Re: OT: Publication!
I'm not sure but I believe there's been a book about coffee tables, which I'm sure would have included that coffee table book... frank theriault wrote: On 4/22/05, Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Awesome Frank. Now you can move on to your next project: a coffee table book! ;) Yes! And, it's going to have little legs that fold out so the book ~becomes~ a little coffee table. Or has that been done? vbg Thanks Gonz (and thanks to everyone else that I haven't specifically thanked). cheers, frank
Re: OT: Publication!
Kramer did the coffee table book, with fold out legs, on Seinfeld, cerca 1995. P. J. Alling wrote: I'm not sure but I believe there's been a book about coffee tables, which I'm sure would have included that coffee table book... frank theriault wrote: On 4/22/05, Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Awesome Frank. Now you can move on to your next project: a coffee table book! ;) Yes! And, it's going to have little legs that fold out so the book ~becomes~ a little coffee table. Or has that been done? vbg Thanks Gonz (and thanks to everyone else that I haven't specifically thanked). cheers, frank
Photographing Montana 1894-1928: The Life and Work of Evelyn Cameron
During the summer of 1968 I worked for Intermountain Shows, a travelling carnival in Montana. I was the manager of the Tilt-a-Whirl ride, and travelled throughout the state for the better part of the summer. I fell in love with the rural areas and small towns in the state. While traveling through the state with the carnival, we passed through the small town of Terry where I learned about Evelyn Cameron http://evelyncameron.com/evelyn.htm and had a chance to learn a little about her life and her photography. In 1990 Donna Lucey put together a book containing many of Evelyn's photographs. The book is titled Photographing Montana 1894-1928: The Life and Work of Evelyn Cameron. Strangely, were it not for Kevin Costner's recent movie, Open Range, I'd not have known about this book, as he mentioned it in an interview about the making of the movie. I found out about the book just a few weeks ago Today I received a beautiful used copy, a first edition, and can highly recommend it for anyone interested in the history of the area or with an interest in that period of American history. Amazon, I believe, has some reprints and soft cover editions, but you can go here http://tinyurl.com/c4ndc to find good used copies in hard cover. I love this book, and maybe some here will enjoy it as well. Shel
Re: OT: Calvin Hobbes
That´s one of my favorites too. My father says that he had three Calvins, so we answer that sure, that´s because we had that kind of father. Now I´ve entered the next step. My three Calvins have got that kind of father too. They´ve even got the same kind of father that the author, Watterson, had; a patent attorney. Poor kids... DagT På 23. apr. 2005 kl. 08.11 skrev John Francis: I finally found the Calvin Hobbes strip I'd been looking for. It's in Scientific Progress goes Boink (on page 23, for those Robert Rankin fans among us ...) Calvin: Dad, how come old photographs are always black and white? Didn't they have colour film back then? Dad: Sure they did. In fact those old photographs *are* in colour. It's just the *world* was black and white then. Calvin: Really? Dad: Yep. The world didn't turn color until sometime in the 1930s, and it was pretty grainy color for a while, too. Calvin: That's really weird. Dad: Well, truth is stranger than fiction. Calvin: But then why are old *paintings* in color? If the world was black and white, wouldn't artists have painted it that way? Dad: Not necessarily. A lot of great artists were insane. Calvin: But how could they have painted in color anyway? Wouldn't their paints have been shades of grey back then? Dad: Of course, but they turned colors like everything else did in the '30s. Calvin: So why didn't old black and white photos turn color too? Dad: Because they were color pictures of black and white, remember?
Re: GESO: From Argentina
On 22/4/05, Juan Buhler, discombobulated, unleashed: I went back to lurkerdom after a couple of very busy months. I left my job two weeks ago, and just started what will be six months of traveling and photography. I´m in Argentina right now, and wanted to share some pics. I´ve been posting once a day to my photoblog: http://photoblog.jbuhler.com All taken with ist D, and mostly FA35/2 or 16-45/4. Hi Juan, Nice pics as usual! Good luck in your travels. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Maybe they figured it out
On 22/4/05, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: You must be right. In a round-a-bout sorta way. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: New York Times DSLR article
On 22/4/05, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: Great letter, Jon! Pentax is the 'Apple' of the camera industry. I love it! g I tend to think of Pentax as the 'Pentax' of the camera industry. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
RE: OT: Journey of Man
http://www.bradshawfoundation.com/journey/ Very fascinating although very un-pentaxian :). It's entirely on-topic. Many of the descendants of those people settled in Japan where they learnt to make Pentax cameras for the benefit of their travelling companions who settled in other parts of the world. There is one thing that strikes me as particularly amazing. I've also seen something like this on TV in one of the popular science shows... So there was this volcano eruption that left order of 10,000 people on Earth. From these 10,000 the rest evolved... When I stop and think of it, it just amazes me. Don't you agree? the bottleneck caused by the migration across the Bab al Mendeb was even smaller. It amazes me to learn how often the human race was on the verge of extinction during its early history. Even within Africa, where the genetic diversity is greatest, it is still significantly less than for other related species such as chimpanzees and gorillas. This suggests that there were some spectacular population crashes back in the old days. You might enjoy the book which was the basis of that map, and probably also of the TV programme you saw: Out of Eden, by Stephen Oppenheimer. Bob
Re: OT: Journey of Man
On 23/4/05, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: I dunno about you guys (n gals) but I come from a comet :-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: New York Times DSLR article
På 23. apr. 2005 kl. 09.52 skrev Cotty: On 22/4/05, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: Great letter, Jon! Pentax is the 'Apple' of the camera industry. I love it! g I tend to think of Pentax as the 'Pentax' of the camera industry. Sure, but they do have a lot in common. The users have chosen not to follow the masses and advertising campaigns . They represent the independent users who like to make their own decisions (and mistakes) .-) DagT
Re: OT: older mac notebooks
On 22/4/05, Jon Glass, discombobulated, unleashed: 1. Pink screen. It's not that common, but sometimes, a Pismo will display in pink when waking the monitor from the screen saver. My wife's Pismo shows this, but mine doesn't. I had one display go bad on me, and had a backup ready to fit. That one is still working fine, and I have another spare waiting. They go for less than a couple of hundred bucks on US eBay (complete display with plastics, ready to fit). Just changing the LCD panel inside is not a problem either. PS - Here's something you might like to see, long before Apple decided to turn the logo 'the right way up' on the TiBooks, I did it to my Lombard: :-) http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/spare4.html What a hoot 2. Bad DVD drives. The model with the numbers 8080B on the bottom are the LG brand, and they tend to die. The Matshita drive, OTOH, seems to be solid. Swapping out a DVD drive mech from inside the plastics, again, no problem. 3. The Airport card that goes internal is rather rare _and_ expensive! About $100!!! Worse, it's the older b version not the newer, faster g. If this is important to you, you might want to consider a newer book. There's a few around. Same one's fit in the original iMac as well. US eBay again. 4. The batteries have a finite lifespan. If somebody wants to sell you a Pismo with original battery, do not believe them if they tell you it still holds a good charge. It won't. Unfortunately, batteries are about 1/3 the cost of a Pismo. The good side, as someone else mentioned, is that you can slap two batteries into the Pismo, and get five to six or more out of them, so long as they are new! Agree. I got a NewerTech 6600 mah battery last year and it's pretty amazing http://www.newertech.com/newer_bats.html HTH Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: OT: older mac notebooks
On 22/4/05, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: Apple's code names are often themed but don't follow any particular logic, and they get reused often on different projects. 101 might have been a reference to California Highway 101, which runs through Santa Clara Valley where Apple is located. Why it would be applicable to this particular laptop I couldn't tell you. of course, 101. thanks Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PESO: Another Small Gallery
On 22/4/05, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: Cotty asked if I had some pictures of my truck a while back. Now I do. Tech stuff: Shot on Fuji 400 print film in a Nikon F2s with a Nikkor SC 50mm f1.4 lens. Aperture and shutter speed unkown but would have been in the f/8 to f/11 range, and around 1/125 second or so. http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/truck/titan1.html Thanks Bill. Nice rig. Seems a very long bed, that standard? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PESO: Faringdon Folly
On 22/4/05, Rick Womer, discombobulated, unleashed: This is The Folly in Faringdon, Oxfordshire, UK on a beautiful June evening. It is a 100-foot hilltop tower that was built in 1935 by a local worthy, to provide employment to local craftsmen. It was restored several years ago and is occasionally open, but I've never been inside. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3302383 Nice light Rick. I've been up once, years ago. On a clear day you can see 4 counties is it? A couple of years ago, some bright spark put a rotating illuminated beacon on top for winter. Got the locals talking Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: The lure of the dark side ...
