GESO 2007 - Ode To A Funny Lookin' Bird - GDG

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

http://homepage.mac.com/godders/stickleg/

enjoy
Godfrey

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Re: OT: Go Riders

[Scott Loveless]

William Robb wrote:
> While the Americans are thinking that their little Thanksgiving whatever is 
> something to be thankful for and happy about, and Europe can't figure out 
> how to make balls that aren't round, the city at the center of the universe 
> is hosting a game that is destined to bring east and west together.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCcKdH96Nao
> Go Riders.
> 
> William Robb 
> 
> 
Ha!  I always thought it was pronounced "re-gee-na".  Good stuff.

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Re: OT: Microsoft Access

[Doug Franklin]

David J Brooks wrote:

>> The font name is hatten.  I have also had problems with a font
>> hatten.
> 
> Man hatten??

Hattenschweiler (spelling may be off)

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Re: FA 77mm Ltd. - An observation

[David Savage]

On Nov 24, 2007 2:03 PM, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> that should be your, not you're, damn spell checker...

I knew what you meant :-)

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Re: PESO: "Sun Princess" (YABP)

[David Savage]

On Nov 24, 2007 1:59 PM, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've seen that button on Flicker, but it doesn't appear on this page.
>
Hmm...

Sorry about that. I'm always logged in to Flickr so I didn't realise
the all sizes option wasn't available:

Here's the cropped version, larger:

Medium (1024x475 pixels ~230kb)


Large (2700x1252 pixels ~830kb)



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Re: FA 77mm Ltd. - An observation

[P. J. Alling]

that should be your, not you're, damn spell checker...


P. J. Alling wrote:
> Think of it as the perfect tool to facilitate a break up with you're 
> wife/girlfriend/etc...
>
> David Savage wrote:
>   
>> I did some portraits of my parents this evening & I have to say that
>> the 77 Ltd., for all it's good points, is a very unflattering lens for
>> shooting people with a less than perfect complexion.
>>
>> Every wrinkle, pore, blemish etc. is rendered in razor sharp detail.
>>
>> :-)
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> /observation
>>
>>   
>> 
>
>
>   


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Re: PESO: "Sun Princess" (YABP)

[P. J. Alling]

I've seen that button on Flicker, but it doesn't appear on this page.

David Savage wrote:
> On Nov 24, 2007 2:20 AM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> In a message dated 11/23/2007 2:27:34 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time,
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>> 
>>
>> Yes, much  better.
>>
>> Marnie :-) Though it's tinsy  winsy.
>> 
>
> Thanks Marnie.
>
> Try clicking on the button above the photo that says "All sizes" and
> you have 6 size options.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave
>
>   


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Re: FA 77mm Ltd. - An observation

[P. J. Alling]

EEEKKK!

Cotty wrote:
> On 23/11/07, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>   
>> I can think of a good example of overdoing the lack of detail in 
>> portraits: Remember those scary-looking Photoshop jobs of girls with 
>> big eyes, unnaturally plastic-looking skin, etc? Discussed on the list 
>> some time ago. Anyone got the link?
>> 
>
> Here ya go.
>
> 
>
>
>
>   


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Re: OT: Black Friday

[P. J. Alling]

It's also known as black Friday by retail employees, because they are 
trampled by hoards of shoppers, to them the profits secondary at best...

Jim Apilado wrote:
> Just curious.   Is there a Black Friday in Canada?  It's called Black  
> Friday because U.S. retailers hope their sales year will get into the  
> black by having lots of shoppers buying their presents early the day  
> after the U.S. Thanksgiving holiday.   I think it's crazy to flock to  
> a store during the early hours to get a "bargain."  I heard in the  
> news that some woman would spend $2000 US on this day.
>
> Jim A.
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>
>
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Re: PESO, PEOW etc

[P. J. Alling]

Let's just hope he hasn't wandered off to play in traffic...

Bob Sullivan wrote:
> And where is Frank?  Have we misplaced him?  Who's turn was it to
> watch him?  Regards,  Bob S.
>
> On Nov 23, 2007 5:42 AM, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> Also PDLTCorF
>>
>> Please don't listen to Cotty or Frank.:-)  :-)
>>
>> Note all the smily face lads.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>> On 11/23/07, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>> PESO: Picture/Photo Every So Often
>>> PAW: Picture/Photo A Week
>>> GESO: Gallery Every So Often
>>> PUG: Pentax Users Gallery 
>>> PEOW: Picture/Photo Every Other Week (not widely used)
>>>
>>> More info in the Mini FAQ:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> On Nov 23, 2007 7:40 PM, .timber>>code <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>   
 Could anyone tell me what does these P-words mean? :D

 So far I saw PESO, PEOW and PUG. So far I know Peso is a money, PUG is
 for Pick Up Group in MMORPGs and PEOW sounds like firing a bullet :D

 Thanks,
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Re: FA 77mm Ltd. - An observation

[P. J. Alling]

Think of it as the perfect tool to facilitate a break up with you're 
wife/girlfriend/etc...

David Savage wrote:
> I did some portraits of my parents this evening & I have to say that
> the 77 Ltd., for all it's good points, is a very unflattering lens for
> shooting people with a less than perfect complexion.
>
> Every wrinkle, pore, blemish etc. is rendered in razor sharp detail.
>
> :-)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave
>
> /observation
>
>   


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OT: Go Riders

[William Robb]

While the Americans are thinking that their little Thanksgiving whatever is 
something to be thankful for and happy about, and Europe can't figure out 
how to make balls that aren't round, the city at the center of the universe 
is hosting a game that is destined to bring east and west together.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCcKdH96Nao
Go Riders.

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Re: Rumours continued... 24th january we will know if this is all correct (or not)

[P. J. Alling]

Maybe one of Kodaks newish low noise designs. 


Thibouille wrote:
> Mmm reading betwwen the lines of various forum posts, some are hinting
> at a new sensor tech which wouldn't be Foveon nor Bayer.
>
> Now it really becomes interesting :)
>
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Re: OT: The Cormorant Cure

[P. J. Alling]

I'll bet the ham was tasty too...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Speaking of cormorants (don't we always:-), some Wisconsin fisherman came up 
> with the ultimate solution: Three Little Pigs. Seems there was a huge 
> cormorant population on an island in Lake Michigan, and they were wreaking 
> havoc on the local fishing grounds. Apparently, none of the natural enemies 
> of the cormorant live on the island, so the birds multiplied exponentially. 
> Well, some enterprising fishermen brought three baby pigs to the island, 
> built them a shelter and left them to suffice for themselves. They dined on 
> cormorant eggs. Apparently, they dined heartily for quite some time before 
> the environmental nazis figured out what was going on. Of course they had a 
> fit, but by then the cormorant population was well under control. Less photo 
> ops for PDMLers, more fish for Wisconsin anglers.
> Paul
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Re: PEOW: Cormorant II

[P. J. Alling]

Actually it's the unofficial "Official Bird" of the PDML...

Jay Taylor wrote:
> Some of you may have seen the head shot of my Cormorant that Mark  
> pointed out (posted on DPreview). Godfrey was correct in that I don't  
> usually exclude much of the context in my bird images, but I guess I  
> was just emulating the Canon and Nikon guys with the major crop just  
> for something different for a change. I had no idea that the  
> Cormorant was the official bird of the PDML, else I would have posted  
> this shot here first.
> http://i.pbase.com/o3/87/63987/1/89186854.QZHGjhYT.IMGP4695.jpg
> I had shot some different ones at this same location last year when I  
> had the K500/4, but when I was driving  by recently and this time  
> noticed the colored buildings in the background I had to turn around  
> and go back for a few frames. I'm glad I did. Comments and critique  
> welcome as always. (K10D/FA*250-600/5.6/Benro 1325/Markins M10 &  
> Wimberley Sidekick)
>
> Thanks for looking,
> JayT
>
>   


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Re: PESO - Schwinn Continental

[P. J. Alling]

What? Your wife couldn't find the fireplace poker?

