistance. i think an export program that can read and make backups of OE mail folders without OE running would solve a lot of problems. Herb...
Re: My Cotty worked!
On 20/3/05, Don Sanderson, discombobulated, unleashed: http://www.donsauction.com/pdml/MyCotty.jpg It fits nicely on the ist-D too but I couldn't figure out how to take a shot of the D, with the D. ;-) Sorry I didn't record it for you Cotty but I said a couple 'naughty' words when I slipped. So far I have become a noun and a verb. I aspire to be an adjective of course, but Rome wasn't built in a day. Sorry - Rome wasn't Cottied in a day Good work Don, Gold Star for you :-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
RE: MX OUtlook Express Question
Hi Mark it's good having a backup strategy like you have. For my part, I still would watch out for a used DLT tape drive on an auction to do some additional automated backups on a **different media.** Your data would fit on one tape. I see them here from time to time for around 500$ used including some media and a scsi controller. And you really should also store a backup at a **different place** from your home in case of fire, water, theft and such. Here is a link for a freeware OE backup program, not very nice, but working: http://jubaco.light.hl-users.com/ Second Copy and similar programs could also synchronize a job in the background and I recommend NTBACKUP for autmation too. Back to Pentax topics now for me, everything has been written ;-) greetings Markus In my own defense, though - I do generate a lot of stuff to be backed up, and running the 15 - 20 gigs needed through the network connection takes a big chunk of time.
Re: PESO Water on fire
On 20/3/05, Graywolf, discombobulated, unleashed: A ketch rigged junk Yawl have a nice day now Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
RE: MX OUtlook Express Question
Hi Mark the days of Peter Nortons famous unerase program have long gone. Forget about the Norton Utilities and most similar programs under XP or W2K today. They are mostly useless and bloated software since the takeover by Symantec and even dangerous in the hands of normal users. There is a lot better freeware available, look at www.sysinternals.com for example, and XP has sufficient tools for most of us. Chkdsk is good enough but won't help with your problem as Herb has already pointed out. What's really missing is a good uneraser, where Ontrack Emergency Recovery is on of the best but most expensive. Oulooks database should be compressed often, because it starts corrupting its files after a certain size is reached. Maybe it's time for Thunderbird? greetings Markus but it also makes me wonder if there aren't better alternatives (in the DOS days scandisk and the Norton Utilities seemed much better than chkdsk,
Re: PESO: Gotcha - Jerusalem
On 21/3/05, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed: Boys always play with guns and cars, and girls always play with dolls. Until they grow up a bit more when boys play with girls, usually in cars. And older still when boys play with guns. And finally, sadly, the boys play with dolls. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
RE: PESO: The splendour and the misery of Berlin
Hi Frank and still no answer from your side whether people **know that you are publishing them later** and if they still **feel okay**? greetings ;-) Markus I know with the anti-paparazzi laws that are being proposed in some places, that may change, but we have no such laws here, so I can take and publish photos of people in public any time I want to. Who I photo, and when I show them is my decision. cheers, frank
RE: Boys be Boys
Hi Boris yes, a pleasant picture after the more serious background of Josteins shooting image. You pic has extremly depth for me, very good, b/w works well here. Keep up being lazy Boris (and did you get the Tamron 90mm macro already?) greetings Markus I am lazy. So may be whenever Jostein posts an image from his trip I'll post mine... I know, I *am* lazy... http://www.photoforum.ru/rate/photo.php?photo_id=177067 I thought b/w would work here... Thanks in advance for your comments. Boris
Re: PESO: Gotcha - Jerusalem, and a little rant
She can't watch Casablanca? To Kill a Mockingbird? Raging Bull? No, no, and no. Nor Citizen Kane, for that matter. To her, colour is important. The absence of colour outweighs just about everything else; she can't see through it to the story beneath, because the lack of colour is so intrusive. Buy her some rose-tinted spectacles! LOL Oh I dunno, I feel her pain. I can't watch any film with Roger Moore in it. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
RE: SMC Pentax-FA 35mm f/2 V's Tamron 28-75mm XR Di
Hi Doug I like Docking (but think its displayed with errors on my monitor) and Exit. thanks for showing it Markus -Original Message- From: Doug Brewer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 7:57 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: SMC Pentax-FA 35mm f/2 V's Tamron 28-75mm XR Di Here is a small gallery of shots taken with the FA35/2. It's a very nice lens and makes a great walkarounder on the istD. http://www.alphoto.com/recent/page1.htm
RE: One from my first roll in the MX
-Original Message- From: John Celio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Cool! I love abstract forms. What was that, a handrail? John, It is a handrail, on some steps in the foyer of the building I work in. Glad you liked it :-) -- Peter Williams
Re: SMC Pentax-FA 35mm f/2 V's Tamron 28-75mm XR Di
Here is a small gallery of shots taken with the FA35/2. It's a very nice lens and makes a great walkarounder on the istD. Quite impressive, was this one shot directly with the sun in the frame: http://www.alphoto.com/recent/reddoo.htm John
RE: One from my first roll in the MX
-Original Message- From: David Savage [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Really nice. I'm kind of partial to this type of industrial abstract image. Thanks David :-) Me too, polished metal always seems such a treat in BW. -- Peter Williams
RE: PESO: Godfrey
-Original Message- From: John Celio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newpixel.net/special/godfrey.html That's a good look :-) -- Peter Williams
Re: PESO: Gotcha - Jerusalem, and a little rant
I totally agree with Shel here. Almost everything done to an image on a computer has it's parallell in the film world. The big convenience with digital is that the magic can be perfomed in a normally lit room, and with an undo function. :-) Personally I shoot raw files with muted in-camera settings, so they always have to be developed into TIFFs or JPEGs for sharing. Jostein. - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 2:20 AM Subject: RE: PESO: Gotcha - Jerusalem, and a little rant Every photo you see here has been processed on a computer and even the color pics have been adjusted. Is there really so great a difference between adding a hint of tone to a BW photo and adding saturation to color, or enhancing certain areas of a photograph? Or is a hint of sepia any different than shooting on super saturated films like Velvia or Ultra Color and all the rest that have built into them color manipulation, and are as far from reality in one direction as a straight BW print is in the other? No one complains (at least not very loudly or very often) about the color manipulation these films provide. Nor do I hear a peep when the digi cam users say that they've set their cameras to enhance contrast, saturate colors, and so on. I guess if the manipulation is in color and if it's digital it's not quite the same thing as converting to BW My guess is that had someone shot this originally in BW and made a silver gelatin print which had been toned, no one would say a word about process or whether it should have been shot in color or not. But what the hell do I know ... I'm lost in the past, don't shoot digital, process my own BW negative film, use a darkroom, and use old fashioned cameras. Clearly (and I say this without sarcasm), I am pretty much out of touch with contemporary photography. Shel [Original Message] From: Markus Maurer Beside (maybe) tilting a bit I would not change anything in Josteins picture, certainly not the colors. It is already very good. Do we really have to process every photo on the computer nowadays?
