PESO -- Connecticut Zen VI

2007-02-25 Thread P. J. Alling
Not quite the same Zen feeling of the rest of the series but I couldn't 
figure out what else to call it.

http://www.mindspring.com/~morephotos/PESO_--_connzenvi.html

Equipment:  Pentax *ist-D/w smc Pentax FA 70-210 f4-5.6

As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.

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Re: Ah ... a new lens

2007-02-25 Thread Boris Liberman
As you should know, enablement never stops ;-).

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
 Now if only they'd have updated the mount with Quickshift focusing...
 I agree: optically it is better than I'd expected. Very nice indeed.
 
 My lens kit is as complete as it's going to be.

Given your impression of formerly yours 77 Lim, I dare say that older 
Limited series are outstanding lenses that could and should be used on 
digital as well as on film ;-).

Have you played with 31 Limited?

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RE: PESO - The Wrong Back

2007-02-25 Thread Bob W
Nice picture - works for me.

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 Taken at the Taos Pueblo. When I went as a kid  with my 
 parents, lo, those 
 many long years ago, it was a working pueblo with  about 
 1,000 - 1,5000 
 residents. This time I asked at the front gate, and they  
 said 100 people are still 
 residents. But when I actually asked some Indians  inside 
 (they have little 
 shops), I only found one who actually lived there. Most  go 
 home at night, so 
 nowadays it's more a weekend pueblo. The main reason is  
 lack of electricity. 
 Once the Indians could move out and into town and have  
 electricity, and could 
 afford to move into town, there was a mass exodus.  
 Evidentially, sometime in 
 the early sixties.
 
 Okay, enough historical side  bar.
 
 When I first saw the back of the church there, I thought, 
 Aha, the  famous 
 back. But by the time I had taken about three photos I 
 realized it  wasn't. I 
 am pretty quick on the uptake, only takes me a few minutes. 
 :-) (That  church 
 is in town, not at the pueblo.) 
 
 I have ended up liking this more  and more. That is actually 
 an Indian woman 
 walking in the background. You are  not supposed to take 
 their photos without 
 permission, but it was really  accidental.
 
 http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/wrongback.htm
 
 However,  it's just sort of an okay photo, and I am not 
 totally sure it is 
 worth it.  
 
 So, comments, welcome.
 
 Marnie aka Doe :-)  
 
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Re: PESO - Lazy Afternoon

2007-02-25 Thread Cotty
On 24/2/07, Russell Kerstetter, discombobulated, unleashed:

Everything but the kitchen sink!

http://www.avocadohead.com/piclinks/IMGP2533.html

Thanks for looking.

Nice one Russell. I like the pattern and the contrast.

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Re: PESO - Lazy Afternoon II

2007-02-25 Thread Cotty
On 24/2/07, Russell Kerstetter, discombobulated, unleashed:

I couldn't decide between two, so I posted both!  Maybe you can help.

http://www.avocadohead.com/piclinks/IMGP2545.html

http://www.avocadohead.com/piclinks/IMGP2548.html


2545.


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Re: PESO - Sydney Harbour Pano

2007-02-25 Thread Cotty
On 24/2/07, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed:


Check out:
http://photography2.skofteland.net:8080/displayimage.php?pos=-68
(click the thumbnail for a bigger image  - warning 400kb)


VERY nice Christian. I like the subtle detail - the ship just coming
under the bridge. Nice light - very well done.


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Re: PESO -- Connecticut Zen VI

2007-02-25 Thread David Mann
On Feb 25, 2007, at 9:15 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

 Not quite the same Zen feeling of the rest of the series but I  
 couldn't
 figure out what else to call it.

 http://www.mindspring.com/~morephotos/PESO_--_connzenvi.html

The clouds at the top don't seem to work for me... they're not as  
sharply defined as the rest of the picture and look a bit blown out,  
and they're fighting for my attention against the footprints at the  
bottom.  I do like the row of smaller clouds just above the horizon  
though (I'm a big fan of subtle details like that).

I'd try cropping out the whole top half of the photo, leaving in as  
much as possible of the blank section of sky.

Just my opinion :)

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Re: PESO - Lazy Afternoon II

2007-02-25 Thread Peter Lacus
Russell,

 I couldn't decide between two, so I posted both!  Maybe you can help.
 
 http://www.avocadohead.com/piclinks/IMGP2545.html

that one looks better to me. However I have no clue what I'm looking at. :-)

Cheers,

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Re: PESO -- Connecticut Zen VI

2007-02-25 Thread Peter Lacus
Peter,

 Not quite the same Zen feeling of the rest of the series but I couldn't 
 figure out what else to call it.
 
 http://www.mindspring.com/~morephotos/PESO_--_connzenvi.html

very nice. Actually I like the whole Zen series, just haven't commented 
on them because I can't keep pace with the list one more time...

Cheers,

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Re: Semi-OT: Vivitar 258HV

2007-02-25 Thread Bruce Dayton
I just got back from shooting a wedding tonight and pretty much drained my
battery 2 with the AF400T on Auto-Red.  I use a Lumiquest Ultra Soft
Bounce that sucks up about 2 1/2- 3 stops of light, but does a very
good job of diffusing.  But it put a big drain on the battery with
that much flash punch.  Right now I am considering another battery 2
to have as a spare.  Tonight I could have used it.

Still thinking about the 540FGZ.

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Saturday, February 24, 2007, 10:03:34 AM, you wrote:

PS The recycle time for the 540 FGZ is fairly good with fresh batteries,
PS and since the Nimh maintain a good charge for quite a while that  
PS works okay. I tried it with AAs, and that was a no go. I'm probably
PS going to get the Pentax Power Pack III. Although right now, if I had
PS to shoot another wedding without the power pack, I'd probably go with
PS the AF 400T and the battery 2. There's nothing wrong with that  
PS combination, and while I can attest that the 540 FGZ provides good
PS exposures, the AF 400T on auto does rather well.
PS Paul
PS On Feb 24, 2007, at 12:40 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote:

 That is one big difference - I usually have to shoot some formal/posed
 shots where they are aware of the camera.  Sometimes I can use my
 studio lights, but sometimes I have to use flash.

 I'm certainly considering picking up a 540FGZ and trying it out.  I
 will need faster recycle times, however.

 -- 
 Bruce


 Saturday, February 24, 2007, 2:35:03 AM, you wrote:

 PS I've been using the Pentax 540 FGZP-TTL flash  on the K10D. I  
 shot a
 PS wedding (about 300 frames) without a single blink. I also shot
 that
 PS exercise class the other night, again without blinks. Exposures
 were
 PS good. However, I shoot mostly candids and rarely tell anyone to
 look
 PS at the camera.
 PS Paul
 PS On Feb 24, 2007, at 2:00 AM, Bruce Dayton wrote:

 My issue with the pre-flash technique is that people who tend to
 blink
 can be a real problem.  The pre-flash starts them into the blink and
 you end up with shots with their eyes not fully open.  I believe all
 brands have the same problem.

 For weddings I was shooting TTL with the *istD and now shooting Auto
 on the flash with the K10D - using my AF400T's for the time  
 being.  I
 use the AF360FGZ's during the day for daylight fill flash.

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 NW For you (other) manual camera fans who might not have seen this
 yet, I
 NW thought I'd mention that Vivitar has reintroduced their 285HV
 flash
 NW units. They are selling brand new for just under $100
 currently. And
 NW they have trigger voltages of less than 6 volts, which means
 they are
 NW safe to use on modern cameras too! Just got mine in the mail
 the other
 NW day. In fact, I was so fed up with Canon's crazy ETTL I sold my
 $300
 NW Canon unit the day I heard the 285s were back!

 NW And to put a vaguely Pentax spin on this post ... I'm curious if
 NW Pentax's PTTL system is any good? A quick scan through the
 archives
 NW found at least one person who wasn't so thrilled. I'd like to
 hear
 NW more. Thanks!

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Re: PESO - Sydney Harbour Pano

2007-02-25 Thread Peter Lacus
Christian,

 I shot a lot of frames on last year's Oz trip in the hopes of stitching 
 some panos.  I've struggled a lot with it until I found autopano 
 www.autopano.net  It really made it easier to put these things together.
 
 Check out:
 http://photography2.skofteland.net:8080/displayimage.php?pos=-68

very nice, saved me from trip to Sydney... ;-)

BTW have you been waiting for that ship under the bridge or it just 
happened?

Cheers,

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RE: Anti-warriors

2007-02-25 Thread Bob W
Thanks to everyone for the comments.

Yes, I used the E-1 and the 14-54 lens. I am very impressed with these
2 bits of kit - they feel very robust and trustworthy. The camera is
incredibly easy to use and works really well; the matrix metering
seems to be very reliable on the whole. 

The lens is very sharp. Its colour-handling is very good too, although
not in the same league as the way the Carl Zeiss lenses handle colour,
which are the best I've ever seen.

In one or two of the pictures the focal plane is not quite where I
would like it, but that's me being lazy and forgetful.

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 there was an anti-war demo in London today, so I photographed some
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 Excellent set mate - really well done. That with the Olly 
 E-1? Super job
 - if I was editing a paper I'd give you a job right now but 
 you wouldn't
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 Can't praise them enough. Superb presentation - so crisp and 
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Re: PESO - The Wrong Back

2007-02-25 Thread Peter Lacus
Marnie,

 http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/wrongback.htm

when I saw your picture my first thought was it must be Taos Pueblo. So 
apparently it works (I haven't been there). ;-)

May we see The Right Back now?

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Re: Home page?

2007-02-25 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Fri, 23 Feb 2007, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 My home page in the browser just loads the home page on my website. :-)

Mine does too. Check it out:

http://tinyurl.com/18r

Kostas

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Re: Home page?

