RE: DS2 extreme heat torture test

2006-07-17 Thread Jens Bladt
Brave man!
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Anyone who wants to know how the DS2 fares in extreme heat and humidity
can ask me tomorrow night -- I'm covering the Jays - Mariners game
Sunday afternoon.  It starts at 1:00 on a day that is forecast to break
all heat records for this part of the world at this time of year, and I
will be using the DS2 in direct sunlight for about three hours.

Yes, I am going to wear sunscreen.

-Aaron

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RE: funny K10D story

2006-07-17 Thread Jens Bladt
WOW, I must start saving real quick - the fall isn't that far ahead!
For studiowork, I don't think 6MP is quite enough, because I can't really
crop later. I must crop while shooting, in order to get enough resolution.
10 MP would be just about what I want, resolution wise :-) Then I might jsut
as well sell my 6x6 Pentacon outfit.
Would it look anything like this:
http://www.digitalcamera.jp/html/HotNews/image/2006-05/20/GX2-1.jpg
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On Jul 16, 2006, at 12:42 AM, Jens Bladt wrote:

 But that's not a 10MP body, is it?

Hi Jens -- the K10D (not the K110D) is a 10MP body.  It is a higher-end
machine than the current offerings.  You'd probably want it if you
played with it.  It'll be out in the fall.

The clutch I played with was on the new 40mm limited pancake.  It also
appears on the new primes.  Someone who's played with the new zooms
will have to tell you whether or not it appears on those as well.  The
clutch works on any body, though the lenses have no aperture ring so
they are not fully compatible with older bodies.

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RE: PESO don't eat like a pig!

2006-07-17 Thread Bob W
This is an instance when I would really like to have seen those birds
on a twig!

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 Not your typical catchlight and twig bird shot.  I really 
 like it despite
 some technical flaws.  Nicely timed!
 
 Shel
 
 
 
  [Original Message]
  From: Igor Roshchin 
 
  http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/CentralCoastCA/IMGP3490sm.jpg



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Re: follow up on DS speed test

2006-07-17 Thread Cotty
On 16/7/06, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed:

Hmmm ... I may have been a little hasty.

Mark!

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Re: PESO: Wild Oats

2006-07-17 Thread Cotty
On 16/7/06, Jack Davis, discombobulated, unleashed:

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=132

Very graphic image. The only thing I would say is that the sky needs
'dusting' ;-)

I rather like it.

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Re: PESO: Some plastic (definitely) not from Pentax

2006-07-17 Thread Toralf Lund

 Great shot. A Holga no doubt.
   
Thanks.

Right you are. I just had to get one of those, after I came across some 
Holga enthusiasts' web pages last year. These really put a smile on my 
face, in fact I'm pretty much smiling still ;-)

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Re: funny K10D story

2006-07-17 Thread Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu
On 7/16/06, Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The clutch I played with was on the new 40mm limited pancake.  It also
 appears on the new primes.  Someone who's played with the new zooms
 will have to tell you whether or not it appears on those as well.  The
 clutch works on any body, though the lenses have no aperture ring so
 they are not fully compatible with older bodies.

 -Aaron3w


I've tested the DA 16-45 f/4 (btw are you also dissapointed by it's
construction? There is a huge play in the focusing ring and the
barrel, almost as in the FA 28-80 f/3.5-5.6)  with my MZ-6, after AF
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Re: PESO don't eat like a pig!

2006-07-17 Thread Toralf Lund

 ... 'cause you are a bird!
 (who cares that you can't fly?!)

 http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/CentralCoastCA/IMGP3490sm.jpg
   
Like someone else said: Definitely not your average bird shot. I 
rather like it.

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Re: Harvest Shower per Marnie

2006-07-17 Thread David Savage
On 7/17/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In a message dated 7/16/2006 9:46:25 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 I think bales look too modern. You should turn them into sheaves. And
 where are the peasants? It would be the work of a few seconds to cut
 'n' paste these two in there:
 http://www.barbizon-france.com/english/Pages/Barbizon/peintur/jfmill/a
 ng2.html

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 =
 Now you're just being silly.


 What it needs is cows.

 Marnie aka Doe ;-)

Sheep would be a better option.

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Re: PESO: Wild Oats

2006-07-17 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks. Cotty! 
You're right, I'm a lousy housekeeper. Especially when it comes to
these quick and casual uploads.

Jack

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 Very graphic image. The only thing I would say is that the sky needs
 'dusting' ;-)
 
 I rather like it.
 
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Re: DS2 extreme heat torture test

2006-07-17 Thread brooksdj
Good to hear Aaron.

My D2H held up at the horse show today aswell. Mind you with a black lens and 
black body,
it got 
pretty hot to hold sometimes.

I really gotta find horse shows that have seats and shade trees from now on. 
gGood news
is the 
chest pains were minimal.LOL

I hope you told them its supposed to exit like that. Pentax's way of seeing if 
we're
paying attention.:-)


Dave

 
  [Original Message]
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  Camera performed normally in the heat with one exception -- while using 
  it in portrait orientation, the card door got very, very hot.  I popped 
  it open to change cards and the card flew straight up into the air like 
  it had been fired out of a cannon!  I caught it on the way down.
 
  Of course, everyone else in the camera bay saw it because it was in 
  between innings.  Apparently I looked really nonchalant about catching 
  it, because one of the other guys asked me Is it supposed to do that?
 
  The images were fine on the card.  Dunno why it did that.
 
 
 
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Re: funny K10D story

2006-07-17 Thread William Robb

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From: Jens Bladt
Subject: RE: funny K10D story


 WOW, I must start saving real quick - the fall isn't that far ahead!
 For studiowork, I don't think 6MP is quite enough, because I can't really
 crop later. I must crop while shooting, in order to get enough resolution.


Not cropping later is related to getting it right in camera, and doing less 
post processing.
We discussed this with you last week with your exposure problems.

