Re: PESO: Little Smile

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Oct 4, 2007, at 9:42 PM, David Savage wrote:

> 
> K10D, FA 77mm f1.8 Ltd., f3.5 @ 1/100, ISO 250

Excellent, a great smile!

G

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GESO - naturalixms - GDG

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Fun project I made up today to get myself out of the doldrums ...

http://www.gdgphoto.com/naturalixms/naturalixms.jpg

Go to the gallery:
   http://www.gdgphoto.com/naturalixms/

All made with Panasonic L1 fitted with Pentax Fish-Eye-Takumar 17mm f/ 
4 lens.
   tech data: ISO 200-800 @ f/5.6-8 @1/15-125 sec

Comments, critique, etc always appreciated!

enjoy,
Godfrey


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Re: PESO: Little Smile

[Bruce Dayton]

You nailed it with your little comment - a keeper for sure.

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Thursday, October 4, 2007, 9:42:38 PM, you wrote:

DS> G'day All,

DS> Awww (~225kb):

DS> 

DS> K10D, FA 77mm f1.8 Ltd., f3.5 @ 1/100, ISO 250

DS> As always any & all comments welcome.

DS> Cheers,

DS> Dave




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Re: PESO -- Untitled XIII

[Bruce Dayton]

Looks like a tighter shot of the previous one.  The real issue for me
is the lighting - it just does nothing for the shot.  It is maybe even
too tight - the lone chair there is what makes it - so showing even
more 'loneness' would strengthen the shot.

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Thursday, October 4, 2007, 9:10:47 PM, you wrote:

PJA> One more from Stony Creek
PJA> A little different view of the stone break water.

PJA> http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/PESO%20--%20untitledxiii.html

PJA> Equipment: Pentax *ist-Ds/Vivitar Series 1 70-210mm f2.8~4.0 VMC Macro
PJA> Focusing Zoom

PJA> Comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.

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Re: PESO: Little Smile

[David Savage]

On 10/5/07, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Can he hear? :-)

She can.

Her ear is obscured but the car seat she's sitting in.

> Cute.  Interesting DOF difference in the eye reflections.

F3.5 & a funny angle will do that :-)

Cheers,

Dave


> >From: "David Savage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >G'day All,
> >
> >Awww (~225kb):
> >
> >
> >
> >K10D, FA 77mm f1.8 Ltd., f3.5 @ 1/100, ISO 250
> >
> >As always any & all comments welcome.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >
> >Dave

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Re: Last night I dreamed about Mark Roberts..

[David Savage]

On 10/5/07, ann sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mark Roberts wrote:
>
> >ann sanfedele wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>Then I turned on the Tv (watching old movies and tv shows is what I
> >>need to fall asleep)  and an old WALKER, TEXAS RANGER
> >>show came on.  It starred Chuck Norris.  I kept thinking how much
> >>Norris looked like someone I knew --  but who was it?
> >>
> >>Then it hit me... and I dozed off a while later... don't remember
> >>seeing the end of the show.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >A guy at a sub shop once gave me a discount on my sandwich because he
> >thought I resembled Chuck Norris.
> >
> and he was right!
>
> >Strange but true.
> >
> We should get you into one of those celebrity lookalike things!

Speaking of Chuck Norris. Did you know:

1) Guns don't kill people. Chuck Norris kills people.

2) There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of animals Chuck
Norris allows to live.

3) Chuck Norris does not sleep. He waits.

4) The chief export of Chuck Norris is Pain.

5) There is no chin under Chuck Norris' Beard. There is only another fist.

6) Chuck Norris has two speeds. Walk, and Kill.

7) The leading causes of death in the United States are:
1. Heart Disease
2. Chuck Norris
3. Cancer

8) Chuck Norris drives an ice cream truck covered in human skulls.

9) Chuck Norris' tears cure cancer. Too bad he has never cried.

10) Chuck Norris doesn't go hunting CHUCK NORRIS GOES KILLING

11) Chuck Norris is currently suing NBC, claiming Law and Order are
trademarked names for his left and right legs.

12) Chuck Norris sold his soul to the devil for his rugged good looks
and unparalleled martial arts ability. Shortly after the transaction
was finalized, Chuck roundhouse kicked the devil in the face and took
his soul back. The devil, who appreciates irony, couldn't stay mad and
admitted he should have seen it coming. They now play poker every
second Wednesday of the month.

13) A blind man once stepped on Chuck Norris' shoe. Chuck replied,
"Don't you know who I am? I'm Chuck Norris!" The mere mention of his
name cured this man blindness. Sadly the first, last, and only thing
this man ever saw, was a fatal roundhouse kick delivered by Chuck
Norris.

Cheers,

Dave

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Re: Last night I dreamed about Mark Roberts..

[Paul Sorenson]

Not entirely true, Grasshopper.  A search of the NTSB General Aviation 
accident statistics for the four years 1998 - 2001 (the latest I was 
able to find) indicated only two aviation accidents in the Chicago area. 
  One was clearly pilot error - the pilot was attempting to take off 
using less than full power; the other was of an indeterminate cause but 
runway length was more than adequate for the aircraft involved, a Beech 
King Air 200.

As for the winds, you simply had to be competent at crosswind take-offs 
and landings and know the limitations of your piloting skills and the 
aircraft you're flying.  *Most* aviation accidents are attributable to 
pilot error; errors in judgment and attempting to continue flight beyond 
the limits of your skills as an aviator.  If that happens to occur 
during the take-off or landing phase of your flight, you can't really 
blame the airport.

-p

Aviation, to an even greater extent than the sea, is terribly 
unforgiving of any incapacity, carelessness, or neglect.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Of course Meigs was super dangerous. I think the accident rate was double the 
> norm due to short runways and high winds. And it was a security nightmare. 
> Paul


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Re: PESO - Dragon's Throat

[Bruce Dayton]

Very unusual - pretty cool!

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Thursday, October 4, 2007, 4:02:43 PM, you wrote:

TC> On a stroll at lunch hour several days ago.

TC> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6494146

TC> Tom C.






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RE: PESO: Little Smile

[Tom C]

Can he hear? :-)

Cute.  Interesting DOF difference in the eye reflections.

Tom C.



>From: "David Savage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>G'day All,
>
>Awww (~225kb):
>
>
>
>K10D, FA 77mm f1.8 Ltd., f3.5 @ 1/100, ISO 250
>
>As always any & all comments welcome.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Dave
>
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PESO: Little Smile

[David Savage]

G'day All,

Awww (~225kb):



K10D, FA 77mm f1.8 Ltd., f3.5 @ 1/100, ISO 250

As always any & all comments welcome.

Cheers,

Dave

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Mlford Pond and Church

[P. J. Alling]

I had to be in the center of Milford a much bigger shore town, but as 
self consciously quaint as Stony Creek is still mostly un-self 
consciously quaint. On the other hand Milford has been a relatively easy 
commute from New York since the New York, New Haven and Hartford 
Railroad has been in existence.

http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/PESO%20--%20mlfordpondandchurch.html

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Re: Last night I dreamed about Mark Roberts..

[ann sanfedele]

Mark Roberts wrote:

>ann sanfedele wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Then I turned on the Tv (watching old movies and tv shows is what I 
>>need to fall asleep)  and an old WALKER, TEXAS RANGER
>>show came on.  It starred Chuck Norris.  I kept thinking how much 
>>Norris looked like someone I knew --  but who was it?
>>
>>Then it hit me... and I dozed off a while later... don't remember 
>>seeing the end of the show.
>>
>>
>
>A guy at a sub shop once gave me a discount on my sandwich because he 
>thought I resembled Chuck Norris.
>
and he was right!

>Strange but true.
>
We should get you into one of those celebrity lookalike things!

ann


>
>
>
>  
>



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PESO -- Sea Gull

[P. J. Alling]

Last one from Stony Creek

http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/PESO%20--%20seagull.html

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PESO -- Untitled XIII

[P. J. Alling]

One more from Stony Creek
A little different view of the stone break water.

http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/PESO%20--%20untitledxiii.html

Equipment: Pentax *ist-Ds/Vivitar Series 1 70-210mm f2.8~4.0 VMC Macro 
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PES0 -- Shooting from the Hip-ster

[Mike Hamilton]

http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/2007/10/04/shooting-from-the-hip-ster/

Taken at an art gallery function a few weeks ago.  Plenty of cool  
people abound!  :)

K10D, DA21, shot from the hip @ iso 800.  Enjoy!

Mike

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RE: Another K10D observation

[Rod Connan]

I would suggest the setup and work flow I use.

I carry a battery in the camera (The Pentax original) and a battery in the
battery grip.

I set 'Select battery' in Set-up menu 3/3 to 'Grip First'.

In usage this means that the body battery is ignored and the grip battery
supplies the system.

One would have hoped that there would have been an automatic changeover to
the body battery when the grip battery is exhausted - sadly, this is not so!

But - you can quickly resume shooting on the Body battery by simply turning
the camera OFF and then immediately ON. This takes only a moment. Then you
can change the Grip battery at a convenient moment. When you do this, the
body battery shuts down and the grip battery again becomes the primary
source.