Cotty wrote:
> On 21/11/07, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>   
>> You guys with your fancy workshops  I rebuilt my old Takara on the 
>> basement floor!
>> 
>
> Oh how I wished for a basement floor.
>
> I once brought a stripped down V8 into the house - it was flipping cold
> outside in the skanky old garage we used to have. I did have a sore ear
> after that though...
>
>   


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Re: OT: Microsoft Access

[P. J. Alling]

Call Microsoft and swear at them.

Mark Roberts wrote:
> Having a software problem and hoping someone can offer help.
>
> I have a photo database in Microsoft Access 97 which I wrote years ago 
> and have still been using. When I bought a new computer this summer I 
> reinstalled Microsoft Office from my original disc. Everything runs 
> fine except Access, which won't start and gives me a message "Microsoft 
> Office can't start because there is no license for it on this machine". 
> Damned odd because I do, and have always had, a legal install disc, one 
> that has worked in the past whenever I needed it.
>
> Uninstalling/reinstalling didn't help.
>
> I can extract all the data in the tables through other software, but 
> I'd really like to be able to run my original database.
>
> Any suggestions or hacks on offer?
>
>
>
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Re: PESO: "Sun Princess" (YABP)

[Stan Halpin]

Thanks. Too lazy to Google for information... I knew you were in that  
general quadrant but had lost track of which coast you are on.

stan

On Nov 23, 2007, at 9:38 PM, David Savage wrote:

> On Nov 24, 2007 12:23 PM, Stan Halpin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
> wrote:
>> Where is Fremantle? (referring to caption on the shot...)
>
> G'day Stan,
>
> Fremantle is the city at the mouth of the Swan River. It's about 15km
> (as the crow flies) south west of Perth, the capital city of Western
> Australia:
>
> 
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave
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Re: PESO: "Sun Princess" (YABP)

[David Savage]

On Nov 24, 2007 12:23 PM, Stan Halpin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Where is Fremantle? (referring to caption on the shot...)

G'day Stan,

Fremantle is the city at the mouth of the Swan River. It's about 15km
(as the crow flies) south west of Perth, the capital city of Western
Australia:



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Re: PESO: Seattle Ferry 2

[P. J. Alling]

I know I'm getting to this late but Link???

Rick Womer wrote:
> Another ferry shot, in the kind of weather Seattle is
> famous for.
>
> K10D, FA 70-200, ISO 1600, f/5.6 @ 1/350, RAW via
> Lightroom.
>
> If I had it to do again, I would have dialed back the
> ISO to reduce the noise.  Ah, well.
>
> The next pic will be in daylight!
>
> Comments appreciated.
>
> Rick
>
>
>   
> 
> Be a better sports nut!  Let your teams follow you 
> with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now.  
> http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ
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Re: PESO, PEOW etc

[David Savage]

On Nov 24, 2007 12:20 PM, Stan Halpin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Nov 23, 2007, at 4:55 AM, David Savage wrote:
>
> >
> > PEOW: Picture/Photo Every Other Week (not widely used)
> >
>
> I thought PEOW was Picture Every Once in a While

Well there you go :-)

Seems kinda' redundant though with the more widely used PESO.

Cheers,

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Re: PESO: "Sun Princess" (YABP)

[Stan Halpin]

Where is Fremantle? (referring to caption on the shot...)

stan

On Nov 22, 2007, at 8:59 AM, David Savage wrote:

> (YABP: Yet Another Bloody Panorama)
>
> G'day All,
>
> One of the bigger cruise ships ("Sun Princes") that sails the seven
> seas is in port for a couple of days. I headed down this evening to
> have a look. Here's one of the shots I came away with:
>
> Small (1265x500, ~115kB)
> 
>
> Medium (2025x800, ~190kB)
> 
>
> Large (3037x1200. ~ 395kB)
> 
>
> Full Size(10921x4315. ~3.5MB)
> 
> (I'm already way over quota so this file will only be up for a  
> couple of days)
>
> K10D, FA 77mm f1.8, 13 seconds @ f8, ISO 100, 6 frames stitched  
> using PTGui
>
> I freely admit that this isn't as interesting as my last pano, but I
> though I'd share it anyway.
>
> All comments welcome.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave
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Re: PESO, PEOW etc

[Stan Halpin]

On Nov 23, 2007, at 4:55 AM, David Savage wrote:

>
> PEOW: Picture/Photo Every Other Week (not widely used)
>

I thought PEOW was Picture Every Once in a While

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Re: SMC Takumar vs Takumar

[P. J. Alling]

Single coated Takumars are labled Super Takumar, multi coated Takumars 
are labled Super Multi Coated or SMC, this is for the M42 screw mount 
lenses.  Takumar Bayonet lenses are all single coated.

.timber>>code wrote:
> Is there any real, visible differenc between the multi coated 
> SMC-Takumars and the normal (older) Takumar? Could anyone show the 
> difference between non coated, single coated and multicoated lens?
>
> Thanks,
> .t
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Re: PESO: Bath time ;-)

[pnstenquist]

I remember the Pump Room. It's below the Roman baths. The architecture dates to 
43 AD. Longleats Estate is another must see. It's a fabulous Victorian 
residence. I shot a commercial there in the mid eighties. 

I was working with a crew from London, and they were a very festive lot. We 
went bar hopping in Bath after wrapping the shoot. One bar wouldn't let the 
ladies in because they were wearing jeans. So they took them off. And were 
admitted:-).
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> Cotty, if you do get to go to Bath, you've gotta have tea in the Pump Room!  
> It's famously old-fashioned in everything, 
> including the service, and you can get a bottle of the spa water there too.  
> Not 
> cheap though
> My brother actually lives in Bath, so it was a no-brainer to stay there on 
> holiday a couple of years ago. He's not in 
> one of the famous crescents, but has terrific views across the city anyway!
> 
> John Coyle
> Brisbane, Australia
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "pentax list" 
> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 6:44 AM
> Subject: Re: PESO: Bath time ;-)
> 
> 
> > On 22/11/07, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:
> >
> >>I assume you've been to Bath? (If not, put it on the agenda for your
> >>next trip to Britain.) It's our favorite place to visit in Britain.
> >
> > Did you go to the spa when you were there? Alma loves it and has been
> > several times. I've yet to go...
> >
> > 
> >
> > -- 
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >  Cotty
> >
> >
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Re: FA 77mm Ltd. - An observation

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Charles Robinson" 
Subject: Re: FA 77mm Ltd. - An observation


> 
>> 
>>
> 
> Oh god, that's depressing to look at.  Does ANYbody think that looks  
> good?
> 

Ken Rockwell might..

William Robb

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Re: FA 77mm Ltd. - An observation

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Stan Halpin"
Subject: Re: FA 77mm Ltd. - An observation


>
>
> All of which is to say that, while I agree with Mark that we do
> recognize and observe others at a grosser level of detail, it is also
> true that we recognize and are uncomfortable at some unconscious
> level when there is less detail than we are able to discern in real
> life. We can cope with a softened portrait and may even find it
> pleasing, but we recognize that it is an artificial representation.

The most well recieved portraits we do seem to be a compromise between 
leaving all the warts in place, and removing them to a certain extent. One 
of my mentors had a very good way of teaching this: He said that if you use 
candle light (and quite bright at that) to illuminate a person, you would 
see about the right amount of detail for portraiture.
After that, the idea was to throw enough good quality softening onto the 
lens to emulate that look.
One thing to remember is that a softening filter for portraiture is not the 
same as a diffusing filter. Good quality Softar filters can be as or more 
expensive as the lens they are mounted to.

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Re: PC problem??????/

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "David J Brooks"
Subject: Re: PC problem??/



> All important photos, downloaded setup for PS, Lumipix etc and
> documents are on CD/DVD and or the external Maxtors.
>
> In your opinion Bill, should i look at getting the HD replaced(its
> only a 80 gig at the moment). I know when this one was replaced 18
> months or so, he mapped all of my files and programs from the old one,
> and istalled the new HD the put the programes and files on the new
> one..
>
> Sounds like this is done all the time and not a big deal, ??eh.

I hate replacing main drives, it takes me weeks to get the machine back to 
the way I like it.
If you can get things mapped, then it's not such a big deal, I guess. I've 
always done clean installs though, which is a royal pain.
I just discovered the settings migration tool that Win XP comes packaged 
with, which made my new machine a lot easier to deal with.
If you don't have irreplacable data on the thing, I'd just use it until it 
craps out.
A couple of things that I've done on my machines is to seperate the "My 
Documents" and email storage directories from the C drive, and I also export 
my address book and bookmarks files to a backup drive from time to time.

