RE: DS2 extreme heat torture test
Brave man! Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Aaron Reynolds Sendt: 16. juli 2006 05:37 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: DS2 extreme heat torture test Anyone who wants to know how the DS2 fares in extreme heat and humidity can ask me tomorrow night -- I'm covering the Jays - Mariners game Sunday afternoon. It starts at 1:00 on a day that is forecast to break all heat records for this part of the world at this time of year, and I will be using the DS2 in direct sunlight for about three hours. Yes, I am going to wear sunscreen. -Aaron -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.1/389 - Release Date: 07/14/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.1/389 - Release Date: 07/14/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: funny K10D story
WOW, I must start saving real quick - the fall isn't that far ahead! For studiowork, I don't think 6MP is quite enough, because I can't really crop later. I must crop while shooting, in order to get enough resolution. 10 MP would be just about what I want, resolution wise :-) Then I might jsut as well sell my 6x6 Pentacon outfit. Would it look anything like this: http://www.digitalcamera.jp/html/HotNews/image/2006-05/20/GX2-1.jpg Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Aaron Reynolds Sendt: 16. juli 2006 14:20 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: funny K10D story On Jul 16, 2006, at 12:42 AM, Jens Bladt wrote: But that's not a 10MP body, is it? Hi Jens -- the K10D (not the K110D) is a 10MP body. It is a higher-end machine than the current offerings. You'd probably want it if you played with it. It'll be out in the fall. The clutch I played with was on the new 40mm limited pancake. It also appears on the new primes. Someone who's played with the new zooms will have to tell you whether or not it appears on those as well. The clutch works on any body, though the lenses have no aperture ring so they are not fully compatible with older bodies. -Aaron3w -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.1/389 - Release Date: 07/14/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.1/389 - Release Date: 07/14/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PESO don't eat like a pig!
This is an instance when I would really like to have seen those birds on a twig! -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: 17 July 2006 03:23 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: PESO don't eat like a pig! Not your typical catchlight and twig bird shot. I really like it despite some technical flaws. Nicely timed! Shel [Original Message] From: Igor Roshchin http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/CentralCoastCA/IMGP3490sm.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: follow up on DS speed test
On 16/7/06, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed: Hmmm ... I may have been a little hasty. Mark! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Wild Oats
On 16/7/06, Jack Davis, discombobulated, unleashed: http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=132 Very graphic image. The only thing I would say is that the sky needs 'dusting' ;-) I rather like it. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Some plastic (definitely) not from Pentax
Great shot. A Holga no doubt. Thanks. Right you are. I just had to get one of those, after I came across some Holga enthusiasts' web pages last year. These really put a smile on my face, in fact I'm pretty much smiling still ;-) - Toralf -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: funny K10D story
On 7/16/06, Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The clutch I played with was on the new 40mm limited pancake. It also appears on the new primes. Someone who's played with the new zooms will have to tell you whether or not it appears on those as well. The clutch works on any body, though the lenses have no aperture ring so they are not fully compatible with older bodies. -Aaron3w I've tested the DA 16-45 f/4 (btw are you also dissapointed by it's construction? There is a huge play in the focusing ring and the barrel, almost as in the FA 28-80 f/3.5-5.6) with my MZ-6, after AF locked, I was able to turn the focus ring, but only in one direction. -- Best regards, Alex Sarbu -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO don't eat like a pig!
... 'cause you are a bird! (who cares that you can't fly?!) http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/CentralCoastCA/IMGP3490sm.jpg Like someone else said: Definitely not your average bird shot. I rather like it. - Toralf -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Harvest Shower per Marnie
On 7/17/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/16/2006 9:46:25 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think bales look too modern. You should turn them into sheaves. And where are the peasants? It would be the work of a few seconds to cut 'n' paste these two in there: http://www.barbizon-france.com/english/Pages/Barbizon/peintur/jfmill/a ng2.html -- Cheers, Bob = Now you're just being silly. What it needs is cows. Marnie aka Doe ;-) Sheep would be a better option. Dave ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Wild Oats
Thanks. Cotty! You're right, I'm a lousy housekeeper. Especially when it comes to these quick and casual uploads. Jack --- Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 16/7/06, Jack Davis, discombobulated, unleashed: http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=132 Very graphic image. The only thing I would say is that the sky needs 'dusting' ;-) I rather like it. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: DS2 extreme heat torture test
Good to hear Aaron. My D2H held up at the horse show today aswell. Mind you with a black lens and black body, it got pretty hot to hold sometimes. I really gotta find horse shows that have seats and shade trees from now on. gGood news is the chest pains were minimal.LOL I hope you told them its supposed to exit like that. Pentax's way of seeing if we're paying attention.:-) Dave [Original Message] From: Aaron Reynolds Camera performed normally in the heat with one exception -- while using it in portrait orientation, the card door got very, very hot. I popped it open to change cards and the card flew straight up into the air like it had been fired out of a cannon! I caught it on the way down. Of course, everyone else in the camera bay saw it because it was in between innings. Apparently I looked really nonchalant about catching it, because one of the other guys asked me Is it supposed to do that? The images were fine on the card. Dunno why it did that. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: funny K10D story
- Original Message - From: Jens Bladt Subject: RE: funny K10D story WOW, I must start saving real quick - the fall isn't that far ahead! For studiowork, I don't think 6MP is quite enough, because I can't really crop later. I must crop while shooting, in order to get enough resolution. Not cropping later is related to getting it right in camera, and doing less post processing. We discussed this with you last week with your exposure problems. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: funny K10D story
There's no excuse for not getting the frame correct in a studio shot. One certainly has enough time to think about it. Paul -- Original message -- From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Jens Bladt Subject: RE: funny K10D story WOW, I must start saving real quick - the fall isn't that far ahead! For studiowork, I don't think 6MP is quite enough, because I can't really crop later. I must crop while shooting, in order to get enough resolution. Not cropping later is related to getting it right in camera, and doing less post processing. We discussed this with you last week with your exposure problems. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO - Demo
