RE: How do you store your precious moments for posterity?
Hi John the click of death is a real thing, I had it with one of my Zip 100 drives. More on the website www.grc.com greetings Markus I do have a SCSI interface card on my desktop, and started off saving images to ZIP drives, but 100MB disks fill up surprisingly quickly - and , of course, there are the rumours of ZIP disks dying on one, although I haven't had it happen to me (yet!). HTH John Coyle Brisbane, Australia
Re: Local Gas Prices
- Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Re: Local Gas Prices Gallons of gas sold is only a part of such a company's profit picture. Profits are generated from other areas as well, including investments and refining. Almost 1/4 of their profits came from refining. For example, when they bought or contracted for crude @ $40.00 per barrel, and the price jumped to $60.00 per barrel, they did quite well. However, Exxon/Mobile did not control the price of crude - they just benefited from it. According to a report I heard Wednesday or Thursday, the percentage of profit made by Exxon/Mobile was about 7%, similar to the profit percentages of many other businesses. While I'm not being an apologist for the oil companies, their return on investment and profits - from a percentage standpoint - doesn't seem excessive. Actually, there are many companies in many other fields that generate larger profits in terms of percentage. Someone was making a simplistic statement about how much money they made, I was asking a simplistic question about how much product they sold to make that money. I asked because if you break it down to dollars made vs. gallons sold you will find that they don't have much margin to lower the price per gallon, which was intimated by another poster. Your reply confirms what I was implying. William Robb
Re: batteries discharging quickly in *istD
- Original Message - From: Amita Guha Subject: batteries discharging quickly in *istD About a month ago, I tried to use my *istD, but the batteries were dead. The other two sets of Nimh's I keep for it were dead as well. I wasn't too concerned because I hadn't used the camera in a while. A couple of days ago, I charged up all three sets, and today I headed out to shoot. My first set lasted about 6 minutes/11 exposures, the 2nd set lasted about the same, and the 3rd were dead when I put them in the camera, even though they'd been fully charged. When we got home, we found out that at least two batteries were bad. The rest seemed to charge up normally pretty quickly in the one-hour charger. Now I am trying to figure out if the problem is with the camera or the batteries. We bought all the batteries at about the same time, a year and a half ago. Is the *istD known to develop problems reading batteries? Nate thinks we might need to change the little battery for the *istD's computer. I am hoping it is just a simple matter of the Nimhs going bad all at once. I gave up on MiMH batteries some time ago. They are great when new, but get really flakey after not very long. I had 3 sets (24 batteries), and had similar problems with them going screwey. I switched to lithioids a year or more back, and have never had a wonky battery issue since. William Robb
Re: OT: How do you store your precious moments for posterity?
- Original Message - From: Boris Liberman Subject: Re: OT: How do you store your precious moments for posterity? Will there be a program, a software piece able to read the PEFs or DNGs or JPGs or TIFFs in 25 years? We are having a similar problem with defunct film formats. We haven't supported 126 for many years, and dropped support for 110 a year or so ago. Nor do we have access to a lab that prints odd sized black and white negs. I suspect there is a better chance of being able to read a legacy jpeg in 40 years than there will be in printing an Ektachrome slide. William Robb
Re: batteries discharging quickly in *istD
If you get a La Crosse charger you'll be able to keep your NiMH cells healthy. You'll know if they're good and also be able to 'rejuvenate' any that might not be performing optimally; a bad one will show up at once. Although needing much care and attention they're economical and I've been using them for some time. But always keep a pair of Lithiums in your bag in case of trouble. By the way I don't like the idea of re-chargeable lithium cells, they may catch fire and explode and are potentially very dangerous. Unless you fly electric model aircraft you don't need them. I think a good way to shorten the life of NiMH cells is to fast charge them. I charge mine at 200 ma. Don William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Amita Guha Subject: batteries discharging quickly in *istD About a month ago, I tried to use my *istD, but the batteries were dead. The other two sets of Nimh's I keep for it were dead as well. I wasn't too concerned because I hadn't used the camera in a while. A couple of days ago, I charged up all three sets, and today I headed out to shoot. My first set lasted about 6 minutes/11 exposures, the 2nd set lasted about the same, and the 3rd were dead when I put them in the camera, even though they'd been fully charged. When we got home, we found out that at least two batteries were bad. The rest seemed to charge up normally pretty quickly in the one-hour charger. Now I am trying to figure out if the problem is with the camera or the batteries. We bought all the batteries at about the same time, a year and a half ago. Is the *istD known to develop problems reading batteries? Nate thinks we might need to change the little battery for the *istD's computer. I am hoping it is just a simple matter of the Nimhs going bad all at once. I gave up on MiMH batteries some time ago. They are great when new, but get really flakey after not very long. I had 3 sets (24 batteries), and had similar problems with them going screwey. I switched to lithioids a year or more back, and have never had a wonky battery issue since. William Robb -- Dr E D F Williams www.kolumbus.fi/mimosa/ personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams/ 41660 TOIVAKKA – Finland - +358400706616
GESO - Starting a photo blog
Hi! I happen to have an LJ account. So I thought I'd use my web space for holding my pics and my LJ for having a photo-blog... Here is the first entry... http://boris71.livejournal.com/4514.html#cutid1 I want to know if the way it is presented is convenient for you. No pop ups, no resized browser windows, etc... Please notice, the entry has two JPGs each of about 130 Kb big. Also, if you decide to look around my LJ, please be informed that it is part Russian part English. Thanks. -- Boris
Re: Local Gas Prices
On 29/4/06, graywolf, discombobulated, unleashed: For instance Canada is nowhere near as big as it looks on most maps. I understand they say the same thing about Bill... Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: OT: the cost of digital storage
On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 08:38:48PM +1200, David Mann wrote: On Apr 28, 2006, at 11:27 PM, Jostein wrote: Many solutions have been suggested, but none have been priced. It would be very interesting to hear how much people have invested in hardware for their backup solution. I'm buying TDK blanks in 10-packs including slim cases for NZ$20. I'd have preferred Verbatim Datalife but I could only find them in singles with full-size cases (at NZ$2.50 per disc). I'm not writing a heck of a lot though... I recently wrote my 12th pair, but I suspect that it won't be too long before I start running into a storage crisis :) I must be crazy then, I don't burn more than 2-3 DVD's a year : -- [EMAIL PROTECTED], IRC:[EMAIL PROTECTED], /bin/zsh. C|NK Linux moria 2.6.16 #2 Thu Mar 30 19:55:41 CEST 2006 i686 09:32:17 up 29 days, 22:09, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
Re: batteries discharging quickly in *istD
I have the same NIMH batteries for abouy a year and a half (as long as my D) and never had any problem. Sometimes I let them in the camera for a month before using them. They still run fine. -- Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SFXn,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ...
Re: iPod camera adapter and OptioMX
Well the Epson is really a lot too much for my budget but a PD70X maybe... I will check ever options. Thanks all for your help. -- Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SFXn,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ...
Re: CS and RAW files from DL2
At the moment I'm still in kid with new toy mode, but do find that I'm taking lots more (bad) shots than usual. I subscribe to the film is cheap school and thought I took lots of film shots, but have tried all sorts of things this week, most of which have resulted in files to bin. I went out yesterday with the DL2 and an LX, and found myself using the DL2 to test a shot out and then taking a couple with my proper camera (freudian slip!!). As a camera, it is neat and handy to use, although I don't like the viewfinder. I find being able to carry around the equivalent of 28 - 300mm in such a small package good, but mentally still see it as a glorified PS, rather than a serious camera. Being a slide person, I like the immediacy of results, but am not looking forward to spending hours post processing and managing image files. I find working with M and K lenses fairly instinctive even after a few tens of shots with them. One thing that does annoy me and will no doubt cost me is that the built in flash is as bad as you would expect and I'll need to but an AF360Z to get any flash automation. Finally, I can't get used to the strange sound it makes when I take a shot. I think Pentax should implant cameras with a film wind on sound simulator to make dinosaurs like me feel comfortable. Perhaps you could have a menu to dial up the sound of a particular camera. - Original Message - From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 6:57 PM Subject: Re: CS and RAW files from DL2 What do you think of the 2? m - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: CS and RAW files from DL2
I am using CS2. One thing that going digital is teaching me is that you need to learn a whole new vocabulary! At the moment I'm using the Pentax software to convert to jpeg, then playing about with the files in CS2. I am learning the need for a disciplined approach to file storage and so forth, (workflow?). Will try the download Godfrey suggested later today. Thanks Peter - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 10:04 PM Subject: Re: CS and RAW files from DL2 Hi Godders, Peter's using CS, not CS2, so he's limited to ACR 2.4. Shel [Original Message] From: Godfrey DiGiorgi I think the DL2 PEF files are the same format as DS, DL, DS2 PEF files. Camera Raw v3.3 rejects them because the camera descriptor is not in its internal list. I searched the Camera Raw binary with a hex file editor and found Pentax *ist DS2 (as well as the 'D', 'DS' and 'DL' models) listed in two places. In a DS PEF file, I found the same string... I think that if I edited a of Camera Raw v3.3 and changed the 'S' to an 'L' on that string, it would have no problem. Peter Jordan wrote: I've searched the archive and not found any post on this topic, so excuse me if this question has already been asked. Is there a way of getting CS to read istDL2 RAW files? I've downloaded the latest plug in from Adobe that mentions DS2 and DL, but that still gives me a file format error. Am I doing something stupid or do I have to persevere with the Pentax RAW converter until Adobe get round to writing one?
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dpMagic miniLab: http://www.dpmagic.com/features.html Seems interesting ;) -- -- Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SFXn,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ...
