Re: K20D pictures
Scott opined: That second photo looks pretty darn good. I'm not sure how some of the others couldn't see the banding in the 6400 example. Maybe because we're old and half blind?? :-). Seriously, I see what looks like trim in the shadow area where it moves from dark to light, and I see some geometric aligning of elements, but nothing like the color banding you can get by shooting your lens cap at long exposure. Anyway, the high ISO performance of the camera is far better than anything I've seen, and I'm going to use it to good advantage. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D questions
On Mar 6, 2008, at 2:08 AM, Tim Bray wrote: 1. How long will it take for my hand to stop telling me the front back wheels are awkwardly placed after 4 years carrying a *ist-D? It took me about two days. 2. Why does it have to be so big? [By the way, the K200D doesn't feel significantly smaller in the hand.] It has a lot of stuff in there. Much of the size is needed for shake reduction. 3. 23M .dng files, yow... maybe .pef would be more tractable? Yes, but the size doesn't bother me. 83 exposures on a 2 gig card is about right for me. I was getting 72 on 1 gig cards with my D, and that was a happy combination. 4. Why, when I tried to auto-white balance an ISO-1600 picture of a toddler in a bathtub using Lightroom's WB wand to click on the white porcelain, did the baby's flesh go all mottled when you look close up? You have to set color temperature manually for now. None of the software has yet been calibrated to work with the K20Ds DNG files. I'm just using the sliders in ACR and adjusting tint and temperature until I get the look I want. But that's what I do most of the time anyway. 5. Why, when I tried to do the same to an ISO-1600 shot of boys playing soccer in a yellow gym, did it snap into violent purple? See previous answer. 6. Am I going to need to buy a Power Mac to process large numbers of photos in Lightroom without making my computer wheeze audibly? Try ACR. It's considerably trimmer. 7. Am I going to have to use the software that came with the camera? You can. I won't. Although Savage says it's pretty good. 8. Why is there a prominent switch for turning the image stabilization off, wouldn't you want it on always? You don't want it on when shooting on a tripod. 9. Why do you want a RAW button, wouldn't most people shoot in RAW all the time or JPEG all the time? Some like to switch from JPEG to RAW. I don't. But I set it up to take a JPEG and a RAW when pressed. That can be useful at times. 10. What do other people put on the User setting? Nothing. 11. What's the smart way to use the Live View option? On a tripod. 12. Why does the shutter noise have to be so loud? To keep you awake:-). Some of the above are actual questions. -T -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K10D v K20D
From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/03/07 Fri AM 04:07:13 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: K10D v K20D Generally true, but as the K20D is emerging, I'll be scanning some evaluations. Lister's comments will be read with interest. Smoke me a .dng, I'll be back for breakfast. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: another lens specific focus adjustment
I find the out-of-focus rendering to be just fine. In most cases, bokeh is a function of what's back there rather than how the lens renders it. Yet both bad and good bokeh are most often considered a function of the lens, when in truth they're a function of the brightness and variation of the scene itself. Some examples of DA50-200 bokeh: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4527667 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4604194 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6382714 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6363497 On Mar 6, 2008, at 11:11 PM, David Savage wrote: On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tested the DA 50-200 tonight at 80mm, f4.5. That's one sharp lens. I agree. I don't have it, but I had use of one for a while and tested it systematically against the old SMC F 70-210. The DA 50-200 held its own in that test, being just a little weaker at the long end. Funny thing is, I've seen internal Pentax documents (know ask how) that say the DA 50-200 is weak at the long end, and they've got to do better with the forthcoming 75-300. I'm puzzled by that. That little telezoom strikes me as a very decent performer, and excellent value. It's ok for what it is, but the OoF rendering can be odd to say the least. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: See ya 'Liz
We saw the Old Lady back in 2004 in Norway and it was truly majestic. i remember telling to my wife that having left 24 mm at home I cannot fit her all in with 35 mm lens. It was back when 24 mm was still 24 mm without any equivalency. Good old film days and good old cruise mega-ships ;-). Boris David Savage wrote: G'day All, I've put together a small 4 image gallery to put last nights PESO into a bit more context (~490kb page) http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/GESO/GESO_016/index.htm Cheers, Dave P.S The Aussies on list might recognise the blue yellow vessel from the news. That's the Customs Fisheries vessel that shadowed the Japanese whaling fleet. P.P.S. Brian, that shot was out 0.38 degrees ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Any US list members with knowledge abou the used (motor) yacht market?
Hi Pål! Long time, no... um... sea? Ok, sorry, I just couldn't resist. Sounds like and old dream nearing realisation there. As a hopeless landlubber I wouldn't know the first thing about the yacht market in any country, but it strikes me as a terrible gamble to make such investments over the internet, unseen. Are you planning to go over there and look for one? Btw, to make this on-topic, you could always claim you wish to take your Pentax for a circumnavigation. :-) Best, Jostein 2008/3/7, Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sorry about the OT message but I'm considering buying a 42ft Grand Banks motor yacht from Florida. Anyoneone who knows the general state of the market and whether asking prices are (very) inflated? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: SMC 2.8-4.0 40-80mm
Susan wrote: This old K-lens is not too bad, is it? http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/2316211100/ Comments are welcome. Regards Jens Not at all! I further enlarged the Flicker image to twice as wide as my 21 screen, and it held together well. The color is great! Very nice indeed. I have a little SMC Pentax-A 35-70mm f/4.0 that does an excellent job for me. Similar to yours, I'd believe, and a nice walking around range. keith whaley -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Need help with maritime terminology
From: Ken Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/03/06 Thu PM 09:31:03 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Need help with maritime terminology I've never seen a yellow one, either. So I would call it mutant. It could be ailing. Seasick? Or pining for the .. no, I won't go there. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Music
Doug, thanks for the lesson. Great stuff! Boris-who-might-be-shooting-live-music-in-the-future Doug Brewer wrote: a few shots of stuff you don't usually see from me: http://photos.drivingtheflies.com/index.php?page=album.7 enjoy -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Online Image Application
I didn't say it was a good example But a photoshop style image editor that you use via your web browser, anywhere, on any computer is pretty neat. Cheers, Dave On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 8:04 PM, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/03/06 Thu PM 10:35:01 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Online Image Application Bob W wrote: I thought some of you might find this interesting: http://a.viary.com/blog Cheers, Dave Who needs software in a world where there are knives? http://website.lineone.net/~a1/jocelyne/ Argh! My eyes! Make it stop burning! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Rosie by the Window (once again)
You got S.T.Y.L.E. ;-) Boris frank theriault wrote: A week or two ago I posted a horrendous version of this. Today's version is a different frame of the same shoot, where I metered on the inside of the room (without the window): http://tinyurl.com/2rcyzr http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R81QIzBtIRI/Bm0/74AV0ykcRJ0/s1600-h/feb_27_08+001.jpg I think this version is a bit more palatable. Comments always welcome. cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D pictures
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: K20D pictures Scott opined: That second photo looks pretty darn good. I'm not sure how some of the others couldn't see the banding in the 6400 example. Maybe because we're old and half blind?? :-). I'm wondering if high monitor contrast is the culprit. I know you are using a Mac, and I expect it is calibrated for photographic use. When I went monitor shopping, I deliberately looked for one with a low contrast number because I feel they are better for image editing, and I find what I see on screen is near enought to what I'll seee on paper. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: SMCP A 50/1.2
- Original Message - From: Boris Liberman Subject: WTB: SMCP A 50/1.2 Hi! If anyone has the subject that they might be willing to sell to me, please turn to me off-list. I don't have one for sale, but my cruel mean streak just wanted me to tell you: I have one and you don't HaHa HaHa I have one and you don't Ha HaHa Haha I'm such an ass. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Morning Commute
Frank, you live in a dangerous town... You should see the first (just/merely) rain here... ;-) Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D questions
