RE: chicks

2009-04-27 Thread Bob W
Me too, but still a beautiful composition and a very good scene to have, er,
seen.

Bob

 
 I'd like to see more detail in the adult's plumage, but still a good 
 capture.
 
 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com
 
 Subject: PESO: chicks
 
 
  Lots of bird photos this weekend.  Lots to sort thru.  Here's a
  sample.  Regards,  Bob S.
 
  
 http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/AlligatorFarm?authkey=
 Gv1sRgCMyHmumZrfaAgwE#5329201378236836130

 


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RE: Watching the man

2009-04-27 Thread Bob W

 Great subject here 
 http://www.web-options.com/Marathon/content/L1000152_large.html
 

Thanks - I like that shot.

 I didn't realize this was a fancy dress marathon :-)
 http://www.web-options.com/Marathon/content/L1000154_large.html
 

It's not fancy dress. He has to wear that hat because he has no natural
covering on his scalp, and the sun was hot.


 A good'ole soul
 http://www.web-options.com/Marathon/content/L1000147_large.html
 
 Must have been great to watch Sarah and Cotty work.  Thanks 
 for sharing.
 Cheers, Christine

Honoured - thanks for looking and commenting.

 
[...]
  Here are some shots:
  http://www.web-options.com/Marathon/
 
  Bob


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Re: Pentax K7

2009-04-27 Thread Thibouille
Being the highest end (IMO) DSLR Pentax ever made, it won't be cheap.
But 1500 US$ seems really a MAX although with the recent price hikes
relative to Yen currency fluctuation, it may be higher.
I have no solid information on this but I'd say 1300US$ or thereabout.


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RE: Oxford PDML, 17 May

2009-04-27 Thread Chris Mitchell
Count me in.

Chris

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 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Oxford PDML, 17 May
 
 
 
 Bob Walkden will be passing through Oxford on this year's 
 installment of his Thames walk on Sunday 17 May.  It seems a good 
 opportunity to gather, do some shooting around Oxford, and sink a 
 pint or two.
 
 Oxford is 1 hr 4 min by train from London Paddington, and Sunday 
 fares are low.  A little slower but more convenient and cheaper 
 (GBP 16 return) is the bus; Oxford Espress and Oxford Tube are 
 the two competing services.
 
 Let me know if interested, and we'll put something together.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Rick
 
 
   
 
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Re: Square sensor, was Re: Pentax K7

2009-04-27 Thread Thibouille
I highly doubt that but would like to be proven wrong, please do :)

On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 11:39 PM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote:

 Not really.  While you can pack rectangular sensors at 100% efficiency,
 you don't lose that much using circular sensors - the obvious layout
 only wastes a little less than 10% of the total area.  and that's if
 you assume infinite wafer sizes - for current wafer sizes losses at
 the edge are going to be at least as much.  It's even possible that
 for some wafer sizes a circular sensor results in less area wastage.

 On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 11:03:00PM +0200, Thibouille wrote:
 No, t would waste a lot more materials on a manufacturing point of
 view and as a consequence, pice would sky rocket.

 On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 9:22 PM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote:
  Yes, it would make more sense and waste less raw materials if the sensor 
  was
  a 36mm circular one.

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Re: Watching the man

2009-04-27 Thread Cotty
On 26/4/09, Graydon, discombobulated, unleashed:

I particularly like the contrast between Cotty epitomizing the English
stolid work ethic and the outbreak of athletic frivolity all around him.

LOL. Nothing stolid about it mate - money talks! :-)

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Re: Watching the man

2009-04-27 Thread Cotty
On 26/4/09, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

I was privileged this weekend to have Cotty as an overnight guest, and to
follow him around while he worked with one of his colleagues, Sarah, who ran
the London Marathon today for the first time.

It was very impressive to see their professionalism and watch how they
worked. There can't be many people who have to work  run a marathon at the
same time!

It's been a fascinating day for me, and a new way of experiencing the
marathon - I tend to get bored with it since it goes by so close every year.

Here are some shots:
http://www.web-options.com/Marathon/

Great set of pics Bob - the balcony shot and the three-shot of the
children are superb. So are the others - great to see you and thanks for
being the guide. I'll send you a DVD after the item is transmitted
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Re: Watching the man

2009-04-27 Thread Cotty
On 26/4/09, Bob Sullivan, discombobulated, unleashed:

Mark, Boston marathon was a lot more serious than London's...

This is the serious bit:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/athletics/8013090.stm



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Re: PESO: Moon, Mercury, and Pleadies tonight

2009-04-27 Thread Toine
I like it a lot!
Toine

2009/4/27 Walter Hamler hamlerwal...@gmail.com:
 http://walthamler.smugmug.com/gallery/4577390_6uHqv#521736794_vCCwe-L-LB

 Made a nice grouping about an hour after sunset. K20D w 200mm f/4 SMC.
  About 1.5 sec at f/5.6, iso 800.

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Re: Square sensor, was Re: Pentax K7

2009-04-27 Thread John Francis

It's fairly easy.  Start with the regular tiling of the plane by
hexagons.  Now inscribe a circle in each hexagon (so you end up
with rows of circles, with alternate rows staggered by half width).
A little simple mathematics shows that the area of each circle is
just over 90% of the area of the circumscribed hexagon.

On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 09:10:02AM +0200, Thibouille wrote:
 I highly doubt that but would like to be proven wrong, please do :)
 
 On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 11:39 PM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote:
 
  Not really. ?While you can pack rectangular sensors at 100% efficiency,
  you don't lose that much using circular sensors - the obvious layout
  only wastes a little less than 10% of the total area. ?and that's if
  you assume infinite wafer sizes - for current wafer sizes losses at
  the edge are going to be at least as much. ?It's even possible that
  for some wafer sizes a circular sensor results in less area wastage.
 
  On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 11:03:00PM +0200, Thibouille wrote:
  No, t would waste a lot more materials on a manufacturing point of
  view and as a consequence, pice would sky rocket.
 
  On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 9:22 PM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com 
  wrote:
   Yes, it would make more sense and waste less raw materials if the sensor 
   was
   a 36mm circular one.
 
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Re: Peso Cedar vein

2009-04-27 Thread Cotty
On 25/4/09, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:

Nice day in the hood today, so i went for a bike ride. We have a bit
of a cedar bush left in town, that was left after some town house were
built about 15 years ago.
There is some interesting light that gets through to the ground so i
decided to stop in today and see what i could get.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9047292

Interesting! Reminds me of H R Giger

http://www.linesandcolors.com/2006/10/04/h-r-giger/

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Re: PESO: Bubbles

2009-04-27 Thread Cotty
On 26/4/09, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:

K20D, DA* 50-135, f4 @ 1/4000th, ISO 200, 123mm focal length, 540
flash in high-speed synch mode.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9053471size=lg

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Re: PESO: hair today

2009-04-27 Thread Cotty
On 26/4/09, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:

A shot from prep time on my recent video shoot.

