Re: Fried Highlights, Decline in Photo Quality (was PESO - The Bridge)

2005-09-08 Thread Shel Belinkoff
There are numerous ways such a result can be avoided or dealt with
depending on the medium used.  BW film, color negative, transparancy,
digital, all require or may use different techniques.  It's not just a
matter of stopping down.  For example, one technique in BW is to open up
and then cut back on development, or maybe just cut back a bit on
development, and in either case choose an appropriate grade of printing
paper for the desired result.  With digital, especially with a DSLR that
can use RAW capture, shooting in RAW, making the exposure appropriate for
the brightest part of the scene, and then making appropriated adjustments
using the RAW converter may be the way to go.

The trick - if it is a trick - is to understand the range of light and
contrast in the scene, how much range the media has, and how you can adjust
either in exposure or processing to compensate for shadows or highlights
that fall outside of that range.

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



 Okay, stopped down more then the face would have been even darker. I
don't 
 get how in high contrast situations it can always be avoided.

 Doe aka Marnie ;-)




Re: Fried Highlights, Decline in Photo Quality (was PESO - The Bridge)

2005-09-08 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi


On Sep 7, 2005, at 10:49 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Since a picture is worth a thousand words, this may add  
graphically to what

Godfrey said, and with which I agree.

http://home.earthlink.net/~my-pics/blown.jpg


Okay, stopped down more then the face would have been even darker.  
I don't

get how in high contrast situations it can always be avoided.


Given the scene (and I am only looking at this JPEG example) and  
saving the exposure in RAW format, I would have exposed a stop or so  
less to retain some detailing in the dress, and adjusted the RAW  
converter to bring up the then slightly over-dark face.


Of course, I expect the photographer already did that to some degree  
and it might simply be out of scope for the available dynamic range  
of the sensor. The solution then is to flatten out the contrast by  
adding light to the darker areas with a flash or reflector, and use  
less exposure overall.


Weddings are a tough situation, lighting wise. Big white dresses on  
the women, dark suits on the men. Whoever came up with these  
conventions certainly wasn't thinking about photography. ;-)


Godfrey 



Re: Fried Highlights, Decline in Photo Quality (was PESO - The Bridge)

2005-09-08 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Bruce indicated that these were proofs and that  If they pick certain ones
for prints then those might get some extra work to bring out any detail
(highlights and shadows) that might be available in the raw image. 

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 On Sep 7, 2005, at 10:49 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Okay, stopped down more then the face would have been even darker.  
  I don't get how in high contrast situations it can always be avoided.

 Given the scene (and I am only looking at this JPEG example) and  
 saving the exposure in RAW format, I would have exposed a stop or so  
 less to retain some detailing in the dress, and adjusted the RAW  
 converter to bring up the then slightly over-dark face.

 Of course, I expect the photographer already did that to some degree  
 and it might simply be out of scope for the available dynamic range  
 of the sensor. The solution then is to flatten out the contrast by  
 adding light to the darker areas with a flash or reflector, and use  
 less exposure overall.




Re: Fried Highlights, Decline in Photo Quality (was PESO - The Bridge)

2005-09-08 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 9/7/2005 11:07:36 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Whoever came up with these  
conventions certainly wasn't thinking about photography. ;-)

Godfrey 

Hehehe. Obviously not. Well, thanks Shel, Godfrey. Sounds like post 
processing is the way to go for digital.

Marnie aka Doe 



RE: PESO - Blonde

2005-09-08 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi Bruce ... pretty well done.  Love the catchlights in Amber's eyes.  Pose
is pretty nice - relaxed, informal ...my first reaction is that it was just
about a perfect setup, but when I looked on my monitor in PS it seemed that
a little tweak with levels, color, or contrast could help out a bit, give
the pic a little extra sparkle without really changing the feeling or the
light very much.  On my screen there seems to be a veiling, or flatness, to
the image.

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: Bruce Dayton

 This is my daughter.  It was taken as the light was waning in the
 evening.  I had to use a fairly slow shutter speed and large aperture to
 get a reasonable exposure.  She had just gotten her hair highlighted and
 wanted a few shots of it.

 Pentax *istD, FA 50/1.4, handheld
 ISO 400, 1/30 sec @ f/2.4, Fill flash on bracket

 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/0110_amber_042.htm




Re: OT: Manfrotto 680B 322RC2 (monopod ballhead)

2005-09-08 Thread Ryan Lee
Godfrey: Hmm.. I'm having difficulty picturing it. Right now I imagine a
ballhead, only made of rubber, and doesn't swivel? lol.. I know how silly
that sounds..

Mike: I imagine I'd be paranoid enough to always use the neckstrap too. And
Will probably make an effort to dodge random incoming projectiles. Hey just
wondering.. would you happen to know if that strap on the monopod has any
proper use, other than just for something extra to wrap around the hand?

Cheers,
Ryan




- Original Message - 
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 6:12 AM
Subject: Re: Manfrotto 680B  322RC2 (monopod  ballhead)


 I can't recall the name or number of it. It's an hourglass shaped
 rubber mount with a threaded coupling on one side to fit on a monopod
 and a camera tripod mount screw on the other. It allows you to bend
 the setup flexibly, while allowing the monopod to take the weight of
 the camera and lens.

 Godfrey

 On Sep 7, 2005, at 11:17 AM, Ryan Lee wrote:

  Sorry.. which rubber gizmo?
 
  Cheers,
  Ryan
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
  Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 3:25 AM
  Subject: Re: Manfrotto 680B  322RC2 (monopod  ballhead)
 
 
  With a monopod, the best flexible attachment I've used is a little
  rubber gizmo that Manfrotto sells. It doesn't allow portrait
  orientation, but lets me move the camera quickly and easily for
  panning at sports events, etc.
 
  Godfrey
 
 
 
 






Re: PESO - Blonde

2005-09-08 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Shel,

Based on your recommendation, I went back and punched it up just a
bit.  I think it does look just a bit better, although it has a slight
effect on the skin tones.  I'm suspecting my monitor is just a shade
more contrasty than yours.

Anyway, here's the changed image:
http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/0110_amber_042a.htm

and the original:
http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/0110_amber_042.htm

-- 
Bruce


Wednesday, September 7, 2005, 11:25:31 PM, you wrote:

SB Hi Bruce ... pretty well done.  Love the catchlights in Amber's eyes.  Pose
SB is pretty nice - relaxed, informal ...my first reaction is that it was just
SB about a perfect setup, but when I looked on my monitor in PS it seemed that
SB a little tweak with levels, color, or contrast could help out a bit, give
SB the pic a little extra sparkle without really changing the feeling or the
SB light very much.  On my screen there seems to be a veiling, or flatness, to
SB the image.

SB Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: Bruce Dayton

 This is my daughter.  It was taken as the light was waning in the
 evening.  I had to use a fairly slow shutter speed and large aperture to
 get a reasonable exposure.  She had just gotten her hair highlighted and
 wanted a few shots of it.

 Pentax *istD, FA 50/1.4, handheld
 ISO 400, 1/30 sec @ f/2.4, Fill flash on bracket

 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/0110_amber_042.htm






Anybody used 1GB MMC cards?

2005-09-08 Thread Igor Roshchin

Has anybody used 1GB MMC (as opposed to SD) cards in DS (DL) ?
Are there any known issues with large capacity MMC cards
(so-called MMC Plus)?

These new cards have 13 pins but are backwards compatible 
and can work with 7.
The important question is, - while with 13 pins, the card
can achieve the speed of 150x and even 200x, what
would be the speed of the same card when operated with 7 pins only?


I see some 1GB MMC cards (e.g. from ATP, Transcend) that are
even slightly cheaper than the SD cards from the same manufacturer
(e.g. at buy.com). At the same time, ATP 1GB MMC is rated even
faster than the 1GB SD card.


Thanks,

Igor



Re: OT: Manfrotto 680B 322RC2 (monopod ballhead)

2005-09-08 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Sorry, don't have time right now to hunt it up and take a picture to  
post. (I don't use the monopod very often...)


Imagine a cylinder about 1.5 inches long with ends about the same  
diameter. It's pinched in the middle, hourglass shaped, about 1 inch  
thick in the center, so that it can bend freely. One end has a screw  
hole in it, the other a tripod screw coming out.


