RE: Way OT: Are there any golfers here?

2006-10-15 Thread Jens Bladt
LOL...

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> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Jens Bladt"
> Subject: Way OT: Are there any golfers here?
> 
> 
> > Man, I won a trial membership of a local club. I wonder if I
should 
> > pick up
> > golf. Poit and shoot, really. And no darkroom/computer work 
> later :-)
> > Perhaps a hole in one is easier than getting that perfect 
> sports shot:
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/268361406/
> > Darded noise :-(
> 

I'll try and break this gently: that isn't golf.

It's a great picture though.


> I find golf often puts me where nice pictures are.
> 
> William Robb 
> 

Really? Golf courses are horrible places where rich people dress like
chavs. 

I went on a corporate golf day a few weeks ago, having not played
since I was a teenager. Turned out I wasn't too bad at it (that is, I
managed to hit the ball more often than not). 

The secret is, it's not like squash or ping-pong where the ball moves
pretty fast and you have to move around pretty fast to hit it. In golf
the ball's not doing anything and not going anywhere, and you can take
your time before you hit it. It all seems rather one-sided and
unsporting if you ask me.

Bob


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RE: Way OT: Are there any golfers here?

2006-10-15 Thread Jens Bladt
Bob wrote:
In golf the ball's not doing anything and not going anywhere,

I just watched a shooting competion on TV - in distance and speed. The
winner shot the ball 295 meters and the ball reached a top speed of 309
km/h.
That's formula 1- speed, isn't it?
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>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jens Bladt"
> Subject: Way OT: Are there any golfers here?
>
>
> > Man, I won a trial membership of a local club. I wonder if I
should
> > pick up
> > golf. Poit and shoot, really. And no darkroom/computer work
> later :-)
> > Perhaps a hole in one is easier than getting that perfect
> sports shot:
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/268361406/
> > Darded noise :-(
>

I'll try and break this gently: that isn't golf.

It's a great picture though.


> I find golf often puts me where nice pictures are.
>
> William Robb
>

Really? Golf courses are horrible places where rich people dress like
chavs.

I went on a corporate golf day a few weeks ago, having not played
since I was a teenager. Turned out I wasn't too bad at it (that is, I
managed to hit the ball more often than not).

The secret is, it's not like squash or ping-pong where the ball moves
pretty fast and you have to move around pretty fast to hit it. In golf
the ball's not doing anything and not going anywhere, and you can take
your time before you hit it. It all seems rather one-sided and
unsporting if you ask me.

Bob


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Re: Show in Japan

2006-10-15 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Thanks for the report, Ken.
My order is in, I wait patiently.

Godfrey



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Re: PESO: steel and soccer

2006-10-15 Thread David Mann
On Oct 16, 2006, at 1:39 PM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:

> http://www.photosight.ru/photo.php?photoid=1706216

Nice.  I really like the colours.

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RE: Way OT: Are there any golfers here?

2006-10-15 Thread Jens Bladt
Thanks, Bill -I have been toying with a similar thought.
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- Original Message -
From: "Jens Bladt"
Subject: Way OT: Are there any golfers here?


> Man, I won a trial membership of a local club. I wonder if I should
> pick up
> golf. Poit and shoot, really. And no darkroom/computer work later :-)
> Perhaps a hole in one is easier than getting that perfect sports shot:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/268361406/
> Darded noise :-(

I find golf often puts me where nice pictures are.

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Re: Your first camera

2006-10-15 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
My first camera was a 127 film Kodak Brownie Starmite, which I was  
given about age 6. After that, a 126 format Kodak Instamatic 300.

First camera I bought that had user control of aperture and shutter  
was a Minolta 16p. A whopping $23 when I was 8 yo.

1967-1968, my mom let me use her Argus C3, then my grandfather gave  
me his 1949 Rolleiflex.

After that, during school year 1968-1969, I bought a Nikon F Photomic  
FTn with my uncle's help, and later in 1969 a pair of Leicas (IIc and  
IIf with 5.0 and 3.5cm lenses) for $99.

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Re: Thoughts on the digital format

2006-10-15 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Oct 16, 2006, at 1:34 AM, Digital Image Studio wrote:

> On 16/10/06, Gonz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> There might be some improvements to the hardware, i.e. faster and  
>> more
>> accurate autofocus, wireless, etc.  But the only real direction I can
>> see is software.  I.e. focus fix after the fact, software guided
>> panoramic stitching in camera, automatic coordination with online  
>> album
>> programs and web sites, etc.
>
> IOW mainly fluff, not much of consequence in store for the serious  
> photographer.

Kinda like 35mm SLR cameras since 1982, in my opinion. I never found  
anything that did a substantially better job than my Nikon FM/FE2/F3  
SLRs or Leica M6 in 35mm.

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Re: PESO: steel and soccer

2006-10-15 Thread jkmess
Quoting David Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> On Oct 16, 2006, at 1:39 PM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:
> 
> > http://www.photosight.ru/photo.php?photoid=1706216
> 
> Nice.  I really like the colours.
> 
> - Dave
> 

I don't know what it has to do with soccer, but it's a beautifully exposed 
shot.  
Very peaceful with great colour. 
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Re: PDML Mini-FAQ Link

2006-10-15 Thread John Celio
> http://www.graywolfphoto.com/pentax/pdml-faq.html

No offense, Mr. Wolf, but does anyone actually visit that page?

How about posting the FAQ itself in a monthly message?  I think some people 
might be more inclined to read it if it was sitting in their inbox.

Just an idea.

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RE: The JCO survey

2006-10-15 Thread J. C. O'Connell
FD users can still buy nice clean usable film bodies
Even today let alone 20 years ago when EOS
Started up. Its called ebay.
jco

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> EOS went with all electronic controls.
> FD might have been able to mount but
> With no aperture control sorta like
> The way M42 lenses mount on PK bodies.
> I doubt that would have appeased
> Canon FD users one bit.

Utter crap. They would have been able to take pictures with their FD 
lenses after their present bodies wore out.
That would have been better than what they got.

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RE: OT - loss of a PDML member

2006-10-15 Thread Simon King
Dear Grant
I am so sorry to hear the news. Although it must have been a shock, one
saving grace is that he didn't suffer for long.
My best wishes for you and yours.  
Simon


>I am sad to announce the death of PDML member Powell Hargrave, who was
my
> brother. Powell was struck down by lung cancer on October 10, less
then a
> week after the cancer had been diagnosed. He had been suffering from
what 
> he
> thought was a pesky pneumonia for a couple of months, happily he was
not 
> in
> pain in his last days.
>
> Powell bought his first Pentax in the early '60s and subsequently
studied
> photography in California and then as a member of the Royal Canadian
Air
> Force. He quit the RCAF to go to the University of British Colombia
and
> worked as a wedding photographer to make money on the side as well as 
> being
> a staff photographer for the student paper.
>
> He taught me the basics of photography and I ended up with his Pentax
S1a
> back in the '70s. I have since always had at least one Pentax, except
for 
> a
> short period a couple of years ago when I thought mistakenly that a 
> digital
> could do it all and sold my K1000. When I realised the digital camera
I
> could afford couldn't do all I wanted, Powell sent me off to eBay to
get a
> decent Pentax film camera, and encouraged me in my subsequent Pentax
> collecting fever.
>
> He maintained his interest in photography throughout his life even
though 
> he
> seldom earned his living directly from it. I noticed his last 
> contributions
> to the PDML were at the beginning of October, a couple of days before
his
> health failed.
>
> He was a wonderfully "jack of all trades" but with the twist of being
> "master of several". The explanation of how he fixed his Pentax F
70-210
> lens is a good example. See his site;
> http://members.shaw.ca/hargravep/
>
> Powell worked at the Nanaimo BC art gallery for the last 18 years, a 
> tribute
> publish earlier this year;
> http://www.mala.bc.ca/~nag/news.htm
>
> Go out and take a picture in his memory... or take your camera apart -

> that
> is what he would have done.
>
> Grant Hargrave
> (Spotmatic, SP500, KX, KM, K1000, MX and all the M-series (including 2
MF 
> Es
> with SMC Pentax AF 35-70/2.8
> lenses), MZ-50, P3... Powell was a bad influence!)
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Re: K10D 22 bit A/D conversion

2006-10-15 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 16/10/06, J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Not sure, I use a special downconverter software called
> R8 Brain (Rate brain) at the highest quality setting.
> It does so many calculations that it takes about
> 10 minutes for a three minute song.

