Re: OT: My Annoying Birthday

[David Mann]

On Feb 26, 2007, at 9:14 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

> A bunch of smooshed-car photos, none taken with a Pentax (because
> all my Pentax cameras use film and I haven't gotten to the lab yet
> with the film I shot -- these were all done with my widdle P&S
> digital), from the hit-and-run accident involving my car and three
> other parked cars twenty minutes before the start of my birthday.
>
> 

Makes me feel less bad about scratching my bike in a stupid crash on  
Saturday.

Being a bit too used to my commuting bike (with rim-brakes), I  
grabbed the brake lever a bit harder than I should have.  That taught  
me how much stopping power a big disc brake has.  The wheel locked  
instantly and the road was jumping up at me before I knew what had  
happened.

Lucky it was the rear brake or I'd have literally eaten concrete.   
The front brake is bigger and would have thrown me straight over the  
bars.  Instead my knee is looking pretty battered and the bruising  
has really come out today.  I was able to ride into town yesterday  
but today I can barely walk and I'm upset that I probably won't be  
doing any riding for a week or more.

One lesson I'd like to pass on is that when riding you should always  
wear good gloves.  I'm amazed that mine were so strong that they  
didn't show the slightest damage after being driven quite hard  
straight into the road surface.  I really hate injuring my hands as  
the wounds/dressings keep getting in the way of everything.  Those  
gloves were a birthday present so I expressed appropriate amounts of  
gratitude :)

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Re: PESO -- Theater Noir

[David Mann]

On Feb 26, 2007, at 8:50 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:

> Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend  
> lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot.

Oh no, not the science humour!

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Re: Forgive my ignorance, but what use is Lightroom?

[David Mann]

On Feb 26, 2007, at 12:10 PM, Bob W wrote:

> So a
> search for pictures with the key word Starts With 'Cat' finds all my
> cat photos, but also all my cattle photos, catastrophic photos,
> catatonia photos and catalytic converter photos.

Perhaps we could make "catalytic converters" a PUG theme.

[/anorak]

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Re: PESO: Photo Shoot Yesterday

[David Mann]

On Feb 26, 2007, at 9:13 AM, Walter Hamler wrote:

> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/Cormorantweb.jpg

Cormorants don't do much for me but it's certainly not a bad photo.   
Nice detail in the feathers.

> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/FoggySunriseweb.jpg

This one is spectacularly good.

> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/Jaguarweb.jpg

I can't say no to kitties.  I really must finish off my film with the  
tiger photos.

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Re: Forgive my ignorance, but what use is Lightroom?

[David Mann]

On Feb 26, 2007, at 12:31 PM, Bob W wrote:

> Having burbled all that, I forgot the point. Which is, does anyone
> know of a downloadable thesaurus? I would like to import it into
> Lightbox, and save myself the trouble of having to think up zillions
> of synonyms whenever I want to add a new keyword.

A certain operating system comes with a thesaurus built in.

Unfortunately its dictionary and its spell-checker sometimes disagree.

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Re: PESO - Kyoto

[David Mann]

On Feb 26, 2007, at 3:18 PM, Eric Featherstone wrote:

> Taken on evening walk in a Kyoto backstreet somewhere between
> Kiyomizu-dera and Yasaka-jinja:
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5644387

This one shouts "medium format".  I'm really drawn in to inspect the  
finer details in the background.

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Re: PESO - Boris, Week 7

[David Mann]

On Feb 26, 2007, at 8:56 AM, Kenneth Waller wrote:

> Boris, I'll be brutally frank here
>
>    you really should put some liquid in that bottle, either  
> milk, juice
> or water.

I'll just be brutal.  I have some Bulleit Bourbon you could use }:)

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Re: PESO - For Knarf

[David Mann]

On Feb 26, 2007, at 7:14 AM, Adam Maas wrote:

> http://flickr.com/photos/mawz/402230206/

I really like it.

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Re: PESO - Kyoto

[Jim King]

Eric Featherstone wrote on Sun, 25 Feb 2007 18:31:48 -0800

> Taken on evening walk in a Kyoto backstreet somewhere between
> Kiyomizu-dera and Yasaka-jinja:
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5644387
>
> Comments welcome. I did wonder about cropping the left hand side upto
> the banner to remove that restaurant sign, and possibly cropping the
> right hand side a bit too.

Actually, I see two images in this photo - one is a vertical crop of  
the left side and the other is a horizontal crop of the right side.  
Both would show the end of the street.

The exposure could be adjusted independently for each, if the  
original had been shot in digital.

Regards, Jim

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Re: PESO - Kyoto

[Bong Manayon]

And you used an MX! :-)

Tough picture to take, considering the uneven lighting.  I wouldn't
crop anything and leave well as it is.  Photo editing software can
probably darken the left side and lighten to pull out some details in
the darker side.

What film & lens did you use?

On 2/26/07, Eric Featherstone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Taken on evening walk in a Kyoto backstreet somewhere between
> Kiyomizu-dera and Yasaka-jinja:
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5644387
>
> Comments welcome. I did wonder about cropping the left hand side upto
> the banner to remove that restaurant sign, and possibly cropping the
> right hand side a bit too.
>
> Cheers,
> Eric.
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Re: PESO - Retired

[Paul Sorenson]

Thanks for the comment, Dave.

The museum runs rides during the summer on a spur from North Freedom, 
south about 10 miles to an area of several iron mines which were active 
in the early 1900's.  They use a diesel locomotive right now, but expect 
to be back under steam within the next year.  They currently have three 
steam locos slated for restoration.

http://www.midcontinent.org/

-P


David J Brooks wrote:
> Great shot. Great conversion to.
> 
> Oh, did i tell you, i like trains.:-)
> 
> Dave Brooks
> 
> On 2/25/07, Paul Sorenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> The Mid-Continent Railway Museum is in the unlikely small town of North
>> Freedom, WI.  Spent some time there on a sunny fall day in early
>> November and snapped this along with others.
>>
>> http://home.earthlink.net/~allaround6/data/quicksnap.htm
>>
>> Pentax DS2, Tamron 28-200 at 28mm.
>> 1/60, f:6.3
>> Converted with Fotomatic BW Plus w/blue filter
>> Brown toning added w/Photo-Plugins B/W Conversion
>>
>> Comments, pro or con accepted
>>
>> -P
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Re: Pentax digital medium format

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Cotty"
Subject: Re: Pentax digital medium format



> Sure, the price point will be important, but to business buyers,
> price is less of an issue.
>

I keep hearing this, but my experience in the world of professional 
photography is that it is wrong.
There are some pro boys out there who don't need to justify equipment cost, 
but they are pretty rare.
Most pros have a harder time justifying equipment purchases than amateurs.

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Re: Q: OSX/intel: Photoshop CS2 or wait for CS3?

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

:-)

Watch a few of the tutorial videos available on line

Michael Tapes:
http://pictureflow.fileburst.com/_Tutorials/Lightroom_4/01/index.html

Photoshop User:
http://www.photoshopuser.com/lightroom/index.html

and at Adobe ...
http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshoplightroom/

The more you know the better it gets.

G

(Whenever I look back over the work I did from 2002-2004, never mind  
the 35 years before that in film, I know I want to go back to the  
originals and re-work them. I've learned a lot in the past two  
years...!)


On Feb 25, 2007, at 9:52 PM, Jon Paul Schelter wrote:

> I just ran through processing one photo with Lightroom - it's
> brilliant!  (Lightroom that is, not my photo)  Looking back over some
> of the PS work I've done, I can think of maybe 5 photos out of ~3000
> for which I've used more features than Lightroom provides.  And for
> those photos, I was mostly playing, (e.g. http://forksandhope.com/
> images/Nov06/IMGP4480-m-desat.jpg *) and I'm not really proficient
> enough with photoshop to pull off what I was trying to do.   I bet
> Lightroom would have made my processing much easier and faster.
>
> I think I'll probably end up buying Lightroom and putting off the
> Photoshop purchase at least until CS3 is out.
>
> take care,
>
> JP
>
>
> * Damn. I really shouldn't look back over my old photos - they just
> make me want to spend money on kit (K10D, 60-250 f/4 DA*.. damn you
> pentax!) and go back to Africa to get all those missed and botched
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Re: Q: OSX/intel: Photoshop CS2 or wait for CS3?

[Jon Paul Schelter]

On 26-Feb-07, at 12:26 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

> If I were starting now, I'd download Lightroom on the free trial and
> work with it for a while. Lightroom has enough editing (cropping,
> rotation, spotting, tonal adjustment, color balancing, sharpening,
> etc) that it does about 95% of what I used to do in the combination
> of PS CS2 + Bridge + Camera Raw.

I just ran through processing one photo with Lightroom - it's  
brilliant!  (Lightroom that is, not my photo)  Looking back over some  
of the PS work I've done, I can think of maybe 5 photos out of ~3000  
for which I've used more features than Lightroom provides.  And for  
those photos, I was mostly playing, (e.g. http://forksandhope.com/ 
images/Nov06/IMGP4480-m-desat.jpg *) and I'm not really proficient  
enough with photoshop to pull off what I was trying to do.   I bet  
Lightroom would have made my processing much easier and faster.

I think I'll probably end up buying Lightroom and putting off the  
Photoshop purchase at least until CS3 is out.

take care,

JP


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Re: PESO - Retired

[Paul Sorenson]

Thanks, Mike.

-P

Mike Hamilton wrote:
>>> Paul Sorenson wrote:
 The Mid-Continent Railway Museum is in the unlikely small town of North
 Freedom, WI.  Spent some time there on a sunny fall day in early
 November and snapped this along with others.

 http://home.earthlink.net/~allaround6/data/quicksnap.htm

 Pentax DS2, Tamron 28-200 at 28mm.
 1/60, f:6.3
 Converted with Fotomatic BW Plus w/blue filter
 Brown toning added w/Photo-Plugins B/W Conversion

 Comments, pro or con accepted
> 
> 
> Great tones, Paul.  Excellent photo.
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Re: Ah ... a new lens

[Boris Liberman]

Godfrey, I do enjoy our conversation about this lens. I've just clicked 
on some button (I am still quite a kludge in LR 1.0 that I downloaded 
for a trial) and the statistics of which lenses I used how many times 
showed.

So, for roughly 9,000 images I shot with *istD and K10D the distribution 
is as follows:

77 lim - 1079
43 lim - 607
31 lim - 579
Tamron 28-75/2.8 - 791

I am fascinated, 'cause I never thought of my shooting habits in these 
terms...

Anyway, it appears that limited lenses get their limited use ;-).

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> Here's a rather extreme demonstration of flare with the FA31:
> 
>http://homepage.mac.com/godders/FA31-flare.jpg

Extreme indeed.

> A good lens hood would likely eliminate it for the DSLR, if you could  
> fit a good lens hood with that fixed hood. Grr.

I totally agree.

