OT: 3D Sketch (What bored draftsman/tinkerer/photographer gets up too)

[David Savage]

G'day All,

In about August/Sept. of '06 we were all abuzz about the upcoming
K10D. Much speculation, and for those who were privy to the "leaked"
press release, "nudge, nudge, wink, wink" amusement.

With news of it's impeding release, and me being a tinkerer/pano geek,
I started to think about a new L bracket. I liked the idea of the Kirk
style L brackets, but I have Manfrotto equipment. So being a drafty &
having free boring winters afternoon, I modelled what I would ideally
liked to have made: (~8MB)



I didn't have access to the machine tools I needed to make a prototype
(I also didn't have the camera). What I eventually made works but
wasn't as compact or sexy looking, but was easy to fabricate with hand
tools..

Up until today I though I had lost this CAD model, after last years HD
failure. But I was clearing out my work computers back-up folder and
found it, & thought I'd share.

Cheers,

Dave

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Re: Why to buy a K20D?

[pnstenquist]

BTW, you can turn off high ISO noise reduction. You just can't turn off long 
exposure noise reduction, but you can set it to "auto" where it will remain off 
if excessive heat buildup isn't indicated. 

But for me the performance is what counts. And the camera performs better than 
any other Pentax offering, and, according to Adam, on a par with the Nikon D300.
Paul
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> With 8000 frames on the K20D I'm sure it's less noisy thatn the K10D at any 
> ISO 
> above 400. In fact, 1600 is comparable to about 600 on the K10. And the K10D 
> doesn't shoot 6400. It wouldn't dare:-).
> Paul
>  -- Original message --
> From: "David Savage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > 2008/6/30 Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > No, it's not the result of image processing you could apply in
> > > PhotoShop. I shoot only RAW. The RAW data is far superior. It's
> > > apparently the result of a sensor that generates less heat at high
> > > ISO than the K10D sensor.
> > 
> > I'm not too sure about this.
> > 
> > The inability to fully disable NR & some ISO 6400 shots I've taken
> > that display heat patterns, leads me believe that the sensor isn't as
> > noise free as many think.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > Dave
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Re: PESO -- Old Friends

[pnstenquist]

Nice shot. Well seen.
Paul
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> Says it all.
> 
> http://www.mindspring.com/~distilfink/PESO%20--%20oldfriends.html
> 
> Equipment:  Pentax *ist-Ds/smc Pentax FA 43mm f1.9 Limited.
> 
> As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.
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PESO -- Old Friends

[P. J. Alling]

Says it all.

http://www.mindspring.com/~distilfink/PESO%20--%20oldfriends.html

Equipment:  Pentax *ist-Ds/smc Pentax FA 43mm f1.9 Limited.

As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.

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Re: PESO: The PDML bird

[Tim Øsleby]

Yep. A typical PDML meeting. I'm not sure, but I think Frank is one of
the blurry ones at LHS, the one at the top is probably Mark.

2008/7/1 P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> It looks like a typical PDML meeting...
>
> Tim Øsleby wrote:
>> This was a hard shot to get. From a boat trip around Runde.
>> A hit and miss situation,
>>
>> Ok. Enough disclaimer, here it is, The official PDML bird..
>> http://www.diskusjon.no/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=238970
>>
>>
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Re: PESO: A Puff of fresh air.

[Tim Øsleby]

Thank you Christian. I'll throw up another in a day or two, just to
make you more jealous.

2008/7/1 Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Tim Øsleby wrote:
>> Three Pentaxians and a Nikonian at Runde http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runde
>> Me and Jostein had a great time at the cliffs.
>>
>> I'm still soriting pictures. Thenk I've got a PDML bird or two to
>> show, but I need some more time to pick the right file. Here's a warm
>> up picture.
>> http://www.diskusjon.no/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=238917
>> Slightly cropped and LR tweaked. Handhelp with K20D and DA* 300/4
>>
>
> THAT is a beautiful puffin portrait, Tim.  I'm so freaking jealous.
>  I have to travel pretty far for just a chance of a glimpse of a
> puffin.  Love those birds...
>
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Re: PESO: A Puff of fresh air.

[Tim Øsleby]

Thank you PJ

2008/7/1 P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Tim Øsleby wrote:
>> Three Pentaxians and a Nikonian at Runde http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runde
>> Me and Jostein had a great time at the cliffs.
>>
>> I'm still soriting pictures. Thenk I've got a PDML bird or two to
>> show, but I need some more time to pick the right file. Here's a warm
>> up picture.
>> http://www.diskusjon.no/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=238917
>> Slightly cropped and LR tweaked. Handhelp with K20D and DA* 300/4
>>
>>
> Nicely done.
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Re: PESO: A Puff of fresh air.

[Tim Øsleby]

Thank you Paul
I used 300/4, left the 500 at home this time.

2008/7/1  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Cool bird. Looks like he could be a relative of mine.  Shot with your 500?
> Paul
>  -- Original message --
> From: Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Tim Øsleby wrote:
>> > Three Pentaxians and a Nikonian at Runde http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runde
>> > Me and Jostein had a great time at the cliffs.
>> >
>> > I'm still soriting pictures. Thenk I've got a PDML bird or two to
>> > show, but I need some more time to pick the right file. Here's a warm
>> > up picture.
>> > http://www.diskusjon.no/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=238917
>> > Slightly cropped and LR tweaked. Handhelp with K20D and DA* 300/4
>> >
>>
>> THAT is a beautiful puffin portrait, Tim.  I'm so freaking jealous.
>>   I have to travel pretty far for just a chance of a glimpse of a
>> puffin.  Love those birds...
>>
>> Christian
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Re: PESO: A Puff of fresh air.

[pnstenquist]

Doh. I see you indicated that it was th3 300. Though it was Christian's post. I 
think it's bed time for bonzo:-).
Paul
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From: Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Tim Øsleby wrote:
> > Three Pentaxians and a Nikonian at Runde http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runde
> > Me and Jostein had a great time at the cliffs.
> > 
> > I'm still soriting pictures. Thenk I've got a PDML bird or two to
> > show, but I need some more time to pick the right file. Here's a warm
> > up picture.
> > http://www.diskusjon.no/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=238917
> > Slightly cropped and LR tweaked. Handhelp with K20D and DA* 300/4
> > 
> 
> THAT is a beautiful puffin portrait, Tim.  I'm so freaking jealous. 
>   I have to travel pretty far for just a chance of a glimpse of a 
> puffin.  Love those birds...
> 
> Christian
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Re: PESO: A Puff of fresh air.

[pnstenquist]

Cool bird. Looks like he could be a relative of mine.  Shot with your 500?
Paul
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From: Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Tim Øsleby wrote:
> > Three Pentaxians and a Nikonian at Runde http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runde
> > Me and Jostein had a great time at the cliffs.
> > 
> > I'm still soriting pictures. Thenk I've got a PDML bird or two to
> > show, but I need some more time to pick the right file. Here's a warm
> > up picture.
> > http://www.diskusjon.no/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=238917
> > Slightly cropped and LR tweaked. Handhelp with K20D and DA* 300/4
> > 
> 
> THAT is a beautiful puffin portrait, Tim.  I'm so freaking jealous. 
>   I have to travel pretty far for just a chance of a glimpse of a 
> puffin.  Love those birds...
> 
> Christian
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Re: PESO: A Puff of fresh air.

[Christian]

Tim Øsleby wrote:
> Three Pentaxians and a Nikonian at Runde http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runde
> Me and Jostein had a great time at the cliffs.
> 
> I'm still soriting pictures. Thenk I've got a PDML bird or two to
> show, but I need some more time to pick the right file. Here's a warm
> up picture.
> http://www.diskusjon.no/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=238917
> Slightly cropped and LR tweaked. Handhelp with K20D and DA* 300/4
> 

THAT is a beautiful puffin portrait, Tim.  I'm so freaking jealous. 
  I have to travel pretty far for just a chance of a glimpse of a 
puffin.  Love those birds...

Christian

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Re: Why to buy a K20D?

[pnstenquist]

With 8000 frames on the K20D I'm sure it's less noisy thatn the K10D at any ISO 
above 400. In fact, 1600 is comparable to about 600 on the K10. And the K10D 
doesn't shoot 6400. It wouldn't dare:-).
Paul
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From: "David Savage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 2008/6/30 Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > No, it's not the result of image processing you could apply in
> > PhotoShop. I shoot only RAW. The RAW data is far superior. It's
> > apparently the result of a sensor that generates less heat at high
> > ISO than the K10D sensor.
> 
> I'm not too sure about this.
> 
> The inability to fully disable NR & some ISO 6400 shots I've taken
> that display heat patterns, leads me believe that the sensor isn't as
> noise free as many think.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Dave
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Re: Stupid Compter Question

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "David Savage" 
Subject: Re: Stupid Compter Question


> 2008/7/1 William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> Hi,
>> My graphics card (Asus 8600GTS)  says it has a DVI maximum resolution of 
>> 1920x1200x60Hz.
>> Is this total resolution, split between 2 panels, or is that resolution per 
>> panel?
> 
> I believe it's per monitor.

Thanks Dave. 
There may be a LaCie in my future..

William Robb

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Re: Why to buy a K20D?

[David Savage]

2008/6/30 Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> No, it's not the result of image processing you could apply in
> PhotoShop. I shoot only RAW. The RAW data is far superior. It's
> apparently the result of a sensor that generates less heat at high
> ISO than the K10D sensor.

I'm not too sure about this.

The inability to fully disable NR & some ISO 6400 shots I've taken
that display heat patterns, leads me believe that the sensor isn't as
noise free as many think.

Cheers,

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Re: Stupid Compter Question

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Doug Franklin" 
Subject: Re: Stupid Compter Question


> William Robb wrote:
> 
>> My graphics card (Asus 8600GTS)  says it has a DVI maximum resolution of 
>> 1920x1200x60Hz.
>> Is this total resolution, split between 2 panels, or is that resolution per 
>> panel?
> 
> That should be the resolution for a single panel.  If it can drive 
> multiple panels, it should be able to drive each at that maximum resolution.