Godfrey

On Sep 7, 2005, at 11:38 PM, Ryan Lee wrote:


Hmm.. I'm having difficulty picturing it. Right now I imagine a
ballhead, only made of rubber, and doesn't swivel? lol.. I know how  
silly

that sounds..




Re: PESO - Blonde

2005-09-08 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Better, IMO - here's what looks pretty good on my screen:

http://home.earthlink.net/~my-pics/adj.jpg

I think we're at the point of splitting hairs, really, as I don't think
either of our results is clearly better, just somewhat different
interpretations, and with the differences in  monitors, who knows how other
may even see these.



Shel 

 [Original Message]
 From: Bruce Dayton 

 Based on your recommendation, I went back and punched it up just a
 bit.  I think it does look just a bit better, although it has a slight
 effect on the skin tones.  I'm suspecting my monitor is just a shade
 more contrasty than yours.

 Anyway, here's the changed image:
 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/0110_amber_042a.htm

 and the original:
 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/0110_amber_042.htm




Re: CNE Airshow/TOPDML Pix

2005-09-08 Thread Cotty
On 7/9/05, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:

Something seems to be missing from this shot, something that rhymes with 
beers...

http://photobucket.com/albums/v90/jefkom/Air%20Show%202005/
?action=viewcurrent=P9053092.jpg

He was at an airshow, not gardening.




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: PESO - Blonde

2005-09-08 Thread Cotty
On 8/9/05, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed:

I think we're at the point of splitting hairs, really

That's *not* what Bruce's daughter wanted to hear !




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: Back from Ukraine

2005-09-08 Thread Frantisek
G Now as to the difference between a traveler and a tourist? If
G you are paying your own way you are a tourist, if someone else is
G paying your way and you really would rather be home you are a
G traveler GRIN. All other definitions are meer pretentions.

Come on. Now you are pretentious yourself. Give us a little slack,
and know, that for many, there is a big difference between a tourist
and a traveller. I could say the Czech words but you wouldn't
understand the slang - in English the words I used might take on a bit
of a different meaning...

Frantisek



[OT]First compact digicam with APS sized CMOS...

2005-09-08 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
http://www.dpreview.com/articles/sonydscr1/
Interesting, first compact digicamera with sensor (almost) as big as in
DSLRs. Used lens seems to be interesting too :-)

-- 
Balance is the ultimate good...

Best Regards
Sylwek



[OT]First compact digicam with APS sized CMOS...

2005-09-08 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
http://www.dpreview.com/articles/sonydscr1/
Interesting, first compact digicamera with sensor (almost) as big as in
DSLRs. Used lens seems to be interesting too :-)

-- 
Balance is the ultimate good...

Best Regards
Sylwek



Re: Re: Popped over to Berlin

2005-09-08 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2005/09/08 Thu AM 04:37:01 GMT
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: Popped over to Berlin
 
 Hi!
 
  Not much Pentax content I'm afraid, but there's the odd lunatic around
  here who likes to see what I get up to when I'm working, so here ya go.
  
  http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/photoessays/essays/berlin.html
 
 Cotty, I know by witness you're tall... But, puleeezze, you're not 
 *that* tall to be mistaken with the giraffe... ;-)

It's not his height.  It's his freckles.  


Or his purple, prehensile tongue.

 
 Fascinating story ;-).
 
 Boris
 
 


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Re: Re: OT: Manfrotto 680B 322RC2 (monopod ballhead)

2005-09-08 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Ryan Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2005/09/08 Thu AM 06:38:55 GMT
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: OT: Manfrotto 680B  322RC2 (monopod  ballhead)
 
 Godfrey: Hmm.. I'm having difficulty picturing it. Right now I imagine a
 ballhead, only made of rubber, and doesn't swivel? lol.. I know how silly
 that sounds..

Silly but correct.  It's not called a flexhead for nothing.

 
 Mike: I imagine I'd be paranoid enough to always use the neckstrap too. And
 Will probably make an effort to dodge random incoming projectiles. Hey just
 wondering.. would you happen to know if that strap on the monopod has any
 proper use, other than just for something extra to wrap around the hand?

It's all I would use it for.  My Benbo Trekker doesn't even have that.  I'm 
always dropping it and leaving it places.  It always gets returned because 
nobody knows what it is.  8-)


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Re: Decisions, decisions...

2005-09-08 Thread Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu
On 9/8/05, Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Go for a high end digital camera now (DSLR) camera. It's not important wich
 one as long as it's a Pentax - to facilitate your expensive lenses - and
 future lenses. Changing brand is a very expensive PITA. Be prepared to buy a
 new body every 2-5 years. The same as with (other) computers.
 
 
 Jens Bladt
 Arkitekt MAA
 http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
 

Well, my expensive lens is the FA 50mm f/1.7. But you're right, it
will be a Pentax DSLR.
Btw: did you saw the dpreview news? There is a new Sony camera, a
prosumer with the new 10MP APS-C sized Sony sensor. That's the reason
I don't know if I should wait or not (the sensor, not the camera). The
problem is nobody seems to think we'll see a new DS with this sensor
in spring (or am I wrong?).
I could keep a 10MP camera 2-5 years, but I would be surprized to keep
an *istDS more than 2. I'm a lousy photographer, so I need more pixels
for croping ;)

With the computers it's not exactly the same situation. I could
upgrade it when necessary, add more RAM, a new hard drive, even change
the mainboardCPU (I'll have to do that someday in order to be able to
use a PCI Express video card).
With a camera, I don't have this option.

-- 
Best regards,
Alex Sarbu



Re: Fried Highlights, Decline in Photo Quality (was PESO - The Bridge)

2005-09-08 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 The test photos I made in the garden showing the tree leaves that were shot
 raw and presented unaltered, showed the difference that 1/3 stop of
 exposure could make.  Overall, I'm seeing a decline in what many
 photographers and editors consider acceptable quality.  Is this a result of
 digital?  I suspect that it is to a degree.  I also attribute it to other
 factors.

The biggest factor is probably time.  People thought that digital would be a 
press and forget experience, rather like they had with film when the 
processing was done by someone else.  When it turned out that it meant, in fact 
spanding a lot of time in front of a computer fiddling, suddenly good enough 
became the standard to reach.  Thus frazzled highlights become, not just 
acceptable, but the norm.

 
 However, I'd like to see more photographers taking greater care with the
 photos they present, learning more about what makes a good photo (at least
 technically), and spending more time correcting small details.  I'm
 disheartened to see what I perceive as an overall decline in the quality of
 photography.

It's only a decline because people are doing their own work and do not know, 
because they have not been trained, what they should be looking for.

My father sent me some pictures he took with his Canon digital whilst we were 
on holiday.  They look like cartoons.  Oversaturated, missed focus, you name 
it, the faults were there.  He is over the moon because he is doing his own 
colour work.  I _think_ he will be able to learn what is needed to make the 
system function properly.  I don't know if he will _want_ to.

mike


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Re: Decisions, decisions...

2005-09-08 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu wrote on 08.09.05 11:01:

 Btw: did you saw the dpreview news? There is a new Sony camera, a
 prosumer with the new 10MP APS-C sized Sony sensor. That's the reason
 I don't know if I should wait or not (the sensor, not the camera). The
 problem is nobody seems to think we'll see a new DS with this sensor
 in spring (or am I wrong?).
Actually the sensor used in this new Sony is SLIGHTLY smaller than APS-C. It
has 1.7x crop compared to 35 mm frame. I bet there will be another new APS-C
sensor from Sony, but I am afraid that now Konica-Minolta would have
priority acess to it because of cooperation between these two companies.

-- 
Balance is the ultimate good...

Best Regards
Sylwek



Re: Fried Highlights, Decline in Photo Quality (was PESO - The Bridge)

2005-09-08 Thread Graywolf

From slide photography, blown highlights are where the slide was so overexposed 
that there is only clear film base where there was supposed to be detail. 
Extending that to digital is easy. The negative film equivalent is where the 
shadows are clear film base (underexposure) although we have seen so many 
photos over the years where the print is just black where the shadows are 
supposed to be that is is not considered as much a defect as blown highlights 
are.


In your other post of the bride if the dress had been overexposed to the point 
where you could not pull out any detail whatsoever, that would have been blown 
highlights. However, even though you had to photoshop to bring them out they 
were there to bring out so they were not blown.

If one is constantly getting blown highlights it is simple to set the exposure 
compensation to -0.5 stops or so permanently and not worry anymore.