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Re: FA 77mm Ltd. - An observation

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Cotty" 

Subject: Re: FA 77mm Ltd. - An observation


> On 23/11/07, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
>>I can think of a good example of overdoing the lack of detail in 
>>portraits: Remember those scary-looking Photoshop jobs of girls with 
>>big eyes, unnaturally plastic-looking skin, etc? Discussed on the list 
>>some time ago. Anyone got the link?
> 
> Here ya go.
> 
> 

I don't think he was talking about your mistress.

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Re: Black Friday

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Jim Apilado" 
Subject: OT: Black Friday


> Just curious.   Is there a Black Friday in Canada?  

Nope, but we had some Black Donnellys once.

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Re: PESO: Bath time ;-)

[John Coyle]

Cotty, if you do get to go to Bath, you've gotta have tea in the Pump Room!  
It's famously old-fashioned in everything, 
including the service, and you can get a bottle of the spa water there too.  
Not cheap though
My brother actually lives in Bath, so it was a no-brainer to stay there on 
holiday a couple of years ago. He's not in 
one of the famous crescents, but has terrific views across the city anyway!

John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia
- Original Message - 
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To: "pentax list" 
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 6:44 AM
Subject: Re: PESO: Bath time ;-)


> On 22/11/07, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>I assume you've been to Bath? (If not, put it on the agenda for your
>>next trip to Britain.) It's our favorite place to visit in Britain.
>
> Did you go to the spa when you were there? Alma loves it and has been
> several times. I've yet to go...
>
> 
>
> -- 
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>
> Cheers,
>  Cotty
>
>
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Re: PESO - classical nude

[P. J. Alling]

Was there supposed to be a link or was it just a  way to get us to look 
at the message.

Scott Loveless wrote:
> Made you look.  PUG deadline is two days away and I have two photos.
>
> See, Dave?  That's how it's done.  And quote some John Denver, damnit. 
> That's always good motivation.
>
> Goodbye again.
>
>   


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Re: PESO: Starbucks Portrait

[pnstenquist]

It's candid. I'm sitting in a corner of the coffee shop, picking 'em off one by 
one:-).
Paul
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> Hi Paul,
> 
> Is this candid?  Or did your subject pose for you?  Or something in-between?
> 
> Bong
> 
> On Nov 24, 2007 6:07 AM, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The cold weather is upon us, so I'm back to shooting Starbucks
> > patrons. It's my winter weather diversion. I liked the look of this
> > guy. And I had a clear shot:
> > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6669934
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Re: PESO: Starbucks Portrait

[pnstenquist]

In truth, he seemed very gentle. But that may not come through in the photo.
Paul
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> Paul Stenquist wrote:
> 
> >The cold weather is upon us, so I'm back to shooting Starbucks  
> >patrons. It's my winter weather diversion. I liked the look of this  
> >guy. And I had a clear shot:
> >http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6669934
> >
> >  
> >
> I hope he didn't have a weapon :)
> 
> ann
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Re: PESO: Dad's Move correct link

[pnstenquist]

No, he didn't see me. I have some others where he's not smiling. But I liked 
this frame. Smiles are good:-).
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: ann sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Paul Stenquist wrote:
> 
> >Sorry, it's here:
> >http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6669938&size=lg
> >
> >  
> >
> hmmm - Either the kid knew you were taking the shot or his dad is about 
> to make a losing move :)
> 
> Nicely framed, but the kid smiling bothers me... it makes it look posed.
> 
> ann
> 
> 
> >On Nov 23, 2007, at 5:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> >  
> >
> >>In a message dated 11/23/2007 2:11:41 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time,
> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >>Another pic from this  afternoon at Starbucks. The busy background
> >>outside the window was  obviously unavoidable, but the moment was too
> >>good to pass  up:
> >>http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6669934
> >>
> >>===
> >>Your  description does not match the photo, so I suspect that is  
> >>the wrong
> >>link.
> >>
> >>HTH, Marnie
> >>
> >>-
> >>Warning: I am now  filtering my email, so you may be censored.
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PESO -- Sunset Rubdown

[Mike Hamilton]

http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/2007/11/23/sunset-rubdown/

Just split second glance at a pane of glass as I walked by it in the  
alley. The sunset was nice, but the reflection gave a different view,  
something I barely noticed until I went back for a second look.

Comments/critiques welcome!!

K10D//DA21//etc...

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Re: PESO: Dad's Move correct link

[ann sanfedele]

Paul Stenquist wrote:

>Sorry, it's here:
>http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6669938&size=lg
>
>  
>
hmmm - Either the kid knew you were taking the shot or his dad is about 
to make a losing move :)

Nicely framed, but the kid smiling bothers me... it makes it look posed.

ann


>On Nov 23, 2007, at 5:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>  
>
>>In a message dated 11/23/2007 2:11:41 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time,
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>>Another pic from this  afternoon at Starbucks. The busy background
>>outside the window was  obviously unavoidable, but the moment was too
>>good to pass  up:
>>http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6669934
>>
>>===
>>Your  description does not match the photo, so I suspect that is  
>>the wrong
>>link.
>>
>>HTH, Marnie
>>
>>-
>>Warning: I am now  filtering my email, so you may be censored.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>NCID=aoltop000301)
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Re: PESO: Starbucks Portrait

[Bong Manayon]

Hi Paul,

Is this candid?  Or did your subject pose for you?  Or something in-between?

Bong

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> The cold weather is upon us, so I'm back to shooting Starbucks
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Re: PESO: Starbucks Portrait

[ann sanfedele]

Paul Stenquist wrote:

>The cold weather is upon us, so I'm back to shooting Starbucks  
>patrons. It's my winter weather diversion. I liked the look of this  
>guy. And I had a clear shot:
>http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6669934
>
>  
>
I hope he didn't have a weapon :)

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Re: FA 77mm Ltd. - An observation

[Mark Roberts]

David Savage wrote:

>Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> I can think of a good example of overdoing the lack of detail in
>> portraits: Remember those scary-looking Photoshop jobs of girls with
>> big eyes, unnaturally plastic-looking skin, etc? Discussed on the list
>> some time ago. Anyone got the link?
>
>The infamous Becky Carter:
>
>

Aaiee! My eyes!
Yep, that's the one.

>Although the shot in the link that Cotty posted looks more life like.

Probably has more personality, too.



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Re: FA 77mm Ltd. - An observation

[David Savage]

On Nov 24, 2007 8:03 AM, Charles Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Nov 23, 2007, at 16:52, David Savage wrote:
>
> > On Nov 24, 2007 2:50 AM, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Remember those scary-looking Photoshop jobs of girls with
> >> big eyes, unnaturally plastic-looking skin, etc? Discussed on the
> >> list
> >> some time ago. Anyone got the link?
> >
> > The infamous Becky Carter:
> >
> > 
> >
>
> Oh god, that's depressing to look at.  Does ANYbody think that looks
> good?

Ken Doll.

Dave

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RE: PESO: Dad's Move correct link

[pnstenquist]

Thanks Bob. Yeah, I agree about the thing coming out of dad's forehead. I think 
I'll fis that. 
Paul
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From: "Bob W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> that's a nice shot, only slightly let down by the elbow growing from
> Dad's forehead.
> 
> --
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>  
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> > Behalf Of Paul Stenquist
> > Sent: 23 November 2007 22:33
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> > Subject: PESO: Dad's Move correct link
> > 
> > Sorry, it's here:
> > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6669938&size=lg
> > 
> > 
> > On Nov 23, 2007, at 5:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > > In a message dated 11/23/2007 2:11:41 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time,
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > > Another pic from this  afternoon at Starbucks. The busy background
> > > outside the window was  obviously unavoidable, but the 
> > moment was too
> > > good to pass  up:
> > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6669934
> > >
> > > ===
> > > Your  description does not match the photo, so I suspect that is  
> > > the wrong
> > > link.
> > >
> > > HTH, Marnie
> > >
> > > -
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> > >
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Re: FA 77mm Ltd. - An observation

[Charles Robinson]

On Nov 23, 2007, at 16:52, David Savage wrote:

> On Nov 24, 2007 2:50 AM, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Stan Halpin wrote:
>>
>>> All of which is to say that, while I agree with Mark that we do
>>> recognize and observe others at a grosser level of detail, it is  
>>> also
>>> true that we recognize and are uncomfortable at some unconscious
>>> level when there is less detail than we are able to discern in real
>>> life. We can cope with a softened portrait and may even find it
>>> pleasing, but we recognize that it is an artificial representation.
>>
>> I can think of a good example of overdoing the lack of detail in
>> portraits: Remember those scary-looking Photoshop jobs of girls with
>> big eyes, unnaturally plastic-looking skin, etc? Discussed on the  
>> list
>> some time ago. Anyone got the link?
>
> The infamous Becky Carter:
>
> 
>

Oh god, that's depressing to look at.  Does ANYbody think that looks  
good?

