Re: K10D - More News
Does it bother anyone else that the K1D may shortly follow? Of course I wouldn't absolutely need it, but for just a few hundred more and with that larger sensor, etc..etc.. I don't need two. Learned that from my wife. :-( Jack --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In a message dated 8/4/2006 7:02:48 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Maybe we're seeing movement in the digital camera market. Perhaps > well speced cameras are now going to be commonly available for $800. > > I've always thought that the mature market would land somewhere > around there. > > That's what I think. I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that because > it isn't > priced higher that it's going to be a pile of c... > > Marnie aka Doe > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GESO: "McKenzie Country"
On Aug 4, 2006, at 10:37 PM, Don Williams wrote: > I find the buttons too small and indistinct. They are also not > where you > would expect them to be. The pictures are great. Thanks for the feedback (and to everyone else). I'll take a look at the buttons later... - Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D - More News
> Thats all. $900. $800 body only, which is how I suspect you will buy it. > I was under the impression, and again i'm way off it seems, that the > K10D was a big body camera, that would take a run at the D2X, the MK > II etc. This boggles my mind. If you'd been paying attention to the photos from PMA, you'd have seen it was pretty much a better and slightly larger *istD. You can get a grip for it, much like the D, if you really want to pretend it's like those other cameras. > I was hope ing to buy a Pentax > equivalent to the Nikon big bodies i have. Hmm, let's see... how well did the MZ-S do in the pro photographer market? How many pro photographers use 35mm or digital Pentax SLRs? Virtually none, you say? Well then, I don't see how Pentax could even hope to make any money if they tried to get back into the high-end non-medium format SLR market. Besides, they don't have the big glass that so many pros want (from my experience in the camera shop I work at, anyway). In short, Pentax could build it, but no one would come. No one aside from a few of us rabid fans, anyway. They'd go bankrupt and then we'd all be buying Samsung cameras and lenses. > Dave, the disappointed, Brooks Should I send a whmbulance? John Celio ...is utterly baffled by the expectations people have dreamt up for the K10D... -- http://www.neovenator.com AIM: Neopifex "Hey, I'm an artist. I can do whatever I want and pretend I'm making a statement." -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D - More News
>>I missed anything about AF -- what did he say about it? > > Better AF performance and an evolution of the K-mount. It is generally > interpreted as meaning USM. Then it's a poor interpretation. There is nothing to suggest Pentax has come up with a new focusing system. Nothing but hyped-up rumors and uninformed speculation. If there really is something revolutionary coming with the K10D, I think we're all better off waiting till September 13th so we can hear it straight from the horse's mouth. I'd bet money it won't be anything like USM, but I'm saving up for both a new car and the K10D. John Celio -- http://www.neovenator.com AIM: Neopifex "Hey, I'm an artist. I can do whatever I want and pretend I'm making a statement." -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D - More News
> Maybe we're seeing movement in the digital camera market. Perhaps > well speced cameras are now going to be commonly available for $800. > I've always thought that the mature market would land somewhere > around there. > > That's what I think. I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that because it > isn't > priced higher that it's going to be a pile of c... Canon? ;-D John Celio -- http://www.neovenator.com AIM: Neopifex "Hey, I'm an artist. I can do whatever I want and pretend I'm making a statement." -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Problem with DL USB cable
Adam Maas wrote: > Keith McGuinness wrote: >> >> Not for me. I prefer using the cable to a card reader (which I >> have also). >> >> Keith McG >> > A good card reader is significantly faster and doesn't drain your camera > batteries. Why use the cable? The difference in transfer between 3 minutes and 1 minute (or whatever) is inconsequential and my six thumbs and fumble fingers have an easier time with the cable. I've never filled a card, so rarely have any reason to remove one. As for the drain on the batteries, it is easy enough to pop them out for a quick charge. Not recommending this to others, just saying what I do. Keith McG -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Problem with DL USB cable
I've only taken the USB cable out of the box once to try the Pentax Assistant with the DS body. It works, and is irrelevant to my uses, so I put the cable back in the DS box. Godfrey > Really??? Why??? Can't see any reason to use the cable if you have a > card reader. > >> Not for me. I prefer using the cable to a card reader (which I >> have also). >> >>> He should simply throw away the cable and DL using a card reader. >>> Far more reliable, and less hassle. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D - More News
In a message dated 8/4/2006 7:02:48 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Maybe we're seeing movement in the digital camera market. Perhaps well speced cameras are now going to be commonly available for $800. I've always thought that the mature market would land somewhere around there. That's what I think. I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that because it isn't priced higher that it's going to be a pile of c... Marnie aka Doe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Dilemma.
Vid Strpic wrote: > Buy *istDL today, or wait a little to get K100D in my country? Prices > will most probably be about the same but what's new in K100D, that I > desperately need? Very little... so, I'm perplexed, which one to buy. > > Wait until the K100D shows in your country. You will get SR and faster AF, for the same price or little more. Carlos -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Problem with DL USB cable
Really??? Why??? Can't see any reason to use the cable if you have a card reader. Paul On Aug 4, 2006, at 9:09 PM, Keith McGuinness wrote: > John Forbes wrote: >> He should simply throw away the cable and DL using a card reader. >> Far >> more reliable, and less hassle. > > Not for me. I prefer using the cable to a card reader (which I > have also). > > Keith McG > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Problem with DL USB cable
Keith McGuinness wrote: > John Forbes wrote: > >>He should simply throw away the cable and DL using a card reader. Far >>more reliable, and less hassle. > > > Not for me. I prefer using the cable to a card reader (which I > have also). > > Keith McG > > A good card reader is significantly faster and doesn't drain your camera batteries. Why use the cable? -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Chipmunk Flare
Appreciate it, Bob. Jack --- Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A fun image Jack! > Chipmunks make an interesting subject. > And hard to catch in motion. > Regards, Bob S. > > On 8/4/06, Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is all about a cute accident. > > At Bryce Canyon, UT, several years back, my wife was 'playing' with > a > > chipmunk by placing bits of Ritz crackers on a pine root. (Probably > a > > Chipmunk nutritional NO NO). > > It would dart out and promptly vaporize. I took a few shots and, > when > > processed, was surprised by this reminder of the gymnastic floor > > exercise move known as a "flare". Hence, the title. > > This image is an extremely small part of the frame and not quite a > > solid freeze. > > > > Jack > > > > Comments welcome > > > > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=158 > > > > __ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D - More News
The D build is superb. If it's as well built as that camera with the specs as presented, it should be quite satisfying. Paul On Aug 4, 2006, at 10:01 PM, Aaron Reynolds wrote: > Or maybe it's being priced to compete with the Alpha? Two months > ago, the projected street price was higher than this. > > It's supposedly built like the D. Personally I have no issues with > the build of the very solid little DS2. > > -Aaron > > -Original Message- > > From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subj: Re: K10D - More News > Date: Fri Aug 4, 2006 9:54 pm > Size: 1000 bytes > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > Maybe we're seeing movement in the digital camera market. Perhaps > well speced cameras are now going to be commonly available for $800. > I've always thought that the mature market would land somewhere > around there. > On Aug 4, 2006, at 9:02 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > >> John Celio wrote: >> >> Body + 18-55 lens should be $899. > > :( > I was hoping for a higher-spec'd camera (around 1200-1500 body > only). > Hope they haven't cheaped out. Me too. >>> >>> What the hell is wrong with you guys? You actually WANT to pay >>> that much? >> >> Yes. Every sub-$1000 DSLR I've ever handled (and I think I've handled >> them all) has fallen far below the standard of equipment I want to >> buy. >> >> -- >> Mark Roberts Photography & Multimedia >> www.robertstech.com >> 412-687-2835 >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D - More News
Or maybe it's being priced to compete with the Alpha? Two months ago, the projected street price was higher than this. It's supposedly built like the D. Personally I have no issues with the build of the very solid little DS2. -Aaron -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subj: Re: K10D - More News Date: Fri Aug 4, 2006 9:54 pm Size: 1000 bytes To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Maybe we're seeing movement in the digital camera market. Perhaps well speced cameras are now going to be commonly available for $800. I've always thought that the mature market would land somewhere around there. On Aug 4, 2006, at 9:02 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > John Celio wrote: > > Body + 18-55 lens should be $899. :( I was hoping for a higher-spec'd camera (around 1200-1500 body only). Hope they haven't cheaped out. >>> >>> Me too. >> >> What the hell is wrong with you guys? You actually WANT to pay >> that much? > > Yes. Every sub-$1000 DSLR I've ever handled (and I think I've handled > them all) has fallen far below the standard of equipment I want to > buy. > > -- > Mark Roberts Photography & Multimedia > www.robertstech.com > 412-687-2835 > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D - More News
Maybe we're seeing movement in the digital camera market. Perhaps well speced cameras are now going to be commonly available for $800. I've always thought that the mature market would land somewhere around there. On Aug 4, 2006, at 9:02 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > John Celio wrote: > > Body + 18-55 lens should be $899. :( I was hoping for a higher-spec'd camera (around 1200-1500 body only). Hope they haven't cheaped out. >>> >>> Me too. >> >> What the hell is wrong with you guys? You actually WANT to pay >> that much? > > Yes. Every sub-$1000 DSLR I've ever handled (and I think I've handled > them all) has fallen far below the standard of equipment I want to > buy. > > -- > Mark Roberts Photography & Multimedia > www.robertstech.com > 412-687-2835 > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Chipmunk Flare
A fun image Jack! Chipmunks make an interesting subject. And hard to catch in motion. Regards, Bob S. On 8/4/06, Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is all about a cute accident. > At Bryce Canyon, UT, several years back, my wife was 'playing' with a > chipmunk by placing bits of Ritz crackers on a pine root. (Probably a > Chipmunk nutritional NO NO). > It would dart out and promptly vaporize. I took a few shots and, when > processed, was surprised by this reminder of the gymnastic floor > exercise move known as a "flare". Hence, the title. > This image is an extremely small part of the frame and not quite a > solid freeze. > > Jack > > Comments welcome > > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=158 > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D - More News
I was calling the green mode, program mode. Incorrectly I guess. I find hyper program mode somewhat useful as well, although I haven't used it much lately. On Aug 4, 2006, at 9:30 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > Simple Program mode on the D is Hyper Program. I find that much more > useful than any number of idiot modes. > > Aaron Reynolds wrote: > >> On Aug 4, 2006, at 8:50 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: >> >> >> >>> No, the D has no idiot modes other than a simple "P" mode. The >>> others >>> are manual, aperture priority, shutter priority and hyperprogram. >>> >>> >> >> Why do I remember pictograms on the top LCD? Am I thinking of some >> other camera? Do they appear in green mode? >> >> I would think that the idiot modes are far more useful than simple >> P -- >> they give some shape to the program. Of course, I say that having >> used >> neither of them. >> >> -Aaron >> >> >> >> > > > -- > When you're worried or in doubt, > Run in circles, (scream and shout). > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D - More News
Hey Tom, I found out what a server is. If you'd like to fins out, let me know. Jack --- Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Any practical help appreciated. > > > >Jack > > In the event of an actual nuclear missle attack, Tuck head between > legs, > count to 10, kiss your *ss goodbye. > > Take two aspirin, go to bed, and call me in the morning. > > A stitch in time saves nine. > > Tom C. > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D - More News
I don't disagree that ISO should be visible in the viewfinder; even if it were, the D's implementation would still be terrible. No matter what, you have to change your hand position to change ISO. With a film camera, this was acceptable because you don't change ISO in mid-roll. Any function that makes me stop shooting to adjust it is badly implemented, and I mean full-stop -- I have to move a hand position and move my head or move the camera. Dials are only good when properly implemented. -Aaron -Original Message- From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subj: Re: K10D - More News Date: Fri Aug 4, 2006 9:15 pm Size: 938 bytes To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List If the set ISO was visible in the viewfinder at all times it wouldn't be nearly as bad as you make it out to be. It's now a shooting parameter, if you have shutter speed and f stop in the viewfinder you should have current ISO as well. Then the dial makes sense. A push button to change the function of one of the wheels would make more sense, but I figure we'll never see that. Aaron Reynolds wrote: >On Aug 4, 2006, at 8:56 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > > > >>That's the most I want to see on the mode dial on the K10D. >> >> > >I would prefer to see ISO and WB in their current configuration on the >DS2 -- the implementation of both on the D is ass-backwards and >idiotic. Slow as molasses to use when they're up on the dial. > >-Aaron > > > -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D - More News
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > Body + 18-55 lens should be $899. A bit more than I expected, but > still a damn > good price. > > The name is definitely K10D (it was stamped on the body). Any remaining > doubters can relax now. > > That's all I can remember. Have fun! > > John Celi0> Thats all. $900. I was under the impression, and again i'm way off it seems, that the K10D was a big body camera, that would take a run at the D2X, the MK II etc. $900 bucks is pretty cheap for that kind of camera, so again, i'm missing something in the loop here. I was hope ing to buy a Pentax equivalent to the Nikon big bodies i have. Why. Pentax has a much more reliable WB than Nikon as far as i'm concerned, altough the D200 is prett damn close. Dave, the disappointed, Brooks > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D - More News
If the set ISO was visible in the viewfinder at all times it wouldn't be nearly as bad as you make it out to be. It's now a shooting parameter, if you have shutter speed and f stop in the viewfinder you should have current ISO as well. Then the dial makes sense. A push button to change the function of one of the wheels would make more sense, but I figure we'll never see that. Aaron Reynolds wrote: >On Aug 4, 2006, at 8:56 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > > > >>That's the most I want to see on the mode dial on the K10D. >> >> > >I would prefer to see ISO and WB in their current configuration on the >DS2 -- the implementation of both on the D is ass-backwards and >idiotic. Slow as molasses to use when they're up on the dial. > >-Aaron > > > -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Problem with DL USB cable
John Forbes wrote: > He should simply throw away the cable and DL using a card reader. Far > more reliable, and less hassle. Not for me. I prefer using the cable to a card reader (which I have also). Keith McG -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D - More News
Simple Program mode on the D is Hyper Program. I find that much more useful than any number of idiot modes. Aaron Reynolds wrote: >On Aug 4, 2006, at 8:50 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > > > >>No, the D has no idiot modes other than a simple "P" mode. The others >>are manual, aperture priority, shutter priority and hyperprogram. >> >> > >Why do I remember pictograms on the top LCD? Am I thinking of some >other camera? Do they appear in green mode? > >I would think that the idiot modes are far more useful than simple P -- >they give some shape to the program. Of course, I say that having used >neither of them. > >-Aaron > > > > -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GESO: "McKenzie Country"
Stunning. Keith McG David Mann wrote: > Hi all, > > I've recently finished a long-overdue update to my gallery viewer. > On the surface not a lot has changed except a little prettifying, but > I've made some significant changes under-the-hood. > > With all the work I've put into it I really should show a gallery > every now and then, so I've put together some pics of one of my > favourite areas of my country. They are presented in approximate > order of time-of-day, so the sequence progresses from dawn to night. > I think that quite a few of the photos have been shown here before. > > http://www.bluemoon.net.nz/photo/photodb/galleries/view.php?g=32 > > If anything doesn't work let me know... I've tested with most > browsers, so it should work OK even if you have Javascript turned off. > > Cheers, > > - Dave (editing is hard) > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D - More News