The beauty of this setup is that you never have an unexpected delay longer
than the time it takes to flick the camera switch to OFF then back to ON
after waking up to why your camera just stopped 

I usually top up the Body battery when I think of it and when I expect to be
using more than one fully charged battery as I invariably recharge the Grip
battery after taking any images during a day so the body battery is pretty
rarely used.

Hope this is of interest - Rod

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]

K10D observation - I've got the BG-2 grip for the spare battery. For some
reason the K10D battery indicator doesn't show battery usage. 

The indicator shows full charge until suddenly, the camera shuts down from
the depleted batteries. The battery indicator THEN  shows NO charge for just
a few seconds. But it never shows half charge or anything like that to
remind you to charge the battery before it's completely depleted.

Fortunately I had the *ist-D for backup. 



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Re: PESO - "China" - may have been influenced by Godfrey's coffee shops

[Igor Roshchin]

Thu Oct 4 11:30:32 EDT 2007
ann sanfedele wrote:

> >>http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Mixed-2005-2007/China-IMGP6127.jpg
> >>"China".
> >>
> Like the idea - I think one of the elements has to be sharp for it to 
> work better..

For that to work, I should look for more reflective sunglasses.

> Say, weren't those sunglasses recalled?  ;)

HAR! :-)

Igor


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Re: PESO - "China" - may have been influenced by Godfrey's coffeeshops

[Igor Roshchin]

Wed Oct 3 21:45:35 EDT 2007
William Robb wrote:

> > I like the way you cropped it. (Is that all you did? I didn't notice
> > anything else.)
> > Thanks for the idea!
> 
> The Photoshop edit log on it is about 13K.
> 

Ghm... do you mind to share it?
I'd be curious to see what you've done to it.

Thanks,

Igor


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Re: PESO - Evening at the Lake

[Kenneth Waller]

Very well done Bruce.

Kenneth Waller
http://tinyurl.com/272u2f


- Original Message - 
From: "Bruce Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PESO - Evening at the Lake


> One of my older shots.
> 
> Pentax PZ-1p, F 17-28/3.4-4.5 Fisheye
> 
> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/0048-21.htm
> 
> -- 
> Bruce


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Re: GESO -- An enablement!

[Kenneth Waller]

The second image - blue flower is a keeper, but I'd clone out the green 
leaves across the bottom.

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: GESO -- An enablement!


Really three separate PESOs. However all taken with the *ist-Ds and my
new, (to me at least), Vivitar Series 1 70-210, (third version)
f2.8-4.0. I was perfectly happy with my previous Vivitar 70-210 f3.5
(second version), until I read Mark Roberts Glowing review of this lens.
So far I haven't been disappointed. The GESO is the result of walking
around Stony Creek, CT this morning, (I was there on business), and
shooting a few test shots. Damn it, I'm supposed to be saving up to buy
a K10D! (Damn you Mark Roberts!)

http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/PESO%20--%20paintedlady.html

http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/PESO%20--%20blue.html

http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/PESO%20--%20untitledxii.html

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Re: PESO 2007 - 41b - GDG

[Kenneth Waller]

Nice image. I like the composition, subject matter & execution..

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PESO 2007 - 41b - GDG


> This photo reflects my feelings of work and life in the last  
> week ... ;-)
> 
>   http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/41b.htm
> 
> Comments, critique, and a good cup of tea all appreciated.
> 
> enjoy
> Godfrey


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Re: PESO - Dragon's Throat

[Jack Davis]

Very interesting! Like it.

Jack
--- Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On a stroll at lunch hour several days ago.
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6494146
> 
> Tom C.
> 
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Re: PESO - Evening at the Lake

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Oct 4, 2007, at 6:09 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote:

> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/0048-21.htm

A nice postcard shot! :-)
Sunsets sell postcards ...

Godfrey

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Re: PESO - Evening at the Lake

[Christian]

Bruce Dayton wrote:
> One of my older shots.
> 
> Pentax PZ-1p, F 17-28/3.4-4.5 Fisheye
> 
> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/0048-21.htm
> 

I clicked the link, watched it load and thought, meh, another sunset on 
a lake shot...  Using my crappy work laptop the full image didn't fit on 
the 1024x768 screen...  I scrolled down and changed my mind immediately. 
  The sharp foreground reeds on the right, and the color of the water 
really made an impact...  Looks like some kind of fill flash or 
something?  I like!

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Re: Pentax Colorado - Repair

[keith_w]

Bob Blakely wrote:
> [The short] I dropped my FA 1:1.8 31mm lend about one meter to concrete and 
> damaged my aperture ring.

Okay, pitiful story, and shame on them.

However, do you know of another Pentax 'official' repair station anywhere else 
in the U.S.?  No, I haven't looked it up yet...I thought that since it's fresh 
in your mind, you might have another location in mind...

I've been dragging my feet, and I think the place I wanted to send a lens of 
mine to be repaired IS Colorado.
What next?
To whom?

keith whaley

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> crippled,I slipped just outside my favorite coffee house (and, no, it's not 
> Starf*cks). Anyway, I reached out for a table as I fell and knocked my SMC 
> PENTAX-FA 1:1.8 31mm AL Limited off to the concrete. Ouch. Not as bad as I 
> thought it would be though. It hit squarely on the edge of the aperture ring 
> giving it a "cosmetic" flaw and knocking the ring out-of-round. I 
> immediately rued my decision not to purchase the "we don't care if you 
> purposely threw it against a brick wall" warranty for about an extra $50. 
> The lens still works perfectly, but it's very hard to turn the aperture 
> ring.
> 
> [The short] I took the lens to Harold,  my repairman who verified that the 
> only problem is the aperture ring which must be replaced. Since the lens 
> still works, we agreed that he would order the aperture ring while I 
> continued to use the lens and that I would bring the lens in when it arrived 
> for repair. During this time, my repairman called Pentax Colorado several 
> times. Seems they couldn't locate the part or some such and fed him 
> bullpucky. They told him that this lens is not sold in the United States and 
> they couldn't repair it!!!
> 
> [The Long - skip if faint of heart] So I took the lens to my favorite Pentax 
> trained repairman who verified that the only problem was the aperture ring 
> which must be replaced. Since the lens still works, and since the lens can 
> still be easily used on my K10Ds on the "A" setting, we agreed that he would 
> order the aperture ring while I continued to use the lens and that I would 
> bring the lens in when it arrived for a few hours of R&R and registration 
> check. During this time, my repairman called Pentax Colorado several times. 
> Seems they couldn't locate the part or some such. My repairman requested a 
> diagram of the lens so that he could more specifically identify the part for 
> them. (I have no idea why "aperture ring for an SMC PENTAX-FA 1:1.8 31mm AL 
> Limited lens" is not sufficient.) Well, they sent him the wrong diagram! He 
> called them again and after some discussion, they told him that this lens is 
> not sold in the United States and they couldn't repair it!!!
> 
> [The short] Since I know this to be bullpucky, I called Pentax Colorado and 
> informed him that the lens IS sold in the US and, furthermore, the 
> literature that came with the lens lists Pentax Colorado as the place to go 
> for warranty service. After considerable conversation he agreed to order the 
> aperture ring from Japan and have it shipped to my Harold - to be arranged 
> when Harold calls back.
> 
> [The Long - skip if faint of heart] Well, since most of the larger major 
> camera houses sell this lens and since it's on the Pentax USA web site for 
> sale via internet purchase, and since the accompanying literature lists 
> Pentax Colorado as the authorized repair agent, I knew this to be bullpucky! 
> I called Pentax Colorado to find out what was going on. It didn't take [name 
> omitted] long to realize that I was the customer of the repairman he'd just 
> talked to on the phone. I informed him that the lens IS sold in the US and 
> on the shelves of many of the major retailers - such as Samy's; moreover, 
> the lens is for sale to the US on the Pentax US web site. He appeared not to 
> be aware of this, but I reassured him that he was smart enough to access the 
> site and look it up for himself. Furthermore, the literature that came with 
> the lens lists Pentax Colorado as the place to go for warranty service. I 
> asked him what he intended to do when one came in! I further informed him 
> that I'm no neophyte when it comes to Pentax cameras, that I've been 
> shooting them since the early '60s, that I have nearly [deleted serious 5 
> figures] current value (not new) invested in Pentax 35mm and medium format 
> cameras, lenses, bellows, flashes, meters and doohickeys and I follow my 
> investment and the state of Pentax closely. After a few moments of silence, 
> the conversation switched to his agreeing to order the aperture ring from 
> Japan and shipping it to my Harold to be arranged when Harold calls back.
> 
> For those of you who don't know, about a year back Pentax Colorado began 
> outsourcing their repair. I don't know the reason for this, but it might 
> have something to do with the Hoya buy in. Perhaps they have red

Re: PESO - Evening at the Lake

[Rick Womer]

I love lakes.  That is beautiful.  Were you using some
fill flash?  The grass on the right makes me wonder.

Rick
 
--- Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> One of my older shots.
> 
> Pentax PZ-1p, F 17-28/3.4-4.5 Fisheye
> 
> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/0048-21.htm
> 
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Re: Smoker

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Subject: Re: Smoker


> Thanks for looking, Jack. Unfortunately, it's not a Pentax pic:-). In 
> regard to substantive content, it's a picture of a woman smoking. I 
> suppose that's at least as substantive as an empty chair or a bird in the 
> bush. I think it's most interesting in the reactions it engenders. They 
> range from utter disgust to high praise. If nothing else, it provokes.