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Re: funny K10D story

2006-07-17 Thread pnstenquist
There's no excuse for not getting the frame correct in a studio shot. One 
certainly has enough time to think about it. 
Paul
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  WOW, I must start saving real quick - the fall isn't that far ahead!
  For studiowork, I don't think 6MP is quite enough, because I can't really
  crop later. I must crop while shooting, in order to get enough resolution.
 
 
 Not cropping later is related to getting it right in camera, and doing less 
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 We discussed this with you last week with your exposure problems.
 
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PESO - Demo

2006-07-17 Thread Shel Belinkoff
http://home.earthlink.net/~morepix/demo.html

 
Pentax MX, Tri-X @ 250 in ID-11

 
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Re: PESO - Demo

2006-07-17 Thread Jack Davis
What were you trying to show?

Jack

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RE: funny K10D story

2006-07-17 Thread Jens Bladt
Well, there is IMO. I can't always know exactly how I want to use the image.
I often see posibilities in an image AFTER it's has been taken. A smile my
turn out differently, the angle of the eyes. A shoulder that is to
domitating, which I did't notice because I was concentratiog on the eyes or
the right smile - must be cropped away. I often decide what the main
attraction is later, then I crop it accordingly to emphasize this certain
quality. Photographers have always done this. Cropping. Look at all the
shaot done of Marily Monroe - a website somewhere shows both the original
iamge as well as the cropped, final image. SO, I'm certainly not the only
one who work this way.
That's probably the reason why cropping frequently is a subject for
discussion at the PDML ;-)
A second frame in the viewfinde could be quite usefull -  especally if
there's enough MP's to work with.
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There's no excuse for not getting the frame correct in a studio shot. One
certainly has enough time to think about it.
Paul
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 Subject: RE: funny K10D story


  WOW, I must start saving real quick - the fall isn't that far ahead!
  For studiowork, I don't think 6MP is quite enough, because I can't
really
  crop later. I must crop while shooting, in order to get enough
resolution.


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PESO: new arrival

2006-07-17 Thread Ann Sanfedele

My new roomie 

http://users.rcn.com/annsan/ashley1bw.jpg

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Re: Snap du jour: the honey-heavy dew of slumber

2006-07-17 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Bob W wrote:
 
  In a way, all photography is voyeurism.
 
 [...]
 
  Refusing to photograph the homeless and otherwise, would on
  the flip side,
  would be like denying their very existence. Which could be
  considered a form of
  denial.
 
 [...]
 
  But, definitely, looking at pictures of the homeless and down
  and out may be
  the most gut wrenching.
 
  Marnie aka Doe
 
 
 I agree with you, by and large.
 
 I should point out though that we don't know whether the man in the
 photo is homeless or down and out. For all I know he could be the
 fashion editor of Vogue, the president of the Royal Institute of
 British Architects, or an internet libel lawyer trawling for business.
 
 I'd also like to point out that it is not a picture of a down-and-out.
 It's a picture of a person who was asleep on his feet in an
 interesting composition. Whether he is down and out or the fashion
 editor of Vogue makes no difference - I would have taken exactly the
 same photograph whatever his situation. In many ways it would have
 been a more interesting photo if he was the President of the RIBA, and
 dressed appropriately.
 
 The trouble with pictures of down-and-outs is that viewers tend to see
 the down and out, not the person, and not the picture. That's why you
 have to show the face.
 
 Regards,
 Bob
 


me thinks you doth protest too much...
(I know, I haven't got the quite just right)

This hit me particularly hard - and I could never have taken
the photo -

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Re: PESO - Demo

2006-07-17 Thread Shel Belinkoff
What do you see?  How does the photo effect you?  Does it make you feel
anything or want to know more?  

Shel



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 What were you trying to show?

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Re: PESO: new arrival

2006-07-17 Thread Jack Davis
From the look of those eyes, game on!
Cute!

Jack

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Re: funny K10D story

2006-07-17 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
On 17.07.2006, at 10:02 , Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu wrote:

 I've tested the DA 16-45 f/4 (btw are you also dissapointed by it's
 construction? There is a huge play in the focusing ring and the
 barrel, almost as in the FA 28-80 f/3.5-5.6)  with my MZ-6, after AF
 locked, I was able to turn the focus ring, but only in one direction.
That's funny, as I handled three various DA 16-45 and there was very  
little play in extended barrel and there was no play at all in the  
focusing ring which acted very nicely - perhaps not as good as in MF  
lenses, but much better than in FA zooms or for instance Nikon AF-S  
24-85/3.5-4.5. Anyway its build quality is much better than of non- 
star FA zooms. Maybe your test sample was broken??? :-)

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Re: PESO: new arrival

2006-07-17 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Jack Davis wrote:
 
 From the look of those eyes, game on!
 Cute!
 
 Jack

She is a sweetheart, for sure.

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Test from Secondary

2006-07-17 Thread Bruce Dayton
Send test from my secondary account.

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RE: Test from Secondary

2006-07-17 Thread Shel Belinkoff
It appeared on the mail list for me.

Shel



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Re: Test from Secondary

2006-07-17 Thread Jack Davis
Got it.

J

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Re: RAW workflow

2006-07-17 Thread wendy beard
On 7/16/06, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 how does Capture One LE compare with ACR? I don't have PS CS2 (yet?)
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 haven't used ACR, but I have downloaded the trial version of Capture
 One LE and it seems at first glance to be pretty good.

They both have their place. If I'm upsizing, I'll bring the file into
ACR. I know there's a way of batching files for conversion in ACR but
I haven't tried it. I use C1LE for that.
I like the way I can individually tweak the conversion settings in C1
and also crop each image. Then I add each image to the queue and let
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Re: PESO: Green River, Utah

2006-07-17 Thread Joseph Tainter
http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/cat/2646/display/6152995
 
Nice shot Joe, on of my top ten favorite places
looks like early morning - yes?

ann

Thanks, Ann. No, it was taken in the evening. We had been at Dead Horse 
Point, which was clouded over. I told my wife that I'd like to hang 
around there in case the sun broke through the clouds. Then we were 
nearly struck by lightning (story a few days ago). So we gave up on Dear 
Horse Point and drove on to the Green River Overlook. There the sun 
broke through for a few minutes, as I had been hoping it would. And of 
course, I had left my camera back in the car. So I ran back to the 
parking lot, then back to the overlook, and the light was still wonderful.