Pål Jensen wrote: >Maybe theres a K1D coming as well? Rumors suggest as much. >Anyway, does anyone know if the new telephotos are scheduled for Photokina as >well? The primes are a year away. I think we'll probably see the new USM zooms at Photokina. -- Mark Roberts Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D - More News
On Aug 4, 2006, at 8:50 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > No, the D has no idiot modes other than a simple "P" mode. The others > are manual, aperture priority, shutter priority and hyperprogram. Why do I remember pictograms on the top LCD? Am I thinking of some other camera? Do they appear in green mode? I would think that the idiot modes are far more useful than simple P -- they give some shape to the program. Of course, I say that having used neither of them. -Aaron -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D - More News
On Aug 4, 2006, at 8:56 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > That's the most I want to see on the mode dial on the K10D. I would prefer to see ISO and WB in their current configuration on the DS2 -- the implementation of both on the D is ass-backwards and idiotic. Slow as molasses to use when they're up on the dial. -Aaron -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D - More News
John Celio wrote: >> > >Body + 18-55 lens should be $899. >> > >> > :( >> > I was hoping for a higher-spec'd camera (around 1200-1500 body only). >> > Hope they haven't cheaped out. >> >> Me too. > >What the hell is wrong with you guys? You actually WANT to pay that much? Yes. Every sub-$1000 DSLR I've ever handled (and I think I've handled them all) has fallen far below the standard of equipment I want to buy. -- Mark Roberts Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D - More News
Well, if it delivers on all we were expecting AND sells for $800, it will be a definite coup for Pentax. Paul On Aug 4, 2006, at 8:56 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > That's the most I want to see on the mode dial on the K10D. > > John Francis wrote: > >> No. The mode dial on the D has Green/P/Tv/Av/M/B, plus positions >> for setting ISO, capture mode, and white balance. No preset >> programs. >> >> >> On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 08:09:00PM -0400, Aaron Reynolds wrote: >> >> >>> Paul, does the D not have those presets? I could have sworn that >>> it did. >>> >>> -Aaron >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Subj: Re: K10D - More News >>> Date: Fri Aug 4, 2006 3:50 pm >>> Size: 3K >>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> >>> I hope you're wrong about the preset shooting modes. Or if it >>> does have them, I hope it has a switch for continuous autofocus >>> as well, along with individualwheels for shutter speed and ap. In >>> other words, I hope it's at least as professional in its >>> operating modes as the *ist D. The price is much lower than I >>> expected. That's good news. I think. It makes one wonder if the >>> 645D is going to be a lot less expensive than most are thinking. >>> H. >>> Paul >>> -- Original message -- >>> From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> >>> Damn, it looks to me as if Pentax has decided to add as many "features" to the mix as possible, without asking if these are necessary to the likely target audience. More like, what can we implement "cheaply" to set us apart, and get the bullet point count up. Oh, well. At least we can hope the core operations and build quality will be solid. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Well, I've only actually seen photos of the latest build of it, > courtesy of my > Pentax rep, but at least I've got a little more information for > you to chew > on. The photos were taken this week, so this is about as > current as it gets. > > First off, the magic press-release date is September 13th. > There's still so > much I haven't been able to pry from my rep that I'm dying for > this date to > hurry up and get here! > > Body + 18-55 lens should be $899. A bit more than I expected, > but still a damn > good price. > > The name is definitely K10D (it was stamped on the body). Any > remaining > doubters can relax now. > > Remember in the PMA photos (http://www.dpreview.com/articles/ > pma2006/Pentax/), > that unmarked button that was above the AF switch on the front > of the camera? > It's now marked RAW, and I'm told it allows you to switch the > camera to RAW > mode from jpg mode by pressing and holding the RAW button. I > think I would > have preferred a custom white balance button, but I'm sure this > function will > be useful for people who shoot in jpg mode most of the time. > > The LCD screen is the same as on the K100D: 2.5 ", 210,000 pixels > > The battery grip has the same features as the grip for the > *istD, though I > can't say whether or not it connects to the body in the same way. > > The body is slightly different than the one shown at PMA, > though not by much. > I'd be more specific, but I didn't have much time to really > study the new > images. > > The mode dial on the camera's shoulder now has a lot more on it > than at PMA. I > couldn't see much detail in the images, but the new stuff > looked like the same > sort of preset shooting modes you see on consumer cameras > (sports, portrait, > night scene, etc). > > DOF-preview now functions in a very interesting manner > (apparently it does this > on the K100D, but I didn't know that). Straight out of the > box, when you use > the DOF-preview function, it actually takes a photo and > displays it on the > screen until you press halfway on the shutter button (no, the > photo is not > saved on your memory card). If you want the more standard thru- > the-lens DOF- > preview, you can change that in a custom function menu. > > > That's all I can remember. Have fun! > > John Celio > > > > > -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > -- > When you're worried or in doubt, >
Re: K10D - More News
No, the D has no idiot modes other than a simple "P" mode. The others are manual, aperture priority, shutter priority and hyperprogram. On Aug 4, 2006, at 8:09 PM, Aaron Reynolds wrote: > Paul, does the D not have those presets? I could have sworn that > it did. > > -Aaron > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subj: Re: K10D - More News > Date: Fri Aug 4, 2006 3:50 pm > Size: 3K > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > I hope you're wrong about the preset shooting modes. Or if it does > have them, I hope it has a switch for continuous autofocus as well, > along with individualwheels for shutter speed and ap. In other > words, I hope it's at least as professional in its operating modes > as the *ist D. The price is much lower than I expected. That's good > news. I think. It makes one wonder if the 645D is going to be a lot > less expensive than most are thinking. H. > Paul > -- Original message -- > From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Damn, it looks to me as if Pentax has decided to add as many >> "features" >> to the mix as possible, without asking if these are necessary to the >> likely target audience. More like, what can we implement >> "cheaply" to >> set us apart, and get the bullet point count up. Oh, well. At >> least we >> can hope the core operations and build quality will be solid. >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >>> Well, I've only actually seen photos of the latest build of it, >>> courtesy of my >>> Pentax rep, but at least I've got a little more information for >>> you to chew >>> on. The photos were taken this week, so this is about as current >>> as it gets. >>> >>> First off, the magic press-release date is September 13th. >>> There's still so >>> much I haven't been able to pry from my rep that I'm dying for >>> this date to >>> hurry up and get here! >>> >>> Body + 18-55 lens should be $899. A bit more than I expected, >>> but still a damn >>> good price. >>> >>> The name is definitely K10D (it was stamped on the body). Any >>> remaining >>> doubters can relax now. >>> >>> Remember in the PMA photos (http://www.dpreview.com/articles/ >>> pma2006/Pentax/), >>> that unmarked button that was above the AF switch on the front of >>> the camera? >>> It's now marked RAW, and I'm told it allows you to switch the >>> camera to RAW >>> mode from jpg mode by pressing and holding the RAW button. I >>> think I would >>> have preferred a custom white balance button, but I'm sure this >>> function will >>> be useful for people who shoot in jpg mode most of the time. >>> >>> The LCD screen is the same as on the K100D: 2.5 ", 210,000 pixels >>> >>> The battery grip has the same features as the grip for the *istD, >>> though I >>> can't say whether or not it connects to the body in the same way. >>> >>> The body is slightly different than the one shown at PMA, though >>> not by much. >>> I'd be more specific, but I didn't have much time to really study >>> the new >>> images. >>> >>> The mode dial on the camera's shoulder now has a lot more on it >>> than at PMA. I >>> couldn't see much detail in the images, but the new stuff looked >>> like the same >>> sort of preset shooting modes you see on consumer cameras >>> (sports, portrait, >>> night scene, etc). >>> >>> DOF-preview now functions in a very interesting manner >>> (apparently it does this >>> on the K100D, but I didn't know that). Straight out of the box, >>> when you use >>> the DOF-preview function, it actually takes a photo and displays >>> it on the >>> screen until you press halfway on the shutter button (no, the >>> photo is not >>> saved on your memory card). If you want the more standard thru- >>> the-lens DOF- >>> preview, you can change that in a custom function menu. >>> >>> >>> That's all I can remember. Have fun! >>> >>> John Celio >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> When you're worried or in doubt, >> Run in circles, (scream and shout). >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D - More News
That's the most I want to see on the mode dial on the K10D. John Francis wrote: >No. The mode dial on the D has Green/P/Tv/Av/M/B, plus positions >for setting ISO, capture mode, and white balance. No preset programs. > > >On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 08:09:00PM -0400, Aaron Reynolds wrote: > > >>Paul, does the D not have those presets? I could have sworn that it did. >> >>-Aaron >> >>-Original Message- >> >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Subj: Re: K10D - More News >>Date: Fri Aug 4, 2006 3:50 pm >>Size: 3K >>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> >>I hope you're wrong about the preset shooting modes. Or if it does have them, >>I hope it has a switch for continuous autofocus as well, along with >>individualwheels for shutter speed and ap. In other words, I hope it's at >>least as professional in its operating modes as the *ist D. The price is much >>lower than I expected. That's good news. I think. It makes one wonder if the >>645D is going to be a lot less expensive than most are thinking. H. >>Paul >> -- Original message -- >>From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> >>>Damn, it looks to me as if Pentax has decided to add as many "features" >>>to the mix as possible, without asking if these are necessary to the >>>likely target audience. More like, what can we implement "cheaply" to >>>set us apart, and get the bullet point count up. Oh, well. At least we >>>can hope the core operations and build quality will be solid. >>> >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> >>> >>> Well, I've only actually seen photos of the latest build of it, courtesy of my Pentax rep, but at least I've got a little more information for you to chew on. The photos were taken this week, so this is about as current as it gets. First off, the magic press-release date is September 13th. There's still so much I haven't been able to pry from my rep that I'm dying for this date to hurry up and get here! Body + 18-55 lens should be $899. A bit more than I expected, but still a damn good price. The name is definitely K10D (it was stamped on the body). Any remaining doubters can relax now. Remember in the PMA photos (http://www.dpreview.com/articles/pma2006/Pentax/), that unmarked button that was above the AF switch on the front of the camera? It's now marked RAW, and I'm told it allows you to switch the camera to RAW mode from jpg mode by pressing and holding the RAW button. I think I would have preferred a custom white balance button, but I'm sure this function will be useful for people who shoot in jpg mode most of the time. The LCD screen is the same as on the K100D: 2.5 ", 210,000 pixels The battery grip has the same features as the grip for the *istD, though I can't say whether or not it connects to the body in the same way. The body is slightly different than the one shown at PMA, though not by much. I'd be more specific, but I didn't have much time to really study the new images. The mode dial on the camera's shoulder now has a lot more on it than at PMA. I couldn't see much detail in the images, but the new stuff looked like the same sort of preset shooting modes you see on consumer cameras (sports, portrait, night scene, etc). DOF-preview now functions in a very interesting manner (apparently it does this on the K100D, but I didn't know that). Straight out of the box, when you use the DOF-preview function, it actually takes a photo and displays it on the screen until you press halfway on the shutter button (no, the photo is not saved on your memory card). If you want the more standard thru-the-lens DOF- preview, you can change that in a custom function menu. That's all I can remember. Have fun! John Celio >>>-- >>>When you're worried or in doubt, >>> Run in circles, (scream and shout). >>> >>> >>>-- >>>PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>PDML@pdml.net >>>http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> >>> >> >>-- >>PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>PDML@pdml.net >>http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> >> >>-- >>PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>PDML@pdml.net >>http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> >> > > > -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Some images...
John wrote: Some stunning stuff there, Pål. I can't imagine my having the dedication to go to the top of a Norwegian mountain in winter to take photos! REPLY: Actually, all the mountain photos are taken in mid summer. I do not like winter. I have precious few winter photos except the Auroras that are all shot right outside the car door! Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D - More News
On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 05:04:23PM -0700, John Celio wrote: > > Who ever told you anything about faster AF or buffer? Those details haven't > been revealed to anyone yet, probably including my Pentax rep! See my reply to Aaron. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D - More News
No. The mode dial on the D has Green/P/Tv/Av/M/B, plus positions for setting ISO, capture mode, and white balance. No preset programs. On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 08:09:00PM -0400, Aaron Reynolds wrote: > Paul, does the D not have those presets? I could have sworn that it did. > > -Aaron > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subj: Re: K10D - More News > Date: Fri Aug 4, 2006 3:50 pm > Size: 3K > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > I hope you're wrong about the preset shooting modes. Or if it does have them, > I hope it has a switch for continuous autofocus as well, along with > individualwheels for shutter speed and ap. In other words, I hope it's at > least as professional in its operating modes as the *ist D. The price is much > lower than I expected. That's good news. I think. It makes one wonder if the > 645D is going to be a lot less expensive than most are thinking. H. > Paul > -- Original message -- > From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Damn, it looks to me as if Pentax has decided to add as many "features" > > to the mix as possible, without asking if these are necessary to the > > likely target audience. More like, what can we implement "cheaply" to > > set us apart, and get the bullet point count up. Oh, well. At least we > > can hope the core operations and build quality will be solid. > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > >Well, I've only actually seen photos of the latest build of it, courtesy > > >of my > > >Pentax rep, but at least I've got a little more information for you to > > >chew > > >on. The photos were taken this week, so this is about as current as it > > >gets. > > > > > >First off, the magic press-release date is September 13th. There's still > > >so > > >much I haven't been able to pry from my rep that I'm dying for this date > > >to > > >hurry up and get here! > > > > > >Body + 18-55 lens should be $899. A bit more than I expected, but still a > > >damn > > >good price. > > > > > >The name is definitely K10D (it was stamped on the body). Any remaining > > >doubters can relax now. > > > > > >Remember in the PMA photos > > >(http://www.dpreview.com/articles/pma2006/Pentax/), > > >that unmarked button that was above the AF switch on the front of the > > >camera? > > >It's now marked RAW, and I'm told it allows you to switch the camera to > > >RAW > > >mode from jpg mode by pressing and holding the RAW button. I think I > > >would > > >have preferred a custom white balance button, but I'm sure this function > > >will > > >be useful for people who shoot in jpg mode most of the time. > > > > > >The LCD screen is the same as on the K100D: 2.5 ", 210,000 pixels > > > > > >The battery grip has the same features as the grip for the *istD, though I > > >can't say whether or not it connects to the body in the same way. > > > > > >The body is slightly different than the one shown at PMA, though not by > > >much. > > >I'd be more specific, but I didn't have much time to really study the new > > >images. > > > > > >The mode dial on the camera's shoulder now has a lot more on it than at > > >PMA. I > > >couldn't see much detail in the images, but the new stuff looked like the > > >same > > >sort of preset shooting modes you see on consumer cameras (sports, > > >portrait, > > >night scene, etc). > > > > > >DOF-preview now functions in a very interesting manner (apparently it does > > >this > > >on the K100D, but I didn't know that). Straight out of the box, when you > > >use > > >the DOF-preview function, it actually takes a photo and displays it on the > > >screen until you press halfway on the shutter button (no, the photo is not > > >saved on your memory card). If you want the more standard thru-the-lens > > >DOF- > > >preview, you can change that in a custom function menu. > > > > > > > > >That's all I can remember. Have fun! > > > > > >John Celio > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > When you're worried or in doubt, > > Run in circles, (scream and shout). > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Some images...
