PESO: Through a windshield dirtily

[Powell Hargrave]

I was given about 25 feet, 8 meters of very expired, June 1979, bulk Tri-X
which had been cold stored.  So I shot about a dozen frames with the MX and
the Pancake lens.  The film is fogged and pretty well un-useable producing
very grainy results with shadows blocked up.  The rest of the film will
soon be in the trash unless someone can suggest an interesting use for it.

A couple of shots of my sons house construction were worth saving and then
there is this one.  It is really bad!  I think the Pancake lens does a nice
job of shooting into the sun but the dirty windshield sure adds to the flair.

So why do I kind of like this shot?  Just my poor taste?  Or is it
interesting to anyone else?

http://members.shaw.ca/hargravep/Image-X.htm

My dirty windshield does not make life very secure for the nearly invisible
pedestrians.

Powell

Re: RSS/RDF feed (testing help needed)

[Boris Liberman]

Hi!

> Strangely enough, I have something of an internal clock.  For example, a
> couple of years ago I had an early morning flight to make.  I awoke in
> plenty of time to get to the airport and check in without needing an alarm
> clock to wake me.  Once out in the world, clocks and time are everywhere -
> in the car, on the radio, at the toll plaza, along the highway, in
> restaurants - everywhere.

Yep... Same here...

> If I'm supposed to meet you somewhere, at a specific time, you can count on
> my being there - on time ;-))  In fact, I'm often a little early.

For me it is worse... My early arrival is proportional to the
perceived importance of the event... Sometimes it is hilarious... Yet,
being early is much better than the opposite.

> Bottom line is this: years ago I decided not to my life to be run by time
> or schedules, and I structured my life in such a way that it's not.

That I am yet to decide, to specify, to implement, and ultimately to
debug ... ;-)

--
Boris

Re: RSS/RDF feed (testing help needed)

[Shel Belinkoff]

Apart from an occasional drs appointment, or meeting friends for an event,
my life does not contain many appointments.  Those that I do have are
structured pretty loosely.

Strangely enough, I have something of an internal clock.  For example, a
couple of years ago I had an early morning flight to make.  I awoke in
plenty of time to get to the airport and check in without needing an alarm
clock to wake me.  Once out in the world, clocks and time are everywhere -
in the car, on the radio, at the toll plaza, along the highway, in
restaurants - everywhere.

If I'm supposed to meet you somewhere, at a specific time, you can count on
my being there - on time ;-))  In fact, I'm often a little early.

Bottom line is this: years ago I decided not to my life to be run by time
or schedules, and I structured my life in such a way that it's not.

Shel



> [Original Message]
> From: David Savage 

> On a practical note, how do you keep appointments?

Re: Who's Not Shooting Raw?

[Don Williams]

Since starting to use the D last year I haven't taken one JPEG picture. 
After

a week of shooting TIFF I changed over to RAW. This was after I read posts
about RSE on the group. Since then I've been processing the RAW images
with RSE and Photoshop CS. The camera spends most of the time on a
microscope and I might take several hundred pictures during a session.

My immediate concern now is the setting up of a database. It's very 
difficult to
find a file in a stack of CDs unless I know the number or date. If 
anyone has a
useful database program* I'd be interested to hear from them. I have to 
do something
soon -- before things get out of hand. I also have several thousand 
video clips, also on

CDs, that need to be cataloged.

* I have MS Access installed in my PC and OpenInsight on the shelf.

Don


Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:


On Apr 15, 2006, at 7:26 AM, Charles Robinson wrote:

I'm with Cesar on this one. RAW may be technically superior, but it's 
a pain to organize and work with. I am just not fussy enough, I guess.


I suppose if I were in the business of producing work for pay I might 
have a different attitude. But who knows?


I disagree with you and Cesar. RAW format processing is more 
complicated than JPEG and consumes more storage space, but it's not so 
much more complex as to be difficult. I much prefer the fact that it 
offsets some of the fussier aspects of controlling image processing to 
some time other than when I'm taking the picture.


What is necessary to use RAW format effectively for a lot of photos is 
a sensible and efficient process for moving the files into your 
computer and operating the RAW conversion process. That's called a 
workflow. *ANY* process that you do that with is a workflow, the 
concept is not restricted to RAW files or processing a thousand 
pictures at a time.


When I was still shooting both RAW and JPEG, I was struck by the fact 
that it took me about the same amount of time and effort to manage the 
JPEG files as it did the RAW files and I was losing photos because of 
JPEG limitations, that's why I no longer use JPEGs very much at all. 
When I do shoot JPEGs nowadays, I find I spend more time editing them 
than I do with the RAW files because I have to do more work on a 
selective basis, due to the narrower dynamic range and fragility of 
editing on [EMAIL PROTECTED] data.


All that said, whatever works to make the photos you want is the right 
way. It's the picture that counts in the end, no one but another 
photographer cares how it was made...


Godfrey



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Re: OT help identifying Russian film?

[Glenn]

Unfortunately, I was not able to get any good frames out of the roll.
Not having a better idea, I developed it under the conditions I would
usually use for PanF+. I can clearly see frame marks from a 6x4.5
mask, but the negatives are just kind of grey. I can barely see a blob
in several of them that might be the outline of a person. I used the
same chemistry on a roll of HP5+ I had sitting around and got good
negatives, so I can only assume that time got the best of this film.
>From how faded the outside of the paper backing was compared to what
was inside the roll, I'd guess this film has been sitting in the
camera for quite a few years. I really shouldn't be, but I'm sort of
disappointed. Last year I developed some film my father shot in 1969
and 1972, and although the negs were grainy and didn't have much
contrast, they were good enough to make some prints from. But that
film was kept in sealed canisters. I didn't get that lucky this time.

Thanks for everybodys help. I'm sorry I don't have any pictures to share.

Glenn

On 4/15/06, Jarek Dabrowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Glenn napisał(a):
> > I was wondering if any of the Russian-speaking list members could help
> > me identify a roll of 120 film that came in a Lubitel 166U I just
> > purchased. I'd like to at least find out if it's color or B&W. Any
> > help translating or pointing me to a website that might help would be
> > appreciated. A picture of the film can be found at:
> >
> >
> >  > href="http://home.comcast.net/~gutenberg14/imgp0571.jpg>http://home.comcast.net/~gutenberg14/imgp0571.jpg
> > 
>
> "Foto-65" B&W film. Sensivity - 65 ASA AFAIR. I used to use it on my
> Lubitel camera in the 80's. This film is exposed.
>
> Jerry
>
>


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Re: RSS/RDF feed (testing help needed)

[David Savage]

Shel, if you think you can beat time by just ignoring it, that ain't
gonna work. :-)

On a practical note, how do you keep appointments?

Dave S.

On 4/16/06, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hmmm ... don't know what a PDA is (Is it like a Blueberry thing?), don't
> own an iPod, don't have any clocks in my house, don't own a watch, haven't
> heard an alarm go off since 1972 ... I guess I can live without RSS stuff.
> Thanks for the lesson.
>
> Shel

Re: Allways save your work

[David Savage]

If you only had a .jpg as a record of something you had done & you
couldn't seem to repeat the feat, the kind of data included in the log
file would help you retrace your steps.

The better option is to save regularly :-)

Dave S

P.S. It also comes in handy when someone asks how you processed a
particular shot. You can copy and paste the text into an email and
send it to them.

On 4/16/06, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I decided to try saving the log in PS CS2.  Perhaps there are more options
> for saving the information than in CS, or perhaps I overlooked something
> earlier.  Here's the log of a test pic I fiddled with, just to see what the
> log would record.
>
> ===
>
> 2006-04-15 15:55:01 Photoshop quit
> 2006-04-15 15:55:06 Photoshop launched
> Reset Brushes of current application
> Reset Tool Presets of current application
> Browse
> Without Maximize
> Without New Window
> 2006-04-15 15:56:42 File almost-kissing.dng opened
> Open
> H:\Temp\Almost Kissing\almost-kissing.dng
> As: Camera Raw
> Model:  "Pentax *istDS"
> Settings: Image Settings
> Space: ProPhoto RGB
> Depth: 16 Bits/channel
> Scale: 1
> Resolution: 330
> Resolution Unit: Pixels/inch
> Levels 1 Layer
> Make adjustment layer
> Using: adjustment layer
> Type: levels
> Adjustment: levels adjustment list
> levels adjustment
> Channel: composite channel
> Input: 0, 246
> Gamma: 0.95
> Image Size
> Image Size
> Width: 900 pixels
> Resolution: 100 per inch
> With Scale Styles
> With Constrain Proportions
> Interpolation: bicubic
> 2006-04-15 15:57:42 File H:\Temp\Almost Kissing\almost-kissing-test.psd
> saved
> Save
> As: Photoshop
> Without Maximize Compatibility
> In: H:\Temp\Almost Kissing\almost-kissing-test.psd
> 2006-04-15 15:57:48 File almost-kissing-test.psd closed
> 2006-04-15 15:57:48 Photoshop quit
> 2006-04-15 16:00:52 Photoshop launched
> Reset Brushes of current application
> Reset Tool Presets of current application
> 2006-04-15 16:01:08 File almost-kissing-test.psd opened
> Open
> H:\Temp\Almost Kissing\almost-kissing-test.psd
> Curves 1 Layer
> Make adjustment layer
> Using: adjustment layer
> Type: curves
> Adjustment: curves adjustment list
> curves adjustment
> Channel: composite channel
> Curve: point list
> point: 0, 4
> point: 15, 24
> point: 60, 71
> point: 125, 122
> point: 255, 255
> Flatten Image
> Flatten Image
> 8 Bits/Channel
> Convert Mode
> Depth: 8
> 2006-04-15 16:02:34 File H:\Temp\Almost Kissing\almost-kissing-test.jpg
> saved
> Save
> As: JPEG
> Quality: 10
> Scans: 3
> Matte: none
> In: H:\Temp\Almost Kissing\
> 2006-04-15 16:02:46 File almost-kissing-test.jpg closed
> Close
> 2006-04-15 16:02:49 Photoshop quit
>
>
>
>
>
> Shel
>
>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > Wrom: OHMKHJYFMYXOEAIJJPHSCRTNHGSWZIDREXC
> > To: 
> > Date: 4/15/2006 2:26:56 PM
> > Subject: Re: Allways save your work
> >
> > That's what I expected.
> >
> > G
> >
> > On Apr 15, 2006, at 1:45 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> >
> > > I tried it but found that it really wasn't very good at showing
> > > exactly
> > > what was done.  It seemed rather general.
> > >
> > > Shel
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>> Another option is to have the edit history log
> > >>> turned on  (Preferences > General)
> > >>
> > >> How useful is the data that it saves? I've never turned it
> > >> on to try  to keep file size to a reasonable level.
> > >>
> > >> G
> > >
> > >
>
>
>

