K10D PEF or DNG?

[Antti-Pekka Virjonen]

Hi,

Which do you use as K10D Raw, PEF or DNG?

Antti-Pekka



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Re: Prints (was: Paid For)

[Mark Roberts]

William Robb wrote:

>I'm thinking I should run a cable from my computer over to the TV.
>The controls aren't that bad on my TV though.
>It's kind of strange that it doesn't just start a slide show when a 
card is 
>inserted, since there really is no other reason to put one into the 
slot 
>than to view a slide show.

BTW: You can make a video slide show with Microsoft PhotoStory, an 
oddly-underpublicized bit of free software for Windows XP.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/digitalphotography/photostory/default.mspx

Not as good as Photo-to-Movie (which costs $50.00), but what the heck, 
it's free.


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Re: FS Friday: FREE cable release for *istD

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It's not Friday.

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> I'll ship it for free to anyone in the US or for shipping costs
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Re: Seattle at Dusk

[Ken Waller]

Would be a much stronger image without all the blank foreground. Crop just 
below the lowest lights & see for yourself.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - 
From: "Rick Womer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 10:08 PM
Subject: PESO: Seattle at Dusk


> Another from my recent Seattle trip.  There are a few
> open wooden piers along the harbor with beautiful
> views of the city and Puget Sound.
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6641058&size=lg
>
> K10D, DA 16-45, ISO 800, f/4 @ 1/10, handheld, RAW via
> Lightroom.
>
> I eagerly anticipate comments and critiques.
>
> Rick


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Re: Prints (was: Paid For)

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Prints and iPod Touch viewing are different experiences. Both are  
quite good, however, just different.

Godfrey

On Nov 15, 2007, at 7:48 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:

> But if someone really likes a print, you can just give it to them, I
> don't think I'd be giving away my iPod, (if I had one that is).
>
> Jim King wrote:
>> Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:03:03 -0800
>>
>>
>>> Mark Roberts wrote:
>>>
>>>
 Personally, I *love* good prints. I love making good prints
 and viewing them. [...] the only time I make a print is when
 it's going to be 8 x 12 or larger.

>>> Same here. But I do occasionally make smaller prints too.
>>> There's something to be said for a pocket book of photos. :-)
>>>
>>
>>
>> That's one of the things the new iPod was made for...
>>

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Re: PESO: Hare's Foot

[Bruce Dayton]

composition and background are very nice.  The lighting works pretty
well except that it seems just a tad too exposed - perhaps toning it
down just a little wouldn't hurt?

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Thursday, November 15, 2007, 4:34:21 AM, you wrote:

DS> G'day All,

DS> Another Voigtländer shot from the weekend (~180kb):

DS> 

DS> K10D, Voigtländer 125mm f2.5, 1/320 @ f5.6, ISO 200

DS> Any & all comments welcome.

DS> Cheers,

DS> Dave




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Re: Shooting in low temperature outdoors

[Boris Liberman]

Bob, I am not Russian, I am Jewish, and before that time I wasn' too 
much into photography. Therefore is my request for advise.

Boris


Bob W wrote:
> You're Russian. You must have had cold weather before!
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Re: Don't quite know how to respond to this...

[Doug Franklin]

Bob W wrote:

> [...] feeling of having the dried Rizla stuck to my lip, [...]

Do you /really/ think they're going to know what a Rizla is? :-)

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Re: New Tmax400

[P. J. Alling]

B&H Photo sells them

http://tinyurl.com/2gswbx

Brendan MacRae wrote:
> Ah, yes! But does Kodak still make the Tmax direct
> positive developing kit?
>
> Love those b/w slides.
>
> -Brendan
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Re: GESO: Lindsey Se;ects

[P. J. Alling]

Maybe she'll lend it to you, if you ask nicely...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> No problem. I love it. If I had her bum, I might keep my hand on it too! :-)
> Paul
>  -- Original message --
> From: "wendy beard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   
>> Too many hand-on-bum shots.
>> When I first saw the thumbnails I thought #5 (lindsey 2.3) looked like
>> she'd just sat on some chewing gum. Then as I scanned the thumbnails
>> my overactive imagination saw her checking her behind on numerous
>> occasions for the gum.
>> Please take my comments with a pinch of salt.
>> Three days of software training is starting to addle my brain :)
>>
>> Wendy
>> (being flippant)
>>
>> On Nov 11, 2007 9:27 PM, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>> If any one is still interested, these are the selects that Lindsey
>>> wants to send to her agents. Comments welcome.
>>> Paul
>>> http://photo.net/photodb/folder.tcl?folder_id=782169
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Re: Shooting in low temperature outdoors

[Bob Sullivan]

Boris,
My climate is regularly -10 degrees C in the winter.
I have not experienced problems taking the camera out for shots and
then putting it away again in a bag.
As Cotty says, the real problem comes when returning a cold camera
(-10 deg C) to a warm interior.
(As in, I've left the camera/lens in a cold, parked car for 2-3 hours
in -10 deg C temperatures.)
The cold air has no capacity to hold water, but the warm air has water
suspended in it.
The cold camera and lens will precipitate the water out of the air and
onto the camera - internal parts if not careful.
Put the cold camera/lenses into an airtight plastic bag before
entering the warm environment.
After 30 to 60 minutes, the camera will reach room temperature and can
be removed.
(To speed the process, you can use your body heat to get it warm.)
Regards,  Bob S.


On Nov 15, 2007 4:27 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Keep camera and lenses in a shoulder bag. It will act as a thermal
> buffer. Keep them in the bag unless you're using them. When you go
> indoors, let the bag sit a few minutes before opening it,
> particularly if it is humid indoors or if outside temperatures are
> sub-zero or it was very wet.
>
> Unless you go outdoors and have the camera and lenses out for long
> enough to completely and thoroughly cold-soak in sub-freezing
> temperatures, you should have no problems. This is exactly what I did
> on my trip around the US last year, with days and nights of
> temperatures in the bitter 0-15 F range. A few minutes exposure to
> very cold temperatures will not make any difference at all.
>
> Godfrey
>
>
>
> On Nov 15, 2007, at 10:23 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:
>
> > Hi there.
> >
> > It turns out that I have my tickets for Prague next weekend. I am
> > going
> > to take my K10D, DA 21 and FA 43 lenses. The main issue that still
> > remains to be resolved is that of taking the lenses and the camera
> > back
> > and forth between indoors (warm?!) and outdoors (cold?!). I've no
> > experience with this kind of shooting whatsoever.
> >
> > Any hints of practical nature or rules to be observed would be most
> > appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Boris
> >
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Re: PESO: Seattle at Dusk

[Rick Womer]

Thanks, Boris!

--- Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Rick, this is really good.
> 
> For some strange reason it looks to me like a scene
> from a Doom-like 
> game. The foreground specifically makes me think so.
> Don't take that too 
> seriously, 'cause this is my warped mind talking
> here. This is really a 
> very fine photograph.
> 
> Boris
> 
> Rick Womer wrote:
> > Another from my recent Seattle trip.  There are a
> few
> > open wooden piers along the harbor with beautiful
> > views of the city and Puget Sound.
> > 
> >
>
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6641058&size=lg
> > 
> > K10D, DA 16-45, ISO 800, f/4 @ 1/10, handheld, RAW
> via
> > Lightroom.
> > 
> > I eagerly anticipate comments and critiques.
> > 
> > Rick
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  
>

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Re: A question about chimping

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 11/15/2007 8:50:58 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
My point was that it's far better than having  nothing to preview and can 
make the difference between getting a good shot and  not getting one. 

Tom C.

==
Especially when one is  in a location or situation that cannot be revisited.

Though, I admit, I  forget to look most of the time. I am making an effort 
now to do it more often.  It can tell me when I am way off -- framing or 
exposure-wise. For instance, if I  look I can spot when I am shooting crooked 
-- 
horizons, as that is something I  tend to do.
 
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Re: FS Friday: FREE cable release for *istD

[P. J. Alling]

It doesn't actually seem to be for sale either...

Bob Blakely wrote:
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>
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>
>
>   
>> I have a cable release for an *istD that I found after I sold mine.
>> I'll ship it for free to anyone in the US or for shipping costs
>> outside the US if it turns out to cost more than a couple of bucks to
>> ship. I also have an *istD manual available for the same terms if
>> anyone's interested.
>> 
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Re: DNG Question

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

For me, the decision to convert to DNG was based on the *ist DS PEF  
files (and other cameras' RAW formats) being uncompressed ...  
converting all RAW files to DNG format saved over 40Gbytes of storage  
space. Embedding the original PEF files would actually make the files  
larger than they were originally.