I'm not disgusted, but in my own (rarely) polite way, I was trying to tell 
you that it's a crap photo, not worthy og either you as a photographer or 
this forum as viewers.
Carry on then.

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Re: PESO - Dragon's Throat

[Rick Womer]

Absolutely brilliant shot!  I love what you've done
with the composition, color, and focus.

Rick

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> On a stroll at lunch hour several days ago.
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6494146
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Re: GESO -- An enablement!

[Bruce Dayton]

The lens looks pretty good with what you have shown.  It is always
hard for us to judge much from such a small picture.  Of the test
shots, the flower is the most interesting to me.

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Thursday, October 4, 2007, 1:57:32 PM, you wrote:

PJA> Really three separate PESOs. However all taken with the *ist-Ds and my
PJA> new, (to me at least), Vivitar Series 1 70-210, (third version) 
PJA> f2.8-4.0. I was perfectly happy with my previous Vivitar 70-210 f3.5
PJA> (second version), until I read Mark Roberts Glowing review of this lens.
PJA> So far I haven't been disappointed. The GESO is the result of walking
PJA> around Stony Creek, CT this morning, (I was there on business), and
PJA> shooting a few test shots. Damn it, I'm supposed to be saving up to buy
PJA> a K10D! (Damn you Mark Roberts!)

PJA> http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/PESO%20--%20paintedlady.html

PJA> http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/PESO%20--%20blue.html

PJA> http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/PESO%20--%20untitledxii.html

PJA> Equipment Pentax *ist-Ds/Vivitar Series 1 70-210mm f2.8~4.0 VMC Macro
PJA> Focusing Zoom

PJA> As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.

PJA> -- 

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Re: PESO: Smoker

[Bruce Dayton]

Hello Paul,

My reaction is much like Bill Robb's - I just don't see anything in
this one.

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Wednesday, October 3, 2007, 7:18:52 PM, you wrote:

PS> Shot through my car window with the Panasonic TZ1.
PS> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6491615&size=lg




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PESO - Evening at the Lake

[Bruce Dayton]

One of my older shots.

Pentax PZ-1p, F 17-28/3.4-4.5 Fisheye

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/0048-21.htm

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Re: PESO 2007 - 41b - GDG

[Bruce Dayton]

I rather fancy this shot.  I have often thought about shooting the
grassy hills around the bay, but have never really done it.  This
shots is a good example of something I would like to do.

Well done.

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Thursday, October 4, 2007, 11:43:11 AM, you wrote:

GD> This photo reflects my feelings of work and life in the last  
GD> week ... ;-)

GD>http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/41b.htm

GD> Comments, critique, and a good cup of tea all appreciated.

GD> enjoy
GD> Godfrey




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Re: PESO: You've asked for it

[Bruce Dayton]

Both are technically excellent, as usual for you.  The first to me is
not quite as interesting, almost seems too modern.  I kind of like the
old factory type of shots you have shown.

The second is pretty cool - with the plume of smoke and the
composition, it is really good!

-- 
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Thursday, October 4, 2007, 10:23:28 AM, you wrote:

RRR> Some more night-time industry shots:

RRR> http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/10368727

RRR> ...and...

RRR>  http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/10440633

RRR> As always, your comments and suggestions... :-)

RRR> Ralf

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Re: Last night I dreamed about Mark Roberts..

[Christian]

Adam Maas wrote:

> 
> Could be worse, the old Hong Kong airport had a dogleg on final, to miss 
> a mountain.
> 
> -Adam

The 90-degree right turn on final at DCA prevents you from being shot 
down by SAMs :-)

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Re: GESO -- An enablement!

[Bob Sullivan]

PJ,
The first two are lovely, especially the flower.
I really appreciate the key parts being in focus.
The third is just a pile of rocks...  ;-)
Regards,  Bob S.

On 10/4/07, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Really three separate PESOs. However all taken with the *ist-Ds and my
> new, (to me at least), Vivitar Series 1 70-210, (third version)
> f2.8-4.0. I was perfectly happy with my previous Vivitar 70-210 f3.5
> (second version), until I read Mark Roberts Glowing review of this lens.
> So far I haven't been disappointed. The GESO is the result of walking
> around Stony Creek, CT this morning, (I was there on business), and
> shooting a few test shots. Damn it, I'm supposed to be saving up to buy
> a K10D! (Damn you Mark Roberts!)
>
> http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/PESO%20--%20paintedlady.html
>
> http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/PESO%20--%20blue.html
>
> http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/PESO%20--%20untitledxii.html
>
> Equipment Pentax *ist-Ds/Vivitar Series 1 70-210mm f2.8~4.0 VMC Macro
> Focusing Zoom
>
> As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.
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Pentax Colorado - Repair

[Bob Blakely]

[The short] I dropped my FA 1:1.8 31mm lend about one meter to concrete and 
damaged my aperture ring.

[The Long - skip if faint of heart] A few weeks ago, being new to being 
crippled,I slipped just outside my favorite coffee house (and, no, it's not 
Starf*cks). Anyway, I reached out for a table as I fell and knocked my SMC 
PENTAX-FA 1:1.8 31mm AL Limited off to the concrete. Ouch. Not as bad as I 
thought it would be though. It hit squarely on the edge of the aperture ring 
giving it a "cosmetic" flaw and knocking the ring out-of-round. I 
immediately rued my decision not to purchase the "we don't care if you 
purposely threw it against a brick wall" warranty for about an extra $50. 
The lens still works perfectly, but it's very hard to turn the aperture 
ring.

[The short] I took the lens to Harold,  my repairman who verified that the 
only problem is the aperture ring which must be replaced. Since the lens 
still works, we agreed that he would order the aperture ring while I 
continued to use the lens and that I would bring the lens in when it arrived 
for repair. During this time, my repairman called Pentax Colorado several 
times. Seems they couldn't locate the part or some such and fed him 
bullpucky. They told him that this lens is not sold in the United States and 
they couldn't repair it!!!

[The Long - skip if faint of heart] So I took the lens to my favorite Pentax 
trained repairman who verified that the only problem was the aperture ring 
which must be replaced. Since the lens still works, and since the lens can 
still be easily used on my K10Ds on the "A" setting, we agreed that he would 
order the aperture ring while I continued to use the lens and that I would 
bring the lens in when it arrived for a few hours of R&R and registration 
check. During this time, my repairman called Pentax Colorado several times. 
Seems they couldn't locate the part or some such. My repairman requested a 
diagram of the lens so that he could more specifically identify the part for 
them. (I have no idea why "aperture ring for an SMC PENTAX-FA 1:1.8 31mm AL 
Limited lens" is not sufficient.) Well, they sent him the wrong diagram! He 
called them again and after some discussion, they told him that this lens is 
not sold in the United States and they couldn't repair it!!!

[The short] Since I know this to be bullpucky, I called Pentax Colorado and 
informed him that the lens IS sold in the US and, furthermore, the 
literature that came with the lens lists Pentax Colorado as the place to go 
for warranty service. After considerable conversation he agreed to order the 
aperture ring from Japan and have it shipped to my Harold - to be arranged 
when Harold calls back.

[The Long - skip if faint of heart] Well, since most of the larger major 
camera houses sell this lens and since it's on the Pentax USA web site for 
sale via internet purchase, and since the accompanying literature lists 
Pentax Colorado as the authorized repair agent, I knew this to be bullpucky! 
I called Pentax Colorado to find out what was going on. It didn't take [name 
omitted] long to realize that I was the customer of the repairman he'd just 
talked to on the phone. I informed him that the lens IS sold in the US and 
on the shelves of many of the major retailers - such as Samy's; moreover, 
the lens is for sale to the US on the Pentax US web site. He appeared not to 
be aware of this, but I reassured him that he was smart enough to access the 
site and look it up for himself. Furthermore, the literature that came with 
the lens lists Pentax Colorado as the place to go for warranty service. I 
asked him what he intended to do when one came in! I further informed him 
that I'm no neophyte when it comes to Pentax cameras, that I've been 
shooting them since the early '60s, that I have nearly [deleted serious 5 
figures] current value (not new) invested in Pentax 35mm and medium format 
cameras, lenses, bellows, flashes, meters and doohickeys and I follow my 
investment and the state of Pentax closely. After a few moments of silence, 
the conversation switched to his agreeing to order the aperture ring from 
Japan and shipping it to my Harold to be arranged when Harold calls back.

For those of you who don't know, about a year back Pentax Colorado began 
outsourcing their repair. I don't know the reason for this, but it might 
have something to do with the Hoya buy in. Perhaps they have reduced staff 
for the purpose of making things look more profitable, whatever, but the 
bottom line seems to be:

1.Don't expect expertise from Pentax Colorado re: repair when you call.
2.Expect longer times to repair due to extra level between you and the 
repairman.
3.Expect possible higher costs due to extra level between you and the 
repairman.
4.Don't take what they say as gospel.

