Re: Who needs SR, just get CSI Miami
On Fri, Sep 15, 2006 at 08:49:48PM -0400, D Brooks wrote: Watching an all nighter of CSI Miami, and have noticed something. They tend to take a LOT of close up photos, Nikon of some sort, but never use a tripod and their shots turn out -super sharp-. Maybe i'll get Speed to do my flower shots from now on. LOL You mean The Horatio Kane(?SP?) Show? Can't watch it - it's just the same old David Caruso vs. The World plot with a different cast. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Who needs SR, just get CSI Miami
Nikon PS have always been good at Macro and 'Best shot selector' is sorta the poor mans SR, VR, etc. Have taken lots of sharp hand held macros with my Nikon 990. Powell Watching an all nighter of CSI Miami, and have noticed something. They tend to take a LOT of close up photos, Nikon of some sort, but never use a tripod and their shots turn out -super sharp-. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Green button and ergonomics.
I got it! I just thought it was too crap to comment on. Besides, these pun threads are becoming too predictable. Most of the replies seem like Pavlova reflexes. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts Sent: 16 September 2006 02:19 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Green button and ergonomics. Tim Øsleby wrote: Note to myself: You don't understand puns, therefore; never respond to a pun thread. Mike's post was such a rare subspecies - the Sunderland Dialect Pun - that Mike himself was likely the only one who had any chance of getting it! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PESO - Our Own Mike Wilson
Bob W wrote: That's a bit rich considering every American male over 45 (and many of the females) looks like Kenny Rogers! I once saw Frans Lanting in Mike's eyebrows. -- Cheers, Bob Is that Kenny Rogers before or after the botox??? annsan who DOESN'T look like that Plastic surgery's great, isn't it? I mean who wouldn't want it? http://www.hollywoodrag.com/index.php?/celebrity2/category/C194/ I can hardly wait 'til I'm old and ugly... Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Pentax 750Z
Just got one of these (refurbished grade A stock) for my son - anyone have one? Any comments? TIA -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: No wireless with RTF in K10D :-(
On Fri, 15 Sep 2006, Paul Stenquist wrote: The on-camera pop-up flash will trigger another flash without wires if the other flash is in slave mode. In mettered TTL for the slave? Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Relative Size of K10D vs. *ist-Ds
On Fri, 15 Sep 2006, P. J. Alling wrote: Decimal inches seem so rational, and inches are more of a human scale than millimeters. Greeks call the centimeter the finger (width thereof). What is the inch associated with on humans? A 12th of a largish penis? No, make it a tenth. Actually, don't make it a tenth. The advantage of the old money is that 12 is divided by more numbers than 10. Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: DIY back seals?
Replacing seals is pretty straight forward with all of the Pentax bodies I've worked on. I use the seal kits sold by Jon Goodman (EBay name interslice). The kits include a good range of different types of seal material and come with instructions for lots of different cameras. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia Quoting Jon Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED]: How tricky is it to replace the seals around the back of a camera (ME)? Thinking of just fixing my ME SE and keeping it, rather than selling it. I see revitalization kits on ebay that include such seal material, you just trim to fit. Anything I should know about that before going at it? -- Get a spam free email account - Visit http://www.bluebottle.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Green button and ergonomics.
Tim Øsleby wrote: I know the man is mean, but is he that mean? Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) I couldn't help myself. Sad but true. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts Sent: 16. september 2006 03:19 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Green button and ergonomics. Tim Øsleby wrote: Note to myself: You don't understand puns, therefore; never respond to a pun thread. Mike's post was such a rare subspecies - the Sunderland Dialect Pun - that Mike himself was likely the only one who had any chance of getting it! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Who needs SR, just get CSI Miami
D Brooks wrote: Watching an all nighter of CSI Miami, and have noticed something. They tend to take a LOT of close up photos, Nikon of some sort, but never use a tripod and their shots turn out -super sharp-. Maybe i'll get Speed to do my flower shots from now on. I've been after some of their gear for ages. They're not telling us but I suspect that their photos can be enhanced all the way down to DNA level. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Green button and ergonomics.
Bob W wrote: I got it! I just thought it was too crap to comment on. Besides, these pun threads are becoming too predictable. Most of the replies seem like Pavlova reflexes. -- Cheers, Bob 8-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts Sent: 16 September 2006 02:19 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Green button and ergonomics. Tim Øsleby wrote: Note to myself: You don't understand puns, therefore; never respond to a pun thread. Mike's post was such a rare subspecies - the Sunderland Dialect Pun - that Mike himself was likely the only one who had any chance of getting it! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Relative Size of K10D vs. *ist-Ds
What is the inch associated with on humans? The thumb bone which has the nail on - the distal phalange. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kostas Kavoussanakis Sent: 16 September 2006 09:47 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Relative Size of K10D vs. *ist-Ds On Fri, 15 Sep 2006, P. J. Alling wrote: Decimal inches seem so rational, and inches are more of a human scale than millimeters. Greeks call the centimeter the finger (width thereof). What is the inch associated with on humans? A 12th of a largish penis? No, make it a tenth. Actually, don't make it a tenth. The advantage of the old money is that 12 is divided by more numbers than 10. Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Green button and ergonomics.
On 16/9/06, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: I got it! I just thought it was too crap to comment on. Besides, these pun threads are becoming too predictable. Most of the replies seem like Pavlova reflexes. But you must admit a hunger for them. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Relative Size of K10D vs. *ist-Ds
On 15/9/06, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: Decimal inches seem so rational, and inches are more of a human scale than millimeters. I've got 305mm but never use it as a rule. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: English K10D brochure
--- Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've also noticed some new look full page Pentax Ads in several photo mags. Not just photo mags. Yesterday I was flipping through National Geographic Traveler and there was a nice full-page K100D ad. It emphasized small and light and Shake Reduction - obviously the two big selling points of that fine camera. A few pages before it was a Sony Alpha ad which I've also noticed in photo and travel ads lately. They seem to be going for an upscale look... New Doug __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: English K10D brochure
--- Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've also noticed some new look full page Pentax Ads in several photo mags. Not just photo mags. Yesterday I was flipping through National Geographic Traveler and there was a nice full-page K100D ad. It emphasized small and light and Shake Reduction - obviously the two big selling points of that fine camera. A few pages before it was a Sony Alpha ad which I've also noticed in photo and travel ads lately. They seem to be going for an upscale look... New Doug __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
K10D sensitivity?
A question: Is it true that the K10D only offers ISO 100-1600? (no over ride to 3200 like the D) Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Shel Belinkoff Sendt: 16. september 2006 07:00 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Cc: Bill Lawlor Emne: Re: K10D power? Bill, My li'l ol' Sony uses LithIon bats, and I've been very happy with them. The camera came with a charger and cord, and I suspect the K10D would have both as well. I can't speak to the charger being able to use current in India - however, a quick email to Pentax should solve that issue. Twice in the past few months I've contacted Pentax on DSLR questions and their response has been both timely and helpful. I assume there are people outside the US who are using the same current that is found in India, so proper charging gear should be simple to find. Also, most well equipped travel shops carry current converters. Pentax claims about 500 shots on the LithIon bat with a % flash use. I suspect you might get as much as double that based on how you shoot and if you don't chimp too much. You will probably use the LCD screen a bit in the beginning, but once you become familiar with the camera, that use should substantially diminish. Shel [Original Message] From: Bill Lawlor I am very interested in buying a K10D asap. I plan to spent the month of January on a personal photo trip to India. I have little experience with high end digital cameras, but thanks to Shel I have enough experience to believe it is time to make the plunge into digital. My quandry is about the power supply for the K10D. I'm unfamiliar with L-ion batteries, chargers etc. What kind of capacity might I expect from a charged battery? I will use RAW files, flash very seldom, if at all. How long would it take to recharge the batteries? Will the charger work on Indian 200-220 50 cycle mains? Is the K10D a camera with wonderful features but tethered to a home/studio environment? What kind of company sells a camera using only L-ion batteies and lists a power cord for, I assume the battery charger, as an optional accessory? Obviously, nobody has actually used the K10D yet, but I'm hoping some members of the list have experience with L-ion powered cameras. I pray the answer is not get a K100D and a case of Lithium AA batteries. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/449 - Release Date: 09/15/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/449 - Release Date: 09/15/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Green button and ergonomics.