> For me, the 43 Limited is going to replace the 35/2 and 50/1.4 ... it  
> slots in between the 28 and 70 perfectly. The kit I've assembled  now  
> is very complete, for my purposes: DA14, DA21, FA28, FA43, DA70 and  
> the DA50-200. All (except the 14) very compact and light, just the  
> right FoV coverage, very high image quality throughout. The graph of  
> FoV vs FL is pretty nice:
> 
>http://homepage.mac.com/godders/FoVs-Pentax-DSLR.jpg

This is what 43 limited did to me. I sold 35/2.8 and basically 
deprecated 50/1.7. It is there mostly because of sentimental value. 
After all, FA 50/1.7 was my first prime lens that taught me great many 
things about photography.

> I still use the FA20-35 too ... it's such a good wide-normal zoom for  
> when I want to carry just one lens.

For me it is Tamron 28-75/2.8. But I hear what you're saying ;-).

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Re: PESO - Kyoto

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Wow, flashback ... I spent a long weekend in Kyoto about a decade and  
a half ago and had a room in a little hotel right near this site. I  
seem to recall there was a small river or stream behind the hotel.  
Kiyomizu-dera was one of my favorite places to visit while I was there.

Neat shot. I wouldn't crop much but the left side is too hot and  
needs to be pushed down a bit to level things out.

Godfrey

On Feb 25, 2007, at 6:18 PM, Eric Featherstone wrote:

> Taken on evening walk in a Kyoto backstreet somewhere between
> Kiyomizu-dera and Yasaka-jinja:
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5644387
>
> Comments welcome. I did wonder about cropping the left hand side upto
> the banner to remove that restaurant sign, and possibly cropping the
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Re: Q: OSX/intel: Photoshop CS2 or wait for CS3?

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Feb 25, 2007, at 8:12 PM, Jon Paul Schelter wrote:
> I guess step 1 is to finally get that memory upgrade from the stock
> 512M. :)
>
> I've tried several times to download and install CS2, and maybe  
> it's the
> memory thing, but I always get install errors, and CS2 is unusable.

Yes, get RAM in that box! 2G minimum ... I recommend pumping it full  
right to the limit. More RAM helps. I wouldn't dream of running CS2  
on an Apple Intel system with less than 2G of RAM.

If I were starting now, I'd download Lightroom on the free trial and  
work with it for a while. Lightroom has enough editing (cropping,  
rotation, spotting, tonal adjustment, color balancing, sharpening,  
etc) that it does about 95% of what I used to do in the combination  
of PS CS2 + Bridge + Camera Raw. It's meant to work with Photoshop  
when you need higher level editing (layers, selections, compositing,  
etc). You might find it does everything you need and until April 30  
it's $199 (US Pricing). Then I'd wait for CS3.

Now that Lightroom has been released, I haven't touched Bridge or  
Camera Raw much, and the amount that I use Photoshop has gone down  
enormously.

Godfrey


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Re: How many K10s do we have now? a poll.

[P. J. Alling]

Heinz 57 varieties were canned condiments which includes Ketchup, 
Pickles and other things,  I'm surprised that it's that obscure.

John Celio wrote:
 The total today is now at 56 units.

 
>>> Count me as 57, aka ketchup. ;)
>>>   
>> I thought 57 was pickles.
>> 
>
> Well, it was a reference to Heinz, which is synonymous with ketchup, in my 
> mind.
>
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RE: How many K10s do we have now? a poll.

[J. C. O'Connell]

NOT Heinz "57" which is certainly not a ketchup, its
actually a well known steak sauce instead.
jco

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>>> The total today is now at 56 units.
>>>
>>
>> Count me as 57, aka ketchup. ;)
>
>I thought 57 was pickles.

Well, it was a reference to Heinz, which is synonymous with ketchup, in
my 
mind.

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Re: Semi-OT: Vivitar 258HV

[Bruce Dayton]

I shot about 400 frames with it.  It wasn't totally dead, but the
recycle time had really dropped down.  I had topped it off for about
10 hours on the charger before the wedding.  I also re-celled it about
2 years ago.

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Sunday, February 25, 2007, 5:10:13 AM, you wrote:

PS> How many frames did you shoot with the Battery 2. I generally use mine
PS> the same way -- with a lumiquest bounce -- and I've never drained it
PS> completely. But I haven't shot a full wedding in decades. I think my
PS> most ambitious outing with flash has been around 300 frames. I'm also
PS> very careful to keep the battery conditioned. If I don't use it for a
PS> couple weeks, I put it on charge overnight anyway. It's a lead acid
PS> battery, so it's like a car battery. It needs frequent charging. Of
PS> course, any lead acid battery loses capacity over time.
PS> Paul
PS> On Feb 25, 2007, at 4:11 AM, Bruce Dayton wrote:

>> I just got back from shooting a wedding tonight and pretty much 
>> drained my
>> battery 2 with the AF400T on Auto-Red.  I use a Lumiquest Ultra Soft
>> Bounce that sucks up about 2 1/2- 3 stops of light, but does a very
>> good job of diffusing.  But it put a big drain on the battery with
>> that much flash punch.  Right now I am considering another battery 2
>> to have as a spare.  Tonight I could have used it.
>>
>> Still thinking about the 540FGZ.
>>
>> -- 
>> Bruce
>>
>>
>> Saturday, February 24, 2007, 10:03:34 AM, you wrote:
>>
>> PS> The recycle time for the 540 FGZ is fairly good with fresh 
>> batteries,
>> PS> and since the Nimh maintain a good charge for quite a while that
>> PS> works okay. I tried it with AAs, and that was a no go. I'm probably
>> PS> going to get the Pentax Power Pack III. Although right now, if I
>> had
>> PS> to shoot another wedding without the power pack, I'd probably go
>> with
>> PS> the AF 400T and the battery 2. There's nothing wrong with that
>> PS> combination, and while I can attest that the 540 FGZ provides good
>> PS> exposures, the AF 400T on auto does rather well.
>> PS> Paul
>> PS> On Feb 24, 2007, at 12:40 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote:
>>
 That is one big difference - I usually have to shoot some 
 formal/posed
 shots where they are aware of the camera.  Sometimes I can use my
 studio lights, but sometimes I have to use flash.

 I'm certainly considering picking up a 540FGZ and trying it out.  I
 will need faster recycle times, however.

 -- 
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 Saturday, February 24, 2007, 2:35:03 AM, you wrote:

 PS> I've been using the Pentax 540 FGZP-TTL flash  on the K10D. I
 shot a
 PS> wedding (about 300 frames) without a single blink. I also shot
 that
 PS> exercise class the other night, again without blinks. Exposures
 were
 PS> good. However, I shoot mostly candids and rarely tell anyone to
 look
 PS> at the camera.
 PS> Paul
 PS> On Feb 24, 2007, at 2:00 AM, Bruce Dayton wrote:

>> My issue with the pre-flash technique is that people who tend to
>> blink
>> can be a real problem.  The pre-flash starts them into the blink
>> and
>> you end up with shots with their eyes not fully open.  I believe
>> all
>> brands have the same problem.
>>
>> For weddings I was shooting TTL with the *istD and now shooting
>> Auto
>> on the flash with the K10D - using my AF400T's for the time
>> being.  I
>> use the AF360FGZ's during the day for daylight fill flash.
>>
>> -- 
>> Bruce
>>
>>
>> Friday, February 23, 2007, 7:46:31 PM, you wrote:
>>
>> NW> For you (other) manual camera fans who might not have seen this
>> yet, I
>> NW> thought I'd mention that Vivitar has reintroduced their 285HV
>> flash
>> NW> units. They are selling brand new for just under $100
>> currently. And
>> NW> they have trigger voltages of less than 6 volts, which means
>> they are
>> NW> safe to use on modern cameras too! Just got mine in the mail
>> the other
>> NW> day. In fact, I was so fed up with Canon's crazy ETTL I sold my
>> $300
>> NW> Canon unit the day I heard the 285s were back!
>>
>> NW> And to put a vaguely Pentax spin on this post ... I'm curious
>> if
>> NW> Pentax's PTTL system is any good? A quick scan through the
>> archives
>> NW> found at least one person who wasn't so thrilled. I'd like to
>> hear
>> NW> more. Thanks!
>>
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>> NW> http://blog.phojonick.com/
>> NW> http://www.phojonick.com/
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Re: How many K10s do we have now? a poll.

[John Celio]

>>> The total today is now at 56 units.
>>>
>>
>> Count me as 57, aka ketchup. ;)
>
>I thought 57 was pickles.

Well, it was a reference to Heinz, which is synonymous with ketchup, in my 
mind.

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Re: How many K10s do we have now? a poll.

[P. J. Alling]

I thought 57 was pickles.

John Celio wrote:
>> The total today is now at 56 units.
>> 
>
> Count me as 57, aka ketchup. ;)
>
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Re: PESO - Kyoto

[Rick Womer]

I really like this shot.

I see what you mean about the cropping...but the left
side contains lots of interesting material, too.  The
problem is that it is overexposed compared to the rest
of the photo.  Correcting that somehow (I am not good
enough with Photoshop to know how) would help a lot.

Rick

--- Eric Featherstone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Taken on evening walk in a Kyoto backstreet
> somewhere between
> Kiyomizu-dera and Yasaka-jinja:
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5644387
> 
> Comments welcome. I did wonder about cropping the
> left hand side upto
> the banner to remove that restaurant sign, and
> possibly cropping the
> right hand side a bit too.
> 
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Re: PESO - Sydney Harbour Pano

[Christian]

Thanks, Cot!

Christian

Cotty wrote:
> On 24/2/07, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
>> Check out:
>> http://photography2.skofteland.net:8080/displayimage.php?pos=-68
>> (click the thumbnail for a bigger image  - warning 400kb)
> 
> 
> VERY nice Christian. I like the subtle detail - the ship just coming
> under the bridge. Nice light - very well done.
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Re: PESO: Photo Shoot Yesterday

[Christian]

Walter Hamler wrote:
> "That's a great shot of the bird, Walter, but my reputation is still 
> intact...  It's not a cormorant it's an anhinga"
> 
> Thanks Christian. I guess we learn something everyday!
> I am not an ardent birder and we have always called them cormorants around 
> here, but I am sure there are folks who know the difference.
> I shot some pics several years ago of a fight between a Blue Heron and a 
> Cormorant (It had the hooked bill). I have to give the Cormorant his due, as 
> he stood his ground against a much larger bird and won. At least the Heron 
> was the one who retreated and went under a tree branch and sulked!
> 
> Walt 
> 
> 

This is a cormorant:
http://photography2.skofteland.net:8080/albums/birds/cormorant_IMGP1596final.jpg

Sorry, Cotty, I had to do it... :-)

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Re: PESO - Lazy Afternoon II

[Russell Kerstetter]

Thanks for the imput Christian.  I should have know better, but I
liked the location of the flower in the second one which distracted me
from the distracting background  :)

russ

On 2/25/07, Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Cotty wrote:
> > On 24/2/07, Russell Kerstetter, discombobulated, unleashed:
> >
> >> I couldn't decide between two, so I posted both!  Maybe you can help.
> >>
> >> http://www.avocadohead.com/piclinks/IMGP2545.html
> >>
> >> http://www.avocadohead.com/piclinks/IMGP2548.html
> >
> >
> > 2545.
> >
>
> I agree; it's the better of the two.
>
> Christian
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Re: Q: OSX/intel: Photoshop CS2 or wait for CS3?