http://home.earthlink.net/~morepix/demo.html Pentax MX, Tri-X @ 250 in ID-11 Comments, crits, rotten tomatoes welcome Shel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Demo
What were you trying to show? Jack --- Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://home.earthlink.net/~morepix/demo.html Pentax MX, Tri-X @ 250 in ID-11 Comments, crits, rotten tomatoes welcome Shel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: funny K10D story
Well, there is IMO. I can't always know exactly how I want to use the image. I often see posibilities in an image AFTER it's has been taken. A smile my turn out differently, the angle of the eyes. A shoulder that is to domitating, which I did't notice because I was concentratiog on the eyes or the right smile - must be cropped away. I often decide what the main attraction is later, then I crop it accordingly to emphasize this certain quality. Photographers have always done this. Cropping. Look at all the shaot done of Marily Monroe - a website somewhere shows both the original iamge as well as the cropped, final image. SO, I'm certainly not the only one who work this way. That's probably the reason why cropping frequently is a subject for discussion at the PDML ;-) A second frame in the viewfinde could be quite usefull - especally if there's enough MP's to work with. Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 17. juli 2006 15:48 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: funny K10D story There's no excuse for not getting the frame correct in a studio shot. One certainly has enough time to think about it. Paul -- Original message -- From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Jens Bladt Subject: RE: funny K10D story WOW, I must start saving real quick - the fall isn't that far ahead! For studiowork, I don't think 6MP is quite enough, because I can't really crop later. I must crop while shooting, in order to get enough resolution. Not cropping later is related to getting it right in camera, and doing less post processing. We discussed this with you last week with your exposure problems. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.1/389 - Release Date: 07/14/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.1/389 - Release Date: 07/14/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO: new arrival
My new roomie http://users.rcn.com/annsan/ashley1bw.jpg ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Snap du jour: the honey-heavy dew of slumber
Bob W wrote: In a way, all photography is voyeurism. [...] Refusing to photograph the homeless and otherwise, would on the flip side, would be like denying their very existence. Which could be considered a form of denial. [...] But, definitely, looking at pictures of the homeless and down and out may be the most gut wrenching. Marnie aka Doe I agree with you, by and large. I should point out though that we don't know whether the man in the photo is homeless or down and out. For all I know he could be the fashion editor of Vogue, the president of the Royal Institute of British Architects, or an internet libel lawyer trawling for business. I'd also like to point out that it is not a picture of a down-and-out. It's a picture of a person who was asleep on his feet in an interesting composition. Whether he is down and out or the fashion editor of Vogue makes no difference - I would have taken exactly the same photograph whatever his situation. In many ways it would have been a more interesting photo if he was the President of the RIBA, and dressed appropriately. The trouble with pictures of down-and-outs is that viewers tend to see the down and out, not the person, and not the picture. That's why you have to show the face. Regards, Bob me thinks you doth protest too much... (I know, I haven't got the quite just right) This hit me particularly hard - and I could never have taken the photo - ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Demo
What do you see? How does the photo effect you? Does it make you feel anything or want to know more? Shel [Original Message] From: Jack Davis What were you trying to show? --- Shel Belinkoff wrote: http://home.earthlink.net/~morepix/demo.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: new arrival
From the look of those eyes, game on! Cute! Jack --- Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My new roomie http://users.rcn.com/annsan/ashley1bw.jpg ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: funny K10D story
On 17.07.2006, at 10:02 , Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu wrote: I've tested the DA 16-45 f/4 (btw are you also dissapointed by it's construction? There is a huge play in the focusing ring and the barrel, almost as in the FA 28-80 f/3.5-5.6) with my MZ-6, after AF locked, I was able to turn the focus ring, but only in one direction. That's funny, as I handled three various DA 16-45 and there was very little play in extended barrel and there was no play at all in the focusing ring which acted very nicely - perhaps not as good as in MF lenses, but much better than in FA zooms or for instance Nikon AF-S 24-85/3.5-4.5. Anyway its build quality is much better than of non- star FA zooms. Maybe your test sample was broken??? :-) Cheers, Sylwek -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: new arrival
Jack Davis wrote: From the look of those eyes, game on! Cute! Jack She is a sweetheart, for sure. ann --- Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My new roomie http://users.rcn.com/annsan/ashley1bw.jpg ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Test from Secondary
Send test from my secondary account. -- Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Test from Secondary
It appeared on the mail list for me. Shel [Original Message] From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PDML@pdml.net Date: 7/17/2006 8:48:50 AM Subject: Test from Secondary Send test from my secondary account. -- Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Test from Secondary
Got it. J --- Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Send test from my secondary account. -- Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: RAW workflow
On 7/16/06, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, how does Capture One LE compare with ACR? I don't have PS CS2 (yet?) as I'm still looking at the various options that are available. So I haven't used ACR, but I have downloaded the trial version of Capture One LE and it seems at first glance to be pretty good. They both have their place. If I'm upsizing, I'll bring the file into ACR. I know there's a way of batching files for conversion in ACR but I haven't tried it. I use C1LE for that. I like the way I can individually tweak the conversion settings in C1 and also crop each image. Then I add each image to the queue and let the tool process the whole batch. -- Wendy Beard Ottawa Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Green River, Utah
http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/cat/2646/display/6152995 Nice shot Joe, on of my top ten favorite places looks like early morning - yes? ann Thanks, Ann. No, it was taken in the evening. We had been at Dead Horse Point, which was clouded over. I told my wife that I'd like to hang around there in case the sun broke through the clouds. Then we were nearly struck by lightning (story a few days ago). So we gave up on Dear Horse Point and drove on to the Green River Overlook. There the sun broke through for a few minutes, as I had been hoping it would. And of course, I had left my camera back in the car. So I ran back to the parking lot, then back to the overlook, and the light was still wonderful. Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Demo