DA* 16-50/2.8, f4 @ 1/60th, ISO 1100

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9053343

I would have seen this very same video just last night except they
wanted me to subscribe


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RE: PESO: Grey Heron

2009-04-27 Thread John Whittingham
Hi Ann

Good to here you back, are you sure they're Great Bluie Herons? All the 
information I have points to grey. Maybe it's a geographical thing. Thanks for 
the comments, I went back yesterday but only got a fleeting glance of the 
Heron. I was really looking to catch the elusive Kingfishers there but no luck, 
came away with a photo of a Damselfly amongst others.

Best regards,

John

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Subject: Re: PESO: Grey Heron

JOhn and Joseph...
Just for the record, these guys you both shot are Great Blue Herons...
even though, as we all can see, they have more
gray than blue...

One of my favorite big birds...

Joseph, I like that  bottom one better --- book-end effect of birdies

John ...
got him nice and close  - too bad you were there before the good light
 - go back :-)

ann - who is back  herself for a bit...

Joseph McAllister wrote:

 On Apr 21, 2009, at 08:41 , frank theriault wrote:

 On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 6:07 AM, John Whittingham
 jo...@carmel.ac.uk wrote:

 Taken at Mere Sands Wood, Lancashire, Sunday afternoon. Very
 enjoyable day spent walking around a great wildlife location.
 Pentax K20D, Pentax DA*300 f/4 @ f/5.6, 1/1000 sec ISO 200

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9006271

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9006271size=lg


 I like it.  As others have said, a bit busy and the harsh light makes
 the bokeh a bit harsh as well, but given the restrictions you had
 working against you, it's very good photo.


 Rather ashamed to show my Heron encounter last week next to your
 maligned image. So if you want to feel better, John, take a look here.

 http://homepage.mac.com/jomac/Pentaxian%20GESO/

 Joseph McAllister
 Pentaxian

 http://gallery.me.com/jomac
 http://web.me.com/jomac/show.me/Blog/Blog.html


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Interesting DA 60-250mm test shots

2009-04-27 Thread Dario Bonazza

Looks very promising:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/richday/sets/72157617291558372/detail/

Dario

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DA* 60-250mm test shots

2009-04-27 Thread Dario Bonazza

Very promising:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/richday/sets/72157617291558372/detail/

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Re: OT PESO: shop's open...

2009-04-27 Thread Brian Walters
Hi Subash

On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 20:45 +0530, Subash pdml.l...@gmail.com wrote:
 hi,
 
 one from the beach today. shop's open:
 http://picasaweb.google.co.in/pdml.live/Peso#5329014586482455282
 

Very nice.  I like the light spill around the shop.


 and soon enough, there's a customer:
 http://picasaweb.google.co.in/pdml.live/Peso#5329016827149731602


Good too.  The boy on the left is acting just like kids all over the
world do around an ice cream cart.



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Re: Watching the man

2009-04-27 Thread Mark Roberts

Bob Sullivan wrote:

Mark, Boston marathon was a lot more serious than London's...


I dunno. I've run the Boston Marathon 3 times and seen plenty of runners 
in weird costumes and such.



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Re: PESO- fishing boat (was: PESOs - Fishy)

2009-04-27 Thread Brian Walters
On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 22:54 +0800, Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com
wrote:
 Sorta related in more ways than one...
 
 An outrigger used for fishing...taken by an old KX ;-)
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/3403411735/
 
 Btw, its my latest photo accepted in PPG (Jack: it's the one that was
 hanging in there...!)
 


That's a top composition.  I like the clean uncluttered surround to the
boat and the reflections.

(I'm pretty sure I gave this one a thumbs up in the PPG)



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Re: OT GESO - ANZAC Day

2009-04-27 Thread Brian Walters
On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 00:27 -0500, Christine  Aguila
cagu...@earthlink.net wrote:
 If I get the chance, I might try this recipe, Brain.  Maybe I'll bring
 them 
 to GFM, so we can all try them.  Thanks for posting.  Cheers, Christine



There's hundreds of Anzac Biscuit recipes, My mother-in-law used to make
the best ones.  They should be just slightly bendy.



Cheers

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 Subject: Re: OT GESO - ANZAC Day
 
 
  On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 07:01 -0400, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Not sure i know what ANZAC day is.
 
 
  April 25 is a public holiday in Australia and New Zealand.  ANZAC is an
  acronym for Australian and New Zealand Army Corps.  The day commemorates
  the servicemen and women who served in all wars and those who died.  The
  date was chosen because it was the date of the start of the disastrous
  Gallipoli Campaign in Turkey in 1915.
 
  As for the biscuits that Peter referred to:
 
  http://www.aussie-info.com/identity/food/anzacs.php
 
  (they are delicious)
 
 
 
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   I admit I am more than a little ambivalent about ANZAC day. But it 
   still
   makes me happy that the day isn't about displaying weapons and military
   might. Plus the young are marching when the old can't. So, not a
   representative story of the day, but here are a few shots I liked.
  
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Re: OT - contest requires waiving moral rights: reasonable?

2009-04-27 Thread mike wilson

 Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: 
 The City of Toronto is holding a photography contest via Flickr [*].  
 They plan to use winning pictures in official city business.
 
 I did a double-take at this clause in the agreement [**]:
 
 - You waive all moral rights in any of your winning photos and photos 
 that receive honourable mention.
 
 Is that a reasonable condition (or even legal) ?

Probably legal and pretty much standard, these days.  I used to get all upset 
about intellectual property rights but I am beginning to think it's an outdated 
concept.  If you produce something and place it in the public domain, no matter 
what conditions you assign, it _will_ (without a shadow of a doubt) be 
plagiarised, stolen, copied or otherwise used by individuals without 
acknowledgement.

If you wish to retain your rights you have to follow up any small theft or you 
could be accused of allowing your rights to cede by not defending them.  Is it 
worth the effort for you?

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Airshow

2009-04-27 Thread John Sessoms
Shooting WWII aircraft. What's a good compromise shutter speed.  I 
define good as sharp images of the airframe with a realistic blurring 
of the props?


I'm shooting an 80 - 200 fast zoom on a K10D. Hand held. High shutter 
speeds work for the jets, but 1/250 or above freezes the props on old 
piston aircraft - makes it look like the engine's stopped.


Aperture priority didn't work out as well as I hoped, nor was the 
mono-pod very effective - great for panning, but aggravating as heck for 
overhead shots ...


No way to use a tripod. If I'd set it up, some * would have knocked 
it over. As it was, I was constantly being jostled by idiots.