Funny. I sent this about 24 hours ago, and it's just showing up on the list now. That's been happening a lot lately. No big deal, just a curiosity. Paul On Mar 6, 2008, at 7:44 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: On Mar 6, 2008, at 2:08 AM, Tim Bray wrote: 1. How long will it take for my hand to stop telling me the front back wheels are awkwardly placed after 4 years carrying a *ist-D? It took me about two days. 2. Why does it have to be so big? [By the way, the K200D doesn't feel significantly smaller in the hand.] It has a lot of stuff in there. Much of the size is needed for shake reduction. 3. 23M .dng files, yow... maybe .pef would be more tractable? Yes, but the size doesn't bother me. 83 exposures on a 2 gig card is about right for me. I was getting 72 on 1 gig cards with my D, and that was a happy combination. 4. Why, when I tried to auto-white balance an ISO-1600 picture of a toddler in a bathtub using Lightroom's WB wand to click on the white porcelain, did the baby's flesh go all mottled when you look close up? You have to set color temperature manually for now. None of the software has yet been calibrated to work with the K20Ds DNG files. I'm just using the sliders in ACR and adjusting tint and temperature until I get the look I want. But that's what I do most of the time anyway. 5. Why, when I tried to do the same to an ISO-1600 shot of boys playing soccer in a yellow gym, did it snap into violent purple? See previous answer. 6. Am I going to need to buy a Power Mac to process large numbers of photos in Lightroom without making my computer wheeze audibly? Try ACR. It's considerably trimmer. 7. Am I going to have to use the software that came with the camera? You can. I won't. Although Savage says it's pretty good. 8. Why is there a prominent switch for turning the image stabilization off, wouldn't you want it on always? You don't want it on when shooting on a tripod. 9. Why do you want a RAW button, wouldn't most people shoot in RAW all the time or JPEG all the time? Some like to switch from JPEG to RAW. I don't. But I set it up to take a JPEG and a RAW when pressed. That can be useful at times. 10. What do other people put on the User setting? Nothing. 11. What's the smart way to use the Live View option? On a tripod. 12. Why does the shutter noise have to be so loud? To keep you awake:-). Some of the above are actual questions. -T -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Need help with maritime terminology
Over here, they're more like proliferating. Jostein 2008/3/6, Ken Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've never seen a yellow one, either. So I would call it mutant. It could be ailing. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Need help with maritime terminology From: AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/03/05 Wed PM 06:45:03 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Need help with maritime terminology Dear gang, Can someone please tell me the English name of the orange-coloured thingy in this image? http://www.alunfoto.no/temp/20070616-0037_lzn.jpg Looks to be half cleat, half bollard. http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/policy/army/fm/5-480/Ch9.htm I've never seen a yellow one, either. So I would call it mutant. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D focus adjustment
On Mar 4, 2008, at 5:48, David J Brooks wrote: K20D will have to wait. I'm more interested in getting a good F2.8 or F4 zoom for the horse ring. I plan to make the K10D the mane camera if a lens comes out soon enough. However if i make money early on my shows, i might have enough for both Mane camera for horse shows? Did you do that on purpose? -Charles -- Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: Dolls
Strange, I actually read somewhere that new 40/2 wasn't all that good and that it actually seemed to have lost to 40 ltd by Pentax during some sort of comparison shoot. I for one stick with my 43 ltd for a small size optic. Boris William Robb wrote: Years ago, I bought a collectors set of porcelain dolls for my wife. A couple of weeks ago, I bought a 58mm lens from Cameraquest. Sadly, a 40mm lens was shipped in it's place, and I decided that while one cannot have too many lenses, I already have two 40mm lenses, and I should at least try to show a bit of fiscal responsibility while living off the avails of the legal profession, so I sent it back. However, I am weak, and I tried the lens out anyway. I just looked at the files today, and am thinking, this is a heck of a nice lens. Sharp, and at the same time, creamy. Anyone thinking of the Pentax 40mm LTD should do themselves a favour and think of the 40mm Voigtlander instead, http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/dolls.html Have fun William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso Dog day afternoon
The red sign actually ruins it. Without it it would be really love photo, but the red sign... Boris David J Brooks wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7024466 Had a pretty decent snow storm roll through Tuesday night and most of the day Wednesday. Took some snow shots whilst testing out the K10D and DA 50 for focus. Not a good one to test focus, but i like this one. K10D DA 50 F2.8 WB adjusted in LR Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: SMC 2.8-4.0 40-80mm
On Fri, Mar 07, 2008 at 06:38:59AM +0100, Susan wrote: This old K-lens is not too bad, is it? http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/2316211100/ Comments are welcome. Regards Jens To nitpick - that's usually referred to as an M lens, not a K lens. It's not a terrible performer - I bought one in 1983 as my everyday lens for use with a Super Program - but it's not a stellar performer, either. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Night Car
Frank, this is excellent. Suddenly I feel 20 years back into winter evening... We had slightly different car design back then, and the language, you know, was different too, but these are really minute details compared with the emotional charge here. Thumbs up! Boris frank theriault wrote: http://tinyurl.com/36cf4v http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8wnFBqmwhI/Bmc/UaoZxbijN_c/s1600-h/mar_03_08+003.jpg Comments always welcome. Thanks, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D pictures
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: K20D pictures Scott opined: That second photo looks pretty darn good. I'm not sure how some of the others couldn't see the banding in the 6400 example. Maybe because we're old and half blind?? :-). I'm wondering if high monitor contrast is the culprit. I know you are using a Mac, and I expect it is calibrated for photographic use. When I went monitor shopping, I deliberately looked for one with a low contrast number because I feel they are better for image editing, and I find what I see on screen is near enought to what I'll seee on paper. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D pictures
I'll post some high ISO stuff from the D300 then. It's comparable to the K20D in performance in my opinion, with the K20D having an edge only in resolution. -Adam On 3/6/08, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only banding I see is a streak of blue/violet, that is the edge of a picture frame. I've seen some particularly awful artifacts in slightly underexposed 3200 shots from my *ist-Ds but hell they were under exposed I wouldn't expect particularly good results from anything under those circumstances. The ISO 800 exposure seems to be exceptionally clean. The 6400 exposure seems to be very clean for that ISO as well, though I have to admit I haven't seen any output from the new Nikon. Maybe it looks bad in comparison to that, but the 6mp sensor on doesn't produce better at ISO 3200. Paul Stenquist wrote: That's banding? HAR! Maybe at pixel peeping levels, but not at normal viewing size and distance. And a K100d pic is far noiser, even at 1600. But to each their own. Paul On Mar 5, 2008, at 10:59 PM, Owen LaPrath wrote: The top image has that annoying banding I see in all K20d shots starting at iso1600. I have even seen it in iso800 shots! Sorry, I'll stick with my K100d :) later Owen - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, 05 March, 2008 19:37 Subject: K20D pictures I didn't do well today, but I did something. The top picture is shot at ISO6400!! With a 100% detail shot below. The studio thing was a 30 second light set-up shot at iso 800, because i am a dork sometimes. Below it is a 100% detail as well. None of the images recieved any post processing, other than the default settings in camera, and default settings in ACR. No sharpening, or levels or anything. http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/temp/k20/K20_page1.html The EXIF data is on the full frame shots, but the top picture is shot with the 77mm lens, 1/50th sec at f/2.5, ISO 6400. The portrait is with the 77mm lens, 1/160th sec at f/11, ISO 800. The page is 760K. Enjoy William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: For Starbucks fans
Enjoy :) http://www.theonion.com/content/node/28657 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Peekaboo, I See You
Great shot. Though after having seen a number of pictures from K20D I tend to think that ISO 100 is a thing of a past. Only older cameras and their respective users would take a shot at such low ISO ;-). No offense, no pun, just a mild irony. Boris David Savage wrote: G'day Trend Setters, Was out at a cafe yesterday, had a (new) camera, played a silly game with a little kid, took a picture thought I'd share (~140kb) http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/PESO/peso_042.htm As always any all comments welcome Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Any US list members with knowledge abou the used(motor) yacht market?