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Re: PESO - Demo

2006-07-17 Thread Jostein Øksne
Hi Shel,

You wrote:
 What do you see?  How does the photo effect you?  Does it make you feel
 anything or want to know more?

What I see does not engage me.
Maybe it would be more interesting if it had a context.

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Re: PESO: new arrival

2006-07-17 Thread P. J. Alling
How cute.

Ann Sanfedele wrote:

My new roomie 

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Conversions

2006-07-17 Thread brooksdj
Hi gang.

Pondering over this the past few days, well not Sunday, i was more concerned 
about dieing
in the 
heat, than this,vbg

Converting to BW. i seem to have a 80-20% nogood/ good ratio. Just wondering 
were i
should be 
spending my time. In the colour stage adjusting the file or in the converted 
stage.
Getting good contrast 
seems to be my biggest problem. 
IR seems the bigger miss. Getting the false colours to a good BW.

Maybe i';m just not clear on what i should be looking for or to.

Any suggestions.

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Re: Conversions

2006-07-17 Thread pnstenquist
Hi Dave,
IR conversions can be tricky. You have to start with a good exposure. I've 
found that the best candidates have good contrast before conversion. I shoot 
them in RAW and adjust brightness, exposure and contrast in the RAW converter 
to get a nice distinct image with a good histogram. After conversion to tiff, I 
use the channel mixer to convert to BW. I find I generally have to use at least 
100 percent of the red channel, sometimes more. I usually have to reduce the 
constant by 2 percent or so. Sometimes 6 or 7 percent on the blue and green 
channel will improve the highlights a bit. Hope this helps. I'm still working 
this out myself, but the above seems to get me very close to where I want to go.
Paul
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 Hi gang.
 
 Pondering over this the past few days, well not Sunday, i was more concerned 
 about dieing
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 heat, than this,vbg
 
 Converting to BW. i seem to have a 80-20% nogood/ good ratio. Just wondering 
 were i
 should be 
 spending my time. In the colour stage adjusting the file or in the converted 
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 Getting good contrast 
 seems to be my biggest problem. 
 IR seems the bigger miss. Getting the false colours to a good BW.
 
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Re: PESO - Aliens

2006-07-17 Thread Bruce Dayton
You are right - they are valves for water mains, I believe.  The coats
are insulation blankets - around here it doesn't get very cold, but we
can get a day or two that go below freezing.

In some ways, they kind of remind me of Jawas from Star Wars.

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Sunday, July 16, 2006, 12:12:41 AM, you wrote:

DS Ha. Love it.

DS They're valves of some description. But I gotta' ask, why do they have
DS coats? :-)

DS Dave

DS On 7/15/06, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Perhaps a bit lighthearted - didn't see the resemblance until viewing
 on a bigger screen.

 Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, Handheld
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 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3160a.htm

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Re: PESO: Wild Oats

2006-07-17 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Jack,

This one doesn't grab me.  I think it is because of the extreme lack
of detail in the shadow of the barn

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Sunday, July 16, 2006, 7:43:27 AM, you wrote:

JD Marnie's barn (with it's front in shadow) reminded me of this.
JD Mamiya 6 w/50mm f/4.1L.
JD Location: Yuba County, Northern California.

JD Jack

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Re: RAW workflow

2006-07-17 Thread Bruce Dayton
Can't say how they compare, but being a user of Capture One LE, I can
give you my rough take.  The first time I tried Capture One, I wasn't
that excited about it.  It seemed fine, but nothing out of the
ordinary.  What I had done, was taken just a couple of images and
played around with it.  It wasn't until later that I decided to give
it one more go, that I worked on an entire family portrait session
(about 70 frames) that I discovered where the real strength of it was.
It is really designed as a batch system with fine controls.
Converting one at a time, is no better than other tools.  But when you
load up a whole batch, then it starts to shine.  Basically, by batch,
I mean one photo session - so if you shoot portraits or weddings or
events where you will have lots of pictures with pretty much the same
lighting, you can pick the first one and get it adjusted, then select
others with the same basic settings and apply all your changes to
them.  Then you can very quickly, click on each picture and see the
adjustments on it and possibly override slightly.  When you are ready,
just have it convert them all and you are about done.

When I started using it, Adobe didn't have their workflow down very
well - much more disjointed and RSE and Bibble didn't exist.  I think
all the other players have put forth much better workflow than they
did in the past, so the differences may be much smaller than they were
when I started doing RAW in earnest.  Since I do lots of event stuff
where Capture One is such a natural, as I have looked at the others,
they haven't had anything that made me want to change.

I can say that if I were shooting in a more casual way (smaller groups
of similar shots), that one of the other products might have a better
workflow for that.  I seem to recall that RSE had some kind of quick
grading system for you to quickly sort the best from the medium to bad
and then work within those sortings.


Anyway, I hope this helps you along.

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Sunday, July 16, 2006, 3:04:56 AM, you wrote:

BW Hi,

BW how does Capture One LE compare with ACR? I don't have PS CS2 (yet?)
BW as I'm still looking at the various options that are available. So I
BW haven't used ACR, but I have downloaded the trial version of Capture
BW One LE and it seems at first glance to be pretty good.

BW One thing I don't much like about it is that it only reads RAW, not
BW TIFF as far as I can tell. This is a disadvantage for me because I
BW have a lot of film to scan, which I save in Vuescan's raw TIFF format,
BW and then use the same workflow for both camera and scanned inputs - I
BW don't want to be switching tools and doing significantly different
BW things just because the pictures come from a different source. 

BW So, does ACR read and operate on TIFFs as well as RAW?