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Re: Watching the man

2009-04-27 Thread Graydon
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 08:10:01AM +0100, Cotty scripsit:
 On 26/4/09, Graydon, discombobulated, unleashed:
 I particularly like the contrast between Cotty epitomizing the English
 stolid work ethic and the outbreak of athletic frivolity all around him.
 
 LOL. Nothing stolid about it mate - money talks! :-)

Sure money talks, but the impression of detached competence -- hrm, this
Easter Bunny is on fire, better stop down a bit, with absolutely no
change in facial expression -- is still very English work ethic.

-- Graydon 

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Re: Watching the man

2009-04-27 Thread Doug Brewer

Mark Roberts wrote:

Bob Sullivan wrote:


Mark, Boston marathon was a lot more serious than London's...



I dunno. I've run the Boston Marathon 3 times and seen plenty of runners 
in weird costumes and such.


runners in weird costumes is redundant, no?

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PESO - intersections

2009-04-27 Thread Doug Brewer

detail of a parking garage in Louisville

http://www.drivingtheflies.com/?p=1129

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Re: Interesting DA 60-250mm test shots

2009-04-27 Thread Jack Davis

Why did you have to go and depress me, Dario? I'd pretty much decided to pass 
on this ether rumor, but now..I want to know how much. 
My only hope now is that my wife will decide it's too much.

Jack 


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 Subject: Interesting DA 60-250mm test shots
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 Date: Monday, April 27, 2009, 3:10 AM
 Looks very promising:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/richday/sets/72157617291558372/detail/
 
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Re: Airshow

2009-04-27 Thread mike wilson
Use shutter priority, then you can easily switch between 1/125 (works for most 
prop. planes) and faster for other aircraft.
 John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: 
 Shooting WWII aircraft. What's a good compromise shutter speed.  I 
 define good as sharp images of the airframe with a realistic blurring 
 of the props?
 
 I'm shooting an 80 - 200 fast zoom on a K10D. Hand held. High shutter 
 speeds work for the jets, but 1/250 or above freezes the props on old 
 piston aircraft - makes it look like the engine's stopped.
 
 Aperture priority didn't work out as well as I hoped, nor was the 
 mono-pod very effective - great for panning, but aggravating as heck for 
 overhead shots ...
 
 No way to use a tripod. If I'd set it up, some * would have knocked 
 it over. As it was, I was constantly being jostled by idiots.

Idiots are best dealt with by a wildly swinging 600/4.

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Re: PESO: Grey Heron

2009-04-27 Thread ann sanfedele


John Whittingham wrote:


Hi Ann

Good to here you back, are you sure they're Great Bluie Herons? All the 
information I have points to grey. Maybe it's a geographical thing. Thanks for 
the comments, I went back yesterday but only got a fleeting glance of the 
Heron. I was really looking to catch the elusive Kingfishers there but no luck, 
came away with a photo of a Damselfly amongst others.

Best regards,

John
===


Oh ... I didn't really think about where you live..
_Ardea Herodias_  is the latin name for ours 

I can state unequivocally( pardon the pomp)  that Joe McAlister's birdie 
is our Great Blue (because he photo'ed his in the  USA , but I stand 
corrected on your's - which is _ Ardea cinera_  - damn they look alike 
to me...   countrycousins, apprently.


Haven't found yet a piece on the subtle differences -  all I can think 
of seeing cinera is the poem by the poet

who reputedly died falling off a barstool whose initials are E D..hehe.

So yeah, it appears to be geographical beyond just a common name variance.  

But Elusive kingfisher hmmm - I can't seem to find a specific 
reference to. Is it a new subspecies?  (ann ducks)


Hope I can keep in the loop and do a bit more than lurk  -  so many 
good folk here.  I counted the names of
the people in the Annual who I had been fortunate enough to meet in 
person at least once - there were 24!
plus a few who are or used to be on list but have no photos in the book.  


Look forward to you finding the kingfisher.

best,
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PESO - Dicentra excimia

2009-04-27 Thread Bruce Walker
Sunday morning my wife excitedly told me that the Bleeding Hearts were 
out so I took a look in the back garden where she indicated. I peered at 
the small shapeless lumps and said that I couldn't see anything 
interesting about them at all. Instead of arguing with me, she just 
shrugged, so I put on my glasses and squatted to get a closer look. No 
good sight-lines anyway, I said. Winter dead garden crap all around.


Anyway, I eventually ended up lying flat on the ground on a lounger mat 
with the DA 35 macro and a 540FGZ flash above me on a deck chair. I'm 
really quite pleased with the results ...


http://snipurl.com/gu2gi

K20D, smc P-DA 35mm F2.8 macro @f/5.0, 1/1000, ISO 200, AF-540FGZ (w/ 
CTO gel) wireless HSS.


(This is straight out of the camera -- no sharpening, no PS at all. I 
just set the WB  tweaked the Vibrancy slider in ACR and converted to jpeg.)


Comments welcome.

-bmw

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Re: PESO - intersections

2009-04-27 Thread ann sanfedele

More fun if you don't know what it is :-)

but it really works...
ann

Doug Brewer wrote:


detail of a parking garage in Louisville

http://www.drivingtheflies.com/?p=1129

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Re: PESO: chicks

2009-04-27 Thread Bob Sullivan
Thanks Graydon,
I was on a walkway over a bunch of alligators in St. Augustine, Florida.
The place is an alligator zoo where the birds have set up a rookery.
Alligators don't climb trees, and the usual predators dare not visit.
http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/AlligatorFarm#5329350705552568802
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote:
 On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 10:08:39PM -0500, Bob Sullivan scripsit:
 Lots of bird photos this weekend.  Lots to sort thru.  Here's a
 sample.  Regards,  Bob S.

 http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/AlligatorFarm?authkey=Gv1sRgCMyHmumZrfaAgwE#5329201378236836130

 That's a great egret you've got there, Bob. :)

 Where the dickens were you standing?  The angle into the nest looks
 flat!

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Re: Interesting DA 60-250mm test shots

2009-04-27 Thread Graydon
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 05:44:28AM -0700, Jack Davis scripsit:
 My only hope now is that my wife will decide it's too much.

Mark!

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RE: PESO: Grey Heron

2009-04-27 Thread John Whittingham

But Elusive kingfisher hmmm - I can't seem to find a specific
reference to. Is it a new subspecies? 

lol, very rare apparently. I believe the last time a Great Blue Herom was seen 
over here the location was swamped by twitchers, GPS equipped and mobile 
(cell) phones. Probably a few Canikon 600/4's etc as well.

