Re: PAW - "Sunflower"

[John Celio]

> Back to the pretty flower photos.  I might print this one tomorrow.
>
> http://www.bluemoon.net.nz/photo/photodb/view.php?p=568&t=1

That's awesome!  I love macro flower photography (it's practically all I've 
been doing the past 10 months), and that shot really strikes me as something 
I'd be very proud of if I took it.

Great work!

John Celio

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Re: Lens CLA work?

[Paul Stenquist]

Eric was unable to fix the meter in my MX, so he didn't charge me. He  
spent quite a bit of time on it, but no go. He was able to fix my MX  
winder.
Paul
On Oct 4, 2006, at 6:15 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

> Eric was less than satisfactory with a friend's MX and KX - took  
> two trips
> to the shop to get the MX right (don't know what was wrong with it)  
> and
> three trips with the KX, afterwards which still wasn't 100%.   
> Sometimes
> that kind of thing happens, so it should be put in perspective, but  
> I'd be
> remiss if I didn't mention it.
>
> Shel
>
>
>
>> [Original Message]
>> From: Bruce Dayton
>
>> I had a K 200/2.5 CLA'd by Eric Hendrickson:
>> www.pentasx.com
>>
>> I was happy with his work.  You might want to at least check with him
>> about your lens.  You can find quite a few positive comments about  
>> him
>> on the web.
>
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RE: PESO - Another Cormorant

[Tim Øsleby]

They have used my photo without asking permission. 

Are you there Frank? Sue them, sue them big, please. I wonder how many eggs
this will give me.


Tim
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Mark Roberts wrote:
> Ah yes. It's been far too long...
> http://www.robertstech.com/temp/cormorant3.jpg
> :-P
>  

Damn, Tim, you made the big time!

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Re: Pentax DA 12-24/4

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Oct 4, 2006, at 6:56 PM, Adam Maas wrote:

>> Any experience with this lens? A good one?
>> I'm planning to buy the DA* 16-50/2.8 lens for the K10D in due  
>> course.
>> However, I need something wider as well and Pentax doesn't offer a  
>> prime
>> lens that is wider than 16mm except for the 14/2.8 which is too  
>> close to the
>> 16mm to make much sense. Hence, the 12-24/4 might be an option.
>
> Note there's a fair difference in view between 16mm (24mm equivalent)
> and 14mm (21mm equivalent) despite the apparently small difference in
> focal length.

Yes, the differences are (in degrees):

   f  HorVertDiag
  1290.0   67.4   100.5
  1481.2   59.5   91.7
  1673.7   53.1   84.1

I have the DA14/2.8 and I like it a lot. My next shortest lens is the  
FA20-35. The DA12-24/4 is a fine lens too, albeit I think the DA14 is  
a bit sharper and better corrected. 90 degrees across the diagonal  
seems to be a magic number for me too..

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Re: Pentax DA 12-24/4

[Paul Stenquist]

I can't say for sure if the DA 14/2.8 is sharper than the DA 12-24,  
although I expect it would be, at least at f4. However, based on  
images I've seen, I think the DA 12-24 is better corrected. It seems  
to have a bit less barrel distortion. But again, that's based on  
inconclusive evidence. To my knowledge, no one on the list has done  
an actual comparison. That's because none of us can justify owning  
both lenses :-).
Paul
On Oct 4, 2006, at 7:13 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

>
> On Oct 4, 2006, at 6:56 PM, Adam Maas wrote:
>
>>> Any experience with this lens? A good one?
>>> I'm planning to buy the DA* 16-50/2.8 lens for the K10D in due
>>> course.
>>> However, I need something wider as well and Pentax doesn't offer a
>>> prime
>>> lens that is wider than 16mm except for the 14/2.8 which is too
>>> close to the
>>> 16mm to make much sense. Hence, the 12-24/4 might be an option.
>>
>> Note there's a fair difference in view between 16mm (24mm equivalent)
>> and 14mm (21mm equivalent) despite the apparently small difference in
>> focal length.
>
> Yes, the differences are (in degrees):
>
>f  HorVertDiag
>   1290.0   67.4   100.5
>   1481.2   59.5   91.7
>   1673.7   53.1   84.1
>
> I have the DA14/2.8 and I like it a lot. My next shortest lens is the
> FA20-35. The DA12-24/4 is a fine lens too, albeit I think the DA14 is
> a bit sharper and better corrected. 90 degrees across the diagonal
> seems to be a magic number for me too..
>
> Godfrey
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Re: Home recovering from surgery

[Ann Sanfedele]

Mark Roberts wrote:
> 
> OK, I feel a bit of a prat about the subject line, even though I *did*
> have surgery today. It's just that, considering some of the health
> problems experienced by some other PDML'ers, it's quite trivial. I had
> a small (1 cm diameter) cyst removed from my left cheek today. It was
> *much* larger a few weeks ago when the infection was running at full
> force. Anyway, I now have a gruesome-looking inch-long incision in my
> face, sewn up with very tough-looking black sutures! Perhaps I'll post
> a photo later. Or perhaps not. :)
> 

Don't forget a pirate costume

Think of all the stories you can tell about how you got it!

annsan - looking at half full glass

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Re: Flat or punchy

[Tom C]

Some peole have thought a photo of a red door in heavy overcast light was 
too blue.  That was after I warmed it significantly in post processing.

Others have thought that lighting was too flat when that's exactly the way 
the lighting was, and hence the photo was very close to what I saw with my 
eyes.

Without being present to look through the viewfinder, they may be expressing 
their opinion about the image they are looking at, but that has little 
connection to the reality of the original scene.

There's a difference between saying "it looks..." and "it should be...".  
The first is fine.  The second presupposes they know more about the image 
than the photographer that took it.



Tom C.



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>Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 23:55:01 +0100
>
>
>On Oct 4, 2006, at 5:57 PM, Tom C wrote:
>
> > ... However, when a viewer tells me how my image *should* look, I
> > ask myself
> > "How can they possibly know?"   ...
>
>Saying that an image "should" look a particular way is simply a
>clumsy way of saying that in the eyes of a particular viewer the
>photograph looks flat or too contrasty or whatever.
>
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Re: Flat or punchy

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Oct 5, 2006, at 12:23 AM, Tom C wrote:

> ... There's a difference between saying "it looks..." and "it  
> should be...".
> The first is fine.  The second presupposes they know more about the  
> image
> than the photographer that took it.

Exactly.

Sometimes, though, a suggestion that perhaps a photo might be  
rendered with a little more contrast, or a little less, or a slight  
color correction can lead the photographer to a better overall  
photograph. I give up on trying to educate people on how to express  
themselves ... I've seen more poorly phrased suggestions like this  
than is worth worrying about.

Godfrey

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Re: Pentax DA 12-24/4

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

You're quite right in that I haven't seen any direct comparisons on  
the same subject matter between the two lenses. But looking at the  
pictures you've showed and comparing them with my DA14 examples (and  
others), I see less rectilinear distortion in the DA14.

Here's my oft-posted page of DA14 examples:
http://homepage.mac.com/godders/14mm-examples/

The DA14 reaches its peak performance between f/4.5 and f/5.6 in my  
experience, but it's quite good even wide open (as you can see from  
the examples).

I figure that either I become a full time lens tester or I give it up  
and take photographs. ;-) They're both darn fine lenses.

Godfrey


On Oct 5, 2006, at 12:18 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

> I can't say for sure if the DA 14/2.8 is sharper than the DA 12-24,
> although I expect it would be, at least at f4. However, based on
> images I've seen, I think the DA 12-24 is better corrected. It seems
> to have a bit less barrel distortion. But again, that's based on
> inconclusive evidence. To my knowledge, no one on the list has done
> an actual comparison. That's because none of us can justify owning
> both lenses :-).


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Re: Flat or punchy

[Tom C]

>From: Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>On Oct 5, 2006, at 12:23 AM, Tom C wrote:
>
> > ... There's a difference between saying "it looks..." and "it
> > should be...".
> > The first is fine.  The second presupposes they know more about the
> > image
> > than the photographer that took it.
>
>Exactly.
>
>Sometimes, though, a suggestion that perhaps a photo might be
>rendered with a little more contrast, or a little less, or a slight
>color correction can lead the photographer to a better overall
>photograph.

And I'm fine with that. :-)

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Re: D-Xenogon 35

[Digital Image Studio]

On 05/10/06, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Or maybe kit means that not just any idiot can design coatings as good.
> Just because there's some software out there that helps design such
> coatings doesn't mean that it comes with 30+ years of experience with
> coatings, collaboration with other great lens makers, and a "feel" for
> quality optics and coatings.  I'd suggest that if they could, they would.
> Or, maybe they can, but they won't for reasons of cost or time or some such.

Lens coating isn't now the secret it was during WWII, flare is
minimised by good lens coatings but I overall flare resistance is a
function of coatings, optical design and internal barrel AR coatings,
baffling and of course lens shading. Just applying SMC or any other
modern coating system to a lens won't ensure that it doesn't flare.

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Re: Laid Off

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 10/4/2006 9:32:16 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
See you when I get home.

John Celio

This just means that you should look for something better. You are qualified 
for a lot better.

Good luck!, John.