Re: PESO - 'Infamous' GFM Curve redux

[Bob Sullivan]

Bill,
I followed a 5 ton truck with a refrigerator box on the back up that curve.
He barely made it around the curves...delivering icecream bars to the top.
Regards,  Bob S.

On 4/15/06, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kenneth Waller"
> Subject: PESO - 'Infamous' GFM Curve redux
>
>
> > Posted again
> >
> > check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html
>
> I'm still worrying about that one with my Titan.
>
> William Robb
>
>

RE: PESO: My first with the ist D

[Tom C]

I like the compositional aspects of the shot.  I can walk through it on the 
path.  Nice.


Tom C.





From: Rick Womer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: PESO: My first with the ist D
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 19:25:11 -0700 (PDT)

After a couple hundred exposures, I think I'm getting
the hang of this thing.  This shot is another in my
"On My Way to Work" series; the flowering trees have
been gorgeous this week in Philly.

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4339343

ist D, DA 16-45, f/11 @ 1/180, ISO 400, jpg, slightly
cropped in PE2.

Comments invited.

Rick


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Re: PESO: My first with the ist D

[Boris Liberman]

Hi!


After a couple hundred exposures, I think I'm getting
the hang of this thing.  This shot is another in my
"On My Way to Work" series; the flowering trees have
been gorgeous this week in Philly.

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4339343

ist D, DA 16-45, f/11 @ 1/180, ISO 400, jpg, slightly
cropped in PE2.


Rick, may I humbly ask you at what hour you go to work?

You see, to me it looks like it was shot at around 10am under very 
strong sun... Well, at least that's what I have to deal with on daily 
basis here, in the Middle *Ist...


I like the flowers and the way you composed it... Further question - why 
ISO 400???


Boris

Re: PESO - 'Infamous' GFM Curve redux

[Boris Liberman]

Hi!


Posted again
check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html


ABS can save lives, mesa thinknig... ;-)

Seriously however, I hope that one day I'll make it across the Big Pond...

Boris

Re: PESO: Another winding road pano

[Boris Liberman]

Hi!

Here is another winding road pano (same road, a bit *before* the big 
curve).


http://www.lacouture.nom.fr/gallery/v/pano/lacets-small.jpg.html

BTW, I'd greatly appreciate if someone could tell me what is the GFM 
mentioned earlier.


And here a vertical taken at about the same place. Although it's 
probably my best view of this spot, I'm not too happy with it.


http://www.lacouture.nom.fr/gallery/v/pano/Gours-small.jpg.html


Both are excellent. I especially like the little bicyclist on the bottom 
right of the pano... I should however say that the pano feels just a bit 
tight on the sides...


Boris

Re: GESO: How I Spend my Spring Saturday

[Boris Liberman]

Hi!


A Walk In The Park 041506

http://www.brendemuehl.net/images/AWalkInThePark041506/


Collin, they are good but too small... #1947 being my favorite... Walk 
in the Park is always good recreation.


Boris

Re: A question about new Pentax camera and culture

[Boris Liberman]

Hi!

REPLY:Very unlikely. I suspect it is Nikons system used wholesale.Fact: 
The Nikon AF system (the sensor part) is identical to Pentax and was 
developed by Pentax. Speculation: Theres a trade between Nikon and 
Pentax. Nikon got Pentax AF sensors and Pentax got Nikon USM lens drive 
system.In short, the new Pentax will use an identical AF system to 
Nikons D200.  Pål


This weekend I used friend's D70 and Sigma 70-200/2.8 USM zoom... It 
works pretty darn good... So, either Canon or Nikon or Pentax original - 
but if it is USM - it's gonna rock.


Boris

Re: PESO: My first with the ist D

[Paul Stenquist]

Excellent. Well composed and executed.
Paul
On Apr 15, 2006, at 10:25 PM, Rick Womer wrote:


After a couple hundred exposures, I think I'm getting
the hang of this thing.  This shot is another in my
"On My Way to Work" series; the flowering trees have
been gorgeous this week in Philly.

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4339343

ist D, DA 16-45, f/11 @ 1/180, ISO 400, jpg, slightly
cropped in PE2.

Comments invited.

Rick


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Re: A question about new Pentax camera and culture

[Paul Stenquist]

Forever.
On Apr 15, 2006, at 10:25 PM, Joseph Tainter wrote:

"In short, the new Pentax will use an identical AF system to Nikons 
D200. Pål"


So how long will we be able to use our non-USM lenses?

Joe

Re: A question about new Pentax camera and culture

[Adam Maas]

Joseph Tainter wrote:

"In short, the new Pentax will use an identical AF system to Nikons 
D200. Pål"


So how long will we be able to use our non-USM lenses?

Joe


Well, considering that Nikon introduced the basic system back in 
1983(before screwdriver AF, on the F3AF) and still supports both, I 
suspect Pentax won't be any different


-Adam

Re: unsubscribe

[Mishka]

would be too easy :)

best,
mishka (blinking red light)

On 4/15/06, graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Why, not, HAL?
>
> graywolf
> http://www.graywolfphoto.com
> http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf
> "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof"
> ---
>
>
> Mishka wrote:
> > Dave, I cannot let you do that.
> >
> > On 4/15/06, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Equine Photography in York Region
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

Re: unsubscribe

[graywolf]

My keyboard seems to have an excess of commas this Easter Weekend.

graywolf
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graywolf wrote:

Why, not, HAL?

graywolf
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Mishka wrote:

Dave, I cannot let you do that.

On 4/15/06, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Equine Photography in York Region

Re: unsubscribe

[graywolf]

Why, not, HAL?

graywolf
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Dave, I cannot let you do that.

On 4/15/06, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Equine Photography in York Region

Re: A question about new Pentax camera and culture

[Joseph Tainter]

"In short, the new Pentax will use an identical AF system to Nikons 
D200. Pål"


So how long will we be able to use our non-USM lenses?

Joe

PESO: My first with the ist D

[Rick Womer]

After a couple hundred exposures, I think I'm getting
the hang of this thing.  This shot is another in my
"On My Way to Work" series; the flowering trees have
been gorgeous this week in Philly.

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4339343

ist D, DA 16-45, f/11 @ 1/180, ISO 400, jpg, slightly
cropped in PE2.

Comments invited.

Rick


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Re: PESO - 'Infamous' GFM Curve redux

[Scott Loveless]

On 4/15/06, Mat Maessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've got my lines through the curves already picked out. Riding the
> motorcycle up there is going to be fun. At least for some definition
> of fun. :-)
>
> -Mat
>

You obviously failed to take into account the very slow red Titan
directly in front of you.  Or the orange Xterra directly in front of
the Titan.



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Re: OT - Eiffel Tower

[Shel Belinkoff]

Bill,

I used to be a cab driver, and there were a lot of stories passed around at
the cab stands.  By the time any particular driver got a story, it may have
changed any number of times.  There can only be one driver who has heard
something first hand, and even he may embellish or change what he heard for
any number of reasons, such as to make himself  seem more important, or
perhaps what was heard was out of context, misunderstood, or not even true.
There's no guarantee that the passengers talking in the back seat have
accurate information either.

A cabbie may be able to direct you to a good pizza place or the best whore
house in town, but I'd certainly be skeptical of anything that one told me
wrt to politics, government, power, and who's doing what with whom.  I
can't count the number of things I heard from my passengers that later
turned out to be untrue. 

How does that axiom go: Believe 75% of what you see, 50% of what you read,
and nothing of what you hear.  I didn't make that up.  I heard it from one
of my passengers 

Shel



> [Original Message]
> From: William Robb 

> Quite often, yes.
> People say things in taxis that they 
> won't say  elsewhere, and taxis are 
> often used by "important people" who 
> don't want the bother of renting a car.