Hi Shel, You wrote: What do you see? How does the photo effect you? Does it make you feel anything or want to know more? What I see does not engage me. Maybe it would be more interesting if it had a context. Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: new arrival
How cute. Ann Sanfedele wrote: My new roomie http://users.rcn.com/annsan/ashley1bw.jpg ann -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Conversions
Hi gang. Pondering over this the past few days, well not Sunday, i was more concerned about dieing in the heat, than this,vbg Converting to BW. i seem to have a 80-20% nogood/ good ratio. Just wondering were i should be spending my time. In the colour stage adjusting the file or in the converted stage. Getting good contrast seems to be my biggest problem. IR seems the bigger miss. Getting the false colours to a good BW. Maybe i';m just not clear on what i should be looking for or to. Any suggestions. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Conversions
Hi Dave, IR conversions can be tricky. You have to start with a good exposure. I've found that the best candidates have good contrast before conversion. I shoot them in RAW and adjust brightness, exposure and contrast in the RAW converter to get a nice distinct image with a good histogram. After conversion to tiff, I use the channel mixer to convert to BW. I find I generally have to use at least 100 percent of the red channel, sometimes more. I usually have to reduce the constant by 2 percent or so. Sometimes 6 or 7 percent on the blue and green channel will improve the highlights a bit. Hope this helps. I'm still working this out myself, but the above seems to get me very close to where I want to go. Paul -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi gang. Pondering over this the past few days, well not Sunday, i was more concerned about dieing in the heat, than this,vbg Converting to BW. i seem to have a 80-20% nogood/ good ratio. Just wondering were i should be spending my time. In the colour stage adjusting the file or in the converted stage. Getting good contrast seems to be my biggest problem. IR seems the bigger miss. Getting the false colours to a good BW. Maybe i';m just not clear on what i should be looking for or to. Any suggestions. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Aliens
You are right - they are valves for water mains, I believe. The coats are insulation blankets - around here it doesn't get very cold, but we can get a day or two that go below freezing. In some ways, they kind of remind me of Jawas from Star Wars. -- Bruce Sunday, July 16, 2006, 12:12:41 AM, you wrote: DS Ha. Love it. DS They're valves of some description. But I gotta' ask, why do they have DS coats? :-) DS Dave DS On 7/15/06, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps a bit lighthearted - didn't see the resemblance until viewing on a bigger screen. Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, Handheld ISO 200, 1/1000 sec @ f/6.7 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3160a.htm Comments welcome -- Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Wild Oats
Hello Jack, This one doesn't grab me. I think it is because of the extreme lack of detail in the shadow of the barn -- Bruce Sunday, July 16, 2006, 7:43:27 AM, you wrote: JD Marnie's barn (with it's front in shadow) reminded me of this. JD Mamiya 6 w/50mm f/4.1L. JD Location: Yuba County, Northern California. JD Jack JD http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=132 JD __ JD Do You Yahoo!? JD Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around JD http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: RAW workflow
Can't say how they compare, but being a user of Capture One LE, I can give you my rough take. The first time I tried Capture One, I wasn't that excited about it. It seemed fine, but nothing out of the ordinary. What I had done, was taken just a couple of images and played around with it. It wasn't until later that I decided to give it one more go, that I worked on an entire family portrait session (about 70 frames) that I discovered where the real strength of it was. It is really designed as a batch system with fine controls. Converting one at a time, is no better than other tools. But when you load up a whole batch, then it starts to shine. Basically, by batch, I mean one photo session - so if you shoot portraits or weddings or events where you will have lots of pictures with pretty much the same lighting, you can pick the first one and get it adjusted, then select others with the same basic settings and apply all your changes to them. Then you can very quickly, click on each picture and see the adjustments on it and possibly override slightly. When you are ready, just have it convert them all and you are about done. When I started using it, Adobe didn't have their workflow down very well - much more disjointed and RSE and Bibble didn't exist. I think all the other players have put forth much better workflow than they did in the past, so the differences may be much smaller than they were when I started doing RAW in earnest. Since I do lots of event stuff where Capture One is such a natural, as I have looked at the others, they haven't had anything that made me want to change. I can say that if I were shooting in a more casual way (smaller groups of similar shots), that one of the other products might have a better workflow for that. I seem to recall that RSE had some kind of quick grading system for you to quickly sort the best from the medium to bad and then work within those sortings. Anyway, I hope this helps you along. -- Best regards, Bruce Sunday, July 16, 2006, 3:04:56 AM, you wrote: BW Hi, BW how does Capture One LE compare with ACR? I don't have PS CS2 (yet?) BW as I'm still looking at the various options that are available. So I BW haven't used ACR, but I have downloaded the trial version of Capture BW One LE and it seems at first glance to be pretty good. BW One thing I don't much like about it is that it only reads RAW, not BW TIFF as far as I can tell. This is a disadvantage for me because I BW have a lot of film to scan, which I save in Vuescan's raw TIFF format, BW and then use the same workflow for both camera and scanned inputs - I BW don't want to be switching tools and doing significantly different BW things just because the pictures come from a different source. BW So, does ACR read and operate on TIFFs as well as RAW? BW -- BW Thanks, BW Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Demo
Define context in this case. Shel [Original Message] From: Jostein Øksne You wrote: What do you see? How does the photo effect you? Does it make you feel anything or want to know more? What I see does not engage me. Maybe it would be more interesting if it had a context. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Conversions