Thanks for the pointer John, the authors Voxengo specifically indicate
that they do not apply dither as part of the data rate conversion,
they have an interesting array of audio processing software utilities.

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Re: K10D 22 bit A/D conversion

2006-10-15 Thread William Robb

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Subject: RE: K10D 22 bit A/D conversion


> Yes I think they are. www.goldwave.com

Thanks John.
bill



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Re: Peso - Fall's Glory

2006-10-15 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: "Tom C" 
Subject: Peso - Fall's Glory


> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5082662
> 

It either needs more sharpening or less.

William Robb


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Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-15 Thread William Robb

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From: "J. C. O'Connell"
Subject: RE: The JCO survey


> EOS went with all electronic controls.
> FD might have been able to mount but
> With no aperture control sorta like
> The way M42 lenses mount on PK bodies.
> I doubt that would have appeased
> Canon FD users one bit.

Utter crap. They would have been able to take pictures with their FD 
lenses after their present bodies wore out.
That would have been better than what they got.

William Robb 



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RE: K1D aperture simulator, part Three (III)- NOT

2006-10-15 Thread David Savage
At 04:16 AM 16/10/2006, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
>No, I did lie and I am not a liar.

Mark!

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Re: K10D 22 bit A/D conversion

2006-10-15 Thread P. J. Alling
Does someone actually ride that?, (thought I suppose a more relevant 
question is, Is it real?)

Shel Belinkoff wrote:

>Here's another Big Baaad Bike .
>http://home.earthlink.net/~ebay-pics/rotary.jpg
>
>
>Shel
>
>
>
>  
>
>>[Original Message]
>>From: Digital Image Studio 
>>
>>
>
>  
>
>>>I believe the "Boss Hoss" motorcycle is a Chevy V-8 engine as well.
>>>Wrapping a motorcycle frame around a V-8 motor makes for an unwieldy
>>>ride, but a heck of a large power-to-weight ratio!
>>>
>>>http://www.bosshoss.net/view_bike.asp?x=BHC3502
>>>  
>>>
>>That's a bit wicked but I think the following bike relates a little
>>more to the thread subject :-)
>>
>>http://www.bigbikeriders.com/48cyl.htm
>>
>>
>
>
>
>  
>


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Re: Way OT: Are there any golfers here?

2006-10-15 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: "Bob W" <
Subject: RE: Way OT: Are there any golfers here?


>> 

>> I find golf often puts me where nice pictures are.
>> 
> 
> Really? Golf courses are horrible places where rich people dress like
> chavs. 
> 

I tend to hang out in "the rough"

William Robb


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Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-15 Thread Adam Maas
Joseph Tainter wrote:
> Apart from the drive mode I don't see where you lose a knob/button
> going from a D to a K10D (at least those who were well thought of).
> Tell me.
> 
> -
> 
> As I wrote, the issues for me are setting the ISO and drive modes. I am 
> not looking forward to having to set the ISO on the K10D by going 
> through the function menu. In part, I prefer to work at the top of the 
> camera, rather than hving to go to the back. Setting ISO through the 
> function menu will take more steps than is the case with the D. And in 
> bright light, setting ISO through the rear lcd will be difficult. Guess 
> what? I live and work in places with bright light.
> 
> So now someone will want to post that I shouldn't be bothered by this 
> change, it really is very easy to set ISO through the function menu. 
> Save it, please. I have thought this through, and know what works for 
> me. Whatever works for you, that's fine.
> 
> A better solution would be a separate button to set ISO.
> 
> Joe

Having used both methods, the Fn menu is FAR superior to the ISO setting 
on the Mode dial. With the former, you can change ISO settings without 
taking the camera out of shooting mode or even taking it away from your 
eye, and the camera will take a picture if you double-tap the shutter 
(once to dismiss the menu, the second to take the shot).

There are no issues using the rear LCD in bright light, text is white on 
black background, so it's very clear even in the brightest light.

Whil I certainly think an ISO button would be a good thing, the Fn menu 
is faster than the mode dial option, and the camera is always ready to 
take a picture, unlike the mode dial, which drops the camera into a mode 
where you can't take a picture.

Whoever put the WB and ISO on the mode dial on the D should be shot. 
It's the worst setup I've seen for ISO and WB. Even menu diving is 
better, since you can still take a shot quickly, unlike with the dial.

-Adam


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RE: printing on metallic paper?

2006-10-15 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
HI, Igor
I have an epson r220 which has a feature for printing on cd/dvds - the
discs themselves, that is.  
I have a project that I need to print on acetate sheets and it occured to me
to use the CD/DVD setting that my printer allows - it worked like a charm.
But I'm not printing in color - just black and white. 

I'm guessing that it word work for metallic coated paper. 

 ann



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Hello!

Does anybody print photos on metallic paper?  
If yes, - all pointers will be appreciated, in particular:
1. Places (print shops/photo labs) that do a good job at a reasonable price.
2. Possible variations (paper type, printer type, ..?)
3. What to watch for?
4. Hints on preparing of the digital files for such metallic prints?

What type of printers can be used to print on metallic paper? 
Ink Jets? Can laser printers be used?

Thank you,

Igor



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Re: OT: Pelican 1510 as Carry on

2006-10-15 Thread Otis C. Wright, Jr.
Thank you Bob, John, Godfrey, and Rob.  

Rob,  I'll have a look at UK product.   I use a lot of the small pelican 
boxes and have been quite impressed with them. 

Have a good week.

Otis

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

>The Pelican 1510 is just about the precise dimensions given me by  
>United's travel assistance center as being their limit for carry-on  
>luggage. I've had no problems using it as carry on luggage to date.
>
>http://www.pelican.com/cases_detail.php?Case=1510
>
>You don't say what kind of smaller case you want, but if you want  
>another Pelican like case, check out their website.
>
>Godfrey
>
>On Oct 15, 2006, at 8:59 PM, Otis C. Wright, Jr. wrote:
>
>  
>
>>I am considering the Pelican 1510 for use as a carry-on case (for air
>>travel) that will provide good protection if circumstances require the
>>case to travel as checked luggage.   Contents will be laptop/laptop
>>accessories/backup camera/camera accessories.  For the most part, I
>>carry primary camera(s) in briefcase.
>>
>>Interested in comments from anyone who has used this case as a  
>>carry-on
>>or as checked luggage.  Primarily looking for problems you may have
>>encountered  and alternate choices of about same size.
>>
>>Secondarily, also looking for a case maybe two thirds the size of the
>>1510, same application but less equipment.
>>
>>
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>
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Re: Show in Japan

2006-10-15 Thread kwaller
>Pentax engineers don't know what they're doing and 
> that the processing engine of the K10D doesn't work.

How could it? It doesn't have an aperture simulator !

Kenneth Waller

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> I'm sorry Ken but I don't believe a word of this. Experts on the PDML 
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> conclusively that Pentax engineers don't know what they're doing and 
> that the processing engine of the K10D doesn't work.
> ;-)
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Re: Peso - Fall's Glory

2006-10-15 Thread kwaller
I like your different take on a familiar theme. Well done.

Kenneth Waller

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> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5082662
> 
> *ist D, FA 100/2.8 Macro
> 
> Tom C.
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Re: OT: joys and woes of new computer - couple of questions

2006-10-15 Thread Eactivist
Correction, graywolf, I do have the .Net Passport connected to my main user 
account. But like I said, .Net Framework will run without it. 

I seriously doubt, in other words, that that is your problem. Look in your 
user accounts and see if a .Net Passport is even there. I suspect your problem 
actually may be that your computer is set up as a Server in a network. 

HTH, Marnie 

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Re: OT: joys and woes of new computer - couple of questions

2006-10-15 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/15/2006 5:07:41 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
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No, it does not, I have logins disabled with .NET Framework running.

No, I take that back, I have it setup for automatic logins to the base 
account, now that I think about it. Hum...?

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Net Framework will continue to work with the Net Passport logon disabled. The 
Net Passport is used when accessing MSN web pages. Exactly WHAT it is, not 
sure, I think it's just a big cookie. 