From: keith_w [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/03/07 Fri AM 01:49:57 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: Any US list members with knowledge abou the used(motor) yacht market? Pål Jensen wrote: - Original Message - From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Boats are a bigger money looser than sports cars/racing, photography, women children combined. Reply: Due to the almost worthless dollar, the Grand Banks yachts are almost half price in the US compared to market prices in Norway. Which it will nearly cost to have it shipped to Norway? Just shove it into the Gulf Stream with a GPS tracker on board. Pal can nip out in the Zodiac when it gets there. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Any US list members with knowledge abou the used (motor)yacht market?
It is indeed somewhat on topic as the yacht is my new shooting platform for my Pentax gear :-) I will buy it unseen! I was in Holland two years ago finding two boats. By the time I got home, both were sold! It costed me about $ 4000 and no boat! I will however do a marine survey. It cost cost around $1000. In addition, there are Norwegians in Florida who do business helping people buying boats arranging everything. For about 1.3 million Norwegian Kr (this include everything shipping + tax) I get a a boat that is worth in excess of 2 millions in Norway so the economical risk isn't that great. I will use it partly as a live aboard. I work one week and have one week off so I have plenty of time for boating and photography! - Original Message - From: AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 8:38 AM Subject: Re: OT: Any US list members with knowledge abou the used (motor)yacht market? Hi Pål! Long time, no... um... sea? Ok, sorry, I just couldn't resist. Sounds like and old dream nearing realisation there. As a hopeless landlubber I wouldn't know the first thing about the yacht market in any country, but it strikes me as a terrible gamble to make such investments over the internet, unseen. Are you planning to go over there and look for one? Btw, to make this on-topic, you could always claim you wish to take your Pentax for a circumnavigation. :-) Best, Jostein 2008/3/7, Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sorry about the OT message but I'm considering buying a 42ft Grand Banks motor yacht from Florida. Anyoneone who knows the general state of the market and whether asking prices are (very) inflated? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso Wings
What is this thing, for crying out loud??? Boris David J Brooks wrote: One more from this past trip. http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v408/divad_b/NTS%20PHOTOS/?action=viewcurrent=_MOR5512.jpg Equipment Express hauls the wind tower wings. They had a load parked beside us in Wyoming Ontario. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D pictures
That could be. My monitor is calibrated to match my printer output. It's by no means high contrast. Paul -- Original message -- From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: K20D pictures Scott opined: That second photo looks pretty darn good. I'm not sure how some of the others couldn't see the banding in the 6400 example. Maybe because we're old and half blind?? :-). I'm wondering if high monitor contrast is the culprit. I know you are using a Mac, and I expect it is calibrated for photographic use. When I went monitor shopping, I deliberately looked for one with a low contrast number because I feel they are better for image editing, and I find what I see on screen is near enought to what I'll seee on paper. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: another lens specific focus adjustment
- Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist Subject: Re: another lens specific focus adjustment I find the out-of-focus rendering to be just fine. In most cases, bokeh is a function of what's back there rather than how the lens renders it. Yet both bad and good bokeh are most often considered a function of the lens, when in truth they're a function of the brightness and variation of the scene itself. Some examples of DA50-200 bokeh: Bokeh is helped along greatly by having lots of aperture blades. It's one of the reasons why the Limiteds (and Voigtlanders, from what I've seen) have such nice bokeh. They have nine blade apertures. Any lens should have good bokeh wide open, since the entrance pupil is round. Some of the 5 blade lenses can get pretty scary a few stops down from wide open. If I am not mistaken, lenses with a bit of spherical aberation do better than lenses where it is better corrected also. A lens with good bokeh will make a bad background look at least OK, a lens with bad bokeh won't. I'll take the former over the latter any day, since it allows me to be a bit lazier about what is in an out of focus background. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: Dolls
- Original Message - From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 6:13 AM Subject: Re: Peso: Dolls Strange, I actually read somewhere that new 40/2 wasn't all that good and that it actually seemed to have lost to 40 ltd by Pentax during some sort of comparison shoot. I for one stick with my 43 ltd for a small size optic. I would have liked to do a direct comparison, but I left my 40mm LTD in Boise Idaho last spring. The Voigtlander has the advantage of being a stop faster than the Limited, but has the disadvantage of not being an AF lens. I never did aquire a 43mm, as I didn't think I would ever use one. I suppose this is why I sent the 40mm Voigtlander back, and why I don't especially miss my 40mm LTD. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: another lens specific focus adjustment
Well I'm comparing it to the FA* 80-200mm f2.8 FA* 200mm f2.8. Probably not a far comparison. Cheers, Dave On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 8:15 PM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find the out-of-focus rendering to be just fine. In most cases, bokeh is a function of what's back there rather than how the lens renders it. Yet both bad and good bokeh are most often considered a function of the lens, when in truth they're a function of the brightness and variation of the scene itself. Some examples of DA50-200 bokeh: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4527667 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4604194 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6382714 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6363497 On Mar 6, 2008, at 11:11 PM, David Savage wrote: On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tested the DA 50-200 tonight at 80mm, f4.5. That's one sharp lens. I agree. I don't have it, but I had use of one for a while and tested it systematically against the old SMC F 70-210. The DA 50-200 held its own in that test, being just a little weaker at the long end. Funny thing is, I've seen internal Pentax documents (know ask how) that say the DA 50-200 is weak at the long end, and they've got to do better with the forthcoming 75-300. I'm puzzled by that. That little telezoom strikes me as a very decent performer, and excellent value. It's ok for what it is, but the OoF rendering can be odd to say the least. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: another lens specific focus adjustment
True. And being able to shoot at a wider aperture is a guarantee of better bokeh. I will probably get the 60-250/4 and the 50-135/2.8 at some point. Then the 50-200 will go. Even f4 at 200mm will deliver a considerably nicer background look than the f5.6 of the DA 50-200 at that focal length. Paul -- Original message -- From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well I'm comparing it to the FA* 80-200mm f2.8 FA* 200mm f2.8. Probably not a far comparison. Cheers, Dave On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 8:15 PM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find the out-of-focus rendering to be just fine. In most cases, bokeh is a function of what's back there rather than how the lens renders it. Yet both bad and good bokeh are most often considered a function of the lens, when in truth they're a function of the brightness and variation of the scene itself. Some examples of DA50-200 bokeh: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4527667 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4604194 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6382714 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6363497 On Mar 6, 2008, at 11:11 PM, David Savage wrote: On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tested the DA 50-200 tonight at 80mm, f4.5. That's one sharp lens. I agree. I don't have it, but I had use of one for a while and tested it systematically against the old SMC F 70-210. The DA 50-200 held its own in that test, being just a little weaker at the long end. Funny thing is, I've seen internal Pentax documents (know ask how) that say the DA 50-200 is weak at the long end, and they've got to do better with the forthcoming 75-300. I'm puzzled by that. That little telezoom strikes me as a very decent performer, and excellent value. It's ok for what it is, but the OoF rendering can be odd to say the least. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Any US list members with knowledge abou the used(motor) yacht market?