Re: PESO: Gotcha - Jerusalem
Cotty wondered; http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/cat/2213/display/2790694 I like it. Maybe mono? Thanks mate. I tried mono, and it didn't appeal to me. Like Shel thinks BW, I'm stuck thinking in colour, I think. :-) Jostein
*ist-D underexposing - off for repair
I dropped my *ist-D off for repair today at the local Pentax distributor. Yesterday I was taking photos at a wedding and all of them, except the first two, were underexposed by a couple of stops. I'd had this sort of trouble before when using flash and also a couple of weekends ago shooting race cars in bright sunlight and wasn't really sure whether it was a camera fault or not, but yesterday tipped the balance. The repair guy didn't seem the least surprised when I explained the fault and was confident that it could be fixed so I'm assuming it is a known problem. He didn't even bother asking any questions - I just showed him the histograms on the display and explained that I was shooting on full auto and that was that. Unfortunately the camera is well out of warranty so I have no idea how much it will cost to fix. I'm hoping it is some sort of firmware reset and will cost nothing, but that is being fairly optimistic. Fortunately the wedding shots are salvageable, and in fact most of the time I was shooting BW using an MX and 77LTD so the day was far from a disaster. For anyone who wonders whether the image size in the finder is really that important try swapping from a zoom on the *ist-D to a fast prime on an MX and back for a couple of hours and see if you change your mind. FWIW, when I had the problems using TTL flash I found that the AF400FTZ would screw most shots up while an AF280T using a more primitive TTL was fine. Regards, Paul Ewins Melbourne, Australia
Re: PESO -- You are what you eat.
Graywolf wrote: The derogatorily term turkey is a corruption of turnkey and has to do with prison guards in merry old England and not birds. However your pun was understood. If I may, that assumption (a corruption of turnkey) turns out to not be true. Back in the Greek and Roman days, what was later to be called a Guinea fowl and eventually our turkey, was called Meleagris. Some confusion exists because there are several varieties of Guinea fowl, some frrom Africa as well. The Guinea fowl name came from the fact that this genus (Meleagris galloparo) was originally imported to Portugal from New Guinea, which was a Turkish territory back then. Over time, the bird's name became commonly known as a Turkey. How long the North American turkey was here, and from where it came specifically, I don't know, but the above history is true. keith Now why is it can I never seem to remember anything useful? graywolf Peter J. Alling wrote: My strange sense of humor is all. Due to an accident of history this native American Bird is called a Turkey. A term of derision in American English, due to the domesticated variety of turkey's supposed stupidity, is to call someone a Turkey, Then there is the statement in the true but not necessarily important category You are what you eat. [...]
Re: MX OUtlook Express Question
that is an OE problem, not a Windows problem. Herb... - Original Message - From: Markus Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 4:13 AM Subject: RE: MX OUtlook Express Question Oulooks database should be compressed often, because it starts corrupting its files after a certain size is reached. Maybe it's time for Thunderbird?
Re: 1st Day of Spring in Eastern Massachusetts
About 10 miles NE of Boston About 30 miles SE of Boston, on a typical late winter / early spring day (from an old PUG entry) - http://pug.komkon.org/99apr/FRZNSWMP.html Topical, but not tropical... Fred
Re: P67 fisheye specs
monorails don't usually have a focal plane shutter. unfortunately. best, mishka On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:54:06 -0600, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Mishka Subject: Re: P67 fisheye specs tonight i've been playing with a speed graphic and an arsat fisheye. it seems it would make a nice full frame 4x5 fisheye, except (1) the lenshade has to be filed off and (2) the bed shows in the picture. P67 seems more promising since it does not have the shade and its coverage should be pretty close to 9cm. i could probably ask s.k.grimes to build a mount for it from a blank board and a short tube. but i would also need to somehow remove the bed from the view. not sure how to do that without butchering the camera. also, i am not sure if the weight of that lens is too much for the front standard. just a thought. This would be better approached using a fairly robust view camera. Find a dead 6x7 body, and take the lens mount from it. Drill a lens board out to fit, screw the body flange to it and Bob's yer Uncle. William Robb
Re: PESO: Gotcha - Jerusalem, and a little rant
frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:25:57 -0500, John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip My wife, for example, won't watch a BW movie;snip Wow! That's a pretty extreme position to take. She can't watch Casablanca? To Kill a Mockingbird? Raging Bull? A Hard Day's Night?! They showed that at a theatre here in Pittsburgh last summer. I'd never seen it before and was really knocked out by how good a *film* it is! -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: One from my first roll in the MX
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I joined this list after buying an MX and std lens. Today I got back the negs and scans from a test roll of film. My first roll of mono film in 20 plus years. http://www.fotoweek.com/galleries/showimage.php?i=1206c=511 Looks like it works :-) Nice shot there! What lens did you use? -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
*istDS ICC color profile
Does anyone have such a thing? I've scoured the 'net a bit but haven't come up with much specifically for the DS. Thanks -Cory * * Cory Papenfuss* * Electrical Engineering candidate Ph.D. graduate student * * Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University * *
Re: PESO: Gotcha - Jerusalem
Thanks, Paul. Now that you mention it, I don't understand how I could have overlooked the tilt myself. I don't agree about the cropping...:-) Cheers, Jostein - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 10:55 PM Subject: Re: PESO: Gotcha - Jerusalem Fun pic, good grab. I'd rotate it to straighten a central vertical, then crop it tighter. But others may not agree. Paul Not a shooting style I'm familiar with. Any and all comments are most welcome. http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/cat/2213/display/2790694 Thanks for looking. Jostein
Re: PAW: My Baby Girl
Sorry, I moved it. Someone (not on this list) left a stupid comment, and I didn't want my daughter to see it, so I deleted the photo and then uploaded it again. It's here now: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3178492 On Mar 19, 2005, at 10:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is what i get for waiting to late to answer Paws. No pic available :-( Dave Dont know why,its a lovely portrait. Nice lighting and i like the light twinle in her eyes. Dave
Re: *istDS ICC color profile
On 21 Mar 2005 at 7:40, Cory Papenfuss wrote: Does anyone have such a thing? I've scoured the 'net a bit but haven't come up with much specifically for the DS. In camera produced image files conform to either sRGB or AdobeRGB CS (dependant upon menu setting), converted RAW file CS profiles are dependent upon the settings and capabilities of the conversion utility. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: OT: Pantone Color Vision Spyder
Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just received this offer from Pantone. I've had the Color Vision Spyder for several years find it well worth what I spent for it. Their closeout price is $77 USD!!! If you're serious about getting your monitor and print agreeing in color, this is one way to achieve that end (@ a very cheap price!!!) http://www.pantone.com/products/products.asp?idArea=91 Thanks ken. Just ordered one :) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: SMC Pentax-FA 35mm f/2 V's Tamron 28-75mm XR Di
Am I the only one struggling to find one? On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 01:56:38 -0500, Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is a small gallery of shots taken with the FA35/2. It's a very nice lens and makes a great walkarounder on the istD. http://www.alphoto.com/recent/page1.htm On Mar 6, 2005, at 5:19 PM, John Whittingham wrote: All opinions much appreciated. I currently have an unhealthy interest in enabling myself with an FA 35mm f/2, however I have a Tamron 28-75 XR Di f/2.8 which appears to perform very well. Do you think I should be content with the Tamron or pursue the FA 35mm? Does anyone have both that could offer some insight? I've read plenty of tests on the Tamron but only one on the FA that was just opinion without any MTF score or other information. http://shutterbug.com/test_reports/1100sb_pentax Does anyone have a link they could point me to for the FA 35mm f/2 test? John
Re: *istDS ICC color profile