I attached it to my administrator logon in case I needed it for programming, 
but come to think of it I rarely change from my Marnie logon to the 
administrator logon, so I think it's pretty much unnecessary. (I did have it 
disconnected, the Net Passport logon on that is, for quite sometime, then when 
I started 
accessing MSN pages again for programming help it seemed to reinstall itself, 
so I gave up on removing it completely.) 

I program in VB.Net., and as far as I know, the Net Passport logon for 
non-programmers is a non-issue. Just remove it if it is present. Net Framework 
will 
continue to work. Got to Control Panel, users first, and see if it's even 
there. Net Framework itself will work in the background when a VB.Net program 
is 
run, and there will be no way you know of its existence otherwise.

I do not claim to be an expert on this, but that is my experience.

Marnie aka Doe 

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Re: Your first camera

2006-10-15 Thread Peter Jordan
My first was also an instamatic.

Am I unique (or stupid, or both) in only using slide film in my instamatic. 
I have a box full of square format slides somewhere in the study.

I graduated from that to a Zenit E (compulsory for any budding photographer 
in the 1970s UK), then on to an ME Super and it's been Pentax all the way 
since then.

Have been out today in the Rocky Mountain National Park and am developing a 
new technique for landscape photography.

1. Identify potential shot.
2. Use istDL2 as polaroid to review exposure, lens coverage etc.
3. Take killer shot on 645

It'll be interesting if the hit rate from the trannies is better than usual.

Peter

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> First camera was a Kodak 126 Instamatic. My parents bought me a K1000 when 
> I
> was 16 and my 35mm and digital cameras have been Pentax ever since.
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Re: Peso - Fall's Glory

2006-10-15 Thread Jack Davis
Beautiful arrangement. Love the placement of the soft delicate
lighting.
Very nice!

Jack

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Re: OT: joys and woes of new computer - couple of questions

2006-10-15 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/15/2006 7:22:09 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
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> I go to great lengths to customize, eliminate, or avoid software 
> annoyances. How do I avoid this one? What software should I avoid?
See also http://www.mvps.org/marksxp/WindowsXP/aspdot.php

=
Later versions of Net Framework don't do it. It was only 1.1. And the user 
logon was not necessary for running executables. So I doubt that it is a 
problem 
that has come up for people lately with recent XP and recent Framework, etc. 

I was actually speaking of something else, myself, having to do with using 
Net Framework for programming, under XP Pro. And now that I have 
double-checked, 
yes I removed that particular logon also. But I did keep two user logons 
going for other reasons.

In other words, it's not something most people have to worry about. Or 
download a newer version of .Net Framework.

Marnie aka Doe 

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Peso - Fall's Glory

2006-10-15 Thread Joseph Tainter
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5082662

*ist D, FA 100/2.8 Macro

Tom C.

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Nice, Tom. Very easy on the eyes.

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Re: Show in Japan

2006-10-15 Thread graywolf
LOL!

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> I'm sorry Ken but I don't believe a word of this. Experts on the PDML 
> have counted the incoming photons and outgoing electrons and proven 
> conclusively that Pentax engineers don't know what they're doing and 
> that the processing engine of the K10D doesn't work.
> ;-)
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Re: OT: joys and woes of new computer - couple of questions

2006-10-15 Thread John Francis
On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 04:48:07PM -0700, Joseph Tainter wrote:
> .NET framework comes with various things, very few of which are
> tied to XP Pro (which, unless you are on a large network, is
> pretty much indistinguishable from XP Home or XP Media Edition).
> I'm not sure now what I installed that required .NET framework
> on my (XP) notebook; I think it might have been Adobe Lightroom.
> 
> -
> 
> Okay, you've got my attention. I take it that .NET forces you to log in 
> even if otherwise you don't want or need to? Is that correct?

Only indirectly.   Installing the .NET framework (which is needed
for all sorts of applications: I got it when installing Lightroom,
but I'm sure there are other useful applications that require it)
creates a new user account (named ASP.NET Machine Account).
If you have more than one user account then you will be forced to
log in, rather than being able to automatically log in at startup.
 
> I go to great lengths to customize, eliminate, or avoid software 
> annoyances. How do I avoid this one? What software should I avoid?

I got rid of the login screen by adding an entry to the registry.

Under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows 
NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\SpecialAccounts\UserList,
creating a DWORD named ASPNET "hides" this account from logins.
(Registry editing, of course, should only be attempted by people
who feel comfortable playing down in the innards of the software;
a mistake in this process can render your whole machine unusable).

See also http://www.mvps.org/marksxp/WindowsXP/aspdot.php

This suggests that deleting the account would work, but I wasn't
brave enough to try that.  (It also suggests that this problem
is fixed in Service Pack 1 for the .NET framework, but based on
my experience this isn't the case; that's why I resorted to the
registry trick, and why I'm a little cautious about taking any
other advice or assurances from that page).

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Re: Peso - Fall's Glory

2006-10-15 Thread Tom C


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Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 21:34:01 -0400

I like the tone.
Where did this soft blur come from?  DOF?  Doesn't look like so.

Ken


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PDML Germany?

2006-10-15 Thread Rick Womer
My travels will be taking me to Cologne and Gottingen
in about two weeks.  It would be fun to meet some
PDMLers, drink some beer, and shoot.

Email me off-list if available.

Rick

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Re: Peso - Fall's Glory

2006-10-15 Thread Brendan MacRae
Terrific, Tom.

Really nice.

-Brendan

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2006-10-15 Thread Paul Stenquist
I wouldn't count on it. B&H is closed until tomorrow. And as of right  
now, they don't have the camera in stock. But I wish you well on this.
Paul
On Sep 12, 2006, at 1:57 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

> I've ordered a body from B&H.
> Now I need it to deliver before 10/21/06 so It can go to NZ & AU  
> with me.
> Woo Hoo!
> Regards,  Bob S.
>
> On 9/12/06, John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 12, 2006 at 08:43:59AM -0700, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
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>>> On Sep 12, 2006, at 7:53 AM, Mike Hamilton wrote:
>>>
 http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?
 A=search&Q=&b=21&a=157_1127&a=706_6375&mnp=0.0&mxp=0.0&cmpsrch=&clt 
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 http://tinyurl.com/hcrc3

 $919 body only, 999 with 18-55
>>>
>>> Yes, it's coming soon.
>>>
>>> $919 .. darn near what I paid for my first *ist DS. ;-)
>>
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Re: Peso - Fall's Glory

2006-10-15 Thread K.Takeshita
I like the tone.
Where did this soft blur come from?  DOF?  Doesn't look like so.

Ken


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Re: K10D 22 bit A/D conversion

2006-10-15 Thread K.Takeshita
On 10/15/06 9:14 PM, "Shel Belinkoff", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Here's another Big Baaad Bike .
> http://home.earthlink.net/~ebay-pics/rotary.jpg

All these monster leg cookers look outrageous.   No...  UNREAL! :-)

Ken


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RE: printing on metallic paper?

2006-10-15 Thread Eugene Homme
Red River Paper (http://www.redrivercatalog.com/browse/cat=4&prod=30.htm)
offers a paper coated with either silver or gold metallic film for use with
inkjet printers. It is not recommended for use with pigmented ink printers,
however.

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Hello!

Does anybody print photos on metallic paper?  
If yes, - all pointers will be appreciated, in particular:
1. Places (print shops/photo labs) that do a good job at a reasonable price.
2. Possible variations (paper type, printer type, ..?)
3. What to watch for?
4. Hints on preparing of the digital files for such metallic prints?

What type of printers can be used to print on metallic paper? 
Ink Jets? Can laser printers be used?

Thank you,

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Peso - Fall's Glory

2006-10-15 Thread Tom C
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*ist D, FA 100/2.8 Macro

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Re: K10D 22 bit A/D conversion

2006-10-15 Thread Mark Roberts
graywolf wrote:

>I have met more clueless engineers than I have clueless morons. 

I've met dozens of clueless engineers. But almost all of them were 
*damned* good in their speciffic area of engineering. The cluelessness 
almost always manifests itself when they try to extrapolate knowledge 
of their specialty into other areas. One friend was (well, is) a 
brilliant valve-train engineer who has several really innovative 
patents to his name. I couldn't even follow simplified explanations of 
how he designed stuff. But my other friends and I often have to help 
him figure out problems with his motorcycle.