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Re: Pentax medium formats

[Digital Image Studio]

On 05/10/06, Peter Jordan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Personally I find the image quality of 645 slides more than adequate. 6x7
> would be better, but I can carry my 645 camera, a set of 5 lenses (45, 55,
> 75, 150, 200), 2x converter and a 35mm body with zoom comfortably in a
> backpack. If I tried to do that with a 6x7 I'd need the services of a
> chiropractor.

My Mamiya 67 bodies and three lenses are lighter than the equivalent
P645 system, that why I opted out of the P67, I can carry more and
achieve superior image quality to boot.

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RE: Laid Off

[Tim Øsleby]

I'm sorry to hear about this John. 

Somebody advised you to use your network, that's good advice. I know by
experience, network is important in rough times. 

So stay tuned, we are here ;-) 


Tim
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John
Celio
Sent: 4. oktober 2006 18:21
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Laid Off

Hey everyone.  I just got laid off!

*weeps*

I fear for the future of the company I am leaving.  I thought things were 
turning around, but they just laid me off.  Me, the cheapest graphic artist 
in California.  As far as my boss would tell me, the reason he laid me off 
is entirely due to money.

This is the last post I'll be making from this address, as I will no longer 
have access to it after today.

For those of you who ordered your K10Ds through me, I am most sincerely 
sorry for this.  I truly did not expect it.  In the future, you can e-mail 
my former boss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) directly about your orders.  I 
know the one order for the black limited lens is with Pentax right now, so 
we're just waiting for them to ship it to us.  Also, the prices that I was 
able to get for the battery and grip are $64.99 and $169.99, respectively. 
Hopefully this is acceptible.  If not, please e-mail Mike and tell him to 
remove those items from your order.

Again, I'm really sorry for this, and feel like I've betrayed your trust.  I

had no inkling this was going to happen.  I don't think you have any reason 
to worry about your order not being filled, however.

Many thanks to everyone who supported me in my business attempt here.  It 
really meant a lot to me.

See you when I get home.

John Celio

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OT: help again.... re new high speed access etc

[Ann Sanfedele]

What is the safe site for downloading Mozilla Firefox?

I thought I had it in an email but can't find it --

also -
I tried to go to mail2web and long in (on the NEW computer)
no luck.  

I've gotten the internet hookup with earthlink temporarily
and
it will switch to roadrunner on (gasp)Friday, October 13th.  

I'm using internet explorer because that is what is on the
machine now.

sigh

ann


The 90 day trial of P-cillin is on - I don't appear to have
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Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits?

[Christian]

Cotty wrote:
> 
>Oral sex, for example, is often
>described as sodomy (especially in American news reporting).
>
>

I bet that leaves a nasty taste in the mouth.
>>>
>>>Oh come now.
>>>
>>
>>I meant it tongue-in-cheek
> 
> 
> Cunning!
> 
> 
Another pun thread...  I'm gonna gag.


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Re: Laid Off

[John Celio]

Many thanks to everyone who's responded.  It really means a lot to me.


> One angle to consider is that perhaps the company was looking at your
> drumming up business for Pentax as a way to keep you on - if the
> response was good enough, then there might be a place for you.  As it
> stands, that did not seem to happen.

I actually got seven pre-orders for the K10D and various accessories just 
from PDMLers, was expecting a couple more once the camera was in the store, 
and had a couple deposits from walk-in customers too.  The idea to sell 
Pentax stuff here was mine, from when I heard the store was trying to put 
together some sort of deal with Pentax.  Apparently Pentax is doing what 
Olympus did a few years ago, which was to try to work more with specialty 
shops and local camera stores than the big box stores.  The idea is that the 
smaller stores are having a harder time getting Canon and Nikon gear (since 
those companies send most of their stuff to the big box stores for various 
reasons, which I can go into at depth if you like), so the smaller players 
like Olympus and Pentax are trying to move into those vacant spots.  It 
worked very well for us with Olympus, and I was hoping it would work well 
for us with Pentax too.  Sadly, I no longer get to be a part of that.

Getting back to my point, I don't think the Pentax dealings had anything to 
do with being laid off.  Matter of fact, just last week he was putting 
together an "Inside Your Pentax dSLR" class to add to our class roster this 
December, and he was going to have me be one of the teachers for it.  I'm 
sure the class will still happen, if any NorCal PDMLers are interested, but 
I don't think I'll be a part of it now.

Anyway.  Right now I'm working on getting my Mustang sold this week and 
calling up people I know who may be hiring or know people who are hiring.  I 
don't want to be jobless too long, or I'll get lazy.

Thanks again, everyone.

John Celio

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Re: OT: help again.... re new high speed access etc

[Peter McIntosh]

On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 09:32:42 +1000, Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> What is the safe site for downloading Mozilla Firefox?
>
> I thought I had it in an email but can't find it --
>
> also -
> I tried to go to mail2web and long in (on the NEW computer)
> no luck.
>


Hi Ann,

Try http://www.mozilla.org/firefox.  You can download Firefox 1.5 from  
there. I've used this myself with no issues.


Ciao,

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Re: Laid Off

[John Celio]

> When you get another mail base, drop a line again, and let us know how to
> reach you.

Oh, I only unsubbed from my work address.  I'm not going anywhere, as far as 
my normal email is concerned.  Far too many crazy Pentax people here to miss 
out on.  ;)

Thanks for your concern!

John Celio

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Re: Home recovering from surgery

[J and K Messervy]

Doesn't sound like much fun.

I'm in a similar position.  I had periodontal surgery yesterday.  I had two 
fractured teeth removed, two titanium implants screwed into the jaw, a slice 
of tissue grafted from the roof of my mouth and I have an enormous amount of 
stitches in the  gum and roof of my mouth.  In the scheme of things, it's 
nothing, but damn it hurts.

James
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From: "Mark Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 6:52 AM
Subject: Home recovering from surgery


> OK, I feel a bit of a prat about the subject line, even though I *did*
> have surgery today. It's just that, considering some of the health
> problems experienced by some other PDML'ers, it's quite trivial. I had
> a small (1 cm diameter) cyst removed from my left cheek today. It was
> *much* larger a few weeks ago when the infection was running at full
> force. Anyway, I now have a gruesome-looking inch-long incision in my
> face, sewn up with very tough-looking black sutures! Perhaps I'll post
> a photo later. Or perhaps not. :)
>
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Re: help again.... re new high speed access etc

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Ann Sanfedele" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 5:32 PM
Subject: OT: help again re new high speed access etc 


> 
> What is the safe site for downloading Mozilla Firefox?

http://www.firefox2006.com/

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Re: Pentax DA 12-24/4

[Paul Stenquist]

Nice pics, but hard to compare distortion based on these and my pics.  
Perhaps I'll make it out there some day, and we can get together and  
shoot a brick wall:-)
Paul
On Oct 4, 2006, at 7:30 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

> You're quite right in that I haven't seen any direct comparisons on
> the same subject matter between the two lenses. But looking at the
> pictures you've showed and comparing them with my DA14 examples (and
> others), I see less rectilinear distortion in the DA14.
>
> Here's my oft-posted page of DA14 examples:
> http://homepage.mac.com/godders/14mm-examples/
>
> The DA14 reaches its peak performance between f/4.5 and f/5.6 in my
> experience, but it's quite good even wide open (as you can see from
> the examples).
>
> I figure that either I become a full time lens tester or I give it up
> and take photographs. ;-) They're both darn fine lenses.
>
> Godfrey
>
>
> On Oct 5, 2006, at 12:18 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>
>> I can't say for sure if the DA 14/2.8 is sharper than the DA 12-24,
>> although I expect it would be, at least at f4. However, based on
>> images I've seen, I think the DA 12-24 is better corrected. It seems
>> to have a bit less barrel distortion. But again, that's based on
>> inconclusive evidence. To my knowledge, no one on the list has done
>> an actual comparison. That's because none of us can justify owning
>> both lenses :-).
>
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Re: Loose lens mount on used SMC Pentax-A Zoom...

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Matt Kelch"
Subject: Re: Loose lens mount on used SMC Pentax-A Zoom...



>>> how
>>> to go about fixing it if it can be fixed.  Anyone have experience 
>>> with
>>> this?
>>>
>>
>> There are 5 or so screws attaching the mount to the lens.
>> Use a small phillips screwdriver (jewelers screwdriver), try to 
>> tighten
>> them. If that doesn't fix it, it probably needs more help than the
>> average person can give it.

> I was thinking those were it, but I was unable to tighten or loosen 
> any
> of them.  I need to get a screw driver that fits better I guess.  In 
> any
> case, I don't think its a big problem at this point and for 40.00 I
> can't complain.

Adam gave a pointer about this problem. Make sure you try his cure as 
well.

William Robb 



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Re: Pentax DA 12-24/4

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

I agree. Come on out when next I hang a show and we'll spend quality  
time with a brick wall...

;-)

Godfrey

On Oct 5, 2006, at 1:09 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

> Nice pics, but hard to compare distortion based on these and my pics.
> Perhaps I'll make it out there some day, and we can get together and
> shoot a brick wall:-)
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Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits?