Bob wrote: I can see exactly why you've recommended Galen Rowell so many times - they are very good examples of his 'school', so to speak. REPLY: I've learned from Galen Rowell to chase the light. Only two of the images are "found" images - the insect and the Redwing. The rest are all previsualized to a larger or lesser extent. Theres no coincidence that I happened to be on mountaintops when the fog comes in at midnight! The red fox is the 12th attempt of photographing this animal! Of 20 trips to its den only about 50% of the times did it show up at all (often after 3 hours waiting). I only got two good pictures of it. The last picture of the aurora I had framed the scene and waited for 4 hours before something happened at the sky above the mountain. The mountain is lit by the full moon. The intense colours is more a function of light than the film. In fact, six of the images is not shot on Velvia at all; they are shot on Kodachrome 25, Ektachrome 100, Fujichrome Provia 100F and Fujichrome 400F (at 800ISO). My bet is that the viewer cannot tell which is which. And no, I haven't boosted saturation in photoshop. Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D - More News
It was something to the effect that the forthcoming camera would have all those features the advanced photographer expects; fast AF, high frame rate, battery grip, PC socket, dust-resistance, etc. I believe the original posting to PDML was a translation from a Japanese source, so it was probably from Ken Takeshita. On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 08:07:00PM -0400, Aaron Reynolds wrote: > I missed anything about AF -- what did he say about it? > > -Aaron > > -Original Message- > > From: John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subj: Re: K10D - More News > Date: Fri Aug 4, 2006 7:55 pm > Size: 1K > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > > Actually, expectations for those features I mentioned come from the > interview with a Pentax high-up at one of the (Japanese?) trade shows. > Obviously it's still rumour until we see the official press release, > but it's based on a lot more than just wild internet speculation. > > > On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 05:55:00PM -0400, Aaron Reynolds wrote: > > "things we were led to expect" -- heh, make sure to direct your unhappiness > > at the folks on the internet fuelling the rumormill and not at Pentax, who > > have gone out of their way not to tell us anything. > > > > -Aaron > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subj: Re: K10D - More News > > Date: Fri Aug 4, 2006 5:50 pm > > Size: 648 bytes > > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > > > On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 05:13:27PM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > >Body + 18-55 lens should be $899. > > > > > > :( > > > I was hoping for a higher-spec'd camera (around 1200-1500 body only). > > > Hope they haven't cheaped out. > > > > Me too. Obviously the less the camera costs the more money is left > > over for other things like lenses, but I hope that didn't come at the > > expense of the other features we were led to expect - much faster AF, > > and a large buffer (and a good frame rate). > > > > Still, we'll know for sure in a little over a month. > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D - More News
- Original Message - From: "Aaron Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >I missed anything about AF -- what did he say about it? Better AF performance and an evolution of the K-mount. It is generally interpreted as meaning USM. Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D - More News
> > >Body + 18-55 lens should be $899. > > > > :( > > I was hoping for a higher-spec'd camera (around 1200-1500 body only). > > Hope they haven't cheaped out. > > Me too. What the hell is wrong with you guys? You actually WANT to pay that much? > expense of the other features we were led to expect - much faster AF, > and a large buffer (and a good frame rate). Who ever told you anything about faster AF or buffer? Those details haven't been revealed to anyone yet, probably including my Pentax rep! Be patient. All will be revealed in time. John Celio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D - More News
Paul, does the D not have those presets? I could have sworn that it did. -Aaron -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: Re: K10D - More News Date: Fri Aug 4, 2006 3:50 pm Size: 3K To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List I hope you're wrong about the preset shooting modes. Or if it does have them, I hope it has a switch for continuous autofocus as well, along with individualwheels for shutter speed and ap. In other words, I hope it's at least as professional in its operating modes as the *ist D. The price is much lower than I expected. That's good news. I think. It makes one wonder if the 645D is going to be a lot less expensive than most are thinking. H. Paul -- Original message -- From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Damn, it looks to me as if Pentax has decided to add as many "features" > to the mix as possible, without asking if these are necessary to the > likely target audience. More like, what can we implement "cheaply" to > set us apart, and get the bullet point count up. Oh, well. At least we > can hope the core operations and build quality will be solid. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >Well, I've only actually seen photos of the latest build of it, courtesy of > >my > >Pentax rep, but at least I've got a little more information for you to chew > >on. The photos were taken this week, so this is about as current as it gets. > > > >First off, the magic press-release date is September 13th. There's still so > >much I haven't been able to pry from my rep that I'm dying for this date to > >hurry up and get here! > > > >Body + 18-55 lens should be $899. A bit more than I expected, but still a > >damn > >good price. > > > >The name is definitely K10D (it was stamped on the body). Any remaining > >doubters can relax now. > > > >Remember in the PMA photos > >(http://www.dpreview.com/articles/pma2006/Pentax/), > >that unmarked button that was above the AF switch on the front of the > >camera? > >It's now marked RAW, and I'm told it allows you to switch the camera to RAW > >mode from jpg mode by pressing and holding the RAW button. I think I would > >have preferred a custom white balance button, but I'm sure this function > >will > >be useful for people who shoot in jpg mode most of the time. > > > >The LCD screen is the same as on the K100D: 2.5 ", 210,000 pixels > > > >The battery grip has the same features as the grip for the *istD, though I > >can't say whether or not it connects to the body in the same way. > > > >The body is slightly different than the one shown at PMA, though not by > >much. > >I'd be more specific, but I didn't have much time to really study the new > >images. > > > >The mode dial on the camera's shoulder now has a lot more on it than at PMA. > > I > >couldn't see much detail in the images, but the new stuff looked like the > >same > >sort of preset shooting modes you see on consumer cameras (sports, portrait, > >night scene, etc). > > > >DOF-preview now functions in a very interesting manner (apparently it does > >this > >on the K100D, but I didn't know that). Straight out of the box, when you > >use > >the DOF-preview function, it actually takes a photo and displays it on the > >screen until you press halfway on the shutter button (no, the photo is not > >saved on your memory card). If you want the more standard thru-the-lens DOF- > >preview, you can change that in a custom function menu. > > > > > >That's all I can remember. Have fun! > > > >John Celio > > > > > > > > > -- > When you're worried or in doubt, > Run in circles, (scream and shout). > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D - More News
I missed anything about AF -- what did he say about it? -Aaron -Original Message- From: John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subj: Re: K10D - More News Date: Fri Aug 4, 2006 7:55 pm Size: 1K To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Actually, expectations for those features I mentioned come from the interview with a Pentax high-up at one of the (Japanese?) trade shows. Obviously it's still rumour until we see the official press release, but it's based on a lot more than just wild internet speculation. On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 05:55:00PM -0400, Aaron Reynolds wrote: > "things we were led to expect" -- heh, make sure to direct your unhappiness > at the folks on the internet fuelling the rumormill and not at Pentax, who > have gone out of their way not to tell us anything. > > -Aaron > > -Original Message- > > From: John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subj: Re: K10D - More News > Date: Fri Aug 4, 2006 5:50 pm > Size: 648 bytes > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 05:13:27PM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > >Body + 18-55 lens should be $899. > > > > :( > > I was hoping for a higher-spec'd camera (around 1200-1500 body only). > > Hope they haven't cheaped out. > > Me too. Obviously the less the camera costs the more money is left > over for other things like lenses, but I hope that didn't come at the > expense of the other features we were led to expect - much faster AF, > and a large buffer (and a good frame rate). > > Still, we'll know for sure in a little over a month. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D - More News
Actually, expectations for those features I mentioned come from the interview with a Pentax high-up at one of the (Japanese?) trade shows. Obviously it's still rumour until we see the official press release, but it's based on a lot more than just wild internet speculation. On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 05:55:00PM -0400, Aaron Reynolds wrote: > "things we were led to expect" -- heh, make sure to direct your unhappiness > at the folks on the internet fuelling the rumormill and not at Pentax, who > have gone out of their way not to tell us anything. > > -Aaron > > -Original Message- > > From: John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subj: Re: K10D - More News > Date: Fri Aug 4, 2006 5:50 pm > Size: 648 bytes > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 05:13:27PM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > >Body + 18-55 lens should be $899. > > > > :( > > I was hoping for a higher-spec'd camera (around 1200-1500 body only). > > Hope they haven't cheaped out. > > Me too. Obviously the less the camera costs the more money is left > over for other things like lenses, but I hope that didn't come at the > expense of the other features we were led to expect - much faster AF, > and a large buffer (and a good frame rate). > > Still, we'll know for sure in a little over a month. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D - More News
- Original Message - From: "Thibouille" Subject: Re: K10D - More News > I have to say that checking DOF at f/16-32 is a pain. So it may be > useful to some of us, who knows?. Checking depth of field at those f stops is a fools game. Depth of field preview is most useful at medium f stops where you are trying to control it, not at small f stops where you just want as much as you can get. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PUG is dying?
> "getting off our posteriors to put things up. " > > and I'd just like to point it out to Mark... Your posterior??? Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "Bob W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: PUG is dying? > Ann wrote: > > "getting off our posteriors to put things up. " > > and I'd just like to point it out to Mark... > > -- > Cheers, > Bob > >> > >> John - >> skimming the lists mail today I didn't find the reply to the >> above I thought I had written. >> Glad you liked my shot - it was one that immediately jumped >> into my mind to use for this >> theme and I was actually able to find it quickly ;) >> >> I think the subject and the cheer-leading both were factors >> to our getting off our >> posteriors to put things up. Dag's was probably my fave, >> too btw... but there were >> lots of goodies. >> >> ann > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Some images...
Pål, outstanding images of a beautiful country. Evan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Some images...
>Of course, they sell images of what we want nature to look like, not how it >really is .-) No. I believe they sell images that the consumer wants. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "DagT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Some images... Of course, they sell images of what we want nature to look like, not how it really is .-) We don't want reminders, we want dreams. DagT > Fra: "Kenneth Waller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > But velvia never did have anything to do with reality anyway .-) > > Yeah, so I guess that explains why it was the choice of most outdoor > pros.. > > Kenneth Waller > > - Original Message - > From: "DagT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Some images... > > > Nice... > > But velvia never did have anything to do with reality anyway .-) > > DagT > > Den 3. aug. 2006 kl. 16.20 skrev Pål Jensen: > > > I've put up about 20 images as a portfolio at Photo.net. > > Almost all of them are taken a few km from home, which is in Northern > > Norway. Most are taken at night! > > > > the link: > > > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/member-photos?user_id=266609 > > > > > > Any coments are welcomed. > > > > Pål > > > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > DagT > http://dag.foto.no > > Beware of internet links. You never know what is on the other side. > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D - More News
Pål Jensen wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "John Francis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >>On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 05:13:27PM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote: >> >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> >>> Body + 18-55 lens should be $899. >>> >>>:( >>>I was hoping for a higher-spec'd camera (around 1200-1500 body only). >>>Hope they haven't cheaped out. >> >>Me too. Obviously the less the camera costs the more money is left >>over for other things like lenses, but I hope that didn't come at the >>expense of the other features we were led to expect - much faster AF, >>and a large buffer (and a good frame rate). >> >>Still, we'll know for sure in a little over a month. > > > > Maybe theres a K1D coming as well? Anyway, does anyone know if the new > telephotos are scheduled for Photokina as well? > > Pål > > > You're K1Dding! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Polar Pivot
They're incredibly quick. Had no Idea what I might have gotten, and felt some guilty luck when this slide was checked. Thanks! Jack --- keith_w <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jack Davis wrote: > > My earlier Chipmunk Flare upload didn't incite a lot of activity, > but I > > stubbornly press on. > > I really liked that stop-action shot of the Chipmunk! > Those guys are masters of the ultra quick reaction... > You can almost see the smoke of the braking action and push off! > > > Here's another kind of unusual critter pic. > > Shot a Sacramento's Land Park Zoo, a few hot summers back. > > I watched him/her dive into the pool and come up spinning off the > > water. Finally decided I'd try to catch the action. > > I'd have said Polar Bear, but it seems the snout is too long... > Anyhow, good shot. > I"d have got a big kick out of seeing it happen in person! > > > A*300 f2.8, LX on sturdy tripod. Film unknown at this moment. > > > > Pls let me know if this or other of my files are difficult to > handle. > > Thanks. > > > > Jack > > > > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=160 > > keith whaley > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Polar Pivot
I understand that "corroding carabiners" is one of a climber's worst fears. You would have liked a greater sense of motion? I hoped for frozen water droplets. Guess as they say, I should be careful of what I wish for. :) Appreciate it! Jack --- "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry, missed that one originally, I started reading about > Flashbulbs > with Digital Cameras and somehow got side tracked into corroding > carabiners... > > I like the first one. I'm not too sure about this one. It's very > surreal, maybe, not over sharpened, but too sharp for the subject > matter? I don't know. Still a very good capture. > > Jack Davis wrote: > > >My earlier Chipmunk Flare upload didn't incite a lot of activity, > but I > >stubbornly press on. Here's another kind of unusual critter pic. > >Shot a Sacramento's Land Park Zoo, a few hot summers back. > >I watched him/her dive into the pool and come up spinning off the > >water. Finally decided I'd try to catch the action. > >A*300 f2.8, LX on sturdy tripod. Film unknown at this moment. > > > >Pls let me know if this or other of my files are difficult to > handle. > >Thanks. > > > >Jack > > > >http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=160 > > > >__ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > >http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > -- > When you're worried or in doubt, > Run in circles, (scream and shout). > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D - More News
On Aug 4, 2006, at 2:09 PM, keith_w wrote: > P. J. Alling wrote: >> I'm not complaining, just pointing out that it just adds to the >> feature >> list. The length of the manual explaining all the features in the >> *ist-Ds sent Ann running back to a Canon ZLR when she rightfully >> belongs >> in the Pentax fold. I wonder how many other people are more >> intimidated than enticed by huge numbers of features. > > Count me in! > (Hi Ann!) > > keith whaley > > I'm the same way when it comes to late model cell phones. > Can't I just get one that reliably reaches wherever I want to call, > and > doesn't dump me half way thru? > Can't I get one that doesn't have a digicam, a calendar, a set of > board games > included, multiple wallpaper screens, WiFi, a choice of 2 dozen > ring tones? > Just a damned phone, please? > Phat chance... 'just a damned phone' doesn't sell. I want a better phone, not just a damned one. The key is to get one with a good user interface that makes it easy to figure out and use the capabilities. That's what I like about my Treo 650. I've figured out everything it can do and I have yet to open a manual. And it can do a lot. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D - More News
You forgot "duck and get under", and "duck 'n roll". What the hell is a "server". (no, not the one in my dinning room, in a restaurant, on the tennis court or the guy with a handful of 'processes'. Thanks? Jack --- Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Any practical help appreciated. > > > >Jack > > In the event of an actual nuclear missle attack, Tuck head between > legs, > count to 10, kiss your *ss goodbye. > > Take two aspirin, go to bed, and call me in the morning. > > A stitch in time saves nine. > > Tom C. > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D - More News
> >It's the feature I found annoying, once I got over the "wow" factor. >(Can't remember if that was 5 or 20ms) It's useless in daylight. > > In this case I have to state the obvious. When shooting at small aperture or in dim lighting conditions, the DOFP shown on the screem s/b a useful feature for those who have trouble seeing DOF changes in a dim tiny viewfinder. On the other hand, when shooting in bright light when the screen might get washed out, DOFP through the viewfinder has it covered. Seems like a best of both worlds scenario to me. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Some images...