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Re: Show in Japan

2006-10-15 Thread Marco Alpert
Coverage (in Japanese) and photos from the show (including one of the  
comparison prints) here:

http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/dslr/2006/10/16/4833.html

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Re: K10D 22 bit A/D conversion

2006-10-15 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Here's another Big Baaad Bike .
http://home.earthlink.net/~ebay-pics/rotary.jpg


Shel



> [Original Message]
> From: Digital Image Studio 

> > I believe the "Boss Hoss" motorcycle is a Chevy V-8 engine as well.
> > Wrapping a motorcycle frame around a V-8 motor makes for an unwieldy
> > ride, but a heck of a large power-to-weight ratio!
> >
> > http://www.bosshoss.net/view_bike.asp?x=BHC3502
>
> That's a bit wicked but I think the following bike relates a little
> more to the thread subject :-)
>
> http://www.bigbikeriders.com/48cyl.htm



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Re: Show in Japan

2006-10-15 Thread jkmess
Quoting Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> I'm sorry Ken but I don't believe a word of this. Experts on the PDML
> 
> have counted the incoming photons and outgoing electrons and proven 
> conclusively that Pentax engineers don't know what they're doing and
> 
> that the processing engine of the K10D doesn't work.
> ;-)
> 
*

Yeah, and since the K10D only deals with real apertures and not simulated ones, 
I'm 
seriously considering cancelling my pre-order.

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RE: K10D 22 bit A/D conversion

2006-10-15 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Yes I think they are. www.goldwave.com
jco

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>I forgot to mention, I record at 96KHz sampling rate with 24 bit
> Bit depth, process, and then downconvert at the very end to 44.1 KHz
> sampling rate And 16 bits which is the CD standard.

Thanks John. I was wondering if Goldwave was still around.

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Re: Show in Japan

2006-10-15 Thread K.Takeshita
On 10/15/06 9:03 PM, "Mark Roberts", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm sorry Ken but I don't believe a word of this. Experts on the PDML
> have counted the incoming photons and outgoing electrons and proven
> conclusively that Pentax engineers don't know what they're doing and
> that the processing engine of the K10D doesn't work.
> ;-)

LOL :-)))

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Re: Show in Japan

2006-10-15 Thread Mark Roberts
I'm sorry Ken but I don't believe a word of this. Experts on the PDML 
have counted the incoming photons and outgoing electrons and proven 
conclusively that Pentax engineers don't know what they're doing and 
that the processing engine of the K10D doesn't work.
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RE: The JCO survey

2006-10-15 Thread J. C. O'Connell
EOS went with all electronic controls.
FD might have been able to mount but
With no aperture control sorta like
The way M42 lenses mount on PK bodies.
I doubt that would have appeased 
Canon FD users one bit.
jco

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> Give up with this stupidity. Canon FD/EOS
> Change is not the same as PENTAX film SLR /DSLR
> Change because pentax did not change the mount
> In any way (except to ignore K/M aperture settings
> At a cost savings of about $5 in parts).
> Why cant you get that through your little head?
>

Canon likely could have engineered the EOS mount in such a way that an 
FD lens could have been mounted via a non optical adaptor for no extra 
cost at all.
Why can't you get that through your rather thick head?

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Re: K10D 22 bit A/D conversion

2006-10-15 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 16/10/06, Charles Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I believe the "Boss Hoss" motorcycle is a Chevy V-8 engine as well.
> Wrapping a motorcycle frame around a V-8 motor makes for an unwieldy
> ride, but a heck of a large power-to-weight ratio!
>
> One example here: http://www.bosshoss.net/view_bike.asp?x=BHC3502

That's a bit wicked but I think the following bike relates a little
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http://www.bigbikeriders.com/48cyl.htm

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RE: K10D 22 bit A/D conversion

2006-10-15 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Not sure, I use a special downconverter software called
R8 Brain (Rate brain) at the highest quality setting.
It does so many calculations that it takes about
10 minutes for a three minute song.
jco

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On 16/10/06, J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I forgot to mention, I record at 96KHz sampling rate with 24 bit
> Bit depth, process, and then downconvert at the very end to 44.1 KHz
> sampling rate And 16 bits which is the CD standard.

Do you apply any particular dither type during the down conversion?

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Re: Show in Japan

2006-10-15 Thread Ken Takeshita
On 10/15/06, K.Takeshita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 3. There were two samples in ISO 1000 and 1600.  It said in the samples that
> those are not based on the latest firmware.

Firmware was said to be 0.2
Pentax explanation on the floor said they were not forcing the removal
of the nosie, colour noise or colour moire.  Instead, they are going
by the extremely finer gradation to render very natural images.  They
further said that if anyone would be bothered by the colour moire etc,
it can be easily removed by post processing.  Folks did not see any
appreciable noise in the sample prints.  Considering these were based
on v0.2 firmware, they were impressed.

Ken

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Re: report on Mini PDML LONDON

2006-10-15 Thread Amita Guha
On 10/15/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ten Pentaxians came together at or near the appointed hour in Camden
> Town.

Sounds like fun! Wish I'd been able to join you guys this time. :)

Amita

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PESO: steel and soccer

2006-10-15 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
The valley of the river Meuse with the Cockerill Sambre blast furnace
plant on the right and the soccer stadium of Standard Liège on the left
while they were winning 2-1 against Roeselare, last Saturday. 

Ougrée (B)

Kiev 60 MLU, Biometar 2.8/80 mm - panorama made of two frames, mounted
with PTools:

http://www.photosight.ru/photo.php?photoid=1706216

Your comments and suggestions are as always most welcome.

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Re: Thoughts on the digital format. Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-15 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 16/10/06, Gonz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> There might be some improvements to the hardware, i.e. faster and more
> accurate autofocus, wireless, etc.  But the only real direction I can
> see is software.  I.e. focus fix after the fact, software guided
> panoramic stitching in camera, automatic coordination with online album
> programs and web sites, etc.

IOW mainly fluff, not much of consequence in store for the serious photographer.

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Show in Japan

2006-10-15 Thread K.Takeshita
K10D Experiencing & Talk Shaw (or whatever it's called) was held, and some
skimpy reports are trickling out now.  I am sure more would be out tomorrow.
So far, various posts say;

1. Re the delivery delay, Pentax's reason seems to be true.  They realized
that the current stock level was obviously inadequate.  But the production
has started approx a month ago.

2. Pentax are not in a position to confirm or deny if the new SSM lenses
would have a dual AF system (AF screw drive coupling).  Hmm.

3. There were two samples in ISO 1000 and 1600.  It said in the samples that
those are not based on the latest firmware.  A poster compared the ISO 1600
samples with his DS example and thought the K10D sample was better (note: it
would be very subjective, I suppose).
But all in all, the high ISO samples satisfied most visitors and many
apparently decided to buy K10Ds.

4. Pentax are also demonstrating the comparison with an unnamed (poster
chose not to mention it in that particular forum) competition's 10mp cameras
and the report said the gradation and the shadow detail was overwhelming
better for K10D.

5. Burst rate is 3.5fps, not 3.0.

All in all, they are saying that it is worth the waiting for another 45
days.

The fact that Pentax chose to display high ISO samples, plus their
comparison with a competition indicate their confidence in managing the high
ISO noise.  Gradation/shadow detail, according to posters, are visibly
excellent for K10D.

So far so good :-).

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Re: K10D 22 bit A/D conversion

2006-10-15 Thread Charles Robinson
On Oct 15, 2006, at 14:18, John Francis wrote:

>
> The closest I've seen is a 5L V8 shoe-horned into a Ford Fiesta
>

I believe the "Boss Hoss" motorcycle is a Chevy V-8 engine as well.   
Wrapping a motorcycle frame around a V-8 motor makes for an unwieldy  
ride, but a heck of a large power-to-weight ratio!

One example here: http://www.bosshoss.net/view_bike.asp?x=BHC3502

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Re: OT: joys and woes of new computer - couple of questions

2006-10-15 Thread graywolf
No, it does not, I have logins disabled with .NET Framework running.