On 23/4/05, John Francis, discombobulated, unleashed: Without studying the manual, I don't know if there is a way of assigning the controls that I'd like; I certainly didn't like the way this one was set up (the finger wheel did nothing, and the rear thumb wheel was assigned to exposure compensation) - no access to program shift. Both wheels fully assignable. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: New York Times DSLR article
On 23/4/05, DagT, discombobulated, unleashed: Sure, but they do have a lot in common. The users have chosen not to follow the masses and advertising campaigns . They represent the independent users who like to make their own decisions (and mistakes) .-) And if I use Apples and Canons, how then? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Enablement Dilemma
Thank you for everyones's input, I've been off line for a while (my dsl connection was down). I'm still not sure which way to go. but somehow ii'm favouring the pentax partly because its a pentax :-) Patrick
Re: PESO: Faringdon Folly
Nice. If you hadn't given its history, I would have assumed it was a signal tower, built to enable messages to be passed on from one tower to the next by semaphore. They didn't survive the electric telegraph. John On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 03:32:43 +0100, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is The Folly in Faringdon, Oxfordshire, UK on a beautiful June evening. It is a 100-foot hilltop tower that was built in 1935 by a local worthy, to provide employment to local craftsmen. It was restored several years ago and is occasionally open, but I've never been inside. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3302383 Z-1p, FA 24-90, Kodak Elite 100; scanned, resized, contrast adjusted, and sharpened. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.10.2 - Release Date: 21/04/2005
Re: PESO: Faringdon Folly
On 23/4/05, John Forbes, discombobulated, unleashed: Nice. If you hadn't given its history, I would have assumed it was a signal tower, built to enable messages to be passed on from one tower to the next by semaphore. They didn't survive the electric telegraph. John, I woudn't bet on that in this part of the world Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Enablement Dilemma
Interetsting that the 16-45 does not vignette on full fram before you go down to 20mm. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 16:17:55 +0200, Patrick Genovese wrote: I see your point but the 17-35 will be the only lens i've got that will enable me to go wider than 24mm which means that at least for ultra wide shots film will be my only option. OTOH if the Pentax is a lot better than the Tamron i'll go for the Pentax. Patrick, I have the 16-45 and it works well on film cameras down to 20mm before it vignettes. So if you are happy with 20 on the Pentax compared to 17 on the Tamron go for the Pentax. Or if you are interested in a second hand FA20-35 f4 let me know, it hasn't been used on film or digital since I got the 16-45. Leon http://www.bluering.org.au http://www.bluering.org.au/leon
Re: A 35-70 question
Hi Fred, Fred wrote: The A 35-70/4 is a neat little lens, with a great macro function (it's one of the very few so-called macro zooms worthy of the name). It's my dedicated Saturday/Sunday garden tour lens (g) on a Super A. A little too much barrel distortion at the 35mm end is its only shortcoming. Well, its plasticky build may not be ideal, either, I literally _never_ call Fred up to the bar, but... plasticky? This is an all metal lens with a lot of glass in it... By my postal scale, it weighs a good 12 ½ ounces. Well, Keith, I guess it's all relative to what you're used to. Nearly all of my lenses are large, and/or fast, and/or built very solidly (I'm an old manual focus dinosaur), so the A 35-70/4 seems pretty light in comparison. (If I were still going to school, I could probably get phys ed credit just for lugging my lenses around - g.) I think the lightness (low resistance) of the focusing action might also contribute to my subjective impression of plasticky, too - I dunno. I do have to admit that the lens is tougher than these comments might indicate. Thanks for the comments in response. I will say it has among the smoothest focus ring actions I've ever felt, for a small zoom. I just looked at my lens list, and I note that I bought it from a list member and ended up having it CLA'd, during which time the repairman repaired the focus cam and pins. It was too sloppy... But after that, smooth as silk and a good performer indeed! I'm happy with it. After all, I did say, [...] and it does seem to be at least adequately sturdy - mine doesn't seem to be getting sloppy after being lugged around a lot (and banged around a few times, too). Fred keith whaley
Re: PAW: Caution Platform Reduced
Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! Taken at Broadview Subway Station, Toronto: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3301990size=lg I may show it's mate later, I may not. Your comments are most welcome. Frank, sometimes when I look at your work, I feel like I very much want to meet you in person to witness your sense of humor first hand. The view is quite broad :). Boris I do like it, Frank... But I'm puzzled by the Lizzárd with the cell phone. I suppose if I could read the small print under the Write Now ~ Right Now, it might make sense. As it is, it adds to the raised eyebrow feeling this engenders. :-) Good catch! keith
Re: From Argentina
Wow, man. You're good. You're *real* good. I'm gonna show your stuff to the guys at my camera shop. Daaamn. Sincerely, John Celio -- http://www.neovenator.com AIM: Neopifex Hey, I'm an artist. I can do whatever I want and pretend I'm making a statement. I went back to lurkerdom after a couple of very busy months. I left my job two weeks ago, and just started what will be six months of traveling and photography. I´m in Argentina right now, and wanted to share some pics. I´ve been posting once a day to my photoblog: http://photoblog.jbuhler.com All taken with ist D, and mostly FA35/2 or 16-45/4. Anyway--just saying hi. I´m still reading, but been a bit busy to post lately. Cheers, j
Re: PESO: Spring comes. Eventually.
- Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://oksne.net/paw/gryta.html Very nice mate. That ice?? And you call that spring?? LOL. Well yes... Spring comes at a very varying pace from place to place. Gryta is probably the last lake around here to come open because of it's location. It's a deep lake with steep shores, down in a narrow valley. Around the houses, spring flowers are popping up everywhere. They're probably my next photographic pursuit. :-) Thanks for looking, mate... :-) Cheers, Jostein
Re: PESO: Spring comes. Eventually.
Thanks Bruce, It's the first time in 15 years I've been down to that lake, even though it's quite close to home. I was amazed by the quality of the reflections; the surface was almost dead still. I think I might return there to do more reflection shots when summer comes a bit closer. Cheers, Jostein - Original Message - From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jostein pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 12:25 AM Subject: Re: PESO: Spring comes. Eventually. Hello Jostein, Most excellent work, as usual. An unusual composition for a reflection that is quite stunning. -- Best regards, Bruce Friday, April 22, 2005, 2:17:31 PM, you wrote: J A shot from today's stroll in the forest. J http://oksne.net/paw/gryta.html J All comments and critiques appreciated as usual. J Thanks for looking. J Jostein
Re: PESO: Spring comes. Eventually.
Thanks Frank. :-) Jostein - Original Message - From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 12:39 AM Subject: Re: PESO: Spring comes. Eventually. On 4/22/05, Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A shot from today's stroll in the forest. http://oksne.net/paw/gryta.html All comments and critiques appreciated as usual. Thanks for looking. Jostein Absolutely stunning, Jostein! I love everything about it. Great shot. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: PESO: Spring comes. Eventually.
Humble thanks, Boris. And you're right. This is my second spring this year. :-) It's still a bit early on here, but the fields are turning green fast now. Feels like a relief, really. The scents and the light... Sorry to hear about the hamsin attack. Hope the winds turn soon. Don't get sand in the *istD...:-) Cheers, Jostein - Original Message - From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://oksne.net/paw/gryta.html Jostein, you've been in the spring this year already :). Back in Russia we used to have a term early spring which I think would fit here... However here we're suffering from hamsins - sandy wind, +30 and above... So it is very refreshing to look at the work such as this... As usual, you're quite excellent :). Boris
Re: Super-Multi-Coated 35mm repair
Andre Langevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Dallman) wrote: Take it to a repairer - or, given the ready availability of the SMCT 35/3.5 second-hand at low prices, buy another one, as it will be cheaper than getting this one fixed. I just sold a 35/3.5 Super Tak on eBay. Got $65.00 for it. Mark Roberts What?! True. Of course, it did include the original hard case and was in pristine condition. Probably bought by a collector. Some guy in France, actually, so he had to pay $20.00 extra for air mail express shipping (per his request) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: New York Times DSLR article
On 4/23/05, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 22/4/05, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: Great letter, Jon! Pentax is the 'Apple' of the camera industry. I love it! g I tend to think of Pentax as the 'Pentax' of the camera industry. Actually, my motive for writing what I did was (and if you know Dave Pogue, you will understand) to appeal to his pro-Apple sentiments. By drawing a parallel I hope to get him sympathetic or more sympathetic to Pentax. :-) (Which happens to lack a Steve Jobs) -- -Jon Glass Krakow, Poland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PAW PESO - Sunken Houseboat
I've been sitting here, comparing everybody's comments with my expectations of the photo, and I really prefer the bigger image, as it creates the mood you are looking for. However, I also understand the desire for more boat--more detail on that derelict. :-) As I sat looking, I wondered if a vertical orientation would fill both demands. You could get closer, and get more detail, yet, still get all the sky and the water I don't know, it's just a thought, and a rather off-the-wall one at that... Personally, however, I like the big space in the photo... -- -Jon Glass Krakow, Poland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Journey of Man
Hi! On 23/4/05, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: I dunno about you guys (n gals) but I come from a comet :-) Where do you hide your second head, messier Startiblafast (spelling)? Boris
Re: is it a bubble?