Many thanks to all of you for all your nice comments! Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PDML Digest, Vol 4, Issue 33
I reda this somewhere about the K100D: "The digital preview is not very usefal as it cannot be enlarged and the histogram cannot be shown." It sounds incredible, and hopefully is. Bertil 4 aug 2006 kl. 23:04 skrev [EMAIL PROTECTED]: >> Not making a major issue of it, but the screen is a good 5 times >> the size of >> the viewfinder, plus one can zoom in on the part of the image they >> wish to >> inspect... I can see it being useful (though I would easily have >> traded 2 >> more megapixels for the feature). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D - More News
"things we were led to expect" -- heh, make sure to direct your unhappiness at the folks on the internet fuelling the rumormill and not at Pentax, who have gone out of their way not to tell us anything. -Aaron -Original Message- From: John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subj: Re: K10D - More News Date: Fri Aug 4, 2006 5:50 pm Size: 648 bytes To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 05:13:27PM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >Body + 18-55 lens should be $899. > > :( > I was hoping for a higher-spec'd camera (around 1200-1500 body only). > Hope they haven't cheaped out. Me too. Obviously the less the camera costs the more money is left over for other things like lenses, but I hope that didn't come at the expense of the other features we were led to expect - much faster AF, and a large buffer (and a good frame rate). Still, we'll know for sure in a little over a month. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D - More News
- Original Message - From: "John Francis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 05:13:27PM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> >Body + 18-55 lens should be $899. >> >> :( >> I was hoping for a higher-spec'd camera (around 1200-1500 body only). >> Hope they haven't cheaped out. > > Me too. Obviously the less the camera costs the more money is left > over for other things like lenses, but I hope that didn't come at the > expense of the other features we were led to expect - much faster AF, > and a large buffer (and a good frame rate). > > Still, we'll know for sure in a little over a month. Maybe theres a K1D coming as well? Anyway, does anyone know if the new telephotos are scheduled for Photokina as well? Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Chipmunk Flare
Thanks, P.J., I didn't have my 1.4L T/C at the time and would only have been of moderate help at that. Would have loved to have been able to pull up this critter, but as I said in my conveying email, this frame is VERY heavily cropped. If I had included less of the surrounding area, the Chipmunk would have been too small and grainy unless I'd put up a smaller image. Guess I could have done that. I only offer it for sale as an maximun of 8x10 and hat's pushing it. Thanks, again for comments. Jack --- "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You could have cropped a little tighter on the chipmunk but other > than > that it's a great little capture. Looks like it should be on the > cover > of "Chipmunk Times". (Yes, I know I'm asking for it). > > Jack Davis wrote: > > >This is all about a cute accident. > >At Bryce Canyon, UT, several years back, my wife was 'playing' with > a > >chipmunk by placing bits of Ritz crackers on a pine root. (Probably > a > >Chipmunk nutritional NO NO). > >It would dart out and promptly vaporize. I took a few shots and, > when > >processed, was surprised by this reminder of the gymnastic floor > >exercise move known as a "flare". Hence, the title. > >This image is an extremely small part of the frame and not quite a > >solid freeze. > > > >Jack > > > >Comments welcome > > > >http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=158 > > > >__ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > >http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > -- > When you're worried or in doubt, > Run in circles, (scream and shout). > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D - More News
On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 05:13:27PM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >Body + 18-55 lens should be $899. > > :( > I was hoping for a higher-spec'd camera (around 1200-1500 body only). > Hope they haven't cheaped out. Me too. Obviously the less the camera costs the more money is left over for other things like lenses, but I hope that didn't come at the expense of the other features we were led to expect - much faster AF, and a large buffer (and a good frame rate). Still, we'll know for sure in a little over a month. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D - More News
> I hope you're wrong about the preset shooting modes. Or if it does have them, > I hope it has a switch for continuous autofocus as well, along with > individualwheels for shutter speed and ap. In other words, I hope it's at > least as professional in its operating modes as the *ist D. The price is much > lower than I expected. That's good news. I think. It makes one wonder if the > 645D is going to be a lot less expensive than most are thinking. H. If you looked at the photos in the link from my original post, you'd have seen there is indeed a switch for singleAF/continuousAF/MF, as well as shutter speed and aperture wheels on the front and back of the body (like the *ist D). The preset shooting modes on most cameras aren't usually a bad thing, by the way. They allow more people to get into a camera they might not normally be skilled enough to use. As we all know, Pentax could use as many buyers as possible right now. Honestly, sometimes I wish my D had some of those modes, if only for those times when I'm too tired to think straight. As for the 645D, I wouldn't hold your breath. I don't have any information one way or another, but since this is a first for Pentax, I think it's a safe bet that it's going to be relatively expensive, and that successive models will be cheaper (like the *istDS compared to the *istD). This is, of course, only speculation. John Celio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Sigma solves flash issues with K100D
Because Sigma doesnt buy license and do only reverse-engineer other's stuff. Maybe Tamron/Tokina do buy a license ? 2006/8/4, Carlos Royo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Jaume Lahuerta wrote: > > Sorry if this has been already mentioned. > > > > Concerning Sigma EF-500 DG Super and EF-500 DG ST > > > > It says that Sigma offers a free upgrade on the > > flashes. > > > > That's the main reason I shy away from Sigma products. I have seen their > compatibility problems before, and not only with Pentax. On the other > hand, I've had Tokina and Tamron AF lenses and haven't experienced any > problems. > > Carlos > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > -- -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SFXn,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D - More News
P. J. Alling wrote: > I'm not complaining, just pointing out that it just adds to the feature > list. The length of the manual explaining all the features in the > *ist-Ds sent Ann running back to a Canon ZLR when she rightfully belongs > in the Pentax fold. I wonder how many other people are more > intimidated than enticed by huge numbers of features. Count me in! (Hi Ann!) keith whaley I'm the same way when it comes to late model cell phones. Can't I just get one that reliably reaches wherever I want to call, and doesn't dump me half way thru? Can't I get one that doesn't have a digicam, a calendar, a set of board games included, multiple wallpaper screens, WiFi, a choice of 2 dozen ring tones? Just a damned phone, please? Phat chance... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D - More News
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Body + 18-55 lens should be $899. :( I was hoping for a higher-spec'd camera (around 1200-1500 body only). Hope they haven't cheaped out. -- Mark Roberts Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D - More News
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > On Aug 4, 2006, at 1:07 PM, mike wilson wrote: > >>>DOF-preview now functions in a very interesting manner (apparently >>>it does this >>>on the K100D, but I didn't know that). Straight out of the box, >>>when you use >>>the DOF-preview function, it actually takes a photo and displays >>>it on the >>>screen until you press halfway on the shutter button (no, the >>>photo is not >>>saved on your memory card). If you want the more standard thru- >>>the-lens DOF- >>>preview, you can change that in a custom function menu. >> >>DL/2 did this, also. Bloody annoying. > > > Can't see as I'd find making one CF setting, once, annoying. It's the feature I found annoying, once I got over the "wow" factor. (Can't remember if that was 5 or 20ms) It's useless in daylight. > > Personally, I think it's a neat feature and useful for when you're > working out the correct focus zone. You can make a choice, capture a > preview image and zoom it to max magnification to check the focus > zone, change the setting, etc . > > No one I know uses DOF preview in dynamic situations, this lets you > see the image properly exposed in review so you can determine whether > you have your settings correct. Once you know that, you just shoot. > > Godfrey > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Polar Pivot
Jack Davis wrote: > My earlier Chipmunk Flare upload didn't incite a lot of activity, but I > stubbornly press on. I really liked that stop-action shot of the Chipmunk! Those guys are masters of the ultra quick reaction... You can almost see the smoke of the braking action and push off! > Here's another kind of unusual critter pic. > Shot a Sacramento's Land Park Zoo, a few hot summers back. > I watched him/her dive into the pool and come up spinning off the > water. Finally decided I'd try to catch the action. I'd have said Polar Bear, but it seems the snout is too long... Anyhow, good shot. I"d have got a big kick out of seeing it happen in person! > A*300 f2.8, LX on sturdy tripod. Film unknown at this moment. > > Pls let me know if this or other of my files are difficult to handle. > Thanks. > > Jack > > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=160 keith whaley -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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IMO it is better than not having it. For most people (I mean newbies and all "normal" people;) it will easier to understand and use. I have to say that checking DOF at f/16-32 is a pain. So it may be useful to some of us, who knows?. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SFXn,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Tom C wrote: > Not making a major issue of it, but the screen is a good 5 times the size of > the viewfinder, plus one can zoom in on the part of the image they wish to > inspect... I can see it being useful (though I would easily have traded 2 > more megapixels for the feature). > > Tom C. > > "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or > numbered." The screen is also pretty much useless in bright daylight. > > > > > >>From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>Subject: Re: K10D - More News >>Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 16:12:41 -0400 >> >>Unfortunately the rear screen DOFP is the same as taking a photograph >>you can't save. Not to mention the fact that the resolution on the rear >>screen isn't really high enough to make a good determination of DOF >>anyway. I personally think that it's a useless feature. I know some >>will disagree. >> >>Tom C wrote: >> >> >>>I like the on-screen DOFP. Often hard to get a good feeling in low light >>>through the viewfinder. >>> >>>Tom C. >>> >>>"I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or >>>numbered." >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K10D - More News Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 15:51:53 -0400 Damn, it looks to me as if Pentax has decided to add as many "features" to the mix as possible, without asking if these are necessary to the likely target audience. More like, what can we implement "cheaply" to set us apart, and get the bullet point count up. Oh, well. At least we can hope the core operations and build quality will be solid. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Well, I've only actually seen photos of the latest build of it, >> >>courtesy >> > of my >Pentax rep, but at least I've got a little more information for you to > > chew >on. The photos were taken this week, so this is about as current as it > > gets. >First off, the magic press-release date is September 13th. There's >> >>still >> > so >much I haven't been able to pry from my rep that I'm dying for this >> >>date >> > to >hurry up and get here! > >Body + 18-55 lens should be $899. A bit more than I expected, but >> >>still >> > a damn >good price. > >The name is definitely K10D (it was stamped on the body). Any remaining >doubters can relax now. > >Remember in the PMA photos > > (http://www.dpreview.com/articles/pma2006/Pentax/), >that unmarked button that was above the AF switch on the front of the > > camera? >It's now marked RAW, and I'm told it allows you to switch the camera to > > RAW >mode from jpg mode by pressing and holding the RAW button. I think I > > would >have preferred a custom white balance button, but I'm sure this >> >>function >> > will >be useful for people who shoot in jpg mode most of the time. > >The LCD screen is the same as on the K100D: 2.5 ", 210,000 pixels > >The battery grip has the same features as the grip for the *istD, >> >>though >> > I >can't say whether or not it connects to the body in the same way. > >The body is slightly different than the one shown at PMA, though not by > > much. >I'd be more specific, but I didn't have much time to really study the >> >>new >> >images. > >The mode dial on the camera's shoulder now has a lot more on it than at > > PMA. I >couldn't see much detail in the images, but the new stuff looked like >> >>the >> > same >sort of preset shooting modes you see on consumer cameras (sports, > > portrait, >night scene, etc). > >DOF-preview now functions in a very interesting manner (apparently it > > does this >on the K100D, but I didn't know that). Straight out of the box, when >> >>you >> > use >the DOF-preview function, it actually takes a photo and displays it on > > the >screen until you press halfway on the shutter button (no, the photo is > > not >saved on your memory card). If you want the more standard >> >>thru-the-lens >> > DOF- >preview, you can change that in a custom function menu. > > >That's all I can remember. Have fun! > >John Celio > > -- PDML
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I'm not complaining, just pointing out that it just adds to the feature list. The length of the manual explaining all the features in the *ist-Ds sent Ann running back to a Canon ZLR when she rightfully belongs in the Pentax fold. I wonder how many other people are more intimidated than enticed by huge numbers of features. Aaron Reynolds wrote: >I also will not use this feature -- but since a simple change to a preference >setting will cause the switch to behave as a regular DOF preview, just like on >the old bodies, >I see no reason to complain about it. > >-Aaron > >-Original Message- > >From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subj: Re: K10D - More News >Date: Fri Aug 4, 2006 4:07 pm >Size: 4K >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >Unfortunately the rear screen DOFP is the same as taking a photograph >you can't save. Not to mention the fact that the resolution on the rear >screen isn't really high enough to make a good determination of DOF >anyway. I personally think that it's a useless feature. I know some >will disagree. > >Tom C wrote: > > > >>I like the on-screen DOFP. Often hard to get a good feeling in low light >>through the viewfinder. >> >>Tom C. >> >>"I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or >>numbered." >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>Subject: Re: K10D - More News >>>Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 15:51:53 -0400 >>> >>>Damn, it looks to me as if Pentax has decided to add as many "features" >>>to the mix as possible, without asking if these are necessary to the >>>likely target audience. More like, what can we implement "cheaply" to >>>set us apart, and get the bullet point count up. Oh, well. At least we >>>can hope the core operations and build quality will be solid. >>> >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Well, I've only actually seen photos of the latest build of it, courtesy >>>of my >>> >>> >>> >>> Pentax rep, but at least I've got a little more information for you to >>>chew >>> >>> >>> >>> on. The photos were taken this week, so this is about as current as it >>>gets. >>> >>> >>> >>> First off, the magic press-release date is September 13th. There's still >>>so >>> >>> >>> >>> much I haven't been able to pry from my rep that I'm dying for this date >>>to >>> >>> >>> >>> hurry up and get here! Body + 18-55 lens should be $899. A bit more than I expected, but still >>>a damn >>> >>> >>> >>> good price. The name is definitely K10D (it was stamped on the body). Any remaining doubters can relax now. Remember in the PMA photos >>>(http://www.dpreview.com/articles/pma2006/Pentax/), >>> >>> >>> >>> that unmarked button that was above the AF switch on the front of the >>>camera? >>> >>> >>> >>> It's now marked RAW, and I'm told it allows you to switch the camera to >>>RAW >>> >>> >>> >>> mode from jpg mode by pressing and holding the RAW button. I think I >>>would >>> >>> >>> >>> have preferred a custom white balance button, but I'm sure this function >>>will >>> >>> >>> >>> be useful for people who shoot in jpg mode most of the time. The LCD screen is the same as on the K100D: 2.5 ", 210,000 pixels The battery grip has the same features as the grip for the *istD, though >>>I >>> >>> >>> >>> can't say whether or not it connects to the body in the same way. The body is slightly different than the one shown at PMA, though not by >>>much. >>> >>> >>> >>> I'd be more specific, but I didn't have much time to really study the new images. The mode dial on the camera's shoulder now has a lot more on it than at >>>PMA. I >>> >>> >>> >>> couldn't see much detail in the images, but the new stuff looked like the >>>same >>> >>> >>> >>> sort of preset shooting modes you see on consumer cameras (sports, >>>portrait, >>> >>> >>> >>> night scene, etc). DOF-preview now functions in a very interesting manner (apparently it >>>does this >>> >>> >>> >>> on the K100D, but I didn't know that). Straight out of the box, when you