On the Internet, where many monitors are not well calibrated, often what 
appears to be blown highlights on the screen is simply the monitor whitepoint 
(adjusted with the contrast control) set too high. When you adjust your monitor 
with Adobe Gamma for instance they tell you to set contrast at 100%, but better 
seems to be about 95% then you do not get those false blown highlights on the 
screen.

graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
Idiot Proof == Expert Proof
---


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
One of these days you are going to define it so I understand it? Exactly what 
is a blown highlight?


Marnie aka Doe :-)





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Re: Decisions, decisions...

2005-09-08 Thread danilo
I agree with you Jens.
Digital cameras aren't a new technology that needs several improves anymore.
Those days are gone. (even if it was three years ago)
What we have now is enough for most people.
Of course you can wait for the next model, but then, why not wait more
for the *next one* again? (and so on)
As you say it's the same with computer, everyday the prices go down
and the specs go up, so maybe the real question is do I need/want a
digital camera today?
If your answer is yes go buy what you can find now (this is also a
particular moment, when you may find a new *Ist-D for less than 900$,
as someonewlse said).
If your answer is I can wait then wait, but when  you'll can't don't
wait for the next one, cause there will always be a next one to
drool onto! lol
If your answer is I need it but I will also want the newer model
that, within an year will reach the shelves, then consider buying one
used one instead..

In this everyday better scenario, you, pentax users, have also some
advantages, as pentax camera seems to resist longer than other
brand's ones (canon for one).
It's like buying a Mac, you know that that model will last longer than
a PC... (not that it will become better with time, hey it's not a
bottle of wine!!)


just my 2 cents.

by,
danilo.



Re: [OT]First compact digicam with APS sized CMOS...

2005-09-08 Thread DagT

Hmmm, put that sensor into a Ricoh GR21...

DagT

Den 8. sep. 2005 kl. 10.13 skrev Sylwester Pietrzyk:


http://www.dpreview.com/articles/sonydscr1/
Interesting, first compact digicamera with sensor (almost) as big  
as in

DSLRs. Used lens seems to be interesting too :-)

--
Balance is the ultimate good...

Best Regards
Sylwek






Re: Fried Highlights, Decline in Photo Quality (was PESO - The Bridge)

2005-09-08 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 9/8/2005 3:12:38 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
If one is constantly getting blown highlights it is simple to set the 
exposure compensation to -0.5 stops or so permanently and not worry anymore.

On the Internet, where many monitors are not well calibrated, often what 
appears to be blown highlights on the screen is simply the monitor whitepoint 
(adjusted with the contrast control) set too high. When you adjust your monitor 
with Adobe Gamma for instance they tell you to set contrast at 100%, but better 
seems to be about 95% then you do not get those false blown highlights on the 
screen.

graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
Idiot Proof == Expert Proof
---

Hmmm. Thanks graywolf. I got a spyder on sale cheap. Haven't tried it yet. Up 
until now used Adobe Game. Interesting.

Marnie aka that Doe person



Re: GESO: The Dream Cruise

2005-09-08 Thread Paul Stenquist

Thanks Doug. Yes, the cruise tends to bring out the robust ladies.
On Sep 8, 2005, at 12:01 AM, Doug Brewer wrote:

I had meant to comment earlier, Paul, but let it get away, so I'm glad 
you've posted a link to the gallery. I really enjoyed the pans you 
did. Some very nice work there.


Also, you have some healthy young women in your neighborhood.


On Sep 7, 2005, at 11:14 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Due to popular demand, I've posted some Dream Cruise pics. Okay, it 
wasn't exactly popular demand, but my buddy Bill did request these, 
so here they are. Many are just snaps that I shot from my Chevy while 
cruising, but most of them are at least a bit entertaining. Some are 
from the night before the cruise. A few, which were seen before, are 
from a few nights before the cruise. The shots from the morning of 
the cruise are under clouds or in the rain. Enough disclaimers.

http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=526011








Re: Fried Highlights, Decline in Photo Quality (was PESO - The Bridge)

2005-09-08 Thread Paul Stenquist
It's an area of a photo that shows no detail due to overexposure -- the 
whitest of whites.

Paul
On Sep 8, 2005, at 1:21 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

One of these days you are going to define it so I understand it? 
Exactly what

is a blown highlight?

Marnie aka Doe :-)





Re: Fried Highlights, Decline in Photo Quality (was PESO - The Bridge)

2005-09-08 Thread Paul Stenquist
Yes, it is a matter of preference. Some photographers find artistic 
expression in extreme contrast representations or high-key work. A 
blown highlight isn't necessarily a mistake, although there are cases 
where a shot would quite obviously be improved if more detail were 
represented in a highlight.

Paul
On Sep 8, 2005, at 1:37 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


In a message dated 9/7/2005 10:34:20 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Here are some ways to define and understand the term:

- A blown highlight is a highlight area where you wanted *some*
detail (like the subtle texture of a white shirt) but there is none:
it's basically blank white in the image.

- In Zone System parlance, a blown highlight would be a Zone IX
exposure that missed and overexposed by about a stop.

- In 8bit grayscale parlance, all pixel values in an image range
between 0 and 255. A blown highlight is any area where you wanted to
render some detail that has an average  pixel value over 220. (I set
Zone IX areas to have pixel values between 185 and 220.)

Hope that helps. :-)

Godfrey
===
Yes, it does. Thanks.

I would think it's partly the photographer's preference then. Sometimes
he/she may not want detail. Like the duck shown recently, which 
someone else later

said was high key.

I feel another survey coming on. :-)

Marnie aka Doe  Although I should report the results of the second to 
last

one first (re exposure survey).





Re: PESO - Blonde

2005-09-08 Thread Paul Stenquist

Beautiful girl, beautiful shot. Love the light. Very nice.
Paul
On Sep 8, 2005, at 1:39 AM, Bruce Dayton wrote:


This is my daughter.  It was taken as the light was waning in the
evening.  I had to use a fairly slow shutter speed and large aperture 
to
get a reasonable exposure.  She had just gotten her hair highlighted 
and

wanted a few shots of it.

Pentax *istD, FA 50/1.4, handheld
ISO 400, 1/30 sec @ f/2.4, Fill flash on bracket

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/0110_amber_042.htm

Comments welcome

--
Bruce





Re: [OT]First compact digicam with APS sized CMOS...

2005-09-08 Thread Boris Liberman
  http://www.dpreview.com/articles/sonydscr1/
  Interesting, first compact digicamera with sensor (almost) as big
  as in
  DSLRs. Used lens seems to be interesting too :-)

Ladies and Gentlemen, can it be that we're actually witnessing the
sensor that will be used in successor of *istD? This is mere
approximation on my part...

-- 
Boris



Re: [OT]First compact digicam with APS sized CMOS...

2005-09-08 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Boris Liberman wrote on 08.09.05 12:33:

 Ladies and Gentlemen, can it be that we're actually witnessing the
 sensor that will be used in successor of *istD? This is mere
 approximation on my part...
Unfortunately not yet ;-) It is sligthly smaller (21.5 x 14.4 mm) - we would
end up with 1.7x crop ;-)

-- 
Balance is the ultimate good...

Best Regards
Sylwek



Re: Fried Highlights, Decline in Photo Quality (was PESO - The Bridge)

2005-09-08 Thread Paul Stenquist
I don't think anyone would dispute that the absence of detail in that 
shot is somewhat undesirable. But as Bruce said, these are basically 
proof conversions. I'd like to see him go back to the RAW, crank the 
brightness all the way up to 150, then turn the exposure down until the 
midtones are just right. That might very well restore some detail in 
this highlight.

Paul
On Sep 8, 2005, at 1:47 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

Since a picture is worth a thousand words, this may add graphically to 
what

Godfrey said, and with which I agree.

http://home.earthlink.net/~my-pics/blown.jpg

Shel



[Original Message]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



One of these days you are going to define it so I understand it? 
Exactly

what

is a blown highlight?







Re: Fried Highlights, Decline in Photo Quality (was PESO - The Bridge)

2005-09-08 Thread Paul Stenquist
Your example shows good control of highlights. Some are quite bright 
but are appropriate for this type of shot in my judgment. Of course, 
it's all very subjective.