[Jon Paul Schelter]

Thanks Godfrey, I knew you'd have a clear answer for me.

I guess step 1 is to finally get that memory upgrade from the stock  
512M. :)

I've tried several times to download and install CS2, and maybe it's the
memory thing, but I always get install errors, and CS2 is unusable.

I've grabbed the CS3 beta, and it worked well, even with only 512M.  Of
course, since I don't have a CS2 license, I could only use it for a  
couple days. :(

Does Lightroom have basic editing capabilities? (cropping, levels, etc)
Could I use that 30 day trial to get some photos processed while I  
wait for CS3?

Sadly, the PS7 license isn't mine, it's an unused work license which  
I was
borrowing.  I'll have to purchase CS3 outright.

thanks again,
jp

On 25-Feb-07, at 10:29 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

> - PS CS2 is not a Universal binary, that will be PS CS3, so PS CS2 on
> the MacBook Pro runs a little slower than it does on comparable speed
> PowerBook G4 systems. It's quite usable nonetheless (be sure you put
> in 2G RAM at least), it runs at about the speed of a 1.2Ghz G4 single
> processor system.
>
> - It's difficult to do anything but conjecture about when PS CS3 will
> release for sure, but I think the current public beta (available from
> http://labs.adobe.com) will work until June when the license runs
> out. Either they'll release another public beta or the real thing
> around then. You need a Mac OS X Photoshop CS2 license to download
> and use PS CS3 beta (which runs very well already, btw).
>
> - Version upgrades normally cost about $170 from Adobe. To obtain the
> Mac OS X version of PS CS2 if you have a legal copy of Photoshop 7
> for Windows, you'll need an OS platform transfer and upgrade, and it
> should cost you that same $170. CS3 will cost another $170.
>
> So... If you're impatient or have work to do, buy the CS2 Mac OS X
> upgrade and get going. If your needs are lighter, you can download
> the evaluation copy and get 30 days free trial use ... I don't think
> CS3 will be available in 30 days, but it's not a bad risk as you can
> simply buy the upgrade at the end when the trial runs out. You won't
> be able to get CS3 beta unless you get the CS2 license, however.
>
> Photoshop is essential enough to me that it would be worth the money
> to upgrade now ...
>
> Godfrey
>
>
> On Feb 25, 2007, at 6:39 PM, Jon Paul Schelter wrote:
>
>> I've a question or two for any Mac-heads out there..
>>
>> I just switched from a PC to a Mac (MacBook Pro 2GHz)  I'm still
>> editing on my PC with PS7, but I'll be selling the PC soon.
>>
>> Does it make sense right now to buy CS2 for an intel Mac, or should I
>> wait for CS3?
>>
>> I didn't think CS2 was a universal app - am I wrong?
>> Does Adobe usually have a reasonable upgrade policy? - say if I were
>> to buy CS2 shortly before CS3 came out, could I upgrade for free or a
>> small fee?
>>
>> Thanks for any advice you can offer.
>>
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Re: PESO - Sydney Harbour Pano

[Christian]

Peter Lacus wrote:
> Christian,
> 
>> I shot a lot of frames on last year's Oz trip in the hopes of stitching 
>> some panos.  I've struggled a lot with it until I found "autopano" 
>> www.autopano.net  It really made it easier to put these things together.
>>
>> Check out:
>> http://photography2.skofteland.net:8080/displayimage.php?pos=-68
> 
> very nice, saved me from trip to Sydney... ;-)
> 
> BTW have you been waiting for that ship under the bridge or it just 
> happened?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Peter
> 

That's what you call impeccable timing, lightning reflexes, an artist 
eye and rush hour ferry schedules...  The ferry's do come quite 
frequently...

It's the most beautiful city on the planet, Peter, you should visit if 
you can.

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Re: PESO - Sydney Harbour Pano

[Christian]

Thanks, Paul.  I really struggled with all of these because the 
exposures differed across the frames and I could never get the sky to 
match.  Thankfully, Aotopano Pro does an amazing job.  So far it is the 
best point and click pano stitcher I've found.

Chrsitian

Paul Stenquist wrote:
> Excellent work. I like this one a lot. I like the one from the balcony  
> of the hotel even more. Great stuff. Looks like some wall hangings to  
> me.
> Paul
> On Feb 24, 2007, at 11:14 PM, Christian wrote:
> 
>> Thanks, Brendan...  I got up just before sunrise to get down to Mrs.
>> Macquerie's chair for the nice morning light.  I couldn't have asked  
>> for
>> better weather.
>>
>> Christian
>>
>> Brendan MacRae wrote:
>>> Nice one, Christian. Really good light at that time of
>>> day.
>>>
>>> I'm going to have to try the pano thing soon.
>>>
>>> -Brendan
>>> --- Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 Check out:

>>> http://photography2.skofteland.net:8080/displayimage.php?pos=-68
 (click the thumbnail for a bigger image  - warning
 400kb)

 Alternative links:

>>> http://photography2.skofteland.net:8080/albums/userpics/10001/Pano- 
>>> IMG_567728web.jpg
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Re: How many K10s do we have now? a poll.

[John Celio]

> The total today is now at 56 units.

Count me as 57, aka ketchup. ;)

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Re: PESO - Sydney Harbour Pano

[Christian]

Thanks, Brian.

To be honest I have very few Washington, DC monuments and buildings type 
pictures...  I do think that Sydney is the most beautiful city on the 
planet and I fell in love with the place when I first visited my 
then-soon-to-be-wife in early 2000.  As someone mentioned a while back 
in regards to a Bridge-and-Opera-House shot I showed here, there were 
practically foot prints to stand in to take the shot.  All that was 
missing was the Kodak "photo spot" sign.

As for the oversharpening, I used bicubic sharpening in the rendering 
and the web resize, perhaps that caused the artifacts you saw.  I also 
did a fair amount of clone-stamp spot removal (damn sensor).

Christian

Brian Walters wrote:
> Hi Christian
> 
> Great early morning light and excellent composition.  I wonder if it might 
> have been slightly over-sharpened.  On my monitor there appear to be  
> sharpening artifacts in the sky - admittedly they are faint at 100% zoom.
> 
> This is the sort of photo that only a visitor can take - I've lived in Sydney 
> all my life but I'd have to get out of bed much too early to get this sort of 
> early morning light :-)
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Brian
> 
> +++
> Brian Walters
> Western Sydney, Australia
> 
> 
> 
>  sky is a little bit "bloicky"
> 
> Quoting Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
>> I shot a lot of frames on last year's Oz trip in the hopes of
>> stitching 
>> some panos.  I've struggled a lot with it until I found "autopano"
>>
>> www.autopano.net  It really made it easier to put these things
>> together.
>>
>> Check out:
>> http://photography2.skofteland.net:8080/displayimage.php?pos=-68
>> (click the thumbnail for a bigger image  - warning 400kb)
>>
>> Alternative links:
>> http://photography2.skofteland.net:8080/albums/userpics/10001/Pano-IMG_567728web.jpg
>> or
>> http://tinyurl.com/yow465
>>
>> Comments + or - always appreciated.
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Re: PESO - Sydney Harbour Pano

[Christian]

Brian Walters wrote:

> The ferries run regularly so you don't have to wait long for one to pass by.

How am I supposed to project the aura of superphotographer if you make 
it sound so simple?  :-)

The real truth is that I did time that shot in the pano sequence to 
coincide with the ferry.  But as you mention, I had many opportunities.

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Re: SV: PESO - Sydney Harbour Pano

[Christian]

Thanks, Jens.

Christian

Jens Bladt wrote:
> Some very nice panoramas there, Christian.
> Regards


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Re: Q: OSX/intel: Photoshop CS2 or wait for CS3?

[Mat Maessen]

On 2/25/07, Jon Paul Schelter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I just switched from a PC to a Mac (MacBook Pro 2GHz)  I'm still
> editing on my PC with PS7, but I'll be selling the PC soon.
>
> Does it make sense right now to buy CS2 for an intel Mac, or should I
> wait for CS3?

I would wait until CS3 is released. Information from an inside source
at Adobe says it should be out around April or so.

> I didn't think CS2 was a universal app - am I wrong?

It is not a universal app. So on an Intel mac, it would be running
under Rosetta. It does run quite well that way, though not as well as
a native binary would.

> Does Adobe usually have a reasonable upgrade policy? - say if I were
> to buy CS2 shortly before CS3 came out, could I upgrade for free or a
> small fee?

You would probably end up paying the full upgrade fee for CS3, though
I have no personal experience with such an upgrade. It's been my
experience that software companies usually don't cut people breaks in
situations like that.
I'm not sure if they'll let you do a 2-version upgrade, but you might
be able to upgrade the PS7 from your PC to CS2 on the mac, and then do
another upgrade to CS3 on the mac. You might want to call Adobe tech
support, and ask them what they would recommend for that.

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Re: Q: OSX/intel: Photoshop CS2 or wait for CS3?

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

- PS CS2 is not a Universal binary, that will be PS CS3, so PS CS2 on  
the MacBook Pro runs a little slower than it does on comparable speed  
PowerBook G4 systems. It's quite usable nonetheless (be sure you put  
in 2G RAM at least), it runs at about the speed of a 1.2Ghz G4 single  
processor system.

- It's difficult to do anything but conjecture about when PS CS3 will  
release for sure, but I think the current public beta (available from  
http://labs.adobe.com) will work until June when the license runs  
out. Either they'll release another public beta or the real thing  
around then. You need a Mac OS X Photoshop CS2 license to download  
and use PS CS3 beta (which runs very well already, btw).

- Version upgrades normally cost about $170 from Adobe. To obtain the  
Mac OS X version of PS CS2 if you have a legal copy of Photoshop 7  
for Windows, you'll need an OS platform transfer and upgrade, and it  
should cost you that same $170. CS3 will cost another $170.

So... If you're impatient or have work to do, buy the CS2 Mac OS X  
upgrade and get going. If your needs are lighter, you can download  
the evaluation copy and get 30 days free trial use ... I don't think  
CS3 will be available in 30 days, but it's not a bad risk as you can  
simply buy the upgrade at the end when the trial runs out. You won't  
be able to get CS3 beta unless you get the CS2 license, however.

Photoshop is essential enough to me that it would be worth the money  
to upgrade now ...

