Re: Dear Spider

[mike wilson]

> 
> From: drew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Tell me about it you can imagine how many shutter actuations this 
> fellow put on my DL... ;-)
> 
> http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/rileyelf/08062008PentaxIst/photo#5209633035513411330

Ah, DL.  Therein lies the problem.  As any fule kno, you can only capture 
dragonflies and their ilk with the latest uberkamera and associated gizmos.  In 
the case of Pentax, this will be the soon never-to-be-released FF, AS-equipped 
K1D with the new, equally likely, infinitely short to infinitely long, 
infinitely wide consumer priced lens (with or without SMC) that is capable of 
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RE: How often do you use a tripod? (Was: Re: Tripod Q)

[Anthony Farr]

Yes, a good photographer knows when the composition they're contemplating is
a dead-end, and will abandon it for a something more promising.  The
compositions that work best tend to resolve themselves very quickly.

Less experienced photographers will worry at a picture, trying to pry out a
silk purse when all that's there is a sow's ear.

Regards,
Anthony Farr

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> William Robb
> Sent: Monday, 9 June 2008 12:47 AM
> 
snip)
>
> It used to drive my wife mental when I was shooting with the 4x5. We'd get
to a
> location and I'd
> just wander around for a half hour or so, apparently enjoying the ambiance
of the
> place, and
> then, apparently looking like i was doing things completely at random, I
would start
> taking
> pictures. I think what bothered her was that the places where I spent the
most time
> looking,
> were the places I didn't set up the camera.
> 
> William Robb
> 
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Re: PESO: Talk Dirty to Me

[Derby Chang]

Paul Stenquist wrote:
> And I did. She's a local farmer selling her produce and plants at the  
> Birmingham Farmer's Market. We talked tomatoes.
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7383043
>
>   

I could not imagine a better advertisement for healthy living. Beautiful 
light, too

D

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Re: Dear Spider

[drew]

>
>>
>> From: drew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Tell me about it you can imagine how many shutter actuations this
>> fellow put on my DL... ;-)
>>
>> http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/rileyelf/08062008PentaxIst/photo#5209633035513411330
>
> Ah, DL.  Therein lies the problem.  As any fule kno, you can only capture
> dragonflies and their ilk with the latest uberkamera and associated
> gizmos.  In the case of Pentax, this will be the soon never-to-be-released
> FF, AS-equipped K1D with the new, equally likely, infinitely short to
> infinitely long, infinitely wide consumer priced lens (with or without
> SMC) that is capable of being used as a tunneling electron microscope or
> galaxy crossing telescope and anything in between.  With that setup, you
> don't even need to leave your armchair to produce crystal-clear shots of
> whatever it is you want.
>

After all this time I finally know why my pictures are carp, thanks
inferior equipemnt! I wondered why many of my pictures were not up to
snuff, all this time I figured it was operator error, now I realise that
since the KxxD range came out and my *ist-DL became 'obsolete' the
pictures it produces must be obsolete also... Perhaps I'll invest in a K1D
in infinty years when it is available and I can afford it ;-)

Cheers,
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Re: Dear Spider

[mike wilson]

> 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: 2008/06/09 Mon AM 08:17:01 GMT
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Subject: Re: Dear Spider
> 
> >
> >>
> >> From: drew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Tell me about it you can imagine how many shutter actuations this
> >> fellow put on my DL... ;-)
> >>
> >> http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/rileyelf/08062008PentaxIst/photo#5209633035513411330
> >
> > Ah, DL.  Therein lies the problem.  As any fule kno, you can only capture
> > dragonflies and their ilk with the latest uberkamera and associated
> > gizmos.  In the case of Pentax, this will be the soon never-to-be-released
> > FF, AS-equipped K1D with the new, equally likely, infinitely short to
> > infinitely long, infinitely wide consumer priced lens (with or without
> > SMC) that is capable of being used as a tunneling electron microscope or
> > galaxy crossing telescope and anything in between.  With that setup, you
> > don't even need to leave your armchair to produce crystal-clear shots of
> > whatever it is you want.
> >
> 
> After all this time I finally know why my pictures are carp, thanks

You should have no problem with carp using the DL.  I'm sure this gives you 
great solace.


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Re: PESO: Talk Dirty to Me

[willdo-1]

The portrait itself is faultless and the lighting is great. I'm not a 
psychologist, but find the smile a little odd. Look at the eyes and then 
the mouth. What else did you say to that tomato -- I mean lady? :-\

D


Derby Chang wrote:
> Paul Stenquist wrote:
>   
>> And I did. She's a local farmer selling her produce and plants at the  
>> Birmingham Farmer's Market. We talked tomatoes.
>>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7383043
>>
>>   
>> 
>
> I could not imagine a better advertisement for healthy living. Beautiful 
> light, too
>
> D
>
>   


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Re: How often do you use a tripod? (Was: Re: Tripod Q)

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On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 3:24 AM, Anthony Farr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes, a good photographer knows when the composition they're contemplating is
> a dead-end, and will abandon it for a something more promising.  The
> compositions that work best tend to resolve themselves very quickly.
>
> Less experienced photographers will worry at a picture, trying to pry out a
> silk purse when all that's there is a sow's ear.

I think there is a PS plug in for that

Dave
>
> Regards,
> Anthony Farr
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
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>> Sent: Monday, 9 June 2008 12:47 AM
>>
> snip)
>>
>> It used to drive my wife mental when I was shooting with the 4x5. We'd get
> to a
>> location and I'd
>> just wander around for a half hour or so, apparently enjoying the ambiance
> of the
>> place, and
>> then, apparently looking like i was doing things completely at random, I
> would start
>> taking
>> pictures. I think what bothered her was that the places where I spent the
> most time
>> looking,
>> were the places I didn't set up the camera.
>>
>> William Robb
>>
>>
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Re: What Casey did during GFM

[David J Brooks]

I don't see Mark or Cotty in any..:-)

Congrats

Dave

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> My niece Casey graduated from High School on GFM Weekend.
> And I can prove it.
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>
> A wider lens would have been nice
>
> Casey is taking a photography class through FFA this summer.
> So I left her the camera, long zoom and kit lens.
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> Can't wait for the portfolio.
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Re: Dear Spider

[Derby Chang]

mike wilson wrote:
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> 
>>> tever it is you want.
>>>
>>>   
>> After all this time I finally know why my pictures are carp, thanks
>> 
>
> You should have no problem with carp using the DL.  I'm sure this gives you 
> great solace.
>
>   

Certainly, I'd give it a go for the halibut.

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Enablemant

[David J Brooks]

Last night a won an eekbay auction for a G3 converted to IR camera.

At the last minute, some one made about 12 bids with in 5 minutes,
bumping me up to my max bid.

Same thing happened when i needed to buy a charger for the D1 batteries.

I hate when that happens.



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Re: Dear Spider

[mike wilson]

> 
> From: Derby Chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2008/06/09 Mon AM 10:56:54 GMT
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> Subject: Re: Dear Spider
> 
> mike wilson wrote:
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> 
> >>> tever it is you want.
> >>>
> >>>   
> >> After all this time I finally know why my pictures are carp, thanks
> >> 
> >
> > You should have no problem with carp using the DL.  I'm sure this gives you 
> > great solace.
> >
> >   
> 
> Certainly, I'd give it a go for the halibut.

Minnow you would.


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Re: What Casey did during GFM

[Beaker]

Well- I did clone out a photographer and tripod...

Cheers
Mike


On Jun 9, 2008, at 6:39 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

> I don't see Mark or Cotty in any..:-)
>
> Congrats
>
> Dave
>
> On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 2:15 PM, Beaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> My niece Casey graduated from High School on GFM Weekend.
>> And I can prove it.
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/sets/72157594492416654/
>>
>> I limited myself to a single lens- an F 80-200/4.7-5.6 (thanks Boris)
>>
>> A wider lens would have been nice
>>
>> Casey is taking a photography class through FFA this summer.
>> So I left her the camera, long zoom and kit lens.
>> (All my other lenses are manual focus K Mount and M42 lenses.
>> One thing at a time)
>>
>> She will some good pictures, and a stunner or two.
>> Can't wait for the portfolio.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Mike
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Re: PESO: Giant Poppy

[pnstenquist]

I agree. I'm not liking this at all on the web. I might have made a mistake on 
the color space assignment. But the lighting sucks as well. I'll probably 
delete it later today and look for another shot.
Paul
 -- Original message --
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> I can see what you are saying about it, but the lighting is pretty
> harsh - would love to see it much more diffused.
> 
> -- 
> Best regards,
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> 
> 
> Sunday, June 8, 2008, 7:03:20 PM, you wrote:
> 
> PS> I have some hybrid poppies that produce blooms about four inches  
> PS> across. When they first open, they almost look like they're made of  
> PS> paper maiche.
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Re: PESO: Talk Dirty to Me

[pnstenquist]

Thanks D, Bruce and Derby for the comments and kudos.
I think her look is mild embarrassment. But she also seemed please that I 
wanted to photograph her. 
Paul
 -- Original message --
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> The portrait itself is faultless and the lighting is great. I'm not a 
> psychologist, but find the smile a little odd. Look at the eyes and then 
> the mouth. What else did you say to that tomato -- I mean lady? :-\
> 
> D
> 
> 
> Derby Chang wrote:
> > Paul Stenquist wrote:
> >   
> >> And I did. She's a local farmer selling her produce and plants at the  
> >> Birmingham Farmer's Market. We talked tomatoes.
> >>
> >> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7383043
> >>
> >>   
> >> 
> >
> > I could not imagine a better advertisement for healthy living. Beautiful 
> > light, too
> >
> > D
> >
> >   
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PESO: Morning Brew

[David Savage]

G'day All,

Another one from Bridgetown, taken during a BBQ breakfast (~160kb)



K20D, FA 77mm f1.8, 1/50 @ f5, ISO 100

Any & all comments welcome.