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Re: PESO: "Sun Princess" (YABP)

[David Savage]

On Nov 24, 2007 2:20 AM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In a message dated 11/23/2007 2:27:34 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
>
> Yes, much  better.
>
> Marnie :-) Though it's tinsy  winsy.

Thanks Marnie.

Try clicking on the button above the photo that says "All sizes" and
you have 6 size options.

Cheers,

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Re: FA 77mm Ltd. - An observation

[David Savage]

On Nov 24, 2007 2:50 AM, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Stan Halpin wrote:
>
> >All of which is to say that, while I agree with Mark that we do
> >recognize and observe others at a grosser level of detail, it is also
> >true that we recognize and are uncomfortable at some unconscious
> >level when there is less detail than we are able to discern in real
> >life. We can cope with a softened portrait and may even find it
> >pleasing, but we recognize that it is an artificial representation.
>
> I can think of a good example of overdoing the lack of detail in
> portraits: Remember those scary-looking Photoshop jobs of girls with
> big eyes, unnaturally plastic-looking skin, etc? Discussed on the list
> some time ago. Anyone got the link?

The infamous Becky Carter:



Although the shot in the link that Cotty posted looks more life like.

Cheers,

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RE: PESO: Dad's Move correct link

[Bob W]

that's a nice shot, only slightly let down by the elbow growing from
Dad's forehead.

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> -Original Message-
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> Sent: 23 November 2007 22:33
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> Subject: PESO: Dad's Move correct link
> 
> Sorry, it's here:
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6669938&size=lg
> 
> 
> On Nov 23, 2007, at 5:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > In a message dated 11/23/2007 2:11:41 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time,
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > Another pic from this  afternoon at Starbucks. The busy background
> > outside the window was  obviously unavoidable, but the 
> moment was too
> > good to pass  up:
> > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6669934
> >
> > ===
> > Your  description does not match the photo, so I suspect that is  
> > the wrong
> > link.
> >
> > HTH, Marnie
> >
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> >
> >
> >
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PESO: Dad's Move correct link

[Paul Stenquist]

Sorry, it's here:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6669938&size=lg


On Nov 23, 2007, at 5:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> In a message dated 11/23/2007 2:11:41 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Another pic from this  afternoon at Starbucks. The busy background
> outside the window was  obviously unavoidable, but the moment was too
> good to pass  up:
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6669934
>
> ===
> Your  description does not match the photo, so I suspect that is  
> the wrong
> link.
>
> HTH, Marnie
>
> -
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>
>
>
>
> **Check out AOL's list of  
> 2007's hottest
> products.
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> NCID=aoltop000301)
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Re: PESO: Dad's Move

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 11/23/2007 2:11:41 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Another pic from this  afternoon at Starbucks. The busy background  
outside the window was  obviously unavoidable, but the moment was too  
good to pass  up:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6669934

===
Your  description does not match the photo, so I suspect that is the wrong  
link.

HTH, Marnie  

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PESO: Starbucks Portrait

[Paul Stenquist]

The cold weather is upon us, so I'm back to shooting Starbucks  
patrons. It's my winter weather diversion. I liked the look of this  
guy. And I had a clear shot:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6669934

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PESO: Dad's Move

[Paul Stenquist]

Another pic from this afternoon at Starbucks. The busy background  
outside the window was obviously unavoidable, but the moment was too  
good to pass up:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6669934

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Re: PESO: Bath time ;-)

[Mark Roberts]

Cotty wrote:

>On 22/11/07, Rick Womer, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>There is a possibility of a meeting in Bath next fall,
>>though.
>
>Keep us up to dat. 90 mins from me.

60 mins if Cotty's driving. ;)


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Re: PC problem??????/

[Brian Walters]

Did you do a surface scan?  I had a similar problem with my PC a few weeks ago 
and a surface scan picked up and flagged some bad sectors.  If a windows system 
file is in a bad part of the disk it could cause the problem you experienced.


Cheers

Brian

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> From: "David J Brooks"
> Subject: Re: PC problem??/
> 
> 
> > The thing fired up ok this morn. I ran disk checker, had to
> restart to
> > run, and it restarted ok. I don';t see any errors report
> anywere.
> >
> > Hopfully it was a one time thing.
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Re: Thanksgiving

[Cotty]

On 22/11/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:

>For all of those who celebrate,
>And all you who do not,
>I hope your day was good
>And that dinner was hot.

If I may just add to that
A line or two to say
May all your festive dinners be
Bounteous, plentiful, and gay


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Re: PESO: Bath time ;-)

[Cotty]

On 22/11/07, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I assume you've been to Bath? (If not, put it on the agenda for your 
>next trip to Britain.) It's our favorite place to visit in Britain.

Did you go to the spa when you were there? Alma loves it and has been
several times. I've yet to go...



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Re: PESO: Bath time ;-)

[Cotty]

On 22/11/07, Rick Womer, discombobulated, unleashed:

>There is a possibility of a meeting in Bath next fall,
>though.

Keep us up to dat. 90 mins from me.

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Re: FA 77mm Ltd. - An observation

[Cotty]

On 23/11/07, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I can think of a good example of overdoing the lack of detail in 
>portraits: Remember those scary-looking Photoshop jobs of girls with 
>big eyes, unnaturally plastic-looking skin, etc? Discussed on the list 
>some time ago. Anyone got the link?

Here ya go.





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Re: Leopard testing (was: Microsoft Access problems)

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Nov 22, 2007, at 5:47 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> There's only one Mac expert here, and I think he's already addressed
> this issue.
>> When I have a problem, I know where to go for help.
>
> Yea, he's the one who, on list, advised against upgrading to Leopard
> until the bugs are worked out. Colleagues in my department have  
> similar
> advice: If you want to get the new operating system, buy a new  
> computer
> that comes with with the new OS installed, don't upgrade an existing
> system to it. Then you'll be fine.

Or install from scratch and use the now-upgraded version of Lightroom  
which solves most of the difficulties.

Present status of my Leopard testing:

- Another Adobe update to LR is due soon that will fix the print  
module issue.

- Issues with the Leopard backup system are more conceptual in  
nature, due to the strategy of the Leopard backup system ... work  
around by excluding the Lightroom database directories, or just turn  
the backup system off, and you'll be fine.

- Issues with viewing files using the Finder are mostly  
inconsequential ... most Mac OS X users never view files with the  
Finder, that's what you use Bridge and Lightroom, or iPhoto, or  
whatever for ... but that will be fixed when Apple revs the Finder in  
another Software Update.

I've got a Leopard test system running from an external hard drive  
now, into which I've installed both Photoshop CS2 and Lightroom 1.3  
along with the Eye One Display 2 calibration software and Epson  
R2400, HP 7960 print drivers. I haven't had time to exercise it  
thoroughly yet, but so far I have yet to see it have any problems at  
all when I've started up either the PowerBook G4 or Power Mac G5 DP  
using it.

Sorry, don't expect a comprehensive report any time soon. I'll be out  
of town next weekend ... and I have a LOT of work to accomplish in  
the meantime. :-(

Godfrey

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RE: attractive mineral

[Bob W]

looks like they were wrong about diamonds being a girl's best friend.