I have owned two Pentax DSLR's: The D and the DL. The latter uses the AE-L for metering with non A-lenses. The D uses the Green Button. IMHO the green buton is more convenient (ergonomic) to use than the AE-L on the back side of the DL. When using the Green Button it is not necassary to remove the camera away form the eye. The button is right next to the shutter button - you'll easily find it - even in the dark. Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Tim Řsleby Sendt: 14. september 2006 14:37 Til: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Emne: Green button and ergonomics. I'm not familiar with the green button. I have a question about it and ergonomics. I'm a DS user. When using the pre A lenses I use the AE-L button. I'm told this does the same as the original green button. I'm using the thumb at the AE-L button. After getting used to it, it's no problem, it became a habit. When studying the new body, I see that the green button is where exposure compensation button is. Does this mean that I have to move my trigger finger? If that's the case, it looks like a drag. It seems much more convenient and faster to have one finger at each button. So. I guess my question is; can I use the AE-L button as I'm used to, or do I have to get used to use the two buttons with my trigger finger with the new body? From my point of view, the DS solution looks much better. But that might be just me, and my habits. Don't get me wrong. I do see the advantages of the two wheel interface. The only thing I find strange is that they have placed the green button near the trigger. What I don't understand why Pentax makes two opposite user interfaces. One user interface similar to the DS at the K100D, and green button interface at the K10D. If I'm right, this will make it very awkward to move from K100D to K10D, and backwards for those who want to keep the cheap camera as a backup body. So much for great ergonomics. Guess this makes me the first who has a real complaint about the K10D ;-) Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/448 - Release Date: 09/14/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/449 - Release Date: 09/15/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Our Own Mike Wilson
On 9/16/06, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Plastic surgery's great, isn't it? I mean who wouldn't want it? http://www.hollywoodrag.com/index.php?/celebrity2/category/C194/ I can hardly wait 'til I'm old and ugly... That's just too easy... Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PESO - Our Own Mike Wilson
Why wait? Get it now while you're still young and handsome enough to enjoy it LOL Shel [Original Message] From: Bob W Plastic surgery's great, isn't it? I mean who wouldn't want it? http://www.hollywoodrag.com/index.php?/celebrity2/category/C194/ I can hardly wait 'til I'm old and ugly... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: K10D sensitivity?
Jens, I'd like to know that as well. AFAIK, it's never been clarified here. Shel [Original Message] From: Jens Bladt A question: Is it true that the K10D only offers ISO 100-1600? (no over ride to 3200 like the D) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Pentax 750Z
Bill Robb has one I think. But he's probably still somewhere in the Rockies or something. What do you think of it? I've been considering getting a PS for some time now. Dave On 9/16/06, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just got one of these (refurbished grade A stock) for my son - anyone have one? Any comments? TIA -- Cheers, Cotty -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D power?
Hi Gang, Maybe I missed it, but can someone explain why Pentax went from AA's to the rechargeable LithIons? I've read that the LithIons produce more power than the AA's and that the camera needs more power, but I also read that such is not the case, and that AA's can work just as well depending on circuitry (?) or other factors. Shel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Pentax 750Z
On 16/9/06, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed: Bill Robb has one I think. But he's probably still somewhere in the Rockies or something. What do you think of it? I've been considering getting a PS for some time now. My lad had a cheapy Powershot A310 from eBay (£39) but he took it on a school trip and put it in his big bag - that went in the coach (bus) underneath storage compartment and when retrieved, the LCD was cracked and unreadable. The camera was fine - it would take shots but you couldn't see anything on the screen, menus, nothin'. We also have a G2 camera and that has the flip LCD, hence I was looking for something similar. The Pentax 750Z fit the bill, but not many about. A retailer advertised 3 refurbished / grad A stock at £139 each so went for it. I imagine the plastics are probably on a par with Canon's but the flip screen will be a bonus as I presume it can be flipped closed (with the screen facing inwards) like the Canon. Short of getting him a Leica M8, it will hopefully do. Even then, these LCDs are so vulnerable. Anyone make a really robust camera with a way of protecting the LCD? Camera arrives Tuesday. I haven't told the lad about it yet - naturally I will have to evaluate it ;-))) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies
True, Pentax has a number of 50mm/1.4 lenses that will work well on the DSLR's, but I wonder why there's no 50mm DA lens. That seems like a big hole in the lineup. I'd like to see such a lens - smaller and lighter perhaps than the FA etc., with that focusing clutch thing, and, of course, optimized for the digital use. Does anyone else think this would be a nice addition to the DA line? Maybe even a 50mm Ltd? Shel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D power?
On 16/09/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Gang, Maybe I missed it, but can someone explain why Pentax went from AA's to the rechargeable LithIons? I've read that the LithIons produce more power than the AA's and that the camera needs more power, but I also read that such is not the case, and that AA's can work just as well depending on circuitry (?) or other factors. The design engineers obviously had their reasons for selecting a proprietary L-ion battery pack as the power source for the camera however their reasons could be many, the primary being circuit design cost savings. It's pointless to go into technicalities without inside knowledge but basically from an engineering standpoint voltage is no real issue. The current generation of AA rechargeable cells have both excellent power density (lower than L-ion granted but neither do we know the absolute capacity of the L-ion system selected) and very high continuous current capabilities. However it's near impossible to build an accurate power meter on a system that can accommodate so many different battery types. My guess is that the buzz on the forums regarding the power of L-ion stems from the fact that because of the designs of the existing bodies most show a perceptible increase in AF performance when using primary (non-rechargeable) or high voltage cells like the CRV3. That's a design issue that could have been addressed but to the lay person it's proof that the rechargeable AA cells don't have enough power. -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Peso Margo's got the cargo
Thanks Ken. I didi crop most of the body to the right. I thought a touch of hand would help.Don't ask why i thought that.:-) I thought about cropping to the left. I;ll see how that works Dave Quoting Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Great capture Dave. If it were mine I'd crop the hands off the RH side some off the LH side just to the left of the elbow. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Peso Margo's got the cargo http://www.caughtinmotion.com/paw/hailey-granma.jpg A cutsie one from the pony inspection on Labour day weekend. Perfectly named weekend BTW, did 21 hours on my holiday.LOL Anyway, the farm owners new filly(Grandma), won over all Champ for the three day inspection, and she is showing off the new winner to grand daughter Hailey.Filly is 4 months old and she's Margo. Not the Margo thats got the cargo , even though Regies got the rig, by.:-) D1h and 35-70 F2.8 Comments welcome. Dave Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Peso Margo's got the cargo
Thanks Dave Quoting J and K Messervy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yep, lovely moment well captured. James - Original Message - From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 9:54 AM Subject: Re: Peso Margo's got the cargo Nice shot, Dave! You really caught the moment. I like it. -- Best regards, Bruce Friday, September 15, 2006, 4:33:30 PM, you wrote: DJB http://www.caughtinmotion.com/paw/hailey-granma.jpg DJB A cutsie one from the pony inspection on Labour day weekend. Perfectly DJB named weekend BTW, did 21 hours on my holiday.LOL DJB Anyway, the farm owners new filly(Grandma), won over all Champ for the DJB three day inspection, and she is showing off the new winner to grand DJB daughter Hailey.Filly is 4 months old and she's Margo. DJB Not the Margo thats got the cargo , even though Regies got the rig, by.:-) DJB D1h and 35-70 F2.8 DJB Comments welcome. DJB Dave DJB Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Green button and ergonomics.