the megapixel wars are still a factor in DSLRs. that is why the Olympus E-300 came out as an 8MP camera. most companies and analysts see the DSLR market completely saturating in under 2 years. there is that time to establish a market share. price wars are already beginning with Xmas DSLRs expected to street for $500or so. the *istDS is not going to be spec competitive by then. Sony and Panasonic have formally announced entering the DSLR market too. Herb - Original Message - From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 9:28 PM Subject: Re: is it a bubble? Canon is the real problem here. They introduce upgrades too fast, but it makes the others either react or lose market share. So far, most are losing market share, including Pentax. Actually it is potential market share that Pentax is losing to Canon by not responding faster.
Re: A 35-70 question
Hi, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Mon, 18 Apr 2005, Fred wrote: Not having had much autofocus experience, I've often wondered about the plusses and minuses of putting the motor in the body vs in the lens, batteries in the body vs the lens, etc. I've also wondered about the power zoom functionality (the huge contacts on the mount of the 80-200/2.8 smack of maybe too much current having to be transferred from body to lens - I dunno). Don't know about the others, but I know about the power zoom: it's no longer made, and that says it all to me. And what it says to yoy ??? For me it says just two words - cost savings. Personally I do not consider Powr Zoom function as obligatory, but there was nothing wrong with that either. Moderately useful bellswhistles feature. BR, Margus
Re: is it a bubble?
because when people talk about market share in the financial world, they are implying transfer of film DSLRs to digital. no-one expects anyone to make film SLRs in 2 years except dribs and drabs of the F6 and EOS-1 models. if Pentax can't maintain total SLR market share, it won't make as much money, even if it is selling more units. it costs more to design and make a DSLR and the profit margin much more subject to price erosion. that is why Nikon has sold a record number of SLRs, film and digital, in the last year and made less money from them. Herb - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 9:55 PM Subject: Re: is it a bubble? How could Pentax have lost DSLR market share? They went from zero to whatever they have now. And a lot of those buyers, probably the majority, were move ups from PS. They aren't ready for an upgrade yet. But they will be. Probably right around the time Pentax is ready to introduce one.
Re: L plate for *istD
i have to carry it a lot when i have a lot of other stuff in the backpack. i think the Canon is too large too, but it does things that no Pentax body can do, 4FPS with a decent sized buffer and 16MP. that outweighs the size gain. Herb... - Original Message - From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 10:40 PM Subject: Re: L plate for *istD Herb, your the first person I've come across who thought the D was too large. Weren't you saying a little while ago you were thinking of moving to Canon?
Re: From Argentina
John Celio wrote: Wow, man. You're good. You're *real* good. I'm gonna show your stuff to the guys at my camera shop. Daaamn. Sincerely, John Celio Yeah! What John said! I clicked on the URL, intending to see what the fuss was about, and ended up viewing all 75 picures! An excellent body of work, Mr. Buhler... Thanks for posting them! I'll look forward to more of your blog photos. keith whaley -- http://www.neovenator.com AIM: Neopifex Hey, I'm an artist. I can do whatever I want and pretend I'm making a statement. I went back to lurkerdom after a couple of very busy months. I left my job two weeks ago, and just started what will be six months of traveling and photography. I´m in Argentina right now, and wanted to share some pics. I´ve been posting once a day to my photoblog: http://photoblog.jbuhler.com All taken with ist D, and mostly FA35/2 or 16-45/4. Anyway--just saying hi. I´m still reading, but been a bit busy to post lately. Cheers, j
Re: Philly PDML July 9-10
As will I. Except for the lunch part. Who needs that? On 4/22/05, Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: lunch in a brewpub. Ooh, Nate will like that part... Amita -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com
Re: is it a bubble?
who says they are grabbing market share? selling as many as they can make isn't the same as selling as many as they ought to make. film SLR sales are dropping faster than expected for all manufacturers. film sales is dropping faster than expected too. i don't think there will be a medium format market left in 5 years, with the possible exception of Hasselblad, and i think that is a remote chance. a company with limited resources can't take too many risks, and spending a lot of money on the 645D in a rapidly shrinking market is doing that. Herb... - Original Message - From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 1:24 AM Subject: Re: is it a bubble? So the current Pentax approach - grab market share while you can, and worry about upgrades for that customer base later - seems sensible.
Re: PAW: Cliche
Very nice. A tiny bit more depth of field would make it perfect to my eye. While I like the nice background bokey, a bit more of an edge on the petals would set the rose off better. By the way, don't knock cliches. They sell :-). Paul Master of the Cliche On Apr 24, 2005, at 1:04 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! The rose shot, nuff said... http://www.photoforum.ru/rate/photo.php?photo_id=183768 Boris
Re: The lure of the dark side ...
John Francis writes: ...Holy cow! The review image comes up immediately! Yes, it's fast, but I normally have automatic review image turned off as I find it too distracting when I'm still looking through the finder for that next shot. Also, as Cotty mentioned, the 20D controls are very easy to customize, the only thing I want (aside from MLU with E*S Capture) is to be able to put Av control on the main dial in M mode. Jim www.jcolwell.ca
Re: Using Older lenses and Flash Systems with *ist D/DS???
I took this picture yesterday of my son while he was reading. The gear used was my Pentax *ist D, a SMC Pentax (K) 2.8/105mm, a Metz 60 CT-2 flash (indirect) and the built-in RTF flash (direct) as fill flash: 200 ASA, 1/125 sec. F. 1:8. I was using TTL-flash and a K-lens. http://gallery37564.fotopic.net/p14115207.html I can't see there's any problems Regards Jens
Re: GESO: From *istDS enablement
Thanks for those kind words, Frank. The cat is closing on 20 years old and is a classic example of a friend's comment that cats get their signals from other planets. -P frank theriault wrote: On 4/22/05, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice cat. -frank I should mention that the rest of the photos were just lovely. Lighting, colours, composition, sharpness, etc. I just like cats a lot. I do it to piss of dog lovers. cheers, frank
Re: question about Sekonic Studio S light meter
I've never heard of a Studio S. There is one listed for sale at Adorama but no picture so I can not tell much about it. The Sekonic Studio Delux was an L-28C and the current Studio Delux II is an L-398. There was a Brockway S which was basically the same meter, as was the Norwood Director. These all were top of the line Selenium (no battery) meters (the L-398 is still in production). There is a picture of the 398 (they all looked pretty much the same) at http://www.sekonic.com/Products/L-398M.html graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Ann Sanfedele wrote: It is leather case - Model S no. K 232512 made in Japan Anyone know how old this thing is? is it one of the top of the line things? TIA ann -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.10.2 - Release Date: 4/21/2005
Re: Pic of son reading (Was Using Older lenses and Flash Systems with *ist D/DS???)
Nice shot. Good light. Was the Metz flash used as a slave triggered by the RTF? Paul On Apr 23, 2005, at 8:35 AM, Jens Bladt wrote: I took this picture yesterday of my son while he was reading. The gear used was my Pentax *ist D, a SMC Pentax (K) 2.8/105mm, a Metz 60 CT-2 flash (indirect) and the built-in RTF flash (direct) as fill flash: 200 ASA, 1/125 sec. F. 1:8. I was using TTL-flash and a K-lens. http://gallery37564.fotopic.net/p14115207.html I can't see there's any problems Regards Jens
Re: PAW: Caution Platform Reduced
On 4/24/05, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frank, sometimes when I look at your work, I feel like I very much want to meet you in person to witness your sense of humor first hand. snip In person, I'm boring as hell... g -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: PAW: Caution Platform Reduced
On 4/23/05, Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do like it, Frank... But I'm puzzled by the Lizzárd with the cell phone. I suppose if I could read the small print under the Write Now ~ Right Now, it might make sense. As it is, it adds to the raised eyebrow feeling this engenders. :-) Telus, one of Canada's largest cell-phone providers, has been using brightly coloured lizards and amphibians in it's advertising campaigns for at least a year or two. Their TV ads typically show one of the little beasties crawling around, over and atop of cell phones, while a voice over shills the product. They're quite clever and well done, actually. The little beggars actually seem to have some personality! I'm guessing that the Write Now - Right Now has to do with a texting option. I can't read the print underneath, either, even on the sister shot to this one which is much sharper (but focused on the far wall, at f2.0). Glad you got a kick out of it. Thanks for commenting. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: OT: Publication!