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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of ann sanfedele
> Sent: 23 November 2007 15:05
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> Subject: attractive mineral
> 
> Here is the link  - not my photo -  read my note before linking...
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/277hfl
> 
> I listed a chunk of rough lepidolite on ebay last night - 
> mentioning it 
> came from what I always referred to as the "Newry mine"
> in Maine but asking the potential buyers or browsers to fill in the 
> blanks about the Newry mines/quarries if they knew.
> 
> to my delight, the co-author of  books put out by the Maine 
> Geological 
> Society responded this morning. So I googled
> to get more details with "Minerology of Maine"  the page with 
> the most 
> hits comes up first, of course.  
> 
> Though you guys would be amused.
> 
> ann
> 
> 
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RE: FA 77mm Ltd. - An observation

[Bob W]

Queen Victoria asked her miniaturist, Alfred Chalon, whether
photography was a threat to the painter. "No, Ma'am", he replied. "The
photograph cannot flatter".

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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Mark Roberts
> Sent: 23 November 2007 15:08
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> Subject: Re: FA 77mm Ltd. - An observation
> 
> William Robb wrote:
> 
> >> On Nov 23, 2007 10:02 PM, David J Brooks 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> The one thing the teacher of the basic portriat class i took
this
> >>> spring kept saying, was that when taking ones portrait, 
> it is about
> >>> the face, the look. Any imperfections should be there in 
> the photo.
> >>> Thats who they are.
> >>
> >> I agree, but my "models" bitch & moan about looking old (to which
I
> >> reply "You are old" :-)
> >
> >If you are doing pictures for yourself, then do what you 
> want, but if 
> you 
> >are doing pictures for other people, then do what they want. If
your 
> models 
> >are whining that your pictures aren't flattering, you should 
> probably 
> do 
> >what you can to improve their look for them. If all it takes is a 
> softening 
> >filter, then that's what you need to do.
> >Dave, as a long time portrait shooter, I am going to go out 
> on a limb 
> here 
> >and say that your instructor was full of manure.
> 
> The instructor was full of manure. And not only for aesthetic and 
> commercial reasons, but for scientific ones as well: Human 
> beings don't 
> recognize faces by fine details and sharp, detailed portraits don't 
> look like the way we remember the faces of people we know.
> That's why the "portrait lens" has long been quite a different
animal 
> form lenses intended for other purposes.
> 
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Re: FA 77mm Ltd. - An observation

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Nov 23, 2007, at 10:23 AM, Joseph Tainter wrote:

> "Human beings don't recognize faces by fine details and sharp,  
> detailed
> portraits don't look like the way we remember the faces of people we
> know.That's why the "portrait lens" has long been quite a different
> animal form lenses intended for other purposes."
>
> -
>
> I've never owned a lens designed primarily for portraiture, but from
> what I understand, they are not supposed to be overly sharp. I am
> puzzled, then, about the reports of the FA* 85 F1.4. It is reputed  
> to be
> very sharp close in, but a little worse for landscape shots than  
> the FA 77.
>
> Can anyone clarify?
>
> The forthcoming DA 55 F1.4 is presumably a successor to the 85.

Portraits need to be sharp ... particularly the eyes ... but fine  
details are less important than flattering the subject (if that's the  
point of the photograph).

A lens designed for portraiture is generally designed to perform best  
near wide open for shallow DoF and in the 5-10 foot focus range. And  
to have good out-of-focus rendering qualities, again to support the  
shallow DoF approach to portraiture.

Really good lenses perform well throughout the focusing range, of  
course. I don't know anything about the FA*85 specifically. The M85/2  
was a fine portrait lens, but a little long for my tastes on the DSLR  
bodies.

The DA70 Limited and FA43 Limited make excellent lenses for  
portraiture at large apertures while also being excellent for  
landscape work stopped down.

Godfrey

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Re: PESO: Bath time ;-)

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Lovely shot, Mark!

I've visited Bath. The architecture is very impressive. One of these  
days I'll get back there and photograph it...

G

On Nov 22, 2007, at 8:16 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

> http://www.robertstech.com/pages/fotoblog/7d005607.htm
> PZ-1p, FA*24mm f2.0 and Kodak E100SW

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RE: OT: Microsoft Access

[Bob W]

Hattenschweiler. 

I think it's named after one of Bill Robb's dogs.

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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of David J Brooks
> Sent: 23 November 2007 13:04
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> Subject: Re: OT: Microsoft Access
> 
> On 11/23/07, Leon Altoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi Mark,
> >
> > I don't know if you have gotten the solution yet - there 
> are a lot of
> > messages around the place.  This is a known bug and it got me a
long
> > time ago.  the problem is actually with a font which Access 
> can't find a
> > license for ans so won't start.  the solution is to delete 
> the font from
> > your computer and then Access will work fine.
> >
> > The font name is hatten.  I have also had problems with a font
> > hatten.
> 
> Man hatten??
> 
> Dave
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> >   Leon
> >
> > http://www.bluering.org.au
> > http://www.bluering.org.au/leon
> >
> >
> > Mark Roberts wrote:
> > > Having a software problem and hoping someone can offer help.
> > >
> > > I have a photo database in Microsoft Access 97 which I 
> wrote years ago
> > > and have still been using. When I bought a new computer 
> this summer I
> > > reinstalled Microsoft Office from my original disc. 
> Everything runs
> > > fine except Access, which won't start and gives me a 
> message "Microsoft
> > > Office can't start because there is no license for it on 
> this machine".
> > > Damned odd because I do, and have always had, a legal 
> install disc, one
> > > that has worked in the past whenever I needed it.
> > >
> > > Uninstalling/reinstalling didn't help.
> > >
> > > I can extract all the data in the tables through other 
> software, but
> > > I'd really like to be able to run my original database.
> > >
> > > Any suggestions or hacks on offer?
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Re: OT: Black Friday

[John Francis]

On Fri, Nov 23, 2007 at 07:54:03AM -0800, Jim Apilado wrote:
> Just curious.   Is there a Black Friday in Canada?  It's called Black  
> Friday because U.S. retailers hope their sales year will get into the  
> black by having lots of shoppers buying their presents early the day  
> after the U.S. Thanksgiving holiday.   I think it's crazy to flock to  
> a store during the early hours to get a "bargain."  I heard in the  
> news that some woman would spend $2000 US on this day.
> 
> Jim A.

$2000? Chicken feed!  Several stores are offering single items that
cost more than that (the most obvious of which are large-screen TVs).


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Re: PDML photographers: You guys are good!

[Ken Waller]

>I found myself scratching my head over why the 
> photographer even submitted the shot in the first place.

I do the same with a good number of those submitted.

Kenneth Waller
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Subject: PDML photographers: You guys are good!


>I was just browsing through the DP Review Pentax forum and, as is 
> becoming usual, there were a few posts about photos that were rejected 
> by the Pentax Gallery, with the submitter scratching his head over why 
> they were rejected. And I found myself scratching my head over why the 
> photographer even submitted the shot in the first place.
> 
> Not to denigrate the people at the DP Review forum: Most of them don't 
> have a lot of experience and we all started that way. But it just 
> served as a reminder of the quality of work I typically see from the 
> PDML.


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FS Black Friday: Sigma EX 70-200 F2.8

[Joseph Tainter]

Give yourself a present.

This is the older, non-DG version. It is also the non-macro version 
(which means that it is better at 200 mm than the current macro 
version). I will part with it sadly, but just acquired the FA* 80-200 F2.8.

This one is a classic: Sharp across the zoom range and a very good 
performer overall. I have had it about 4-1/2 years, but haven't used it 
much since Pentax's DSLRs came out. The optics are fine, with a little 
dust inside that won't affect images. (It hasn't affected mine.) The 
body is perfect except for a small area at the tripod collar where the 
paint has rubbed down to metal. This really is very small. It lacks the 
hood and has a replacement front cap. The rear cap is original.

The current, macro version of this lens is not available in Pentax 
mount, and it is not clear if it will be any time soon. When it does 
become available, the macro version is not as good at 200 mm. as this lens.

On the used market this lens is nearly unobtainable. Many people want one.

Holiday price: U.S. $950.00 + shipping. Contact me if interested:

jtainter at mindspring dot com

It would bring this much on eBay, possibly a bit more.