Godfrey


On Feb 25, 2007, at 6:39 PM, Jon Paul Schelter wrote:

> I've a question or two for any Mac-heads out there..
>
> I just switched from a PC to a Mac (MacBook Pro 2GHz)  I'm still
> editing on my PC with PS7, but I'll be selling the PC soon.
>
> Does it make sense right now to buy CS2 for an intel Mac, or should I
> wait for CS3?
>
> I didn't think CS2 was a universal app - am I wrong?
> Does Adobe usually have a reasonable upgrade policy? - say if I were
> to buy CS2 shortly before CS3 came out, could I upgrade for free or a
> small fee?
>
> Thanks for any advice you can offer.
>
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Re: PUG Problems and Deadline Extension

[ann sanfedele]

I did the autosubmit without incident a couple of days ago - at least I 
think I did! :)

ann

P. J. Alling wrote:

>Yes.  Once Jostein fixed the page problem I had no problem.  Try the 
>e-mail method  It's described about 2/3rd's of the way down this page. 
>
>http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html
>
>Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>  
>
>>I have tried several times to post a photo for this month's PUG, but
>>it will not register.  Has anyone else been successful?
>>
>>Dan M
>>
>>On 2/21/07, Rick Womer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>  
>>
>>
>>>Jostein tells me that his ISP got screwed up
>>>installing a Microsoft server patch, which is why we
>>>haven't been able to upload PUGs of late.
>>>
>>>The problem is now fixed, and the PUG deadline has
>>>been extended to Feb 25 (pending Adelheid's approval).
>>>
>>>So, everyone, send in your submissions!  The topic is
>>>"Black and White".
>>>
>>>Rick
>>>
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Q: OSX/intel: Photoshop CS2 or wait for CS3?

[Jon Paul Schelter]

I've a question or two for any Mac-heads out there..

I just switched from a PC to a Mac (MacBook Pro 2GHz)  I'm still  
editing on my PC with PS7, but I'll be selling the PC soon.

Does it make sense right now to buy CS2 for an intel Mac, or should I  
wait for CS3?

I didn't think CS2 was a universal app - am I wrong?
Does Adobe usually have a reasonable upgrade policy? - say if I were  
to buy CS2 shortly before CS3 came out, could I upgrade for free or a  
small fee?

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PESO - Kyoto

[Eric Featherstone]

Taken on evening walk in a Kyoto backstreet somewhere between
Kiyomizu-dera and Yasaka-jinja:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5644387

Comments welcome. I did wonder about cropping the left hand side upto
the banner to remove that restaurant sign, and possibly cropping the
right hand side a bit too.

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Re: GESO

[J and K Messervy]

Thanks very much!

I was out there for about half an hour before the rain got quite heavy and 
the lightning got a bit too close.
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> Awesome!  I wouldn't say that it was plain luck that you got those
> shots; the contrast between the deep blue sky lit up by the lightning
> and the tungsten city lights must have required some foresight.
>
> How long were you out there?
>
> On 2/24/07, J and K Messervy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> We've had a lot of thunderstorms in the last two weeks and I've spent a 
>> lot
>> of time and effort trying to get some good lightning shots.  I've been
>> frustrated by being in the wrong spot, just missing shots, having the 
>> wrong
>> settings, etc.
>>
>> Well, last night we had a ripper of a lightning display and I finally 
>> found
>> myself in the right place at the right time and managed to grab six 
>> keepers!
>> I'm a happy man!
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/2cw8oq
>>
>> comments, critiques...all welcome.
>>
>> Cheers
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Re: GESO

[Bong Manayon]

Awesome!  I wouldn't say that it was plain luck that you got those
shots; the contrast between the deep blue sky lit up by the lightning
and the tungsten city lights must have required some foresight.

How long were you out there?

On 2/24/07, J and K Messervy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We've had a lot of thunderstorms in the last two weeks and I've spent a lot
> of time and effort trying to get some good lightning shots.  I've been
> frustrated by being in the wrong spot, just missing shots, having the wrong
> settings, etc.
>
> Well, last night we had a ripper of a lightning display and I finally found
> myself in the right place at the right time and managed to grab six keepers!
> I'm a happy man!
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2cw8oq
>
> comments, critiques...all welcome.
>
> Cheers
> James Messervy
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Re: DA* instead of DFA* : an idea why ?

[Paul Stenquist]

But so far, might hasn't been the operative word. However, I think  
that in longer lenses where it makes little difference, they might  
well afford more coverage.
Paul
On Feb 25, 2007, at 6:12 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

> Read the word "might"...
>
> Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> No. None of the DA lenses cover a 35 mm frame, save perhaps the DA40,
>> which was based on a 35 mm lens.
>> Paul
>> On Feb 25, 2007, at 5:38 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I think that DA as a lens prefix should be taken to mean it might
>>> cover
>>> a 35mm frame but we won't guarantee it.
>>>
>>> Toralf Lund wrote:
>>>
>> When the time
>> comes, Pentax will make lenses for the new sensor size (if
>> necessary).
>> In the meantime, relax and enjoy the great glass that's becoming
>> available now.
>>
>>
>>
> We might want to check if those new telephoto primes, when they
> come out,
> might also cover 35mm film.  It is strange that they quickly
> changed them
> from DFA to DA, probably without any hardware change (my
> speculation).
>
>
>
 Or maybe they just decided to remove the aperture ring? Perhaps  
 "DA"
 should just be taken to mean "optimised for digital, no aperture
 ring"
 and "DFA", "digitally optimised, with aperture ring" - and that no
 assumptions about the image circle should be made based on this
 nomenclature?

 (Now, let's see if this evolves into another discussion about
 aperture
 ring or no aperture ring...)

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Re: keyword thoughts

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Feb 25, 2007, at 4:43 PM, Bob W wrote:

>> Simple sets do make sense to me ... say ",> subject>," as one keyword set. E.g.: I have lots
>> of pictures of trees, taken all over the world, so I typically
>> keyword for 'tree', where in the world they are, and whether
>> there is
>> any other subject in the scene that I might want the photo for.
>>
>
> this is the sort of area where hierarchies are quite useful. 'Tree'
> would be at the top of the hierarchy (or the root, if you think of a
> hierarchy as a tree!). You can then set up 'trees' as a synonym, and
> 'plane', 'willow', 'eucalyptus' and so on as 'children' (perhaps with
> their Latin names as synonyms). If you know you've photographed a
> plane tree then by definition it is a tree and will show up in
> searches for 'tree' - you don't have to type 'plane', 'platana' or
> 'tree' into the keywords for each of the thousand pictures you've
> taken of plane trees. If you don't know what kind of tree you've
> photographed you can just keyword it as 'tree'.
>
> Of course, where it all goes horribly wrong is that a plane is also a
> woodworking tool, a flat level surface and a means of transport, none
> of which is a subset of tree.

Yes, there are many possibilities. Exactly how to organize  
hierarchies will take some thought. Simple keywords, and simple sets  
of keywords, are my more immediate need.

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Re: OT -- lenswork back issue #21 (corrected)

[Scott Loveless]

Sorry.  That should be issue #21.  Thanks again.

On 2/25/07, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does anyone have a copy of LensWork #28, or the 10 or 11 year CD
> compilation?  I'd like to read the article entitled "Getting Serious:
> The One Hundred Prints Project".  Unfortunately, the print version of
> that issue is no longer available.
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> Thanks.
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OT -- lenswork back issue #28

[Scott Loveless]

Does anyone have a copy of LensWork #28, or the 10 or 11 year CD
compilation?  I'd like to read the article entitled "Getting Serious:
The One Hundred Prints Project".  Unfortunately, the print version of
that issue is no longer available.

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Re: PESO: Photo Shoot Yesterday

[David Savage]

At 07:29 AM 26/02/2007, Cotty wrote:
>On 25/2/07, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
> >STUNNING shot Walter - that's an amzing pic - but for heaven's sake
> >clone out the grass. Not a big job on that one and it would turn it into
> >a prozewinner.
>
>LOL
>
>Forsooth, for a slip I have committed,
>enough to have me admitted


I thought you were trying to start a pun thread & yankifying prose at the 
same time.

;-)

Cheers,

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RE: keyword thoughts

[Bob W]

[...]
> 
> Don't know where you'd get a downloadable thesaurus. I've not played

> with all the notions of synonyms, hierarchies yet. I'm still  
> keywording for simple things like "where are all the photos I 
> took at  
> aviation museums in 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005?" etc.
> 
> Simple sets do make sense to me ... say ", subject>," as one keyword set. E.g.: I have lots

> of pictures of trees, taken all over the world, so I typically  
> keyword for 'tree', where in the world they are, and whether 
> there is  
> any other subject in the scene that I might want the photo for.
> 

this is the sort of area where hierarchies are quite useful. 'Tree'
would be at the top of the hierarchy (or the root, if you think of a
hierarchy as a tree!). You can then set up 'trees' as a synonym, and
'plane', 'willow', 'eucalyptus' and so on as 'children' (perhaps with
their Latin names as synonyms). If you know you've photographed a
plane tree then by definition it is a tree and will show up in
searches for 'tree' - you don't have to type 'plane', 'platana' or
'tree' into the keywords for each of the thousand pictures you've
taken of plane trees. If you don't know what kind of tree you've
photographed you can just keyword it as 'tree'.

Of course, where it all goes horribly wrong is that a plane is also a
woodworking tool, a flat level surface and a means of transport, none
of which is a subset of tree.

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PESO: Photo Shoot Yesterday

[Walter Hamler]

"That's a great shot of the bird, Walter, but my reputation is still 
intact...  It's not a cormorant it's an anhinga"

Thanks Christian. I guess we learn something everyday!
I am not an ardent birder and we have always called them cormorants around 
here, but I am sure there are folks who know the difference.
I shot some pics several years ago of a fight between a Blue Heron and a 
Cormorant (It had the hooked bill). I have to give the Cormorant his due, as 
he stood his ground against a much larger bird and won. At least the Heron 
was the one who retreated and went under a tree branch and sulked!

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Re: Pentax digital medium format

[Cotty]

On 25/2/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:

>More to the point, if the 645D is built to the same quality spec as  
>the 645, 645N and 645NII, I don't think there's *anything* to worry  
>about. Wonderful cameras, beautifully made and very sensibly laid  
>out. I'm sorry I didn't discover them until recently ...

I haven't used any Pentax medium format. I have owned and used a Mamiya
RB67 and Bronica 645 and both were tough beasties, the Mamiya in
particular. If the 645D is anything like this league, then confidence in
the marque will be high.

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Re: Pentax digital medium format

[Cotty]

On 25/2/07, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:

>If history is any indication, Pentax will be right up front in build  
>quality. Compare the K10D to similar priced Canons. "Nuff said.

Yeah, I'll buy that. But as well as comparing apples with apples, let's
compare pro oranges with pro oranges. The 645D will be Pentax's first
foray into the choppy seas of the professional digital market. They must
make a big splash to be noticed. Like you, I am actually optimistic on
this. Sure, the price point will be important, but to business buyers,
price is less of an issue.

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Re: PESO: Photo Shoot Yesterday

[Christian]

Walter Hamler wrote:
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/Cormorantweb.jpg
> 
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/FoggySunriseweb.jpg
> 
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/Jaguarweb.jpg
> 
> Went on a shoot yesterday to a nearby wetlands. Shot a few birds, etc. 
> Comments, suggestions welcome!
> 
> Walt 

That's a great shot of the bird, Walter, but my reputation is still 
intact...  It's not a cormorant it's an anhinga

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Re: Pentax digital medium format

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

More to the point, if the 645D is built to the same quality spec as  
the 645, 645N and 645NII, I don't think there's *anything* to worry  
about. Wonderful cameras, beautifully made and very sensibly laid  
out. I'm sorry I didn't discover them until recently ...