[Digital Image Studio]

On 05/10/06, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> >> >> Note, too, the difference in meaning of "sodomize".  In British
> >> >> English sodomy is pretty much synonomous with buggery; in
> >American
> >> >> usage it means just about any variation on sexual activity apart
> >> >> from the most rudimentary forms.  Oral sex, for example, is often
> >> >> described as sodomy (especially in American news reporting).
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >I bet that leaves a nasty taste in the mouth.
> >>
> >> Oh come now.
> >>
> >
> >I meant it tongue-in-cheek
>
> Cunning!

Linguistics!

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Re: Captured Moments from the Streets of New York

[Stan Halpin]

I will be in D.C. area most of the time (except for the occasional trip 
home on weekends) through the end of the year. My wife is coming in for 
one five-day "weekend" (9-14 November) and this exhibit is on our list 
of things we will do.

Stan


On Oct 4, 2006, at 9:11 AM, frank theriault wrote:

> On 10/4/06, Paul Sorenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> NPR piece on an exhibit at the National Gallery of Art w/photos by
>> Walker Evans, Robert Frank, Helen Levitt and others, taken from 1938
>> through 1958.  Includes a slide show sampler for another glimpse at
>> history.  Would be a good outing for anyone traveling to DC.
>>
>> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6169849&sc=emaf
>>
>
> Amazing stuff.  I'd love to get down to Washington to see it.  It'd be
> nice if it "goes on the road" when done there, although I doubt it
> would come to Toronto.  Buffalo, maybe?
>
> cheers,
> frank
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Re: RAW (DNG) and white balance question

[Gonz]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Oct 4, 2006, at 4:56 PM, Gonz wrote:
> 
> 
>>>Why not just adjust the white balance until it is correct and never
>>>mind what color temperature the RAW converter wants to report?
>>
>>Because its nice to start with a reference you know and adjust from
>>there, instead of blindly moving the white balance around until you  
>>like it.
> 
> 
> In Camera Raw, use the grayscale eyedropper on a segment of the photo  
> that you feel represents a medium-light gray tone. ACR will set the  
> color temperature and tint to match that to a reference value for a  
> medium-light gray, which should make whites look white and that spot  
> look gray if your monitor is properly calibrated and you've set up  
> your color preferences correctly. Make fine tuning adjustments from  
> there.
> 
Of course, the eyedropper can be handy, I use it alot.  But not every 
pic is going to have something with grey (equal RGB values).  In the 
pictures I was working on , this was the situation.  Its a pain to have 
to hunt around the white balance space to get what you want when you 
know what the kelvin temp is roughly.

> If you haven't got a calibrated monitor setup and/or haven't set up  
> your color preference, anything you see on screen is likely to be off  
> any expected color temperature/color cast setting...
> 
Thats not the situation in this case.  The monitor was calibrated not 
long ago, and everything else works fine, including old PEF files from 
my *istD.  These colors (with the Pentax converted DNG) are very off.

> Godfrey
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Re: 10mp DSLR enlargements

[Shel Belinkoff]

Thanks.  I thought it was something more complicated than that.  I've done
this a few time - just called it resizing.

Shel



> [Original Message]
> From: Godfrey DiGiorgi

> Upsampling == upsizing ... Interpolating an X by Y image raster to a  
> larger X' by Y' image raster.
>
> - In Camera Raw, you can upsample or downsample by using the  
> workspace settings menu for Size.
>
> - In Photoshop, you upsample by using "Image->Image Size..." and  
> setting the image to any pixel dimensions larger than the native  
> original size with the "Resample Image" box checked.



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Re: PESO - Famous Foto: 1972

[Stan Halpin]

Proof of the ancient adage:
People who drive 4-wheel-drive vehicles can get further into the woods 
before they get stuck.

Stan
"There are 10 kinds of people in the world - those who understand 
binary and those who don't."


On Oct 4, 2006, at 12:35 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

> Hi!
>
>> In the early spring of 1972 I bought my first 4x4, a Dodge Rancharger.
>> Within a few days, and with a couple of friends, I headed for the 
>> woods.  I
>> was brash and foolish, and this was the result.
>>
>> But, to compound the situation, the "friends" who took the pic made 
>> some
>> posters of it, and sent them to a number of businesses along the 
>> California
>> coast where I had some professional relationships.  About a month 
>> after
>> this pic was taken, I made a trip up the coast, stopping in Mendocino,
>> Willets, Legget, Fort Bragg, Garberville, and Ferndale, and maybe one 
>> or
>> two other small towns.  Most of the offices I visited had the poster 
>> up,
>> prominently displayed, causing me great embarrassment.
>>
>> Everyone had a good laugh at my expense, even me, but I was really 
>> pissed
>> off at my friends as well
>>
>> Yesterday they sent me the pic by email and it seemed like it might 
>> be fun
>> to post it here.
>>
>> http://home.earthlink.net/~ebay-pics/famousfoto.html
>
> Well, it made Julia chuckle... I just looked at it... I guess I would 
> be
> easier for me to realize how much you were frustrated.
>
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Re: Laid Off

[Paul Stenquist]

> John Celio wrote:
>
>> Hey everyone.  I just got laid off!
>
Sorry to hear that, John. I've been through that myself. I've learned  
that it makes one more determined and frequently leads to something  
better. Best of luck.
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Re: Laid Off

[Mark Roberts]

John Celio wrote:

>Hey everyone.  I just got laid off!

Very sad to hear that John. I just ended a long stretch of
unemployment myself, though much of it was caused/exacerbated by grad
school it still sucks.

You need to move up from being the cheapest graphic artist in
California! Do you have a web site or other way to show off examples
of your work? 
 
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Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits?

[David Savage]

At 02:06 AM 5/10/2006, John Francis wrote:
>On Wed, Oct 04, 2006 at 11:52:20AM +0100, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> > I don't know what the issue is other than prudishness.
> >
> > To bugger someone means to have anal intercourse with them. Seems to
> > be this parlance that is more British English than American English,
>
>Quite.  I'm often amused when a TV character with a British accent
>(such as Spike, in "Buffy the Vampire Slayer") says "Bugger off",
>or the like - it appears to be a loophole in the great American
>puritanical broadcast TV vocabulary rules.
>
>. . .
>
> > I was curious so I looked up the word in the OED:
> > 
> > bugger
>   . . .
> > penetrate the anus of (someone) during sexual intercourse; sodomize.
>
>Note, too, the difference in meaning of "sodomize".  In British
>English sodomy is pretty much synonomous with buggery; in American
>usage it means just about any variation on sexual activity apart
>from the most rudimentary forms.  Oral sex, for example, is often
>described as sodomy (especially in American news reporting).


So calling someone a "miserable sod", for example, is the same as calling 
them a "miserable bugger".

I hadn't given the word "sod" much thought until now.

Dave 


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Re: Flat or punchy

[Digital Image Studio]

On 05/10/06, Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Seems like a subject worth discussing a bit.  I can say, for myself, I
> am using a calibrated Fujitsu CrystalView screen on my laptop - it is
> considered a very high contrast, high quality screen.  It does make my
> other screens (two CRT's and 1 laptop) look a bit drab.  I'm sure that
> the screens we look at affect our feelings about a given image, along
> with our own personal feelings concerning contrast and detail.

If your screen is properly calibrated the ICM should pass on the
screen cal details to your edit/viewing program so you really don't
have to guess how lower gamut renderings will appear. IOW my screen
(probably like yours) has a wider colour gamut and greater contrast
than the sRGB colour space but since my screen is calibrated I can see
how an sRGB rendering will appear in PS if I use proof view.

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Re: OT: help again.... re new high speed access etc

[Ann Sanfedele]

YAYAYAY! I"m in :)
and I got to Mail2web
phew

thanks , Pete



Peter McIntosh wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 09:32:42 +1000, Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >
> > What is the safe site for downloading Mozilla Firefox?
> >
> > I thought I had it in an email but can't find it --
> >
> > also -
> > I tried to go to mail2web and long in (on the NEW computer)
> > no luck.
> >
> 
> Hi Ann,
> 
> Try http://www.mozilla.org/firefox.  You can download Firefox 1.5 from
> there. I've used this myself with no issues.
> 
> Ciao,
> 
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Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits?

[keith_w]

David Savage wrote:
> At 02:06 AM 5/10/2006, John Francis wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 04, 2006 at 11:52:20AM +0100, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>>> I don't know what the issue is other than prudishness.
>>>
>>> To bugger someone means to have anal intercourse with them. Seems to
>>> be this parlance that is more British English than American English,
>> Quite.  I'm often amused when a TV character with a British accent
>> (such as Spike, in "Buffy the Vampire Slayer") says "Bugger off",
>> or the like - it appears to be a loophole in the great American
>> puritanical broadcast TV vocabulary rules.
>>
>> . . .
>>
>>> I was curious so I looked up the word in the OED:
>>> 
>>> bugger
>>   . . .
>>> penetrate the anus of (someone) during sexual intercourse; sodomize.
>> Note, too, the difference in meaning of "sodomize".  In British
>> English sodomy is pretty much synonomous with buggery; in American
>> usage it means just about any variation on sexual activity apart
>>from the most rudimentary forms.  Oral sex, for example, is often
>> described as sodomy (especially in American news reporting).

> So calling someone a "miserable sod", for example, is the same as calling 
> them a "miserable bugger".