Re: Local Gas Prices
On Apr 30, 2006, at 1:29 AM, Bob W wrote: Unless somebody thinks of ideas that, to the majority, sound outrageous and ridiculous, nothing will ever change. From the end of one of the very few TV ads that I actually like... [...] the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do. - Dave
Re: Local Gas Prices
On Sun, 30 Apr 2006 02:23:23 +0100, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Um, the oil companies can easily sell gas for far less than they're currently getting. Exxon profits are in the billion plus per quarter range. They will make the sacrifice when called upon. You omitted the smiley, Peter. John Of course Bush's cronies may lower gas prices 6 months before the election, and my opinion of the public's intelligence says they will forget by election time. That would require the aquisition of oil at less than the world PPB. Not sure how he would do that... William Robb -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
Re: batteries discharging quickly in *istD
From: Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/04/30 Sun AM 04:13:19 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: batteries discharging quickly in *istD About a month ago, I tried to use my *istD, but the batteries were dead. Welcome to the world of modern battery technology. Yes, you can get massive energy supplies in small packages - the downside is shortened shelf life compared to older technology. Others are worse. Lithium-ion batteries have a shelf life of two years. I need a new Li-ion battery for my laptop but have yet to find a supplier that will tell me the manufacture date of their brand new!!! units. mike - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: Local Gas Prices
On Sun, 30 Apr 2006 01:44:08 +0100, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, spend trillions of dollars on infrastructure to save billions on gasoline. Europeans spent that kind money on mass trans portation because between 1945 and 1960 most of them were too poor to afford a private motor car. Notice that 88.5% of freight moved by highway figure in the UK in my other post. Actually, most of the railways were built before 1900. John And then you still won't be able to get where you need to be when you need to be there. Before that happens there will be a new government here. I will be willing to bet that he Republicans are going to lose their majority in 2008 solely due to gas prices. Of course Bush's cronies may lower gas prices 6 months before the election, and my opinion of the public's intelligence says they will forget by election time. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Mishka wrote: that definitely explains why every other car on the hiways is an suv. i bet once gas prices get north of $5, the public transportation will get to european level quite quickly. best, mishka On 4/29/06, Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find that Europeans and people from the UK who have not been here generally just don't understand this about the USA. Things are far apart here, and for the most part we don't have transportation alternatives. Most of us don't have access to passenger train service. Bus service is very limited, and very slow. It's driving in our cars or not getting there. -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
Re: batteries discharging quickly in *istD
Well a bad battery will make the whole pack work substandardly. And if your charger does not charge them individually it will cause you to have a mischarged pack that will not last long. Rechargables really need to be used regularly. For my use I gave up on them and went to AA Lithiums. They can sit around for years and still be good, and even used heavily (for me these days) they last me several months. None of that is istD specific as I do not have one. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Amita Guha wrote: About a month ago, I tried to use my *istD, but the batteries were dead. The other two sets of Nimh's I keep for it were dead as well. I wasn't too concerned because I hadn't used the camera in a while. A couple of days ago, I charged up all three sets, and today I headed out to shoot. My first set lasted about 6 minutes/11 exposures, the 2nd set lasted about the same, and the 3rd were dead when I put them in the camera, even though they'd been fully charged. When we got home, we found out that at least two batteries were bad. The rest seemed to charge up normally pretty quickly in the one-hour charger. Now I am trying to figure out if the problem is with the camera or the batteries. We bought all the batteries at about the same time, a year and a half ago. Is the *istD known to develop problems reading batteries? Nate thinks we might need to change the little battery for the *istD's computer. I am hoping it is just a simple matter of the Nimhs going bad all at once. Any thoughts on this would be appreciated! Thanks, Amita
Re: Re: CS and RAW files from DL2
From: Peter Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/04/30 Sun AM 08:04:13 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: CS and RAW files from DL2 At the moment I'm still in kid with new toy mode, but do find that I'm taking lots more (bad) shots than usual. I subscribe to the film is cheap school and thought I took lots of film shots, but have tried all sorts of things this week, most of which have resulted in files to bin. I went out yesterday with the DL2 and an LX, and found myself using the DL2 to test a shot out and then taking a couple with my proper camera (freudian slip!!). I'd be worried to do that in case the LX damaged the 2. It doesn't feel like a camera that will take hard use. As a camera, it is neat and handy to use, although I don't like the viewfinder. I find being able to carry around the equivalent of 28 - 300mm in such a small package good, but mentally still see it as a glorified PS, rather than a serious camera. I don't think my similar opinion is going to change. It's a Hell of a lot of camera for the money but my LX will undoubtedly outlive it. I have a personal problem with non-mechanical cameras, being quite short sighted. That means, if I have to trog through menus and lists, I have to peer over or take off specs. It's a royal pita. With a mechanical camera having maybe two operations per control it's much easier to learn to use. As I _already_ know how to take pictures, having to spend a considerable length of time to learn how to use the box is a definite disadvantage for the 2. Being a slide person, I like the immediacy of results, but am not looking forward to spending hours post processing and managing image files. Snap... I find working with M and K lenses fairly instinctive even after a few tens of shots with them. It's OK but not yet instinctive but I found that the camera sometimes doesn't respond properly. Probably an issue with my example. One thing that does annoy me and will no doubt cost me is that the built in flash is as bad as you would expect and I'll need to but an AF360Z to get any flash automation. AF280T, 200T and 400T all work well with it. Finally, I can't get used to the strange sound it makes when I take a shot. I think Pentax should implant cameras with a film wind on sound simulator to make dinosaurs like me feel comfortable. Perhaps you could have a menu to dial up the sound of a particular camera. Makes more sense than the world time function... How fast is your write speed? Mine will take two shots, then takes about seven seconds to begin firing at about five second intervals. I don't know why it even has a continuous shooting option. All on different cards. - Original Message - From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 6:57 PM Subject: Re: CS and RAW files from DL2 What do you think of the 2? m - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: batteries discharging quickly in *istD
I keep hearing that one. How come the li-Ion in my laptop is 3 + years old and still has 3/4 capacity (3+ hours run time)? From what I have read on the net a lot of people abuse these batteries badly, then they bad mouth the battery. A quote, After my battery shuts off, I can still get another 30 minutes out of it if I... Li-Ion batteries do not like to deep cycle, and they do not like to be overcharged. Shelf life if not overheated is quite good --for a rechargeable. They will eventually go below the safe charge level so they need to be charged every six months or so even if not used. An unactivated (never charged) one has a shelf life of several years, however because people do not like to have to slow charge the battery the first time they use it many manufactures now activate it at the factory. Overall Li-Ion are simply the best rechargeables currently available. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- mike wilson wrote: From: Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/04/30 Sun AM 04:13:19 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: batteries discharging quickly in *istD About a month ago, I tried to use my *istD, but the batteries were dead. Welcome to the world of modern battery technology. Yes, you can get massive energy supplies in small packages - the downside is shortened shelf life compared to older technology. Others are worse. Lithium-ion batteries have a shelf life of two years. I need a new Li-ion battery for my laptop but have yet to find a supplier that will tell me the manufacture date of their brand new!!! units. mike - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: K10D Bundle? (2nd try)
On Sun, 30 Apr 2006 03:50:42 +0100, Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 29, 2006, at 7:38 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I doubt that Pentax will release a RAW converter that can rival PSCS2 or some of the other software available. They could, if they wanted to tack on the cost of licensing a good RAW converter to the cost of the camera. I certainly don't want that -- I can spend that money separately on my own and get exactly what I desire. Of course they COULD. Paul said he doubted that they WILL, and the cost of doing so is obviously the reason that they won't, as you say. John -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
Re: OT: How do you store your precious moments for posterity?
On Sun, 30 Apr 2006 06:00:37 +0100, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! I discovered the need more storage thread just now, by looking in the archives. Long term storage is a hot topic among my friends over here at the moment, but nobody seems to have any best practice to point to. Nobody includes me too :-) but I would very much like to establish a good practice for myself. So by googling, and some thinking, I've come down to a list of things to consider. I'm not sure if this is a good list to go by, and would very much like to hear some opinions: 1. Longevity of storage medium (Hard-drive, DVD, etc.) 2. Longevity of the technology used to access the medium (USB, SCSI, etc.) 3. Longevity of software support for the chosen file format (RAW, TIFF, etc.) Then there is: 4. Data safeguarding (backup routines etc.) 5. Data availability (access time to a file) 6. Production volume (number of exposures and edit-files) 7. Convenience 8. Cost (both time and money) By any measure, a solution to cover all this points will be a trade-off between several of them. Convenience and longevity pull in the same direction, for example, while cost pulls the other way. So what do you think? And how do you store your precious moments? Jostein, here is my very simple solution which is probably not that good too. 1. I have two hard drives on my PC... I have a free-ware piece that copies/deletes everything that was changed-added/deleted on one drive to the other drive. So I have about 120 GB of logically mirrored storage. My computer is protected by UPS in case of power surge. Few times already it managed to survive. 2. Since I am approaching the moment where my capacity will be exceeded I've started the process of organizing my PEFs and index JPGs and transferring them to DVDs. I routinely use CDs and DVDs only by Verbatim. Verbatim CDs seem to hold for 3-4 years easily. I can say nothing about Verbatim DVDs because enough time hasn't passed yet. 3. My first backup solution was two CD copies of everything. Now I can consolidate in roughly 6:1 proportion so that my CD wallets will be useful for some time longer. And just in case I have two more backup copies of some of my files. The main question I keep asking myself is this however. Suppose now that I manage to keep my files (both from scanned film and digital) for, say, 25 years. So, suppose today I am 60 (I am gonna be 35 soon) and I want to review some of my Norwegian travel memories ;-)... Will there be a program, a software piece able to read the PEFs or DNGs or JPGs or TIFFs in 25 years? Boris, you are not going to go to sleep like Rip Van Winkle, and wake up in 30 years to find that JPEGS are history. You'll see a new format introduced (if it is), and make new copies of your CDs in the new format. It is inconceivable that a new format would be introduced without a way to convert existing formats to it. When PNG came out, all regular imaging software embraced it. John Boris -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
Re: K10D Bundle? (2nd try)
On Sun, 30 Apr 2006 02:38:46 +0100, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Forbes wrote: On Sat, 29 Apr 2006 23:52:37 +0100, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What software will be bundled with the K10D? Hot new RAW converter? Wish I were better equipped to know what to hope for. It's highly unlikely that any camera manufacturer is going to produce a better RAW convertor than those made by the likes of Adobe and Phase One, inter alia. So better to hope for something else. :-) Like an A-S (IS) system that works with old lenses, and full K/M usability. John Nikon has. Capture 4 produces better output than ACR or Capture One Pro do from the sam RAW file. But it's got UI and backend issues (Slow, Slow, Slow, and poor batch support). Canon's RAW software is as good as ACR. -Adam As I have no interest in these makes, I am not up to speed. But I am surprised you say that Nikon's and Canon's RAW convertors are better than P1 and ACR. Is this a general opinion, or your own? And if the latter, do you know all four programs well? Incidentally, I did say a better RAW convertor, by which I meant the whole program. Being Slow, Slow, Slow, rather cuts Nikon out of the picture. John -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
Re: batteries discharging quickly in *istD
On Sun, 30 Apr 2006 08:57:48 +0100, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have the same NIMH batteries for abouy a year and a half (as long as my D) and never had any problem. Sometimes I let them in the camera for a month before using them. They still run fine. -- Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SFXn,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ... The fourth post down has some interesting things to say: http://www.pentaxuser.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2320highlight=battery+grip It would seem that it is best to avoid NiMHs if you use the battery grip, unless you have checked that ALL eight batteries are equally charged and of identical capacity. John -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
Re: Local Gas Prices
Yep Canada is only about 10 million square kilometers just 10% bigger than the US. And you are wrong, Cotty. Bill is at least as big as you. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Cotty wrote: On 29/4/06, graywolf, discombobulated, unleashed: For instance Canada is nowhere near as big as it looks on most maps. I understand they say the same thing about Bill... Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: OT: How do you store your precious moments for posterity?
