Re: SV: OT: The tomb of Jesus

[Boris Liberman]

Be sure to inform me of such an event ;-).

Boris

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> 
> Jens, have you visited Israel??? You may want to pay a visit, you know ;-).
> 
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Re: PESO - Lazy Afternoon II

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 2/26/2007 9:53:43 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
here is a cropped  slightly, and plus a half stop  version...

http://www.avocadohead.com/piclinks/spare2.html

the  first crop:
http://www.avocadohead.com/piclinks/spare.html

and the  original:
http://www.avocadohead.com/piclinks/IMGP2545.html

Russ


I  like first crop better, second crop is too tight.

Just my  .02.

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Re: PESO -- Untitled IX

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 2/26/2007 5:36:34 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Pretentious untitle  and  all.

http://www.mindspring.com/~morephotos/PESO_--_untitledix.html

Technical  Data:
Pentax *ist-D ISO 200 @ 1/250
smc Pentax FA 20-35mmm f4.0 AL @ 32mm  & f8.0

Conversion using Fotomatic B*W Plus, Green Filter  applied.

As usual comments are welcome but may be totally  ignored.

Actually, when one thinks of it, titles are more  pretentious than no titles.

Very nice, Peter, that's more like it. :-) I  find the right side a little 
too dark, but that may just be me. Other than that,  I really like it. Love the 
post. 

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Re: PAW 2007 - 10 - GDG

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 2/26/2007 12:12:37 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Sorry, I'm getting ahead of  the weeks but I was working on this one  
today too and felt it should  go up now ...

http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/10.htm

Comments, critique,  etc.

best,
Godfrey

(Again the larger size ... 624 pixels  tall.)


Interesting. Overall I like it. But I think if you  lost the sidewalk, or 
most of it, it could be much stronger.

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Re: Snow golf pages

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In a message dated 2/26/2007 11:37:15 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  writes:
http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2007-snogolf/index.htm

Here are  the rest of the shots from snow golf  Saturday.

Dave


I remember this, you showed photos  like this last year or the year before. 
Must be a annual event. And you guys are  truly nuts. Hehehe.

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Re: OT: My Annoying Birthday

[David Savage]

At 02:46 PM 27/02/2007, David Mann wrote:
>On Feb 26, 2007, at 9:05 PM, David Savage wrote:
>
> > Dave you keep injuring yourself riding. I think The Sloth God is
> > trying to
> > tell you something ;-)
>
>Yeah, I'm obviously not riding enough and need more practice.

The Great Sloth Almighty has nothing to do with practice.

Cheers,

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Re: PESO -- Theater Noir

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In a message dated 2/25/2007 11:53:26 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  writes:
http://www.mindspring.com/~morephotos/PESO_--_theaternoir.html

==
Doesn't  quite work for me Peter, I keep wanting the glove more close up. Not 
necessarily  close up close up, just closer. Not sure why. 

Although the film noir  idea is a cute one. I think that has potential.

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Re: PAW 2007 - 09 - GDG

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 2/26/2007 11:09:25 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Another photo from a recent  walk around the neighborhood, when the  
light was very flat and soft in  the nascent moments of oncoming rain:

http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/09.htm

Comments, critique and  tossed salad all welcome.

BTW, I'm moving to larger standard display  sizes. This one is square  
at 624x624 pixels ... I'd like to know if  anyone has difficulty with  
this size photo, particularly in the  vertical dimension. Can you see  
it without scrolling? Is the  annotation below it visible or do you  
need to scroll to see it?  etc.

enjoy,
Godfrey

===
Oh, nice. I like that,  Godfrey, very much.

Good color.

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Re: PESO - Kyoto

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 2/25/2007 6:28:19 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Taken on evening  walk in a Kyoto backstreet somewhere between
Kiyomizu-dera and  Yasaka-jinja:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5644387

Comments  welcome. I did wonder about cropping the left hand side upto
the banner to  remove that restaurant sign, and possibly cropping the
right hand side a bit  too.

Cheers,
Eric.


=
Interesting, and, yes, I  think it would have a lot more punch if you cropped 
it up to the sign or beyond  the sign a tad. Make the depth and darkness at 
street end more of a focus. The  contrast between the two, that is.

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Re: PESO: Grace tests the wireless flash/stroboframe setup

[Eactivist]

This was a nice
> conclusion to what  
> has been a weekend from hell with rampant flu
> throughout the  house and 
> even an ambulance trip to the hospital for
>  91-year-old mom (who is a 
> back home and okay now). But that's another  story.
> Here's  Gracie!
>
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5643208&size=lg
>
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5643196&size=lg


Both  nice shots, Paul. Sorry about mom, glad she is okay now. Stressful,  
though.

Again, Grace is a cutie.

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Re: OT: How many List Members Does it Take?

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And 10 who claim they just want to USE the  light, not discuss how to change 
bulbs, what type of bulbs, the luminance of  various bulb types, or anything 
else boring and technical like  that.

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Re: OT: The tomb of Jesus

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I don't think this discussion is appropriate for  this list.

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Re: PESO - Retired

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 2/26/2007 10:20:08 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Thanks Marnie and all  who replied.  FYI, here is the original color 
version as well as the BW  and final brown toned version.  Warning - I 
used SimpleViewer so Flash  is  required.

http://home.earthlink.net/~allaround6/data/

-P

==
I  like the color version better. Hehehehehe.

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Re: OT: The tomb of Jesus

[David Savage]

At 03:23 PM 27/02/2007, William Robb wrote:

>- Original Message -
>From: "Paul Stenquist"
>Subject: Re: OT: The tomb of Jesus
>
>
>
> >>> Go to mass, take some of the bread or wine after
> >>> transubstantiation. Voila.
> >>>
> >>> :)
> >>>
> >>
> >> Good one.
> >>
> > And that comes from a Christian! :-)
> >
>
>Sounds more like a Catholic <:-)


Isn't that someone addicted to cat's?

Cheers,

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Re: How many K10s do we have now? a poll.

[John Celio]

All I know is, Heinz ketchup has little 57s on the bottles, which is where 
my association came from and what got this silly subthread going.

Still, my favorite condiment is probably Tabasco Sauce.  Goes great on just 
about anything.

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Re: OT: The tomb of Jesus

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Paul Stenquist" 
Subject: Re: OT: The tomb of Jesus



>>> Go to mass, take some of the bread or wine after  
>>> transubstantiation. Voila.
>>>
>>> :)
>>>
>>
>> Good one.
>>
> And that comes from a Christian! :-)
> 

Sounds more like a Catholic <:-)

William Robb

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Re: PESO - Retired

[Paul Sorenson]

Thanks Marnie and all who replied.  FYI, here is the original color 
version as well as the BW and final brown toned version.  Warning - I 
used SimpleViewer so Flash is required.

http://home.earthlink.net/~allaround6/data/

-P

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In a message dated 2/25/2007 10:29:40 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> The Mid-Continent  Railway Museum is in the unlikely small town of North 
> Freedom, WI.   Spent some time there on a sunny fall day in early 
> November and snapped this  along with  others.
> 
> http://home.earthlink.net/~allaround6/data/quicksnap.htm
> 
> Pentax  DS2, Tamron 28-200 at 28mm.
> 1/60, f:6.3
> Converted with Fotomatic BW Plus  w/blue filter
> Brown toning added w/Photo-Plugins B/W  Conversion
> 
> Comments, pro or con  accepted
> 
> -P
> 
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> Very nice. Not sure about brown  toning, though.
> 
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Re: OT: My Annoying Birthday

[David Mann]

On Feb 27, 2007, at 5:20 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

> Dave,
> That bike riding is downright dangerous.
> Weren't you recovering from an injury when we saw you in November?

Yes, and that still hasn't fully healed.  If I stretch my thumb a  
certain way it still hurts a little.

This time I did a better job.  I could barely walk last night.   
Getting in and out of a bath is quite difficult when you can't bend  
your knee.  The Mrs mentioned the dreaded 'd' word but it's only a  
bit of bruising and a nasty scrape.

What's annoying is that there's no machismo in crashing like I did.   
I really should have made up a more interesting story, which wouldn't  
have been difficult considering the track I was riding home from.   
Instead I've been using it as an entertaining anecdote of how a  
moment's inattention can spell disaster.

And yes I am considering some shin & knee pads...

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SV: OT: The tomb of Jesus

[Jens Bladt]

Unfortunaltely not, Boris. Maybe I will some day :-)
Regards
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Emne: Re: OT: The tomb of Jesus


Jens, have you visited Israel??? You may want to pay a visit, you know ;-).

Boris

Jens Bladt wrote:
> So, it seems somone finally found the grave of Jesus Christ - and his son.
> This must be something to photograph. Imageine being the first
photographer
> to make this portrait :-)
> I remember seeing a fictional movie not too long ago - on the same issue
> issue. In the movie the Vatican finally destroyed all the evidense of the
> findings...
> Anyone remeber the name of this movie? It was an excellent movie, made a
bit
> like a documentary.
> Regards
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Re: OT: My Annoying Birthday

[David Mann]

On Feb 26, 2007, at 9:05 PM, David Savage wrote:

> Dave you keep injuring yourself riding. I think The Sloth God is  
> trying to
> tell you something ;-)

Yeah, I'm obviously not riding enough and need more practice.