As of right now, I separately archive all PEF and other RAW formats,  
all my files are converted to DNG on the fly when transferred/ 
imported by Lightroom and a separate backup copy is written to  
another hard drive. Since I started using DNGs, I have not yet found  
a single occasion to return to the original RAW file, however, so at  
some point I'll likely just discard the original RAW archive.

Godfrey

On Nov 15, 2007, at 11:57 AM, Evan Hanson wrote:

> For those of you who convert to DNG after shooting raw, do you embed
> the original PEF?  I just converted all my files to DNG but I didn't
> include the original now I'm thinking I should do it again before I
> get rid of the originals.
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Re: PESO: Scribbles

[Jack Davis]

Brian, I somehow missed this when originally posted. Seems like I've
said that before. =)
Striking, well captured image. Crop is terrific.

Jack
--- Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Good catch. Most would have missed this. Nicely rendered.
> Paul
> On Nov 15, 2007, at 7:06 AM, Brian Walters wrote:
> 
> > G'day all
> >
> > I took myself off the the annual 'Sculpture by the Sea' exhibition 
> 
> > on Monday.  This is an annual event, now in its 11th year, which  
> > features outdoor sculptures along a 2km coastal walk between  
> > Tamarama and Bondi, on Sydney's eastern beaches.
> >
> > I'll probably put up a small GESO shortly but thought I'd post this
>  
> > for comment. I found the shadows cast by one of the sculptures more
>  
> > interesting than the sculpture itself.
> >
> > http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/77689/Scribbles.html
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > ++
> > Brian Walters
> > Western Sydney Australia
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Re: FS Friday: FREE cable release for *istD

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Damned right! All folks can and should be proud of where they live and be 
Euro-centrist, Asia-centrist, Aussie-centrist, Afro-centrist or whatever.

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New 2007 Voigtlander SL-II Lenses

[Beaker]

FYI-

Stephen Gandy at CameraQuest has the new 2007 Voigtlander SL-II  
Pentax KA mount lenses up on his site.
http://www.cameraquest.com/Voigt_SL2.htm

They are the 40 mm f2 aspherical pancake & the 58 mm f1.4 Nokton  
manual focus lenses.

He has a nice write up of the lenses.

Cheers
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(No, I don't have any connection with CameraQuest)

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Re: Good reflections needed, help please!

[David Savage]

At 10:14 AM 16/11/2007, you wrote:
>But, there's no way I'm going to find a piece of
>granite as big as I need it (30" x 48" roughly) and it
>would be way too expensive in any event.
>
>Any suggestions?

Black perspex/acrylic ?

Cheers,

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Re: A question about chimping

[Paul Stenquist]

That would be "My studio is directly adjacent to my desktop computer..."
On Nov 15, 2007, at 9:05 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

> Yes, there's a remote assistant. You need 1.2 firmware or later. I've
> used it. It's great compared to the old D version. Mainly because the
> write speed is so much faster. I use it when I shoot with an art
> director. Keeps them entertained :-). My studio is directly adjacent
> to my desktop cp,[iter, so I can cable USB from a powered hub to the
> camera and display it on my 21" monitor.
> Paul
> On Nov 15, 2007, at 6:16 PM, William Robb wrote:
>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "David Savage"
>> Subject: Re: A question about chimping
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> How about shooting tethered to your laptop & review that way?
>>>
>>
>> I don't have the Remote Assistant for the K10 (is there such a beast)
>> operational, and I believe I would need to upgrade the firmware and
>> give up
>> the ability to play with the AF offset.
>>
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Re: A question about chimping

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi"
Subject: Re: A question about chimping


>
> On Nov 15, 2007, at 3:16 PM, William Robb wrote:
>
>>> How about shooting tethered to your laptop & review that way?
>>
>> I don't have the Remote Assistant for the K10 (is there such a beast)
>> operational, and I believe I would need to upgrade the firmware and
>> give up
>> the ability to play with the AF offset.
>
> I haven't found much use to playing with AF offsets.
>
> The Pentax Remote Assistant for the K10D has been out for both
> Windows and Mac OS X users for some time now, I think it requires fw
> v1.2. Downloadable from the Pentax website...

My camera was quite out of adjustment from the factory. I'm pretty happy 
with how it is now, so at some point I will upgrade to the latest firmware. 
I don't have any tabletop work coming up that I know of, but I'll give the 
remote assistant a try, more than likely the next product shoot I do.

William Robb 


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Re: Good reflections needed, help please!

[Paul Stenquist]

I shot some pics for a bank on a formica tabletop. It produced nice,  
subtle reflections. And it wasn't even pure black. More of a grey  
with a pattern.
Paul
On Nov 15, 2007, at 8:14 PM, Brendan MacRae wrote:

> Does anyone do product shots on dark (black)
> reflective material that produces good, even
> reflections?
>
> I'm currently stumped working on a shoot for a local
> company. I have to shoot some video components on
> black (easy enough) but I'd like some good natural
> reflection from the surface they rest on.
>
> I've already tried tempered glass over black cloth
> (velour) but the reflections double up and look
> god-awful. There's a PS trick for reflections but it's
> simply too much work for anything but straight on
> views. All of my shots are oblique angles.
>
> This guy had a really good idea:
>
> http://strobist.blogspot.com/2006/08/on-assignment-shoot-your-shiny- 
> new.html
>
> But, there's no way I'm going to find a piece of
> granite as big as I need it (30" x 48" roughly) and it
> would be way too expensive in any event.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks ahead of time.
>
> -Brendan
>
>
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Re: PESO: Seattle at Dusk

[Rick Womer]

Thanks, Godfrey!

--- Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Nice shot, Rick!
> 
> G
> 
> On Nov 14, 2007, at 7:08 PM, Rick Womer wrote:
> 
> > Another from my recent Seattle trip.  There are a
> few
> > open wooden piers along the harbor with beautiful
> > views of the city and Puget Sound.
> >
> >
>
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6641058&size=lg
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> > K10D, DA 16-45, ISO 800, f/4 @ 1/10, handheld, RAW
> via
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Re: FS Friday: FREE cable release for *istD

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 11/15/2007 3:38:48 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It's not  Friday.

Regards,
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Re: FS Friday: FREE cable release for *istD

[Amita Guha]

Isn't it Friday in Europe yet?

On Nov 15, 2007 7:49 PM, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Close enough.  Take a muscle relaxer.
>
> Bob Blakely wrote:
> > It's not Friday.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Bob...
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> > Note: No trees were killed in the sending of this message,
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> >
> >
> >> I have a cable release for an *istD that I found after I sold mine.
> >> I'll ship it for free to anyone in the US or for shipping costs
> >> outside the US if it turns out to cost more than a couple of bucks to
> >> ship. I also have an *istD manual available for the same terms if
> >> anyone's interested.
> >
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Re: Prints (was: Paid For)

[Cotty]

On 15/11/07, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I recently purchased a new plasma television. One can insert an SD card into 
>a slot on the thing and get a slide show of the contents (providing the 
>contents are jpegs.).

Yah, I have a hard disk recorder / DVD with this. I tried it and it
works okay. We have a 26 inch LCD which seems small, but this in a
quaint English cottage, so actually a good size. Controls are dorky
though. Better to hook up Mac through one of the various interfaces
(zillions of them) and run a 'slide' show through that. What i really
want is a video projector, do a 'real' slide show ;-)



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Re: Prints (was: Paid For)

[P. J. Alling]

If they remember their e-mail address, that is.

Adam Maas wrote:
> But if it's an iPhone (Essentially the same as the iPod Touch, just with a 
> phone and email) you can just email it to them ;-)
>
> -Adam
>
>
> P. J. Alling wrote:
>   
>> But if someone really likes a print, you can just give it to them, I 
>> don't think I'd be giving away my iPod, (if I had one that is).
>>
>> Jim King wrote:
>> 
>>> Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:03:03 -0800
>>>
>>>   
>>>   
 Mark Roberts wrote:

 
 
> Personally, I *love* good prints. I love making good prints
> and viewing them. [...] the only time I make a print is when
> it's going to be 8 x 12 or larger.
>   
>   
 Same here. But I do occasionally make smaller prints too.
 There's something to be said for a pocket book of photos. :-)
 
 
>>> That's one of the things the new iPod was made for...
>>>
>>> Regards, Jim
>>>
>>>   
>>>   
>> 
>
>
>
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Good reflections needed, help please!