Regards,
Bob...

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Re: CS-3 Printing Problem

[George Sinos]

This is a well known problem with CS3.  Adobe redesigned the way the
printing routines work.

Here's a link to John Nack's blog describing the problem.  Adobe's
working on something, but it's coming slow.



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On 10/4/07, Mark Cassino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've been doing more printing with CS3 lately, and am
> finding that it incorrectly centers images on the
> paper. For example - I just sent a 12x18 inch image to
> be printed on a 13x19 inch sheet of paper. CS3
> "centered" the 12 inch axis 0.14 from the top of the
> page and .86 inches from the bottom. Obviously, a 12
> inch image centers on a 13 inch piece of paper with .5
> inches on each side...
>
> CS3 even shows the incorrect figures in the box that
> displays margins, and shows the image off center in
> the preview. But if I force it to .5 on both sides -
> it says that the image will be cropped and does indeed
> crop it...
>
> I figured it was buggy Win X64 drivers from Epson -
> but then re-installed CS2 and found that it prints
> just fine and dandy.  So now I'm keeping CS2 around
> just for prints.
>
> Anyone else experince this?
>
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Re: K10D date problems?

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Try taking the battery out and leaving it sit like that for two or  
three days. It takes the capacitor in the camera about that long to  
be exhausted and really do a full, clean reset when you next power it  
up with a battery.

Gdofrey

On Oct 4, 2007, at 2:42 PM, Pedro Oliveira wrote:

> Hi.
>
> I detected that same strange behavior with my K10D: the date and time
> are, always
> 2051/11/12 (yy/mm/dd) and 02:43.
>
> When I correct the settings and press OK and return to the adjustment
> menu the date and time are always 2051/11/12 (yy/mm/dd) and 02:43  
> (24h).
>
> Besides that, if I try to activate the World Time setting the camera
> freezes and have to take off the battery to reset it.
>
> Also tried to see if it was hardware related: changed battery
> (original and generic), removed grip, removed lens, etc, always the
> same thing.
>
> To overcome this situation, I put the date in the year 2055 and the
> month and day correct.
> This way I could still use the camera during the summer vacations and
> have the day and month correct.
>
> Other than this, the camera is working flawlessly. It's a great  
> camera.
>
> I will send the camera for repair under warranty.
>
> Pedro Oliveira


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Re: PESO: You've asked for it

[Adam Maas]

  In a message dated 10/4/2007 10:25:13 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Some more night-time industry  shots:
> 
> http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/10368727
> 
> ...and...
> 
> http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/10440633
> 
> As  always, your comments and suggestions...  :-)
> 
> Ralf
> 

Excellent, particularly the second.

I am in awe.

-Adam

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Re: PESO - Dragon's Throat

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Oct 4, 2007, at 4:02 PM, Tom C wrote:

> On a stroll at lunch hour several days ago.
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6494146

Very strange and abstractive flower picture. I like it. :-)

G

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Re: Last night I dreamed about Mark Roberts..

[Adam Maas]

Christian wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Of course Meigs was super dangerous. I think the accident rate was double 
>> the norm due to short runways and high winds. And it was a security 
>> nightmare. 
>> Paul
> 
> National is maybe even worse as far as security is concerned...  Add in 
> the short runways and stupidly dangerous approach heading South and 
> stupidly complicated takeoff heading North...  plus noise complaints... 
> but there is no way in hell Congress would ever allow it to be closed. :-)
> 
> My dad's cousin was an American Airlines pilot for 30 years.  His 
> version at landing at DCA: "Head for the Potomac, close your eyes and 
> pray."
> 
> A ex naval aviator (now airline pilot) interviewed for a Washington Post 
> article said he'd rather land on a carrier... at night... in bad 
> weather...  than at National.
> 

Could be worse, the old Hong Kong airport had a dogleg on final, to miss 
a mountain.

-Adam

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PESO - Dragon's Throat

[Tom C]

On a stroll at lunch hour several days ago.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6494146

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Re: Peso Markham Fair Juggler

[David J Brooks]

On 10/4/07, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 10/3/07, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Understood Frank. but thats the only angle i had at that moment.
> >
> > Thaks for the comments thouh
>
> I didn't even notice the apple, so distracted was I by the orange monstrosity.
>
> I'll upgrade my comments to "that's hell of a shot, but for the
> obscuring orange thingie!".
>
> Great timing (by you and him).  Sucks about the background...  :-(

Well. your right about the background. One day i'll fiqure out how to
remove these items in PS and improve it.

OTOH i didi find a nice collage tutorial through a google search, but
back ground removal is not giving me as nice a choice as collage.

Dave
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> cheers,
> frank
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Re: K10D date problems?

[Pedro Oliveira]

Hi.

I detected that same strange behavior with my K10D: the date and time  
are, always
2051/11/12 (yy/mm/dd) and 02:43.

When I correct the settings and press OK and return to the adjustment
menu the date and time are always 2051/11/12 (yy/mm/dd) and 02:43 (24h).

Besides that, if I try to activate the World Time setting the camera
freezes and have to take off the battery to reset it.

Also tried to see if it was hardware related: changed battery
(original and generic), removed grip, removed lens, etc, always the
same thing.

To overcome this situation, I put the date in the year 2055 and the  
month and day correct.
This way I could still use the camera during the summer vacations and  
have the day and month correct.

Other than this, the camera is working flawlessly. It's a great camera.

I will send the camera for repair under warranty.

Pedro Oliveira

Em Oct 2, 2007, às 2:06 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:

> Has anyone had problems with the K10D keeping the correct date?
>
> I set the date and time back on 09/21/2007  (USA date format mm/dd/ 
> ) when I noticed the dates were wrong on a bunch of photographs  
> I'd taken with the K10D.
>
> When I was copying images to my hard-drive this morning, I noticed  
> the dates are wrong again ...
>
> I checked the date on the K10D menu and it's off by more than a  
> month - 08/29/2007 - when today is October 2nd.
>
> BTW, I'm on the road, having to use my ISP's webmail access to read  
> and send to PDML, so I'm going to be getting behind on the list for  
> the next couple of weeks and however long it takes to catch up  
> thereafter.
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Re: Fine Art Paper for the Epson 2200 - any recommendations

[mike wilson]

Mark Cassino wrote:
> --- mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>>I usually clean glass with a ball of newsprint paper
>>slightly dampened with vinegar.  Although I haven't
>>done much framing of inkjet prints, I have never
>>noticed any outgas residue.
> 
> 
> I think I'll give that a try - so far the best stuff
> I've found is the purple cleaner - not sure what the
> name of it is. It's purple, though... :-)

It's cheap - but good exercise

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Re: PESO - On the Beach

[P. J. Alling]

Nice composition and nice conversion.

frank theriault wrote:
> This is Mel.  These are his rock piles.  They're Mel's Rock Piles.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2hvkj8
>
> http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RwTXdMA-_zI/Axg/wqZ1BnQtVYM/s1600-h/oct_3+001.jpg
>
> If you've never seen SCTV you'll have no idea what I'm talking about.
> Whether you get the "joke" or not, feel free to comment on the pic.
> :-)
>
> thanks in advance,
> frank
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Re: Last night I dreamed about Mark Roberts..

[Mark Roberts]

ann sanfedele wrote:

>Then I turned on the Tv (watching old movies and tv shows is what I 
>need to fall asleep)  and an old WALKER, TEXAS RANGER
>show came on.  It starred Chuck Norris.  I kept thinking how much 
>Norris looked like someone I knew --  but who was it?
>
>Then it hit me... and I dozed off a while later... don't remember 
>seeing the end of the show.

A guy at a sub shop once gave me a discount on my sandwich because he 
thought I resembled Chuck Norris.

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Re: Last night I dreamed about Mark Roberts..

[Christian]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Of course Meigs was super dangerous. I think the accident rate was double the 
> norm due to short runways and high winds. And it was a security nightmare. 
> Paul

National is maybe even worse as far as security is concerned...  Add in 
the short runways and stupidly dangerous approach heading South and 
stupidly complicated takeoff heading North...  plus noise complaints... 
but there is no way in hell Congress would ever allow it to be closed. :-)

My dad's cousin was an American Airlines pilot for 30 years.  His 
version at landing at DCA: "Head for the Potomac, close your eyes and 
pray."

A ex naval aviator (now airline pilot) interviewed for a Washington Post 
article said he'd rather land on a carrier... at night... in bad 
weather...  than at National.

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Re: Last night I dreamed about Mark Roberts..

[P. J. Alling]

Did you learn to crash there too?


Christian wrote:
> Paul Sorenson wrote:
>   
>> Must have been heading for Meigs Field on the lakefront.  Here's what it 
>> looked like before Mayor Daley had it attacked by bulldozers under cover 
>> of darkness and police protection to make sure no-one interfered.  (Not 
>> my pix)
>>
>> http://www.pbase.com/thh/image/35125831
>> 
>
> a, Meigs.. (sigh) the airport where I, and so many other people, 
> learned to fly...  In MS Flight Simulator! :-)
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GESO -- An enablement!