Hello, Dave ... Perhaps you might start by telling us what conversion processes you've been using. There are numerous methods and techniques available. Also (and please take this in the spirit it's intended) your BW work generally is pretty poor. I don't tink you really know what good BW is supposed to look like. There are numerous styles that have been used over the years, ytet your work has always seemed lacking in shadow detail, contrast, and tonality. Can you get to some galleries or museums and spend some time looking at good, exhibition quality, BW silver prints. Maybe see a style that's similar to what you want yopur prints to look like, and then work towards that objective. In addition, it may be helpful to know what editing program you're using. I seem to reacll that you're using more than one, and maybe it would help if you chose one and stayed with it, learning it well and mastering the features you need to get the results you want. There's a program that I've used that helps with BW conversions that's really good - best I've found on the 'net. Go to http://www.theimagingfactory.com/ and download Convert to BW Pro and see how you like it. TTFN, TTYL, YMMV, Shel [Original Message] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Converting to BW. i seem to have a 80-20% nogood/ good ratio. Just wondering were i should be spending my time. In the colour stage adjusting the file or in the converted stage. Getting good contrast seems to be my biggest problem. IR seems the bigger miss. Getting the false colours to a good BW. Maybe i';m just not clear on what i should be looking for or to. Any suggestions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: RAW workflow
On Jul 17, 2006, at 9:26 AM, wendy beard wrote: I know there's a way of batching files for conversion in ACR but I haven't tried it. I use C1LE for that. I like the way I can individually tweak the conversion settings in C1 and also crop each image. Then I add each image to the queue and let the tool process the whole batch. ACR used with Photoshop CS2 and Bridge allow you to do essentially the exact same thing. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Wild Oats
I understand. I relate to the light areas of reflection that place the surface of the barn and need nothing else. The contrast it provides to 'present' the oat grass, is important to the image. For me, the heavy imposing shape of the barn adds power/drama. Not trying to change your mind, simply telling you what's in mine. Thanks very much for comments. Jack --- Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Jack, This one doesn't grab me. I think it is because of the extreme lack of detail in the shadow of the barn -- Bruce Sunday, July 16, 2006, 7:43:27 AM, you wrote: JD Marnie's barn (with it's front in shadow) reminded me of this. JD Mamiya 6 w/50mm f/4.1L. JD Location: Yuba County, Northern California. JD Jack JD http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=132 JD __ JD Do You Yahoo!? JD Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around JD http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Conversions
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Converting to BW. i seem to have a 80-20% nogood/ good ratio. Just wondering were i should be spending my time. In the colour stage adjusting the file or in the converted stage. Getting good contrast seems to be my biggest problem. IR seems the bigger miss. Getting the false colours to a good BW. Maybe i';m just not clear on what i should be looking for or to. Any suggestions. First off, try this free Photoshop plug-in: http://www.cybia.co.uk/bwplus.htm By trying various different color filters, you can often get pretty close to the tonality you want in your final image. Then working with levels and curves in Photoshop becomes easier. -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE:PESO: new arrival
Cute. But I think you're going to have a hard time getting her to pay half the rent and do half the chores :) Butch -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: DS2 extreme heat torture test
On Jul 17, 2006, at 8:25 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mind you with a black lens and black body, it got pretty hot to hold sometimes. I heard the Nikon guys curse a few times. One guy was using a lens that not only was black but was shiny -- I thought that must've been a pain to hold in the sun. -Aaron -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PESO: Peak Peek
Beautiful, Jack. Amazing light and acolours. I'd crop away the left part - toplce the peak godlen section wize, though. Subject in the middle is rarely the best. Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 15. juli 2006 07:45 Til: pdml@pdml.net Emne: Re: PESO: Peak Peek In a message dated 7/7/2006 1:02:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jack (Comments please) http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=119 === Very nice. I do believe that is magic hour. :-) Okay, I'll take it, you can whip me up a print. Marnie aka Doe ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.0/388 - Release Date: 07/13/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.1/389 - Release Date: 07/14/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Test take two
From Primary resubbed. -- Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Conversions
That only works on 8-bit images. Not necessarily the best route to go. Shel [Original Message] From: Mark Roberts First off, try this free Photoshop plug-in: http://www.cybia.co.uk/bwplus.htm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO - Great Egret
At least I believe that is what it is. Got several pretty good shots on my walk this morning. So another couple may be coming through. Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X 400/5.6, handheld ISO 200, 1/1000 sec @ f/8.0 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3179a.htm Comments welcome -- Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: DS2 extreme heat torture test
On Jul 17, 2006, at 10:47 AM, Aaron Reynolds wrote: Mind you with a black lens and black body, it got pretty hot to hold sometimes. I heard the Nikon guys curse a few times. One guy was using a lens that not only was black but was shiny -- I thought that must've been a pain to hold in the sun. I can imagine. I recall shooting a BALLS rocketry meet on the Black Rock Playa in Nevada in 1998 when temperatures in the sun hit 120 degrees F. My Nikon FM was too hot to hold without a thin pair of cotton gloves on after about 5 minutes ... I kept it in a cooler most of the time so as not to cook the film. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PESO: Peak Peek
Like this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/191879967/ I'll take it awasy soon - hopt yiu don't mind ... Regards jens Beautiful, Jack. Amazing light and acolours. I'd crop away the left part - toplce the peak godlen section wize, though. Subject in the middle is rarely the best. Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 15. juli 2006 07:45 Til: pdml@pdml.net Emne: Re: PESO: Peak Peek In a message dated 7/7/2006 1:02:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jack (Comments please) http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=119 === Very nice. I do believe that is magic hour. :-) Okay, I'll take it, you can whip me up a print. Marnie aka Doe ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.0/388 - Release Date: 07/13/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.1/389 - Release Date: 07/14/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Great Egret
Well done. Nice detail in the highlights, good bokeh. Like it. Paul -- Original message -- From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] At least I believe that is what it is. Got several pretty good shots on my walk this morning. So another couple may be coming through. Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X 400/5.6, handheld ISO 200, 1/1000 sec @ f/8.0 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3179a.htm Comments welcome -- Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Sad but true...