Paul
On Sep 8, 2005, at 1:57 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


My example:

For instance, bride in white. Posed by the wedding photographer, I just
happened to be there. High contrast, white dress, she was in shadow.

http://members.aol.com/eactivist/MEET/pages/bride.html

It actually doesn't look bad. But it is NOT as shot. I did post 
processing.
Inexpert post processing, because I couldn't figure out how to do it 
with
layers. But it came out with her face and one arm too dark, not enough 
detail, not
pleasing, so I lightened them. Now I can see how one can do that with 
post

processing, but not just with shooting.

Marnie aka Doe :-) And, at the time, of course, I let everyone think I 
SHOT

it that way. Hehehehe.





Re: PESO - Blonde

2005-09-08 Thread Paul Stenquist
I prefer the original. On my monitor, the bright area on her forehead 
is beginning to show a hint of posterization on the higher contrast 
version.

On Sep 8, 2005, at 2:45 AM, Bruce Dayton wrote:


Hello Shel,

Based on your recommendation, I went back and punched it up just a
bit.  I think it does look just a bit better, although it has a slight
effect on the skin tones.  I'm suspecting my monitor is just a shade
more contrasty than yours.

Anyway, here's the changed image:
http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/0110_amber_042a.htm

and the original:
http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/0110_amber_042.htm

--
Bruce


Wednesday, September 7, 2005, 11:25:31 PM, you wrote:

SB Hi Bruce ... pretty well done.  Love the catchlights in Amber's 
eyes.  Pose
SB is pretty nice - relaxed, informal ...my first reaction is that it 
was just
SB about a perfect setup, but when I looked on my monitor in PS it 
seemed that
SB a little tweak with levels, color, or contrast could help out a 
bit, give
SB the pic a little extra sparkle without really changing the 
feeling or the
SB light very much.  On my screen there seems to be a veiling, or 
flatness, to

SB the image.

SB Shel



[Original Message]
From: Bruce Dayton



This is my daughter.  It was taken as the light was waning in the
evening.  I had to use a fairly slow shutter speed and large 
aperture to
get a reasonable exposure.  She had just gotten her hair highlighted 
and

wanted a few shots of it.

Pentax *istD, FA 50/1.4, handheld
ISO 400, 1/30 sec @ f/2.4, Fill flash on bracket

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/0110_amber_042.htm









Re: PESO - Blonde

2005-09-08 Thread Paul Stenquist
This example is far too bright on my screen, and the contrast has 
rendered her complexion almost ruddy. The highlights on her forehead 
and in her hair are near white.. My display is a calibrated Apple flat 
panel with the brightness set rather low to match my printer output.

Paul
On Sep 8, 2005, at 3:01 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:


Better, IMO - here's what looks pretty good on my screen:

http://home.earthlink.net/~my-pics/adj.jpg

I think we're at the point of splitting hairs, really, as I don't think
either of our results is clearly better, just somewhat different
interpretations, and with the differences in  monitors, who knows how 
other

may even see these.



Shel


[Original Message]
From: Bruce Dayton



Based on your recommendation, I went back and punched it up just a
bit.  I think it does look just a bit better, although it has a slight
effect on the skin tones.  I'm suspecting my monitor is just a shade
more contrasty than yours.

Anyway, here's the changed image:
http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/0110_amber_042a.htm

and the original:
http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/0110_amber_042.htm







Re: SD Ultra II - testing ...

2005-09-08 Thread keith_w

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:


What he said... ;-)

I use a stopwatch and repeated the transfer 10 times, averaged the  
results.
The results are as accurate as needed for this kind of casual  
performance metric.


Godfrey



Ten times? That seems like serious overkill to me.
The effort expended is MORE than needed. This is not the national bureau 
of standards level of testing being required. If you're off by 2 
seconds, or 3 or 5, do you beiieve it will really matter to anyone?


When someone asks the data transfer rate for a given card, they mean is 
it 10 mb/sec or 20 or 30. Not 11 vs. 10.


[NB: The above sentence is not meant to reflect actual numbers, but is 
merely illustrative, to get the point across...]  g


keith



Re: [OT]First compact digicam with APS sized CMOS...

2005-09-08 Thread Boris Liberman
  Ladies and Gentlemen, can it be that we're actually witnessing the
  sensor that will be used in successor of *istD? This is mere
  approximation on my part...
 Unfortunately not yet ;-) It is sligthly smaller (21.5 x 14.4 mm) - we would
 end up with 1.7x crop ;-)

I stand corrected (well, actually I am sitting ;-) )... Well, in such
a case it could be even better (larger/more pixels)...

One can dream only so much.

-- 
Boris



Re: [OT]First compact digicam with APS sized CMOS...

2005-09-08 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Boris Liberman wrote on 08.09.05 13:33:

 I stand corrected (well, actually I am sitting ;-) )... Well, in such
 a case it could be even better (larger/more pixels)...
 
 One can dream only so much.
I think full APS-C sized sensor with pixel pitch like in this R1 would have
about 12 MPix. And my guess is that *istD successor will have this magical
number of pixels ;-)

-- 
Balance is the ultimate good...

Best Regards
Sylwek



Re: OT: Manfrotto 680B 322RC2 (monopod ballhead)

2005-09-08 Thread Ryan Lee
Aha.. thanks guys. A flexhead..
http://www.central-camera.com/tripods/bogen/monpods/3423c.htm

How bizarre :)

Cheers,
Ryan





Re: Spotted in Future shop

2005-09-08 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis

On Wed, 7 Sep 2005, Adam Maas wrote:

Good prices, although I popped into my local FS tonight and they were out. 
Then I hit Blacks and they provided me with a bigger dilemna. They've now got 
the D at $899 body-only. Same price as the DS body (And damned near $800 
cheaper than anywhere else I've seen D's new). It's a no-brainer if they were 
doing a kit with the 18-55, but as it is, I've got some thinking to do.


Check ebay's completed auctions for the 18-55, you may be able to 
afford it.


Just a thought,

Kostas



Re: PESO - The Bridge

2005-09-08 Thread brooksdj
I'll try that next outing.

Dave  

 Dave,
 
 Always good to hear from you.  Thanks for your kind words.  When I
 hold the zoom, I have it cradled in my left palm so a sliding motion
 zooms it and rotating focuses it.  That works best for me.
 
 -- 
 Bruce





Re: Spotted in Future shop

2005-09-08 Thread Adam Maas





Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:


On Wed, 7 Sep 2005, Adam Maas wrote:

Good prices, although I popped into my local FS tonight and they were 
out. Then I hit Blacks and they provided me with a bigger dilemna. 
They've now got the D at $899 body-only. Same price as the DS body 
(And damned near $800 cheaper than anywhere else I've seen D's new). 
It's a no-brainer if they were doing a kit with the 18-55, but as it 
is, I've got some thinking to do.



Check ebay's completed auctions for the 18-55, you may be able to 
afford it.


Just a thought,

Kostas



I just checked used prices on the 18-35. With Henry's selling them for 
$135, it looks like I'm getting the D. I don't need the long end of the 
18-55 anyways (Currently own a 28, 50 and 200mm primes in K mount)


-Adam



Minor enablement

2005-09-08 Thread brooksdj
Won an auction last night for the Vivitar AF 100 f3.5 macro with 1:1 
adaptor.

New old stock at Henrys.$96.00 US plus shipping/Taxes etc.Six month Warranty.

Should get it by mid week next week.

It was either Paul or Bruce that gave it an acceptable review, so i wenrt for 
it.


I'll review and post.

Dave





Re: SD Ultra II - testing ...

2005-09-08 Thread Shel Belinkoff
For some you may be right.  For others, something a bit more precise is
desirable.  Speaking only for myself, something a bit more precise than 10
mb/sec v 20mb/sec is desirable.  More precision, numbers closer to actual,
are more meaningful. However, I'm not sure - in fact I know - that I'd not
run the test 10X per card that I'm testing.  Eight sounds about right ;-))

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: keith_w 
 Subject: Re: SD Ultra II - testing ...


 Ten times? That seems like serious overkill to me.
 The effort expended is MORE than needed. This is not the national bureau 
 of standards level of testing being required. If you're off by 2 
 seconds, or 3 or 5, do you beiieve it will really matter to anyone?

 When someone asks the data transfer rate for a given card, they mean is 
 it 10 mb/sec or 20 or 30. Not 11 vs. 10.

 [NB: The above sentence is not meant to reflect actual numbers, but is 
 merely illustrative, to get the point across...]  g

 keith




Re: [OT]First compact digicam with APS sized CMOS...