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Re: PESO - Demo

2006-07-17 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Define context in this case.

Shel



 [Original Message]
 From: Jostein Øksne 

 You wrote:
  What do you see?  How does the photo effect you?  
  Does it make you feel anything or want to know more?

 What I see does not engage me.
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RE: Conversions

2006-07-17 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hello, Dave ...

Perhaps you might start by telling us what conversion processes you've been
using.  There are numerous methods and techniques available.

Also (and please take this in the spirit it's intended) your BW work
generally is pretty poor.  I don't tink you really know what good BW is
supposed to look like.  There are numerous styles that have been used over
the years, ytet your work has always seemed lacking in shadow detail,
contrast, and tonality.  Can you get to some galleries or museums and spend
some time looking at good, exhibition quality,  BW silver prints.  Maybe
see a style that's similar to what you want yopur prints to look like, and
then work towards that objective.

In addition, it may be helpful to know what editing program you're using. 
I seem to reacll that you're using more than one, and maybe it would help
if you chose one and stayed with it, learning it well and mastering the
features you need to get the results you want.

There's a program that I've used that helps with BW conversions that's
really good - best I've found on the 'net.  Go to
http://www.theimagingfactory.com/ and download Convert to BW Pro and see
how you like it.

TTFN, TTYL, YMMV, 

Shel



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 Converting to BW. i seem to have a 80-20% nogood/ good ratio. 
 Just wondering were i should be spending my time. In the colour 
 stage adjusting the file or in the converted stage. Getting good contrast 
 seems to be my biggest problem. 
 IR seems the bigger miss. Getting the false colours to a good BW.

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Re: RAW workflow

2006-07-17 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jul 17, 2006, at 9:26 AM, wendy beard wrote:

  I know there's a way of batching files for conversion in ACR but
 I haven't tried it. I use C1LE for that.
 I like the way I can individually tweak the conversion settings in C1
 and also crop each image. Then I add each image to the queue and let
 the tool process the whole batch.

ACR used with Photoshop CS2 and Bridge allow you to do essentially  
the exact same thing.

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Re: PESO: Wild Oats

2006-07-17 Thread Jack Davis
I understand. I relate to the light areas of reflection that place the
surface of the barn and need nothing else. The contrast it provides to
'present' the oat grass, is important to the image.
For me, the heavy imposing shape of the barn adds power/drama.
Not trying to change your mind, simply telling you what's in mine.
Thanks very much for comments.

Jack

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 Hello Jack,
 
 This one doesn't grab me.  I think it is because of the extreme lack
 of detail in the shadow of the barn
 
 -- 
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 Sunday, July 16, 2006, 7:43:27 AM, you wrote:
 
 JD Marnie's barn (with it's front in shadow) reminded me of this.
 JD Mamiya 6 w/50mm f/4.1L.
 JD Location: Yuba County, Northern California.
 
 JD Jack
 
 JD http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=132
 
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Re: Conversions

2006-07-17 Thread Mark Roberts
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Converting to BW. i seem to have a 80-20% nogood/ good ratio. Just wondering 
were i
should be 
spending my time. In the colour stage adjusting the file or in the converted 
stage.
Getting good contrast 
seems to be my biggest problem. 
IR seems the bigger miss. Getting the false colours to a good BW.

Maybe i';m just not clear on what i should be looking for or to.

Any suggestions.

First off, try this free Photoshop plug-in:
http://www.cybia.co.uk/bwplus.htm

By trying various different color filters, you can often get pretty
close to the tonality you want in your final image. Then working with
levels and curves in Photoshop becomes easier.
 
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RE:PESO: new arrival

2006-07-17 Thread Butch Black
Cute. But I think you're going to have a hard time getting her to pay half 
the rent and do half the chores :)

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Re: DS2 extreme heat torture test

2006-07-17 Thread Aaron Reynolds

On Jul 17, 2006, at 8:25 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Mind you with a black lens and black body,
 it got
 pretty hot to hold sometimes.

I heard the Nikon guys curse a few times.  One guy was using a lens 
that not only was black but was shiny -- I thought that must've been a 
pain to hold in the sun.

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RE: PESO: Peak Peek

2006-07-17 Thread Jens Bladt
Beautiful, Jack.
Amazing light and acolours. I'd crop away the left part - toplce the peak
godlen section wize, though.
Subject in the middle is rarely the best.
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http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=119
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Very nice. I do believe that is magic hour. :-)

Okay, I'll take it, you can whip me up a print.

Marnie aka Doe ;-)

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Test take two

2006-07-17 Thread Bruce Dayton
From Primary resubbed.

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Re: Conversions

2006-07-17 Thread Shel Belinkoff
That only works on 8-bit images.  Not necessarily the best route to go.

Shel



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 First off, try this free Photoshop plug-in:
 http://www.cybia.co.uk/bwplus.htm



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PESO - Great Egret

2006-07-17 Thread Bruce Dayton
At least I believe that is what it is.  Got several pretty good shots
on my walk this morning.  So another couple may be coming through.

Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X 400/5.6, handheld
ISO 200, 1/1000 sec @ f/8.0

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3179a.htm

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Re: DS2 extreme heat torture test

2006-07-17 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Jul 17, 2006, at 10:47 AM, Aaron Reynolds wrote:

 Mind you with a black lens and black body,
 it got pretty hot to hold sometimes.

 I heard the Nikon guys curse a few times.  One guy was using a lens
 that not only was black but was shiny -- I thought that must've been a
 pain to hold in the sun.

I can imagine.

I recall shooting a BALLS rocketry meet on the Black Rock Playa in  
Nevada in 1998 when temperatures in the sun hit 120 degrees F. My  
Nikon FM was too hot to hold without a thin pair of cotton gloves on  
after about 5 minutes ... I kept it in a cooler most of the time so  
as not to cook the film.

Godfrey

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RE: PESO: Peak Peek

2006-07-17 Thread Jens Bladt
Like this:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/191879967/


I'll take it awasy soon - hopt yiu don't mind ...