In camera produced image files conform to either sRGB or AdobeRGB CS (dependant upon menu setting), converted RAW file CS profiles are dependent upon the settings and capabilities of the conversion utility. Yes... I know. I'm shooting RAW and the raw conversion utility I'm using (ufraw, based on dcraw) support input ICC colormap files. That's dependent on the specific model of camera. I can use a D70's, but I'd rather have one specifically for the *istDS. -Cory * * Cory Papenfuss* * Electrical Engineering candidate Ph.D. graduate student * * Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University * *
Re: *istDS ICC color profile
On 21 Mar 2005 at 8:07, Cory Papenfuss wrote: Yes... I know. I'm shooting RAW and the raw conversion utility I'm using (ufraw, based on dcraw) support input ICC colormap files. That's dependent on the specific model of camera. I can use a D70's, but I'd rather have one specifically for the *istDS. Then I'd suggest you either use the D70's (which I wouldn't expect would be a good match), get yourself a target and make the profile yourself or employ some one to build one for you. I've never seen one for DL. Do you have a specific reason for utilizing ufraw for your conversions? Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: SMC Pentax-FA 35mm f/2 V's Tamron 28-75mm XR Di
Am I the only one struggling to find one? No, I'm in the same position. John -- Original Message --- From: Quasi Modo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:05:18 +1000 Subject: Re: SMC Pentax-FA 35mm f/2 V's Tamron 28-75mm XR Di Am I the only one struggling to find one? On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 01:56:38 -0500, Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is a small gallery of shots taken with the FA35/2. It's a very nice lens and makes a great walkarounder on the istD. http://www.alphoto.com/recent/page1.htm On Mar 6, 2005, at 5:19 PM, John Whittingham wrote: All opinions much appreciated. I currently have an unhealthy interest in enabling myself with an FA 35mm f/2, however I have a Tamron 28-75 XR Di f/2.8 which appears to perform very well. Do you think I should be content with the Tamron or pursue the FA 35mm? Does anyone have both that could offer some insight? I've read plenty of tests on the Tamron but only one on the FA that was just opinion without any MTF score or other information. http://shutterbug.com/test_reports/1100sb_pentax Does anyone have a link they could point me to for the FA 35mm f/2 test? John --- End of Original Message ---
Re: *istDS ICC color profile
Then I'd suggest you either use the D70's (which I wouldn't expect would be a good match), get yourself a target and make the profile yourself or employ some one to build one for you. I've never seen one for DL. Do you have a specific reason for utilizing ufraw for your conversions? If necessary, I will have to do that. Apparently Nikon provides one for the D70 in their software, but I haven't seen one from Pentax. I just figured that someone here may have found one. The reason I use ufraw for my conversions is that I do not use Windows and do not own a Mac. I use Linux for my primary OS, and dcraw/ufraw are open-source. They also happen to provide extremely good quality results. Without the correct calibration profile for the camera, however, they're not as accurate as they could be. -Cory * * Cory Papenfuss* * Electrical Engineering candidate Ph.D. graduate student * * Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University * *
Re: PESO: Gotcha - Jerusalem
On 21/3/05, Jostein, discombobulated, unleashed: Now that you mention it, I don't understand how I could have overlooked the tilt myself. FWIW tilt in a pic like this adds character. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PESO: Gotcha - Jerusalem
Frank, In the 50's, all of us kids played WAR. John Wayne was a box office hero in numerous war stories. My dad served in WWII and my uncle Bill was off in the Korean war. By the time we got to the late 60's, it was the Vietnam era... and I didn't want to play war anymore. We all grew up just fine. They will too. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 22:42:04 -0500, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 21:54:36 +0100, Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not a shooting style I'm familiar with. Any and all comments are most welcome. http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/cat/2213/display/2790694 Thanks for looking. Jostein Hmmm... I don't know what others think (as I have yet to read the other comments), but I find this a very disturbing photo, especially given where it was taken. I'm hoping that this was a toy gun, but even if it was, given what we in North America are presented with on the news WRT violence and terrorism in Jerusalem and Israel, if kids are playing with guns, I find that very disquieting. And, of course, if it's a real gun, presuming that this young man is carrying it for protection, the fact that he's pointing it at people and making light of it is an even scarier proposition. I think what bothers me even more is the laughing friend to his immediate right. The third young man, apparently oblivious to it all, separated slightly from the other two, is a very interesting image as well - does he just not notice, doesn't he care, or is violence and gunplay so commonplace that it's all meaningless to him. Don't get me wrong, Jostein, this is a very powerful image, and a terrific (if depressing) photo. Whether playing with toys or dead serious, it scares the hell out of me one way or the other. Your photo certainly touched a nerve, and that's a good thing. Very strong image!! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: PESO foggy harbour
Excellent shot, outstanding! Congrats --- Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good evening every one! I developed my first batch of slides yesterday! (a hundred and fifty dollars! @#^% ) Here is one of the best ones (in my opinion). http://www.photosynth.ca/photo/f/boatsea-gulls.html Taken with my P3n and some no-name screw mount 28mm. All comments appreciated (even the ones I don't get around to relying to ;-\ ). Francis P.S. In case you were wondering this is a REAL photo, no post processing (aside from dusting off the hair balls and trying to get the colors to match the slide (hopeless)) Albano Garcia Photography Graphic Design http://www.albanogarcia.com.ar http://www.flaneur.com.ar __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Sign up for Fantasy Baseball. http://baseball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/
Re: PESO Save the whale
Thanks Dave --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sharp and great colours. Nice one Albano Dave It's an ice cream shop, maybe the bizarrest (it's an sculpture handmade with concrete)... Enjoy: http://www.flaneur.com.ar/20.htm Regardos, = Albano Garcia Photography Graphic Design http://www.albanogarcia.com.ar http://www.flaneur.com.ar __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 Albano Garcia Photography Graphic Design http://www.albanogarcia.com.ar http://www.flaneur.com.ar __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
Re: PESO: Gotcha - Jerusalem
Cool shot, I like composition and light, and very fresh, relaxed facial expressions. Congrats Albano --- Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not a shooting style I'm familiar with. Any and all comments are most welcome. http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/cat/2213/display/2790694 Thanks for looking. Jostein Albano Garcia Photography Graphic Design http://www.albanogarcia.com.ar http://www.flaneur.com.ar __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: 1st Day of Spring in Eastern Massachusetts
Hi, Lovely picture. I get really sick of going to Boston. We lived there for a year in the 90's and we had a small pond in Arlington heights which looked just the same in the winter. The winter was by the way really nice with white snow and fantastic blue skies. Cheers, Ronald About 10 miles NE of Boston http://www.hemenway.com/1stDayofSpring-05/pages/TwistedTree.htm isDS with 43mm Limited
Re: PAW: My Baby Girl
Thanks Dave. I wish the camera position was slightly higher, but hindsight is 20/20. Next time. Paul Sorry, I moved it. Someone (not on this list) left a stupid comment, and I didn't want my daughter to see it, so I deleted the photo and then uploaded it again. It's here now: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3178492 On Mar 19, 2005, at 10:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is what i get for waiting to late to answer Paws. No pic available :-( Dave Dont know why,its a lovely portrait. Nice lighting and i like the light twinle in her eyes. Dave
Re: PESO: Gotcha - Jerusalem, and a little rant
