Re: PESO: Oak Leaves

2008-05-20 Thread Tim Bray
That's my favorite PESO of the last few days.  Thank you.  -T

On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 6:38 PM, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Work has been brutal lately, and there hasn't been
 much time for photography.  This was taken during an
 evening walk during a recent visit to Rochester, NY,
 to pick up our son from college:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7283594

 K10D, DA 50-200, f/5.6 @ 1/250, ISO 400, RAW via LR.

 Rick




 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
 the directions.


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Now bikini (was: K20D dynamic range expansion 200% clouds)

2008-05-20 Thread Dario Bonazza
William Robb wrote:

 - Original Message - 
 From: Dario Bonazza
 Subject: Now bikini (was: K20D dynamic range expansion 200% clouds)
 
 
 
 
 Hey Bill, would you like to see more... err... bottom?
 
 As long as it's her's, not your's

Don't worry, that's the nice one:
www.dariobonazza.com/public/Mosetti2.jpg

Dario

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


RE: PESO - Pelicans' Pause

2008-05-20 Thread Anthony Farr
Thanks Bob.  Taronga Zoo is quite good at providing habitat for water birds.
It's easy to forget that these birds are free to come and go as they please,
they tolerate human proximity so much more than wild birds even though
they are in fact wild birds.  Once I had seen the potential shot with two
birds roosted and one giving itself its last preening of the day, it was a
simple matter of waiting for the inevitable lineup to form with no danger of
them spooking and taking flight.  I agree about the oars which have been
art-directed into a permanently fixed position, but it is a created display
and not a real coastline as it seems.

Regards,
Anthony Farr

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Bob Sullivan
 Sent: Tuesday, 20 May 2008 1:57 AM
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Subject: Re: PESO - Pelicans' Pause
 
 Anthony,
 Marvelous catch.  Where Pelicans sleep at night.
 I like the repeated pattern made by the 3 birds.
 The smooth boat bottom they are on makes for an echo of the bird's curves.
 I wish the pole/conduit wasn't there, but this is photography not
painting.
 Regards,  Bob S.
 


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


RE: PESO - Pelicans' Pause

2008-05-20 Thread Anthony Farr
Thanks Christine.  It was an as found shot so I was fortunate to find
things so well organized ;-)

Regards,
Anthony Farr

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Christine Aguila
 Sent: Tuesday, 20 May 2008 2:15 AM
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Subject: Re: PESO - Pelicans' Pause
 
 Anthony:  I love it!  Great subject, and the bottom of the boat provides a
 really nice background to the birds,  the blue water and hint of gold in
 the upper left hand corner provide a splash of--well, splash of fun color.
 Cheers, Christine
 
 


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


OT - the dangers of seeing the world through a viewfinder

2008-05-20 Thread Anthony Farr
Gotta look around from time to time, or something like this could happen:

http://tinyurl.com/6e6ts5

or

http://www.smh.com.au/news/sport/photographer-speared-by-javelin/2008/05/20/
1211182745559.html?sssdmh=dm16.315900

regards,
Anthony Farr


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


smc PENTAX-FA 50mm F1.4 last shots with K100D Super

2008-05-20 Thread Roman Melihhov
http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20080516134346
^^^ I'd lusted after this lense for over a year but something else 
always came in. Now, knowing K20D CMOS sensor reads diagonal light of FA 
lenses I'd decided to buy this 1.4 fast prime and here goes few samples, 
probably just emphasizing on its beautiful bokeh. FA 50mm is kinda soft 
full open, with few pixel wide soft cast but it's gone by f/2.0 and 
lense is sharpest at f/5.6 - 8.0. Light is very well controlled and 
level of aberrations is insignificant. Now I found my new favorite 
lense. Shame it took ages to finally find it. Perhaps expectancy of FF 
pentax body in December 2008 / January 2009 had contributed a bit to my 
decision to purchase full frame lense here.

Your comments are welcome, as always.

Roman.


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: smc PENTAX-FA 50mm F1.4 last shots with K100D Super

2008-05-20 Thread timber
What surprises me is the line:
price of the lense (most expensive standard prime in its class, besides
Zeiss of course)

Are we talking about the Pentax SMC FA 50mm f1.4? That's the cheapest in
it's class (Nikon's being close).
FYI the prices (in GBP... source: Ebay.co.uk):
Canon 50mm f1.4 - ~165 pounds
Nikon 50mm f1.4 - ~135 pounds
Pentax 50mm f1.4 - ~130 pounds
Canon 50mm f1.8 - ~60 pounds
Nikon 50mm f1.8 - ~50 pounds

The only thing Pentax is 'missing' is an 50mm f1.8 lens... but the price
of the f1.4/50mm is fairly low IMHO. And I had the Canon f1.8 50mm in my
hands... cheap and plastic. I really disliked that lens. A friend of mine
sold his because it was extremely soft at f1.8, yet I heard no real
complains about the FA f1.4/50mm.

The two reason I am not considering to buy this lens is: my Porst
55mm/f1.2 MF lens and my dream to get my hands on an FA 77mm f1.8 :D The
FA77's Bokeh... is a dreeeaaam :D

.t

 http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20080516134346
 ^^^ I'd lusted after this lense for over a year but something else
 always came in. Now, knowing K20D CMOS sensor reads diagonal light of FA
 lenses I'd decided to buy this 1.4 fast prime and here goes few samples,
 probably just emphasizing on its beautiful bokeh. FA 50mm is kinda soft
 full open, with few pixel wide soft cast but it's gone by f/2.0 and
 lense is sharpest at f/5.6 - 8.0. Light is very well controlled and
 level of aberrations is insignificant. Now I found my new favorite
 lense. Shame it took ages to finally find it. Perhaps expectancy of FF
 pentax body in December 2008 / January 2009 had contributed a bit to my
 decision to purchase full frame lense here.

 Your comments are welcome, as always.

 Roman.


 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and
 follow the directions.




-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: smc PENTAX-FA 50mm F1.4 last shots with K100D Super

2008-05-20 Thread Cotty
On 20/5/08, Roman Melihhov, discombobulated, unleashed:

Perhaps expectancy of FF 
pentax body in December 2008 / January 2009 had contributed a bit to my 
decision to purchase full frame lense here.

Or perhaps you're just dreaming..

http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/spare2.html



-- 


Cheers,
  Cotty


___/\__
||   (O)  | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
_



-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


20 Pentax lenses tested on K20D by Chasseur D'images

2008-05-20 Thread Thibouille
Anyone owning a K20D should buy this magazine IMO.

Lots of optics tested here: from FA* 27-70/2.8, FA*85/1.4 to all
Limiteds, DA*, the new DA17-70 SDM etc...

Most lenses are quite good and a couple numbers simply excellent !!

Talking about recent lenses:

- DA 17-70 SDM: it is good, vingettes a lot at 17 but it very nice
upgrade over the kit lens. They say there's no focus touch up (!! to
be confirmed) but there's indeed weather sealing. They do not say if
it is SDM-only but I think so.

- DA*200/2.8: excellent !!

- DA*300/4: excellent !!

- DA35/2.8 macro: excellent !

DA* 50-135 and DA* 16-50/2.8: centering defects but otherwise very good.

A lot more lenses tested, you should really buy this magazine.
More when I can buy one.

-- 
Thibault Massart aka Thibouille
--
Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ...
Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB
Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007)

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: OT - the dangers of seeing the world through a viewfinder

2008-05-20 Thread Cory Waters
Dude!  A little heads-up next time would be nice.  I was eating breakfast...

CW
scarred for life.  Or maybe not.


Anthony Farr wrote:
 Gotta look around from time to time, or something like this could happen:

 http://tinyurl.com/6e6ts5

 or

 http://www.smh.com.au/news/sport/photographer-speared-by-javelin/2008/05/20/
 1211182745559.html?sssdmh=dm16.315900

 regards,
 Anthony Farr


   
 


 No virus found in this incoming message.
 Checked by AVG. 
 Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.23.21/1455 - Release Date: 5/19/2008 
 5:04 PM
   


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: PESO: Oak Leaves

2008-05-20 Thread David J Brooks
Good lighting to this one. It would make a good fall colour shot, later.

Dave

On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Work has been brutal lately, and there hasn't been
 much time for photography.  This was taken during an
 evening walk during a recent visit to Rochester, NY,
 to pick up our son from college:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7283594

 K10D, DA 50-200, f/5.6 @ 1/250, ISO 400, RAW via LR.

 Rick




 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
 the directions.




-- 
Equine Photography
www.caughtinmotion.com
http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/
Ontario Canada

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Peso My attempt at lilac shot

2008-05-20 Thread David J Brooks
Thanks Paul.

It was here when i bought the place in 1983. Age is unknown.

Dave

On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I like it. It's easy to see that your bush is not the same variety as
 mine.
 Paul
 On May 19, 2008, at 4:07 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

 Its still very windy, but a little persistance and i got this one.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7282263

 K10D, DA 50 f2.8, Slik 700 pro tripod, minor LR crop and exposure
 adjust

 Dave

 --
 Equine Photography
 www.caughtinmotion.com
 http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/
 Ontario Canada

 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above
 and follow the directions.


 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
 the directions.




-- 
Equine Photography
www.caughtinmotion.com
http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/
Ontario Canada

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: PESO: Oak Leaves

2008-05-20 Thread John Whittingham
Hi Rick

I love the light, composition is really nice too.

Regards,

John

On Mon, 19 May 2008 18:38:22 -0700 (PDT), Rick Womer wrote
 Work has been brutal lately, and there hasn't been
 much time for photography.  This was taken during an
 evening walk during a recent visit to Rochester, NY,
 to pick up our son from college:
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7283594
 
 K10D, DA 50-200, f/5.6 @ 1/250, ISO 400, RAW via LR.
 
 Rick
 
 -- 
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above 
 and follow the directions.





The information transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is 
addressed and may contain
confidential and/or privileged material. If you have received an email in error 
please notify Carmel College
on [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete all copies of it from your systems.

Although Carmel College scans incoming and outgoing emails and email 
attachments for viruses we cannot
guarantee a communication to be free of all viruses nor accept any 
responsibility for viruses.

Although Carmel College monitors incoming and outgoing emails for inappropriate 
content, the college cannot
be held responsible for the views or expressions of the author.
The views expressed may not necessarily be those of Carmel College and Carmel 
College cannot be held
responsible for any loss or injury resulting from the contents of a message.




-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Peso My attempt at lilac shot

2008-05-20 Thread David J Brooks
Thanks Christine.

I did this on the laptop and its not calibrated, so it might be off a
hair. I like to try and use trees and branches as frames, for some
reason.:-)

Dave

On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 6:21 PM, Christine  Aguila
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dave:  Very nice.  It shows a little dark on my monitor--BUT that could be
 just my monitor.  Very pleasing frame.  Cheers, Christine


 - Original Message -
 From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Pentax Discuss pdml@pdml.net; Harry Bolton [EMAIL PROTECTED];
 Barbara Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Yvette Sheppard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 3:07 PM
 Subject: Peso My attempt at lilac shot


 Its still very windy, but a little persistance and i got this one.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7282263

 K10D, DA 50 f2.8, Slik 700 pro tripod, minor LR crop and exposure adjust

 Dave

 --
 Equine Photography
 www.caughtinmotion.com
 http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/
 Ontario Canada

 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and
 follow the directions.




 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
 the directions.




-- 
Equine Photography
www.caughtinmotion.com
http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/
Ontario Canada

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Peso Hand blown glass stuff

2008-05-20 Thread David J Brooks
Thanks Bob.

It is very difficult indeed. It took a few classes to start getting
the rolling and shaping down at all. The teachers were all final year
students, making extra money, and their works were fantastic.

I'm still fasinated by the proccess, and still have thoughts of doing it again.