[Brendan MacRae]

Does anyone do product shots on dark (black)
reflective material that produces good, even
reflections?

I'm currently stumped working on a shoot for a local
company. I have to shoot some video components on
black (easy enough) but I'd like some good natural
reflection from the surface they rest on.

I've already tried tempered glass over black cloth
(velour) but the reflections double up and look
god-awful. There's a PS trick for reflections but it's
simply too much work for anything but straight on
views. All of my shots are oblique angles.

This guy had a really good idea:

http://strobist.blogspot.com/2006/08/on-assignment-shoot-your-shiny-new.html

But, there's no way I'm going to find a piece of
granite as big as I need it (30" x 48" roughly) and it
would be way too expensive in any event.

Any suggestions?

Thanks ahead of time.

-Brendan


  

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Re: FS Friday: FREE cable release for *istD

[Bob Sullivan]

LOL
Bob, you are more fun when you are at full asshole capacity!
Regards,  Bob S.


On Nov 15, 2007 6:18 PM, Bob Blakely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm already on serious meds for my hip. This is as mellow as I get. Thank
> your God that I'm not drug free and at full asshole capacity.
>
> Regards,
> Bob...
> -
> Note: No trees were killed in the sending of this message,
> but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
>
> From: "Scott Loveless" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
> > Close enough.  Take a muscle relaxer.
> >
> > Bob Blakely wrote:
> >> It's not Friday.
> >>
> >> From: "Amita Guha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>
> >>> I have a cable release for an *istD that I found after I sold mine.
> >>> I'll ship it for free to anyone in the US or for shipping costs
> >>> outside the US if it turns out to cost more than a couple of bucks to
> >>> ship. I also have an *istD manual available for the same terms if
> >>> anyone's interested.
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Re: New Tmax400

[Brendan MacRae]

Ah, yes! But does Kodak still make the Tmax direct
positive developing kit?

Love those b/w slides.

-Brendan
--- Derby Chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> Kodak taketh, and Kodak giveth.
> 
>
http://www.kodak.com/global/en/professional/products/films/bw/tMax400.jhtml?id=0.2.26.14.17.14&lc=en
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PESO 2007 - 47d, 47e - GDG

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Continuing to process ...

   http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/47d.htm
   http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/47e.htm

Comments and critique always appreciated.

enjoy
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Re: Prints (was: Paid For)

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Cotty"
Subject: Re: Prints (was: Paid For)


> On 15/11/07, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>I recently purchased a new plasma television. One can insert an SD card 
>>into
>>a slot on the thing and get a slide show of the contents (providing the
>>contents are jpegs.).
>
> Yah, I have a hard disk recorder / DVD with this. I tried it and it
> works okay. We have a 26 inch LCD which seems small, but this in a
> quaint English cottage, so actually a good size. Controls are dorky
> though. Better to hook up Mac through one of the various interfaces
> (zillions of them) and run a 'slide' show through that. What i really
> want is a video projector, do a 'real' slide show ;-)

That would involve buying a Mac..
I'm thinking I should run a cable from my computer over to the TV.
The controls aren't that bad on my TV though.
It's kind of strange that it doesn't just start a slide show when a card is 
inserted, since there really is no other reason to put one into the slot 
than to view a slide show.

William Robb 


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Re: FS Friday: FREE cable release for *istD

[David Savage]

It is here.

:-)

Cheers,

Dave

On Nov 16, 2007 8:33 AM, Bob Blakely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It's not Friday.
>
> Regards,
> Bob...

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Re: Those looking for a FA*300/4.5 tripod mount ...

[David Savage]

I've made one to use the Manfrotto QR system.



It's since been black anodised.

Cheers,

Dave

On Nov 16, 2007 2:21 AM, Ken Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The 300mm f4.5 FA is one of my most used lenses - I use a camera mounted "L"
> bracket (from Kirk http://www.kirkphoto.com/ )to accomplish quick
> re-orientation from portrait to landscape.
>
> Kenneth Waller
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RE: FS Friday: FREE cable release for *istD

[Tom C]

Maybe this was a pre-sale advertisement...


Tom C.

> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: pdml@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: FS Friday: FREE cable release for *istD
> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:33:39 -0800
>
> It's not Friday.
>
> Regards,
> Bob...
> -
> Note: No trees were killed in the sending of this message,
> but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
>
> From: "Amita Guha" 
>
>
>>I have a cable release for an *istD that I found after I sold mine.
>> I'll ship it for free to anyone in the US or for shipping costs
>> outside the US if it turns out to cost more than a couple of bucks to
>> ship. I also have an *istD manual available for the same terms if
>> anyone's interested.
>
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Re: Prints (was: Paid For)

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Nov 15, 2007, at 3:51 PM, Cotty wrote:

> On 15/11/07, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>> I recently purchased a new plasma television. One can insert an SD  
>> card into
>> a slot on the thing and get a slide show of the contents  
>> (providing the
>> contents are jpegs.).
>
> Yah, I have a hard disk recorder / DVD with this. I tried it and it
> works okay. We have a 26 inch LCD which seems small, but this in a
> quaint English cottage, so actually a good size. Controls are dorky
> though. Better to hook up Mac through one of the various interfaces
> (zillions of them) and run a 'slide' show through that. What i really
> want is a video projector, do a 'real' slide show ;-)

Or an Apple TV ... drop JPEGs into iPhoto on your new laptop, view on  
the television without having to hook anything else up. ;-)

Godfrey

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RE: A question about chimping

[Tom C]

> 
>>
>> My point was that it's far better than having nothing to preview and can
>> make the difference between getting a good shot and not getting one.
> 
> It can as easily be the difference between getting a crappy shot and an even
> crappier one, depending on what you are not photographing while you are
> looking at what you have shot.
> 
> William Robb
> 
 
In this case, I know you're just arguing to argue... :-)

Of course it's possible you're right. But considering the scene may be a static 
one there is plenty of time to look.  On the other hand if it's the space 
shuttle basting off, there's not a lot of time.

Tom C.

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Re: PESO -- Final Glory

[Ken Waller]

Mostly what Paul said.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PESO -- Final Glory


> Beautiful color, nice scene. You might have placed the burning bush more 
> to the right. You could still do that with a crop. That would also get rid 
> of that square thing next to the road. You might also clone out the 
> telephone wires. That would greatly improve the shot. It's a fairly easy 
> job since they're so thin, and you have indefinite shapes to with which to 
> work.
> Paul
> -- Original message --
> From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> The peak colors around here were over a couple of weekends ago, but it
>> was raining so no good photos.  Some species haven't even started, I
>> guess you wouldn't want to overload something.  I hope this is at least
>> interesting in it's banality.  (The "tree" is a burning bush I believe).
>>
>> http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/PESO%20--%20finalglory.html
>>
>> Equipment:  Pentax *ist-Ds/Vivitar vmc 70-210mm f2.8~4.0 (version 3)
>>
>> As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.
>>
>> -- 
>> The difference between individual intelligence and group intelligence is 
>> the
>> difference between Harvard University and the Harvard University football 
>> team.
>>
>> -- P. J. O'Roark


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FS Friday: FREE cable release for *istD

[Amita Guha]

I have a cable release for an *istD that I found after I sold mine.
I'll ship it for free to anyone in the US or for shipping costs
outside the US if it turns out to cost more than a couple of bucks to
ship. I also have an *istD manual available for the same terms if
anyone's interested.

Amita

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Re: FS Friday: FREE cable release for *istD

[Scott Loveless]

Close enough.  Take a muscle relaxer.

Bob Blakely wrote:
> It's not Friday.
> 
> Regards,
> Bob...
> -
> Note: No trees were killed in the sending of this message, 
> but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
>  
> From: "Amita Guha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> 
>> I have a cable release for an *istD that I found after I sold mine.
>> I'll ship it for free to anyone in the US or for shipping costs
>> outside the US if it turns out to cost more than a couple of bucks to
>> ship. I also have an *istD manual available for the same terms if
>> anyone's interested.
> 
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FS Friday - M lenses

[Scott Loveless]

I've used KEH's online quote wizard to determine a "grade" for each 
lens.  I've priced them accordingly  - slightly more than the quote 
wizard, less than KEH's retail price.  The glass is clear, no fungus or 
haze.  There are a couple of internal dust specs here and there.  I'll 
try to scrounge Pentax caps for these, but once I run out they'll ship 
with generic caps.