Regards
jens
Beautiful, Jack.
Amazing light and acolours. I'd crop away the left part - toplce the peak
godlen section wize, though.
Subject in the middle is rarely the best.
Regards
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http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=119
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Okay, I'll take it, you can whip me up a print.

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Re: PESO - Great Egret

2006-07-17 Thread pnstenquist
Well done. Nice detail in the highlights, good bokeh. Like it.
Paul
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 At least I believe that is what it is.  Got several pretty good shots
 on my walk this morning.  So another couple may be coming through.
 
 Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X 400/5.6, handheld
 ISO 200, 1/1000 sec @ f/8.0
 
 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3179a.htm
 
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Sad but true...

2006-07-17 Thread Mark Roberts
I put my MZ-S on eBay last night.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Pentax-MZ-S-and-battery-grip-Pentaxs-Finest-LN_W0QQitemZ220008061420QQihZ012QQcategoryZ15240QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Woulodn't be surprised if it doesn't sell, though...
(Don't know whether I'll be happy or sad if it doesn't)
 
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Re: PESO - Great Egret

2006-07-17 Thread Ryan Brooks
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well done. Nice detail in the highlights, good bokeh. Like it.
 Paul
   
What's up with the area to the left of the bird?   Distracting... 
something cloned out?
  -- Original message --
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 At least I believe that is what it is.  Got several pretty good shots
 on my walk this morning.  So another couple may be coming through.

 Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X 400/5.6, handheld
 ISO 200, 1/1000 sec @ f/8.0

 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3179a.htm

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Re: PESO - Great Egret

2006-07-17 Thread Mark Roberts
Bruce Dayton wrote:

At least I believe that is what it is.  Got several pretty good shots
on my walk this morning.  So another couple may be coming through.

Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X 400/5.6, handheld
ISO 200, 1/1000 sec @ f/8.0

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3179a.htm

I've been waiting a long, long time to see Bruce Dayton turn out a bad
photo.
I guess I'm going to have to keep waiting. :)

 
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RE: PESO - Great Egret

2006-07-17 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Bingo!  Looks pretty good, Bruce.  You're turning into as good a bird
photog as you are with flowers.  I'll need to drive up and get some lessons
from you ;-))

Shel



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 At least I believe that is what it is.  Got several pretty good shots
 on my walk this morning.  So another couple may be coming through.

 Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X 400/5.6, handheld
 ISO 200, 1/1000 sec @ f/8.0

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Re: PESO - Demo

2006-07-17 Thread Jostein Øksne
 Define context in this case.

Lol... Why?

Jostein


  [Original Message]
  From: Jostein Øksne

  You wrote:
   What do you see?  How does the photo effect you?
   Does it make you feel anything or want to know more?
 
  What I see does not engage me.
  Maybe it would be more interesting if it had a context.





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Re: PESO - Great Egret

2006-07-17 Thread Ryan Brooks
Ryan Brooks wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Well done. Nice detail in the highlights, good bokeh. Like it.
 Paul
   
 
 What's up with the area to the left of the bird?   Distracting... 
 something cloned out?
   
 right that is.

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Re: PESO - Great Egret

2006-07-17 Thread Bruce Dayton
I think the whole trick is that morning walk thing grin.

Come on up some time - maybe we can start to think about another
NorCal gathering.  It has been awhile.

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Monday, July 17, 2006, 11:19:34 AM, you wrote:

SB Bingo!  Looks pretty good, Bruce.  You're turning into as good a bird
SB photog as you are with flowers.  I'll need to drive up and get some lessons
SB from you ;-))

SB Shel



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 At least I believe that is what it is.  Got several pretty good shots
 on my walk this morning.  So another couple may be coming through.

 Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X 400/5.6, handheld
 ISO 200, 1/1000 sec @ f/8.0

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RE: PESO: Peak Peek

2006-07-17 Thread Jack Davis
I do like your crop. If a 'serious' use should come up, it's one I
would consider. This scene is a souvenir of my June photo trip and my
current temporary wallpaper. Will probably never be used for anything
else. 
As wallpaper, the stream of left side icons now have a place to be
without getting involved with Grand Teton Peak.

Thanks for your ideas.

Jack

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 Like this:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/191879967/
 
 
 I'll take it awasy soon - hopt yiu don't mind ...
 
 Regards
 jens
 Beautiful, Jack.
 Amazing light and acolours. I'd crop away the left part - toplce the
 peak
 godlen section wize, though.
 Subject in the middle is rarely the best.
 Regards
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 http://www.jensbladt.dk
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 Skype: jensbladt248
 
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RE: PESO - Great Egret

2006-07-17 Thread Tom C
Splendid! Very nice



Tom C.






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Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 10:56:28 -0700

At least I believe that is what it is.  Got several pretty good shots
on my walk this morning.  So another couple may be coming through.

Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X 400/5.6, handheld
ISO 200, 1/1000 sec @ f/8.0

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3179a.htm

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Re: PESO - Great Egret

2006-07-17 Thread Jostein Øksne
Ahh
Had a go at the same species in Assateague Nat'l park in 2004. Makes
me appreciate your shot all the more.

Great portrait.

I suppose some would find the background distracting, but I think it's
ok. Makes it more real life to me.

Jostein

On 7/17/06, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 At least I believe that is what it is.  Got several pretty good shots
 on my walk this morning.  So another couple may be coming through.

 Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X 400/5.6, handheld
 ISO 200, 1/1000 sec @ f/8.0

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Re: PESO - Great Egret

2006-07-17 Thread Christian
Bruce Dayton wrote:
 At least I believe that is what it is.  Got several pretty good shots
 on my walk this morning.  So another couple may be coming through.
 
 Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X 400/5.6, handheld
 ISO 200, 1/1000 sec @ f/8.0
 
 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3179a.htm
 
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Re: Sad but true...