Excellent.
Thanks Doug
bill

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Re: Stupid Compter Question

[Doug Franklin]

William Robb wrote:

> My graphics card (Asus 8600GTS)  says it has a DVI maximum resolution of 
> 1920x1200x60Hz.
> Is this total resolution, split between 2 panels, or is that resolution per 
> panel?

That should be the resolution for a single panel.  If it can drive 
multiple panels, it should be able to drive each at that maximum resolution.

> Also, is there any advantage to a non gamer for going the SLI route if he 
> wants to run a pair of 
> fairly large flat panel screens?

Nope.  The SLI (Scalable Link Interface) is for when you have lots of 
complex rendering going on, as in a game.  I would not expect it to help 
at all for regular (non-3D) displays.  It might help AutoCAD or 
something, but it's not going to do Photoshop any good.

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Re: On the Ones We Missed

[Doug Franklin]

Bob W wrote:
> Far too many missed shots to bore everyone with. Well, maybe just one
> then. I was walking along Piccadilly one Sunday and saw Don McCullin,
> so I went up, shook his hand and said hello. We chatted for about 10
> minutes and in all that time I never thought to take his picture, or
> to ask him to take a picture of me with my camera (so I'd have owned a
> unique, original photo by one of the legends).

At the 1998 and 2000 Petit le Mans races, a car backflipped on the back 
straight.  In 1998 it was Yannick Dalmas in a prototype (?Porsche 
LMP-1?).  In 2000 it was Bill Auberlin in a Mercedes prototype (?CLK 
GTR?).  Both times I was on the opposite side of the track.  In 1998, I 
didn't even know about it until I saw a replay the next day on ESPN or 
SpeedChannel.

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Re: PESO: The PDML bird

[P. J. Alling]

It looks like a typical PDML meeting...

Tim Øsleby wrote:
> This was a hard shot to get. From a boat trip around Runde.
> A hit and miss situation,
>
> Ok. Enough disclaimer, here it is, The official PDML bird..
> http://www.diskusjon.no/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=238970
>
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Re: Stupid Compter Question

[David Savage]

2008/7/1 William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi,
> My graphics card (Asus 8600GTS)  says it has a DVI maximum resolution of 
> 1920x1200x60Hz.
> Is this total resolution, split between 2 panels, or is that resolution per 
> panel?

I believe it's per monitor.

> Also, is there any advantage to a non gamer for going the SLI route if he 
> wants to run a pair of
> fairly large flat panel screens?

For a non gamer? Not really.

Cheers,

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Stupid Compter Question

[William Robb]

Hi,
My graphics card (Asus 8600GTS)  says it has a DVI maximum resolution of 
1920x1200x60Hz.
Is this total resolution, split between 2 panels, or is that resolution per 
panel?
Also, is there any advantage to a non gamer for going the SLI route if he wants 
to run a pair of 
fairly large flat panel screens?

Thanks for any insights

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PESO: The PDML bird

[Tim Øsleby]

This was a hard shot to get. From a boat trip around Runde.
A hit and miss situation,

Ok. Enough disclaimer, here it is, The official PDML bird..
http://www.diskusjon.no/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=238970

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Re:RAW Write Times for K100D Super

[James Meeks]

I just looked at Steve's Digicams and they had a couple of decent  
cards for their test and the write times are the same as I got. I did  
a burst in RAW and it took 10 seconds or so to write to the card,  
which is what they had described. Anyway, thanks for answering.

Jim

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Re: GESO - Portraits of Pride

[Charles Robinson]

On Jun 30, 2008, at 8:30, frank theriault wrote:
> It all culminates with a huge parade, which I usually avoid.  The best
> pix are to be had on Church Street, a block from the parade, where
> most of the booths and activities take place.  It's a giant
> block-party!
>

A couple of guys at the Star-Tribune here in Minneapolis referred to  
this weekend's Pride festival/parade as the "two-day fridge-magnet  
expo".

There are a lot of booths with T-shirts, magnets, and bumper stickers  
bearing pithy sayings.

I had a great time, but as usual failed to pull out the camera for  
more than just a couple.  I'll share the photo of the rainbow-dyed dog  
a bit later when I've got it "developed".  Oh - here we go!

http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2008/IMGP0513.jpg

My conversation with the owner, roller-skating with the dog:

  Me: "That dye does wash out, right?"

  He: "You'll just have to come home and shower with us to find out!"

Heh.  That got a giggle out of me.  I passed on the invite, though!

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Re: RAW Write Times for K100D Super

[William Robb]

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From: "James Meeks"
Subject: RAW Write Times for K100D Super


> Hi,
>
> I recently bought a K100D Super and have been testing the camera. I
> have an 80X SD card and the write times for RAW are about 5 or 6
> seconds. I bought a 133X card and the write times are still the same.
> Is this about normal for this camera and shouldn't they be faster
> with the new card? Thanks.

I don't know what is normal for that camera, but it sounds like anything faster 
than an 80X card 
is faster than the camera.

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Re: RAW Write Times for K100D Super

[Adam Maas]

Sounds about right, K100D is no speed demon.

-Adam

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 6:53 PM, James Meeks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I recently bought a K100D Super and have been testing the camera. I
> have an 80X SD card and the write times for RAW are about 5 or 6
> seconds. I bought a 133X card and the write times are still the same.
> Is this about normal for this camera and shouldn't they be faster
> with the new card? Thanks.
>
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Re: PESO: A Puff of fresh air.

[P. J. Alling]

Tim Øsleby wrote:
> Three Pentaxians and a Nikonian at Runde http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runde
> Me and Jostein had a great time at the cliffs.
>
> I'm still soriting pictures. Thenk I've got a PDML bird or two to
> show, but I need some more time to pick the right file. Here's a warm
> up picture.
> http://www.diskusjon.no/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=238917
> Slightly cropped and LR tweaked. Handhelp with K20D and DA* 300/4
>
>   
Nicely done.

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Re: RAW Write Times for K100D Super

[P. J. Alling]

Nope, bus speed is your bottleneck.  I believe it's the same as the DL.  
Which wasn't particularly speedy.

James Meeks wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I recently bought a K100D Super and have been testing the camera. I  
> have an 80X SD card and the write times for RAW are about 5 or 6  
> seconds. I bought a 133X card and the write times are still the same.  
> Is this about normal for this camera and shouldn't they be faster  
> with the new card? Thanks.
>
>
>
>   


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PESO: A Puff of fresh air.

[Tim Øsleby]

Three Pentaxians and a Nikonian at Runde http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runde
Me and Jostein had a great time at the cliffs.

I'm still soriting pictures. Thenk I've got a PDML bird or two to
show, but I need some more time to pick the right file. Here's a warm
up picture.
http://www.diskusjon.no/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=238917
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RAW Write Times for K100D Super

[James Meeks]

Hi,

I recently bought a K100D Super and have been testing the camera. I  
have an 80X SD card and the write times for RAW are about 5 or 6  
seconds. I bought a 133X card and the write times are still the same.  
Is this about normal for this camera and shouldn't they be faster  
with the new card? Thanks.



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RE: PESO: totally unspectacular again

[Bob W]

> P.S.: Oh, and "scheepvaart" means shipping.

why did you have to go and spoil it!...:o)

> 
> Belgium is full of such magical places. Time capsules, where 
> the clocks
> have simply stopped one day. Must have been around 1957 in this
case:
> 
> http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012
> 
> On the right outside wall, there's an advertisement for lubricants,
a
> real gem breathing the zeitgeist of the early atomic age:
> 
> http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/extra/egallery/pcat/289725/d
> isplay/133
> 93264
> 
> The second one is just an aside, out of competition. 
> 
> As always, your comments and suggestions...  :-)
> 
> Ralf
> 
> P.S.: Oh, and "scheepvaart" means shipping.


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PESO: totally unspectacular again

[Ralf R. Radermacher]

Belgium is full of such magical places. Time capsules, where the clocks
have simply stopped one day. Must have been around 1957 in this case:

http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012

On the right outside wall, there's an advertisement for lubricants, a
real gem breathing the zeitgeist of the early atomic age:

http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/extra/egallery/pcat/289725/display/133
93264

The second one is just an aside, out of competition. 

As always, your comments and suggestions...  :-)

Ralf

P.S.: Oh, and "scheepvaart" means shipping.

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Re: PESO -- Not so Koy

[frank theriault]

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 1:39 AM, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> After the hike my companion and I repaired to a local watering hole for
> rest and refreshment.  On the way there was a man made pond stocked with
> giant goldfish.  They were amazingly friendly.  When I stepped up to the
> edge, the fish that had been at the far end of the pond swam over to see
> what was going on, it was almost as if they were posing, not coy at all...
>
> http://www.mindspring.com/~distilfink/PESO%20--%20notsokoy.html
>
> Equipment: Pentax *ist-Ds/smc Pentax 70-210mm f4.0~5.6
>
> As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.

He actually does look rather purposeful, doesn't he?  I'd have never
thought it possible for fish to have much in the way of intention.

Good photo!

cheers,
frank


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Re: OT: Photographic Weapon?

[P. J. Alling]

Damn, you really know how to invoke Godwin's law...

Bob W wrote:
> Since we are in 'mock the Germans' territory, perhaps you'd be
> interested to see how one German Man Utd. fan reacted to news that
> Ronaldo was leaving the club: 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWhWV8lt_1I
>
> Bob
>
>   
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
>> Behalf Of P. J. Alling
>> Sent: 30 June 2008 14:54
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>> Subject: Re: OT: Photographic Weapon?
>>
>> Yes Quite.
>>
>> Since he's German, I guess I'll have to stand in for the Frenchman.
>>
>> Anthony Farr wrote:
>> 
>>> How Magnificent.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Anthony Farr
>>>
>>>   
>>>   
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
>> On Behalf Of P.
>> 
 J. Alling
 Sent: Monday, 30 June 2008 11:20 PM
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 Subject: Re: OT: Photographic Weapon?