Dave

On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 4:48 PM, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 That's nice Dave.  I wish I had my own pieces.
 It's a real contrast to the vase I saw made Saturday, and
 a commentary on how easy glass blowing is NOT !
 I think you have to be a master craftsman to make commercial pieces.
 Regards,  Bob S.


 On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 3:13 PM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Inspired by Bob's Geso, i finally got around to photographing my
 peices i made in 1980-81.

 Ten week class at Sheridan College in Mississauga, these are what made
 it safetly from the cooling oven.

 One piece was dropped and one never finished.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7282247

 The big blob, centre back row was the first thing i made.

 The blue one with the piece out of it, was the only one that was
 straight, and the instructor dropped it when she
 took it out of the cooling oven. She was in tears, i told her no big
 deal, i';ll make another. That one is in front
 of it, the orangey one with the handle.

 K10D, DA 50 f2.8, slik 700 pro tripod, minor crop and exposure in LR.
 Dave

 --
 Equine Photography
 www.caughtinmotion.com
 http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/
 Ontario Canada

 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and 
 follow the directions.


 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
 the directions.




-- 
Equine Photography
www.caughtinmotion.com
http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/
Ontario Canada

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: PESO: Oak Leaves

2008-05-20 Thread Paul Stenquist
A r nice spring moment. Good light. Well captured.
Paul
On May 19, 2008, at 9:38 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

 Work has been brutal lately, and there hasn't been
 much time for photography.  This was taken during an
 evening walk during a recent visit to Rochester, NY,
 to pick up our son from college:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7283594

 K10D, DA 50-200, f/5.6 @ 1/250, ISO 400, RAW via LR.

 Rick




 --  
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above  
 and follow the directions.


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Bird Picture

2008-05-20 Thread Paul Stenquist
And strong detail. Well done.
Paul
On May 19, 2008, at 11:55 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

 Nice capture Bill, good light.

 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

 - Original Message -
 From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: PESO: Bird Picture


 For you Brits, really, it's a bird, with feathers and everything.

 http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/new/robin.html

 K20D @ ISO 400
 F*300mm f4.5
 1/60 sec at f/4.5.

 I quite like this little 300mm lens.

 William Robb

 --  
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above  
 and
 follow the directions.


 -- 
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above  
 and follow the directions.


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


PESO - Two Sides of Love

2008-05-20 Thread frank theriault
A subway story:

http://tinyurl.com/5q7mcg

http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SDLHx_BRrUI/CEM/3Ub-Tc2mfQc/s1600-h/may_20_08+012.jpg

Comments always welcome.  Thanks!

cheers,
frank

-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: smc PENTAX-FA 50mm F1.4 last shots with K100D Super

2008-05-20 Thread Adam Maas
Over here it's dirt cheap, running around half the price of the Canon
or Sony and a little more than that against the Nikon. The Pentax is
around $200 while the Nikon is $360 or so and the Canon and Sony are
$400+

-Adam

On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 3:51 AM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What surprises me is the line:
 price of the lense (most expensive standard prime in its class, besides
 Zeiss of course)

 Are we talking about the Pentax SMC FA 50mm f1.4? That's the cheapest in
 it's class (Nikon's being close).
 FYI the prices (in GBP... source: Ebay.co.uk):
 Canon 50mm f1.4 - ~165 pounds
 Nikon 50mm f1.4 - ~135 pounds
 Pentax 50mm f1.4 - ~130 pounds
 Canon 50mm f1.8 - ~60 pounds
 Nikon 50mm f1.8 - ~50 pounds

 The only thing Pentax is 'missing' is an 50mm f1.8 lens... but the price
 of the f1.4/50mm is fairly low IMHO. And I had the Canon f1.8 50mm in my
 hands... cheap and plastic. I really disliked that lens. A friend of mine
 sold his because it was extremely soft at f1.8, yet I heard no real
 complains about the FA f1.4/50mm.

 The two reason I am not considering to buy this lens is: my Porst
 55mm/f1.2 MF lens and my dream to get my hands on an FA 77mm f1.8 :D The
 FA77's Bokeh... is a dreeeaaam :D

 .t

 http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20080516134346
 ^^^ I'd lusted after this lense for over a year but something else
 always came in. Now, knowing K20D CMOS sensor reads diagonal light of FA
 lenses I'd decided to buy this 1.4 fast prime and here goes few samples,
 probably just emphasizing on its beautiful bokeh. FA 50mm is kinda soft
 full open, with few pixel wide soft cast but it's gone by f/2.0 and
 lense is sharpest at f/5.6 - 8.0. Light is very well controlled and
 level of aberrations is insignificant. Now I found my new favorite
 lense. Shame it took ages to finally find it. Perhaps expectancy of FF
 pentax body in December 2008 / January 2009 had contributed a bit to my
 decision to purchase full frame lense here.

 Your comments are welcome, as always.

 Roman.


 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and
 follow the directions.




 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
 the directions.




-- 
M. Adam Maas
http://www.mawz.ca
Explorations of the City Around Us.

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: wHICH fLASH UNIT FOR K10D OR K20D

2008-05-20 Thread Tim Øsleby
I beleave the Metz can be upgraded, if needed in future.
But that may take time, so I think you swayed me back again.
I is hard to decide, since I know so little about flashes.

MaritimTim

2008/5/20 Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 The Metz can set aperture and ISO data automatically, the Pentax's
 can't. The Pentax is guaranteed to work on newer P-TTL bodies, the
 Metz isn't.

 -Adam

 On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 9:16 PM, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 As I read Thibouille the Metz auto function is slightly more
 sophisticated. Is it something I overlook here?

 MaritimTim

 2008/5/20 Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Note that both the Pentax AF540FGZ and AF360FGZ offer Auto flash as
 well as P-TTL, digital TTL and analog TTL support.

 -Adam


 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and 
 follow the directions.




 --
 M. Adam Maas
 http://www.mawz.ca
 Explorations of the City Around Us.

 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
 the directions.




-- 
MaritimTim
-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: smc PENTAX-FA 50mm F1.4 last shots with K100D Super

2008-05-20 Thread P. J. Alling
Looks dry, you might want to put some ketchup on that.

Cotty wrote:
 On 20/5/08, Roman Melihhov, discombobulated, unleashed:

   
 Perhaps expectancy of FF 
 pentax body in December 2008 / January 2009 had contributed a bit to my 
 decision to purchase full frame lense here.
 

 Or perhaps you're just dreaming..

 http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/spare2.html



   


-- 
Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil...
   -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle 


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Better Beamer any good at birds?

2008-05-20 Thread Tim Øsleby
I'm not very fond of using flash. I nearly never do. But lately I have
tried using some fill from the K20D built in flash, and the results
does not look too bad. At the moment I don't have any other falshes
that are compatible with the K20D. And I tend to beleave I need an
advanced flash for what I want to do.  I have also found an old Hama
of camera flash bracket at the bottom of my closet.

I have read some good things about the Better Beamer used to make fill
flash in birding.http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/better_beamer.shtml
The pictures of that page does nott look very convinsing, but the
article made me think. There might be an triple enablement coming, new
flash and a the BB and something to trigger the flash in the bracket.

But I have also read some bad things about the BB. Those who are
negative says it makes flat light, and that this destroyes the details
of the feather. That makes sense to me, since the BB makes very direct
light. The bracket might help a bit, but at large distances it is
still very direct. As I understand the trick is to understand the
limitations of the tool, and don't to use the flash as man light
source, more as discrete fill, to make the picture pop. This is what
my experiments with the built in flash tells me. Am I on the right
track here?

Being a flash novice I really need some help to decide. I beleave
someone here has used some kind of flash extender in birding. Paul
maybe? I would not be surpriced if some of the lsit birders actually
knows something about this. I am also sure somebody who has no idea
could give me some input too :-) Links, babble, or personal wisdom,
your choice ;-)

I could off cource just by one to try it out myself. But I have no
place to buy it here, so that includes shipping, dealing with VAT and
all that. I don't have much money to waste at the moment.

-- 
MaritimTim

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: PESO - Two Sides of Love

2008-05-20 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: frank theriault 
Subject: PESO - Two Sides of Love


A subway story:
 
 http://tinyurl.com/5q7mcg
 
 
 Comments always welcome.  Thanks!

Excellent.

William Robb

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: smc PENTAX-FA 50mm F1.4 last shots with K100D Super

2008-05-20 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Roman Melihhov 
Subject: smc PENTAX-FA 50mm F1.4 last shots with K100D Super


 http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20080516134346
 ^^^ I'd lusted after this lense for over a year but something else
 always came in. Now, knowing K20D CMOS sensor reads diagonal light of FA
 lenses I'd decided to buy this 1.4 fast prime and here goes few samples,
 probably just emphasizing on its beautiful bokeh. FA 50mm is kinda soft
 full open, with few pixel wide soft cast but it's gone by f/2.0 and
 lense is sharpest at f/5.6 - 8.0. Light is very well controlled and
 level of aberrations is insignificant. Now I found my new favorite
 lense. Shame it took ages to finally find it. Perhaps expectancy of FF
 pentax body in December 2008 / January 2009 had contributed a bit to my
 decision to purchase full frame lense here.

 Your comments are welcome, as always.

It's one of my favourite lenses as well. In Canada it was not a terribly 
expensive lens, I think 
I paid just under $Can200.00 for a new one.

William Robb 


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: PESO - Two Sides of Love

2008-05-20 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On May 20, 2008, at 5:49 AM, frank theriault wrote:

 A subway story:

 http://tinyurl.com/5q7mcg

 http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SDLHx_BRrUI/CEM/3Ub-Tc2mfQc/s1600-h/may_20_08+012.jpg

 Comments always welcome.  Thanks!

Great one!

G

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: PESO: Oak Leaves

2008-05-20 Thread Rick Womer
Thanks everyone!  

(I love the K10D's shake reduction!)

Rick

--- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 A r nice spring moment. Good light. Well captured.
 Paul
 On May 19, 2008, at 9:38 PM, Rick Womer wrote:
 
  Work has been brutal lately, and there hasn't been
  much time for photography.  This was taken during
 an
  evening walk during a recent visit to Rochester,
 NY,
  to pick up our son from college:
 
  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7283594
 
  K10D, DA 50-200, f/5.6 @ 1/250, ISO 400, RAW via
 LR.
 
  Rick
 
 
 
 
  --  
  PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
  PDML@pdml.net
  http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
  to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the
 link directly above  
  and follow the directions.
 
 
 -- 
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link
 directly above and follow the directions.
 



  

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: PESO: Oak Leaves

2008-05-20 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On May 19, 2008, at 6:38 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

 Work has been brutal lately, and there hasn't been
 much time for photography.  This was taken during an
 evening walk during a recent visit to Rochester, NY,
 to pick up our son from college:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7283594

 K10D, DA 50-200, f/5.6 @ 1/250, ISO 400, RAW via LR.

That's nice. I like the simplicity.

Godfrey

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: OT - the dangers of seeing the world through a viewfinder

2008-05-20 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Ouch!

G

On May 20, 2008, at 12:24 AM, Anthony Farr wrote:

 Gotta look around from time to time, or something like this could  
 happen:

 http://tinyurl.com/6e6ts5

 or

 http://www.smh.com.au/news/sport/photographer-speared-by-javelin/2008/05/20/
 1211182745559.html?sssdmh=dm16.315900


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: PESO: Oak Leaves

2008-05-20 Thread Scott Loveless
Rick Womer wrote:
 Thanks everyone!  
 
 (I love the K10D's shake reduction!)
 
 Rick

It reduces the effect of camera shake, Rick.  I doubt it does much for 
the leaves.  g

BTW, that's a very nice photo.  The back light is beautiful.  Good job.