No, I take that back, I have it setup for automatic logins to the base 
account, now that I think about it. Hum...?

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Joseph Tainter wrote:
> .NET framework comes with various things, very few of which are
> tied to XP Pro (which, unless you are on a large network, is
> pretty much indistinguishable from XP Home or XP Media Edition).
> I'm not sure now what I installed that required .NET framework
> on my (XP) notebook; I think it might have been Adobe Lightroom.
> 
> -
> 
> Okay, you've got my attention. I take it that .NET forces you to log in 
> even if otherwise you don't want or need to? Is that correct?
> 
> I go to great lengths to customize, eliminate, or avoid software 
> annoyances. How do I avoid this one? What software should I avoid?
> 
> So far both of my computers seem to be uninfected by .NET.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Joe
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Re: Thoughts on the digital format. Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-15 Thread Gonz


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> What I'm
> interested to see is how the manufacturers will sell the next gen
> cameras give than in all reality APS sized sensors are at 12MP IOW as
> dense as is practical WRT lens technology and minimum photo site size.
> Should be interesting.
> 

thats the 12million dollar question.

There might be some improvements to the hardware, i.e. faster and more 
accurate autofocus, wireless, etc.  But the only real direction I can 
see is software.  I.e. focus fix after the fact, software guided 
panoramic stitching in camera, automatic coordination with online album 
programs and web sites, etc.

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Re: OT - resubscribed

2006-10-15 Thread David Savage
On 10/16/06, Bob Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Oct 15, 2006, at 1:06 PM, Jostein Øksne wrote:
>
> > Hmm... Just looked in the archives.
> > What do you want to survey JCO for?
> > Does he have uncharted parts? :-)
>
> Undocumented features?
>

Unsupported parts.

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Re: OT: joys and woes of new computer - couple of questions

2006-10-15 Thread graywolf
Now there probably is the answer to my windows security window thing, I 
have some software installed that uses .NET Framework. Maybe I have been 
blaming the update thing unfairly. Nah, blaming microsoft is never unfair...

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John Francis wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 11:56:07AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> oooh tell me how to disable that log in thing!
>> I'm the only one using my machine, too
>>
>> I am starting to love some stuff :)
>> ann
> 
> It's not necessarily going to be that simple, depending on just
> what other software you have installed.  Anything that uses a
> package from Microsoft called ".NET Framework" can be a pain;
> the .NET Framework creates a separate non-privileged account
> (for security reasons).  Although Microsoft claim to have a
> fix for this, it's been my experience that their fix doesn't
> work.  You can hide the account (don't delete it, though!)
> by playing around in the registry, but that's not an approach
> I'd recommend for anyone not totally at ease with their system.
> 
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Re: OT: joys and woes of new computer - couple of questions

2006-10-15 Thread Joseph Tainter
.NET framework comes with various things, very few of which are
tied to XP Pro (which, unless you are on a large network, is
pretty much indistinguishable from XP Home or XP Media Edition).
I'm not sure now what I installed that required .NET framework
on my (XP) notebook; I think it might have been Adobe Lightroom.

-

Okay, you've got my attention. I take it that .NET forces you to log in 
even if otherwise you don't want or need to? Is that correct?

I go to great lengths to customize, eliminate, or avoid software 
annoyances. How do I avoid this one? What software should I avoid?

So far both of my computers seem to be uninfected by .NET.

Thanks,

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Re: K10D 22 bit A/D conversion

2006-10-15 Thread graywolf
I have met more clueless engineers than I have clueless morons. In fact 
I have had to work with a lot of them over the years. All of them 
thought they were absolutely correct about everything, only usually what 
they were so correct about did not work in the real world. As any tech 
who has to take what engineers design and make it work.

GEEZE! So many people on the list with a god complex these days with 
their pronouncements from on high.


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John Francis wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 11:07:02AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> In a message dated 10/15/2006 7:04:11 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>> The point I am trying to make here is I think the analysis of this that 
>> folks are making here on the list are way over simplified.
>> =
>> Ditto. I just posted on that before reading yours. In agreement.
> 
> Interesting, isn't it, that the claims of over-simplification
> come from people who (on their own admission) don't really
> understand all the complexities of the issue.
> 
> Yet these same people also feel free to argue against the conclusions
> of electrical engineers, or of software engineers with a background
> in numerical analysis, based on nothing more that a gut feeling.
> 
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report on Mini PDML LONDON

2006-10-15 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Ten Pentaxians came together at or near the appointed hour in Camden  
Town. We found a place to have a bit of lunch, enjoyed an hour or so  
of conversation, food and drink, and went off to meander the busy  
bazaar and streets with cameras in hand. Around 5pm, we went our  
separate ways happy and with a bunch of photos in our cameras ...

A great time! Truly enjoyed seeing everyone, discovering the Camden  
Locks lunacy with you all. Pictures will follow once I arrive home  
later this week.

Thanks for being there. :-)

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Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-15 Thread P. J. Alling
Short run vs Long run logic.  Right now DSLR's have brought about an SLR 
renaissance.  Pentax has benefited greatly from that.  It can't last 
forever, such things never do.  They have to keep their base, and losing 
the aperture simulator doesn't help.  They have to keep producing killer 
cameras or become a commodity, which is what was wrong with the P&S 
market.  Everything they do to make themselves just like the competition 
hurts in fact.

William Robb wrote:

>- Original Message - 
>From: "P. J. Alling"
>
>
>  
>
>>Pride might have something to do with it.  Management often doesn't 
>>want
>>to admit that they've made mistakes.  Especially since right now they
>>can't keep up with demand for the product as it is.
>>
>>
>
>If they can't make enough product to supply the demand, there isn't much 
>room to argue that they made a mistake.
>
>William Robb
>
>
>
>  
>


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RE: Way OT: Are there any golfers here?

2006-10-15 Thread Bob W
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Jens Bladt"
> Subject: Way OT: Are there any golfers here?
> 
> 
> > Man, I won a trial membership of a local club. I wonder if I
should 
> > pick up
> > golf. Poit and shoot, really. And no darkroom/computer work 
> later :-)
> > Perhaps a hole in one is easier than getting that perfect 
> sports shot:
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/268361406/
> > Darded noise :-(
> 

I'll try and break this gently: that isn't golf.

It's a great picture though.


> I find golf often puts me where nice pictures are.
> 
> William Robb 
> 

Really? Golf courses are horrible places where rich people dress like
chavs. 

I went on a corporate golf day a few weeks ago, having not played
since I was a teenager. Turned out I wasn't too bad at it (that is, I
managed to hit the ball more often than not). 

The secret is, it's not like squash or ping-pong where the ball moves
pretty fast and you have to move around pretty fast to hit it. In golf
the ball's not doing anything and not going anywhere, and you can take
your time before you hit it. It all seems rather one-sided and
unsporting if you ask me.

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Re: OT: Pelican 1510 as Carry on

2006-10-15 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 16/10/06, John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I've got a 1510 which I bought for precisiely that purpose
> (assuming I'm not taking the monster zoom; then I use my 1620).
> It does fit in the overhead bins (albeit with not much to spare),
> but not under the seats.  That can be a problem; the sizing box
> at the check-in lines matches the under-seat capacity.  On the
> few occasions I've flown with it, though, nobody has insisted
> on the more restrictive limits.

The UK 716 fits under seat, I bought it specifically for aircraft travel.

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Re: OT: joys and woes of new computer - couple of questions

2006-10-15 Thread P. J. Alling
Which doesn't surprise me.  .NET is Microsoft's de facto development 
platform.  It has many of the advantages and many of the disadvantages 
of JAVA.  You'd think that Microsoft had copied the idea from Sun.

John Francis wrote:

>On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 05:19:16PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>  
>
>>In a message dated 10/15/2006 12:56:31 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
>>
>>There's no reason Ann should have .Net Framework installed. That's usually XP 
>>Pro stuff, she has XP, and so she should be able to disable her logon pretty 
>>easily.
>>
>>
>
>Well-meaning advice, I'm sure, but still based on a faulty premise.
>
>.NET framework comes with various things, very few of which are
>tied to XP Pro (which, unless you are on a large network, is
>pretty much indistinguishable from XP Home or XP Media Edition).
>I'm not sure now what I installed that required .NET framework
>on my (XP) notebook; I think it might have been Adobe Lightroom.
>
>
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Re: K1D aperture simulator survey,

2006-10-15 Thread Mark Roberts
William Robb wrote:

>Have you seen a lot of complaining from a lot of people about it 
>recently?
>Generally, when people are really pissed about something, they find a 
>way to vent somewhere.
>The internet is a good place to vent ones spleen about stuff, but I 
>haven't seen a lot of whining on the various websites and news/mail 
>lists that I am on.