On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:41:13 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]: regarding http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/cat/2213/display/2790694 I'd like to see this in BW, or with a slight sepia tone. People shoot too much color, perhaps because it's what they're used to seeing, or because it's simpler to do (esp in digital), and a lot of photos are diminished by that apoproach. A ~good~ thoughful BW conversion may lift this from the ordinary into something a bit more interesing and with greater impact. I disagree with you here on a couple of points: First, I don't think *this* image is diminished by being in colour; there are few colours here with the clothes being BW and the other elements being muted colours. Second, I think the application of *sepia* generally makes the finished product about the process rather than what was going on in front of the lens. The original picture then becomes an ingredient in the production of a piece of what the producer considers artwork; I think in this case the image is about sharing something the photographer saw and a moment he experienced. (For that reason, the tilt doesn't bother me.) The process is one of the many aspects of BW photography. The art of printing goes hand in hand with it. Ansel Adams reprinted many of his famous photographs later on in life in vastly different styles. Color photography typically is about the moment. When I shoot color, I want the print to look just like the neg (or the chrome). I think most folks fells this way. If this is the case, then the photo is better served by being color. Should the photographer choose to interpret the negative, then monochrome would definitely be the way to go. As far as personal taste, I agree with Shel. Third, I think that bw vs. colour *is* largely a matter of taste and opinion, and I disagree with your opinion that people shoot too much color although I agree that the reason for all this colour shooting is that they see in colour. To me, for instance, colour photographs are more interesting to look at than bw ones because they are more real. To hold my We can just go look at the real thing. Taking a color snapshot is often good enough for the scrapbook and to serve our memories. attention, a black white photograph has to be REALLY compelling in its content (some people on this list consistently shoot such compelling monochrome images.) Once again, this is about interpretation, not accurate documentation. My own history with black white may explain my prejudices in this area: Although I have taken a few bw photographs because I thought the subject matter needed bw, most of the bw I have ever shot was done in that medium either because I was restricted by my budget (years ago) or because I was restricted by the end use. I've read somewhere the suggestion that bw photography would've never come up if the first technology to produce photographs had produced colour; frankly I suspect this is true. It started I'm going to disagree. I've had the opportunity to use color film since I first touched a camera. As a child I was always drawn to monochrome. My parents were always upset with me when I'd take BW photographs, because they always wanted to see the pretty colors. There are quite a few photographers (some of them here) that have *chosen* to work in BW. Art changes. And artists are typically very good at seeking out mediums that work for them. Besides, people are ingenuous. We would have figured out how to fix that color problem eventually. g out as a limitation of the technology! like coarse grain in low-light shots, and sometimes reintroducing the limitation serves no purpose. Of course, sometimes it DOES serve a purpose ... I introduced a limitation for myself a while back and shot with one camera and one lens for about 6 months. I've got a pretty good idea of what that lens will capture before I ever bring the camera to my eye. Of course, my other lenses are completely alien to me these days...g But, this photograph we're discussing has a pretty clear content; isn't cluttered with any brightly-coloured distractions; doesn't need any artistic help like conversion to black and white or (shudder) sepia or (retch) infrared or cross-processing or (scream!) semi-conversion to negative to improve it. It's a slice of life and as such, is great just the way it is. IMO. Of course, I am in no way suggesting that your opinion (people shoot too much color ... ) is not valid but since I hold an opposing opinion, I thought I would share it. ERNR On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 22:50:34 -0500, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 21:33:49 -0500, Peter J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some later films, notably of the film noire genre of starting in the late 30's into the mid 50's, eschewed color for artistic reasons. Certainly, even into the 70's and
Re: SMC Pentax-FA 35mm f/2 V's Tamron 28-75mm XR Di
Get your name on the BH waiting list. When they have enough demand, they'll get some lenses in stock. The price is $299, brand new. Paul Am I the only one struggling to find one? No, I'm in the same position. John -- Original Message --- From: Quasi Modo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:05:18 +1000 Subject: Re: SMC Pentax-FA 35mm f/2 V's Tamron 28-75mm XR Di Am I the only one struggling to find one? On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 01:56:38 -0500, Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is a small gallery of shots taken with the FA35/2. It's a very nice lens and makes a great walkarounder on the istD. http://www.alphoto.com/recent/page1.htm On Mar 6, 2005, at 5:19 PM, John Whittingham wrote: All opinions much appreciated. I currently have an unhealthy interest in enabling myself with an FA 35mm f/2, however I have a Tamron 28-75 XR Di f/2.8 which appears to perform very well. Do you think I should be content with the Tamron or pursue the FA 35mm? Does anyone have both that could offer some insight? I've read plenty of tests on the Tamron but only one on the FA that was just opinion without any MTF score or other information. http://shutterbug.com/test_reports/1100sb_pentax Does anyone have a link they could point me to for the FA 35mm f/2 test? John --- End of Original Message ---
Re: PESO: Gotcha - Jerusalem
Cotty opined: FWIW tilt in a pic like this adds character. Sometimes. But pictures like this -- with strong verticals -- are usually more pleasing without the tilt. I wouldn't want to say for sure without seeing it both ways. Paul On 21/3/05, Jostein, discombobulated, unleashed: Now that you mention it, I don't understand how I could have overlooked the tilt myself. FWIW tilt in a pic like this adds character. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
OT Stop bath
Anybody know anything about shipping stop bath. BH won't do it just now. Adorama doesn't seem to have a problem letting me add it to my cart. The Camera Store says it must be shipped as a hazardous material and will incur additional charges. Is this something new, or I have I been out of the loop for too long? -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com
Re: SMC Pentax-FA 35mm f/2 V's Tamron 28-75mm XR Di
Hi Paul I already have, need some more participation :) John -- Original Message --- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:36:00 + Subject: Re: SMC Pentax-FA 35mm f/2 V's Tamron 28-75mm XR Di Get your name on the BH waiting list. When they have enough demand, they'll get some lenses in stock. The price is $299, brand new. Paul Am I the only one struggling to find one? No, I'm in the same position. John -- Original Message --- From: Quasi Modo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:05:18 +1000 Subject: Re: SMC Pentax-FA 35mm f/2 V's Tamron 28-75mm XR Di Am I the only one struggling to find one? On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 01:56:38 -0500, Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is a small gallery of shots taken with the FA35/2. It's a very nice lens and makes a great walkarounder on the istD. http://www.alphoto.com/recent/page1.htm On Mar 6, 2005, at 5:19 PM, John Whittingham wrote: All opinions much appreciated. I currently have an unhealthy interest in enabling myself with an FA 35mm f/2, however I have a Tamron 28-75 XR Di f/2.8 which appears to perform very well. Do you think I should be content with the Tamron or pursue the FA 35mm? Does anyone have both that could offer some insight? I've read plenty of tests on the Tamron but only one on the FA that was just opinion without any MTF score or other information. http://shutterbug.com/test_reports/1100sb_pentax Does anyone have a link they could point me to for the FA 35mm f/2 test? John --- End of Original Message --- --- End of Original Message ---
Re: OT Stop bath
I don't know what kind of shipping restrictions there might be on stop bath. I just buy it at my local camera store. It's not very expensive. However, if you're in a rural area, I suppose that could be a problem. If I run out of stop bath, I just shorten my development time by about 10 seconds and use a 30-second water bath after the developer. The results seem identical, and the fixer life seems to be about the same. Paul Anybody know anything about shipping stop bath. BH won't do it just now. Adorama doesn't seem to have a problem letting me add it to my cart. The Camera Store says it must be shipped as a hazardous material and will incur additional charges. Is this something new, or I have I been out of the loop for too long? -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com
RE: OT Stop bath
I've been hearing about this for at least a year or so now, maybe two. It's fascinating how the three stores are so different in they way they treat the product. Shel [Original Message] From: Scott Loveless Anybody know anything about shipping stop bath. BH won't do it just now. Adorama doesn't seem to have a problem letting me add it to my cart. The Camera Store says it must be shipped as a hazardous material and will incur additional charges. Is this something new, or I have I been out of the loop for too long?