 
 --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 A r nice spring moment. Good light. Well captured.
 Paul
 On May 19, 2008, at 9:38 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

 Work has been brutal lately, and there hasn't been
 much time for photography.  This was taken during
 an
 evening walk during a recent visit to Rochester,
 NY,
 to pick up our son from college:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7283594

 K10D, DA 50-200, f/5.6 @ 1/250, ISO 400, RAW via
 LR.
 Rick


-- 
Scott Loveless
http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: PESO - Tulip

2008-05-20 Thread Scott Loveless
frank theriault wrote:
 Haven't been on the list for the past coupla days - busy with work and stuff.
 
 I'm not much of a flower guy, but the light was hitting this tulip quite 
 nicely:
 
 http://tinyurl.com/6otcx9
 
 http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SB77PxD9QbI/B8k/xQvDT_CxxGs/s1600-h/may_05_08+007.jpg
 
Very nice, Frank.  I'll agree with the others that flower is a bit hot, 
but it's a pleasing photograph overall.

-- 
Scott Loveless
http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: PESO - Two Sides of Love

2008-05-20 Thread Scott Loveless
frank theriault wrote:
 A subway story:
 
 http://tinyurl.com/5q7mcg
 
 http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SDLHx_BRrUI/CEM/3Ub-Tc2mfQc/s1600-h/may_20_08+012.jpg
 
Wonderful!  The girl on the left is very pretty.  Your photograph ain't 
bad, either.

-- 
Scott Loveless
http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


RE: OT - the dangers of seeing the world through a viewfinder

2008-05-20 Thread Anthony Farr
Sorry, Cory.  I guess I'm not as squeamish about injury as I once was, and
you have to admit it was a very clean wound.  You have to admire the
victim/photographer who had the presence of mind to photograph his own
injured leg, to avoid criticism from his editor for missing a good news
picture.

Regards,
Anthony Farr

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Cory Waters
 Sent: Tuesday, 20 May 2008 8:29 PM
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Subject: Re: OT - the dangers of seeing the world through a viewfinder
 
 Dude!  A little heads-up next time would be nice.  I was eating
breakfast...
 
 CW
 scarred for life.  Or maybe not.
 
 


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: PESO: Oak Leaves

2008-05-20 Thread Mark Roberts
Scott Loveless wrote:
 Rick Womer wrote:
 Thanks everyone!  

 (I love the K10D's shake reduction!)

 Rick
 
 It reduces the effect of camera shake, Rick.  I doubt it does much for 
 the leaves.  g

What if the photographer is shaking like a leaf?

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: smc PENTAX-FA 50mm F1.4 last shots with K100D Super

2008-05-20 Thread Scott Loveless
William Robb wrote:
 - Original Message - 
 From: Roman Melihhov 
 Subject: smc PENTAX-FA 50mm F1.4 last shots with K100D Super
 
 
 http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20080516134346
 ^^^ I'd lusted after this lense for over a year but something else
 always came in. Now, knowing K20D CMOS sensor reads diagonal light of FA
 lenses I'd decided to buy this 1.4 fast prime and here goes few samples,
 probably just emphasizing on its beautiful bokeh. FA 50mm is kinda soft
 full open, with few pixel wide soft cast but it's gone by f/2.0 and
 lense is sharpest at f/5.6 - 8.0. Light is very well controlled and
 level of aberrations is insignificant. Now I found my new favorite
 lense. Shame it took ages to finally find it. Perhaps expectancy of FF
 pentax body in December 2008 / January 2009 had contributed a bit to my
 decision to purchase full frame lense here.

 Your comments are welcome, as always.
 
 It's one of my favourite lenses as well. In Canada it was not a terribly 
 expensive lens, I think 
 I paid just under $Can200.00 for a new one.
 
Christie and I just celebrated our 10 year anniversary a few days ago. 
I gave her an FA50/1.4.  It hasn't come off her camera since.  She's 
even let me take a photo or two with it.  That lens is one hell of a 
good bargain.


-- 
Scott Loveless
http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: PESO - Two Sides of Love

2008-05-20 Thread Jack Davis
Great, but disturbing catch.

Jack


--- On Tue, 5/20/08, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: PESO - Two Sides of Love
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net
 Date: Tuesday, May 20, 2008, 5:49 AM
 A subway story:
 
 http://tinyurl.com/5q7mcg
 
 http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SDLHx_BRrUI/CEM/3Ub-Tc2mfQc/s1600-h/may_20_08+012.jpg
 
 Comments always welcome.  Thanks!
 
 cheers,
 frank
 
 -- 
 Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri
 Cartier-Bresson
 
 -- 
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link
 directly above and follow the directions.


  

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: PESO - Not the usual Bleeding Heart

2008-05-20 Thread David Savage
Nice colours, but the vertical banding is a nuisance.

Cheers,

Dave

2008/5/20 Ken Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html

 Taken with K20D, 200mm f4.0 ED Macro SMCP A*, f7.1 @ 1/200, +1.3, ISO 1600
 on Bogen 3221 tripod with Bogen mini gear head.

 Comments solicited  appreciated.

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: PESO - Two Sides of Love

2008-05-20 Thread John Whittingham
Great capture.

John

On Tue, 20 May 2008 08:49:37 -0400, frank theriault wrote
 A subway story:
 
 http://tinyurl.com/5q7mcg
 
 http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SDLHx_BRrUI/CEM/3Ub-
 Tc2mfQc/s1600-h/may_20_08+012.jpg
 
 Comments always welcome.  Thanks!
 
 cheers,
 frank
 
 -- 
 Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
 
 -- 
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above 
 and follow the directions.




The information transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is 
addressed and may contain
confidential and/or privileged material. If you have received an email in error 
please notify Carmel College
on [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete all copies of it from your systems.

Although Carmel College scans incoming and outgoing emails and email 
attachments for viruses we cannot
guarantee a communication to be free of all viruses nor accept any 
responsibility for viruses.

Although Carmel College monitors incoming and outgoing emails for inappropriate 
content, the college cannot
be held responsible for the views or expressions of the author.
The views expressed may not necessarily be those of Carmel College and Carmel 
College cannot be held
responsible for any loss or injury resulting from the contents of a message.




-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: smc PENTAX-FA 50mm F1.4 last shots with K100D Super

2008-05-20 Thread John Whittingham
Better with gravy, it is England after all 8)

regards,

JohnOn Tue, 20 May 2008 09:18:14 -0400, P. J. Alling wrote
 Looks dry, you might want to put some ketchup on that.
 
 Cotty wrote:
  On 20/5/08, Roman Melihhov, discombobulated, unleashed:
 

  Perhaps expectancy of FF 
  pentax body in December 2008 / January 2009 had contributed a bit to my 
  decision to purchase full frame lense here.
  
 
  Or perhaps you're just dreaming..
 
  http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/spare2.html
 
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil...
-- Dr. Jerry Pournelle
 
 -- 
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above 
 and follow the directions.




The information transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is 
addressed and may contain
confidential and/or privileged material. If you have received an email in error 
please notify Carmel College
on [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete all copies of it from your systems.

Although Carmel College scans incoming and outgoing emails and email 
attachments for viruses we cannot
guarantee a communication to be free of all viruses nor accept any 
responsibility for viruses.

Although Carmel College monitors incoming and outgoing emails for inappropriate 
content, the college cannot
be held responsible for the views or expressions of the author.
The views expressed may not necessarily be those of Carmel College and Carmel 
College cannot be held
responsible for any loss or injury resulting from the contents of a message.




-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: smc PENTAX-FA 50mm F1.4 last shots with K100D Super

2008-05-20 Thread John Whittingham
Better with gravy, it is England after all 8)

regards,

John

On Tue, 20 May 2008 09:18:14 -0400, P. J. Alling wrote
 Looks dry, you might want to put some ketchup on that.
 
 Cotty wrote:
  On 20/5/08, Roman Melihhov, discombobulated, unleashed:
 

  Perhaps expectancy of FF 
  pentax body in December 2008 / January 2009 had contributed a bit to my 
  decision to purchase full frame lense here.
  
 
  Or perhaps you're just dreaming..
 
  http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/spare2.html
 
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil...
-- Dr. Jerry Pournelle
 
 -- 
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above 
 and follow the directions.




The information transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is 
addressed and may contain
confidential and/or privileged material. If you have received an email in error 
please notify Carmel College
on [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete all copies of it from your systems.

Although Carmel College scans incoming and outgoing emails and email 
attachments for viruses we cannot
guarantee a communication to be free of all viruses nor accept any 
responsibility for viruses.

Although Carmel College monitors incoming and outgoing emails for inappropriate 
content, the college cannot
be held responsible for the views or expressions of the author.
The views expressed may not necessarily be those of Carmel College and Carmel 
College cannot be held
responsible for any loss or injury resulting from the contents of a message.




-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: OT - the dangers of seeing the world through a viewfinder

2008-05-20 Thread David Savage
Scarred for life?

Did you have javelin stab you in the leg?

No!

Harden up then.

:-D

Cheers,

Dave (it is gross though)

2008/5/20 Cory Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Dude!  A little heads-up next time would be nice.  I was eating breakfast...

 CW
 scarred for life.  Or maybe not.


 Anthony Farr wrote:
 Gotta look around from time to time, or something like this could happen:

 http://tinyurl.com/6e6ts5

 or

 http://www.smh.com.au/news/sport/photographer-speared-by-javelin/2008/05/20/
 1211182745559.html?sssdmh=dm16.315900

 regards,
 Anthony Farr



 


 No virus found in this incoming message.
 Checked by AVG.
 Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.23.21/1455 - Release Date: 5/19/2008 
 5:04 PM



 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
 the directions.


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: PESO -- Grand Avenue Bridge

2008-05-20 Thread P. J. Alling
Rick was the only person to comment on this shot and he had a more than 
valid point, and there was something I could do about it.  There's lots 
of detail in the full resolution image, but it tends to disappear when I 
resize it for the web.  So I decided to try for more separation between 
the very dark almost black bridge and the grayer background.  I 
lightened the image overall and then increased the contrast selectively 
in the darker elements, curves can do wonders.  Now the bridge pops a 
bit more when compared to the background elements.  (The crop is a 
little different but still essentially the same).

http://www.mindspring.com/~distilfink/PESO%20--%20grandavenuebridge.html

The same as before and usual.

Rick Womer wrote:
 Tough shot to do, because it's a complex structure
 that is hard to separate from the background.  I tried
 years ago and never got a pic I was happy with.  I
 suspect that only a boat would provide a really good
 vantage point.

 Rick

 --- P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
 I shot this with a panoramic crop in mind.  It was a
 dull day with a bit 
 of color in the sky. 


 
 http://www.mindspring.com/~distilfink/PESO%20--%20grandavenuebridge.html
   
 Equipment: Pentax *ist-Ds/smc Pentax FA 43mm f1.9
 Limited

 As usual comments are welcome but may be totally
 ignored.

 -- 
 Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil...
-- Dr. Jerry Pournelle 


 -- 
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link
 directly above and follow the directions.

 


 http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW


   

   


-- 
Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil...
   -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle 


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: OT - the dangers of seeing the world through a viewfinder

2008-05-20 Thread Bob Sullivan
I want to know where they marked the throw distance at.
Did the contestant get a do-over?
I was glad to read that the thrower won the state title that day.
...Probably why the Photog was unprepared for the throw.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 9:08 AM, Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sorry, Cory.  I guess I'm not as squeamish about injury as I once was, and
 you have to admit it was a very clean wound.  You have to admire the
 victim/photographer who had the presence of mind to photograph his own
 injured leg, to avoid criticism from his editor for missing a good news
 picture.

 Regards,
 Anthony Farr

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Cory Waters
 Sent: Tuesday, 20 May 2008 8:29 PM
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Subject: Re: OT - the dangers of seeing the world through a viewfinder

 Dude!  A little heads-up next time would be nice.  I was eating
 breakfast...