I don't think so.
Not in the U.S. anyhow.

keith whaley

> I hadn't given the word "sod" much thought until now.
> 
> Dave 

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Re: Home recovering from surgery

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 10/4/2006 1:52:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
OK, I feel a bit of a prat about the subject line, even though I *did*
have surgery today. It's just that, considering some of the health
problems experienced by some other PDML'ers, it's quite trivial. I had
a small (1 cm diameter) cyst removed from my left cheek today. It was
*much* larger a few weeks ago when the infection was running at full
force. Anyway, I now have a gruesome-looking inch-long incision in my
face, sewn up with very tough-looking black sutures! Perhaps I'll post
a photo later. Or perhaps not. :)

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Drat, you missed pirate day. :-) Agh!

Good luck with that.

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Re: Laid Off

[Digital Image Studio]

On 05/10/06, John Celio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Getting back to my point, I don't think the Pentax dealings had anything to
> do with being laid off.  Matter of fact, just last week he was putting
> together an "Inside Your Pentax dSLR" class to add to our class roster this
> December, and he was going to have me be one of the teachers for it.  I'm
> sure the class will still happen, if any NorCal PDMLers are interested, but
> I don't think I'll be a part of it now.

Sorry to hear of your plight John, it sounds like you were a valuable
employee, was it a seniority issue that made you the selected
sacrifice?

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Re: Home recovering from surgery

[P. J. Alling]

Cotty wrote:

>On 4/10/06, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>  
>
>>Is there gonna be a cool scar?  Will you look just like a pirate?  Or
>>a gangster?
>>
>>
>
>But Mark already looks like a pirate or a gangster...
>
>  
>
Mark!

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RE: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits?

[David Savage]

At 06:22 AM 5/10/2006, you wrote:
> >
> >
> > >> Note, too, the difference in meaning of "sodomize".  In British
> > >> English sodomy is pretty much synonomous with buggery; in
>American
> > >> usage it means just about any variation on sexual activity apart
> > >> from the most rudimentary forms.  Oral sex, for example, is often
> > >> described as sodomy (especially in American news reporting).
> > >
> > >I bet that leaves a nasty taste in the mouth.
> >
> > Oh come now.
>
>I meant it tongue-in-cheek

Are you sure it was a tongue?

Dave ;-)



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Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits?

[Paul Stenquist]

While "sodomize" has retained much of its original meaning, "sod" has  
been watered down over time. It originally meant a sodomizer and was  
also used as a derogatory term for homosexual. In modern parlance, it  
has come to mean chap or guy in some contexts and kid or brat in others.
Paul
On Oct 4, 2006, at 9:11 PM, David Savage wrote:

> At 02:06 AM 5/10/2006, John Francis wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 04, 2006 at 11:52:20AM +0100, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>>> I don't know what the issue is other than prudishness.
>>>
>>> To bugger someone means to have anal intercourse with them. Seems to
>>> be this parlance that is more British English than American English,
>>
>> Quite.  I'm often amused when a TV character with a British accent
>> (such as Spike, in "Buffy the Vampire Slayer") says "Bugger off",
>> or the like - it appears to be a loophole in the great American
>> puritanical broadcast TV vocabulary rules.
>>
>> . . .
>>
>>> I was curious so I looked up the word in the OED:
>>> 
>>> bugger
>>   . . .
>>> penetrate the anus of (someone) during sexual intercourse; sodomize.
>>
>> Note, too, the difference in meaning of "sodomize".  In British
>> English sodomy is pretty much synonomous with buggery; in American
>> usage it means just about any variation on sexual activity apart
>> from the most rudimentary forms.  Oral sex, for example, is often
>> described as sodomy (especially in American news reporting).
>
>
> So calling someone a "miserable sod", for example, is the same as  
> calling
> them a "miserable bugger".
>
> I hadn't given the word "sod" much thought until now.
>
> Dave
>
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Re: Home recovering from surgery

[John Celio]

> I particularly like your pirate suggestion (which I hadn't thought of)
> because of the connection to the Church of the Flying Spaghetti
> Monster (http://www.venganza.org).

rAmen to that!

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Re: help again.... re new high speed access etc

[Ann Sanfedele]

William Robb wrote:
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ann Sanfedele" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 5:32 PM
> Subject: OT: help again re new high speed access etc
> 
> >
> > What is the safe site for downloading Mozilla Firefox?
> 
> http://www.firefox2006.com/
> 
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thanks, Bill

that guy from OZ beat ya to it :)

Now I can check out your vacation shots

new problem

I can't find where to calibrate the monitor
I was there, and I got lost again -
typing what I think are sensible buzz words in "FIND" dont
get me there - ugh

but I am not gettin gthere FAST! :)

ann

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Re: Laid Off

[John Coyle]

Very sorry to hear that John, and hope you find something to your taste 
soon.
Sometimes it can work out very well - I think a number of us here have had 
the same experience, and gone on to work for ourselves, which can be 
terrific.

Regards

John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia
> John Celio wrote:
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> Hey everyone.  I just got laid off!
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Re: help again.... re new high speed access etc

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 10/4/2006 6:26:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] 
writes:
but I am not gettin gthere FAST! :)

ann
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Hell, ann, I don't have high speed -- I am still on dial-up.

You're cooking, kid! 

Marnie aka Doe ;-) 

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Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell

[P. J. Alling]

The OEM agreement with Microsoft probably prohibits their removing 
anything that comes with a standard windows installation.

Shel Belinkoff wrote:

>That's really odd - and annoying.  I've seen a couple-three Dell
>commercials on TV and the ad makes a point of saying that you can have it
>"your way."  Well, the crap can be removed if you so desire.
>
>Shel
>
>
>
>  
>
>>[Original Message]
>>From: Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>>Date: 10/4/2006 2:42:38 PM
>>Subject: Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell
>>
>>Shel Belinkoff wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Why wouldn't they?
>>>
>>>Shel
>>>
>>>  
>>>
[Original Message]
From: Ann Sanfedele


Actually...
I asked that NO games be installed on my
computer but they wouldn't honor that


>>Who the F knows?  
>>
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What's an LX worth?

[J and K Messervy]

If I go ahead and purchase a medium format, I'll probably sell the LX and a 
couple of nice old Pentax lenses with it to help fund it.  I'm not putting 
this up for sale yet, but was wondering if those in the know could give me 
an estimate of the kind of price I should realistically aim for with the LX. 
It's in great condition and I'll be selling it with a SMC 35mm f3.5 manual 
focus and a Asashi Takumar 135mm f2.5 manual focus.  Both lenses perfect.  I 
was thinking something in the region of $400 AUD (approx $300 USD).  Any 
suggestions as to price?

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Re: OT: help again.... re new high speed access etc

[P. J. Alling]

That is the official web site.  I was going to send it again but I see 
that I've been beaten to the punch.

Peter McIntosh wrote:

>On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 09:32:42 +1000, Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  
>
>>What is the safe site for downloading Mozilla Firefox?
>>
>>I thought I had it in an email but can't find it --
>>
>>also -
>>I tried to go to mail2web and long in (on the NEW computer)
>>no luck.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>Hi Ann,
>
>Try http://www.mozilla.org/firefox.  You can download Firefox 1.5 from  
>there. I've used this myself with no issues.
>
>
>Ciao,
>
>Peter in Sydney
>
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>


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Re: What's an LX worth?

[Paul Stenquist]

Sell the camera and lenses individually: three auctions. Start the 
camera with a first bid of $300 and no reserve. Based on your 
description, I'm not sure what lenses you're talking about. If your 35 
is the SMC Pentax bayonet mount, I'd start it at $60, if it's the 
screwmount, $40. If your 135/2.5 is the SmC Takumar screwmount (either 
of the two varieties available), I'd start it at $125. If it's an 
earlier screwmount, I'd start it at $60. The camera might bring $400 if 
you're lucky.
Paul
On Oct 4, 2006, at 9:54 PM, J and K Messervy wrote:

> If I go ahead and purchase a medium format, I'll probably sell the LX 
> and a
> couple of nice old Pentax lenses with it to help fund it.  I'm not 
> putting
> this up for sale yet, but was wondering if those in the know could 
> give me
> an estimate of the kind of price I should realistically aim for with 
> the LX.
> It's in great condition and I'll be selling it with a SMC 35mm f3.5 
> manual
> focus and a Asashi Takumar 135mm f2.5 manual focus.  Both lenses 
> perfect.  I
> was thinking something in the region of $400 AUD (approx $300 USD).  
> Any
> suggestions as to price?
>
> Cheers
> James M
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Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits?

[P. J. Alling]

Same thing is true of Punk.

Paul Stenquist wrote:

>While "sodomize" has retained much of its original meaning, "sod" has  
>been watered down over time. It originally meant a sodomizer and was  
>also used as a derogatory term for homosexual. In modern parlance, it  
>has come to mean chap or guy in some contexts and kid or brat in others.
>Paul
>On Oct 4, 2006, at 9:11 PM, David Savage wrote:
>
>  
>
>>At 02:06 AM 5/10/2006, John Francis wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Wed, Oct 04, 2006 at 11:52:20AM +0100, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>>>  
>>>
I don't know what the issue is other than prudishness.