2005-09-08 Thread Dario Bonazza
I don't think so. Smaller and 4/3 ratio instead of 3/2. However, it could be 
a sensor in a new CMOS family that will include a 9-12 megapixel unit 
suitable for DSLR's.


Dario

- Original Message - 
From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 12:33 PM
Subject: Re: [OT]First compact digicam with APS sized CMOS...



 http://www.dpreview.com/articles/sonydscr1/
 Interesting, first compact digicamera with sensor (almost) as big
 as in
 DSLRs. Used lens seems to be interesting too :-)


Ladies and Gentlemen, can it be that we're actually witnessing the
sensor that will be used in successor of *istD? This is mere
approximation on my part...

--
Boris





Re: CNE Airshow/TOPDML Pix

2005-09-08 Thread frank theriault
On 9/7/05, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 My wife says 'he always looks happy - a satisfied mind...'
 
 http://photobucket.com/albums/v90/jefkom/Air%20Show%202005/
 ?action=viewcurrent=P9053092.jpg
 
 I'd agree ;-)
 

It's all an act, Cotty.  I'm turning into an old curmudgeon (before my time).

G...

cheers,
frank

vbg


-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: CNE Airshow/TOPDML Pix

2005-09-08 Thread frank theriault
On 9/7/05, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Something seems to be missing from this shot, something that rhymes with
 beers...
 
 http://photobucket.com/albums/v90/jefkom/Air%20Show%202005/?action=viewcurrent=P9053092.jpg
 

Sorry - I leave the ears for special occasions.  Haven't worn them since GFM.

g

cheers,
frank


-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: GESO: The Dream Cruise

2005-09-08 Thread frank theriault
On 9/7/05, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Due to popular demand, I've posted some Dream Cruise pics. Okay, it
 wasn't exactly popular demand, but my buddy Bill did request these, so
 here they are. Many are just snaps that I shot from my Chevy while
 cruising, but most of them are at least a bit entertaining. Some are
 from the night before the cruise. A few, which were seen before, are
 from a few nights before the cruise. The shots from the morning of the
 cruise are under clouds or in the rain. Enough disclaimers.
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=526011
 

Awesome folder, Paul.  I like 'em all, but I do have a soft spot for
those lovely low-light pans;  they're so dynamic!

Great work.

cheers,
frank


-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



FS: 1.4xAF, and maybe more

2005-09-08 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
But it's just one of those Cambron units.
Got it new off eBay for about $40.  Hardly used.  Maybe 2 or 3 times.
And with my selection of lenses (28/30/35/50/100/2-zooms),
really not useful to me at all.

$30 shipped in US.
$40 shipped to Europe.

and ...

I may have a BIG LX multi-body/lens/accs outfit coming in.
Anyone interested, let me know.

Collin
PayPal.


mail2web - Check your email from the web at
http://mail2web.com/ .





Re: Minor enablement

2005-09-08 Thread frank theriault
On 9/8/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Won an auction last night for the Vivitar AF 100 f3.5 macro with 1:1 
 adaptor.
 
 New old stock at Henrys.$96.00 US plus shipping/Taxes etc.Six month Warranty.
 
 Should get it by mid week next week.
 
 It was either Paul or Bruce that gave it an acceptable review, so i wenrt for 
 it.
 
 
 I'll review and post.
 
 Dave

Sounds like a nice score, Dave.

-frank


-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson




Re: [OT]First compact digicam with APS sized CMOS...

2005-09-08 Thread Dario Bonazza
The Sony march for approaching a true DSLR is evident here. 
Hmmm... Carl Zeiss lenses in Minolta mount to be seen sooner or later. 
Rather odd, isn't it?


Dario

- Original Message - 
From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 10:09 AM
Subject: [OT]First compact digicam with APS sized CMOS...



http://www.dpreview.com/articles/sonydscr1/
Interesting, first compact digicamera with sensor (almost) as big as in
DSLRs. Used lens seems to be interesting too :-)

--
Balance is the ultimate good...

Best Regards
Sylwek





Re: [OT]First compact digicam with APS sized CMOS...

2005-09-08 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Dario Bonazza wrote on 08.09.05 14:12:

 I don't think so. Smaller and 4/3 ratio instead of 3/2. However, it could be
 a sensor in a new CMOS family that will include a 9-12 megapixel unit
 suitable for DSLR's.
Actually this sensor has 3:2 ratio ;-) Otherwise you're perfectly correct
:-)

-- 
Balance is the ultimate good...

Best Regards
Sylwek



Re: PESO - Blonde

2005-09-08 Thread frank theriault
On 9/8/05, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This is my daughter.  It was taken as the light was waning in the
 evening.  I had to use a fairly slow shutter speed and large aperture to
 get a reasonable exposure.  She had just gotten her hair highlighted and
 wanted a few shots of it.
 
 Pentax *istD, FA 50/1.4, handheld
 ISO 400, 1/30 sec @ f/2.4, Fill flash on bracket
 
 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/0110_amber_042.htm
 
 Comments welcome

Lovely photo of a beautiful young lady.  As for the two renderings,
although I do notice subtle differences, I couldn't say which I
prefer.

cheers,
frank


-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: [OT]First compact digicam with APS sized CMOS...

2005-09-08 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Dario Bonazza wrote on 08.09.05 14:22:

 The Sony march for approaching a true DSLR is evident here.
 Hmmm... Carl Zeiss lenses in Minolta mount to be seen sooner or later.
 Rather odd, isn't it?
Who knows? But it would be said if Sony would gain image stailisation (Anti
Shake), while Pentax still doesn't have its own solution :-( Actually even
Ricoh managed to do their own CCD shifting system in small compact:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0509/05090702ricoh_caplior3.asp

-- 
Balance is the ultimate good...

Best Regards
Sylwek



Re: Popped over to Berlin

2005-09-08 Thread frank theriault
On 9/7/05, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Not much Pentax content I'm afraid, but there's the odd lunatic around
 here who likes to see what I get up to when I'm working, so here ya go.
 
 http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/photoessays/essays/berlin.html
 
 
 

Cameraman Steve Cottrell?  Who the hell's that?  vbg

Seriously, an interesting photo essay of what was obviously an
interesting assignment for you and the crew, Cotty.

cheers,
frank


-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: [OT]First compact digicam with APS sized CMOS...

2005-09-08 Thread Shel Belinkoff
24mm at the wide end is very appealing ;-))

Shel 
Am I paranoid or perceptive? 


 - Original Message - 
 From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  http://www.dpreview.com/articles/sonydscr1/
  Interesting, first compact digicamera with sensor (almost) as big as in
  DSLRs. Used lens seems to be interesting too :-)




Re: GESO - My First

2005-09-08 Thread frank theriault
On 9/7/05, william sawyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I keep hoping Paul Stenquist will honor us with a GESO of his Dream Cruise
 photos.  I live in Detroit, but have never been to The Cruise since I HATE
 CROWDS!!!
 
 In the hope that he will reciprocate, here's a GESO of my own:
 
 http://groups.msn.com/wsawyerphotography/galleryeverysooften.msnw?Page=1
 
 C'mon, Paul
 
 BTW, your granddaughter shows great promise!
 
 Bill Sawyer
 Livonia, MI

I especially like Blue Heron Rookery, but they're all good shots. 
Lovely gallery.

cheers,
frank 


-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: Decisions, decisions...

2005-09-08 Thread frank theriault
On 9/8/05, John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Strangely enough, several of us seem to manage quite well with the D
 
 A higher frame rate, and faster AF, would definitely be welcome.  But
 unless it's your primary source of income the D can serve quite well.
 

I think we've reached the point now where many improvements may be
more sales hype than devices that will allow one to obtain better
photos.

Prices of dslr's seem to have stabilized, and are such that quality
bodies loaded with useful features are available for most amateurs.

I don't think that waiting for the next model will provide a
significant improvement that's cost effective.

cheers,
frank


-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



RE: PESO - The Bridge

2005-09-08 Thread Tim Øsleby
I really like this shot Bruce. As many before me has said, her pose and
expression is very good, and the lighting too. 
If I ever decide to marry my beloved, then I'll ask you to come over to do
the shooting ;-)

I would love to see a tighter cropped version. #115 suggests it would be
wonderful. Combining the pose and lighting in £109, and the composition of
#115, that might make an even stronger picture. 


Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds 
(Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)

 -Original Message-
 From: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 6. september 2005 23:52
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: PESO - The Bridge
 
 I flew out to Baltimore several weeks ago to do the photography for my
 niece's wedding.  This is one of the shots from an outdoor bridal
 portrait session.
 
 Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, handheld
 ISO 200, 1/180 sec @ f/5.6
 
 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bullock_0109.htm
 
 Comments welcome
 
 --
 Bruce
 






Re: Decisions, decisions...

2005-09-08 Thread R.C.Booth
I agree.  Faster AF hasn't been an issue for me since all I have are manual 
focus lenses.  As with computers, the latest model is always a bit obsolete 
by the time it hits the market - its never ending.  My biggest concerns are 
image quality and how it handles and the D does very well in each respect. 
And, I've begun to figure out the processing of RAW files and am very 
impressed with the results.


RCB
- Original Message - 
From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 8:58 AM
Subject: Re: Decisions, decisions...



On 9/8/05, John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Strangely enough, several of us seem to manage quite well with the D

A higher frame rate, and faster AF, would definitely be welcome.  But
unless it's your primary source of income the D can serve quite well.



I think we've reached the point now where many improvements may be
more sales hype than devices that will allow one to obtain better
photos.

Prices of dslr's seem to have stabilized, and are such that quality
bodies loaded with useful features are available for most amateurs.

I don't think that waiting for the next model will provide a
significant improvement that's cost effective.

cheers,
frank


--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



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Re: [OT]First compact digicam with APS sized CMOS...

2005-09-08 Thread Dario Bonazza

Thanks Sylwek. This shows what Sony thinks of 4:3 for serious cameras :-)

Dario

- Original Message - 
From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: [OT]First compact digicam with APS sized CMOS...



Dario Bonazza wrote on 08.09.05 14:12:

I don't think so. Smaller and 4/3 ratio instead of 3/2. However, it could 
be

a sensor in a new CMOS family that will include a 9-12 megapixel unit
suitable for DSLR's.

Actually this sensor has 3:2 ratio ;-) Otherwise you're perfectly correct
:-)

--
Balance is the ultimate good...

Best Regards
Sylwek





Re: [OT]First compact digicam with APS sized CMOS...

2005-09-08 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Dario Bonazza wrote on 08.09.05 15:07:

 Thanks Sylwek. This shows what Sony thinks of 4:3 for serious cameras :-)
And I think it's a good sign for future image sensors from Sony :-)

-- 
Balance is the ultimate good...

Best Regards
Sylwek



Re: To match Gold LX

2005-09-08 Thread Fred
Hi, P.J.

 I thought I mentioned that they weren't the best in the group of series
 ones.

Yes, indeed you did.  I was merely adding my personal observation that, at
the time that Vivitar was celebrating its anniversary, high quality in VS1
lenses had become a thing of the past (in my humble opinion).

 They are however a match for the finish, after all who in their right
 mind would actually use them to take pictures.

Well, these particular eBay lenses ~may~ actually have been used - they
were certainly not in mint collector's condition - they were merely
excellent, perhaps in 9 condition.

As for actually using these models, I'm willing to use the (5th-generation)
Q-DOS 3-D version of that 4th-generation 70-210, just because it's fun to
use, even though its optical and build qualities are less than that of the
sweet first three VS1 70-210's.

Fred



Re: [OT]First compact digicam with APS sized CMOS...

2005-09-08 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Dario Bonazza wrote on 08.09.05 15:07:

 Thanks Sylwek. This shows what Sony thinks of 4:3 for serious cameras :-)
BTW did you notice placement of hot shoe? Doesn't it remind you anything?
;-)

-- 
Balance is the ultimate good...

Best Regards
Sylwek



Re: Fried Highlights, Decline in Photo Quality (was PESO - The Bridge)

2005-09-08 Thread P. J. Alling

A white so bright it could star in a laundry detergent commercial...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

One of these days you are going to define it so I understand it? Exactly what 
is a blown highlight?


Marnie aka Doe :-)


 




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	Run in circles, (scream and shout).




Re: [OT]First compact digicam with APS sized CMOS...

2005-09-08 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis

On Thu, 8 Sep 2005, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote:


Dario Bonazza wrote on 08.09.05 15:07:


Thanks Sylwek. This shows what Sony thinks of 4:3 for serious cameras :-)

And I think it's a good sign for future image sensors from Sony :-)


Ah, but do they still have a reason to make them available to Nikon 
and Pentax? If I were Sony and knew that Nikon is planning to build 
its own fab (and others may do so too), I would feel that in little 
time I would be left on the lurch. I would thus try to buy someone 
(say KM) to make money from making and selling added value too.


They have done it, and look who now looks like they are in the lurch.

Just speculating (there may well be contracts in the way of the above 
plan),


Kostas



Re: [OT]First compact digicam with APS sized CMOS...

2005-09-08 Thread Dario Bonazza

Yes, reminds me something, but cannot remember what ;-)

Dario

- Original Message - 
From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 3:24 PM
Subject: Re: [OT]First compact digicam with APS sized CMOS...



Dario Bonazza wrote on 08.09.05 15:07:


Thanks Sylwek. This shows what Sony thinks of 4:3 for serious cameras :-)

BTW did you notice placement of hot shoe? Doesn't it remind you anything?
;-)

--
Balance is the ultimate good...

Best Regards
Sylwek





Re: CNE Airshow/TOPDML Pix

2005-09-08 Thread P. J. Alling

Propeller beanie then.

Cotty wrote:


On 7/9/05, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:

 

Something seems to be missing from this shot, something that rhymes with 
beers...


http://photobucket.com/albums/v90/jefkom/Air%20Show%202005/
?action=viewcurrent=P9053092.jpg
   



He was at an airshow, not gardening.




Cheers,
 Cotty


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Re: PESO - Blonde

2005-09-08 Thread Jack Davis
Bruce,
Lighting, ideal. Soft, detailed and clean.
I think the depth concentrates the focus precisely as
it should. 
Beautiful subject.

Jack

--- Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello Shel,
 
 Based on your recommendation, I went back and
 punched it up just a
 bit.  I think it does look just a bit better,
 although it has a slight
 effect on the skin tones.  I'm suspecting my monitor
 is just a shade
 more contrasty than yours.
 
 Anyway, here's the changed image:
 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/0110_amber_042a.htm
 
 and the original:
 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/0110_amber_042.htm
 
 -- 
 Bruce
 
 
 Wednesday, September 7, 2005, 11:25:31 PM, you
 wrote:
 
 SB Hi Bruce ... pretty well done.  Love the
 catchlights in Amber's eyes.  Pose
 SB is pretty nice - relaxed, informal ...my first
 reaction is that it was just
 SB about a perfect setup, but when I looked on my
 monitor in PS it seemed that
 SB a little tweak with levels, color, or contrast
 could help out a bit, give
 SB the pic a little extra sparkle without really
 changing the feeling or the
 SB light very much.  On my screen there seems to be
 a veiling, or flatness, to
 SB the image.
 
 SB Shel 
 
 
  [Original Message]
  From: Bruce Dayton
 
  This is my daughter.  It was taken as the light
 was waning in the
  evening.  I had to use a fairly slow shutter
 speed and large aperture to
  get a reasonable exposure.  She had just gotten
 her hair highlighted and
  wanted a few shots of it.
 
  Pentax *istD, FA 50/1.4, handheld
  ISO 400, 1/30 sec @ f/2.4, Fill flash on bracket
 
  http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/0110_amber_042.htm
 
 
 
 
 


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Re: Popped over to Berlin

2005-09-08 Thread P. J. Alling

mike wilson wrote:


From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2005/09/08 Thu AM 04:37:01 GMT
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Popped over to Berlin

Hi!

   


Not much Pentax content I'm afraid, but there's the odd lunatic around
here who likes to see what I get up to when I'm working, so here ya go.

http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/photoessays/essays/berlin.html
 

Cotty, I know by witness you're tall... But, puleeezze, you're not 
*that* tall to be mistaken with the giraffe... ;-)
   



It's not his height.  It's his freckles.  



Or his purple, prehensile tongue.
 


MartyFeldman He must quite popular with the ladies./MartyFeldman

 


Fascinating story ;-).

Boris


   




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Re: [OT]First compact digicam with APS sized CMOS...