 Since I get to choose weapons, I choose blunderbusses and 
 
>> balloons...
>> 
>
>
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RE: On the Ones We Missed

[Bob W]

Far too many missed shots to bore everyone with. Well, maybe just one
then. I was walking along Piccadilly one Sunday and saw Don McCullin,
so I went up, shook his hand and said hello. We chatted for about 10
minutes and in all that time I never thought to take his picture, or
to ask him to take a picture of me with my camera (so I'd have owned a
unique, original photo by one of the legends).

Bob

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Christine Aguila
> Sent: 30 June 2008 19:27
> To: pdml@pdml.net
> Subject: On the Ones We Missed
> 
> I suspect that the talent on this list misses very few shots, 
> but in the off 
> chance there are some funny stories about missed shots, I'd be very 
> interested in reading them--if you are interested in sharing 
> them.I've 
> even got a story of my own:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> While walking down Clark street in Chicago in the early 80s , 
> I spied a big, 
> burly doorman, who was the size of a small building and had 
> the arms and 
> hands of a stone mason, leading a skinny, pimply faced 
> teenager by the 
> collar out of a very dingy bar.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Outside the bar in broad daylight, the doorman began to give 
> the kid a good 
> verbal thrashing all the while wagging his finger under the 
> kid's nose. 
> Finally the doorman's index finger came to a full stop, and 
> in the next 
> nano-second the teenager seized the moment and chomped on 
> it-and tenaciously 
> hung on as the doorman yelled and desperately tried to shake 
> the kid off. 
> The two spun about for awhile in front of the bar, whirling 
> round & round 
> till the kid picked his moment, let go, and made a run for it.
> 
> 
> 
> And I missed all of it.  I didn't get one shot off-I was so
engrossed 
> watching the drama I completely forgot to reach for my 
> camera, which was 
> slung over my shoulder.  I still have regrets about missing 
> this shot--but 
> fortunately the memory is still well-seen, perfectly rendered 
> with held 
> highlights & detail rich shadows, well-framed, brilliantly 
> composed, and 
> very sharp ;-).
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers, Christine
> 
> 
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RE: OT: Photographic Weapon?

[Bob W]

Since we are in 'mock the Germans' territory, perhaps you'd be
interested to see how one German Man Utd. fan reacted to news that
Ronaldo was leaving the club: 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWhWV8lt_1I

Bob

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of P. J. Alling
> Sent: 30 June 2008 14:54
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: OT: Photographic Weapon?
> 
> Yes Quite.
> 
> Since he's German, I guess I'll have to stand in for the Frenchman.
> 
> Anthony Farr wrote:
> > How Magnificent.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Anthony Farr
> >
> >   
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> On Behalf Of P.
> >> J. Alling
> >> Sent: Monday, 30 June 2008 11:20 PM
> >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> >> Subject: Re: OT: Photographic Weapon?
> >>
> >> Since I get to choose weapons, I choose blunderbusses and 
> balloons...
> >>


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Re: Why to buy a K20D?

[Derby Chang]

Toralf Lund wrote:
> Derby Chang wrote:
>   
>> Toralf Lund wrote:
>>   
>> 
>>> [ ... ]
>>> Indeed. But one of the questions I was asking was really, is the output 
>>> on the poorer performers just a result of bad processing choices that 
>>> might be fixed on the outside?
>>>
>>> - Toralf
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>> 
>>>   
>> Not quite. The voltages coming out of the CCD/CMOS cells are miniscule. 
>> Improvements have been made by moving various amp circuits onto the 
>> photosites, rather than circuitry sitting on the periphery of the 
>> sensor.
>> 
> Yes. I can understand that. But what I'm trying to say is that I'm not 
> sure I quite see how this affects only high ISO values (which everyone 
> seems to be talking about.) Shouldn't these improvements mean there is 
> less noise across the entire range - since the signal always has to 
> travel though these circuits? (Or doesn't it?)
>
>
> - T
>
>
>   
There is less noise across the entire ISO range. But when you don't have 
to amplify the signal (i.e. when you are in low ISO), the noise is less 
apparent to begin with. Only when you boost the amplification do you see 
the improvements in noise reduction.

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RE: PESO 2008 - 103 - GDG

[Bob W]

Excellent! 

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi
> Sent: 30 June 2008 17:45
> To: PAW Picture-A-Week project; 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]; SeePhoto Talk; PDML List; DUG
> Subject: PESO 2008 - 103 - GDG
> 
> Yesterday morning ...
> 
>http://homepage.mac.com/godders/103-to_the_body.jpg
>To The Body! - San Francisco Pride 2008
>Olympus E-1 + Summilux-D 25mm f/1.4 ASPH
>ISO 100 @ f/2 @ 1/320 sec
> 
> Comments and critique always appreciated.
> 
> Back story to this one:
> ---
> I was walking in the Castro before the San Francisco Pride Parade,  
> taking pictures, when this man walking past stopped and asked what I

> was doing.
> 
> "Taking pictures of stuff," I replied, "I'm a photographer."
> 
> "Take my picture?" he asked.
> 
> "Sure," I said, lifting the camera to my eye.
> 
> Unprompted, he pulled up his shirt, I snapped the shutter, 
> and with a  
> big smile he yelled, "To The Body!"
> 
> enjoy
> Godfrey
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RE: PESO: we are the champions (not Spain)!

[Bob W]

"For those of you watching in black and white, Spurs are in the all
yellow strip"
-- The great Mottie

http://www.longballgame.com/motson.htm 

> 
> Carlos, it is a long time ago I watched football in BW :)
> 
> Henk
> 
> Carlos Royo schreef:
> > That's a very good photo. I bet it would look even better 
> after being 
> > converted to BW.
> > 
> > Carlos
> > 
> > Henk Terhell escribió:
> >> Picture which I took last week of my granddaughter with 
> her team, with 
> >> the K10D and FA 50/1.4.
> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/mxer/2619389362/
> >>
> >> Henk


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Re: On the Ones We Missed

[Fernando]

Glad you liked it Mark, it gets boring after a while though; I can't
seem to read more than a four of entries ;-)

Cool pictures BTW ("Bikers on the Blue Ridge" -> beautiful)

Cheers

On 6/30/08, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Fernando wrote:
> > Early 80s that's good memory!!
> >
> > You reminded me of this website:
> > http://www.unphotographable.com/
>
> Cool blog!
>
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Re: On the Ones We Missed

[Mark Roberts]

Fernando wrote:
> Early 80s that's good memory!!
> 
> You reminded me of this website:
> http://www.unphotographable.com/

Cool blog!


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Re: Why to buy a K20D?

[Toralf Lund]

John Francis wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 01:38:37PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>   
>> Underexposure and correction in conversion always results in severe noise.
>> Don't kow why. But I know it happens, so I avoid it . . .
>> 
>
> It happens because noise is (by definition) pretty much random.
>
> If you underexpose by two stops, and correct in conversion, you're going
> to get a certain amount of noise.   If, however, you expose correctly,
> you're going to get four times the number of photons contributing to the
> signal. [ ... ]
I think you are missing my point here. I was talking about correcting in 
software "outside the camera" as an alternative to correcting using the 
ISO setting, given exactly the same exposure settings. I mean, when you 
shoot at anything above the "native" ISO, you are also in reality 
underexposing at the sensor level (if the exposure is "correct" 
according to the meter etc.) since the sensor itself has a fixed 
sensitivity. Right?

- T


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Re: Another little friend (DA300 wide open 1:1)

[Brendan MacRae]

Yes, yes...quite good!

-Brendan
--- Margus Männik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi again,
> 
> K20D, DA300/f4 wide open. Original shot in jpeg
> (sorry...), no 
> manipulations besides cropping and resaving in PS
> CS2 (jpg quality level 
> 10). Not an art, not an intended nature photography,
> just to show the 
> sharpness wide open. Not bad... or what?
> 
> http://home.uninet.ee/~margus02/peso/k20d1032cr.jpg
> 
> BR, Margus
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Re: On the Ones We Missed

[Brendan MacRae]

Interesting thread...

My last missed opportunity was just a few weeks ago. I
was attending an adoption celebration party for my
good friends up the road from me in Nevada City.

Our friend's mother who was in town from Texas, is
suffering from cancer but was none the less on hand to
be at the event to celebrate with her daughter and her
newly adopted grandson.

At one point in the festivites when friends and family
members were each coming forward to hand the boy
flowers and say a few words I was busy get each with a
couple of shots using the K10D and 540 flash outdoors
(manual mode and fill flash).

I managed to catch everybody EXCEPT my friends' mother
doing the flower exchange since my SD card was full I
didn't realize it (funny how the camera suddenly won't
work!...duh)...It was like a wedding photographer
missing the kiss. Ugh.

Anyway, even though I shoot stuff like this gratis and
because I enjoy it, I still treat it as though these
are clients and they deserve my best efforts. I made
up for it later by getting some good shots of the boy
and his new grandmother together, but things like this
stick with you and it's really tough to completely
shake the regret.

The upside is that situations like these usually make
one a better photographer. I'm not making that mistake
EVER again!