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So your experience is different. I don't have a problem seeing the effect of the DOF lever in the viewfinder, I don't see a difference in focus on the rear viewer unless the focus is way off. I know a couple of people who can't separate the darkening of the image from the apparent change in image focus. No matter how many times I explain it to them. It's not a fault, I haven't figured out if it's a mental block or a vision problem, I certainly don't think any less of them because of it. I suppose for some people, and in some circumstances the DOFP would work. It still only works on static shots. Since the optical DOF works better for me I still think it's mostly silly, an attempt to have a feature that looks in print like the Olydak live preview, even though it isn't. Aaron Reynolds wrote: >Really? I set my first zoom step to 4x on the DS2 and find the image at that >size to be a perfectly good size for judging focus -- and I do it a lot, >shooting wide-open with a 400mm 2.8, which gives the tiniest sliver of >in-focus image. > >-Aaron > >-Original Message- > >From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subj: Re: K10D - More News >Date: Fri Aug 4, 2006 4:23 pm >Size: 6K >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > From my experience, I've taken shots that I was sure I'd missed the >focus on, and reviewed them on the rear screen of my *ist-Ds, not as big >as the new K series but close, and breathed a sigh of relief thinking >they were salvageable. They weren't. Everything looks sharp at that >resolution, if you get the focus even close. It's not the size of the >screen, it's the pixels displayed that tells the story. > >Tom C wrote: > > > >>Not making a major issue of it, but the screen is a good 5 times the size of >>the viewfinder, plus one can zoom in on the part of the image they wish to >>inspect... I can see it being useful (though I would easily have traded 2 >>more megapixels for the feature). >> >>Tom C. >> >>"I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or >>numbered." >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>Subject: Re: K10D - More News >>>Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 16:12:41 -0400 >>> >>>Unfortunately the rear screen DOFP is the same as taking a photograph >>>you can't save. Not to mention the fact that the resolution on the rear >>>screen isn't really high enough to make a good determination of DOF >>>anyway. I personally think that it's a useless feature. I know some >>>will disagree. >>> >>>Tom C wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> I like the on-screen DOFP. Often hard to get a good feeling in low light through the viewfinder. Tom C. "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered." >From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >Subject: Re: K10D - More News >Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 15:51:53 -0400 > >Damn, it looks to me as if Pentax has decided to add as many "features" >to the mix as possible, without asking if these are necessary to the >likely target audience. More like, what can we implement "cheaply" to >set us apart, and get the bullet point count up. Oh, well. At least we >can hope the core operations and build quality will be solid. > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > >>Well, I've only actually seen photos of the latest build of it, >> >> >> >> >>>courtesy >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >of my > > > > > > >>Pentax rep, but at least I've got a little more information for you to >> >> >> >> >> >> >chew > > > > > > >>on. The photos were taken this week, so this is about as current as it >> >> >> >> >> >> >gets. > > > > > > >>First off, the magic press-release date is September 13th. There's >> >> >> >> >>>still >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >so > > > > > > >>much I haven't been able to pry from my rep that I'm dying for this >> >> >> >> >>>date >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >to > > > > > > >>hurry up and get here! >> >>Body + 18-55 lens should be $899. A bit more than I expected, but >> >> >> >> >>>still >>> >>
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Thanks John. $900, huh? Sounds a little low for the D200 type build-quality, but heck if it works as well as I hope it does it will be a great price. I like the RAW/JPEG switch button ... that is a more common switch for me than white balance. Can't wait to see one. Godfrey On Aug 4, 2006, at 12:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Well, I've only actually seen photos of the latest build of it, > courtesy of my > Pentax rep, but at least I've got a little more information for you > to chew > on. The photos were taken this week, so this is about as current > as it gets. > > First off, the magic press-release date is September 13th. There's > still so > much I haven't been able to pry from my rep that I'm dying for this > date to > hurry up and get here! > > Body + 18-55 lens should be $899. A bit more than I expected, but > still a damn > good price. > > The name is definitely K10D (it was stamped on the body). Any > remaining > doubters can relax now. > > Remember in the PMA photos (http://www.dpreview.com/articles/ > pma2006/Pentax/), > that unmarked button that was above the AF switch on the front of > the camera? > It's now marked RAW, and I'm told it allows you to switch the > camera to RAW > mode from jpg mode by pressing and holding the RAW button. I think > I would > have preferred a custom white balance button, but I'm sure this > function will > be useful for people who shoot in jpg mode most of the time. > > The LCD screen is the same as on the K100D: 2.5 ", 210,000 pixels > > The battery grip has the same features as the grip for the *istD, > though I > can't say whether or not it connects to the body in the same way. > > The body is slightly different than the one shown at PMA, though > not by much. > I'd be more specific, but I didn't have much time to really study > the new > images. > > The mode dial on the camera's shoulder now has a lot more on it > than at PMA. I > couldn't see much detail in the images, but the new stuff looked > like the same > sort of preset shooting modes you see on consumer cameras (sports, > portrait, > night scene, etc). > > DOF-preview now functions in a very interesting manner (apparently > it does this > on the K100D, but I didn't know that). Straight out of the box, > when you use > the DOF-preview function, it actually takes a photo and displays it > on the > screen until you press halfway on the shutter button (no, the photo > is not > saved on your memory card). If you want the more standard thru-the- > lens DOF- > preview, you can change that in a custom function menu. > > > That's all I can remember. Have fun! > > John Celio > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I also will not use this feature -- but since a simple change to a preference setting will cause the switch to behave as a regular DOF preview, just like on the old bodies, I see no reason to complain about it. -Aaron -Original Message- From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subj: Re: K10D - More News Date: Fri Aug 4, 2006 4:07 pm Size: 4K To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Unfortunately the rear screen DOFP is the same as taking a photograph you can't save. Not to mention the fact that the resolution on the rear screen isn't really high enough to make a good determination of DOF anyway. I personally think that it's a useless feature. I know some will disagree. Tom C wrote: >I like the on-screen DOFP. Often hard to get a good feeling in low light >through the viewfinder. > >Tom C. > >"I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or >numbered." > > > > > > >>From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>Subject: Re: K10D - More News >>Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 15:51:53 -0400 >> >>Damn, it looks to me as if Pentax has decided to add as many "features" >>to the mix as possible, without asking if these are necessary to the >>likely target audience. More like, what can we implement "cheaply" to >>set us apart, and get the bullet point count up. Oh, well. At least we >>can hope the core operations and build quality will be solid. >> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> >> >>>Well, I've only actually seen photos of the latest build of it, courtesy >>> >>> >>of my >> >> >>>Pentax rep, but at least I've got a little more information for you to >>> >>> >>chew >> >> >>>on. The photos were taken this week, so this is about as current as it >>> >>> >>gets. >> >> >>>First off, the magic press-release date is September 13th. There's still >>> >>> >>so >> >> >>>much I haven't been able to pry from my rep that I'm dying for this date >>> >>> >>to >> >> >>>hurry up and get here! >>> >>>Body + 18-55 lens should be $899. A bit more than I expected, but still >>> >>> >>a damn >> >> >>>good price. >>> >>>The name is definitely K10D (it was stamped on the body). Any remaining >>>doubters can relax now. >>> >>>Remember in the PMA photos >>> >>> >>(http://www.dpreview.com/articles/pma2006/Pentax/), >> >> >>>that unmarked button that was above the AF switch on the front of the >>> >>> >>camera? >> >> >>>It's now marked RAW, and I'm told it allows you to switch the camera to >>> >>> >>RAW >> >> >>>mode from jpg mode by pressing and holding the RAW button. I think I >>> >>> >>would >> >> >>>have preferred a custom white balance button, but I'm sure this function >>> >>> >>will >> >> >>>be useful for people who shoot in jpg mode most of the time. >>> >>>The LCD screen is the same as on the K100D: 2.5 ", 210,000 pixels >>> >>>The battery grip has the same features as the grip for the *istD, though >>> >>> >>I >> >> >>>can't say whether or not it connects to the body in the same way. >>> >>>The body is slightly different than the one shown at PMA, though not by >>> >>> >>much. >> >> >>>I'd be more specific, but I didn't have much time to really study the new >>>images. >>> >>>The mode dial on the camera's shoulder now has a lot more on it than at >>> >>> >>PMA. I >> >> >>>couldn't see much detail in the images, but the new stuff looked like the >>> >>> >>same >> >> >>>sort of preset shooting modes you see on consumer cameras (sports, >>> >>> >>portrait, >> >> >>>night scene, etc). >>> >>>DOF-preview now functions in a very interesting manner (apparently it >>> >>> >>does this >> >> >>>on the K100D, but I didn't know that). Straight out of the box, when you >>> >>> >>use >> >> >>>the DOF-preview function, it actually takes a photo and displays it on >>> >>> >>the >> >> >>>screen until you press halfway on the shutter button (no, the photo is >>> >>> >>not >> >> >>>saved on your memory card). If you want the more standard thru-the-lens >>> >>> >>DOF- >> >> >>>preview, you can change that in a custom function menu. >>> >>> >>>That's all I can remember. Have fun! >>> >>>John Celio >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>-- >>When you're worried or in doubt, >> Run in circles, (scream and shout). >> >> >>-- >>PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>PDML@pdml.net >>http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> >> > > > > > -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Really? I set my first zoom step to 4x on the DS2 and find the image at that size to be a perfectly good size for judging focus -- and I do it a lot, shooting wide-open with a 400mm 2.8, which gives the tiniest sliver of in-focus image. -Aaron -Original Message- From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subj: Re: K10D - More News Date: Fri Aug 4, 2006 4:23 pm Size: 6K To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List From my experience, I've taken shots that I was sure I'd missed the focus on, and reviewed them on the rear screen of my *ist-Ds, not as big as the new K series but close, and breathed a sigh of relief thinking they were salvageable. They weren't. Everything looks sharp at that resolution, if you get the focus even close. It's not the size of the screen, it's the pixels displayed that tells the story. Tom C wrote: >Not making a major issue of it, but the screen is a good 5 times the size of >the viewfinder, plus one can zoom in on the part of the image they wish to >inspect... I can see it being useful (though I would easily have traded 2 >more megapixels for the feature). > >Tom C. > >"I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or >numbered." > > > > > > >>From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>Subject: Re: K10D - More News >>Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 16:12:41 -0400 >> >>Unfortunately the rear screen DOFP is the same as taking a photograph >>you can't save. Not to mention the fact that the resolution on the rear >>screen isn't really high enough to make a good determination of DOF >>anyway. I personally think that it's a useless feature. I know some >>will disagree. >> >>Tom C wrote: >> >> >> >>>I like the on-screen DOFP. Often hard to get a good feeling in low light >>>through the viewfinder. >>> >>>Tom C. >>> >>>"I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or >>>numbered." >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K10D - More News Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 15:51:53 -0400 Damn, it looks to me as if Pentax has decided to add as many "features" to the mix as possible, without asking if these are necessary to the likely target audience. More like, what can we implement "cheaply" to set us apart, and get the bullet point count up. Oh, well. At least we can hope the core operations and build quality will be solid. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Well, I've only actually seen photos of the latest build of it, > > >>courtesy >> >> > > of my >Pentax rep, but at least I've got a little more information for you to > > > > chew >on. The photos were taken this week, so this is about as current as it > > > > gets. >First off, the magic press-release date is September 13th. There's > > >>still >> >> > > so >much I haven't been able to pry from my rep that I'm dying for this > > >>date >> >> > > to >hurry up and get here! > >Body + 18-55 lens should be $899. A bit more than I expected, but > > >>still >> >> > > a damn >good price. > >The name is definitely K10D (it was stamped on the body). Any remaining >doubters can relax now. > >Remember in the PMA photos > > > > (http://www.dpreview.com/articles/pma2006/Pentax/), >that unmarked button that was above the AF switch on the front of the > > > > camera? >It's now marked RAW, and I'm told it allows you to switch the camera to > > > > RAW >mode from jpg mode by pressing and holding the RAW button. I think I > > > > would >have preferred a custom white balance button, but I'm sure this > > >>function >> >> > > will >be useful for people who shoot in jpg mode most of the time. > >The LCD screen is the same as on the K100D: 2.5 ", 210,000 pixels > >The battery grip has the same features as the grip for the *istD, > > >>though >> >> > > I >can't say whether or not it connects to the body in the same way. > >The body is slightly different than the one sho
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On the DS, if you go to about 4x-5x magnification, you're seeing the pixels at approximately 1:1 and can evaluate sharpness easily. I agree that you can't see sharpness well enough at standard review size without magnification. G On Aug 4, 2006, at 1:33 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > From my experience, I've taken shots that I was sure I'd missed the > focus on, and reviewed them on the rear screen of my *ist-Ds, not > as big > as the new K series but close, and breathed a sigh of relief thinking > they were salvageable. They weren't. Everything looks sharp at that > resolution, if you get the focus even close. It's not the size of the > screen, it's the pixels displayed that tells the story. > > Tom C wrote: > >> Not making a major issue of it, but the screen is a good 5 times >> the size of >> the viewfinder, plus one can zoom in on the part of the image they >> wish to >> inspect... I can see it being useful (though I would easily have >> traded 2 >> more megapixels for the feature). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On Aug 4, 2006, at 1:07 PM, mike wilson wrote: >> DOF-preview now functions in a very interesting manner (apparently >> it does this >> on the K100D, but I didn't know that). Straight out of the box, >> when you use >> the DOF-preview function, it actually takes a photo and displays >> it on the >> screen until you press halfway on the shutter button (no, the >> photo is not >> saved on your memory card). If you want the more standard thru- >> the-lens DOF- >> preview, you can change that in a custom function menu. > > DL/2 did this, also. Bloody annoying. Can't see as I'd find making one CF setting, once, annoying. Personally, I think it's a neat feature and useful for when you're working out the correct focus zone. You can make a choice, capture a preview image and zoom it to max magnification to check the focus zone, change the setting, etc . No one I know uses DOF preview in dynamic situations, this lets you see the image properly exposed in review so you can determine whether you have your settings correct. Once you know that, you just shoot. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: A few questions on a Zeiss Ikon, an old film and a studio lighting peace
One could use M with electronic flash as long as one uses a shutter speed of 1/30 second or less. At slow speeds the shutter is open long enough that 20ms makes no difference. -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" --- John Francis wrote: > On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 09:12:46AM -0400, Bob Shell wrote: >> On Aug 3, 2006, at 5:01 PM, Lasse Karlsson wrote: >> >>> 1) Regarding the Zeiss Ikon Nettar "front piece": You can see this red >>> little thingy set at "F". >>> Now what does this red thing do there? What does "F" and "M" mean? >> This is the flash synch setting. I believe M is for bulbs and F for >> electronic flash. > > I don't know enough about flash bulbs to know which is which, but I > do know these are for two different types of flash bulbs. Electronic > flash sync is shown as "X". > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D - More News