CD's are already being replaced by flash memory. DVD's are being replaced by DL DVD's, and eventually will probably be replace by flash memory too. What will replace flash memory, who knows? You can bet that no media will ever have a useful life expectancy of more than 10 years before it is superseded. Just plan on it. Actually prints in albums are the only thing I know of that have out lasted that 10 year figure, but the albums sure have changed over the years. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- John Forbes wrote: On Sun, 30 Apr 2006 06:00:37 +0100, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! I discovered the need more storage thread just now, by looking in the archives. Long term storage is a hot topic among my friends over here at the moment, but nobody seems to have any best practice to point to. Nobody includes me too :-) but I would very much like to establish a good practice for myself. So by googling, and some thinking, I've come down to a list of things to consider. I'm not sure if this is a good list to go by, and would very much like to hear some opinions: 1. Longevity of storage medium (Hard-drive, DVD, etc.) 2. Longevity of the technology used to access the medium (USB, SCSI, etc.) 3. Longevity of software support for the chosen file format (RAW, TIFF, etc.) Then there is: 4. Data safeguarding (backup routines etc.) 5. Data availability (access time to a file) 6. Production volume (number of exposures and edit-files) 7. Convenience 8. Cost (both time and money) By any measure, a solution to cover all this points will be a trade-off between several of them. Convenience and longevity pull in the same direction, for example, while cost pulls the other way. So what do you think? And how do you store your precious moments? Jostein, here is my very simple solution which is probably not that good too. 1. I have two hard drives on my PC... I have a free-ware piece that copies/deletes everything that was changed-added/deleted on one drive to the other drive. So I have about 120 GB of logically mirrored storage. My computer is protected by UPS in case of power surge. Few times already it managed to survive. 2. Since I am approaching the moment where my capacity will be exceeded I've started the process of organizing my PEFs and index JPGs and transferring them to DVDs. I routinely use CDs and DVDs only by Verbatim. Verbatim CDs seem to hold for 3-4 years easily. I can say nothing about Verbatim DVDs because enough time hasn't passed yet. 3. My first backup solution was two CD copies of everything. Now I can consolidate in roughly 6:1 proportion so that my CD wallets will be useful for some time longer. And just in case I have two more backup copies of some of my files. The main question I keep asking myself is this however. Suppose now that I manage to keep my files (both from scanned film and digital) for, say, 25 years. So, suppose today I am 60 (I am gonna be 35 soon) and I want to review some of my Norwegian travel memories ;-)... Will there be a program, a software piece able to read the PEFs or DNGs or JPGs or TIFFs in 25 years? Boris, you are not going to go to sleep like Rip Van Winkle, and wake up in 30 years to find that JPEGS are history. You'll see a new format introduced (if it is), and make new copies of your CDs in the new format. It is inconceivable that a new format would be introduced without a way to convert existing formats to it. When PNG came out, all regular imaging software embraced it. John Boris --Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ --No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.1/327 - Release Date: 4/28/2006
PESO: Spring Trio
A little exercise in DOF and simple composition. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4397477
Re: Local Gas Prices
On Apr 30, 2006, at 7:05 AM, graywolf wrote: Yep Canada is only about 10 million square kilometers just 10% bigger than the US. And you are wrong, Cotty. Bill is at least as big as you. USA is 9,631,418 square kilometers. Canada is 9, 976,410 square kilometers. That makes Canada 344,992 square kilometers larger. It's early for me to do math, but I think that makes Canada only about 3.5% bigger. I wonder if land area is customarily figured at low tide? Bob
Re: batteries discharging quickly in *istD
I use batteries in the D grip all of the time. LIthium AAs in the grip and camera. I get approximately 2000 exposures. Always. Tried NIMh for a while. Gave up on them. I think they require considerable discipline in regard to charging and care. I don't have time for that. Paul On Apr 30, 2006, at 12:31 AM, David Nelson wrote: Were you using the batteries in the battery grip by any chance? I've now given up using batteries in the grip as I suspect there's a contact problem somewhere along the line that leads to erratic battery performance. Alternatively, do you trust your charger? I've had trouble there in the past as well. Ideally a charger should charge each cell independently and offer a discharge option. Cheers, David Amita Guha wrote: About a month ago, I tried to use my *istD, but the batteries were dead. The other two sets of Nimh's I keep for it were dead as well. I wasn't too concerned because I hadn't used the camera in a while. A couple of days ago, I charged up all three sets, and today I headed out to shoot. My first set lasted about 6 minutes/11 exposures, the 2nd set lasted about the same, and the 3rd were dead when I put them in the camera, even though they'd been fully charged. When we got home, we found out that at least two batteries were bad. The rest seemed to charge up normally pretty quickly in the one-hour charger. Now I am trying to figure out if the problem is with the camera or the batteries. We bought all the batteries at about the same time, a year and a half ago. Is the *istD known to develop problems reading batteries? Nate thinks we might need to change the little battery for the *istD's computer. I am hoping it is just a simple matter of the Nimhs going bad all at once. Any thoughts on this would be appreciated! Thanks, Amita
Re: batteries discharging quickly in *istD
Bill's wasn't talking about rechargeable lithiums, nor was I. The throwaways give you a couple thousand exposures with the grip. They're worth the money. Paul On Apr 30, 2006, at 3:16 AM, Don Williams wrote: If you get a La Crosse charger you'll be able to keep your NiMH cells healthy. You'll know if they're good and also be able to 'rejuvenate' any that might not be performing optimally; a bad one will show up at once. Although needing much care and attention they're economical and I've been using them for some time. But always keep a pair of Lithiums in your bag in case of trouble. By the way I don't like the idea of re-chargeable lithium cells, they may catch fire and explode and are potentially very dangerous. Unless you fly electric model aircraft you don't need them. I think a good way to shorten the life of NiMH cells is to fast charge them. I charge mine at 200 ma. Don William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Amita Guha Subject: batteries discharging quickly in *istD About a month ago, I tried to use my *istD, but the batteries were dead. The other two sets of Nimh's I keep for it were dead as well. I wasn't too concerned because I hadn't used the camera in a while. A couple of days ago, I charged up all three sets, and today I headed out to shoot. My first set lasted about 6 minutes/11 exposures, the 2nd set lasted about the same, and the 3rd were dead when I put them in the camera, even though they'd been fully charged. When we got home, we found out that at least two batteries were bad. The rest seemed to charge up normally pretty quickly in the one-hour charger. Now I am trying to figure out if the problem is with the camera or the batteries. We bought all the batteries at about the same time, a year and a half ago. Is the *istD known to develop problems reading batteries? Nate thinks we might need to change the little battery for the *istD's computer. I am hoping it is just a simple matter of the Nimhs going bad all at once. I gave up on MiMH batteries some time ago. They are great when new, but get really flakey after not very long. I had 3 sets (24 batteries), and had similar problems with them going screwey. I switched to lithioids a year or more back, and have never had a wonky battery issue since. William Robb -- Dr E D F Williams www.kolumbus.fi/mimosa/ personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams/ 41660 TOIVAKKA – Finland - +358400706616
Re: Re: CS and RAW files from DL2
Interspersed Shel [Original Message] From: mike wilson I don't think my similar opinion is going to change. It's a Hell of a lot of camera for the money but my LX will undoubtedly outlive it. I have a personal problem with non-mechanical cameras, being quite short sighted. That means, if I have to trog through menus and lists, I have to peer over or take off specs. It's a royal pita. With a mechanical camera having maybe two operations per control it's much easier to learn to use. As I _already_ know how to take pictures, having to spend a considerable length of time to learn how to use the box is a definite disadvantage for the 2. Mike, I think you'll find, as I did rather quickly, that, once you've set the menus, there's really not much to adjust further. In actual use, the only menu items I adjust or change can be found right up front, in the function menu. Essentially, the only thing I change on the camera is the ISO rating, and at times the white balance, but I'm getting to the point of leaving it on automatic. All the other aspects, features, and functions were set from the beginning, and don't require changing or adjustment except very, very rarely. Actually, I can't think of anything I've changed since i got this body except to change the Continuous AF feature to Single mode, because I'd mistakenly set it from the beginning. Essentially, I now use the DS like I would a manual camera, like the Leica or the MX, using the wheel to change aperture or shutter speed, or the control on top to adjust exposure compensation. I've never shot anything but RAW except while fooling around with JPEG's in order to set the JPEG settings. Now, should there be a reason to change from RAW to JPEG, the settings are set, and it will be quick and easy to switch to JPEG. Why do you have to keep going into the menus? What are you changing, and why? It's OK but not yet instinctive but I found that the camera sometimes doesn't respond properly. Probably an issue with my example. In what way doesn't it respond properly? How fast is your write speed? Mine will take two shots, then takes about seven seconds to begin firing at about five second intervals. How fast is your SD card? I can get five continuous shots from the DS, and then one about every second or so thereafter. I'm using an 80X card, and it's noticeably faster than the slower card I used before. I believe the DL has at least the same buffer and write speed as the DS, and maybe even the ability to take advantage of faster cards.