2007-02-25 Thread David Savage
On 2/25/07, Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, 23 Feb 2007, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
  My home page in the browser just loads the home page on my website. :-)

 Mine does too. Check it out:

 http://tinyurl.com/18r

:-)

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RE 15mm SMC-Takumar (M42) on istDS, sample shot

2007-02-25 Thread Jens Bladt
Jco
Both the 15mm and the 20m seem very sharp to me. I guess the 15mm shot was
focused at the car though, not the brick wall.
It's apity the 15mm is so darnde expensive :-)
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Emne: RE: 15mm SMC-Takumar (M42) on istDS, sample shot


Since I mentioned it, heres one using
the SMC-K 20mm F4.0 :

http://jchriso.com/temp/20MMF4SMCKSAMPLE01.jpg


JCO
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I finally took a few test snapshots with
the 15mm F3.5 SMC Takumar (M42) lens
on the istDS.

http://jchriso.com/temp/15MMF35SMCTSAMPLE01.jpg

The image has been tweeked for perspective, distortion,
and CA slightly. Overall, no, it's not the sharpest lens in
the bag in this application but this
wasn't exactly unexpected considering
the huge angle this lens is designed
for. There is a bit more veiling flare than
I like too, but neither are so bad
that I am going to go plunge on a
new 14mm DA lens for now, as it's not a focal length
I would use very often I am sure and this
isn't really that bad in my honest opinion
if you have the time to tweek the results.

FWIW, I did notice my K20/4 is noticably both sharper and
shows less flare. Of course, the 20mm is not nearly
as wide as the 15mm is either on any camera!

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Re: Side-by-side 16-45 vs 16-50 lenses

2007-02-25 Thread Jan van Wijk
On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 23:20:03 +, Peter Lacus wrote:

 Interesting.  I hate the gold trim, 

Hmm, don't really mind, but could do without :-)

count me in, I wouldn't even hesitate to say it looks cheap. Also it 
doesn't look like internal focusing lens to me.

It IS internal focussing, but not internal-zooming.
So it extends when zooming from to 50.

(Which is a lot better than the other way round like the 16-45 :-)

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RE: PESO - Tullster, tBillhe Wonder Dog

2007-02-25 Thread Bill Owens
Thanks Brendan, you hot him well posed.  We have Ginger, who is mostly
Corgi, but has beagle ears.

Bill

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Subject: PESO - Tullster, the Wonder Dog

http://www.primelensphoto.com/dog/tully

Yes, I finally popped my cherry and posted three pix
of my dog.

But, in my defense, he's a Pembroke Welsh Corgi which
in the States aren't all too common (though they are
becoming more so) so some of you might get a kick out
of him. 

He's a great dog and he posed pretty well for me. See
if you agree.

Enjoy.

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Re: PESO - Sydney Harbour Pano

2007-02-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
Excellent work. I like this one a lot. I like the one from the balcony  
of the hotel even more. Great stuff. Looks like some wall hangings to  
me.
Paul
On Feb 24, 2007, at 11:14 PM, Christian wrote:

 Thanks, Brendan...  I got up just before sunrise to get down to Mrs.
 Macquerie's chair for the nice morning light.  I couldn't have asked  
 for
 better weather.

 Christian

 Brendan MacRae wrote:
 Nice one, Christian. Really good light at that time of
 day.

 I'm going to have to try the pano thing soon.

 -Brendan
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 Check out:

 http://photography2.skofteland.net:8080/displayimage.php?pos=-68
 (click the thumbnail for a bigger image  - warning
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 Alternative links:

 http://photography2.skofteland.net:8080/albums/userpics/10001/Pano- 
 IMG_567728web.jpg
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 http://tinyurl.com/yow465

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Re: PESO: Central Park in January

2007-02-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
Excellent. I miss the park. We used to take our kids there every 
weekend. In the summer we could count on half a dozen musicians, at 
least one steel-drum band, dozens of artists, the carousel, the zoo, 
and sometimes we'd end up at the Met. What more could one ask for?
Paul
On Feb 25, 2007, at 12:21 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

 I like the fixed version better than the one I saw previously, Ann.

 Though I can easily be persuaded to like any good NYC image. I really
 like the Big Apple ;-).

 Boris


 ann sanfedele wrote:
 The link formally known as central park in January is now:

 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5635299

 I fixed it per Godders suggestion - therefore giving it a new link.

 ann

 ann sanfedele wrote:


 Last month, that is - when it was Spring

 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5603827

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Re: PESO - Lazy Afternoon II

2007-02-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
Definitely the first one. It's a nicer composition. Good work.
Paul
On Feb 25, 2007, at 1:38 AM, Russell Kerstetter wrote:

 I couldn't decide between two, so I posted both!  Maybe you can help.

 http://www.avocadohead.com/piclinks/IMGP2545.html

 http://www.avocadohead.com/piclinks/IMGP2548.html

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Re: PESO -- Connecticut Zen VI

2007-02-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
This is an example of where splitting the frame with the horizon 
resulted in a nice composition. I like the gentle curve of the shore 
and the calm water in the lower half juxtaposed against the angry sky. 
Excellent conversion. BWR?
Paul
On Feb 25, 2007, at 3:15 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:

 Not quite the same Zen feeling of the rest of the series but I couldn't
 figure out what else to call it.

 http://www.mindspring.com/~morephotos/PESO_--_connzenvi.html

 Equipment:  Pentax *ist-D/w smc Pentax FA 70-210 f4-5.6

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Re: Readjustment of focus from camera body

2007-02-25 Thread Ken Takeshita
On 2/19/07, K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 BTW, it is rumoured that Canon are considering to make this a standard
 feature.
 Well, they need it.  Their Service depots are said to be inundated by focus
 adjustment :-).

The newly announced EOS-1D Mark III aparently has this function.  It
could be handy particularly those who use lenses wide open and need
critical focus.

http://www.canon-dslr.net/digi_bbs/wforum.cgi?mode=fullsizeno=44293

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Re: Semi-OT: Vivitar 258HV

2007-02-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
How many frames did you shoot with the Battery 2. I generally use mine 
the same way -- with a lumiquest bounce -- and I've never drained it 
completely. But I haven't shot a full wedding in decades. I think my 
most ambitious outing with flash has been around 300 frames. I'm also 
very careful to keep the battery conditioned. If I don't use it for a 
couple weeks, I put it on charge overnight anyway. It's a lead acid 
battery, so it's like a car battery. It needs frequent charging. Of 
course, any lead acid battery loses capacity over time.
Paul
On Feb 25, 2007, at 4:11 AM, Bruce Dayton wrote:

 I just got back from shooting a wedding tonight and pretty much 
 drained my
 battery 2 with the AF400T on Auto-Red.  I use a Lumiquest Ultra Soft
 Bounce that sucks up about 2 1/2- 3 stops of light, but does a very
 good job of diffusing.  But it put a big drain on the battery with
 that much flash punch.  Right now I am considering another battery 2
 to have as a spare.  Tonight I could have used it.

 Still thinking about the 540FGZ.

 -- 
 Bruce


 Saturday, February 24, 2007, 10:03:34 AM, you wrote:

 PS The recycle time for the 540 FGZ is fairly good with fresh 
 batteries,
 PS and since the Nimh maintain a good charge for quite a while that
 PS works okay. I tried it with AAs, and that was a no go. I'm probably
 PS going to get the Pentax Power Pack III. Although right now, if I 
 had
 PS to shoot another wedding without the power pack, I'd probably go 
 with
 PS the AF 400T and the battery 2. There's nothing wrong with that
 PS combination, and while I can attest that the 540 FGZ provides good
 PS exposures, the AF 400T on auto does rather well.
 PS Paul
 PS On Feb 24, 2007, at 12:40 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote:

 That is one big difference - I usually have to shoot some 
 formal/posed
 shots where they are aware of the camera.  Sometimes I can use my
 studio lights, but sometimes I have to use flash.

 I'm certainly considering picking up a 540FGZ and trying it out.  I
 will need faster recycle times, however.

 -- 
 Bruce


 Saturday, February 24, 2007, 2:35:03 AM, you wrote:

 PS I've been using the Pentax 540 FGZP-TTL flash  on the K10D. I
 shot a
 PS wedding (about 300 frames) without a single blink. I also shot
 that
 PS exercise class the other night, again without blinks. Exposures
 were
 PS good. However, I shoot mostly candids and rarely tell anyone to
 look
 PS at the camera.
 PS Paul
 PS On Feb 24, 2007, at 2:00 AM, Bruce Dayton wrote:

 My issue with the pre-flash technique is that people who tend to
 blink
 can be a real problem.  The pre-flash starts them into the blink 
 and
 you end up with shots with their eyes not fully open.  I believe 
 all
 brands have the same problem.

 For weddings I was shooting TTL with the *istD and now shooting 
 Auto
 on the flash with the K10D - using my AF400T's for the time
 being.  I
 use the AF360FGZ's during the day for daylight fill flash.

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 Friday, February 23, 2007, 7:46:31 PM, you wrote:

 NW For you (other) manual camera fans who might not have seen this
 yet, I
 NW thought I'd mention that Vivitar has reintroduced their 285HV
 flash
 NW units. They are selling brand new for just under $100
 currently. And
 NW they have trigger voltages of less than 6 volts, which means
 they are
 NW safe to use on modern cameras too! Just got mine in the mail
 the other
 NW day. In fact, I was so fed up with Canon's crazy ETTL I sold my
 $300
 NW Canon unit the day I heard the 285s were back!

 NW And to put a vaguely Pentax spin on this post ... I'm curious 
 if
 NW Pentax's PTTL system is any good? A quick scan through the
 archives
 NW found at least one person who wasn't so thrilled. I'd like to
 hear
 NW more. Thanks!

 NW --
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RE: GESO

2007-02-25 Thread Tim Øsleby
7 wow's ;-) 
Excelent work. 


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We've had a lot of thunderstorms in the last two weeks and I've spent a lot 
of time and effort trying to get some good lightning shots.  I've been 
frustrated by being in the wrong spot, just missing shots, having the wrong 
settings, etc.

Well, last night we had a ripper of a lightning display and I finally found 
myself in the right place at the right time and managed to grab six keepers!

I'm a happy man!

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comments, critiques...all welcome.

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RE: PESO - Soft Lights - GDG

2007-02-25 Thread Tim Øsleby
Marnie nailed my reactions here. 

I think Marnie is right, you shoot better listening to your gut, than you do
when using your intellectual self. It is nothing wrong with your intellect,
but it seems it isn't where you find your best shots. 