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Re: PESO - Lazy Afternoon II

[Russell Kerstetter]

here is a cropped slightly, and plus a half stop version...

http://www.avocadohead.com/piclinks/spare2.html

the first crop:
http://www.avocadohead.com/piclinks/spare.html

and the original:
http://www.avocadohead.com/piclinks/IMGP2545.html

Russ


On 2/26/07, Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Russ,
> I like the 1st one better.
> It's dark and mysterious...actually too dark!
> I'd look for some more light in it.
> The leaves in #2 have no purpose to me,
> But the head of the flower is more attractive.
> Regards, Bob S.
>
> On 2/25/07, Russell Kerstetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I couldn't decide between two, so I posted both!  Maybe you can help.
> >
> > http://www.avocadohead.com/piclinks/IMGP2545.html
> >
> > http://www.avocadohead.com/piclinks/IMGP2548.html
> >
> > Thanks for looking.
> >
> > Russ
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Re: PESO: Grace tests the wireless flash/stroboframe setup

[Russell Kerstetter]

nice shots paul, it looks like you have got the bouncing figgered out.
 I am getting a 540 myself and a diffuser, as soon as they are back in
stock again :( and then I will have something else new to learn

russ


On 2/25/07, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, since I got the wireless mode to work, I returned to my original
> mission: Using the 560 flash high atop the stroboframe with an
> Omnibouce 80/20 reflector. (That's a reflector with holes in it that
> directs 80% of the light off the reflector and 20% off atypical 8 foot
> ceiling. ) I used it with and without the on-camera flash. The first
> pic here is with the on-camera (you can see the double catch lights).
> The second is without the on-camera. With the on-camera, you
> essentially have three light sources. I can alter the intensity of the
> 560 by changing teh zoom setting, the angle of the flash head and the
> height of the stroboframe bracket. (It's the dead-serious one -- I
> think they call it 2500 pro -- with height adjustment and camera flip.)
> I have to experiment. But I think this might be a nice setup for
> on-camera work, such as weddings and events. By the way, Grace was
> pretending that she was making an omelet. When I make one for her I use
> a hand mixer in a beaker. She had some orange juice in a thermos. She
> made a mess, and I got scolded:-)). This was a nice conclusion to what
> has been a weekend from hell with rampant flu throughout the house and
> even an ambulance trip to the hospital for 91-year-old mom (who is a
> back home and okay now). But that's another story. Here's Gracie!
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Re: Pentax digital medium format

[P. J. Alling]

"If"

graywolf wrote:
> Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis (at least the last I heard 
> several years back). Oops, that is the longest. OK, I'll bite, Pete, 
> what is the biggest?
>
>
> John Sessoms wrote:
>   
>>> From:
>>> "P. J. Alling
>>> You know what the biggest word in the English Language is don't you? 
>>>   
>> Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious?
>>
>>
>> 
>
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Re: How many List Members Does it Take?

[Stan Halpin]

At least 15 to discuss the backward compatibility of the brand of  
light bulb being used, (10 of those would get into a flame war about  
the rumors of a new, more efficient light-bulb and whether it would  
maintain compatibility.)

3 to post graphs of the relative luminosity of the old and new bulbs,  
with equations to show the luminosity decay as a function of  
temperature and socket type.

7 to point out that the equations fail to take into account the  
filters being used and the difference between 8- and 16-bit luminosity.

11 to descend into puns on light, bulb, and related terms. ["It would  
only take one if it were a light bulb, but it would take two or more  
if it is really heavy..."]

Meanwhile the bulk of the list members would ask "will you please  
turn out the light so we can go back to sleep?!?"

stan

On Feb 26, 2007, at 10:49 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote:

> And 12 to say that they have no idea how to change a light bulb but  
> they'd
> do it a certain way if they had to.
>
> 14 to question if there really are any light bulbs.
>
> 4 would question if the light bulb needed to be changed
>
> 3 would ask how to unsubscribe from the list
>
> Kenneth Waller
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: OT: How many List Members Does it Take?
>
>
>> How many mailing list members does it take to change a light bulb?
>>
>> 1 to change the light bulb and to post that the light bulb has been
>> changed.
>>
>> 14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the
>> light bulb could have been changed differently.
>>
>> 7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs.
>>
>> 7 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about changing light
>> bulbs.
>>
>> 13 to flame the spell checkers.
>>
>> 18 to correct spelling/grammar flames.
>>
>> 6 to argue over whether it's "lightbulb" or "light bulb".
>>
>> 6 to condemn those 6 as anal-retentive.
>>
>> 2 industry professionals to inform the group that the proper term is
>> "lamp".
>>
>> 5 know-it-alls who claim *they* were in the industry, and that "light
>> bulb" is perfectly correct.
>>
>> 6 to email the participant's ISPs complaining that they are in
>> violation of their "acceptable use policy".
>>
>> 4 to post that this mailing list is not about light bulbs and to  
>> please
>> take
>> this discussion to a lightbulb mailing list.
>>
>> 11 to defend the posting to this mailing list saying that we all  
>> use light
>> bulbs and therefore the posts *are* relevant to this mailing list.
>>
>> 1 to show everyone how he didn't have to change the bulb but fixed it
>> up with duct tape & balin' wire and wants to know if he's now
>> qualified for "Redneck Status".
>>
>> 3 willing to let him have honorary status.
>>
>> 15 saying he is disqualified because his fix actually worked and
>> continues to function and besides nobody was hurt during the repair.
>>
>> 3 to claim that since they have superior visual skills they don't  
>> need
>> those "damn bulbs".
>>
>> 27 to say the new energy saving bulbs will never replace the old
>> standards and speculate which models will be discontinued in 5-10  
>> years.
>>
>> 1 to ask, "can you kill an elk with a light bulb?".
>>
>> another one to say, "Yeah, but a heavy bulb penetrates better and is
>> more likely to make up for poor placement.".
>>
>> 8 will insist that the light trajectory from a fixture featuring
>> multiple 60-watt bulbs is flatter than the trajectory of a single
>> big-bore bulb of the same total wattage.
>>
>> 36 to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior, where
>> to buy the best light bulbs, what brand of light bulbs work best for
>> this technique and what brands are faulty.
>>
>> 27 to post URL's where one can see examples of different light bulbs.
>>
>> 14 to post that the URL's were posted incorrectly and then post the
>> corrected URL's.
>>
>> 3 to post about links they found from the URL's that are relevant to
>> this group which makes light bulbs relevant to this group.
>>
>> 33 to link all posts to date, quote them in their entirety including
>> all headers and signatures, and add "Me too".
>>
>> 12 to post to the group that they will no longer post because they
>> cannot handle the light bulb controversy.
>>
>> 19 to quote the "Me too's" to say "what he said".
>>
>> 4 to say that, "BY GOD lightbulbs are for sissies!" and that in their
>> day they had to use coal oil lanterns and home made candles.
>>
>> 8 to post rolling eyesHere we go again!!
>>
>> 4 to say "didn't we go through this already a short time ago?".
>>
>> 14 to say "do a search on light bulbs before posting questions about
>> light bulbs".
>>
>> 20 to wonder why some of these people don't read their owner's manual
>> instead of asking the whole world where the light bulb is, what type
>> it is, and how to change it. But they don't want to post such a  
>> question.
>>
>> 8 to say that flourescent is far superior to incandescent.
>>
>> 12 to refute that

Re: PAW 2007 - 10 - GDG

[Russell Kerstetter]

nice colors!

russ

On 2/26/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sorry, I'm getting ahead of the weeks but I was working on this one
> today too and felt it should go up now ...
>
>http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/10.htm
>
> Comments, critique, etc.
>
> best,
> Godfrey
>
> (Again the larger size ... 624 pixels tall.)
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Re: PESO - Lazy Afternoon II

[Russell Kerstetter]

too dark, huh?  it looks fine on my laptop at home (to me), but on my
computar at work it was really dark like you said.  Thanks for the
input Bob.

Russ

On 2/26/07, Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Russ,
> I like the 1st one better.
> It's dark and mysterious...actually too dark!
> I'd look for some more light in it.
> The leaves in #2 have no purpose to me,
> But the head of the flower is more attractive.
> Regards, Bob S.
>
> On 2/25/07, Russell Kerstetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I couldn't decide between two, so I posted both!  Maybe you can help.
> >
> > http://www.avocadohead.com/piclinks/IMGP2545.html
> >
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> >
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Re: PESO: Grace tests the wireless flash/stroboframe setup

[Boris Liberman]

I shall definitely like to see the setup.

Cheers!

Boris

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> It's not elaborate; it's just one flash attached to the camera. But
> the stroboframe gives me the option of shooting verticals without
> losing the overhead orientation. The on-camera flash isn't necessary,
> but it can soften any shadow cast by the main (when that is
> advantageous). The 80/20 omnibounce reflector can be replaced with a
> conventional trapezoid diffuser, which I frequently use. But when a
> low ceiling is available, the 80/20 provides softer light. Using the
> wireless mode makes the setup simpler rather than more complicated.
> There's no cord to get in the way and far fewer mechanical
> connections. In truth, the setup is very simple but also very
> adaptable and adjustable.
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Re: OT: The tomb of Jesus

[japilado]

Is the reason why this is on the list because the photos in the book were
taken with Pentaxes?

Jim a.




> You're talking about the new James Cameron documentary about the alleged
> tomb? The BBC did a piece on this eleven years ago. It's since been
> relegated to the hogwash bin. But it was never beneath Cameron to go for a
> quick buck.
> Paul
>  -- Original message --
> From: "Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> So, it seems somone finally found the grave of Jesus Christ - and his
>> son.
>> This must be something to photograph. Imageine being the first
>> photographer
>> to make this portrait :-)
>> I remember seeing a fictional movie not too long ago - on the same issue
>> issue. In the movie the Vatican finally destroyed all the evidense of
>> the
>> findings...
>> Anyone remeber the name of this movie? It was an excellent movie, made a
>> bit
>> like a documentary.
>> Regards
>> Jens Bladt
>>
>> Latest photographs: http://flickr.com/photos/bladt/
>> http://www.jensbladt.dk
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Re: PESO -- Untitled IX

[Boris Liberman]

I kind of agree with you, Bruce. Yet there is this bigger piece of wood 
on the foreground on the right. This is this constant dilemma in this 
kind of shot - to include something like this in the frame or to make a 
few steps forward and leave it out.

I think I rather like what Peter did, though personally I would at least 
try to take the same shot without that pole and see how it compares with 
this one.

Boris

Bruce Dayton wrote:
> My first glance I thought "nah..." - then I saw those foreground
> shadows.  It is actually kind of cool.
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Re: OT: How many List Members Does it Take?

[Boris Liberman]

Add to that a double or even triple digit number of messages that will 
be posted following the event of changing the bulb. After all, was it 
Pentax intention to change the bulb or was it to be left there for sake 
of compatibility with previous bulb models ;-).

Some of us, also known as brotherhood, would then argue that 
professional bulb changers should be using only medium format bulbs.

Finally, we will have to thoroughly investigate the differences between 
digital and analog bulbs, you know.

;-)

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Re: Pentax digital medium format

[graywolf]

Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis (at least the last I heard 
several years back). Oops, that is the longest. OK, I'll bite, Pete, 
what is the biggest?


John Sessoms wrote:
>> From:
>> "P. J. Alling
>> You know what the biggest word in the English Language is don't you? 
> 
> Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious?
> 
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Re: OT: The tomb of Jesus

[Boris Liberman]

Jens, have you visited Israel??? You may want to pay a visit, you know ;-).