[P. J. Alling]

Really three separate PESOs. However all taken with the *ist-Ds and my 
new, (to me at least), Vivitar Series 1 70-210, (third version) 
f2.8-4.0. I was perfectly happy with my previous Vivitar 70-210 f3.5 
(second version), until I read Mark Roberts Glowing review of this lens. 
So far I haven't been disappointed. The GESO is the result of walking 
around Stony Creek, CT this morning, (I was there on business), and 
shooting a few test shots. Damn it, I'm supposed to be saving up to buy 
a K10D! (Damn you Mark Roberts!)

http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/PESO%20--%20paintedlady.html

http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/PESO%20--%20blue.html

http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/PESO%20--%20untitledxii.html

Equipment Pentax *ist-Ds/Vivitar Series 1 70-210mm f2.8~4.0 VMC Macro 
Focusing Zoom

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Re: PESO: You've asked for it

[P. J. Alling]

Beautiful as usual, and yes I hate you so very much.

Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:
> Some more night-time industry shots:
>
> http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/10368727
>
> ...and...
>
>  http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/10440633
>
> As always, your comments and suggestions... :-)
>
> Ralf
>
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Re: Last night I dreamed about Mark Roberts..

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Of course Meigs was super dangerous. I think the accident rate was double the 
norm due to short runways and high winds. And it was a security nightmare. 
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: Paul Sorenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Must have been heading for Meigs Field on the lakefront.  Here's what it 
> looked like before Mayor Daley had it attacked by bulldozers under cover 
> of darkness and police protection to make sure no-one interfered.  (Not 
> my pix)
> 
> http://www.pbase.com/thh/image/35125831
> 
> -p
> 
> ann sanfedele wrote:
> > that got your attention, huh?
> > 
> > one of the last things I looked at on line were a couple more of Marks 
> > shots from (my home town of) Chicago
> > 
> > Then I turned on the Tv (watching old movies and tv shows is what I need 
> > to fall asleep)  and an old WALKER, TEXAS RANGER
> > show came on.  It starred Chuck Norris.  I kept thinking how much Norris 
> > looked like someone I knew --  but who was it?
> > 
> > Then it hit me... and I dozed off a while later... don't remember seeing 
> > the end of the show.
> >  
> > ( I was going to post one of my shots of Mark from GFM and post a link 
> > to Norris but things of greater
> > necessity are piling up around me and it is Scrabble club night... )
> > 
> > anyway,  I woke this morning actually remembring the most recent dream 
> > which was Mark and I in a cab in Chicago -
> > dashing to get to a small airport... that looked curiously like one of 
> > his fish eye shots  -  the cab driver was muddled
> > and we decided we would get there faster by getting out of the cab and 
> > walking across streets rather than the cab
> > having to manouvre in traffic -- just like a zillion movies we have all 
> > seen of like things in NY.
> > 
> > I woke as we were arriving at the airport and looking for the little 
> > plane that would take us somewhere we were going
> > to shoot - I vaguely remember discussing with him in the dream that it 
> > had to be a small airport because we were going
> > some where in the boondocks...
> > 
> > ann
> > 
> > 
> 
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Re: OT: Roadmaps (RE: Press releases from today... (and roadmap)

[P. J. Alling]

Obviously you've never worked with female engineers.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In a message dated 10/3/2007 7:52:49 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>   
>>  "Let's take the clothes off this idea and see who gets a hard  on"
>> 
>
> ===
> Never heard that one before. I think that can only be  said in meetings that 
> are all male. 
>
> Marnie aka Doe ;-)  Hopefully.
>
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Re: Last night I dreamed about Mark Roberts..

[Christian]

Paul Sorenson wrote:
> Must have been heading for Meigs Field on the lakefront.  Here's what it 
> looked like before Mayor Daley had it attacked by bulldozers under cover 
> of darkness and police protection to make sure no-one interfered.  (Not 
> my pix)
> 
> http://www.pbase.com/thh/image/35125831

a, Meigs.. (sigh) the airport where I, and so many other people, 
learned to fly...  In MS Flight Simulator! :-)
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Re: Last night I dreamed about Mark Roberts..

[ann sanfedele]

Bob W wrote:

>Mark Roberts is too much of a gentleman to be gone in the morning.
>
>--
> Bob
> 
>  
>
LOL -
He;s also too much of a gentleman to go out on his wife ! :)

ann

>  
>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
>>Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi
>>Sent: 04 October 2007 20:53
>>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>>Subject: Re: Last night I dreamed about Mark Roberts..
>>
>>Frightening things happen in our dreams all the time...
>>Most of the time they're gone in the morning. ;-)
>>
>>G
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>  
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Re: PESO: You've asked for it

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 10/4/2007 10:25:13 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Some more night-time industry  shots:

http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/10368727

...and...

http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/10440633

As  always, your comments and suggestions...  :-)

Ralf


Gorgeous!

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Re: PESO 2007 - 41b - GDG

[frank theriault]

On 10/4/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This photo reflects my feelings of work and life in the last
> week ... ;-)
>
>http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/41b.htm
>
> Comments, critique, and a good cup of tea all appreciated.
>

Stunning photo!

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Re: Last night I dreamed about Mark Roberts..

[Mark Roberts]

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

>Frightening things happen in our dreams all the time...
>Most of the time they're gone in the morning. ;-)

Once while camping out on the mountain at GFM I woke up at around 3:00 
a.m. because I dreamed Doug Brewer was shaking me and telling me to go 
out and take pictures. Fortunately I was able to ignore the dream Doug 
as effectively as the real one ;-)


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Re: Last night I dreamed about Mark Roberts..

[Paul Sorenson]

Must have been heading for Meigs Field on the lakefront.  Here's what it 
looked like before Mayor Daley had it attacked by bulldozers under cover 
of darkness and police protection to make sure no-one interfered.  (Not 
my pix)

http://www.pbase.com/thh/image/35125831

-p

ann sanfedele wrote:
> that got your attention, huh?
> 
> one of the last things I looked at on line were a couple more of Marks 
> shots from (my home town of) Chicago
> 
> Then I turned on the Tv (watching old movies and tv shows is what I need 
> to fall asleep)  and an old WALKER, TEXAS RANGER
> show came on.  It starred Chuck Norris.  I kept thinking how much Norris 
> looked like someone I knew --  but who was it?
> 
> Then it hit me... and I dozed off a while later... don't remember seeing 
> the end of the show.
>  
> ( I was going to post one of my shots of Mark from GFM and post a link 
> to Norris but things of greater
> necessity are piling up around me and it is Scrabble club night... )
> 
> anyway,  I woke this morning actually remembring the most recent dream 
> which was Mark and I in a cab in Chicago -
> dashing to get to a small airport... that looked curiously like one of 
> his fish eye shots  -  the cab driver was muddled
> and we decided we would get there faster by getting out of the cab and 
> walking across streets rather than the cab
> having to manouvre in traffic -- just like a zillion movies we have all 
> seen of like things in NY.
> 
> I woke as we were arriving at the airport and looking for the little 
> plane that would take us somewhere we were going
> to shoot - I vaguely remember discussing with him in the dream that it 
> had to be a small airport because we were going
> some where in the boondocks...
> 
> ann
> 
> 


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Re: PESO 2007 - 41b - GDG

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 10/4/2007 11:47:58 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This photo reflects my  feelings of work and life in the last  
week ... ;-)

http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/41b.htm

Comments, critique,  and a good cup of tea all  appreciated.

enjoy
Godfrey


Nice!

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Re: CS-3 Printing Problem

[Mark Cassino]

--- Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> What printer, printer driver, etc?

Yeah - that would be helpful info...

The printer is an Epson 2200, the driver is v 5.5. I'm
running Win XP x64 - the 64 bit version of Windows Xp
built around the Windows Server 2003 core. 

Initially I assumed it was a driver problem - driver
support for x64 is not great. But since the printer
works with CS2 it looks more like a CS3 problem.

> I find that the Epson driver for the R2400 and 1270
> present accurate  
> paper size and printable area to CS2 and Lightroom
> if I don't use the  
> "borderless" options. If I use borderless, the
> sizing goes wonky ...  
> yeah, another technical term. ;-) Similarly,
> defining custom sizing  
> for roll paper printing with either presents a lot
> of "hit and miss"  
> experimentation opportunity.

Hmmm - just checked all the settings again. The driver
is set to sheet feed, not borderless. Interesting -
with CS3 if I check the "centered" option in the print
driver under the "page layout" tab, Photoshop warns me
that the image is larger than the printable area, and
that it will be cropped. But checking that box with
CS2 works fine. 

It looks more and more like there's something wonky in
CS3 - either my installation of it or the program
itself.

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RE: Last night I dreamed about Mark Roberts..

[Bob W]

Mark Roberts is too much of a gentleman to be gone in the morning.

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> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi
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> Frightening things happen in our dreams all the time...
> Most of the time they're gone in the morning. ;-)
> 
> G
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Re: Last night I dreamed about Mark Roberts..