I put my MZ-S on eBay last night. http://cgi.ebay.com/Pentax-MZ-S-and-battery-grip-Pentaxs-Finest-LN_W0QQitemZ220008061420QQihZ012QQcategoryZ15240QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Woulodn't be surprised if it doesn't sell, though... (Don't know whether I'll be happy or sad if it doesn't) -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Great Egret
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well done. Nice detail in the highlights, good bokeh. Like it. Paul What's up with the area to the left of the bird? Distracting... something cloned out? -- Original message -- From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] At least I believe that is what it is. Got several pretty good shots on my walk this morning. So another couple may be coming through. Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X 400/5.6, handheld ISO 200, 1/1000 sec @ f/8.0 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3179a.htm Comments welcome -- Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Great Egret
Bruce Dayton wrote: At least I believe that is what it is. Got several pretty good shots on my walk this morning. So another couple may be coming through. Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X 400/5.6, handheld ISO 200, 1/1000 sec @ f/8.0 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3179a.htm I've been waiting a long, long time to see Bruce Dayton turn out a bad photo. I guess I'm going to have to keep waiting. :) -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PESO - Great Egret
Bingo! Looks pretty good, Bruce. You're turning into as good a bird photog as you are with flowers. I'll need to drive up and get some lessons from you ;-)) Shel [Original Message] From: Bruce Dayton At least I believe that is what it is. Got several pretty good shots on my walk this morning. So another couple may be coming through. Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X 400/5.6, handheld ISO 200, 1/1000 sec @ f/8.0 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3179a.htm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Demo
Define context in this case. Lol... Why? Jostein [Original Message] From: Jostein Øksne You wrote: What do you see? How does the photo effect you? Does it make you feel anything or want to know more? What I see does not engage me. Maybe it would be more interesting if it had a context. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Great Egret
Ryan Brooks wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well done. Nice detail in the highlights, good bokeh. Like it. Paul What's up with the area to the left of the bird? Distracting... something cloned out? right that is. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Great Egret
I think the whole trick is that morning walk thing grin. Come on up some time - maybe we can start to think about another NorCal gathering. It has been awhile. -- Bruce Monday, July 17, 2006, 11:19:34 AM, you wrote: SB Bingo! Looks pretty good, Bruce. You're turning into as good a bird SB photog as you are with flowers. I'll need to drive up and get some lessons SB from you ;-)) SB Shel [Original Message] From: Bruce Dayton At least I believe that is what it is. Got several pretty good shots on my walk this morning. So another couple may be coming through. Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X 400/5.6, handheld ISO 200, 1/1000 sec @ f/8.0 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3179a.htm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PESO: Peak Peek
I do like your crop. If a 'serious' use should come up, it's one I would consider. This scene is a souvenir of my June photo trip and my current temporary wallpaper. Will probably never be used for anything else. As wallpaper, the stream of left side icons now have a place to be without getting involved with Grand Teton Peak. Thanks for your ideas. Jack --- Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Like this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/191879967/ I'll take it awasy soon - hopt yiu don't mind ... Regards jens Beautiful, Jack. Amazing light and acolours. I'd crop away the left part - toplce the peak godlen section wize, though. Subject in the middle is rarely the best. Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 15. juli 2006 07:45 Til: pdml@pdml.net Emne: Re: PESO: Peak Peek In a message dated 7/7/2006 1:02:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jack (Comments please) http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=119 === Very nice. I do believe that is magic hour. :-) Okay, I'll take it, you can whip me up a print. Marnie aka Doe ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.0/388 - Release Date: 07/13/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.1/389 - Release Date: 07/14/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PESO - Great Egret
Splendid! Very nice Tom C. From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: PDML@pdml.net Subject: PESO - Great Egret Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 10:56:28 -0700 At least I believe that is what it is. Got several pretty good shots on my walk this morning. So another couple may be coming through. Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X 400/5.6, handheld ISO 200, 1/1000 sec @ f/8.0 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3179a.htm Comments welcome -- Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Great Egret
Ahh Had a go at the same species in Assateague Nat'l park in 2004. Makes me appreciate your shot all the more. Great portrait. I suppose some would find the background distracting, but I think it's ok. Makes it more real life to me. Jostein On 7/17/06, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At least I believe that is what it is. Got several pretty good shots on my walk this morning. So another couple may be coming through. Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X 400/5.6, handheld ISO 200, 1/1000 sec @ f/8.0 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3179a.htm Comments welcome -- Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Great Egret
Bruce Dayton wrote: At least I believe that is what it is. Got several pretty good shots on my walk this morning. So another couple may be coming through. Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X 400/5.6, handheld ISO 200, 1/1000 sec @ f/8.0 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3179a.htm Comments welcome Nice one, Bruce! -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Sad but true...