To bugger someone means to have anal intercourse with them. Seems to
be this parlance that is more British English than American English,


>>>Quite.  I'm often amused when a TV character with a British accent
>>>(such as Spike, in "Buffy the Vampire Slayer") says "Bugger off",
>>>or the like - it appears to be a loophole in the great American
>>>puritanical broadcast TV vocabulary rules.
>>>
>>>. . .
>>>
>>>  
>>>
I was curious so I looked up the word in the OED:

bugger


>>>  . . .
>>>  
>>>
penetrate the anus of (someone) during sexual intercourse; sodomize.


>>>Note, too, the difference in meaning of "sodomize".  In British
>>>English sodomy is pretty much synonomous with buggery; in American
>>>usage it means just about any variation on sexual activity apart
>>>from the most rudimentary forms.  Oral sex, for example, is often
>>>described as sodomy (especially in American news reporting).
>>>  
>>>
>>So calling someone a "miserable sod", for example, is the same as  
>>calling
>>them a "miserable bugger".
>>
>>I hadn't given the word "sod" much thought until now.
>>
>>Dave
>>
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Re: Home recovering from surgery

[Mat Maessen]

On 10/4/06, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >But Mark already looks like a pirate or a gangster...
> Arr!

Mark's just doing his part to fight global warming.
RAmen!

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Re: OT: help again.... re new high speed access etc

[Ann Sanfedele]

I got it - I'm all set --
EXCEPT -
my monitor is too damn bright

I know I started fiddling with some calibration stuff and I
can't find where it is now
That I would REALLY like help with my eyes are a mess

Ann



"P. J. Alling" wrote:
> 
> That is the official web site.  I was going to send it again but I see
> that I've been beaten to the punch.
> 
> Peter McIntosh wrote:
> 
> >On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 09:32:42 +1000, Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>What is the safe site for downloading Mozilla Firefox?
> >>
> >>I thought I had it in an email but can't find it --
> >>
> >>also -
> >>I tried to go to mail2web and long in (on the NEW computer)
> >>no luck.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >Hi Ann,
> >
> >Try http://www.mozilla.org/firefox.  You can download Firefox 1.5 from
> >there. I've used this myself with no issues.
> >
> >
> >Ciao,
> >
> >Peter in Sydney
> >
> >
> >
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Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell

[Ann Sanfedele]

Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> 
> That's really odd - and annoying.  I've seen a couple-three Dell
> commercials on TV and the ad makes a point of saying that you can have it
> "your way."  Well, the crap can be removed if you so desire.
> 
> Shel
> 
Yup -
I'm slowly separating the wheat from the chaffee - 
and quickly took the explorer icon off my desktop
and am using firefox for the web.

When I got the PEntium III 6 years ago - they DID do it my
way.

ann



> > [Original Message]
> > From: Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> > Date: 10/4/2006 2:42:38 PM
> > Subject: Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell
> >
> > Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> > >
> > > Why wouldn't they?
> > >
> > > Shel
> > >
> > > > [Original Message]
> > > > From: Ann Sanfedele
> > >
> > > > Actually...
> > > > I asked that NO games be installed on my
> > > > computer but they wouldn't honor that
> > >
> >
> > Who the F knows?
> >
> > ann
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Re: help again.... re new high speed access etc

[graywolf]

Hey, maybe if I was not paying for highspeed cable I could afford a 
faster computer...

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In a message dated 10/4/2006 6:26:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL 
> PROTECTED] 
> writes:
> but I am not gettin gthere FAST! :)
> 
> ann
> ===
> Hell, ann, I don't have high speed -- I am still on dial-up.
> 
> You're cooking, kid! 
> 
> Marnie aka Doe ;-) 
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Re: Home recovering from surgery

[graywolf]

No, no, Mark looks like a pirate AND a gangster .

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Cotty wrote:
> On 4/10/06, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
>> Is there gonna be a cool scar?  Will you look just like a pirate?  Or
>> a gangster?
> 
> But Mark already looks like a pirate or a gangster...
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Re: help again.... re new high speed access etc

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Ann Sanfedele"
Subject: Re: help again re new high speed access etc



>
> that guy from OZ beat ya to it :)

Good thing, the page I sent you to seems to be free of links of any 
sort.

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Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits?

[Kenneth Waller]

Monica, where are you when we need you ?

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - 
From: "Bob W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits?


>> 
>> 
>> >> Note, too, the difference in meaning of "sodomize".  In British
>> >> English sodomy is pretty much synonomous with buggery; in
> American
>> >> usage it means just about any variation on sexual activity apart
>> >> from the most rudimentary forms.  Oral sex, for example, is often
>> >> described as sodomy (especially in American news reporting).
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >
>> >I bet that leaves a nasty taste in the mouth.
>> 
>> Oh come now.
>> 
> 
> I meant it tongue-in-cheek
> 
> Bob
> 
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Re: What's an LX worth?

[J and K Messervy]

Thanks for that mate.  Both lenses are k mount.  I assume you're talking US 
dollars?

Cheers
James
- Original Message - 
From: "Paul Stenquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: What's an LX worth?


> Sell the camera and lenses individually: three auctions. Start the
> camera with a first bid of $300 and no reserve. Based on your
> description, I'm not sure what lenses you're talking about. If your 35
> is the SMC Pentax bayonet mount, I'd start it at $60, if it's the
> screwmount, $40. If your 135/2.5 is the SmC Takumar screwmount (either
> of the two varieties available), I'd start it at $125. If it's an
> earlier screwmount, I'd start it at $60. The camera might bring $400 if
> you're lucky.
> Paul
> On Oct 4, 2006, at 9:54 PM, J and K Messervy wrote:
>
>> If I go ahead and purchase a medium format, I'll probably sell the LX
>> and a
>> couple of nice old Pentax lenses with it to help fund it.  I'm not
>> putting
>> this up for sale yet, but was wondering if those in the know could
>> give me
>> an estimate of the kind of price I should realistically aim for with
>> the LX.
>> It's in great condition and I'll be selling it with a SMC 35mm f3.5
>> manual
>> focus and a Asashi Takumar 135mm f2.5 manual focus.  Both lenses
>> perfect.  I
>> was thinking something in the region of $400 AUD (approx $300 USD).
>> Any
>> suggestions as to price?
>>
>> Cheers
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Re: 10mp DSLR enlargements

[Kenneth Waller]

> - In Photoshop, you upsample by using "Image->Image Size..." and
> setting the image to any pixel dimensions larger than the native
> original size with the "Resample Image" box checked.

I've read several places that when increasing file size in CS2 you should 
use "Bicubic smoother" in the pull down menu under image size.

Kenneth Waller

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From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Subject: Re: 10mp DSLR enlargements


> Upsampling == upsizing ... Interpolating an X by Y image raster to a
> larger X' by Y' image raster.
>
> - In Camera Raw, you can upsample or downsample by using the
> workspace settings menu for Size.
>
> - In Photoshop, you upsample by using "Image->Image Size..." and
> setting the image to any pixel dimensions larger than the native
> original size with the "Resample Image" box checked.
>
> Godfrey
>
>
> On Oct 4, 2006, at 5:24 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
>
>> What is upsampling and how is it done?
>>
>>> If more print output density or a larger print is desirable, you
>>> upsample either in the RAW conversion processing or in post
>>> processing. You get no more detail but the rendering is usually
>>> smoother.
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Re: Laid Off

[John Celio]

> You need to move up from being the cheapest graphic artist in
> California! Do you have a web site or other way to show off examples
> of your work?

I do have my regular photography site (address is below), but nothing for 
the kind of stuff I did at work.  The problem is, the only stuff I have all 
belongs to my former customers, so I can't put it on the web without their 
permission.  It's quite a connundrum.  I'll definitely use the stuff I have 
for a printed portfolio, however, which I'm working on that right now.

And, I called myself the cheapest graphic artist in California because I was 
making about half what my contemporaries typically make.  I've deserved a 
major raise for a long time, but the store was never in a position to pay me 
more.  However, working at a camera shop has more than monetary benefits, so 
I felt it was worth the trade-off.

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Re: OT: help again.... re new high speed access etc

[P. J. Alling]

If you've installed Adobe Photoshop, (not elements), Adobe gamma is in 
windows control panel.  Later versions of Elements may have it but 
earlier versions do not.

Ann Sanfedele wrote:

>I got it - I'm all set --
>EXCEPT -
>my monitor is too damn bright
>
>I know I started fiddling with some calibration stuff and I
>can't find where it is now
>That I would REALLY like help with my eyes are a mess
>
>Ann
>
>
>
>"P. J. Alling" wrote:
>  
>
>>That is the official web site.  I was going to send it again but I see
>>that I've been beaten to the punch.
>>
>>Peter McIntosh wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 09:32:42 +1000, Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>>
What is the safe site for downloading Mozilla Firefox?

I thought I had it in an email but can't find it --

also -
I tried to go to mail2web and long in (on the NEW computer)
no luck.





>>>Hi Ann,
>>>
>>>Try http://www.mozilla.org/firefox.  You can download Firefox 1.5 from
>>>there. I've used this myself with no issues.
>>>
>>>
>>>Ciao,
>>>
>>>Peter in Sydney
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>>
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Shot my first roll of film in ages.