G

On Feb 25, 2007, at 2:37 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

> If history is any indication, Pentax will be right up front in build
> quality. Compare the K10D to similar priced Canons. "Nuff said.


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Re: PESO -- Theater Noir

[Christian]

P. J. Alling wrote:
> She had implied it would be an interesting ride, now the missing glove, 
> the mysterious stranger, it was all tomming together...
> 
> http://www.mindspring.com/~morephotos/PESO_--_theaternoir.html

Nicely seen.  The B&W rendering is well done.

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Re: keyword thoughts

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Feb 25, 2007, at 3:10 PM, Bob W wrote:

> ... In the Library module on the Find panel you can specify text  
> (such as
> a keyword) for it to look for with options such as Containing,
> Containing All, Starts With etc. But it doesn't do Exact match. So a
> search for pictures with the key word Starts With 'Cat' finds all my
> cat photos, but also all my cattle photos, catastrophic photos,
> catatonia photos and catalytic converter photos.

You might try "Starts With 'cat '" ... then it will delimit things  
quite a lot further.

> I've been playing around with Keywords today. I quite like the ability
> to do synonyms, and I quite like that you can build hierarchies
> (parent/child relationships) although each keyword can only have one
> parent, which is somewhat restrictive albeit politically correct. I
> can't see the point (yet?) of keyword sets. But actually what I would
> really like is 'semantic fields' and 'sense relations'. In
> linguistics, semantic fields are bla bla, actually I've had too close
> a sense relation with vodka & tonic this evening to explain these, and
> I'm not likely to get them anyway.

Don't know where you'd get a downloadable thesaurus. I've not played  
with all the notions of synonyms, hierarchies yet. I'm still  
keywording for simple things like "where are all the photos I took at  
aviation museums in 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005?" etc.

Simple sets do make sense to me ... say ",," as one keyword set. E.g.: I have lots  
of pictures of trees, taken all over the world, so I typically  
keyword for 'tree', where in the world they are, and whether there is  
any other subject in the scene that I might want the photo for.

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Re: PESO - Lazy Afternoon II

[Russell Kerstetter]

Thanks, Jack

Russ

On 2/25/07, Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Jack
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> > >
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> > > http://www.avocadohead.com/piclinks/IMGP2548.html
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> > Thanks all for looking.  Yes it is a cyclamen, however if you had
> > just
> > asked what it was, I would have had to run down-stairs to look :)
> > Tom, I didn't know if you you were asking or telling about cropping
> > the bottom, and no it is not cropped, but for you and Jack I have
> > worked up a new crop.  Thanks Cotty, Peter, Paul and Marnie for your
> > comments.
> >
> > new crop --> http://www.avocadohead.com/piclinks/spare.html
> >
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Re: PESO - Lazy Afternoon II

[Christian]

Cotty wrote:
> On 24/2/07, Russell Kerstetter, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
>> I couldn't decide between two, so I posted both!  Maybe you can help.
>>
>> http://www.avocadohead.com/piclinks/IMGP2545.html
>>
>> http://www.avocadohead.com/piclinks/IMGP2548.html
> 
> 
> 2545.
> 

I agree; it's the better of the two.

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Re: PESO - For Knarf

[Christian]

Adam Maas wrote:
> Shot this yesterday wandering around the Annex near Kensington Market, 
> where Frank's shot more than a few shots. Not my typical thing though.
> 
> Thought Frank might like it though, it's got motion blur, bikes and is 
> in B&W.
> 
> http://flickr.com/photos/mawz/402230206/
> 
> Large/Direct link for the Flickr-phobic:
> 
> http://farm1.static.flickr.com/141/402230206_8e63d1a555_b.jpg

I really like the motion in this one.  Nice grab.

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Re: Ah ... a new lens

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Here's a rather extreme demonstration of flare with the FA31:

   http://homepage.mac.com/godders/FA31-flare.jpg

I'd noticed some odd veiling softness/contrast reduction under  
certain circumstances and found this example, taken at night with a  
strong street light just out of the frame, which showed me the flare  
pattern clearly. Notice how it has a sharp edge inset from the edge  
of the frame.

A good lens hood would likely eliminate it for the DSLR, if you could  
fit a good lens hood with that fixed hood. Grr.

For me, the 43 Limited is going to replace the 35/2 and 50/1.4 ... it  
slots in between the 28 and 70 perfectly. The kit I've assembled  now  
is very complete, for my purposes: DA14, DA21, FA28, FA43, DA70 and  
the DA50-200. All (except the 14) very compact and light, just the  
right FoV coverage, very high image quality throughout. The graph of  
FoV vs FL is pretty nice:

   http://homepage.mac.com/godders/FoVs-Pentax-DSLR.jpg

I still use the FA20-35 too ... it's such a good wide-normal zoom for  
when I want to carry just one lens.

Godfrey

On Feb 25, 2007, at 8:04 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

> I see... Indeed it escaped my mind (or actually memory) that you had
> 31 Limited. In fact, it is fast (f 1.8) and I find it just right for
> K10D (without a grip). Though I agree with you about the hood and
> hence rather strange lens cap. I did not have a chance to use FA 35/2
> AL though. Although I admit that having 43 Lim, the idea of 35 mm
> seems just a bit redundant - the difference in FOV is there, but it is
> not that big.
>
> My (black) 31 Limited never flared yet. I shall be more aware that it
> may flare, 'cause you say you had experienced it.
>
>
> On 2/25/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> On Feb 25, 2007, at 12:18 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:
>>
>>> Have you played with 31 Limited?
>>
>> I owned the 31 Limited first. Nice imaging qualities (but some
>> annoying flare), irritatingly stupid fixed lens hood, awkward lens
>> cap, big and heavy. Not enough of an improvement in imaging and too
>> annoying in size and weight, with that hood, compared the FA35/2 AL
>> to warrant a 3x price tag, IMO.
>>
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RE: Forgive my ignorance, but what use is Lightroom?

[Bob W]

Having burbled all that, I forgot the point. Which is, does anyone
know of a downloadable thesaurus? I would like to import it into
Lightbox, and save myself the trouble of having to think up zillions
of synonyms whenever I want to add a new keyword.

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> Subject: RE: Forgive my ignorance, but what use is Lightroom?
> 
> The more I use Lightroom the more I like it. In general I think to
> myself "It ought to do X, and it ought to do it this way", so I try
X
> this way, and it does it. 
> 
> I have found a couple of areas where it's missed something though. 
> 
> In the Library module on the Find panel you can specify text (such
as
> a keyword) for it to look for with options such as Containing,
> Containing All, Starts With etc. But it doesn't do Exact match. So a
> search for pictures with the key word Starts With 'Cat' finds all my
> cat photos, but also all my cattle photos, catastrophic photos,
> catatonia photos and catalytic converter photos.
> 
> I've been playing around with Keywords today. I quite like the
ability
> to do synonyms, and I quite like that you can build hierarchies
> (parent/child relationships) although each keyword can only have one
> parent, which is somewhat restrictive albeit politically correct. I
> can't see the point (yet?) of keyword sets. But actually what I
would
> really like is 'semantic fields' and 'sense relations'. In
> linguistics, semantic fields are bla bla, actually I've had too
close
> a sense relation with vodka & tonic this evening to explain these,
and
> I'm not likely to get them anyway.
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> > You can tell LR to discard the previews and save some space, or
tell
> 
> > it to discard them after a suitable unused period of time.
> > 
> > But if you prefer Phase One, well, why not just stick with it?
> > 
> > G
> > 
> > On Feb 25, 2007, at 9:22 AM, Jens Bladt wrote:
> > 
> > > This sounds very nice, Godfrey. Of course. I can go back (Phase

> > > One) as
> > > well - I 'casue I still have the original RAW file. No snap shot

> > > option
> > > though. As long as I keep the preview files, I still have the
Raw-
> 
> > > edition -
> > > and could copy the instruction to other files. Biut I don't 
> > keep them.
> > > They'd fill up my computer really fast. Besides, I like the 
> > editing  
> > > tools/
> > > user interface in Phase One better :-)
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PESO: Photo Shoot Yesterday

[Walter Hamler]

Thanks all for the input. They are all appreciated.
Adjacent to the wetlands is a zoo, so the Jaguars are not running loose!! I 
am a cat lover, but not that much!!
I have an otherwise identical view of the cormorant, without the grass. I 
will try a print of it to compare.

Our club is pretty active and sets up these shoot opportunities every month. 
This was my first, but will not be the last. It is exactly what I need to 
get me off my dead butt and shoot! I sure am looking forward to GFM in June. 
I really hope to see as many of you as possible there!

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Re: DA* instead of DFA* : an idea why ?

[P. J. Alling]

Read the word "might"...

Paul Stenquist wrote:
> No. None of the DA lenses cover a 35 mm frame, save perhaps the DA40,  
> which was based on a 35 mm lens.
> Paul
> On Feb 25, 2007, at 5:38 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
>
>   
>> I think that DA as a lens prefix should be taken to mean it might  
>> cover
>> a 35mm frame but we won't guarantee it.
>>
>> Toralf Lund wrote:
>> 
> When the time
> comes, Pentax will make lenses for the new sensor size (if  
> necessary).
> In the meantime, relax and enjoy the great glass that's becoming
> available now.
>
>
>   
 We might want to check if those new telephoto primes, when they  
 come out,
 might also cover 35mm film.  It is strange that they quickly  
 changed them
 from DFA to DA, probably without any hardware change (my  
 speculation).


 
>>> Or maybe they just decided to remove the aperture ring? Perhaps "DA"
>>> should just be taken to mean "optimised for digital, no aperture  
>>> ring"
>>> and "DFA", "digitally optimised, with aperture ring" - and that no
>>> assumptions about the image circle should be made based on this
>>> nomenclature?
>>>
>>> (Now, let's see if this evolves into another discussion about  
>>> aperture
>>> ring or no aperture ring...)
>>>
>>> - T
>>>
>>>
>>>
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RE: Forgive my ignorance, but what use is Lightroom?

[Bob W]

The more I use Lightroom the more I like it. In general I think to
myself "It ought to do X, and it ought to do it this way", so I try X
this way, and it does it. 

I have found a couple of areas where it's missed something though. 

In the Library module on the Find panel you can specify text (such as
a keyword) for it to look for with options such as Containing,
Containing All, Starts With etc. But it doesn't do Exact match. So a
search for pictures with the key word Starts With 'Cat' finds all my
cat photos, but also all my cattle photos, catastrophic photos,
catatonia photos and catalytic converter photos.

I've been playing around with Keywords today. I quite like the ability
to do synonyms, and I quite like that you can build hierarchies
(parent/child relationships) although each keyword can only have one
parent, which is somewhat restrictive albeit politically correct. I
can't see the point (yet?) of keyword sets. But actually what I would
really like is 'semantic fields' and 'sense relations'. In
linguistics, semantic fields are bla bla, actually I've had too close
a sense relation with vodka & tonic this evening to explain these, and
I'm not likely to get them anyway.