On 17.07.06, at 19:59 , Mark Roberts wrote: I put my MZ-S on eBay last night. http://cgi.ebay.com/Pentax-MZ-S-and-battery-grip-Pentaxs-Finest- LN_W0QQitemZ220008061420QQihZ012QQcategoryZ15240QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Woulodn't be surprised if it doesn't sell, though... (Don't know whether I'll be happy or sad if it doesn't) Collecting money for K10D? ;-) I would do the same except that I gave MZ-S to my better half, so basically it is not mine ;-) -- Best regards Sylwek -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: DS2 extreme heat torture test
Aaron Reynolds wrote: On Jul 17, 2006, at 8:25 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mind you with a black lens and black body, it got pretty hot to hold sometimes. I heard the Nikon guys curse a few times. One guy was using a lens that not only was black but was shiny -- I thought that must've been a pain to hold in the sun. -Aaron Unfortunately Nikon makes it quite difficult to buy the white versions of their lenses (which do exist for all the Pro Telephotos). -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Sad but true...
I recently ask KEH for a quote on both a NN MZ-S w/BG10 grip and an EX+ LX w/FA-1 finder. They offered (pending review) $410 for the MZ-S combination and $369 for the LX. If I were to sell them the LX, (giving it serious thought)I will have sold off some $3900 worth of equipment in the last six months. Have no problem keeping the marvelous MZ-S. Jack PS: BH offered $440 for both outfits. They, obviously, can't be bothered. --- Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I put my MZ-S on eBay last night. http://cgi.ebay.com/Pentax-MZ-S-and-battery-grip-Pentaxs-Finest-LN_W0QQitemZ220008061420QQihZ012QQcategoryZ15240QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Woulodn't be surprised if it doesn't sell, though... (Don't know whether I'll be happy or sad if it doesn't) -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Reply from Pentax on FA28-70/4 repair.
Don, I did a little poking around, the last MSRP for this lens was $345.00, which gave it a street price between $150.00 and $225.00 in my experience. I've seen them go on e-bay for as much as $125.00, not recently, but the element separation problem has been getting a fair amount of word of mouth. About the lack of sharpness on digital I have no real clue, except that one of the symptoms, (in my copy of the lens at least), that the separation had begun, was the the photos made with it weren't as sharp as previously. It is kind of what you would expect from a developing cataract, which is what my lens looks like it has now. -Peter Don Sanderson wrote: Hi Peter, the last new prices I remember were in the $200-$225 range. I wouldn't mind the price except all of the samples I've tried on the ist-D gave very mediocre results. Being a glutton for punishment I've bought seven of these little devils looking for a good one. ;-) Even the perfect looking ones gave pretty disappointing results on the digi. It's hard to get more than $75-90 for them so I don't know if it's worth the investment. I was rather hoping Pentax would admit to their construction flaw and offer a bit better deal. No such luck though. This was one of the original Japanese made ones so I might go ahead anyway. Rather irks me though that THK CLA'd my ATX 80-200/2.8 for less that amount. Don -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of P. J. Alling Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 10:18 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Reply from Pentax on FA28-70/4 repair. If they're going to rebuild the whole lens it's more than worth it. The lens had a list price of about $400. if I remember correctly. The repair cost they're quoting you is very reasonable. I expected it to cost more than $100.00 it looks like I'll be calling Pentax next week. Don Sanderson wrote: As most of you will recall I've been trying to get an answer from Pentax as to whether they can fix the fogged/cracked element in the FA 28-70 lens. Sent it to Colorado last week, got a snail-mail reply today. Well, the good news is that they _can_ fix it. Sounds like they'll pretty much rebuild the whole thing. The bad news is that it will run $87.00. ;-( Not sure it's really worth it. I'll have to decide. Don -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Catherine Leroy has died
This is actually quite old news, but I only saw her obituary today, and I haven't seen it mentioned on the PDML. She was a French photographer who made a name for herself in the Vietnam War, and in other wars later. One of her documentaries later led to the making of the feature film Born on the Fourth of July. http://www.pieceuniquegallery.com/ http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-5940855,00.html -- Regards, Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PESO: Wild Oats
I like that shot, and don't mind the lack of detail. It reminds me of a dust-bowl, FSA type of photo. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jack Davis Sent: 17 July 2006 18:31 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO: Wild Oats I understand. I relate to the light areas of reflection that place the surface of the barn and need nothing else. The contrast it provides to 'present' the oat grass, is important to the image. For me, the heavy imposing shape of the barn adds power/drama. Not trying to change your mind, simply telling you what's in mine. Thanks very much for comments. Jack --- Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Jack, This one doesn't grab me. I think it is because of the extreme lack of detail in the shadow of the barn -- Bruce Sunday, July 16, 2006, 7:43:27 AM, you wrote: JD Marnie's barn (with it's front in shadow) reminded me of this. JD Mamiya 6 w/50mm f/4.1L. JD Location: Yuba County, Northern California. JD Jack JD http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=132 JD __ JD Do You Yahoo!? JD Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around JD http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Test take two
Came through at 1:55pm EDT. On 7/17/06, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From Primary resubbed. -- Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Sad but true...