[P. J. Alling]

About a year ago I enabled myself with a Kodak Medalist II and bought 
some re-spooled 120 film to test it with.  After hearing so much talk 
lately about medium format shooting I finally got around to running a 
roll of TMAX 100 in the Medalist, the negatives, at least the ones that 
I managed to expose properly, look gorgeous.  There are a few quirks to 
this camera I'll have to get used to.  Now I have to figure out how I'm 
going to print them since I no longer have a darkroom and there's no way 
these will fit in my 35mm film scanner.  By the way, does this make me 
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Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell

[Kenneth Waller]

> The OEM agreement with Microsoft probably prohibits their removing
> anything that comes with a standard windows installation.

I doubt it as a lot of the stuff included in not Microsoft stuff.

My guess is that they include the other stuff for the same reason you get 
advertising with your newspaper.

Kenneth Waller

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From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Subject: Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell


> The OEM agreement with Microsoft probably prohibits their removing
> anything that comes with a standard windows installation.
>
> Shel Belinkoff wrote:
>
>>That's really odd - and annoying.  I've seen a couple-three Dell
>>commercials on TV and the ad makes a point of saying that you can have it
>>"your way."  Well, the crap can be removed if you so desire.
>>
>>Shel
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>[Original Message]
>>>From: Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>>>Date: 10/4/2006 2:42:38 PM
>>>Subject: Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell
>>>
>>>Shel Belinkoff wrote:
>>>
>>>
Why wouldn't they?

Shel



>[Original Message]
>From: Ann Sanfedele
>
>
>Actually...
>I asked that NO games be installed on my
>computer but they wouldn't honor that
>
>
>>>Who the F knows?
>>>
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Re: OT: help again.... re new high speed access etc

[Ann Sanfedele]

"P. J. Alling" wrote:
> 
> If you've installed Adobe Photoshop, (not elements), Adobe gamma is in
> windows control panel.  Later versions of Elements may have it but
> earlier versions do not.
> 
Actually, the machine came with Adobe gamma... dk why.

But my fiddling with it, I think, messed things up - 

I set it on adobe 1998 rgb 

the problem was the white screen when I'm on line...

hehe - now i see the problem is that in the version of
Mozilla I
have on the old puter has a line that you click to override
the colors
on other pages

in the NEW version, it is the opposite! I checked the wrong
thing as a result

Now I have a nice neutral non-white screen no matter where i
go on the web -phew!

ann




> Ann Sanfedele wrote:
> 
> >I got it - I'm all set --
> >EXCEPT -
> >my monitor is too damn bright
> >
> >I know I started fiddling with some calibration stuff and I
> >can't find where it is now
> >That I would REALLY like help with my eyes are a mess
> >
> >Ann
> >
> >
> >
> >"P. J. Alling" wrote:
> >
> >
> >>That is the official web site.  I was going to send it again but I see
> >>that I've been beaten to the punch.
> >>
> >>Peter McIntosh wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 09:32:42 +1000, Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> >>>wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> What is the safe site for downloading Mozilla Firefox?
> 
> I thought I had it in an email but can't find it --
> 
> also -
> I tried to go to mail2web and long in (on the NEW computer)
> no luck.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >>>Hi Ann,
> >>>
> >>>Try http://www.mozilla.org/firefox.  You can download Firefox 1.5 from
> >>>there. I've used this myself with no issues.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Ciao,
> >>>
> >>>Peter in Sydney
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>
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Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell

[P. J. Alling]

Actually I believe that they are allowed to add their own, and other 
software by agreement, (under penalty of Anti Trust action), but 
removing something that Microsoft includes is a different matter, 
especially since installation CD/DVDs are no longer included, and most 
people don't know how to re-install, and will probably never re-install 
the OS, barring a complete melt down.

Kenneth Waller wrote:

>>The OEM agreement with Microsoft probably prohibits their removing
>>anything that comes with a standard windows installation.
>>
>>
>
>I doubt it as a lot of the stuff included in not Microsoft stuff.
>
>My guess is that they include the other stuff for the same reason you get 
>advertising with your newspaper.
>
>Kenneth Waller
>
>- Original Message - 
>From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>Subject: Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell
>
>
>  
>
>>The OEM agreement with Microsoft probably prohibits their removing
>>anything that comes with a standard windows installation.
>>
>>Shel Belinkoff wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>That's really odd - and annoying.  I've seen a couple-three Dell
>>>commercials on TV and the ad makes a point of saying that you can have it
>>>"your way."  Well, the crap can be removed if you so desire.
>>>
>>>Shel
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>>
[Original Message]
From: Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
Date: 10/4/2006 2:42:38 PM
Subject: Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell

Shel Belinkoff wrote:




>Why wouldn't they?
>
>Shel
>
>
>
>  
>
>>[Original Message]
>>From: Ann Sanfedele
>>
>>
>>Actually...
>>I asked that NO games be installed on my
>>computer but they wouldn't honor that
>>
>>
>>
>>
Who the F knows?

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Re: Home recovering from surgery

[Boris Liberman]

Hi!

> OK, I feel a bit of a prat about the subject line, even though I *did*
> have surgery today. It's just that, considering some of the health
> problems experienced by some other PDML'ers, it's quite trivial. I had
> a small (1 cm diameter) cyst removed from my left cheek today. It was
> *much* larger a few weeks ago when the infection was running at full
> force. Anyway, I now have a gruesome-looking inch-long incision in my
> face, sewn up with very tough-looking black sutures! Perhaps I'll post
> a photo later. Or perhaps not. :)

Wishing you speedy and complete in a cosmetic sense recovery from your 
illness...

Though in Russian we say that scars make man more attractive to women 
I'd say the natural unaltered look is preferable.

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Re: Shot my first roll of film in ages.

[graywolf]

A Medalist? Bet there are not too many folks on the list even know what 
it is. Photography on Bald Mountain will convert it to 120 for lots of 
money. Their reputation is great, but I have never done any business 
with them. http://www.baldmtn.com/



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P. J. Alling wrote:
> About a year ago I enabled myself with a Kodak Medalist II and bought 
> some re-spooled 120 film to test it with.  After hearing so much talk 
> lately about medium format shooting I finally got around to running a 
> roll of TMAX 100 in the Medalist, the negatives, at least the ones that 
> I managed to expose properly, look gorgeous.  There are a few quirks to 
> this camera I'll have to get used to.  Now I have to figure out how I'm 
> going to print them since I no longer have a darkroom and there's no way 
> these will fit in my 35mm film scanner.  By the way, does this make me 
> an axillary member of the brotherhood?
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Re: Laid Off

[Boris Liberman]

Hi!

Wednesday, October 4, 2006, 9:21:11 AM, you wrote:

JC> Hey everyone.  I just got laid off!

JC> *weeps*

JC> I fear for the future of the company I am leaving.  I thought things 
were
JC> turning around, but they just laid me off.  Me, the cheapest graphic 
artist
JC> in California.  As far as my boss would tell me, the reason he laid 
me off
JC> is entirely due to money.

John, please accept our best wishes of finding a new job ASAP.

I once met a guy, way older than me, who being fired himself once was in 
the position of power in some company. Company dealing with software of 
course. I am a programmer, remember? :-). So he told me that always, no 
exception, when he had to fire someone, it was some kind of personal 
reason. I can also add to it that the only time I was fired myself, it 
was personal. And two times when I decided to walk away on my own, it 
was for personal reasons either...

I do hope my comment is not too brutal though it is honest.

So my humble suggestion here would be to take a deep breath, say a week 
long relaxation and then just go and find yourself a new job. There must 
be another place where you could work, and I am certain you are able to 
find it.

Boris


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Re: Shot my first roll of film in ages.

[P. J. Alling]

Naa, Having it converted is for wusses, I've decided to re-spool the 
film myself for now...

graywolf wrote:

>A Medalist? Bet there are not too many folks on the list even know what 
>it is. Photography on Bald Mountain will convert it to 120 for lots of 
>money. Their reputation is great, but I have never done any business 
>with them. http://www.baldmtn.com/
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K10D availability

[J and K Messervy]

I just spoke to someone at CR Kennedy and was told that since Pentax had the 
K10D at Photokina without the finalised firmware, they expect that their 
first shipment is about 6-8 weeks away.  Last time I spoke to someone, they 
said early Nov for the first shipment.  You'd think Pentax would have the 
firmware sorted before announcing it's release and availability date.

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Re: K10D availability

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "J and K Messervy"
Subject: K10D availability


>I just spoke to someone at CR Kennedy and was told that since Pentax 
>had the
> K10D at Photokina without the finalised firmware, they expect that 
> their
> first shipment is about 6-8 weeks away.  Last time I spoke to someone, 
> they
> said early Nov for the first shipment.  You'd think Pentax would have 
> the
> firmware sorted before announcing it's release and availability date.

If they did that, they wouldn't have to issue revised firmware.
They gotta get this thing to market, even if it needs some tweaking.

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Re: Home recovering from surgery

[Doug Brewer]

On Oct 4, 2006, at 6:29 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

> Don Sanderson wrote:
>
>> Sutures?
>> I'm jealous, all I ever get is staples! ;-)
>
> Staples? We'd 'ave been glad to 'ave staples! When I was a young man
> we used to 'ave to bind our wounds up with duct tape. *Used* duct
> tape!

Luxury!

We had to open our own wounds.

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Re: Shot my first roll of film in ages.