M28/3.5 EX  $55
M35/2.8 BGN $50  Surface marks on the barrel and paint nicks in the 
filter threads.
M50/1.7 EX  $60
M200/4  EX  $45  Includes the original clip-on front cap.
M85/2   BGN $150 This one has a few paint nicks in the filter threads and 
will not stop down to f22.  I can see no difference between f16 and f22. 
  I contacted Eric Hendrickson last year about this problem, and he told 
me that it might be a loose diaphragm pin.  He also said that if it was 
a diaphragm pin, he could fix it for about $30.

Paypal preferred.  Actual shipping costs will be added.

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Re: A question about chimping

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Tom C"
Subject: RE: A question about chimping



>
> My point was that it's far better than having nothing to preview and can 
> make the difference between getting a good shot and not getting one.

It can as easily be the difference between getting a crappy shot and an even 
crappier one, depending on what you are not photographing while you are 
looking at what you have shot.

William Robb 


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Re: A question about chimping

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Bob Blakely"
Subject: Re: A question about chimping


>I recently shot a hockey game (Ducks vs. Sharks). The first thing I did was
> shoot an example shot from my view point. This gave me the info I needed
> to:
>
> 1.Correct color temperature.
> 2.Correct exposure (+ 1 stop req.)
> 3.Check that these mods worked at the different views available to me.
>
> Worked great!

You used the tool as an exposure/colour meter. Thats the right way to do it.

>
> I guess I just don't "have enough confidence in my knowledge and[/or]
> abilities."
>

Perhaps, perhaps not, but you are a facetious asshole from time to time.

William Robb


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Re: Prints (was: Paid For)

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "John Francis"
Subject: Re: Prints (was: Paid For)



> Digital is making inroads at the other end of the age spectrum, too.
> My mother (90 a couple of weeks ago) has severe arthritis, and would
> find turning the pages in a photo album a rather laborious process.
> But with a digital photo frame she can look at a few hundred images
> without lifting a finger, even though she is otherwise not a part of
> the digital revolution (no PC, no eMail, etc.).  My brother and I
> coordinate so that either of us can produce an updated set of images
> on an SD card.  While a VGA-resolution image at 72dpi may not be up
> to the standards of a high-quality print on archive paper I doubt if
> the difference is discernable to my mother's eyes.

I recently purchased a new plasma television. One can insert an SD card into 
a slot on the thing and get a slide show of the contents (providing the 
contents are jpegs.).

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Re: OT - Nearly made the Darwin List

[Cotty]

>> A  misunderstanding after he had too much to drink?
>>
>> What, the bike led him  on? Didn't shout no?
>> 
> He spoke too soon...
>
 meh, whatever turns your crank
>>>
>>> This stems from total depravity.
>>>   
>>I think it's time we shifted gears here.
>
>Before things come completely derailed.

Okay, now I'm feeling pressure.



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Re: Shooting in low temperature outdoors

[Boris Liberman]

It may be below zero and it may be snowing in Prague. For that 
occurrence I need the instructions ;-).

Cheers!

Boris

Bob Sullivan wrote:
> Boris,
> Unless it's snowing or way below freezing, I see no problems.
> Regards,  Bob S.
> 
> On Nov 15, 2007 12:23 PM, Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi there.
>>
>> It turns out that I have my tickets for Prague next weekend. I am going
>> to take my K10D, DA 21 and FA 43 lenses. The main issue that still
>> remains to be resolved is that of taking the lenses and the camera back
>> and forth between indoors (warm?!) and outdoors (cold?!). I've no
>> experience with this kind of shooting whatsoever.
>>
>> Any hints of practical nature or rules to be observed would be most
>> appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Boris
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Re: PESO: Scribbles

[Boris Liberman]

Ditto!!!

Boris

David Savage wrote:
> Works for me.
> 
> Well seen.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Dave
> 
> On Nov 15, 2007 9:06 PM, Brian Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> G'day all
>>
>> I took myself off the the annual 'Sculpture by the Sea' exhibition on 
>> Monday.  This is an annual event, now in its 11th year, which features 
>> outdoor sculptures along a 2km coastal walk between Tamarama and Bondi, on 
>> Sydney's eastern beaches.
>>
>> I'll probably put up a small GESO shortly but thought I'd post this for 
>> comment. I found the shadows cast by one of the sculptures more interesting 
>> than the sculpture itself.
>>
>> http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/77689/Scribbles.html
> 


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Re: Prints (was: Paid For)

[Adam Maas]

But if it's an iPhone (Essentially the same as the iPod Touch, just with a 
phone and email) you can just email it to them ;-)

-Adam


P. J. Alling wrote:
> But if someone really likes a print, you can just give it to them, I 
> don't think I'd be giving away my iPod, (if I had one that is).
> 
> Jim King wrote:
>> Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:03:03 -0800
>>
>>   
>>> Mark Roberts wrote:
>>>
>>> 
 Personally, I *love* good prints. I love making good prints
 and viewing them. [...] the only time I make a print is when
 it's going to be 8 x 12 or larger.
   
>>> Same here. But I do occasionally make smaller prints too.
>>> There's something to be said for a pocket book of photos. :-)
>>> 
>>
>> That's one of the things the new iPod was made for...
>>
>> Regards, Jim
>>
>>   
> 
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Re: PESO: Seattle at Dusk

[ann sanfedele]

Rick Womer wrote:

>Thanks, Marnie.  The foreground is actually planks
>that lead diagonally into the buildings (an artistic
>thing, I was hoping).  They show up well on both of my
>monitors, but may not on yours.
>
>Rick
>  
>
Alas, the entire bottom of the frame is solid black on my monitor...
It did seem something had to be amiss, that is, I wouldn't have thought you
intentionally did what I saw.  

ann

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>  
>
>http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6641058&size=lg
>  
>
>>=
>>It's a  nice shot, but way too much dark foreground
>>(water?). It might be 
>>worthwhile to  crop this to a non-standard size and
>>put the emphasis on the  
>>buildings.
>>
>>HTH, Marnie aka Doe  
>>
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Re: Shooting in low temperature outdoors

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Keep camera and lenses in a shoulder bag. It will act as a thermal  
buffer. Keep them in the bag unless you're using them. When you go  
indoors, let the bag sit a few minutes before opening it,  
particularly if it is humid indoors or if outside temperatures are  
sub-zero or it was very wet.

Unless you go outdoors and have the camera and lenses out for long  
enough to completely and thoroughly cold-soak in sub-freezing  
temperatures, you should have no problems. This is exactly what I did  
on my trip around the US last year, with days and nights of  
temperatures in the bitter 0-15 F range. A few minutes exposure to  
very cold temperatures will not make any difference at all.

Godfrey


On Nov 15, 2007, at 10:23 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

> Hi there.
>
> It turns out that I have my tickets for Prague next weekend. I am  
> going
> to take my K10D, DA 21 and FA 43 lenses. The main issue that still
> remains to be resolved is that of taking the lenses and the camera  
> back
> and forth between indoors (warm?!) and outdoors (cold?!). I've no
> experience with this kind of shooting whatsoever.
>
> Any hints of practical nature or rules to be observed would be most
> appreciated.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Boris
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King Albert II on the dark side

[Ralf R. Radermacher]

On the ocassion of the annual King's Day, Canon and Nikon Belgium have
both been appointed as official suppliers to the Belgian royal court.

Ralf

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Re: Digital Noise (Was Re: PESO: Bowling Night)

[Paul Stenquist]

The shots in question aren't for the fat lady. They're for the  
corporation that owns the bowling alley. And they won't have a  
problem with the noise. Heck, some here can't even see it. If it was  
too obvious I could easily fix it. But that's beside the point. The  
noise is an isolated problem. It doesn't appear on any of the other  
shots I took that night. Only in this one area, under these lights,  
and with this clothing. I've shot 14,000 images with the K10D,  
without any being "ruined" by the camera. Although some were ruined  
by the photographer:-). Seriously, that may be the case here.  
Underexposure is the devil's handmaiden when it comes to noise. And I  
purposely underexposed the midrange and shadow detail in the two pics  
that show noise to avoid blowing out the highlights in the  
background. Probably a bad choice on my part. On the other hand, the  
K10D has proved to be an excellent choice.
Paul
On Nov 14, 2007, at 11:01 PM, Tom C wrote:

>
>
> Some of the noise appears to look like widely spaced bands, but in  
> other places it looks more like blotching. Again, this was shot at  
> ISO 500 and midrange brightness was increased a moderate amount.  
> Somewhat less than a stop I'd say. (I just did this last night, so  
> I remember. By tomorrow, I'll forget:-). Perhaps it has something  
> to do with light angles. It's a mix of direct flash and flash off  
> the ceiling. Don't know. But my client will never notice, and I'm  
> not going to point it out:-).
> Paul
>
> 
>
> At the risk of sounding crass...
>
> Paul, a fat lady in a bowling alley may never notice. The point is  
> not whether a client will notice or not. The point is that were the  
> vertical banding to present itself in an image that was a wonderful  
> one, one that took a lot of effort, time, or expense to make... or  
> one that was a rare image and could not be easily reproduced... or  
> one that was going to be printed at a large size and for sale...  
> the VPN will have effectively ruined the image.
>
> "Aren't your pictures worth a Pentax?"
>
> A camera that stands to ruin your images for you effectively undoes  
> anything else good, first class glass, antishake... you name it. A  
> ruined or compromised image is a ruined or compromised image.
>
> Tom C.
>
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Re: Don't quite know how to respond to this...