Happy weekend, all.

Joe

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Re: FA 77mm Ltd. - An observation

[Joseph Tainter]

Mark wrote:

"Human beings don't recognize faces by fine details and sharp, detailed 
portraits don't look like the way we remember the faces of people we 
know.That's why the "portrait lens" has long been quite a different 
animal form lenses intended for other purposes."

-

I've never owned a lens designed primarily for portraiture, but from 
what I understand, they are not supposed to be overly sharp. I am 
puzzled, then, about the reports of the FA* 85 F1.4. It is reputed to be 
very sharp close in, but a little worse for landscape shots than the FA 77.

Can anyone clarify?

The forthcoming DA 55 F1.4 is presumably a successor to the 85.

Thanks,

Joe

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Re: PESO - Queen St at Dusk

[Ken Waller]

Nice capture, but it has a "tilted to the left" (ie CCW) feel about it.

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From: "Adam Maas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PESO - Queen St at Dusk


> Low light and in the rain in Toronto, no weather-sealing either.
> 
> http://flickr.com/photos/mawz/1994666423/
> 
> Larger/Direct Link:
> 
> http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2037/1994666423_1fe0c5a709_b.jpg
> 
> *istDS, DA 18-55, 1/[EMAIL PROTECTED], 18mm, ISO1600
> 
> -Adam


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Re: PC problem??????/

[David J Brooks]

On 11/23/07, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> - Original Message -
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> Subject: Re: PC problem??/
>
>
> > The thing fired up ok this morn. I ran disk checker, had to restart to
> > run, and it restarted ok. I don';t see any errors report anywere.
> >
> > Hopfully it was a one time thing.
>
> Get anything you want to keep off that drive. It will probably fail sooner
> rather than later.

All important photos, downloaded setup for PS, Lumipix etc and
documents are on CD/DVD and or the external Maxtors.

In your opinion Bill, should i look at getting the HD replaced(its
only a 80 gig at the moment). I know when this one was replaced 18
months or so, he mapped all of my files and programs from the old one,
and istalled the new HD the put the programes and files on the new
one..

Sounds like this is done all the time and not a big deal, ??eh.

Dave
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> William Robb
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Re: OT: Black Friday

[David J Brooks]

Only thing i can think of is Boxing Day, Dec 26th. Thats our big
bargin day. Our Thanksgiving, being in early October, still leaves a
lot of time for Xmas shopping.

Liz does most of ours in Feb and March. Its about 90% done and
everything bough so far is wrapped.

Dave

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> Just curious.   Is there a Black Friday in Canada?  It's called Black
> Friday because U.S. retailers hope their sales year will get into the
> black by having lots of shoppers buying their presents early the day
> after the U.S. Thanksgiving holiday.   I think it's crazy to flock to
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> news that some woman would spend $2000 US on this day.
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Re: FA 77mm Ltd. - An observation

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On 11/23/07, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Dave, as a long time portrait shooter, I am going to go out on a limb here
> and say that your instructor was full of manure.

Only manure Bill. You must be in a good mood today.

LOL

The regular instructor was unavailable for the class, and they hired
the lady that does pet work.

Maybe that's why, although i got some good pet trick out of it.

Dave
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FS Friday - M lenses and some other goodies

[Scott Loveless]

M35/2.8 BGN $50  Surface marks on the barrel and paint nicks in the
filter threads.
M50/1.7 EX  $60
M85/2   BGN $150 This one has a few paint nicks in the filter threads and 
will not stop down to f22.  I can see no difference between f16 and f22. 
   I contacted Eric Hendrickson last year about this problem, and he 
told me that it might be a loose diaphragm pin.  He also said that if it 
was a diaphragm pin, he could fix it for about $30.

*ist (film body) with battery grip.  There is a small rub on the body. 
Otherwise, it's cosmetically in very nice shape.  The shutter release 
button on the body is not working properly.  When depressed half-way it 
will focus/meter/whatever it's supposed  to do, but the shutter will not 
release when the button is pushed all the way down.  The shutter release 
on the battery grip is working fine.  I'm guessing the switch on the 
body is either damaged or dirty.  No guarantees.  Includes body cap. 
Make me an offer.

MX winder.  Cosmetically rough, but it works.  I bought this a while 
back from a fellow PDMLer.  I think I paid about $35 for it.  So $30 
sounds good to me.

Paypal preferred.  Actual shipping costs will be added.

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Re: FA 77mm Ltd. - An observation

[Mark Roberts]

Stan Halpin wrote:

>All of which is to say that, while I agree with Mark that we do  
>recognize and observe others at a grosser level of detail, it is also  
>true that we recognize and are uncomfortable at some unconscious  
>level when there is less detail than we are able to discern in real  
>life. We can cope with a softened portrait and may even find it  
>pleasing, but we recognize that it is an artificial representation.

I can think of a good example of overdoing the lack of detail in 
portraits: Remember those scary-looking Photoshop jobs of girls with 
big eyes, unnaturally plastic-looking skin, etc? Discussed on the list 
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Re: PESO: "Sun Princess" (YABP)

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 11/23/2007 2:27:34 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Nov 23, 2007 7:11 AM,  Rick Womer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Nice, Dave, but I think  it tries to do a bit too much.
>  To hold the reflections on the  right (which are very
> nice) you've had to let the ships blow out,  especially
> the one on the left.

You're right. I have another  version where I cropped the left  side:



I  think this one works a bit better.

Thanks for  looking.

Cheers,

Dave

==
Yes, much  better.

Marnie :-) Though it's tinsy  winsy.

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Re: SV: One shot a week for 6-8 years

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 11/21/2007 8:41:59 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Godfrey, I wouldn't  want to rely on a digtial camera to be operational over
this long period of  time - eight years is a long time. Can I still get
battteries for it in 8  years? If it dies, can I replace it with a compatible
one?

Jens  Bladt


Also you might want to sell it to upgrade to a new  DSLR. Jens, all you 
really need to do is use the same lens, even though your  camera may change. 
Same 
lens and close to the same position.

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Re: PESO: "Sun Princess" (YABP)

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 11/22/2007 2:24:09 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Nice, Dave, but I think  it tries to do a bit too much.
To hold the reflections on the right (which  are very
nice) you've had to let the ships blow out, especially
the one on  the left.

Rick

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What he said. You might try  cropping a bit. Strengthen the photo.

Marnie  :-)

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Re: PESO: Bath time ;-)

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In a message dated 11/22/2007 8:16:39 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  writes:
http://www.robertstech.com/pages/fotoblog/7d005607.htm

PZ-1p,  FA*24mm f2.0 and Kodak E100SW

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Whoa! Nice shot.  

Coincidentally I was reading something about Bath recently and decided  to 
google to learn more about it and saw the crescent online. First I had heard  
about that part of Bath. So this shot is like a bingo, or  something.

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Re: Thanksgiving

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 11/22/2007 8:07:36 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
For all of those who  celebrate,
And all you who do not,
I hope your day was good
And that  dinner was hot.

Godfrey

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Re: OT: Black Friday

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 11/23/2007 7:57:03 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Just  curious.   Is there a Black Friday in Canada?  It's called  Black  
Friday because U.S. retailers hope their sales year will get  into the  
black by having lots of shoppers buying their presents early  the day  
after the U.S. Thanksgiving holiday.   I think it's  crazy to flock to  
a store during the early hours to get a  "bargain."  I heard in the  
news that some woman would spend $2000  US on this day.

Jim A.

==
I thought it was called  Black Friday because stores open early (when it's 
still dark) and stay open late  (after it gets dark). Ergo, it's a long, dark 
shopping day. I read that  explanation somewhere recently, anyway.

I never heard it called Black  Friday though, before this year. I guess I 
wasn't paying  attention.

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Re: SuperA (and programA ?) handgrip

[Bob Sullivan]

I do...