Regards,

John

From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of ann sanfedele 
[ann...@nyc.rr.com]
Sent: 27 April 2009 13:56
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Subject: Re: PESO: Grey Heron

John Whittingham wrote:

Hi Ann

Good to here you back, are you sure they're Great Bluie Herons? All the 
information I have points to grey. Maybe it's a geographical thing. Thanks for 
the comments, I went back yesterday but only got a fleeting glance of the 
Heron. I was really looking to catch the elusive Kingfishers there but no 
luck, came away with a photo of a Damselfly amongst others.

Best regards,

John
===

Oh ... I didn't really think about where you live..
_Ardea Herodias_  is the latin name for ours

I can state unequivocally( pardon the pomp)  that Joe McAlister's birdie
is our Great Blue (because he photo'ed his in the  USA , but I stand
corrected on your's - which is _ Ardea cinera_  - damn they look alike
to me...   countrycousins, apprently.

Haven't found yet a piece on the subtle differences -  all I can think
of seeing cinera is the poem by the poet
who reputedly died falling off a barstool whose initials are E D..hehe.

So yeah, it appears to be geographical beyond just a common name variance.

But Elusive kingfisher hmmm - I can't seem to find a specific
reference to. Is it a new subspecies?  (ann ducks)

Hope I can keep in the loop and do a bit more than lurk  -  so many
good folk here.  I counted the names of
the people in the Annual who I had been fortunate enough to meet in
person at least once - there were 24!
plus a few who are or used to be on list but have no photos in the book.

Look forward to you finding the kingfisher.

best,
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Re: Interesting DA 60-250mm test shots

2009-04-27 Thread paul stenquist

I don't believe that you're wife has a vote. Go for it!
Paul
On Apr 27, 2009, at 8:44 AM, Jack Davis wrote:



Why did you have to go and depress me, Dario? I'd pretty much  
decided to pass on this ether rumor, but now..I want to know how  
much.

My only hope now is that my wife will decide it's too much.

Jack


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From: Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it
Subject: Interesting DA 60-250mm test shots
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Date: Monday, April 27, 2009, 3:10 AM
Looks very promising:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/richday/sets/72157617291558372/detail/

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Re: chicks

2009-04-27 Thread Bob Sullivan
Ken, Christine, and Bob W.
Thanks for looking.
The adult's plumage is indeed washed out.  I needed to do more chimping!  :-)
This is a big crop from the A300mm f4, a nice lens.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 10:55 PM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
 I'd like to see more detail in the adult's plumage, but still a good
 capture.

 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

 - Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com

 Subject: PESO: chicks


 Lots of bird photos this weekend.  Lots to sort thru.  Here's a
 sample.  Regards,  Bob S.


 http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/AlligatorFarm?authkey=Gv1sRgCMyHmumZrfaAgwE#5329201378236836130


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PESO: Damselfly

2009-04-27 Thread John Whittingham
Waiting in a hide Sunday afternoon in the hope that a Kingfisher or Heron would 
make an appearence, when this little critter appeared on a branch in front of 
me. I had the Tamron 90 with me but decided I may miss the opportunity if I 
went for a lens change, besides 90mm would have been a little short. It was 
quite breezy and the branch was moving quite a bit, this was the best of 
several exposures.

Pentax K20D Pentax DA*300/4 @ f/4, 1/500th sec. ISO 400.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9059236

Large: 

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9059236size=lg

Comments  critique always welcome.

Best regards,

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Re: PESO - Dicentra excimia

2009-04-27 Thread Bob Sullivan
Bruce,
I especially enjoyed the dark, moody presentation and the extreemly
detailed look at the flowers.  The picture was worth the extra effort.
Regards, Bob S.

On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 7:54 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sunday morning my wife excitedly told me that the Bleeding Hearts were out
 so I took a look in the back garden where she indicated. I peered at the
 small shapeless lumps and said that I couldn't see anything interesting
 about them at all. Instead of arguing with me, she just shrugged, so I put
 on my glasses and squatted to get a closer look. No good sight-lines
 anyway, I said. Winter dead garden crap all around.

 Anyway, I eventually ended up lying flat on the ground on a lounger mat with
 the DA 35 macro and a 540FGZ flash above me on a deck chair. I'm really
 quite pleased with the results ...

 http://snipurl.com/gu2gi

 K20D, smc P-DA 35mm F2.8 macro @f/5.0, 1/1000, ISO 200, AF-540FGZ (w/ CTO
 gel) wireless HSS.

 (This is straight out of the camera -- no sharpening, no PS at all. I just
 set the WB  tweaked the Vibrancy slider in ACR and converted to jpeg.)

 Comments welcome.

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Re: PESO - intersections

2009-04-27 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 8:18 AM, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote:
 detail of a parking garage in Louisville

 http://www.drivingtheflies.com/?p=1129

 enjoy

Parking garage?

Cool shot.

cheers,
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Re: OT - contest requires waiving moral rights: reasonable?

2009-04-27 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 8:51 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 The City of Toronto is holding a photography contest via Flickr [*].  They
 plan to use winning pictures in official city business.

 I did a double-take at this clause in the agreement [**]:

 - You waive all moral rights in any of your winning photos and photos that
 receive honourable mention.

 Is that a reasonable condition (or even legal) ?


I don't know if it's legal or not (probably is) but I saw that clause,
too, and I'm not entering the contest because of it - oh yeah, I'm
also not entering the contest because I'm opposed to photography
contests generally, but that's another story for another day.

All these guys want is, for the tiny prize that they're giving out,
the right to use your photo whenever and wherever they want without
paying you.

Screw them.

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Re: PESO - intersections

2009-04-27 Thread Bob Sullivan
Is the horizon level?  Interesting and ambiguous.

On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 7:18 AM, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote:
 detail of a parking garage in Louisville

 http://www.drivingtheflies.com/?p=1129

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Re: PESO: chicks

2009-04-27 Thread Doug Brewer

where are the chicks? I only see some birds.

just kidding. Like mentioned before, I'd like more detail in the adult, 
but it's a keeper composition.


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Re: Won't wait

2009-04-27 Thread Luiz Felipe

Sorry, but I feel I should point out...

No matter what link you have to your ISP and how profee is my host, if 
your big brother won't talk directly to mine your questions and my 
answers may end up circling the globe twice by means of clogged wires, 
so there may be issues even if your ISP and my host use 
faster-than-wombat drives.


On old days of radiotalk, there was a mindset that would look for the 
faintest and most obscure contact, or for those cases of extraordinary 
access to places by means of usually impossible frequencies. I still 
suffer from that mindset now and then, and wait a little longer just 
because I hope (not always get) it's content is worth the wait.


Building an audience is part of a human drive - comunication. Some even 
learn foreign, strange languages to try a longer reach. Not me, I'm 
lazy... But any effort made to reach out is first that and I would still 
take the effort into consideration. Of course there is also the content.