Mark, Sorry it came to this. Larry in Dallas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Demo
I don't think that's my job. Jack --- Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you see? How does the photo effect you? Does it make you feel anything or want to know more? Shel [Original Message] From: Jack Davis What were you trying to show? --- Shel Belinkoff wrote: http://home.earthlink.net/~morepix/demo.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Great Egret
You've managed to not blow out the highlights on an entirely white bird without using artificial lighting aids. In addition using a 400mm lens hand held , this image shows no camera movement what so ever and has nearly perfect focus and DOF. I hate you. Bruce Dayton wrote: At least I believe that is what it is. Got several pretty good shots on my walk this morning. So another couple may be coming through. Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X 400/5.6, handheld ISO 200, 1/1000 sec @ f/8.0 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3179a.htm Comments welcome -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PESO: Wild Oats
I'm complimented! Thanks, Bob Jack --- Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like that shot, and don't mind the lack of detail. It reminds me of a dust-bowl, FSA type of photo. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jack Davis Sent: 17 July 2006 18:31 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO: Wild Oats I understand. I relate to the light areas of reflection that place the surface of the barn and need nothing else. The contrast it provides to 'present' the oat grass, is important to the image. For me, the heavy imposing shape of the barn adds power/drama. Not trying to change your mind, simply telling you what's in mine. Thanks very much for comments. Jack --- Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Jack, This one doesn't grab me. I think it is because of the extreme lack of detail in the shadow of the barn -- Bruce Sunday, July 16, 2006, 7:43:27 AM, you wrote: JD Marnie's barn (with it's front in shadow) reminded me of this. JD Mamiya 6 w/50mm f/4.1L. JD Location: Yuba County, Northern California. JD Jack JD http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=132 JD __ JD Do You Yahoo!? JD Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around JD http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PESO - Demo
I would prefer it if the man was in focus. I think it would give greater continuity from the placard to the man, especially since the tones are similar. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: 17 July 2006 15:00 To: PDML Subject: PESO - Demo http://home.earthlink.net/~morepix/demo.html Pentax MX, Tri-X @ 250 in ID-11 Comments, crits, rotten tomatoes welcome Shel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Sad but true...
Jack Davis wrote: I recently ask KEH for a quote on both a NN MZ-S w/BG10 grip and an EX+ LX w/FA-1 finder. They offered (pending review) $410 for the MZ-S combination Wow. That's actually encouraging. Given how much KEH marks up their cameras, they must expect to get a pretty good price for it if they're offering $410. -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Aliens
On 7/14/06, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps a bit lighthearted - didn't see the resemblance until viewing on a bigger screen. Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, Handheld ISO 200, 1/1000 sec @ f/6.7 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3160a.htm Looks like something out of an old science fiction B movie from the 50's or something. LOL Good one!! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Found some unoficcial K100D test shots
...while scanning the DP Review site: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=19230753 -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Sad but true...
Mark Roberts wrote: Jack Davis wrote: I recently ask KEH for a quote on both a NN MZ-S w/BG10 grip and an EX+ LX w/FA-1 finder. They offered (pending review) $410 for the MZ-S combination Wow. That's actually encouraging. Given how much KEH marks up their cameras, they must expect to get a pretty good price for it if they're offering $410. Oh, and I set the reserve price on my MZ-S/BG-10 combo at $500.00, which is certainly well below what KEH must think they can get for it. -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Sad but true...
That's, of course, with the BG10. IIMA, how much are you planning to accept on eBay? Jack --- Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jack Davis wrote: I recently ask KEH for a quote on both a NN MZ-S w/BG10 grip and an EX+ LX w/FA-1 finder. They offered (pending review) $410 for the MZ-S combination Wow. That's actually encouraging. Given how much KEH marks up their cameras, they must expect to get a pretty good price for it if they're offering $410. -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Great Egret
Nice capture Bruce. Might be better with slightly less depth of field for the background. Still a keeper. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO - Great Egret At least I believe that is what it is. Got several pretty good shots on my walk this morning. So another couple may be coming through. Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X 400/5.6, handheld ISO 200, 1/1000 sec @ f/8.0 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3179a.htm Comments welcome -- Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Demo
On 7/17/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://home.earthlink.net/~morepix/demo.html See no evil, speak no evil. You're missing the third element of the trilogy. g It's interesting, Shel. I'm not sure whether the man on the left is a figure of authority, refusing to acknowledge the woman who's being gagged, or if he's one of the oppressed. Either way, it's a photo that makes me think, so that can't be a bad thing. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Great Egret
On 7/17/06, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You've managed to not blow out the highlights on an entirely white bird without using artificial lighting aids. In addition using a 400mm lens hand held , this image shows no camera movement what so ever and has nearly perfect focus and DOF. I hate you. Peter, Clearly you ought to have no egrets. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Great Egret
I think we did that one already. -- Original message -- From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 7/17/06, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You've managed to not blow out the highlights on an entirely white bird without using artificial lighting aids. In addition using a 400mm lens hand held , this image shows no camera movement what so ever and has nearly perfect focus and DOF. I hate you. Peter, Clearly you ought to have no egrets. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Great Egret
I think we did that one already Yeah, I thought we heard the swan song on that one. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 4:20 PM Subject: Re: PESO - Great Egret I think we did that one already. -- Original message -- From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 7/17/06, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You've managed to not blow out the highlights on an entirely white bird without using artificial lighting aids. In addition using a 400mm lens hand held , this image shows no camera movement what so ever and has nearly perfect focus and DOF. I hate you. Peter, Clearly you ought to have no egrets. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Found some unoficcial K100D test shots
Impressive! Looks like this camera will give steady Stenquist a run for the money. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Found some unoficcial K100D test shots ...while scanning the DP Review site: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=19230753 -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Great Egret
Clearly you ought to have no egrets. cheers, frank No. I'd say he has great egrets. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 4:15 PM Subject: Re: PESO - Great Egret On 7/17/06, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You've managed to not blow out the highlights on an entirely white bird without using artificial lighting aids. In addition using a 400mm lens hand held , this image shows no camera movement what so ever and has nearly perfect focus and DOF. I hate you. Peter, Clearly you ought to have no egrets. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Great Egret
On 7/17/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think we did that one already. That was another thread. I'm not above robin jokes from one thread to use in another. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO - Hasty Retreat
This was taken as the egrets flew off. I had to crop it a fair bit as I didn't have enough reach with the 400mm. Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X SD 400/5.6, handheld, manual focus ISO 200, 1/1500 sec @ f/8.0 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3187a.htm Comments welcome. -- Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Hasty Retreat
Still very nice. The shadow/highlight relationship is perfect. Paul -- Original message -- From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] This was taken as the egrets flew off. I had to crop it a fair bit as I didn't have enough reach with the 400mm. Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X SD 400/5.6, handheld, manual focus ISO 200, 1/1500 sec @ f/8.0 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3187a.htm Comments welcome. -- Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Found some unoficcial K100D test shots
I can't wait to shoot birds with a handheld 800 mm. Paul -- Original message -- From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Impressive! Looks like this camera will give steady Stenquist a run for the money. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Found some unoficcial K100D test shots ...while scanning the DP Review site: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=19230753 -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Great Egret
To death... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think we did that one already. -- Original message -- From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 7/17/06, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You've managed to not blow out the highlights on an entirely white bird without using artificial lighting aids. In addition using a 400mm lens hand held , this image shows no camera movement what so ever and has nearly perfect focus and DOF. I hate you. Peter, Clearly you ought to have no egrets. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Hasty Retreat
On 7/17/06, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This was taken as the egrets flew off. I had to crop it a fair bit as I didn't have enough reach with the 400mm. Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X SD 400/5.6, handheld, manual focus ISO 200, 1/1500 sec @ f/8.0 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3187a.htm Classic! The exposure is wonderful. I love the detail in the feathers. cheers, frank, who's done with the bird jokes -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Sad but true...