I wish he'd stop dogging us about them. Bob S. On 9/16/06, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 16/9/06, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: I got it! I just thought it was too crap to comment on. Besides, these pun threads are becoming too predictable. Most of the replies seem like Pavlova reflexes. But you must admit a hunger for them. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: No wireless with RTF in K10D :-(
Okay, that's why using the popup flash as a slave trigger works in my studio. I always shoot in manual exposure mode there. And since I haven't tried it more than once or twice, it may well have been with a K lens. Paul On Sep 15, 2006, at 11:49 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: That only works if the built-in flash is not in P-TTL mode, otherwise the first flash will trigger the external flash and not the flash at time of exposure. I use slave-triggered flash all the time, but not with the built-in flash unit as I have to switch to manual exposure mode and take the lens off the A setting on the aperture ring to do it. I've never used wirelessly controlled TTL flash with any system so I guess I don't really know what I'm missing. ;-) Godfrey On Sep 15, 2006, at 4:16 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: The on-camera pop-up flash will trigger another flash without wires if the other flash is in slave mode. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D kit lens
Even 25 years ago Cambridge on the decline. By then 47th Street Photo had proved that you could make money selling at near wholesale prices if you did it efficiently. Cambridge was already well on its way to becoming a scam shop when I landed in New York in 1980. Olden was still hanging on to some pro and used equipment business but was losing the price and mass market war badly. On Sep 16, 2006, at 12:47 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Sep 15, 2006, at 2:44 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: It took me awhile to screw up my nerve to order from them, though, since my first mail order experience with a NYC camera store was with Cambridge.. You poor bastard... Sigh. I remember a time when Cambridge Camera was one of the better NYC outfits. That was, oh, about 25 years ago. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: No wireless with RTF in K10D :-(
No. You have to do it the old fashioned way. But that's the only way I shoot in my studio or when I use studio strobes on location. With digital it's not very difficult. You don't even have to do any math. Guess, shoot and look. Once you know your equipment, it's easy to come within a stop first try. Paul On Sep 16, 2006, at 4:29 AM, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Fri, 15 Sep 2006, Paul Stenquist wrote: The on-camera pop-up flash will trigger another flash without wires if the other flash is in slave mode. In mettered TTL for the slave? Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Relative Size of K10D vs. *ist-Ds
I have 12 inches, but I don't use it as a rule. Paul On Sep 16, 2006, at 4:46 AM, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Fri, 15 Sep 2006, P. J. Alling wrote: Decimal inches seem so rational, and inches are more of a human scale than millimeters. Greeks call the centimeter the finger (width thereof). What is the inch associated with on humans? A 12th of a largish penis? No, make it a tenth. Actually, don't make it a tenth. The advantage of the old money is that 12 is divided by more numbers than 10. Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies
Sure. But. These days it seems a Limited means a pancake. Is that what we want? Pancakes are cool, but faster primes are what I need. I sure could use a fast 30mm too, like the Sigma 30 f:1.4 If I have to choose between fast lenses and compact lenses, fast lenses are what I'd go for. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: 16. september 2006 13:20 To: PDML Subject: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies True, Pentax has a number of 50mm/1.4 lenses that will work well on the DSLR's, but I wonder why there's no 50mm DA lens. That seems like a big hole in the lineup. I'd like to see such a lens - smaller and lighter perhaps than the FA etc., with that focusing clutch thing, and, of course, optimized for the digital use. Does anyone else think this would be a nice addition to the DA line? Maybe even a 50mm Ltd? Shel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Pentax 750Z
On 9/16/06, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My lad had a cheapy Powershot A310 from eBay (£39) but he took it on a school trip and put it in his big bag - that went in the coach (bus) underneath storage compartment and when retrieved, the LCD was cracked and unreadable. The camera was fine - it would take shots but you couldn't see anything on the screen, menus, nothin'. We also have a G2 camera and that has the flip LCD, hence I was looking for something similar. The Pentax 750Z fit the bill, but not many about. A retailer advertised 3 refurbished / grad A stock at £139 each so went for it. I imagine the plastics are probably on a par with Canon's but the flip screen will be a bonus as I presume it can be flipped closed (with the screen facing inwards) like the Canon. Sounds like a decent deal. Christie and I bought one a little over a year ago. It's been a pretty good camera. Read on. Short of getting him a Leica M8, it will hopefully do. Even then, these LCDs are so vulnerable. Anyone make a really robust camera with a way of protecting the LCD? The 750z is fairly robust. However, the hinge/pivot for the screen isn't. Ours always felt un-precise. It failed before the warranty had expired, so we sent it back to Pentax. It took them about four weeks to get it back to us, but all is now well. It still feels wonky (just like new!) Couple of other gripes: The viewfinder is very, very small. And the eye point is just that, a point. It took a while for me to get the hang of using it, getting my eye in just the right place. It also doesn't cover anywhere near the full frame. 80%, maybe. Typical PS shutter lag. No RAW. (TIFF and JPG only.) Write times. (We have a couple 256MB cards and a 1GB card. The write times on the 1GB card become excruciatingly slow once the card is about half full. It could be the card. I don't know. The 256MB cards are fine.) Low light photos (night sky, fireworks, funky night-time trailing shutter flash kid photos) require an obscene amount of time to clear the buffer. The good stuff: It travels well and has nice ergonomics for a brick. The control lay-out makes sense. My hands aren't aching after holding the damned thing for an hour. The pivoting LCD is readable in bright conditions. If you're ever stuck in a crowd you can hold the camera over your head and keep shooting. Waist level viewing is nice if you want to be discreet. It also very nice on a tripod, not having to bend down to camera level. Your son's going to love the LCD. Image quality isn't bad. My wife routinely has 5x7 and 8x10 photographs printed. She only shoots JPG. The video function records in MOV. (I think this is dumb, but you Mac guys will probably like it.) I'm sure there are other aspects that I like and don't like, but it's early, last night's beer has worn off, and this morning's coffee hasn't kicked in. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Relative Size of K10D vs. *ist-Ds
Darn. You beat me:-) Paul On Sep 16, 2006, at 5:21 AM, Cotty wrote: On 15/9/06, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: Decimal inches seem so rational, and inches are more of a human scale than millimeters. I've got 305mm but never use it as a rule. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Relative Size of K10D vs. *ist-Ds
Cotty's is bigger by 0.2mm. Apparently he has 305mm Dave At 08:36 PM 16/09/2006, Paul Stenquist wrote: I have 12 inches, but I don't use it as a rule. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: test
Sorry, we all moved and apparently someone forgot to tell you. Dave At 08:37 PM 16/09/2006, cbwaters wrote: still there? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Spot the Pantex
Hi, I'm reading Journey to the Centre of the Earth by Richard Nicholas Crane. It's about an ultralight bicycle ride they made in the mid 80s from Chittagong in Bangladesh to the point on the earth's surface that is most remote from the sea in all directions - the centre of the earth - just north of Urumqi. 3313 miles in 58 days, across the Himalayas, on racing bikes. Guess what? They took a Pentax MX and 3 lenses: 28, 50 and 120mm. They had previously taken the MX to the summit of Kilimanjaro, and the length of the Himalayas. Quote: Eventually the light meter shook loose, but only after 1000 kilometres of dirt road - most other cameras we have tried in the past fall to bits much quicker -- Cheers, Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
test
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RE: PESO - Our Own Mike Wilson
On 9/16/06, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Plastic surgery's great, isn't it? I mean who wouldn't want it? http://www.hollywoodrag.com/index.php?/celebrity2/category/C194/ I can hardly wait 'til I'm old and ugly... That's just too easy... Dave :o) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Spot the Pantex
Quoting Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, Guess what? They took a Pentax MX and 3 lenses: 28, 50 and 120mm. No film.?? Dave -- Cheers, Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Spot the Pantex