Boris

Jens Bladt wrote:
> So, it seems somone finally found the grave of Jesus Christ - and his son.
> This must be something to photograph. Imageine being the first photographer
> to make this portrait :-)
> I remember seeing a fictional movie not too long ago - on the same issue
> issue. In the movie the Vatican finally destroyed all the evidense of the
> findings...
> Anyone remeber the name of this movie? It was an excellent movie, made a bit
> like a documentary.
> Regards
> Jens Bladt
> 
> Latest photographs: http://flickr.com/photos/bladt/
> http://www.jensbladt.dk
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Re: PESO - 2 Hamilton Island Panos

[Boris Liberman]

Christian, this was an attempt on associative compliment if such a thing 
exists. I also seem to have made a misprint. It is "The Songs of Distant 
Earth" (give or take another "the").

You can look up the book or you can look up an album by Mike Oldfield 
that has the same name. This album is one of my all time favorites.

Boris


Christian wrote:
> I'm not sure what that means, Boris, but u... thanks?


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Re: OT: How many List Members Does it Take?

[graywolf]

And 1 to point out that that California is trying to make regular $0.29 
light bulbs illegal, and make everyone buy those $8.99 energy saving 
thingies 



Tom C wrote:

> 27 to say the new energy saving bulbs will never replace the old
> standards and speculate which models will be discontinued in 5-10 years.


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Re: How many List Members Does it Take?

[Kenneth Waller]

And 12 to say that they have no idea how to change a light bulb but they'd 
do it a certain way if they had to.

14 to question if there really are any light bulbs.

4 would question if the light bulb needed to be changed

3 would ask how to unsubscribe from the list

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - 
From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: OT: How many List Members Does it Take?


> How many mailing list members does it take to change a light bulb?
>
> 1 to change the light bulb and to post that the light bulb has been
> changed.
>
> 14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the
> light bulb could have been changed differently.
>
> 7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs.
>
> 7 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about changing light
> bulbs.
>
> 13 to flame the spell checkers.
>
> 18 to correct spelling/grammar flames.
>
> 6 to argue over whether it's "lightbulb" or "light bulb".
>
> 6 to condemn those 6 as anal-retentive.
>
> 2 industry professionals to inform the group that the proper term is
> "lamp".
>
> 5 know-it-alls who claim *they* were in the industry, and that "light
> bulb" is perfectly correct.
>
> 6 to email the participant's ISPs complaining that they are in
> violation of their "acceptable use policy".
>
> 4 to post that this mailing list is not about light bulbs and to please 
> take
> this discussion to a lightbulb mailing list.
>
> 11 to defend the posting to this mailing list saying that we all use light
> bulbs and therefore the posts *are* relevant to this mailing list.
>
> 1 to show everyone how he didn't have to change the bulb but fixed it
> up with duct tape & balin' wire and wants to know if he's now
> qualified for "Redneck Status".
>
> 3 willing to let him have honorary status.
>
> 15 saying he is disqualified because his fix actually worked and
> continues to function and besides nobody was hurt during the repair.
>
> 3 to claim that since they have superior visual skills they don't need
> those "damn bulbs".
>
> 27 to say the new energy saving bulbs will never replace the old
> standards and speculate which models will be discontinued in 5-10 years.
>
> 1 to ask, "can you kill an elk with a light bulb?".
>
> another one to say, "Yeah, but a heavy bulb penetrates better and is
> more likely to make up for poor placement.".
>
> 8 will insist that the light trajectory from a fixture featuring
> multiple 60-watt bulbs is flatter than the trajectory of a single
> big-bore bulb of the same total wattage.
>
> 36 to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior, where
> to buy the best light bulbs, what brand of light bulbs work best for
> this technique and what brands are faulty.
>
> 27 to post URL's where one can see examples of different light bulbs.
>
> 14 to post that the URL's were posted incorrectly and then post the
> corrected URL's.
>
> 3 to post about links they found from the URL's that are relevant to
> this group which makes light bulbs relevant to this group.
>
> 33 to link all posts to date, quote them in their entirety including
> all headers and signatures, and add "Me too".
>
> 12 to post to the group that they will no longer post because they
> cannot handle the light bulb controversy.
>
> 19 to quote the "Me too's" to say "what he said".
>
> 4 to say that, "BY GOD lightbulbs are for sissies!" and that in their
> day they had to use coal oil lanterns and home made candles.
>
> 8 to post rolling eyesHere we go again!!
>
> 4 to say "didn't we go through this already a short time ago?".
>
> 14 to say "do a search on light bulbs before posting questions about
> light bulbs".
>
> 20 to wonder why some of these people don't read their owner's manual
> instead of asking the whole world where the light bulb is, what type
> it is, and how to change it. But they don't want to post such a question.
>
> 8 to say that flourescent is far superior to incandescent.
>
> 12 to refute that it makes no difference whether one uses incandescent
> or flourescent.
>
> 3 to state that they "know someone" who was blinded by the use of
> incandescents and only an inexperienced person or outright fool would
> choose anything other than flourescent.
>
> 3 to state that they have tried reading upside down using
> incandescents and can still see absolutely no difference between the two.
>
> 1 to put his incandescent light bulbs (lamps/lightbulbs) in nothing
> but fiberglass swirly colored light fixtures.
>
> 6 to condem anyone using grid power, obvious from their reference over
> which type to use and demand that everyone switch to eco-friendly candles.
>
> 6 to push for the further development of LED clusters.
>
> and finally, 1 mailing list "lurker" to respond to the original post 6
> months
> from now and start it all over again.
>
>
>
>
> Tom C.


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Re: OT - Mics n audio n stuff

[graywolf]

Couldn't hurt.

What I am intending to do at this point is direct stereo. (1) I want to 
record nature sound like the wind in the trees and water. But not bird 
calls, insect sounds, and technical stuff like that. (2) Live acoustic 
music ensembles. (3) Possibly, if I can get an in, some interviews for 
the local radio stations. (4) Narration of children's books. (5)Who 
knows where things might lead.

All pretty much as a hobbyist, so I will not be able to afford the best 
stuff, but my research seems to show that mics need to be in the $100 
range here in the US to be at all decent. I remember the old direct 
stereo (2 mics) recordings as sounding better than the current mixed 
stuff, maybe just a case of reminiscence making it seem so, but I want 
to give it a try.

-graywolf


Cotty wrote:

> 
> I suppose it depends what you're going to mic up WRT what you need. I
> have a friend who is a freelance sound recordist who knows much more
> about audio than I do, I could chuck your email past him if you like,
> see what he says.
> 
> 
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Re: OT: My Annoying Birthday

[Bob Sullivan]

Dave,
That bike riding is downright dangerous.
Weren't you recovering from an injury when we saw you in November?
Regards,  Bob S.

On 2/26/07, David Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Feb 26, 2007, at 9:14 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > A bunch of smooshed-car photos, none taken with a Pentax (because
> > all my Pentax cameras use film and I haven't gotten to the lab yet
> > with the film I shot -- these were all done with my widdle P&S
> > digital), from the hit-and-run accident involving my car and three
> > other parked cars twenty minutes before the start of my birthday.
> >
> > 
>
> Makes me feel less bad about scratching my bike in a stupid crash on
> Saturday.
>
> Being a bit too used to my commuting bike (with rim-brakes), I
> grabbed the brake lever a bit harder than I should have.  That taught
> me how much stopping power a big disc brake has.  The wheel locked
> instantly and the road was jumping up at me before I knew what had
> happened.
>
> Lucky it was the rear brake or I'd have literally eaten concrete.
> The front brake is bigger and would have thrown me straight over the
> bars.  Instead my knee is looking pretty battered and the bruising
> has really come out today.  I was able to ride into town yesterday
> but today I can barely walk and I'm upset that I probably won't be
> doing any riding for a week or more.
>
> One lesson I'd like to pass on is that when riding you should always
> wear good gloves.  I'm amazed that mine were so strong that they
> didn't show the slightest damage after being driven quite hard
> straight into the road surface.  I really hate injuring my hands as
> the wounds/dressings keep getting in the way of everything.  Those
> gloves were a birthday present so I expressed appropriate amounts of
> gratitude :)
>
> - Dave
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Re: OT: The tomb of Jesus

[Jack Davis]

Am some hat familiar with the history of this "Resurrection" and am
guessing it has something to do with the Easter Season.(?) Neah!

Jack
--- Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The fundamentalists don't have to get all over it. The archaeologists
>  
> and scientists already have. Cameron is a famous con artist. I almost
>  
> made the mistake of working with him once on some Dodge commercials  
> when he had his CGI post production business. We were going to build 
> 
> them from CATIA files, which was a new idea at the time. Just before 
> 
> we awarded the job I found out that he was going to try and fake it. 
> 
> He's a scoundrel. But that's beside the point. The alleged "tomb of  
> Jesus" was discredited long ago. It's an old story, and it has  
> nothing to do with whether one believes or does not.
> Paul
> On Feb 26, 2007, at 10:15 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
> 
> > I think he was referring to "The DaVinci Code".
> >
> > I don't know if Cameron's documentary is hogwash or not, but I
> expect
> > the x-tian funtalibanimentalists will be all over it.
> >
> >> From:
> >> pnstenquist
> >> You're talking about the new James Cameron documentary about the  
> >> alleged tomb? The BBC did a piece on this eleven years ago. It's  
> >> since been relegated to the hogwash bin. But it was never beneath 
> 
> >> Cameron to go for a quick buck.
> >> Paul
> >>  -- Original message --
> >> From: "Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>
> >>> So, it seems somone finally found the grave of Jesus Christ - and
>  
> >>> his son.
> >>> This must be something to photograph. Imageine being the first  
> >>> photographer
> >>> to make this portrait  :-)
> >>> I remember seeing a fictional movie not too long ago - on the  
> >>> same issue
> >>> issue. In the movie the Vatican finally destroyed all the  
> >>> evidense of the
> >>> findings...
> >>> Anyone remeber the name of this movie? It was an excellent movie,
>  
> >>> made a bit
> >>> like a documentary.
> >>> Regards
> >>> Jens Bladt
> >
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Re: PESO - Lazy Afternoon II

[Bob Sullivan]

Russ,
I like the 1st one better.
It's dark and mysterious...actually too dark!
I'd look for some more light in it.
The leaves in #2 have no purpose to me,
But the head of the flower is more attractive.
Regards, Bob S.