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Frightening things happen in our dreams all the time...
Most of the time they're gone in the morning. ;-)

G

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Re: PESO - On the Beach

[Igor Roshchin]

Thu Oct 4 13:40:29 EDT 2007
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:


> On Oct 4, 2007, at 6:57 AM, frank theriault wrote:
> 
> > This is Mel.  These are his rock piles.  They're Mel's Rock Piles.
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/2hvkj8
> >
> > http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RwTXdMA-_zI/Axg/ 
> > wqZ1BnQtVYM/s1600-h/oct_3+001.jpg
> >
> > If you've never seen SCTV you'll have no idea what I'm talking about.
> > Whether you get the "joke" or not, feel free to comment on the pic.
> > :-)
> 
> Never seen SCTV but this is a cute picture. It's a little glarey ...  
> bright, slightly harsh ... but the content is great anyway.
> 

What he said.

Igor


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Re: PESO 2007 - 41b - GDG

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Only in my dreams...

G

On Oct 4, 2007, at 12:32 PM, Bob W wrote:

> You've had plenty of grass then?
>>
>> This photo reflects my feelings of work and life in the last
>> week ... ;-)
>>
>>http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/41b.htm


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Re: PESO 2007 - 41b - GDG

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Oct 4, 2007, at 12:25 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>>http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/41b.htm
>
> Wow, awesome snap.  It looks so windy, I feel like I should be  
> leaning to the
> right.

There was a serious 20 knot wind hitting me, along with a periodic  
light rain, all that day's shooting. It was running left to right  
with respect to this frame, coming from the north. I had to stabilize  
the tripod by hanging my camera bag from it or it would have blown over.

The coast is very steep by Niarbyl: the road that the woman in the  
photo is walking upwards along goes down to a little settlement of  
classic Manx cottages in the cove below. I'm on the spit of land  
hanging out to meet "the tail" ('the tail' is 'niarbyl' in Manx  
Gaelic, the site is named for this outcrop of rocks that extends into  
the bay like a big lizard's tail...) about 200 feet above the sea and  
bay surroundings, looking backwards at the hillside going upslope  
into the Isle's interior. The wind was intense!

Godfrey

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Re: PESO: You've asked for it

[Christian]

Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:
> Some more night-time industry shots:
> 
> http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/10368727
> 
> ...and...
> 
>  http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/10440633
> 
> As always, your comments and suggestions... :-)
> 
> Ralf
> 

Both very nice, but the smoke and reflections in the second one are amazing!

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Re: was Re: Leica Digilux 3 performance proof

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

I can't speak to the particular photograph presented, I don't know  
enough about it. It looks like it was overprocessed to some degree.  
You can't really judge a camera from marketing collateral.

However, the L1 is identical to the Digilux3 in terms of noise and  
rendering when both are capturing RAW format exposures. I've compared  
the L1 against the Pentax K10D and *ist DS very closely, have over  
7000 exposures with it (35,000 or so with the two Pentax bodies), and  
there is virtually the same noise signature on all three of them at  
ISO settings between 100-400. So if you don't like the Digilux3 image  
quality, you also don't like the *ist D or K10D for image quality.  
The Pentax cameras' larger sensors are a bit less noisy at 800,  
moreso at 1600.

The $3000 price tag you quote is high. The Digilux3 kit is available  
at B&H for $2500 and has been offered with a 30% price rebate from  
Leica as well from time to time, many have been purchased for $1800.  
The lens alone is typically sold standalone for $970 ... it's not a  
cheap kit lens, it's performance rivals the Pentax Limited primes.  
The Panasonic L1 sibling is the same camera, modulo Leica's  
additional QC and warranty (and different firmware for in-camera JPEG  
rendering, irrelevant if you capture RAW format), had an MSRP of  
$1995, sold for $1599 until a few months ago when for one reason or  
another several vendors offered them at about $1050. I bought two. A  
great bargain considering the lens and image quality.

Many have balked at the price of these cameras. Funny, though, is  
that nearly everyone who bought one has been very happy with the  
photos they make, despite the lukewarm reception in the review press,  
rumors and nonsense about noise and other stuff. Even those who own  
Canon 1Ds, Leica M8, and other such exotica ...

Godfrey

On Oct 4, 2007, at 12:01 PM, Roman Melihhov wrote:

> I'm speaking of extremely high noise even at ISO 100
>
> http://www.leica-camera.us/photography/d_system/digilux_3/
>
> click at PERFORMANCE PROOF link to see large sample image taken at ISO
> 100. It won't require a microscope to see poisoning amounts of high  
> ISO
> noise at a very low ISO choice. I was interested because saw this baby
> at my local photo store with price tag above $3000 duh.


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Re: Leica Digilux 3 performance proof

[Christian]

Cotty wrote:
> Romanbot.

HAR!  The lists favorite write-only user...

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Last night I dreamed about Mark Roberts..

[ann sanfedele]

that got your attention, huh?

one of the last things I looked at on line were a couple more of Marks 
shots from (my home town of) Chicago

Then I turned on the Tv (watching old movies and tv shows is what I need 
to fall asleep)  and an old WALKER, TEXAS RANGER
show came on.  It starred Chuck Norris.  I kept thinking how much Norris 
looked like someone I knew --  but who was it?

Then it hit me... and I dozed off a while later... don't remember seeing 
the end of the show.
 
( I was going to post one of my shots of Mark from GFM and post a link 
to Norris but things of greater
necessity are piling up around me and it is Scrabble club night... )

anyway,  I woke this morning actually remembring the most recent dream 
which was Mark and I in a cab in Chicago -
dashing to get to a small airport... that looked curiously like one of 
his fish eye shots  -  the cab driver was muddled
and we decided we would get there faster by getting out of the cab and 
walking across streets rather than the cab
having to manouvre in traffic -- just like a zillion movies we have all 
seen of like things in NY.

I woke as we were arriving at the airport and looking for the little 
plane that would take us somewhere we were going
to shoot - I vaguely remember discussing with him in the dream that it 
had to be a small airport because we were going
some where in the boondocks...

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RE: PESO: You've asked for it

[Bob W]

> 
> On Oct 4, 2007, at 10:23 AM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:
> 
> > Some more night-time industry shots:
> >
> > http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/10368727
> >
> > ...and...
> >
> >  http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/10440633
> 
> I particularly like the second ... that glowing plume is wonderful  
> with all the glow from the structures and reflection.
> 
> Godfrey

I agree. That's a wonderful shot, very powerful and striking.

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RE: PESO 2007 - 41b - GDG

[Bob W]

You've had plenty of grass then?

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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi
> Sent: 04 October 2007 19:43
> To: DUG; PDML List; PAW; SeePhoto Talk
> Subject: PESO 2007 - 41b - GDG
> 
> This photo reflects my feelings of work and life in the last  
> week ... ;-)
> 
>http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/41b.htm
> 
> Comments, critique, and a good cup of tea all appreciated.
> 
> enjoy
> Godfrey
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Re: PESO 2007 - 41b - GDG

[npx]

> This photo reflects my feelings of work and life in the last  
> week ... ;-)
> 
>http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/41b.htm

Wow, awesome snap.  It looks so windy, I feel like I should be leaning to the 
right.

John

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Re: Did 77/1.8 design/implementation have a problem?

[P. J. Alling]

I've heard all kinds of rumors, usually from someone trying to sell some 
other manufacturers equipment.

Thibouille wrote:
> Same here, never heard about that.
>
> 2007/10/4, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>   
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Igor Roshchin"
>> Subject: Did 77/1.8 design/implementation have a problem?
>>
>>
>> 
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I remember reading a rumor about half a year ago or so, when the 77/1.8
>>> was out of stock in many stores, that some issues may have been
>>> discovered - delamination similar to 28-70/4, and presumably
>>> fixing that problem was causing the production delay.
>>> I have never seen it confirmed one way or the other.
>>>
>>> So, has anybody heard anything about it?
>>>
>>>   
>> This is the first I've heard that.
>>
>> William Robb
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Re: Disappointing Results

[P. J. Alling]

I can't say for sure about A&I, I've never used them.  After my first 
experience with chromogenic B&W printed on color paper I decided to scan 
and print my own images.  The border will eat into your prints, so your 
4x6 prints will really be closer to 3 1/2" by 5 1/2" weather or not 
that's acceptable or not is up to you.

Glen Tortorella wrote:
> Thank you, P.J.  After learning more about this, I would have to  
> agree with you.  It seems like the only lab that would  get it right  
> is A&I.  While their mailers are a bit expensive, it seems they  
> provide the proper services.  What do you think?  Also, if I chose  
> their 4x6 with borders, what effect do the borders have upon sizing?   
> I think the borders look nice, but are they inadvisable for the  
> smallish 4x6 size?
>
> Glen
>
> On Oct 3, 2007, at 10:20 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
>
>   
>> B&W printed on Color paper is generally a bad idea. That's what you  
>> got
>> from Wal-Mart. To get the best results, you need to print it one real
>> silver based B&W paper or scan them and print them yourself. Or you  
>> need
>> to find a lab that really knows what they're doing to get decent  
>> results
>> on Color Print paper.
>>
>> Glen Tortorella wrote:
>> 
>>> I forgot to ask: is all C-41 processing the same?  I ask because on
>>> my C-41 B&W I had processed at Wal-Mart, some of the whites have a
>>> bit of a purplish tone.  My instinct tells me that this is a result
>>> of inadequate light in these particular photos...or is C-41 for B&W
>>> at Wal-Mart just a bad idea?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Glen
>>>
>>> On Oct 3, 2007, at 11:10 AM, Adam Maas wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>   
 Try each, settle on whichever produces the better results for you
 (I'd forgotten the N80 was 1/2 stops only). The flash system in the
 N80 is essentially identical to the F100 (as is the metering) apart
 from the F100's selectable exposure stop increments.