RE: PESO: Spring Trio
Beautiful Paul, which lens? Don -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 6:21 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: PESO: Spring Trio A little exercise in DOF and simple composition. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4397477
RE: batteries discharging quickly in *istD
Agreed, Lithiums eliminated all my Battery Wierdness issues. At well under 1 cent per exposure they're the only way to go for me. Don -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 6:23 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: batteries discharging quickly in *istD I use batteries in the D grip all of the time. LIthium AAs in the grip and camera. I get approximately 2000 exposures. Always. Tried NIMh for a while. Gave up on them. I think they require considerable discipline in regard to charging and care. I don't have time for that. Paul
Re: PESO: Spring Trio
Thanks Don. It's the DA 50-200 4/5.6 at 125mm. Exposure was. f6.7 @ 1/500th, ISO 400 On Apr 30, 2006, at 7:30 AM, Don Sanderson wrote: Beautiful Paul, which lens? Don -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 6:21 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: PESO: Spring Trio A little exercise in DOF and simple composition. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4397477
Re: PESO: Spring Trio
Nice one Paul. I really like the colours. Dave S. On 4/30/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A little exercise in DOF and simple composition. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4397477
Re: Re: CS and RAW files from DL2
Interspersed Shel [Original Message] From: mike wilson I don't think my similar opinion is going to change. It's a Hell of a lot of camera for the money but my LX will undoubtedly outlive it. I have a personal problem with non-mechanical cameras, being quite short sighted. That means, if I have to trog through menus and lists, I have to peer over or take off specs. It's a royal pita. With a mechanical camera having maybe two operations per control it's much easier to learn to use. As I _already_ know how to take pictures, having to spend a considerable length of time to learn how to use the box is a definite disadvantage for the 2. Mike, perhaps you'll find, as I did rather quickly, that, once you've set the menus, there's really not much to adjust further. In actual use, the only menu items I adjust or change can be found right up front, in the function menu. Essentially, the only thing I change on the camera is the ISO rating, and at times the white balance, but I'm getting to the point of leaving it on automatic. All the other aspects, features, and functions were set from the beginning, and don't require changing or adjustment except very, very rarely. Actually, I can't think of anything I've changed since i got this body except to change the Continuous AF feature to Single mode, because I'd mistakenly set it from the beginning. Essentially, I now use the DS like I would a manual camera, like the Leica or the MX, using the wheel to change aperture or shutter speed, or the control on top to adjust exposure compensation. I've never shot anything but RAW except while fooling around with JPEG's in order to set the JPEG settings. Now, should there be a reason to change from RAW to JPEG, the settings are set, and it will be quick and easy to switch to JPEG. Why do you have to keep going into the menus? What are you changing, and why? It's OK but not yet instinctive but I found that the camera sometimes doesn't respond properly. Probably an issue with my example. In what way doesn't it respond properly? How fast is your write speed? Mine will take two shots, then takes about seven seconds to begin firing at about five second intervals. How fast is your SD card? I can get five continuous shots from the DS, and then one about every second or so thereafter. I'm using an 80X card, and it's noticeably faster than the slower card I used before. I believe the DL has at least the same buffer and write speed as the DS, and maybe even the ability to take advantage of faster cards.
Re: Small, Portable Ink Jet Printer - Image Storage
For the non-laptop, has she thought about something like the Palm LifeDrive? Not a ton of storage space, true (4 GB), but it'll do a lot of other things that are useful on a road trip. It has a well-sized screen (over four inches), will do e-mail and internet connected either via a modern cell phone or wireless, and can do many things that you'd want a laptop to do, but it fits comfortably in a pocket. I don't think there's any software for it currently that displays RAW files, and I think that the only card slot in it is for SD. I don't own one -- I own the Palm TX, which is similar but without the 4GB internal storage (it only has about 100mb of user-accessible memory plus whatever you stick in the SD slot), and I've been surprised by how capable it is. So capable, in fact, that my iBook that needs a minor repair may never be repaired. I did get a wireless keyboard for it to speed up my writing. Once I found out that they had upgraded the press box at Rogers Centre to have wireless instead of banks of phone jacks for dial-up modems, I immediately tried pulling out the SD card from the camera and sticking it into the Palm and then sending the files via e-mail as an attachment -- it worked beautifully. It would probably drive me up the wall trying to send all 800, but for filing a couple of key shots in a hurry, it rocks and rolls. Now I'm trying to find a web uploader that works consistently with the internet browser built into the Palm. Oh, there's another idea -- get a free gmail account from Google, get a Palm with wireless and e-mail your images to yourself for storage whenever you hit a coffee shop or restaurant or wherever you find wireless access. It was greatly useful on our trip to Washington, where we'd stop for coffee at places where we knew there was free wireless and check all of our e-mail and news from home. -Aaron On Apr 29, 2006, at 11:02 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: A question was posed to me by a friend. She is looking for a small, portable, ink jet printer that can produce prints up to about 5x7 in size, no need to go larger, although she'll consider 8x10 if she has to, that can work on either batteries or electricity, or perhaps from on inverter in her van. She's going to be traveling around the US and would like to make small prints for the people she photographs. Limiting the results to color is fine. Also - and I know this has come up before, but options may have changed - what might be a good image storage option - perhaps something with a nice-sized screen that can accept SD and CF cards. She's thought about a lap top, but would ideally like something smaller and more portable. I've no idea what to suggest to her. Shel
Re: batteries discharging quickly in *istD
NiHM's need to be regularly charged to work at peak efficiency. It takes a few charges/discharge cycles for them to regain capacity if they've been lying around unused too long. Amita Guha wrote: About a month ago, I tried to use my *istD, but the batteries were dead. The other two sets of Nimh's I keep for it were dead as well. I wasn't too concerned because I hadn't used the camera in a while. A couple of days ago, I charged up all three sets, and today I headed out to shoot. My first set lasted about 6 minutes/11 exposures, the 2nd set lasted about the same, and the 3rd were dead when I put them in the camera, even though they'd been fully charged. When we got home, we found out that at least two batteries were bad. The rest seemed to charge up normally pretty quickly in the one-hour charger. Now I am trying to figure out if the problem is with the camera or the batteries. We bought all the batteries at about the same time, a year and a half ago. Is the *istD known to develop problems reading batteries? Nate thinks we might need to change the little battery for the *istD's computer. I am hoping it is just a simple matter of the Nimhs going bad all at once. Any thoughts on this would be appreciated! Thanks, Amita -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: K10D Bundle? (2nd try)
Exactly what I wanted. Thanks, Adam. Jack --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Identical. Both use ACR 3.x, Elements just doesn't offer the advanced options. Lightroom is the only current Adobe app that doesn't use ACR 3.x, but expect its conversion routines to form the core for ACR 4.x, they're improved from ACR 3.x. -Adam Jack Davis wrote: How would you rate E4's RAW converter as compared to that of CS2? I was actually wondering if Pentax might chose to attempt a RAW rescue of what is obviously a generally held crap factor rating. Jack --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jack Davis wrote: What software will be bundled with the K10D? Hot new RAW converter? Wish I were better equipped to know what to hope for. Jack __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Elements 4 hopefully. None of the crap pentax is accusing of being a RAW converter. -Adam __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: K10D Bundle? (2nd try)
I want to believe it, especially since it is to include 35mm. Jack --- graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since they replaced their entire lens line with the M series (that was what? 30 lenses?)in 1977, I find that statement hard to believe. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Paul Stenquist wrote: Based on press releases, Pentax will be introducing more lenses in the next year than they have ever brought to market in that short a time. Paul On Apr 29, 2006, at 8:45 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Faint hope for sure, but more 35mm lens introductions would satisfy a fantasy. Jack --- John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 29 Apr 2006 23:52:37 +0100, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What software will be bundled with the K10D? Hot new RAW converter? Wish I were better equipped to know what to hope for. It's highly unlikely that any camera manufacturer is going to produce a better RAW convertor than those made by the likes of Adobe and Phase One, inter alia. So better to hope for something else. :-) Like an A-S (IS) system that works with old lenses, and full K/M usability. John Jack __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: Local Gas Prices
For instance Canada is nowhere near as big as it looks on most maps. must be really tiny then, because on my map it's only about 6 inches coast-to-coast... -- Cheers, Bob
Re: PESO: Spring Trio
A little exercise in DOF and simple composition. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4397477 Lovely shot Dave
Re: PESO - Today's Snap (TV House in Berkeley)
Alternate titleWhat else is on, Hon. Nice shot, good comp and it looks sharp enough on thi ibook. Dave There's a little known house in South Berkeley that is decorated with TV sets. Today I grabbed a few shots with the DS and a K24/2.8. I'm not happy with that lens on the DS - doesn't seem particularly sharp, some actual focusing tests are in order. However, it seemed fun to put up this shot for your pleasure. http://home.earthlink.net/~morepix/tvh1437.html Tech: istDS, K24/2.8 @ F8.0, ISO 200 Shel
PESO: A year later
http://www.photosight.ru/photo.php?photoid=1405285 Taken well after sunset, I had to crank up the contrast quite a bit. A little noisier than usual. Guess I'll have to look for a Pentax 300 mm lens to gain some more contrast ahead of the sensor. Then again, most of it has been lost in a good mile's haze, anyway. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005 Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses
Re: K10D Bundle? (2nd try)
All I would have to do then is decide exactly what I desire. Tall order. Jack --- Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 29, 2006, at 7:38 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I doubt that Pentax will release a RAW converter that can rival PSCS2 or some of the other software available. They could, if they wanted to tack on the cost of licensing a good RAW converter to the cost of the camera. I certainly don't want that -- I can spend that money separately on my own and get exactly what I desire. -Aaron __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: OT: How do you store your precious moments for posterity?