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SuperA (and programA ?) handgrip

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I'm in need of a SuperA handgrip.
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Re: FA 77mm Ltd. - An observation

[Stan Halpin]

I am loosely involved with some research being done at the Institute  
for Creative Technology - in one line of work (not my project) they  
are trying to develop the technique for ultra-realistic computer- 
generated avatars for use in training films, etc. If you use anything  
more than a talking head with constant lighting, then the  
representation becomes a huge challenge. Think of the variation in  
lighting on a face as a person (avatar) moves from beneath a portico  
in heavy shade, across a courtyard in full sun, through the shade of  
a large tree, back into the sun, and then into shade from the portico  
on the other side (now partially lit by reflected light from the  
courtyard flagstones). To do this you need a model of the light color  
and intensity (relatively easy) and a model of the reflectance  
characteristics of the skin surface. A 2mm level-of-detail model of  
the face is not sufficient, they are finding they need to go to 1mm  
detail (individual pores). Otherwise large areas of the face look  
very artificial, like someone with a combination of excessive Botax  
plus excessive makeup.

All of which is to say that, while I agree with Mark that we do  
recognize and observe others at a grosser level of detail, it is also  
true that we recognize and are uncomfortable at some unconscious  
level when there is less detail than we are able to discern in real  
life. We can cope with a softened portrait and may even find it  
pleasing, but we recognize that it is an artificial representation.

stan

On Nov 23, 2007, at 9:07 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

> William Robb wrote:
>
>>> On Nov 23, 2007 10:02 PM, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
>>> wrote:

 The one thing the teacher of the basic portriat class i took this
 spring kept saying, was that when taking ones portrait, it is about
 the face, the look. Any imperfections should be there in the photo.
 Thats who they are.
>>>
>>> I agree, but my "models" bitch & moan about looking old (to which I
>>> reply "You are old" :-)
>>
>> If you are doing pictures for yourself, then do what you want, but if
> you
>> are doing pictures for other people, then do what they want. If your
> models
>> are whining that your pictures aren't flattering, you should probably
> do
>> what you can to improve their look for them. If all it takes is a
> softening
>> filter, then that's what you need to do.
>> Dave, as a long time portrait shooter, I am going to go out on a limb
> here
>> and say that your instructor was full of manure.
>
> The instructor was full of manure. And not only for aesthetic and
> commercial reasons, but for scientific ones as well: Human beings  
> don't
> recognize faces by fine details and sharp, detailed portraits don't
> look like the way we remember the faces of people we know.
> That's why the "portrait lens" has long been quite a different animal
> form lenses intended for other purposes.
>
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OT: Black Friday

[Jim Apilado]

Just curious.   Is there a Black Friday in Canada?  It's called Black  
Friday because U.S. retailers hope their sales year will get into the  
black by having lots of shoppers buying their presents early the day  
after the U.S. Thanksgiving holiday.   I think it's crazy to flock to  
a store during the early hours to get a "bargain."  I heard in the  
news that some woman would spend $2000 US on this day.

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Re: FA 77mm Ltd. - An observation

[Mark Roberts]

Bob Sullivan wrote:

>You can always fuzz them up a bit.
>Try some gausian blurr.
>You can't ever make them sharper...

Two possible Photoshop techniques:

One:
Make a duplicate layer 
Brighten it up a lot
Apply gaussian blur - a lot (20-30 pixel radius)
Change blend mode to overlay
Adjust opacity to taste

Two:
Use CleanSkinFX software 
(http://www.mediachance.com/digicam/cleanskin.htm)
I find it a bit too extreme on its own, but if done to a duplicate 
image and applied as a layer to the original, it can be useful - 
experiment with changing opacity and erasing areas where you want 
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Re: FA 77mm Ltd. - An observation

[Mark Roberts]

William Robb wrote:

>> On Nov 23, 2007 10:02 PM, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> The one thing the teacher of the basic portriat class i took this
>>> spring kept saying, was that when taking ones portrait, it is about
>>> the face, the look. Any imperfections should be there in the photo.
>>> Thats who they are.
>>
>> I agree, but my "models" bitch & moan about looking old (to which I
>> reply "You are old" :-)
>
>If you are doing pictures for yourself, then do what you want, but if 
you 
>are doing pictures for other people, then do what they want. If your 
models 
>are whining that your pictures aren't flattering, you should probably 
do 
>what you can to improve their look for them. If all it takes is a 
softening 
>filter, then that's what you need to do.
>Dave, as a long time portrait shooter, I am going to go out on a limb 
here 
>and say that your instructor was full of manure.

The instructor was full of manure. And not only for aesthetic and 
commercial reasons, but for scientific ones as well: Human beings don't 
recognize faces by fine details and sharp, detailed portraits don't 
look like the way we remember the faces of people we know.
That's why the "portrait lens" has long been quite a different animal 
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attractive mineral

[ann sanfedele]

Here is the link  - not my photo -  read my note before linking...

http://tinyurl.com/277hfl

I listed a chunk of rough lepidolite on ebay last night - mentioning it 
came from what I always referred to as the "Newry mine"
in Maine but asking the potential buyers or browsers to fill in the 
blanks about the Newry mines/quarries if they knew.

to my delight, the co-author of  books put out by the Maine Geological 
Society responded this morning. So I googled
to get more details with "Minerology of Maine"  the page with the most 
hits comes up first, of course.  

Though you guys would be amused.

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Re: FA 77mm Ltd. - An observation

[David Savage]

On Nov 23, 2007 11:38 PM, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I find it's best to treat blemishes or wrinkles individually. A very
> soft brush set at 30% opacity with a 30% fill rate can soften nicely.
> The color, of course, is picked up from a directly adjacent part of
> the face. That technique seems to work better than the healing brush.
> Paul

For individual blemishes I use the clone tool with the mode set to
lighten (or shadows & dark blemishes) or darken (for hotspots & light
blemishes). Dial the opacity down to around 15-10% and slowly build up
the necessary amount of "correction".

It works much better than the healing brush when dealing with skin.

Cheers,

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Re: PESO: Autumn morning

[Rick Womer]

Timber,

I like the idea and the composition.  On the web,
though, the leaves don't stand out very much from the
ballast.  If you're shooting raw, you might try
boosting the saturation.

I took some similar pics yesterday, actually, that I
may get around to posting this weekend.

Cheers,

Rick


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> welcomed :P
> 
> This morning I was waiting for the tram and I was
> impressed by the 
> colors of autumn. So I took the cam and made a shot.
> I hope you like it :D
> 
>
http://timber.clancode.hu/e107_plugins/coppermine_menu/displayimage.php?pos=-233
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> f3.5/135
> 
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Re: PESO: B-17 at Orlando Executive

[Anthony Farr]

The thanks go to you, Walter, for providing a great shot for me to
mess around with.  I suspected that you were having an off-day with
your conversions, as you've confirmed.  That's something I've also
experienced, not getting a handle on things and chasing my tail around
the colour wheel but never managing to hit the bulls-eye.

At least it's cheaper now that we don't need to burn a box of paper
getting our eyes tuned to correct tone and colour balance.  In
darkroom days the culprit was viewing light quality, now monitor
calibrations are the bogeymen of picture quality.  FWIW I don't have
my monitor calibrated by any software or instruments, and whenever it
has been calibrated I always run into problems, except years ago with
the late lamented Picture Publisher.  I simply make sure that photos
of undoubted high quality I encounter around the web, as well as grey
step wedges and colour patches, look their best on my monitor.  I
still trust my own eyes.

regards,
Anthony Farr

On 23/11/2007, Walter Hamler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Your PS skills are obviously far greater than mine. Well done.
>
> My origonal attempt at those images were in Lightroom from raws. I
> then had to export into PSE5 to make a jpg small enough for the web.
> It was a dreary day and I was having problems with my monitor
> calibration.
>
> All that has changed now with a calibrated monitor. I made some better
> renditions but just made prints and forgot that I had posted that
> sickly version. !  :-(
>
> Thanks for the perkup. It looks great, much better than the day I shot it.
>
> Walt
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Re: FA 77mm Ltd. - An observation

[Paul Stenquist]

I find it's best to treat blemishes or wrinkles individually. A very  
soft brush set at 30% opacity with a 30% fill rate can soften nicely.  
The color, of course, is picked up from a directly adjacent part of  
the face. That technique seems to work better than the healing brush.
Paul
On Nov 23, 2007, at 9:05 AM, David Savage wrote:

> On Nov 23, 2007 10:30 PM, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Every wrinkle, pore, blemish etc. is rendered in razor sharp detail.
>>>
>>
>> Yup. I noticed that when I bought my first 77mm LTD. I still use  
>> softening
>> filters to knock the lenses doen a bit since there is no Photoshop  
>> effect
>> that matches the look of a Softar.
>
> If I do much more of this in the future that may be worth considering.
>
> I've been sitting here for the last hour or so trying various
> softening techniques in PS and none of them are what I'd call
> pleasing.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave
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Re: FA 77mm Ltd. - An observation

[David Savage]

On Nov 23, 2007 10:49 PM, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I agree, but my "models" bitch & moan about looking old (to which I
> > reply "You are old" :-)
> >
>
> If you are doing pictures for yourself, then do what you want

These are purely lighting technique test photos. The resultant
portraits of Mum & Dad are a bonus.