On 4/23/05, David Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kramer did the coffee table book, with fold out legs, on Seinfeld, cerca 1995. Indeed. I was referring to that episode in my post. Glad you picked up on the reference! Best part of that episode was when Kramer spewed all over Kathy Lee. LOL cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: L plate for *istD
I know Herb, I was just having fun with ya. :-) If I had the money could justify the expense, I'd make a switch to Canon. As much as I like my Pentax kit, the lack of an upgrade path, if I decided to go that route, is a bit of a bummer. Dave S On 4/23/05, Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i have to carry it a lot when i have a lot of other stuff in the backpack. i think the Canon is too large too, but it does things that no Pentax body can do, 4FPS with a decent sized buffer and 16MP. that outweighs the size gain. Herb... - Original Message - From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 10:40 PM Subject: Re: L plate for *istD Herb, your the first person I've come across who thought the D was too large. Weren't you saying a little while ago you were thinking of moving to Canon?
Re: PESO: Faringdon Folly
On 4/22/05, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is The Folly in Faringdon, Oxfordshire, UK on a beautiful June evening. It is a 100-foot hilltop tower that was built in 1935 by a local worthy, to provide employment to local craftsmen. It was restored several years ago and is occasionally open, but I've never been inside. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3302383 Z-1p, FA 24-90, Kodak Elite 100; scanned, resized, contrast adjusted, and sharpened. I looked at this last night, and to be honest, didn't think too much of it. Not that I thought it a bad shot or anything; it just made me shrug my shoulders and think doesn't grab me. I came back this morning, and upon a second viewing I'm coming to appreciate it more. I noticed that it's not vertical - which actually looks good here. I also looked at the trees and the long grass, and noticed that it seems their moving. Was it windy that day? That motion blur gives the photo a whole different dynamic. Still not sure if I like the bright tower/dark foreground thing, but I think it might work much better on a big print. This is likely one of those that suffers in the transition to computer screen. I'm glad I decided to give this one a second chance. Good shot! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: PAW: Cliche
On 4/24/05, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! The rose shot, nuff said... http://www.photoforum.ru/rate/photo.php?photo_id=183768 Boris Very pretty, Boris. I've said it before, I'll say it again, and I'll likely remind you every time you present us with a photo like this: You've become a bug flower guy! vbg But, a good one (so that's a good thing). cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: GFM recap from 2004 - Bill Fortney
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: GFM recap from 2004 - Bill Fortney Come to think of it, that might be against flying regulations, as would be flying without eye protection and secured helmet. They are flying ultralights. They don't have the same regulations as real airplanes. William Robb
Re: PESO: Another Small Gallery
- Original Message - From: Cotty Subject: Re: PESO: Another Small Gallery http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/truck/titan1.html Thanks Bill. Nice rig. Seems a very long bed, that standard? A standard truck bed is really 8 feet, so this one is a bit short. Nissan is only making one chassis though, and the choice of either a king cab (mine) or a full crew cab. The bed in the crew cab is a foot or so shorter to allow for the extra cab size. William Robb
Re: OT: Journey of Man
- Original Message - From: Cotty Subject: Re: OT: Journey of Man On 23/4/05, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: I dunno about you guys (n gals) but I come from a comet :-) That what you call fast wimmen in your part of the world? WW
Re: PESO: Another Small Gallery
- Original Message - From: Boris Liberman Subject: Re: PESO: Another Small Gallery Lemmy see. Scale - the relation between model size and original size - right? So, it would be a scale model where scale is simply greater than 1, right, Bill? Good catch. It's a 102% scale model of a truck. Never knew about Titan the Nissan :). Oh, lemmy explain - in Russian Titan is read as Teetan, so it rhymes with Nissan - TeetAn NissAn. Hmmm, you need serious amount of photo-gear to fill this one up ;). The dogs take up some of the room too... William Robb
Re: Super-Multi-Coated 35mm repair
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Mark A. Pickett Subject: Super-Multi-Coated 35mm repair New to the list...looks to be a valuable tool in my forays into takumar land... Anyone know anything about a sort of adhesive that holds the last 2 elements together in the Super-Multi-Coated Takumar 35mm f/3.5? Probably Canada Balsam. We're good for something up here. William Robb I'm not sure that's still the case. Given the age of the lens, it may be correct historically but there are probably more modern cements that will be less liable to effects from humidity and fungus. mike
Re: OT: Journey of Man
On 24/4/05, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed: Where do you hide your second head, messier Startiblafast (spelling)? I gave it away. ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PESO: Spring comes. Eventually.
On 4/22/05, Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A shot from today's stroll in the forest. http://oksne.net/paw/gryta.html All comments and critiques appreciated as usual. Thanks for looking. Been there, seen that. Sadly, not with your eye. Sigh. 8-) Do you ever think of the commercial possibilities of your work? m
Re: L plate for *istD
I have considered switching to Canon as well. But not because Pentax doesn't have an upgrade path. Canon is simply the digital leader right now. However, Pentax will undoubtedly have an upgrade path. These two cameras are not the last they'll ever market. Recent success bodes well for that -- if they don't blow it all trying for the MF market. So for now, I'm content to wait. If I made the jump to Canon, I'd probably be going from two cameras and 15 lenses, including some very fine primes, to 1 camera and perhaps three middling lenses. I wouldn't move to the 20D. I don't think the difference would be noticeable. In fact, some users who've experienced both the *istD and the 20D have said the Canon is inferior in many ways. I'd have to go to the 1DS Mark II or not at all. Paul On Apr 23, 2005, at 9:41 AM, David Savage wrote: I know Herb, I was just having fun with ya. :-) If I had the money could justify the expense, I'd make a switch to Canon. As much as I like my Pentax kit, the lack of an upgrade path, if I decided to go that route, is a bit of a bummer. Dave S On 4/23/05, Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i have to carry it a lot when i have a lot of other stuff in the backpack. i think the Canon is too large too, but it does things that no Pentax body can do, 4FPS with a decent sized buffer and 16MP. that outweighs the size gain. Herb... - Original Message - From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 10:40 PM Subject: Re: L plate for *istD Herb, your the first person I've come across who thought the D was too large. Weren't you saying a little while ago you were thinking of moving to Canon?
Re: OT: Publication!
I knew that, do you _have_ to add a smiley to make a joke around here??? David Oswald wrote: Kramer did the coffee table book, with fold out legs, on Seinfeld, cerca 1995. P. J. Alling wrote: I'm not sure but I believe there's been a book about coffee tables, which I'm sure would have included that coffee table book... frank theriault wrote: On 4/22/05, Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Awesome Frank. Now you can move on to your next project: a coffee table book! ;) Yes! And, it's going to have little legs that fold out so the book ~becomes~ a little coffee table. Or has that been done? vbg Thanks Gonz (and thanks to everyone else that I haven't specifically thanked). cheers, frank
RE: PESO - lensbaby
What a goofy photo. I really like it ;-)) What's a lensbaby? Shel [Original Message] From: Marco Alpert Playing around with a lensbaby: http://www.alpert.com/marco/pdml/peso12.html (At least there's little chance this one will be seen as too sharp.)