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In a message dated 2/22/2007 11:08:29 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 On Feb 17, 2007, at  2:43 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
 
 I enjoyed the PAW #6 photo  a lot ... enough that I assembled a little
 set of six images on the  theme. Thought you might like to see
 them ... these are presented  with the flash-based Autoviewer:

 http://www.gdgphoto.com/softlights/

 The prints are quite  lovely ... all on Velvet Fine Art paper in a
 very gentle warm  toning. :-)

 Comments, critique, and the usual flinging  of tomatoes always
 appreciated.

  enjoy,
 Godfrey

===
Uh. I didn't like the cupboard  one much in the first place. I think when
you 
first showed it someone said you  were trying too hard and I concur. What I 
mean is, *I* could shoot these. No  problemo. Going for the Zen, no
cluttered 
look, lots of white space, etc. I  really could shoot these. Lots of us
could.

To me, Godfrey, these come  too much from a mental space, too deliberate,
too 
cut and dried, and not from  your gut and I think you shoot better from your

gut. Unless, of course, you  never shoot from your gut. :-) But I suspect
that 
you do. Leave the mental  exercises for others, you do just fine shooting 
like you instead of shooting  like someone else.

Just my .02. This kind of advice is worth about that,  anyway.

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RE: PESO - dim bulb

2007-02-25 Thread Tim Øsleby
Cool

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Subject: PESO - dim bulb

The best of a few attempts at this.


http://www.primelensphoto.com/bulb.jpg

K10D + A*85mm f1.4, Av mode, ISO 100, f11, +2EV,
1/180, (2X)540 flashes + manual white balance.

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RE: PESO - Old Barn

2007-02-25 Thread Tim Øsleby
I think the busyness of the shot is what makes it. The two planks in lower
left, lead the eye towards the building, making a fine triangle. That's
good. 
I think I'd prefer the grass a bit lighter, but I'm looking at my laptop
screen, so don't take my word for it.


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Taken on the high road to Taos. I spotted this  barn, loved it, pulled off 
and spent about 5-10 minutes taking various shots. I  could easily have
spent 
30-45 minutes, but I was in rather a hurry.

I've  been playing with the BW conversion routine built-in to Elements 5, 
and  converting is not really my forte. I add my own fiddling to what is 
built-in, so  I'd appreciate any input on the BW  conversion.

http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/oldbarn.htm

I  think this is the best shot of what I got, okay, but a bit busy. I don't 
think I  ever got the best angle on it.

Comments, welcome.

Marnie aka Doe  :-)  

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RE: GESO: Snowdrops

2007-02-25 Thread Tim Øsleby
Sorry about my triple post, something is wrong here.


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I like the compositions, and the motif is sweet. 

But, the WB seems to be bouncing everywhere. At my (bad) CTR I find
different colour cast in every one of them. 

Besides this it is a sweet little gallery. 


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http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/sets/72157594540548807/

Comments are welcome
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RE: GESO: Snowdrops

2007-02-25 Thread Tom C
Sorry about my triple post, something is wrong here.


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Really? I thought it was just plain Norwegian. ;-)

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Re: PESO - Lazy Afternoon II

2007-02-25 Thread Tom C

On 24/2/07, Russell Kerstetter, discombobulated, unleashed:

 I couldn't decide between two, so I posted both!  Maybe you can help.
 
 http://www.avocadohead.com/piclinks/IMGP2545.html
 
 http://www.avocadohead.com/piclinks/IMGP2548.html


2545.


Cheers,
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2546.

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Re: No wireless flash mode on my K10D

2007-02-25 Thread David J Brooks
Anyone having success with the Sigma 500 DG Super in wireless.

Mine fires but the photos are poor.

Dave

On 2/24/07, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yes, now that you mention it, I finally had to go to my hand held
 magnifying glass to make it out clearly. I, also, gave up looking for
 it in the manual.

 Jack
 --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I finally got it working. Seems there's a little button on the bottom
 
  of the flash that is labeled M C S, where the flash can be changed
  from master to control or slave. The print in the LED window is so
  tiny my old eyes missed it. I didn't have it set on slave. The Pentax
 
  manual doesn't make that clear. In fact, I don't think it mentions
  it. But thanks to everyone for their help.
  Paul
  On Feb 24, 2007, at 6:11 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
 
   Just tried the 360 and it works with the little right edge sliding
   switch on either the white(ch. 1 )or down(slave) position.
  
   Jack
   --- George Sinos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Paul, I tried it on a 360 shortly after the upgrade and it seemed
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   work ok.
  
   I'm not near the equipment to double-check, but it seems like I
  set
   the camera flash to wireless mode and the 360 to slave mode.  The
   channel must have been ok, I didn't change it.
  
   I've been thinking of getting a 540 for the swivel head feature.
  
   GS
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RE: PESO - Lazy Afternoon II

2007-02-25 Thread Tom C
Hi Russ,

Definitely #1. Nice lighting, no distractions or clutter in the background.  
Nice photo.  Cyclamen? Slight crop on bottom?

Tom C.

I couldn't decide between two, so I posted both!  Maybe you can help.

http://www.avocadohead.com/piclinks/IMGP2545.html

http://www.avocadohead.com/piclinks/IMGP2548.html

Thanks for looking.

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Re: Semi-OT: Vivitar 258HV

2007-02-25 Thread David J Brooks
On 2/24/07, Brian Dunn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 So what can you do with these things?  Get several, set them all to an auto
 mode, add a trigger to each, and light up the room from many directions at
 once.

Humm. Good idea. I already have one, and am looking for something to
used in a store situation for people and pets during Xmas and all.

What would you be thinking of, flashes set on tripods with the off
camera flash shoe adatptors and a PC cable from the camera to the
flashes.(could these be used in a wireless trigger mode at all??)
Would you suggest using something like the better bounce card or
lumiquest diffusers and adjust exposure for that, or back wards into
an umbrella.

I hope, in May, to answer these and other light questions, as i have
found a night class in a Barrie Ontario CC, to learn portrait and
studio lighting.
From what i have heard from someone i sort know who took it last fall,
is its pretty layed back, and he'll show you what ever each person is
interested in. I think this will be $150 well spent.

Dave Brooks

 Compared to an expensive flash unit, you could get one of these and use the
 rest of the money for a nice lens.

 You can take them with you if you ever switch brands.

 The 383 in particular is very compact for its power.  It also has a full set
 of manual power levels so you can use it in a studio for a hair or rim light.
 The 285 has one less power level setting but is also useful in the studio.

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RE: Pentax 645 + Carl Ziess Jena lenses?

2007-02-25 Thread Jens Bladt
Ralf, judging from your website, you are a Kiev user, rather than a Pentacon
Six user right?
RegardsP


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 Have any of you guys experiences with this?
 I'm thinking about getting a 645 body for my excellent Pentacon Six lenses
 (CZ Jena and Schneider-Kreuznach).

Not with the Pentax 645 but I had a Mamiya 645 Pro for a time and used
my Zeiss Jena lenses on it with an adaptor supplied by...

http://www.baierfoto.de/#english

They also have one for the Pentax 645. Works fine if you don't mind the
loss of the auto diaphragm. I eventually sold the 645 because I'm more
comfortable with the square 6x6 format.

I'm still using my P6 lenses, especially the 4/300 mm lens, with a
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Re: RE 15mm SMC-Takumar (M42) on istDS, sample shot

2007-02-25 Thread John Whittingham
On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 12:25:11 +0100, Jens Bladt wrote
 Jco
 Both the 15mm and the 20m seem very sharp to me. I guess the 15mm 
 shot was focused at the car though, not the brick wall. It's apity 
 the 15mm is so darnde expensive :-) Regards Jens Bladt Nytarkort / 
 Greeting Card: http://www.jensbladt.dk/godtnytaar2007/lydshow.html
 
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 Mail List' Emne: RE: 15mm SMC-Takumar (M42) on istDS, sample shot
 
 Since I mentioned it, heres one using
 the SMC-K 20mm F4.0 :
 
 http://jchriso.com/temp/20MMF4SMCKSAMPLE01.jpg
 
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 sample shot
 
 I finally took a few test snapshots with
 the 15mm F3.5 SMC Takumar (M42) lens
 on the istDS.
 
 http://jchriso.com/temp/15MMF35SMCTSAMPLE01.jpg
 
 The image has been tweeked for perspective, distortion,
 and CA slightly. Overall, no, it's not the sharpest lens in
 the bag in this application but this
 wasn't exactly unexpected considering
 the huge angle this lens is designed
 for. There is a bit more veiling flare than
 I like too, but neither are so bad
 that I am going to go plunge on a
 new 14mm DA lens for now, as it's not a focal length
 I would use very often I am sure and this
 isn't really that bad in my honest opinion
 if you have the time to tweek the results.
 
 FWIW, I did notice my K20/4 is noticably both sharper and
 shows less flare. Of course, the 20mm is not nearly
 as wide as the 15mm is either on any camera!
 
 jco

I have to agree there, both images look sharp to my eye, but it's hard to 
tell with web based images. I'm going to give my K 18/3.5 some use shortly to 
see how it compares with the DA 18-55 if it's better then the zoom may have 
to go, I'll end up carrying a bag of primes, including the K 18mm and Sigma 
24mm manual focus.

Thanks for posting those images John, much appreciated.

Regards,

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Re: Semi-OT: Vivitar 258HV

2007-02-25 Thread Bong Manayon
Btw, where do I find the new 285? Adorama list one as a new item, do
I assume that's new or just new old stock? :-\

On 2/24/07, Nick Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 thought I'd mention that Vivitar has reintroduced their 285HV flash
 units. They are selling brand new for just under $100 currently. And
 they have trigger voltages of less than 6 volts, which means they are
 safe to use on modern cameras too! Just got mine in the mail the other
 day. In fact, I was so fed up with Canon's crazy ETTL I sold my $300
 Canon unit the day I heard the 285s were back!

 And to put a vaguely Pentax spin on this post ... I'm curious if
 Pentax's PTTL system is any good? A quick scan through the archives
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Re: Peso No Service

2007-02-25 Thread David J Brooks
Thanks Marnie and Norm et all.

I want to reshoot this from other angles, but like i mentioned, it was
a bad day for windchill and my hands were pretty cold by the time i
put the film camera away and brought out the K10.