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> 
> You can tell LR to discard the previews and save some space, or tell

> it to discard them after a suitable unused period of time.
> 
> But if you prefer Phase One, well, why not just stick with it?
> 
> G
> 
> On Feb 25, 2007, at 9:22 AM, Jens Bladt wrote:
> 
> > This sounds very nice, Godfrey. Of course. I can go back (Phase  
> > One) as
> > well - I 'casue I still have the original RAW file. No snap shot  
> > option
> > though. As long as I keep the preview files, I still have the Raw-

> > edition -
> > and could copy the instruction to other files. Biut I don't 
> keep them.
> > They'd fill up my computer really fast. Besides, I like the 
> editing  
> > tools/
> > user interface in Phase One better :-)
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Re: DA* instead of DFA* : an idea why ?

[Paul Stenquist]

No. None of the DA lenses cover a 35 mm frame, save perhaps the DA40,  
which was based on a 35 mm lens.
Paul
On Feb 25, 2007, at 5:38 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

> I think that DA as a lens prefix should be taken to mean it might  
> cover
> a 35mm frame but we won't guarantee it.
>
> Toralf Lund wrote:
 When the time
 comes, Pentax will make lenses for the new sensor size (if  
 necessary).
 In the meantime, relax and enjoy the great glass that's becoming
 available now.


>>> We might want to check if those new telephoto primes, when they  
>>> come out,
>>> might also cover 35mm film.  It is strange that they quickly  
>>> changed them
>>> from DFA to DA, probably without any hardware change (my  
>>> speculation).
>>>
>>>
>> Or maybe they just decided to remove the aperture ring? Perhaps "DA"
>> should just be taken to mean "optimised for digital, no aperture  
>> ring"
>> and "DFA", "digitally optimised, with aperture ring" - and that no
>> assumptions about the image circle should be made based on this
>> nomenclature?
>>
>> (Now, let's see if this evolves into another discussion about  
>> aperture
>> ring or no aperture ring...)
>>
>> - T
>>
>>
>>
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Re: PESO - dim bulb

[ann sanfedele]

Brendan MacRae wrote:

>--- ann sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>>http://www.primelensphoto.com/bulb.jpg
>>>
>>>K10D  + A*85mm f1.4, Av mode, ISO 100, f11, +2EV,
>>>1/180, (2X)540 flashes + manual  white balance.
>>>
>>>Comments  welcome.
>>>
>>>-Brendan
>>>==
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>Ok-  how did you do that?  
>>I missed looking at it for a while - then read
>>through a bunch of posts 
>>hoping to see that you revealed.
>>
>>ann
>>
>>
>
>Not as much Photoshop as you might think. I made a
>custom cord for it and soldered one wire to the base
>and taped the other to the threads (it's aluminum so
>you can't solder it there). I put a dimmer on the hot
>leg to control the output better and fed most of the
>cable through the white paper background. About 5-6
>inches of cable is laying behind the bulb taped flat
>to the table top. A tiny bit of the tape needed to be
>cloned out in Photoshop (I actually used the healing
>brush tool). The only other photoshop "clean up" was
>to remove the reflections of the umbrellas. 
>
>The tape that held the cable was enough to hold the
>bulb upright.
>
Wow - some production!

>The most difficult thing was the white balance.
>
LOL ! - yeah , I can see that...

> Since
>I was using strobes to shoot a tungsten source, I had
>to manually set the WB with both sources. That was
>tricky. Plus, I continually adjusted the luminosity of
>the bulb with the dimmer which changes exposure and
>color temperature at the same time. I basically had to
>wing it after a while.
>
>-Brendan
>
>  
>
bracket bracket bracket, eh?  

anyway, a great stock shot  and a fun thing to do looks like.

ann

>
>
>
> 
>
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Re: Forgive my ignorance, but what use is Lightroom?

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

You can tell LR to discard the previews and save some space, or tell  
it to discard them after a suitable unused period of time.

But if you prefer Phase One, well, why not just stick with it?

G

On Feb 25, 2007, at 9:22 AM, Jens Bladt wrote:

> This sounds very nice, Godfrey. Of course. I can go back (Phase  
> One) as
> well - I 'casue I still have the original RAW file. No snap shot  
> option
> though. As long as I keep the preview files, I still have the Raw- 
> edition -
> and could copy the instruction to other files. Biut I don't keep them.
> They'd fill up my computer really fast. Besides, I like the editing  
> tools/
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Re: PESO - Dawn

[ann sanfedele]

Well  you know I'm pulling your chain just a bit , too, don't you?

I'm just saying, though, that you would find, compose, and shoot a photo 
that the average joe with a camera
wouldn't think of shooting - and those shots are what set you apart and 
show your style.

This scene itself was so "blingy" that someone of lesser talents and the 
op to stand where you were
standing would have taken the shot too.  

I like your subtle snow shots lots better.

ann


Tom C wrote:

>>From: ann sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>
>>Now I'm going to ruin your good mood :) :)
>>Tom - as far as what nature provided this is a definite "WOW" - I wish
>>I'd been there -
>>but it is  less than your best as far as your photography goes - it's
>>too easy.
>>Everyone would have taken that shot had they been there - or something
>>similar
>>
>>
>
>Of course they would. :-)  Easy shots are bad??? :-) I had just awoke and 
>was laying there looking out wondering if I should actually get up and take 
>some pictures or go back to sleep.  Of course there's very little time to 
>choose my vantage point or alter the composition, aside from deciding how 
>much zoom and how much sky vs.horizon before the light changes.
>
>  
>
>>I think, also, That had you been shooting with an LX you would have shot
>>a rool of film and
>>found almost all of them better...  the kind of scene film does better
>>than digital , I think.
>>
>>
>>
>
>  
>
>>ann
>>
>>
>
>Probably, and I'd have been shooting Velvia. ;-)  I just didn't have the 6x7 
>ready to go and I was barely awake besides.  Had I actually been awake I 
>probably would have walked down the hill and put some large silohouetted 
>pines somewhere in the scene.  I do have several variations as it is. but 
>overall similar. (What would have been cool is to have been at Mores Creek 
>Overlook at the right time in the morning).
>
>  
>
>>ann
>>
>>
>>
>
>I'll harp on this again. :-) Sure the shot was easy.  But factor in that I 
>had to find the house, make payments on the house, buy the kind of vehicles 
>that will dependably get my family to/from the house in all seasons, chain 
>up betwen 10 - 20 times a year, travel the 30 miles to work, 30 miles back 
>almost every day,  avoid the deer jumping out into the road at night, and on 
>TOP OF ALL OF THAT, wake up and get the camera... see it wasn't that easy. 
>LOL!
>
>Thanks for commenting on my lazy a**. :-)
>
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>
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Re: Pentax digital medium format

[Paul Stenquist]

If history is any indication, Pentax will be right up front in build  
quality. Compare the K10D to similar priced Canons. "Nuff said.
Paul
On Feb 25, 2007, at 5:16 PM, Cotty wrote:

> On 25/2/07, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>> I don't know if they'll hit that price but if they can get anywhere
>> near that of the high-megapixel Canons they'll have a winner.
>
> That IMO depends on a lot of things (I'm thinking noise, build quality
> for starters). No good having a cost-effective camera if it doesn't
> deliver the goods in terms of picture quality (and I have no reason to
> think it won't) or professional handling. Pentax need pros buying this
> camera, and if they pick it up and find that it looks as if there has
> been cost-cutting on the build, they'll put it down again. I really  
> hope
> it has had the works WRT quality where it counts. If not, then it will
> appeal less to those who need it, and more to those who want it.
>
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Re: DA* instead of DFA* : an idea why ?

[P. J. Alling]

I think that DA as a lens prefix should be taken to mean it might cover 
a 35mm frame but we won't guarantee it.

Toralf Lund wrote:
>>> When the time 
>>> comes, Pentax will make lenses for the new sensor size (if necessary).
>>> In the meantime, relax and enjoy the great glass that's becoming
>>> available now.
>>> 
>>>   
>> We might want to check if those new telephoto primes, when they come out,
>> might also cover 35mm film.  It is strange that they quickly changed them
>> from DFA to DA, probably without any hardware change (my speculation).
>>   
>> 
> Or maybe they just decided to remove the aperture ring? Perhaps "DA" 
> should just be taken to mean "optimised for digital, no aperture ring" 
> and "DFA", "digitally optimised, with aperture ring" - and that no 
> assumptions about the image circle should be made based on this 
> nomenclature?
>
> (Now, let's see if this evolves into another discussion about aperture 
> ring or no aperture ring...)
>
> - T
>
>
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Re: PESO: Photo Shoot Yesterday

[P. J. Alling]

Haven't you reversed committed and admitted in that couplet?

Cotty wrote:
> On 25/2/07, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>   
>> STUNNING shot Walter - that's an amzing pic - but for heaven's sake
>> clone out the grass. Not a big job on that one and it would turn it into
>> a prozewinner.
>> 
>
> LOL
>
> Forsooth, for a slip I have committed,
> enough to have me admitted
>
>
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Re: GESO

[ann sanfedele]

J and K Messervy wrote:

>We've had a lot of thunderstorms in the last two weeks and I've spent a lot 
>of time and effort trying to get some good lightning shots.  I've been 
>frustrated by being in the wrong spot, just missing shots, having the wrong 
>settings, etc.
>
>Well, last night we had a ripper of a lightning display and I finally found 
>myself in the right place at the right time and managed to grab six keepers! 
>I'm a happy man!
>
>http://tinyurl.com/2cw8oq
>
>comments, critiques...all welcome.
>
>Cheers
>James Messervy 
>
>  
>
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and I can see why you are happy  - looks like ET should be landing there 
soon. :)
where do you live?
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Re: PESO: Photo Shoot Yesterday

[Cotty]

On 25/2/07, Walter Hamler, discombobulated, unleashed:

>http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/Cormorantweb.jpg

If it's got a cormorant in it, I have to see it ;-)

STUNNING shot Walter - that's an amzing pic - but for heaven's sake
clone out the grass. Not a big job on that one and it would turn it into
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Re: PESO: Grace tests the wireless flash/stroboframe setup

[Paul Stenquist]

Yes, I could have shot at a much wider stop. But that's more work,  
and I was feeling lazy:-).
Paul
On Feb 25, 2007, at 4:54 PM, Mike Hamilton wrote:

> On 2/25/07, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5643208&size=lg
>> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5643196&size=lg
>
> Very nice lighting, Paul.  I need to do a bit more playing around with
> my own lighting techniques still, and I'll look at one of those
> Omnibouce diffusers.  :)  The only niggling that I'd like to see is a
> slightly more OOF background.
>
>
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Re: PESO: Grace tests the wireless flash/stroboframe setup

[Paul Stenquist]

No, I haven't tried the built-in panel. I didn't notice it was there  
until yesterday:-). It's on my list of things to try.
Paul
On Feb 25, 2007, at 4:54 PM, Brendan MacRae wrote:

> I would say perfect flash exposure, Paul. The 540
> seems to work especially well in bounce mode from my
> experience.
>
> Have you tried the catch light panel built into the
> 540? I have found it works wonders with shorter
> ceilings.
>
> -Brendan
> --- Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Well, since I got the wireless mode to work, I
>> returned to my original
>> mission: Using the 560 flash high atop the
>> stroboframe with an
>> Omnibouce 80/20 reflector. (That's a reflector with
>> holes in it that
>> directs 80% of the light off the reflector and 20%
>> off atypical 8 foot
>> ceiling. ) I used it with and without the on-camera
>> flash. The first
>> pic here is with the on-camera (you can see the
>> double catch lights).
>> The second is without the on-camera. With the
>> on-camera, you
>> essentially have three light sources. I can alter
>> the intensity of the
>> 560 by changing teh zoom setting, the angle of the
>> flash head and the
>> height of the stroboframe bracket. (It's the
>> dead-serious one -- I
>> think they call it 2500 pro -- with height
>> adjustment and camera flip.)
>> I have to experiment. But I think this might be a
>> nice setup for
>> on-camera work, such as weddings and events. By the
>> way, Grace was
>> pretending that she was making an omelet. When I
>> make one for her I use
>> a hand mixer in a beaker. She had some orange juice
>> in a thermos. She
>> made a mess, and I got scolded:-)). This was a nice
>> conclusion to what
>> has been a weekend from hell with rampant flu
>> throughout the house and
>> even an ambulance trip to the hospital for
>> 91-year-old mom (who is a
>> back home and okay now). But that's another story.
>> Here's Gracie!
>>
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5643208&size=lg
>>
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5643196&size=lg
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Re: PESO: Photo Shoot Yesterday

[Cotty]

On 25/2/07, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed:

>STUNNING shot Walter - that's an amzing pic - but for heaven's sake
>clone out the grass. Not a big job on that one and it would turn it into
>a prozewinner.

LOL

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RE: DA* instead of DFA* : an idea why ?

[J. C. O'Connell]

Are you guys saying Pentax is now making lenses
with the same series designation that have
different image circles ? ( APS vs FF )?? If so,
that really sucks becuase there should always
be some distiction made there.
jco

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>> When the time
>> comes, Pentax will make lenses for the new sensor size (if
necessary).
>> In the meantime, relax and enjoy the great glass that's becoming
>> available now.
>> 
>
> We might want to check if those new telephoto primes, when they come 
> out, might also cover 35mm film.  It is strange that they quickly 
> changed them from DFA to DA, probably without any hardware change (my 
> speculation).
>   
Or maybe they just decided to remove the aperture ring? Perhaps "DA" 
should just be taken to mean "optimised for digital, no aperture ring" 
and "DFA", "digitally optimised, with aperture ring" - and that no 
assumptions about the image circle should be made based on this 
nomenclature?

(Now, let's see if this evolves into another discussion about aperture 
ring or no aperture ring...)

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Re: Pentax digital medium format

[Cotty]

On 25/2/07, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I don't know if they'll hit that price but if they can get anywhere 
>near that of the high-megapixel Canons they'll have a winner.

That IMO depends on a lot of things (I'm thinking noise, build quality
for starters). No good having a cost-effective camera if it doesn't
deliver the goods in terms of picture quality (and I have no reason to
think it won't) or professional handling. Pentax need pros buying this
camera, and if they pick it up and find that it looks as if there has
been cost-cutting on the build, they'll put it down again. I really hope
it has had the works WRT quality where it counts. If not, then it will
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Re: DA* instead of DFA* : an idea why ?

[Toralf Lund]

>> When the time 
>> comes, Pentax will make lenses for the new sensor size (if necessary).
>> In the meantime, relax and enjoy the great glass that's becoming
>> available now.
>> 
>
> We might want to check if those new telephoto primes, when they come out,
> might also cover 35mm film.  It is strange that they quickly changed them
> from DFA to DA, probably without any hardware change (my speculation).
>   
Or maybe they just decided to remove the aperture ring? Perhaps "DA" 
should just be taken to mean "optimised for digital, no aperture ring" 
and "DFA", "digitally optimised, with aperture ring" - and that no 
assumptions about the image circle should be made based on this 
nomenclature?

(Now, let's see if this evolves into another discussion about aperture 
ring or no aperture ring...)

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Re: PESO - Retired

[Mike Hamilton]

> > Paul Sorenson wrote:
> >> The Mid-Continent Railway Museum is in the unlikely small town of North
> >> Freedom, WI.  Spent some time there on a sunny fall day in early
> >> November and snapped this along with others.
> >>
> >> http://home.earthlink.net/~allaround6/data/quicksnap.htm
> >>
> >> Pentax DS2, Tamron 28-200 at 28mm.
> >> 1/60, f:6.3
> >> Converted with Fotomatic BW Plus w/blue filter
> >> Brown toning added w/Photo-Plugins B/W Conversion
> >>
> >> Comments, pro or con accepted


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Re: PESO: Grace tests the wireless flash/stroboframe setup

[Brendan MacRae]

I would say perfect flash exposure, Paul. The 540
seems to work especially well in bounce mode from my
experience.

Have you tried the catch light panel built into the
540? I have found it works wonders with shorter
ceilings.

-Brendan
--- Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Well, since I got the wireless mode to work, I
> returned to my original 
> mission: Using the 560 flash high atop the
> stroboframe with an 
> Omnibouce 80/20 reflector. (That's a reflector with
> holes in it that 
> directs 80% of the light off the reflector and 20%
> off atypical 8 foot 
> ceiling. ) I used it with and without the on-camera
> flash. The first 
> pic here is with the on-camera (you can see the
> double catch lights). 
> The second is without the on-camera. With the
> on-camera, you 
> essentially have three light sources. I can alter
> the intensity of the 
> 560 by changing teh zoom setting, the angle of the
> flash head and the 
> height of the stroboframe bracket. (It's the
> dead-serious one -- I 
> think they call it 2500 pro -- with height
> adjustment and camera flip.) 
> I have to experiment. But I think this might be a
> nice setup for 
> on-camera work, such as weddings and events. By the
> way, Grace was 
> pretending that she was making an omelet. When I
> make one for her I use 
> a hand mixer in a beaker. She had some orange juice
> in a thermos. She 
> made a mess, and I got scolded:-)). This was a nice
> conclusion to what 
> has been a weekend from hell with rampant flu
> throughout the house and 
> even an ambulance trip to the hospital for
> 91-year-old mom (who is a 
> back home and okay now). But that's another story.
> Here's Gracie!
>
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>
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Re: PESO - Retired

[Paul Sorenson]

Hm...I hope that's positive. ;>}

-P

P. J. Alling wrote:
> I hate you.
> 
> Paul Sorenson wrote:
>> The Mid-Continent Railway Museum is in the unlikely small town of North 
>> Freedom, WI.  Spent some time there on a sunny fall day in early 
>> November and snapped this along with others.
>>
>> http://home.earthlink.net/~allaround6/data/quicksnap.htm
>>
>> Pentax DS2, Tamron 28-200 at 28mm.
>> 1/60, f:6.3
>> Converted with Fotomatic BW Plus w/blue filter
>> Brown toning added w/Photo-Plugins B/W Conversion
>>
>> Comments, pro or con accepted
>>
>> -P
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Re: PESO -- Leaf

[William Robb]

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Subject: Re: PESO -- Leaf


> On 2/25/07, Scott Loveless
 I know I'm going
>> to want that 35mm Macro Limited.

Scott, I think you will find the 35 macro to be too short. I've been using 
the 100 macro a lot with the digital and am quite happy with it. I'm of the 
opinion that something in the 65-75mm FL would be ideal as a macro.
Perhaps try a 50mm with a close up lens to see if you like that FL for 
macro, and if so, look for a 50mm macro lens instead.

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Re: PESO: Photo Shoot Yesterday

[Brendan MacRae]

All very nice, Walter.

Especially the cormorant.

-Brendan
--- Walter Hamler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/Cormorantweb.jpg
> 
>
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> 
>
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/Jaguarweb.jpg
> 
> Went on a shoot yesterday to a nearby wetlands. Shot
> a few birds, etc. 
> Comments, suggestions welcome!
> 
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Re: PESO: Photo Shoot Yesterday

[Paul Stenquist]

Wow! Great stuff. Tell us more about the Jaguar. Where and under what  
circumstances? Ditto the Comorant. Both look great but perhaps not  
quite real. If I'm wrong, I'll take a beating with a wet noodle, and  
you'll take a nature photo award:-)).
Paul
On Feb 25, 2007, at 3:42 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

>
>
> On 2/25/07, Walter Hamler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/Cormorantweb.jpg
>>
>> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/FoggySunriseweb.jpg
>>
>> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/Jaguarweb.jpg
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>> Went on a shoot yesterday to a nearby wetlands. Shot a few birds,  
>> etc.
>> Comments, suggestions welcome!
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Re: PESO: Grace tests the wireless flash/stroboframe setup

[Mike Hamilton]

On 2/25/07, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5643208&size=lg
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5643196&size=lg

Very nice lighting, Paul.  I need to do a bit more playing around with
my own lighting techniques still, and I'll look at one of those
Omnibouce diffusers.  :)  The only niggling that I'd like to see is a
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Re: PESO -- Leaf

[Mike Hamilton]

On 2/25/07, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/PDMLPESO/photo#5035527265195980162
>
> I shot this with the K100D and 18-55 kit lens at 45mm, f11, 0.3
> seconds, -1.5EV, ISO 200, and then tinkered around with it a bit in
> Picasa.  I think it needs more depth of field.  I think I need a
> better understanding of black and white conversion.  I know I'm going
> to want that 35mm Macro Limited.
>
> Comments and critiques most welcome.  Thanks for looking.

I really like this, Scott.  Very simple.  nice line, coming out of the
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Re: Peso One more from golf. Relaxing at the beach

[Paul Stenquist]

HAR! Good one. Enjoyed this and the other "golf" pic. Do you use  
tennis balls? Looked too big to be a golf ball.
Paul
On Feb 25, 2007, at 4:16 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

> The lack of water, in liquid form, and sand, in sand form, does not
> stop us in the GWN from enjoying a Sunny Saturday Sip.
>
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5643143
>
> Enjoy
>
> Dave
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PESO -- Ukrainian Cultural Heritage Village

[Mike Hamilton]

http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/2007/02/25/ukrainian-cultural-heritage-village-01/

I took this on my first outing with the photography club that I
joined.  We had free reign of a  historical village that shows the way
of life from the late 1800's to the early 1900's.  I really enjoyed
the experience.  It was nice to be surrounded by people who understand
photography, and encourage tripods, lens changing, and not rushing!!

Details: K10D, FA 20-35 @ f8, iso 1000, 1/40s.  Tripod mounted.