 -Adam


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> Thank you, Adam, for your detailed commentary.  Also, I thank
> everyone else who has responded--even the fellow who said I should
> have bought a Pentax (Dave, I think) :-)
>
> Adam: I tried dialing-in the -0.7 FEC value you suggest.  It seems
> the N80 will take only 1/2 increments (-0.5, -1.0, etc.).  I do not
> see any other way to set it.  Is there something I am missing?   
> Also,
> if I am correct about this, would -0.5 be sufficient, or would I be
> wasting my time?...or is this just another reason to look into an
> F100 (as you have suggested)?
>
> Glen
>
> On Oct 3, 2007, at 9:47 AM, Adam Maas wrote:
>
>
>   
>> Glen Tortorella wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Since I have a new, more "advanced" body, the N80, I tried taking
>>> some shots I would have avoided in the past.  The results were
>>> awful--
>>> not one good shot on the entire role, a miserable 0-for-24 (Kodak
>>> Gold 200).
>>>
>>> In the past, I would avoid two types of shots: 1) indoor shots
>>> and 2)
>>> outdoor "high sun" shots in the fair weather months (i.e. during
>>> the
>>> hours of about 10:00-4:00).  In doing so, I have assured myself
>>> decent, but not necessarily perfect, results.  Since the N80  
>>> has a
>>> better metering system (10-segment) and a pop-up flash that is
>>> supposed to be pretty good, I figured: "let me see what it can  
>>> do."
>>> As I have said, the results were dreadful.  Here are the main
>>> issues.
>>>
>>> 1) Every indoor flash shot showed at least moderate spotlight/ 
>>> wash-
>>> out effect of the subject (people).
>>>
>>>   
>> Dial in -0.7 stops of Flash exposure compensation when shooting
>> people with Nikon flashes (including the popup). Leave this
>> permanently dialed in.
>>
>>
>> 
>>> 2) On the outdoor "high sun" shots, the camera turned a seemingly
>>> minor shadows (through the viewfinder) on the subject's face  
>>> into a
>>> black blobs that covered almost all of the subject's face.
>>>
>>>   
>> Add flash, leave the -0.7 stops of FEC dialed in.
>>
>>
>> 
>>> 3) When taking indoor shots with the flash, I would meter (10-
>>> segment) something like 1/30 or 1/45 or perhaps 1/60 at, say, f2.
>>> With the flash powered up, I do not think it ever metered
>>> differently.  For example, 1/30 at f/2 was still 1/30 at f/2
>>> with the
>>> flash enabled.  Is this correct, or is there something wrong
>>> with my
>>> camera?
>>>
>>>   
>> That is correct, the N80 will attempt to balance the exposure  
>> if it
>> can get the shutter between 1/125 and 1/30 or so, with a slight
>> bias towards the flash illumination (hence the FEC I  
>>>

Re: Another K10D observation

[Margus Männik]

Hi,

it's because of lithium-ion batteries itself are very non-linear. As 
mentioned - if there's no controller  inside (like Sony Info-Lithium 
batteries do have), there's basically no proper method to check the 
battery state. Pentax batteries are just "pure" Li-ion elements (and 
overheat sensor), so we have to live with that.

BR, Margus


Bob Sullivan wrote:
> The battery indicator is very non-linear.


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Re: Leica Digilux 3 performance proof

[Cotty]

On 04/10/07, Roman Melihhov, discombobulated, unleashed:

>What do you think?

I think this is a Pentax list. It would be kinder to listers to label
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was Re: Leica Digilux 3 performance proof

[Roman Melihhov]

I'm speaking of extremely high noise even at ISO 100

http://www.leica-camera.us/photography/d_system/digilux_3/

click at PERFORMANCE PROOF link to see large sample image taken at ISO 
100. It won't require a microscope to see poisoning amounts of high ISO 
noise at a very low ISO choice. I was interested because saw this baby 
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Re: PESO: You've asked for it

[Igor Roshchin]

Thu Oct 4 13:50:16 EDT 2007
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

> On Oct 4, 2007, at 10:23 AM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:
> 
> > Some more night-time industry shots:
> >
> > http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/10368727
> >
> > ...and...
> >
> >  http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/10440633
> 
> I particularly like the second ... that glowing plume is wonderful  
> with all the glow from the structures and reflection.
> 

My first impression was that I liked 10368727 better.
It has some crispness in every detail and reflection.

After looking at the second longer, I realized that I also
like the glowing aura. That and a bit less sharp edges of the structures
make it looking more like a painting.
However, something prevents it from working for me to the full extent.
I am not sure what that is: colors, framing, or something else.

Regarding the framing, - 
I suspect that the steam-pipe appearing in a weak zone of the photo
(i.e. not the center, not in any of the 2/3rd, etc.) is responsible
for that impression.
I wonder if cropping the photo vertically on the left
along the first step of the roof would change this impression.

Another (alternative) change that may also work for me is to crop it 
horizontally from the top about 1/10th of the height (so it is still not 
symmetrical vertically).


As for the first shot, - it looks like there is a tiny CCW tilt. 
... and it does not seem as just the effect of the barge. I see it
e.g. in the vertical line going connecting the right edge of the "arcelor" 
builging with its reflection.

HTH,

Igor



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PESO 2007 - 41b - GDG

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

This photo reflects my feelings of work and life in the last  
week ... ;-)

   http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/41b.htm

Comments, critique, and a good cup of tea all appreciated.

enjoy
Godfrey

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Re: Smoker

[Jack Davis]

In my case it was.."Hummm..I wonder why he took that".
Reading the reactions is one of my favorite sports too.

Jack
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> Thanks for looking, Jack. Unfortunately, it's not a Pentax pic:-). In
> regard to substantive content, it's a picture of a woman smoking. I
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> the bush. I think it's most interesting in the reactions it
> engenders. They range from utter disgust to high praise. If nothing
> else, it provokes. 
> Paul
>  -- Original message --
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> > they're looking for.
> > Guess I'm still trying to find its substantive content.
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> > --- Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Re: Smoker

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Thanks for looking, Jack. Unfortunately, it's not a Pentax pic:-). In regard to 
substantive content, it's a picture of a woman smoking. I suppose that's at 
least as substantive as an empty chair or a bird in the bush. I think it's most 
interesting in the reactions it engenders. They range from utter disgust to 
high praise. If nothing else, it provokes. 
Paul
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> they're looking for.
> Guess I'm still trying to find its substantive content.
> 
> Jack
> --- Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > The existential photographer. :-)
> > 
> > Tom C.
> > 
> > 
> > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > >No need to be sorry, Dave (or Robb). Thanks for looking. I consider
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> > >Paul
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Re: CS-3 Printing Problem

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Interesting. Borderless and conventional printing both work fine with the R2400 
and CS1. Size and positioning are right on. Perhaps Epson is just two 
generations behind.
Paul
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> What printer, printer driver, etc?
> 
> I find that the Epson driver for the R2400 and 1270 present accurate  
> paper size and printable area to CS2 and Lightroom if I don't use the  
> "borderless" options. If I use borderless, the sizing goes wonky ...  
> yeah, another technical term. ;-) Similarly, defining custom sizing  
> for roll paper printing with either presents a lot of "hit and miss"  
> experimentation opportunity.
> 
> Godfrey
> 
> 
> On Oct 4, 2007, at 9:18 AM, Mark Cassino wrote:
> 
> > I've been doing more printing with CS3 lately, and am
> > finding that it incorrectly centers images on the
> > paper. For example - I just sent a 12x18 inch image to
> > be printed on a 13x19 inch sheet of paper. CS3
> > "centered" the 12 inch axis 0.14 from the top of the
> > page and .86 inches from the bottom. Obviously, a 12
> > inch image centers on a 13 inch piece of paper with .5
> > inches on each side...
> >
> > CS3 even shows the incorrect figures in the box that
> > displays margins, and shows the image off center in
> > the preview. But if I force it to .5 on both sides -
> > it says that the image will be cropped and does indeed
> > crop it...
> >
> > I figured it was buggy Win X64 drivers from Epson -
> > but then re-installed CS2 and found that it prints
> > just fine and dandy.  So now I'm keeping CS2 around
> > just for prints.
> >
> > Anyone else experince this?
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Re: Smoker

[Jack Davis]

Paul, you might offer this to the Pentax gallery. It's hard to say what
they're looking for.
Guess I'm still trying to find its substantive content.

Jack
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> The existential photographer. :-)
> 
> Tom C.
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> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: PESO: You've asked for it

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Oct 4, 2007, at 10:23 AM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:

> Some more night-time industry shots:
>
> http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/10368727
>
> ...and...
>
>  http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/10440633

I particularly like the second ... that glowing plume is wonderful  
with all the glow from the structures and reflection.