Yep. Even on the *Pentax-specific* discussion boards it's a non-issue. 
Outside this tiny enclave of the PDML (where only two or three people 
are adamant about it) no one gives a shit. Game over.


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Re: printing on metallic paper?

2006-10-15 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
One of the folks at the Pacific Art League nearby me has been  
printing onto thin, treated aluminum panels with an Epson 7600. His  
treatment for the panels, and printing methodology, is as yet his  
personal secret.

Godfrey

On Oct 15, 2006, at 11:58 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote:

> Does anybody print photos on metallic paper?
> If yes, - all pointers will be appreciated, in particular:
> 1. Places (print shops/photo labs) that do a good job at a  
> reasonable price.
> 2. Possible variations (paper type, printer type, ..?)
> 3. What to watch for?
> 4. Hints on preparing of the digital files for such metallic prints?
>
> What type of printers can be used to print on metallic paper?
> Ink Jets? Can laser printers be used?


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Re: printing on metallic paper?

2006-10-15 Thread Tom Lesser
www.mpix.com has a color paper they refer to as metallic.  I've never 
ordered metallic prints but the sample they sent is nice.  A 
well-prepared file using a calibrated monitor and sRGB always produces 
very nice results on their Crystal Archive Lustre paper  be sure to 
check the box that says "apply no corrections" (or something to that 
effect).

Tom Lesser
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On Oct 15, 2006, at 6:58 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote:

>
>
>
> Hello!
>
> Does anybody print photos on metallic paper?
> If yes, - all pointers will be appreciated, in particular:
> 1. Places (print shops/photo labs) that do a good job at a reasonable 
> price.
> 2. Possible variations (paper type, printer type, ..?)
> 3. What to watch for?
> 4. Hints on preparing of the digital files for such metallic prints?
>
> What type of printers can be used to print on metallic paper?
> Ink Jets? Can laser printers be used?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Igor
>
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Re: OT: joys and woes of new computer - couple of questions

2006-10-15 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 16/10/06, John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> .NET framework comes with various things, very few of which are
> tied to XP Pro (which, unless you are on a large network, is
> pretty much indistinguishable from XP Home or XP Media Edition).
> I'm not sure now what I installed that required .NET framework
> on my (XP) notebook; I think it might have been Adobe Lightroom.

Yes, the big surprise is which apps use .NET, even my video card
management tool under w2K uses the .NET framework, disabling .NET is
not great advice.

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Re: K10D 22 bit A/D conversion

2006-10-15 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Roberts" <
Subject: Re: K10D 22 bit A/D conversion


> William Robb wrote:
> 
>>Can you recommend any decent software for recording CDs from LPs?
>>Im primarily interested in listening to music in my truck, so that 
> needs 
>>to be accomodated in my software choices.
> 
> I think Audacity (open source) should accommodate basic recording.
> http://audacity.sourceforge.net/

Thanks Mark, I'll check it out.
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Re: New Monitor Time.

2006-10-15 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 16/10/06, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Joseph Tainter"
> Subject: Re: New Monitor Time.
>
>
> > Bill, October Shutterbug reviews one from EIZO. November Shutterbug
> > reviews one from LG.
>
> Thanks Joe.
> Are those reviews available online?

I used to sell and use Eizo CRT monitors in the past and if they've
managed to successfully maintain the excellent quality of their old
CRT monitors in their TFT range I'd be seeking one out to check if you
are really interested in a top quality. I've stumbled across reviews
of Eizo (Nanao) monitors in various sites, not surprisingly rarely do
they achieve anything but excellent test results.

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Re: Way OT: Are there any golfers here?

2006-10-15 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: "Jens Bladt"
Subject: Way OT: Are there any golfers here?


> Man, I won a trial membership of a local club. I wonder if I should 
> pick up
> golf. Poit and shoot, really. And no darkroom/computer work later :-)
> Perhaps a hole in one is easier than getting that perfect sports shot:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/268361406/
> Darded noise :-(

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Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-15 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: "J. C. O'Connell"
Subject: RE: The JCO survey


> Your reply here doesn't match your original
> Question/comment which was that maybe the aperture
> Cam was removed to allow larger rear elements.
> It wasn't because of the reasons I stated.
> Your response shown below mine makes no sense.
> Don't quote me and then switch subject.
> I want talking about FD at all and either were you
> In this case.

John, have you been binge drinking?
My comment was specifically about the EOS mount, as I thought yours was.
I've never said anything about rear element size, as it isn't relevant 
to the topic.

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Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-15 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: "J. C. O'Connell"
Subject: RE: The JCO survey


> They want to sucker people like you to buy
> Lenses all over again that they wouldn't
> Need otherwise. That's why.

The old lenses work just fine on the new cameras, and new lenses do 
things the old lenses won't do.
I'm not following your sucker reasoning.
I didn't buy any new lenses because of the aperture simulator being 
gone.
Frankly, I can't see any need to replace a lens for that reason.


>
> I already stated my opinion on this. I feel
> It was left out of the first digital bodies
> For cost reasons as it was basically a bottom
> Line model and they were going for the lowest
> Possible cost on the market. But now that
> They are starting to introduce a full line
> Of DSLRS and going into higher price points,
> There really is no excuse for implementing
> It because it isnt a super cheap bottom
> Line only model now.

You could have said that, in as reasonable tone, about a thousand posts 
ago and left it at that.


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Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-15 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: "J. C. O'Connell"
Subject: RE: The JCO survey


> Give up with this stupidity. Canon FD/EOS
> Change is not the same as PENTAX film SLR /DSLR
> Change because pentax did not change the mount
> In any way (except to ignore K/M aperture settings
> At a cost savings of about $5 in parts).
> Why cant you get that through your little head?
>

Canon likely could have engineered the EOS mount in such a way that an 
FD lens could have been mounted via a non optical adaptor for no extra 
cost at all.
Why can't you get that through your rather thick head?

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Re: New Monitor Time.

2006-10-15 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: "Joseph Tainter"
Subject: Re: New Monitor Time.



> Bill, go here;
>
> http://www.shutterbug.com/recentadditions/
>
> It looks like the older review is posted online. But the one from the
> current issue gives only the specs for the monitor, not the full
> article. That will probably post next month.
>
> Public library?

Thanks Joe.
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printing on metallic paper?

2006-10-15 Thread Igor Roshchin



Hello!

Does anybody print photos on metallic paper?  
If yes, - all pointers will be appreciated, in particular:
1. Places (print shops/photo labs) that do a good job at a reasonable price.
2. Possible variations (paper type, printer type, ..?)
3. What to watch for?
4. Hints on preparing of the digital files for such metallic prints?

What type of printers can be used to print on metallic paper? 
Ink Jets? Can laser printers be used?

Thank you,

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Re: K1D aperture simulator survey, part Deaux Now in Digest mode to save bandwidth.

2006-10-15 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: "J. C. O'Connell"
Subject: RE: K1D aperture simulator survey,part Deaux Now in Digest mode 
to save bandwidth.


> AE is AE, AE lock is AE lock. Look them up
> And you will learn they are VERY different.
> AE lock is virtually metered manual whereas
> AE is just that fully automatic all the time
> Continuously. You know the difference and
> Are just playing (or is ir real) dumb.

I know the difference.
Unlike you, I use a Pentax DSLR with K/M lenses from time to time.
The metering/exposure setting method is a hybrid manual/ aperture 
preferred automatic, but really, is more automatic than manual in use.
Argue semantics all you like.

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Re: K1D aperture simulator survey, part Deaux Now in Digest mode to save bandwidth.

2006-10-15 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: "J. C. O'Connell"
Subject: RE: K1D aperture simulator survey,part Deaux Now in Digest mode 
to save bandwidth.