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

> I'VE CONTACTED YOU BEFORE ABOUT PENTAX CAMERAS. I SEE YOU USE THE K10D
> THATS WHAT I PURCHASED HOW DO YOU LIKE IT AND DO USE FILTERS ON YOUR
> LENSES. I HEARD THE FILTERS LET LESS LITE IN AND DETRACTS FROM THE
> IMAGE THANKS I REALLY ENJOY YOUR WEB SITE

Thank you for the compliment on my web site.

I don't use filters all that often. Good filters can be used to  
filter light to improve the image, but they do cost some light.  
That's a complex subject which I recommend you pick up a photography  
book to read about. It's a bit too much to comment on in an email.

BTW, please don't use "ALL CAPS" when sending notes. I find it hard  
to read.

best
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Re: RE: OT - Nearly made the Darwin List

[Mark Roberts]

Bob W wrote:

>> Of course, there is a sidebar story on that site about a man 
>>trying to have sex with his bicycle.
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/glasgow_and_west/7
>> 095134.stm
>
>must have misunderstood the term "mountin' bike"

Har!

And we probably don't need to worry about him actually making the 
Darwin list: He won't reproduce unless he actually succeeded in getting 
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Re: PESO: Seattle at Dusk

[Rick Womer]

I saw that on the previous evening, but had no time to
shoot it, alas.


--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I've taken photographs of the Seattle Skyline from
> that same area you were
> in.   A really neat shot is one taken around sunset.
>  The buildings all
> glow with the reddish-orange rays of the setting
> sun.
> 
> Jim A.
> 
> 
> > Another from my recent Seattle trip.  There are a
> few
> > open wooden piers along the harbor with beautiful
> > views of the city and Puget Sound.
> >
> >
>
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6641058&size=lg
> >
> > K10D, DA 16-45, ISO 800, f/4 @ 1/10, handheld, RAW
> via
> > Lightroom.
> >
> > I eagerly anticipate comments and critiques.
> >
> > Rick
> >
> >
> >
> >  
>

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Re: WTB: M42 to K-mount adapter

[Walter Hamler]

Stay away from Roxsen!  I bought one of those adapters and it was
junk. Once it was attached to the camera it was extremely difficult to
remove from the body. As noted, it was too thick and did not allow
infinity focus except on very long lenses that would focus "past" the
infinity mark.
I ended up getting a Pentax version from KEH. They usually have them in stock.

Walt

On 11/14/07, Jim King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Stan Halpin wrote on Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:16:42 -0800
>
> > Anybody have one of these they are willing to part with?
> > I sold my last one a couple of years ago thinking I would never need
> > it, but am thinking of some experimentation...
>
>
>
> Stan,
>
> I don't have one to sell you right now, but seller "roxsen" on eBay
> (located in Hong Kong) has several for sale right now.  Note that his
> are not the genuine Pentax-made units, but they are a lot cheaper and
> do permit infinity focus.
>
> Beware the many adapters on the 'Bay which have a large flange - they
> do *not* permit infinity focus, as the flange does not fit within the
> lensmount opening but sits outside it.
>
> Regards, Jim
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Re: GESO: Lindsey Se;ects

[pnstenquist]

No problem. I love it. If I had her bum, I might keep my hand on it too! :-)
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: "wendy beard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Too many hand-on-bum shots.
> When I first saw the thumbnails I thought #5 (lindsey 2.3) looked like
> she'd just sat on some chewing gum. Then as I scanned the thumbnails
> my overactive imagination saw her checking her behind on numerous
> occasions for the gum.
> Please take my comments with a pinch of salt.
> Three days of software training is starting to addle my brain :)
> 
> Wendy
> (being flippant)
> 
> On Nov 11, 2007 9:27 PM, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > If any one is still interested, these are the selects that Lindsey
> > wants to send to her agents. Comments welcome.
> > Paul
> > http://photo.net/photodb/folder.tcl?folder_id=782169
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Re: Don't quite know how to respond to this...

[Toralf Lund]

mike wilson wrote:
> Although their grasp of English and presentation skills are somewhat lacking, 
> he/she asks a pertinent question, in a pleasant manner, in an apparent 
> attempt to increase their knowledge of the subject.  I would give them a 
> proper, courteous answer.
>   
Seriously?

Well, maybe I'm the one who has got it wrong, but this looks very 
similar to a number of emails I've received in the past, which I've 
always thought were some kind of spam or scam, although I haven't quite 
understood what exactly they were supposed to trick me into doing. The 
messages I'm talking about (I haven't kept any of them, unfortunately) 
haven't been about Pentax cameras, but seemed to touch upon some subject 
or the other I had expressed an interest somewhere on the net. Their 
text has been a more or less incomprehensible (auto-generated?) 
collection of words related to the subject - organised into nearly 
grammatically correct, yet more or less meaningless, sentences...

I thought this was what Mark was assuming, too...
>> From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: 2007/11/15 Thu AM 01:26:27 GMT
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>> Subject: Don't quite know how to respond to this...
>>
>> An email I just received (unedited, in its entirety):
>>
>> I'VE CONTACTED YOU BEFORE ABOUT PENTAX CAMERAS. I SEE YOU USE THE K10D 
>> THATS WHAT I PURCHASED HOW DO YOU LIKE IT AND DO USE FILTERS ON YOUR 
>> LENSES. I HEARD THE FILTERS LET LESS LITE IN AND DETRACTS FROM THE 
>> IMAGE THANKS  I REALLY ENJOY YOUR WEB SITE
>>
>>
>> Suggestions for a response would be appreciated. I probably won't *use* 
>> any of them, but I might *enjoy* them :)
>> 
>
>
>
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Re: Shooting in low temperature outdoors

[Bob Sullivan]

Boris,
Unless it's snowing or way below freezing, I see no problems.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Nov 15, 2007 12:23 PM, Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi there.
>
> It turns out that I have my tickets for Prague next weekend. I am going
> to take my K10D, DA 21 and FA 43 lenses. The main issue that still
> remains to be resolved is that of taking the lenses and the camera back
> and forth between indoors (warm?!) and outdoors (cold?!). I've no
> experience with this kind of shooting whatsoever.
>
> Any hints of practical nature or rules to be observed would be most
> appreciated.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Boris
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Re: OT - Nearly made the Darwin List

[John Graves]

You have it wrong..It was an unfortunate chain of events!

John Graves
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Cotty wrote:
>   
 A  misunderstanding after he had too much to drink?

 What, the bike led him  on? Didn't shout no?
 
>>> He spoke too soon...
>>>
>>>   
>> meh, whatever turns your crank
>> 
>
> This stems from total depravity.
>
>
>
>
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RE: OT - Nearly made the Darwin List

[pnstenquist]

How old was the bike? Did it say no? This sounds like a case of consenting 
adults enjoying each other's company. Don't the police have better things to do?
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: "Bob W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> > Of course, there is a sidebar story on that site about a man trying
> to
> > have sex with his bicycle.
> > 
> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/glasgow_and_west/7
> > 095134.stm
> > 
> 
> must have misunderstood the term "mountin' bike"
> 
> 
> > 
> > I'd like a comment from Frank.
> > 
> 
> he's probably too busy pumping up his bike.
> 
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Re: OT - Nearly made the Darwin List

[John Graves]

After reading all the missives, I am convinced he was framed.