On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 8:19 PM, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Boats are a bigger money looser than sports cars/racing, photography, women children combined. Reply: Due to the almost worthless dollar, the Grand Banks yachts are almost half price in the US compared to market prices in Norway. Which it will nearly cost to have it shipped to Norway? Just shove it into the Gulf Stream with a GPS tracker on board. Pal can nip out in the Zodiac when it gets there. Assuming of course that a freighter or rouge iceberg don't clean it up first. :-) Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Focus adjustment cautionary note
A couple of people have mentioned using printed pages as test targets for their K10D and K20D focus adjustments. They may be misleading targets. The central focus area is the size of the spot metering circle--MUCH larger than the little red square that lights up. If there is more than one item of detail in that circle, it seems to be random which one the AF locks on to. So, if one is focusing on a page of text, and more than one line is within the spot metering circle, you may get misleading results. Focusing on a ruler, which is certain to have several markings within the circle, is even worse. I strongly recommend using the focus test chart here: http://focustestchart.com/chart.html Note that it has a single bar to focus on, with the calibration scales off to the sides where they won't confuse the AF system. It may save lots of time and aggravation. Rick http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D questions
I got it yesterday. Strange indeed. --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Funny. I sent this about 24 hours ago, and it's just showing up on the list now. That's been happening a lot lately. No big deal, just a curiosity. Paul On Mar 6, 2008, at 7:44 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: On Mar 6, 2008, at 2:08 AM, Tim Bray wrote: 1. How long will it take for my hand to stop telling me the front back wheels are awkwardly placed after 4 years carrying a *ist-D? It took me about two days. 2. Why does it have to be so big? [By the way, the K200D doesn't feel significantly smaller in the hand.] It has a lot of stuff in there. Much of the size is needed for shake reduction. 3. 23M .dng files, yow... maybe .pef would be more tractable? Yes, but the size doesn't bother me. 83 exposures on a 2 gig card is about right for me. I was getting 72 on 1 gig cards with my D, and that was a happy combination. 4. Why, when I tried to auto-white balance an ISO-1600 picture of a toddler in a bathtub using Lightroom's WB wand to click on the white porcelain, did the baby's flesh go all mottled when you look close up? You have to set color temperature manually for now. None of the software has yet been calibrated to work with the K20Ds DNG files. I'm just using the sliders in ACR and adjusting tint and temperature until I get the look I want. But that's what I do most of the time anyway. 5. Why, when I tried to do the same to an ISO-1600 shot of boys playing soccer in a yellow gym, did it snap into violent purple? See previous answer. 6. Am I going to need to buy a Power Mac to process large numbers of photos in Lightroom without making my computer wheeze audibly? Try ACR. It's considerably trimmer. 7. Am I going to have to use the software that came with the camera? You can. I won't. Although Savage says it's pretty good. 8. Why is there a prominent switch for turning the image stabilization off, wouldn't you want it on always? You don't want it on when shooting on a tripod. 9. Why do you want a RAW button, wouldn't most people shoot in RAW all the time or JPEG all the time? Some like to switch from JPEG to RAW. I don't. But I set it up to take a JPEG and a RAW when pressed. That can be useful at times. 10. What do other people put on the User setting? Nothing. 11. What's the smart way to use the Live View option? On a tripod. 12. Why does the shutter noise have to be so loud? To keep you awake:-). Some of the above are actual questions. -T -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Focus adjustment cautionary note
Good point, and thanks for this link. The figure I focus on is fairly isolated, and I do consider other elements in the frame as well, but this target should make things easier. Paul -- Original message -- From: Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] A couple of people have mentioned using printed pages as test targets for their K10D and K20D focus adjustments. They may be misleading targets. The central focus area is the size of the spot metering circle--MUCH larger than the little red square that lights up. If there is more than one item of detail in that circle, it seems to be random which one the AF locks on to. So, if one is focusing on a page of text, and more than one line is within the spot metering circle, you may get misleading results. Focusing on a ruler, which is certain to have several markings within the circle, is even worse. I strongly recommend using the focus test chart here: http://focustestchart.com/chart.html Note that it has a single bar to focus on, with the calibration scales off to the sides where they won't confuse the AF system. It may save lots of time and aggravation. Rick http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: For Starbucks fans
Good thing I've been keeping a record of the sinister figures who frequent the place. The CIA may soon want copies of my photos. Paul -- Original message -- From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Enjoy :) http://www.theonion.com/content/node/28657 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Any US list members with knowledge abou the used(motor) yacht market?
David Savage wrote: On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 8:19 PM, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Boats are a bigger money looser than sports cars/racing, photography, women children combined. Reply: Due to the almost worthless dollar, the Grand Banks yachts are almost half price in the US compared to market prices in Norway. Which it will nearly cost to have it shipped to Norway? Just shove it into the Gulf Stream with a GPS tracker on board. Pal can nip out in the Zodiac when it gets there. Assuming of course that a freighter or rouge iceberg don't clean it up first. A frozen block of tomato juice, perhaps? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Any US list members with knowledge abou the used (motor)yacht market?
Pål, I know this has been your dream for a long time! Good luck in finding the boat of your dreams. Jostein 2008/3/7, Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It is indeed somewhat on topic as the yacht is my new shooting platform for my Pentax gear :-) I will buy it unseen! I was in Holland two years ago finding two boats. By the time I got home, both were sold! It costed me about $ 4000 and no boat! I will however do a marine survey. It cost cost around $1000. In addition, there are Norwegians in Florida who do business helping people buying boats arranging everything. For about 1.3 million Norwegian Kr (this include everything shipping + tax) I get a a boat that is worth in excess of 2 millions in Norway so the economical risk isn't that great. I will use it partly as a live aboard. I work one week and have one week off so I have plenty of time for boating and photography! - Original Message - From: AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 8:38 AM Subject: Re: OT: Any US list members with knowledge abou the used (motor)yacht market? Hi Pål! Long time, no... um... sea? Ok, sorry, I just couldn't resist. Sounds like and old dream nearing realisation there. As a hopeless landlubber I wouldn't know the first thing about the yacht market in any country, but it strikes me as a terrible gamble to make such investments over the internet, unseen. Are you planning to go over there and look for one? Btw, to make this on-topic, you could always claim you wish to take your Pentax for a circumnavigation. :-) Best, Jostein 2008/3/7, Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sorry about the OT message but I'm considering buying a 42ft Grand Banks motor yacht from Florida. Anyoneone who knows the general state of the market and whether asking prices are (very) inflated? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: SMC 2.8-4.0 40-80mm
On Mar 7, 2008, at 0:48, John Francis wrote: On Fri, Mar 07, 2008 at 06:38:59AM +0100, Susan wrote: This old K-lens is not too bad, is it? http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/2316211100/ Comments are welcome. Regards Jens To nitpick - that's usually referred to as an M lens, not a K lens. It's not a terrible performer - I bought one in 1983 as my everyday lens for use with a Super Program - but it's not a stellar performer, either. Is that the lens which has a close-focus (except in the MACRO mode) of about 3.5 feet? I remember it was one of the first two-touch zooms I'd seen. Back in the 80's, it seemed like the one-touch zoom was all the rage. Now I actually prefer separate zoom and focus rings, but I didn't used to! Nice photo though, Susan! -Charles -- Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D focus adjustment
Not the first time... Charles Robinson wrote: On Mar 4, 2008, at 5:48, David J Brooks wrote: K20D will have to wait. I'm more interested in getting a good F2.8 or F4 zoom for the horse ring. I plan to make the K10D the mane camera if a lens comes out soon enough. However if i make money early on my shows, i might have enough for both Mane camera for horse shows? Did you do that on purpose? -Charles -- Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Focus adjustment cautionary note