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Re: PESO - dim bulb

[Brendan MacRae]

--- ann sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> >
> >
> >http://www.primelensphoto.com/bulb.jpg
> >
> >K10D  + A*85mm f1.4, Av mode, ISO 100, f11, +2EV,
> >1/180, (2X)540 flashes + manual  white balance.
> >
> >Comments  welcome.
> >
> >-Brendan
> >==
> >
> >  
> >
> Ok-  how did you do that?  
> I missed looking at it for a while - then read
> through a bunch of posts 
> hoping to see that you revealed.
> 
> ann

Not as much Photoshop as you might think. I made a
custom cord for it and soldered one wire to the base
and taped the other to the threads (it's aluminum so
you can't solder it there). I put a dimmer on the hot
leg to control the output better and fed most of the
cable through the white paper background. About 5-6
inches of cable is laying behind the bulb taped flat
to the table top. A tiny bit of the tape needed to be
cloned out in Photoshop (I actually used the healing
brush tool). The only other photoshop "clean up" was
to remove the reflections of the umbrellas. 

The tape that held the cable was enough to hold the
bulb upright.

The most difficult thing was the white balance. Since
I was using strobes to shoot a tungsten source, I had
to manually set the WB with both sources. That was
tricky. Plus, I continually adjusted the luminosity of
the bulb with the dimmer which changes exposure and
color temperature at the same time. I basically had to
wing it after a while.

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Re: PESO - Sydney Harbour Pano

[Brian Walters]

The ship is actually one of the 'Manly Ferries' ("Manly" being a seaside suburb 
on Sydney's north, not a description of the ferries.)

It's also a bit of an illusion - the boat is between the bridge and the camera 
position, they don't pass under the bridge.

The ferries run regularly so you don't have to wait long for one to pass by.


Cheers

Brian

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> 
> very nice, saved me from trip to Sydney... ;-)
> 
> BTW have you been waiting for that ship under the bridge or it just
> 
> happened?
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PESO: Grace tests the wireless flash/stroboframe setup

[Paul Stenquist]

Well, since I got the wireless mode to work, I returned to my original 
mission: Using the 560 flash high atop the stroboframe with an 
Omnibouce 80/20 reflector. (That's a reflector with holes in it that 
directs 80% of the light off the reflector and 20% off atypical 8 foot 
ceiling. ) I used it with and without the on-camera flash. The first 
pic here is with the on-camera (you can see the double catch lights). 
The second is without the on-camera. With the on-camera, you 
essentially have three light sources. I can alter the intensity of the 
560 by changing teh zoom setting, the angle of the flash head and the 
height of the stroboframe bracket. (It's the dead-serious one -- I 
think they call it 2500 pro -- with height adjustment and camera flip.) 
I have to experiment. But I think this might be a nice setup for 
on-camera work, such as weddings and events. By the way, Grace was 
pretending that she was making an omelet. When I make one for her I use 
a hand mixer in a beaker. She had some orange juice in a thermos. She 
made a mess, and I got scolded:-)). This was a nice conclusion to what 
has been a weekend from hell with rampant flu throughout the house and 
even an ambulance trip to the hospital for 91-year-old mom (who is a 
back home and okay now). But that's another story. Here's Gracie!
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Re: PESO -- Leaf

[Brian Walters]

Simple and effective.  I'm not sure that more depth of field would be an 
advantage. It wouldn't be nearly as interesting if everything was in sharp 
focus.



Cheers

Brian

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Quoting Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> I've always been inspired by Paul Caponigro's still life work. 
> Last
> month's issue of LensWork featured a photographer by the name of
> Guy
> Gagnon, a French Canadian living in Belgium.  His photographs are
> black and white renderings of dried plants against a black velvet
> background.  Since it's snowing outside and I didn't really feel
> like
> getting out, I draped a black sweatshirt over a dining chair,
> parked
> it next to the window, and took a few frames of this leaf that
> recently fell off one of my wife's plants.
> 
> http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/PDMLPESO/photo#5035527265195980162
> 
> I shot this with the K100D and 18-55 kit lens at 45mm, f11, 0.3
> seconds, -1.5EV, ISO 200, and then tinkered around with it a bit
> in
> Picasa.  I think it needs more depth of field.  I think I need a
> better understanding of black and white conversion.  I know I'm
> going
> to want that 35mm Macro Limited.
> 
> Comments and critiques most welcome.  Thanks for looking.

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RE: PESO: Photo Shoot Yesterday

[Bob W]

That's a helluva shag.

There are wetlands near me, but I've never seen a jaguar there. Best
we can come up with is a few oystercatchers and a mangy fox.

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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
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> Sent: 25 February 2007 20:14
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> Subject: PESO: Photo Shoot Yesterday
> 
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/Cormorantweb.jpg
> 
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/FoggySunriseweb.jpg
> 
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/Jaguarweb.jpg
> 
> Went on a shoot yesterday to a nearby wetlands. Shot a few 
> birds, etc. 
> Comments, suggestions welcome!
> 
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Peso One more from golf. Relaxing at the beach

[David J Brooks]

The lack of water, in liquid form, and sand, in sand form, does not
stop us in the GWN from enjoying a Sunny Saturday Sip.

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5643143

Enjoy

Dave

istD, A28 F1.8, S/H in PSCS2.

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Re: PESO: Photo Shoot Yesterday

[David J Brooks]

On 2/25/07, Rick Womer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The fog shot is great.

I agree, good job on the exposure.


>The cormorant is good.

Good detail and angle. All in favor of voting the cormont the PDML
official bird, say arr.

>The bokeh seems rather harsh in the jaguar shot, and that
> detracts from it.

May be a tad, but the shot is great.
>
> Where do you go shooting that has jaguars??

Local dealership.??  :-)

Dave
>
> Rick
>
> --- Walter Hamler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/Cormorantweb.jpg
> >
> >
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/FoggySunriseweb.jpg
> >
> >
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/Jaguarweb.jpg
> >
> > Went on a shoot yesterday to a nearby wetlands. Shot
> > a few birds, etc.
> > Comments, suggestions welcome!
> >
> > Walt
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Re: PESO: Photo Shoot Yesterday

[Rick Womer]

The fog shot is great.  The cormorant is good.  The
bokeh seems rather harsh in the jaguar shot, and that
detracts from it.

Where do you go shooting that has jaguars??

Rick

--- Walter Hamler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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> 
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/Jaguarweb.jpg
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> a few birds, etc. 
> Comments, suggestions welcome!
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Re: PESO Connecticut Zen VII

[Rick Womer]

Nice, Peter.  It works better for me than CT Zen VI.

Rick

--- "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Another addition in the "popular" Connecticut Zen
> series.  I took this a 
> couple of years ago just when the Zen series was
> forming in my mind, 
> stored it out on a HD and promptly forgot about it. 
> Well as luck would 
> have it last night my "New" old Saab decided to
> break it's clutch cable, 
> (don't even get me started on how stupid I think
> that design decision 
> was).  Needless to say with the current weather
> conditions I'm having a 
> shop do the replacement work.  So I'm more or less
> stuck at home today 
> and I decided to go through some older images and
> found this one. 
> 
>
http://home.mindspring.com/~morephotos/PESO_--_connzenvii.html
> 
> Technical Data:
> Pentax *ist-D ISO 1600 @ 1/60 sec.
> smc Pentax 43mm f1.9 Limited @ f22.
> 
> B&W conversion by Fotomatic B&W Plus w/Yellow Filter
> selected
> 
> Note:  The building in the middle ground is an
> "Award" Winning* design 
> donated to my town by the Yale School of
> Architecture, As such it looks 
> lovely but is totally useless for any actual
> purpose, though I thought 
> of necking with a girl friend there one.  It was at
> best uncomfortable.
> 
> *Damned if I remember what award it was, and I'm too
> lazy to even try to 
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Re: PESO - Tullster, the Wonder Dog

[Brendan MacRae]

Thanks for everyone's comments. Now maybe if it drys
out a bit today Tully may even get a walk today.

-Brendan
--- Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Great little fellow ;-).
> 
> Well done!
> 
> Boris
> 
> 
> 
> Brendan MacRae wrote:
> > http://www.primelensphoto.com/dog/tully
> > 
> > Yes, I finally popped my cherry and posted three
> pix
> > of my dog.
> > 
> > But, in my defense, he's a Pembroke Welsh Corgi
> which
> > in the States aren't all too common (though they
> are
> > becoming more so) so some of you might get a kick
> out
> > of him. 
> > 
> > He's a great dog and he posed pretty well for me.
> See
> > if you agree.
> > 
> > Enjoy.
> > 
> > -Brendan
> > 
> > 
> >  
> >
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Re: PESO -- Leaf

[Rick Womer]

Scott, I really like this one!  The way the leaf
undulates is fascinating.  Nice composition and
exposure, too.

Rick

--- Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I've always been inspired by Paul Caponigro's still
> life work.  Last
> month's issue of LensWork featured a photographer by
> the name of Guy
> Gagnon, a French Canadian living in Belgium.  His
> photographs are
> black and white renderings of dried plants against a
> black velvet
> background.  Since it's snowing outside and I didn't
> really feel like
> getting out, I draped a black sweatshirt over a
> dining chair, parked
> it next to the window, and took a few frames of this
> leaf that
> recently fell off one of my wife's plants.
> 
>
http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/PDMLPESO/photo#5035527265195980162
> 
> I shot this with the K100D and 18-55 kit lens at
> 45mm, f11, 0.3
> seconds, -1.5EV, ISO 200, and then tinkered around
> with it a bit in
> Picasa.  I think it needs more depth of field.  I
> think I need a
> better understanding of black and white conversion. 
> I know I'm going
> to want that 35mm Macro Limited.
> 
> Comments and critiques most welcome.  Thanks for
> looking.
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Re: PESO Playing from the fire hazard

[David J Brooks]

Girls, kids, dogs, cats, turkeys, all welcome.:-)

Dave

On 2/25/07, Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dave,
> What kind of manly game is that?  You let girls play?
> And you have lawn chairs too?!!
> Regards,  Bob S.
>
> On 2/25/07, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5642056
> >
> > A shot from Saturdays anuall snowgolf day. We came in second last.
> > Goal is not to finish last, not first.LOL
> >
> > About 1/2 way around the course we have a warm up fire going. My shot
> > and two others from our foursome landed in or on the edge.
> >
> > We play best ball, and mine was on the edge.
> >
> > This is Jim, using a cut down hockey stick, to flick the ball to the
> > cup. Best way to play this game is use an iron on the fairway and the
> > stick to flick into the cup.
> >
> > istD, A 28 f 1.8 jpeg mode, with +0.3 EV, Lightroom adjustment for
> > shadows.Exported as a jpeg then sharpened and SFW as sRGB.
> >
> > Enjoy and comments welcome
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Re: PESO - Retired

[David J Brooks]

Great shot. Great conversion to.

Oh, did i tell you, i like trains.:-)

Dave Brooks

On 2/25/07, Paul Sorenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The Mid-Continent Railway Museum is in the unlikely small town of North
> Freedom, WI.  Spent some time there on a sunny fall day in early
> November and snapped this along with others.
>
> http://home.earthlink.net/~allaround6/data/quicksnap.htm
>
> Pentax DS2, Tamron 28-200 at 28mm.
> 1/60, f:6.3
> Converted with Fotomatic BW Plus w/blue filter
> Brown toning added w/Photo-Plugins B/W Conversion
>
> Comments, pro or con accepted
>
> -P
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