They can moan all they want.

Cheers,

Dave

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Re: FA 77mm Ltd. - An observation

[David Savage]

On Nov 23, 2007 10:30 PM, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Every wrinkle, pore, blemish etc. is rendered in razor sharp detail.
> >
>
> Yup. I noticed that when I bought my first 77mm LTD. I still use softening
> filters to knock the lenses doen a bit since there is no Photoshop effect
> that matches the look of a Softar.

If I do much more of this in the future that may be worth considering.

I've been sitting here for the last hour or so trying various
softening techniques in PS and none of them are what I'd call
pleasing.

Cheers,

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Re: FA 77mm Ltd. - An observation

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "David Savage"
Subject: Re: FA 77mm Ltd. - An observation


> On Nov 23, 2007 10:02 PM, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Dave.
>>
>> The one thing the teacher of the basic portriat class i took this
>> spring kept saying, was that when taking ones portrait, it is about
>> the face, the look. Any imperfections should be there in the photo.
>> Thats who they are.
>
> I agree, but my "models" bitch & moan about looking old (to which I
> reply "You are old" :-)
>

If you are doing pictures for yourself, then do what you want, but if you 
are doing pictures for other people, then do what they want. If your models 
are whining that your pictures aren't flattering, you should probably do 
what you can to improve their look for them. If all it takes is a softening 
filter, then that's what you need to do.
Dave, as a long time portrait shooter, I am going to go out on a limb here 
and say that your instructor was full of manure.

William Robb 


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Re: FA 77mm Ltd. - An observation

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "David Savage"
Subject: FA 77mm Ltd. - An observation


>I did some portraits of my parents this evening & I have to say that
> the 77 Ltd., for all it's good points, is a very unflattering lens for
> shooting people with a less than perfect complexion.

>
> Every wrinkle, pore, blemish etc. is rendered in razor sharp detail.
>

Yup. I noticed that when I bought my first 77mm LTD. I still use softening 
filters to knock the lenses doen a bit since there is no Photoshop effect 
that matches the look of a Softar.

William Robb 


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Re: PC problem??????/

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "David J Brooks"
Subject: Re: PC problem??/


> The thing fired up ok this morn. I ran disk checker, had to restart to
> run, and it restarted ok. I don';t see any errors report anywere.
>
> Hopfully it was a one time thing.

Get anything you want to keep off that drive. It will probably fail sooner 
rather than later.

William Robb 


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Re: FA 77mm Ltd. - An observation

[David Savage]

On Nov 23, 2007 10:02 PM, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dave.
>
> The one thing the teacher of the basic portriat class i took this
> spring kept saying, was that when taking ones portrait, it is about
> the face, the look. Any imperfections should be there in the photo.
> Thats who they are.

I agree, but my "models" bitch & moan about looking old (to which I
reply "You are old" :-)

> Made sense to me.
>
> However its is a sharp lens is'nt it.:-)

Very. Here's a 100% crop from one shot:



Cheers,

Dave

> On 11/23/07, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I did some portraits of my parents this evening & I have to say that
> > the 77 Ltd., for all it's good points, is a very unflattering lens for
> > shooting people with a less than perfect complexion.
> >
> > Every wrinkle, pore, blemish etc. is rendered in razor sharp detail.
> >
> > :-)
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > /observation

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Re: PESO, PEOW etc

[David J Brooks]

Maybe thats the problem, i have never seen him drink water.:-) I'll
switch the bowl to beer.

Dave

On 11/23/07, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Nov 23, 2007 10:03 PM, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I was away for two weeks, sorry, i'll start looking.:-0
> >
> > Here Frank, here Frank.
>
> I hope you left out a big bowl of water for him.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave
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For Sale Friday: SF-1 and Super Program

[David J Brooks]

Hi Gang.

I have, half heartedly, offered these up in the past and am doing so again.

SF-1: KEH has one in bargin condition for $35.00. I think mine is in
that range and will sell for this. I have not used it for several
years, but it worked fine up until storage.

Super Program: KEH has on in Ex condition for$ 98.00 but mine is more
in ok condition. Worked fine until storage a few years ago. Did a
wedding with it in 2002 and with AF280T worked great. The lock switch
does not, and when you press the shutter 1/2 way to activate the
meter, you have to find the "sweet spot" but it does/did work.

Other than that its in pretty decent shape. Stored in my Lowpro for
about 3 years now. Last used around Oct 2004. Shot a few rolls of
slide film.
Asking $75.00 for this. Since our dollar is pretty much at par with
the US dollar, take your pick.:-)

Shipping is extra, and would preferr to deal with North American
buyers, but will try and accomadate buyes outside this zone. Its more
for th eshipping, its pretty dear, and may not be worth it.

Dave

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Re: PESO, PEOW etc

[David Savage]

On Nov 23, 2007 10:03 PM, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was away for two weeks, sorry, i'll start looking.:-0
>
> Here Frank, here Frank.

I hope you left out a big bowl of water for him.

Cheers,

Dave

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Re: OT: Microsoft Access

[David J Brooks]

On 11/23/07, Leon Altoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Mark,
>
> I don't know if you have gotten the solution yet - there are a lot of
> messages around the place.  This is a known bug and it got me a long
> time ago.  the problem is actually with a font which Access can't find a
> license for ans so won't start.  the solution is to delete the font from
> your computer and then Access will work fine.
>
> The font name is hatten.  I have also had problems with a font
> hatten.

Man hatten??

Dave
>
> Hope this helps.
>
>   Leon
>
> http://www.bluering.org.au
> http://www.bluering.org.au/leon
>
>
> Mark Roberts wrote:
> > Having a software problem and hoping someone can offer help.
> >
> > I have a photo database in Microsoft Access 97 which I wrote years ago
> > and have still been using. When I bought a new computer this summer I
> > reinstalled Microsoft Office from my original disc. Everything runs
> > fine except Access, which won't start and gives me a message "Microsoft
> > Office can't start because there is no license for it on this machine".
> > Damned odd because I do, and have always had, a legal install disc, one
> > that has worked in the past whenever I needed it.
> >
> > Uninstalling/reinstalling didn't help.
> >
> > I can extract all the data in the tables through other software, but
> > I'd really like to be able to run my original database.
> >
> > Any suggestions or hacks on offer?
> >
> >
> >
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Re: PESO, PEOW etc

[David J Brooks]

I was away for two weeks, sorry, i'll start looking.:-0

Here Frank, here Frank.

Dave

On 11/23/07, Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And where is Frank?  Have we misplaced him?  Who's turn was it to
> watch him?  Regards,  Bob S.
>
> On Nov 23, 2007 5:42 AM, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Also PDLTCorF
> >
> > Please don't listen to Cotty or Frank.:-)  :-)
> >
> > Note all the smily face lads.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> > On 11/23/07, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > PESO: Picture/Photo Every So Often
> > > PAW: Picture/Photo A Week
> > > GESO: Gallery Every So Often
> > > PUG: Pentax Users Gallery 
> > > PEOW: Picture/Photo Every Other Week (not widely used)
> > >
> > > More info in the Mini FAQ:
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > On Nov 23, 2007 7:40 PM, .timber>>code <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Could anyone tell me what does these P-words mean? :D
> > > >
> > > > So far I saw PESO, PEOW and PUG. So far I know Peso is a money, PUG is
> > > > for Pick Up Group in MMORPGs and PEOW sounds like firing a bullet :D
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > .t
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