Rick, Glad I read this post. My ruler based back focus post of yesterday made me wonder about that very possibility. When I switched the ruler angle to a line perpendicular to that initially used, the result was right on.(?) Made me wonder if the lens were cocked. I then went to staggered flat targets and fiddled 'til I was satisfied with the point of focus..at least, with that series of tests. I probably won't be able to leave it alone and can predict I'll be seeking further confirmation. My curse! Jack --- Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A couple of people have mentioned using printed pages as test targets for their K10D and K20D focus adjustments. They may be misleading targets. The central focus area is the size of the spot metering circle--MUCH larger than the little red square that lights up. If there is more than one item of detail in that circle, it seems to be random which one the AF locks on to. So, if one is focusing on a page of text, and more than one line is within the spot metering circle, you may get misleading results. Focusing on a ruler, which is certain to have several markings within the circle, is even worse. I strongly recommend using the focus test chart here: http://focustestchart.com/chart.html Note that it has a single bar to focus on, with the calibration scales off to the sides where they won't confuse the AF system. It may save lots of time and aggravation. Rick http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: See ya 'Liz
On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 2:53 AM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/3/08, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/GESO/GESO_016/index.htm Nice gallery. The bow shot is stunning. Thanks mate. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: See ya 'Liz
On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 1:05 AM, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave, Very nice collection... Cheers Bob. The pano is great, amazing actually! I want to visit! Come on down Bob. I'm sure I could find the time to show you around. :-) How did you get that head on shot? QEII on a leash with it's little helper. The port has a slight dog leg. She had to make a slight turn to starboard to get pointed toward the harbour mouth. I had previsualised this shot so I just positioned myself accordingly. Flag shot is a terrific way to set the place. And the sunset finishes it all off. (And I think all the other boats aren't really clutter. Taken in context they make it more than just a cruise ship at sunset.) Thanks again Bob. It's always nice to come away from a shoot with a few keepers. Later, Dave On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 9:08 AM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/GESO/GESO_016/index.htm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: SMC 2.8-4.0 40-80mm
Thanks, Kieth. I got it because of the nice range for portraits (equal to 60-120mm on 24x36). I got me a flawless F4 45-125mm for that purpose as well, the through-going apertuere should be nice for studio work. It's not focused very easily, though. Regards Jens -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af keith_w Sendt: 7. marts 2008 14:00 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: SMC 2.8-4.0 40-80mm Susan wrote: This old K-lens is not too bad, is it? http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/2316211100/ Comments are welcome. Regards Jens Not at all! I further enlarged the Flicker image to twice as wide as my 21 screen, and it held together well. The color is great! Very nice indeed. I have a little SMC Pentax-A 35-70mm f/4.0 that does an excellent job for me. Similar to yours, I'd believe, and a nice walking around range. keith whaley -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.6/1317 - Release Date: 07-03-2008 08:15 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
SV: SMC 2.8-4.0 40-80mm
Yes, your right John, there's IS an M on it. I didn't notice. Regards Jens -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af John Francis Sendt: 7. marts 2008 07:48 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: SMC 2.8-4.0 40-80mm On Fri, Mar 07, 2008 at 06:38:59AM +0100, Susan wrote: This old K-lens is not too bad, is it? http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/2316211100/ Comments are welcome. Regards Jens To nitpick - that's usually referred to as an M lens, not a K lens. It's not a terrible performer - I bought one in 1983 as my everyday lens for use with a Super Program - but it's not a stellar performer, either. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.6/1317 - Release Date: 07-03-2008 08:15 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: See ya 'Liz
On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 12:12 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good stuff. Love the head-on bow shot. Very powerful. Great rendering. The flag pic is cool too. And, as usual, your panorama is excellent. Thanks Paul In truth, I think last night's PESO would be my number four, but it is a very nice addition to the series. #4 was a re-rendering of my previous PESO ;-) Cheers, Dave -- Original message -- From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/GESO/GESO_016/index.htm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: For Starbucks fans
Better check the images. They may have done a ghostly fade out by this time. 8-() Jack --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good thing I've been keeping a record of the sinister figures who frequent the place. The CIA may soon want copies of my photos. Paul -- Original message -- From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Enjoy :) http://www.theonion.com/content/node/28657 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: See ya 'Liz
G'day Boris, I had the DA* 16-50mm mounted as she steamed past I still couldn't fit her all in from waterline to funnel :-) Cheers, Dave On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 9:10 PM, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We saw the Old Lady back in 2004 in Norway and it was truly majestic. i remember telling to my wife that having left 24 mm at home I cannot fit her all in with 35 mm lens. It was back when 24 mm was still 24 mm without any equivalency. Good old film days and good old cruise mega-ships ;-). Boris David Savage wrote: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/GESO/GESO_016/index.htm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D questions
From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/03/07 Fri PM 12:30:36 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: K20D questions Funny. I sent this about 24 hours ago, and it's just showing up on the list now. That's been happening a lot lately. No big deal, just a curiosity. Paul I seem to be getting repeats. Anything from a couple of hours to acouple of days apart and, bizarrely, with either the old or a new date stamp. Not so much a curiosity as a nuisance, although I suspect it is not the list mailserver. On Mar 6, 2008, at 7:44 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: On Mar 6, 2008, at 2:08 AM, Tim Bray wrote: 1. How long will it take for my hand to stop telling me the front back wheels are awkwardly placed after 4 years carrying a *ist-D? It took me about two days. 2. Why does it have to be so big? [By the way, the K200D doesn't feel significantly smaller in the hand.] It has a lot of stuff in there. Much of the size is needed for shake reduction. 3. 23M .dng files, yow... maybe .pef would be more tractable? Yes, but the size doesn't bother me. 83 exposures on a 2 gig card is about right for me. I was getting 72 on 1 gig cards with my D, and that was a happy combination. 4. Why, when I tried to auto-white balance an ISO-1600 picture of a toddler in a bathtub using Lightroom's WB wand to click on the white porcelain, did the baby's flesh go all mottled when you look close up? You have to set color temperature manually for now. None of the software has yet been calibrated to work with the K20Ds DNG files. I'm just using the sliders in ACR and adjusting tint and temperature until I get the look I want. But that's what I do most of the time anyway. 5. Why, when I tried to do the same to an ISO-1600 shot of boys playing soccer in a yellow gym, did it snap into violent purple? See previous answer. 6. Am I going to need to buy a Power Mac to process large numbers of photos in Lightroom without making my computer wheeze audibly? Try ACR. It's considerably trimmer. 7. Am I going to have to use the software that came with the camera? You can. I won't. Although Savage says it's pretty good. 8. Why is there a prominent switch for turning the image stabilization off, wouldn't you want it on always? You don't want it on when shooting on a tripod. 9. Why do you want a RAW button, wouldn't most people shoot in RAW all the time or JPEG all the time? Some like to switch from JPEG to RAW. I don't. But I set it up to take a JPEG and a RAW when pressed. That can be useful at times. 10. What do other people put on the User setting? Nothing. 11. What's the smart way to use the Live View option? On a tripod. 12. Why does the shutter noise have to be so loud? To keep you awake:-). Some of the above are actual questions. -T -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Any US list members with knowledge abou the used (motor) yacht market?