Re: New York Times DSLR article
The only reason Apple currently exists is their advertising campaigns, Pentax exists in spite of theirs... DagT wrote: På 23. apr. 2005 kl. 09.52 skrev Cotty: On 22/4/05, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: Great letter, Jon! Pentax is the 'Apple' of the camera industry. I love it! g I tend to think of Pentax as the 'Pentax' of the camera industry. Sure, but they do have a lot in common. The users have chosen not to follow the masses and advertising campaigns . They represent the independent users who like to make their own decisions (and mistakes) .-) DagT
Re: New York Times DSLR article
Cotty, you make mistakes no one else even though of... Cotty wrote: On 23/4/05, DagT, discombobulated, unleashed: Sure, but they do have a lot in common. The users have chosen not to follow the masses and advertising campaigns . They represent the independent users who like to make their own decisions (and mistakes) .-) And if I use Apples and Canons, how then? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: New York Times DSLR article
if any company can pretend to be that, it should be cosina. not pentax by any measure you can come up with (other than lack of market share). best, mishka On 4/22/05, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pentax is the 'Apple' of the camera industry. I love it! g cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: PAW: Cliche
Nice! Leaf positioning within the fame is well done as is the selected DOF. Jack --- Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! The rose shot, nuff said... http://www.photoforum.ru/rate/photo.php?photo_id=183768 Boris __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
FAJ 18-55 vs. Zenitar 16 Fisheye
Hey all... I'm looking to get a good wideangle prime for my -DS without breaking the bank. I got the kit lens to enable snap-n-shoot AF mode for the few times I do that, but I haven't seen any specs on it to compare it for landscape-type stuff. I'm not really interested in blowing many hundreds of dollars on high-quality modern zoom, since I can get comparible quality (with a little more fiddling) with old MF/prime glass for about 10% of the cost. Anyway, the 16mm Zenitar fisheye can be had for $100-$150 and equates to about 20mm coverage on a 35mm, or 13-14mm rectilinear on a 1.5 cropped body. From what I've read, it's pretty good, sharp, and contrasty provded flare is avoided. How does that compare to the kit lens? The fisheye distortion is minimized quite well by the crop, but it's not that big of a deal to remove it in post-processing anyway. Just figured I'd get some thoughts. I could get a nice old Pentax prime, but 28mm is about as wide as I could find for a reasonable price. Thanks -Cory * * Cory Papenfuss* * Electrical Engineering candidate Ph.D. graduate student * * Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University * *
About going commercial (was Re: PESO: Spring comes. Eventually.)
Suggesting commercial possibilities is a very generous comment, Mike. Humble thanks! To be honest, I've thought that over many times. There are so many pros and cons that it takes a lot of considering. Especially when one is already well established in another trade with a reliable income. One thing to worry about is of course the images themselves. Both quality and quantity. To earn a living, the quality must be reliably good, and there must be a certain volume of production to entertain potential customers. Whether it's renewal of stock photos or personal projects. By keeping photography as an hobby, one doesn't have to worry about such things. It is possible to enjoy shooting at every push on the release button, and just leave the button alone otherwise. Creativity doesn't have to be persistant. Another thing to worry about is how to sell one's own product. I just feel embarrassed when trying to promote myself or my photography to strangers. I imagine that to be a professional would be like having a job interview for every customer, and honestly can't stand the thought. A third thing to think about is the competition in the marketplace. All together, I can count on fingers the number of full-time professional nature photographers in this country, which tells something about how hard it is to keep on top of that market. The number of part-time pros, however, is quite high. People with one foot in advertising, for example, or working at the stock agencies. My job is not suited for part-time nature photography. :-( All that said, Last year, I set up a personal one-man enterprise _in case_ some business comes along. Nothing much has happened yet, though...:-)... but one never knows. There are some tax benefits in our system from this practice, and it sends a signal to potential customers about devotion to the hobby, at least. But I don't really have neither the guts or the merchant skills to pull off a photographic career. Jostein - Original Message - From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 4:39 PM Subject: Re: PESO: Spring comes. Eventually. On 4/22/05, Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A shot from today's stroll in the forest. http://oksne.net/paw/gryta.html All comments and critiques appreciated as usual. Thanks for looking. Been there, seen that. Sadly, not with your eye. Sigh. 8-) Do you ever think of the commercial possibilities of your work? m
Re: PESO: Spring comes. Eventually.
Thanks, Rick and Paul. Cheers, Jostein - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 1:11 AM Subject: Re: PESO: Spring comes. Eventually. I agree. Nice colorful reflection. And the ice adds an interesting dimension. Good work. On Apr 22, 2005, at 6:56 PM, Rick Womer wrote: Gorgeous, Jostein! I can't think of a way to improve it! Rick On 4/22/05, Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A shot from today's stroll in the forest. http://oksne.net/paw/gryta.html All comments and critiques appreciated as usual. Thanks for looking. Jostein __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
OT: Inkjet Printing Problems
G'day PDML'ers After a year of not being satisfied with my prints, I sat down last Sunday and read everything I could find on the subject of colour management. Long story short, success, I am now able to produce consistent, if not perfect, results. But... I've now got problems with blue lines running through all my prints: http://tinyurl.com/9ub3b I've run the head cleaning utility so many times I've used half an ink cartridge. The nozzle check pattern always comes out clear. The banding lessens if I make enough prints, but never really clears up. I suspect the problem is caused by a clogged print head (please correct me if I'm wrong). I'm using an Epson Stylus Photo 935. As most no doubt know, unlike Canon HP inkjet printers the print head isn't removable, so fixing the problem isn't all that simple. So my question is. Who on the list has had similar problems? Were you able to clear it, and if so, how did you do it? Thanks in advance. Dave
Re: GFM recap from 2004 - Bill Fortney
Might be an issue with differing regulations in Europe and the Americas. Helmets and goggles are mandatory here, but a colleague of mine has a license for small planes in USA, and she says the regulations are much less strict there. Jostein - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 4:04 PM Subject: Re: GFM recap from 2004 - Bill Fortney - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: GFM recap from 2004 - Bill Fortney Come to think of it, that might be against flying regulations, as would be flying without eye protection and secured helmet. They are flying ultralights. They don't have the same regulations as real airplanes. William Robb
Re: OT: Calvin Hobbes
LOL That's a hoot. Thanks John. Dave S On 4/23/05, John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I finally found the Calvin Hobbes strip I'd been looking for. It's in Scientific Progress goes Boink (on page 23, for those Robert Rankin fans among us ...) Calvin: Dad, how come old photographs are always black and white? Didn't they have colour film back then? Dad: Sure they did. In fact those old photographs *are* in colour. It's just the *world* was black and white then. Calvin: Really? Dad: Yep. The world didn't turn color until sometime in the 1930s, and it was pretty grainy color for a while, too. Calvin: That's really weird. Dad: Well, truth is stranger than fiction. Calvin: But then why are old *paintings* in color? If the world was black and white, wouldn't artists have painted it that way? Dad: Not necessarily. A lot of great artists were insane. Calvin: But how could they have painted in color anyway? Wouldn't their paints have been shades of grey back then? Dad: Of course, but they turned colors like everything else did in the '30s. Calvin: So why didn't old black and white photos turn color too? Dad: Because they were color pictures of black and white, remember?
Re: New York Times DSLR article
Apple's success is due more to good product, good PR and word-of-mouth cult status than advertising. The ads play a role, but other factors are much more important. And that's from an ad guy. On Apr 23, 2005, at 10:58 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: The only reason Apple currently exists is their advertising campaigns, Pentax exists in spite of theirs... DagT wrote: På 23. apr. 2005 kl. 09.52 skrev Cotty: On 22/4/05, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: Great letter, Jon! Pentax is the 'Apple' of the camera industry. I love it! g I tend to think of Pentax as the 'Pentax' of the camera industry. Sure, but they do have a lot in common. The users have chosen not to follow the masses and advertising campaigns . They represent the independent users who like to make their own decisions (and mistakes) .-) DagT
Re: OT: Inkjet Printing Problems
I've seen this problem but never experienced it personally. Those I know who've corrected it have done so with numerous head cleanings. Epson printers won't clog if they're used regularly, but when they sit, they're trouble. Paul On Apr 23, 2005, at 11:51 AM, David Savage wrote: G'day PDML'ers After a year of not being satisfied with my prints, I sat down last Sunday and read everything I could find on the subject of colour management. Long story short, success, I am now able to produce consistent, if not perfect, results. But... I've now got problems with blue lines running through all my prints: http://tinyurl.com/9ub3b I've run the head cleaning utility so many times I've used half an ink cartridge. The nozzle check pattern always comes out clear. The banding lessens if I make enough prints, but never really clears up. I suspect the problem is caused by a clogged print head (please correct me if I'm wrong). I'm using an Epson Stylus Photo 935. As most no doubt know, unlike Canon HP inkjet printers the print head isn't removable, so fixing the problem isn't all that simple. So my question is. Who on the list has had similar problems? Were you able to clear it, and if so, how did you do it? Thanks in advance. Dave
Re: L plate for *istD
well, i'd settle for the 1D Mk2 since its frame rate is higher and has adequate resolution. a clear significant upgrade path *now* from Pentax, even if the camera doesn't ship until early next year, would be enough to keep me with Pentax. i want a D2X spec body and i am willing to pay a D2X price. Herb - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 10:53 AM Subject: Re: L plate for *istD If I made the jump to Canon, I'd probably be going from two cameras and 15 lenses, including some very fine primes, to 1 camera and perhaps three middling lenses. I wouldn't move to the 20D. I don't think the difference would be noticeable. In fact, some users who've experienced both the *istD and the 20D have said the Canon is inferior in many ways. I'd have to go to the 1DS Mark II or not at all.