> Just because you don't care
> Doesn't mean the number is small. I personally don't
> Think it's a small number of user because the Pentax K/M lenses are 
> out
> There in such massive numbers...

Most of those massive number of lenses are most likely 50mm, with a 
smattering of 28 and 135mm lenses.
I sold this stuff over the counter, I know what was bought.
These are focal lengths that can be replaced by a zoom that uses the 
camera's technology better.
Which is what people tend to do.
Face it, on new cameras, new lenses that can take advantage of the 
camera's advanced abilities are more desirable than dusty old antiques 
that are sitting buried in someones closet, presuming you even know they 
are there and can be used.

Have you seen a lot of complaining from a lot of people about it 
recently?
Generally, when people are really pissed about something, they find a 
way to vent somewhere.
The internet is a good place to vent ones spleen about stuff, but I 
haven't seen a lot of whining on the various websites and news/mail 
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Re: K10D 22 bit A/D conversion

2006-10-15 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: "J. C. O'Connell" 
Subject: RE: K10D 22 bit A/D conversion


>I forgot to mention, I record at 96KHz sampling rate with 24 bit
> Bit depth, process, and then downconvert at the very end to 44.1 KHz
> sampling rate And 16 bits which is the CD standard.

Thanks John. I was wondering if Goldwave was still around.

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Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-15 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: "P. J. Alling"


> Pride might have something to do with it.  Management often doesn't 
> want
> to admit that they've made mistakes.  Especially since right now they
> can't keep up with demand for the product as it is.

If they can't make enough product to supply the demand, there isn't much 
room to argue that they made a mistake.

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Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-15 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 16/10/06, Joseph Tainter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The two big items for me are ISO set and the drive button. I use both
> regularly. I would rather have them on the top of the camera than on the
> back, even if the implementation on the top is less than ideal (as the
> ISO set mechanism is on the D). Maybe it's just a matter of working
> styles. I use the top of the camera all the time. It is another step to
> have to look at the back when I am shooting in a hurry.
>
> Better yet would have been a dedicated ISO button on the K10D.

I agree but at least the Sv and Tav modes will provide some
alternative to having to dig though menus to change ISO, the drive
button absence will be a pain though.

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Re: K10D 22 bit A/D conversion

2006-10-15 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 16/10/06, J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Goldwave is what I use. Cost only $40.00
> Its really good. But you will need a 24 bit
> Soundcard if you want to do it the way I do it.

I use Goldwave too, it's good for basic stereo recording, level
adjustments, top and tailing etc.

http://www.goldwave.com/

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Re: K10D 22 bit A/D conversion

2006-10-15 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 16/10/06, J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I forgot to mention, I record at 96KHz sampling rate with 24 bit
> Bit depth, process, and then downconvert at the very end to 44.1 KHz
> sampling rate And 16 bits which is the CD standard.

Do you apply any particular dither type during the down conversion?

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Re: K10D 22 bit A/D conversion

2006-10-15 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 16/10/06, J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> False, you can scale any A/D and D/A
> To give any dynamic range you want
> Independent of bit depth. The number
> Of bits you use determines ONLY
> The number of steps. In the case
> Digital imaging for example, it just
> Means there will less shades of gray
> Between pure black and pure white
> As you lower the bit depth but you
> Still can record and regenerate any
> Dynamic range you want with lower
> Bit depth. Your assuming that the
> Encoding always has to be linear
> And it doesn't always have to be
> Linear.  For example a typical
> Digital phone company channel has the
> Equivalent of 14 linear dynamic
> Range but it's only 8 bits with
> Pre and post processing. There
> Are only 256 levels ( same as shades )
> But they are scaled to a different
> Dynaminc range via pre and post
> A/D D/A stages. Same with photography.

This is precisely what the pre-gamma transform in the Nucore processor
does, it de-linearises the 22 bit data to neatly fit into 12, 14 or 16
bits (depending upon the model) and it uses various forms of digital
gain control to assure that the sampled data makes full use of the
available bits in the RAW output.

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Re: K10D 22 bit A/D conversion

2006-10-15 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 16/10/06, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It occurred to me earlier that the big engine in a mini is, in some
> ways, a false analogy. On the other hand, it could be considered  an
> extremely apt analogy. Because the uitilization of more horsepower
> than one needs depends entirely on the supporting technology. With a
> multi-disc clutch that applies in stages, seventeen inch wide slicks
> and damped wheely bars, the 1000 horsepower or so could easily be put
> to the ground in a mini. Similarly, the utilization of more advanced
> electronics is dependent on the supporting hardware. Now I realize
> that Rob believes that sensor characteristics are a stopper, but I'm
> not sure his point of view is shared by all.

I should have said with otherwise standard running gear :-)

WRT the K10D, I arrive at my conclusion if I apply the basic
principles of signal gain analysis, that's an advantage I have in the
discussion I guess.

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Re: OT: joys and woes of new computer - couple of questions

2006-10-15 Thread John Francis
On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 05:19:16PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In a message dated 10/15/2006 12:56:31 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
> 
> There's no reason Ann should have .Net Framework installed. That's usually XP 
> Pro stuff, she has XP, and so she should be able to disable her logon pretty 
> easily.

Well-meaning advice, I'm sure, but still based on a faulty premise.

.NET framework comes with various things, very few of which are
tied to XP Pro (which, unless you are on a large network, is
pretty much indistinguishable from XP Home or XP Media Edition).
I'm not sure now what I installed that required .NET framework
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Re: K10D 22 bit A/D conversion

2006-10-15 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 16/10/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> John, I fail to believe that Pentax is adding the 22 A/D convertor just for
> PR reasons. Not when everyone talks about how much one feature can add to the
> cost of each camera produced. And how low the profit margin on each camera is.
> Ergo, that means they believe there will actually be some gain in adding it.
> Some quality gain. And/or they are doing it now in anticipation of some future
> advance.
>
> I just don't think Pentax is THAT cynical, that's all. Nothing done to date
> by Pentax (despite some vocal objectors) has convinced me that they are.

Call it cynical if you like but if the company supplying the chip used
an 18 bit precision ADC then that what they would be waving their flag
for, it's quite simple really.

> Also, as far as I know no one on this list is privy to the insides of the
> camera... yet.

Well neither has anyone actually confirmed the sensor manufacturer or
model but I'm 99.9% certain that I can send you to the appropriate
manufacturers prelim specification sheet.

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Re: OT: Pelican 1510 as Carry on

2006-10-15 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
The Pelican 1510 is just about the precise dimensions given me by  
United's travel assistance center as being their limit for carry-on  
luggage. I've had no problems using it as carry on luggage to date.

http://www.pelican.com/cases_detail.php?Case=1510

You don't say what kind of smaller case you want, but if you want  
another Pelican like case, check out their website.

Godfrey

On Oct 15, 2006, at 8:59 PM, Otis C. Wright, Jr. wrote:

> I am considering the Pelican 1510 for use as a carry-on case (for air
> travel) that will provide good protection if circumstances require the
> case to travel as checked luggage.   Contents will be laptop/laptop
> accessories/backup camera/camera accessories.  For the most part, I
> carry primary camera(s) in briefcase.
>
> Interested in comments from anyone who has used this case as a  
> carry-on
> or as checked luggage.  Primarily looking for problems you may have
> encountered  and alternate choices of about same size.
>
> Secondarily, also looking for a case maybe two thirds the size of the
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Re: Peso - Yuba River

2006-10-15 Thread Jack Davis
Brenden,
Isolating those components which contribute to the chosen scene, is the
point of all cropping.
Often a peek at more of the surrounding terrain completely destroys the
intended mood.
I, as mentioned eaelier, like your chosen crop.