On 9/16/06, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, Guess what? They took a Pentax MX and 3 lenses: 28, 50 and 120mm. No film.?? That's why it lasted so long. They never actually used it. Dave ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Spot the Pantex
Hi, Guess what? They took a Pentax MX and 3 lenses: 28, 50 and 120mm. No film.?? They thought it was digital. Actually, they shot Kodachrome 64 and Tri-X. 22 rolls altogether. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies
The small 70mm f2.8? shown on the new K10D photos has me thinking. It is a pancake size lens. Perhaps Pentax feels it can seriously change lens design with shake reduction. Maybe they think we don't need the fast/big glass any longer. Regards, Bob S. On 9/16/06, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure. But. These days it seems a Limited means a pancake. Is that what we want? Pancakes are cool, but faster primes are what I need. I sure could use a fast 30mm too, like the Sigma 30 f:1.4 If I have to choose between fast lenses and compact lenses, fast lenses are what I'd go for. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: 16. september 2006 13:20 To: PDML Subject: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies True, Pentax has a number of 50mm/1.4 lenses that will work well on the DSLR's, but I wonder why there's no 50mm DA lens. That seems like a big hole in the lineup. I'd like to see such a lens - smaller and lighter perhaps than the FA etc., with that focusing clutch thing, and, of course, optimized for the digital use. Does anyone else think this would be a nice addition to the DA line? Maybe even a 50mm Ltd? Shel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PDML Mini-FAQ Link
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Re: Pentax 750Z
On Sep 16, 2006, at 3:53 AM, Cotty wrote: ... Even then, these LCDs are so vulnerable. Anyone make a really robust camera with a way of protecting the LCD? ... How about a case for the camera? I keep my Fuji F30 in a cell phone case... doesn't add much to its size, is quick and easy to pull in and out, and protects that big LCD very nicely. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D extra tidbits from Japanese page
On 15/09/06, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, the D70 was around 90,000/month and I'd expect the D80 is similar. The XTi is probably a little more. No idea on the Sonolta. I don't know where these numbers came from but if true makes interesting reading. http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=20055021 -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies
On 17/09/06, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The small 70mm f2.8? shown on the new K10D photos has me thinking. It is a pancake size lens. Perhaps Pentax feels it can seriously change lens design with shake reduction. Maybe they think we don't need the fast/big glass any longer. I don't like talk like this, it's scary to hear as a photographer, lets hope the photographic market isn't becoming as dumbed down as other consumer areas :-( -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PK: shame women does not do parkour in the swimsuits
http://roman.blakout.net/?year=2006s=0category=actionsportblog=20060916163949 but guys do and if sky is so blue, shooting em flying high above the roofs of medieval old town is almost a must. Your feedback welcome. One. -- home http://roman.blakout.net/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Relative Size of K10D vs. *ist-Ds
David Savage wrote: Cotty's is bigger by 0.2mm. Apparently he has 305mm Dave At 08:36 PM 16/09/2006, Paul Stenquist wrote: I have 12 inches, but I don't use it as a rule. Paul I knew a girl who had a foot fetish ... but she'd settle for seven or eight inches. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies
I don't see that they'd be able to make a 50mm f/1.4-1.2 lens much smaller than the current FA50/1.4 and it is a great performer. It would be much more to my liking if they released the same optics in a D-FA lens mount. A compact, pancake DA50/2.8 Limited might be neat, but I'd rather they did a compact DA28/2 Limited! Godfrey On Sep 16, 2006, at 4:19 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: True, Pentax has a number of 50mm/1.4 lenses that will work well on the DSLR's, but I wonder why there's no 50mm DA lens. That seems like a big hole in the lineup. I'd like to see such a lens - smaller and lighter perhaps than the FA etc., with that focusing clutch thing, and, of course, optimized for the digital use. Does anyone else think this would be a nice addition to the DA line? Maybe even a 50mm Ltd? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies
I would rather see a 60mm DA lens. If it's to be 50, then it should be a D FA so that it is compatible with analogue cameras like my MZ-S. Mike. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: September 16, 2006 3:20 AM To: PDML Subject: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies True, Pentax has a number of 50mm/1.4 lenses that will work well on the DSLR's, but I wonder why there's no 50mm DA lens. That seems like a big hole in the lineup. I'd like to see such a lens - smaller and lighter perhaps than the FA etc., with that focusing clutch thing, and, of course, optimized for the digital use. Does anyone else think this would be a nice addition to the DA line? Maybe even a 50mm Ltd? Shel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies
SR will never stop a moving subject. Moving subjects is main reason for my lust for fast glass. On the other hand, if Pentax came up with a Moving Subject Stopper, MSS... Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Sullivan Sent: 16. september 2006 16:03 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies The small 70mm f2.8? shown on the new K10D photos has me thinking. It is a pancake size lens. Perhaps Pentax feels it can seriously change lens design with shake reduction. Maybe they think we don't need the fast/big glass any longer. Regards, Bob S. On 9/16/06, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure. But. These days it seems a Limited means a pancake. Is that what we want? Pancakes are cool, but faster primes are what I need. I sure could use a fast 30mm too, like the Sigma 30 f:1.4 If I have to choose between fast lenses and compact lenses, fast lenses are what I'd go for. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: 16. september 2006 13:20 To: PDML Subject: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies True, Pentax has a number of 50mm/1.4 lenses that will work well on the DSLR's, but I wonder why there's no 50mm DA lens. That seems like a big hole in the lineup. I'd like to see such a lens - smaller and lighter perhaps than the FA etc., with that focusing clutch thing, and, of course, optimized for the digital use. Does anyone else think this would be a nice addition to the DA line? Maybe even a 50mm Ltd? Shel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Green button and ergonomics.
Unless you have the handstrap on it, where you can't quite reach it on the D. But it was a better location and design than the D's AE lock button, which I never could find without looking. I will agree that the location is better than on the DS/DL. So far I'm really liking the K100D's AE lock location, it falls right under my thumb, like the AE lock on Canon bodies does. Of the current lot, I'd say the K100D has the most refined interface, but that's unsurprising as it's the newest body. -Adam Jens Bladt wrote: I have owned two Pentax DSLR's: The D and the DL. The latter uses the AE-L for metering with non A-lenses. The D uses the Green Button. IMHO the green buton is more convenient (ergonomic) to use than the AE-L on the back side of the DL. When using the Green Button it is not necassary to remove the camera away form the eye. The button is right next to the shutter button - you'll easily find it - even in the dark. Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Tim Řsleby Sendt: 14. september 2006 14:37 Til: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Emne: Green button and ergonomics. I'm not familiar with the green button. I have a question about it and ergonomics. I'm a DS user. When using the pre A lenses I use the AE-L button. I'm told this does the same as the original green button. I'm using the thumb at the AE-L button. After getting used to it, it's no problem, it became a habit. When studying the new body, I see that the green button is where exposure compensation button is. Does this mean that I have to move my trigger finger? If that's the case, it looks like a drag. It seems much more convenient and faster to have one finger at each button. So. I guess my question is; can I use the AE-L button as I'm used to, or do I have to get used to use the two buttons with my trigger finger with the new body? From my point of view, the DS solution looks much better. But that might be just me, and my habits. Don't get me wrong. I do see the advantages of the two wheel interface. The only thing I find strange is that they have placed the green button near the trigger. What I don't understand why Pentax makes two opposite user interfaces. One user interface similar to the DS at the K100D, and green button interface at the K10D. If I'm right, this will make it very awkward to move from K100D to K10D, and backwards for those who want to keep the cheap camera as a backup body. So much for great ergonomics. Guess this makes me the first who has a real complaint about the K10D ;-) Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/448 - Release Date: 09/14/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/449 - Release Date: 09/15/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D sensitivity?