From my experience, I've taken shots that I was sure I'd missed the focus on, and reviewed them on the rear screen of my *ist-Ds, not as big as the new K series but close, and breathed a sigh of relief thinking they were salvageable. They weren't. Everything looks sharp at that resolution, if you get the focus even close. It's not the size of the screen, it's the pixels displayed that tells the story. Tom C wrote: >Not making a major issue of it, but the screen is a good 5 times the size of >the viewfinder, plus one can zoom in on the part of the image they wish to >inspect... I can see it being useful (though I would easily have traded 2 >more megapixels for the feature). > >Tom C. > >"I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or >numbered." > > > > > > >>From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>Subject: Re: K10D - More News >>Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 16:12:41 -0400 >> >>Unfortunately the rear screen DOFP is the same as taking a photograph >>you can't save. Not to mention the fact that the resolution on the rear >>screen isn't really high enough to make a good determination of DOF >>anyway. I personally think that it's a useless feature. I know some >>will disagree. >> >>Tom C wrote: >> >> >> >>>I like the on-screen DOFP. Often hard to get a good feeling in low light >>>through the viewfinder. >>> >>>Tom C. >>> >>>"I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or >>>numbered." >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K10D - More News Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 15:51:53 -0400 Damn, it looks to me as if Pentax has decided to add as many "features" to the mix as possible, without asking if these are necessary to the likely target audience. More like, what can we implement "cheaply" to set us apart, and get the bullet point count up. Oh, well. At least we can hope the core operations and build quality will be solid. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Well, I've only actually seen photos of the latest build of it, > > >>courtesy >> >> > > of my >Pentax rep, but at least I've got a little more information for you to > > > > chew >on. The photos were taken this week, so this is about as current as it > > > > gets. >First off, the magic press-release date is September 13th. There's > > >>still >> >> > > so >much I haven't been able to pry from my rep that I'm dying for this > > >>date >> >> > > to >hurry up and get here! > >Body + 18-55 lens should be $899. A bit more than I expected, but > > >>still >> >> > > a damn >good price. > >The name is definitely K10D (it was stamped on the body). Any remaining >doubters can relax now. > >Remember in the PMA photos > > > > (http://www.dpreview.com/articles/pma2006/Pentax/), >that unmarked button that was above the AF switch on the front of the > > > > camera? >It's now marked RAW, and I'm told it allows you to switch the camera to > > > > RAW >mode from jpg mode by pressing and holding the RAW button. I think I > > > > would >have preferred a custom white balance button, but I'm sure this > > >>function >> >> > > will >be useful for people who shoot in jpg mode most of the time. > >The LCD screen is the same as on the K100D: 2.5 ", 210,000 pixels > >The battery grip has the same features as the grip for the *istD, > > >>though >> >> > > I >can't say whether or not it connects to the body in the same way. > >The body is slightly different than the one shown at PMA, though not by > > > > much. >I'd be more specific, but I didn't have much time to really study the > > >>new >> >> >images. > >The mode dial on the camera's shoulder now has a lot more on it than at > > > > PMA. I >couldn't see much detail in the ima
Re: K10D - More News
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Well, I've only actually seen photos of the latest build of it, courtesy of > my > Pentax rep, but at least I've got a little more information for you to chew > on. The photos were taken this week, so this is about as current as it gets. > > First off, the magic press-release date is September 13th. There's still so > much I haven't been able to pry from my rep that I'm dying for this date to > hurry up and get here! > > Body + 18-55 lens should be $899. A bit more than I expected, but still a > damn > good price. > > The name is definitely K10D (it was stamped on the body). Any remaining > doubters can relax now. > > Remember in the PMA photos > (http://www.dpreview.com/articles/pma2006/Pentax/), > that unmarked button that was above the AF switch on the front of the camera? > > It's now marked RAW, and I'm told it allows you to switch the camera to RAW > mode from jpg mode by pressing and holding the RAW button. I think I would > have preferred a custom white balance button, but I'm sure this function will > be useful for people who shoot in jpg mode most of the time. > > The LCD screen is the same as on the K100D: 2.5 ", 210,000 pixels > > The battery grip has the same features as the grip for the *istD, though I > can't say whether or not it connects to the body in the same way. > > The body is slightly different than the one shown at PMA, though not by much. > > I'd be more specific, but I didn't have much time to really study the new > images. > > The mode dial on the camera's shoulder now has a lot more on it than at PMA. > I > couldn't see much detail in the images, but the new stuff looked like the > same > sort of preset shooting modes you see on consumer cameras (sports, portrait, > night scene, etc). > > DOF-preview now functions in a very interesting manner (apparently it does > this > on the K100D, but I didn't know that). Straight out of the box, when you use > the DOF-preview function, it actually takes a photo and displays it on the > screen until you press halfway on the shutter button (no, the photo is not > saved on your memory card). If you want the more standard thru-the-lens DOF- > preview, you can change that in a custom function menu. DL/2 did this, also. Bloody annoying. > > > That's all I can remember. Have fun! > > John Celio > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D - More News
Not making a major issue of it, but the screen is a good 5 times the size of the viewfinder, plus one can zoom in on the part of the image they wish to inspect... I can see it being useful (though I would easily have traded 2 more megapixels for the feature). Tom C. "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered." >From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >Subject: Re: K10D - More News >Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 16:12:41 -0400 > >Unfortunately the rear screen DOFP is the same as taking a photograph >you can't save. Not to mention the fact that the resolution on the rear >screen isn't really high enough to make a good determination of DOF >anyway. I personally think that it's a useless feature. I know some >will disagree. > >Tom C wrote: > > >I like the on-screen DOFP. Often hard to get a good feeling in low light > >through the viewfinder. > > > >Tom C. > > > >"I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or > >numbered." > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >>Subject: Re: K10D - More News > >>Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 15:51:53 -0400 > >> > >>Damn, it looks to me as if Pentax has decided to add as many "features" > >>to the mix as possible, without asking if these are necessary to the > >>likely target audience. More like, what can we implement "cheaply" to > >>set us apart, and get the bullet point count up. Oh, well. At least we > >>can hope the core operations and build quality will be solid. > >> > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>Well, I've only actually seen photos of the latest build of it, >courtesy > >>> > >>> > >>of my > >> > >> > >>>Pentax rep, but at least I've got a little more information for you to > >>> > >>> > >>chew > >> > >> > >>>on. The photos were taken this week, so this is about as current as it > >>> > >>> > >>gets. > >> > >> > >>>First off, the magic press-release date is September 13th. There's >still > >>> > >>> > >>so > >> > >> > >>>much I haven't been able to pry from my rep that I'm dying for this >date > >>> > >>> > >>to > >> > >> > >>>hurry up and get here! > >>> > >>>Body + 18-55 lens should be $899. A bit more than I expected, but >still > >>> > >>> > >>a damn > >> > >> > >>>good price. > >>> > >>>The name is definitely K10D (it was stamped on the body). Any remaining > >>>doubters can relax now. > >>> > >>>Remember in the PMA photos > >>> > >>> > >>(http://www.dpreview.com/articles/pma2006/Pentax/), > >> > >> > >>>that unmarked button that was above the AF switch on the front of the > >>> > >>> > >>camera? > >> > >> > >>>It's now marked RAW, and I'm told it allows you to switch the camera to > >>> > >>> > >>RAW > >> > >> > >>>mode from jpg mode by pressing and holding the RAW button. I think I > >>> > >>> > >>would > >> > >> > >>>have preferred a custom white balance button, but I'm sure this >function > >>> > >>> > >>will > >> > >> > >>>be useful for people who shoot in jpg mode most of the time. > >>> > >>>The LCD screen is the same as on the K100D: 2.5 ", 210,000 pixels > >>> > >>>The battery grip has the same features as the grip for the *istD, >though > >>> > >>> > >>I > >> > >> > >>>can't say whether or not it connects to the body in the same way. > >>> > >>>The body is slightly different than the one shown at PMA, though not by > >>> > >>> > >>much. > >> > >> > >>>I'd be more specific, but I didn't have much time to really study the >new > >>>images. > >>> > >>>The mode dial on the camera's shoulder now has a lot more on it than at > >>> > >>> > >>PMA. I > >> > >> > >>>couldn't see much detail in the images, but the new stuff looked like >the > >>> > >>> > >>same > >> > >> > >>>sort of preset shooting modes you see on consumer cameras (sports, > >>> > >>> > >>portrait, > >> > >> > >>>night scene, etc). > >>> > >>>DOF-preview now functions in a very interesting manner (apparently it > >>> > >>> > >>does this > >> > >> > >>>on the K100D, but I didn't know that). Straight out of the box, when >you > >>> > >>> > >>use > >> > >> > >>>the DOF-preview function, it actually takes a photo and displays it on > >>> > >>> > >>the > >> > >> > >>>screen until you press halfway on the shutter button (no, the photo is > >>> > >>> > >>not > >> > >> > >>>saved on your memory card). If you want the more standard >thru-the-lens > >>> > >>> > >>DOF- > >> > >> > >>>preview, you can change that in a custom function menu. > >>> > >>> > >>>That's all I can remember. Have fun! > >>> > >>>John Celio > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>-- > >>When you're worried or in doubt, > >>Run in circles, (scream and shout). > >> > >> > >>-- > >>PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >>PDML@pdml.net > >>http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- >When you're worried or in doubt, > Run in circle
Re: K10D - More News
Low price has me a tiny bit concerned, as it does you. Am wondering if continuous frame count info is a part of the "unshared" information? Jack --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I hope you're wrong about the preset shooting modes. Or if it does > have them, I hope it has a switch for continuous autofocus as well, > along with individualwheels for shutter speed and ap. In other words, > I hope it's at least as professional in its operating modes as the > *ist D. The price is much lower than I expected. That's good news. I > think. It makes one wonder if the 645D is going to be a lot less > expensive than most are thinking. H. > Paul > -- Original message -- > From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Damn, it looks to me as if Pentax has decided to add as many > "features" > > to the mix as possible, without asking if these are necessary to > the > > likely target audience. More like, what can we implement "cheaply" > to > > set us apart, and get the bullet point count up. Oh, well. At > least we > > can hope the core operations and build quality will be solid. > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > >Well, I've only actually seen photos of the latest build of it, > courtesy of my > > >Pentax rep, but at least I've got a little more information for > you to chew > > >on. The photos were taken this week, so this is about as current > as it gets. > > > > > >First off, the magic press-release date is September 13th. > There's still so > > >much I haven't been able to pry from my rep that I'm dying for > this date to > > >hurry up and get here! > > > > > >Body + 18-55 lens should be $899. A bit more than I expected, but > still a damn > > >good price. > > > > > >The name is definitely K10D (it was stamped on the body). Any > remaining > > >doubters can relax now. > > > > > >Remember in the PMA photos > (http://www.dpreview.com/articles/pma2006/Pentax/), > > >that unmarked button that was above the AF switch on the front of > the camera? > > >It's now marked RAW, and I'm told it allows you to switch the > camera to RAW > > >mode from jpg mode by pressing and holding the RAW button. I > think I would > > >have preferred a custom white balance button, but I'm sure this > function will > > >be useful for people who shoot in jpg mode most of the time. > > > > > >The LCD screen is the same as on the K100D: 2.5 ", 210,000 pixels > > > > > >The battery grip has the same features as the grip for the *istD, > though I > > >can't say whether or not it connects to the body in the same way. > > > > > >The body is slightly different than the one shown at PMA, though > not by much. > > >I'd be more specific, but I didn't have much time to really study > the new > > >images. > > > > > >The mode dial on the camera's shoulder now has a lot more on it > than at PMA. I > > >couldn't see much detail in the images, but the new stuff looked > like the same > > >sort of preset shooting modes you see on consumer cameras (sports, > portrait, > > >night scene, etc). > > > > > >DOF-preview now functions in a very interesting manner (apparently > it does this > > >on the K100D, but I didn't know that). Straight out of the box, > when you use > > >the DOF-preview function, it actually takes a photo and displays > it on the > > >screen until you press halfway on the shutter button (no, the > photo is not > > >saved on your memory card). If you want the more standard > thru-the-lens DOF- > > >preview, you can change that in a custom function menu. > > > > > > > > >That's all I can remember. Have fun! > > > > > >John Celio > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > When you're worried or in doubt, > > Run in circles, (scream and shout). > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Polar Pivot
Sorry, missed that one originally, I started reading about Flashbulbs with Digital Cameras and somehow got side tracked into corroding carabiners... I like the first one. I'm not too sure about this one. It's very surreal, maybe, not over sharpened, but too sharp for the subject matter? I don't know. Still a very good capture. Jack Davis wrote: >My earlier Chipmunk Flare upload didn't incite a lot of activity, but I >stubbornly press on. Here's another kind of unusual critter pic. >Shot a Sacramento's Land Park Zoo, a few hot summers back. >I watched him/her dive into the pool and come up spinning off the >water. Finally decided I'd try to catch the action. >A*300 f2.8, LX on sturdy tripod. Film unknown at this moment. > >Pls let me know if this or other of my files are difficult to handle. >Thanks. > >Jack > >http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=160 > >__ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com > > > -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Chipmunk Flare
You could have cropped a little tighter on the chipmunk but other than that it's a great little capture. Looks like it should be on the cover of "Chipmunk Times". (Yes, I know I'm asking for it). Jack Davis wrote: >This is all about a cute accident. >At Bryce Canyon, UT, several years back, my wife was 'playing' with a >chipmunk by placing bits of Ritz crackers on a pine root. (Probably a >Chipmunk nutritional NO NO). >It would dart out and promptly vaporize. I took a few shots and, when >processed, was surprised by this reminder of the gymnastic floor >exercise move known as a "flare". Hence, the title. >This image is an extremely small part of the frame and not quite a >solid freeze. > >Jack > >Comments welcome > >http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=158 > >__ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com > > > -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D - More News
Is there going to be a 645D??? ??? :-) Tom C. "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered." >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >Subject: Re: K10D - More News >Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 19:49:49 + > >I hope you're wrong about the preset shooting modes. Or if it does have >them, I hope it has a switch for continuous autofocus as well, along with >individualwheels for shutter speed and ap. In other words, I hope it's at >least as professional in its operating modes as the *ist D. The price is >much lower than I expected. That's good news. I think. It makes one wonder >if the 645D is going to be a lot less expensive than most are thinking. >H. >Paul > -- Original message -- >From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Damn, it looks to me as if Pentax has decided to add as many "features" > > to the mix as possible, without asking if these are necessary to the > > likely target audience. More like, what can we implement "cheaply" to > > set us apart, and get the bullet point count up. Oh, well. At least we > > can hope the core operations and build quality will be solid. > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > >Well, I've only actually seen photos of the latest build of it, >courtesy of my > > >Pentax rep, but at least I've got a little more information for you to >chew > > >on. The photos were taken this week, so this is about as current as it >gets. > > > > > >First off, the magic press-release date is September 13th. There's >still so > > >much I haven't been able to pry from my rep that I'm dying for this >date to > > >hurry up and get here! > > > > > >Body + 18-55 lens should be $899. A bit more than I expected, but >still a damn > > >good price. > > > > > >The name is definitely K10D (it was stamped on the body). Any remaining > > >doubters can relax now. > > > > > >Remember in the PMA photos >(http://www.dpreview.com/articles/pma2006/Pentax/), > > >that unmarked button that was above the AF switch on the front of the >camera? > > >It's now marked RAW, and I'm told it allows you to switch the camera to >RAW > > >mode from jpg mode by pressing and holding the RAW button. I think I >would > > >have preferred a custom white balance button, but I'm sure this >function will > > >be useful for people who shoot in jpg mode most of the time. > > > > > >The LCD screen is the same as on the K100D: 2.5 ", 210,000 pixels > > > > > >The battery grip has the same features as the grip for the *istD, >though I > > >can't say whether or not it connects to the body in the same way. > > > > > >The body is slightly different than the one shown at PMA, though not by >much. > > >I'd be more specific, but I didn't have much time to really study the >new > > >images. > > > > > >The mode dial on the camera's shoulder now has a lot more on it than at >PMA. I > > >couldn't see much detail in the images, but the new stuff looked like >the same > > >sort of preset shooting modes you see on consumer cameras (sports, >portrait, > > >night scene, etc). > > > > > >DOF-preview now functions in a very interesting manner (apparently it >does this > > >on the K100D, but I didn't know that). Straight out of the box, when >you use > > >the DOF-preview function, it actually takes a photo and displays it on >the > > >screen until you press halfway on the shutter button (no, the photo is >not > > >saved on your memory card). If you want the more standard >thru-the-lens DOF- > > >preview, you can change that in a custom function menu. > > > > > > > > >That's all I can remember. Have fun! > > > > > >John Celio > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > When you're worried or in doubt, > > Run in circles, (scream and shout). > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > >-- >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >PDML@pdml.net >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PUG is dying?