On 2/25/07, Russell Kerstetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I couldn't decide between two, so I posted both!  Maybe you can help.
>
> http://www.avocadohead.com/piclinks/IMGP2545.html
>
> http://www.avocadohead.com/piclinks/IMGP2548.html
>
> Thanks for looking.
>
> Russ
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Re: OT: The tomb of Jesus

[Paul Stenquist]

The fundamentalists don't have to get all over it. The archaeologists  
and scientists already have. Cameron is a famous con artist. I almost  
made the mistake of working with him once on some Dodge commercials  
when he had his CGI post production business. We were going to build  
them from CATIA files, which was a new idea at the time. Just before  
we awarded the job I found out that he was going to try and fake it.  
He's a scoundrel. But that's beside the point. The alleged "tomb of  
Jesus" was discredited long ago. It's an old story, and it has  
nothing to do with whether one believes or does not.
Paul
On Feb 26, 2007, at 10:15 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

> I think he was referring to "The DaVinci Code".
>
> I don't know if Cameron's documentary is hogwash or not, but I expect
> the x-tian funtalibanimentalists will be all over it.
>
>> From:
>> pnstenquist
>> You're talking about the new James Cameron documentary about the  
>> alleged tomb? The BBC did a piece on this eleven years ago. It's  
>> since been relegated to the hogwash bin. But it was never beneath  
>> Cameron to go for a quick buck.
>> Paul
>>  -- Original message --
>> From: "Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>> So, it seems somone finally found the grave of Jesus Christ - and  
>>> his son.
>>> This must be something to photograph. Imageine being the first  
>>> photographer
>>> to make this portrait  :-)
>>> I remember seeing a fictional movie not too long ago - on the  
>>> same issue
>>> issue. In the movie the Vatican finally destroyed all the  
>>> evidense of the
>>> findings...
>>> Anyone remeber the name of this movie? It was an excellent movie,  
>>> made a bit
>>> like a documentary.
>>> Regards
>>> Jens Bladt
>
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Re: findings about BuyDig.com

[Bob Sullivan]

Bought an S4, DS, and SV from them.
Fast, no hassle service with a good price.
I'd order again.
Regards,  Bob S.

On 2/26/07, skye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
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> a stupid policy to get me to call in and confirm I was me. When I
> called in, I ended up in voice mail and they never called back. When I
> called them again they said my order had already been sent out. I
> don't know if that policy is still in place, but it won't stop me from
> doing business with them if their prices are still lower. I was a bit
> nervous that it might have been some sort of bait and switch
> technique, but no, it was just stupid.
>
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> image". I don't have any problems with their image.
>
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> done a price check, they usually aren't the cheapest either. I think
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> and wait for it to be sent to you.
>
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> > Hi everybody!
> >
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> .
> .
> .
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Pentax ring flash

[J]

Has any one on the list used the Pentax made ring flash on a digital 
ist d or other ? And what were the results as this flash will do TTL. 
I am talking about the first one they made around the time of the LX..Thanks J


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Re: OT: The tomb of Jesus

[John Sessoms]

I think he was referring to "The DaVinci Code".

I don't know if Cameron's documentary is hogwash or not, but I expect 
the x-tian funtalibanimentalists will be all over it.

> From:
> pnstenquist
> You're talking about the new James Cameron documentary about the alleged 
> tomb? The BBC did a piece on this eleven years ago. It's since been relegated 
> to the hogwash bin. But it was never beneath Cameron to go for a quick buck. 
> Paul
>  -- Original message --
> From: "Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   
> > So, it seems somone finally found the grave of Jesus Christ - and his son.
> > This must be something to photograph. Imageine being the first photographer
> > to make this portrait  :-) 
> > I remember seeing a fictional movie not too long ago - on the same issue
> > issue. In the movie the Vatican finally destroyed all the evidense of the
> > findings...
> > Anyone remeber the name of this movie? It was an excellent movie, made a bit
> > like a documentary.
> > Regards
> > Jens Bladt


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Re: OT: The tomb of Jesus

[Bong Manayon]

LOL

On 2/27/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> No good deed goes unpunished. ;-)
>
> G

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Re: PESO: One from Cottyland

[Mark Roberts]

Paul Stenquist wrote:

>Fascinating. The face of the statue has succumbed to age, but it  
>gives it an eery, mysterious look. I assume that what appears to be  
>flowers hanging around the neck is a plant draped over the statue.

It's outdoors and the staute has been eroded by centuries of rain. It's 
part of a building exterior and the flowers (lilacs?) are growing up 
the side of the wall and arounf the statue. 
  
>Well seen, nice conversion.

The conversion took a lot of work. I did two conversions, each with a 
different color filter, and blended them differently in various parts 
of the image.


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Re: Pentax digital medium format

[John Sessoms]

>
> From:
> "P. J. Alling
> You know what the biggest word in the English Language is don't you? 

Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious?


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Re: Semi-OT: Vivitar 258HV

[John Sessoms]

>
> From:
> "Nick Wright"
>
>
> David, if you haven't seen this blog yet, you ought to go over to
> strobist.com and check it out.
>
> The entire site is dedicated to using small shoe-mount flash units
> off-camera for studio light-like effect. Get some light stands and
> umbrellas and have fun! Strobist insists the best way to do it is with
> PocketWizard radio triggers, but at $300 each pocketwizards are
> pricey. What I've done along this vein so far has been with one flash
> on a PC cord and the other one using a Wein sync peanut. 
There are cheaper alternatives to pocketwizards.

You can get the Chinese 4 channel sets for $80 from Adorama.

Or you can find 'em on eBay for $20. Buy two sets to get the additional 
receiver and have a spare transmitter in case the other goes south.

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RE: Enablement: D-BG 2

[Tim Øsleby]

Thank you Jens. Grip and battery on my what to buy next list, among a couple of 
other "nice to haves". 


Tim Typo
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jens Bladt
Sent: 23. februar 2007 15:48
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Subject: RE: Enablement: D-BG 2

Pointers, yes.
In Denmark I bought my K10D from www.Webfoto.dk
Their prices were comparable to the otherwise cheaper internet shops in
Germany.
I paid 6.659 Dkr.
They wnated 1.900 Dkr for the grip.
I bought one in Germnay (Foto Erhardt) for considerably less: 1.300 Dkr. -
only 68 % of the Danish price.
And I have seen larger price differences than this.

Regards
Jens Bladt
Nytarkort / Greeting Card:
http://www.jensbladt.dk/godtnytaar2007/lydshow.html

http://www.jensbladt.dk
+45 56 63 77 11
+45 23 43 85 77
Skype: jensbladt248

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100% price variations. Could you give us some pointers please?


Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)


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Subject: Enablement: D-BG 2

I finally ordered the D-BG 2 battery grip and an extra D-LI50 battery, for
the K10D.
I was surprised that the prices for these things seem to vary a lot - like a
100%.

I don't really need the extra power - there's something like 1000 shots in
one battery charge - and I rarely do more than 1000 shots in a row. ANd I
have the *ist D as back-up.
But I cerrtainly like the grip - extra release and other controls - a lot.
It's brilliant.
Anyway - I guess there's an extra security in having one extra, charged
battery at hand, all the time :-)

The *ist D was said to  have a problem, dealing with both batteries, right?
Does the K10D suffer from this disease too?


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Re: OT: The tomb of Jesus

[Ken Takeshita]

On 2/26/07, K.Takeshita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Watch tonight's Larry king Live where Cameron is the guest.  He'd better 
> > have
> > some answers!
>
> Oops, not tonight.  Tonight is someone who is irreverent to my life.
> Sorry for misleading info.  CNN was saying Cameron is the guest but
> apparently not tonight.

OMG, it was indeed tonight.  It's going on right now!

Ken

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Re: OT: The tomb of Jesus

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

No good deed goes unpunished. ;-)

G

On Feb 26, 2007, at 5:00 PM, Bong Manayon wrote:

> What's this?
>
> I joined back PDML because I was taking a break from theological  
> stuff...
>
> Bong
> pastor/theologian on parole from hard labor :-D


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Re: OT: How many List Members Does it Take?

[Tom C]

Hah! :-)

It wasn't mine, I clipped it from another forum, but it fits.


Tom C.


>From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>Subject: Re: OT: How many List Members Does it Take?
>Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:43:44 -0500
>
>Very good!
>But you forgot:
>1 to ARGUE ENDLESSLY and PROFANELY that the light bulb should have
>been equipped with an aperture simulator.
>Paul
>On Feb 26, 2007, at 8:10 PM, Tom C wrote:
>
> > How many mailing list members does it take to change a light bulb?
> >
> > 1 to change the light bulb and to post that the light bulb has been
> > changed.
> >
> > 14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the
> > light bulb could have been changed differently.
> >
> > 7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs.
> >
> > 7 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about changing light
> > bulbs.
> >
> > 13 to flame the spell checkers.
> >
> > 18 to correct spelling/grammar flames.
> >
> > 6 to argue over whether it's "lightbulb" or "light bulb".
> >
> > 6 to condemn those 6 as anal-retentive.
> >
> > 2 industry professionals to inform the group that the proper term is
> > "lamp".
> >
> > 5 know-it-alls who claim *they* were in the industry, and that "light
> > bulb" is perfectly correct.
> >
> > 6 to email the participant's ISPs complaining that they are in
> > violation of their "acceptable use policy".
> >
> > 4 to post that this mailing list is not about light bulbs and to
> > please take
> > this discussion to a lightbulb mailing list.
> >
> > 11 to defend the posting to this mailing list saying that we all
> > use light
> > bulbs and therefore the posts *are* relevant to this mailing list.
> >
> > 1 to show everyone how he didn't have to change the bulb but fixed it
> > up with duct tape & balin' wire and wants to know if he's now
> > qualified for "Redneck Status".
> >
> > 3 willing to let him have honorary status.
> >
> > 15 saying he is disqualified because his fix actually worked and
> > continues to function and besides nobody was hurt during the repair.
> >
> > 3 to claim that since they have superior visual skills they don't need
> > those "damn bulbs".
> >
> > 27 to say the new energy saving bulbs will never replace the old
> > standards and speculate which models will be discontinued in 5-10
> > years.
> >
> > 1 to ask, "can you kill an elk with a light bulb?".
> >
> > another one to say, "Yeah, but a heavy bulb penetrates better and is
> > more likely to make up for poor placement.".
> >
> > 8 will insist that the light trajectory from a fixture featuring
> > multiple 60-watt bulbs is flatter than the trajectory of a single
> > big-bore bulb of the same total wattage.
> >
> > 36 to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior, where
> > to buy the best light bulbs, what brand of light bulbs work best for
> > this technique and what brands are faulty.
> >
> > 27 to post URL's where one can see examples of different light bulbs.
> >
> > 14 to post that the URL's were posted incorrectly and then post the
> > corrected URL's.
> >
> > 3 to post about links they found from the URL's that are relevant to
> > this group which makes light bulbs relevant to this group.
> >
> > 33 to link all posts to date, quote them in their entirety including
> > all headers and signatures, and add "Me too".
> >
> > 12 to post to the group that they will no longer post because they
> > cannot handle the light bulb controversy.
> >
> > 19 to quote the "Me too's" to say "what he said".
> >
> > 4 to say that, "BY GOD lightbulbs are for sissies!" and that in their
> > day they had to use coal oil lanterns and home made candles.
> >
> > 8 to post rolling eyesHere we go again!!
> >
> > 4 to say "didn't we go through this already a short time ago?".
> >
> > 14 to say "do a search on light bulbs before posting questions about
> > light bulbs".
> >
> > 20 to wonder why some of these people don't read their owner's manual
> > instead of asking the whole world where the light bulb is, what type
> > it is, and how to change it. But they don't want to post such a
> > question.
> >
> > 8 to say that flourescent is far superior to incandescent.
> >
> > 12 to refute that it makes no difference whether one uses incandescent
> > or flourescent.
> >
> > 3 to state that they "know someone" who was blinded by the use of
> > incandescents and only an inexperienced person or outright fool would
> > choose anything other than flourescent.
> >
> > 3 to state that they have tried reading upside down using
> > incandescents and can still see absolutely no difference between
> > the two.
> >
> > 1 to put his incandescent light bulbs (lamps/lightbulbs) in nothing
> > but fiberglass swirly colored light fixtures.
> >
> > 6 to condem anyone using grid power, obvious from their reference over
> > which type to use and demand that everyone switch to eco-friendly
> > candles.
> >
> > 6 to push for the further development of 