2006-07-17 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
On 17.07.06, at 19:59 , Mark Roberts wrote:

 I put my MZ-S on eBay last night.
 http://cgi.ebay.com/Pentax-MZ-S-and-battery-grip-Pentaxs-Finest- 
 LN_W0QQitemZ220008061420QQihZ012QQcategoryZ15240QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

 Woulodn't be surprised if it doesn't sell, though...
 (Don't know whether I'll be happy or sad if it doesn't)
Collecting money for K10D? ;-) I would do the same except that I gave  
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Re: DS2 extreme heat torture test

2006-07-17 Thread Adam Maas
Aaron Reynolds wrote:
 On Jul 17, 2006, at 8:25 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
Mind you with a black lens and black body,
it got
pretty hot to hold sometimes.
 
 
 I heard the Nikon guys curse a few times.  One guy was using a lens 
 that not only was black but was shiny -- I thought that must've been a 
 pain to hold in the sun.
 
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Unfortunately Nikon makes it quite difficult to buy the white versions 
of their lenses (which do exist for all the Pro Telephotos).

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Re: Sad but true...

2006-07-17 Thread Jack Davis
I recently ask KEH for a quote on both a NN MZ-S w/BG10 grip and an EX+
LX w/FA-1 finder.
They offered (pending review) $410 for the MZ-S combination and $369
for the LX. If I were to sell them the LX, (giving it serious thought)I
will have sold off some $3900 worth of equipment in the last six
months.
Have no problem keeping the marvelous MZ-S.

Jack

PS: BH offered $440 for both outfits. They, obviously, can't be
bothered.

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 Woulodn't be surprised if it doesn't sell, though...
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Re: Reply from Pentax on FA28-70/4 repair.

2006-07-17 Thread P. J. Alling
Don,
I did a little poking around, the last MSRP for this lens was $345.00, 
which gave it a street price between $150.00 and $225.00 in my 
experience.  I've seen them go on e-bay for as much as $125.00,  not 
recently, but the element separation problem has been getting a fair 
amount of word of mouth.  About the lack of sharpness on digital I have 
no real clue, except that one of the symptoms, (in my copy of the lens 
at least), that the separation had begun, was the the photos made with 
it weren't as sharp as previously.   It is kind of what you would expect 
from a developing cataract, which is what my lens looks like it has now.

-Peter

Don Sanderson wrote:

Hi Peter, the last new prices I remember were in the $200-$225
range.
I wouldn't mind the price except all of the samples I've tried on
the ist-D gave very mediocre results.
Being a glutton for punishment I've bought seven of these little
devils looking for a good one. ;-)
Even the perfect looking ones gave pretty disappointing results on
the digi.
It's hard to get more than $75-90 for them so I don't know if it's
worth the investment.
I was rather hoping Pentax would admit to their construction flaw
and offer a bit better deal.
No such luck though.
This was one of the original Japanese made ones so I might go
ahead anyway.
Rather irks me though that THK CLA'd my ATX 80-200/2.8 for less
that amount.

Don


  

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If they're going to rebuild the whole lens it's more than worth it.  The 
lens had a list price of about $400. if I remember correctly.  The 
repair cost they're quoting you is very reasonable.  I expected it to 
cost more than $100.00 it looks like I'll be calling Pentax next week.

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As most of you will recall I've been trying to get an answer from
Pentax as to whether they can fix the fogged/cracked element in
the FA 28-70 lens.
Sent it to Colorado last week, got a snail-mail reply today.

Well, the good news is that they _can_ fix it.
Sounds like they'll pretty much rebuild the whole thing.
The bad news is that it will run $87.00. ;-(
Not sure it's really worth it. I'll have to decide.

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Catherine Leroy has died

2006-07-17 Thread Bob W
This is actually quite old news, but I only saw her obituary today,
and I haven't seen it mentioned on the PDML. She was a French
photographer who made a name for herself in the Vietnam War, and in
other wars later. One of her documentaries later led to the making of
the feature film Born on the Fourth of July.

http://www.pieceuniquegallery.com/
 
http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-5940855,00.html
 
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RE: PESO: Wild Oats

2006-07-17 Thread Bob W
I like that shot, and don't mind the lack of detail. It reminds me of
a dust-bowl, FSA type of photo.

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 -Original Message-
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 Sent: 17 July 2006 18:31
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 Subject: Re: PESO: Wild Oats
 
 I understand. I relate to the light areas of reflection that place
the
 surface of the barn and need nothing else. The contrast it provides
to
 'present' the oat grass, is important to the image.
 For me, the heavy imposing shape of the barn adds power/drama.
 Not trying to change your mind, simply telling you what's in mine.
 Thanks very much for comments.
 
 Jack
 
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  This one doesn't grab me.  I think it is because of the extreme
lack
  of detail in the shadow of the barn
  
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  Sunday, July 16, 2006, 7:43:27 AM, you wrote:
  
  JD Marnie's barn (with it's front in shadow) reminded me of this.
  JD Mamiya 6 w/50mm f/4.1L.
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Re: Test take two

2006-07-17 Thread Scott Loveless
Came through at 1:55pm EDT.

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Re: Sad but true...

2006-07-17 Thread Larry Levy
Mark,

Sorry it came to this.

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Re: PESO - Demo

2006-07-17 Thread Jack Davis
I don't think that's my job.

Jack

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 What do you see?  How does the photo effect you?  Does it make you
 feel
 anything or want to know more?  
 
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  What were you trying to show?
 
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Re: PESO - Great Egret

2006-07-17 Thread P. J. Alling
You've managed to not blow out the highlights on an entirely white bird 
without using artificial lighting aids.  In addition using a 400mm lens 
hand held , this image shows no camera movement what so ever and has 
nearly perfect focus and DOF.  I hate you.

Bruce Dayton wrote:

At least I believe that is what it is.  Got several pretty good shots
on my walk this morning.  So another couple may be coming through.

Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X 400/5.6, handheld
ISO 200, 1/1000 sec @ f/8.0

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RE: PESO: Wild Oats

2006-07-17 Thread Jack Davis
I'm complimented!  