Ann wrote: "getting off our posteriors to put things up. " and I'd just like to point it out to Mark... -- Cheers, Bob > > > John - > skimming the lists mail today I didn't find the reply to the > above I thought I had written. > Glad you liked my shot - it was one that immediately jumped > into my mind to use for this > theme and I was actually able to find it quickly ;) > > I think the subject and the cheer-leading both were factors > to our getting off our > posteriors to put things up. Dag's was probably my fave, > too btw... but there were > lots of goodies. > > ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D - More News
Unfortunately the rear screen DOFP is the same as taking a photograph you can't save. Not to mention the fact that the resolution on the rear screen isn't really high enough to make a good determination of DOF anyway. I personally think that it's a useless feature. I know some will disagree. Tom C wrote: >I like the on-screen DOFP. Often hard to get a good feeling in low light >through the viewfinder. > >Tom C. > >"I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or >numbered." > > > > > > >>From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>Subject: Re: K10D - More News >>Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 15:51:53 -0400 >> >>Damn, it looks to me as if Pentax has decided to add as many "features" >>to the mix as possible, without asking if these are necessary to the >>likely target audience. More like, what can we implement "cheaply" to >>set us apart, and get the bullet point count up. Oh, well. At least we >>can hope the core operations and build quality will be solid. >> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> >> >>>Well, I've only actually seen photos of the latest build of it, courtesy >>> >>> >>of my >> >> >>>Pentax rep, but at least I've got a little more information for you to >>> >>> >>chew >> >> >>>on. The photos were taken this week, so this is about as current as it >>> >>> >>gets. >> >> >>>First off, the magic press-release date is September 13th. There's still >>> >>> >>so >> >> >>>much I haven't been able to pry from my rep that I'm dying for this date >>> >>> >>to >> >> >>>hurry up and get here! >>> >>>Body + 18-55 lens should be $899. A bit more than I expected, but still >>> >>> >>a damn >> >> >>>good price. >>> >>>The name is definitely K10D (it was stamped on the body). Any remaining >>>doubters can relax now. >>> >>>Remember in the PMA photos >>> >>> >>(http://www.dpreview.com/articles/pma2006/Pentax/), >> >> >>>that unmarked button that was above the AF switch on the front of the >>> >>> >>camera? >> >> >>>It's now marked RAW, and I'm told it allows you to switch the camera to >>> >>> >>RAW >> >> >>>mode from jpg mode by pressing and holding the RAW button. I think I >>> >>> >>would >> >> >>>have preferred a custom white balance button, but I'm sure this function >>> >>> >>will >> >> >>>be useful for people who shoot in jpg mode most of the time. >>> >>>The LCD screen is the same as on the K100D: 2.5 ", 210,000 pixels >>> >>>The battery grip has the same features as the grip for the *istD, though >>> >>> >>I >> >> >>>can't say whether or not it connects to the body in the same way. >>> >>>The body is slightly different than the one shown at PMA, though not by >>> >>> >>much. >> >> >>>I'd be more specific, but I didn't have much time to really study the new >>>images. >>> >>>The mode dial on the camera's shoulder now has a lot more on it than at >>> >>> >>PMA. I >> >> >>>couldn't see much detail in the images, but the new stuff looked like the >>> >>> >>same >> >> >>>sort of preset shooting modes you see on consumer cameras (sports, >>> >>> >>portrait, >> >> >>>night scene, etc). >>> >>>DOF-preview now functions in a very interesting manner (apparently it >>> >>> >>does this >> >> >>>on the K100D, but I didn't know that). Straight out of the box, when you >>> >>> >>use >> >> >>>the DOF-preview function, it actually takes a photo and displays it on >>> >>> >>the >> >> >>>screen until you press halfway on the shutter button (no, the photo is >>> >>> >>not >> >> >>>saved on your memory card). If you want the more standard thru-the-lens >>> >>> >>DOF- >> >> >>>preview, you can change that in a custom function menu. >>> >>> >>>That's all I can remember. Have fun! >>> >>>John Celio >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>-- >>When you're worried or in doubt, >> Run in circles, (scream and shout). >> >> >>-- >>PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>PDML@pdml.net >>http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> >> > > > > > -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D - More News
Not a clue, it opens for me. Jack Davis wrote: >I'm being told, "this page is not available on your server". Any >practical help appreciated. > >Jack > >--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >>Well, I've only actually seen photos of the latest build of it, >>courtesy of my >>Pentax rep, but at least I've got a little more information for you >>to chew >>on. The photos were taken this week, so this is about as current as >>it gets. >> >>First off, the magic press-release date is September 13th. There's >>still so >>much I haven't been able to pry from my rep that I'm dying for this >>date to >>hurry up and get here! >> >>Body + 18-55 lens should be $899. A bit more than I expected, but >>still a damn >>good price. >> >>The name is definitely K10D (it was stamped on the body). Any >>remaining >>doubters can relax now. >> >>Remember in the PMA photos >>(http://www.dpreview.com/articles/pma2006/Pentax/), >>that unmarked button that was above the AF switch on the front of the >>camera? >>It's now marked RAW, and I'm told it allows you to switch the camera >>to RAW >>mode from jpg mode by pressing and holding the RAW button. I think I >>would >>have preferred a custom white balance button, but I'm sure this >>function will >>be useful for people who shoot in jpg mode most of the time. >> >>The LCD screen is the same as on the K100D: 2.5 ", 210,000 pixels >> >>The battery grip has the same features as the grip for the *istD, >>though I >>can't say whether or not it connects to the body in the same way. >> >>The body is slightly different than the one shown at PMA, though not >>by much. >>I'd be more specific, but I didn't have much time to really study the >>new >>images. >> >>The mode dial on the camera's shoulder now has a lot more on it than >>at PMA. I >>couldn't see much detail in the images, but the new stuff looked like >>the same >>sort of preset shooting modes you see on consumer cameras (sports, >>portrait, >>night scene, etc). >> >>DOF-preview now functions in a very interesting manner (apparently it >>does this >>on the K100D, but I didn't know that). Straight out of the box, when >>you use >>the DOF-preview function, it actually takes a photo and displays it >>on the >>screen until you press halfway on the shutter button (no, the photo >>is not >>saved on your memory card). If you want the more standard >>thru-the-lens DOF- >>preview, you can change that in a custom function menu. >> >> >>That's all I can remember. Have fun! >> >>John Celio >> >>-- >>PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>PDML@pdml.net >>http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> >> >> > > >__ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com > > > -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D - More News
>Any practical help appreciated. > >Jack In the event of an actual nuclear missle attack, Tuck head between legs, count to 10, kiss your *ss goodbye. Take two aspirin, go to bed, and call me in the morning. A stitch in time saves nine. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D - More News
I'm being told, "this page is not available on your server". Any practical help appreciated. Jack --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Well, I've only actually seen photos of the latest build of it, > courtesy of my > Pentax rep, but at least I've got a little more information for you > to chew > on. The photos were taken this week, so this is about as current as > it gets. > > First off, the magic press-release date is September 13th. There's > still so > much I haven't been able to pry from my rep that I'm dying for this > date to > hurry up and get here! > > Body + 18-55 lens should be $899. A bit more than I expected, but > still a damn > good price. > > The name is definitely K10D (it was stamped on the body). Any > remaining > doubters can relax now. > > Remember in the PMA photos > (http://www.dpreview.com/articles/pma2006/Pentax/), > that unmarked button that was above the AF switch on the front of the > camera? > It's now marked RAW, and I'm told it allows you to switch the camera > to RAW > mode from jpg mode by pressing and holding the RAW button. I think I > would > have preferred a custom white balance button, but I'm sure this > function will > be useful for people who shoot in jpg mode most of the time. > > The LCD screen is the same as on the K100D: 2.5 ", 210,000 pixels > > The battery grip has the same features as the grip for the *istD, > though I > can't say whether or not it connects to the body in the same way. > > The body is slightly different than the one shown at PMA, though not > by much. > I'd be more specific, but I didn't have much time to really study the > new > images. > > The mode dial on the camera's shoulder now has a lot more on it than > at PMA. I > couldn't see much detail in the images, but the new stuff looked like > the same > sort of preset shooting modes you see on consumer cameras (sports, > portrait, > night scene, etc). > > DOF-preview now functions in a very interesting manner (apparently it > does this > on the K100D, but I didn't know that). Straight out of the box, when > you use > the DOF-preview function, it actually takes a photo and displays it > on the > screen until you press halfway on the shutter button (no, the photo > is not > saved on your memory card). If you want the more standard > thru-the-lens DOF- > preview, you can change that in a custom function menu. > > > That's all I can remember. Have fun! > > John Celio > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D - More News
I hope you're wrong about the preset shooting modes. Or if it does have them, I hope it has a switch for continuous autofocus as well, along with individualwheels for shutter speed and ap. In other words, I hope it's at least as professional in its operating modes as the *ist D. The price is much lower than I expected. That's good news. I think. It makes one wonder if the 645D is going to be a lot less expensive than most are thinking. H. Paul -- Original message -- From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Damn, it looks to me as if Pentax has decided to add as many "features" > to the mix as possible, without asking if these are necessary to the > likely target audience. More like, what can we implement "cheaply" to > set us apart, and get the bullet point count up. Oh, well. At least we > can hope the core operations and build quality will be solid. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >Well, I've only actually seen photos of the latest build of it, courtesy of > >my > >Pentax rep, but at least I've got a little more information for you to chew > >on. The photos were taken this week, so this is about as current as it gets. > > > >First off, the magic press-release date is September 13th. There's still so > >much I haven't been able to pry from my rep that I'm dying for this date to > >hurry up and get here! > > > >Body + 18-55 lens should be $899. A bit more than I expected, but still a > >damn > >good price. > > > >The name is definitely K10D (it was stamped on the body). Any remaining > >doubters can relax now. > > > >Remember in the PMA photos > >(http://www.dpreview.com/articles/pma2006/Pentax/), > >that unmarked button that was above the AF switch on the front of the > >camera? > >It's now marked RAW, and I'm told it allows you to switch the camera to RAW > >mode from jpg mode by pressing and holding the RAW button. I think I would > >have preferred a custom white balance button, but I'm sure this function > >will > >be useful for people who shoot in jpg mode most of the time. > > > >The LCD screen is the same as on the K100D: 2.5 ", 210,000 pixels > > > >The battery grip has the same features as the grip for the *istD, though I > >can't say whether or not it connects to the body in the same way. > > > >The body is slightly different than the one shown at PMA, though not by > >much. > >I'd be more specific, but I didn't have much time to really study the new > >images. > > > >The mode dial on the camera's shoulder now has a lot more on it than at PMA. > > I > >couldn't see much detail in the images, but the new stuff looked like the > >same > >sort of preset shooting modes you see on consumer cameras (sports, portrait, > >night scene, etc). > > > >DOF-preview now functions in a very interesting manner (apparently it does > >this > >on the K100D, but I didn't know that). Straight out of the box, when you > >use > >the DOF-preview function, it actually takes a photo and displays it on the > >screen until you press halfway on the shutter button (no, the photo is not > >saved on your memory card). If you want the more standard thru-the-lens DOF- > >preview, you can change that in a custom function menu. > > > > > >That's all I can remember. Have fun! > > > >John Celio > > > > > > > > > -- > When you're worried or in doubt, > Run in circles, (scream and shout). > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO: Polar Pivot
My earlier Chipmunk Flare upload didn't incite a lot of activity, but I stubbornly press on. Here's another kind of unusual critter pic. Shot a Sacramento's Land Park Zoo, a few hot summers back. I watched him/her dive into the pool and come up spinning off the water. Finally decided I'd try to catch the action. A*300 f2.8, LX on sturdy tripod. Film unknown at this moment. Pls let me know if this or other of my files are difficult to handle. Thanks. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=160 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D - More News
I like the on-screen DOFP. Often hard to get a good feeling in low light through the viewfinder. Tom C. "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered." >From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >Subject: Re: K10D - More News >Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 15:51:53 -0400 > >Damn, it looks to me as if Pentax has decided to add as many "features" >to the mix as possible, without asking if these are necessary to the >likely target audience. More like, what can we implement "cheaply" to >set us apart, and get the bullet point count up. Oh, well. At least we >can hope the core operations and build quality will be solid. > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >Well, I've only actually seen photos of the latest build of it, courtesy >of my > >Pentax rep, but at least I've got a little more information for you to >chew > >on. The photos were taken this week, so this is about as current as it >gets. > > > >First off, the magic press-release date is September 13th. There's still >so > >much I haven't been able to pry from my rep that I'm dying for this date >to > >hurry up and get here! > > > >Body + 18-55 lens should be $899. A bit more than I expected, but still >a damn > >good price. > > > >The name is definitely K10D (it was stamped on the body). Any remaining > >doubters can relax now. > > > >Remember in the PMA photos >(http://www.dpreview.com/articles/pma2006/Pentax/), > >that unmarked button that was above the AF switch on the front of the >camera? > >It's now marked RAW, and I'm told it allows you to switch the camera to >RAW > >mode from jpg mode by pressing and holding the RAW button. I think I >would > >have preferred a custom white balance button, but I'm sure this function >will > >be useful for people who shoot in jpg mode most of the time. > > > >The LCD screen is the same as on the K100D: 2.5 ", 210,000 pixels > > > >The battery grip has the same features as the grip for the *istD, though >I > >can't say whether or not it connects to the body in the same way. > > > >The body is slightly different than the one shown at PMA, though not by >much. > >I'd be more specific, but I didn't have much time to really study the new > >images. > > > >The mode dial on the camera's shoulder now has a lot more on it than at >PMA. I > >couldn't see much detail in the images, but the new stuff looked like the >same > >sort of preset shooting modes you see on consumer cameras (sports, >portrait, > >night scene, etc). > > > >DOF-preview now functions in a very interesting manner (apparently it >does this > >on the K100D, but I didn't know that). Straight out of the box, when you >use > >the DOF-preview function, it actually takes a photo and displays it on >the > >screen until you press halfway on the shutter button (no, the photo is >not > >saved on your memory card). If you want the more standard thru-the-lens >DOF- > >preview, you can change that in a custom function menu. > > > > > >That's all I can remember. Have fun! > > > >John Celio > > > > > > > > >-- >When you're worried or in doubt, > Run in circles, (scream and shout). > > >-- >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >PDML@pdml.net >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D - More News