 CW
 scarred for life.  Or maybe not.




 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
 the directions.


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


PESO -- Grand Avenue Bridge II was [Re: PESO -- Grand Avenue Bridge]

2008-05-20 Thread P. J. Alling
It might help if I posted the proper link to the new conversion.  I'd 
like to say it's early and I'm tired, but I'm not...

http://www.mindspring.com/~distilfink/PESO%20--%20grandavenuebridgeii.html

Everyone can now complain that I posted the wrong link.

P. J. Alling wrote:
 Rick was the only person to comment on this shot and he had a more than 
 valid point, and there was something I could do about it.  There's lots 
 of detail in the full resolution image, but it tends to disappear when I 
 resize it for the web.  So I decided to try for more separation between 
 the very dark almost black bridge and the grayer background.  I 
 lightened the image overall and then increased the contrast selectively 
 in the darker elements, curves can do wonders.  Now the bridge pops a 
 bit more when compared to the background elements.  (The crop is a 
 little different but still essentially the same).

 http://www.mindspring.com/~distilfink/PESO%20--%20grandavenuebridge.html

 The same as before and usual.

 Rick Womer wrote:
   
 Tough shot to do, because it's a complex structure
 that is hard to separate from the background.  I tried
 years ago and never got a pic I was happy with.  I
 suspect that only a boat would provide a really good
 vantage point.

 Rick

 --- P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
 
 I shot this with a panoramic crop in mind.  It was a
 dull day with a bit 
 of color in the sky. 


 
   
 http://www.mindspring.com/~distilfink/PESO%20--%20grandavenuebridge.html
   
 
 Equipment: Pentax *ist-Ds/smc Pentax FA 43mm f1.9
 Limited

 As usual comments are welcome but may be totally
 ignored.

 -- 
 Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil...
-- Dr. Jerry Pournelle 


 -- 
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link
 directly above and follow the directions.

 
   
 http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW


   

   
 


   


-- 
Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil...
   -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle 


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: smc PENTAX-FA 50mm F1.4 last shots with K100D Super

2008-05-20 Thread P. J. Alling
I'm not sure that I'd agree with that, I've had English Gravy...

John Whittingham wrote:
 Better with gravy, it is England after all 8)

 regards,

 John

 On Tue, 20 May 2008 09:18:14 -0400, P. J. Alling wrote
   
 Looks dry, you might want to put some ketchup on that.

 Cotty wrote:
 
 On 20/5/08, Roman Melihhov, discombobulated, unleashed:

   
   
 Perhaps expectancy of FF 
 pentax body in December 2008 / January 2009 had contributed a bit to my 
 decision to purchase full frame lense here.
 
 
 Or perhaps you're just dreaming..

 http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/spare2.html




   
 -- 
 Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil...
-- Dr. Jerry Pournelle

 -- 
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above 
 and follow the directions.
 


 

 The information transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is 
 addressed and may contain
 confidential and/or privileged material. If you have received an email in 
 error please notify Carmel College
 on [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete all copies of it from your systems.

 Although Carmel College scans incoming and outgoing emails and email 
 attachments for viruses we cannot
 guarantee a communication to be free of all viruses nor accept any 
 responsibility for viruses.

 Although Carmel College monitors incoming and outgoing emails for 
 inappropriate content, the college cannot
 be held responsible for the views or expressions of the author.
 The views expressed may not necessarily be those of Carmel College and Carmel 
 College cannot be held
 responsible for any loss or injury resulting from the contents of a message.

 


   


-- 
Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil...
   -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle 


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: PESO -- Grand Avenue Bridge II was [Re: PESO -- Grand Avenue Bridge]

2008-05-20 Thread Bob Sullivan
Peter,
That's a much better look at the bridge.  It stands out more from the
background.
I love all the structural elements in the older bridges.
There was lots of construction/assembly on site back then.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 10:09 AM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It might help if I posted the proper link to the new conversion.  I'd
 like to say it's early and I'm tired, but I'm not...

 http://www.mindspring.com/~distilfink/PESO%20--%20grandavenuebridgeii.html

 Everyone can now complain that I posted the wrong link.

 P. J. Alling wrote:
 Rick was the only person to comment on this shot and he had a more than
 valid point, and there was something I could do about it.  There's lots
 of detail in the full resolution image, but it tends to disappear when I
 resize it for the web.  So I decided to try for more separation between
 the very dark almost black bridge and the grayer background.  I
 lightened the image overall and then increased the contrast selectively
 in the darker elements, curves can do wonders.  Now the bridge pops a
 bit more when compared to the background elements.  (The crop is a
 little different but still essentially the same).

 http://www.mindspring.com/~distilfink/PESO%20--%20grandavenuebridge.html

 The same as before and usual.

 Rick Womer wrote:

 Tough shot to do, because it's a complex structure
 that is hard to separate from the background.  I tried
 years ago and never got a pic I was happy with.  I
 suspect that only a boat would provide a really good
 vantage point.

 Rick

 --- P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 I shot this with a panoramic crop in mind.  It was a
 dull day with a bit
 of color in the sky.




 http://www.mindspring.com/~distilfink/PESO%20--%20grandavenuebridge.html


 Equipment: Pentax *ist-Ds/smc Pentax FA 43mm f1.9
 Limited

 As usual comments are welcome but may be totally
 ignored.

 --
 Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil...
-- Dr. Jerry Pournelle


 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link
 directly above and follow the directions.



 http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW











 --
 Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil...
   -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle


 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
 the directions.


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: PESO -- Grand Avenue Bridge

2008-05-20 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 10:57 AM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Rick was the only person to comment on this shot and he had a more than
 valid point, and there was something I could do about it.  There's lots
 of detail in the full resolution image, but it tends to disappear when I
 resize it for the web.  So I decided to try for more separation between
 the very dark almost black bridge and the grayer background.  I
 lightened the image overall and then increased the contrast selectively
 in the darker elements, curves can do wonders.  Now the bridge pops a
 bit more when compared to the background elements.  (The crop is a
 little different but still essentially the same).

 http://www.mindspring.com/~distilfink/PESO%20--%20grandavenuebridge.html


I like this one a lot (I don't think I saw the original, as it looks
like you used the same url for the second rendering?).  Then again,
I've always had a thing for draw bridges and swing bridges.  They seem
such an anachronism these days, and they seem so representative of the
age in which they were built.

This one is lovely, right in the centre of town (as they always seemed
to be), with a church steeple peeking up from the superstructure.

I like it a lot.  The dark rendering seems perfect for gloomy day in a
mill-town (as this appears it might be).

cheers,
frank

-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: PESO -- Grand Avenue Bridge II was [Re: PESO -- Grand Avenue Bridge]

2008-05-20 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 11:19 AM, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Peter,
 That's a much better look at the bridge.  It stands out more from the
 background.
 I love all the structural elements in the older bridges.
 There was lots of construction/assembly on site back then.


Right.

So it seems that I ~was~ looking at the earlier rendering at the old
url.  I like this one better, too.

cheers,
frank

-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: PESO -- Grand Avenue Bridge II was [Re: PESO -- Grand Avenue Bridge]

2008-05-20 Thread P. J. Alling
It's a swing bridge, and is slated for renovation sometime in the next 
two years, (as soon as they finish rebuilding the bridge about 1/2 mile 
down river).  I usually fear for these old monuments as the results have 
been about 50% complete removal and replacement. The entire road 
parallel to the river at that point is slated to be changed from 2 lanes 
to 4.  Now mind you this is to handle the increased traffic, which was 
wholly the result of the other bridge being reconstructed...

Bob Sullivan wrote:
 Peter,
 That's a much better look at the bridge.  It stands out more from the
 background.
 I love all the structural elements in the older bridges.
 There was lots of construction/assembly on site back then.
 Regards,  Bob S.

 On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 10:09 AM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 It might help if I posted the proper link to the new conversion.  I'd
 like to say it's early and I'm tired, but I'm not...

 http://www.mindspring.com/~distilfink/PESO%20--%20grandavenuebridgeii.html

 Everyone can now complain that I posted the wrong link.

 P. J. Alling wrote:
 
 Rick was the only person to comment on this shot and he had a more than
 valid point, and there was something I could do about it.  There's lots
 of detail in the full resolution image, but it tends to disappear when I
 resize it for the web.  So I decided to try for more separation between
 the very dark almost black bridge and the grayer background.  I
 lightened the image overall and then increased the contrast selectively
 in the darker elements, curves can do wonders.  Now the bridge pops a
 bit more when compared to the background elements.  (The crop is a
 little different but still essentially the same).

 http://www.mindspring.com/~distilfink/PESO%20--%20grandavenuebridge.html

 The same as before and usual.

 Rick Womer wrote:

   
 Tough shot to do, because it's a complex structure
 that is hard to separate from the background.  I tried
 years ago and never got a pic I was happy with.  I
 suspect that only a boat would provide a really good
 vantage point.

 Rick

 --- P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 
 I shot this with a panoramic crop in mind.  It was a
 dull day with a bit
 of color in the sky.




   
 http://www.mindspring.com/~distilfink/PESO%20--%20grandavenuebridge.html


 
 Equipment: Pentax *ist-Ds/smc Pentax FA 43mm f1.9
 Limited

 As usual comments are welcome but may be totally
 ignored.

 --
 Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil...
-- Dr. Jerry Pournelle


 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link
 directly above and follow the directions.



   
 http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW






 

   
 --
 Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil...
   -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle


 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and 
 follow the directions.

 

   


-- 
Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil...
   -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle 


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


PESO: Bark

2008-05-20 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I came across this tree in the Garden of the Birr Castle Desmesne,
Ireland, and found the patterns in the bark interesting:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7248645

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: PESO: Oak Leaves

2008-05-20 Thread Rick Womer
-That- it can fix!

--- Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Scott Loveless wrote:
  Rick Womer wrote:
  Thanks everyone!  
 
  (I love the K10D's shake reduction!)
 
  Rick
  
  It reduces the effect of camera shake, Rick.  I
 doubt it does much for 
  the leaves.  g
 
 What if the photographer is shaking like a leaf?
 
 -- 
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link
 directly above and follow the directions.
 



  

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: PESO: Oak Leaves

2008-05-20 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Work has been brutal lately, and there hasn't been
 much time for photography.  This was taken during an
 evening walk during a recent visit to Rochester, NY,
 to pick up our son from college:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7283594

 K10D, DA 50-200, f/5.6 @ 1/250, ISO 400, RAW via LR.

It's all about the light!

Terrific shot, Rick.

cheers,
frank




-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Oak Leaves

2008-05-20 Thread Christine Aguila
Great light and simple elegance to composition, Rick!  Cheers, Christine


- Original Message - 
From: Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 8:38 PM
Subject: PESO: Oak Leaves


 Work has been brutal lately, and there hasn't been
 much time for photography.  This was taken during an
 evening walk during a recent visit to Rochester, NY,
 to pick up our son from college:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7283594

 K10D, DA 50-200, f/5.6 @ 1/250, ISO 400, RAW via LR.

 Rick




 -- 
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and 
 follow the directions.
 



-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Bird Picture

2008-05-20 Thread Christine Aguila
Nice one, William.  Detail  colors very pleasing.  Cheers, Christine


- Original Message - 
From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 8:23 PM
Subject: PESO: Bird Picture


 For you Brits, really, it's a bird, with feathers and everything.

 http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/new/robin.html

 K20D @ ISO 400
 F*300mm f4.5
 1/60 sec at f/4.5.

 I quite like this little 300mm lens.

 William Robb

 -- 
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and 
 follow the directions.
 