The material indicates that, but as teh firmware isn't settled and test items are known to have from 50-3200 rather than the advertised 100-1600, this may (and hopefully will) change before release. 3200 is quite useful in a pinch and I had missed it with my D50. -Adam Jens Bladt wrote: A question: Is it true that the K10D only offers ISO 100-1600? (no over ride to 3200 like the D) Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Shel Belinkoff Sendt: 16. september 2006 07:00 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Cc: Bill Lawlor Emne: Re: K10D power? Bill, My li'l ol' Sony uses LithIon bats, and I've been very happy with them. The camera came with a charger and cord, and I suspect the K10D would have both as well. I can't speak to the charger being able to use current in India - however, a quick email to Pentax should solve that issue. Twice in the past few months I've contacted Pentax on DSLR questions and their response has been both timely and helpful. I assume there are people outside the US who are using the same current that is found in India, so proper charging gear should be simple to find. Also, most well equipped travel shops carry current converters. Pentax claims about 500 shots on the LithIon bat with a % flash use. I suspect you might get as much as double that based on how you shoot and if you don't chimp too much. You will probably use the LCD screen a bit in the beginning, but once you become familiar with the camera, that use should substantially diminish. Shel [Original Message] From: Bill Lawlor I am very interested in buying a K10D asap. I plan to spent the month of January on a personal photo trip to India. I have little experience with high end digital cameras, but thanks to Shel I have enough experience to believe it is time to make the plunge into digital. My quandry is about the power supply for the K10D. I'm unfamiliar with L-ion batteries, chargers etc. What kind of capacity might I expect from a charged battery? I will use RAW files, flash very seldom, if at all. How long would it take to recharge the batteries? Will the charger work on Indian 200-220 50 cycle mains? Is the K10D a camera with wonderful features but tethered to a home/studio environment? What kind of company sells a camera using only L-ion batteies and lists a power cord for, I assume the battery charger, as an optional accessory? Obviously, nobody has actually used the K10D yet, but I'm hoping some members of the list have experience with L-ion powered cameras. I pray the answer is not get a K100D and a case of Lithium AA batteries. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/449 - Release Date: 09/15/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/449 - Release Date: 09/15/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Who needs SR, just get CSI Miami
On Sep 15, 2006, at 11:02 PM, David Savage wrote: I've seen a few eposodes where they take pictures holding the D/SLR out at arms length like a PS composing with the LCD. Well, they are actors after all, not photographers. Ur, um, well all but one of them are actors. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies
At f2.4, the 70 is about perfect for me. Essentially the same length and speed as the legendary Nikon 105 f2.5, which is a superb portrait lens. -Adam Bob Sullivan wrote: The small 70mm f2.8? shown on the new K10D photos has me thinking. It is a pancake size lens. Perhaps Pentax feels it can seriously change lens design with shake reduction. Maybe they think we don't need the fast/big glass any longer. Regards, Bob S. On 9/16/06, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure. But. These days it seems a Limited means a pancake. Is that what we want? Pancakes are cool, but faster primes are what I need. I sure could use a fast 30mm too, like the Sigma 30 f:1.4 If I have to choose between fast lenses and compact lenses, fast lenses are what I'd go for. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: 16. september 2006 13:20 To: PDML Subject: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies True, Pentax has a number of 50mm/1.4 lenses that will work well on the DSLR's, but I wonder why there's no 50mm DA lens. That seems like a big hole in the lineup. I'd like to see such a lens - smaller and lighter perhaps than the FA etc., with that focusing clutch thing, and, of course, optimized for the digital use. Does anyone else think this would be a nice addition to the DA line? Maybe even a 50mm Ltd? Shel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies
Shel Belinkoff wrote: True, Pentax has a number of 50mm/1.4 lenses that will work well on the DSLR's, but I wonder why there's no 50mm DA lens. That seems like a big hole in the lineup. I'd like to see such a lens - smaller and lighter perhaps than the FA etc., with that focusing clutch thing, and, of course, optimized for the digital use. Does anyone else think this would be a nice addition to the DA line? Maybe even a 50mm Ltd? Shel I'd prefer a D-FA myself, but I'd like to be able to use it on my LX and MX as well. A 50mm f1.2 D-FA Limited would be a dream lens. Especially if it came out for less money than the Canon 50 f1.2L. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies
I didn't know that. I thought Ltd meant/implied higher quality optics, not particularly pancake format. A 31/1.8 wouldn't work for you? Shel [Original Message] From: Tim Øsleby Sure. But. These days it seems a Limited means a pancake. Is that what we want? Pancakes are cool, but faster primes are what I need. I sure could use a fast 30mm too, like the Sigma 30 f:1.4 If I have to choose between fast lenses and compact lenses, fast lenses are what I'd go for. True, Pentax has a number of 50mm/1.4 lenses that will work well on the DSLR's, but I wonder why there's no 50mm DA lens. That seems like a big hole in the lineup. I'd like to see such a lens - smaller and lighter perhaps than the FA etc., with that focusing clutch thing, and, of course, optimized for the digital use. Does anyone else think this would be a nice addition to the DA line? Maybe even a 50mm Ltd? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies
I don't think we need _big_ glass, but faster glass is always beneficial. Shel [Original Message] From: Bob Sullivan The small 70mm f2.8? shown on the new K10D photos has me thinking. It is a pancake size lens. Perhaps Pentax feels it can seriously change lens design with shake reduction. Maybe they think we don't need the fast/big glass any longer. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D extra tidbits from Japanese page
On 9/16/06 10:23 AM, Digital Image Studio, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know where these numbers came from but if true makes interesting reading. http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=20055021 There was exactly the kind of info you were looking for in Japan when they were talking about the same subject (supply concern). That was about a couple of weeks ago and I did not jot it down. But AFIR, the largest production was D80 at 80,000.mo followed by the new Rebel (400D?). I do remember that K10D was 13,000 and K100D was 14,000. So, DP Review number for the Rebel is somewhat in question. This explains the glut of D80 floating around but Pentax numbers do appear small. Perhaps they are just going by the expected market share, which I am sure has to be revised considerably now. It is interesting that K10D number is smaller than that of K100D. But Pentax always say in their press release for new launches that the monthly production figure is during the start up. Also, they said in the past that fair portion of the price of bodies/lenses includes warehousing and other distribution cost. They might be following just in time delivery system like that followed in auto industry. This might be good in reducing the cost significantly as long as they have sufficient production capacity. But either way, everybody is expecting varying level of delivery delay, one of the reasons for which is large potential of converts from other brands or addition of K10D in their gear inventory etc. Dedicated Pentax users should be given a priority ticket :-). But I still think this is good for Pentax as they made an honest effort to produce a camera people want, and they should be rewarded. If they overcome this potential supply problem, I hope they make enough money to accelerate the production of more creative products, and along the way, get rid of Mr.Abe who apparently knew the inside info and made a quick buck. Ken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies
Why couldn't they make a smaller 50/1.4? Yes, a nice, fast 28 would be wonderful, and a 35/1.4 would be a kick as well. Jumping to a 50/2.8 would seem like a real step backwards for any number of reasons. Shel [Original Message] From: Godfrey DiGiorgi I don't see that they'd be able to make a 50mm f/1.4-1.2 lens much smaller than the current FA50/1.4 and it is a great performer. It would be much more to my liking if they released the same optics in a D-FA lens mount. A compact, pancake DA50/2.8 Limited might be neat, but I'd rather they did a compact DA28/2 Limited! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies
Talk like what, Rob? Do you mean the more ready acceptance of slower lenses? I think we've seen that dumbing down with the prevalence of slower, variable aperture zooms. Shel [Original Message] From: Digital Image Studio The small 70mm f2.8? shown on the new K10D photos has me thinking. It is a pancake size lens. Perhaps Pentax feels it can seriously change lens design with shake reduction. Maybe they think we don't need the fast/big glass any longer. I don't like talk like this, it's scary to hear as a photographer, lets hope the photographic market isn't becoming as dumbed down as other consumer areas :-( -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies
Haven't they done something like that with the PS cameras - Pet mode and child mode? Shel [Original Message] From: Tim Øsleby On the other hand, if Pentax came up with a Moving Subject Stopper, MSS... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies
On 9/16/06, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SR will never stop a moving subject. Moving subjects is main reason for my lust for fast glass. On the other hand, if Pentax came up with a Moving Subject Stopper, MSS... Wrong company. Winchester or Remington come to mind. Though Pentax could supply the scope. Dave (Sorry, bad taste I know) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies
There's is a huge hole in the line up for lenses above 100mm. Though I guess this was because they were waiting to implement SSM. Dave On 9/16/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That would seem redundant as there's already F/FA 50mm lenses, and making a DFA would require a larger lens than just a DA, right? I'd accept a 60mm DA ... what I really think is that there's a hole in the current lineup that's equivalent to, or approximates, the standard portrait lens - 75mm - 90mm. Yeah, I know there's no standard for portrait lenses -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies
That would seem redundant as there's already F/FA 50mm lenses, and making a DFA would require a larger lens than just a DA, right? I'd accept a 60mm DA ... what I really think is that there's a hole in the current lineup that's equivalent to, or approximates, the standard portrait lens - 75mm - 90mm. Yeah, I know there's no standard for portrait lenses Shel [Original Message] From: Michael Perham I would rather see a 60mm DA lens. If it's to be 50, then it should be a D FA so that it is compatible with analogue cameras like my MZ-S. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies
Because you need a 35.7mm diameter front element for a 50mm f1.4, or a 41.6mm front element for a 50mm f1.2. The Pentax FA 50mm f1.4 is already about the smallest on the market, at it's size, I'd suspect the size of the optics necessary for the speed are more of a limiting factor than the image circle or barrel design. I would liek to see an updated D-FA version. And there's already a 50mm f2.8 with Quick-shift focus, the D-FA Macro unit. Shel Belinkoff wrote: Why couldn't they make a smaller 50/1.4? Yes, a nice, fast 28 would be wonderful, and a 35/1.4 would be a kick as well. Jumping to a 50/2.8 would seem like a real step backwards for any number of reasons. Shel [Original Message] From: Godfrey DiGiorgi I don't see that they'd be able to make a 50mm f/1.4-1.2 lens much smaller than the current FA50/1.4 and it is a great performer. It would be much more to my liking if they released the same optics in a D-FA lens mount. A compact, pancake DA50/2.8 Limited might be neat, but I'd rather they did a compact DA28/2 Limited! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies
You are getting more DOF with the 70mm though.. it would be nice if it was faster to make up for this. -R Adam Maas wrote: At f2.4, the 70 is about perfect for me. Essentially the same length and speed as the legendary Nikon 105 f2.5, which is a superb portrait lens. -Adam Bob Sullivan wrote: The small 70mm f2.8? shown on the new K10D photos has me thinking. It is a pancake size lens. Perhaps Pentax feels it can seriously change lens design with shake reduction. Maybe they think we don't need the fast/big glass any longer. Regards, Bob S. On 9/16/06, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure. But. These days it seems a Limited means a pancake. Is that what we want? Pancakes are cool, but faster primes are what I need. I sure could use a fast 30mm too, like the Sigma 30 f:1.4 If I have to choose between fast lenses and compact lenses, fast lenses are what I'd go for. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: 16. september 2006 13:20 To: PDML Subject: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies True, Pentax has a number of 50mm/1.4 lenses that will work well on the DSLR's, but I wonder why there's no 50mm DA lens. That seems like a big hole in the lineup. I'd like to see such a lens - smaller and lighter perhaps than the FA etc., with that focusing clutch thing, and, of course, optimized for the digital use. Does anyone else think this would be a nice addition to the DA line? Maybe even a 50mm Ltd? Shel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies
I only said that Limited _seems_ to mean pancake. Looking at the new DA Limiteds, they are all pancakes. But this does not mean that this has to be the case in future. I don't know for a fact that a 31 f:1,8 wouldn't do. I've never tried it. But I have shot with a Vivitar 28 f:2. Without SR the pictures came out blurred with 800 ASA Ectachrome. With SR and one third step faster, I really don't know. SR doesnt stop moving subjects. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: 16. september 2006 17:23 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies I didn't know that. I thought Ltd meant/implied higher quality optics, not particularly pancake format. A 31/1.8 wouldn't work for you? Shel [Original Message] From: Tim Øsleby Sure. But. These days it seems a Limited means a pancake. Is that what we want? Pancakes are cool, but faster primes are what I need. I sure could use a fast 30mm too, like the Sigma 30 f:1.4 If I have to choose between fast lenses and compact lenses, fast lenses are what I'd go for. True, Pentax has a number of 50mm/1.4 lenses that will work well on the DSLR's, but I wonder why there's no 50mm DA lens. That seems like a big hole in the lineup. I'd like to see such a lens - smaller and lighter perhaps than the FA etc., with that focusing clutch thing, and, of course, optimized for the digital use. Does anyone else think this would be a nice addition to the DA line? Maybe even a 50mm Ltd? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies
Settling disturbances with guns ain't my style. Flash is the obvious solution. But I dislike destroying the natural the light. And using flash at a concerts is a party killer. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Savage Sent: 16. september 2006 17:48 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies On 9/16/06, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SR will never stop a moving subject. Moving subjects is main reason for my lust for fast glass. On the other hand, if Pentax came up with a Moving Subject Stopper, MSS... Wrong company. Winchester or Remington come to mind. Though Pentax could supply the scope. Dave (Sorry, bad taste I know) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies
True. -Adam Ryan Brooks wrote: You are getting more DOF with the 70mm though.. it would be nice if it was faster to make up for this. -R Adam Maas wrote: At f2.4, the 70 is about perfect for me. Essentially the same length and speed as the legendary Nikon 105 f2.5, which is a superb portrait lens. -Adam Bob Sullivan wrote: The small 70mm f2.8? shown on the new K10D photos has me thinking. It is a pancake size lens. Perhaps Pentax feels it can seriously change lens design with shake reduction. Maybe they think we don't need the fast/big glass any longer. Regards, Bob S. On 9/16/06, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure. But. These days it seems a Limited means a pancake. Is that what we want? Pancakes are cool, but faster primes are what I need. I sure could use a fast 30mm too, like the Sigma 30 f:1.4 If I have to choose between fast lenses and compact lenses, fast lenses are what I'd go for. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: 16. september 2006 13:20 To: PDML Subject: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies True, Pentax has a number of 50mm/1.4 lenses that will work well on the DSLR's, but I wonder why there's no 50mm DA lens. That seems like a big hole in the lineup. I'd like to see such a lens - smaller and lighter perhaps than the FA etc., with that focusing clutch thing, and, of course, optimized for the digital use. Does anyone else think this would be a nice addition to the DA line? Maybe even a 50mm Ltd? Shel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies
You didn't!? Didn't Boris bring his when he came to visit? Shel [Original Message] From: Tim Øsleby I don't know for a fact that a 31 f:1,8 wouldn't do. I've never tried it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies
I'm not sure that's correct ... I'll have to check the diameter of my Leica glass. It seems to me that the lenses for my Leica, compared to the same focal length/aperture of my Pentax glass, are smaller. Shel [Original Message] From: Adam Maas Because you need a 35.7mm diameter front element for a 50mm f1.4, or a 41.6mm front element for a 50mm f1.2. Why couldn't they make a smaller 50/1.4? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D extra tidbits from Japanese page
Yes, I think concern regarding a shortage is quite legitimate. I guess that's part of a being a small fish in a big pond. Paul On Sep 16, 2006, at 10:23 AM, Digital Image Studio wrote: On 15/09/06, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, the D70 was around 90,000/month and I'd expect the D80 is similar. The XTi is probably a little more. No idea on the Sonolta. I don't know where these numbers came from but if true makes interesting reading. http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=20055021 -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies
It's obviously not the case. Witness the new fast DA zooms. We're going to see a lot more than consumer lenses from Pentax. I think a fast 50 will eventually make the lineup, although for now Pentax probably figures they have that niche pretty well covered with the DA 40.2.8 and the FA 50/1.4. Paul On Sep 16, 2006, at 10:26 AM, Digital Image Studio wrote: On 17/09/06, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The small 70mm f2.8? shown on the new K10D photos has me thinking. It is a pancake size lens. Perhaps Pentax feels it can seriously change lens design with shake reduction. Maybe they think we don't need the fast/big glass any longer. I don't like talk like this, it's scary to hear as a photographer, lets hope the photographic market isn't becoming as dumbed down as other consumer areas :-( -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PK: shame women does not do parkour in the swimsuits