Pål Jensen wrote: Sorry about the OT message but I'm considering buying a 42ft Grand Banks motor yacht from Florida. Anyoneone who knows the general state of the market and whether asking prices are (very) inflated? Motor boats are for sissies. Real Men(tm) sail! :-) -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Finally back (webhost chronicles)
On Mar 5, 2008, at 5:47 PM, David Mann wrote: John Celio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: About a week ago I started the process of moving my site to my new host, GoDaddy.com. A couple weeks before this, my boss had me set up an account for the business website with GoDaddy, and once I figured out how to navigate GoDaddy's labarynthine websites, I found they offer a lot of good services. As long as you avoid the hard sells, it's a good value. Yes, GoDaddy are pretty big on the upsell. I get emails from them every other day with a new discount offer. Yeah I know you can opt-out... but I did actually make an order recently when a 20%-off coupon came in just as I was looking into virtual dedicated servers for a bigger project. I've had gdgphoto.com hosted with GoDaddy since I created it almost two years ago. Zero problems, good service, no complaints. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Re: Peso Wings
From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/03/07 Fri PM 12:01:47 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Peso Wings What is this thing, for crying out loud??? Boris Part of one of these. I would call it a blade, rather than a wing. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_turbine David J Brooks wrote: One more from this past trip. http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v408/divad_b/NTS%20PHOTOS/?action=viewcurrent=_MOR5512.jpg Equipment Express hauls the wind tower wings. They had a load parked beside us in Wyoming Ontario. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I'm embarrassed to be a product of the 70s
William Robb wrote: http://listoftheday.blogspot.com/2007/09/great-olan-mills-photos.html This is too funny for words. William Robb http://bp3.blogger.com/_bkFIPLIOGL8/Rua47R0G3YI/DDo/325jLPJiFw4/s1600-h/doobiebro.jpg This photo isn't discolored. The 70s really were that yellow. The hull of my 1973 Oday Javelin was that color. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Any US list members with knowledge abou the used (motor) yacht market?
On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 12:30 AM, Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pål Jensen wrote: Sorry about the OT message but I'm considering buying a 42ft Grand Banks motor yacht from Florida. Anyoneone who knows the general state of the market and whether asking prices are (very) inflated? Motor boats are for sissies. Real Men(tm) sail! :-) And we all know what real sailor boys get up to... Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Any US list members with knowledge abou the used(motor) yacht market?
A rouge iceberg? I can assure you that there are none of _those_ in _our_ oceans. From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/03/07 Fri PM 02:11:36 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: Any US list members with knowledge abou the used(motor) yacht market? On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 8:19 PM, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Boats are a bigger money looser than sports cars/racing, photography, women children combined. Reply: Due to the almost worthless dollar, the Grand Banks yachts are almost half price in the US compared to market prices in Norway. Which it will nearly cost to have it shipped to Norway? Just shove it into the Gulf Stream with a GPS tracker on board. Pal can nip out in the Zodiac when it gets there. Assuming of course that a freighter or rouge iceberg don't clean it up first. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: SMC 2.8-4.0 40-80mm
Very nice but the yellow seems somewhat subdued. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Susan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: SMC 2.8-4.0 40-80mm This old K-lens is not too bad, is it? http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/2316211100/ Comments are welcome. Regards Jens -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Any US list members with knowledge abou the used(motor) yachtmarket?
Assuming of course that a freighter or rouge iceberg don't clean it up first. I assume it would be a rogue rouge iceberg. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Any US list members with knowledge abou the used(motor) yachtmarket? On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 8:19 PM, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Boats are a bigger money looser than sports cars/racing, photography, women children combined. Reply: Due to the almost worthless dollar, the Grand Banks yachts are almost half price in the US compared to market prices in Norway. Which it will nearly cost to have it shipped to Norway? Just shove it into the Gulf Stream with a GPS tracker on board. Pal can nip out in the Zodiac when it gets there. Assuming of course that a freighter or rouge iceberg don't clean it up first. :-) Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: SMCP A 50/1.2
Well, it is because you're a hmmm child of 70's??? Rest assured, the score will be even, 'cause the spice must flow. ;-) Boris William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Boris Liberman Subject: WTB: SMCP A 50/1.2 Hi! If anyone has the subject that they might be willing to sell to me, please turn to me off-list. I don't have one for sale, but my cruel mean streak just wanted me to tell you: I have one and you don't HaHa HaHa I have one and you don't Ha HaHa Haha I'm such an ass. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Any US list members with knowledge abou the used(motor) yachtmarket?
Yes, that's what I meant to type.. Cheers, Dave On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 12:55 AM, Ken Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Assuming of course that a freighter or rouge iceberg don't clean it up first. I assume it would be a rogue rouge iceberg. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: Dolls
- Original Message - From: Boris Liberman Subject: Re: Peso: Dolls Shall I perform I have one (43 ltd) and you don't dance? ;-) Go for it. It's not like as if I wouldn't have one if I wantedg It turns out I can be pretty annoying either... I can be a complete asshole, you've got a long way to go to catch up to that. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: Dolls
Shall I perform I have one (43 ltd) and you don't dance? ;-) It turns out I can be pretty annoying either... Boris William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 6:13 AM Subject: Re: Peso: Dolls Strange, I actually read somewhere that new 40/2 wasn't all that good and that it actually seemed to have lost to 40 ltd by Pentax during some sort of comparison shoot. I for one stick with my 43 ltd for a small size optic. I would have liked to do a direct comparison, but I left my 40mm LTD in Boise Idaho last spring. The Voigtlander has the advantage of being a stop faster than the Limited, but has the disadvantage of not being an AF lens. I never did aquire a 43mm, as I didn't think I would ever use one. I suppose this is why I sent the 40mm Voigtlander back, and why I don't especially miss my 40mm LTD. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: Dolls
On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 1:13 AM, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Boris Liberman Subject: Re: Peso: Dolls Shall I perform I have one (43 ltd) and you don't dance? ;-) Go for it. It's not like as if I wouldn't have one if I wantedg It turns out I can be pretty annoying either... I can be a complete asshole, you've got a long way to go to catch up to that. I don't think Boris wants to catch up with your asshole... ...ness. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: Dolls
Mark Roberts wrote: (That's not a denial of Bill's statement, it's a pre-emptive no to all the people who are about to respond with a Mark! request...) Mark! :P -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: April PUG submission form is up
Jens, You've got to get your own email address. I keep on wondering who this Susan is who is sending us emails. Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 1:27 PM, Susan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had no trouble at all submitting my april portrait :-) Regards Jens -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Steve Desjardins Sendt: 6. marts 2008 20:15 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: April PUG submission form is up For some reason, I kept getting the fill in all required fields message. Every line had something in it. What could be wrong? Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/6/2008 12:28 PM You can submit photos for the April PUG, Portrait, at http://pdmlpug.org/?p=26 I've also update the Previous Galleries directory. Follow the links at the bottom of the PUG or go here: http://pug.komkon.org/general/pastgalleries.html Have a nice day! -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. !SIG:47d02dd0101541529716044! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.6/1315 - Release Date: 06-03-2008 09:07 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: Dolls
On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 1:33 AM, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: (That's not a denial of Bill's statement, it's a pre-emptive no to all the people who are about to respond with a Mark! request...) Mark! kraM! Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: Dolls
William Robb wrote: I can be a complete asshole, you've got a long way to go to catch up to that. No. (That's not a denial of Bill's statement, it's a pre-emptive no to all the people who are about to respond with a Mark! request...) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: April PUG submission form is up
I was just about to ask how the gender reassignment surgery went... Cheers, Dave On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 1:43 AM, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jens, You've got to get your own email address. I keep on wondering who this Susan is who is sending us emails. Regards, Bob S. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: Dolls
William Robb wrote: I can be a complete asshole, you've got a long way to go to catch up to that. No, sir! I didn't see you playing with your dolls again! -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: Dolls
- Original Message - From: Mark Roberts Subject: Re: Peso: Dolls No. (That's not a denial of Bill's statement, it's a pre-emptive no to all the people who are about to respond with a Mark! request...) Thank you, I think. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: Dolls
- Original Message - From: Scott Loveless Subject: Re: Peso: Dolls No, sir! I didn't see you playing with your dolls again! You didn't see me playing with your dolls either, did you... William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Any US list members with knowledge abou the used(motor) yachtmarket?