-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: PESO - Two Sides of Love

2008-05-20 Thread Christine Aguila
Frank:  Another great shot--and story!   Well done.  Cheers, Christine


- Original Message - 
From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 7:49 AM
Subject: PESO - Two Sides of Love


A subway story:

 http://tinyurl.com/5q7mcg

 http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SDLHx_BRrUI/CEM/3Ub-Tc2mfQc/s1600-h/may_20_08+012.jpg

 Comments always welcome.  Thanks!

 cheers,
 frank

 -- 
 Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson

 -- 
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and 
 follow the directions.
 



-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Airshow

2008-05-20 Thread Christine Aguila
Patrice:  Very interesting work  some good shots.  I especially like 265. 
Cheers, Christine


- Original Message - 
From: Patrice LACOUTURE [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 11:02 AM
Subject: GESO: Airshow


 Hello.

 It's been a while since I posted anything...

 I've been to an Airshow yesterday in Orange, Provence, France... It
 was my first attempt shooting in such an event ever...

 Took my K10D with my old 80-320 handheld, and burned a few rolls of
 2GB SD cards.

 A not-so-tight-selection is visible there:

 http://www.lacouture.nom.fr/gallery/v/geso/2008-05-18-Airshow-Orange/

 For those on a tight schedule, beware: 65 photos in the gallery. It's
 quite out of the box and I did not take much time to edit it more
 severely.

 As usual, comments and suggestions are welcome.

 Regards.

 Patrice

 PS: for pixel-slicers:

 Most shots done in MF/manual exposure, @ f/16 or f/8, ISO 400.
 MF because at infinity it's safer than AF
 f/8 and f/16 to avoid using this lens wide open
 ISO 400 to rely on fast shutter rather than stabilizer to get sharp
 results handheld (no tripod, no monopod, no nothing: used my own
 biological ball head instead) On second thought I should have opted
 for 200.
 Post processing = AC correction on a few shots, sometimes a bit of
 saturation adjust, otherwise levels/contrast, cropping, and dust
 removal.

 -- 
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and 
 follow the directions.
 



-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


PESO - Landscape Architecture 101

2008-05-20 Thread frank theriault
Phyllis and Heathcliff were told that a splash of flowers would
brighten up any neighbourhood, including their own:

http://tinyurl.com/4jzyew

http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SDL14vBRraI/CFA/OCSKJH6tLmE/s1600-h/may_20_08+005.jpg

;-)

Comments welcome (or maybe not so much this time!).

cheers,
frank



-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: PESO - Landscape Architecture 101

2008-05-20 Thread P. J. Alling
frank, you are a very strange man

frank theriault wrote:
 Phyllis and Heathcliff were told that a splash of flowers would
 brighten up any neighbourhood, including their own:

 http://tinyurl.com/4jzyew

 http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SDL14vBRraI/CFA/OCSKJH6tLmE/s1600-h/may_20_08+005.jpg

 ;-)

 Comments welcome (or maybe not so much this time!).

 cheers,
 frank



   


-- 
Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil...
   -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle 


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: PESO - Two Sides of Love

2008-05-20 Thread Toine
great capture and well seen.

On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 2:49 PM, frank theriault
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 A subway story:

 http://tinyurl.com/5q7mcg

 http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SDLHx_BRrUI/CEM/3Ub-Tc2mfQc/s1600-h/may_20_08+012.jpg

 Comments always welcome.  Thanks!

 cheers,
 frank

 --
 Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson

 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
 the directions.


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Glass blower

2008-05-20 Thread Christine Aguila
Bob:  I took another look.  You tell a nice story here. I am assuming the 
ones with text are the ones you've picked that tell the story best, no?  If 
so, I think you made good choices.  Really enjoyed seeing this.  Cheers, 
Christine


- Original Message - 
From: Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PDML pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2008 1:03 PM
Subject: GESO: Glass blower


 Here's a series I took yesterday at Lotton Glass's open house.

 http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/LottonGlass

 Sorry it's so long.
 It tracks a vase from (close to) start to finish.
 It materializes before your eyes.

 I'm too close to it now to give it a critical review.
 Let me know what you think.

 Regards,  Bob S.

 -- 
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and 
 follow the directions.
 



-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: River View

2008-05-20 Thread Christine Aguila
Bob:  I like Wolf Point  South Branch very much.  Darrel  I are planning 
to do the tour this summer too. Cheers, Christine


- Original Message - 
From: Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PDML pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 10:22 PM
Subject: GESO: River View


 Friday was a beautiful day for a tour on the river in Chicago.
 The architecture is notorious.

 http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/RiverView

 All shot with the DA16-45/4 and K20D.
 Some correction of perspectives was done.
 Have I said how much I love the resolution of this camera?

 Regards,  Bob S.

 -- 
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and 
 follow the directions.
 



-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: PESO - Landscape Architecture 101

2008-05-20 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 12:12 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 frank, you are a very strange man

...and your point is?

cheers,
frank

-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: GESO: Airshow

2008-05-20 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 12:02 PM, Patrice LACOUTURE
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello.

 It's been a while since I posted anything...

 I've been to an Airshow yesterday in Orange, Provence, France... It
 was my first attempt shooting in such an event ever...

 Took my K10D with my old 80-320 handheld, and burned a few rolls of
 2GB SD cards.

 A not-so-tight-selection is visible there:

 http://www.lacouture.nom.fr/gallery/v/geso/2008-05-18-Airshow-Orange/

 For those on a tight schedule, beware: 65 photos in the gallery. It's
 quite out of the box and I did not take much time to edit it more
 severely.

 As usual, comments and suggestions are welcome.


http://www.lacouture.nom.fr/gallery/v/geso/2008-05-18-Airshow-Orange/2008-05-18+Meeting+A__rien+d_Orange+078.jpg.html

Hey, it's a Canadair CL44 waterbomber!  I'd recognize it anywhere
(even France).

They made those less than a kilometre from where I lived as a kid.
Canadair ended up being taken over by Bombardier and now that factory
is an empty field.  I used to see those waterbombers flying over my
house all the time.

Anyway, those are all great photos!  My only desire would be
identification of the airplanes.

That's the only nitpick I have for a great gallery.

cheers,
frank





-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: PESO - Landscape Architecture 101

2008-05-20 Thread P. J. Alling
well none really

frank theriault wrote:
 On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 12:12 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 frank, you are a very strange man
 

 ...and your point is?

 cheers,
 frank

   


-- 
Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil...
   -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle 


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: PESO -- Grand Avenue Bridge II was [Re: PESO -- Grand Avenue Bridge]

2008-05-20 Thread Rick Womer
A definite improvement, Peter...but one still needs a
boat! ;-)

Rick

--- P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It might help if I posted the proper link to the new
 conversion.  I'd 
 like to say it's early and I'm tired, but I'm not...
 

http://www.mindspring.com/~distilfink/PESO%20--%20grandavenuebridgeii.html
 
 Everyone can now complain that I posted the wrong
 link.
 
 P. J. Alling wrote:
  Rick was the only person to comment on this shot
 and he had a more than 
  valid point, and there was something I could do
 about it.  There's lots 
  of detail in the full resolution image, but it
 tends to disappear when I 
  resize it for the web.  So I decided to try for
 more separation between 
  the very dark almost black bridge and the grayer
 background.  I 
  lightened the image overall and then increased the
 contrast selectively 
  in the darker elements, curves can do wonders. 
 Now the bridge pops a 
  bit more when compared to the background elements.
  (The crop is a 
  little different but still essentially the same).
 
 

http://www.mindspring.com/~distilfink/PESO%20--%20grandavenuebridge.html
 
  The same as before and usual.
 
  Rick Womer wrote:

  Tough shot to do, because it's a complex
 structure
  that is hard to separate from the background.  I
 tried
  years ago and never got a pic I was happy with. 
 I
  suspect that only a boat would provide a really
 good
  vantage point.
 
  Rick
 
  --- P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 

  
  I shot this with a panoramic crop in mind.  It
 was a
  dull day with a bit 
  of color in the sky. 
 
 
  

 

http://www.mindspring.com/~distilfink/PESO%20--%20grandavenuebridge.html

  
  Equipment: Pentax *ist-Ds/smc Pentax FA 43mm
 f1.9
  Limited
 
  As usual comments are welcome but may be totally
  ignored.
 
  -- 
  Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser
 evil...
 -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle 
 
 
  -- 
  PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
  PDML@pdml.net
  http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
  to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the
 link
  directly above and follow the directions.
 
  

  http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW
 
 

 

  
 
 

 
 
 -- 
 Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil...
-- Dr. Jerry Pournelle 
 
 
 -- 
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link
 directly above and follow the directions.
 



  

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: GESO: Airshow

2008-05-20 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Nice work, Patrice! Too many to comment on specific, but it's a good  
set in general. I'd pick a few and work them to a finish rendering.

G

On May 19, 2008, at 9:02 AM, Patrice LACOUTURE wrote:

 I've been to an Airshow yesterday in Orange, Provence, France... It
 was my first attempt shooting in such an event ever...

 http://www.lacouture.nom.fr/gallery/v/geso/2008-05-18-Airshow-Orange/

 For those on a tight schedule, beware: 65 photos in the gallery. It's
 quite out of the box and I did not take much time to edit it more
 severely.

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: PESO - Landscape Architecture 101

2008-05-20 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
That's very funny. Love the composition. The gray and darker toned  
areas need a little more sparkle.

Godfrey

On May 20, 2008, at 9:12 AM, frank theriault wrote:

 Phyllis and Heathcliff were told that a splash of flowers would
 brighten up any neighbourhood, including their own:

 http://tinyurl.com/4jzyew

 http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SDL14vBRraI/CFA/ 
 OCSKJH6tLmE/s1600-h/may_20_08+005.jpg


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Better Beamer any good at birds?

2008-05-20 Thread AlunFoto
Tim,

I don't think you can go much wrong with the BetterBeamer. Thanks for
the tip... :-)
I'm no expert practitioner of fill flash with wildlife. From my modest
use I've found the compensation adjustment from the Fn-button back on
the K10D to be pretty neat. At least compared to all the messing
around I did before.

Your main investment will be a P-TTL enabled flash. Even with the BB,
it seems like a good idea to look for as high a guide number as your
money can buy. Whether it says Sigma or Pentax probably doesn't matter
much re: functionality.

I believe you're quite right about what you can expect from this kind
of flash use. It will be the little extra in the animal portraits, to
bring out the glint in the eye, to lift shadows from sharp to
acceptable, that sort of thing. Can also be used in combination with
long exposure times to fix a demonic eye-glint in a motion-blurred
animal, for example.
As for flat light, I'd say that sounds like the usual webforum whine
from people with too high-strung expectations and low-wired knowledge.
I've produced that sort of images more often than not myself, but I
know it's not the equipment's fault. Fill flash just won't save your
ass in all light situations. Just in some.

Jostein

2008/5/20 Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 I'm not very fond of using flash. I nearly never do. But lately I have
 tried using some fill from the K20D built in flash, and the results
 does not look too bad. At the moment I don't have any other falshes
 that are compatible with the K20D. And I tend to beleave I need an
 advanced flash for what I want to do.  I have also found an old Hama
 of camera flash bracket at the bottom of my closet.

 I have read some good things about the Better Beamer used to make fill
 flash in birding.http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/better_beamer.shtml
 The pictures of that page does nott look very convinsing, but the
 article made me think. There might be an triple enablement coming, new
 flash and a the BB and something to trigger the flash in the bracket.

 But I have also read some bad things about the BB. Those who are
 negative says it makes flat light, and that this destroyes the details
 of the feather. That makes sense to me, since the BB makes very direct
 light. The bracket might help a bit, but at large distances it is
 still very direct. As I understand the trick is to understand the
 limitations of the tool, and don't to use the flash as man light
 source, more as discrete fill, to make the picture pop. This is what
 my experiments with the built in flash tells me. Am I on the right
 track here?