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LightRoom question

[Boris Liberman]

Hi!

Here is a simple question which I cannot answer myself:

Suppose I have a folder with several photos. Some of the photos has 
keyword tags associated with them. Some other photos don't have any 
associated tags. How can I display only the latter?

Thanks.

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Re: Enablemant

[Fernando]

I'm fed up with that aspect of ebay, my strategy is just think about
what is the maximum I'm willing to pay for something, and bid that in
the last 5 seconds. Lot of these guys just don't know how much they
want to pay and keep increasing their bids by small amounts in the
last minutes.

BTW, Congrats on the enablement

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> At the last minute, some one made about 12 bids with in 5 minutes,
> bumping me up to my max bid.
>
> Same thing happened when i needed to buy a charger for the D1 batteries.
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> I hate when that happens.
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Re: LightRoom question

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Easiest way (Lightroom 1.4.1):

- click on the folder or collection of photos you want to search
- open the Find panel
- click the Text checkbox
- set the upper popup to Keywords
- set the Rule popup to Are Empty

The grid will now show all exposures which have no assigned keywords.

Godfrey


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> Hi!
>
> Here is a simple question which I cannot answer myself:
>
> Suppose I have a folder with several photos. Some of the photos has
> keyword tags associated with them. Some other photos don't have any
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Re: GESO: Flamenco Sketches

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Tim, Interesting comments and pictures.  Regards,  Bob S.

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> At the Kino Cafe in Vancouver, in color and B&W:
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Re: Dear Spider

[Bob Sullivan]

Just find the right perch and your pictures will improve...

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>>
>> From: Derby Chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: 2008/06/09 Mon AM 10:56:54 GMT
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
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>> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >>
>> >>> tever it is you want.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >> After all this time I finally know why my pictures are carp, thanks
>> >>
>> >
>> > You should have no problem with carp using the DL.  I'm sure this gives 
>> > you great solace.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Certainly, I'd give it a go for the halibut.
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> Minnow you would.
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Re: PESO: Morning Brew

[Bob Sullivan]

Dave,
That's really a strong composition.
The stripes on the cup and the diagonal line add a lot.
Regards,  Bob S.

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> G'day All,
>
> Another one from Bridgetown, taken during a BBQ breakfast (~160kb)
>
> 
>
> K20D, FA 77mm f1.8, 1/50 @ f5, ISO 100
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> Any & all comments welcome.
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> Cheers,
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Re: How often do you use a tripod? (Was: Re: Tripod Q)

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David J Brooks wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 3:24 AM, Anthony Farr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> Yes, a good photographer knows when the composition they're contemplating is
>> a dead-end, and will abandon it for a something more promising.  The
>> compositions that work best tend to resolve themselves very quickly.
>>
>> Less experienced photographers will worry at a picture, trying to pry out a
>> silk purse when all that's there is a sow's ear.
>> 
>
> I think there is a PS plug in for that
>
> Dave
>   
If there isn't I think we should write one, you think charging 17.95 is 
too much?

>> Regards,
>> Anthony Farr
>>
>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
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>>> Sent: Monday, 9 June 2008 12:47 AM
>>>
>>>   
>> snip)
>> 
>>> It used to drive my wife mental when I was shooting with the 4x5. We'd get
>>>   
>> to a
>> 
>>> location and I'd
>>> just wander around for a half hour or so, apparently enjoying the ambiance
>>>   
>> of the
>> 
>>> place, and
>>> then, apparently looking like i was doing things completely at random, I
>>>   
>> would start
>> 
>>> taking
>>> pictures. I think what bothered her was that the places where I spent the
>>>   
>> most time
>> 
>>> looking,
>>> were the places I didn't set up the camera.
>>>
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Re: Dear Spider

[mike wilson]

> 
> From: "Bob Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2008/06/09 Mon PM 02:43:08 GMT
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Subject: Re: Dear Spider
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 6:20 AM, mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> From: Derby Chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Date: 2008/06/09 Mon AM 10:56:54 GMT
> >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> >> Subject: Re: Dear Spider
> >>
> >> mike wilson wrote:
> >> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >>
> >> >>> tever it is you want.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >> After all this time I finally know why my pictures are carp, thanks
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > You should have no problem with carp using the DL.  I'm sure this gives 
> >> > you great solace.
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> Certainly, I'd give it a go for the halibut.
> >
> > Minnow you would.
> Just find the right perch and your pictures will improve...

I hope that isn't bass ackwards.

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Re: Dear Spider

[P. J. Alling]

mike wilson wrote:
>> From: Derby Chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: 2008/06/09 Mon AM 10:56:54 GMT
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>> Subject: Re: Dear Spider
>>
>> mike wilson wrote:
>> 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
> tever it is you want.
>
>   
>   
 After all this time I finally know why my pictures are carp, thanks
 
 
>>> You should have no problem with carp using the DL.  I'm sure this gives you 
>>> great solace.
>>>
>>>   
>>>   
>> Certainly, I'd give it a go for the halibut.
>> 
>
> Minnow you would.
>   
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Re: PESO: Talk Dirty to Me

[P. J. Alling]

I've run into that from girls who don't think they're pretty enough to 
be photographed.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Thanks D, Bruce and Derby for the comments and kudos.
> I think her look is mild embarrassment. But she also seemed please that I 
> wanted to photograph her. 
> Paul
>  -- Original message --
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>   
>> The portrait itself is faultless and the lighting is great. I'm not a 
>> psychologist, but find the smile a little odd. Look at the eyes and then 
>> the mouth. What else did you say to that tomato -- I mean lady? :-\
>>
>> D
>>
>>
>> Derby Chang wrote:
>> 
>>> Paul Stenquist wrote:
>>>   
>>>   
 And I did. She's a local farmer selling her produce and plants at the  
 Birmingham Farmer's Market. We talked tomatoes.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7383043

   
 
 
>>> I could not imagine a better advertisement for healthy living. Beautiful 
>>> light, too
>>>
>>> D
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Flash Forward 2007

[Fernando]

This weekend I was reading some photography books at a local bookstore
and I found this project that publishes some of work of emerging
photographers from Canada, US and UK. Some nice portraiture, some
intriguing shots; for those who like to look at this kind of
photographs should be enjoyable.

The website has the book in pdf to download for free:
http://www.magentafoundation.org/en/projects/flash_forward/2007/FF07-preview.pdf



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Shutter problems? (partially-exposed frames)

[Charles Robinson]

I pulled out the camera on Saturday after a few days (ok, a week) of  
it sitting around unused and a couple of times when I went to use it  
the first images came out like this:

http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2008/shutter_probs/IMGP9186.jpg

The camera is in "portrait" orientation rotated to the left, so the  
stripe of image which is visible is on the "bottom" of the frame.

Seconds later, after turning the camera off/on and wondering what the  
hell is going on, I get this:

http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2008/shutter_probs/IMGP9187.jpg

..and it functioned perfectly for the rest of the day and 100+ shots.

Does anyone know what would cause this?  My only thought was that the  
mirror could have had problems and been getting in the way, but due to  
the way that an image "flips" on its way to the sensor, doesn't that  
mean I should only have seen a stripe of exposure on the TOP of the  
picture, not the bottom?

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Re: LightRoom question

[Boris Liberman]

Got that!

Thanks!


Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> Easiest way (Lightroom 1.4.1):
> 
> - click on the folder or collection of photos you want to search
> - open the Find panel
> - click the Text checkbox
> - set the upper popup to Keywords
> - set the Rule popup to Are Empty
> 
> The grid will now show all exposures which have no assigned keywords.
> 
> Godfrey
> 
> 
> On Jun 9, 2008, at 6:37 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:
> 
>> Hi!
>>
>> Here is a simple question which I cannot answer myself:
>>
>> Suppose I have a folder with several photos. Some of the photos has
>> keyword tags associated with them. Some other photos don't have any
>> associated tags. How can I display only the latter?
> 
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Re: PESO -- Rally Party

[David J Brooks]

Very good.

The incamera B&W looks very good

Dave

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> Hey all,
>I received my Panasonic L1 yesterday, and had a great opportunity
> to use it in a social setting, precisely where I envisioned using this
> camera.  This was taken in B&W mode using Live View.  I really like
> this camera kit.  Fits nicely into my hand, and seems to take really
> nice images.
>
> 
> Panasonic L1, Leica D Vario-Elmarit 14-50mm.
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> Mike
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Re: Shutter problems? (partially-exposed frames)

[David J Brooks]

Forgot to open the door all the way.??

Dave

On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Charles Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I pulled out the camera on Saturday after a few days (ok, a week) of
> it sitting around unused and a couple of times when I went to use it
> the first images came out like this:
>
> http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2008/shutter_probs/IMGP9186.jpg
>
> The camera is in "portrait" orientation rotated to the left, so the
> stripe of image which is visible is on the "bottom" of the frame.
>
> Seconds later, after turning the camera off/on and wondering what the
> hell is going on, I get this:
>
> http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2008/shutter_probs/IMGP9187.jpg
>
> ..and it functioned perfectly for the rest of the day and 100+ shots.
>
> Does anyone know what would cause this?  My only thought was that the
> mirror could have had problems and been getting in the way, but due to
> the way that an image "flips" on its way to the sensor, doesn't that
> mean I should only have seen a stripe of exposure on the TOP of the
> picture, not the bottom?
>
>  -Charles
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Re: PESO: Talk Dirty to Me

[David J Brooks]

On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 9:33 PM, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And I did. She's a local farmer selling her produce and plants at the
> Birmingham Farmer's Market.
Nice casual pose, and facial expression.

>We talked tomatoes.

Is that what we call it these days.:-)

Dave
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Re: PESO: Morning Brew

[David J Brooks]

Nice angle, line work and reflection

Dave

On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 9:26 AM, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> G'day All,
>
> Another one from Bridgetown, taken during a BBQ breakfast (~160kb)
>
> 
>
> K20D, FA 77mm f1.8, 1/50 @ f5, ISO 100
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> Any & all comments welcome.
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> Cheers,
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Re: Shutter problems? (partially-exposed frames)

[P. J. Alling]

Looks like your mirror got stuck in the down position, which put it out 
of sync with the shutter, (i.e. mirror started up after the shutter had 
already started to close).  What might actually have caused that to 
happen, I couldn't tell you.

Charles Robinson wrote:
> I pulled out the camera on Saturday after a few days (ok, a week) of  
> it sitting around unused and a couple of times when I went to use it  
> the first images came out like this:
>
> http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2008/shutter_probs/IMGP9186.jpg
>
> The camera is in "portrait" orientation rotated to the left, so the  
> stripe of image which is visible is on the "bottom" of the frame.
>
> Seconds later, after turning the camera off/on and wondering what the  
> hell is going on, I get this:
>
> http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2008/shutter_probs/IMGP9187.jpg
>
> ..and it functioned perfectly for the rest of the day and 100+ shots.
>
> Does anyone know what would cause this?  My only thought was that the  
> mirror could have had problems and been getting in the way, but due to  
> the way that an image "flips" on its way to the sensor, doesn't that  
> mean I should only have seen a stripe of exposure on the TOP of the  
> picture, not the bottom?
>
>   -Charles
>
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PESO - After the ride

[Christian]

Yesterday (Sunday) was one degree F below the record high temperature. 
It was 98F, with a 110F heat index (which means humidity was insanely 
high too).  So how did i spend my day?  Why, going for a 100k bike ride 
for charity of course!  The "Tour de Cure" for diabetes research rolled 
through town and a few of us from work set up a team for the 63 mile 
(100k) ride.  The longest ride I'd done before this was 40 miles so I 
thought this would be a nice challenge and for a good cause.

Here's the ol' Trek, resting after a metric century (Shot with the Optio S):

http://links.pictures.aol.com/pic/af70brGLOS2f4K3nV1HBLLFUs7Jh4DTnmbJzv4xQp5Fd3Ig=_l.jpg

http://tinyurl.com/6h79lo

People have been asking "how was it?"

Hot.

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Re: Frank's First Ride

[Steve Desjardins]

Just a great shot with Muted colors, texture and tone.  A hazy childhood
memory.


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Re: Dear Spider

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Jun 9, 2008, at 7:58 AM, mike wilson wrote:
>> After all this time I finally know why my pictures are carp,  
>> thanks
> You should have no problem with carp using the DL.  I'm sure  
> this gives you great solace.
 Certainly, I'd give it a go for the halibut.
>>> Minnow you would.
>> Just find the right perch and your pictures will improve...
> I hope that isn't bass ackwards.


I wonder how long this will go before it flounders.

G


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Re: Dear Spider

[Bob Sullivan]

I smelt that one comming...

On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Jun 9, 2008, at 7:58 AM, mike wilson wrote:
>>> After all this time I finally know why my pictures are carp,
>>> thanks
>> You should have no problem with carp using the DL.  I'm sure
>> this gives you great solace.
> Certainly, I'd give it a go for the halibut.
 Minnow you would.
>>> Just find the right perch and your pictures will improve...
>> I hope that isn't bass ackwards.
>
>
> I wonder how long this will go before it flounders.
>
> G
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Re: Dear Spider

[David Savage]

2008/6/10 Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> On Jun 9, 2008, at 7:58 AM, mike wilson wrote:
 After all this time I finally know why my pictures are carp,
 thanks
>>> You should have no problem with carp using the DL.  I'm sure
>>> this gives you great solace.
>> Certainly, I'd give it a go for the halibut.
> Minnow you would.
 Just find the right perch and your pictures will improve...
>>> I hope that isn't bass ackwards.
>> I wonder how long this will go before it flounders.
>> I smelt that one comming...

Don't be Koi. This carping can carry on for days...

D

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Re: Dear Spider

[caguila]

-Original Message-
>From: David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Jun 9, 2008 11:18 AM
>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>Subject: Re: Dear Spider
>
>2008/6/10 Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Jun 9, 2008, at 7:58 AM, mike wilson wrote:
> After all this time I finally know why my pictures are carp,
> thanks
 You should have no problem with carp using the DL.  I'm sure
 this gives you great solace.
>>> Certainly, I'd give it a go for the halibut.
>> Minnow you would.
> Just find the right perch and your pictures will improve...
 I hope that isn't bass ackwards.
>>> I wonder how long this will go before it flounders.
>>> I smelt that one comming...
>
>Don't be Koi. This carping can carry on for days...

oooh what fun.  i'm eeling in giggles here.

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Re: Talk Dirty to Me

[Christine Aguila]

Hi Paul:  Very nice portrait:  crisp, clear, & dynamic.  Cheers, Christine


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> And I did. She's a local farmer selling her produce and plants at the
> Birmingham Farmer's Market. We talked tomatoes.
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7383043
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Re: Morning Brew

[Christine Aguila]

Hi Dave:  Very striking composition & colors.  How did you get the texture 
for the lower cup image?  Just curious.  Cheers, Christine


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> G'day All,
>
> Another one from Bridgetown, taken during a BBQ breakfast (~160kb)
>
> 
>
> K20D, FA 77mm f1.8, 1/50 @ f5, ISO 100
>
> Any & all comments welcome.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave
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Re: Flamenco Sketches

[Christine Aguila]

Tim:  I find the photos in this GESO excellent, especially 1, 2, & 4--4 
would be my favorite.  Excellent job on the bw rendering too.  I liked these 
very much.  Cheers, Christine


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> At the Kino Cafe in Vancouver, in color and B&W:
> http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2008/06/08/Flamenco-Sketches
>
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Re: GESO - My Picture-A-Week gallery

[Christine Aguila]

John Francis:  Glad your host situation is all sorted out.  Nice photos. 
Cheers, Christine


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>
>http://www.jfwaf.com/PAW/
>
> I haven't posted too many PESOs recently.  That's because the
> site where I host my images was compromised, and I considered
> it to be bad form to post links to an infected site, even though
> we were pretty sure that the exploit was too old to be dangerous
> (and, in any case, it was always possible that the exploit would
> be updated to a more current, and more virulent, variant).
>
> That all seems to be fixed now (the hosting site is now running
> on different hardware, with a newer version of Linux, and with
> several new security features).  It should be safe to visit.
>
> In the meantime I've been enjoying the California springtime,
> and trying out my latest accquisition - the DA* 16-50/f2.8
>
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PESO - 20 miles to go

[Christian]

20 miles from the finish line of the Tour de Cure.