-Brendan
--- Christine  Aguila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I suspect that the talent on this list misses very
> few shots, but in the off 
> chance there are some funny stories about missed
> shots, I'd be very 
> interested in reading them--if you are interested in
> sharing them.I've 
> even got a story of my own:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> While walking down Clark street in Chicago in the
> early 80s , I spied a big, 
> burly doorman, who was the size of a small building
> and had the arms and 
> hands of a stone mason, leading a skinny, pimply
> faced teenager by the 
> collar out of a very dingy bar.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Outside the bar in broad daylight, the doorman began
> to give the kid a good 
> verbal thrashing all the while wagging his finger
> under the kid's nose. 
> Finally the doorman's index finger came to a full
> stop, and in the next 
> nano-second the teenager seized the moment and
> chomped on it-and tenaciously 
> hung on as the doorman yelled and desperately tried
> to shake the kid off. 
> The two spun about for awhile in front of the bar,
> whirling round & round 
> till the kid picked his moment, let go, and made a
> run for it.
> 
> 
> 
> And I missed all of it.  I didn't get one shot off-I
> was so engrossed 
> watching the drama I completely forgot to reach for
> my camera, which was 
> slung over my shoulder.  I still have regrets about
> missing this shot--but 
> fortunately the memory is still well-seen, perfectly
> rendered with held 
> highlights & detail rich shadows, well-framed,
> brilliantly composed, and 
> very sharp ;-).
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers, Christine
> 
> 
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Re: Another little friend (DA300 wide open 1:1)

[pnstenquist]

It appears to show excellent detail. How about shoing us a 100% crop? BTW, it's 
a darn nice pic as well!
Paul
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> Hi again,
> 
> K20D, DA300/f4 wide open. Original shot in jpeg (sorry...), no 
> manipulations besides cropping and resaving in PS CS2 (jpg quality level 
> 10). Not an art, not an intended nature photography, just to show the 
> sharpness wide open. Not bad... or what?
> 
> http://home.uninet.ee/~margus02/peso/k20d1032cr.jpg
> 
> BR, Margus
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Re: PESO 2008 - 103 - GDG

[Fernando]

Hi Godfrey,

great shot and story

On 6/30/08, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yesterday morning ...
>
>   http://homepage.mac.com/godders/103-to_the_body.jpg
>   To The Body! - San Francisco Pride 2008
>   Olympus E-1 + Summilux-D 25mm f/1.4 ASPH
>   ISO 100 @ f/2 @ 1/320 sec
>
> Comments and critique always appreciated.
>
> Back story to this one:
> ---
> I was walking in the Castro before the San Francisco Pride Parade,
> taking pictures, when this man walking past stopped and asked what I
> was doing.
>
> "Taking pictures of stuff," I replied, "I'm a photographer."
>
> "Take my picture?" he asked.
>
> "Sure," I said, lifting the camera to my eye.
>
> Unprompted, he pulled up his shirt, I snapped the shutter, and with a
> big smile he yelled, "To The Body!"
>
> enjoy
> Godfrey
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Re: On the Ones We Missed

[Fernando]

Early 80s that's good memory!!

You reminded me of this website:
http://www.unphotographable.com/

On 6/30/08, Christine  Aguila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I suspect that the talent on this list misses very few shots, but in the off
> chance there are some funny stories about missed shots, I'd be very
> interested in reading them--if you are interested in sharing them.I've
> even got a story of my own:
>
>
>
>
>
> While walking down Clark street in Chicago in the early 80s , I spied a big,
> burly doorman, who was the size of a small building and had the arms and
> hands of a stone mason, leading a skinny, pimply faced teenager by the
> collar out of a very dingy bar.
>
>
>
>
>
> Outside the bar in broad daylight, the doorman began to give the kid a good
> verbal thrashing all the while wagging his finger under the kid's nose.
> Finally the doorman's index finger came to a full stop, and in the next
> nano-second the teenager seized the moment and chomped on it-and tenaciously
> hung on as the doorman yelled and desperately tried to shake the kid off.
> The two spun about for awhile in front of the bar, whirling round & round
> till the kid picked his moment, let go, and made a run for it.
>
>
>
> And I missed all of it.  I didn't get one shot off-I was so engrossed
> watching the drama I completely forgot to reach for my camera, which was
> slung over my shoulder.  I still have regrets about missing this shot--but
> fortunately the memory is still well-seen, perfectly rendered with held
> highlights & detail rich shadows, well-framed, brilliantly composed, and
> very sharp ;-).
>
>
>
> Cheers, Christine
>
>
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Re: Another little friend (DA300 wide open 1:1)

[Christian]

Margus Männik wrote:
> Hi again,
> 
> K20D, DA300/f4 wide open. Original shot in jpeg (sorry...), no 
> manipulations besides cropping and resaving in PS CS2 (jpg quality level 
> 10). Not an art, not an intended nature photography, just to show the 
> sharpness wide open. Not bad... or what?
> 
> http://home.uninet.ee/~margus02/peso/k20d1032cr.jpg
> 
> BR, Margus
> 

Nice shot Margus.  A very sharp image; I'd be pleased with that lens. 
  Looks like a shrike of some sort?

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Re: Another little friend (DA300 wide open 1:1)

[Margus Männik]

Hi Frank,

the image sharpness improved a lot after I adjusted my camera. Just one 
step to negative side, but the difference is significant. I tried to 
shot a moon, but the images were not as sharp as expected, so I spent 
couple of hours with test targets and evaluating the images. DA300 
adjustment is much more critical than with shorter lenses.

BR, Margus


 frank theriault wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 3:55 PM, Margus Männik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> Hi again,
>>
>> K20D, DA300/f4 wide open. Original shot in jpeg (sorry...), no
>> manipulations besides cropping and resaving in PS CS2 (jpg quality level
>> 10). Not an art, not an intended nature photography, just to show the
>> sharpness wide open. Not bad... or what?
>>
>> http://home.uninet.ee/~margus02/peso/k20d1032cr.jpg
>>
>> BR, Margus
>>
>> 
>
> Well, I think ~everything~ is sharp, and compared to my photos
> everything ~is~ sharp.
>
> Whatever the case may be, I do think this is a very sharp photo, and a
> terrific grab of this little fellow.
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
>   


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Re: GESO - Portraits of Pride

[Fernando]

Nice set of pictures Frank, I like them all.

Fernando

On 6/30/08, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This past weekend was Pride Weekend here in Toronto.  It used to be
> called Gay Pride, but now it's just Pride.  So many more than just gay
> men and women participate, it just makes sense to call it Pride.
>
> It all culminates with a huge parade, which I usually avoid.  The best
> pix are to be had on Church Street, a block from the parade, where
> most of the booths and activities take place.  It's a giant
> block-party!
>
> This is my first year there with a digital camera, and I had a blast.
> I've got hundreds of shots to go through, but last night all I did was
> "street portraits" of happy people.  Hope you enjoy:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/49zfex
>
> http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SGjT7ntHlcI/Cak/tnT-BjGQWSc/s1600-h/jun_30_08+014.jpg
>
>
> http://tinyurl.com/3fc7sr
>
> http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SGjQjnpUfkI/CaM/endoLhRfbw0/s1600-h/jun_30_08+011.jpg
>
>
> http://tinyurl.com/46bmwh
>
> http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SGjQrOKSHgI/Cac/NnNR3zgKk0E/s1600-h/jun_30_08+013.jpg
>
>
> http://tinyurl.com/3uz9am
>
> http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SGjUBit6qKI/Cas/_6qmOvcdjTg/s1600-h/jun_30_08+017.jpg
>
>
> http://tinyurl.com/45khjr
>
> http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SGjQnGoWWqI/CaU/SdZnsAj_moo/s1600-h/jun_30_08+012.jpg
>
>
> http://tinyurl.com/4t77ev
>
> http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SGjPTWtUqcI/CZc/KqPZTnDYuSc/s1600-h/jun_30_08+005.jpg
>
>
> http://tinyurl.com/4qwc5d
>
> http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SGjPO93BzcI/CZM/7iPv1DzgJJk/s1600-h/jun_30_08+003.jpg
>
>
> http://tinyurl.com/5xwwxn
>
> http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SGjPmDge-4I/CZ8/LORb2xS5JUQ/s1600-h/jun_30_08+007.jpg
>
>
>
> http://tinyurl.com/3zk4uh
>
> http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SGjPptWIMGI/CaE/XaVKaUskeYc/s1600-h/jun_30_08+008.jpg
>
>
> http://tinyurl.com/5xux7z
>
> http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SGjPTEoGMmI/CZU/tUuAJNu7C94/s1600-h/jun_30_08+004.jpg
>
>
> http://tinyurl.com/3ovskz
>
> http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SGjPh9R723I/CZ0/25plaZfKY-Y/s1600-h/jun_30_08+006.jpg
>
>
> Comments always welcome and thanks in advance!
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: On the Ones We Missed

[Tim Bray]

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Christine  Aguila
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I suspect that the talent on this list misses very few shots, but in the off
> chance there are some funny stories about missed shots, I'd be very
> interested in reading them--if you are interested in sharing them.I've
> even got a story of my own:

The obvious thing to do when you're not quick enough with the camera
is to paint a word-picture, which you did.  I have a very vivid mental
image of the scene now.  Thank you.-T

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Re: Peso Infrared horse show photo

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On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 1:53 PM, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I took the G3 to the last day, Sunday of the three day show. The sun
> was out for a while in the morning, so i took a few shots with it
> during a warm up fro the first division.
> Knowing the shutter lag is slow on these P&S's i timed my shot as the
> front legs hit the ground just in front of the jump.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/2624693515/
>
> This was the one and only try, as i nailed it.:-)
>
> G3, Av at f8 and Tv at 1/400. LR adjusting just to see whati could get.
>
> Looks not to bad in LR but way to light on a browser.
>
> Comments welcome.
>
>

As Paul said, you really nailed this one (from a timing perspective)
and the IR works very well with it.