John Graves
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> How old was the bike? Did it say no? This sounds like a case of consenting 
> adults enjoying each other's company. Don't the police have better things to 
> do?
> Paul
>  -- Original message --
> From: "Bob W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   
>>> Of course, there is a sidebar story on that site about a man trying
>>>   
>> to
>> 
>>> have sex with his bicycle.
>>>
>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/glasgow_and_west/7
>>> 095134.stm
>>>
>>>   
>> must have misunderstood the term "mountin' bike"
>>
>>
>> 
>>> I'd like a comment from Frank.
>>>
>>>   
>> he's probably too busy pumping up his bike.
>>
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Re: OT - Nearly made the Darwin List

[Cotty]

On 15/11/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed:

>How old was the bike? Did it say no? This sounds like a case of
>consenting adults enjoying each other's company. Don't the police have
>better things to do?

Yeah but she was an old bike.

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Re: OT - Nearly made the Darwin List

[Gonz]

It was the skimpy at-tire.



On 11/15/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In a message dated 11/15/2007 6:46:37 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Steve Desjardins  wrote:
> > Of course, there is a sidebar story on that site about a man  trying to
> > have sex with his bicycle.
> >
> >  http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/glasgow_and_west/7095134.stm
>
> 
> A  misunderstanding after he had too much to drink?
>
> What, the bike led him  on? Didn't shout no?
>
> Marnie aka Doe  :-)
>
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Re: Those looking for a FA*300/4.5 tripod mount ...

[Ken Waller]

The 300mm f4.5 FA is one of my most used lenses - I use a camera mounted "L" 
bracket (from Kirk http://www.kirkphoto.com/ )to accomplish quick 
re-orientation from portrait to landscape.

Kenneth Waller
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From: "David Savage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Those looking for a FA*300/4.5 tripod mount ...


> At 11:39 AM 15/11/2007, William Robb wrote:
>
>>- Original Message -
>>From: "David Savage"
>>Subject: Re: Those looking for a FA*300/4.5 tripod mount ...
>>
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > You can't rotate from portrait to landscape though. Making it next to
>> > useless IMO.
>> >
>>
>>Is the 300/4.5 so heavy that you couldn't just use the camera's tripod
>>socket?
>>I have the F*300/4.5 and it is a remarkably small lens.
>
> No, it's not heavy.
>
> My desire for a tripod mount has more to do with the improved 
> functionality
> when shooting with a tripod/monopod (when I eventually get one :-).
>
> I quite like the feature on the FA* 80-200mm f2.8 (Which is heavy & does
> need it)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave


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Re: PESO: Hare's Foot

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 11/15/2007 4:50:37 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
G'day All,

Another  Voigtländer shot from the weekend  (~180kb):



K10D,  Voigtländer 125mm f2.5, 1/320 @ f5.6, ISO 200

Any & all comments  welcome.

Cheers,

Dave


Very nice. Well  done.

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Re: Prints (was: Paid For)

[John Francis]

On Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 08:56:16AM -0500, Mark Roberts wrote:
> Toralf Lund wrote:
> 
> >I don't know. I've heard many people talk about how they miss their 
> >family album now that they've switched to digital. 
> 
> By talking about people who have *switched* to digital you've 
> automatically excluded the age group I'm talking about :)

Digital is making inroads at the other end of the age spectrum, too.
My mother (90 a couple of weeks ago) has severe arthritis, and would
find turning the pages in a photo album a rather laborious process.
But with a digital photo frame she can look at a few hundred images
without lifting a finger, even though she is otherwise not a part of
the digital revolution (no PC, no eMail, etc.).  My brother and I 
coordinate so that either of us can produce an updated set of images
on an SD card.  While a VGA-resolution image at 72dpi may not be up
to the standards of a high-quality print on archive paper I doubt if
the difference is discernable to my mother's eyes.


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Re: GESO: Lindsey Se;ects

[wendy beard]

Too many hand-on-bum shots.
When I first saw the thumbnails I thought #5 (lindsey 2.3) looked like
she'd just sat on some chewing gum. Then as I scanned the thumbnails
my overactive imagination saw her checking her behind on numerous
occasions for the gum.
Please take my comments with a pinch of salt.
Three days of software training is starting to addle my brain :)

Wendy
(being flippant)

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> wants to send to her agents. Comments welcome.
> Paul
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Re: DNG Question

[Mark Roberts]

Evan Hanson wrote:

>For those of you who convert to DNG after shooting raw, do you embed  
>the original PEF?  I just converted all my files to DNG but I didn't  
>include the original now I'm thinking I should do it again before I  
>get rid of the originals.

Nope. Can't see any reason to, myself.



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Re: Sigma 600mm f/8.0 Mirror Lens Sample Photos and Specifications

[272yb]

There is a photo of it next to a 300mm F4.0 Pentax A  Lens and a 16-45 Pentax 
Lens. This should show it's size. There is also a a few photos taken with it of 
cars parked in a lotJoe

 -- Original message --
From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> It's a Sigma Ultra Tel, I've seen one for sale on e-Bay a few years 
> ago.  It went for a lot of money.  They are relatively rare, probably 
> fewer were made than the Vivitar Series 1 450mm solid cat, there were 
> only 800 of those made.  They have a reputation of being very, very, 
> very good.
> 
> 
> Thibouille wrote:
> > 500f/4 mirror ? I'd be heaviliy suprised of a F/4 mirror lens.
> > Those are usually 500/600mm f/8 or 300/350mm f/5.6.
> >
> > On Nov 15, 2007 1:54 PM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >   
> >> I do have a Simga 500mm F.4.0 mirror lens, which is sort of heavy and I do 
> like it.
> >> Here is a link to to a photo of it on my photo.net page.There are three 
> photos of it on that pageJoe
> >>
> >> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5771640
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  -- Original message --
> >> From: Thibouille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> 
> >>> I think mirror lens have the realyl advantages (well more or less) of 
> >>> being:
> >>>
> >>> * portable (but a bit too much, they are too lightweight for the focal
> >>> length IMO and as such difficult to stabilize). In the end you still
> >>> need a tripod which kinda negates the argument.
> >>>
> >>> * cheap. and I think this is the major point why people buy those. I
> >>> have one although I didn't pay for it (long term loan ;) I'm sometimes
> >>> very happy having it. I know I will *never* be able to pay for
> >>> "proper" 500mm lens. so I'm happy with my Tamron.
> >>>
> >>> True the bokeh is indeed very problematic. But as a chgeap astro lens
> >>> like moonshots (at least for a newbie like me) I think it is a very
> >>> acceptable solution... not without obvious drawbacks.
> >>>
> >>> --
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Re: Don't quite know how to respond to this...

[Mark Roberts]

ann sanfedele wrote:

>To think I almost made Mark a serious answer!  Fortunately my 
>coffee cup was not in my hand.  

I've already got a serious answer. First I need to find out what he 
heans about filters. I'd guess he's talking about UV "protective" 
filters and had been warned about possible image quality loss. But I 
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DNG Question

[Evan Hanson]

For those of you who convert to DNG after shooting raw, do you embed  
the original PEF?  I just converted all my files to DNG but I didn't  
include the original now I'm thinking I should do it again before I  
get rid of the originals.

Thanks
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RE: OT - Nearly made the Darwin List

[Bob W]

> Of course, there is a sidebar story on that site about a man trying
to
> have sex with his bicycle.
> 
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/glasgow_and_west/7
> 095134.stm
> 

must have misunderstood the term "mountin' bike"


> 
> I'd like a comment from Frank.
> 

he's probably too busy pumping up his bike.

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RE: Shooting in low temperature outdoors

[Bob W]

You're Russian. You must have had cold weather before!

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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Boris Liberman
> Sent: 15 November 2007 18:24
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Shooting in low temperature outdoors
> 
> Hi there.
> 
> It turns out that I have my tickets for Prague next weekend. 
> I am going 
> to take my K10D, DA 21 and FA 43 lenses. The main issue that still 
> remains to be resolved is that of taking the lenses and the 
> camera back 
> and forth between indoors (warm?!) and outdoors (cold?!). I've no 
> experience with this kind of shooting whatsoever.
> 
> Any hints of practical nature or rules to be observed would be most 
> appreciated.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Boris
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off for a bit...

[ann sanfedele]

not that I'm contributing much --
house guest arriving tonight from Toronto  -
off to the country on Saturday over night to see my friend Nora's grand 
daughter and bring her more photos
from my archives

Don't think I'll have any chance at all to pop in here, but I'll be 
checking my regular email

If anyone wants my old Bogen Mini enlarger write me off list

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Re: Prints (was: Paid For)

[Toralf Lund]

Mark Roberts wrote:
> Toralf Lund wrote:
>
>   
>> I don't know. I've heard many people talk about how they miss their 
>> family album now that they've switched to digital. 
>> 
>
> By talking about people who have *switched* to digital you've 
> automatically excluded the age group I'm talking about :)
>   
Possibly. But if people who have tried both the "old way" and the "new 
way" and are actually quite excited about the modern variant (I was 
talking about some of those who are), still miss some aspects of the 
traditional approach, maybe it can have an appeal to today's 
fifteenyearolds, too. Not while they are fifteen, perhaps, but as they 
grow older and become more and more like their parents without really 
noticing...