Will there be a program, a software piece able to read the PEFs or DNGs or JPGs or TIFFs in 25 years? Boris, you are not going to go to sleep like Rip Van Winkle, and wake up in 30 years to find that JPEGS are history. You'll see a new format introduced (if it is), and make new copies of your CDs in the new format. It is inconceivable that a new format would be introduced without a way to convert existing formats to it. When PNG came out, all regular imaging software embraced it. the problem is, though, that you will probably have to maintain an unbroken chain of conversions for however long you want to keep the files. This involves cost, either as work or as money, for each conversion. For large collections of photographs the cost may be quite significant. Since none of us can read the future we are betting that at the time when the next conversion becomes due we will be able to afford to convert a growing collection. I came to the conclusion a long time ago that decent prints are likely to be the best way to ensure the long(-ish) term survival of photographs, although I haven't actually done much about it since prints of that quality and longevity also involves a lot of cost. The only other possibility that might have a viable future is online storage similar to that that Google offer (or may offer soon). If storage online is cheap enough and secure enough, some company will offer it as a long-term archive for things like photos. They will take care of conversions transparently to the user, and economies of scale will make it profitable. Bob
Re: Local Gas Prices
Maybe to the international border, (12 mile limit)? Bob Shell wrote: On Apr 30, 2006, at 7:05 AM, graywolf wrote: Yep Canada is only about 10 million square kilometers just 10% bigger than the US. And you are wrong, Cotty. Bill is at least as big as you. USA is 9,631,418 square kilometers. Canada is 9, 976,410 square kilometers. That makes Canada 344,992 square kilometers larger. It's early for me to do math, but I think that makes Canada only about 3.5% bigger. I wonder if land area is customarily figured at low tide? Bob -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: PESO: Spring Trio
Nice composition, but it could have done with a bit more DOF to give a feel of depth. Paul Stenquist wrote: A little exercise in DOF and simple composition. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4397477 -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: gESO: What we've seen so far
Some very nice shots their Francis. The deer shots look a tad over sharp on my ibook, other than that,great work Dave Quoting Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: My DS arrived about three weeks ago and since then we've been having a simply wonderful honeymoon. :) http://www.photosynth.ca/photo/f/ds-gallery/ If you feel so inclined, when you're done enjoying/enduring, please share your honest and unreserved opinion of the photos. Thanks for looking, Francis There are two kinds of crazy people: the ones that know they're crazy, and everyone else. Equine Photography in York Region
Re: PESO - Just A Tree (Lone Cypress Envy)
Nice detail and an errie feel to it. Dave Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Shot on 17-mile drive in Monterey (which overall was a somewhat of a disappointment). There was a wooden platform built near the Lone Cypress that one could walk out onto to get a closer shot. But the Lone Cypress had a stone wall around the bottom and wires holding it up, so it didn't look at all natural. (One could take it from across the mini-bay where it might look more so.) This tree was at the edge of the platform and I liked its shape and also felt sorry for it. I mean, the Lone Cypress gets all the press. :-) Shot RAW. A tad soft, but I was shooting into the sun, and used Shadows/Highlights to lighten it up. Maybe too much. I wonder if I should clone out the twigs of another tree on the lower right? Nyah, probably not important enough to bother. Anyone, no one else has to like it, because I do. :-) http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/justatree.htm But comments still welcome. Marnie aka Doe ;-) Funny, I have made some comments on others' PESOs but only one has shown up on list so far. Equine Photography in York Region
Re: PESO: Spring Trio
Well done DOF exercise, Paul. Also, like overall 'soft' presentation. Jack --- P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice composition, but it could have done with a bit more DOF to give a feel of depth. Paul Stenquist wrote: A little exercise in DOF and simple composition. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4397477 -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
PESOs - Sea Flower/Find the Fish
Originally I sent these to PDML as separate PESOs. This is the second repost. After this, I'll give up. I'll skip my normal chatter in interest of a shorter message. But the usual disclaimer: through glass, water, blah, blah, large f stop, blah, blah, and accidentally shot JPEG. Nothing exciting, but I liked the simplicity of this. Sea Flower http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/seaflower.htm I liked the detail and pinkness of this. Also I think it's sort of fun. Find the FishHow many can you find? http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/findfish.htm Marnie aka Doe
Re: PESO: Spring Trio
In a message dated 4/30/2006 4:22:18 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A little exercise in DOF and simple composition. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4397477 Nice, Paul. Very pretty. Marnie aka Doe
Re: PESO - Just A Tree (Lone Cypress Envy)
Marnie, Messed with it some. Straightened the tilt and removed the resulting sloping cloud line at the bottom. Soft color added on it's own. I mentioned earlier that I like your image and still do. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=107 --- David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice detail and an errie feel to it. Dave Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Shot on 17-mile drive in Monterey (which overall was a somewhat of a disappointment). There was a wooden platform built near the Lone Cypress that one could walk out onto to get a closer shot. But the Lone Cypress had a stone wall around the bottom and wires holding it up, so it didn't look at all natural. (One could take it from across the mini-bay where it might look more so.) This tree was at the edge of the platform and I liked its shape and also felt sorry for it. I mean, the Lone Cypress gets all the press. :-) Shot RAW. A tad soft, but I was shooting into the sun, and used Shadows/Highlights to lighten it up. Maybe too much. I wonder if I should clone out the twigs of another tree on the lower right? Nyah, probably not important enough to bother. Anyone, no one else has to like it, because I do. :-) http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/justatree.htm But comments still welcome. Marnie aka Doe ;-) Funny, I have made some comments on others' PESOs but only one has shown up on list so far. Equine Photography in York Region __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: PESO - Today's Snap (TV House in Berkeley)
In a message dated 4/29/2006 5:29:59 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://home.earthlink.net/~morepix/tvh1437.html Tech: istDS, K24/2.8 @ F8.0, ISO 200 Shel Weird. The interesting thing is those screens are all clean. Someone must get out there and clean them off every day or something. (Berkeley gets rain and fog.) And some of them aren't that old. Maybe the guy repairs TVs, though I don't think he'd leave a TV to repair outside, it might get broken (more). Marnie aka Doe
Re: PESO - Just A Tree (Lone Cypress Envy)
Thanks! I'll probably clean it up similarly. Glad you like it. I am always a bit surprised when other people like my tree shots, because most are pretty simple. Not all, but most. I guess others like me, like trees. :-) Marnie aka Doe === In a message dated 4/30/2006 7:38:12 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Marnie, Messed with it some. Straightened the tilt and removed the resulting sloping cloud line at the bottom. Soft color added on it's own. I mentioned earlier that I like your image and still do. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=107 --- David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice detail and an errie feel to it. Dave Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Anyone, no one else has to like it, because I do. :-) http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/justatree.htm
Re: PESO - Today's Snap (TV House in Berkeley)
They are nutty folks in Berkeley, eh? ;-) Good pic! Godfrey On Apr 29, 2006, at 5:29 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: There's a little known house in South Berkeley that is decorated with TV sets. Today I grabbed a few shots with the DS and a K24/2.8. I'm not happy with that lens on the DS - doesn't seem particularly sharp, some actual focusing tests are in order. However, it seemed fun to put up this shot for your pleasure. http://home.earthlink.net/~morepix/tvh1437.html Tech: istDS, K24/2.8 @ F8.0, ISO 200
Re: OT: How do you store your precious moments for posterity?
On Sun, 30 Apr 2006 14:26:06 +0100, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will there be a program, a software piece able to read the PEFs or DNGs or JPGs or TIFFs in 25 years? Boris, you are not going to go to sleep like Rip Van Winkle, and wake up in 30 years to find that JPEGS are history. You'll see a new format introduced (if it is), and make new copies of your CDs in the new format. It is inconceivable that a new format would be introduced without a way to convert existing formats to it. When PNG came out, all regular imaging software embraced it. the problem is, though, that you will probably have to maintain an unbroken chain of conversions for however long you want to keep the files. This involves cost, either as work or as money, for each conversion. For large collections of photographs the cost may be quite significant. Since none of us can read the future we are betting that at the time when the next conversion becomes due we will be able to afford to convert a growing collection. I came to the conclusion a long time ago that decent prints are likely to be the best way to ensure the long(-ish) term survival of photographs, although I haven't actually done much about it since prints of that quality and longevity also involves a lot of cost. The only other possibility that might have a viable future is online storage similar to that that Google offer (or may offer soon). If storage online is cheap enough and secure enough, some company will offer it as a long-term archive for things like photos. They will take care of conversions transparently to the user, and economies of scale will make it profitable. I think you're overstating the problem. JPEGs have been around for longer than most people have owned a computer, and TIFFs for longer still (PEFs may disappear, so saving them as TIFFs is good for the long term). It's quite likely that JPEGs and TIFFs will still be going strong for the next thirty years, if not longer, and even if they aren't, more than one change in that time seems highly improbable. Think of the resistance from people with an investment in existing file formats. Personally, I use the hard disks in my computer for storage, plus a copy on a large portable hard-drive which can be taken off-site. I just don't have time for CDs and DVDs; retrieval is a nightmare. Cheap off-line back-up is a nice idea, though. The problem with image storage is not the technology or the formats, but devising a good indexing system, and sticking to it. If you can't find a particular image out of the 100s of 1,000s you have stored, what's the point of storing them? John -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
Re: CS and RAW files from DL2
On Apr 30, 2006, at 3:23 AM, mike wilson wrote: One thing that does annoy me and will no doubt cost me is that the built in flash is as bad as you would expect and I'll need to but an AF360Z to get any flash automation. AF280T, 200T and 400T all work well with it. But they do not do TTL metering with the DL/DL2. If the flash units have their own metering system, that will work. How fast is your write speed? Mine will take two shots, then takes about seven seconds to begin firing at about five second intervals. I don't know why it even has a continuous shooting option. All on different cards. Which model camera do you use? Godfrey
Re: PESO: Spring Trio
On Sun, 30 Apr 2006 12:20:48 +0100, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A little exercise in DOF and simple composition. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4397477 When I was young, I used to count the passing of the years by noting when the Miss World competition came round. Now I wait for the first tulip photo from Paul. I like it. John -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
Re: PESO: Spring Trio
On Apr 30, 2006, at 4:20 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: A little exercise in DOF and simple composition. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4397477 Nice. :-) Godfrey
Re: PESO: A year later
On Apr 30, 2006, at 5:21 AM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: http://www.photosight.ru/photo.php?photoid=1405285 Looks like a monster in amongst the rest of the village buildings. I like! Godfrey
Re: Re: CS and RAW files from DL2