2005-09-08 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Dario Bonazza wrote on 08.09.05 15:38:

 Yes, reminds me something, but cannot remember what ;-)
Oh, really? ;-)

-- 
Balance is the ultimate good...

Best Regards
Sylwek



RE: Teleconverter F 1.7x AF: any comment?

2005-09-08 Thread Tim Øsleby
I have one myself. The reason I bought it was to convert a mf telezoom into
af. Now I find myself using it a lot in other setups. It's a very god TC.


Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds 
(Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)

 -Original Message-
 From: Marco Ferrari [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 7. september 2005 14:32
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Teleconverter F 1.7x AF: any comment?
 
 Dear all,
 
 have you ever used this Teleconverter?
 Have you some comments?
 
 I shot slide films, and I'm interested in converting a mirror lens and the
 SMC-A 50/1.4 (both
 manual focus) in a long telephoto and a 85/2.38 autofocus lenses.
 
 Thanks,
 
 marco
 
 
 
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Re: GESO: The Dream Cruise

2005-09-08 Thread pnstenquist
Thanks Frank. It was a hoot.


 On 9/7/05, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Due to popular demand, I've posted some Dream Cruise pics. Okay, it
  wasn't exactly popular demand, but my buddy Bill did request these, so
  here they are. Many are just snaps that I shot from my Chevy while
  cruising, but most of them are at least a bit entertaining. Some are
  from the night before the cruise. A few, which were seen before, are
  from a few nights before the cruise. The shots from the morning of the
  cruise are under clouds or in the rain. Enough disclaimers.
  http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=526011
  
 
 Awesome folder, Paul.  I like 'em all, but I do have a soft spot for
 those lovely low-light pans;  they're so dynamic!
 
 Great work.
 
 cheers,
 frank
 
 
 -- 
 Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson
 



Re: Re: Popped over to Berlin

2005-09-08 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2005/09/08 Thu PM 01:52:33 GMT
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: Popped over to Berlin
 
 mike wilson wrote:
 
 From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2005/09/08 Thu AM 04:37:01 GMT
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: Popped over to Berlin
 
 Hi!
 
 
 
 Not much Pentax content I'm afraid, but there's the odd lunatic around
 here who likes to see what I get up to when I'm working, so here ya go.
 
 http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/photoessays/essays/berlin.html
   
 
 Cotty, I know by witness you're tall... But, puleeezze, you're not 
 *that* tall to be mistaken with the giraffe... ;-)
 
 
 
 It's not his height.  It's his freckles.  
 
 
 Or his purple, prehensile tongue.
   
 
 MartyFeldman He must quite popular with the ladies./MartyFeldman

He seems to get on well with _all_ giraffes.

 
   
 
 Fascinating story ;-).
 
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Re: [OT]First compact digicam with APS sized CMOS...

2005-09-08 Thread P. J. Alling

Nikon F?

Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote:


Dario Bonazza wrote on 08.09.05 15:07:

 


Thanks Sylwek. This shows what Sony thinks of 4:3 for serious cameras :-)
   


BTW did you notice placement of hot shoe? Doesn't it remind you anything?
;-)

 




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Re: [OT]First compact digicam with APS sized CMOS...

2005-09-08 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
P. J. Alling wrote on 08.09.05 16:14:

 Nikon F?
ZZ - no! :-)

-- 
Balance is the ultimate good...

Best Regards
Sylwek



PESO: Carved in sand

2005-09-08 Thread Dario Bonazza

After almost one year, here is a PESO of mine:
http://www.dariobonazza.com/misc/misc13e.htm

Comments welcome,

Dario



Re: PESO - Toxics

2005-09-08 Thread frank theriault
On 8/19/05, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello Marco,
 
 This one kind of grows on me.  The textures are great.  The hint of a
 doorway on the left and the small sprig on the bottom are all subtle
 details that work for me to strengthen the whole.  I always like your
 perspective on things.  Nice job.
 
 --
 Best regards,
 Bruce
 
 MA http://www.alpert.com/marco/pdml/peso22.html

I agree with everything Bruce says (at least in this post g).

cheers,
frank


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Re: [OT]First compact digicam with APS sized CMOS...

2005-09-08 Thread Dario Bonazza

Oh, well... must be odd amateur things ;-)

Dario

- Original Message - 
From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 3:50 PM
Subject: Re: [OT]First compact digicam with APS sized CMOS...



Dario Bonazza wrote on 08.09.05 15:38:


Yes, reminds me something, but cannot remember what ;-)

Oh, really? ;-)

--
Balance is the ultimate good...

Best Regards
Sylwek





Re: [OT]First compact digicam with APS sized CMOS...

2005-09-08 Thread Dario Bonazza
Seriously, I'd like to see something like that with Pentax on it (will 
Pentax ever make a prosumer digicam?).


Dario


- Original Message - 
From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 3:50 PM
Subject: Re: [OT]First compact digicam with APS sized CMOS...



Dario Bonazza wrote on 08.09.05 15:38:


Yes, reminds me something, but cannot remember what ;-)

Oh, really? ;-)

--
Balance is the ultimate good...

Best Regards
Sylwek





PESO: Giuseppe

2005-09-08 Thread Dario Bonazza

I think I've never posted this one here:
http://www.dariobonazza.com/misc/misc12e.htm

Comments welcome,

Dario



PESO: Ghost of arose

2005-09-08 Thread Dario Bonazza

I think I've never posted this one here:
http://www.dariobonazza.com/misc/misc11e.htm

Comments welcome,

Dario



Re: [OT]First compact digicam with APS sized CMOS...

2005-09-08 Thread The Professor at Pastiche Studio
This is the most right-handed camera since the Speed Graphic.  


J.W.L.
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From: Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 8:46 AM
Subject: Re: [OT]First compact digicam with APS sized CMOS...



Oh, well... must be odd amateur things ;-)

Dario

- Original Message - 
From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 3:50 PM
Subject: Re: [OT]First compact digicam with APS sized CMOS...



Dario Bonazza wrote on 08.09.05 15:38:


Yes, reminds me something, but cannot remember what ;-)

Oh, really? ;-)

--
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Best Regards
Sylwek








Re: PSD - portable storage devices?

2005-09-08 Thread Juey Chong Ong

The SmartDisk FlashTrax supports viewing Pentax PEF files:

http://smartdisk.com/eWeb/smartdiskus/www/staticpages/flashtrax.asp




Re: [OT]First compact digicam with APS sized CMOS...

2005-09-08 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Dario Bonazza wrote on 08.09.05 16:51:

 Seriously, I'd like to see something like that with Pentax on it (will
 Pentax ever make a prosumer digicam?).
 
Many people would like it :/ With dedicated hot shoe and now with big sensor
it can be even backup body for DSLR. BTW - there are some samples along with
a test on Polish page (last page ;-)
http://www.fotopolis.pl/index.php?gora=4lewa=3e=3342p=0
Iso 800 seems to be very usable, 1600 starts to be quite noisy especially in
the shade, but even then much better than any former prosumer digicam, and
close to the results possible with DSLRs.

-- 
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Best Regards
Sylwek



Re: PESO: Giuseppe

2005-09-08 Thread frank theriault
On 9/8/05, Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I think I've never posted this one here:
 http://www.dariobonazza.com/misc/misc12e.htm
 
 Comments welcome,
 
 Dario

I love it!  Beautifully framed and composed, and the dof is about
perfect to my eyes.

It looks like he's reading a children's picture book.  How interesting!

Terrific photo, Dario.

cheers,
frank


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RE: PESO: Carved in sand

2005-09-08 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I like this one quite a bit.  The shadow on the carved face makes it a
better than average shot. Good work!

Shel 
Am I paranoid or perceptive? 


 [Original Message]
 From: Dario Bonazza 

 After almost one year, here is a PESO of mine:
 http://www.dariobonazza.com/misc/misc13e.htm




Re: PESO: Giuseppe

2005-09-08 Thread Dario Bonazza
Giuseppe was reading loud funny short poems from the book he had caught from 
a bookshop we had just visited.

He barely noticed me shooting the scene :-)

Dario

- Original Message - 
From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 5:06 PM
Subject: Re: PESO: Giuseppe



On 9/8/05, Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I think I've never posted this one here:
http://www.dariobonazza.com/misc/misc12e.htm

Comments welcome,

Dario


I love it!  Beautifully framed and composed, and the dof is about
perfect to my eyes.