Re: OT Stop bath
Stop bath itself is made up of acetic acid, and an indicator to show when it's depleted. It's usually shipped in concentrated form, so I suppose it could be a bit hazardous if damaged/dropped. Not sure where that line is drawn, though. -Mat On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:44:04 -0500, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anybody know anything about shipping stop bath. BH won't do it just now. Adorama doesn't seem to have a problem letting me add it to my cart. The Camera Store says it must be shipped as a hazardous material and will incur additional charges. Is this something new, or I have I been out of the loop for too long?
RE: 1st Day of Spring in Eastern Massachusetts
Hi Fred lovely, but you could present it a little bigger :-) What's your general opinion on that zoom beside the weight? greetings Markus -Original Message- From: Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 12:47 PM To: Jim Hemenway Subject: Re: 1st Day of Spring in Eastern Massachusetts About 10 miles NE of Boston About 30 miles SE of Boston, on a typical late winter / early spring day (from an old PUG entry) - http://pug.komkon.org/99apr/FRZNSWMP.html Topical, but not tropical... Fred
Re: PESO -- You are what you eat.
I did not say the name of the bird was a corruption of turnkey. I said the derogatory term was. Anyone who has read about English prisons of the 1600-1700's can easily understand why it became so. Despite popular opinion there is really no connection between the bird (etiology as you described) and the insult (etiology as I described) except that they are spelled and pronounced the same. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Keith Whaley wrote: Graywolf wrote: The derogatorily term turkey is a corruption of turnkey and has to do with prison guards in merry old England and not birds. However your pun was understood. If I may, that assumption (a corruption of turnkey) turns out to not be true. Back in the Greek and Roman days, what was later to be called a Guinea fowl and eventually our turkey, was called Meleagris. Some confusion exists because there are several varieties of Guinea fowl, some frrom Africa as well. The Guinea fowl name came from the fact that this genus (Meleagris galloparo) was originally imported to Portugal from New Guinea, which was a Turkish territory back then. Over time, the bird's name became commonly known as a Turkey. How long the North American turkey was here, and from where it came specifically, I don't know, but the above history is true. keith Now why is it can I never seem to remember anything useful? graywolf Peter J. Alling wrote: My strange sense of humor is all. Due to an accident of history this native American Bird is called a Turkey. A term of derision in American English, due to the domesticated variety of turkey's supposed stupidity, is to call someone a Turkey, Then there is the statement in the true but not necessarily important category You are what you eat. [...] -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 3/18/2005
Re: PESO: Gotcha - Jerusalem
Veitnam War: All of the blood, guts, mud, and misery; none of the glory. Everyone learned from it except seemingly GWB, jr. (Sorry, I could not resist the tagline) graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Bob Sullivan wrote: Frank, In the 50's, all of us kids played WAR. John Wayne was a box office hero in numerous war stories. My dad served in WWII and my uncle Bill was off in the Korean war. By the time we got to the late 60's, it was the Vietnam era... and I didn't want to play war anymore. We all grew up just fine. They will too. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 22:42:04 -0500, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 21:54:36 +0100, Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not a shooting style I'm familiar with. Any and all comments are most welcome. http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/cat/2213/display/2790694 Thanks for looking. Jostein Hmmm... I don't know what others think (as I have yet to read the other comments), but I find this a very disturbing photo, especially given where it was taken. I'm hoping that this was a toy gun, but even if it was, given what we in North America are presented with on the news WRT violence and terrorism in Jerusalem and Israel, if kids are playing with guns, I find that very disquieting. And, of course, if it's a real gun, presuming that this young man is carrying it for protection, the fact that he's pointing it at people and making light of it is an even scarier proposition. I think what bothers me even more is the laughing friend to his immediate right. The third young man, apparently oblivious to it all, separated slightly from the other two, is a very interesting image as well - does he just not notice, doesn't he care, or is violence and gunplay so commonplace that it's all meaningless to him. Don't get me wrong, Jostein, this is a very powerful image, and a terrific (if depressing) photo. Whether playing with toys or dead serious, it scares the hell out of me one way or the other. Your photo certainly touched a nerve, and that's a good thing. Very strong image!! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 3/18/2005
Cape Ann
North of Boston http://www.hemenway.com/CapeAnn/ isDS with various lenses Jim
Re: OT Stop bath
From: Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/03/21 Mon PM 02:44:04 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: OT Stop bath Anybody know anything about shipping stop bath. BH won't do it just now. Adorama doesn't seem to have a problem letting me add it to my cart. The Camera Store says it must be shipped as a hazardous material and will incur additional charges. Is this something new, or I have I been out of the loop for too long? Go to your local pharmacist or grocer and buy some spirit vinegar. Not malt. It's the same thing. mike -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com virus-checked by McAfee visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: One from my first roll in the MX
Superb. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I joined this list after buying an MX and std lens. Today I got back the negs and scans from a test roll of film. My first roll of mono film in 20 plus years. http://www.fotoweek.com/galleries/showimage.php?i=1206c=511 Looks like it works :-) -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 3/18/2005
Re: Re: PESO: Gotcha - Jerusalem
From: Graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/03/21 Mon PM 03:39:13 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO: Gotcha - Jerusalem Veitnam War: All of the blood, guts, mud, and misery; none of the glory. Everyone learned from it except seemingly GWB, jr. (Sorry, I could not resist the tagline) He wasn't there... (I couldn't resist, either) graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Bob Sullivan wrote: Frank, In the 50's, all of us kids played WAR. John Wayne was a box office hero in numerous war stories. My dad served in WWII and my uncle Bill was off in the Korean war. By the time we got to the late 60's, it was the Vietnam era... and I didn't want to play war anymore. We all grew up just fine. They will too. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 22:42:04 -0500, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 21:54:36 +0100, Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not a shooting style I'm familiar with. Any and all comments are most welcome. http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/cat/2213/display/2790694 Thanks for looking. Jostein Hmmm... I don't know what others think (as I have yet to read the other comments), but I find this a very disturbing photo, especially given where it was taken. I'm hoping that this was a toy gun, but even if it was, given what we in North America are presented with on the news WRT violence and terrorism in Jerusalem and Israel, if kids are playing with guns, I find that very disquieting. And, of course, if it's a real gun, presuming that this young man is carrying it for protection, the fact that he's pointing it at people and making light of it is an even scarier proposition. I think what bothers me even more is the laughing friend to his immediate right. The third young man, apparently oblivious to it all, separated slightly from the other two, is a very interesting image as well - does he just not notice, doesn't he care, or is violence and gunplay so commonplace that it's all meaningless to him. Don't get me wrong, Jostein, this is a very powerful image, and a terrific (if depressing) photo. Whether playing with toys or dead serious, it scares the hell out of me one way or the other. Your photo certainly touched a nerve, and that's a good thing. Very strong image!! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 3/18/2005 - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com virus-checked by McAfee visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: 1st Day of Spring in Eastern Massachusetts
Ronald: Thanks! You're right about the blue skies, hardly any yesterday and none today. A weather forecast of Sunny and Clear has a whole different meaning here as opposed to the California and the rest of the southwest. Jim Ronald Arvidsson wrote: Hi, Lovely picture. I get really sick of going to Boston. We lived there for a year in the 90's and we had a small pond in Arlington heights which looked just the same in the winter. The winter was by the way really nice with white snow and fantastic blue skies. Cheers, Ronald About 10 miles NE of Boston http://www.hemenway.com/1stDayofSpring-05/pages/TwistedTree.htm isDS with 43mm Limited
RE: OT Stop bath
For BW film/paper ??? I have used vinager acid - that is acetic acid (diluted) for 30 years. You may be able to get this is any super merket or drug store! Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Scott Loveless [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 21. marts 2005 15:44 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: OT Stop bath Anybody know anything about shipping stop bath. BH won't do it just now. Adorama doesn't seem to have a problem letting me add it to my cart. The Camera Store says it must be shipped as a hazardous material and will incur additional charges. Is this something new, or I have I been out of the loop for too long? -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com
Re: Cape Ann
Those are all very nice. I feel like you're trying to impart a feeling of desolation, or obsolescence. Either way, or not at all, I love lighthouses and it's always nice to see good photographs of them. It wasn't until last year during our trip to Kittyhawk that I learned just how difficult they can be to photograph. Good work! On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:46:28 -0500, Jim Hemenway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: North of Boston http://www.hemenway.com/CapeAnn/ isDS with various lenses Jim -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com
(very) early FS
* P30t: a little bit of brassing but overall very good state * Ricoh KR-10x (same as XR-10 I think) Very good state * Pentax-A 28-80mm 3.5-4.5 OK state (had to glue foccusing ring) * SMCP-M 50mm 1.4 very good state. Focussing ring a bit soft but very useable * Tamron Adaptall2 28mm 2.5 OK state. With shade. * Tamron Adaptall 80-210mm Old design with A/M aperture selector. Good state. * Chinon 300mm 5.6 * A set of 3 Extension Tubes from Ricoh. These are manual ones. Any reasonable offer will be taken into account. Pics possible if wanted. Thibouille
Re: PESO: The Wall
Rick, Very nice pic, with the stone and barbed wire and wall art in the background. I can't tell what is hanging from the barbed wire, though, and it is thus a distraction. it's the flag of the former German Democratic Republic (AKA Eastern Germany). Thank you for your comment. Bedo.