Dave

On 2/24/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In a message dated 2/22/2007 9:23:12 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  writes:
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5630338

 Shot this  last Sunday. Man the wind was cold.:-)

 This is an abandoned Mennonite  Church, built around 1860's. Back in
 the early 70's the government of Canada  expropriated  a huge amount of
 land, to build an airport East of  Toronto. Public expression was
 great, and the deal cancelled, however non of  the land owners got the
 property back. Many houses and buildings were boarded  up or rented
 out. Many have been contemned since and will be torn  down.
 Last services were held in 1974.

 I hate to admit this, but i was  invloved wth the survey of the lands,
 but was glad the airport was shut  down.

 Submitting this as a sad state of affairs in southern  Ontario.

 Enjoy.

 K10D, Zenitar 16mm f2.8 dng converted to tiff,  auto levels and
 sharpened.I now the big headstone is a distraction, but i'll  go back
 for a resoot soon. Not a lot of places to shoot this with out crap  in
 the way.

 Dave

 =
 Huh. Interesting shot. But my  feeling is it's not as good as it could be.
 Another angle, or closer or  something would be a bit more intriguing I would
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Re: PESO - The Wrong Back

2007-02-25 Thread ann sanfedele
I've photo'ed that chruch too, before there was a restriction on asking 
permission.

I think yours cries out for conver to black and white - which will 
emphasize the
story there -

The last time I was actually at the pueblo was 1994 - I was driving my 
ex boss at
general Electric and her mom around the southwest as a kind of a tour 
guide.  So we had to go...
but it was very sad to see.

I lived in Taos for almost 3 months in 1956 and didn't go to the pueblo 
at all then because I thought
it was rude to go and gape . 19 years old and idealistic.

ann
(you can tell I jsut woke up - i'm running off at the keybaord)

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Taken at the Taos Pueblo. When I went as a kid  with my parents, lo, those 
many long years ago, it was a working pueblo with  about 1,000 - 1,5000 
residents. This time I asked at the front gate, and they  said 100 people are 
still 
residents. But when I actually asked some Indians  inside (they have little 
shops), I only found one who actually lived there. Most  go home at night, so 
nowadays it's more a weekend pueblo. The main reason is  lack of 
electricity. 
Once the Indians could move out and into town and have  electricity, and could 
afford to move into town, there was a mass exodus.  Evidentially, sometime in 
the early sixties.

Okay, enough historical side  bar.

When I first saw the back of the church there, I thought, Aha, the  famous 
back. But by the time I had taken about three photos I realized it  wasn't. I 
am pretty quick on the uptake, only takes me a few minutes. :-) (That  church 
is in town, not at the pueblo.) 

I have ended up liking this more  and more. That is actually an Indian woman 
walking in the background. You are  not supposed to take their photos without 
permission, but it was really  accidental.

http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/wrongback.htm

However,  it's just sort of an okay photo, and I am not totally sure it is 
worth it.  

So, comments, welcome.

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Re: Semi-OT: Vivitar 258HV

2007-02-25 Thread Nick Wright
Bong, the one at Adorama marked new ought to be new.

David, if you haven't seen this blog yet, you ought to go over to
strobist.com and check it out.

The entire site is dedicated to using small shoe-mount flash units
off-camera for studio light-like effect. Get some light stands and
umbrellas and have fun! Strobist insists the best way to do it is with
PocketWizard radio triggers, but at $300 each pocketwizards are
pricey. What I've done along this vein so far has been with one flash
on a PC cord and the other one using a Wein sync peanut.

On 2/25/07, Bong Manayon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Btw, where do I find the new 285? Adorama list one as a new item, do
 I assume that's new or just new old stock? :-\

 On 2/24/07, Nick Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  For you (other) manual camera fans who might not have seen this yet, I
  thought I'd mention that Vivitar has reintroduced their 285HV flash
  units. They are selling brand new for just under $100 currently. And
  they have trigger voltages of less than 6 volts, which means they are
  safe to use on modern cameras too! Just got mine in the mail the other
  day. In fact, I was so fed up with Canon's crazy ETTL I sold my $300
  Canon unit the day I heard the 285s were back!
 
  And to put a vaguely Pentax spin on this post ... I'm curious if
  Pentax's PTTL system is any good? A quick scan through the archives
  found at least one person who wasn't so thrilled. I'd like to hear
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Re: PESO: Central Park in January

2007-02-25 Thread ann sanfedele
Boris Liberman wrote:

I like the fixed version better than the one I saw previously, Ann.

Well you had better! Har!

The unfixed version was an accident - when Godders wrote his critique I 
had to go and look again
at the file on line to see what he was talking about because I had just 
made a print from the TIF
that looked fine I screwed up something in the conversion to the 
save for web, I think...


Though I can easily be persuaded to like any good NYC image. I really 
like the Big Apple ;-).

Boris
  

me too

ann


ann sanfedele wrote:
  

The link formally known as central park in January is now:

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5635299

I fixed it per Godders suggestion - therefore giving it a new link.

ann



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Last month, that is - when it was Spring

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Re: Semi-OT: Vivitar 258HV

2007-02-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
I don't think you should try hooking more than one directly to the 
camera. Do they have a slave mode? You could run one off the camera and 
the others as slaves. If not, you can buy very inexpensive slave 
triggers. I also think it would be impossible to get accurate exposures 
with multiple flashes in auto mode. Use them in manual mode and set 
your exposure with a flash meter. (Or with trial and error on digital.) 
By the time you're through, however, you might have spent enough to get 
two good 300 watt second monolights and umbrellas. Sometimes it pays to 
do things right the first time.
Paul
On Feb 25, 2007, at 9:09 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

 On 2/24/07, Brian Dunn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 So what can you do with these things?  Get several, set them all to 
 an auto
 mode, add a trigger to each, and light up the room from many 
 directions at
 once.

 Humm. Good idea. I already have one, and am looking for something to
 used in a store situation for people and pets during Xmas and all.

 What would you be thinking of, flashes set on tripods with the off
 camera flash shoe adatptors and a PC cable from the camera to the
 flashes.(could these be used in a wireless trigger mode at all??)
 Would you suggest using something like the better bounce card or
 lumiquest diffusers and adjust exposure for that, or back wards into
 an umbrella.

 I hope, in May, to answer these and other light questions, as i have
 found a night class in a Barrie Ontario CC, to learn portrait and
 studio lighting.
 From what i have heard from someone i sort know who took it last fall,
 is its pretty layed back, and he'll show you what ever each person is
 interested in. I think this will be $150 well spent.

 Dave Brooks

 Compared to an expensive flash unit, you could get one of these and 
 use the
 rest of the money for a nice lens.

 You can take them with you if you ever switch brands.

 The 383 in particular is very compact for its power.  It also has a 
 full set
 of manual power levels so you can use it in a studio for a hair or 
 rim light.
 The 285 has one less power level setting but is also useful in the 
 studio.

 Use NiMH batteries.


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Re: PESO - The Wrong Back

2007-02-25 Thread ann sanfedele
She showed us the right one a while ago, Peter :)  
skim list like I do do ya?
ann

Peter Lacus wrote:

Marnie,

  

http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/wrongback.htm



when I saw your picture my first thought was it must be Taos Pueblo. So 
apparently it works (I haven't been there). ;-)

May we see The Right Back now?

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Re: DA* instead of DFA* : an idea why ?

2007-02-25 Thread Mark Roberts
Adam Maas wrote:

The sort of people who will continue to shoot 35mm (and I'm one 
of them) are also the sort who is likely to stick to manual focus SLR 
and rangefinder gear for the most part, and enjoys working with the 
less automated gear and film.

Interesting point. I know I sold off my MZ-S but kept my MX and K2.

But it seems that no one's *making* manual focus 35mm SLR gear any more 
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Re: Semi-OT: Vivitar 258HV

2007-02-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
Any flash with the HV designation is the newer version. It was 
introduced about fifteen years ago.
Paul
On Feb 25, 2007, at 9:23 AM, Bong Manayon wrote:

 Btw, where do I find the new 285? Adorama list one as a new item, do
 I assume that's new or just new old stock? :-\

 On 2/24/07, Nick Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 For you (other) manual camera fans who might not have seen this yet, I
 thought I'd mention that Vivitar has reintroduced their 285HV flash
 units. They are selling brand new for just under $100 currently. And
 they have trigger voltages of less than 6 volts, which means they are
 safe to use on modern cameras too! Just got mine in the mail the other
 day. In fact, I was so fed up with Canon's crazy ETTL I sold my $300
 Canon unit the day I heard the 285s were back!

 And to put a vaguely Pentax spin on this post ... I'm curious if
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Re: PESO - Old Barn

2007-02-25 Thread ann sanfedele
Boris Liberman wrote:

Marnie,

First of, the bottom left corner is slightly distracting. As for the 
conversion - I see nothing particularly wrong with it. I'd add a word 
about my own taste on b/w if you don't mind. I usually add a bit of a 
warm/sepia tone on top of my b/w conversions. For some reason I really 
like warmish b/w renderings. Could be an interesting exercise, because 
when you apply a warm tone, you may suddenly notice certain things 
about tonality that did not catch your eye in plain b/w variety.

Just my pixels worth...

Boris
  

I'm not crazy about sepia, myself, but I've used it for black and white 
I was printing with the
Epson 820 when I had it because i couldn't get a good black but it 
did brown ok :)

ann  


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Taken on the high road to Taos. I spotted this  barn, loved it, pulled off 
and spent about 5-10 minutes taking various shots. I  could easily have spent 
30-45 minutes, but I was in rather a hurry.

I've  been playing with the BW conversion routine built-in to Elements 5, 
and  converting is not really my forte. I add my own fiddling to what is 
built-in, so  I'd appreciate any input on the BW  conversion.

http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/oldbarn.htm

I  think this is the best shot of what I got, okay, but a bit busy. I don't 
think I  ever got the best angle on it.

Comments, welcome.

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Pentax digital medium format

2007-02-25 Thread Nick Wright
According to DPreview.com Pentax is going to exhibit the digi-MF at PMA:

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0702/07022501pentaxatpma2007.asp

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Re: PESO - Lazy Afternoon II

2007-02-25 Thread Jack Davis
Prefer the first. In this case, I felt I wanted to center the blossoms
even though the lower right leaf would be partially cropped.
Very nice mood.

Jack
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Re: PESO - dim bulb

2007-02-25 Thread ann sanfedele


http://www.primelensphoto.com/bulb.jpg

K10D  + A*85mm f1.4, Av mode, ISO 100, f11, +2EV,
1/180, (2X)540 flashes + manual  white balance.