I really respect your decision and your ideas (even while I disagree). 
There were lots of galleries I just didn't visit out of little time or 
being sad or angry, and I will be doing that again every time my time is 
limited - or I get in a foul enough mood. But on and everyday basis, I 
wait sometime. Hardly I get disappointed.


LF

Tim Bray escreveu:

The main reason I subscribe, not that I want to disparage the wit 
witticisms, nor indeed the hardware lore, is those every-so-often
things, you know, with pixels in them.  It's like they used to say
about Playboy mag: I just read it for the pictures.

But: I'm impatient.  So whatever your hosting setup is, if I click on
the PESO link and the screen on my browser doesn't have a picture on
it Pretty Damn Quick, I'm not waiting.  For those of you have personal
audiences who'll wait for your crippled-wombat-driven server because
they're your Mom or boyfriend or grad student or whatever, that's
fine, but if you're trying to build an audience (and I acknowledge
that many aren't, and that's fine), you just gotta have a snappy
server.  My time is my most precious commodity.

Good hosting is pretty cheap these days. -T

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Re: PESO: Moon, Mercury, and Pleadies tonight

2009-04-27 Thread Walter Hamler
Thanks for all the replies and comments. I really like it when I get a
good astrophoto! :-)

Walt

On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 3:37 AM, Toine to...@repiuk.nl wrote:
 I like it a lot!
 Toine

 2009/4/27 Walter Hamler hamlerwal...@gmail.com:
 http://walthamler.smugmug.com/gallery/4577390_6uHqv#521736794_vCCwe-L-LB

 Made a nice grouping about an hour after sunset. K20D w 200mm f/4 SMC.
  About 1.5 sec at f/5.6, iso 800.

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Yellow and gentle...

2009-04-27 Thread Roman Melihhov

http://roman.blakout.net/?year=2009s=0category=macroblog=20090427161555
^^^ That's real signs of the spring, besides the sounds of geese 
returning from the southern Europe on their seasonal migration.




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Re: PESO: chicks

2009-04-27 Thread Graydon
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 08:01:07AM -0500, Bob Sullivan scripsit:
 I was on a walkway over a bunch of alligators in St. Augustine, Florida.
 The place is an alligator zoo where the birds have set up a rookery.
 Alligators don't climb trees, and the usual predators dare not visit.
 http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/AlligatorFarm#5329350705552568802

That'd be a bad place to drop a lens cap, then. :)

Good for the egrets, though.

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My Son's Photo's

2009-04-27 Thread Walter Hamler
http://www.flickr.com/photos/31741...@n02/sets/72157613732310456/show/

My son, 26 yrs old, married last year, has taken up photography. He
had a very bad bike spill last year and has retired from the biking
routine. But he stays in touch with his friends by shooting pics of
them doing the risky stuff!

He started out with a Canon but has switched to the K10D. I loaned him
my grip and the FE zoom. If you look at the link above I think you
will find some that show a lot of promise.  I'm kinda proud!

Walt

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Re: PESO: Damselfly

2009-04-27 Thread Bob Sullivan
John,
That's a wonderful image.
The details are something we don't often see.
I don't think you needed the macro...
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 8:28 AM, John Whittingham jo...@carmel.ac.uk wrote:
 Waiting in a hide Sunday afternoon in the hope that a Kingfisher or Heron 
 would make an appearence, when this little critter appeared on a branch in 
 front of me. I had the Tamron 90 with me but decided I may miss the 
 opportunity if I went for a lens change, besides 90mm would have been a 
 little short. It was quite breezy and the branch was moving quite a bit, this 
 was the best of several exposures.

 Pentax K20D Pentax DA*300/4 @ f/4, 1/500th sec. ISO 400.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9059236

 Large:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9059236size=lg

 Comments  critique always welcome.

 Best regards,

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Re: PESO: chicks

2009-04-27 Thread Bob Sullivan
...or a memory card

On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 9:03 AM, Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 08:01:07AM -0500, Bob Sullivan scripsit:
 I was on a walkway over a bunch of alligators in St. Augustine, Florida.
 The place is an alligator zoo where the birds have set up a rookery.
 Alligators don't climb trees, and the usual predators dare not visit.
 http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/AlligatorFarm#5329350705552568802

 That'd be a bad place to drop a lens cap, then. :)

 Good for the egrets, though.

 -- Graydon

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RE: PESO: Damselfly

2009-04-27 Thread John Whittingham
Thanks Bob, the 300 wouldn't normally come to mind for this kind of shot, but 
it just happened to be mounted on the camera and I thought..well...go for it.

Regards,

John

From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bob Sullivan 
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John,
That's a wonderful image.
The details are something we don't often see.
I don't think you needed the macro...
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 8:28 AM, John Whittingham jo...@carmel.ac.uk wrote:
 Waiting in a hide Sunday afternoon in the hope that a Kingfisher or Heron 
 would make an appearence, when this little critter appeared on a branch in 
 front of me. I had the Tamron 90 with me but decided I may miss the 
 opportunity if I went for a lens change, besides 90mm would have been a 
 little short. It was quite breezy and the branch was moving quite a bit, this 
 was the best of several exposures.

 Pentax K20D Pentax DA*300/4 @ f/4, 1/500th sec. ISO 400.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9059236

 Large:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9059236size=lg

 Comments  critique always welcome.

 Best regards,

 John
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PESO - Eye Contact

2009-04-27 Thread frank theriault
The title just doesn't feel right to me, but I can't think of anything
better.  Feel free to suggest something more workable.

And feel free to comment on the photo:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/04/eye-contact.html

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Re: My Son's Photo's

2009-04-27 Thread Bob Sullivan
Walt,
Tell Nathan that's a nice set of pictures.  It does a great job of
conveying the action.
That's pretty accomplished for a guy of 26.  I wonder where he'll be
by the time he's 60?
Regards,  Bob S.

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 http://www.flickr.com/photos/31741...@n02/sets/72157613732310456/show/

 My son, 26 yrs old, married last year, has taken up photography. He
 had a very bad bike spill last year and has retired from the biking
 routine. But he stays in touch with his friends by shooting pics of
 them doing the risky stuff!

 He started out with a Canon but has switched to the K10D. I loaned him
 my grip and the FE zoom. If you look at the link above I think you
 will find some that show a lot of promise.  I'm kinda proud!

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Re: PESO - Eye Contact

2009-04-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

good photo! seems an apt title to me. :-)

G

On Apr 27, 2009, at 7:12 AM, frank theriault wrote:


The title just doesn't feel right to me, but I can't think of anything
better.  Feel free to suggest something more workable.

And feel free to comment on the photo:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/04/eye-contact.html



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OT - Bokeh of a human eye

2009-04-27 Thread Igor Roshchin

Enjoy!
 (from Internet - translated from Russian)

XXX: Has anybody noticed the bokeh of a human eye?
In night, go to a street with street lights, bring a finger close to
your eye, focus on it, and look at the blurred background. :-)

YYY: Yep, the eye has a perfectly circular bokeh!