> From: "Shel Belinkoff"

> > Ahh - the taxi driver - always a great source for 
> > truth and accurate reporting 

Re: PESO - Contemplation

[Keith McGuinness]

Cotty wrote:




Boris,

Seeing as I was about the only one here that liked this pic, 
I'll just say again what a good shot it is.




I like it: the rocks, the sea, the view. However, I do think I 
would have preferred the girl a little higher up in the frame.


Keith McG

Re: OT - Eiffel Tower

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Shel Belinkoff"

Subject: Re: OT - Eiffel Tower



Ahh - the taxi driver - always a great source for truth and accurate
reporting 


Quite often, yes.
Peple say things in taxis that they won't say  elsewhere, and taxis are 
often used by "important people" who don't want the bother of renting a car.


William Robb 

Re: unsubscribe

[William Robb]

Like DUH!!!

You ain't going nowhere, Eastern boy.
WW


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To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 2:58 PM
Subject: unsubscribe





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Re: RSS/RDF feed (testing help needed)

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Roman"

Subject: RSS/RDF feed (testing help needed)


Please open my weblog website feed in your RSS/RDF reader v1.0 to check if 
you can read it. It works nicely on Linux platform, but I'm not sure how 
Windows does. Your feedback is highly appreciated.


http://roman.blakout.net/rss/


My browser doesn't know what to do with it, and neither do I.
Nor do I care to. If it won't open in a simple web browser, it ain't worth 
the time or effort.


William Robb 

Re: Soft boxes, any recommendations

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Bob Shell"

Subject: Re: Soft boxes, any recommendations




On Apr 14, 2006, at 7:56 PM, William Robb wrote:

The larger the light source, the softer the light. Take a 36 inch 
reflector, be it a soft box or umbrella and put it 20 feet from the 
subject, it is effectively a point source, but if you put it a foot  from 
the subject it should give a very soft light.


Right.  Just to make it clearer:  The larger the apparent size of the 
light source from the subject's position, the softer the light.


Oddly enough, the best diagrams I've seen on all this are in an old  book 
called Nude Photography: The French Way published some 20 years  ago by 
Amphoto.


I'm still not sure why I find a small (32") umbrella to give a softer light 
than a large softbox (60") from the same distance.


William Robb 

Re: unsubscribe

[Dave Brooks]

Shit.

I can't even unsub correctly,

My pdml email stopped again, but not the digest or archives, so i thought i'd 
unsub and re sub to see what happened.

Just add another day of ***kups to D Brooks

BTW thanks for the plug Paul,but i cannot recreate that photo.

And its really pissing me off.My Holy Grail now.:-)

D

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From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

Um, Dave. You're not going anywhere. Stick around. Can't imagine why 
you would go. You just recently posted one of the best shots seen here 
in recent memory ? the sepia IR shot. You can't leave. 
Paul 
David J Brooks
Equine, Pets, Bands, Rural Landscape Photography in York Region
www.caughtinmotion.com
Pentax istD, PZ-1, Nikon D1 D2H

PESO: My first with the ist D

[Rick Womer]

After a couple hundred exposures, I think I'm getting
the hang of this thing.  This shot is another in my
"On My Way to Work" series; the flowering trees have
been gorgeous this week in Philly.

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4339343

ist D, DA 16-45, f/11 @ 1/180, ISO 400, jpg, slightly
cropped in PE2.

Comments invited.

Rick


http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW

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Re: Allways save your work

[Shel Belinkoff]

Hi,

I decided to try saving the log in PS CS2.  Perhaps there are more options
for saving the information than in CS, or perhaps I overlooked something
earlier.  Here's the log of a test pic I fiddled with, just to see what the
log would record.

===

2006-04-15 15:55:01 Photoshop quit
2006-04-15 15:55:06 Photoshop launched
Reset Brushes of current application
Reset Tool Presets of current application
Browse
Without Maximize
Without New Window
2006-04-15 15:56:42 File almost-kissing.dng opened
Open
H:\Temp\Almost Kissing\almost-kissing.dng
As: Camera Raw
Model:  “Pentax *istDS”
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Shel



> [Original Message]
> From: Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Date: 4/15/2006 2:26:56 PM
> Subject: Re: Allways save your work
>
> That's what I expected.
>
> G
>
> On Apr 15, 2006, at 1:45 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
>
> > I tried it but found that it really wasn't very good at showing  
> > exactly
> > what was done.  It seemed rather general.
> >
> > Shel
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>> Another option is to have the edit history log
> >>> turned on  (Preferences > General)
> >>
> >> How useful is the data that it saves? I've never turned it
> >> on to try  to keep file size to a reasonable level.
> >>
> >> G
> >
> >

Re: PESO - 'Infamous' GFM Curve redux

[Mat Maessen]

I've got my lines through the curves already picked out. Riding the
motorcycle up there is going to be fun. At least for some definition
of fun. :-)

-Mat

On 4/15/06, Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Posted again
>
> check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html

Re: RSS/RDF feed (testing help needed)

[Shel Belinkoff]

No, I'm not pulling your collective legs.  I don't give a rat's ass about
what time is stamped on my photos.  If I set the time it was just using a
good estimate of what the time actually was.  I can assure you it's not
been adjusted for DST, or corrected in any way.  I just don't give an
effin' damn about the time in my camera.

I use Photoshop, and from what I can see, it doesn't require that the time
and date be set in order for me organize my photos.  Organizing pics by
numbers - any numbers - doesn't work for me anyway.  They are organized by
subjects, such as a folder in which the pics I made in San Francisco with
Godfrey are in one main folder.  Then, they are later organized by subject.
And then by individual pictures.  I remember things by events, not the time
of day they took place.

Duct tape doesn't work to cover the clock in the microwave.  If the numbers
are covered it's impossible to see the time set for cooking or, as I've
often done, for using the timer for developing film.

Why should anyone care whether I have clocks in my home, or if they are set
to the correct time?  I'm sorry i brought it up. Next time I'll keep my
mouth shut about my personal idiosyncrasies.

Shel



> [Original Message]
> From: George Sinos 

> I have a feeling Shel is pulling our leg about not setting the clock in
his DS.
>
> For those of you that haven't thought about the clock.  It's not just
> there so you don't have to buy a watch.  The time and date of exposure
> is embedded in each photo.  If you don't set the clock, this embedded
> info is probably incorrect.
>
> You may not care about this today, but chances are someday you'll buy
> a program that will help you organize your photos.  These programs all
> use the embedded date and time to help you sort and find photos.
>
> As to the clock in the microwave, a strip of duct tape hides the
> flashing numbers.

Re: OT help identifying Russian film?

[Jarek Dabrowski]

Glenn napisał(a):

I was wondering if any of the Russian-speaking list members could help
me identify a roll of 120 film that came in a Lubitel 166U I just
purchased. I'd like to at least find out if it's color or B&W. Any
help translating or pointing me to a website that might help would be
appreciated. A picture of the film can be found at:


http://home.comcast.net/~gutenberg14/imgp0571.jpg>http://home.comcast.net/~gutenberg14/imgp0571.jpg



"Foto-65" B&W film. Sensivity - 65 ASA AFAIR. I used to use it on my 
Lubitel camera in the 80's. This film is exposed.


Jerry

Re: OT help identifying Russian film?

[Igor Roshchin]

Glenn,

Just in case, - to reassure you.
You are correct, the first line, and the same note on the red portion -
at the bottom on the photo, - says "exposed".
THen: black-and-white (as Bob has already wrote)
Third line says : photo-65. - I'd say the film speed in ISO.

Igor

Sat, 15 Apr 2006 11:44:47 -0700
Glenn wrote:

Thank you! My guess would be that the first line is a warning that the
film is exposed. The same word appears around the paper backing as
well. The roll was on the take-up spool in the camera, and there were
visible marks from someone trying to pry it out (they apparently
didn't realize the winding knob pulls out). Now I just have to decide
if I want to do some clip tests to come up with a developing time or
just throw the whole roll in a tank and guess.

Glenn

Re: unsubscribe

[Mishka]

Dave, I cannot let you do that.

On 4/15/06, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Equine Photography in York Region
>
>

Re: unsubscribe

[Paul Stenquist]

Um, Dave. You're not going anywhere. Stick around. Can't imagine why 
you would go. You just recently posted one of the best shots seen here 
in recent memory — the sepia IR shot. You can't leave.

Paul


On Apr 15, 2006, at 5:32 PM, Cotty wrote:


On 15/4/06, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:




Equine Photography in York Region


You have got to be kidding Dave.




Cheers,
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Re: A question about new Pentax camera and culture

[Paul Stenquist]

Good point. All very likely.

On Apr 15, 2006, at 4:28 PM, Pål Jensen wrote:


Boris wrote:

Finally, one of the guys mentions that the new flagship model (due in 
Autumn) is going to have USM. In fact, it is going to be very similar 
to Canon's USM because Canon used Pentax patents... Please don't beat 
me here - I am merely translating what's written there...
REPLY:Very unlikely. I suspect it is Nikons system used 
wholesale.Fact: The Nikon AF system (the sensor part) is identical to 
Pentax and was developed by Pentax. Speculation: Theres a trade 
between Nikon and Pentax. Nikon got Pentax AF sensors and Pentax got 
Nikon USM lens drive system.In short, the new Pentax will use an 
identical AF system to Nikons D200.  Pål

Re: PESO - 'Infamous' GFM Curve redux

[Patrice LACOUTURE (GMail)]

Looks like we go for a Mountain Road Special...