Comments  welcome.

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Ok-  how did you do that?  
I missed looking at it for a while - then read through a bunch of posts 
hoping to see that you revealed.

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Re: PESO: Central Park in January

2007-02-25 Thread ann sanfedele
Paul Stenquist wrote:

Excellent. I miss the park. We used to take our kids there every 
weekend. In the summer we could count on half a dozen musicians, at 
least one steel-drum band, dozens of artists, the carousel, the zoo, 
and sometimes we'd end up at the Met. What more could one ask for?
Paul

It doesn't have the same feel to it anymore, Paul
You have to pay to get into the zoo now, for one thing.  in 1967 in good 
weather we used to go up to
the zoo cafe early on Sunday morning with the NY Times and sit at the 
picnic tables outside to get out
of our one room without bath rooming house digs.  

sigh
ann

On Feb 25, 2007, at 12:21 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

  

I like the fixed version better than the one I saw previously, Ann.

Though I can easily be persuaded to like any good NYC image. I really
like the Big Apple ;-).

Boris


ann sanfedele wrote:


The link formally known as central park in January is now:

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5635299

I fixed it per Godders suggestion - therefore giving it a new link.

ann

  

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Re: PESO - The Wrong Back

2007-02-25 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/24/2007 8:32:38 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Sure would like to see much  more of what's attached to the wrong
back. I'm intrigued by what may lie  beyond the corner, but I'm missing
its contribution to the  scene.
Composition works and love the  palette.

Jack


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I'll through up a Taos gallery at  some point, including more of the pueblo 
and the the right back.  :-)

Okay, you feel it doesn't have enough info. Got that.

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Re: PESO - The Wrong Back

2007-02-25 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/24/2007 8:06:47 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Nice composition, it  looks iconic.  Unfortunately it seems to be lacking 
something in spite  of that. No idea what that might be, just leaves me 
wishing for more,  somehow.


-
Okay, like I said, wasn't sure about  this one. And that is something I sort 
of feel too. But not  completely.

Thanks, for your input, Peter.

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Re: PESO - The Wrong Back

2007-02-25 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/25/2007 12:27:57 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Nice picture - works for  me.

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Re: PESO - Dawn

2007-02-25 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/24/2007 10:03:38 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Thanks.  :-) Actually  I think it is correct.  Even though the cloud banks 
bottom edge is not  perfectly horizontal... I may try a rotate... but cloud 
banks don't always  follow the rules and the mountains, though hard to tell 
in the photo are  actually receding, the further left one moves through the 
scene.

Tom  C.

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But a  rotation might not hurt anyway, since our eye tends to like horizontal 
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Re: PESO - Old Barn

2007-02-25 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/25/2007 5:53:48 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I think the busyness of the  shot is what makes it. The two planks in lower
left, lead the eye towards the  building, making a fine triangle. That's
good. 
I think I'd prefer the  grass a bit lighter, but I'm looking at my laptop
screen, so don't take my  word for it.


Tim Typo
Mostly harmless (just plain  Norwegian)

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Re: PESO - Old Barn

2007-02-25 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/24/2007 9:33:50 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Marnie,

First of, the  bottom left corner is slightly distracting. As for the 
conversion - I see  nothing particularly wrong with it. I'd add a word 
about my own taste on b/w  if you don't mind. I usually add a bit of a 
warm/sepia tone on top of my b/w  conversions. For some reason I really 
like warmish b/w renderings. Could be  an interesting exercise, because 
when you apply a warm tone, you may  suddenly notice certain things 
about tonality that did not catch your eye  in plain b/w variety.

Just my pixels  worth...

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Re: PESO - The Wrong Back

2007-02-25 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/25/2007 6:42:49 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I've photo'ed that chruch  too, before there was a restriction on asking 
permission.

I think  yours cries out for conver to black and white - which will 
emphasize  the
story there -

The last time I was actually at the pueblo was 1994  - I was driving my 
ex boss at
general Electric and her mom around the  southwest as a kind of a tour 
guide.  So we had to go...
but it was  very sad to see.

I lived in Taos for almost 3 months in 1956 and didn't  go to the pueblo 
at all then because I thought
it was rude to go and gape  . 19 years old and idealistic.

ann

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Well, once upon  a time, when I was a kid anyway, they closed off the 
sections that were heavily  lived in and you were limited to only more open 
sections 
of the  pueblo.

And before casinos, tourism and selling jewelry and such, was  their major 
source of income. Selling jewelry and stuff -- they still make money  on that. 
But when I was there I talked to sort of a gallery owner, and he said  most 
like working in casinos now and it's hard to get young Indians to take up  
producing art. (Indian art is protected by state laws, one can't sell Indian  
Art u
nless it is actually made by Indians. They had just busted a ring of  Indians 
(eastern-style, i.e. next to Pakistan) that was cranking out art, the  
previous year.) 

Still I did see a lot of Indian art there in galleries.  High priced. 
However, I deliberately bought a few things at the pueblo and at  the 
Governor's 
Gallery in Santa Fe (where they sit on blankets), so they would  get the total 
profit and not have to give a gallery a commission. Also those  were the ones 
that were really doing it full time and more seriously. At least  it looked 
that 
way.

Okay, I think, from reactions this picture would work  best in a gallery, but 
not as a standalone.

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Re: No wireless flash mode on my K10D

2007-02-25 Thread Thibouille
AFAIK the Sigma 500 does not support wireless with K10D.

2007/2/25, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Anyone having success with the Sigma 500 DG Super in wireless.

 Mine fires but the photos are poor.

 Dave

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  Yes, now that you mention it, I finally had to go to my hand held
  magnifying glass to make it out clearly. I, also, gave up looking for
  it in the manual.
 
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   I finally got it working. Seems there's a little button on the bottom
  
   of the flash that is labeled M C S, where the flash can be changed
   from master to control or slave. The print in the LED window is so
   tiny my old eyes missed it. I didn't have it set on slave. The Pentax
  
   manual doesn't make that clear. In fact, I don't think it mentions
   it. But thanks to everyone for their help.
   Paul
   On Feb 24, 2007, at 6:11 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
  
Just tried the 360 and it works with the little right edge sliding
switch on either the white(ch. 1 )or down(slave) position.
   
Jack
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Paul, I tried it on a 360 shortly after the upgrade and it seemed
   to
work ok.
   
I'm not near the equipment to double-check, but it seems like I
   set
the camera flash to wireless mode and the 360 to slave mode.  The
channel must have been ok, I didn't change it.
   
I've been thinking of getting a 540 for the swivel head feature.
   
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At least not with the built in flash and the 540 FGZ. I have the
firmware upgrade. I've tried everything and every variation
thereof.
Just doesn't work. I doubt that I'll send it in for repair. Don't
really need it, but I thought I might use it instead of an
extension
cable with my stroboframe. Guess not.
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Re: PESO - The Wrong Back

2007-02-25 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/25/2007 1:54:05 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Marnie,

  http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/wrongback.htm

when I saw your  picture my first thought was it must be Taos Pueblo. So 
apparently it works  (I haven't been there). ;-)

May we see The Right Back  now?

Cheers,

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Re: Ah ... a new lens

2007-02-25 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Feb 25, 2007, at 12:18 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

 Have you played with 31 Limited?

I owned the 31 Limited first. Nice imaging qualities (but some  
annoying flare), irritatingly stupid fixed lens hood, awkward lens  
cap, big and heavy. Not enough of an improvement in imaging and too  
annoying in size and weight, with that hood, compared the FA35/2 AL  
to warrant a 3x price tag, IMO.

That's why I sold it.

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Re: Pentax 645 + Carl Ziess Jena lenses?

2007-02-25 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
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 Ralf, judging from your website, you are a Kiev user, rather than a Pentacon
 Six user right?

Correct. For the reasons explained there I'm using the Zeiss/Pentacon
lenses on a modified Kiev 60 (MLU, Rollei screen, mirror box flocking
etc.).

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Re: Semi-OT: Vivitar 258HV

2007-02-25 Thread Nick Wright
Paul, they were discontinued and then reintroduced a couple months back.

The 285HVs do not have built in slave triggers. But the Wein peanuts
can plug straight into the socket in the flash's foot. So I've heard
anyway, haven't tried it myself yet.

On 2/25/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I don't think you should try hooking more than one directly to the
 camera. Do they have a slave mode? You could run one off the camera and
 the others as slaves. If not, you can buy very inexpensive slave
 triggers. I also think it would be impossible to get accurate exposures
 with multiple flashes in auto mode. Use them in manual mode and set
 your exposure with a flash meter. (Or with trial and error on digital.)
 By the time you're through, however, you might have spent enough to get
 two good 300 watt second monolights and umbrellas. Sometimes it pays to
 do things right the first time.
 Paul
 On Feb 25, 2007, at 9:09 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

  On 2/24/07, Brian Dunn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  So what can you do with these things?  Get several, set them all to
  an auto
  mode, add a trigger to each, and light up the room from many
  directions at
  once.
 
  Humm. Good idea. I already have one, and am looking for something to
  used in a store situation for people and pets during Xmas and all.
 
  What would you be thinking of, flashes set on tripods with the off
  camera flash shoe adatptors and a PC cable from the camera to the
  flashes.(could these be used in a wireless trigger mode at all??)
  Would you suggest using something like the better bounce card or
  lumiquest diffusers and adjust exposure for that, or back wards into
  an umbrella.
 
  I hope, in May, to answer these and other light questions, as i have
  found a night class in a Barrie Ontario CC, to learn portrait and
  studio lighting.
  From what i have heard from someone i sort know who took it last fall,
  is its pretty layed back, and he'll show you what ever each person is
  interested in. I think this will be $150 well spent.
 
  Dave Brooks
 
  Compared to an expensive flash unit, you could get one of these and
  use the
  rest of the money for a nice lens.
 
  You can take them with you if you ever switch brands.
 
  The 383 in particular is very compact for its power.  It also has a
  full set
  of manual power levels so you can use it in a studio for a hair or
  rim light.
  The 285 has one less power level setting but is also useful in the
  studio.
 
  Use NiMH batteries.
 