Re: PESO -- Untitled IX

[Bruce Dayton]

My first glance I thought "nah..." - then I saw those foreground
shadows.  It is actually kind of cool.

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Monday, February 26, 2007, 5:39:00 PM, you wrote:

PJA> Pretentious untitle and all.

PJA> http://www.mindspring.com/~morephotos/PESO_--_untitledix.html

PJA> Technical Data:
PJA> Pentax *ist-D ISO 200 @ 1/250
PJA> smc Pentax FA 20-35mmm f4.0 AL @ 32mm & f8.0

PJA> Conversion using Fotomatic B*W Plus, Green Filter applied.

PJA> As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.

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Re: PESO: One from Cottyland

[Bruce Dayton]

The lighting is very cool!  Just a tad tight on the top, though.

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Monday, February 26, 2007, 4:18:38 PM, you wrote:

MR> The last time we visited Cotty we took a long afternoon stroll through
MR> Oxford with Alma while Cotty went off and did whatever the hell it is
MR> he does when he's out doing stuff. This photo is from a courtyard in
MR> one of the colleges (Magdalen, perhaps?) and was shot with an MX and
MR> Kodak E100SW film. Converted to monochrome in Photoshop with BW Plus
MR> because I didn't like the color version.

MR> http://www.robertstech.com/temp/peso.htm





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Re: OT: How many List Members Does it Take?

[Paul Stenquist]

Very good!
But you forgot:
1 to ARGUE ENDLESSLY and PROFANELY that the light bulb should have  
been equipped with an aperture simulator.
Paul
On Feb 26, 2007, at 8:10 PM, Tom C wrote:

> How many mailing list members does it take to change a light bulb?
>
> 1 to change the light bulb and to post that the light bulb has been
> changed.
>
> 14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the
> light bulb could have been changed differently.
>
> 7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs.
>
> 7 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about changing light
> bulbs.
>
> 13 to flame the spell checkers.
>
> 18 to correct spelling/grammar flames.
>
> 6 to argue over whether it's "lightbulb" or "light bulb".
>
> 6 to condemn those 6 as anal-retentive.
>
> 2 industry professionals to inform the group that the proper term is
> "lamp".
>
> 5 know-it-alls who claim *they* were in the industry, and that "light
> bulb" is perfectly correct.
>
> 6 to email the participant's ISPs complaining that they are in
> violation of their "acceptable use policy".
>
> 4 to post that this mailing list is not about light bulbs and to  
> please take
> this discussion to a lightbulb mailing list.
>
> 11 to defend the posting to this mailing list saying that we all  
> use light
> bulbs and therefore the posts *are* relevant to this mailing list.
>
> 1 to show everyone how he didn't have to change the bulb but fixed it
> up with duct tape & balin' wire and wants to know if he's now
> qualified for "Redneck Status".
>
> 3 willing to let him have honorary status.
>
> 15 saying he is disqualified because his fix actually worked and
> continues to function and besides nobody was hurt during the repair.
>
> 3 to claim that since they have superior visual skills they don't need
> those "damn bulbs".
>
> 27 to say the new energy saving bulbs will never replace the old
> standards and speculate which models will be discontinued in 5-10  
> years.
>
> 1 to ask, "can you kill an elk with a light bulb?".
>
> another one to say, "Yeah, but a heavy bulb penetrates better and is
> more likely to make up for poor placement.".
>
> 8 will insist that the light trajectory from a fixture featuring
> multiple 60-watt bulbs is flatter than the trajectory of a single
> big-bore bulb of the same total wattage.
>
> 36 to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior, where
> to buy the best light bulbs, what brand of light bulbs work best for
> this technique and what brands are faulty.
>
> 27 to post URL's where one can see examples of different light bulbs.
>
> 14 to post that the URL's were posted incorrectly and then post the
> corrected URL's.
>
> 3 to post about links they found from the URL's that are relevant to
> this group which makes light bulbs relevant to this group.
>
> 33 to link all posts to date, quote them in their entirety including
> all headers and signatures, and add "Me too".
>
> 12 to post to the group that they will no longer post because they
> cannot handle the light bulb controversy.
>
> 19 to quote the "Me too's" to say "what he said".
>
> 4 to say that, "BY GOD lightbulbs are for sissies!" and that in their
> day they had to use coal oil lanterns and home made candles.
>
> 8 to post rolling eyesHere we go again!!
>
> 4 to say "didn't we go through this already a short time ago?".
>
> 14 to say "do a search on light bulbs before posting questions about
> light bulbs".
>
> 20 to wonder why some of these people don't read their owner's manual
> instead of asking the whole world where the light bulb is, what type
> it is, and how to change it. But they don't want to post such a  
> question.
>
> 8 to say that flourescent is far superior to incandescent.
>
> 12 to refute that it makes no difference whether one uses incandescent
> or flourescent.
>
> 3 to state that they "know someone" who was blinded by the use of
> incandescents and only an inexperienced person or outright fool would
> choose anything other than flourescent.
>
> 3 to state that they have tried reading upside down using
> incandescents and can still see absolutely no difference between  
> the two.
>
> 1 to put his incandescent light bulbs (lamps/lightbulbs) in nothing
> but fiberglass swirly colored light fixtures.
>
> 6 to condem anyone using grid power, obvious from their reference over
> which type to use and demand that everyone switch to eco-friendly  
> candles.
>
> 6 to push for the further development of LED clusters.
>
> and finally, 1 mailing list "lurker" to respond to the original post 6
> months
> from now and start it all over again.
>
>
>
>
> Tom C.
>
>
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Re: PESO: One from Cottyland

[Paul Stenquist]

Fascinating. The face of the statue has succumbed to age, but it  
gives it an eery, mysterious look. I assume that what appears to be  
flowers hanging around the neck is a plant draped over the statue.  
Well seen, nice conversion.
Paul
On Feb 26, 2007, at 7:18 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

> The last time we visited Cotty we took a long afternoon stroll through
> Oxford with Alma while Cotty went off and did whatever the hell it is
> he does when he's out doing stuff. This photo is from a courtyard in
> one of the colleges (Magdalen, perhaps?) and was shot with an MX and
> Kodak E100SW film. Converted to monochrome in Photoshop with BW Plus
> because I didn't like the color version.
>
> http://www.robertstech.com/temp/peso.htm
>
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Re: OT: How many List Members Does it Take?

[Tom C]

Good one. :-)

Tom C.

>
>Poppycock! Everyone knows that it's much quicker to change an Edison
>Screw bulb than a bayonet fitment bulb.
>
>;-)
>
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PESO -- Untitled IX

[P. J. Alling]

Pretentious untitle and all.

http://www.mindspring.com/~morephotos/PESO_--_untitledix.html

Technical Data:
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smc Pentax FA 20-35mmm f4.0 AL @ 32mm & f8.0

Conversion using Fotomatic B*W Plus, Green Filter applied.

As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.

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Re: Pentax digital medium format

[Paul Stenquist]

For sports shooters, it's a no brainer. You have to go with Canon.  
For a studio pro, who does mainly fashion, the 645 might be  
approving. Many of the New York fashion shooters were using the  
Pentax 6x7 last I heard. Don't know what they're using now. But if  
some are still shooting film, they may go for Pentax, as the 6x7  
lenses will work quite nicely on the 645.
Paul
On Feb 26, 2007, at 6:52 PM, John Francis wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 04:42:15PM -0500, graywolf wrote:
>> In your list of considerations you left out rental availability. Very
>> important for the things you use so seldom that buying is not  
>> sensible,
>> and when you need a substitute because yours is in the shop.
>
> To my mind that is *the* big consideration for "professional" use;
> is addtional and/or replacement gear readily available when your own
> equipment is unavailable or inadequate.
>
> Canon win, hands down, for the sports shooter; it's easy to rent those
> big lenses in any major city, and at all major events Canon show up  
> with
> a truckload of free loaner gear (and technicians to service your  
> stuff,
> free of charge).
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Re: PESO: One from Cottyland

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Feb 26, 2007, at 4:18 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

> The last time we visited Cotty we took a long afternoon stroll through
> Oxford with Alma while Cotty went off and did whatever the hell it is
> he does when he's out doing stuff. This photo is from a courtyard in
> one of the colleges (Magdalen, perhaps?) and was shot with an MX and
> Kodak E100SW film. Converted to monochrome in Photoshop with BW Plus
> because I didn't like the color version.
>
> http://www.robertstech.com/temp/peso.htm

Nice, Mark! Quite a moody air to it. I like the contrast of surface  
textures.

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Re: OT: How many List Members Does it Take?

[Eric Featherstone]

Poppycock! Everyone knows that it's much quicker to change an Edison
Screw bulb than a bayonet fitment bulb.

;-)

Eric.