Some good shots. What's going on here? Are they jumping from roof to roof? Not my idea of fun. Paul On Sep 16, 2006, at 10:27 AM, Roman wrote: http://roman.blakout.net/? year=2006s=0category=actionsportblog=20060916163949 but guys do and if sky is so blue, shooting em flying high above the roofs of medieval old town is almost a must. Your feedback welcome. One. -- home http://roman.blakout.net/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies
Shel, They are, because they have a far simpler aperture design. No aperture coupling or full-aperture mechanism is required for an RF lens, not to mention a smaller-diameter mount (which allows smaller-diameter barrels). But even so, fast RF glass isn't all that much smaller than a Pentax 50mm f1.4 of SMC-M or later design. -Adam Shel Belinkoff wrote: I'm not sure that's correct ... I'll have to check the diameter of my Leica glass. It seems to me that the lenses for my Leica, compared to the same focal length/aperture of my Pentax glass, are smaller. Shel [Original Message] From: Adam Maas Because you need a 35.7mm diameter front element for a 50mm f1.4, or a 41.6mm front element for a 50mm f1.2. Why couldn't they make a smaller 50/1.4? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies
Faster + bigger. We also need big glass in the sense of long lenses. SSM 400 and 600 mm lenses will probably appear some day. Paul On Sep 16, 2006, at 11:25 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: I don't think we need _big_ glass, but faster glass is always beneficial. Shel [Original Message] From: Bob Sullivan The small 70mm f2.8? shown on the new K10D photos has me thinking. It is a pancake size lens. Perhaps Pentax feels it can seriously change lens design with shake reduction. Maybe they think we don't need the fast/big glass any longer. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies
I'd like to see a 50mm 1.4 Limited in the DA series. I would prefer that to the 40 2.8 pancake. Of course, since I'm old fashioned, I'd like it to be an FA-DA with an aperture ring...but I could live without it...maybe. How about this: Instead of a 50mm, how about bringing back the 55mm f1.8?(in keeping with the somewhat unusual actual focal length premise of the Limited series)? -Brendan --- Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: True, Pentax has a number of 50mm/1.4 lenses that will work well on the DSLR's, but I wonder why there's no 50mm DA lens. That seems like a big hole in the lineup. I'd like to see such a lens - smaller and lighter perhaps than the FA etc., with that focusing clutch thing, and, of course, optimized for the digital use. Does anyone else think this would be a nice addition to the DA line? Maybe even a 50mm Ltd? Shel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D extra tidbits from Japanese page
LOL. Tom, Adam Rob received an ear bashing were labeled negative a couple of days ago for saying that. I guess we can add Paul to the list of negative naysayers. Dave ;-) On 9/17/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I think concern regarding a shortage is quite legitimate. I guess that's part of a being a small fish in a big pond. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
problems with (Pentax) Optio 750Z
Dear all, when I had to buy a compact digital camera, I looked at the cameras in the range of 7 megapixels like Olympus C7000, Canon G6 and S70 and of course -since I am a Pentaxist (MX, MZ-5n and various K lenses)- the Pentax Optio 750Z. I decided to go for the Pentax only because I was convinced by the image quality, compared to the other cameras. I compared many samples shoots on the review sites (like DPReview, Steve's Digicams etc.). To many the Optio 750Z pictures looked to be too noisy, in my opinion they are more true. Even compared to other 6-8 megapixels SRL like Canon 350D, they are better, more real and less flat. May be because the noise look similar to the film, in my perspective. But even our eyes have the noise. If you look at a blue sky, the blue is not so flat as from some digital cameras. Ok, that's the point: I changed three Optio 750Z, and all three have had some problem. The first one was giving images with a soft corner, exactly the same issue showed in the DP Review, but in another corner! (look at the bottom of this page: http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentax750z/page15.asp) I gave it back, the shop changed it with another one that instead showed some hot pixels, actually two 2x2 pixels zone were stuck and one was near the middle. It is not nice to have 4 pixels always white near the middle of the image, even at ISO 200 at 1/40s. I gave it back again, but this time they refunded me without changing it anymore. I again insisted (!) to have my 750Z from another shop, so I bought my third one, believing that that time luck would be from my side... in facts the third Optio 750Z was perfect: no soft corners, no dead nor hot pixels. But after some 1500 shoots, even the third one become to show some 2x2 pixels areas hot and stuck. Actually at ISO 100 at 1s there are three/four 2x2 areas with white/pink pixels when shooted in complete dark. I am so frustrated, because I really love this camera, plenty of features, even with some pro features, I love the image quality and the lens performance. But I am also disappointed from Pentax because 3 out of 3 cameras esperienced problems. Now I am afraid even to ask reparation under guarantee because I am afraid they could change the camera with a refurbished one with the soft corner issue. Some say that to repair the stuck pixels they re-map the sensor in order to interpolate the hot/dead pixels. Is it true? Some of you experienced some dead/hot/stuck pixels with other Pentax cameras? Thanks, marco -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO: Fungus
My *ist D has caught a huge fungus today: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/24451/ Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Pancho Hasselbach Sendt: 14. september 2006 22:46 Til: pdml@pdml.net Emne: FS: 1.2/55mm Hi gang, I've got a spare Revuenon 1.2/55mm for sale. It's the Tomioka built one which Toshiko Takinami refers favourably to on Stan's site. It has 9 aperture blades, f-stops from 1.2 through 16, and 58mm filter thread. Glass is clean without any marks. No fungus or dirt. Snappy aperture. Slight marks of wear on the focus ring, on the bottom when focussed to infinity, that is where the short distances are printed. Focus is smooth, probably a tad less on the short end, but far away from rough. Both caps included. Pictures of the lens and a sample picture on request. 85 EUR plus shipping. Also for sale: An SMC-M 3.5/135, in good shape and technically perfect state, with both caps and lens case, for 35 EUR plus shipping. Oh, and I've got an SFXn for sale on ebay: http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=170027315907 I'm off until sunday night, so don't be angry on me if I don't answer any questions or request until then. Cheers, Pancho -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/448 - Release Date: 09/14/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/449 - Release Date: 09/15/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K110D - Why bother?
Paul Stenquist wrote: I process some RAW files for one of my colleagues. The ISO 800 pics from her Canon 20D are noticeably more noisy than the 800ISO pics from my *istD. However, I too expect the 10D to be better than both. Paul I own(ed) both an *ist D and a 20D and processed 1000s of pictures from each. Hundreds from each at ISO 800 and above, and I can say with great confidence thatt the 20D kicks the *ist D's butt with noise performance at all levels. The 10D is better than the *ist D but worse than the 20D based on my observations. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Fungus
Great shot. -Adam Jens Bladt wrote: My *ist D has caught a huge fungus today: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/24451/ Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Pancho Hasselbach Sendt: 14. september 2006 22:46 Til: pdml@pdml.net Emne: FS: 1.2/55mm Hi gang, I've got a spare Revuenon 1.2/55mm for sale. It's the Tomioka built one which Toshiko Takinami refers favourably to on Stan's site. It has 9 aperture blades, f-stops from 1.2 through 16, and 58mm filter thread. Glass is clean without any marks. No fungus or dirt. Snappy aperture. Slight marks of wear on the focus ring, on the bottom when focussed to infinity, that is where the short distances are printed. Focus is smooth, probably a tad less on the short end, but far away from rough. Both caps included. Pictures of the lens and a sample picture on request. 85 EUR plus shipping. Also for sale: An SMC-M 3.5/135, in good shape and technically perfect state, with both caps and lens case, for 35 EUR plus shipping. Oh, and I've got an SFXn for sale on ebay: http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=170027315907 I'm off until sunday night, so don't be angry on me if I don't answer any questions or request until then. Cheers, Pancho -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/448 - Release Date: 09/14/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/449 - Release Date: 09/15/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO - Piaggio
A completely Pentax PESO from me for the first time in a long time. http://www.flickr.com/photos/mawz/244670476/ Or for non-Flickrites (And larger) http://static.flickr.com/98/244670476_9452ca7abf_b.jpg K100D, SMC-M 50mm f2 wide open at 1/100. ISO 400 and SR on. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K110D - Why bother?