- Toralf



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Re: Prints (was: Paid For)

[Toralf Lund]

John Francis wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 08:56:16AM -0500, Mark Roberts wrote:
>   
>> Toralf Lund wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> I don't know. I've heard many people talk about how they miss their 
>>> family album now that they've switched to digital. 
>>>   
>> By talking about people who have *switched* to digital you've 
>> automatically excluded the age group I'm talking about :)
>> 
>
> Digital is making inroads at the other end of the age spectrum, too.
> My mother (90 a couple of weeks ago) has severe arthritis, and would
> find turning the pages in a photo album a rather laborious process.
> But with a digital photo frame she can look at a few hundred images
> without lifting a finger, even though she is otherwise not a part of
> the digital revolution (no PC, no eMail, etc.).  My brother and I 
> coordinate so that either of us can produce an updated set of images
> on an SD card.  While a VGA-resolution image at 72dpi may not be up
> to the standards of a high-quality print on archive paper I doubt if
> the difference is discernable to my mother's eyes.
>   
It's not really about the quality of the image. At least not directly. 
The problem would rather be that today's computer screens just feel less 
comfortable to look at than printed material and/or more stressful to 
the eyes.

- T
>
>   


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Re: A question about chimping

[Bob Blakely]

I recently shot a hockey game (Ducks vs. Sharks). The first thing I did was 
shoot an example shot from my view point. This gave me the info I needed to:

1.Correct color temperature.
2.Correct exposure (+ 1 stop req.)
3.Check that these mods worked at the different views available to me.

Worked great!

I guess I just don't "have enough confidence in my knowledge and[/or] 
abilities."

The smc PENTAX-A* 1:2.8 200mm ED worked great too!

Regards,
Bob...
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Note: No trees were killed in the sending of this message,
but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.

From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> From: "Tom C"
> Subject: Re: A question about chimping
>>
>>, and to get it right one must see.
>
> Or one must have enough confidence in their knowledge and abilities.


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Re: Prints (was: Paid For)

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

It's in the iPhone's address book if they're using it properly.

G

On Nov 15, 2007, at 11:15 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:

> If they remember their e-mail address, that is.
>
> Adam Maas wrote:
>> But if it's an iPhone (Essentially the same as the iPod Touch,  
>> just with a phone and email) you can just email it to them ;-)
>>

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Re: OT - Nearly made the Darwin List

[P. J. Alling]

Cotty wrote:
>   
 A  misunderstanding after he had too much to drink?

 What, the bike led him  on? Didn't shout no?
 
>>> He spoke too soon...
>>>
>>>   
>> meh, whatever turns your crank
>> 
>
> This stems from total depravity.
>   
I think it's time we shifted gears here.

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Re: Shooting in low temperature outdoors

[Cotty]

On 15/11/07, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed:

>It turns out that I have my tickets for Prague next weekend. I am going 
>to take my K10D, DA 21 and FA 43 lenses. The main issue that still 
>remains to be resolved is that of taking the lenses and the camera back 
>and forth between indoors (warm?!) and outdoors (cold?!). I've no 
>experience with this kind of shooting whatsoever.

Boris, get some sturdy pastic bags that zip shut tight - better, 2 bags
for each article. If shooting outdoors then (say) going into a warm cafe
for lunch, place camera/lens, and any other lenses in the pastic bags
and seal them tight before going in a building. If you're going to shoot
indoors, allow a good 20 mins to 30 mins for the gear to warm up. Tip -
remove lenses from camera bag as the bag will act like a bit of an
insulator. Only remove gear from bags when sure they have warmed up.

Your worst nightmare is condensation within the lens. Zooms are
notorious for this.

If just popping in for lunch, leave them in the placcy bags until
outside again.

I come across this problem constantly in TV. It'll be 5 deg C below
outside and I'll be filming all morning, then the next job turns out to
be in a swimming pool. Nothing for it, the camera goes into the pool
area and I go for lunch. It can take up to an hour in those
circumstances. I carry a professional hair dryer as sometimes there is a
time constraint and the indoor shoot needs to be quick. But you can only
hurry science along so much...

Keep any batteries warm. That means in a trouser pocket. Cold batteries
are next to useless.

Otherwise, not much to go wrong. I've probably forgotten something but
others will chirp in.

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Re: OT - Nearly made the Darwin List

[Cotty]

>>> A  misunderstanding after he had too much to drink?
>>>
>>> What, the bike led him  on? Didn't shout no?
>> 
>> He spoke too soon...
>> 
>
>meh, whatever turns your crank

This stems from total depravity.





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Re: PESO: Seattle at Dusk

[Rick Womer]

Thanks, Bruce.

I tried a pano crop, but decided that I liked the
diagonal lines of the planks leading into the
illuminated buildings.  They may not show up on all
monitors, though.

Rick

--- Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello Rick,
> 
> Tough shot.  Seems more like a pano type crop is
> needed.  The foreground really
> doesn't help - just a big brown section.  I think I
> would take a lot
> off the bottom and a bit off the top.  The exposure
> on the buildings
> looks nice.
> 
> -- 
> Bruce
> 
> 
> Wednesday, November 14, 2007, 7:08:56 PM, you wrote:
> 
> RW> Another from my recent Seattle trip.  There are
> a few
> RW> open wooden piers along the harbor with
> beautiful
> RW> views of the city and Puget Sound.
> 
> RW>
>
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6641058&size=lg
> 
> RW> K10D, DA 16-45, ISO 800, f/4 @ 1/10, handheld,
> RAW via
> RW> Lightroom.
> 
> RW> I eagerly anticipate comments and critiques.
> 
> RW> Rick
> 
> 
> 
> RW>  
> RW>
>

> RW> Be a better pen pal. 
> RW> Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail.
> See how. 
> RW> http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/
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Re: OT - Nearly made the Darwin List

[Christian]

Cotty wrote:
> 
>> A  misunderstanding after he had too much to drink?
>>
>> What, the bike led him  on? Didn't shout no?
> 
> He spoke too soon...
> 

meh, whatever turns your crank


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Re: PESO: Hare's Foot

[Cotty]

On 15/11/07, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed:

>
>
>K10D, Voigtländer 125mm f2.5, 1/320 @ f5.6, ISO 200
>
>Any & all comments welcome.

You need to stop down a bit more ;-)

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Re: OT - Nearly made the Darwin List

[Cotty]

>A  misunderstanding after he had too much to drink?
>
>What, the bike led him  on? Didn't shout no?

He spoke too soon...



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Re: PESO: Seattle at Dusk

[Boris Liberman]

Rick, this is really good.

For some strange reason it looks to me like a scene from a Doom-like 
game. The foreground specifically makes me think so. Don't take that too 
seriously, 'cause this is my warped mind talking here. This is really a 
very fine photograph.

Boris

Rick Womer wrote:
> Another from my recent Seattle trip.  There are a few
> open wooden piers along the harbor with beautiful
> views of the city and Puget Sound.
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6641058&size=lg
> 
> K10D, DA 16-45, ISO 800, f/4 @ 1/10, handheld, RAW via
> Lightroom.
> 
> I eagerly anticipate comments and critiques.
> 
> Rick
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
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Re: OT - Nearly made the Darwin List

[Cotty]

On 15/11/07, Steve Desjardins, discombobulated, unleashed:

>
>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/glasgow_and_west/7095134.stm
>
>
>I'd like a comment from Frank.

I didn't see that. Great story thanks. Frank?
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Re: A question about chimping

[Mark Roberts]

Ken Waller wrote:

>If you don't occasionally chimp for exposure settings (overall & R G 
B), 
>you're a lot better photographer then I am.

I don't think that checking histograms counts as chimping, though.



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Shooting in low temperature outdoors

[Boris Liberman]

Hi there.

It turns out that I have my tickets for Prague next weekend. I am going 
to take my K10D, DA 21 and FA 43 lenses. The main issue that still 
remains to be resolved is that of taking the lenses and the camera back 
and forth between indoors (warm?!) and outdoors (cold?!). I've no 
experience with this kind of shooting whatsoever.

Any hints of practical nature or rules to be observed would be most 
appreciated.

Thanks.