On 27/02/07, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How many mailing list members does it take to change a light bulb?
>
> 1 to change the light bulb and to post that the light bulb has been
> changed.
>
> 14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the
> light bulb could have been changed differently.
>
> 7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs.
>
> 7 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about changing light
> bulbs.
>
> 13 to flame the spell checkers.
>
> 18 to correct spelling/grammar flames.
>
> 6 to argue over whether it's "lightbulb" or "light bulb".
>
> 6 to condemn those 6 as anal-retentive.
>
> 2 industry professionals to inform the group that the proper term is
> "lamp".
>
> 5 know-it-alls who claim *they* were in the industry, and that "light
> bulb" is perfectly correct.
>
> 6 to email the participant's ISPs complaining that they are in
> violation of their "acceptable use policy".
>
> 4 to post that this mailing list is not about light bulbs and to please take
> this discussion to a lightbulb mailing list.
>
> 11 to defend the posting to this mailing list saying that we all use light
> bulbs and therefore the posts *are* relevant to this mailing list.
>
> 1 to show everyone how he didn't have to change the bulb but fixed it
> up with duct tape & balin' wire and wants to know if he's now
> qualified for "Redneck Status".
>
> 3 willing to let him have honorary status.
>
> 15 saying he is disqualified because his fix actually worked and
> continues to function and besides nobody was hurt during the repair.
>
> 3 to claim that since they have superior visual skills they don't need
> those "damn bulbs".
>
> 27 to say the new energy saving bulbs will never replace the old
> standards and speculate which models will be discontinued in 5-10 years.
>
> 1 to ask, "can you kill an elk with a light bulb?".
>
> another one to say, "Yeah, but a heavy bulb penetrates better and is
> more likely to make up for poor placement.".
>
> 8 will insist that the light trajectory from a fixture featuring
> multiple 60-watt bulbs is flatter than the trajectory of a single
> big-bore bulb of the same total wattage.
>
> 36 to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior, where
> to buy the best light bulbs, what brand of light bulbs work best for
> this technique and what brands are faulty.
>
> 27 to post URL's where one can see examples of different light bulbs.
>
> 14 to post that the URL's were posted incorrectly and then post the
> corrected URL's.
>
> 3 to post about links they found from the URL's that are relevant to
> this group which makes light bulbs relevant to this group.
>
> 33 to link all posts to date, quote them in their entirety including
> all headers and signatures, and add "Me too".
>
> 12 to post to the group that they will no longer post because they
> cannot handle the light bulb controversy.
>
> 19 to quote the "Me too's" to say "what he said".
>
> 4 to say that, "BY GOD lightbulbs are for sissies!" and that in their
> day they had to use coal oil lanterns and home made candles.
>
> 8 to post rolling eyesHere we go again!!
>
> 4 to say "didn't we go through this already a short time ago?".
>
> 14 to say "do a search on light bulbs before posting questions about
> light bulbs".
>
> 20 to wonder why some of these people don't read their owner's manual
> instead of asking the whole world where the light bulb is, what type
> it is, and how to change it. But they don't want to post such a question.
>
> 8 to say that flourescent is far superior to incandescent.
>
> 12 to refute that it makes no difference whether one uses incandescent
> or flourescent.
>
> 3 to state that they "know someone" who was blinded by the use of
> incandescents and only an inexperienced person or outright fool would
> choose anything other than flourescent.
>
> 3 to state that they have tried reading upside down using
> incandescents and can still see absolutely no difference between the two.
>
> 1 to put his incandescent light bulbs (lamps/lightbulbs) in nothing
> but fiberglass swirly colored light fixtures.
>
> 6 to condem anyone using grid power, obvious from their reference over
> which type to use and demand that everyone switch to eco-friendly candles.
>
> 6 to push for the further development of LED clusters.
>
> and finally, 1 mailing list "lurker" to respond to the original post 6
> months
> from now and start it all over again.
>
>
>
>
> Tom C.
>
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OT: How many List Members Does it Take?

[Tom C]

How many mailing list members does it take to change a light bulb?

1 to change the light bulb and to post that the light bulb has been
changed.

14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the
light bulb could have been changed differently.

7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs.

7 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about changing light
bulbs.

13 to flame the spell checkers.

18 to correct spelling/grammar flames.

6 to argue over whether it's "lightbulb" or "light bulb".

6 to condemn those 6 as anal-retentive.

2 industry professionals to inform the group that the proper term is
"lamp".

5 know-it-alls who claim *they* were in the industry, and that "light
bulb" is perfectly correct.

6 to email the participant's ISPs complaining that they are in
violation of their "acceptable use policy".

4 to post that this mailing list is not about light bulbs and to please take
this discussion to a lightbulb mailing list.

11 to defend the posting to this mailing list saying that we all use light
bulbs and therefore the posts *are* relevant to this mailing list.

1 to show everyone how he didn't have to change the bulb but fixed it
up with duct tape & balin' wire and wants to know if he's now
qualified for "Redneck Status".

3 willing to let him have honorary status.

15 saying he is disqualified because his fix actually worked and
continues to function and besides nobody was hurt during the repair.

3 to claim that since they have superior visual skills they don't need
those "damn bulbs".

27 to say the new energy saving bulbs will never replace the old
standards and speculate which models will be discontinued in 5-10 years.

1 to ask, "can you kill an elk with a light bulb?".

another one to say, "Yeah, but a heavy bulb penetrates better and is
more likely to make up for poor placement.".

8 will insist that the light trajectory from a fixture featuring
multiple 60-watt bulbs is flatter than the trajectory of a single
big-bore bulb of the same total wattage.

36 to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior, where
to buy the best light bulbs, what brand of light bulbs work best for
this technique and what brands are faulty.

27 to post URL's where one can see examples of different light bulbs.

14 to post that the URL's were posted incorrectly and then post the
corrected URL's.

3 to post about links they found from the URL's that are relevant to
this group which makes light bulbs relevant to this group.

33 to link all posts to date, quote them in their entirety including
all headers and signatures, and add "Me too".

12 to post to the group that they will no longer post because they
cannot handle the light bulb controversy.

19 to quote the "Me too's" to say "what he said".

4 to say that, "BY GOD lightbulbs are for sissies!" and that in their
day they had to use coal oil lanterns and home made candles.

8 to post rolling eyesHere we go again!!

4 to say "didn't we go through this already a short time ago?".

14 to say "do a search on light bulbs before posting questions about
light bulbs".

20 to wonder why some of these people don't read their owner's manual
instead of asking the whole world where the light bulb is, what type
it is, and how to change it. But they don't want to post such a question.

8 to say that flourescent is far superior to incandescent.

12 to refute that it makes no difference whether one uses incandescent
or flourescent.

3 to state that they "know someone" who was blinded by the use of
incandescents and only an inexperienced person or outright fool would
choose anything other than flourescent.

3 to state that they have tried reading upside down using
incandescents and can still see absolutely no difference between the two.

1 to put his incandescent light bulbs (lamps/lightbulbs) in nothing
but fiberglass swirly colored light fixtures.

6 to condem anyone using grid power, obvious from their reference over
which type to use and demand that everyone switch to eco-friendly candles.

6 to push for the further development of LED clusters.

and finally, 1 mailing list "lurker" to respond to the original post 6 
months
from now and start it all over again.




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Re: OT: The tomb of Jesus

[Bong Manayon]

What's this?

I joined back PDML because I was taking a break from theological stuff...

Bong
pastor/theologian on parole from hard labor :-D



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RE: prd photography

[Tom C]

>
>Is anyone on this list known as PRD Photography on E-bay and was
>selling 2 ist d bodies ? A friend won a bid for one of them..Thanks J
>
>
>--

I don't know but if you and your friend go get a DNA scan we can tell you 
the idendity of PRD Photography. :-)

Furthermore, you refer to yourself as J.  That wouldn't be short for Jesus 
would it?

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Re: One from Cottyland

[Kenneth Waller]

Wonderfully eerie image. I like the subject & rendition.
The missing top of the head looks like a mistake.

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 7:18 PM
Subject: PESO: One from Cottyland


> The last time we visited Cotty we took a long afternoon stroll through 
> Oxford with Alma while Cotty went off and did whatever the hell it is 
> he does when he's out doing stuff. This photo is from a courtyard in 
> one of the colleges (Magdalen, perhaps?) and was shot with an MX and 
> Kodak E100SW film. Converted to monochrome in Photoshop with BW Plus 
> because I didn't like the color version.
> 
> http://www.robertstech.com/temp/peso.htm


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prd photography

[J]

Is anyone on this list known as PRD Photography on E-bay and was 
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Re: The tomb of Jesus

[Kenneth Waller]

> Anyone remember the name of this movie?
Da Vinci code.

>...made a bit like a documentary.
Oh you mean like Gore's documentary?


Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - 
From: "Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Subject: OT: The tomb of Jesus


> So, it seems somone finally found the grave of Jesus Christ - and his son.
> This must be something to photograph. Imageine being the first 
> photographer
> to make this portrait :-)
> I remember seeing a fictional movie not too long ago - on the same issue
> issue. In the movie the Vatican finally destroyed all the evidense of the
> findings...
> Anyone remeber the name of this movie? It was an excellent movie, made a 
> bit
> like a documentary.
> Regards
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PESO: One from Cottyland

[Mark Roberts]

The last time we visited Cotty we took a long afternoon stroll through 
Oxford with Alma while Cotty went off and did whatever the hell it is 
he does when he's out doing stuff. This photo is from a courtyard in 
one of the colleges (Magdalen, perhaps?) and was shot with an MX and 
Kodak E100SW film. Converted to monochrome in Photoshop with BW Plus 
because I didn't like the color version.

http://www.robertstech.com/temp/peso.htm


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Re: OT: The tomb of Jesus

[Tom C]

I feel guilty even discussing this because the charlatan doesn't deserve 
more airtime and attention than he's already getting from a 
pseudo-scientific study of a so-called religious topic.

Tom C.