Christian wrote: Paul Stenquist wrote: I process some RAW files for one of my colleagues. The ISO 800 pics from her Canon 20D are noticeably more noisy than the 800ISO pics from my *istD. However, I too expect the 10D to be better than both. Paul I own(ed) both an *ist D and a 20D and processed 1000s of pictures from each. Hundreds from each at ISO 800 and above, and I can say with great confidence thatt the 20D kicks the *ist D's butt with noise performance at all levels. The 10D is better than the *ist D but worse than the 20D based on my observations. Oops I realize now when you said 10D you meant K10D (thought you meant Canon 10D) My bad. I expect the K10D to have better noise performance than the 20D and 6MP *ist derivatives. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Our Own Mike Wilson
Fortunately, I get better looking every year (I was a really ugly child), so I do not need that stuff. Now if they would just come up with something that would reverse my brain turning into mush. -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Bob W wrote: Bob W wrote: That's a bit rich considering every American male over 45 (and many of the females) looks like Kenny Rogers! I once saw Frans Lanting in Mike's eyebrows. -- Cheers, Bob Is that Kenny Rogers before or after the botox??? annsan who DOESN'T look like that Plastic surgery's great, isn't it? I mean who wouldn't want it? http://www.hollywoodrag.com/index.php?/celebrity2/category/C194/ I can hardly wait 'til I'm old and ugly... Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies
Tim Øsleby wrote: On Behalf Of Bob Sullivan The small 70mm f2.8? shown on the new K10D photos has me thinking. It is a pancake size lens. Perhaps Pentax feels it can seriously change lens design with shake reduction. Maybe they think we don't need the fast/big glass any longer. SR will never stop a moving subject. Moving subjects is main reason for my lust for fast glass. A bright viewfinder in dark shooting conditions - before sunrise or after sunset - is why I want fast lenses. SR won't help there either :) -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies
Ryan Brooks wrote: Adam Maas wrote: At f2.4, the 70 is about perfect for me. Essentially the same length and speed as the legendary Nikon 105 f2.5, which is a superb portrait lens. You are getting more DOF with the 70mm though. Not true. Not at the same subject magnification, anyway. (And that's what you'll be doing if you compare both lenses as portrait lenses.) -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies
Boris had it with him, off course. I think he brings it along wherever he goes. At night I saw him down by the water fumbling with it, whispering my precious. I really had trouble falling to sleep, thinking about the things the man is going thru. He is a brave little creature, so he generously offered me to try it. I declined, seeing what the powerful gem of a lens had done to him. Seriously. I stayed away from it. I had to buy a new laptop because my desktop had broken down, so I couldnt afford LBA right then. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: 16. september 2006 18:07 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies You didn't!? Didn't Boris bring his when he came to visit? Shel [Original Message] From: Tim Øsleby I don't know for a fact that a 31 f:1,8 wouldn't do. I've never tried it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies
On 16/9/06, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed: A 50mm f1.2 D-FA Limited would be a dream lens. Especially if it came out for less money than the Canon 50 f1.2L. You mean the 50mm f/1 ? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies
Rethink that, Adam. You need center elements bigger than that. The front element has to be larger still. The aperture openings are the size you state. And since they outlawed the use of stuff like thorium glass, the elements have to be larger than they did in older lenses (that is one of the reasons why current high-speed lenses are so damn bulky). -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Adam Maas wrote: Because you need a 35.7mm diameter front element for a 50mm f1.4, or a 41.6mm front element for a 50mm f1.2. The Pentax FA 50mm f1.4 is already about the smallest on the market, at it's size, I'd suspect the size of the optics necessary for the speed are more of a limiting factor than the image circle or barrel design. I would liek to see an updated D-FA version. And there's already a 50mm f2.8 with Quick-shift focus, the D-FA Macro unit. Shel Belinkoff wrote: Why couldn't they make a smaller 50/1.4? Yes, a nice, fast 28 would be wonderful, and a 35/1.4 would be a kick as well. Jumping to a 50/2.8 would seem like a real step backwards for any number of reasons. Shel [Original Message] From: Godfrey DiGiorgi I don't see that they'd be able to make a 50mm f/1.4-1.2 lens much smaller than the current FA50/1.4 and it is a great performer. It would be much more to my liking if they released the same optics in a D-FA lens mount. A compact, pancake DA50/2.8 Limited might be neat, but I'd rather they did a compact DA28/2 Limited! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies
But a really good rangefinder would. tiny grin -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Mark Roberts wrote: A bright viewfinder in dark shooting conditions - before sunrise or after sunset - is why I want fast lenses. SR won't help there either -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: K10D sensitivity?
Yes, Adam.ISO 3200 is still quite usefull. These are all ISO 3200 shots: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/sets/72157594264219819/ Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Adam Maas Sendt: 16. september 2006 17:10 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: K10D sensitivity? The material indicates that, but as teh firmware isn't settled and test items are known to have from 50-3200 rather than the advertised 100-1600, this may (and hopefully will) change before release. 3200 is quite useful in a pinch and I had missed it with my D50. -Adam Jens Bladt wrote: A question: Is it true that the K10D only offers ISO 100-1600? (no over ride to 3200 like the D) Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Shel Belinkoff Sendt: 16. september 2006 07:00 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Cc: Bill Lawlor Emne: Re: K10D power? Bill, My li'l ol' Sony uses LithIon bats, and I've been very happy with them. The camera came with a charger and cord, and I suspect the K10D would have both as well. I can't speak to the charger being able to use current in India - however, a quick email to Pentax should solve that issue. Twice in the past few months I've contacted Pentax on DSLR questions and their response has been both timely and helpful. I assume there are people outside the US who are using the same current that is found in India, so proper charging gear should be simple to find. Also, most well equipped travel shops carry current converters. Pentax claims about 500 shots on the LithIon bat with a % flash use. I suspect you might get as much as double that based on how you shoot and if you don't chimp too much. You will probably use the LCD screen a bit in the beginning, but once you become familiar with the camera, that use should substantially diminish. Shel [Original Message] From: Bill Lawlor I am very interested in buying a K10D asap. I plan to spent the month of January on a personal photo trip to India. I have little experience with high end digital cameras, but thanks to Shel I have enough experience to believe it is time to make the plunge into digital. My quandry is about the power supply for the K10D. I'm unfamiliar with L-ion batteries, chargers etc. What kind of capacity might I expect from a charged battery? I will use RAW files, flash very seldom, if at all. How long would it take to recharge the batteries? Will the charger work on Indian 200-220 50 cycle mains? Is the K10D a camera with wonderful features but tethered to a home/studio environment? What kind of company sells a camera using only L-ion batteies and lists a power cord for, I assume the battery charger, as an optional accessory? Obviously, nobody has actually used the K10D yet, but I'm hoping some members of the list have experience with L-ion powered cameras. I pray the answer is not get a K100D and a case of Lithium AA batteries. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/449 - Release Date: 09/15/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/449 - Release Date: 09/15/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/449 - Release Date: 09/15/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/449 - Release Date: 09/15/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Interesting K100D Ads :-)
Saw this K100D coffee wrapper ads posted by Betsy at dpreview: http://www.pbase.com/betsypdx/image/66871602.jpg Very imaginative and memorable :-) -- --Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.vex.net/~lawrence -- --Tungsten T3 Enhanced DIA KeyboardNokia Ringtone Convertor-- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies
Cotty wrote: On 16/9/06, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed: A 50mm f1.2 D-FA Limited would be a dream lens. Especially if it came out for less money than the Canon 50 f1.2L. You mean the 50mm f/1 ? No, he means the 50mm f/1.2 http://www.dpreview.com/news/0608/06082415canon50f12lens.asp -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Pentax 750Z
On 16/9/06, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed: [excellent precis snipped] I'm sure there are other aspects that I like and don't like, but it's early, last night's beer has worn off, and this morning's coffee hasn't kicked in. Thanks Scott, really appreciate that. Just what I wanted to read. Interesting re hinge. The Canon G2 hinge is pretty good, so I have a benchmark here ;-) I love the retro looks. Looking forward to playing with it, er I mean passing it onto my son. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies
On 16/9/06, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: You mean the 50mm f/1 ? No, he means the 50mm f/1.2 http://www.dpreview.com/news/0608/06082415canon50f12lens.asp D'oh. Yep, forgot that was introduced recently, along with a 70-200/4 IS IIRC. Daaah. 5o mil lenses, waste of bloody time ! (ducking) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