From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why do you have to keep going into the menus? What are you changing, and why? I mostly don't have to, I just am at the moment as I'm playing with it. On the occasions where I have to, it's because the other user 8-))) has left it on a setting that I prefer not to use and it needs adjusting. It's OK but not yet instinctive but I found that the camera sometimes doesn't respond properly. Probably an issue with my example. In what way doesn't it respond properly? On occasions, it's not doing the stop down thing to take an exposure reading. Doubly annoying as it's not consistent. May just be a cleanliness of the lens mount issue. How fast is your write speed? Mine will take two shots, then takes about seven seconds to begin firing at about five second intervals. How fast is your SD card? I can get five continuous shots from the DS, and then one about every second or so thereafter. I'm using an 80X card, and it's noticeably faster than the slower card I used before. I believe the DL has at least the same buffer and write speed as the DS, and maybe even the ability to take advantage of faster cards. Don't know. It's a no-name (actually Dane-elec) 1Gb card I got for £14. Needed one in a hurry, so I got the cheapest option I could. The nearest name brand card was £90. I did try a card from work that was another non-famous brand and that was the same. The much smaller capacity Jessop's card (presumably based on a famous brand but quite old technology now) was similar. Can't find any buffer or write speed specs. Even if I could double the write speed, the result is still going to be a pain when, for example, trying to photograph birds at feeders. I haven't seen any options for firmware upgrades with the 2 yet, so that may have some bearing on the matter. mike - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: Re: CS and RAW files from DL2
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/04/30 Sun PM 02:53:53 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: CS and RAW files from DL2 On Apr 30, 2006, at 3:23 AM, mike wilson wrote: One thing that does annoy me and will no doubt cost me is that the built in flash is as bad as you would expect and I'll need to but an AF360Z to get any flash automation. AF280T, 200T and 400T all work well with it. But they do not do TTL metering with the DL/DL2. If the flash units have their own metering system, that will work. I'll have to check but I seem to have been very lucky so far if that's the case. How fast is your write speed? Mine will take two shots, then takes about seven seconds to begin firing at about five second intervals. I don't know why it even has a continuous shooting option. All on different cards. Which model camera do you use? DL2 Godfrey - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: Re: CS and RAW files from DL2
Unless the DL2 has been seriously downgraded, the buffer should hold five frames regardless of card write speed. -Aaron -Original Message- From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: Re: Re: CS and RAW files from DL2 Date: Sun Apr 30, 2006 10:58 am Size: 2K To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why do you have to keep going into the menus? What are you changing, and why? I mostly don't have to, I just am at the moment as I'm playing with it. On the occasions where I have to, it's because the other user 8-))) has left it on a setting that I prefer not to use and it needs adjusting. It's OK but not yet instinctive but I found that the camera sometimes doesn't respond properly. Probably an issue with my example. In what way doesn't it respond properly? On occasions, it's not doing the stop down thing to take an exposure reading. Doubly annoying as it's not consistent. May just be a cleanliness of the lens mount issue. How fast is your write speed? Mine will take two shots, then takes about seven seconds to begin firing at about five second intervals. How fast is your SD card? I can get five continuous shots from the DS, and then one about every second or so thereafter. I'm using an 80X card, and it's noticeably faster than the slower card I used before. I believe the DL has at least the same buffer and write speed as the DS, and maybe even the ability to take advantage of faster cards. Don't know. It's a no-name (actually Dane-elec) 1Gb card I got for £14. Needed one in a hurry, so I got the cheapest option I could. The nearest name brand card was £90. I did try a card from work that was another non-famous brand and that was the same. The much smaller capacity Jessop's card (presumably based on a famous brand but quite old technology now) was similar. Can't find any buffer or write speed specs. Even if I could double the write speed, the result is still going to be a pain when, for example, trying to photograph birds at feeders. I haven't seen any options for firmware upgrades with the 2 yet, so that may have some bearing on the matter. mike - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: PESO - Today's Snap (TV House in Berkeley)
On Sun, 30 Apr 2006 15:40:16 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 4/29/2006 5:29:59 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://home.earthlink.net/~morepix/tvh1437.html Tech: istDS, K24/2.8 @ F8.0, ISO 200 Shel Weird. The interesting thing is those screens are all clean. Someone must get out there and clean them off every day or something. (Berkeley gets rain and fog.) And some of them aren't that old. Maybe the guy repairs TVs, though I don't think he'd leave a TV to repair outside, it might get broken (more). It's just the SMC coating, cutting through the grime. John -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
Re: Local Gas Prices
Maybe because of the production of polyester is a more complex than gas and the oil price has less effect? Anyway, without going into details of the earnings of oil companies it is a fact that Norway is making lots of money these days because of the price of crude oil, both through the state owned oil company and through tax on oil production. I can´t see why this should be very different for the oil companies who is pumping the oil up from the ground as long as the tax is the same (which it is). On the other hand, and back to one earlier question: Why should anyone in this international marked reduce the prices in one region for pure kindness? Crude oil goes to the highest bidder, and the costs of the resulting products will increase according to the part of the production costs that the crude oil price represents. It´s a free market and they have enough buyers. The only way to change that is to develop other solutions making us independent of oil, but I´m afraid the oil price will have to be a lot higher for that to happen. DagT Den 30. apr. 2006 kl. 13.03 skrev graywolf: That would be so if... If gasoline was the only product they got from a barrel of crude. If they had no tax deductions before reporting those profits. If... It is pretty much the way the Rolex Watches Company is. They give ALL their profits to charity (legally true). However the are family owned and family members hold all the board of directors seats and the board of directors are paid extremely well. Of course profits are what is left after the BOD is paid. Great publicity and it does not cost the owners a thing out of their pockets. Profits are what is left after you figure in every legally possible deduction. It is good business to leave that figure at a level that will attract investors, but no higher. But any good accountant will tell you that number is very adjustable as long as the business in actually (as opposed to legally) operating in the black. Many people seem to have a very simplistic idea of economics. If the price of crude goes up 10% the price of a pair of polyester slacks does not triple in a few days. Why not? They are made out of that same crude oil. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Re: Local Gas Prices Gallons of gas sold is only a part of such a company's profit picture. Profits are generated from other areas as well, including investments and refining. Almost 1/4 of their profits came from refining. For example, when they bought or contracted for crude @ $40.00 per barrel, and the price jumped to $60.00 per barrel, they did quite well. However, Exxon/ Mobile did not control the price of crude - they just benefited from it. According to a report I heard Wednesday or Thursday, the percentage of profit made by Exxon/Mobile was about 7%, similar to the profit percentages of many other businesses. While I'm not being an apologist for the oil companies, their return on investment and profits - from a percentage standpoint - doesn't seem excessive. Actually, there are many companies in many other fields that generate larger profits in terms of percentage. Someone was making a simplistic statement about how much money they made, I was asking a simplistic question about how much product they sold to make that money. I asked because if you break it down to dollars made vs. gallons sold you will find that they don't have much margin to lower the price per gallon, which was intimated by another poster. Your reply confirms what I was implying. William Robb
Re: K10D Bundle? (2nd try)
The new lenses that have been announced are not suited to full frame 35mm. They are DA lenses. On Apr 30, 2006, at 8:56 AM, Jack Davis wrote: I want to believe it, especially since it is to include 35mm. Jack --- graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since they replaced their entire lens line with the M series (that was what? 30 lenses?)in 1977, I find that statement hard to believe. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Paul Stenquist wrote: Based on press releases, Pentax will be introducing more lenses in the next year than they have ever brought to market in that short a time. Paul On Apr 29, 2006, at 8:45 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Faint hope for sure, but more 35mm lens introductions would satisfy a fantasy. Jack --- John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 29 Apr 2006 23:52:37 +0100, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What software will be bundled with the K10D? Hot new RAW converter? Wish I were better equipped to know what to hope for. It's highly unlikely that any camera manufacturer is going to produce a better RAW convertor than those made by the likes of Adobe and Phase One, inter alia. So better to hope for something else. :-) Like an A-S (IS) system that works with old lenses, and full K/M usability. John Jack __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: PESO: Spring Trio
Thanks for looking. In truth, less DOF usually suggests depth. Limited DOF was part of the exercise here. Paul On Apr 30, 2006, at 10:10 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: Nice composition, but it could have done with a bit more DOF to give a feel of depth. Paul Stenquist wrote: A little exercise in DOF and simple composition. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4397477 -- When you're worried or in doubt,Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: K10D Bundle? (2nd try)
John Forbes wrote: On Sun, 30 Apr 2006 02:38:46 +0100, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Forbes wrote: On Sat, 29 Apr 2006 23:52:37 +0100, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What software will be bundled with the K10D? Hot new RAW converter? Wish I were better equipped to know what to hope for. It's highly unlikely that any camera manufacturer is going to produce a better RAW convertor than those made by the likes of Adobe and Phase One, inter alia. So better to hope for something else. :-) Like an A-S (IS) system that works with old lenses, and full K/M usability. John Nikon has. Capture 4 produces better output than ACR or Capture One Pro do from the sam RAW file. But it's got UI and backend issues (Slow, Slow, Slow, and poor batch support). Canon's RAW software is as good as ACR. -Adam As I have no interest in these makes, I am not up to speed. But I am surprised you say that Nikon's and Canon's RAW convertors are better than P1 and ACR. Is this a general opinion, or your own? And if the latter, do you know all four programs well? Incidentally, I did say a better RAW convertor, by which I meant the whole program. Being Slow, Slow, Slow, rather cuts Nikon out of the picture. John Nikon's is better, Canon's is equal. General opinion, not mine (I find ACR quit adequate quality-wise for anything I've shot in RAW, be it on an *istD, 20D or D50) -Adam
Re: Re: CS and RAW files from DL2
From: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/04/30 Sun PM 03:11:00 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Re: CS and RAW files from DL2 Unless the DL2 has been seriously downgraded, the buffer should hold five frames regardless of card write speed. -Aaron That's the bit that's bothering me. m -Original Message- From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: Re: Re: CS and RAW files from DL2 Date: Sun Apr 30, 2006 10:58 am Size: 2K To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why do you have to keep going into the menus? What are you changing, and why? I mostly don't have to, I just am at the moment as I'm playing with it. On the occasions where I have to, it's because the other user 8-))) has left it on a setting that I prefer not to use and it needs adjusting. It's OK but not yet instinctive but I found that the camera sometimes doesn't respond properly. Probably an issue with my example. In what way doesn't it respond properly? On occasions, it's not doing the stop down thing to take an exposure reading. Doubly annoying as it's not consistent. May just be a cleanliness of the lens mount issue. How fast is your write speed? Mine will take two shots, then takes about seven seconds to begin firing at about five second intervals. How fast is your SD card? I can get five continuous shots from the DS, and then one about every second or so thereafter. I'm using an 80X card, and it's noticeably faster than the slower card I used before. I believe the DL has at least the same buffer and write speed as the DS, and maybe even the ability to take advantage of faster cards. Don't know. It's a no-name (actually Dane-elec) 1Gb card I got for £14. Needed one in a hurry, so I got the cheapest option I could. The nearest name brand card was £90. I did try a card from work that was another non-famous brand and that was the same. The much smaller capacity Jessop's card (presumably based on a famous brand but quite old technology now) was similar. Can't find any buffer or write speed specs. Even if I could double the write speed, the result is still going to be a pain when, for example, trying to photograph birds at feeders. I haven't seen any options for firmware upgrades with the 2 yet, so that may have some bearing on the matter. mike - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: Re: CS and RAW files from DL2