Cool shot!

cheers,
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Re: On the Ones We Missed

[Jack Davis]

I get the picture, too. Thanks.
This way, the image will only improve. ;)

Jack


--- On Mon, 6/30/08, Christine Aguila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Christine Aguila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: On the Ones We Missed
> To: pdml@pdml.net
> Date: Monday, June 30, 2008, 11:26 AM
> I suspect that the talent on this list misses very few
> shots, but in the off 
> chance there are some funny stories about missed shots,
> I'd be very 
> interested in reading them--if you are interested in
> sharing them.I've 
> even got a story of my own:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> While walking down Clark street in Chicago in the early 80s
> , I spied a big, 
> burly doorman, who was the size of a small building and had
> the arms and 
> hands of a stone mason, leading a skinny, pimply faced
> teenager by the 
> collar out of a very dingy bar.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Outside the bar in broad daylight, the doorman began to
> give the kid a good 
> verbal thrashing all the while wagging his finger under the
> kid's nose. 
> Finally the doorman's index finger came to a full stop,
> and in the next 
> nano-second the teenager seized the moment and chomped on
> it-and tenaciously 
> hung on as the doorman yelled and desperately tried to
> shake the kid off. 
> The two spun about for awhile in front of the bar, whirling
> round & round 
> till the kid picked his moment, let go, and made a run for
> it.
> 
> 
> 
> And I missed all of it.  I didn't get one shot off-I
> was so engrossed 
> watching the drama I completely forgot to reach for my
> camera, which was 
> slung over my shoulder.  I still have regrets about missing
> this shot--but 
> fortunately the memory is still well-seen, perfectly
> rendered with held 
> highlights & detail rich shadows, well-framed,
> brilliantly composed, and 
> very sharp ;-).
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers, Christine
> 
> 
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Re: PESO: we are the champions (not Spain)!

[frank theriault]

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 3:14 AM, Henk Terhell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Picture which I took last week of my granddaughter with her team, with
> the K10D and FA 50/1.4.
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/mxer/2619389362/
>
>

Very cute shot, Henk!

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Re: Another little friend (DA300 wide open 1:1)

[Jack Davis]

Wow! I'd, also, be very pleased with f/4.

Jack



--- On Mon, 6/30/08, Margus Männik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Margus Männik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Another little friend (DA300 wide open 1:1)
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Monday, June 30, 2008, 12:55 PM
> Hi again,
> 
> K20D, DA300/f4 wide open. Original shot in jpeg (sorry...),
> no 
> manipulations besides cropping and resaving in PS CS2 (jpg
> quality level 
> 10). Not an art, not an intended nature photography, just
> to show the 
> sharpness wide open. Not bad... or what?
> 
> http://home.uninet.ee/~margus02/peso/k20d1032cr.jpg
> 
> BR, Margus
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Re: On the Ones We Missed

[frank theriault]

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 3:05 PM, ann sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sounds like you needed video for this one :-)
>
> I have tons of missed shots stories --  some because I wasn't carrying
> the camera, some because I wasn't
> fast enough, had the wrong lens, ran out of film, batteries died, etc...
> or whoever was driving the car I
> was in wouldn't stop.  Lots more missed shtos than got shots over the
> years - or maybe it just seems
> that way.  IF I think of a particularly cute story I'll send it a long
> down the line
>

I used to think that I missed lots of shots, and that if only I
carried a camera with me at all times, I'd capture them all.

I was wrong.

;-)

Still, carrying a camera with me virtually every time I leave the
house (except when I ride to work) gives me many fewer "missed shots"
than I've ever had before.

cheers,
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Re: Another little friend (DA300 wide open 1:1)

[frank theriault]

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 3:55 PM, Margus Männik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi again,
>
> K20D, DA300/f4 wide open. Original shot in jpeg (sorry...), no
> manipulations besides cropping and resaving in PS CS2 (jpg quality level
> 10). Not an art, not an intended nature photography, just to show the
> sharpness wide open. Not bad... or what?
>
> http://home.uninet.ee/~margus02/peso/k20d1032cr.jpg
>
> BR, Margus
>

Well, I think ~everything~ is sharp, and compared to my photos
everything ~is~ sharp.

Whatever the case may be, I do think this is a very sharp photo, and a
terrific grab of this little fellow.

cheers,
frank

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Another little friend (DA300 wide open 1:1)

[Margus Männik]

Hi again,

K20D, DA300/f4 wide open. Original shot in jpeg (sorry...), no 
manipulations besides cropping and resaving in PS CS2 (jpg quality level 
10). Not an art, not an intended nature photography, just to show the 
sharpness wide open. Not bad... or what?

http://home.uninet.ee/~margus02/peso/k20d1032cr.jpg

BR, Margus

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Re: OT: Photographic Weapon?

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> 
> From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2008/06/30 Mon PM 01:19:48 GMT
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Subject: Re: OT: Photographic Weapon?
> 
> Since I get to choose weapons, I choose blunderbusses and balloons...

Cunning ploy but Herr von Bismark will not, on this occasion, be wearing his 
pickelhaube.
http://www.kaisersbunker.com/hp/

> 
> mike wilson wrote:
> >> From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Date: 2008/06/28 Sat PM 12:53:27 GMT
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> >> Subject: Re: OT: Photographic Weapon?
> >>
> >> I just read the first page, and I figured it out immediately.  Seems 
> >> like a long way to go for what is essentially a practical joke.
> >> 
> >
> > Having insulted his Art, Herr von Bismark requests the pleasure of your 
> > company on Luneburg heath at 7.30am.  Pistols or sabres?
> >
> >   
> >> Derby Chang wrote:
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> >>> David Savage wrote:
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> >>>   
>  
> 
>  Cheers,
> 
>  Dave
> 
>    
>  
>  
> >>> Amusing
> >>>
> >>> I didn't get ihow it worked until I read his website
> >>> http://www.juliusvonbismarck.com/fulgurator/idee.html
> >>>
> >>> D
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>   
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Re: Back from NC - Now with photos

[Mark Roberts]

frank theriault wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 2:39 PM, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> Ah yes, but this time I was getting my butt kicked by *in shape*
>> cyclists. That makes me feel much better. Sort of. I think...
> 
> Yes, but right now your cardio capacity is still far better than mine,
> and you've got two years of fairly extensive bike-work under your
> belt.
> 
> I don't think I'd want to go against you right at this moment...
> 
> ;-)

Are you kidding? My legs still hurt from Saturday. "Right at this 
moment" would be the *best* time to challenge me to a race!


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Re: Back from NC - Now with photos

[David J Brooks]

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 3:19 PM, frank theriault
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 2:39 PM, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Ah yes, but this time I was getting my butt kicked by *in shape*
>> cyclists. That makes me feel much better. Sort of. I think...
>
> Yes, but right now your cardio capacity is still far better than mine,
> and you've got two years of fairly extensive bike-work under your
> belt.
>
> I don't think I'd want to go against you right at this moment...

You could bet me, i'm sure.:-)

Dave


>
> ;-)
>
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> frank
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Re: Back from NC - Now with photos

[frank theriault]

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 2:39 PM, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Ah yes, but this time I was getting my butt kicked by *in shape*
> cyclists. That makes me feel much better. Sort of. I think...

Yes, but right now your cardio capacity is still far better than mine,
and you've got two years of fairly extensive bike-work under your
belt.

I don't think I'd want to go against you right at this moment...

;-)

cheers,
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Re: PESO 2008 - 103 - GDG

[Mike Hamilton]

On 30-Jun-08, at 10:45 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

> Yesterday morning ...
>
>   http://homepage.mac.com/godders/103-to_the_body.jpg

Looks fantastic!  Great photograph! :)

Mike

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Re: Peso Infrared horse show photo

[David J Brooks]

Thanks Paul.

It was done in LR on the PC , and this is the first time using the PC,
and it looks a bit bright. the ibook and LR seem to jive more.

Dave

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 2:54 PM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That works! You nailed the timing, and the high contrast result is quite 
> appealing. Well done sir.
> Paul
>  -- Original message --
> From: "David J Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> I took the G3 to the last day, Sunday of the three day show. The sun
>> was out for a while in the morning, so i took a few shots with it
>> during a warm up fro the first division.
>> Knowing the shutter lag is slow on these P&S's i timed my shot as the
>> front legs hit the ground just in front of the jump.
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/2624693515/
>>
>> This was the one and only try, as i nailed it.:-)
>>
>> G3, Av at f8 and Tv at 1/400. LR adjusting just to see whati could get.
>>
>> Looks not to bad in LR but way to light on a browser.
>>
>> Comments welcome.
>>
>> Dave
>>
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>> http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/
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Re: On the Ones We Missed

[ann sanfedele]

Sounds like you needed video for this one :-)

I have tons of missed shots stories --  some because I wasn't carrying 
the camera, some because I wasn't
fast enough, had the wrong lens, ran out of film, batteries died, etc... 
or whoever was driving the car I
was in wouldn't stop.  Lots more missed shtos than got shots over the 
years - or maybe it just seems
that way.  IF I think of a particularly cute story I'll send it a long 
down the line

ann


Christine Aguila wrote:

>I suspect that the talent on this list misses very few shots, but in the off 
>chance there are some funny stories about missed shots, I'd be very 
>interested in reading them--if you are interested in sharing them.I've 
>even got a story of my own:
>
>
>While walking down Clark street in Chicago in the early 80s , I spied a big, 
>burly doorman, who was the size of a small building and had the arms and 
>hands of a stone mason, leading a skinny, pimply faced teenager by the 
>collar out of a very dingy bar.
>
>
>
>
>
>Outside the bar in broad daylight, the doorman began to give the kid a good 
>verbal thrashing all the while wagging his finger under the kid's nose. 
>Finally the doorman's index finger came to a full stop, and in the next 
>nano-second the teenager seized the moment and chomped on it-and tenaciously 
>hung on as the doorman yelled and desperately tried to shake the kid off. 
>The two spun about for awhile in front of the bar, whirling round & round 
>till the kid picked his moment, let go, and made a run for it.
>
>
>
>And I missed all of it.  I didn't get one shot off-I was so engrossed 
>watching the drama I completely forgot to reach for my camera, which was 
>slung over my shoulder.  I still have regrets about missing this shot--but 
>fortunately the memory is still well-seen, perfectly rendered with held 
>highlights & detail rich shadows, well-framed, brilliantly composed, and 
>very sharp ;-).
>
>
>
>Cheers, Christine
>
>
>
>  
>



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Re: Peso Infrared horse show photo

[pnstenquist]

That works! You nailed the timing, and the high contrast result is quite 
appealing. Well done sir.
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: "David J Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I took the G3 to the last day, Sunday of the three day show. The sun
> was out for a while in the morning, so i took a few shots with it
> during a warm up fro the first division.
> Knowing the shutter lag is slow on these P&S's i timed my shot as the
> front legs hit the ground just in front of the jump.
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/2624693515/
> 
> This was the one and only try, as i nailed it.:-)
> 
> G3, Av at f8 and Tv at 1/400. LR adjusting just to see whati could get.
> 
> Looks not to bad in LR but way to light on a browser.
> 
> Comments welcome.
> 
> Dave
> 
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> http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/
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Re: Back from NC - Now with photos

[Mark Roberts]

ann sanfedele wrote:
> A little less crazed - so I'm back skimming list a bit...
> really enjoyed this whole big GESO - and I like the way the page is set 
> up, too
> 
> Userfriendly to all HTML stuff.