 Being a flash novice I really need some help to decide. I beleave
 someone here has used some kind of flash extender in birding. Paul
 maybe? I would not be surpriced if some of the lsit birders actually
 knows something about this. I am also sure somebody who has no idea
 could give me some input too :-) Links, babble, or personal wisdom,
 your choice ;-)

 I could off cource just by one to try it out myself. But I have no
 place to buy it here, so that includes shipping, dealing with VAT and
 all that. I don't have much money to waste at the moment.

 --
 MaritimTim

 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
 the directions.




-- 
http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/
http://alunfoto.blogspot.com

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: wHICH fLASH UNIT FOR K10D OR K20D

2008-05-20 Thread Lucas Rijnders
Op Tue, 20 May 2008 02:50:58 +0200 schreef Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Note that both the Pentax AF540FGZ and AF360FGZ offer Auto flash as
 well as P-TTL, digital TTL and analog TTL support.

Hey, that's 'new' on the AF-540 over the AF-500? Or did I miss the  
Auto-flash function on the AF-500?

-- 
Regards, Lucas.


 On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 4:57 PM, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sounds neat, very neat. Could sway me towards Metz.

 I'm very close to buying a flash, after I found an old Hama flash
 bracket at the bottom of a closset. I have found memories about that
 piece of equpment. It gave me much better light than on camera flash.
 And it made me look pro, as I recall :-)
 Now I've grown grey, and with it I will look just almost as cool as
 Greywolf with his Speedgraphic PJ setup :-)

 Speaking of brackets. It has a standard sync connection. What's my
 best options for triggering the flash if I want to have some kind
 autofunction? That leaves standard sync out, deosn't it? I'm not very
 fond of the wireless system, the flash tends to power down on me when
 I need it. So I beleave the Pentax sync is the only alternative left.
 Am I right about that?

 MaritimTim (flash novice)

 2008/5/19 Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 a little feature which *might* be usefull to some so I will write
 about it again:
 Metz offers (with 58AF1 only, the 48AF1 has no embedded sensor) auto  
 flash.
 Metz auto flash works automaticaly which means it reads
 aperture/iso/focal  etc settings from the camera.

 It means you can use auto flash as easily as PTTL but.. without PTTL.
 Usefull if you don't like PTTL or if you need to cure problems as:

 * reflections (mirrors etc with which PTTL sucks)
 * poeple closing their eyes due to the early metering flash from PTTL.

 This feature will of course work as well with older camera (Z/PZ, MZ,
 SF, *ist, DSLRs etc.)
 It also feature HSS, wireless etc... of crouse.
 --
 Thibault Massart aka Thibouille
 --
 Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ...
 Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB
 Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007)

 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and  
 follow the directions.




 --
 MaritimTim

 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and  
 follow the directions.







-- 
Ciao, Lucas

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: PESO: Bark

2008-05-20 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 11:35 AM, Daniel J. Matyola
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I came across this tree in the Garden of the Birr Castle Desmesne,
 Ireland, and found the patterns in the bark interesting:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7248645

That's beautiful!  Love those two vertical lines on the left!  Nicely rendered.

cheers,
frank

-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: 20 Pentax lenses tested on K20D by Chasseur D'images

2008-05-20 Thread John Mustarde
I'm curious - what is a centering defect 

Photozone shows a flaw in the DA* 200 - purple
fringing. Bad enough for me to avoid it.
Unfortunately the DA* 200mm f/2.8 has quite a problem
regarding purple fringing. Purple fringing is a
blooming effect that occurs at extreme contrast
transitions. The camera sensor has surely a few stakes
in here but the effect is also dependent on the lens. 
.
--
John Mustarde
Paris, TX

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: PESO - Not the usual Bleeding Heart

2008-05-20 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yes, Ken. Beautiful rendering and this crop certainly works for me.

Me too!

cheers,
frank

-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


RE: PESO - Two Sides of Love

2008-05-20 Thread Bob W
Nice shot. 

What were the exposure settings? I find that the tube in London is too
dark to get many good handheld shots, but your tube looks brighter.

Bob 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of frank theriault
 Sent: 20 May 2008 13:50
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Subject: PESO - Two Sides of Love
 
 A subway story:
 
 http://tinyurl.com/5q7mcg
 
 http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SDLHx_BRrUI/CEM/3U
b-Tc2mfQc/s1600-h/may_20_08+012.jpg
 
 Comments always welcome.  Thanks!
 
 cheers,
 frank
 
 -- 
 Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
 
 -- 
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly 
 above and follow the directions.
 
 


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Down these mean streets...

2008-05-20 Thread Bob W
a few little compositions and details that caught my eye as I pottered
about the 'hood today.

http://www.web-options.com/EG/

Bob


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Better Beamer any good at birds?

2008-05-20 Thread Christian
hey Tim;

I pretty much use a betterbeamer (actually a kirk flash x-tender; same 
thing) on almost every bird shot I make.  Fill flash for birds really 
helps fill in shadows, highlight the feathers and give better texture 
and detail.  It also gives you nice catchlights in the eyes.

My normal procedure is to set the camera to manual exposure, dial in an 
ambient reading for exposure with the aperture I want and use the flash 
compensation to lower the flash's output.  Typically I'll shoot with a 
-1 to -2.5 flash compensation depending on subject and ambient light. 
Most of the time I'm using high speed sync so I can have fast shutter 
speeds when conditions are right.  Keep in mind that I use a Canon DSLR 
but Pentax should have the same sorts of settings.  Also, if you are 
serious about using flash on birds and wildlife in general, get whatever 
the newest Pentax P-TTL flash is.

I went looking for an example of high speed sync with the camera in 
manual mode and couldn't find one on my only working web gallery...  oh 
well, here is one in aperture priority with a normal shutter speed 1/200:

Pyrrhuloxia (Cardinalis sinuatus)
http://links.pictures.aol.com/pic/2d202SU7xah202JL7C4tZUZ-gwvVcuOkdY8rv4xQp5Fd3Ig=_l.jpg

I think the details speak for themselves in regards to the flat 
lighting argument.

Christian


Tim Øsleby wrote:
 I'm not very fond of using flash. I nearly never do. But lately I have
 tried using some fill from the K20D built in flash, and the results
 does not look too bad. At the moment I don't have any other falshes
 that are compatible with the K20D. And I tend to beleave I need an
 advanced flash for what I want to do.  I have also found an old Hama
 of camera flash bracket at the bottom of my closet.
 
 I have read some good things about the Better Beamer used to make fill
 flash in birding.http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/better_beamer.shtml
 The pictures of that page does nott look very convinsing, but the
 article made me think. There might be an triple enablement coming, new
 flash and a the BB and something to trigger the flash in the bracket.
 
 But I have also read some bad things about the BB. Those who are
 negative says it makes flat light, and that this destroyes the details
 of the feather. That makes sense to me, since the BB makes very direct
 light. The bracket might help a bit, but at large distances it is
 still very direct. As I understand the trick is to understand the
 limitations of the tool, and don't to use the flash as man light
 source, more as discrete fill, to make the picture pop. This is what
 my experiments with the built in flash tells me. Am I on the right
 track here?
 
 Being a flash novice I really need some help to decide. I beleave
 someone here has used some kind of flash extender in birding. Paul
 maybe? I would not be surpriced if some of the lsit birders actually
 knows something about this. I am also sure somebody who has no idea
 could give me some input too :-) Links, babble, or personal wisdom,
 your choice ;-)
 
 I could off cource just by one to try it out myself. But I have no
 place to buy it here, so that includes shipping, dealing with VAT and
 all that. I don't have much money to waste at the moment.
 


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: GESO: Lorikeets

2008-05-20 Thread Christian
Derby Chang wrote:
 While walking up Macquarie Street to the WPP show, I heard two lorikeets 
 taking turns excavating an apartment. After the show, I walked by again, 
 and they had gone, having dug so deeply into the palm tree, that their 
 balcony had collapses. Oh well
 
 http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/08_05/08_05_rainbow/index.htm
 
 D
 

Beautiful birds, Derby.  I saw hundreds of these guys on Hamilton Island 
but they were all at the tops of the palms and out of reach of my 300mm 
and 1.4x TC.  aussies are so lucky with their bird life!  Can't wait to 
get back...  This time with a 500mm!

Christian

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: PESO - Two Sides of Love

2008-05-20 Thread Christian
frank theriault wrote:
 A subway story:
 
 http://tinyurl.com/5q7mcg
 
 http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SDLHx_BRrUI/CEM/3Ub-Tc2mfQc/s1600-h/may_20_08+012.jpg
 
 Comments always welcome.  Thanks!
 
 cheers,
 frank
 

Well seen and captured, frank!

Christian

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Better Beamer any good at birds?

2008-05-20 Thread Tim Øsleby
Thank you for your input and the quick tutorial.

Yes you are right. That's totally unacceptable, the feathers are
completely washed out:-)

One more thing while I have you here Christian. Or two actually :-)

Do you think my on camera Hama flashbracket (raises flash about two
inches above, and swings it out about seven inches) will do, or do I
need to look for a solution that mounts the flash at the gimbal mount
(Manfrotto 393). Flash brackets for the Manfrotto mount are impossible
to find, so I've got to make one myself if needed.

I've also been thinking on how the birds react on the flash. I've
heard that most birds don't seem to care. What about shy and
threatened birds, is that a no no, generally speaking.

MaritimTim

2008/5/20 Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 hey Tim;

 I pretty much use a betterbeamer (actually a kirk flash x-tender; same
 thing) on almost every bird shot I make.  Fill flash for birds really
 helps fill in shadows, highlight the feathers and give better texture
 and detail.  It also gives you nice catchlights in the eyes.

 My normal procedure is to set the camera to manual exposure, dial in an
 ambient reading for exposure with the aperture I want and use the flash
 compensation to lower the flash's output.  Typically I'll shoot with a
 -1 to -2.5 flash compensation depending on subject and ambient light.
 Most of the time I'm using high speed sync so I can have fast shutter
 speeds when conditions are right.  Keep in mind that I use a Canon DSLR
 but Pentax should have the same sorts of settings.  Also, if you are
 serious about using flash on birds and wildlife in general, get whatever
 the newest Pentax P-TTL flash is.

 I went looking for an example of high speed sync with the camera in
 manual mode and couldn't find one on my only working web gallery...  oh
 well, here is one in aperture priority with a normal shutter speed 1/200:

 Pyrrhuloxia (Cardinalis sinuatus)
 http://links.pictures.aol.com/pic/2d202SU7xah202JL7C4tZUZ-gwvVcuOkdY8rv4xQp5Fd3Ig=_l.jpg

 I think the details speak for themselves in regards to the flat
 lighting argument.

 Christian


 Tim Øsleby wrote:
 I'm not very fond of using flash. I nearly never do. But lately I have
 tried using some fill from the K20D built in flash, and the results
 does not look too bad. At the moment I don't have any other falshes
 that are compatible with the K20D. And I tend to beleave I need an
 advanced flash for what I want to do.  I have also found an old Hama
 of camera flash bracket at the bottom of my closet.

 I have read some good things about the Better Beamer used to make fill
 flash in 
 birding.http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/better_beamer.shtml
 The pictures of that page does nott look very convinsing, but the
 article made me think. There might be an triple enablement coming, new
 flash and a the BB and something to trigger the flash in the bracket.

 But I have also read some bad things about the BB. Those who are
 negative says it makes flat light, and that this destroyes the details
 of the feather. That makes sense to me, since the BB makes very direct
 light. The bracket might help a bit, but at large distances it is
 still very direct. As I understand the trick is to understand the
 limitations of the tool, and don't to use the flash as man light
 source, more as discrete fill, to make the picture pop. This is what
 my experiments with the built in flash tells me. Am I on the right
 track here?