Re: 1st Day of Spring in Eastern Massachusetts
Peter... thanks for the compliment. Jim Peter J. Alling wrote: Nice shot, I'm a sucker for this kind of picture if it's well done... Jim Hemenway wrote: About 10 miles NE of Boston http://www.hemenway.com/1stDayofSpring-05/pages/TwistedTree.htm isDS with 43mm Limited
Re: PESO: Godfrey
On Sunday, March 20, 2005, at 10:47PM, John Celio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From the NorCal PDML meet earlier this month, during lunch at that ethiopian restaurant: http://www.newpixel.net/special/godfrey.html Everyone else has been posting stuff lately, so I thought I'd join in on the fun. (: Details: MX, Tri-X 400, K 50mm 1.2, exposure not recorded. lol ... Well, you got my eyes fully open! ;-) I like it. :-) Godfrey
Re: OT Stop bath
Having a CDL and a HazMat endorsement I can tell you that small quanities are not legally considered hazardous. However, if someone can make a buck off of our ignorance they will. FreeStyle Photo does not (at least did not) charge a HazMat fee, but does ship via ground only. Or use white vinegar from the grocery store. Personally I use a water stop bath, but then you pretty much have to toss your hypo after a developing session. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Scott Loveless wrote: Anybody know anything about shipping stop bath. BH won't do it just now. Adorama doesn't seem to have a problem letting me add it to my cart. The Camera Store says it must be shipped as a hazardous material and will incur additional charges. Is this something new, or I have I been out of the loop for too long? -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 3/18/2005
Re: 1st Day of Spring in Eastern Massachusetts
Hi John: The lakes are just a little less frozen here, than up in the Marlboro area. I don't think that there's any in Boston itself. A nice remembrance photo, thanks. No blossoms here but some of the weeping willows are beginning to bud. Jim John Francis wrote: That looks just like the frozen lakes I used to see driving around the Marlboro/Framingham area. Here's a shot for you from last weekend, to remind you of what you left behind: http://jfwaf.com/PDML/Museum/images/Museum3.jpg Jim Hemenway mused: John: I know what you mean... and I still miss the Bay Area a little, even after 31 years. But then again, we don't have earthquakes! :-) Here's the other 1st Day of Spring from today, it was about 44F: http://www.hemenway.com/1stDayofSpring-05/pages/Fishermen.htm Jim John Francis wrote: Jim Hemenway mused: About 10 miles NE of Boston http://www.hemenway.com/1stDayofSpring-05/pages/TwistedTree.htm isDS with 43mm Limited B. I'm definitely glad I moved to California.
Re: One from my first roll in the MX
Very nice! I'm envious. I'm guessing you used the 50/1.7 that came with your camera. I really like the way you've captured the reflections on the edges of the metal. Wonderfully done. On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:47:34 -0500, Graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Superb. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I joined this list after buying an MX and std lens. Today I got back the negs and scans from a test roll of film. My first roll of mono film in 20 plus years. http://www.fotoweek.com/galleries/showimage.php?i=1206c=511 Looks like it works :-) -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 3/18/2005 -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com
Re: Re: PESO: Gotcha - Jerusalem
On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:44:13 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/03/21 Mon PM 03:39:13 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO: Gotcha - Jerusalem Veitnam War: All of the blood, guts, mud, and misery; none of the glory. Lots of good photojournalism. Not that it's ever worth it, but war does tend to make a photographer from time to time. Everyone learned from it except seemingly GWB, jr. (Sorry, I could not resist the tagline) He wasn't there... (I couldn't resist, either) Neither was Cassius Clay, but we don't bitch about him. This is rather politcally charged, don't you think? graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com
Re: PESO -- You are what you eat.
It sounds good. I'm not sure how to phrase the theme. Markus Maurer wrote: Hi Peter this looks more like an example of the language barrier than an exapmle of strange sense of humor. BTW, this would be a nice PUG theme, what do you think? greetings Markus My strange sense of humor is all. Due to an accident of history this native American Bird is called a Turkey. A -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: My Cotty worked!
To cotty doesn't exactly translate to build in my not so humble opinion... Cotty wrote: On 20/3/05, Don Sanderson, discombobulated, unleashed: http://www.donsauction.com/pdml/MyCotty.jpg It fits nicely on the ist-D too but I couldn't figure out how to take a shot of the D, with the D. ;-) Sorry I didn't record it for you Cotty but I said a couple 'naughty' words when I slipped. So far I have become a noun and a verb. I aspire to be an adjective of course, but Rome wasn't built in a day. Sorry - Rome wasn't Cottied in a day Good work Don, Gold Star for you :-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
big slides with lightbox
Is there a solution for printing pictures to large 8x10+ slides and then mounting them on some kind of lightbox for display on the wall so it looks presentable, is somebody selling something like that ? I would also like the possibility of changing the slides every now and then. I would love to buy large LCD display that would do the same thing but that would be too expensive. I remember that I saw something like that with a moving waterfall on the picture, I want the same thing but without movement. :) It should not cost more than $50-$100.
Re: PESO: The splendour and the misery of Berlin - thanks to all
I would like to thank to all who commented on my photo. I found it fascinating to see different opinions for different reasons, but that's the way it should be, IMO. So once again thanks, folks. Bedo.