Thanks, Bob

Jack

--- Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I like that shot, and don't mind the lack of detail. It reminds me of
 a dust-bowl, FSA type of photo.
 
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  -Original Message-
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  Subject: Re: PESO: Wild Oats
  
  I understand. I relate to the light areas of reflection that place
 the
  surface of the barn and need nothing else. The contrast it provides
 to
  'present' the oat grass, is important to the image.
  For me, the heavy imposing shape of the barn adds power/drama.
  Not trying to change your mind, simply telling you what's in mine.
  Thanks very much for comments.
  
  Jack
  
  --- Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Hello Jack,
   
   This one doesn't grab me.  I think it is because of the extreme
 lack
   of detail in the shadow of the barn
   
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   Sunday, July 16, 2006, 7:43:27 AM, you wrote:
   
   JD Marnie's barn (with it's front in shadow) reminded me of
 this.
   JD Mamiya 6 w/50mm f/4.1L.
   JD Location: Yuba County, Northern California.
   
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RE: PESO - Demo

2006-07-17 Thread Bob W
I would prefer it if the man was in focus. I think it would give
greater continuity from the placard to the man, especially since the
tones are similar. 

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Re: Sad but true...

2006-07-17 Thread Mark Roberts
Jack Davis wrote:

I recently ask KEH for a quote on both a NN MZ-S w/BG10 grip and an EX+
LX w/FA-1 finder.
They offered (pending review) $410 for the MZ-S combination

Wow. That's actually encouraging. Given how much KEH marks up their
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Re: PESO - Aliens

2006-07-17 Thread frank theriault
On 7/14/06, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Perhaps a bit lighthearted - didn't see the resemblance until viewing
 on a bigger screen.

 Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, Handheld
 ISO 200, 1/1000 sec @ f/6.7

 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3160a.htm


Looks like something out of an old science fiction B movie from the
50's or something. LOL

Good one!!

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Found some unoficcial K100D test shots

2006-07-17 Thread Mark Roberts
...while scanning the DP Review site:
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Re: Sad but true...

2006-07-17 Thread Mark Roberts
Mark Roberts wrote:

Jack Davis wrote:

I recently ask KEH for a quote on both a NN MZ-S w/BG10 grip and an EX+
LX w/FA-1 finder.
They offered (pending review) $410 for the MZ-S combination

Wow. That's actually encouraging. Given how much KEH marks up their
cameras, they must expect to get a pretty good price for it if they're
offering $410.

Oh, and I set the reserve price on my MZ-S/BG-10 combo at $500.00,
which is certainly well below what KEH must think they can get for it.
 
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Re: Sad but true...

2006-07-17 Thread Jack Davis
That's, of course, with the BG10. IIMA, how much are you planning to
accept on eBay?

Jack



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 EX+
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Re: PESO - Great Egret

2006-07-17 Thread Kenneth Waller
Nice capture Bruce.
Might be better with slightly less depth of field for the background. Still 
a keeper.

Kenneth Waller

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Subject: PESO - Great Egret


 At least I believe that is what it is.  Got several pretty good shots
 on my walk this morning.  So another couple may be coming through.

 Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X 400/5.6, handheld
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Re: PESO - Demo

2006-07-17 Thread frank theriault
On 7/17/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://home.earthlink.net/~morepix/demo.html

See no evil, speak no evil.  You're missing the third element of the
trilogy.  g

It's interesting, Shel.  I'm not sure whether the man on the left is a
figure of authority, refusing to acknowledge the woman who's being
gagged, or if he's one of the oppressed.

Either way, it's a photo that makes me think, so that can't be a bad thing.

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Re: PESO - Great Egret

2006-07-17 Thread frank theriault
On 7/17/06, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You've managed to not blow out the highlights on an entirely white bird
 without using artificial lighting aids.  In addition using a 400mm lens
 hand held , this image shows no camera movement what so ever and has
 nearly perfect focus and DOF.  I hate you.

Peter,

Clearly you ought to have no egrets.

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Re: PESO - Great Egret

2006-07-17 Thread pnstenquist
I think we did that one already.

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  You've managed to not blow out the highlights on an entirely white bird
  without using artificial lighting aids.  In addition using a 400mm lens
  hand held , this image shows no camera movement what so ever and has
  nearly perfect focus and DOF.  I hate you.
 
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 Clearly you ought to have no egrets.
 
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Re: PESO - Great Egret

2006-07-17 Thread Kenneth Waller
I think we did that one already

Yeah, I thought we heard the swan song on that one.

Kenneth Waller

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I think we did that one already.

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  You've managed to not blow out the highlights on an entirely white bird
  without using artificial lighting aids.  In addition using a 400mm lens
  hand held , this image shows no camera movement what so ever and has
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Re: Found some unoficcial K100D test shots

2006-07-17 Thread Kenneth Waller
Impressive!

Looks like this camera will give steady Stenquist a run for the money.

Kenneth Waller 

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Re: PESO - Great Egret

2006-07-17 Thread Kenneth Waller
 Clearly you ought to have no egrets.
 
 cheers,
 frank

No. 
I'd say he has great egrets.

Kenneth Waller

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 On 7/17/06, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You've managed to not blow out the highlights on an entirely white bird
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Re: PESO - Great Egret

2006-07-17 Thread frank theriault
On 7/17/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I think we did that one already.

That was another thread.  I'm not above robin jokes from one thread to
use in another.

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PESO - Hasty Retreat

2006-07-17 Thread Bruce Dayton
This was taken as the egrets flew off.  I had to crop it a fair bit as
I didn't have enough reach with the 400mm.

Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X SD 400/5.6, handheld, manual focus
ISO 200, 1/1500 sec @ f/8.0

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3187a.htm

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Re: PESO - Hasty Retreat

2006-07-17 Thread pnstenquist
Still very nice. The shadow/highlight relationship is perfect.
Paul
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 This was taken as the egrets flew off.  I had to crop it a fair bit as
 I didn't have enough reach with the 400mm.
 
 Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X SD 400/5.6, handheld, manual focus
 ISO 200, 1/1500 sec @ f/8.0
 
 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3187a.htm
 
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Re: Found some unoficcial K100D test shots

2006-07-17 Thread pnstenquist
I can't wait to shoot birds with a handheld 800 mm.
Paul
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 Impressive!
 
 Looks like this camera will give steady Stenquist a run for the money.
 
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Re: PESO - Great Egret

2006-07-17 Thread P. J. Alling
To death...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I think we did that one already.

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On 7/17/06, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


You've managed to not blow out the highlights on an entirely white bird
without using artificial lighting aids.  In addition using a 400mm lens
hand held , this image shows no camera movement what so ever and has
nearly perfect focus and DOF.  I hate you.
  

Peter,

Clearly you ought to have no egrets.

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Re: PESO - Hasty Retreat

2006-07-17 Thread frank theriault
On 7/17/06, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This was taken as the egrets flew off.  I had to crop it a fair bit as
 I didn't have enough reach with the 400mm.

 Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X SD 400/5.6, handheld, manual focus
 ISO 200, 1/1500 sec @ f/8.0

 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3187a.htm


Classic!  The exposure is wonderful.  I love the detail in the feathers.

cheers,
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RE: Sad but true...

2006-07-17 Thread Jens Bladt
Been there, done that, Mark.
I sold mine (along with some other stuff) in order to finance my *ist D. I
managed to buy one without actually spending money.
But I did regret it. So, I bought another MZ-S from a fellow list member -
Joe Wilensky. I enjoy using it from time to time - for slides, mostly.
It has no write speed issues and low battery consumption  - and it has an
aperture simulator, so I can use K and M lenses in Av mode. And it's Full
Frame ;-)
Anyway - good luck!

Regards

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Emne: Sad but true...


I put my MZ-S on eBay last night.
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Woulodn't be surprised if it doesn't sell, though...
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Re: PESO - Hasty Retreat

2006-07-17 Thread Kenneth Waller
Another great one Bruce, perfect I'd say.

Kenneth Waller

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Subject: PESO - Hasty Retreat


 This was taken as the egrets flew off.  I had to crop it a fair bit as
 I didn't have enough reach with the 400mm.
 
 Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X SD 400/5.6, handheld, manual focus
 ISO 200, 1/1500 sec @ f/8.0
 
 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3187a.htm
 
 Comments welcome.
 
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Re: PESO - Great Egret

2006-07-17 Thread Kenneth Waller
I'm not above robin jokes from one thread to
 use in another.

You better watch out Knarf, there are a lot of eagle eyed pdml'ers who are 
watching this like a hawk.

Kenneth Waller

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From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: PESO - Great Egret


 On 7/17/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I think we did that one already.

 That was another thread.  I'm not above robin jokes from one thread to
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Re: Found some unoficcial K100D test shots

2006-07-17 Thread Kenneth Waller
I can't wait to shoot birds with a handheld 800 mm.
 Paul

If its a single lens (w/o extender etc) you better start a weight lifting 
program today.

Kenneth Waller
(Who can hand hold his 600mm but not to take an image with!)

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I can't wait to shoot birds with a handheld 800 mm.
 Paul
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 Impressive!

 Looks like this camera will give steady Stenquist a run for the money.

 Kenneth Waller

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Re: Found some unoficcial K100D test shots

2006-07-17 Thread frank theriault
On 7/17/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I can't wait to shoot birds with a handheld 800 mm.

Hey, Steady,

Don't you do that now?

LOL

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Re: PESO - Great Egret

2006-07-17 Thread frank theriault
On 7/17/06, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You better watch out Knarf, there are a lot of eagle eyed pdml'ers who are
 watching this like a hawk.

I'm not chicken of the likes of them.

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Re: PESO - Great Egret

2006-07-17 Thread P. J. Alling
Watch it or we'll set the eagle department on you.

frank theriault wrote:

On 7/17/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

I think we did that one already.



That was another thread.  I'm not above robin jokes from one thread to
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Re: PESO - Great Egret

2006-07-17 Thread Jack Davis
I absolutely agree. Very nice as is, but an increase in DOF would help
soften the intersecting tree trunk.

Jack

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 Nice capture Bruce.
 Might be better with slightly less depth of field for the background.
 Still 
 a keeper.
 
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 Subject: PESO - Great Egret
 
 
  At least I believe that is what it is.  Got several pretty good
 shots
  on my walk this morning.  So another couple may be coming through.
 
  Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X 400/5.6, handheld
  ISO 200, 1/1000 sec @ f/8.0
 
  http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3179a.htm
 
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Re: PESO - Hasty Retreat

2006-07-17 Thread Jack Davis
Crop is ideal and focus appears more than acceptable. 
Love the colors.

Jack 

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 This was taken as the egrets flew off.  I had to crop it a fair bit
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 I didn't have enough reach with the 400mm.
 
 Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X SD 400/5.6, handheld, manual focus
 ISO 200, 1/1500 sec @ f/8.0
 
 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3187a.htm
 
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Re: PESO - Great Egret

2006-07-17 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 7/17/2006 11:02:48 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
At least I believe that is what it is.  Got several pretty good shots
on my walk this morning.  So another couple may be coming through.

Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X 400/5.6, handheld
ISO 200, 1/1000 sec @ f/8.0

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3179a.htm

Comments welcome

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==
Lovely, Bruce, lovely -- from composition to OOF. There does seem to be a 
tiny speck right above his hump you might want to take out. Not sure what it 
is, 
but it may have been dirt or something.

Really, really nice shot.

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Re: Found some unoficcial K100D test shots

2006-07-17 Thread Aaron Reynolds
Frank, imagine the amount of shake you have now, but with way more depth of 
field.

-Aaron

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On 7/17/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I can't wait to shoot birds with a handheld 800 mm.

Hey, Steady,

Don't you do that now?

LOL

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