From Pentax.ca: The *istDL2 records up to five images (at best image quality in 6 megapixel JPEG format) or three images (in RAW format) consecutively at a speed of approximately 2.8 frames per second, allowing the user to capture a series of photos of the subjects motion. -Aaron -Original Message- From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: Re: Re: CS and RAW files from DL2 Date: Sun Apr 30, 2006 11:33 am Size: 2K To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net From: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/04/30 Sun PM 03:11:00 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Re: CS and RAW files from DL2 Unless the DL2 has been seriously downgraded, the buffer should hold five frames regardless of card write speed. -Aaron That's the bit that's bothering me. m -Original Message- From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: Re: Re: CS and RAW files from DL2 Date: Sun Apr 30, 2006 10:58 am Size: 2K To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why do you have to keep going into the menus? What are you changing, and why? I mostly don't have to, I just am at the moment as I'm playing with it. On the occasions where I have to, it's because the other user 8-))) has left it on a setting that I prefer not to use and it needs adjusting. It's OK but not yet instinctive but I found that the camera sometimes doesn't respond properly. Probably an issue with my example. In what way doesn't it respond properly? On occasions, it's not doing the stop down thing to take an exposure reading. Doubly annoying as it's not consistent. May just be a cleanliness of the lens mount issue. How fast is your write speed? Mine will take two shots, then takes about seven seconds to begin firing at about five second intervals. How fast is your SD card? I can get five continuous shots from the DS, and then one about every second or so thereafter. I'm using an 80X card, and it's noticeably faster than the slower card I used before. I believe the DL has at least the same buffer and write speed as the DS, and maybe even the ability to take advantage of faster cards. Don't know. It's a no-name (actually Dane-elec) 1Gb card I got for £14. Needed one in a hurry, so I got the cheapest option I could. The nearest name brand card was £90. I did try a card from work that was another non-famous brand and that was the same. The much smaller capacity Jessop's card (presumably based on a famous brand but quite old technology now) was similar. Can't find any buffer or write speed specs. Even if I could double the write speed, the result is still going to be a pain when, for example, trying to photograph birds at feeders. I haven't seen any options for firmware upgrades with the 2 yet, so that may have some bearing on the matter. mike - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: batteries discharging quickly in *istD
My experience is similar to others. I use the grip, but for my own convenience, I only put batteries in the grip. I get about 800-1200 shots on a set of lithiums. These will last several shooting sessions for me, so I don't feel the need to load two sets of batteries in the camera. I got tired of babysitting several sets of NiMH batteries after only a few months. I would only get 300-400 shots on a full charge. But if the cameras sat unused for a few days, the batteries would naturally discharge. It just wasn't worth the trouble. The NiMH batteries are now happily being cycled through a couple of radios and single-use Lithium Ions batteries power the D. By the way, you can by extra battery holders for the grip. I keep a loaded one in the camera bag. When your hands are full or you're in an awkward position, it's much more convenient to exchange the battery holder than fumble with individual batteries. See you later, gs
RE: GESO - Starting a photo blog
Hi Boris long pages need a home button at the end for me for easy navigation. Some more anchors may be helpful too to jump directly to certain parts of the site. I hate too much scrolling with the mouse. greetings Markus Here is the first entry... http://boris71.livejournal.com/4514.html#cutid1 I want to know if the way it is presented is convenient for you. No pop ups, no resized browser windows, etc... Please notice, the entry has two JPGs each of about 130 Kb big. Also, if you decide to look around my LJ, please be informed that it is part Russian part English.
Re: Local Gas Prices
Thesis plus antithesis equals synthesis. You both have valid points. Having driven transit in the 80's the busses were full during rush hours and practically empty the rest of the time. You have to run busses frequently enough to make them practical to use. My solution to that would be to use full sized busses for peak hours and van/ light truck based mini-busses for the rest of the time on routes that were not heavily used. I do agree that subways generally carry enough to make them effective. Air travel could probably benefit from some smaller, more fuel efficient turbo prop aircraft to service less popular runs. However, between government regulations and political concerns I doubt that many of the suggestions would be viable. My 2¢ Butch
Re: OT: How do you store your precious moments for posterity?
Bob - I don't see the time or cost of format conversion as different than the investment I'm making in scanning slides and prints into digital formats. And digital files are much easier and cheaper to convert to new formats than film and paper. Usually these conversions can be performed over a relatively long period of time. It's rare that everything must be converted on short notice. I see the situation as better than that of film conversion. As far as cheap on-line storage is concerned, I mentioned one current partial solution for photos earlier in the this thread. Others cannot be far behind. But US$ 40 per year for unlimited storage of jpg files is extremely cheap. Given that four copies of the files are stored in three locations in different regions of the country I feel pretty secure in using this as one part of my backup strategy. See you later, gs http://georgesphotos.net On 4/30/06, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip the problem is, though, that you will probably have to maintain an unbroken chain of conversions for however long you want to keep the files. This involves cost, either as work or as money, for each conversion. snip The only other possibility that might have a viable future is online storage similar to that that Google offer (or may offer soon). If storage online is cheap enough and secure enough, some company will offer it as a long-term archive for things like photos. They will take care of conversions transparently to the user, and economies of scale will make it profitable. Bob
Re: PESOs - Sea Flower/Find the Fish
Gee, Marnie, I looked at these and they're nice, and all, but I didn't really have any constructive criticism so I just let it pass. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Originally I sent these to PDML as separate PESOs. This is the second repost. After this, I'll give up. I'll skip my normal chatter in interest of a shorter message. But the usual disclaimer: through glass, water, blah, blah, large f stop, blah, blah, and accidentally shot JPEG. Nothing exciting, but I liked the simplicity of this. Sea Flower http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/seaflower.htm I liked the detail and pinkness of this. Also I think it's sort of fun. Find the FishHow many can you find? http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/findfish.htm Marnie aka Doe -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: Local Gas Prices
Those numbers are pretty close to what I came up with for Canada, but not for the US. However I did not do an exhaustive search but just took the numbers from the first sight google came up with. Yes by the numbers I came up with it was actually only 7-8% bigger but I figured I would round it up to 10%, should have remembered I was posting to nit picking central. I suppose if I say the population of Canada is slightly greater than Rhode Island you guys will jump on me about exactly how much slightly is. GRIN! graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- P. J. Alling wrote: Maybe to the international border, (12 mile limit)? Bob Shell wrote: On Apr 30, 2006, at 7:05 AM, graywolf wrote: Yep Canada is only about 10 million square kilometers just 10% bigger than the US. And you are wrong, Cotty. Bill is at least as big as you. USA is 9,631,418 square kilometers. Canada is 9, 976,410 square kilometers. That makes Canada 344,992 square kilometers larger. It's early for me to do math, but I think that makes Canada only about 3.5% bigger. I wonder if land area is customarily figured at low tide? Bob
Re: batteries discharging quickly in *istD
Paul wrote: LIthium AAs in the grip and camera. I get approximately 2000 exposures. Always. AA lithiums, huh? I'll have to look into those. In the meantime, I have been using CR-V3s, and have been completely satisfied with the service they give me. Don't the Nikon and Canon models take only proprietary rechargeable batteries? I consider that a fatal flaw, not least because sometimes I work in the northern Sahel, where there is no electricity. I hope Pentax keeps their current DSLR battery options in the new models. Joe
RE: Local gas prices
Thesis plus antithesis equals synthesis. You both have valid points. Having driven transit in the 80's the busses were full during rush hours and practically empty the rest of the time. You have to run busses frequently enough to make them practical to use. My solution to that would be to use full sized busses for peak hours and van/ light truck based mini-busses for the rest of the time on routes that were not heavily used. I do agree that subways generally carry enough to make them effective. Air travel could probably benefit from some smaller, more fuel efficient turbo prop aircraft to service less popular runs. However, between government regulations and political concerns I doubt that many of the suggestions would be viable. My 2¢ Butch On 4/28/06, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What makes you think public transportation is more environmentally friendly than private? My only jet airliner trip had about 12 passengers on board. I figure that cost about 100 times as much for fuel per person as driving cars did. The concept that public transportation is cheaper is based upon the unfounded idea that it is always operation at capacity. In fact very little public transportation operates at more than 10% of capacity overall. After all it has to be sized to carry the rush hour traffic, but has to run all the time or it would not be a viable alternative at all. I have often noticed that Eco Freaks have a very strange concept of how economics work. Tom, I'm sure you know very well that when someone (in the context of conserving resources) they're likely talking about mass transit, rather than air transportation. You can throw all the numbers you want at me, but no one's going to tell me that a subway in a major city during rush hour doesn't save energy and reduce pollution, as compared to driving personal vehicles. Just imagine: in Toronto during rush hour, there's an average of 1000 passengers ~per train~. The trains come by on average every five minutes. That's a lot of cars ~not~ on the road. No matter what you may say about public transportation, public transit or mass transit in major urban centres must form an important part of any energy-saving, pollution-control plan, IMHO. cheers, frank
Re: PESO - Today's Snap (TV House in Berkeley)
Hi, aka Doe ;-)) If you look closely, even on this low-quality JPEG, you'll see that the screens and the TV sets are not all clean. The Daewoo (the black set in the foreground) has cobwebs on it, and the set in the upper right corner (with the smaller set on top of it) is quite dirty. Other sets, which can't be seen in this pic, are also dirty. The sets are replaced at intervals as passersby sometimes steal a TV, or kids throw rocks at them and break the screens. Come back in a couple of weeks and there may be some different sets on display. Roger, whose house it is, and whose idea it was for the TV display, is not a TV repairman. Here's snap of Roger http://home.earthlink.net/~morepix/tvh_roger.html This also shows very clearly the problem I seem to be having with the K24/2.8 on the DS. Shel [Original Message] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~morepix/tvh1437.html Weird. The interesting thing is those screens are all clean. Someone must get out there and clean them off every day or something. (Berkeley gets rain and fog.) And some of them aren't that old. Maybe the guy repairs TVs, though I don't think he'd leave a TV to repair outside, it might get broken (more). Marnie aka Doe
Re: batteries discharging quickly in *istD
La Crosse charger highly recommended. I read the La Crosse delivers a more reliable charge at 500-700ma as it can do a better job of detecting the cut off point. I was having some flaky battery problems at 200ma which vanished when I upped the charge rate. 700ma is still well below the safe charge limit. One bad battery in a set can ruin your day and you need a charger with individual circuits and a readout to spot the bad one. I have also found some NiMH can self discharge much faster than the advertised rate. Powell At 12:16 AM 30/04/2006 , Don wrote: If you get a La Crosse charger you'll be able to keep your NiMH cells healthy. I think a good way to shorten the life of NiMH cells is to fast charge them. I charge mine at 200 ma.