Re: Re: 1st Day of Spring in Eastern Massachusetts
Hi Jim, Well that's exactly the weather we got where I am now, Uppsala , Sweden. Since I grew up in the far north, this time of the winter, we call it spring winter, its the best for going out on skis, picknick etc. And yes it has got quite a differerent meaning compared to California. I guess that one really appreaciate winter first when one goes outside, with proper clothing, and do things, today I had a several hour long ski trip, cross country. Still, your description makes me really nostalgic. Boston is a very nice place with lots of room (well maybe a bit crowded but..) for a lot of different people with a fantastic atmosphere. Cheers, Ronald Jim Hemenway Mon, 21 Mar 2005 08:17:16 -0800 Ronald: Thanks! You're right about the blue skies, hardly any yesterday and none today. A weather forecast of Sunny and Clear has a whole different meaning here as opposed to the California and the rest of the southwest. Jim Ronald Arvidsson wrote: Hi, Lovely picture. I get really sick of going to Boston. We lived there for a year in the 90's and we had a small pond in Arlington heights which looked just the same in the winter. The winter was by the way really nice with white snow and fantastic blue skies. Cheers, Ronald About 10 miles NE of Boston http://www.hemenway.com/1stDayofSpring-05/pages/TwistedTree.htm isDS with 43mm Limited
Re: My Cotty worked!
On 21/3/05, Peter J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: To cotty doesn't exactly translate to build in my not so humble opinion... I'll submit to that. Okay more of a buiddle - build and muddle :-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: OT Stop bath
On 21/3/05, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed: Anybody know anything about shipping stop bath. BH won't do it just now. Adorama doesn't seem to have a problem letting me add it to my cart. The Camera Store says it must be shipped as a hazardous material and will incur additional charges. Is this something new, or I have I been out of the loop for too long? What's this, a filter for Photoshlop ? ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PESO -- You are what you eat.
Keith Whaley wrote: Graywolf wrote: The derogatorily term turkey is a corruption of turnkey and has to do with prison guards in merry old England and not birds. However your pun was understood. If I may, that assumption (a corruption of turnkey) turns out to not be true. Back in the Greek and Roman days, what was later to be called a Guinea fowl and eventually our turkey, was called Meleagris. Some confusion exists because there are several varieties of Guinea fowl, some frrom Africa as well. The Guinea fowl name came from the fact that this genus (Meleagris galloparo) was originally imported to Portugal from New Guinea, which was a Turkish territory back then. Over time, the bird's name became commonly known as a Turkey. How long the North American turkey was here, and from where it came specifically, I don't know, but the above history is true. Sorry that's wrong. See: http://www.mass.gov/dfwele/dfw/dfw_turkey_learning_kit.htm#Q1 keith Now why is it can I never seem to remember anything useful? graywolf Peter J. Alling wrote: My strange sense of humor is all. Due to an accident of history this native American Bird is called a Turkey. A term of derision in American English, due to the domesticated variety of turkey's supposed stupidity, is to call someone a Turkey, Then there is the statement in the true but not necessarily important category You are what you eat. [...] -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
[New try] Early FS
* P30t: a little bit of brassing but overall very good state * Ricoh KR-10x (same as XR-10 I think) Very good state * Pentax-A 28-80mm 3.5-4.5 OK state (had to glue foccusing ring) * SMCP-M 50mm 1.4 very good state. Focussing ring a bit soft but very useable * Tamron Adaptall2 28mm 2.5 OK state. With shade. * Tamron Adaptall 80-210mm Old design with A/M aperture selector. Good state. * Chinon 300mm 5.6 * A set of 3 Extension Tubes from Ricoh. These are manual ones. Any reasonable offer will be taken into account. Pics possible if wanted. Thibouille
Compare 18-55 vs 16-45?
I've read alot of comments/recommendations to go to the 16-45 rather than the 18-55 over the past few months. Has anyone actually done a side-by-side comparison of the 2 lenses? I currently have the kit 18-55 lens with my DS, but I'm wondering what I'm missing (other than the obvious width), by not having the 16-45. Is is worth going out and spending the cash to upgrade? thanx dk
Re: PESO foggy harbour
Graywolf wrote: I am a sucker for boat photos, and this is a good one. I do not like how the gulls look like they are attached to the boat, but then I know how hard it is to get gulls to do exactly what you want. Francis, just like Graywolf I found the position of the gulls very unfortunate in connection to the ship. Otherwise it's perfect. Bedo.
Re: big slides with lightbox
Try http://www.photoglow.com/ Something I've been considering Kenneth Waller -Original Message- From: David Zaninovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mar 21, 2005 12:02 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: big slides with lightbox Is there a solution for printing pictures to large 8x10+ slides and then mounting them on some kind of lightbox for display on the wall so it looks presentable, is somebody selling something like that ? I would also like the possibility of changing the slides every now and then. I would love to buy large LCD display that would do the same thing but that would be too expensive. I remember that I saw something like that with a moving waterfall on the picture, I want the same thing but without movement. :) It should not cost more than $50-$100. PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com
Flickr vs pbase vs photo.net vs ??
Anyone have any recommendations or comments/concerns regarding any of the gallery hosting services? I've briefly looked at Flickr, pbase and photo.net. Any comments or recommendations with performance? Photo.net seems to have the most other tools (tutorials, critique forums, etc), but flickr is the cheapest (free). I'm on dial-up, so the ability to upload compressed files (like pBase has), is useful. thanx dk
Re: PESO -- You are what you eat.
Peter J. Alling wrote: Keith Whaley wrote: [...] The Guinea fowl name came from the fact that this genus (Meleagris galloparo) was originally imported to Portugal from New Guinea, which was a Turkish territory back then. Over time, the bird's name became commonly known as a Turkey. How long the North American turkey was here, and from where it came specifically, I don't know, but the above history is true. Sorry that's wrong. See: http://www.mass.gov/dfwele/dfw/dfw_turkey_learning_kit.htm#Q1 Wrong? All I see is a massive elaboration and coloration of most of my comments. The only thing that URL didn't address was my unoriginal thesis that the name came about as a result of the Portuguese importation from New Guinea, a territory of Turkey. For refutation of any of those contentions, you'll have to take it up with the authors of The Oxford Dictionary of English Etymology, The Oxford Universisty Press, London, the source I used. keith whaley keith Now why is it can I never seem to remember anything useful? graywolf Peter J. Alling wrote: My strange sense of humor is all. Due to an accident of history this native American Bird is called a Turkey. A term of derision in American English, due to the domesticated variety of turkey's supposed stupidity, is to call someone a Turkey, Then there is the statement in the true but not necessarily important category You are what you eat. [...]
Re: My Cotty worked!
Cotty wrote on 3/21/2005, 12:06 PM: On 21/3/05, Peter J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: To cotty doesn't exactly translate to build in my not so humble opinion... I'll submit to that. Okay more of a buiddle - build and muddle :-) or in geek speak: hack or more appropriately, kluge :-) -- Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Flickr vs pbase vs photo.net vs ??
On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:29:11 -0500, Dave Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone have any recommendations or comments/concerns regarding any of the gallery hosting services? I've briefly looked at Flickr, pbase and photo.net. Any comments or recommendations with performance? Photo.net seems to have the most other tools (tutorials, critique forums, etc), but flickr is the cheapest (free). Photo.net also has a free option. You may be limited to how much you can post, but photos submitted for critiques are not counted against your quota. Flickr.com was recently purchased by Yahoo. I wouldn't be surprised if they made some changes to the service. http://blog.flickr.com/flickrblog/2005/03/yahoo_actually_.html I'm on dial-up, so the ability to upload compressed files (like pBase has), is useful. thanx dk -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com
Re: My Cotty worked!