L-R: Me, Peter, Jim, Stephen, Lachlan.  The other half of the team had 
either dropped out at that point or were ahead of us.

http://links.pictures.aol.com/pic/af70brGLOS2f4K3nV1HBLLFUs3U2COwUcF6xv4xQp5Fd3Ig=_l.jpg

http://tinyurl.com/478su7

shot with the Optio S which rode in a back pocket of my jersey, but 
after dousing myself with bottle after bottle of water, I think the 
front element got a little moisture on it, hence the smudge on the left 
side of the image.

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Re: PESO: Morning Brew

[Christian]

David Savage wrote:
> G'day All,
> 
> Another one from Bridgetown, taken during a BBQ breakfast (~160kb)
> 
> 
> 
> K20D, FA 77mm f1.8, 1/50 @ f5, ISO 100
> 
> Any & all comments welcome.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Dave
> 

Lovely graphics.  I really like the tilt too.

Christian

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Re: PESO: Morning Brew

[Bruce Dayton]

I kind of like this one.  Stretching from corner to corner with the
reflection and pattern of the table...nicely seen and done.

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Monday, June 9, 2008, 6:26:45 AM, you wrote:

DS> G'day All,

DS> Another one from Bridgetown, taken during a BBQ breakfast (~160kb)

DS> 

DS> K20D, FA 77mm f1.8, 1/50 @ f5, ISO 100

DS> Any & all comments welcome.

DS> Cheers,

DS> Dave




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Re: PESO - After the ride

[Bruce Dayton]

I can sort of relate.  A few years back I did a ride around Napa
Valley here in California.  We were riding mountain bikes and the
ride was about 55 miles.  The temperature was between 95-100 but
humidity was not so high.  One of the strangest things was about 2/3
way through the ride, the water in my bottles was ambient temperature
(98 degrees) so taking a drink of very warm water did not help cool
you down at all.  That was the biggest problem, cooling down.

Congrats on your ride!

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Monday, June 9, 2008, 8:56:41 AM, you wrote:

C> Yesterday (Sunday) was one degree F below the record high temperature.
C> It was 98F, with a 110F heat index (which means humidity was insanely 
C> high too).  So how did i spend my day?  Why, going for a 100k bike ride
C> for charity of course!  The "Tour de Cure" for diabetes research rolled
C> through town and a few of us from work set up a team for the 63 mile 
C> (100k) ride.  The longest ride I'd done before this was 40 miles so I 
C> thought this would be a nice challenge and for a good cause.

C> Here's the ol' Trek, resting after a metric century (Shot with the Optio S):

C> 
http://links.pictures.aol.com/pic/af70brGLOS2f4K3nV1HBLLFUs7Jh4DTnmbJzv4xQp5Fd3Ig=_l.jpg

C> http://tinyurl.com/6h79lo

C> People have been asking "how was it?"

C> Hot.

C> Christian




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Re: Talk Dirty to Me

[Ken Waller]

Nice capture Paul.

With her being a farmer I'd expect her top to read "Talk Dirt to Me". 

Kenneth Waller
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From: "Paul Stenquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PESO: Talk Dirty to Me


> And I did. She's a local farmer selling her produce and plants at the  
> Birmingham Farmer's Market. We talked tomatoes.
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7383043


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Re: Dear Spider

[Ken Waller]

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dear Spider

> -Original Message-
>>From: David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Subject: Re: Dear Spider
>>
>>2008/6/10 Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>> On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>>> wrote:

 On Jun 9, 2008, at 7:58 AM, mike wilson wrote:
>> After all this time I finally know why my pictures are carp,
>> thanks
> You should have no problem with carp using the DL.  I'm sure
> this gives you great solace.
 Certainly, I'd give it a go for the halibut.
>>> Minnow you would.
>> Just find the right perch and your pictures will improve...
> I hope that isn't bass ackwards.
 I wonder how long this will go before it flounders.
 I smelt that one comming...
>>
>>Don't be Koi. This carping can carry on for days...
>
> oooh what fun.  i'm eeling in giggles here.

Be careful here, we may all have to go back to school.


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Re: Dear Spider

[drew]

mike wilson wrote:

>>>
>> After all this time I finally know why my pictures are carp, thanks
> 
> You should have no problem with carp using the DL.  I'm sure this gives you 
> great solace.
> 

yes, it is quite acceptable for carp 
http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/rileyelf/12082007PentaxIst/photo#5209933959433218690
 


Not sure about shoelaces tho

Drew.





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Re: Talk Dirty to Me

[pnstenquist]

Thanks Christine. BTW, the company, which is the operation of two ladies who 
own a ten acre farm, is called Dirty Girls Farm. Their emphasis is on 
gardening, hence the name. It doesn't hurt that they're both young and 
attractive.
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: "Christine  Aguila" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Hi Paul:  Very nice portrait:  crisp, clear, & dynamic.  Cheers, Christine
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
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> Subject: PESO: Talk Dirty to Me
> 
> 
> > And I did. She's a local farmer selling her produce and plants at the
> > Birmingham Farmer's Market. We talked tomatoes.
> >
> > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7383043
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Re: OT: Classic photos re-enacted in Lego

[Christian]

Charles Robinson wrote:
> This is quite creative.  For fun I tried identifying each of these  
> without clicking on "info" to see which photo they were emulating.  I  
> got most but not all of them.
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/balakov/sets/72157602602191858/show/
> 
>   -Charles
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To funny!  I love the stupid smile they all have...  Vietcong guy 
getting executed and smiling away...  Monk lighting himself on fire... 
and smiling!  HAR!

On youtube there's a whole series of Lego animations with Eddie Izzard's 
comedy.

Christian

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Re: OT: first linux server build

[Christian]

Cory Waters wrote:
> I've been spending some time this weekend reconfiguring an old computer 
> to be a (supposedly) simple home server.  the process is taking a lot 
> longer than I'd hoped.  That's mainly because the computer is pretty 
> slow but also because I've never done this before and I'm a total noob.
> Interesting work but my back is hurting from these chairs...
> 
> CW
> 

My home file/image storage system is Linux.  Of course it was simple to 
set up for me... But I've been doing it for 10 years for a living. :-)

If you need help or resources, this list is better than most!

Christian

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Re: Talk Dirty to Me

[Christine Aguila]

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Subject: Re: Talk Dirty to Me


> Thanks Christine. BTW, the company, which is the operation of two ladies 
> who own a ten acre farm, is called Dirty Girls Farm. Their emphasis is on 
> gardening, hence the name. It doesn't hurt that they're both young and 
> attractive.
> Paul

Hats off to two women with a fearless sense of humor & no doubt fearless 
green thumbs!  Cheers, Christine 



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Re: PESO: Talk Dirty to Me

[Christian]

Paul Stenquist wrote:
> And I did. She's a local farmer selling her produce and plants at the  
> Birmingham Farmer's Market. We talked tomatoes.
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7383043
> 

Pretty girl.. nice light.

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Re: PESO - 20 miles to go

[Christine Aguila]

Christian:  Well done on your trek & your charity!  Cheers, Christine


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Subject: PESO - 20 miles to go


> 20 miles from the finish line of the Tour de Cure.
>
> L-R: Me, Peter, Jim, Stephen, Lachlan.  The other half of the team had
> either dropped out at that point or were ahead of us.
>
> http://links.pictures.aol.com/pic/af70brGLOS2f4K3nV1HBLLFUs3U2COwUcF6xv4xQp5Fd3Ig=_l.jpg
>
> http://tinyurl.com/478su7
>
> shot with the Optio S which rode in a back pocket of my jersey, but
> after dousing myself with bottle after bottle of water, I think the
> front element got a little moisture on it, hence the smudge on the left
> side of the image.
>
> Christian
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Re: Dear Spider

[Mark Roberts]

Ken Waller wrote:
> 
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> From: David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> 2008/6/10 Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
 Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Jun 9, 2008, at 7:58 AM, mike wilson wrote:
>>> After all this time I finally know why my pictures are carp,
>>> thanks
>> You should have no problem with carp using the DL.  I'm sure
>> this gives you great solace.
> Certainly, I'd give it a go for the halibut.
 Minnow you would.
>>> Just find the right perch and your pictures will improve...
>> I hope that isn't bass ackwards.
> I wonder how long this will go before it flounders.
> I smelt that one comming...
>>> Don't be Koi. This carping can carry on for days...
>> oooh what fun.  i'm eeling in giggles here.
> 
> Be careful here, we may all have to go back to school.