Re: OT: Inkjet Printing Problems
I had a similar problem with my Canon S820. Of course it has a removable head, but the cost is up near $100. The printer could be replaced for $150. I nearly used up an entire set of ink running the deep cleaning, and even tried alcohol swabs on the head to unclog the jets. The final solution for me was to spend $200 at buydig.com for an HP Photosmart 8450. David Savage wrote: G'day PDML'ers After a year of not being satisfied with my prints, I sat down last Sunday and read everything I could find on the subject of colour management. Long story short, success, I am now able to produce consistent, if not perfect, results. But... I've now got problems with blue lines running through all my prints: http://tinyurl.com/9ub3b I've run the head cleaning utility so many times I've used half an ink cartridge. The nozzle check pattern always comes out clear. The banding lessens if I make enough prints, but never really clears up. I suspect the problem is caused by a clogged print head (please correct me if I'm wrong). I'm using an Epson Stylus Photo 935. As most no doubt know, unlike Canon HP inkjet printers the print head isn't removable, so fixing the problem isn't all that simple. So my question is. Who on the list has had similar problems? Were you able to clear it, and if so, how did you do it? Thanks in advance. Dave
Re: Re: GFM recap from 2004 - Bill Fortney
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wonder how many cameras they lost? I flinched when he opened the side of the underhung bag and then did a few course corrections before sliding the camera out, one-handed. Come to think of it, that might be against flying regulations, as would be flying without eye protection and secured helmet. My own question answered - at least one. The stone catcher net does its job http://www.trikepilot.com/images/billfortney/bftenreasons.wmv (25mb - put .mov at the end if that's your bag) LOL. Fortney told us about that camera. It actually worked afterwards...:-) Jostein
Re: FAJ 18-55 vs. Zenitar 16 Fisheye
On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 11:31:44 -0400 (EDT), Cory Papenfuss wrote: Anyway, the 16mm Zenitar fisheye can be had for $100-$150 and equates to about 20mm coverage on a 35mm, or 13-14mm rectilinear on a 1.5 cropped body. From what I've read, it's pretty good, sharp, and contrasty provded flare is avoided. How does that compare to the kit lens? I haven't used either the *ist D or the kit lens, but I have been very happy with my Zenitar 16/2.8. Full frame, it's a fairly specialized lens that I don't use all that often, though. It has exhibited a lot less flare than I expected when I bought it. TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
Re: About going commercial (was Re: PESO: Spring comes. Eventually.)
i fell into it accidentally. i was taking a lot of pictures anyway and posting them on my web site. it turns out that i have a large collection of photos of the area with consistent good quality that few other people have. that combined with friends who work at places that frequently get asked for photos of the area means that i didn't do much advertising and i still don't. that means i am not making a lot of money, but i am making enough to cover consumables most of the time. if i started to promote myself more, i would have to deliver more and also have to spend even more time at it. right now, that's not possible. Herb... - Original Message - From: Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 11:33 AM Subject: About going commercial (was Re: PESO: Spring comes. Eventually.) Suggesting commercial possibilities is a very generous comment, Mike. Humble thanks! To be honest, I've thought that over many times. There are so many pros and cons that it takes a lot of considering. Especially when one is already well established in another trade with a reliable income. One thing to worry about is of course the images themselves. Both quality and quantity. To earn a living, the quality must be reliably good, and there must be a certain volume of production to entertain potential customers. Whether it's renewal of stock photos or personal projects. By keeping photography as an hobby, one doesn't have to worry about such things. It is possible to enjoy shooting at every push on the release button, and just leave the button alone otherwise. Creativity doesn't have to be persistant.
Re: The lure of the dark side ...
- Original Message - From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was out this evening at a sort of get-together for ex- (and a few remaining current) employees of a former place of work. At one point I was handed a Canon 20D (with the 17-85 IS lens), and told to grab a few shots. After a few initial problems (the owner had auto-focus uncoupled from the shutter release, so I had to find which button to push) I got to try the current midrange Canon offering. First impressions, in order: o It's a nice size. It may well be a little larger than the *ist-D, but it doesn't feel it (unlike the earlier 10D, which seemed a lot bulkier). I like the size. After playing with a 20D, the *ist D felt like a child's toy to me. o In a casual setting, I didn't notice the viewfinder being significantly worse than that on my *ist-D This was my big worry and after using the 20D for a few days, and then going back to the *ist D, I was happy to see that there is very little difference. o USM focussing is fast, fast, fast (and quiet). No surprises there - I've used USM lenses before. Uh huh. o The zoom ring moves the wrong way :-) So does the focus. o The shutter release is so much crisper, and feels much more precise, than the *ist-D. And the shutter sound is better in my opinion. A nice muffled CLACK o Holy cow! The review image comes up immediately! So that's how that new Digic-II processor performs. The Rebel XT (aka 350D) uses the new processor too; that's going to make it look great vs. the *ist-DS. Forget the review. It's the buffer size and speed (FPS is fine for sports and I'm not going to make an argument that the 5fps of the 20D is better or worse than the 2.5fps of the *ist D). Knowing that I can take several shots in quick succession without filling the buffer and having to wait to take another is refreshing. It's not my camera, so I haven't had a chance to review the images. But based on the in-the-hand feel, Pentax have a lot of catching up to do. Without studying the manual, I don't know if there is a way of assigning the controls that I'd like; I certainly didn't like the way this one was set up (the finger wheel did nothing, and the rear thumb wheel was assigned to exposure compensation) - no access to program shift. It's pretty customizeable and much better in operation the the digiRebels. The controls are very intuitive and I've only needed to refer to the manual for two or three How the hell do I make it do this? type issues. It is different in many respects to the *ist D, but after a few days I've figured it all out for the most part. So yes, I've joined the dark side. But before you all jump on me and banish me from the list, just understand that the first accessory I bought was an EOS-M42 adapter. :-) And I still have an Optio too! Christian
OT: photo website templates?
I'd like to refresh my website a little bit to bring it into the 21st century, but I'm not really a web development expert. Also, I'd rather spend my spare time working on images rather than web development. Are there any fill in the blank packages out there? Thanks, Mark
Re: From Argentina
Thanks John and Keith! j On 4/23/05, Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Celio wrote: Wow, man. You're good. You're *real* good. I'm gonna show your stuff to the guys at my camera shop. Daaamn. Sincerely, John Celio Yeah! What John said! I clicked on the URL, intending to see what the fuss was about, and ended up viewing all 75 picures! An excellent body of work, Mr. Buhler... Thanks for posting them! I'll look forward to more of your blog photos. keith whaley -- http://www.neovenator.com AIM: Neopifex Hey, I'm an artist. I can do whatever I want and pretend I'm making a statement. I went back to lurkerdom after a couple of very busy months. I left my job two weeks ago, and just started what will be six months of traveling and photography. I´m in Argentina right now, and wanted to share some pics. I´ve been posting once a day to my photoblog: http://photoblog.jbuhler.com All taken with ist D, and mostly FA35/2 or 16-45/4. Anyway--just saying hi. I´m still reading, but been a bit busy to post lately. Cheers, j -- Juan Buhler - SIGGRAPH 2005 Sketches and Posters Chair http://www.jbuhler.com photoblog at http://photoblog.jbuhler.com
Re: FAJ 18-55 vs. Zenitar 16 Fisheye
Huh! I've used a 16mm Zenitar, an 18mm and 20mm Pentax on a 35mm camera. The Zenitar isn't a 20mm ... it's CONSIDERABLY wider than the 20mm and the 18mm. How do you arrive at the conclusion that the 16mm Zenitar equates to 20mm coverage on 35mm? Shel On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 11:31:44 -0400 (EDT), Cory Papenfuss wrote: Anyway, the 16mm Zenitar fisheye can be had for $100-$150 and equates to about 20mm coverage on a 35mm, or 13-14mm rectilinear on a 1.5 cropped body.