Always :)

> I don't know the answer to your Flower "what is it" But I can tell you
> the name of the shelf fungus in this photo:
> 
> http://www.robertstech.com/blog/photos/gallery03/yesitsanotherfungus.html
> Ganoderma tsugae.  

Thanks! It's always good to know these things, especially when they're 
intended for publication!


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Re: Peso Infrared horse show photo

[David J Brooks]

Thanks.

A one day show coming up this Sunday. If its nice out, i'll try some more.

Dave

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 2:33 PM, Christine  Aguila
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> Wow, Dave, that's really great!!!  Good work there.  Cheers, Christine
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "David J Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Pentax Discuss" ; "Harry Bolton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> "Barbara Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Yvette Sheppard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
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> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 12:53 PM
> Subject: Peso Infrared horse show photo
>
>
>>I took the G3 to the last day, Sunday of the three day show. The sun
>> was out for a while in the morning, so i took a few shots with it
>> during a warm up fro the first division.
>> Knowing the shutter lag is slow on these P&S's i timed my shot as the
>> front legs hit the ground just in front of the jump.
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/2624693515/
>>
>> This was the one and only try, as i nailed it.:-)
>>
>> G3, Av at f8 and Tv at 1/400. LR adjusting just to see whati could get.
>>
>> Looks not to bad in LR but way to light on a browser.
>>
>> Comments welcome.
>>
>> Dave
>>
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>> www.caughtinmotion.com
>> http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/
>> Ontario Canada
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Re: Peso Infrared horse show photo

[David J Brooks]

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Mike Hamilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 30-Jun-08, at 11:53 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
>
>> I took the G3 to the last day, Sunday of the three day show. The sun
>> was out for a while in the morning, so i took a few shots with it
>> during a warm up fro the first division.
>> Knowing the shutter lag is slow on these P&S's i timed my shot as the
>> front legs hit the ground just in front of the jump.
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/2624693515/
>>
>> This was the one and only try, as i nailed it.:-)
>>
>> G3, Av at f8 and Tv at 1/400. LR adjusting just to see whati could
>> get.
>
> Wow, 1/400s for IR is great. I remember you mentioning that you had
> the camera converted to IR, which must make a big difference. Anyway,
> it's a great photo.  Rarely have I seen action IR! :)

It was already converted, Mike.

It seems to make a BIG difference having the filter inside the camera.
Most of my test shots are in the 1/125 range so far. My istD at iso
400*(as this was shot) would yield about a 1/4 sec shutter at F8.

Its a pretty fun camera BTW

Dave
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Re: Back from NC - Now with photos

[Mark Roberts]

frank theriault wrote:
> 
> If you remember, Mark, that's exactly what happened when we went for
> our brief (about 40 miles?) ride from the cabin in NC.  I was
> horrendously out of shape, having busted my collarbone the previous
> autumn, and had only been back on my bike for about a month (and had
> the gut to show for it).

Ah yes, but this time I was getting my butt kicked by *in shape* 
cyclists. That makes me feel much better. Sort of. I think...



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Re: PESO 2008 - 103 - GDG

[Christine Aguila]

Godfrey:  Great story & great picture.  Cheers, Christine


- Original Message - 
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To: "PAW Picture-A-Week project" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
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Subject: PESO 2008 - 103 - GDG


> Yesterday morning ...
>
>   http://homepage.mac.com/godders/103-to_the_body.jpg
>   To The Body! - San Francisco Pride 2008
>   Olympus E-1 + Summilux-D 25mm f/1.4 ASPH
>   ISO 100 @ f/2 @ 1/320 sec
>
> Comments and critique always appreciated.
>
> Back story to this one:
> ---
> I was walking in the Castro before the San Francisco Pride Parade,
> taking pictures, when this man walking past stopped and asked what I
> was doing.
>
> "Taking pictures of stuff," I replied, "I'm a photographer."
>
> "Take my picture?" he asked.
>
> "Sure," I said, lifting the camera to my eye.
>
> Unprompted, he pulled up his shirt, I snapped the shutter, and with a
> big smile he yelled, "To The Body!"
>
> enjoy
> Godfrey
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Re: Peso Infrared horse show photo

[Christine Aguila]

Wow, Dave, that's really great!!!  Good work there.  Cheers, Christine


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"Barbara Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Yvette Sheppard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
"Sarah Bedford-James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 12:53 PM
Subject: Peso Infrared horse show photo


>I took the G3 to the last day, Sunday of the three day show. The sun
> was out for a while in the morning, so i took a few shots with it
> during a warm up fro the first division.
> Knowing the shutter lag is slow on these P&S's i timed my shot as the
> front legs hit the ground just in front of the jump.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/2624693515/
>
> This was the one and only try, as i nailed it.:-)
>
> G3, Av at f8 and Tv at 1/400. LR adjusting just to see whati could get.
>
> Looks not to bad in LR but way to light on a browser.
>
> Comments welcome.
>
> Dave
>
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On the Ones We Missed

[Christine Aguila]

I suspect that the talent on this list misses very few shots, but in the off 
chance there are some funny stories about missed shots, I'd be very 
interested in reading them--if you are interested in sharing them.I've 
even got a story of my own:





While walking down Clark street in Chicago in the early 80s , I spied a big, 
burly doorman, who was the size of a small building and had the arms and 
hands of a stone mason, leading a skinny, pimply faced teenager by the 
collar out of a very dingy bar.





Outside the bar in broad daylight, the doorman began to give the kid a good 
verbal thrashing all the while wagging his finger under the kid's nose. 
Finally the doorman's index finger came to a full stop, and in the next 
nano-second the teenager seized the moment and chomped on it-and tenaciously 
hung on as the doorman yelled and desperately tried to shake the kid off. 
The two spun about for awhile in front of the bar, whirling round & round 
till the kid picked his moment, let go, and made a run for it.



And I missed all of it.  I didn't get one shot off-I was so engrossed 
watching the drama I completely forgot to reach for my camera, which was 
slung over my shoulder.  I still have regrets about missing this shot--but 
fortunately the memory is still well-seen, perfectly rendered with held 
highlights & detail rich shadows, well-framed, brilliantly composed, and 
very sharp ;-).



Cheers, Christine



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Re: Peso Infrared horse show photo

[Mike Hamilton]

On 30-Jun-08, at 11:53 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

> I took the G3 to the last day, Sunday of the three day show. The sun
> was out for a while in the morning, so i took a few shots with it
> during a warm up fro the first division.
> Knowing the shutter lag is slow on these P&S's i timed my shot as the
> front legs hit the ground just in front of the jump.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/2624693515/
>
> This was the one and only try, as i nailed it.:-)
>
> G3, Av at f8 and Tv at 1/400. LR adjusting just to see whati could  
> get.

Wow, 1/400s for IR is great. I remember you mentioning that you had  
the camera converted to IR, which must make a big difference. Anyway,  
it's a great photo.  Rarely have I seen action IR! :)

mike

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Re: PESO 2008 - 103 - GDG

[frank theriault]

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 12:45 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yesterday morning ...
>
>   http://homepage.mac.com/godders/103-to_the_body.jpg
>   To The Body! - San Francisco Pride 2008
>   Olympus E-1 + Summilux-D 25mm f/1.4 ASPH
>   ISO 100 @ f/2 @ 1/320 sec
>
> Comments and critique always appreciated.
>
> Back story to this one:
> ---
> I was walking in the Castro before the San Francisco Pride Parade,
> taking pictures, when this man walking past stopped and asked what I
> was doing.
>
> "Taking pictures of stuff," I replied, "I'm a photographer."
>
> "Take my picture?" he asked.
>
> "Sure," I said, lifting the camera to my eye.
>
> Unprompted, he pulled up his shirt, I snapped the shutter, and with a
> big smile he yelled, "To The Body!"
>

Made me smile!

Great life and character in that photo.

cheers,
frank



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Re: Back from NC - Now with photos

[frank theriault]

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> It's amazing how different the physiology differs between running and
> cycling. This year I did much more bicycle training but I was still
> getting passed by people who I'm sure wouldn't be within an hour of me
> in a marathon. I mean, in smaller marathons I'm usually in contention
> for an age group award, but in a bicycle century I'm strictly mid-pack
> at best. The fact that it was a very hilly ride must have helped me
> because I was passing people all the time going up hills, cruising by
> when they were obviously gasping for breath and working hard... but on
> the next flat they'd blast past me so fast I couldn't even contemplate
> drafting.
>
> I can't decide whether I want to train harder to do this again
> *properly* or never, ever do it again at all!
>
> Here's the elevation profile:
> http://www.bloodsweatandgears.org/images/profile100.jpg

If you remember, Mark, that's exactly what happened when we went for
our brief (about 40 miles?) ride from the cabin in NC.  I was
horrendously out of shape, having busted my collarbone the previous
autumn, and had only been back on my bike for about a month (and had
the gut to show for it).

We were keeping together on the hills (both up and down, although
granted the roads we were on didn't have any ~big~ hills), but it was
on a flat that I pulled away from you.  I didn't do it on purpose, I
was just "taking a pull" at the bottom of a hill, and I didn't want to
slow you down, so I was keeping up the same effort that I did going up
the previous hill, thinking you were on my tail.  After a few minutes,
I looked around and you were about 1/2 a kilometre behind.