ZZZ: And if you are pressing on your closed eyes with you hands, you can
see dead pixels! :-)

XXX: Don't push too hard, you can crack the sensor! :-)


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Re: PESO - Eye Contact

2009-04-27 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: frank theriault
Subject: PESO - Eye Contact


 The title just doesn't feel right to me, but I can't think of anything
 better.  Feel free to suggest something more workable.

Piss off and go away, namby little backpack boy

 And feel free to comment on the photo:

I don't get it.

William Robb 



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Re: PESO - Eye Contact

2009-04-27 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 10:17 AM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:

 Piss off and go away, namby little backpack boy

Yes!  I like it!


 And feel free to comment on the photo:

 I don't get it.

Me neither.

cheers,
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Re: PESO - Eye Contact

2009-04-27 Thread Dario Bonazza

Hey, there's truly something in this picture!
The eye contact, the different hair, clothing and stance of the young girls 
(have you noticed how the one on the far lefts stands out of the crowd?) and 
all the rest raise a lot of questions, so the picture asks for prolonged 
attention. I believe that questions are often more important than answers, 
and this picture is an excellent example of that.

Very well spotted Frank! The title isn't bad either.

Dario

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From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com

To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 4:12 PM
Subject: PESO - Eye Contact



The title just doesn't feel right to me, but I can't think of anything
better.  Feel free to suggest something more workable.

And feel free to comment on the photo:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/04/eye-contact.html

thanks,
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Re: PESO: Moon, Mercury, and Pleadies tonight

2009-04-27 Thread Luiz Felipe
Very good! Great moment (astral), 100% tech, a proper foreground - pity 
the very small amount of leave blur, close to impossible to avoid.


Impressive!

LF

Walter Hamler escreveu:

http://walthamler.smugmug.com/gallery/4577390_6uHqv#521736794_vCCwe-L-LB

Made a nice grouping about an hour after sunset. K20D w 200mm f/4 SMC.
 About 1.5 sec at f/5.6, iso 800.

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Re: OT - contest requires waiving moral rights: reasonable?

2009-04-27 Thread Luiz Felipe
If you won't allow them to use your photo in a campaign against [place 
your fave, immoral behavior here], don't accept.


Can't say it's legal, but I think they just don't want you telling the 
world about the real meaning of your photo, and how they misundertood 
your creation.


LF

Bruce Walker escreveu:
The City of Toronto is holding a photography contest via Flickr [*].  
They plan to use winning pictures in official city business.


I did a double-take at this clause in the agreement [**]:

- You waive all moral rights in any of your winning photos and photos 
that receive honourable mention.


Is that a reasonable condition (or even legal) ?

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Re: Moon, Mercury, and Pleadies tonight

2009-04-27 Thread Dario Bonazza

Excellent Walt, I like it a lot!

Dario


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Subject: PESO: Moon, Mercury, and Pleadies tonight



http://walthamler.smugmug.com/gallery/4577390_6uHqv#521736794_vCCwe-L-LB

Made a nice grouping about an hour after sunset. K20D w 200mm f/4 SMC.
About 1.5 sec at f/5.6, iso 800.

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Re: PESO: Damselfly

2009-04-27 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 9:28 AM, John Whittingham jo...@carmel.ac.uk wrote:
 Waiting in a hide Sunday afternoon in the hope that a Kingfisher or Heron 
 would make an appearence, when this little critter appeared on a branch in 
 front of me. I had the Tamron 90 with me but decided I may miss the 
 opportunity if I went for a lens change, besides 90mm would have been a 
 little short. It was quite breezy and the branch was moving quite a bit, this 
 was the best of several exposures.

 Pentax K20D Pentax DA*300/4 @ f/4, 1/500th sec. ISO 400.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9059236

 Large:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9059236size=lg


I like the way the wings and the leave immediately below the insect
mimic each other.  Wonderful detail:  those wings are so delicate!

Wonderful composition and a wonderful photo!

cheers,
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Re: PESO: Moon, Mercury, and Pleadies tonight

2009-04-27 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 9:27 PM, Walter Hamler hamlerwal...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://walthamler.smugmug.com/gallery/4577390_6uHqv#521736794_vCCwe-L-LB

 Made a nice grouping about an hour after sunset. K20D w 200mm f/4 SMC.
  About 1.5 sec at f/5.6, iso 800.

Stunning photo!

cheers,
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Re: PESO - Dicentra excimia

2009-04-27 Thread Jack Davis

Though slightly on the dark side (per my monitor..need I say it?). If this is 
the mood you were after, perfect!
I do gently suggest cropping some of the right side. 
Beautiful intricate blossom. 
Good thing you wife has the eye.  ;-))

Jack


--- On Mon, 4/27/09, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com
 Subject: PESO - Dicentra excimia
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Monday, April 27, 2009, 5:54 AM
 Sunday morning my wife excitedly told me that the Bleeding
 Hearts were out so I took a look in the back garden where
 she indicated. I peered at the small shapeless lumps and
 said that I couldn't see anything interesting about them
 at all. Instead of arguing with me, she just shrugged, so I
 put on my glasses and squatted to get a closer look.
 No good sight-lines anyway, I said. Winter dead
 garden crap all around.
 
 Anyway, I eventually ended up lying flat on the ground on a
 lounger mat with the DA 35 macro and a 540FGZ flash above me
 on a deck chair. I'm really quite pleased with the
 results ...
 
 http://snipurl.com/gu2gi
 
 K20D, smc P-DA 35mm F2.8 macro @f/5.0, 1/1000, ISO 200,
 AF-540FGZ (w/ CTO gel) wireless HSS.
 
 (This is straight out of the camera -- no sharpening, no PS
 at all. I just set the WB  tweaked the Vibrancy slider
 in ACR and converted to jpeg.)
 
 Comments welcome.
 
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Re: PESO: hair today

2009-04-27 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 A shot from prep time on my recent video shoot.

 DA* 16-50/2.8, f4 @ 1/60th, ISO 1100

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9053343

Very nice.  You caught the perfect moment.

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Re: I need a smallish monopod

2009-04-27 Thread Luiz Felipe
My current monopod is a local job, probably too long anyway since it's a 
four section, but a proper ball head makes much difference - so either 
take the head price into consideration or choose carefully one you 
already have.


I usually carry my tripods - and the mono - either with shoulder straps 
or soft cases. Maybe you could fix one of your current monopods to the 
outside of the backpack until you get the new one?