Re: OT: Journey of Man
- Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] I dunno about you guys (n gals) but I come from a comet :-) The last survivor of Shoemaker-Levi. Which goes a long way to express his favourite exclamation Jumping Jupiter...:-) Jostein
Re: OT: photo website templates?
On 4/23/05, Mark Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to refresh my website a little bit to bring it into the 21st century, but I'm not really a web development expert. Also, I'd rather spend my spare time working on images rather than web development. Are there any fill in the blank packages out there? I've got a Java-based app on my computer, called JAlbum. I don't remember where I found it, but a Google search should show it up. It might be just what you are looking for. It's quite powerful. -- -- -Jon Glass Krakow, Poland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FAJ 18-55 vs. Zenitar 16 Fisheye
Perhaps I wasn't clear enough in my post. I scoured the 'net for some equations on rectilinear vs. fisheye projections horizontal and vertical FOV. They're approximate (especially for the fisheye), but are as follows: Rectilinear:FOV = 2 atan (image size/(2*focal length)) Fisheye:FOV = 4 asin (image size/(4*focal length)) Given 35mm film size of 35.8x24.3mm, and the -DS sensor at 23.5x15.7mm, you get these numbers (in degrees X by Y landscape mode): 20mm Rect: 83x63 (35mm), 61x43 (1.5 crop) 14mm Rect: 104x82 (35mm), 80x59 (1.5 crop) 16mm Fish: 136x89 (35mm), 86x57 (1.5 crop) So, what I *meant* to say is that FOV of the fisheye is about equivalent to a 13-14mm rectilinear lens on the -DS, or a 20mm rectilinear lens on a full-frame 35mm body. -Cory On Sat, 23 Apr 2005, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Huh! I've used a 16mm Zenitar, an 18mm and 20mm Pentax on a 35mm camera. The Zenitar isn't a 20mm ... it's CONSIDERABLY wider than the 20mm and the 18mm. How do you arrive at the conclusion that the 16mm Zenitar equates to 20mm coverage on 35mm? Shel On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 11:31:44 -0400 (EDT), Cory Papenfuss wrote: Anyway, the 16mm Zenitar fisheye can be had for $100-$150 and equates to about 20mm coverage on a 35mm, or 13-14mm rectilinear on a 1.5 cropped body. * * Cory Papenfuss* * Electrical Engineering candidate Ph.D. graduate student * * Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University * *
Re: PESO: Another Small Gallery
William Robb wrote: Cotty asked if I had some pictures of my truck a while back. Now I do. Tech stuff: Shot on Fuji 400 print film in a Nikon F2s with a Nikkor SC 50mm f1.4 lens. Aperture and shutter speed unkown but would have been in the f/8 to f/11 range, and around 1/125 second or so. http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/truck/titan1.html Not against your vehicle in particular, William, but I bet the costume designers for Red Dwarf never knew they were going to set a styling trend when they came up with Kryten's head. _Everything_ looks like him, these days. mike
Re: OT: Inkjet Printing Problems
Dave - Sometimes banding will occur when high speed printing is enabled. Disable high speed in the printer properties and see if that solves the problem -P David Savage wrote: G'day PDML'ers After a year of not being satisfied with my prints, I sat down last Sunday and read everything I could find on the subject of colour management. Long story short, success, I am now able to produce consistent, if not perfect, results. But... I've now got problems with blue lines running through all my prints: http://tinyurl.com/9ub3b I've run the head cleaning utility so many times I've used half an ink cartridge. The nozzle check pattern always comes out clear. The banding lessens if I make enough prints, but never really clears up. I suspect the problem is caused by a clogged print head (please correct me if I'm wrong). I'm using an Epson Stylus Photo 935. As most no doubt know, unlike Canon HP inkjet printers the print head isn't removable, so fixing the problem isn't all that simple. So my question is. Who on the list has had similar problems? Were you able to clear it, and if so, how did you do it? Thanks in advance. Dave
Re: L plate for *istD
- Original Message - From: Herb Chong Subject: Re: L plate for *istD well, i'd settle for the 1D Mk2 since its frame rate is higher and has adequate resolution. a clear significant upgrade path *now* from Pentax, even if the camera doesn't ship until early next year, would be enough to keep me with Pentax. i want a D2X spec body and i am willing to pay a D2X price. Bigger buffer, faster frame rate and a couple of more megapixies is all I ask for. And fix the 4 way switch and give full K mount compatability just to keep me from whining about it William Robb
Re: Inkjet Printing Problems
- Original Message - From: David Savage Subject: OT: Inkjet Printing Problems I've now got problems with blue lines running through all my prints: http://tinyurl.com/9ub3b The only time I have seen that sort of banding was when I ran the printer at less than best quality. William Robb
Re: FAJ 18-55 vs. Zenitar 16 Fisheye
- Original Message - From: Cory Papenfuss Subject: FAJ 18-55 vs. Zenitar 16 Fisheye Anyway, the 16mm Zenitar fisheye can be had for $100-$150 and equates to about 20mm coverage on a 35mm, or 13-14mm rectilinear on a 1.5 cropped body. From what I've read, it's pretty good, sharp, and contrasty provded flare is avoided. How does that compare to the kit lens? The fisheye distortion is minimized quite well by the crop, but it's not that big of a deal to remove it in post-processing anyway. I quite liked the Zenitar. I'd have mine still, but that I found a genuine Pentax one instead. Anyway, I found the Zenitar to be a very sharp lens, almost too contrasty, the colour rendition was a bit garish, and very good flare control as well. I was particularly surprised by the latter. William Robb
Re: The lure of the dark side ...
On 23/4/05, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed: So yes, I've joined the dark side. Burn in hell But before you all jump on me and banish me from the list, Oh go on then, what is it just understand that the first accessory I bought was an EOS-M42 adapter. :-) you think *that* lets you off And I still have an Optio too! Oh well, say no more nudge nudge wink wink. Hey I've got a spare EOSK mount attached to a 50mm 1.2 sitting on my desk gathering dust... Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: OT: photo website templates?
If you're just looking for gallery construction, check out Porta http://www.stegmann.dk/mikkel/porta/ It quickly generates a web gallery with a minimum amount of input that's easily uploadable to your ISP. Best of all, it's free. -P Mark Erickson wrote: I'd like to refresh my website a little bit to bring it into the 21st century, but I'm not really a web development expert. Also, I'd rather spend my spare time working on images rather than web development. Are there any fill in the blank packages out there? Thanks, Mark
RE: The lure of the dark side ...
So yes, I've joined the dark side. But before you all jump on me and banish me from the list, just understand that the first accessory I bought was an EOS-M42 adapter. :-) And I still have an Optio too! Nate just got one of these because of a pricing error on Dell. Seems like a sweet body. I can't say I'm jealous, but I'm glad Canon put out a decent-sized body with the same build quality as the *istD. :) Amita
Re: FAJ 18-55 vs. Zenitar 16 Fisheye
Too much math, not enough photography I don't understand the need for equations, nor do I understand the math, the equations, or your conclusion. Like I said, the field of view, regardless of your math, is greater with the Zenitar than it is with a 20mm lens on a 35mm camera. Have you looked through both focal lengths on a 35mm camera? Have you actually compared photos side-by-side? Shel [Original Message] From: Cory Papenfuss Perhaps I wasn't clear enough in my post. I scoured the 'net for some equations on rectilinear vs. fisheye projections horizontal and vertical FOV. They're approximate (especially for the fisheye), but are as follows: Rectilinear: FOV = 2 atan (image size/(2*focal length)) Fisheye: FOV = 4 asin (image size/(4*focal length)) Given 35mm film size of 35.8x24.3mm, and the -DS sensor at 23.5x15.7mm, you get these numbers (in degrees X by Y landscape mode): 20mm Rect: 83x63 (35mm), 61x43 (1.5 crop) 14mm Rect: 104x82 (35mm), 80x59 (1.5 crop) 16mm Fish: 136x89 (35mm), 86x57 (1.5 crop) So, what I *meant* to say is that FOV of the fisheye is about equivalent to a 13-14mm rectilinear lens on the -DS, or a 20mm rectilinear lens on a full-frame 35mm body. -Cory On Sat, 23 Apr 2005, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Huh! I've used a 16mm Zenitar, an 18mm and 20mm Pentax on a 35mm camera. The Zenitar isn't a 20mm ... it's CONSIDERABLY wider than the 20mm and the 18mm. How do you arrive at the conclusion that the 16mm Zenitar equates to 20mm coverage on 35mm? Shel On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 11:31:44 -0400 (EDT), Cory Papenfuss wrote: Anyway, the 16mm Zenitar fisheye can be had for $100-$150 and equates to about 20mm coverage on a 35mm, or 13-14mm rectilinear on a 1.5 cropped body. * * Cory Papenfuss* * Electrical Engineering candidate Ph.D. graduate student * * Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University * *
RE: The lure of the dark side ...