 Being a flash novice I really need some help to decide. I beleave
 someone here has used some kind of flash extender in birding. Paul
 maybe? I would not be surpriced if some of the lsit birders actually
 knows something about this. I am also sure somebody who has no idea
 could give me some input too :-) Links, babble, or personal wisdom,
 your choice ;-)

 I could off cource just by one to try it out myself. But I have no
 place to buy it here, so that includes shipping, dealing with VAT and
 all that. I don't have much money to waste at the moment.



 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
 the directions.




-- 
MaritimTim
-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: PESO - Not the usual Bleeding Heart

2008-05-20 Thread Ken Waller
 Really nice stuff, you must have good camera equipment!   ;-)

Yep, its professional, its black ;+]

Thanks for looking  commenting.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - 
From: Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Re: PESO - Not the usual Bleeding Heart


 Ken,
 That's a very pleasing picture.
 I have to scroll to see it all, and I like both halves.
 The top half is strong with the branch and fine detail where the
 flower stem goes down,
 followed by the big curves of the pedals.
 I like the bottom half for the pointy parts and the texture and
 dimension they show.
 There is also the repeated pattern of the upward sweeping leaf.
 Really nice stuff, you must have good camera equipment!   ;-)
 Regards,  Bob S.

 On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Ken Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html

 Taken with K20D, 200mm f4.0 ED Macro SMCP A*, f7.1 @ 1/200, +1.3, ISO 
 1600
 on Bogen 3221 tripod with Bogen mini gear head.

 Comments solicited  appreciated.

 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: PESO - Not the usual Bleeding Heart

2008-05-20 Thread Ken Waller
Thanks Jack.

It's full frame BTW.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - 
From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: PESO - Not the usual Bleeding Heart


 Yes, Ken. Beautiful rendering and this crop certainly works for me.
 
 Jack
 
 
 --- On Mon, 5/19/08, Ken Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 From: Ken Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: PESO - Not the usual Bleeding Heart
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Monday, May 19, 2008, 2:02 PM
 Check out
 http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html
 
 Taken with K20D, 200mm f4.0 ED Macro SMCP A*, f7.1 @ 1/200,
 +1.3, ISO 1600 
 on Bogen 3221 tripod with Bogen mini gear head.
 
 Comments solicited  appreciated.
 
 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f 


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: PESO - Not the usual Bleeding Heart

2008-05-20 Thread Ken Waller
Thanks Paul.

Perhaps you could get down to ISO 800 with some flash fill.

Interesting comment as one of the reasons I got a K20D was for the 
performance @ higher ISO's (shown by you in some of your images) so I 
wouldn't need flash with lower ISO's.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - 
From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: PESO - Not the usual Bleeding Heart


 Very nice. I like the tight crop. Perhaps you could get down to ISO
 800 with some flash fill.
 Paul
 On May 19, 2008, at 5:02 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

 Check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html

 Taken with K20D, 200mm f4.0 ED Macro SMCP A*, f7.1 @ 1/200, +1.3,
 ISO 1600
 on Bogen 3221 tripod with Bogen mini gear head.

 Comments solicited  appreciated.

 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: PESO - Not the usual Bleeding Heart

2008-05-20 Thread Ken Waller
Thanks for looking  commenting Dave.

Vertical banding ??

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - 
From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: PESO - Not the usual Bleeding Heart


 Nice colours, but the vertical banding is a nuisance.

 Cheers,

 Dave

 2008/5/20 Ken Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html

 Taken with K20D, 200mm f4.0 ED Macro SMCP A*, f7.1 @ 1/200, +1.3, ISO 
 1600
 on Bogen 3221 tripod with Bogen mini gear head.

 Comments solicited  appreciated.


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: 20 Pentax lenses tested on K20D by Chasseur D'images

2008-05-20 Thread Thibouille
Two comments:

1/ Photozone seem to be the only one to find that much fringing, other
report very acceptable fringing

2/ it probably is more sensor blooming which means it is a K10D sensor
problem and not a lens problem.

Remember those test come from a K20D not a K10Dn and this is *much* different.

-- 
Thibault Massart aka Thibouille
--
Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ...
Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB
Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007)

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Better Beamer any good at birds?

2008-05-20 Thread Axel Belinfante
 There might be an triple enablement coming, new
 flash and a the BB and something to trigger the flash in the bracket.

Pentax made some hot-shoe adapters that might do the job -
website[1] only mentions older cameras with them, but the adapters
seem to have the three contacts seen on recent cameras.
however, cost of two adapters + connecting cable might be non-trivial.

[1] http://www.pentax.de/_de/photo/products/index.php?gruppe=flashes

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: wHICH fLASH UNIT FOR K10D OR K20D

2008-05-20 Thread Thibouille
There is no Auto flash on 330/500. and btw 540/360 can work in analog
TTL with SuperA, 645, LX :) :)

On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 8:29 PM, Lucas Rijnders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Op Tue, 20 May 2008 02:50:58 +0200 schreef Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Note that both the Pentax AF540FGZ and AF360FGZ offer Auto flash as
 well as P-TTL, digital TTL and analog TTL support.

 Hey, that's 'new' on the AF-540 over the AF-500? Or did I miss the
 Auto-flash function on the AF-500?

 --
 Regards, Lucas.


 On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 4:57 PM, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sounds neat, very neat. Could sway me towards Metz.

 I'm very close to buying a flash, after I found an old Hama flash
 bracket at the bottom of a closset. I have found memories about that
 piece of equpment. It gave me much better light than on camera flash.
 And it made me look pro, as I recall :-)
 Now I've grown grey, and with it I will look just almost as cool as
 Greywolf with his Speedgraphic PJ setup :-)

 Speaking of brackets. It has a standard sync connection. What's my
 best options for triggering the flash if I want to have some kind
 autofunction? That leaves standard sync out, deosn't it? I'm not very
 fond of the wireless system, the flash tends to power down on me when
 I need it. So I beleave the Pentax sync is the only alternative left.
 Am I right about that?

 MaritimTim (flash novice)

 2008/5/19 Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 a little feature which *might* be usefull to some so I will write
 about it again:
 Metz offers (with 58AF1 only, the 48AF1 has no embedded sensor) auto
 flash.
 Metz auto flash works automaticaly which means it reads
 aperture/iso/focal  etc settings from the camera.

 It means you can use auto flash as easily as PTTL but.. without PTTL.
 Usefull if you don't like PTTL or if you need to cure problems as:

 * reflections (mirrors etc with which PTTL sucks)
 * poeple closing their eyes due to the early metering flash from PTTL.

 This feature will of course work as well with older camera (Z/PZ, MZ,
 SF, *ist, DSLRs etc.)
 It also feature HSS, wireless etc... of crouse.
 --
 Thibault Massart aka Thibouille
 --
 Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ...
 Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB
 Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007)

 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and
 follow the directions.




 --
 MaritimTim

 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and
 follow the directions.







 --
 Ciao, Lucas

 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
 the directions.




-- 
Thibault Massart aka Thibouille
--
Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ...
Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB
Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007)

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


GESO: Orange Peel

2008-05-20 Thread Lucas Rijnders
Hi all,

I am currently working on a fun project: a friend of mine is studying for  
interior designer. Her current assignment is 'Photo styling' where, among  
other things, she has to style six photo's (four product shots, two  
supporting shots) and have them taken by an unpaid photographer.

For some reason, 'unpaid photographer' made her think of me.

At http:\\www.jenny.dds.nl/lucas/orange/peel/index.html are our first  
results. (Six of) These shots should be useable for use in a trade show  
booth and in magazines.

As this is rather new for both of us, all feedback is very welcome. If the  
weather permits, we will do a second shooting session next week.

Oh: technical details: All shots taken with a K10D and an F50/1,7. One of  
the shots is a HDRI composite, made of three base images.

Thanks in advance,
-- 
Ciao, Lucas

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: wHICH fLASH UNIT FOR K10D OR K20D

2008-05-20 Thread Lucas Rijnders
Op Tue, 20 May 2008 22:30:52 +0200 schreef Thibouille  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 There is no Auto flash on 330/500.

Pity, I really like that flash. I'm back to a Metz 40MZ3, which isn;t bas  
at all, but somehow I preferred the 500.

 and btw 540/360 can work in analog
 TTL with SuperA, 645, LX :) :)

Aargh! Just what I did not need to know. I would love a good flash useable  
on a SuperA, 645 and K10... I would love a better wideangle than the FAJ  
18-35 as well...

Regards, Lucas

 On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 8:29 PM, Lucas Rijnders [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 wrote:
 Op Tue, 20 May 2008 02:50:58 +0200 schreef Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Note that both the Pentax AF540FGZ and AF360FGZ offer Auto flash as
 well as P-TTL, digital TTL and analog TTL support.

 Hey, that's 'new' on the AF-540 over the AF-500? Or did I miss the
 Auto-flash function on the AF-500?

 --
 Regards, Lucas.


 On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 4:57 PM, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 wrote:
 Sounds neat, very neat. Could sway me towards Metz.

 I'm very close to buying a flash, after I found an old Hama flash
 bracket at the bottom of a closset. I have found memories about that
 piece of equpment. It gave me much better light than on camera flash.
 And it made me look pro, as I recall :-)
 Now I've grown grey, and with it I will look just almost as cool as
 Greywolf with his Speedgraphic PJ setup :-)

 Speaking of brackets. It has a standard sync connection. What's my
 best options for triggering the flash if I want to have some kind
 autofunction? That leaves standard sync out, deosn't it? I'm not very
 fond of the wireless system, the flash tends to power down on me when
 I need it. So I beleave the Pentax sync is the only alternative left.
 Am I right about that?

 MaritimTim (flash novice)

 2008/5/19 Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 a little feature which *might* be usefull to some so I will write
 about it again:
 Metz offers (with 58AF1 only, the 48AF1 has no embedded sensor) auto
 flash.
 Metz auto flash works automaticaly which means it reads
 aperture/iso/focal  etc settings from the camera.

 It means you can use auto flash as easily as PTTL but.. without PTTL.
 Usefull if you don't like PTTL or if you need to cure problems as:

 * reflections (mirrors etc with which PTTL sucks)
 * poeple closing their eyes due to the early metering flash from  
 PTTL.

 This feature will of course work as well with older camera (Z/PZ, MZ,
 SF, *ist, DSLRs etc.)
 It also feature HSS, wireless etc... of crouse.
 --
 Thibault Massart aka Thibouille
 --
 Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ...
 Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB
 Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007)

 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above  
 and
 follow the directions.




 --
 MaritimTim

 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and
 follow the directions.







 --
 Ciao, Lucas

 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and  
 follow the directions.







-- 
Ciao, Lucas

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Orange Peel

2008-05-20 Thread Ken Waller
Since you asked -

Images 1 thru 6  10 contain elements that distract from the chair.

Images 7, 8  9 need better lighting  need to be taken from a higher height 
to add more perspective.

Images 11,12  13 are the best product shots because of their simplicity 
although in #12, I'd try to eliminate the edge of the stairs shown in the 
ULH side.

HTH

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - 
From: Lucas Rijnders [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: GESO: Orange Peel


 Hi all,

 I am currently working on a fun project: a friend of mine is studying for
 interior designer. Her current assignment is 'Photo styling' where, among
 other things, she has to style six photo's (four product shots, two
 supporting shots) and have them taken by an unpaid photographer.

 For some reason, 'unpaid photographer' made her think of me.

 At http:\\www.jenny.dds.nl/lucas/orange/peel/index.html are our first
 results. (Six of) These shots should be useable for use in a trade show
 booth and in magazines.

 As this is rather new for both of us, all feedback is very welcome. If the
 weather permits, we will do a second shooting session next week.

 Oh: technical details: All shots taken with a K10D and an F50/1,7. One of
 the shots is a HDRI composite, made of three base images.

 Thanks in advance,
 -- 
 Ciao, Lucas


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


OT:sort-of off topic self promotion

2008-05-20 Thread Cory Waters
So, I started a blog and there ARE pictures that I took with my Pentax 
cameras so I figure a little self promotion is alright.
http://houseaudioguy.blogspot.com/
It's mainly about the job I have and the interesting things that happen 
behind the scenes of the events we put on.
I trust that one or two of you will let me know if it's complete crap 
(off-list please)

Thanks you for looking.