>
>That's exactly the point of archaeologists who have studied this.
>Mary and Joseph were very common names, as was Jesus. But most
>experts say that the third name isn't Jesus anyway. It was
>mistranslated. Whether one believes or not, this "discovery" of a
>tomb was nothing special. What's more it's location doesn't
>correspond to anything else that is known about the historical (not
>religious) Jesus, son of Joseph and Mary.
>
>Paul

>On Feb 26, 2007, at 5:32 PM, Tom C wrote:
>
> > So how can DNA tests prove anything about who persons were might/
> > have been
> > when you don't have anyone else's DNA to compare it to?
> >
> > And how common would that set of names be for any one of thousands of
> > families living at the time?
> >
> > Tom C.
> >
> >
> >
> >> From: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> >> To: "pentax list" 
> >> Subject: Re: OT: The tomb of Jesus
> >> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 22:24:52 +
> >>
> >> On 26/2/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed:
> >>
> >>> You're talking about the new James Cameron documentary about the
> >>> alleged
> >>> tomb? The BBC did a piece on this eleven years ago. It's since been
> >>> relegated to the hogwash bin. But it was never beneath Cameron to
> >>> go for
> >>> a quick buck.
> >>
> >> BBC link:
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> >> --
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> >>
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> >>   Cotty
> >>
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Re: OT: The tomb of Jesus

[Paul Stenquist]

On Feb 26, 2007, at 6:17 PM, Christian wrote:

> Juan Buhler wrote:
>> On 2/26/07, Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> How do you do DNA samples to establish that the bones belonged to  
>>> Jesus?
>>>   What's your reference sample?  The Shroud of Turin?  Or do you  
>>> go to
>>> Rosslyn Chapel and swab his relies?
>>
>> Go to mass, take some of the bread or wine after  
>> transubstantiation. Voila.
>>
>> :)
>>
>
> Good one.
>
And that comes from a Christian! :-)

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Re: OT: The tomb of Jesus

[Paul Stenquist]

That's exactly the point of archaeologists who have studied this.  
Mary and Joseph were very common names, as was Jesus. But most  
experts say that the third name isn't Jesus anyway. It was  
mistranslated. Whether one believes or not, this "discovery" of a  
tomb was nothing special. What's more it's location doesn't  
correspond to anything else that is known about the historical (not  
religious) Jesus, son of Joseph and Mary.
On Feb 26, 2007, at 5:32 PM, Tom C wrote:

> So how can DNA tests prove anything about who persons were might/ 
> have been
> when you don't have anyone else's DNA to compare it to?
>
> And how common would that set of names be for any one of thousands of
> families living at the time?
>
> Tom C.
>
>
>
>> From: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>> To: "pentax list" 
>> Subject: Re: OT: The tomb of Jesus
>> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 22:24:52 +
>>
>> On 26/2/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed:
>>
>>> You're talking about the new James Cameron documentary about the  
>>> alleged
>>> tomb? The BBC did a piece on this eleven years ago. It's since been
>>> relegated to the hogwash bin. But it was never beneath Cameron to  
>>> go for
>>> a quick buck.
>>
>> BBC link:
>>
>> 
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>   Cotty
>>
>>
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Re: OT: The tomb of Jesus

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "P. J. Alling" 
Subject: Re: OT: The tomb of Jesus


> Only assume, I see it as a certainty.

I'll drink to that.
Of course, I'll drink to most anything.

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Re: OT: The tomb of Jesus

[P. J. Alling]

Only assume, I see it as a certainty.

William Robb wrote:
> - Original Message - 
> From: "K.Takeshita" 
> Subject: Re: OT: The tomb of Jesus
>
>
>
>   
>> Watch tonight's Larry king Live where Cameron is the guest.  He'd better
>> have some answers!
>> 
>
> If he's on Larry King, we can pretty much assume he's full of it.
>
> William Robb
>
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Re: Pentax digital medium format

[John Francis]

On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 04:42:15PM -0500, graywolf wrote:
> In your list of considerations you left out rental availability. Very 
> important for the things you use so seldom that buying is not sensible, 
> and when you need a substitute because yours is in the shop.

To my mind that is *the* big consideration for "professional" use;
is addtional and/or replacement gear readily available when your own
equipment is unavailable or inadequate.

Canon win, hands down, for the sports shooter; it's easy to rent those
big lenses in any major city, and at all major events Canon show up with
a truckload of free loaner gear (and technicians to service your stuff,
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Re: Pentax digital medium format

[Bruce Dayton]

Yup - I just got some files from a wedding that the ceremony was shot
somewhere else and I did the reception here in California.  The
photographer who did the ceremony and wedding party used a Canon 10D.
Pretty good work, too, I might add.  I'm sure there are some segments
in the professional world where cost is not a major issue, but I don't
think it is the wedding photographers.

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Monday, February 26, 2007, 6:11:53 AM, you wrote:

MR> Bill Robb wrote:

>> There are some pro boys out there who don't need to justify 
>> equipment cost, but they are pretty rare.
>> Most pros have a harder time justifying equipment purchases than
>> amateurs.

MR> Man, that's the truth. I know some wedding pros - *good* wedding pros -
MR> who are shooting with digi-rebels, and not because they don't *want* a
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Re: PESO -- Theater Noir

[P. J. Alling]

Would I do that?

Tom C wrote:
>> I am really confused by the text around this photograph... Peter, you
>> confused me :-(.
>>
>> Boris
>>
>> P. J. Alling wrote:
>> 
>>> She had implied it would be an interesting ride, now the missing glove,
>>> the mysterious stranger, it was all tomming together...
>>>
>>> http://www.mindspring.com/~morephotos/PESO_--_theaternoir.html
>>>
>>> Technical Data:
>>> Pentax *ist D ISO 200 @ 1/30sec
>>> smc Pentax FA 20-35mm f4.0 @ f8.0
>>>
>>> B&W conversion Fotomatic B&W Plus, Green Filter selected
>>>
>>> Note:  Perspective correction applied in Photoshop.
>>>
>>>   
>
> It's just Peter trying to tell you what to think again. :-)
>
> Tom C.
>
>
>
>   


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Re: PESO -- Theater Noir

[P. J. Alling]

Bad attempt at a "Noir" genre monologue.

Boris Liberman wrote:
> I am really confused by the text around this photograph... Peter, you 
> confused me :-(.
>
> Boris
>
> P. J. Alling wrote:
>   
>> She had implied it would be an interesting ride, now the missing glove, 
>> the mysterious stranger, it was all tomming together...
>>
>> http://www.mindspring.com/~morephotos/PESO_--_theaternoir.html
>>
>> Technical Data:
>> Pentax *ist D ISO 200 @ 1/30sec
>> smc Pentax FA 20-35mm f4.0 @ f8.0
>>
>> B&W conversion Fotomatic B&W Plus, Green Filter selected
>>
>> Note:  Perspective correction applied in Photoshop.
>>
>> 
>
>
>   


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Re: OT: The tomb of Jesus

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "K.Takeshita" 
Subject: Re: OT: The tomb of Jesus



> 
> Watch tonight's Larry king Live where Cameron is the guest.  He'd better
> have some answers!

If he's on Larry King, we can pretty much assume he's full of it.

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Re: OT: The tomb of Jesus

[Christian]

Juan Buhler wrote:
> On 2/26/07, Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> How do you do DNA samples to establish that the bones belonged to Jesus?
>>   What's your reference sample?  The Shroud of Turin?  Or do you go to
>> Rosslyn Chapel and swab his relies?
> 
> Go to mass, take some of the bread or wine after transubstantiation. Voila.
> 
> :)
> 

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Re: findings about BuyDig.com

[Amita Guha]

On 2/26/07, skye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Anyhow, they aren't expensive but in the few occasions that I have
> done a price check, they usually aren't the cheapest either. I think
> dell has usually ended up cheaper but then you have to wait and wait
> and wait for it to be sent to you.

I have found that with many retailers, if you do upgraded shipping,
they'll ship your item more quickly than if you just ship Ground.

I've been ordering from Buydig for years with no problems - lenses and
bodies as well as digicams. I have a list of preferred retailers.
which includes Buydig, and when I use Pricegrabber, I use the cheapest
one of those. Buydig often comes in a little cheaper than B&H for me
because I have to pay sales tax at B&H.

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Re: OT: The tomb of Jesus

[Jack Davis]

I thought I just heard first sound the ice cracking...sh!

Jack
--- Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> This thread is doomed to end in tears
> 
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Re: PESO - Kyoto

[Eric Featherstone]

On 26/02/07, Jim King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Eric Featherstone wrote on Sun, 25 Feb 2007 18:31:48 -0800
>
> > Taken on evening walk in a Kyoto backstreet somewhere between
> > Kiyomizu-dera and Yasaka-jinja:
> > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5644387
> >
> > Comments welcome. I did wonder about cropping the left hand side upto
> > the banner to remove that restaurant sign, and possibly cropping the
> > right hand side a bit too.
>
> Actually, I see two images in this photo - one is a vertical crop of
> the left side and the other is a horizontal crop of the right side.
> Both would show the end of the street.
>
> The exposure could be adjusted independently for each, if the
> original had been shot in digital.
>
> Regards, Jim

Hi Jim,
Something like these? I pulled rather ham-fistedly at curves in
Lightroom to try and bring down the bright area. (Try and ignore the
very cool colours compared to the original, I started from my own scan
instead of a photoCD.)
http://efeatherstone.dyndns.org/~ericf/photos/temp/vert-20070103223043.jpg
http://efeatherstone.dyndns.org/~ericf/photos/temp/horiz-20070103223043.jpg

Thanks for looking,
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Re: OT: The tomb of Jesus

[K.Takeshita]

On 2/26/07 5:39 PM, "K.Takeshita", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> And how common would that set of names be for any one of thousands of
>> families living at the time?
> 
> Watch tonight's Larry king Live where Cameron is the guest.  He'd better have
> some answers!

Oops, not tonight.  Tonight is someone who is irreverent to my life.
Sorry for misleading info.  CNN was saying Cameron is the guest but
apparently not tonight.

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OT - Mics n audio n stuff (was: Re: Pentax digital medium format)

[Cotty]

On 26/2/07, graywolf, discombobulated, unleashed:

>In your list of considerations you left out rental availability. Very 
>important for the things you use so seldom that buying is not sensible, 
>and when you need a substitute because yours is in the shop.

Absolutely. If my camera breaks, my first port of call is to the hire
company to pick up the replacement, then to my job. At some point I will
have to drop off the camera to the repairers.

By an astounding coincidence, the hire company is also the repairers ;-)

In my job, time is of the essence and measured in minutes, not hours.
You're entirely correct, and rental availability is a crucial
consideration. It was a major determining factor why I chose my
equipment supplier. They fix it when it breaks, and loan a replacement.
Literally one-stop-shop.


>
>Funny, I have been looking at mixers and have about 90% decided upon the 
>Yamaha too, although apparently a lot lower spec'd model than you. I 
>have a couple of obsolete portable stereo cassette decks that I want to 
>use them for field recording. Next up are microphones, and here I could 
>use some advice, I have a couple of Nady's whose main virtual is that 
>they were essentially free with the cables I needed, and whose main 
>fault is their -76db sensitivity. I am thinking I would eventually want 
>to have a pair of dynamic omnidirectionals (EV 635a?), a pair of 
>condenser cardioids for each deck, and a couple of shotgun mics. Does 
>that seem right? I also find it somewhat ironic that adapters to mount 
>mics on my photographic stands are rather expensive, but not quite as 
>expensive (by a couple of bucks) as buying mic stands.