I like it... except the track or parking area on the left of the far 
curve... It somewhat spoils the curve...


Thanks for posting this, I can figure out this GFM after all.

Patrice

Kenneth Waller a écrit :

Posted again
check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html


Kenneth Waller

PESO - 'Infamous' GFM Curve redux

[Kenneth Waller]

Posted again 


check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html


Kenneth Waller

Re: PESO: Another winding road pano

[Patrice LACOUTURE (GMail)]

Rick Womer a écrit :

Patrice,

The first photo shows very well the convoluted
landscape and winding road, but lacks a center of
interest--the eye just keeps wandering around it.
  

True. I prefer the other pano with the big curve, too.

In the second photo, I have an urge to drag the frame
to the left.  The dark far right doesn't add anything,
and it looks as though there may be some elements to
the left that would lead the eye to the peak.
  

Here's a new version I cranked out after this comment:

http://www.lacouture.nom.fr/gallery/v/Provence/Gours-small2.jpg.html

I couldn't  remove too much of the right side, though.  I also cropped 
quite a lot at the bottom, so the track gets stronger. The result is not 
a pano at all anymore, more like a 4/3 format, which I usually dislike 
(I invariably consider it as a shy compromise between the square and 2/3 
formats). In this version, a portion of road also appears on the left 
(around the middle vertically), that does additional harm to the 
composition.


All in all, I think I'll forget about this picture and move to something 
else.


Patrice


Rick

--- "Patrice LACOUTURE (GMail)"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  

Hi all,

Here is another winding road pano (same road, a bit
*before* the big curve).




http://www.lacouture.nom.fr/gallery/v/pano/lacets-small.jpg.html
  

BTW, I'd greatly appreciate if someone could tell me
what is the GFM 
mentioned earlier.


And here a vertical taken at about the same place.
Although it's 
probably my best view of this spot, I'm not too

happy with it.




http://www.lacouture.nom.fr/gallery/v/pano/Gours-small.jpg.html
  

Regards






http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW

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RE: GESO: How I Spend my Spring Saturday

[Bob W]

That looks like a nice park. The photos seem to communicate that very well,
along with the feeling of spring being in the air.

I go running by the river most evenings, and there's a definite sense of the
season changing at the moment, despite the wet weather. Today a pair of
wagtails were still out well after sunset, and amused me by hopping up and
down in front of me for about 100 metres as I ran. Yesterday the sky seemed
to be full of grey herons coming in to land at the local ecology park, where
my run takes me.

http://www.urbanecology.org.uk/gpep.html

And, of course, there are cormorants everywhere.

--
Cheers,
 Bob 

> -Original Message-
> From: Collin R Brendemuehl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 15 April 2006 22:29
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: GESO: How I Spend my Spring Saturday
> 
> A Walk In The Park 041506
> 
> http://www.brendemuehl.net/images/AWalkInThePark041506/
> 

Re: RSS/RDF feed (testing help needed)

[Shel Belinkoff]

Well, it's not in my ~house~ it's in the camera, and I never look at it and
don't think I ever set it.  There's a clock in the microwave oven as well,
but it hasn't had the right time in more than a dozen years.  When the
power goes out I just push in some arbitrary number that "sets" the clock
so the microwave can be used.

Shel



> [Original Message]
> From: Cotty 

> Shel Belinkoff said:
>
>Hmmm ... don't know what a PDA is (Is it like a Blueberry thing?), don't
>own an iPod, don't have any clocks in my house, don't own a watch, haven't
>heard an alarm go off since 1972 ... 
>
> You do have a clock sir. It's in your *ist Ds.
>
> Har!!

Re: unsubscribe

[Collin R Brendemuehl]

Who's ready for some "Hotel California" quotes?

:)

Sincerely,

Collin Brendemuehl
http://www.brendemuehl.net

"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose"
-- Jim Elliott

Re: unsubscribe

[Cotty]

On 15/4/06, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:

>
>
>Equine Photography in York Region

You have got to be kidding Dave.




Cheers,
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GESO: How I Spend my Spring Saturday

[Collin R Brendemuehl]

A Walk In The Park 041506

http://www.brendemuehl.net/images/AWalkInThePark041506/

It was a rough day.  I'm taking more Prednisone for my shoulder.  Again.
But this a.m. I made the mistake of taking my full daily dose all at once.
(It was just 2 pills.)  So today I'm full of "energy".  Steroid 
energy.  And if

it's not burned off  then it can become a paranoia frustration.  So I went for
a walk a mile or two, carrying the DS, etc.

All pics were Tokina 80-200/2.8 on the DS, 6*** mode.  Monopod.
(But still some shaking.  Alas.  Perhaps with my age I now need AS.)

I'm really going to have to be more careful about my exposure methods.
Got that woodpecker.  I usually don't see them so low.  But even cropped
they came out pretty well -- at lest for showing on the www.  But I never
really do birding or other wildlife work.  Just something to fill the time.
Do wish I'd taken the Tokina 400mm along!

Anyway, enjoy & comment as you may choose.


Sincerely,

Collin Brendemuehl
http://www.brendemuehl.net

"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose"
-- Jim Elliott

Re: Allways save your work

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

That's what I expected.

G

On Apr 15, 2006, at 1:45 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

I tried it but found that it really wasn't very good at showing  
exactly

what was done.  It seemed rather general.

Shel





Another option is to have the edit history log
turned on  (Preferences > General)


How useful is the data that it saves? I've never turned it
on to try  to keep file size to a reasonable level.

G

Re: RSS/RDF feed (testing help needed)

[George Sinos]

I have a feeling Shel is pulling our leg about not setting the clock in his DS.

For those of you that haven't thought about the clock.  It's not just
there so you don't have to buy a watch.  The time and date of exposure
is embedded in each photo.  If you don't set the clock, this embedded
info is probably incorrect.

You may not care about this today, but chances are someday you'll buy
a program that will help you organize your photos.  These programs all
use the embedded date and time to help you sort and find photos.

As to the clock in the microwave, a strip of duct tape hides the
flashing numbers.

See you later, gs

Re: unsubscribe

[Bob Sullivan]

You know better than this Dave, you can't unscribe!
(Well at least not here...)
Bob S.

On 4/15/06, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Equine Photography in York Region
>
>

Re: RSS/RDF feed (testing help needed)

[Bob Sullivan]

Shel,
You're a luddite!  ;-)
Regards,  Bob S.

On 4/15/06, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, it's not in my ~house~ it's in the camera, and I never look at it and
> don't think I ever set it.  There's a clock in the microwave oven as well,
> but it hasn't had the right time in more than a dozen years.  When the
> power goes out I just push in some arbitrary number that "sets" the clock
> so the microwave can be used.
>
> Shel
>
>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Cotty
>
> > Shel Belinkoff said:
> >
> >Hmmm ... don't know what a PDA is (Is it like a Blueberry thing?), don't
> >own an iPod, don't have any clocks in my house, don't own a watch, haven't
> >heard an alarm go off since 1972 ...
> >
> > You do have a clock sir. It's in your *ist Ds.
> >
> > Har!!
>
>
>

unsubscribe

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Equine Photography in York Region

Re: PESO: Another winding road pano

[Patrice LACOUTURE]

Thank you Doug and Bob for this info, and for the links.

Nice to put a face on names I see in the list.

Patrice

2006/4/15, Doug Franklin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Bob Sullivan wrote:
> > GFM = GrandFather Mountain.
>
> > On 4/15/06, Patrice LACOUTURE (GMail) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>BTW, I'd greatly appreciate if someone could tell me what is the GFM
> >>mentioned earlier.
>
> If you take a look at
>
> http://nutdriver.org/GFM2004.shtml
>
> you'll find links to photos taken by a number of PDML members at the
> 2004 Nature Photo Weekend at GFM.
>
> --
> Thanks,
> DougF (KG4LMZ)
>
>

Re: Allways save your work

[Shel Belinkoff]

I tried it but found that it really wasn't very good at showing exactly
what was done.  It seemed rather general.

Shel




> > Another option is to have the edit history log 
> > turned on  (Preferences > General)
>
> How useful is the data that it saves? I've never turned it 
> on to try  to keep file size to a reasonable level.
>
> G

Re: RSS/RDF feed (testing help needed)

[Shel Belinkoff]

Hmmm ... Yes, there's a clock in my computer but it disappeared a while
ago, and I never reset the machine to show it.  

Shel



> [Original Message]
> From: Godfrey DiGiorgi <

> > You do have a clock sir. It's in your *ist Ds.
>
> Not to mention his computer...

Re: OT help identifying Russian film?

[Bob Shell]

On Apr 15, 2006, at 2:43 PM, Glenn wrote:


Now I just have to decide
if I want to do some clip tests to come up with a developing time or
just throw the whole roll in a tank and guess.


D-76, eight minutes at 68 degrees F (20 degrees C) works pretty well  
for most black and white films.