The legs were still there, but the lungs certainly weren't, which is
why I was barely keeping up with you (and I was huffing and puffing
while you weren't) going up hill yet was able to pull away on the
flat.

I guess carrying 15 or 20 extra pounds didn't help my hill climbing either, eh?

;-)

cheers,
frank

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Re: Back from NC - Now with photos

[ann sanfedele]

A little less crazed - so I'm back skimming list a bit...
really enjoyed this whole big GESO - and I like the way the page is set 
up, too

Userfriendly to all HTML stuff.

I don't know the answer to your Flower "what is it" But I can tell you
the name of the shelf fungus in this photo:

http://www.robertstech.com/blog/photos/gallery03/yesitsanotherfungus.html
Ganoderma tsugae.  

I love the spiderwort shot too... well, actually I love a lot of 'em...
hard to chose - sounds like a great time was had by all

ann


Mark Roberts wrote:

>frank theriault wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Mark Roberts wrote:
>>
>>
>>>http://www.robertstech.com/blog/photos/gallery03/
>>>  
>>>
>>Exquisite, Mark, just lovely!
>>
>>Especially the bike shots.  Italian CF.  Mmmm...
>>
>>
>
>Yep, CF, Italian or otherwise, is fine stuff. Aluminum is stiff but 
>really passes the vibration of the road through. My butt came through 
>this year's ride in much better condition than the last time I did this 
>century :)
>
>It's amazing how different the physiology differs between running and 
>cycling. This year I did much more bicycle training but I was still 
>getting passed by people who I'm sure wouldn't be within an hour of me 
>in a marathon. I mean, in smaller marathons I'm usually in contention 
>for an age group award, but in a bicycle century I'm strictly mid-pack 
>at best. The fact that it was a very hilly ride must have helped me 
>because I was passing people all the time going up hills, cruising by 
>when they were obviously gasping for breath and working hard... but on 
>the next flat they'd blast past me so fast I couldn't even contemplate 
>drafting.
>
>I can't decide whether I want to train harder to do this again 
>*properly* or never, ever do it again at all!
>
>Here's the elevation profile:
>http://www.bloodsweatandgears.org/images/profile100.jpg
>
>
>  
>



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Re: Work flow to convert a B&W film negative to a digital file for PUG

[wendy beard]

unfortunately they don't do business with customers outside of the US

On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Christine  Aguila
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jos from Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
>> I want to select before scanning. I expect 5 to 10 %  that I will want
>> to digitize. Can I tell to scancafe to scan only #6 and #24 of a set of
>> negative strips?
>
>
> Jos:  Scancafe lets you pic the scans you want--and you only have to pay for
> the ones you want! BUT, they do require you to purchase a 50% minimum--but
> that should be a problem when doing huge scan-jobs, right?  The chances of
> you wanting at least half of your scanned images seems to be pretty high.
>
> You should check out the web site.
>
> Cheers, Christine
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Re: PESO - Graduation

[David J Brooks]

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 9:40 AM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Nice shot. Congratulations to you and your daughter. Now you have college 
> tuition to look forward to:-)).

Maybe not.

Erin is in year 6, of a year off school, to see what she wants to do.  :-)

Dave
> Paul
>  -- Original message --
> From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> My middle daughter, Catherine, graduated from high school last
>> Thursday.  Of all the photos I took that evening, this one's my
>> favourite:
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/4msyne
>>
>> http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SGjVNB54jSI/Ca0/_9MtYPK1KsU/s1600-h/
>> jun_30_08+023.jpg
>>
>> I'll likely post a few others in upcoming days, but until then your
>> comments on this one are appreciated.
>>
>> cheers,
>> frank
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Re: PESO - Graduation

[David J Brooks]

Thats nice.
The open lockers, good symbolizing.

Dave

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 9:01 AM, frank theriault
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> My middle daughter, Catherine, graduated from high school last
> Thursday.  Of all the photos I took that evening, this one's my
> favourite:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/4msyne
>
> http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SGjVNB54jSI/Ca0/_9MtYPK1KsU/s1600-h/jun_30_08+023.jpg
>
> I'll likely post a few others in upcoming days, but until then your
> comments on this one are appreciated.
>
> cheers,
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Got myself a new Pentax lens

[Mark Roberts]

I just received a Pentax T132 achromatic (two-element) close-up lens. 
B&H had a used one for $59.00 so I thought I'd go for it. It appears to 
be in perfect condition. It's a +0.76 diopter lens, made for the 67 
system but I'm hoping it works reasonably well on the FA-80-200/2.8 (I 
know people who've had excellent results with the Nikon and Canon 
2-element diopters on this lens). It's a 67mm thread, but the DSLR crop 
factor lets it work without vignetting on the 77mm filter thread with a 
step-down adapter.

I'll do some tests in a couple of days to see what the resulting image 
quality is like. It'll be interesting to compare with the Sigma 180/3.5 
macro. It'll also be interesting to see how it works *on* the Sigma 180 
macro! Should get pretty good magnification with that combo. (On the 
Pentax 80-200 at 200mm it seems to get better than half-size 
magnification but less than life-size. I'm guessing approximately 1:1.5 
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Re: Back from NC - Now with photos

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On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 3:02 AM, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 29/6/08, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>
>>http://www.robertstech.com/blog/photos/gallery03/
>
>
> Lovely pics. You like your fungus.

Smooth talker you.

Dave
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Re: Back from NC - Now with photos

[David J Brooks]

Wonderful collection of photos.

Not your typical tourist shots.LOL

All are well composed and lit.

Good job

Dave

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> http://www.robertstech.com/blog/photos/gallery03/
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Peso Infrared horse show photo

[David J Brooks]

I took the G3 to the last day, Sunday of the three day show. The sun
was out for a while in the morning, so i took a few shots with it
during a warm up fro the first division.
Knowing the shutter lag is slow on these P&S's i timed my shot as the
front legs hit the ground just in front of the jump.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/2624693515/

This was the one and only try, as i nailed it.:-)

G3, Av at f8 and Tv at 1/400. LR adjusting just to see whati could get.

Looks not to bad in LR but way to light on a browser.

Comments welcome.

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Re: PESO 2008 - 103 - GDG

[Cotty]

On 30/6/08, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:

>  http://homepage.mac.com/godders/103-to_the_body.jpg
>   To The Body! - San Francisco Pride 2008
>   Olympus E-1 + Summilux-D 25mm f/1.4 ASPH
>   ISO 100 @ f/2 @ 1/320 sec

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Re: PESO - Graduation

[Cotty]

On 30/6/08, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:

>http://tinyurl.com/4msyne
>
>http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SGjVNB54jSI/Ca0/_9MtYPK1KsU/
>s1600-h/jun_30_08+023.jpg
>
>I'll likely post a few others in upcoming days, but until then your
>comments on this one are appreciated.

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Re: GESO - Portraits of Pride

[Cotty]

On 30/6/08, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:

>
>Comments always welcome and thanks in advance!

Great set of pics Frank, I like 013 and 005 the best.

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Re: PESO: we are the champions (not Spain)!

[Bruce Dayton]

Cute shot - could have used some fill to bring up their faces a bit -
cute nonetheless.

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Monday, June 30, 2008, 12:14:10 AM, you wrote:

HT> Picture which I took last week of my granddaughter with her team, with
HT> the K10D and FA 50/1.4.
HT> http://www.flickr.com/photos/mxer/2619389362/

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Re: PESO: we are the champions (not Spain)!

[Tim Bray]

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 12:14 AM, Henk Terhell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Picture which I took last week of my granddaughter with her team, with
> the K10D and FA 50/1.4.
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/mxer/2619389362/

Aww, that's both adorable and somehow heroic.  Thanks.  -T

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Re: GESO - Portraits of Pride

[Tim Bray]

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 6:30 AM, frank theriault
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This past weekend was Pride Weekend here in Toronto.  It used to be
> called Gay Pride, but now it's just Pride.  So many more than just gay
> men and women participate, it just makes sense to call it Pride.

Wow, a smile for Monday morning.  Thanks.  I liked the Mexican-looking
dude with the funny hat.  -t

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Re: Back from NC - Now with photos

[Mark Roberts]

frank theriault wrote:

> Mark Roberts wrote:
>>
>> http://www.robertstech.com/blog/photos/gallery03/
>
>Exquisite, Mark, just lovely!
>
>Especially the bike shots.  Italian CF.  Mmmm...

Yep, CF, Italian or otherwise, is fine stuff. Aluminum is stiff but 
really passes the vibration of the road through. My butt came through 
this year's ride in much better condition than the last time I did this 
century :)

It's amazing how different the physiology differs between running and 
cycling. This year I did much more bicycle training but I was still 
getting passed by people who I'm sure wouldn't be within an hour of me 
in a marathon. I mean, in smaller marathons I'm usually in contention 
for an age group award, but in a bicycle century I'm strictly mid-pack 
at best. The fact that it was a very hilly ride must have helped me 
because I was passing people all the time going up hills, cruising by 
when they were obviously gasping for breath and working hard... but on 
the next flat they'd blast past me so fast I couldn't even contemplate 
drafting.

I can't decide whether I want to train harder to do this again 
*properly* or never, ever do it again at all!

Here's the elevation profile:
http://www.bloodsweatandgears.org/images/profile100.jpg


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Re: Why to buy a K20D?

[John Francis]

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 01:38:37PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Underexposure and correction in conversion always results in severe noise.
> Don't kow why. But I know it happens, so I avoid it . . .

It happens because noise is (by definition) pretty much random.

If you underexpose by two stops, and correct in conversion, you're going
to get a certain amount of noise.   If, however, you expose correctly,
you're going to get four times the number of photons contributing to the
signal.  And while you have four times as much potential for noise, that
doesn't mean you're going to get four times as much noise.  While only
exactly true for Gaussian noise distributions, you can expect to see the
amount of noise go up by roughly the square root of the exposure gain.
This means that the signal-to-noise ratio gets about one stop worse for
every two stops of underexposure.