Been there, done that, Mark. I sold mine (along with some other stuff) in order to finance my *ist D. I managed to buy one without actually spending money. But I did regret it. So, I bought another MZ-S from a fellow list member - Joe Wilensky. I enjoy using it from time to time - for slides, mostly. It has no write speed issues and low battery consumption - and it has an aperture simulator, so I can use K and M lenses in Av mode. And it's Full Frame ;-) Anyway - good luck! Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Mark Roberts Sendt: 17. juli 2006 20:00 Til: pdml@pdml.net Emne: Sad but true... I put my MZ-S on eBay last night. http://cgi.ebay.com/Pentax-MZ-S-and-battery-grip-Pentaxs-Finest-LN_W0QQitemZ 220008061420QQihZ012QQcategoryZ15240QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Woulodn't be surprised if it doesn't sell, though... (Don't know whether I'll be happy or sad if it doesn't) -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.1/389 - Release Date: 07/14/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.1/389 - Release Date: 07/14/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Hasty Retreat
Another great one Bruce, perfect I'd say. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO - Hasty Retreat This was taken as the egrets flew off. I had to crop it a fair bit as I didn't have enough reach with the 400mm. Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X SD 400/5.6, handheld, manual focus ISO 200, 1/1500 sec @ f/8.0 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3187a.htm Comments welcome. -- Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Great Egret
I'm not above robin jokes from one thread to use in another. You better watch out Knarf, there are a lot of eagle eyed pdml'ers who are watching this like a hawk. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PESO - Great Egret On 7/17/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think we did that one already. That was another thread. I'm not above robin jokes from one thread to use in another. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Found some unoficcial K100D test shots
I can't wait to shoot birds with a handheld 800 mm. Paul If its a single lens (w/o extender etc) you better start a weight lifting program today. Kenneth Waller (Who can hand hold his 600mm but not to take an image with!) - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 4:32 PM Subject: Re: Found some unoficcial K100D test shots I can't wait to shoot birds with a handheld 800 mm. Paul -- Original message -- From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Impressive! Looks like this camera will give steady Stenquist a run for the money. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Found some unoficcial K100D test shots ...while scanning the DP Review site: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=19230753 -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Found some unoficcial K100D test shots
On 7/17/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't wait to shoot birds with a handheld 800 mm. Hey, Steady, Don't you do that now? LOL cheers, frank PS: I'll never buy image stabilization. It'll ruin the look... -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Great Egret
On 7/17/06, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You better watch out Knarf, there are a lot of eagle eyed pdml'ers who are watching this like a hawk. I'm not chicken of the likes of them. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Great Egret
Watch it or we'll set the eagle department on you. frank theriault wrote: On 7/17/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think we did that one already. That was another thread. I'm not above robin jokes from one thread to use in another. cheers, frank -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Great Egret
I absolutely agree. Very nice as is, but an increase in DOF would help soften the intersecting tree trunk. Jack --- Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice capture Bruce. Might be better with slightly less depth of field for the background. Still a keeper. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO - Great Egret At least I believe that is what it is. Got several pretty good shots on my walk this morning. So another couple may be coming through. Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X 400/5.6, handheld ISO 200, 1/1000 sec @ f/8.0 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3179a.htm Comments welcome -- Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Hasty Retreat
Crop is ideal and focus appears more than acceptable. Love the colors. Jack --- Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This was taken as the egrets flew off. I had to crop it a fair bit as I didn't have enough reach with the 400mm. Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X SD 400/5.6, handheld, manual focus ISO 200, 1/1500 sec @ f/8.0 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3187a.htm Comments welcome. -- Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Great Egret
In a message dated 7/17/2006 11:02:48 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At least I believe that is what it is. Got several pretty good shots on my walk this morning. So another couple may be coming through. Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X 400/5.6, handheld ISO 200, 1/1000 sec @ f/8.0 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3179a.htm Comments welcome -- Bruce == Lovely, Bruce, lovely -- from composition to OOF. There does seem to be a tiny speck right above his hump you might want to take out. Not sure what it is, but it may have been dirt or something. Really, really nice shot. Marnie aka Doe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Found some unoficcial K100D test shots
Frank, imagine the amount of shake you have now, but with way more depth of field. -Aaron -Original Message- From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: Re: Found some unoficcial K100D test shots Date: Mon Jul 17, 2006 5:14 pm Size: 412 bytes To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net On 7/17/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't wait to shoot birds with a handheld 800 mm. Hey, Steady, Don't you do that now? LOL cheers, frank PS: I'll never buy image stabilization. It'll ruin the look... -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net