LF

Jim King escreveu:

Larry Colen wrote on Sat, 25 Apr 2009 14:59:47 -0700

(snip)

I'm looking for recommendations on a monopod, preferably under $50,
that'll fit in my backpack. I'm happy to buy a used one if someone has
one that is sitting around collecting dust


Sorry but I don't have one for sale.  However, I can recommend a couple 
of decent monopods:
- Bogen-Manfrotto Professional Monopod, Black Anodized, #3218, $60 at 
Adorama - 27 long when collapsed
- Adorama Podmatic 5 Section Monopod w/Case, $89.95 at Adorama - 14 
long when collapsed


I've seen the first and currently use the second of these.  Neither come 
with a head, you'll want a simple light head like the Slik Compact ball 
head.


Regards, Jim

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Re: Interesting DA 60-250mm test shots

2009-04-27 Thread Jack Davis

I just printed out your post to put on my wife's pillow tonight. 
You should expect an email with singed edges. 8-()

Jack


--- On Mon, 4/27/09, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:

 From: paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net
 Subject: Re: Interesting DA 60-250mm test shots
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Monday, April 27, 2009, 6:22 AM
 I don't believe that you're wife has a vote. Go for
 it!
 Paul
 On Apr 27, 2009, at 8:44 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
 
  
  Why did you have to go and depress me, Dario? I'd
 pretty much decided to pass on this ether rumor, but now..I
 want to know how much.
  My only hope now is that my wife will decide it's
 too much.
  
  Jack
  
  
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 dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote:
  
  From: Dario Bonazza
 dario.bona...@virgilio.it
  Subject: Interesting DA 60-250mm test shots
  To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 pdml@pdml.net
  Date: Monday, April 27, 2009, 3:10 AM
  Looks very promising:
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/richday/sets/72157617291558372/detail/
  
  Dario
  
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Re: PESO - Dicentra excimia

2009-04-27 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Though slightly on the dark side (per my monitor..need I say it?). If this is 
 the mood you were after, perfect!
 I do gently suggest cropping some of the right side.
 Beautiful intricate blossom.
 Good thing you wife has the eye.  ;-))

I agree with Jack;  there's a lot of space kind of doing nothing on
the right side.  Other than that nit, it's a lovely photo.

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Re: Interesting DA 60-250mm test shots

2009-04-27 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Jack Davis
Subject: Re: Interesting DA 60-250mm test shots



 I just printed out your post to put on my wife's pillow tonight.
 You should expect an email with singed edges. 8-()


Something I discovered is that to my wife, one lens looks pretty much like 
another. Eventually, you reach a tipping point where they just can't tell if 
a lens is new or if they just didn'notice it, and a short time later, they 
just stop noticing.
When I had three lenses, bringing a new lens into the house was difficult.
I no longer have that problem.

William Robb




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Re: My Son's Photo's

2009-04-27 Thread Jack Davis

Your son was smart to quit after one bad accident. I doubt you get many chances 
doing this lethal stuff.
Panning and timing, right on.

Jack


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 Subject: My Son's Photo's
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Monday, April 27, 2009, 7:04 AM
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/31741...@n02/sets/72157613732310456/show/
 
 My son, 26 yrs old, married last year, has taken up
 photography. He
 had a very bad bike spill last year and has
 retired from the biking
 routine. But he stays in touch with his friends by shooting
 pics of
 them doing the risky stuff!
 
 He started out with a Canon but has switched to the K10D. I
 loaned him
 my grip and the FE zoom. If you look at the link above I
 think you
 will find some that show a lot of promise.  I'm kinda
 proud!
 
 Walt
 
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Re: PESO - Eye Contact

2009-04-27 Thread Jack Davis

Hi, come on, we'll make room.
Very nice moment, Paul.

Jack


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 From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com
 Subject: PESO - Eye Contact
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net
 Date: Monday, April 27, 2009, 7:12 AM
 The title just doesn't feel right to me, but I can't
 think of anything
 better.  Feel free to suggest something more workable.
 
 And feel free to comment on the photo:
 
 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/04/eye-contact.html
 
 thanks,
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Re: PESOs Metcalf Rd

2009-04-27 Thread Luiz Felipe
The tree is too blue for me (never tought I would say that about blues), 
 but that's probably because you're too long into the night. The last 
two are my faves.


The barn - the flowers worked better agains the more blurred barn, I'd 
try one with more DOF and fight the wind on the flowers, at least as a test.


The one with the blurred lights is very interesting, but I'd try a 
longer blur, maybe a flash with second-curtain sync and low power... 
against the radar sign.


Even if it's plain sunlight, you never get exactly the same result - 
ever. At least, in my experience. Trying is fun, so... keep shooting.


LF

Larry Colen escreveu:

Tree at dusk:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3473744601/in/set-72157617314321580/

I stopped to shoot the lights of South San Jose at dusk, and turned
around to see the tree silhouetted against the sky. The shots I
stopped for didn't turn out like I had hoped, but the tree was fun.

A little while earlier, I had stopped to shoot an old barn:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3473799297/in/set-72157617223038203/

The impetus for the drive was another attempt at the horses on San
Felipe rd. Even though they were shot at about the same time as the
day before, maybe because they were in an open field, but the light
didn't seem to have quite the same quality.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157617224295429/

It's pretty easy to get decent shots of horses in a field, but getting
good shots is a lot harder than it looks. Though I suspect that you
can substitute just about any noun for horses in a field and the
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Re: PESO - intersections

2009-04-27 Thread Luiz Felipe

Now that's zigzag...

Disturbing indeed - didn't feel that so dizzy since my '01 barotrauma... :-)

LF

Doug Brewer escreveu:

detail of a parking garage in Louisville

http://www.drivingtheflies.com/?p=1129

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Re: Interesting DA 60-250mm test shots

2009-04-27 Thread Jack Davis

My wife closely scrutinizes our JOINT bank account. I know, I have no idea at 
this point how that happened. ;(
While auditing, she wears a green plastic eye shade and to hold her sleeves up, 
elastic arm bands.  

Jack


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 From: Jack Davis
 Subject: Re: Interesting DA 60-250mm test shots
 
 
 
  I just printed out your post to put on my wife's
 pillow tonight.
  You should expect an email with singed edges. 8-()
 
 
 Something I discovered is that to my wife, one lens looks
 pretty much like 
 another. Eventually, you reach a tipping point where they
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 a lens is new or if they just didn'notice it, and a
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 just stop noticing.
 When I had three lenses, bringing a new lens into the house
 was difficult.
 I no longer have that problem.
 
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Re: PESO - Dicentra excimia

2009-04-27 Thread Luiz Felipe

Dark mood?? Very interesting indeed.

LF

Bruce Walker escreveu:
Sunday morning my wife excitedly told me that the Bleeding Hearts were 
out so I took a look in the back garden where she indicated. I peered at 
the small shapeless lumps and said that I couldn't see anything 
interesting about them at all. Instead of arguing with me, she just 
shrugged, so I put on my glasses and squatted to get a closer look. No 
good sight-lines anyway, I said. Winter dead garden crap all around.