Well, that's the appropriate plaice for this kind of thing.

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Re: OT: first linux server build

[Scott Loveless]

Cory Waters wrote:
> I've been spending some time this weekend reconfiguring an old computer 
> to be a (supposedly) simple home server.  the process is taking a lot 
> longer than I'd hoped.  That's mainly because the computer is pretty 
> slow but also because I've never done this before and I'm a total noob.
> Interesting work but my back is hurting from these chairs...
> 
> CW
> 
I'm a perpetual noob when it comes to these things, but I have run Linux 
off and on for the past 8 years or so.  Just out of curiosity, what 
distribution are you using?

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Re: PESO: Talk Dirty to Me

[pnstenquist]

Thanks Christian and Ken.
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> Paul Stenquist wrote:
> > And I did. She's a local farmer selling her produce and plants at the  
> > Birmingham Farmer's Market. We talked tomatoes.
> > 
> > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7383043
> > 
> 
> Pretty girl.. nice light.
> 
> Christian
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Re: PESO: Prairie Country

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 5/29/2008 3:56:24 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at  10:23 AM, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> G'day  All,
>
> I'm slowly making my way through shots from my holiday last  year to
> the US & Canada with the aim of putting together a photo  book.
>
> Here's another one from that trip  (~150kb):
>
>  
>
>  K10D, FA 31mm f1.8, 1/60 @ f16, ISO 100, Lightroomed ;-)
>
> Any  & all comments welcome.
>
> Cheers,
>
>  Dave

=
I really like that A LOT, Dave. Very, very  nice. Almost abstracted, good 
lines, good spacing, well done.

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Re: extension tube question

[Christian]

Cory Waters wrote:
> The el-cheepo extension tubes online are totally dumb. By that I mean 
> they don't have any electrical contacts and whatnot.  With the newer 
> DSLRs and the "crippled" mount or whatever, I would assume one would 
> really want a set of tubes that's "A" compliant.  Maybe I'm wrong about 
> that though since Even the $180 versions that are on B&H's site (on 
> backorder maybe forever) are only K versions.
> 
> So,
> Dos one just buy the cheep-o versions from Ebay, use lenses with 
> aperture rings, and use the "green button" method?


I bought a set of Vivitar's from ebay that had all the electrical 
contacts including AF when I had an *ist D.  since there are no optical 
elements in the tubes, I wasn't concerned about brand.

Christian

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Re: Dear Spider

[Ken Waller]

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dear Spider
> Ken Waller wrote:
>> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 From: David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 2008/6/10 Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Jun 9, 2008, at 7:58 AM, mike wilson wrote:
 After all this time I finally know why my pictures are carp,
 thanks
>>> You should have no problem with carp using the DL.  I'm sure
>>> this gives you great solace.
>> Certainly, I'd give it a go for the halibut.
> Minnow you would.
 Just find the right perch and your pictures will improve...
>>> I hope that isn't bass ackwards.
>> I wonder how long this will go before it flounders.
>> I smelt that one comming...
 Don't be Koi. This carping can carry on for days...
>>> oooh what fun.  i'm eeling in giggles here.
>>
>> Be careful here, we may all have to go back to school.
>
> Well, that's the appropriate plaice for this kind of thing.

Looking that word up in the dictionary could make one crabby. Is this the 
PLACE for it?


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Re: Dear Spider

[Christine Aguila]

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Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: Dear Spider


>
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Mark Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Dear Spider
>> Ken Waller wrote:
>>> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> From: David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 2008/6/10 Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> On Jun 9, 2008, at 7:58 AM, mike wilson wrote:
> After all this time I finally know why my pictures are carp,
> thanks
 You should have no problem with carp using the DL.  I'm sure
 this gives you great solace.
>>> Certainly, I'd give it a go for the halibut.
>> Minnow you would.
> Just find the right perch and your pictures will improve...
 I hope that isn't bass ackwards.
>>> I wonder how long this will go before it flounders.
>>> I smelt that one comming...
> Don't be Koi. This carping can carry on for days...
 oooh what fun.  i'm eeling in giggles here.
>>>
>>> Be careful here, we may all have to go back to school.
>>
>> Well, that's the appropriate plaice for this kind of thing.
>
> Looking that word up in the dictionary could make one crabby. Is this the
> PLACE for it?

I find the sub-marine life here well schooled. 



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PESO - Random rider

[Christian]

A little theriaultian tilt (but not enough blur) in my homage to frank. 
from Sunday's 100k:

http://links.pictures.aol.com/pic/af70brGLOS2f4K3nV1HBLLFUs3FAIaePtOz*v4xQp5Fd3Ig=_l.jpg

http://tinyurl.com/3uwpk6

Last one for a while...  promise.

Christian

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Re: How often do you use a tripod? (Was: Re: Tripod Q)

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In a message dated 6/6/2008 7:36:04 P.M. Pacific  Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This tripod discussion has been  very interesting, but
the question arises:

How often are people  =using= their tripods these days?

I have found that since getting the  K10D with its
anti-shake, I rarely use one; and it's really nice to
leave  that 3-5 lbs (1.5-2.5 kg, if you prefer) of gear
and the set-up fuss  behind.

Rick

===
Extremely rarely. But I am not doing  macro flower shots or anything.

I find I use it mainly now to take  pictures of my junk to sell on ebay (i.e. 
"product shots") heh.

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SDM technology & lenses

[gldnbearz]

Can someone educate me on the SDM enabled lenses? Am I correct in
understanding that the AF is engaged only if you use the lens with an
SDM enabled body?  Otherwise the lens if MF only?

SO is a bad influence/enabler... I'm being "encouraged" to upgrade
from the istDS to a K200 +/- 50-135 lens, so I'm checking to see what
ramifications might be.  Not that I *need* the 50-135 when I have the
really nice 16-45 and just got the 50-200 this month.

Pat, lurker

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Re: SDM technology & lenses

[John Francis]

On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 12:37:24PM -0700, gldnbearz wrote:
> Can someone educate me on the SDM enabled lenses? Am I correct in
> understanding that the AF is engaged only if you use the lens with an
> SDM enabled body?  Otherwise the lens if MF only?

No.  Some of the SDM lenses (the DA* 16-50 and 50-135, at least) also
have screwdriver AF, so they will work with older AF bodies.  I can use
my 16-50 on my *ist-D, and could use it on my PZ-1p (with vignetting).

The only SDM lens I know of that is SDM-only (thus requiring a K10D,
K20D or K200D) is the 17-70 lens.  Note that that actually has "SDM"
in the name of the lens.  I assume many (if not all) new lenses will
be SDM-only.

> SO is a bad influence/enabler... I'm being "encouraged" to upgrade
> from the istDS to a K200 +/- 50-135 lens, so I'm checking to see what
> ramifications might be.  Not that I *need* the 50-135 when I have the
> really nice 16-45 and just got the 50-200 this month.
> 
> Pat, lurker
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Re: OT: first linux server build

[Cory Waters]

Scott Loveless wrote:
> Cory Waters wrote:
>   
>> I've been spending some time this weekend reconfiguring an old computer 
>> to be a (supposedly) simple home server.  the process is taking a lot 
>> longer than I'd hoped.  That's mainly because the computer is pretty 
>> slow but also because I've never done this before and I'm a total noob.
>> Interesting work but my back is hurting from these chairs...
>>
>> CW
>>
>> 
> I'm a perpetual noob when it comes to these things, but I have run Linux 
> off and on for the past 8 years or so.  Just out of curiosity, what 
> distribution are you using?
>
>   
> 

I found a step-by step from a guy who built a headless file, FTP, P2P 
server using an old PC and the Xubuntu distribution.  It turns out there 
are a lot of holes in his example.  Some of that is because of my 
immense dearth of knowledge in this area and some of it is my newer 
version of the software.  It's running, but the computer is REALLY 
slow...The CPU is averaging 100%.  Don't know if something is eating up 
all the cycles or if the CPU is just that old.  It's an old AMD of some 
sort.   And honestly I don't know if it's really working as a server or 
not yet let alone controlling it from another location or whatever..  I 
have a lot of questions... But I'm off to Minn-e-so-ta for a couple days 
of training on the Yamaha PM5D so I can't really mess with it at the moment.