 
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Re: PESO - Old Barn

2007-02-25 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/25/2007 6:57:09 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'm not crazy about sepia,  myself, but I've used it for black and white 
I was printing with  the
Epson 820 when I had it because i couldn't get a good black but it  
did brown ok :)

ann 
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Although  I've seen others on this list used it effectively. Depends on the 
shot, I  guess.

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RE: GESO: Snowdrops

2007-02-25 Thread Tim Øsleby
Ok, let me rephrase. Something is wrong, besides being plain Norwegian ;-) 


Tim Typo
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 

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Sent: 25. februar 2007 15:09
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Sorry about my triple post, something is wrong here.


Tim Typo
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)


Really? I thought it was just plain Norwegian. ;-)

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Re: PESO -- Connecticut Zen VI

2007-02-25 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/25/2007 12:18:46 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Not quite the same  Zen feeling of the rest of the series but I couldn't 
figure out what else to  call  it.

http://www.mindspring.com/~morephotos/PESO_--_connzenvi.html

Equipment:   Pentax *ist-D/w smc Pentax FA 70-210 f4-5.6

As usual comments are welcome  but may be totally ignored.

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Not bad, Peter, but I find it  too evenly balanced top and bottom, like two 
pictures. That is not to say I  don't like it, but I do find that part 
distracting.

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Re: PESO - Lazy Afternoon II

2007-02-25 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/24/2007 10:40:02 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I couldn't decide  between two, so I posted both!  Maybe you can  help.

http://www.avocadohead.com/piclinks/IMGP2545.html

http://www.avocadohead.com/piclinks/IMGP2548.html

Thanks  for looking.

Russ


That's rather nice, the  abstraction. I like the first better, more 
abstraction. Rather cool, most people  don't think of doing that, shooting when 
there 
is a lot of shadow and leaving  the shadow. Well done.

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OT: Jeff Wall in the NY Times Sunday Magazine

2007-02-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
If you can find a Sunday NY Times, you're in for a special treat. It  
includes a long article about Jeff Wall. For those unfamiliar with  
his work, he produces huge photographs on large format film. Many are  
backlit transparencies, measuring 8 x 12 feet and even larger. Some  
are silver prints of similar dimension. Much of his recent work is  
staged street photography. For example, he spent over six months  
shooting a scene of young people on the sidewalk in front of a night  
club. When he couldn't find a good camera position at the actual  
location, he built a duplicate of the scene in a studio, hired extras  
to play the part of the young people, and recreated the original  
vision. He strives to bring the detail and dimensions of large format  
and huge displays to street-style subject matter.  In his entire  
career he has only completed somewhere around 130 photographs I  
believe. They sell for about a million dollars apiece through his  
gallery. That being said, I found the reproductions in the Times to  
range from very ordinary to interesting. However, I suppose reducing  
that kind of work to newsprint in a little square is cruelly  
debilitating. The author notes that photography has come out of the  
basement in the world of art museums. And prices at auction for  
photographs have skyrocketed in recent years, while those for  
paintings have risen only modestly. On the other hand, he  
demonstrates a lack of real knowledge here and there. For example,  
when discussing how typical street photography is more blurred and  
grainy, he mentions Weegee and HCB in the same sentence. Apparently,  
unaware that the work of the two is totally different, and of course  
Weegee's documentary photography is anything but blurred and grainy.  
That being said, it's a good read. Don't know if it's on the web.
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PESO Playing from the fire hazard

2007-02-25 Thread David J Brooks
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5642056

A shot from Saturdays anuall snowgolf day. We came in second last.
Goal is not to finish last, not first.LOL

About 1/2 way around the course we have a warm up fire going. My shot
and two others from our foursome landed in or on the edge.

We play best ball, and mine was on the edge.

This is Jim, using a cut down hockey stick, to flick the ball to the
cup. Best way to play this game is use an iron on the fairway and the
stick to flick into the cup.

istD, A 28 f 1.8 jpeg mode, with +0.3 EV, Lightroom adjustment for
shadows.Exported as a jpeg then sharpened and SFW as sRGB.

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Re: Ah ... a new lens

2007-02-25 Thread Boris Liberman
I see... Indeed it escaped my mind (or actually memory) that you had
31 Limited. In fact, it is fast (f 1.8) and I find it just right for
K10D (without a grip). Though I agree with you about the hood and
hence rather strange lens cap. I did not have a chance to use FA 35/2
AL though. Although I admit that having 43 Lim, the idea of 35 mm
seems just a bit redundant - the difference in FOV is there, but it is
not that big.

My (black) 31 Limited never flared yet. I shall be more aware that it
may flare, 'cause you say you had experienced it.

Cheers!

Boris


On 2/25/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Feb 25, 2007, at 12:18 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

  Have you played with 31 Limited?

 I owned the 31 Limited first. Nice imaging qualities (but some
 annoying flare), irritatingly stupid fixed lens hood, awkward lens
 cap, big and heavy. Not enough of an improvement in imaging and too
 annoying in size and weight, with that hood, compared the FA35/2 AL
 to warrant a 3x price tag, IMO.

 That's why I sold it.

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Re: No wireless flash mode on my K10D

2007-02-25 Thread David J Brooks
It does, or atleast is supposed to with the upgrade and new firm war
for the K10.

I can get it to fire, but as i say, the results are poor.The results
as a on camera flash, after upgrade are also sporatic.

Dave

On 2/25/07, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 AFAIK the Sigma 500 does not support wireless with K10D.

 2007/2/25, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Anyone having success with the Sigma 500 DG Super in wireless.
 
  Mine fires but the photos are poor.
 
  Dave
 
  On 2/24/07, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Yes, now that you mention it, I finally had to go to my hand held
   magnifying glass to make it out clearly. I, also, gave up looking for
   it in the manual.
  
   Jack
   --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
I finally got it working. Seems there's a little button on the bottom
   
of the flash that is labeled M C S, where the flash can be changed
from master to control or slave. The print in the LED window is so
tiny my old eyes missed it. I didn't have it set on slave. The Pentax
   
manual doesn't make that clear. In fact, I don't think it mentions
it. But thanks to everyone for their help.
Paul
On Feb 24, 2007, at 6:11 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
   
 Just tried the 360 and it works with the little right edge sliding
 switch on either the white(ch. 1 )or down(slave) position.

 Jack
 --- George Sinos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Paul, I tried it on a 360 shortly after the upgrade and it seemed
to
 work ok.

 I'm not near the equipment to double-check, but it seems like I
set
 the camera flash to wireless mode and the 360 to slave mode.  The
 channel must have been ok, I didn't change it.

 I've been thinking of getting a 540 for the swivel head feature.

 GS
 http://georgesphotos.net

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 At least not with the built in flash and the 540 FGZ. I have the
 firmware upgrade. I've tried everything and every variation
 thereof.
 Just doesn't work. I doubt that I'll send it in for repair. Don't
 really need it, but I thought I might use it instead of an
 extension
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Re: PESO - Snow Melt

2007-02-25 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/24/2007 10:35:24 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Nothing  remarkable, but I like the  reflections.

http://www.avocadohead.com/piclinks/IMGP2523.html

Thanks  for looking.

Russ
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Re: PESO - Snow Melt

2007-02-25 Thread Russell Kerstetter
Thanks for looking Marnie!

Russ

On 2/25/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In a message dated 2/24/2007 10:35:24 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time,
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 Nothing  remarkable, but I like the  reflections.

 http://www.avocadohead.com/piclinks/IMGP2523.html

 Thanks  for looking.

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Re: GESO: Snowdrops

2007-02-25 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/24/2007 7:27:00 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I like the compositions, and  the motif is sweet. 

But, the WB seems to be bouncing everywhere. At my  (bad) CTR I find
different colour cast in every one of them. 

Besides  this it is a sweet little gallery. 


Tim
Mostly harmless (just  plain Norwegian)

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Subject: GESO:  Snowdrops

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/sets/72157594540548807/

Comments  are welcome
Jens Bladt


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I suspect you were playing  with different lighting.

I like the first one and the close-up, and I  like the close-up the best.

Nice.

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Re: PESO - Lazy Afternoon II

2007-02-25 Thread Russell Kerstetter
On 2/24/07, Russell Kerstetter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I couldn't decide between two, so I posted both!  Maybe you can help.

 http://www.avocadohead.com/piclinks/IMGP2545.html

 http://www.avocadohead.com/piclinks/IMGP2548.html

Thanks all for looking.  Yes it is a cyclamen, however if you had just
asked what it was, I would have had to run down-stairs to look :)
Tom, I didn't know if you you were asking or telling about cropping
the bottom, and no it is not cropped, but for you and Jack I have
worked up a new crop.  Thanks Cotty, Peter, Paul and Marnie for your
comments.

new crop -- http://www.avocadohead.com/piclinks/spare.html

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Re: PESO: Central Park in January

2007-02-25 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/24/2007 8:58:54 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The link formally known as  central park in January is  now:

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5635299

I fixed  it per Godders suggestion - therefore giving it a new  link.

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Re: No wireless flash mode on my K10D

2007-02-25 Thread David J Brooks
There was a firmware upgrade a few weeks or more ago for the K10D. One
of the things new was it added the wireless command accessed via the
Fn button.

Dave

On 2/25/07, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Did they upgrade the firmware for the K10D? I know they did for K100D
 but for K10D I didn't know. And btw, I never read a report of it
 working wirelessly with K10D.

 2007/2/25, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  It does, or atleast is supposed to with the upgrade and new firm war
  for the K10.
 
  I can get it to fire, but as i say, the results are poor.The results
  as a on camera flash, after upgrade are also sporatic.
 
  Dave
 
  On 2/25/07, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   AFAIK the Sigma 500 does not support wireless with K10D.
  
   2007/2/25, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Anyone having success with the Sigma 500 DG Super in wireless.
   
Mine fires but the photos are poor.
   
Dave
   
On 2/24/07, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yes, now that you mention it, I finally had to go to my hand held
 magnifying glass to make it out clearly. I, also, gave up looking for
 it in the manual.

 Jack
 --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I finally got it working. Seems there's a little button on the 
  bottom
 
  of the flash that is labeled M C S, where the flash can be changed
  from master to control or slave. The print in the LED window is so
  tiny my old eyes missed it. I didn't have it set on slave. The 
  Pentax
 
  manual doesn't make that clear. In fact, I don't think it mentions
  it. But thanks to everyone for their help.
  Paul
  On Feb 24, 2007, at 6:11 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
 
   Just tried the 360 and it works with the little right edge sliding
   switch on either the white(ch. 1 )or down(slave) position.
  