Ad to that the fact that for low sensor values you also get far more
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PESO 2008 - 103 - GDG

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Yesterday morning ...

   http://homepage.mac.com/godders/103-to_the_body.jpg
   To The Body! - San Francisco Pride 2008
   Olympus E-1 + Summilux-D 25mm f/1.4 ASPH
   ISO 100 @ f/2 @ 1/320 sec

Comments and critique always appreciated.

Back story to this one:
---
I was walking in the Castro before the San Francisco Pride Parade,  
taking pictures, when this man walking past stopped and asked what I  
was doing.

"Taking pictures of stuff," I replied, "I'm a photographer."

"Take my picture?" he asked.

"Sure," I said, lifting the camera to my eye.

Unprompted, he pulled up his shirt, I snapped the shutter, and with a  
big smile he yelled, "To The Body!"

enjoy
Godfrey

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Re: 1.7 Teleconvertor and DA 70 Lens

[Tyler Heibeck]

I tried it with the 77mm Limited and the results were good, more than
usable.  However, not as good as without the TC (as expected).  Actually
it made for a nice, but slow compact telephoto.  I ended up getting an
FA 135/2.8 so I don't have much need for that TC-lens combo anymore.

Tyler
On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 20:04:12 +1000, "Charles Wilson"
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> Dear All,
> 
> Has anyone tried the following combination?  What were your results.
> 
> Regards
> 
> 
> Charles Wilson
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Re: GESO - Harrisburg Critical Mass

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On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 9:36 PM, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The very first Harrisburg Critical Mass ride took place tonight.  Went
> very well.  Of course, I brought a camera and took a few snaps during
> the ride.  Pentax 750z on 'P', "I'm feeling lucky" with Picasa.  Nothing
> special, but if you're interested in this sort of thing
>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/HarrisburgCriticalMass

Cool shots, Scott!

Are there messengers in Harrisburg?  A couple of the fellows certainly
have "the look" - fixed gear or single-speed bikes, messenger bags
(Chrome bags are quite expensive), tatoos;  I'd say those guys are
either messengers or wannabes (called Fakengers in England and
Hipsters here in Toronto).

Smallish turnout, but hopefully it will build with time.

cheers,
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Re: PESO: we are the champions (not Spain)!

[Henk Terhell]

Carlos, it is a long time ago I watched football in BW :)

Henk

Carlos Royo schreef:
> That's a very good photo. I bet it would look even better after being 
> converted to BW.
> 
> Carlos
> 
> Henk Terhell escribió:
>> Picture which I took last week of my granddaughter with her team, with 
>> the K10D and FA 50/1.4.
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/mxer/2619389362/
>>
>> Henk
>>
> 

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Re: GESO - Portraits of Pride

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Excellent work, Frank! I like them all, there are a couple where the  
rendering might be improved a little bit.

Good stuff!

Godfrey

On Jun 30, 2008, at 6:30 AM, frank theriault wrote:

> This past weekend was Pride Weekend here in Toronto.  It used to be
> called Gay Pride, but now it's just Pride.  So many more than just gay
> men and women participate, it just makes sense to call it Pride.
>
> It all culminates with a huge parade, which I usually avoid.  The best
> pix are to be had on Church Street, a block from the parade, where
> most of the booths and activities take place.  It's a giant
> block-party!
>
> This is my first year there with a digital camera, and I had a blast.
> I've got hundreds of shots to go through, but last night all I did was
> "street portraits" of happy people.  Hope you enjoy:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/49zfex
>
> http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SGjT7ntHlcI/Cak/tnT- 
> BjGQWSc/s1600-h/jun_30_08+014.jpg
>
>
> http://tinyurl.com/3fc7sr
>
> http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SGjQjnpUfkI/CaM/ 
> endoLhRfbw0/s1600-h/jun_30_08+011.jpg
>
>
> http://tinyurl.com/46bmwh
>
> http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SGjQrOKSHgI/Cac/ 
> NnNR3zgKk0E/s1600-h/jun_30_08+013.jpg
>
>
> http://tinyurl.com/3uz9am
>
> http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SGjUBit6qKI/Cas/ 
> _6qmOvcdjTg/s1600-h/jun_30_08+017.jpg
>
>
> http://tinyurl.com/45khjr
>
> http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SGjQnGoWWqI/CaU/ 
> SdZnsAj_moo/s1600-h/jun_30_08+012.jpg
>
>
> http://tinyurl.com/4t77ev
>
> http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SGjPTWtUqcI/CZc/ 
> KqPZTnDYuSc/s1600-h/jun_30_08+005.jpg
>
>
> http://tinyurl.com/4qwc5d
>
> http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SGjPO93BzcI/CZM/ 
> 7iPv1DzgJJk/s1600-h/jun_30_08+003.jpg
>
>
> http://tinyurl.com/5xwwxn
>
> http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SGjPmDge-4I/CZ8/ 
> LORb2xS5JUQ/s1600-h/jun_30_08+007.jpg
>
>
>
> http://tinyurl.com/3zk4uh
>
> http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SGjPptWIMGI/CaE/ 
> XaVKaUskeYc/s1600-h/jun_30_08+008.jpg
>
>
> http://tinyurl.com/5xux7z
>
> http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SGjPTEoGMmI/CZU/ 
> tUuAJNu7C94/s1600-h/jun_30_08+004.jpg
>
>
> http://tinyurl.com/3ovskz
>
> http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SGjPh9R723I/ 
> CZ0/25plaZfKY-Y/s1600-h/jun_30_08+006.jpg
>

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Re: Back from NC - Now with photos

[frank theriault]

On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 9:41 PM, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> http://www.robertstech.com/blog/photos/gallery03/
>

Exquisite, Mark, just lovely!

Especially the bike shots.  Italian CF.  Mmmm...

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Re: GESO - Portraits of Pride

[Bob Sullivan]

Frank,
Those make an excellent collection of portraits.
It's surprising how many keepers you have.
You should look for a venu to display them.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 8:30 AM, frank theriault
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This past weekend was Pride Weekend here in Toronto.  It used to be
> called Gay Pride, but now it's just Pride.  So many more than just gay
> men and women participate, it just makes sense to call it Pride.
>
> It all culminates with a huge parade, which I usually avoid.  The best
> pix are to be had on Church Street, a block from the parade, where
> most of the booths and activities take place.  It's a giant
> block-party!
>
> This is my first year there with a digital camera, and I had a blast.
> I've got hundreds of shots to go through, but last night all I did was
> "street portraits" of happy people.  Hope you enjoy:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/49zfex
>
> http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SGjT7ntHlcI/Cak/tnT-BjGQWSc/s1600-h/jun_30_08+014.jpg
>
>
> http://tinyurl.com/3fc7sr
>
> http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SGjQjnpUfkI/CaM/endoLhRfbw0/s1600-h/jun_30_08+011.jpg
>
>
> http://tinyurl.com/46bmwh
>
> http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SGjQrOKSHgI/Cac/NnNR3zgKk0E/s1600-h/jun_30_08+013.jpg
>
>
> http://tinyurl.com/3uz9am
>
> http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SGjUBit6qKI/Cas/_6qmOvcdjTg/s1600-h/jun_30_08+017.jpg
>
>
> http://tinyurl.com/45khjr
>
> http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SGjQnGoWWqI/CaU/SdZnsAj_moo/s1600-h/jun_30_08+012.jpg
>
>
> http://tinyurl.com/4t77ev
>
> http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SGjPTWtUqcI/CZc/KqPZTnDYuSc/s1600-h/jun_30_08+005.jpg
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> http://tinyurl.com/4qwc5d
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> http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SGjPO93BzcI/CZM/7iPv1DzgJJk/s1600-h/jun_30_08+003.jpg
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> http://tinyurl.com/5xwwxn
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> http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SGjPmDge-4I/CZ8/LORb2xS5JUQ/s1600-h/jun_30_08+007.jpg
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>
>
> http://tinyurl.com/3zk4uh
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> http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SGjPptWIMGI/CaE/XaVKaUskeYc/s1600-h/jun_30_08+008.jpg
>
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> http://tinyurl.com/5xux7z
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> http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SGjPTEoGMmI/CZU/tUuAJNu7C94/s1600-h/jun_30_08+004.jpg
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> http://tinyurl.com/3ovskz
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> http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SGjPh9R723I/CZ0/25plaZfKY-Y/s1600-h/jun_30_08+006.jpg
>
>
> Comments always welcome and thanks in advance!
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
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Re: Sweep Revenge

[Christine Aguila]

Go Sox!  C


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> Sox take three from the Cubbies. The world is now back to normal.
> I was going to have Grace pose with a broom, but he's in bed.
> Next time:-).
> Paul
>
> PS: Lots of fireflies tonight. Grace was pleased.
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Re: Old & New

[Christine Aguila]

Dave:  Thanks.  I thought your picture nice even though I didn't know what 
it was, and now that I know, I still think your picture is nice :-)  Cheers, 
Christine


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> Urgh!!!
>
> Lets try that again:
>
> The object on the left is the film canister, the dovawhacky on the
> right is the SD card.
>
> Cheers,
>
> The Idiot
>
> At 10:16 AM 30/06/2008, David Savage wrote:
>>As Doug said the object on the right is the DX code strip of a film
>>canister (old). The object on the right is the contact "pins" of an
>>SD card (new).
>>
>>Cheers,
>>
>>Dave
>>
>>
>>At 09:03 AM 30/06/2008, you wrote:
>> >Dave:  I don't what it is!  What is it!  Cheers, Christine
>>
>> >From: "David Savage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > >
>> > > 
>> > >
>> > > K20D, Voigtlander 125mm f2.8 Macro, 1/80 @ f11, ISO 100, AF-540 FGZ
>> > > fired wirelessly off camera.
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