[Adam Maas]

graywolf wrote:
> A Medalist? Bet there are not too many folks on the list even know what 
> it is. Photography on Bald Mountain will convert it to 120 for lots of 
> money. Their reputation is great, but I have never done any business 
> with them. http://www.baldmtn.com/
> 
> 
A buddy of mine absolutely loves his. I'm more of a TLR guy myself though.

Probably going to take the Super Ricohflex out tomorrow. It's been too 
long since I've shot 120.

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Re: Need some help with lens reasembly...

[Michel Carrère-Gée]

mike wilson a écrit :
> Matt Kelch wrote:
>
>   
>> In trying to disassemble a lens I accidentally dislodged a few parts 
>> without getting a good look at how they went together and where they 
>> went.  I would greatly appreciate any help.  BTW, it is a SMC PENTAX-A 
>> 70-210mm lens.
>>
>> http://www.vulc4n.com/images/lens1.jpg
>> http://www.vulc4n.com/images/parts.jpg
>>
>> 
> Welcome to hours of fun!
>
> If you search the archives (you might have to go to mailarchive rather 
> than the pdml ones) for "A50/1.7", you should find a thread about 
> replacing these very parts.  There was a link to a diagram in there, 
> somewhere.
>   
Heere:
http://pentax-manuals.com/manuals/service/servicemanuals.htm

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Re: Home recovering from surgery

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Doug Brewer" 
Subject: Re: Home recovering from surgery


> 

> Luxury!
> 
> We had to open our own wounds.

We dreamt of wounds.
We only had little wee cuts.



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Re: New Monitor Time.

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi"
Subject: Re: New Monitor Time.



> Samsung has a couple of higher spec models in the same size at still
> reasonable prices ... not entirely sure how they differ but I'd be
> able to work with this one without difficulty.

Thanks Godfrey.
I am trying to decide if I can get the 24" one past the planning 
department.

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Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits?

[David Mann]

On Oct 5, 2006, at 5:38 AM, Jostein Øksne wrote:

>> From www.onelook.com:
> "Quick definitions (pom)
> noun:   a disparaging term for English immigrants to Australia or  
> New Zealand"

I wouldnt say it's disparaging, unless we're using the term "whinging  
pom" (very rare these days).  If what I see in the local news is  
anything to go by, the "whinging kiwi" is far more common :/

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Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits?

[David Mann]

On Oct 5, 2006, at 12:29 AM, David Savage wrote:

> It's pretty mild language here. I tend to utter it when something  
> stuffs up.
>
> An ad campaign a few years ago for Toyota New Zealand featured it  
> quite heavily:
>
> 
>
>> From what I've read it received 100+ official complaints in NZ and  
>> 1 here in Oz.
>
> I guess there are more prudes in New Zealand ;-)

The Broadcasting Standards Authority allowed it to air despite the  
mountains of complaints.

Bloody good too.  If there are any prudes in this country, I  
certainly don't know them.

- Dave (who tends to say much worse things than that)


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67 to bid or not to bid

[J and K Messervy]

I'm watching an auction for a Pentax 67 MLU with metered prism.  No lens and 
it has a grid focussing screen.  It is local so I can pick it up.  It is 
currently at AUD 142.50 with 30 minutes to go.  That is really cheap.  I'm 
torn though...do i bid or do I wait and go with a 645?  They both have their 
pros and cons but I'm leaning towards the 645 for real world convenience of 
use and the wider lens options. 


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Re: 67 to bid or not to bid

[David Savage]

At 01:55 PM 5/10/2006, J and K Messervy wrote:
>I'm watching an auction for a Pentax 67 MLU with metered prism.  No lens and
>it has a grid focussing screen.  It is local so I can pick it up.  It is
>currently at AUD 142.50 with 30 minutes to go.  That is really cheap.  I'm
>torn though...do i bid or do I wait and go with a 645?  They both have their
>pros and cons but I'm leaning towards the 645 for real world convenience of
>use and the wider lens options.


If the price doesn't go up much more I say go for it.

My thinking is if you're going to go medium format, get the bigger one.

Cheers,

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Re: Shot my first roll of film in ages.

[japilado]

I own a Medalist II.  I haven't used it in years.  I have one negative of
a sunset photo that I took at Oregon's Cannon Beach over 35 years ago.  I
still get georgeous enlargements from it.
My favorite vintage medium format camera is an Omega 120.  The Omega was
built in the U.S. and was the forerunner to the Koni-Omega cameras.  What
was unique about the Omega was that pressing on the shutter release also
put pressure on the plate behind the film so that it force the film flat
against the focal plane.  Unlike the Koni-Omegas,  the Omega 120 didn't
have interchangeable lenses.

Jim A.





> About a year ago I enabled myself with a Kodak Medalist II and bought
> some re-spooled 120 film to test it with.  After hearing so much talk
> lately about medium format shooting I finally got around to running a
> roll of TMAX 100 in the Medalist, the negatives, at least the ones that
> I managed to expose properly, look gorgeous.  There are a few quirks to
> this camera I'll have to get used to.  Now I have to figure out how I'm
> going to print them since I no longer have a darkroom and there's no way
> these will fit in my 35mm film scanner.  By the way, does this make me
> an axillary member of the brotherhood?
>
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Re: 67 to bid or not to bid

[J and K Messervy]

I decided not to rush things.  Tempted as I was, I let it go.  It went for 
$229.50 Aus...that is a real bargain for someone!

I'll still leaning for 645 for modern features and less vibration.  In the 
end, I suspect I'll get whichever I can get the best bargain on.


- Original Message - 
From: "David Savage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 4:07 PM
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> At 01:55 PM 5/10/2006, J and K Messervy wrote:
>>I'm watching an auction for a Pentax 67 MLU with metered prism.  No lens 
>>and
>>it has a grid focussing screen.  It is local so I can pick it up.  It is
>>currently at AUD 142.50 with 30 minutes to go.  That is really cheap.  I'm
>>torn though...do i bid or do I wait and go with a 645?  They both have 
>>their
>>pros and cons but I'm leaning towards the 645 for real world convenience 
>>of
>>use and the wider lens options.
>
>
> If the price doesn't go up much more I say go for it.
>
> My thinking is if you're going to go medium format, get the bigger one.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave
>
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RE: Home recovering from surgery

[Rick Womer]

Staples? Sutures? A lot of our surgeons are using
glue.

No kidding.

No "cool value" at all...

Rick

--- Don Sanderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Sutures?
> I'm jealous, all I ever get is staples! ;-)
> 
> Don (Whose belly looks like Zorro got him!)
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
> > Mark Roberts
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 3:52 PM
> > To: pdml@pdml.net
> > Subject: Home recovering from surgery
> > 
> > 
> > OK, I feel a bit of a prat about the subject line,
> even though I *did*
> > have surgery today. It's just that, considering
> some of the health
> > problems experienced by some other PDML'ers, it's
> quite trivial. I had
> > a small (1 cm diameter) cyst removed from my left
> cheek today. It was
> > *much* larger a few weeks ago when the infection
> was running at full
> > force. Anyway, I now have a gruesome-looking
> inch-long incision in my
> > face, sewn up with very tough-looking black
> sutures! Perhaps I'll post
> > a photo later. Or perhaps not. :)
> >  
> > -- 
> > Mark Roberts Photography & Multimedia
> > www.robertstech.com
> > 412-687-2835
> > 
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RE: Home recovering from surgery

[David Savage]

When I got into a punching match with a window many moons ago, all the 
doctor used was the medical equivalent of duct tap.

Mind you, it left me with a pretty cool scar on the back of my hand.

Dave

At 02:47 PM 5/10/2006, Rick Womer wrote:
>Staples? Sutures? A lot of our surgeons are using
>glue.
>
>No kidding.
>
>No "cool value" at all...
>
>Rick
>
>--- Don Sanderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Sutures?
> > I'm jealous, all I ever get is staples! ;-)
> >
> > Don (Whose belly looks like Zorro got him!)
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > Mark Roberts
> > >
> > > OK, I feel a bit of a prat about the subject line,
> > even though I *did*
> > > have surgery today. It's just that, considering
> > some of the health
> > > problems experienced by some other PDML'ers, it's
> > quite trivial. I had
> > > a small (1 cm diameter) cyst removed from my left
> > cheek today. It was
> > > *much* larger a few weeks ago when the infection
> > was running at full
> > > force. Anyway, I now have a gruesome-looking
> > inch-long incision in my
> > > face, sewn up with very tough-looking black
> > sutures! Perhaps I'll post
> > > a photo later. Or perhaps not. :)


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RE: GESO: What I did on my summer vacation

[Tim Øsleby]

Looks like you had a nice trip. 

I think I'll show the Rottie gallery to my wife. I like Rotties, and it is
time to replace Ludvik, but she is afraid of them, so she says no. I hope
these pictures could turn her around. She wants a Labrador. I like them too,
had two of them, but I'd like a bit smarter dog this time.


Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 

-Original Message-
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Sent: 2. oktober 2006 06:21
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Subject: GESO: What I did on my summer vacation

I shot about 1500 pictures.
I edited it down to a couple of hundred.

http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/2006vacation.html

Have fun

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Re: PESO - Famous Foto: 1972

[mike wilson]

Now it's reversed, looks like it's a leaf way in front of the fof.  It looked 
like a moving dog or something before - last night after a long day and a big 
glass of wine.