Godfrey

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Re: PESO: Smoker

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Indeed. Thanks for looking.
Paul
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> What an ugly scene. No comment on the quality of the photograph...
> 
> G
> 
> On Oct 3, 2007, at 7:18 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
> 
> > Shot through my car window with the Panasonic TZ1.
> > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6491615&size=lg
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Re: CS-3 Printing Problem

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

What printer, printer driver, etc?

I find that the Epson driver for the R2400 and 1270 present accurate  
paper size and printable area to CS2 and Lightroom if I don't use the  
"borderless" options. If I use borderless, the sizing goes wonky ...  
yeah, another technical term. ;-) Similarly, defining custom sizing  
for roll paper printing with either presents a lot of "hit and miss"  
experimentation opportunity.

Godfrey


On Oct 4, 2007, at 9:18 AM, Mark Cassino wrote:

> I've been doing more printing with CS3 lately, and am
> finding that it incorrectly centers images on the
> paper. For example - I just sent a 12x18 inch image to
> be printed on a 13x19 inch sheet of paper. CS3
> "centered" the 12 inch axis 0.14 from the top of the
> page and .86 inches from the bottom. Obviously, a 12
> inch image centers on a 13 inch piece of paper with .5
> inches on each side...
>
> CS3 even shows the incorrect figures in the box that
> displays margins, and shows the image off center in
> the preview. But if I force it to .5 on both sides -
> it says that the image will be cropped and does indeed
> crop it...
>
> I figured it was buggy Win X64 drivers from Epson -
> but then re-installed CS2 and found that it prints
> just fine and dandy.  So now I'm keeping CS2 around
> just for prints.
>
> Anyone else experince this?


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Re: PESO: Smoker

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

What an ugly scene. No comment on the quality of the photograph...

G

On Oct 3, 2007, at 7:18 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

> Shot through my car window with the Panasonic TZ1.
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6491615&size=lg


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Re: PESO - On the Beach

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Oct 4, 2007, at 6:57 AM, frank theriault wrote:

> This is Mel.  These are his rock piles.  They're Mel's Rock Piles.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2hvkj8
>
> http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RwTXdMA-_zI/Axg/ 
> wqZ1BnQtVYM/s1600-h/oct_3+001.jpg
>
> If you've never seen SCTV you'll have no idea what I'm talking about.
> Whether you get the "joke" or not, feel free to comment on the pic.
> :-)

Never seen SCTV but this is a cute picture. It's a little glarey ...  
bright, slightly harsh ... but the content is great anyway.

Godfrey


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Re: Leica Digilux 3 performance proof

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

I don't know what you see as so "disappointing" in this snapshot. Can  
you articulate?

The 4/3 System sensor is 13.5x18mm.

I don't know what "press releases" say about it, nor has the review  
press been overly enthusiastic about it, but the Digilux3/L1 siblings  
are in fact excellent performers. Many of the photos I've presented  
here this year are taken with the L1 and been given fairly  
enthusiastic response.

Godfrey



On Oct 4, 2007, at 5:21 AM, Roman Melihhov wrote:

> Despite impressive press releases image test at ISO 100 is kinda
> disappointing but then again it incorporates sensor 17x13mm
>
> http://www.leica-camera.us/assets/file/download.php? 
> filename=file_1279.jpg


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PESO: You've asked for it

[Ralf R. Radermacher]

Some more night-time industry shots:

http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/10368727

...and...

 http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/10440633

As always, your comments and suggestions... :-)

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Re: PESO - Yosemite Color

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 10/4/2007 7:58:29 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On 10/4/07,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/ycolor.htm

That's really nice  Marnie.

Well  done.

Cheers,

Dave

===
Thanks,  Dave.

Marnie aka Doe  

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RE: PESO - Wychwood Park

[Bob W]

Frank,

I would like to see you take some pictures of the bike in action.
Obviously it wouldn't be you on it, unfortunately, but I reckon those
pictures would be worth seeing. Often the best photography is of
subject matter which is the photographer's first passion - taking
pictures is ancillary. 

There is some very good bike photography around. An exhibition is
about to open at the HOST gallery in London, just around the corner
from Magnum's offices, which promises some good bike stuff:

http://www.rapha.cc/index.php?page=343

http://www.hostgallery.co.uk/

But I bet you could do just as well as these guys.

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> 
> It is, of course, a fixie.  Trackbike to be exact.  I've got some
> (bad) pix of the bike, and I keep telling myself that I've got to
take
> some nicer ones for posterity (and this list).
> 
> One of these days.
> 
> Thanks to everyone for looking and commenting!
> 
> cheers,
> frank


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Re: PESO - Wychwood Park

[frank theriault]

On 10/4/07, Evan Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Oct 4, 2007, at 3:15 AM, David Mann wrote:
>
> > On Oct 4, 2007, at 4:33 AM, Evan Hanson wrote:
> >
> >> tre cool!  Is that a fixie your on?
> >
> > If it isn't then he's in for a lot of fun at the end of the street :)
> >
> > - Dave
> >
>
> Har!

It is, of course, a fixie.  Trackbike to be exact.  I've got some
(bad) pix of the bike, and I keep telling myself that I've got to take
some nicer ones for posterity (and this list).

One of these days.

Thanks to everyone for looking and commenting!

cheers,
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CS-3 Printing Problem

[Mark Cassino]

I've been doing more printing with CS3 lately, and am
finding that it incorrectly centers images on the
paper. For example - I just sent a 12x18 inch image to
be printed on a 13x19 inch sheet of paper. CS3
"centered" the 12 inch axis 0.14 from the top of the
page and .86 inches from the bottom. Obviously, a 12
inch image centers on a 13 inch piece of paper with .5
inches on each side...  

CS3 even shows the incorrect figures in the box that
displays margins, and shows the image off center in
the preview. But if I force it to .5 on both sides -
it says that the image will be cropped and does indeed
crop it...

I figured it was buggy Win X64 drivers from Epson -
but then re-installed CS2 and found that it prints
just fine and dandy.  So now I'm keeping CS2 around
just for prints.

Anyone else experince this? 

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Re: PESO: The Hidden Bridge

[John Francis]

On Thu, Oct 04, 2007 at 09:01:14AM -0500, Charles Robinson wrote:
> On Oct 4, 2007, at 0:18, John Celio wrote:
> > Good point about the foreground.  Someone else mentioned clearing the
> > branches from the river.  That idea both intrigues and repulses  
> > me.  On the
> > one hand, it might make the image better, drawing attention away  
> > from the
> > cluttered foreground.  On the other hand, I'm not sure I like the  
> > idea of
> > changing a scene I stumble upon.  It kind of bothers me.
> 
> I'm 100% with you on this one, John.

It depends on the context, if you ask me.   If what you do is
something that might have been done anyway (such as, say, tidying
up some litter in the hedgerow) then I'd have no problem with it.

So, in this case, if the Park Ranger would consider removing the
branches I'd say it would be OK to save him (or her) some work,
while at the same time creating a different image.


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Re: Fine Art Paper for the Epson 2200 - any recommendations

[Mark Cassino]

--- mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> I usually clean glass with a ball of newsprint paper
> slightly dampened with vinegar.  Although I haven't
> done much framing of inkjet prints, I have never
> noticed any outgas residue.

I think I'll give that a try - so far the best stuff
I've found is the purple cleaner - not sure what the
name of it is. It's purple, though... :-)

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RE: OT: Roadmaps (RE: Press releases from today... (and roadmap)

[Bob W]

> >
> >  "Let's take the clothes off this idea and see who gets a hard
on"
> 
> ===
> Never heard that one before. I think that can only be  said 
> in meetings that 
> are all male. 
> 

I think I got it from a Jane Austen novel, actually.

Bob


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Re: PESO - "China" - may have been influenced by Godfrey's coffee shops

[ann sanfedele]

>On 10/2/07, Igor Roshchin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
>
>>Recently, sitting with friends in a coffee shop, I was playing with
>>my sun-glasses, trying to find the right view angle and to frame the
>>shot so it would make sense.
>>(I am fond of interesting reflections in general).
>>
>>I didn't find what I was looking for. The closest contender would
>>be this shot:
>>http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Mixed-2005-2007/China-IMGP6127.jpg
>>"China".
>>
>>Usually I try not to post here pictures that I don't quite like myself,
>>but in this case, I hope that someone may spark some idea for how
>>it can be done better.
>>
>>
>
>  
>
Like the idea - I think one of the elements has to be sharp for it to 
work better..
Say, weren't those sunglasses recalled?  ;)

ann

>  
>



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RE: PESO - On the Beach

[Bob W]

I was expecting a fat man in Speedos. 

Good subject, but the light & shadows seem to play distracting tricks
with the rock piles.

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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of frank theriault
> Sent: 04 October 2007 14:58
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: PESO - On the Beach
> 
> This is Mel.  These are his rock piles.  They're Mel's Rock Piles.
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/2hvkj8
> 
> http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RwTXdMA-_zI/Axg/wq
> Z1BnQtVYM/s1600-h/oct_3+001.jpg
> 
> If you've never seen SCTV you'll have no idea what I'm talking
about.
> Whether you get the "joke" or not, feel free to comment on the pic.
> :-)
> 
> thanks in advance,
> frank
> 


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