CW
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Re: SDM technology & lenses

[P. J. Alling]

I don't own any SDM lenses however from what I know only one SDM lens 
needs an SDM enabled body to autofocus, the new 17-70mm f4.0.  All other 
SDM lenses, up till now, also support the screwdriver drive used on the 
*ist-D[x] and K100 bodies. 

gldnbearz wrote:
> Can someone educate me on the SDM enabled lenses? Am I correct in
> understanding that the AF is engaged only if you use the lens with an
> SDM enabled body?  Otherwise the lens if MF only?
>
> SO is a bad influence/enabler... I'm being "encouraged" to upgrade
> from the istDS to a K200 +/- 50-135 lens, so I'm checking to see what
> ramifications might be.  Not that I *need* the 50-135 when I have the
> really nice 16-45 and just got the 50-200 this month.
>
> Pat, lurker
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Re: What Casey did during GFM

[gldnbearz]

Congrats to your niece. A new chapter in life starts now.

Pat, lurker

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> My niece Casey graduated from High School on GFM Weekend.
> And I can prove it.

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Re: PESO - Random rider

[frank theriault]

On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A little theriaultian tilt (but not enough blur) in my homage to frank.
> from Sunday's 100k:
>
> http://links.pictures.aol.com/pic/af70brGLOS2f4K3nV1HBLLFUs3FAIaePtOz*v4xQp5Fd3Ig=_l.jpg
>
> http://tinyurl.com/3uwpk6
>
> Last one for a while...  promise.

It doesn't look tilted to me!

;-)

Nice photo, Christian.  Really nice conversion - nice and contrasty.

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Re: SDM technology & lenses

[gldnbearz]

Thanks for the responses.  It seem like there is no reason there not
to "upgrade" - although I'm still looking for good excuses...

On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 12:44 PM, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't own any SDM lenses however from what I know only one SDM lens
> needs an SDM enabled body to autofocus, the new 17-70mm f4.0.  All other
> SDM lenses, up till now, also support the screwdriver drive used on the
> *ist-D[x] and K100 bodies.

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Re: PESO - 20 miles to go

[frank theriault]

On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 12:56 PM, Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 20 miles from the finish line of the Tour de Cure.
>
> L-R: Me, Peter, Jim, Stephen, Lachlan.  The other half of the team had
> either dropped out at that point or were ahead of us.
>
> http://links.pictures.aol.com/pic/af70brGLOS2f4K3nV1HBLLFUs3U2COwUcF6xv4xQp5Fd3Ig=_l.jpg
>
> http://tinyurl.com/478su7
>
> shot with the Optio S which rode in a back pocket of my jersey, but
> after dousing myself with bottle after bottle of water, I think the
> front element got a little moisture on it, hence the smudge on the left
> side of the image.
>

I don't understand:  20 miles to go, yet you're not on your bike,
riding.  What gives, slacker?!?

;-)

Actually, it's a nice photo, a wonderful keepsake of the event.  Cool
jerseys (despite the sponsorship).

cheers,
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Re: GESO - My Picture-A-Week gallery

[gldnbearz]

Nice kitties.  How did they manage to all stay in the basket at the same time?

On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 10:09 PM, John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>http://www.jfwaf.com/PAW/

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Re: SDM technology & lenses

[Bruce Dayton]

The DA* 16-50 and DA* 50-135 autofocus on both my K10D using SDM or
my *istD using the old screwdriver method.

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Monday, June 9, 2008, 12:37:24 PM, you wrote:

g> Can someone educate me on the SDM enabled lenses? Am I correct in
g> understanding that the AF is engaged only if you use the lens with an
g> SDM enabled body?  Otherwise the lens if MF only?

g> SO is a bad influence/enabler... I'm being "encouraged" to upgrade
g> from the istDS to a K200 +/- 50-135 lens, so I'm checking to see what
g> ramifications might be.  Not that I *need* the 50-135 when I have the
g> really nice 16-45 and just got the 50-200 this month.

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Re: PESO - After the ride

[frank theriault]

On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yesterday (Sunday) was one degree F below the record high temperature.
> It was 98F, with a 110F heat index (which means humidity was insanely
> high too).  So how did i spend my day?  Why, going for a 100k bike ride
> for charity of course!  The "Tour de Cure" for diabetes research rolled
> through town and a few of us from work set up a team for the 63 mile
> (100k) ride.  The longest ride I'd done before this was 40 miles so I
> thought this would be a nice challenge and for a good cause.
>
> Here's the ol' Trek, resting after a metric century (Shot with the Optio S):
>
> http://links.pictures.aol.com/pic/af70brGLOS2f4K3nV1HBLLFUs7Jh4DTnmbJzv4xQp5Fd3Ig=_l.jpg
>
> http://tinyurl.com/6h79lo
>
> People have been asking "how was it?"
>
> Hot.

I love this photo.  Terrific, moody shot.  Wonderful conversion.

Glad you got through the heat.  Hydration is so essential on days like that!

cheers,
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49mm to 52mm step-down ring - trade?

[Rebekah]

Anyone got an extra 52mm to 49mm step down ring they are willing to
trade for a batch of homemade cookies? It's all I've got to offer :)

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Re: Frank's First Ride

[frank theriault]

On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Steve Desjardins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Just a great shot with Muted colors, texture and tone.  A hazy childhood
> memory.

What he said.  Terrific (if somewhat disquieting) shot.

I wonder where my first ride really is?

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Re: How often do you use a tripod? (Was: Re: Tripod Q)

[Fernando]

What if you want to sell your tripod? ;-)

On 6/9/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> the question arises:
>
> How often are people  =using= their tripods these days?
>
> I have found that since getting the  K10D with its
> anti-shake, I rarely use one; and it's really nice to
> leave  that 3-5 lbs (1.5-2.5 kg, if you prefer) of gear
> and the set-up fuss  behind.
>
> Rick
>
> ===
> Extremely rarely. But I am not doing  macro flower shots or anything.
>
> I find I use it mainly now to take  pictures of my junk to sell on ebay (i.e.
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GFM: anoth group shot

[Cory Waters]

Ever have one of those moments when you know you should be doing 
something else but you're messing around online/reading 
emails/forwarding messages/ uploading pictures...etc.?
I'm supposed to be on an air-e-o plane here in a couple hours and I'm 
uploading another of Helen's pictures from GFM for you viewing 
pleasure.  I should be packing...
Notable additions from the last group shot:  The Sullivans & The Don 
himself.
Doesn't Mark look like he just knows this picture is going to be 
underexposed because it's being shot with a Nikon?
http://cwaters.smugmug.com/gallery/5104250_EzeiV#310143036_ykY6S-XL-LB

CW

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Re: OT: first linux server build

[John Francis]

On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 03:46:57PM -0400, Cory Waters wrote:
> Scott Loveless wrote:
> > Cory Waters wrote:
> >   
> >> I've been spending some time this weekend reconfiguring an old computer 
> >> to be a (supposedly) simple home server.  the process is taking a lot 
> >> longer than I'd hoped.  That's mainly because the computer is pretty 
> >> slow but also because I've never done this before and I'm a total noob.
> >> Interesting work but my back is hurting from these chairs...
> >>
> >> CW
> >>
> >> 
> > I'm a perpetual noob when it comes to these things, but I have run Linux 
> > off and on for the past 8 years or so.  Just out of curiosity, what 
> > distribution are you using?
> >
> >   
> > 
> 
> I found a step-by step from a guy who built a headless file, FTP, P2P 
> server using an old PC and the Xubuntu distribution.  It turns out there 
> are a lot of holes in his example.  Some of that is because of my 
> immense dearth of knowledge in this area and some of it is my newer 
> version of the software.  It's running, but the computer is REALLY 
> slow...The CPU is averaging 100%.  Don't know if something is eating up 
> all the cycles or if the CPU is just that old.  It's an old AMD of some 
> sort.   And honestly I don't know if it's really working as a server or 
> not yet let alone controlling it from another location or whatever..  I 
> have a lot of questions... But I'm off to Minn-e-so-ta for a couple days 
> of training on the Yamaha PM5D so I can't really mess with it at the moment.
> 
> CW
> the Linux lummox

Something is eating the cycles.  As long as you've got a halfway decent
CPU (an 800MHz pentium is more than sufficient) and 256MB of memory you
have more than enough power for a useful Linux system.


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Re: PDML Mugshot

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 6/6/2008 3:57:22 P.M. Pacific  Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Here's a photo from  GFM:
http://cwaters.smugmug.com/gallery/5104250_EzeiV#307974702_KYGex-XL-LB
I  should have a gallery up this weekend.
CW



Nice  shot! Good to see people. Think Scott is the only one in that photo 
that I  haven't met.

Thanks for sharing.

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Re: PESO - Random rider

[Christian]

frank theriault wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> A little theriaultian tilt (but not enough blur) in my homage to frank.
>> from Sunday's 100k:
>>
>> http://links.pictures.aol.com/pic/af70brGLOS2f4K3nV1HBLLFUs3FAIaePtOz*v4xQp5Fd3Ig=_l.jpg
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/3uwpk6
>>
>> Last one for a while...  promise.
> 
> It doesn't look tilted to me!