Parp.

> 
> From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2006/10/03 Tue PM 09:49:58 GMT
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Subject: Re: PESO - Famous Foto: 1972
> 
> Dunno, Mike  ... 
> 
> Shel
> 
> 
> 
> > [Original Message]
> > From: mike wilson 
> 
> > > http://home.earthlink.net/~ebay-pics/famousfoto.html
> >
> > What's the brown thing that looks like it has been spat out of the
> exhaust?
> 
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RE: PESO -- Inchworm

[Tim Øsleby]

Kids teach you nature, life, death and other stuff. All the important things
we tend to forget. It's wonderful.


Tim
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This is really a response to Paul's bandwagon thread.  Yesterday was
strange.  I spent the afternoon in PJ mode, shooting a family picnic
with the K100D.  I nearly filled a 1GB card in about two hours.

This is my daughter.  As I was taking this, she was explaining to me
that it was measuring her hand.

http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/PDMLPESO/photo#4981291498720985106

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RE: PESO - Fog

[Tim Øsleby]

God forbid.


Tim
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On 9/25/06, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 25/9/06, Bruce Dayton, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
> >Thanks, yes, it is a wind surfer.
>
> You could always use the clone tool...and have a fleet of them :-)

YES!

They could be in formation, perhaps spelling out patriotic sayings,
like "God Bless America"...

;-)

cheers,
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PESO - Another Cormorant

[Tim Øsleby]

Ok. I took my latest enablement for a test spin. I took a lot of boring
photographs of tiny birds in middle of frame (they where far from the shore
yesterday). But this fella had come back to it's regular spot. 

I was shooting almost directly into the sun. 
Kind of boring, but I felt like playing with levels, and out came this,
http://www.photosight.org/photo.php?photoid=44261&ref=author with rusty
look. The specks are bugs in the air. 

I can't explain why, but I like it. It is what I "see" when I see a
cormorant. Something out of space and time, something that has been here for
ever. 

BTW. The enablement is a M 500/4,5


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RE: GESO: What I did on my summer vacation

[mike wilson]

> 
> From: Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2006/10/04 Wed AM 07:21:28 GMT
> To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" 
> Subject: RE: GESO: What I did on my summer vacation
> 
> Looks like you had a nice trip. 
> 
> I think I'll show the Rottie gallery to my wife. I like Rotties, and it is
> time to replace Ludvik, but she is afraid of them, so she says no. I hope
> these pictures could turn her around. She wants a Labrador. I like them too,
> had two of them, but I'd like a bit smarter dog this time.
> 

Time for a cat.

8-)


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Re: PESO - Another Cormorant

[Boris Liberman]

Tim, did you think of B/W rendering?

It is somewhat soft, but without having any real experience in
shooting with anything longer than 210 mm I couldn't tell.

Boris


On 10/4/06, Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ok. I took my latest enablement for a test spin. I took a lot of boring
> photographs of tiny birds in middle of frame (they where far from the shore
> yesterday). But this fella had come back to it's regular spot.
>
> I was shooting almost directly into the sun.
> Kind of boring, but I felt like playing with levels, and out came this,
> http://www.photosight.org/photo.php?photoid=44261&ref=author with rusty
> look. The specks are bugs in the air.
>
> I can't explain why, but I like it. It is what I "see" when I see a
> cormorant. Something out of space and time, something that has been here for
> ever.
>
> BTW. The enablement is a M 500/4,5
>
>
> Tim
> Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
>
>
>
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PAW - "Sunflower"

[David Mann]

Back to the pretty flower photos.  I might print this one tomorrow.

http://www.bluemoon.net.nz/photo/photodb/view.php?p=568&t=1

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RE: PESO -- a proper portrait - Jocelyn

[Tim Øsleby]

A fine portrait IMO. I like the light and the pose. She seems comfortable
with situation. 
Is she a pro model? I'm just curious about the "situation" of the shoot. 

BTW: What lens and what stop?


Tim
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Subject: PESO -- a proper portrait - Jocelyn

http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/images/jocelynshort5-1window.jpg

I've been taking a portraiture course through my local community
college.  This was for an assignment.  I was using window light only.
I have other shots using off-camera flash as a fill, but this was by
far the best photo of the session.

:)

Any tips?  comments?  Thanks.
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Re: PESO - Another Cormorant

[David Mann]

On Oct 4, 2006, at 9:36 PM, Tim Øsleby wrote:

> http://www.photosight.org/photo.php?photoid=44261&ref=author

Stunning light.  Pity about the bugs, but I guess you gotta take the  
ugly nature with the pretty nature :)

- Dave


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RE: PESO - Another Cormorant

[Tim Øsleby]

B/W? Could be worth a try. Thanks ;-)

But I do wonder, does the "idea" get across?


Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 

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Boris Liberman
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Tim, did you think of B/W rendering?

It is somewhat soft, but without having any real experience in
shooting with anything longer than 210 mm I couldn't tell.

Boris


On 10/4/06, Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ok. I took my latest enablement for a test spin. I took a lot of boring
> photographs of tiny birds in middle of frame (they where far from the
shore
> yesterday). But this fella had come back to it's regular spot.
>
> I was shooting almost directly into the sun.
> Kind of boring, but I felt like playing with levels, and out came this,
> http://www.photosight.org/photo.php?photoid=44261&ref=author with rusty
> look. The specks are bugs in the air.
>
> I can't explain why, but I like it. It is what I "see" when I see a
> cormorant. Something out of space and time, something that has been here
for
> ever.
>
> BTW. The enablement is a M 500/4,5
>
>
> Tim
> Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
>
>
>
>
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Re: Pentax Life

[Paul Stenquist]

All of the images I saw on Pentax Life were Pentax PR pics that were 
also used on DPreview but were not exclusively theirs.
Paul
On Oct 3, 2006, at 11:02 PM, David Savage wrote:

> I think it's overstating it a bit calling to call it a "valuable 
> service",
> but for those without the inclination to read the PDML or follow the 
> Pentax
> SLR forum at DPreview it does a good job of hitting the high points of 
> the
> going rumors.
>
> The thing that turned me off it was the images used without credit 
> taken
> from DPreview.
>
> Dave
>
> At 10:44 AM 4/10/2006, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> This guy is providing a valuable service. I wouldn't say anything on
>> the list that I didn't want other Pentax owners to hear. I find it a
>> little paranoid to worry about him quoting the list. Quote away, I 
>> say.
>> Paul
>> On Oct 3, 2006, at 10:01 PM, John Coyle wrote:
>>
>>> Shel, if you go to http://www.publicdomainregistry.com/whois/ and
>>> enter the
>>> domain name you will find it is published by a guy in Russia.  He
>>> obviously
>>> sources material from this list as well as others - is that an OK
>>> thing to
>>> do?  I'd be a little uncomfortable at being quoted without being
>>> asked -
>>> this is not a public forum, after all.
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Re: PESO - Another Cormorant

[Paul Stenquist]

Interesting, although the bugs are a distraction. You could clone them 
out. Just pretend you're cleaning up a film scan:-).
Paul
On Oct 4, 2006, at 4:36 AM, Tim Øsleby wrote:

> Ok. I took my latest enablement for a test spin. I took a lot of boring
> photographs of tiny birds in middle of frame (they where far from the 
> shore
> yesterday). But this fella had come back to it's regular spot.
>
> I was shooting almost directly into the sun.
> Kind of boring, but I felt like playing with levels, and out came this,
> http://www.photosight.org/photo.php?photoid=44261&ref=author with rusty
> look. The specks are bugs in the air.
>
> I can't explain why, but I like it. It is what I "see" when I see a
> cormorant. Something out of space and time, something that has been 
> here for
> ever.
>
> BTW. The enablement is a M 500/4,5
>
>
> Tim
> Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Pentax Life

[Kostas Kavoussanakis]

On Tue, 3 Oct 2006, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

> Apart from anything else, our email addresses are no longer private.

Given that anyone can subscribe to the list, they never were private.

Kostas

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Re: D-Xenogon 35

[Sylwester Pietrzyk]

On 03.10.2006, at 17:16 , Boris Liberman wrote:

> Which, just by the way, means that people who shoot other brands will
> have easy access to Pentax lenses *and coatings*.
Other brands won't have weather sealings and ultrasonic AF in these  
new Tokinas ;-) And Tokina will have their own coatings (they have  
used glass and coatings from Hoya since they become part of this  
company).
THEY won't get our precious! ;-)

Cheers,
Sylwek



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Re: Pentax Life

[David Savage]

True, but the shots of the old Pentax concept cameras were ripped
straight from DPR.

Dave

On 10/4/06, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> All of the images I saw on Pentax Life were Pentax PR pics that were
> also used on DPreview but were not exclusively theirs.
> Paul

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Re: K10D vs D80

[Martin Trautmann]

On 2006-09-29 14:25, Juan Buhler wrote:
> Of course, I suggested he goes with the K10D, saying that its specs
> are closer to a D200 than to a D80. He's leaning towards it, but says
> that he likes that Nikon has an 18-135 lens--he doesn't want to carry
> any extra lenses (!).

He should take a compact camera instead. What's the use of having
exchangable lenses, when you don't want to exchange them. Get a decent
Sony etc. instead...

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