Bob

Re: A question about new Pentax camera and culture

[Pål Jensen]

Boris wrote:

Finally, one of the guys mentions that the new flagship model (due in 
Autumn) is going to have USM. In fact, it is going to be very similar to 
Canon's USM because Canon used Pentax patents... Please don't beat me here - 
I am merely translating what's written there...
REPLY:Very unlikely. I suspect it is Nikons system used wholesale.Fact: The 
Nikon AF system (the sensor part) is identical to Pentax and was developed 
by Pentax. Speculation: Theres a trade between Nikon and Pentax. Nikon got 
Pentax AF sensors and Pentax got Nikon USM lens drive system.In short, the 
new Pentax will use an identical AF system to Nikons D200.  Pål 

Re: Allways save your work

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Apr 15, 2006, at 4:33 AM, David Savage wrote:
Another option is to have the edit history log turned on  
(Preferences > General)


How useful is the data that it saves? I've never turned it on to try  
to keep file size to a reasonable level.


G

Re: OT - Las Vegas, (was Eiffel Tower)

[Bob Shell]

On Apr 15, 2006, at 2:58 PM, Don Williams wrote:

I think it's possible that the restaurant was moved or maybe even  
closed about the same time (1987?) the Flamingo was renovated,
or rebuilt, or whatever they did to it. I can't remember eating  
there after that time. But I was there the year they did all that
reconstruction. Another thing I remember was the sidewalk was being  
relaid -- very ornate -- as well. So if you know

when that happened you'll know more than I.



I remember the renovation of the Flamingo.  Was that right after  
Hilton bought it? I don't have a clue about the year, though.


Last time I was there I got caught over near the CVS on the strip in  
a hailstorm.  Without an umbrella!!


Bob

Re: Remarkable lens for sale

[Tim Sherburne]

Just catching up on some old postings (yeah, I know...). Joe, what was 
the outcome of this auction?


Tim

Joseph Tainter wrote:
Respecting that someone on the list might want it I won't divulge the 
location. Somewhere in the world, right now, on eBay, there is a 300 mm. 
F1.4 lens for sale in Pentax mount.


At least that is what the listing says.

Joe

Re: A question about new Pentax camera and culture

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

DPReview.com is as bad and as good as any other review site or magazine.

G

On Apr 15, 2006, at 12:24 PM, Thibouille wrote:



Really I thought they were mostly sold to Canon ?


Well, Dpreview is very tight with the manufacturers. So if there's  
any
info out there, they can't publish it due to embargo, or they just  
don't

want to piss off their advertisers.  It's not really a rumor site.

-Ryan Brooks


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Re: Who's Not Shooting Raw?

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Apr 15, 2006, at 7:26 AM, Charles Robinson wrote:

I'm with Cesar on this one.  RAW may be technically superior, but  
it's a pain to organize and work with.  I am just not fussy enough,  
I guess.


I suppose if I were in the business of producing work for pay I  
might have a different attitude.  But who knows?


I disagree with you and Cesar. RAW format processing is more  
complicated than JPEG and consumes more storage space, but it's not  
so much more complex as to be difficult. I much prefer the fact that  
it offsets some of the fussier aspects of controlling image  
processing to some time other than when I'm taking the picture.


What is necessary to use RAW format effectively for a lot of photos  
is a sensible and efficient process for moving the files into your  
computer and operating the RAW conversion process. That's called a  
workflow. *ANY* process that you do that with is a workflow, the  
concept is not restricted to RAW files or processing a thousand  
pictures at a time.


When I was still shooting both RAW and JPEG, I was struck by the fact  
that it took me about the same amount of time and effort to manage  
the JPEG files as it did the RAW files and I was losing photos  
because of JPEG limitations, that's why I no longer use JPEGs very  
much at all. When I do shoot JPEGs nowadays, I find I spend more time  
editing them than I do with the RAW files because I have to do more  
work on a selective basis, due to the narrower dynamic range and  
fragility of editing on [EMAIL PROTECTED] data.


All that said, whatever works to make the photos you want is the  
right way. It's the picture that counts in the end, no one but  
another photographer cares how it was made...


Godfrey

Re: A question about new Pentax camera and culture

[Thibouille]

Really I thought they were mostly sold to Canon ?


> Well, Dpreview is very tight with the manufacturers. So if there's any
> info out there, they can't publish it due to embargo, or they just don't
> want to piss off their advertisers.  It's not really a rumor site.
>
> -Ryan Brooks

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Re: PESO: Another winding road pano

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Apr 15, 2006, at 3:26 AM, Patrice LACOUTURE (GMail) wrote:

Here is another winding road pano (same road, a bit *before* the  
big curve).

http://www.lacouture.nom.fr/gallery/v/pano/lacets-small.jpg.html


Another lovely scenic of this location. Nicely done!

And here a vertical taken at about the same place. Although it's  
probably my best view of this spot, I'm not too happy with it.

http://www.lacouture.nom.fr/gallery/v/pano/Gours-small.jpg.html


Hmm. I agree with you: it's not as strong as the pano.

Godfrey

Re: RSS/RDF feed (testing help needed)

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Apr 15, 2006, at 10:54 AM, Cotty wrote:


On 15/4/06, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed:

Hmmm ... don't know what a PDA is (Is it like a Blueberry thing?),  
don't
own an iPod, don't have any clocks in my house, don't own a watch,  
haven't

heard an alarm go off since 1972 ...


You do have a clock sir. It's in your *ist Ds.


Not to mention his computer...

Godfrey

Re: was Re: DS3?

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Roman,

Why did you quote that way? The piece of what I posted that you  
quoted is correctly attributed to Bertil Holmberg.


Godfrey

On Apr 15, 2006, at 10:18 AM, Roman wrote:

You forgot cooking, laundry, ironing and house cleaning all that  
things DS3 needs to do. Anything else? Uh... we just don't speak of  
other needs that must be taken care of. Whether camera should do it  
all? :-P


--- you wrote --

From: Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: DS3?



Shake Reduction ... Shaking dust  from the sensor ...




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Re: OT - Las Vegas, (was Eiffel Tower)

[Don Williams]

Don Williams wrote:

Bob Shell wrote:


On Apr 15, 2006, at 10:59 AM, Don Williams wrote:

Its still the mob "but they've gone legit" -- according to a taxi 
driver, the last time I was there.
Perhaps he watched too many Godfather movies? One thing I found to 
my liking was the food.
One Sea Food restaurant I liked in particular was round behind the 
Flamingo. I just can't remember
the name. I had a drinks coaster with the details ... but it's gone 
long ago. They made clam chowder
almost as good as you can find on Fisherman's Wharf -- but many 
times more expensive.



I've been going to Las Vegas for 30+ years, usually a couple of times 
a year. I've watched the place change, and certainly not for the 
better. When the mob ran it you could walk around anywhere in town 
and not fear street crime because the mob didn't tolerate it. Bad for 
business, you know. Now the place is dangerous if you get far off the 
tourist track. They have gangs. Lots of crime. Smog. All the result 
of uncontrolled growth. I wish we could go back to the Vegas of the 
old days.


I don't recognize the seafood place you're talking about. When was 
that? My favorite restaurants there now are the Rosewood Grill and 
Smith & Wollensky. I only like to go to Smith & Wollensky when 
someone else is picking up the tab, though!


There's also a great little family-owned Italian place over on W. 
Sahara that I go to, but I can't recollect the name at the moment. 
It's a couple of blocks off Las Vegas Blvd. on the left.


Bob



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The last time I was certainly there was about 1987, you may remember 
they were redoing the Flamingo and the sidewalk was against a wooden 
hoarding for a long time. Pipes and stuff lay about everywhere and it 
was quite dangerous walking by. There was an enormous parking lot near 
the restaurant and on the far side of the lot the Las Vegas Medical 
Center. I also remember Smith and Wollensky. Peter Norton had a 
birthday party there in about 1991. That was before he sold his soul 
to the Devil. He was a good friend.


Don

I think it's possible that the restaurant was moved or maybe even closed 
about the same time (1987?) the Flamingo was renovated,
or rebuilt, or whatever they did to it. I can't remember eating there 
after that time. But I was there the year they did all that
reconstruction. Another thing I remember was the sidewalk was being 
relaid -- very ornate -- as well. So if you know

when that happened you'll know more than I.

Don

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Re: PESO: pano in southern france

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

http://www.lacouture.nom.fr/gallery/v/PESO/pano-small.jpg.html

It's a low mountain road near Marseille, France. I shot this picture
today at lunch time. The weather was not that good for shooting  
(summer

weather coming back) but in the end I kinda like the foggy background.


Very nice ... kind of a classic look at those hills and roads.  
Reminds me of some of the hill roads near hear on the way to the Lick  
Observatory.


Godfrey

Re: OT help identifying Russian film?

[Glenn]

Thank you! My guess would be that the first line is a warning that the
film is exposed. The same word appears around the paper backing as
well. The roll was on the take-up spool in the camera, and there were
visible marks from someone trying to pry it out (they apparently
didn't realize the winding knob pulls out). Now I just have to decide
if I want to do some clip tests to come up with a developing time or
just throw the whole roll in a tank and guess.