   Jack
   --- George Sinos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Paul, I tried it on a 360 shortly after the upgrade and it seemed
  to
   work ok.
  
   I'm not near the equipment to double-check, but it seems like I
  set
   the camera flash to wireless mode and the 360 to slave mode.  The
   channel must have been ok, I didn't change it.
  
   I've been thinking of getting a 540 for the swivel head feature.
  
   GS
   http://georgesphotos.net
  
   On 2/24/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   At least not with the built in flash and the 540 FGZ. I have the
   firmware upgrade. I've tried everything and every variation
   thereof.
   Just doesn't work. I doubt that I'll send it in for repair. 
   Don't
   really need it, but I thought I might use it instead of an
   extension
   cable with my stroboframe. Guess not.
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Re: No wireless flash mode on my K10D

2007-02-25 Thread Thibouille
Did they upgrade the firmware for the K10D? I know they did for K100D
but for K10D I didn't know. And btw, I never read a report of it
working wirelessly with K10D.

2007/2/25, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 It does, or atleast is supposed to with the upgrade and new firm war
 for the K10.

 I can get it to fire, but as i say, the results are poor.The results
 as a on camera flash, after upgrade are also sporatic.

 Dave

 On 2/25/07, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  AFAIK the Sigma 500 does not support wireless with K10D.
 
  2007/2/25, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   Anyone having success with the Sigma 500 DG Super in wireless.
  
   Mine fires but the photos are poor.
  
   Dave
  
   On 2/24/07, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, now that you mention it, I finally had to go to my hand held
magnifying glass to make it out clearly. I, also, gave up looking for
it in the manual.
   
Jack
--- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 I finally got it working. Seems there's a little button on the bottom

 of the flash that is labeled M C S, where the flash can be changed
 from master to control or slave. The print in the LED window is so
 tiny my old eyes missed it. I didn't have it set on slave. The Pentax

 manual doesn't make that clear. In fact, I don't think it mentions
 it. But thanks to everyone for their help.
 Paul
 On Feb 24, 2007, at 6:11 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

  Just tried the 360 and it works with the little right edge sliding
  switch on either the white(ch. 1 )or down(slave) position.
 
  Jack
  --- George Sinos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Paul, I tried it on a 360 shortly after the upgrade and it seemed
 to
  work ok.
 
  I'm not near the equipment to double-check, but it seems like I
 set
  the camera flash to wireless mode and the 360 to slave mode.  The
  channel must have been ok, I didn't change it.
 
  I've been thinking of getting a 540 for the swivel head feature.
 
  GS
  http://georgesphotos.net
 
  On 2/24/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  At least not with the built in flash and the 540 FGZ. I have the
  firmware upgrade. I've tried everything and every variation
  thereof.
  Just doesn't work. I doubt that I'll send it in for repair. Don't
  really need it, but I thought I might use it instead of an
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Re: PESO - Old Barn

2007-02-25 Thread David J Brooks
Nice one Marnie.

How'd you know i like old barns and houses.

Dave

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 Taken on the high road to Taos. I spotted this  barn, loved it, pulled off
 and spent about 5-10 minutes taking various shots. I  could easily have spent
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 I've  been playing with the BW conversion routine built-in to Elements 5,
 and  converting is not really my forte. I add my own fiddling to what is
 built-in, so  I'd appreciate any input on the BW  conversion.

 http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/oldbarn.htm

 I  think this is the best shot of what I got, okay, but a bit busy. I don't
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Re: PESO - Lazy Afternoon II

2007-02-25 Thread Jack Davis
Yes, Russ, that's it!

Jack
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  I couldn't decide between two, so I posted both!  Maybe you can
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  http://www.avocadohead.com/piclinks/IMGP2545.html
 
  http://www.avocadohead.com/piclinks/IMGP2548.html
 
 Thanks all for looking.  Yes it is a cyclamen, however if you had
 just
 asked what it was, I would have had to run down-stairs to look :)
 Tom, I didn't know if you you were asking or telling about cropping
 the bottom, and no it is not cropped, but for you and Jack I have
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RE: Forgive my ignorance, but what use is Lightroom?

2007-02-25 Thread Jens Bladt
This sounds very nice, Godfrey. Of course. I can go back (Phase One) as
well - I 'casue I still have the original RAW file. No snap shot option
though. As long as I keep the preview files, I still have the Raw-edition -
and could copy the instruction to other files. Biut I don't keep them.
They'd fill up my computer really fast. Besides, I like the editing tools/
user interface in Phase One better :-)
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On Feb 24, 2007, at 2:11 PM, Jens Bladt wrote:
 James -  I have used external hard drives all the time with Adobe
 Lightroom.
 No problem at all! Just make sure that the harddrive is actually
 available
 BEFORE you start Lightroom. Phase One has the exact same issue, ...

On Mac OS X it isn't necessary to have the external volume mounted
before starting Lightroom. I have started Lightroom, been browsing,
and then realized that I needed to edit something that was on the
backup drive. Just plug it in, flip the switch, and it rechecks,
comes on line.

 The great advantage with software like this is Batch Conversion:
 The option
 to convert many images the same way (simultanoulsy).

And Print.

 I don't udnerstand the pint about improting to libraries either. I
 guess it
 is a work flow thing, not really of importance to me.

The way you work with Photoshop/Bridge/Camera Raw or Phase One is
very different from working with Lightroom. With them, you are
browsing and manipulating image files directly from the file system.
The underlying concepts in Lightroom are quite different.

Lightroom incorporates a database (that's why you must import and
export rather than just open and close files). Once you import
a file, all edits are non-destructive: they're just a set of
instructions on how to render the file retained in the Lightroom
database and/or file metadata. The image file is rendered to screen,
to printer, etc using those instructions. Only when you export it as
a finished product or for further editing are the instructions
applied and a new version of the original file created. You don't
need a save function normally ... it's a database, so all edits are
recorded and saved automatically. LR 1.0 includes the ability to
snapshot a photo's development at various points in the processing,
and you can back up to alternative renderings at any time, or go all
the way back to the original data and start over, have multiple
'virtual' copies with different finish renderings.

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Re: GESO: Snowdrops

2007-02-25 Thread P. J. Alling
That's true, and he still seems to be harmless, well mostly...

Tom C wrote:
 Sorry about my triple post, something is wrong here.


 Tim Typo
 Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)

 

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PESO Connecticut Zen VII

2007-02-25 Thread P. J. Alling
Another addition in the popular Connecticut Zen series.  I took this a 
couple of years ago just when the Zen series was forming in my mind, 
stored it out on a HD and promptly forgot about it.  Well as luck would 
have it last night my New old Saab decided to break it's clutch cable, 
(don't even get me started on how stupid I think that design decision 
was).  Needless to say with the current weather conditions I'm having a 
shop do the replacement work.  So I'm more or less stuck at home today 
and I decided to go through some older images and found this one. 

http://home.mindspring.com/~morephotos/PESO_--_connzenvii.html

Technical Data:
Pentax *ist-D ISO 1600 @ 1/60 sec.
smc Pentax 43mm f1.9 Limited @ f22.

BW conversion by Fotomatic BW Plus w/Yellow Filter selected

Note:  The building in the middle ground is an Award Winning* design 
donated to my town by the Yale School of Architecture, As such it looks 
lovely but is totally useless for any actual purpose, though I thought 
of necking with a girl friend there one.  It was at best uncomfortable.

*Damned if I remember what award it was, and I'm too lazy to even try to 
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Re: DA* instead of DFA* : an idea why ?

2007-02-25 Thread Adam Maas
Mark Roberts wrote:
 Adam Maas wrote:
 
 The sort of people who will continue to shoot 35mm (and I'm one 
 of them) are also the sort who is likely to stick to manual focus SLR 
 and rangefinder gear for the most part, and enjoys working with the 
 less automated gear and film.
 
 Interesting point. I know I sold off my MZ-S but kept my MX and K2.
 
 But it seems that no one's *making* manual focus 35mm SLR gear any more 
 so that really leaves just rangefinders for the future.
 
 

Cosina still does (Bessaflex TM, Bessaflex, Nikon FM10, Vivitar K mount 
body). As does Leica (R9). It's certainly not a huge range, but 
essentially the same players as the RF market (Since Cosina also builds 
the Zeiss Ikon, the other RF player)

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Re: PESO -- Connecticut Zen VI

2007-02-25 Thread P. J. Alling
I didn't keep a note on this one, I think I used a yellow filter.

Paul Stenquist wrote:
 This is an example of where splitting the frame with the horizon 
 resulted in a nice composition. I like the gentle curve of the shore 
 and the calm water in the lower half juxtaposed against the angry sky. 
 Excellent conversion. BWR?
 Paul
 On Feb 25, 2007, at 3:15 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:

   
 Not quite the same Zen feeling of the rest of the series but I couldn't
 figure out what else to call it.

 http://www.mindspring.com/~morephotos/PESO_--_connzenvi.html

 Equipment:  Pentax *ist-D/w smc Pentax FA 70-210 f4-5.6

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Re: No wireless flash mode on my K10D

2007-02-25 Thread Thibouille
Oh yeah I meant Sigma flash firmware.
They did an upgrade 'cos it didn't work with K100D but did Sigma
upgrade the flash when K10D came out? I'm not aware of such an
upgrade.

2007/2/25, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 There was a firmware upgrade a few weeks or more ago for the K10D. One
 of the things new was it added the wireless command accessed via the
 Fn button.

 Dave

 On 2/25/07, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Did they upgrade the firmware for the K10D? I know they did for K100D
  but for K10D I didn't know. And btw, I never read a report of it
  working wirelessly with K10D.
 
  2007/2/25, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   It does, or atleast is supposed to with the upgrade and new firm war
   for the K10.
  
   I can get it to fire, but as i say, the results are poor.The results
   as a on camera flash, after upgrade are also sporatic.
  
   Dave
  
   On 2/25/07, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
AFAIK the Sigma 500 does not support wireless with K10D.
   
2007/2/25, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Anyone having success with the Sigma 500 DG Super in wireless.