Jack

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> That was mentioned before (that the top of the frame
> might lead the eye to nowhere). A fair criticism. I
> don't know, perhaps using the 55mm and horizontally
> would've produced more of a "landscape" but I was
> going for grabbing detail in the space. That's why I
> choose to use the 165mm instead.
> 
> One thing I find when I'm out and about is that the
> wheather dictates much of what I shoot. If I have an
> uninteresting sky I leave it out (as I did on this
> day).
> 
> -Brendan
> 
> --- William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > 
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "Brendan MacRae"
> > Subject: Peso - Yuba River
> > 
> > 
> > > Here's one from a few weeks back. Taken on the
> > Yuba
> > > river here in the beautiful nothern California
> > Gold
> > 
> > > http://www.members.aol.com/figgaro/yuba.jpg
> > >
> > > Comments encouraged.
> > 
> > I have a real problem with vertical landscapes. I
> > just don't like em.
> > Great preface, I know.
> > The very back of the picture appeaers to be slightly
> > out of depth of 
> > field. This is why I don't like the 6x7 as a
> > landscape camera.
> > This is the type of picture I would take
> > (horizontally, more than 
> > likely), and the 6x7 makes me mental.
> > A view camera is really a better machine for this
> > sort of thing.
> > I'd consider cropping the bottom off and bringing it
> > to square.
> > 
> > William Robb 
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Re: OT - resubscribed

2006-10-15 Thread Bob Shell

On Oct 15, 2006, at 1:06 PM, Jostein Øksne wrote:

> Hmm... Just looked in the archives.
> What do you want to survey JCO for?
> Does he have uncharted parts? :-)

Undocumented features?

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Re: K10D 22 bit A/D conversion

2006-10-15 Thread K.Takeshita
On 10/15/06 5:13 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> John, I fail to believe that Pentax is adding the 22 A/D convertor just for
> PR reasons. Not when everyone talks about how much one feature can add to the
> cost of each camera produced.

LOL

> Some quality gain. And/or they are doing it now in anticipation of some future
> advance.

Yes, I saw an article that this is partly in anticipation for K1D as well.

> I just don't think Pentax is THAT cynical, that's all. Nothing done to date
> by Pentax (despite some vocal objectors) has convinced me that they are.
> 
> Also, as far as I know no one on this list is privy to the insides of the
> camera... yet.

Of all the technical arguments exchanged so far, this is the most sensible
non-technical opinion.  With due respect for all these knowledgeable people
in this list, which BTW is the tremendous asset, I have to agree with Marnie
that Pentax is not THAT cynical.  It seems to me that there are some people
who do not like to admit that Pentax did something remarkable.

Not pretending I am an expert in this area, and I am not, I have to point
out that the illustration I posted was the part of their K10D site;

http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/ja/35mm/k10d/feature.html

Yes, you can say it is their propaganda site, as it should be, but Pentax
took sufficient space to emphasize the merits of the 22bit A/D converter.
Illustration was to convey the principle of the advantage.
Unlike other marketing savvy competitions, Pentax are fairly honest and
sometimes clumsy bunch of people, often not advertising things others will
make a big deal out of, such as the inclusion of ED glasses without even
mentioning it :-).

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Re: New Monitor Time.

2006-10-15 Thread Joseph Tainter
 > Bill, October Shutterbug reviews one from EIZO. November Shutterbug
 > reviews one from LG.

Thanks Joe.
Are those reviews available online?

William Robb

-

Bill, go here;

http://www.shutterbug.com/recentadditions/

It looks like the older review is posted online. But the one from the 
current issue gives only the specs for the monitor, not the full 
article. That will probably post next month.

Public library?

Joe

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Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-15 Thread Joseph Tainter
Apart from the drive mode I don't see where you lose a knob/button
going from a D to a K10D (at least those who were well thought of).
Tell me.

-

As I wrote, the issues for me are setting the ISO and drive modes. I am 
not looking forward to having to set the ISO on the K10D by going 
through the function menu. In part, I prefer to work at the top of the 
camera, rather than hving to go to the back. Setting ISO through the 
function menu will take more steps than is the case with the D. And in 
bright light, setting ISO through the rear lcd will be difficult. Guess 
what? I live and work in places with bright light.

So now someone will want to post that I shouldn't be bothered by this 
change, it really is very easy to set ISO through the function menu. 
Save it, please. I have thought this through, and know what works for 
me. Whatever works for you, that's fine.

A better solution would be a separate button to set ISO.

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Re: Protecting Lens Mount Contacts

2006-10-15 Thread kwaller
Once I thought I was wrong, but I was mistaken.

Kenneth Waller

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From: "J. C. O'Connell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Protecting Lens Mount Contacts


>I wasn't attempting to answer a question. I was
> Correcting a mistake.
> jco
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> William Robb
> Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 3:01 PM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: Protecting Lens Mount Contacts
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "J. C. O'Connell" 
> Subject: RE: Protecting Lens Mount Contacts
> 
> 
>> Actually were were discussing operating M42 BODIES
>> And LENSES stopped down. It was off-topic and had
>> Nothing to do with using M42 lenses on the current
>> DSLRs which would be another matter altogether because
>> The current DSLRs ( or all PK bodies for that matter), do
>> Not support auto apeture function with M42 lenses mounted
>> Via adapter.
> 
>> 
> 
> Great answer, but it completely ignored the question.
> 
> William Robb
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Re: OT: joys and woes of new computer - couple of questions

2006-10-15 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/15/2006 12:56:31 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 11:56:07AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> oooh tell me how to disable that log in thing!
> I'm the only one using my machine, too
> 
> I am starting to love some stuff :)
> ann

It's not necessarily going to be that simple, depending on just
what other software you have installed.  Anything that uses a
package from Microsoft called ".NET Framework" can be a pain;
the .NET Framework creates a separate non-privileged account
(for security reasons).  Although Microsoft claim to have a
fix for this, it's been my experience that their fix doesn't
work.  You can hide the account (don't delete it, though!)
by playing around in the registry, but that's not an approach
I'd recommend for anyone not totally at ease with their system.
===
There's no reason Ann should have .Net Framework installed. That's usually XP 
Pro stuff, she has XP, and so she should be able to disable her logon pretty 
easily.

But, yes, on the machine I have it on, I have to leave their stupid account 
on, because it is almost impossible to get rid of. Or getting rid of messes 
things up. On my laptop I don't have it, so disabling user logon was a snap.

Marnie aka Doe 

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Re: PESO - The King

2006-10-15 Thread Bruce Dayton
Thanks - don't know how big I can print it yet, but I'll certainly
play around with a cropping as you suggested.  Thanks for your
comments and suggestions.

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Sunday, October 15, 2006, 8:34:29 AM, you wrote:

SB> Good Morning, Bruce ...

SB> I like this photo quite a bit.  I usually don't like the artificiality
SB> associated with zoo pics, but here you were able to get something that
SB> seems to "remove" the zoo environment from the photo.  That you got Leo
SB> looking right at you is very nice.

SB> IMO the photo could be quite a bit stronger by cropping some from the L & R
SB> sides.  I did a 4:5 ratio and, to my eye, Leo looks a lot stronger yet
SB> nothing of importance was lost.

SB> I'd really like to see what this looks like in a larger print with a
SB> tighter crop and greater emphasis on the lion's visage.  How large a print
SB> could you make using a 4:5 ratio without loosing any sharpness or detail?
SB> Can you get a 12x15 out of it?

SB> Shel



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>> From: Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>> Date: 10/15/2006 8:11:29 AM
>> Subject: PESO - The King
>>
>> Taken in the San Francisco Zoo.  I would hope to someday be able to go
>> to Africa and see these in the wild.
>>
>> Pentax *istD, Sigma 100-300/4 @ 300mm, monopod
>> ISO 200, 1/350 sec @ f/4.0
>>
>> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/sfzoo_0232.htm
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Re: K10D 22 bit A/D conversion

2006-10-15 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/15/2006 12:37:31 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Yet these same people also feel free to argue against the conclusions
of electrical engineers, or of software engineers with a background
in numerical analysis, based on nothing more that a gut feeling.
===
John, I fail to believe that Pentax is adding the 22 A/D convertor just for 
PR reasons. Not when everyone talks about how much one feature can add to the 
cost of each camera produced. And how low the profit margin on each camera is. 
Ergo, that means they believe there will actually be some gain in adding it. 
Some quality gain. And/or they are doing it now in anticipation of some future 
advance.

I just don't think Pentax is THAT cynical, that's all. Nothing done to date 
by Pentax (despite some vocal objectors) has convinced me that they are. 

Also, as far as I know no one on this list is privy to the insides of the 
camera... yet.

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Re: OT - resubscribed

2006-10-15 Thread Jostein Øksne
Tim Øsleby wrote:
> Hei. Had as good time?

Yes. Just what I needed. :-)

Jostein

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