Glenn

On 4/15/06, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I can help! It's black & white. The 2nd line says cherno-byelaya, which is
> black-white!
>
> The first line says Exponirovanya, which presumably is something to do with
> exposure, but otherwise, I dunno (nye znayu!).
>
> --
> Cheers,
>  Bob
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Glenn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 15 April 2006 18:41
> > To: pdml
> > Subject: OT help identifying Russian film?
> >
> > I was wondering if any of the Russian-speaking list members
> > could help me identify a roll of 120 film that came in a
> > Lubitel 166U I just purchased. I'd like to at least find out
> > if it's color or B&W. Any help translating or pointing me to
> > a website that might help would be appreciated. A picture of
> > the film can be found at:
> >
> >
> >  > href="http://home.comcast.net/~gutenberg14/imgp0571.jpg>http:/
> /home.comcast.net/~gutenberg14/imgp0571.jpg
> > 
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Glenn
> >
> >
> > --
> > Love all, trust a few, do wrong to none.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>


--
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RE: OT help identifying Russian film?

[Bob W]

I can help! It's black & white. The 2nd line says cherno-byelaya, which is
black-white!

The first line says Exponirovanya, which presumably is something to do with
exposure, but otherwise, I dunno (nye znayu!).

--
Cheers,
 Bob 

> -Original Message-
> From: Glenn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 15 April 2006 18:41
> To: pdml
> Subject: OT help identifying Russian film?
> 
> I was wondering if any of the Russian-speaking list members 
> could help me identify a roll of 120 film that came in a 
> Lubitel 166U I just purchased. I'd like to at least find out 
> if it's color or B&W. Any help translating or pointing me to 
> a website that might help would be appreciated. A picture of 
> the film can be found at:
> 
> 
>  href="http://home.comcast.net/~gutenberg14/imgp0571.jpg>http:/
/home.comcast.net/~gutenberg14/imgp0571.jpg
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Glenn
> 
> 
> --
> Love all, trust a few, do wrong to none.
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: A question about new Pentax camera and culture

[Boris Liberman]

Hi!


Because the camera is not supposed to be shown to the public yet,
and the Russian showing wasn't officially sanctioned by Pentax.
That means this isn't official information about a new camera,
but just details about a pre-production prototype.  It might
not ever make it to production - after all, it's generally
believed that there is at least one working MZ-D being used
within Pentax.  It's good for speculation, but not for news.

One thing I'd like to know is whether there were power contacts
and/or additional signal contact pins in the lens mount.


Indeed, I've been outside Russia for too long... Isn't it *extremely* 
stupid of Russian representative to do such a thing as go against the 
will of mother company? They could simply fire them all and hire another 
bunch of people to do the job...


The puzzlement goes on.

Boris

Re: RSS/RDF feed (testing help needed)

[Cotty]

On 15/4/06, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Hmmm ... don't know what a PDA is (Is it like a Blueberry thing?), don't
>own an iPod, don't have any clocks in my house, don't own a watch, haven't
>heard an alarm go off since 1972 ... 

You do have a clock sir. It's in your *ist Ds.

Har!!




Cheers,
  Cotty


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_

OT help identifying Russian film?

[Glenn]

I was wondering if any of the Russian-speaking list members could help
me identify a roll of 120 film that came in a Lubitel 166U I just
purchased. I'd like to at least find out if it's color or B&W. Any
help translating or pointing me to a website that might help would be
appreciated. A picture of the film can be found at:


http://home.comcast.net/~gutenberg14/imgp0571.jpg>http://home.comcast.net/~gutenberg14/imgp0571.jpg


Thanks,
Glenn


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Love all, trust a few, do wrong to none.

RE: RSS/RDF feed (testing help needed)

[Bob W]

> 
> Hmmm ... don't know what a PDA is (Is it like a Blueberry 
> thing?), 

yes, but perhaps more of a strawberry. PDA stands for 'Pineapple Diet
Adapter', maintaining the fruity connection. For people who dislike fruit,
but still need their 5-a-day, it downloads into their brain the belief that
they have eaten the requisite drupelets etc.

> don't own an iPod, don't have any clocks in my 
> house, don't own a watch, haven't heard an alarm go off since 
> 1972 ... I guess I can live without RSS stuff. 
> Thanks for the lesson.
> 

No problem. Most of the world's population, for most of history, has done
without all of those things (apart from fruit). It's all froth, but
sometimes froth is nice to have, when basic needs have been satisfied.

Bob

was Re: DS3?

[Roman]

You forgot cooking, laundry, ironing and house cleaning all that things 
DS3 needs to do. Anything else? Uh... we just don't speak of other needs 
that must be taken care of. Whether camera should do it all? :-P


--- you wrote --

From: Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: DS3?


Shake Reduction ... Shaking dust  
from the sensor ...




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Re: A question about new Pentax camera and culture

[John Francis]

On Sat, Apr 15, 2006 at 05:52:46PM +0200, Boris Liberman wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> Folks, from Russian Penta Club forum we know that K100D (or whatever is 
> the name) is new Pentax DSLR. It has IS and better AF which is 
> significant step up for Pentax.
> 
> Why it is not mentioned anywhere else? Say, www.dpreview.com hasn't a 
> word about it...
> 
> On PDML we have few folks who can read Russian (including me)... It 
> simply puzzles heck out of me - why K100D is not mentioned anywhere else?
> 
> Enlighten me, will you?

Because the camera is not supposed to be shown to the public yet,
and the Russian showing wasn't officially sanctioned by Pentax.
That means this isn't official information about a new camera,
but just details about a pre-production prototype.  It might
not ever make it to production - after all, it's generally
believed that there is at least one working MZ-D being used
within Pentax.  It's good for speculation, but not for news.

One thing I'd like to know is whether there were power contacts
and/or additional signal contact pins in the lens mount.

RE: RSS/RDF feed (testing help needed)

[Shel Belinkoff]

Hmmm ... don't know what a PDA is (Is it like a Blueberry thing?), don't
own an iPod, don't have any clocks in my house, don't own a watch, haven't
heard an alarm go off since 1972 ... I guess I can live without RSS stuff. 
Thanks for the lesson.

Shel



> [Original Message]
> From: Bob W 

> it's software you can use to let websites send information to you as it
> changes. One of the uses of this is, for example, to be able to hear radio
> broadcasts, if you can't listen to them at the scheduled broadcast time.
> Another is something like the Magnum In Motion essays. They can send them
to
> your PC, PDA, iPod or whatever whenever a new one is published. It means
you
> don't have to keep checking these different sites yourself for an update.
> Kind of like the difference between looking at a clock from time to time
> when something's coming up that you don't want to miss, and having an
alarm
> go off.


> > From: Shel Belinkoff
> > Roman, I've no idea what an "RSS/RDF reader v.1.0" is.

Re: OT - Eiffel Tower

[Shel Belinkoff]

There are a lot of differences - personally, I preferred it when the "mob"
ran Vegas.  The place was cleaner and there was less crime, just to name a
couple of things.  One needn't be a "connoisseur" to see that, and to feel
the difference in one's safety when walking from a parking lot to a casino,
or if straying off the beaten path.  Many corporations have their own ways
of robbing us, in some situations perhaps far more insidious and damaging
than the methods used by the mob.

Shel



> [Original Message]
> From: Mark Roberts

> Shel Belinkoff wrote:
>
> >The "mob" influence has been long gone from Vegas.  Corporate 
> >interests now rule the place.
>
> I suppose you have to be a real connoisseur of this kind of thing to
> appreciate the difference here...

RE: RSS/RDF feed (testing help needed)

[Bob W]

it's software you can use to let websites send information to you as it
changes. One of the uses of this is, for example, to be able to hear radio
broadcasts, if you can't listen to them at the scheduled broadcast time.
Another is something like the Magnum In Motion essays. They can send them to
your PC, PDA, iPod or whatever whenever a new one is published. It means you
don't have to keep checking these different sites yourself for an update.
Kind of like the difference between looking at a clock from time to time
when something's coming up that you don't want to miss, and having an alarm
go off.

--
Cheers,
 Bob 

> -Original Message-
> From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 15 April 2006 17:01
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: RE: RSS/RDF feed (testing help needed)
> 
> Roman, I've no idea what an "RSS/RDF reader v.1.0" is.
> 
> Shel
> 
> 
> 
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Roman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> > Please open my weblog website feed in your RSS/RDF reader v1.0 to 
> > check if you can read it. It works nicely on Linux 
> platform, but I'm 
> > not sure how Windows does. Your feedback is highly appreciated.
> >
> > http://roman.blakout.net/rss/
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: OT - Eiffel Tower

[Mark Roberts]

Shel Belinkoff wrote:

>The "mob" influence has been long gone from Vegas.  Corporate interests now
>rule the place.

I suppose you have to be a real connoisseur of this kind of thing to
appreciate the difference here...

Re: RSS/RDF feed (testing help needed)

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Shel,

Full info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RSS_(protocol)

---
RSS is a family of web feed formats, specified in XML and used for  
Web syndication. RSS is used by (among other things) news websites,  
weblogs and podcasting. The abbreviation is variously used to refer  
to the following standards:


Really Simple Syndication (RSS 2.0)
Rich Site Summary (RSS 0.91, RSS 1.0)
RDF Site Summary (RSS 0.9 and 1.0)
Real-time Simple Syndication (RSS 2.0)
---

Godfrey

On Apr 15, 2006, at 9:00 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:


Roman, I've no idea what an "RSS/RDF reader v.1.0" is.