Of course not...

> 
> ;-)
> 
> Nice photo, Christian.  Really nice conversion - nice and contrasty.
> 

Thanks frank.  I was worried about the conversion and wondered if it was 
too dark.  Doing one-handed shooting was kinda fun.  And it helped me 
with my coordination as well as I was removing and replacing the the 
camera in my back pocket.  Still a novice when it comes to group riding, 
i was a little overwhelmed riding with so many people.

Christian


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Re: OT: first linux server build

[mike wilson]

> 
> From: Cory Waters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> But I'm off to Minn-e-so-ta for a couple days 
> of training on the Yamaha PM5D so I can't really mess with it at the moment.
> 

Nail the throttle, drop the clutch and change up when you hit the revlimiter.

You have some spare time now.


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Re: PESO - After the ride

[Christian]

Bruce Dayton wrote:
> I can sort of relate.   One of the strangest things was about 2/3
> way through the ride, the water in my bottles was ambient temperature
> (98 degrees) so taking a drink of very warm water did not help cool
> you down at all.  

I hear ya. I dumped a bottle of warm water on my head during the last 
20k.  It just kinda felt...  well, crappy.  no relief at all.  Drinking 
warm water is no fun either...  And both my bottles are insulated and 
filled with ice water at the support stops!

> 
> Congrats on your ride!
> 

Thanks, Bruce!

Christian

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Re: GFM: anoth group shot

[frank theriault]

On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 4:12 PM, Cory Waters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ever have one of those moments when you know you should be doing
> something else but you're messing around online/reading
> emails/forwarding messages/ uploading pictures...etc.?
> I'm supposed to be on an air-e-o plane here in a couple hours and I'm
> uploading another of Helen's pictures from GFM for you viewing
> pleasure.  I should be packing...
> Notable additions from the last group shot:  The Sullivans & The Don
> himself.
> Doesn't Mark look like he just knows this picture is going to be
> underexposed because it's being shot with a Nikon?
> http://cwaters.smugmug.com/gallery/5104250_EzeiV#310143036_ykY6S-XL-LB

Mark looks like that once the beer runs out.  Must have been taken
Sunday morning...

Fun shot!

cheers,
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Re: OT: first linux server build

[drew]

John Francis wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 03:46:57PM -0400, Cory Waters wrote:
>> Scott Loveless wrote:
>>> Cory Waters wrote:
>>>   
 I've been spending some time this weekend reconfiguring an old computer 
 to be a (supposedly) simple home server.  the process is taking a lot 
 longer than I'd hoped.  That's mainly because the computer is pretty 
 slow but also because I've never done this before and I'm a total noob.
 Interesting work but my back is hurting from these chairs...

 CW

 
>>> I'm a perpetual noob when it comes to these things, but I have run Linux 
>>> off and on for the past 8 years or so.  Just out of curiosity, what 
>>> distribution are you using?
>>>
>>>   
>>> 
>> I found a step-by step from a guy who built a headless file, FTP, P2P 
>> server using an old PC and the Xubuntu distribution.  It turns out there 
>> are a lot of holes in his example.  Some of that is because of my 
>> immense dearth of knowledge in this area and some of it is my newer 
>> version of the software.  It's running, but the computer is REALLY 
>> slow...The CPU is averaging 100%.  Don't know if something is eating up 
>> all the cycles or if the CPU is just that old.  It's an old AMD of some 
>> sort.   And honestly I don't know if it's really working as a server or 
>> not yet let alone controlling it from another location or whatever..  I 
>> have a lot of questions... But I'm off to Minn-e-so-ta for a couple days 
>> of training on the Yamaha PM5D so I can't really mess with it at the moment.
>>
>> CW
>> the Linux lummox
> 
> Something is eating the cycles.  As long as you've got a halfway decent
> CPU (an 800MHz pentium is more than sufficient) and 256MB of memory you
> have more than enough power for a useful Linux system.
> 
> 

I would concur, I had a dual Pentium Pro 200 with 256Mb, It was quite 
happy serving my website, email, Unreal Tournament and file server for 
the home... never really topped more than 60% load.

Drew.



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Re: PESO - After the ride

[Christian]

frank theriault wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Yesterday (Sunday) was one degree F below the record high temperature.
>> It was 98F, with a 110F heat index (which means humidity was insanely
>> high too).  So how did i spend my day?  Why, going for a 100k bike ride
>> for charity of course!  The "Tour de Cure" for diabetes research rolled
>> through town and a few of us from work set up a team for the 63 mile
>> (100k) ride.  The longest ride I'd done before this was 40 miles so I
>> thought this would be a nice challenge and for a good cause.
>>
>> Here's the ol' Trek, resting after a metric century (Shot with the Optio S):
>>
>> http://links.pictures.aol.com/pic/af70brGLOS2f4K3nV1HBLLFUs7Jh4DTnmbJzv4xQp5Fd3Ig=_l.jpg
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/6h79lo
>>
>> People have been asking "how was it?"
>>
>> Hot.
> 
> I love this photo.  Terrific, moody shot.  Wonderful conversion.

Thanks a ton for that, frank.  It means a lot.
> 
> Glad you got through the heat.  Hydration is so essential on days like that!

I did pretty well and felt pretty darn good at the finish.  The last 30k 
were brutal.  I had to replace the front tube with 20k to go and ended 
up with a slow leak on the rear that needed air twice in the last 15k. 
One of my co-worker/teammates described it as riding in a pizza oven.

Christian


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Re: PESO - 20 miles to go

[Christian]

thanks, Christina err Christine (I know who you really are ;-) )

Christian

Christine Aguila wrote:
> Christian:  Well done on your trek & your charity!  Cheers, Christine
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Christian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 11:56 AM
> Subject: PESO - 20 miles to go
> 
> 
>> 20 miles from the finish line of the Tour de Cure.
>>
>> L-R: Me, Peter, Jim, Stephen, Lachlan.  The other half of the team had
>> either dropped out at that point or were ahead of us.
>>
>> http://links.pictures.aol.com/pic/af70brGLOS2f4K3nV1HBLLFUs3U2COwUcF6xv4xQp5Fd3Ig=_l.jpg
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/478su7
>>
>> shot with the Optio S which rode in a back pocket of my jersey, but
>> after dousing myself with bottle after bottle of water, I think the
>> front element got a little moisture on it, hence the smudge on the left
>> side of the image.
>>
>> Christian
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Re: OT: first linux server build

[Cory Waters]

I never really knew much about AMD offerings.  This one is a K6 3D and 
there's 309MB of memory (!)

CW


drew wrote:
> John Francis wrote:
>   
>> On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 03:46:57PM -0400, Cory Waters wrote:
>> 
>>> Scott Loveless wrote:
>>>   
 Cory Waters wrote:
   
 
> I've been spending some time this weekend reconfiguring an old computer 
> to be a (supposedly) simple home server.  the process is taking a lot 
> longer than I'd hoped.  That's mainly because the computer is pretty 
> slow but also because I've never done this before and I'm a total noob.
> Interesting work but my back is hurting from these chairs...
>
> CW
>
> 
>   
 I'm a perpetual noob when it comes to these things, but I have run Linux 
 off and on for the past 8 years or so.  Just out of curiosity, what 
 distribution are you using?

   
 
 
>>> I found a step-by step from a guy who built a headless file, FTP, P2P 
>>> server using an old PC and the Xubuntu distribution.  It turns out there 
>>> are a lot of holes in his example.  Some of that is because of my 
>>> immense dearth of knowledge in this area and some of it is my newer 
>>> version of the software.  It's running, but the computer is REALLY 
>>> slow...The CPU is averaging 100%.  Don't know if something is eating up 
>>> all the cycles or if the CPU is just that old.  It's an old AMD of some 
>>> sort.   And honestly I don't know if it's really working as a server or 
>>> not yet let alone controlling it from another location or whatever..  I 
>>> have a lot of questions... But I'm off to Minn-e-so-ta for a couple days 
>>> of training on the Yamaha PM5D so I can't really mess with it at the moment.
>>>
>>> CW
>>> the Linux lummox
>>>   
>> Something is eating the cycles.  As long as you've got a halfway decent
>> CPU (an 800MHz pentium is more than sufficient) and 256MB of memory you
>> have more than enough power for a useful Linux system.
>>
>>
>> 
>
> I would concur, I had a dual Pentium Pro 200 with 256Mb, It was quite 
> happy serving my website, email, Unreal Tournament and file server for 
> the home... never really topped more than 60% load.
>
> Drew.
>
>
>
>   
> 
>
>
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Re: PESO - 20 miles to go

[Christian]

frank theriault wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 12:56 PM, Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 20 miles from the finish line of the Tour de Cure.
>>
>> L-R: Me, Peter, Jim, Stephen, Lachlan.  The other half of the team had
>> either dropped out at that point or were ahead of us.
>>
>> http://links.pictures.aol.com/pic/af70brGLOS2f4K3nV1HBLLFUs3U2COwUcF6xv4xQp5Fd3Ig=_l.jpg
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/478su7
>>
>> shot with the Optio S which rode in a back pocket of my jersey, but
>> after dousing myself with bottle after bottle of water, I think the
>> front element got a little moisture on it, hence the smudge on the left
>> side of the image.
>>
> 
> I don't understand:  20 miles to go, yet you're not on your bike,
> riding.  What gives, slacker?!?