Cory


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Down these mean streets...

2008-05-20 Thread ann sanfedele
Nice collection -

I favor this one the very most

http://www.web-options.com/EG/content/_5217467_large.html

would like to go inside :)

ann


Bob W wrote:

a few little compositions and details that caught my eye as I pottered
about the 'hood today.

http://www.web-options.com/EG/

Bob
  




-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Down these mean streets...

2008-05-20 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 3:32 PM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 a few little compositions and details that caught my eye as I pottered
 about the 'hood today.

 http://www.web-options.com/EG/

I like this one, but I'm not sure why:

http://www.web-options.com/EG/content/_5217460_large.html

Wonderful gallery!

cheers,
frank

-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


RE: GESO: Orange Peel

2008-05-20 Thread Bob W
it's difficult to say whether these are successful or not without
knowing more about the brief. In most of them the chair seems lost
against the background. 4 and 8 are better than the rest, but I don't
really see the point of setting the chair in that context. If she's
studying interior design why has she put an indoor chair outdoors?

Also, the pictures don't show much evidence of having been 'styled'.
Typically when I think of a stylist being involved in a shoot she is
normally there to make the food or clothes look right within the scene
that the art director has directed and the photographer has shot. For
interior design I imagine the stylist is making sure that the details
of the set are correct - for instance, that the curtains are hanging
properly, the chairs are at the correct angle, the mirrors are clean,
and so on. However, this is not my world, so maybe I'm completely
wrong.

Bob

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of Lucas Rijnders
 Sent: 20 May 2008 21:39
 To: PDML
 Subject: GESO: Orange Peel
 
 Hi all,
 
 I am currently working on a fun project: a friend of mine is 
 studying for  
 interior designer. Her current assignment is 'Photo styling' 
 where, among  
 other things, she has to style six photo's (four product shots, two

 supporting shots) and have them taken by an unpaid photographer.
 
 For some reason, 'unpaid photographer' made her think of me.
 
 At http:\\www.jenny.dds.nl/lucas/orange/peel/index.html are 
 our first  
 results. (Six of) These shots should be useable for use in a 
 trade show  
 booth and in magazines.
 
 As this is rather new for both of us, all feedback is very 
 welcome. If the  
 weather permits, we will do a second shooting session next week.
 
 Oh: technical details: All shots taken with a K10D and an 
 F50/1,7. One of  
 the shots is a HDRI composite, made of three base images.
 
 Thanks in advance,
 -- 
 Ciao, Lucas
 
 -- 
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly 
 above and follow the directions.
 
 
 


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: GESO: Orange Peel

2008-05-20 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 4:39 PM, Lucas Rijnders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all,

 I am currently working on a fun project: a friend of mine is studying for
 interior designer. Her current assignment is 'Photo styling' where, among
 other things, she has to style six photo's (four product shots, two
 supporting shots) and have them taken by an unpaid photographer.

 For some reason, 'unpaid photographer' made her think of me.

 At http:\\www.jenny.dds.nl/lucas/orange/peel/index.html are our first
 results. (Six of) These shots should be useable for use in a trade show
 booth and in magazines.

 As this is rather new for both of us, all feedback is very welcome. If the
 weather permits, we will do a second shooting session next week.

 Oh: technical details: All shots taken with a K10D and an F50/1,7. One of
 the shots is a HDRI composite, made of three base images.

 Thanks in advance,
 --
 Ciao, Lucas

Some ~very~ cool shots in there.  However, the last few seem to have
no chair!  ;-)

cheers,
frank

-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Better Beamer any good at birds?

2008-05-20 Thread Tim Øsleby
Here in Norway that solution is pretty expensive. The complete set
costs about the same as the AF-200FG flash. IMO thats way to expensive
for a cable. So I hope there is a cheaper alternative out there.

MaritimTim

2008/5/20 Axel Belinfante [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 There might be an triple enablement coming, new
 flash and a the BB and something to trigger the flash in the bracket.

 Pentax made some hot-shoe adapters that might do the job -
 website[1] only mentions older cameras with them, but the adapters
 seem to have the three contacts seen on recent cameras.
 however, cost of two adapters + connecting cable might be non-trivial.

 [1] http://www.pentax.de/_de/photo/products/index.php?gruppe=flashes

 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
 the directions.




-- 
MaritimTim

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: GESO: Airshow

2008-05-20 Thread Patrice LACOUTURE
Hi Frank.

We're also quite accustomed to seeing these Canadair bombers down here
flying around Marseille. They have quite a few of them based at the
Marseille Provence Airport, and they operate in all southern France
and neighbor countries during the hot months of summer. I've seen them
working on forest fires several times (including twice scaringly close
to my house), and I must say these guys have guts. The rest of the
year, we still can see them occasionally while training. From my
office at La Ciotat, I have a panoramic view over the bay, where they
often come scooping.

Some great photo shooting opportunities, too, although I always feel
ill at ease shooting while people are seeing their home burning.

By the way, I've written down the plane and team names in my gallery...

Regards

Patrice

2008/5/20 frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 12:02 PM, Patrice LACOUTURE
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello.

 It's been a while since I posted anything...

 I've been to an Airshow yesterday in Orange, Provence, France... It
 was my first attempt shooting in such an event ever...

 Took my K10D with my old 80-320 handheld, and burned a few rolls of
 2GB SD cards.

 A not-so-tight-selection is visible there:

 http://www.lacouture.nom.fr/gallery/v/geso/2008-05-18-Airshow-Orange/

 For those on a tight schedule, beware: 65 photos in the gallery. It's
 quite out of the box and I did not take much time to edit it more
 severely.

 As usual, comments and suggestions are welcome.


 http://www.lacouture.nom.fr/gallery/v/geso/2008-05-18-Airshow-Orange/2008-05-18+Meeting+A__rien+d_Orange+078.jpg.html

 Hey, it's a Canadair CL44 waterbomber!  I'd recognize it anywhere
 (even France).

 They made those less than a kilometre from where I lived as a kid.
 Canadair ended up being taken over by Bombardier and now that factory
 is an empty field.  I used to see those waterbombers flying over my
 house all the time.

 Anyway, those are all great photos!  My only desire would be
 identification of the airplanes.

 That's the only nitpick I have for a great gallery.

 cheers,
 frank





 --
 Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson

 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
 the directions.


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Better Beamer any good at birds?

2008-05-20 Thread Paul Sorenson
Don't know if it's available in Europe, but Promaster makes a TTL off 
camera cord.  I have one and it seems to work well - price about 60USD.

-p

http://tinyurl.com/3pqm93

http://www.promaster.com/products/products.asp?page=PRODCatID=150SubCatID=1CatName=Electronic%20FlashSubCatName=Accessories%20/%20Cordssm=sm2_1501product=8179

Axel Belinfante wrote:
 There might be an triple enablement coming, new
 flash and a the BB and something to trigger the flash in the bracket.
 
 Pentax made some hot-shoe adapters that might do the job -
 website[1] only mentions older cameras with them, but the adapters
 seem to have the three contacts seen on recent cameras.
 however, cost of two adapters + connecting cable might be non-trivial.
 
 [1] http://www.pentax.de/_de/photo/products/index.php?gruppe=flashes
 


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: OT:sort-of off topic self promotion

2008-05-20 Thread David J Brooks
So I can't say its crap here.??

vbg

It looks fine Cory

Dave

On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 5:06 PM, Cory Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So, I started a blog and there ARE pictures that I took with my Pentax
 cameras so I figure a little self promotion is alright.
 http://houseaudioguy.blogspot.com/
 It's mainly about the job I have and the interesting things that happen
 behind the scenes of the events we put on.
 I trust that one or two of you will let me know if it's complete crap
 (off-list please)

 Thanks you for looking.

 Cory


 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
 the directions.




-- 
Equine Photography
www.caughtinmotion.com
http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/
Ontario Canada

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: PESO - Landscape Architecture 101

2008-05-20 Thread David J Brooks
I thought Red Skelton said Gertrude and Heathcliff.:-)

Thats a neat photo. I like the contrast between all of the objects,.

Dave

On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 12:12 PM, frank theriault
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Phyllis and Heathcliff were told that a splash of flowers would
 brighten up any neighbourhood, including their own:

 http://tinyurl.com/4jzyew

 http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SDL14vBRraI/CFA/OCSKJH6tLmE/s1600-h/may_20_08+005.jpg

 ;-)

 Comments welcome (or maybe not so much this time!).

 cheers,
 frank



 --
 Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson

 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
 the directions.




-- 
Equine Photography
www.caughtinmotion.com
http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/
Ontario Canada

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: PESO: Oak Leaves

2008-05-20 Thread David J Brooks
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 10:03 AM, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Rick Womer wrote:
 Thanks everyone!

 (I love the K10D's shake reduction!)

 Rick

 It reduces the effect of camera shake, Rick.  I doubt it does much for
 the leaves.  g

I use SR on windy days for flower shots.
Your saying i sould not.??

Dave

 BTW, that's a very nice photo.  The back light is beautiful.  Good job.


 --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 A r nice spring moment. Good light. Well captured.
 Paul
 On May 19, 2008, at 9:38 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

 Work has been brutal lately, and there hasn't been
 much time for photography.  This was taken during
 an
 evening walk during a recent visit to Rochester,
 NY,
 to pick up our son from college:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7283594

 K10D, DA 50-200, f/5.6 @ 1/250, ISO 400, RAW via
 LR.
 Rick


 --
 Scott Loveless
 http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/

 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
 the directions.




-- 
Equine Photography
www.caughtinmotion.com
http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/
Ontario Canada

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: OT:sort-of off topic self promotion

2008-05-20 Thread Scott Loveless
Cory Waters wrote:
 So, I started a blog and there ARE pictures that I took with my Pentax 
 cameras so I figure a little self promotion is alright.
 http://houseaudioguy.blogspot.com/
 It's mainly about the job I have and the interesting things that happen 
 behind the scenes of the events we put on.
 I trust that one or two of you will let me know if it's complete crap 
 (off-list please)
 
 Thanks you for looking.
 
What's with all this self promotion crap lately? 
http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/  You'd think we'd done enough 
navel gazing.  http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/  Frank has two 
blogs.  http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/  Dave Brooks has a 
blog.  http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/  Doug and Mark both have 
blogs.  http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/  Juan Buhler. 
http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/  Jostein. 
http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/  Mark Cassino. 
http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/  It's just too much.  Really. 
http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/

BTW, the blog looks nice, Cory.

http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/

-- 
Scott Loveless
http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -click here
^here^ ^right here^

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Better Beamer any good at birds?

2008-05-20 Thread Tim Øsleby
Thank you. I'll look into it.

MaritimTim

2008/5/21 Paul Sorenson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Don't know if it's available in Europe, but Promaster makes a TTL off
 camera cord.  I have one and it seems to work well - price about 60USD.

 -p

 http://tinyurl.com/3pqm93

 http://www.promaster.com/products/products.asp?page=PRODCatID=150SubCatID=1CatName=Electronic%20FlashSubCatName=Accessories%20/%20Cordssm=sm2_1501product=8179

 Axel Belinfante wrote:
 There might be an triple enablement coming, new
 flash and a the BB and something to trigger the flash in the bracket.

 Pentax made some hot-shoe adapters that might do the job -
 website[1] only mentions older cameras with them, but the adapters
 seem to have the three contacts seen on recent cameras.
 however, cost of two adapters + connecting cable might be non-trivial.

 [1] http://www.pentax.de/_de/photo/products/index.php?gruppe=flashes



 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
 the directions.




-- 
MaritimTim

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


  1   2   >