I suppose it could be on fire... Ken Waller wrote: Assuming of course that a freighter or rouge iceberg don't clean it up first. I assume it would be a rogue rouge iceberg. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Any US list members with knowledge abou the used(motor) yachtmarket? On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 8:19 PM, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Boats are a bigger money looser than sports cars/racing, photography, women children combined. Reply: Due to the almost worthless dollar, the Grand Banks yachts are almost half price in the US compared to market prices in Norway. Which it will nearly cost to have it shipped to Norway? Just shove it into the Gulf Stream with a GPS tracker on board. Pal can nip out in the Zodiac when it gets there. Assuming of course that a freighter or rouge iceberg don't clean it up first. :-) Cheers, Dave -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: Dolls
Mark Roberts wrote: William Robb wrote: I can be a complete asshole, you've got a long way to go to catch up to that. No. (That's not a denial of Bill's statement, it's a pre-emptive no to all the people who are about to respond with a Mark! request...) That's no fun... -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K10D v K20D
On Fri, Mar 07, 2008 at 11:25:16AM +, mike wilson wrote: From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/03/07 Fri AM 04:07:13 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: K10D v K20D Generally true, but as the K20D is emerging, I'll be scanning some evaluations. Lister's comments will be read with interest. Smoke me a .dng, I'll be back for breakfast. That wasn't Lister's comment, goalpost-head. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Any US list members with knowledge abou the used (motor) yacht market?
David Savage wrote: On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 12:30 AM, Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pål Jensen wrote: Sorry about the OT message but I'm considering buying a 42ft Grand Banks motor yacht from Florida. Anyoneone who knows the general state of the market and whether asking prices are (very) inflated? Motor boats are for sissies. Real Men(tm) sail! :-) And we all know what real sailor boys get up to... Cheers, Dave Ah yes the finest traditions of the British Navy, Rum, lice, sodomy and the lash... Attributed to Winston Churchill. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Peekaboo, I See You
One of the oddities of my D300 is that I shoot much more at low ISO's than I ever did with my older bodies. I suspect some of this has to do with the really nifty Auto ISO on the Nikon (You set max ISO and the minimum shutter speed you want it do maintain, set the camera to the minimum ISO you want and let it do the thinking, works VERY well, better than the K10D's already good Auto ISO). I've probably taken more ISO 200 shots on the D300 than I did on my K10D *istDS combined. I do need to try out ISO 100 on it though. -Adam On 3/7/08, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great shot. Though after having seen a number of pictures from K20D I tend to think that ISO 100 is a thing of a past. Only older cameras and their respective users would take a shot at such low ISO ;-). No offense, no pun, just a mild irony. Boris David Savage wrote: G'day Trend Setters, Was out at a cafe yesterday, had a (new) camera, played a silly game with a little kid, took a picture thought I'd share (~140kb) http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/PESO/peso_042.htm As always any all comments welcome Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Boris - PESO/PAW - Week 06 through 08
Hi! I am in permanent catching up mode... http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2008/03/paw-2008-week-06.html http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2008/03/paw-2008-week-07.html http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2008/03/paw-2008-week-08.html Each week is different motif though... Have your say! Brutal and honest as usual. Thanks! Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso Dog day afternoon
Hey - I've got one of those dog-in-a-snowstorm pics too http://bp0.blogger.com/_UTmmj-uEOZ4/R87ojvRGECI/AFg/oDG1rXPIOFo/s1600-h/1D9759_frame.jpg Wendy On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 7:48 AM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7024466 Had a pretty decent snow storm roll through Tuesday night and most of the day Wednesday. Took some snow shots whilst testing out the K10D and DA 50 for focus. Not a good one to test focus, but i like this one. K10D DA 50 F2.8 WB adjusted in LR Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso Dog day afternoon
Nice! A splash of color from the stop sign, muted colors otherwise, and the unaccompanied dog to emphasize the quiet. Rick --- David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7024466 Had a pretty decent snow storm roll through Tuesday night and most of the day Wednesday. Took some snow shots whilst testing out the K10D and DA 50 for focus. Not a good one to test focus, but i like this one. K10D DA 50 F2.8 WB adjusted in LR Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2008 - 18 - GDG
I don't think this is as good as the others in your cafe collection, Godfrey. One can't see what they are looking at, the water bottle and the hand of the more distant woman are distracting, and there's that woman in blue who seems to be bidding in an auction in the background. Too much irrelevant stuff in the frame. Rick --- Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One from the archives ... this was taken in October 2006 while I was at the Tate Modern in London. http://homepage.mac.com/godders/18-sharing.jpg Sharing - This Cafe Life 2008 Pentax *ist DS + DA21mm f/3.2 Limited ISO 800 @ f/3.2 @ 1/500 sec Comments and critique always appreciated. enjoy Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Music
thanks, Boris. Doug-who-would-like-to-shoot-more-live-music Boris Liberman wrote: Doug, thanks for the lesson. Great stuff! Boris-who-might-be-shooting-live-music-in-the-future Doug Brewer wrote: a few shots of stuff you don't usually see from me: http://photos.drivingtheflies.com/index.php?page=album.7 enjoy -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: See ya 'Liz
Great stuff. G On Mar 6, 2008, at 7:08 AM, David Savage wrote: G'day All, I've put together a small 4 image gallery to put last nights PESO into a bit more context (~490kb page) http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/GESO/GESO_016/index.htm Cheers, Dave P.S The Aussies on list might recognise the blue yellow vessel from the news. That's the Customs Fisheries vessel that shadowed the Japanese whaling fleet. P.P.S. Brian, that shot was out 0.38 degrees ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: ~ whiskers ~
The cutest little critter ever: http://www.islandlight.ca/showphoto.php?image_id=551s=pentaxdiscuss Cheers, Francis -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: ~ whiskers ~
Sure is cute, you want to pet it, it wants to tear your throat out. (Lucky for you it's too small). Francis wrote: The cutest little critter ever: http://www.islandlight.ca/showphoto.php?image_id=551s=pentaxdiscuss Cheers, Francis -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Just for comparison - The Grabber
PJ Alling was interested in seeing some Nikon high ISO shots. This one's somewhere over 3200 (IIRC it was at 6400) unfortunately Flickr won't display EXIF info it doesn't understand and the D300 reports ISO's over 3200 as Hi 0.3, 0.5, 0.7 or 1.0 rather than an ISO number. http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2015/2315901589_7490cbd8bf_o.jpg It's a bit large. And semi-OT, the grabber is a K1000 shooter, she's actually holding onto the guy's Nikon D80 so he doesn't hide his face with it. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax LX, auto/TTL flash and slow speeds
Vic Mortelmans wrote: Hi, Using my AF280T on my LX, I notice that there's no way to combine auto/TTL functions with slow speeds. The camera always switches to the flash sync speed, and I don't find a way to override this. I can use my Spotmatic or ES combined with the same flash in auto mode to get slow speeds with flash, but it's a pity I cannot do so with the advanced metering (especially in low light) of my LX. I guess I could use any non-Pentax automatic flash to do the same on the LX, in a way 'fooling' the LX in thinking there's no flash on. But then there's the question of compatibility: the LX should at least properly sync with the flash! Any advices on what type of flash I could be looking for (preferrably a cheapish model on the second hand market)? Goeten, Vic PS. my wife will by buying a Canon DSLR shortly (don't know which model yet) --- maybe an opportunity to find a Canon flash that would both work on the DSLR and on the LX ? I know this was originally sent days if not weeks ago, but I JUST received it in my mailbox on 3/7/2008 at 15:00. The list is certainly wonky... -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: ~ whiskers ~