I was bloody hot!  Actually it was after this that the heat really 
sucked all the energy out of me!

> 
> ;-)
> 
> Actually, it's a nice photo, a wonderful keepsake of the event.  Cool
> jerseys (despite the sponsorship).

HA!  Thanks.  Hey they still pay me and I got a cool jersey out of it 
which may very well end up being my severance... :-)

Christian


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Re: GFM: anoth group shot

[Mark Roberts]

Cory Waters wrote:

> Doesn't Mark look like he just knows this picture is going to be 
> underexposed because it's being shot with a Nikon?
> http://cwaters.smugmug.com/gallery/5104250_EzeiV#310143036_ykY6S-XL-LB

 From the look on my face I must have known how the automatic white 
balance on that Nikon was going to come out ;-)


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Re: PESO - After the ride

[frank theriault]

On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 4:28 PM, Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I did pretty well and felt pretty darn good at the finish.  The last 30k
> were brutal.  I had to replace the front tube with 20k to go and ended
> up with a slow leak on the rear that needed air twice in the last 15k.
> One of my co-worker/teammates described it as riding in a pizza oven.

I was late getting to work today (job interview, but don't tell my
current employer).  Rode about 25km in 33C heat, with a humidex of
42C.  I believe that 37C is the equivalent of 100f, so that gives you
an idea.  Add to that the fact that I was riding directly into a
50km/h headwind (gusts to 60km/h) and you'll understand that I can
commiserate with you on the weekend.

We can be a tough lot, us cyclists!

cheers,
frank



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Re: How often do you use a tripod? (Was: Re: Tripod Q)

[frank theriault]

On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 10:35 PM, Rick Womer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This tripod discussion has been very interesting, but
> the question arises:
>
> How often are people =using= their tripods these days?
>
> I have found that since getting the K10D with its
> anti-shake, I rarely use one; and it's really nice to
> leave that 3-5 lbs (1.5-2.5 kg, if you prefer) of gear
> and the set-up fuss behind.
>

I don't actually own a tripod...

cheers,
frank

ps:  however, I do own a monopod, which I rarely use, certainly no
more than once a year


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Re: PESO - After the ride

[Christian]

frank theriault wrote:
> 
> I was late getting to work today (job interview, but don't tell my
> current employer).  Rode about 25km in 33C heat, with a humidex of
> 42C.  I believe that 37C is the equivalent of 100f, so that gives you
> an idea.  

Ok a quick google conversion... 33 = 91, 42 = 107.. Holy crap it must be 
humid as hell there!  (hmmm is hell humid or would it be a dry heat...).

> Add to that the fact that I was riding directly into a
> 50km/h headwind (gusts to 60km/h) and you'll understand that I can
> commiserate with you on the weekend.

I was doing it for "fun" and charity.  for you it's a mode of 
transportation.

> We can be a tough lot, us cyclists!

And we look good doing it!

Christian


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Re: PESO - After the ride

[frank theriault]

On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 4:53 PM, Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Ok a quick google conversion... 33 = 91, 42 = 107.. Holy crap it must be
> humid as hell there!  (hmmm is hell humid or would it be a dry heat...).

Actually, it's now raining, but the humidity (in the rain) is currently 74%.

> I was doing it for "fun" and charity.  for you it's a mode of
> transportation.

Hey, it's still fun for me.  I'm glad to have a long commute each day.
 If I get this job I just interviewed for, my commute by bike will
drop from about 50 minutes each way to about 12 to 15 minutes - I
think I'll be putting on a few pounds.  Mind you, I can still "take
the long way home" and get a few miles in...
>
>> We can be a tough lot, us cyclists!
>
> And we look good doing it!

Speak for yourself!

;-)

cheers,
frank

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Re: PESO - After the ride

[pnstenquist]

Excellent shot. Beautifully rendered in BW.
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> frank theriault wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Yesterday (Sunday) was one degree F below the record high temperature.
> >> It was 98F, with a 110F heat index (which means humidity was insanely
> >> high too).  So how did i spend my day?  Why, going for a 100k bike ride
> >> for charity of course!  The "Tour de Cure" for diabetes research rolled
> >> through town and a few of us from work set up a team for the 63 mile
> >> (100k) ride.  The longest ride I'd done before this was 40 miles so I
> >> thought this would be a nice challenge and for a good cause.
> >>
> >> Here's the ol' Trek, resting after a metric century (Shot with the Optio 
> >> S):
> >>
> >> 
> http://links.pictures.aol.com/pic/af70brGLOS2f4K3nV1HBLLFUs7Jh4DTnmbJzv4xQp5Fd3I
> g=_l.jpg
> >>
> >> http://tinyurl.com/6h79lo
> >>
> >> People have been asking "how was it?"
> >>
> >> Hot.
> > 
> > I love this photo.  Terrific, moody shot.  Wonderful conversion.
> 
> Thanks a ton for that, frank.  It means a lot.
> > 
> > Glad you got through the heat.  Hydration is so essential on days like that!
> 
> I did pretty well and felt pretty darn good at the finish.  The last 30k 
> were brutal.  I had to replace the front tube with 20k to go and ended 
> up with a slow leak on the rear that needed air twice in the last 15k. 
> One of my co-worker/teammates described it as riding in a pizza oven.
> 
> Christian
> 
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Re: PESO - After the ride

[Christian]

frank theriault wrote:
> 
> Hey, it's still fun for me.  I'm glad to have a long commute each day.
>  If I get this job I just interviewed for, my commute by bike will
> drop from about 50 minutes each way to about 12 to 15 minutes - I
> think I'll be putting on a few pounds.  Mind you, I can still "take
> the long way home" and get a few miles in...

I'm in the process of getting my house sold and moving to within 30k of 
the office; with a paved bike trail for most of it.  I can't wait to 
bike commute regularly - for the fuel savings as well as the fitness.

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Re: PESO - After the ride

[Christian]

Thanks, Paul!

Christian

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Excellent shot. Beautifully rendered in BW.
> Paul
>  -- Original message --
> From: Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> frank theriault wrote:
>>> On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 Yesterday (Sunday) was one degree F below the record high temperature.
 It was 98F, with a 110F heat index (which means humidity was insanely
 high too).  So how did i spend my day?  Why, going for a 100k bike ride
 for charity of course!  The "Tour de Cure" for diabetes research rolled
 through town and a few of us from work set up a team for the 63 mile
 (100k) ride.  The longest ride I'd done before this was 40 miles so I
 thought this would be a nice challenge and for a good cause.

 Here's the ol' Trek, resting after a metric century (Shot with the Optio 
 S):


>> http://links.pictures.aol.com/pic/af70brGLOS2f4K3nV1HBLLFUs7Jh4DTnmbJzv4xQp5Fd3I
>> g=_l.jpg
 http://tinyurl.com/6h79lo

 People have been asking "how was it?"

 Hot.
>>> I love this photo.  Terrific, moody shot.  Wonderful conversion.
>> Thanks a ton for that, frank.  It means a lot.
>>> Glad you got through the heat.  Hydration is so essential on days like that!
>> I did pretty well and felt pretty darn good at the finish.  The last 30k 
>> were brutal.  I had to replace the front tube with 20k to go and ended 
>> up with a slow leak on the rear that needed air twice in the last 15k. 
>> One of my co-worker/teammates described it as riding in a pizza oven.
>>
>> Christian
>>
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Dear Spider ...

[D. Glenn Arthur Jr.]

Dear Bedroom Spider,

What are you doing on the floor instead of the ceiling?  Don't 
you realize you could get stepped on there, or attract the 
attention of Perrine, my cat?  Here, let me 'rescue' you with 
this small jar, as suggested by Godfrey DiGiorgi.  And what 
sort of host would I be if I did not offer you some relief from 
this oppressive heat (308K / 35C / 95F ; 41% humidity)?  I've
got this one special room, a little too small for me to fit 
into myself, that is much cooler than the rest of the house.
You should be comfortable there for a little while.

Now let me get the big flashy thing ready ...

-- The Biped


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