Damn, it looks to me as if Pentax has decided to add as many "features" to the mix as possible, without asking if these are necessary to the likely target audience. More like, what can we implement "cheaply" to set us apart, and get the bullet point count up. Oh, well. At least we can hope the core operations and build quality will be solid. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Well, I've only actually seen photos of the latest build of it, courtesy of my >Pentax rep, but at least I've got a little more information for you to chew >on. The photos were taken this week, so this is about as current as it gets. > >First off, the magic press-release date is September 13th. There's still so >much I haven't been able to pry from my rep that I'm dying for this date to >hurry up and get here! > >Body + 18-55 lens should be $899. A bit more than I expected, but still a >damn >good price. > >The name is definitely K10D (it was stamped on the body). Any remaining >doubters can relax now. > >Remember in the PMA photos (http://www.dpreview.com/articles/pma2006/Pentax/), >that unmarked button that was above the AF switch on the front of the camera? >It's now marked RAW, and I'm told it allows you to switch the camera to RAW >mode from jpg mode by pressing and holding the RAW button. I think I would >have preferred a custom white balance button, but I'm sure this function will >be useful for people who shoot in jpg mode most of the time. > >The LCD screen is the same as on the K100D: 2.5 ", 210,000 pixels > >The battery grip has the same features as the grip for the *istD, though I >can't say whether or not it connects to the body in the same way. > >The body is slightly different than the one shown at PMA, though not by much. >I'd be more specific, but I didn't have much time to really study the new >images. > >The mode dial on the camera's shoulder now has a lot more on it than at PMA. >I >couldn't see much detail in the images, but the new stuff looked like the same >sort of preset shooting modes you see on consumer cameras (sports, portrait, >night scene, etc). > >DOF-preview now functions in a very interesting manner (apparently it does >this >on the K100D, but I didn't know that). Straight out of the box, when you use >the DOF-preview function, it actually takes a photo and displays it on the >screen until you press halfway on the shutter button (no, the photo is not >saved on your memory card). If you want the more standard thru-the-lens DOF- >preview, you can change that in a custom function menu. > > >That's all I can remember. Have fun! > >John Celio > > > -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
FS: Minolta Scan Dual III
For sale: Minolta Scan Dual III 35mm film scanner. It handles both slides and negs, and is in fine working and cosmetic condition. It's a wonderful little scanner, I just don't shoot film very often these days! $150.00 US obo. PayPal only, please. I'm not sure how much shipping will be for this guy, since I've never shipped something this big. It should be less than $20 in the US. Thanks, John Celio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
K10D - More News
Well, I've only actually seen photos of the latest build of it, courtesy of my Pentax rep, but at least I've got a little more information for you to chew on. The photos were taken this week, so this is about as current as it gets. First off, the magic press-release date is September 13th. There's still so much I haven't been able to pry from my rep that I'm dying for this date to hurry up and get here! Body + 18-55 lens should be $899. A bit more than I expected, but still a damn good price. The name is definitely K10D (it was stamped on the body). Any remaining doubters can relax now. Remember in the PMA photos (http://www.dpreview.com/articles/pma2006/Pentax/), that unmarked button that was above the AF switch on the front of the camera? It's now marked RAW, and I'm told it allows you to switch the camera to RAW mode from jpg mode by pressing and holding the RAW button. I think I would have preferred a custom white balance button, but I'm sure this function will be useful for people who shoot in jpg mode most of the time. The LCD screen is the same as on the K100D: 2.5 ", 210,000 pixels The battery grip has the same features as the grip for the *istD, though I can't say whether or not it connects to the body in the same way. The body is slightly different than the one shown at PMA, though not by much. I'd be more specific, but I didn't have much time to really study the new images. The mode dial on the camera's shoulder now has a lot more on it than at PMA. I couldn't see much detail in the images, but the new stuff looked like the same sort of preset shooting modes you see on consumer cameras (sports, portrait, night scene, etc). DOF-preview now functions in a very interesting manner (apparently it does this on the K100D, but I didn't know that). Straight out of the box, when you use the DOF-preview function, it actually takes a photo and displays it on the screen until you press halfway on the shutter button (no, the photo is not saved on your memory card). If you want the more standard thru-the-lens DOF- preview, you can change that in a custom function menu. That's all I can remember. Have fun! John Celio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
FS: Sync cord/Grip
I advertised this earlier, but combination and price now changed. Am keeping one grip and cord. Selling the extra: Both absolutely as new: 4P sync cord 5 pin. Straight 16' with TTL/sync dbl attachment for the LX. FTR, cost $45. Accompanying TTL/slow sync grip (w/tripod adapted base) #37126. FTR, cost $39. Make me an offer. (you pay shipping). Jack __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Another slow-shutter pan
On Jul 30, 2006, at 5:08 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > This one is ISO 400, f16 > @ 1/30th with a much longer lens. The DA 50-200 at 180 mm. > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4746245 Very nice! You caught the motion beautifully. Just clone out those dust spots that Ralf saw. :-) Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: shake reduction and slow-shutter pan shots
On Jul 31, 2006, at 10:10 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote: > > I am just curious how the shake reduction function in the > new Pentax cameras would behave in this type of shots. > > Of course, one can switch it off, but what would happen if it is left > on? Would it all be motion-blurred? I really have to post some of my "Subjects In Motion" set. Shake Reduction (and image stabilization in general) works ok with these kinds of motion shots. A set of eight exposures were made with the image-stabilized Panasonic FZ10 using focal lengths with the 35mm equivalent of about 135-200mm field of view and exposure times in the 1/4-1/15 second range. The motion blurs are beautifully smooth. I cannot imagine that the Pentax AS system will do anything substantially different. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Another slow-shutter pan
Thanks Godders. Yeah, I have to remember to fix that. Been busy:-). Paul -- Original message -- From: Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > On Jul 30, 2006, at 5:08 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > > > This one is ISO 400, f16 > > @ 1/30th with a much longer lens. The DA 50-200 at 180 mm. > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4746245 > > Very nice! You caught the motion beautifully. > > Just clone out those dust spots that Ralf saw. :-) > > Godfrey > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Dilemma.
Wait. The K100D is a next generation camera, and it has image stabilization. Paul -- Original message -- From: Vid Strpic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Buy *istDL today, or wait a little to get K100D in my country? Prices > will most probably be about the same but what's new in K100D, that I > desperately need? Very little... so, I'm perplexed, which one to buy. > > > -- >[EMAIL PROTECTED], IRC:[EMAIL PROTECTED], /bin/zsh. C|N>K > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Some images...
Oh yeah! Now I get it. :-) Tom C. "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered." >From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >Subject: Re: Some images... >Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 10:51:16 -0700 (PDT) > >I suppose we could throw this back and forth from now on. Not that >these sorts of discussions are not interesting, it's that I'm sure with >both clearly see the other's point. Right? >That last comment was a "clever" response to your "I will not be..." >parting comments. >Re-read it now and you'll break-up. Funny, HUH? .-)) > >Jack > >--- Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi Jack, > > > > It's not my intent to satisfy those folks. I do however think Velvia > > has > > the ability to more accurately render some scenes than others. It > > may > > indeed be garish when photo after photo displayed side by side has > > the look. > > > > The other thing is, when looking at a digital representation of a > > film > > image,it's hard to tell exactly how the original image was rendered > > on film. > > It's not hard to make any digital color rendering exhibit > > Velvia-like > > characteristics. > > > > I don't get your last comments > > > > Tom C. > > > > "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or > > > > numbered." > > > > > > > > > > >From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > >Subject: Re: Some images... > > >Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 09:21:23 -0700 (PDT) > > > > > >Hi, Tom. Thought you'd be up pretty soon. :) > > >Of course there are those looking for "brought up" images and if > > it's > > >your intent to satisfy these folks, (sales, kudos, etc) knock > > yourself > > >out. I do marvel at Velvia's resolution. > > >Will you accept a radio collar? How about being "labeled" a famous > > >photographer. I'll squash that rumor if you'd like.(?) > > > > > >Jack > > > > > > > > >--- Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Wait a second Jack, am I reading you right? There's a good > > reason to > > > > use > > > > Velvia? > > > > > > > > My contention has always been that Velvia is frequently appealing > > > > because it > > > > *brings the image up* in the viewers mind to the level where one > > > > doesn't > > > > think "the picture doesn't do it justice". > > > > > > > > Tom C. > > > > > > > > "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, > > debriefed or > > > > > > > > numbered." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > > > >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > > > >Subject: Re: Some images... > > > > >Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 07:35:31 -0700 (PDT) > > > > > > > > > >Totally agree! > > > > > > > > > >Jack > > > > > > > > > >--- William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > > > From: "Jack Davis" > > > > > > Subject: Re: Some images... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's the "choice" of a large segment of the viewing public. > > I've > > > > > > always > > > > > > noticed that Pop Photo's Pentax 645 shooting Fitzharris (sp) > > or > > > > the > > > > > > editor's, 'real' them down considerably. Resolution is, IMO, > > the > > > > only > > > > > > reason to shoot Velvia. > > > > > > > > > > > > It does make cheap zoom lenses look good.. > > > > > > When Velvia was introduced, there was nothing like it on the > > > > market. > > > > > > The > > > > > > reason it did so well was because if you put a "normal" > > > > Ektachrome or > > > > > > > > > > > > Fujichrome beside it on a light table, the colours really > > popped > > > > out > > > > > > by > > > > > > comparison. > > > > > > Art directors liked this, it was like 1 Hour Kodachrome. > > > > > > > > > > > > William Robb > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > > > > > PDML@pdml.net > > > > > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >__ > > > > >Do You Yahoo!? > > > > >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > > > >http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > > >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > > > >PDML@pdml.net > > > > >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > > > PDML@pdml.net > > > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > > > > > > > > > >__ > > >Do You Yahoo!? > > >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > >http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > >-- > > >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > >PDML@pdml.net > > >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.
Re: Some images...
I suppose we could throw this back and forth from now on. Not that these sorts of discussions are not interesting, it's that I'm sure with both clearly see the other's point. Right? That last comment was a "clever" response to your "I will not be..." parting comments. Re-read it now and you'll break-up. Funny, HUH? .-)) Jack --- Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Jack, > > It's not my intent to satisfy those folks. I do however think Velvia > has > the ability to more accurately render some scenes than others. It > may > indeed be garish when photo after photo displayed side by side has > the look. > > The other thing is, when looking at a digital representation of a > film > image,it's hard to tell exactly how the original image was rendered > on film. > It's not hard to make any digital color rendering exhibit > Velvia-like > characteristics. > > I don't get your last comments > > Tom C. > > "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or > > numbered." > > > > > >From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >Subject: Re: Some images... > >Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 09:21:23 -0700 (PDT) > > > >Hi, Tom. Thought you'd be up pretty soon. :) > >Of course there are those looking for "brought up" images and if > it's > >your intent to satisfy these folks, (sales, kudos, etc) knock > yourself > >out. I do marvel at Velvia's resolution. > >Will you accept a radio collar? How about being "labeled" a famous > >photographer. I'll squash that rumor if you'd like.(?) > > > >Jack > > > > > >--- Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Wait a second Jack, am I reading you right? There's a good > reason to > > > use > > > Velvia? > > > > > > My contention has always been that Velvia is frequently appealing > > > because it > > > *brings the image up* in the viewers mind to the level where one > > > doesn't > > > think "the picture doesn't do it justice". > > > > > > Tom C. > > > > > > "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, > debriefed or > > > > > > numbered." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > > >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > > >Subject: Re: Some images... > > > >Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 07:35:31 -0700 (PDT) > > > > > > > >Totally agree! > > > > > > > >Jack > > > > > > > >--- William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > > From: "Jack Davis" > > > > > Subject: Re: Some images... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's the "choice" of a large segment of the viewing public. > I've > > > > > always > > > > > noticed that Pop Photo's Pentax 645 shooting Fitzharris (sp) > or > > > the > > > > > editor's, 'real' them down considerably. Resolution is, IMO, > the > > > only > > > > > reason to shoot Velvia. > > > > > > > > > > It does make cheap zoom lenses look good.. > > > > > When Velvia was introduced, there was nothing like it on the > > > market. > > > > > The > > > > > reason it did so well was because if you put a "normal" > > > Ektachrome or > > > > > > > > > > Fujichrome beside it on a light table, the colours really > popped > > > out > > > > > by > > > > > comparison. > > > > > Art directors liked this, it was like 1 Hour Kodachrome. > > > > > > > > > > William Robb > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > > > > PDML@pdml.net > > > > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >__ > > > >Do You Yahoo!? > > > >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > > >http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > >-- > > > >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > > >PDML@pdml.net > > > >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > > PDML@pdml.net > > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > > > > > >__ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > >http://mail.yahoo.com > > > >-- > >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >PDML@pdml.net > >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Dilemma.
Adam Maas wrote: > It's starting to show up in stores now, not widely available. I'd expect > another couple of weeks before wide availability. > > That's the problem, I could buy it in USA, but shipping and taxes. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED], IRC:[EMAIL PROTECTED], /bin/zsh. C|N>K -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: A few questions on a Zeiss Ikon, an old film and a studio lighting peace
On Aug 4, 2006, at 9:52 AM, mike wilson wrote: >> On Aug 3, 2006, at 5:01 PM, Lasse Karlsson wrote: >> >>> 1) Regarding the Zeiss Ikon Nettar "front piece": You can see >>> this red >>> little thingy set at "F". >>> Now what does this red thing do there? What does "F" and "M" mean? >> >> This is the flash synch setting. I believe M is for bulbs and F for >> electronic flash. > > That's three opinions from three answers. If we can get five from > four, we all qualify for Polish citizenship. > 8-))) I'm wrong. One of the other guys got it right. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