Shel




[Original Message]
From: Roman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Please open my weblog website feed in your RSS/RDF reader v1.0 to  
check
if you can read it. It works nicely on Linux platform, but I'm not  
sure

how Windows does. Your feedback is highly appreciated.

http://roman.blakout.net/rss/

Re: OT - Las Vegas, (was Eiffel Tower)

[Don Williams]

Bob Shell wrote:


On Apr 15, 2006, at 10:59 AM, Don Williams wrote:

Its still the mob "but they've gone legit" -- according to a taxi 
driver, the last time I was there.
Perhaps he watched too many Godfather movies? One thing I found to my 
liking was the food.
One Sea Food restaurant I liked in particular was round behind the 
Flamingo. I just can't remember
the name. I had a drinks coaster with the details ... but it's gone 
long ago. They made clam chowder
almost as good as you can find on Fisherman's Wharf -- but many times 
more expensive.



I've been going to Las Vegas for 30+ years, usually a couple of times 
a year. I've watched the place change, and certainly not for the 
better. When the mob ran it you could walk around anywhere in town and 
not fear street crime because the mob didn't tolerate it. Bad for 
business, you know. Now the place is dangerous if you get far off the 
tourist track. They have gangs. Lots of crime. Smog. All the result of 
uncontrolled growth. I wish we could go back to the Vegas of the old 
days.


I don't recognize the seafood place you're talking about. When was 
that? My favorite restaurants there now are the Rosewood Grill and 
Smith & Wollensky. I only like to go to Smith & Wollensky when someone 
else is picking up the tab, though!


There's also a great little family-owned Italian place over on W. 
Sahara that I go to, but I can't recollect the name at the moment. 
It's a couple of blocks off Las Vegas Blvd. on the left.


Bob



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The last time I was certainly there was about 1987, you may remember 
they were redoing the Flamingo and the sidewalk was against a wooden 
hoarding for a long time. Pipes and stuff lay about everywhere and it 
was quite dangerous walking by. There was an enormous parking lot near 
the restaurant and on the far side of the lot the Las Vegas Medical 
Center. I also remember Smith and Wollensky. Peter Norton had a birthday 
party there in about 1991. That was before he sold his soul to the 
Devil. He was a good friend.


Don

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41660 TOIVAKKA – Finland - +358400706616

Re: RSS/RDF feed (testing help needed)

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Mac OS X, the Safari browser has RSS/RDF browsing built in. When I  
open this link, all it does is download a file that nothing can read.  
The RSS indicator does not appear when I remove the 'rss/' extension  
either.


Godfrey

On Apr 15, 2006, at 8:31 AM, Roman wrote:

Please open my weblog website feed in your RSS/RDF reader v1.0 to  
check if you can read it. It works nicely on Linux platform, but  
I'm not sure how Windows does. Your feedback is highly appreciated.


http://roman.blakout.net/rss/

Mucho gracias and regards in advance,
Roman.

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RE: PESO: Another winding road pano

[Tom C]

I like shot #1.  There is so much of interest in it.  I love mountain roads.

Tom C.





From: "Patrice LACOUTURE (GMail)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: PESO: Another winding road pano
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 12:26:39 +0200

Hi all,

Here is another winding road pano (same road, a bit *before* the big 
curve).


http://www.lacouture.nom.fr/gallery/v/pano/lacets-small.jpg.html

BTW, I'd greatly appreciate if someone could tell me what is the GFM 
mentioned earlier.


And here a vertical taken at about the same place. Although it's probably 
my best view of this spot, I'm not too happy with it.


http://www.lacouture.nom.fr/gallery/v/pano/Gours-small.jpg.html

Regards

Re: Aurora Watch

[Tom C]

According to www.spaceweather.com some were in evidence depending on 
time/location.  It clouded up in the early evening here.  A chance for more 
tonight, though maybe not quite as much of a chance.


Tom C.





From: Don Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Aurora Watch
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 14:51:05 +0300

From Toivakka, closer to the Arctic Circle than most of our members, except 
some Canadians perhaps, I haven't
seen any lights, despite spending some time outside last night. What a 
lousy sentence. I apologize.


Don

Bob Sullivan wrote:
Erg = amount of energy expended by a Fly doing a push-up on a wall.  Bob 
S.


On 4/15/06, mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Cotty wrote:


On 14/4/06, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:




Accoring to NASA, we in the middle UK will be
hit with between 0 and 0.1 ergs


I already had bacon and ergs this morning.



The NASA range goes up to 10, which I think is rather overerging it.











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personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams/
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RE: RSS/RDF feed (testing help needed)

[Shel Belinkoff]

Roman, I've no idea what an "RSS/RDF reader v.1.0" is.

Shel



> [Original Message]
> From: Roman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Please open my weblog website feed in your RSS/RDF reader v1.0 to check 
> if you can read it. It works nicely on Linux platform, but I'm not sure 
> how Windows does. Your feedback is highly appreciated.
>
> http://roman.blakout.net/rss/

RE: Tips for Photographing Black Cats

[Anthony Farr]

Look for backlit situations that give you edge lighting to define the black
cats' silhouettes.  Add a little fill flash if you like, or go au naturale
against a black background for the ultimate in rim lit, low key animal
portraiture.

regards,
Anthony Farr 

> -Original Message-
> From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> There are two black cats at Casa Belinkoff, Tyler and Buddy, whom I enjoy
> photographing every now and then.  For the most part the pics are OK,
> certainly fine for web and email.  However, they can probably stand some
> improvement.  So, does anyone have any tips for photographing black cats
> (and other critters, too), so that detail in the shadows is maintained,
> highlights aren't fried and lok natural (especially in bright or contrasty
> light).  Suggestions for working on the pics in Photoshop would be welcome
> as well.
> 
> Regardless of film or digital, I've never gotten a really great photo ...
> 
> 
> Shel

Re: DS3?

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Sounds like you missed the postings yesterday ...

At a Russian photo exposition, Pentax has shown a 6Mpixel DS  
derivative, allegedly named the K100D, which includes upgrades to the  
AF system and image stabilization. Supposedly this is due for release  
in the very near future, before the 10Mpixel body.


I'm not sure about referring to the 10Mpixel body as "a behemoth" or  
what you mean by "like the small frame size of the DS/DL". The  
10Mpixel body is most likely going to have the same 16x24mm format  
dimension as the DS/DL. The prototype body looked about 1cm taller  
and thicker than the DS, from the pictures out of PMA. Hardly a  
behemoth, imo.


No matter. Head over to the DPReview.com Pentax SLR forums and do a  
little hunt for the K100D. There are several threads on it from  
yesterday.


Godfrey

On Apr 15, 2006, at 6:57 AM, Bertil Holmberg wrote:

Although I appreciate that Pentax need to offer the D2 this autumn,  
I do not personally see any use for the 10MP behemoth.


I rather like the small frame of the DS/DL, and would regret to see  
these languish in the face a more advanced product. It worries me  
that I have heard nothing further about the evolution of the  
semiprofessional Pentax line.


Will Pentax do a DS3, or just keep the budget DL and use their high  
end effort on the new D2? Or will they leave the middle/low line to  
Samsung?


Shake Reduction is such an obvious ingredient that a DS3 including  
this seems like a certainty, but when and from whome? What other  
useful things should Pentax have in their next models? Shaking dust  
from the sensor would be a great thing, if it can be made to work.


Regards,
Bertil

Re: Am i doing something wrong with DS

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

From: Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I recently bought a *ist DS and am using M and K series lenses on  
it. How ever it seems to be really under exposing most of the shots  
and the meter seems all over the place. Just wondering if some one  
can suggest something i may be doing wrong. I'm pretty sure i have  
the correct settings in the custom functions and i am using the  
button on the back to stop down the lens.

...
Shooting in Manual mode, meter is set to Centre Weighted.

"AE-L with AF locked" is set to 1, but i have tried setting it to  
2. Exposure does seem to jump around on the same scene.


The meter just seems to totally inaccurate, always underexposing.


AE-L with AF Locked is irrelevant when using a manual focus lens and  
you have the AF/MF switch set on MF.


Do a calibration test. Get a reference gray card on a sunny day (or a  
clear blue sky between 10am and 2pm on that sunny day...), set ISO  
200, set f/11, fill the frame with it, be sure the meter is enabled,  
hit the AE-Lock button, see whether you get a shutter speed in the  
1/200-1/250 second range. Take a picture. The histogram should show a  
nearly perfect vertical strip just to the left of the center of the  
graph.


If that all checks out, take a deep breath and slow down. It means  
your meter is working correctly.


The DS meter calibration is set to protect against highlight  
saturation for JPEG capture. I've found this often means it's about  
-0.3 to -0.7 EV under the best exposure I want for capturing RAW  
format. Have you looked at the photos you captured already on the  
computer screen or only on the camera's LCD? Are you capturing in RAW  
or JPEG format? Have you done any testing with a reference  
calibration target, like a gray wedge or color chart?


And, lastly, can you post any pictures so that we can see what you're  
getting and discuss causes in the captures that might be the issue?


Godfrey

Re: OT - Las Vegas, (was Eiffel Tower)

[Bob Shell]

On Apr 15, 2006, at 10:59 AM, Don Williams wrote:

Its still the mob "but they've gone legit" -- according to a taxi  
driver, the last time I was there.
Perhaps he watched too many Godfather movies? One thing I found to  
my liking was the food.
One Sea Food restaurant I liked in particular was round behind the  
Flamingo. I just can't remember
the name. I had a drinks coaster with the details ... but it's gone  
long ago. They made clam chowder
almost as good as you can find on Fisherman's Wharf -- but many  
times more expensive.