On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 08:58:37 +, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So far I have become a noun and a verb. I aspire to be an adjective of course, but Rome wasn't built in a day. Sorry - Rome wasn't Cottied in a day That sure is a Cottied magnifier. There now, feel better? -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com
Re: OT Stop bath
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I don't know what kind of shipping restrictions there might be on stop bath. I just buy it at my local camera store. It's not very expensive. However, if you're in a rural area, I suppose that could be a problem. If I run out of stop bath, I just shorten my development time by about 10 seconds and use a 30-second water bath after the developer. The results seem identical, and the fixer life seems to be about the same. Not that I do bw developing at all these days, but I've been wondering since back when I *did* do it -- as a point of interest, is there any variety of vinegar pure enough to substitute or to prepare a substitute? since it's effectively the same chemical? ERNR
Re: Re: PESO: Gotcha - Jerusalem
Quoting Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:44:13 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/03/21 Mon PM 03:39:13 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO: Gotcha - Jerusalem Veitnam War: All of the blood, guts, mud, and misery; none of the glory. Lots of good photojournalism. Not that it's ever worth it, but war does tend to make a photographer from time to time. *Takes* a few, too. Capa, Chapelle ... many, many others. Everyone learned from it except seemingly GWB, jr. (Sorry, I could not resist the tagline) He wasn't there... (I couldn't resist, either) Neither was Cassius Clay, but we don't bitch about him. This is rather politcally charged, don't you think? It will be more so when someone points out neither was William J. Clinton ... :-) (Before leaving it, a point of correction: GWB isn't a Jr.)
Re: Union Pacific Big Boy on the Move
Frank wrote: I remember now, you used to work for the railway, didn't you? I guess you'd know this stuff then... vbg That's right, I worked on CN and GO Transit locomotives for twelve years and a day (really), before I escaped to work at Ontario Hydro. Finally, day shift with weekends off! I used to bring my MX and tripod to the diesel shop sometimes. Wish I had somewhere to post the pix. Pat White
Re: OT Stop bath
On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 11:39:47 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not that I do bw developing at all these days, but I've been wondering since back when I *did* do it -- as a point of interest, is there any variety of vinegar pure enough to substitute or to prepare a substitute? since it's effectively the same chemical? ERNR I just got an email off-list about this. Basically, the understanding is that white vinegar (spirit not malt) is about 4-5% acetic acid. A 1+1 dilution with distilled water should produce the proper strength for use. It's much less complicated than overpaying to ship stop bath. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com
Re: OT Stop bath
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I don't know what kind of shipping restrictions there might be on stop bath. I just buy it at my local camera store. It's not very expensive. However, if you're in a rural area, I suppose that could be a problem. If I run out of stop bath, I just shorten my development time by about 10 seconds and use a 30-second water bath after the developer. The results seem identical, and the fixer life seems to be about the same. Not that I do bw developing at all these days, but I've been wondering since back when I *did* do it -- as a point of interest, is there any variety of vinegar pure enough to substitute or to prepare a substitute? since it's effectively the same chemical? ... and I see at least three people had already answered this question before I posted it! Thanks, all! (always feel stooopid when that happens ... )
Re: OT Stop bath
On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:07:48 +, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 21/3/05, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed: Anybody know anything about shipping stop bath. BH won't do it just now. Adorama doesn't seem to have a problem letting me add it to my cart. The Camera Store says it must be shipped as a hazardous material and will incur additional charges. Is this something new, or I have I been out of the loop for too long? What's this, a filter for Photoshlop ? ;-) Yep. But it doesn't work with C* hardware. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com
Re: OT Stop bath
Well it is an acid, which type are you getting. The most common is the same as acidic acid which is only concentrated vinegar, the other I know of is biodegradable citric acid based from Ilford. Maybe they'll ship the latter and not the former? Scott Loveless wrote: Anybody know anything about shipping stop bath. BH won't do it just now. Adorama doesn't seem to have a problem letting me add it to my cart. The Camera Store says it must be shipped as a hazardous material and will incur additional charges. Is this something new, or I have I been out of the loop for too long? -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: OT Stop bath
Quoting Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 11:39:47 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not that I do bw developing at all these days, but I've been wondering since back when I *did* do it -- as a point of interest, is there any variety of vinegar pure enough to substitute or to prepare a substitute? since it's effectively the same chemical? ERNR I just got an email off-list about this. Basically, the understanding is that white vinegar (spirit not malt) is about 4-5% acetic acid. A 1+1 dilution with distilled water should produce the proper strength for use. It's much less complicated than overpaying to ship stop bath. Rather wishing I'd known this several years ago, but oh well. You would lose the indicator that typically comes in stop bath, but I'm sure there's a workaround for that, too. Those nice indicator strips, maybe? Surely, not being liquid, those aren't hazardous :-) ERNR
Re: OT Stop bath
Scott Loveless wrote: On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:41:37 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/03/21 Mon PM 02:44:04 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: OT Stop bath Anybody know anything about shipping stop bath. BH won't do it just now. Adorama doesn't seem to have a problem letting me add it to my cart. The Camera Store says it must be shipped as a hazardous material and will incur additional charges. Is this something new, or I have I been out of the loop for too long? Go to your local pharmacist or grocer and buy some spirit vinegar. Not malt. It's the same thing. Really?!?!? How would one go about diluting it? mike Simple white vinegar is usually 5% out of the bottle, you shouldn't have to dilute it. -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: PESO -- You are what you eat.
The Domesticated turkey is in not related to the Guinea foul or imported from New Guinea, as you stated. it was: 1) Native to North and South America. 2.) Domesticated by the Aztecs. 3.) Brought to Iberia by the Conquistadors, 4.) Spread throughout Eurasia by trade and made it's way to England. 5.) Re-introduced to the New World by the English settlers after being renamed for various not particularly certain reasons the Turkey. You were totally wrong and you obviously didn't even read the section I quoted. The only part you got even close to right was how it was probably named. If I were grading you in College you'd get a F. I'd give you a lower one for arrogance but they don't get lower. Keith Whaley wrote: Peter J. Alling wrote: Keith Whaley wrote: [...] The Guinea fowl name came from the fact that this genus (Meleagris galloparo) was originally imported to Portugal from New Guinea, which was a Turkish territory back then. Over time, the bird's name became commonly known as a Turkey. How long the North American turkey was here, and from where it came specifically, I don't know, but the above history is true. Sorry that's wrong. See: http://www.mass.gov/dfwele/dfw/dfw_turkey_learning_kit.htm#Q1 Wrong? All I see is a massive elaboration and coloration of most of my comments. The only thing that URL didn't address was my unoriginal thesis that the name came about as a result of the Portuguese importation from New Guinea, a territory of Turkey. For refutation of any of those contentions, you'll have to take it up with the authors of The Oxford Dictionary of English Etymology, The Oxford Universisty Press, London, the source I used. keith whaley keith Now why is it can I never seem to remember anything useful? graywolf Peter J. Alling wrote: My strange sense of humor is all. Due to an accident of history this native American Bird is called a Turkey. A term of derision in American English, due to the domesticated variety of turkey's supposed stupidity, is to call someone a Turkey, Then there is the statement in the true but not necessarily important category You are what you eat. [...] -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: OT Stop bath
The whole point of a stop bath is to neutralize the development process with an acidic environment in order to save the fixer. When I went to all one shot development chemistry for film 22 years ago (more consistency that way), I dispensed with it for film entirely. The spirit vinegar works fine for stop bath with prints. I did that for years until I stopped making darkroom prints. Godfrey