Boris

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Re: PESO: Seattle at Dusk

[David Savage]

I like the scene & composition, but it's a little too dark overall.

I hope you don't mind but I had a little play with it in PS (~200kb)



Cheers,

Dave

On Nov 15, 2007 12:08 PM, Rick Womer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Another from my recent Seattle trip.  There are a few
> open wooden piers along the harbor with beautiful
> views of the city and Puget Sound.
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6641058&size=lg
>
> K10D, DA 16-45, ISO 800, f/4 @ 1/10, handheld, RAW via
> Lightroom.
>
> I eagerly anticipate comments and critiques.

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Re: A question about chimping

[Ken Waller]

If you don't occasionally chimp for exposure settings (overall & R G B), 
you're a lot better photographer then I am.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - 
From: "ann sanfedele" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A question about chimping


> Tom C wrote:
>
, and to get it right one must see.


>>>Or one must have enough confidence in their knowledge and abilities.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Certainly, one would have confidence but that confidence does not 
>>negate human error or the fact that the camera itself is not a perfect 
>>device.  The ability to see a captured image immediately after exposure, 
>>is to a photographer, probably the single largest advantage offered by the 
>>technology.
>>
>>Tom C.
>>
>>
>>
>>
> I can only get a hint of what Ive done from the tiny photo.. although it
> is sufficient to trash the really obvious
> out of focus, super camera shake, subject out of frame stuff.. ...  LIke
> Robb, I need to look at them on the
> big screen to really tell what I've gotten.
>
> And using the button that zooms in  on the camera really messed me up
> once when I went to the next frame
> to examine it after zooming in on one.  I was photo'ing a little birdie
> on a roof -- shot about 10 frames -
> thought I had gotten it but all I was seeing on back of the camera was a
> piece of the sky -  cursing myself
> and trashing a bunch I sudden realized I was only looking at a corner of
> the frame.  ugh.  Probably didn't
> have a decent shot anyway. sigh.
>
> ann


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Re: PESO: Scribbles

[David Savage]

Works for me.

Well seen.

Cheers,

Dave

On Nov 15, 2007 9:06 PM, Brian Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> G'day all
>
> I took myself off the the annual 'Sculpture by the Sea' exhibition on Monday. 
>  This is an annual event, now in its 11th year, which features outdoor 
> sculptures along a 2km coastal walk between Tamarama and Bondi, on Sydney's 
> eastern beaches.
>
> I'll probably put up a small GESO shortly but thought I'd post this for 
> comment. I found the shadows cast by one of the sculptures more interesting 
> than the sculpture itself.
>
> http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/77689/Scribbles.html

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Re: Sigma 600mm f/8.0 Mirror Lens Sample Photos and Specifications

[Thibouille]

No no I thought that it was a shot taken with that lens which wouldn't
helped much IMO so I didn't (how stupid) check.
That's the first time I see this, hence I'm indeed very surprised.

It'd be cool to see it attached to a camera to have a better idea of
the size of the whole thing.

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RE: A question about chimping

[Tom C]

I've never contended that the LCD was the beat-all/end-all when it comes to 
viewing images.  Of course it isn't.  It can be very effective though at 
previewing exposure, composition, and when magnified, a good indication of 
focus.

My point was that it's far better than having nothing to preview and can make 
the difference between getting a good shot and not getting one. 

Tom C.





> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:00:22 -0500
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: pdml@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: A question about chimping
>
> Tom C wrote:
>
, and to get it right one must see.


>>>Or one must have enough confidence in their knowledge and abilities.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Certainly, one would have confidence but that confidence does not negate 
>>human error or the fact that the camera itself is not a perfect device. The 
>>ability to see a captured image immediately after exposure, is to a 
>>photographer, probably the single largest advantage offered by the technology.
>>
>>Tom C.
>>
>>
>>
>>
> I can only get a hint of what Ive done from the tiny photo.. although it
> is sufficient to trash the really obvious
> out of focus, super camera shake, subject out of frame stuff.. ... LIke
> Robb, I need to look at them on the
> big screen to really tell what I've gotten.
>
> And using the button that zooms in on the camera really messed me up
> once when I went to the next frame
> to examine it after zooming in on one. I was photo'ing a little birdie
> on a roof -- shot about 10 frames -
> thought I had gotten it but all I was seeing on back of the camera was a
> piece of the sky - cursing myself
> and trashing a bunch I sudden realized I was only looking at a corner of
> the frame. ugh. Probably didn't
> have a decent shot anyway. sigh.
>
> ann
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>To: pdml@pdml.net
>>>Subject: Re: A question about chimping
>>>Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 07:36:00 -0600
>>>
>>>
>>>- Original Message -
>>>From: "Tom C"
>>>Subject: Re: A question about chimping
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
, and to get it right one must see.


>>>Or one must have enough confidence in their knowledge and abilities.
>>>
>>>
You're right, it's a hallmark of many pro's to check and review their
images on the spot in order to correct deficiences, and in the past they
spent thousands of dollars for the capability with duplicate backs,
polaroid film, and in some cases duplicate bodies.


>>>Polaroids were almost exclusively used in the studio to check lighting and
>>>whatnot, and often that was to satisfy art directors, not the
>>>photographers themselves.
>>>
>>>William Robb
>>>
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Re: PESO: Seattle at Dusk

[David Savage]

On Nov 16, 2007 1:08 AM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Rick, it is possible  using masks to have the sky of the original, but the
> bottom that Dave produced.  I think it would be worth it. Also print better 
> too.

It would be possible, because that's all I did. A simple levels
adjustment layer to bring up the foreground & painted on masks to pull
down the buildings.

I just happened to stop painting the mask at the top of the buildings. :-)

Cheers,

Dave

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Re: DA 10-17 or DA 12-24?

[Axel Belinfante]

> > did get my first case of purple fringing/sensor bloat -
> > on branches of trees against bright (almost white) sky background.
> > (saw it at f/4.5, at 10mm and 17mm)
> 
> It happens. Given the extreme nature of the lens I wasn't too
> surprised when I first got the lens
> 
> > don't recall I have seen that before (in aprx 4K k10d exposures)
> > not that I tried so many other lenses so far -
> > would this lens be more susceptible to it than others?
> 
> You've been very luck then.

either that or I simply missed (overlooked) it so far -
I have recently looked at blogs/webpages mentioning it
which may have made me more aware which allowed me to more
easily spot it now, maybe.

> With regards to the matter of de-fishing, here is a quick & dirty
> example of a DA 10-17mm image de-fished using Hugin.
[snip]

thanks for the explanation! something to try later today.

Axel.

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Re: Prints (was: Paid For)

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 11/15/2007 12:23:27 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I don't know. I've heard many people talk about  how they miss their 
family album now that they've switched to  digital.

- T
===
I don't agree with everyone that the print  will disappear, for the very 
reason you mentioned.

Yes the print will  become less important to a large degree. Like I show my 
pictures online and have  no need to print out most of what I show online. But 
I still make prints to  frame too, I would bet most hobbyists do. And that is 
a fairly big  market.

And definitely no when it comes to family albums. (A lot of  people may get 
their digital prints done by a store, not do them  themselves.)

Ever heard of scrapbooking? Big industry. Especially aimed at  mothers who 
want to save pictures of their kids and family. It tends  to mainly be a female 
hobby, but I don't see any slacking off on that  front.

Marnie aka Doe :-) I don't do it but have met many women who  do.




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Re: PESO: Seattle at Dusk

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 11/15/2007 8:05:24 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Rick,
I'm a sucker  for these shots, but your original was too dark.
Dave's version brings out  the pleasing aspects of the original image.
...This means I have more  learning to do with post processing... :-(
Regards, Bob S.

On Nov 15,  2007 9:22 AM, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I like the  scene & composition, but it's a little too dark overall.
>
> I  hope you don't mind but I had a little play with it in PS  (~200kb)
>
>  

>
>  Cheers,
>
> Dave

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bottom that Dave produced.  I think it would be worth it. Also print better too.

Marnie aka Doe  :-)


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Re: OT - Nearly made the Darwin List

[P. J. Alling]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In a message dated 11/15/2007 6:46:37 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Steve Desjardins  wrote:
>   
>> Of course, there is a sidebar story on that site about a man  trying to
>> have sex with his bicycle.
>>
>>  http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/glasgow_and_west/7095134.stm
>> 
>
> 
> A  misunderstanding after he had too much to drink?
>
> What, the bike led him  on? Didn't shout no?
>
> Marnie aka Doe  :-)
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I just can't believe that it ended up in court.  There must be something 
else going on...

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