You won't be abandoned from the list. After all, having to use a Canon, USM lenses etc. is punishment enough, isn't it? :-))) Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Christian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 23. april 2005 18:10 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: The lure of the dark side ... - Original Message - From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was out this evening at a sort of get-together for ex- (and a few remaining current) employees of a former place of work. At one point I was handed a Canon 20D (with the 17-85 IS lens), and told to grab a few shots. After a few initial problems (the owner had auto-focus uncoupled from the shutter release, so I had to find which button to push) I got to try the current midrange Canon offering. First impressions, in order: o It's a nice size. It may well be a little larger than the *ist-D, but it doesn't feel it (unlike the earlier 10D, which seemed a lot bulkier). I like the size. After playing with a 20D, the *ist D felt like a child's toy to me. o In a casual setting, I didn't notice the viewfinder being significantly worse than that on my *ist-D This was my big worry and after using the 20D for a few days, and then going back to the *ist D, I was happy to see that there is very little difference. o USM focussing is fast, fast, fast (and quiet). No surprises there - I've used USM lenses before. Uh huh. o The zoom ring moves the wrong way :-) So does the focus. o The shutter release is so much crisper, and feels much more precise, than the *ist-D. And the shutter sound is better in my opinion. A nice muffled CLACK o Holy cow! The review image comes up immediately! So that's how that new Digic-II processor performs. The Rebel XT (aka 350D) uses the new processor too; that's going to make it look great vs. the *ist-DS. Forget the review. It's the buffer size and speed (FPS is fine for sports and I'm not going to make an argument that the 5fps of the 20D is better or worse than the 2.5fps of the *ist D). Knowing that I can take several shots in quick succession without filling the buffer and having to wait to take another is refreshing. It's not my camera, so I haven't had a chance to review the images. But based on the in-the-hand feel, Pentax have a lot of catching up to do. Without studying the manual, I don't know if there is a way of assigning the controls that I'd like; I certainly didn't like the way this one was set up (the finger wheel did nothing, and the rear thumb wheel was assigned to exposure compensation) - no access to program shift. It's pretty customizeable and much better in operation the the digiRebels. The controls are very intuitive and I've only needed to refer to the manual for two or three How the hell do I make it do this? type issues. It is different in many respects to the *ist D, but after a few days I've figured it all out for the most part. So yes, I've joined the dark side. But before you all jump on me and banish me from the list, just understand that the first accessory I bought was an EOS-M42 adapter. :-) And I still have an Optio too! Christian
Re: photo website templates?
Try Coppermine. I use it on my website www.skofteland.net http://coppermine.sourceforge.net/ I don't know if it runs on winders if that matters. Christian - Original Message - From: Mark Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 12:17 PM Subject: OT: photo website templates? I'd like to refresh my website a little bit to bring it into the 21st century, but I'm not really a web development expert. Also, I'd rather spend my spare time working on images rather than web development. Are there any fill in the blank packages out there? Thanks, Mark
Re: A little 60's
frank theriault wrote: ..snip,snip... I just love these stories from people who fell into photography, when they really wanted to do something else. ...snip, snip cheers, frank -- I fell into it, actually - I was acting, writing, painting in my 20's - then I met Bob Sanfedele and fell in love with him and his camera... (let me try that..) It was a Mamiya-sekor. I ultimately loved photography more than Bob - but kept his name cause it was catchy. There are very few of my paintings around - my best friend still has one of my better ones on her wall - some pro photog she was dating back in the early 70's looked at it then and said Yeah- I used to paint like that, that's why I got into photography.) annsan
Re: FAJ 18-55 vs. Zenitar 16 Fisheye
I fail to understand why the field of view of a particular lens is photography, but not math. Aside from the approximations made about the model of a lens' geometry, it is *exactly* math that describes it's view. Artistic/photographic notions have no bearing: the angle of stuff you can see in the viewfinder is a function of what lens you put in front of the sensor. That is all. Judging by your response, I'm not convinced I was clear enough in my description, so here goes again. From what I have read, the angle of view of a 16mm fisheye *on a 1.5 crop factor DSLR* is approximately the same as a 20mm lens *on a 35mm frame size*. Take a look here: http://www.photo.net/learn/fisheye/ Now, with the additional distortions pincushion/barrel, each lens may see more bits in the corners or edges or enlarge the center. That means that some parts of the image may go missing when you reproject to the other's projection. -Cory On Sat, 23 Apr 2005, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Too much math, not enough photography I don't understand the need for equations, nor do I understand the math, the equations, or your conclusion. Like I said, the field of view, regardless of your math, is greater with the Zenitar than it is with a 20mm lens on a 35mm camera. Have you looked through both focal lengths on a 35mm camera? Have you actually compared photos side-by-side? Shel [Original Message] From: Cory Papenfuss Perhaps I wasn't clear enough in my post. I scoured the 'net for some equations on rectilinear vs. fisheye projections horizontal and vertical FOV. They're approximate (especially for the fisheye), but are as follows: Rectilinear:FOV = 2 atan (image size/(2*focal length)) Fisheye:FOV = 4 asin (image size/(4*focal length)) Given 35mm film size of 35.8x24.3mm, and the -DS sensor at 23.5x15.7mm, you get these numbers (in degrees X by Y landscape mode): 20mm Rect: 83x63 (35mm), 61x43 (1.5 crop) 14mm Rect: 104x82 (35mm), 80x59 (1.5 crop) 16mm Fish: 136x89 (35mm), 86x57 (1.5 crop) So, what I *meant* to say is that FOV of the fisheye is about equivalent to a 13-14mm rectilinear lens on the -DS, or a 20mm rectilinear lens on a full-frame 35mm body. -Cory On Sat, 23 Apr 2005, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Huh! I've used a 16mm Zenitar, an 18mm and 20mm Pentax on a 35mm camera. The Zenitar isn't a 20mm ... it's CONSIDERABLY wider than the 20mm and the 18mm. How do you arrive at the conclusion that the 16mm Zenitar equates to 20mm coverage on 35mm? Shel On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 11:31:44 -0400 (EDT), Cory Papenfuss wrote: Anyway, the 16mm Zenitar fisheye can be had for $100-$150 and equates to about 20mm coverage on a 35mm, or 13-14mm rectilinear on a 1.5 cropped body. * * Cory Papenfuss* * Electrical Engineering candidate Ph.D. graduate student * * Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University * * * * Cory Papenfuss* * Electrical Engineering candidate Ph.D. graduate student * * Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University * *
RE: Dumb ist-D focusing question
I'd guess it's small enough to make space for the other focus points. Thsi means it would not be larger than the matrix metereing field. http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentaxistd/page3.asp Why do you think it's bigger than that? Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Don Sanderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 23. april 2005 00:10 Til: PDML Emne: Dumb ist-D focusing question Does anyone know just how much area (in the viewfinder) the central focus spot actually covers? It's apparently a lot larger than I thought. I assumed it was the size of the red LED indicator but it seems to be cover an even larger area than the spot exposure lines in the finder. I think I've been expecting auto-focus (and my eyeballs) to do a great deal more than they are capable of. ;-/ Don
Re: I've joined the masses......
Glassy eyed is a good description... Oh, by the way, you're welcome. Don Sanderson wrote: of crazed, glassy eyed, spend whatever it takes Pentax lens buyers on eekBay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=7509253162 I think it was the pictures I couldn't resist! Or the phrase: No discernable wear. Or the fact that one of you (Bill R?) said it has a *BETTER* bokeh than my 85/1.9! I just want to thank everyone at the PDML for getting me hopelessly addicted to Pentax primes!! [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED] ;-) It should be delivered on Saturday. Don (The succinct, and broke!)
RE: Cliche
...but stunningly deliciously beautiful, all the same. Well done. Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Boris Liberman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 24. april 2005 07:05 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: PAW: Cliche Hi! The rose shot, nuff said... http://www.photoforum.ru/rate/photo.php?photo_id=183768 Boris