 Mine fires but the photos are poor.

 Dave

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  Yes, now that you mention it, I finally had to go to my hand held
  magnifying glass to make it out clearly. I, also, gave up looking 
  for
  it in the manual.
 
  Jack
  --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   I finally got it working. Seems there's a little button on the 
   bottom
  
   of the flash that is labeled M C S, where the flash can be changed
   from master to control or slave. The print in the LED window is so
   tiny my old eyes missed it. I didn't have it set on slave. The 
   Pentax
  
   manual doesn't make that clear. In fact, I don't think it mentions
   it. But thanks to everyone for their help.
   Paul
   On Feb 24, 2007, at 6:11 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
  
Just tried the 360 and it works with the little right edge 
sliding
switch on either the white(ch. 1 )or down(slave) position.
   
Jack
--- George Sinos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
Paul, I tried it on a 360 shortly after the upgrade and it 
seemed
   to
work ok.
   
I'm not near the equipment to double-check, but it seems like I
   set
the camera flash to wireless mode and the 360 to slave mode.  
The
channel must have been ok, I didn't change it.
   
I've been thinking of getting a 540 for the swivel head 
feature.
   
GS
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At least not with the built in flash and the 540 FGZ. I have 
the
firmware upgrade. I've tried everything and every variation
thereof.
Just doesn't work. I doubt that I'll send it in for repair. 
Don't
really need it, but I thought I might use it instead of an
extension
cable with my stroboframe. Guess not.
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Re: Pentax digital medium format

2007-02-25 Thread P. J. Alling
With no set introduction/release date.  The only difference from the 
last show was that then it was under glass.  They did the same thing 
with the MZ-D plenty of opportunity to quietly drop the whole project.

Nick Wright wrote:
 According to DPreview.com Pentax is going to exhibit the digi-MF at PMA:

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Re: DA* instead of DFA* : an idea why ?

2007-02-25 Thread P. J. Alling
Cosina is still building manual focus SLR lenses and bodies.  They're 
just hard to find.

Mark Roberts wrote:
 Adam Maas wrote:

   
 The sort of people who will continue to shoot 35mm (and I'm one 
 of them) are also the sort who is likely to stick to manual focus SLR 
 and rangefinder gear for the most part, and enjoys working with the 
 less automated gear and film.
 

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 But it seems that no one's *making* manual focus 35mm SLR gear any more 
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PESO -- Leaf

2007-02-25 Thread Scott Loveless
I've always been inspired by Paul Caponigro's still life work.  Last
month's issue of LensWork featured a photographer by the name of Guy
Gagnon, a French Canadian living in Belgium.  His photographs are
black and white renderings of dried plants against a black velvet
background.  Since it's snowing outside and I didn't really feel like
getting out, I draped a black sweatshirt over a dining chair, parked
it next to the window, and took a few frames of this leaf that
recently fell off one of my wife's plants.

http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/PDMLPESO/photo#5035527265195980162

I shot this with the K100D and 18-55 kit lens at 45mm, f11, 0.3
seconds, -1.5EV, ISO 200, and then tinkered around with it a bit in
Picasa.  I think it needs more depth of field.  I think I need a
better understanding of black and white conversion.  I know I'm going
to want that 35mm Macro Limited.

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Re: PESO -- Leaf

2007-02-25 Thread P. J. Alling
Nice rendering, but it's a little too centered in the frame for me.  
Maybe crop about 1/6th of the frame off the top.

Scott Loveless wrote:
 I've always been inspired by Paul Caponigro's still life work.  Last
 month's issue of LensWork featured a photographer by the name of Guy
 Gagnon, a French Canadian living in Belgium.  His photographs are
 black and white renderings of dried plants against a black velvet
 background.  Since it's snowing outside and I didn't really feel like
 getting out, I draped a black sweatshirt over a dining chair, parked
 it next to the window, and took a few frames of this leaf that
 recently fell off one of my wife's plants.

 http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/PDMLPESO/photo#5035527265195980162

 I shot this with the K100D and 18-55 kit lens at 45mm, f11, 0.3
 seconds, -1.5EV, ISO 200, and then tinkered around with it a bit in
 Picasa.  I think it needs more depth of field.  I think I need a
 better understanding of black and white conversion.  I know I'm going
 to want that 35mm Macro Limited.

 Comments and critiques most welcome.  Thanks for looking.

   


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Re: DA* instead of DFA* : an idea why ?

2007-02-25 Thread Adam Maas
Not that hard in some cases. Any Nikon dealer probably has a couple 
FM10's, and the Vivitar K mount body is also pretty common.

-Adam


P. J. Alling wrote:
 Cosina is still building manual focus SLR lenses and bodies.  They're 
 just hard to find.
 
 Mark Roberts wrote:
 Adam Maas wrote:

   
 The sort of people who will continue to shoot 35mm (and I'm one 
 of them) are also the sort who is likely to stick to manual focus SLR 
 and rangefinder gear for the most part, and enjoys working with the 
 less automated gear and film.
 
 Interesting point. I know I sold off my MZ-S but kept my MX and K2.

 But it seems that no one's *making* manual focus 35mm SLR gear any more 
 so that really leaves just rangefinders for the future.


   
 
 


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PESO - For Knarf

2007-02-25 Thread Adam Maas
Shot this yesterday wandering around the Annex near Kensington Market, 
where Frank's shot more than a few shots. Not my typical thing though.

Thought Frank might like it though, it's got motion blur, bikes and is 
in BW.

http://flickr.com/photos/mawz/402230206/

Large/Direct link for the Flickr-phobic:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/141/402230206_8e63d1a555_b.jpg

-Adam

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PESO - Retired

2007-02-25 Thread Paul Sorenson
The Mid-Continent Railway Museum is in the unlikely small town of North 
Freedom, WI.  Spent some time there on a sunny fall day in early 
November and snapped this along with others.

http://home.earthlink.net/~allaround6/data/quicksnap.htm

Pentax DS2, Tamron 28-200 at 28mm.
1/60, f:6.3
Converted with Fotomatic BW Plus w/blue filter
Brown toning added w/Photo-Plugins B/W Conversion

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Re: Pentax digital medium format

2007-02-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
The MZ-D didn't last nearly this long. And there was good reason to  
abandon it. If Pentax can introduce a moderately priced ($5000 or  
less) 32 megapixel 645, they will have a real winner on their hands.
Paul
On Feb 25, 2007, at 12:53 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

 With no set introduction/release date.  The only difference from the
 last show was that then it was under glass.  They did the same thing
 with the MZ-D plenty of opportunity to quietly drop the whole project.

 Nick Wright wrote:
 According to DPreview.com Pentax is going to exhibit the digi-MF  
 at PMA:

 http://www.dpreview.com/news/0702/07022501pentaxatpma2007.asp




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Re: PESO - For Knarf

2007-02-25 Thread Mark Roberts
Adam Maas wrote:

Shot this yesterday wandering around the Annex near Kensington Market, 
where Frank's shot more than a few shots. Not my typical thing though.

Thought Frank might like it though, it's got motion blur, bikes and is 
in BW.

http://flickr.com/photos/mawz/402230206/
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/141/402230206_8e63d1a555_b.jpg

*Very* Theriaultean. I like it!


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Re: Pentax digital medium format

2007-02-25 Thread Cotty
On 25/2/07, Nick Wright, discombobulated, unleashed:

According to DPreview.com Pentax is going to exhibit the digi-MF at PMA:

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0702/07022501pentaxatpma2007.asp

With both SD and CF capacity I note. Pity they chose the ugly duckling
design ;-)  That was not one of the original three design studies I was
fond of.

It will be interesting to see the price.


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Re: PESO - For Knarf

2007-02-25 Thread P. J. Alling
Very much in the Theauraltian style.

Adam Maas wrote:
 Shot this yesterday wandering around the Annex near Kensington Market, 
 where Frank's shot more than a few shots. Not my typical thing though.

 Thought Frank might like it though, it's got motion blur, bikes and is 
 in BW.

 http://flickr.com/photos/mawz/402230206/

 Large/Direct link for the Flickr-phobic:

 http://farm1.static.flickr.com/141/402230206_8e63d1a555_b.jpg

 -Adam

   


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Re: Pentax digital medium format

2007-02-25 Thread P. J. Alling
You know what the biggest word in the English Language is don't you?

Paul Stenquist wrote:
 The MZ-D didn't last nearly this long. And there was good reason to  
 abandon it. If Pentax can introduce a moderately priced ($5000 or  
 less) 32 megapixel 645, they will have a real winner on their hands.
 Paul
 On Feb 25, 2007, at 12:53 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

   
 With no set introduction/release date.  The only difference from the
 last show was that then it was under glass.  They did the same thing
 with the MZ-D plenty of opportunity to quietly drop the whole project.

 Nick Wright wrote:
 
 According to DPreview.com Pentax is going to exhibit the digi-MF  
 at PMA:

 http://www.dpreview.com/news/0702/07022501pentaxatpma2007.asp


   
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Re: PESO - Retired

2007-02-25 Thread P. J. Alling
I hate you.

Paul Sorenson wrote:
 The Mid-Continent Railway Museum is in the unlikely small town of North 
 Freedom, WI.  Spent some time there on a sunny fall day in early 
 November and snapped this along with others.

 http://home.earthlink.net/~allaround6/data/quicksnap.htm

 Pentax DS2, Tamron 28-200 at 28mm.
 1/60, f:6.3
 Converted with Fotomatic BW Plus w/blue filter
 Brown toning added w/Photo-Plugins B/W Conversion

 Comments, pro or con accepted

 -P



   


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Re: How many K10s do we have now? a poll.

2007-02-25 Thread cbwaters
The total today is now at 56 units.

CW

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 We're over 40 so far...

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 Hey List,
 How many K10D cameras do the PDML members have now?

 Send me a reply off-list and I'll compile by the weekend.

 If you've ordered yours but it hasn't arrived yet, count it.  if you're
 still saving, not so much.

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Re: Side-by-side 16-45 vs 16-50 lenses

2007-02-25 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
On 2007-02-25, at 00:20, Peter Lacus wrote:

 count me in, I wouldn't even hesitate to say it looks cheap. Also it
 doesn't look like internal focusing lens to me.
It does have [IF] in its name and this means exactly Internal Focus.


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