Hell's teeth lad ;-)

I'm no audio specialist - I've had a enough training and experience to
get me by. I have a Sennheiser MKH-416 (directional) as the main mic in
a Rycote Softie windgag with a wireless plug-on transmitter at the base.
It lives on the side of the camera and eats 9v batteries like you
wouldn't believe. I buy 9v and AA's by the hundreds.

Otherwise I have a Beyer omni stick-mic for 'joining me now live here at
the scene' Kermit the frog reporter stuff with another plug-on
transmitter, two standard Sony ECM-77B lapel mics (hard wired) for
boring studio type setups (to be honest they never come out, instead I
use...) and a pair of Sennheiser small lapel mics that are each attached
to a wireless transmitter. One is kept in a small pouch and is used
several times a day, matched to the camera's on-board receiver (same
freq as the 416 and the stick mic, though only one can be used at a
time), and the other lives in a bigger pouch with its matched receiver
and brought out for a two-handed wireless setup - although not often - I
can only monitor and adjust the level of one mic/receiver combo while
filming. I set the other level and leave it - usually the reporter as
they tend to talk at the same level. Punters vary from Hamster Sneeze
Soft to Wounded Klingon Death Bellow and you have to ride it like a
Mustang with a rocket up it's arse sometimes!

I suppose it depends what you're going to mic up WRT what you need. I
have a friend who is a freelance sound recordist who knows much more
about audio than I do, I could chuck your email past him if you like,
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Re: OT: The tomb of Jesus

[Cotty]

This thread is doomed to end in tears

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Re: OT: The tomb of Jesus

[Juan Buhler]

On 2/26/07, Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> How do you do DNA samples to establish that the bones belonged to Jesus?
>   What's your reference sample?  The Shroud of Turin?  Or do you go to
> Rosslyn Chapel and swab his relies?

Go to mass, take some of the bread or wine after transubstantiation. Voila.

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Re: OT: The tomb of Jesus

[Cotty]

On 26/2/07, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed:

>How do you do DNA samples to establish that the bones belonged to Jesus? 
>  What's your reference sample?  The Shroud of Turin?  Or do you go to 
>Rosslyn Chapel and swab his relies?

Hey dude, they do it on CSI all the time, don't you know nothing you
freakin twitcher !

He had a few chisels and stuff man ;-)

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Re: OT: The tomb of Jesus

[Mark Roberts]

Christian wrote:

>How do you do DNA samples to establish that the bones belonged to 
>Jesus? 

Check to see if there are only 23 chromosomes...
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Re: PESO - Sydney Harbour Pano

[K.Takeshita]

On 2/26/07 5:22 PM, "Mark Roberts", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Vancouver, Canada is on my list of favorites. Well worth a visit.

Hey, that's where we wish to retire and take thousands of photos! :-).
Beautiful place, indeed.

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Re: OT: The tomb of Jesus

[K.Takeshita]

On 2/26/07 5:32 PM, "Tom C", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> So how can DNA tests prove anything about who persons were might/have been
> when you don't have anyone else's DNA to compare it to?
> 
> And how common would that set of names be for any one of thousands of
> families living at the time?

Watch tonight's Larry king Live where Cameron is the guest.  He'd better
have some answers!

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Re: OT: The tomb of Jesus

[Christian]

Cotty wrote:
> On 26/2/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
>> You're talking about the new James Cameron documentary about the alleged
>> tomb? The BBC did a piece on this eleven years ago. It's since been
>> relegated to the hogwash bin. But it was never beneath Cameron to go for
>> a quick buck. 
> 
> BBC link:
> 
> 
> 

How do you do DNA samples to establish that the bones belonged to Jesus? 
  What's your reference sample?  The Shroud of Turin?  Or do you go to 
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Re: OT: The tomb of Jesus

[Tom C]

So how can DNA tests prove anything about who persons were might/have been 
when you don't have anyone else's DNA to compare it to?

And how common would that set of names be for any one of thousands of 
families living at the time?

Tom C.



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>On 26/2/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed:
>
> >You're talking about the new James Cameron documentary about the alleged
> >tomb? The BBC did a piece on this eleven years ago. It's since been
> >relegated to the hogwash bin. But it was never beneath Cameron to go for
> >a quick buck.
>
>BBC link:
>
>
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Re: How many K10s do we have now? a poll.

[P. J. Alling]

Yes they are, but I don't think they make a big deal about the 57 
varieties since they have many more products these days.

Kenneth Waller wrote:
> Heinz is still a going concern. Most recently getting notoriety by John 
> Kerry. He married a Heinz heir.
>
> Kenneth Waller
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Subject: Re: How many K10s do we have now? a poll.
>
>
>   
>> Heinz 57 varieties were canned condiments which includes Ketchup,
>> Pickles and other things,  I'm surprised that it's that obscure.
>>
>> John Celio wrote:
>> 
>> The total today is now at 56 units.
>>
>>
>> 
> Count me as 57, aka ketchup. ;)
>
>   
 I thought 57 was pickles.

 
>>> Well, it was a reference to Heinz, which is synonymous with ketchup, in 
>>> my
>>> mind.
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Re: PESO - For Knarf

[P. J. Alling]

Well he is kind of unbelievable.  I've tried to explain Knarf to people 
and they don't believe me.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In a message dated 2/26/2007 8:27:47 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  writes:
> Barely...
>
> Actually, I'll soon (I hope) be in a position to  contribute to the
> list in a more meaningful way.
>
> That's my plan,  anyway...
>
> ;-)
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
> ==
> That would be  nice. We've missed you, at least I have. I can't speak for 
> those guys that you  warn people not to believe.
>
> Of course, I am not sure I believe *you*,  either. 
>
> Marnie aka Doe :-)  
>
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Re: OT: The tomb of Jesus

[Cotty]

On 26/2/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed:

>You're talking about the new James Cameron documentary about the alleged
>tomb? The BBC did a piece on this eleven years ago. It's since been
>relegated to the hogwash bin. But it was never beneath Cameron to go for
>a quick buck. 

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Re: PESO - Sydney Harbour Pano

[Mark Roberts]

Christian wrote:

>Peter Lacus wrote:
>> 
>>> It's the most beautiful city on the planet, Peter, you should 
>>> visit if  you can.
>> 
>> it may well be even if I prefer nature over cities (especially big) 
>>any time. From all the cities I've visited so far I liked 
>>Copenhagen the most. My "top five cities" also includes Prague, 
>>Tallinn, San Francisco and Amritsar.
>
>Copenhagen is very nice as well as San Francisco;  Buenos Aires is 
>in my list as well.  If you like San Francisco, you'd love Sydney.

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Re: PESO - Kyoto

[Eric Featherstone]

A small stream sounds familiar, somewhere like Kawaramachi I think, or
just behind that. Thanks for the comments, I understand about the left
side.

Cheers,
Eric.

On 26/02/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Wow, flashback ... I spent a long weekend in Kyoto about a decade and
> a half ago and had a room in a little hotel right near this site. I
> seem to recall there was a small river or stream behind the hotel.
> Kiyomizu-dera was one of my favorite places to visit while I was there.
>
> Neat shot. I wouldn't crop much but the left side is too hot and
> needs to be pushed down a bit to level things out.
>
> Godfrey
>
> On Feb 25, 2007, at 6:18 PM, Eric Featherstone wrote:
>
> > Taken on evening walk in a Kyoto backstreet somewhere between
> > Kiyomizu-dera and Yasaka-jinja:
> > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5644387
> >
> > Comments welcome. I did wonder about cropping the left hand side upto
> > the banner to remove that restaurant sign, and possibly cropping the
> > right hand side a bit too.

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Re: Q: OSX/intel: Photoshop CS2 or wait for CS3?

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

That's good to hear. I know a lot of folks are caught in the middle  
right now.
I'm ok with using CS2 for a while yet as I am still on PowerPC systems.

G

On Feb 26, 2007, at 1:06 PM, Peter Lacus wrote:

> Godfrey,
>
>> So... If you're impatient or have work to do, buy the CS2 Mac OS X
>> upgrade and get going. If your needs are lighter, you can download
>> the evaluation copy and get 30 days free trial use ... I don't think
>> CS3 will be available in 30 days, but it's not a bad risk as you can
>> simply buy the upgrade at the end when the trial runs out. You won't
>> be able to get CS3 beta unless you get the CS2 license, however.
>
> according to John Nack (senior product manager, PS): "The good news is
> that we have a fix for this problem, but timing is such that we  
> won't be
> able to post another public beta build."
>
> http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/photoshop_cs3_beta/
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Re: GESO: Kate'n'Dee

[P. J. Alling]

Cute, nice series.

Dario Bonazza wrote:
> This is a Carnival joke.
> Since I don't know the names of the two girls, and since these were amongst 
> the first pictures shot with my K10D, I decided they could be Kate and Dee, 
> so that when pronounced together it sounds like K10D.
>
> http://www.dariobonazza.com/katendee.htm
>
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Re: Remote assistant for K10D?

[Pancho Hasselbach]

John Whittingham schrieb:
> On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:31:38 +0100, Thibouille wrote
>> I agree, I did not use it often, but knowing I could use that 
>> software was very nice. Also, the day I had to take quick pics for 
>> Ebay etc, the jpeg low res directly to the PC was really a neat 
>> feature, although usb1-only transfer were indeed slow.
>>
>> 2007/2/26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>> I'd like this as well. I've used it in the studio with the D when I had 
> clients at a shoot. I'd love a K10D version. It was only the write speed of 
> the D that made it somewhat of a pain.
>>> Paul
>>>  -- Original message --
>>> From: "John Whittingham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 Hi

 Does anyone know if we'll be getting the Remote Assistant software for 
> the
 K10D anytime soon?

 TIA,


 
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Re: PESO - Sydney Harbour Pano

[Christian]

Peter Lacus wrote:
> 
>> It's the most beautiful city on the planet, Peter, you should visit if 
>> you can.
> 
> it may well be even if I prefer nature over cities (especially big) any 
> time. From all the cities I've visited so far I liked Copenhagen the 
> most. My "top five cities" also includes Prague, Tallinn, San Francisco 
> and Amritsar.

Copenhagen is very nice as well as San Francisco;  Buenos Aires is in my 
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