I've been going to Las Vegas for 30+ years, usually a couple of times  
a year.  I've watched the place change, and certainly not for the  
better.  When the mob ran it you could walk around anywhere in town  
and not fear street crime because the mob didn't tolerate it.  Bad  
for business, you know. Now the place is dangerous if you get far off  
the tourist track.  They have gangs.  Lots of crime.  Smog.  All the  
result of uncontrolled growth.  I wish we could go back to the Vegas  
of the old days.


I don't recognize the seafood place you're talking about. When was  
that?  My favorite restaurants there now are the Rosewood Grill and  
Smith & Wollensky.  I only like to go to Smith & Wollensky when  
someone else is picking up the tab, though!


There's also a great little family-owned Italian place over on W.  
Sahara that I go to, but I can't recollect the name at the moment.   
It's a couple of blocks off Las Vegas Blvd. on the left.


Bob

Re: A question about new Pentax camera and culture

[Boris Liberman]

Hi!


I have been following the thread at dpreview, a lot of speculations, some
facts, and some fighting. 
I have a question, that I'd like to ask you Boris. Based on what you read at
the Russian site: Can you say anything on what lenses that accept AS? 
I have some third part zooms that don't report focal length to the camera.

Will AS work with them?


Tim, honestly I don't really care about new camera... Not until I can 
see it on sale at adorama or b&h...


The most interesting piece of news that I've just read is that Pentax 
Japan has ordered to take the new camera off the show. It seems that new 
name K100D or whatever it is has actually leaked through (EXIF data of 
the camera on the exhibition stand) which wasn't intended.


There is not a word about which lenses work with AS and so I have to 
assume (my own opinion here) that it is more like K-M solution - sensor 
movement based AS.


Also it's been said that if one replaces the K100D label in binary 
editor inside PEF files with istDS then ACR reads the PEF files right away.


Finally, one of the guys mentions that the new flagship model (due in 
Autumn) is going to have USM. In fact, it is going to be very similar to 
Canon's USM because Canon used Pentax patents... Please don't beat me 
here - I am merely translating what's written there...


And one more point I'd like to make

> Well, Dpreview is very tight with the manufacturers. So if there's any
> info out there, they can't publish it due to embargo, or they just
> don't want to piss off their advertisers.  It's not really a rumor
> site.

> -Ryan Brooks

Ryan, that's exactly my point - the camera has been shown (working 
prototype, judging from Penta Club reports) on rather significant photo 
(gear) exhibition in Moscow... I realize Moscow is not exactly Tokyo or 
London, yet it is a significant event.


Hence is my sense of puzzlement - DPReview *should* have reported this 
because it is not rumors we're talking here.


I am as puzzled as ever ;-).

Boris

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RE: A question about new Pentax camera and culture

[Tim Øsleby]

I have been following the thread at dpreview, a lot of speculations, some
facts, and some fighting. 
I have a question, that I'd like to ask you Boris. Based on what you read at
the Russian site: Can you say anything on what lenses that accept AS? 
I have some third part zooms that don't report focal length to the camera.
Will AS work with them?


Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds 
(Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)

> -Original Message-
> From: Boris Liberman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 15. april 2006 17:53
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: A question about new Pentax camera and culture
> 
> Hi!
> 
> Folks, from Russian Penta Club forum we know that K100D (or whatever is
> the name) is new Pentax DSLR. It has IS and better AF which is
> significant step up for Pentax.
> 
> Why it is not mentioned anywhere else? Say, www.dpreview.com hasn't a
> word about it...
> 
> On PDML we have few folks who can read Russian (including me)... It
> simply puzzles heck out of me - why K100D is not mentioned anywhere else?
> 
> Enlighten me, will you?
> 
> Boris
> 

Re: OT - Eiffel Tower

[Shel Belinkoff]

Ahh - the taxi driver - always a great source for truth and accurate
reporting 

Fisherman's Wharf food is, for the most part,  tourist fare.  Years ago,
before the area was developed to accommodate the teeming throngs, there
were a few good restaurants in the area.  There are far better places in
The City to get good clam chowder.  Swan Oyster Depot and Patricia
Unterman's Hayes Street Grill come quickly to mind.

Shel



> [Original Message]
> From: Don Williams 

> Its still the mob "but they've gone legit" -- according to a taxi 
> driver, the last time I was there.
> Perhaps he watched too many Godfather movies? One thing I found to my 
> liking was the food.
> One Sea Food restaurant I liked in particular was round behind the 
> Flamingo. I just can't remember
> the name. I had a drinks coaster with the details ... but it's gone long 
> ago. They made clam chowder
> almost as good as you can find on Fisherman's Wharf -- but many times 
> more expensive.
>
> Don
>
> Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> > The "mob" influence has been long gone from Vegas.  Corporate interests
now
> > rule the place.  The mob had more taste!
> >
> > Shel
> >
> >
> >
> >   
> >> [Original Message]
> >> From: Don Williams 
> >> 
> >
> >   
> >> Oh but I have, several times, and love it. There's a world of
difference 
> >> between Mr Hearst's monstrosity and the mob's. The place is amazing. 
> >> 
> >
> >

Re: A question about new Pentax camera and culture

[Jim King]

Boris Liberman wrote on Sat, 15 Apr 2006 07:56:18


Hi!

Folks, from Russian Penta Club forum we know that K100D (or  
whatever is the name) is new Pentax DSLR. It has IS and better AF  
which is significant step up for Pentax.


Why it is not mentioned anywhere else? Say, www.dpreview.com hasn't  
a word about it...


On PDML we have few folks who can read Russian (including me)... It  
simply puzzles heck out of me - why K100D is not mentioned anywhere  
else?

Enlighten me, will you?

Boris


Boris, it was discussed at DPReview but you've somehow missed it -  
there was a thread several days ago which closed at 150 posts and a  
new one is still active:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=18037951

We'd be glad for any contribution from you!

Regards, Jim

Re: A question about new Pentax camera and culture

[Ryan K. Brooks]

Boris Liberman wrote:

Hi!

Folks, from Russian Penta Club forum we know that K100D (or whatever 
is the name) is new Pentax DSLR. It has IS and better AF which is 
significant step up for Pentax.


Why it is not mentioned anywhere else? Say, www.dpreview.com hasn't a 
word about it...


On PDML we have few folks who can read Russian (including me)... It 
simply puzzles heck out of me - why K100D is not mentioned anywhere else?


Well, Dpreview is very tight with the manufacturers. So if there's any 
info out there, they can't publish it due to embargo, or they just don't 
want to piss off their advertisers.  It's not really a rumor site.


-Ryan Brooks

Re: OT - Eiffel Tower

[Don Williams]

Its still the mob "but they've gone legit" -- according to a taxi 
driver, the last time I was there.
Perhaps he watched too many Godfather movies? One thing I found to my 
liking was the food.
One Sea Food restaurant I liked in particular was round behind the 
Flamingo. I just can't remember
the name. I had a drinks coaster with the details ... but it's gone long 
ago. They made clam chowder
almost as good as you can find on Fisherman's Wharf -- but many times 
more expensive.


Don

Shel Belinkoff wrote:

The "mob" influence has been long gone from Vegas.  Corporate interests now
rule the place.  The mob had more taste!

Shel



  

[Original Message]
From: Don Williams 



  
Oh but I have, several times, and love it. There's a world of difference 
between Mr Hearst's monstrosity and the mob's. The place is amazing. 




  

Paul Stenquist wrote:


Then you haven't been to Las Vegas :-)).
  





  



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Re: Soft boxes, any recommendations

[Bob Shell]

On Apr 14, 2006, at 4:01 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:


Not if you have one brand on the right and another on the left!!  I
ran into that when trying to use a Westcott and a Photoflex
together.  Pretty much impossible to fix in Photoshop.


Is it easier to deal with on film?



Surprisingly, yes.  Film I shot for years with that setup never  
showed any problem.  When I first started shooting digital I noticed it.


Bob

A question about new Pentax camera and culture

[Boris Liberman]

Hi!

Folks, from Russian Penta Club forum we know that K100D (or whatever is 
the name) is new Pentax DSLR. It has IS and better AF which is 
significant step up for Pentax.


Why it is not mentioned anywhere else? Say, www.dpreview.com hasn't a 
word about it...


On PDML we have few folks who can read Russian (including me)... It 
simply puzzles heck out of me - why K100D is not mentioned anywhere else?


Enlighten me, will you?

Boris

Re: Soft boxes, any recommendations

[Bob Shell]

On Apr 14, 2006, at 7:56 PM, William Robb wrote:

The larger the light source, the softer the light. Take a 36 inch  
reflector, be it a soft box or umbrella and put it 20 feet from the  
subject, it is effectively a point source, but if you put it a foot  
from the subject it should give a very soft light.


Right.  Just to make it clearer:  The larger the apparent size of the  
light source from the subject's position, the softer the light.


Oddly enough, the best diagrams I've seen on all this are in an old  
book called Nude Photography: The French Way published some 20 years  
ago by Amphoto.


Bob