I don't know..I understand they can jump pretty good! Jack PS: Maybe I need to dig out my Huey again, but it looks awfully dark on my monitor today.(?) --- P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure is cute, you want to pet it, it wants to tear your throat out. (Lucky for you it's too small). Francis wrote: The cutest little critter ever: http://www.islandlight.ca/showphoto.php?image_id=551s=pentaxdiscuss Cheers, Francis -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: ~ whiskers ~
It's dark on mine, too, in the shadows. Maybe a little fiddling with levels or curves to lighten the shadows a bit...? Nice pic, though! Rick --- Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know..I understand they can jump pretty good! Jack PS: Maybe I need to dig out my Huey again, but it looks awfully dark on my monitor today.(?) --- P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure is cute, you want to pet it, it wants to tear your throat out. (Lucky for you it's too small). Francis wrote: The cutest little critter ever: http://www.islandlight.ca/showphoto.php?image_id=551s=pentaxdiscuss Cheers, Francis -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso Wings
Understood! Today I produced a word centering in order to describe the relative position of my jaws when closed and by doing so I seriously impressed my dentist, who happens to be from South Africa... Go figure... Boris mike wilson wrote: Part of one of these. I would call it a blade, rather than a wing. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_turbine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Just for comparison - The Grabber
Nice shot. I'd say the noise level is comparable to the K20. Lovely bokeh here. Paul -- Original message -- From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] PJ Alling was interested in seeing some Nikon high ISO shots. This one's somewhere over 3200 (IIRC it was at 6400) unfortunately Flickr won't display EXIF info it doesn't understand and the D300 reports ISO's over 3200 as Hi 0.3, 0.5, 0.7 or 1.0 rather than an ISO number. http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2015/2315901589_7490cbd8bf_o.jpg It's a bit large. And semi-OT, the grabber is a K1000 shooter, she's actually holding onto the guy's Nikon D80 so he doesn't hide his face with it. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2008 - 18 bw - GDG
I've gotten quite a few comments on this photo, thank you. A couple of people suggested they'd prefer a monochrome rendering. I'd started one and was unhappy with it, but I went back and did some more work. Now I'm happy with it. I think it shapes the viewer's attention differently ... I'll be interested to hear any further comments. :-) http://homepage.mac.com/godders/18-sharing-bw.jpg Sharing - This Cafe Life 2008 Pentax *ist DS + DA21mm f/3.2 Limited ISO 800 @ f/3.2 @ 1/500 sec Comments and critique always appreciated. enjoy Godfrey (original color rendering: http://homepage.mac.com/godders/18- sharing.jpg) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso Dog day afternoon
Nice. Looks like my kind of dog. I had a malamute that would rather stay out on his pen during a snow storm rather than be inside. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: wendy beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Peso Dog day afternoon Hey - I've got one of those dog-in-a-snowstorm pics too http://bp0.blogger.com/_UTmmj-uEOZ4/R87ojvRGECI/AFg/oDG1rXPIOFo/s1600-h/1D9759_frame.jpg Wendy On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 7:48 AM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7024466 Had a pretty decent snow storm roll through Tuesday night and most of the day Wednesday. Took some snow shots whilst testing out the K10D and DA 50 for focus. Not a good one to test focus, but i like this one. K10D DA 50 F2.8 WB adjusted in LR Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ivan
A really nice portrait. Still a great looking dog. Any idea on its weight? Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: wendy beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO: Ivan Just to redress the balance http://www.pbase.com/image/93750466 K10D, Sigma 180/3.5 Wendy -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: ~ whiskers ~
It's dark on mine, too, in the shadows. Same here. A little levels shadow adj made a big difference. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PESO: ~ whiskers ~ It's dark on mine, too, in the shadows. Maybe a little fiddling with levels or curves to lighten the shadows a bit...? Nice pic, though! Rick --- Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know..I understand they can jump pretty good! Jack PS: Maybe I need to dig out my Huey again, but it looks awfully dark on my monitor today.(?) --- P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure is cute, you want to pet it, it wants to tear your throat out. (Lucky for you it's too small). Francis wrote: The cutest little critter ever: http://www.islandlight.ca/showphoto.php?image_id=551s=pentaxdiscuss Cheers, Francis -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso Dog day afternoon
Good shot. He seems to be enjoying the snow. I'm glad someone did. Paul -- Original message -- From: Ken Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nice. Looks like my kind of dog. I had a malamute that would rather stay out on his pen during a snow storm rather than be inside. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: wendy beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Peso Dog day afternoon Hey - I've got one of those dog-in-a-snowstorm pics too http://bp0.blogger.com/_UTmmj-uEOZ4/R87ojvRGECI/AFg/oDG1rXPIOFo/s1600-h /1D9759_frame.jpg Wendy On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 7:48 AM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7024466 Had a pretty decent snow storm roll through Tuesday night and most of the day Wednesday. Took some snow shots whilst testing out the K10D and DA 50 for focus. Not a good one to test focus, but i like this one. K10D DA 50 F2.8 WB adjusted in LR Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: ~ whiskers ~
Jack Davis wrote: I don't know..I understand they can jump pretty good! Jack PS: Maybe I need to dig out my Huey again, but it looks awfully dark on my monitor today.(?) Thanks you, Jack. Me too! Very dark... keith whaley -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Just for comparison - The Grabber
Adam Maas wrote: PJ Alling was interested in seeing some Nikon high ISO shots. This one's somewhere over 3200 (IIRC it was at 6400) unfortunately Flickr won't display EXIF info it doesn't understand and the D300 reports ISO's over 3200 as Hi 0.3, 0.5, 0.7 or 1.0 rather than an ISO number. http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2015/2315901589_7490cbd8bf_o.jpg It's a bit large. And semi-OT, the grabber is a K1000 shooter, she's actually holding onto the guy's Nikon D80 so he doesn't hide his face with it. Oh, I really LIKE this one! Typical pub scene, typical residents, typical fun atmosphere. I'd happily join them to get in on it, if I could... *Great* shot, for several reasons. The expressions not the least of it! One could build a story out of them... Each participant was in a different place right then, weren't they... g Super! keith whaley -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Quickie Mac screen calibration software which seems to work
I found an application this morning which has truly helped me. I'd been going batty since switching from my old G4 Powerbook to a relatively-cheap 13 Macbook (not the pro model). The screen, while I can eventually get over the glossiness, just had a washed-out pale look to it, even when the brightness was dimmed down. The curves were all wrong. I hated it. No amount of tipping the screen back and forth or running Apple's calibration tool could help. I was beginning to be really bummed out Along comes this simple shareware: SuperCal. It has a wizard which walks you through about 12 steps to determine the proper response curve for your screen. I don't know if this is any way to MATCH colors for printing and whatnot, but I have to say - it's managed to give me a screen I am happy to use now. It's almost as good as what I had on the Powerbook (although the Macbook screen still has a huge variance in how it looks if you look at it from overhead vs. underneath such as when the screen is tipped way back). Highly recommended for those of you using a Mac who wonder if they have it set anywhere near correctly. Works for me! http://www.bergdesign.com/supercal/ -Charles -- Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: Dolls
On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 2:15 AM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: William Robb wrote: I can be a complete asshole, you've got a long way to go to catch up to that. No. (That's not a denial of Bill's statement, it's a pre-emptive no to all the people who are about to respond with a Mark! request...) That's no fun... I think it's because Bill is over quote quota... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.