It looks like he's reading a children's picture book.  How interesting!

Terrific photo, Dario.

cheers,
frank


--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson





RE: PESO: Giuseppe

2005-09-08 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Bingo!  Another nice shot.

The bokeh on this lens seems just a scosh harsh to me - of course, that's
nothing to do with you or the photo.

Shel 
Am I paranoid or perceptive? 


 [Original Message]
 From: Dario Bonazza 

 I think I've never posted this one here:
 http://www.dariobonazza.com/misc/misc12e.htm




Re: Scary photoshopping

2005-09-08 Thread Juey Chong Ong
Meaning the photog just blew a few hundred dollars (or passed it on  
to the client) to make up for poor lighting. For that price he/she  
could have bought better lights.

And still charged a few more dollars. :-)

--jc


On Aug 30, 2005, at 12:38 PM, John Francis wrote:


That was my first impression - on a lot of those original shots the
lighting is absolutely terrible, with all sorts of ugly shadows.




Re: PESO - Blonde

2005-09-08 Thread brooksdj
Super shot Bruce. Pose and lighting are very good.

You certainly have the eye for positioning subjects.

Dave(likes first shot better)Brooks   

 This is my daughter.  It was taken as the 
light 
was waning in the
 evening.  I had to use a fairly slow shutter speed and large aperture to
 get a reasonable exposure.  She had just gotten her hair highlighted and
 wanted a few shots of it.
 
 Pentax *istD, FA 50/1.4, handheld
 ISO 400, 1/30 sec @ f/2.4, Fill flash on bracket
 
 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/0110_amber_042.htm
 
 Comments welcome
 
 -- 
 Bruce
 






Re: PESO: Carved in sand

2005-09-08 Thread Dario Bonazza
I was tempted to add a bright eye on the sand eyeball, just to give some 
extra life to it. but at the end I left it as it is.


Dario

- Original Message - 
From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 5:12 PM
Subject: RE: PESO: Carved in sand



I like this one quite a bit.  The shadow on the carved face makes it a
better than average shot. Good work!

Shel
Am I paranoid or perceptive?



[Original Message]
From: Dario Bonazza



After almost one year, here is a PESO of mine:
http://www.dariobonazza.com/misc/misc13e.htm







Re: PESO: Giuseppe

2005-09-08 Thread pnstenquist
Love this one! Interesting dynamic, nice composition, subtle tones. Good work.
Paul


 I think I've never posted this one here:
 http://www.dariobonazza.com/misc/misc12e.htm
 
 Comments welcome,
 
 Dario
 



Re: PESO - The Bridge

2005-09-08 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Tim,

Thanks for the comments.  Of course, I would love to come visit your
country and shoot your wedding. :)

-- 
Bruce


Thursday, September 8, 2005, 6:00:05 AM, you wrote:

TØ I really like this shot Bruce. As many before me has said, her pose and
TØ expression is very good, and the lighting too. 
TØ If I ever decide to marry my beloved, then I'll ask you to come over to do
TØ the shooting ;-)

TØ I would love to see a tighter cropped version. #115 suggests it would be
TØ wonderful. Combining the pose and lighting in £109, and the composition of
TØ #115, that might make an even stronger picture. 


TØ Tim
TØ Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 
TØ Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds 
TØ (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)

 -Original Message-
 From: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 6. september 2005 23:52
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: PESO - The Bridge
 
 I flew out to Baltimore several weeks ago to do the photography for my
 niece's wedding.  This is one of the shots from an outdoor bridal
 portrait session.
 
 Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, handheld
 ISO 200, 1/180 sec @ f/5.6
 
 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bullock_0109.htm
 
 Comments welcome
 
 --
 Bruce
 








Re: PESO: Carved in sand

2005-09-08 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Dario,

Kinda cool.  I like what you have done.  What attracts me most is how
her face and the sculpture are looking at each other.  It would be
nice to bring up the shadowed sculpture face just a bit.

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce


Thursday, September 8, 2005, 7:39:31 AM, you wrote:

DB After almost one year, here is a PESO of mine:
DB http://www.dariobonazza.com/misc/misc13e.htm

DB Comments welcome,

DB Dario





Re: Ghost of a rose

2005-09-08 Thread Dario Bonazza
Yes, the tables... damn! The shadow was changing quickly and I was in a 
hurry, before the picture was lost.


Dario

- Original Message - 
From: Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 4:56 PM
Subject: PESO: Ghost of arose



I think I've never posted this one here:
http://www.dariobonazza.com/misc/misc11e.htm

Comments welcome,

Dario





RE: GESO - My First

2005-09-08 Thread Tim Osleby
Very nice gallery. My favourite is the first of the spiders, I do like the
angle.


Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds 
(Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)

 -Original Message-
 From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 8. september 2005 14:50
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: GESO - My First
 
 On 9/7/05, william sawyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I keep hoping Paul Stenquist will honor us with a GESO of his Dream
 Cruise
  photos.  I live in Detroit, but have never been to The Cruise since I
 HATE
  CROWDS!!!
 
  In the hope that he will reciprocate, here's a GESO of my own:
 
  http://groups.msn.com/wsawyerphotography/galleryeverysooften.msnw?Page=1
 
  C'mon, Paul
 
  BTW, your granddaughter shows great promise!
 
  Bill Sawyer
  Livonia, MI
 
 I especially like Blue Heron Rookery, but they're all good shots.
 Lovely gallery.
 
 cheers,
 frank
 
 
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 Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson
 






Tokina 20~35 2.8 AF Pro

2005-09-08 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Any comments on this puppy?


Shel 
Am I paranoid or perceptive? 




RE: GESO: The Dream Cruise

2005-09-08 Thread Tim Osleby
Most of you folks know what I think about transporters (some people call
them cars). 
Despite this, I do enjoy the pan pictures. But my favourite is #3708937,
very nice atmosphere in that one, and they do look a bit cool. Most likely
somebody tell this ignorant (me), what kind of cars it is. I also enjoy the
big guy in the chair, a real character having a good time.


Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds 
(Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)

 -Original Message-
 From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 8. september 2005 05:15
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: GESO: The Dream Cruise
 
 Due to popular demand, I've posted some Dream Cruise pics. Okay, it
 wasn't exactly popular demand, but my buddy Bill did request these, so
 here they are. Many are just snaps that I shot from my Chevy while
 cruising, but most of them are at least a bit entertaining. Some are
 from the night before the cruise. A few, which were seen before, are
 from a few nights before the cruise. The shots from the morning of the
 cruise are under clouds or in the rain. Enough disclaimers.
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=526011
 





Re: Fried Highlights, Decline in Photo Quality (was PESO - The Bridge)

2005-09-08 Thread Gonz



Shel Belinkoff wrote:

I wasn't referring to specular highlights, but to areas like you noted on
the dress in Bruce's photograph,  (Sorry Bruce, not picking on you or the
photo specifically, just using it as an example), which, BTW, he explained
in the detailed response he sent earlier.


I actually like the blown highlights in this particular image.  It adds 
a certain glow that complements the high-key look in the veil.  I 
usually dont like blown highlights, but in this case I would not change 
anything.  I like the range I see.  Its a beautiful photo.


rg



RE: GESO: The Dream Cruise

2005-09-08 Thread pnstenquist
Hi Tim. Thanks for commenting. I'd love to help you with the ID of 3708937 but 
numbers don't show up on either of my browsers. 
Paul


 Most of you folks know what I think about transporters (some people call
 them cars). 
 Despite this, I do enjoy the pan pictures. But my favourite is #3708937,
 very nice atmosphere in that one, and they do look a bit cool. Most likely
 somebody tell this ignorant (me), what kind of cars it is. I also enjoy the
 big guy in the chair, a real character having a good time.
 
 
 Tim
 Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
  
 Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds 
 (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 8. september 2005 05:15
  To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
  Subject: GESO: The Dream Cruise
  
  Due to popular demand, I've posted some Dream Cruise pics. Okay, it
  wasn't exactly popular demand, but my buddy Bill did request these, so
  here they are. Many are just snaps that I shot from my Chevy while
  cruising, but most of them are at least a bit entertaining. Some are
  from the night before the cruise. A few, which were seen before, are
  from a few nights before the cruise. The shots from the morning of the
  cruise are under clouds or in the rain. Enough disclaimers.
  http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=526011
  
 
 
 



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