Re: batteries discharging quickly in *istD
CR-V3's ~are~ essentially AA Lithiums, just packaged differently. In the FWIW department, I'm pushing 1500 exposures on a set of 4 Energizer AA Lithium batteries, and there's no indication that the batteries are losing effectiveness. The indicator shows a full charge. Shel [Original Message] From: Joseph Tainter LIthium AAs in the grip and camera. I get approximately 2000 exposures. Always. AA lithiums, huh? I'll have to look into those. In the meantime, I have been using CR-V3s, and have been completely satisfied with the service they give me.
Re: batteries discharging quickly in *istD
Joseph Tainter wrote: Paul wrote: LIthium AAs in the grip and camera. I get approximately 2000 exposures. Always. AA lithiums, huh? I'll have to look into those. In the meantime, I have been using CR-V3s, and have been completely satisfied with the service they give me. Don't the Nikon and Canon models take only proprietary rechargeable batteries? I consider that a fatal flaw, not least because sometimes I work in the northern Sahel, where there is no electricity. I hope Pentax keeps their current DSLR battery options in the new models. Joe By default, it's only the proprietary rechargables, but the available battery grips will also take AA's in an emergency (All of the non-1 series Canons, and the Nikon D200 and D100 offer grips, 3rd party grips are available for the lower-end Nikons). -Adam
Re: GESO - Starting a photo blog
In a message dated 4/30/2006 12:20:03 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here is the first entry... http://boris71.livejournal.com/4514.html#cutid1 I want to know if the way it is presented is convenient for you. No pop ups, no resized browser windows, etc... Please notice, the entry has two JPGs each of about 130 Kb big. Also, if you decide to look around my LJ, please be informed that it is part Russian part English. Thanks. -- Boris = Looks fine. I've used LJ myself in the past, but not for showing photos. Seems to work well. BTW, I think there should be a ban on showing pictures of chocolate on list. Like everyone can show all the nudes they want, but no chocolate. :-) You have ads on your street signs? Marnie aka Doe aka the chocoholic
Re: PESO: A year later
Didn't see the original post for this. Nice shot! What Godfrey said. Interesting and weird. Marnie aka Doe == On Apr 30, 2006, at 5:21 AM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: http://www.photosight.ru/photo.php?photoid=1405285 Looks like a monster in amongst the rest of the village buildings. I like! Godfrey
Re: GESO - Starting a photo blog
Hi! Hi Boris long pages need a home button at the end for me for easy navigation. Some more anchors may be helpful too to jump directly to certain parts of the site. I hate too much scrolling with the mouse. greetings Markus Markus, I see what you're saying. I am rather new in this LJ thingie... I am learning on the way. I'll see if what you say can be taken into account in the future. However, I hope that my future photoblog entries will contain just one picture, which I believe will be at least partial answer to your remark. Boris
Re: PESO: Spring Trio
Hi! A little exercise in DOF and simple composition. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4397477 Cute little exercise indeed... The above has no intended pun ;-). Boris
Re: PESO - Today's Snap (TV House in Berkeley)
This is not the only house in the area that has been decorated with TV sets, but, by far, it has the largest collection. A couple of others have but one or two out on the lawn or on the porch or the stoop. Thanks for the comments ;-)) Shel [Original Message] From: Godfrey DiGiorgi They are nutty folks in Berkeley, eh? ;-) Good pic! Shel Belinkoff wrote: There's a little known house in South Berkeley that is decorated with TV sets. Today I grabbed a few shots with the DS and a K24/2.8. I'm not happy with that lens on the DS - doesn't seem particularly sharp, some actual focusing tests are in order. However, it seemed fun to put up this shot for your pleasure. http://home.earthlink.net/~morepix/tvh1437.html Tech: istDS, K24/2.8 @ F8.0, ISO 200
Re: CS and RAW files from DL2
Aaron Reynolds wrote: From Pentax.ca: The *istDL2 records up to five images (at “best” image quality in 6 megapixel JPEG format) or three images (in RAW format) consecutively at a speed of approximately 2.8 frames per second, allowing the user to capture a series of photos of the subject’s motion. -Aaron That's what I'm getting. I can take pictures about every 3seconds+ if I take them seperately. If I hold the shutter button down it does the handbook thing. So about as fast as I can shoot using my thumb to wind on. Lame. I'll have to set up approach paths and strict landing zones in the garden. 8-) Just had a play with it on some Blue Tits filling their nest box with fluffy stuff and sorted out a few problems. The camera does its stop down thing if you have pressed the shutter button. In other words, it's not enough for the camera to be on, it has to be ON. Not clear in the manual, IIRC. mike
Re: Small, Portable Ink Jet Printer - Image Storage
Thanks to everyone who replied to my request about printers. Both the Epson and the HP look to be good options. I've passed the suggestions along to my friend, and she'll soon make the decision. Shel
Re: PESO - Today's Snap (TV House in Berkeley)
Hi! There's a little known house in South Berkeley that is decorated with TV sets. Today I grabbed a few shots with the DS and a K24/2.8. I'm not happy with that lens on the DS - doesn't seem particularly sharp, some actual focusing tests are in order. However, it seemed fun to put up this shot for your pleasure. http://home.earthlink.net/~morepix/tvh1437.html Tech: istDS, K24/2.8 @ F8.0, ISO 200 Shel, I should say I am rather surprised by your assessment of K 24/2.8 on DS... I used to have K 24/2.8 and I have some pretty large (A4/A3) prints made from the photographs I took with this lens and my *istD. The aperture you mentioned seems just about perfect... May be you would reconsider ;-). Boris
Re: GESO - Starting a photo blog
Nice, Boris! You'll find that committing yourself to posting pictures regularly does great things for your photography. LJ is ok but if you have web space in some other sever, I recommend you look into pixelpost (pixelpost.org) or other photoblog software. Moses -- keep walking cracked me up, btw. Good thing that sign wasn't there back in the time... :) j On 4/30/06, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! I happen to have an LJ account. So I thought I'd use my web space for holding my pics and my LJ for having a photo-blog... Here is the first entry... http://boris71.livejournal.com/4514.html#cutid1 I want to know if the way it is presented is convenient for you. No pop ups, no resized browser windows, etc... Please notice, the entry has two JPGs each of about 130 Kb big. Also, if you decide to look around my LJ, please be informed that it is part Russian part English. Thanks. -- Boris -- Juan Buhler Water Molotov: http://photoblog.jbuhler.com Slippery Slope: http://color.jbuhler.com
Re: PESOs - Sea Flower/Find the Fish
Marnie, Check the archives. Quite a few messages aren't making it to the list, such as my comments on Sea Flower. Rick --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Originally I sent these to PDML as separate PESOs. This is the second repost. After this, I'll give up. I'll skip my normal chatter in interest of a shorter message. But the usual disclaimer: through glass, water, blah, blah, large f stop, blah, blah, and accidentally shot JPEG. Nothing exciting, but I liked the simplicity of this. Sea Flower http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/seaflower.htm I liked the detail and pinkness of this. Also I think it's sort of fun. Find the FishHow many can you find? http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/findfish.htm Marnie aka Doe http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: batteries discharging quickly in *istD
Shel: CR-V3's ~are~ essentially AA Lithiums, just packaged differently. Okay -- can one use AA lithiums (pl: lithia?) in anything where one might use AAs? In a flash unit? Thanks. Me: Don't the Nikon and Canon models take only proprietary rechargeable batteries? I consider that a fatal flaw Adam: By default, it's only the proprietary rechargables, but the available battery grips will also take AA's I've never warmed to grips, so for my use the Nikons and Canons are fatally flawed -- in at least this area. Joe
Re: batteries discharging quickly in *istD
On 30/4/06, Joseph Tainter, discombobulated, unleashed: Don't the Nikon and Canon models take only proprietary rechargeable batteries? I consider that a fatal flaw, not least because sometimes I work in the northern Sahel, where there is no electricity. I hope Pentax keeps their current DSLR battery options in the new models. Quite a few Canons use the BP-511 or similar: http://tinyurl.com/o66gm 1D series use the NP-E3 http://tinyurl.com/lmmbu Personally I have 2 NP-E3s and a Quantum Turbo 2X2 which will also power the camera (simultaneously with the flash) if necessary. I didn't quit Pentax digital because of batteries, but if the *ist D had been released at the same time as the D60, it would have been the nail in the coffin for me. I wanted to get away from AA's. YMMV Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: batteries discharging quickly in *istD
- Original Message - From: Cotty Subject: Re: batteries discharging quickly in *istD Quite a few Canons use the BP-511 or similar: http://tinyurl.com/o66gm FWIW, my old Canon G1, which I expect is 5 or so years old now, is still running just fine on it's original BP-511 Lithium-Ion battery. William Robb
Re: batteries discharging quickly in *istD
- Original Message - From: Joseph Tainter Subject: Re: batteries discharging quickly in *istD Shel: CR-V3's ~are~ essentially AA Lithiums, just packaged differently. Okay -- can one use AA lithiums (pl: lithia?) in anything where one might use AAs? In a flash unit? Thanks. No. They are not a direct replacement, in that they generally won't fit the battery bays of flash units. The battery bay is the istD and grip are shaped in such a way that they can fit either AA or CR-3V. William Robb
Re: batteries discharging quickly in *istD
Joseph Tainter wrote: Shel: CR-V3's ~are~ essentially AA Lithiums, just packaged differently. Okay -- can one use AA lithiums (pl: lithia?) in anything where one might use AAs? In a flash unit? Thanks. Yes, if the unit can handle the voltage difference (AA lithiums are 1.25 volt) and different internal resistance. They are distinctly superior in flash units (As are NiMH's) as the internal resistance difference from Alkalines means that the flash will recharge twice as fast with Lithium or NiMH's as compared to Alkalines. Me: Don't the Nikon and Canon models take only proprietary rechargeable batteries? I consider that a fatal flaw Adam: By default, it's only the proprietary rechargables, but the available battery grips will also take AA's I've never warmed to grips, so for my use the Nikons and Canons are fatally flawed -- in at least this area. Joe Yeah, if you don't like grips, that's an issue. But the proprietary packs are relatively cheap, so buying several is a definite possibility. -Adam
Re: PESOs - Sea Flower/Find the Fish
In a message dated 4/30/2006 10:54:05 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Marnie, Check the archives. Quite a few messages aren't making it to the list, such as my comments on Sea Flower. Rick === Well, do. Drat, I meant to check the archives daily. Marnie aka Doe