Anyway, I eventually ended up lying flat on the ground on a lounger mat 
with the DA 35 macro and a 540FGZ flash above me on a deck chair. I'm 
really quite pleased with the results ...


http://snipurl.com/gu2gi

K20D, smc P-DA 35mm F2.8 macro @f/5.0, 1/1000, ISO 200, AF-540FGZ (w/ 
CTO gel) wireless HSS.


(This is straight out of the camera -- no sharpening, no PS at all. I 
just set the WB  tweaked the Vibrancy slider in ACR and converted to 
jpeg.)


Comments welcome.

-bmw

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Re: PESO: Damselfly

2009-04-27 Thread Luiz Felipe

Very good! Impressive...

LF

John Whittingham escreveu:

Waiting in a hide Sunday afternoon in the hope that a Kingfisher or Heron would 
make an appearence, when this little critter appeared on a branch in front of 
me. I had the Tamron 90 with me but decided I may miss the opportunity if I 
went for a lens change, besides 90mm would have been a little short. It was 
quite breezy and the branch was moving quite a bit, this was the best of 
several exposures.

Pentax K20D Pentax DA*300/4 @ f/4, 1/500th sec. ISO 400.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9059236

Large: 


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9059236size=lg

Comments  critique always welcome.

Best regards,

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Re: Interesting DA 60-250mm test shots

2009-04-27 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Jack Davis
Subject: Re: Interesting DA 60-250mm test shots



 My wife closely scrutinizes our JOINT bank account. I know, I have no 
 idea at this point how that happened. ;(
 While auditing, she wears a green plastic eye shade and to hold her 
 sleeves up, elastic arm bands.


You're doomed, you realize.
Rule one, is don't let them have a joint account.

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Re: PESO: chicks

2009-04-27 Thread Luiz Felipe

Very good catch, Bob... keep posting.

LF

Bob Sullivan escreveu:

Lots of bird photos this weekend.  Lots to sort thru.  Here's a
sample.  Regards,  Bob S.

http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/AlligatorFarm?authkey=Gv1sRgCMyHmumZrfaAgwE#5329201378236836130

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Re: Interesting DA 60-250mm test shots

2009-04-27 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:

 My wife closely scrutinizes our JOINT bank account.

That's why you buy your toys with the other account.

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Re: OT PESO: shop's open...

2009-04-27 Thread Subash
On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 19:00:32 -0400
Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:

  http://picasaweb.google.co.in/pdml.live/Peso#5329014586482455282
 
 Very nice capture - if it were mine I'd crop out the thing-a-ma-jig
 on the upper RH edge, its distracting to me.

Ken, i have mixed feelings about that structure but i appreciate your
looking and the suggestion. thanks!

regards, subash

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Re: OT PESO: shop's open...

2009-04-27 Thread Subash
On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 20:50:48 +1000
Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote:

  http://picasaweb.google.co.in/pdml.live/Peso#5329014586482455282
 Very nice.  I like the light spill around the shop.
  http://picasaweb.google.co.in/pdml.live/Peso#5329016827149731602
 Good too.  The boy on the left is acting just like kids all over the
 world do around an ice cream cart.

thanks Brian. much appreciated. that little kid is actually the ice
cream vendor's son ;-)

regards, subash

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Re: OT - Bokeh of a human eye

2009-04-27 Thread AlunFoto
Igor,
Have you found the Custom Function for adjusting focus yet?
:-)
Jostein


2009/4/27 Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org:

 Enjoy!
  (from Internet - translated from Russian)

 XXX: Has anybody noticed the bokeh of a human eye?
 In night, go to a street with street lights, bring a finger close to
 your eye, focus on it, and look at the blurred background. :-)

 YYY: Yep, the eye has a perfectly circular bokeh!

 ZZZ: And if you are pressing on your closed eyes with you hands, you can
 see dead pixels! :-)

 XXX: Don't push too hard, you can crack the sensor! :-)


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Re: My Son's Photo's

2009-04-27 Thread Bruce Dayton
You should feel proud.  He has some good stuff there.  A great start
to a new 'Safe' hobby that I think could bring him lots of
satisfaction.  Keep working with him and sharing with us.

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Monday, April 27, 2009, 7:04:01 AM, you wrote:

WH http://www.flickr.com/photos/31741...@n02/sets/72157613732310456/show/

WH My son, 26 yrs old, married last year, has taken up photography. He
WH had a very bad bike spill last year and has retired from the biking
WH routine. But he stays in touch with his friends by shooting pics of
WH them doing the risky stuff!

WH He started out with a Canon but has switched to the K10D. I loaned him
WH my grip and the FE zoom. If you look at the link above I think you
WH will find some that show a lot of promise.  I'm kinda proud!

WH Walt

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RE: PESO: Damselfly

2009-04-27 Thread John Whittingham
Hi Frank

I hadn't really noticed that until you pointed it out. the detail intrigues me 
especially the eyes. Thanks for the comments.

Best regards,

John

From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of frank 
theriault [knarftheria...@gmail.com]
Sent: 27 April 2009 15:33
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Subject: Re: PESO: Damselfly

On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 9:28 AM, John Whittingham jo...@carmel.ac.uk wrote:
 Waiting in a hide Sunday afternoon in the hope that a Kingfisher or Heron 
 would make an appearence, when this little critter appeared on a branch in 
 front of me. I had the Tamron 90 with me but decided I may miss the 
 opportunity if I went for a lens change, besides 90mm would have been a 
 little short. It was quite breezy and the branch was moving quite a bit, this 
 was the best of several exposures.

 Pentax K20D Pentax DA*300/4 @ f/4, 1/500th sec. ISO 400.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9059236

 Large:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9059236size=lg


I like the way the wings and the leave immediately below the insect
mimic each other.  Wonderful detail:  those wings are so delicate!

Wonderful composition and a wonderful photo!

cheers,
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RE: PESO: Damselfly

2009-04-27 Thread John Whittingham
Thanks Luiz, much appreciated.

Best regards.

John

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Subject: Re: PESO: Damselfly

Very good! Impressive...

LF

John Whittingham escreveu:
 Waiting in a hide Sunday afternoon in the hope that a Kingfisher or Heron 
 would make an appearence, when this little critter appeared on a branch in 
 front of me. I had the Tamron 90 with me but decided I may miss the 
 opportunity if I went for a lens change, besides 90mm would have been a 
 little short. It was quite breezy and the branch was moving quite a bit, this 
 was the best of several exposures.

 Pentax K20D Pentax DA*300/4 @ f/4, 1/500th sec. ISO 400.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9059236

 Large:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9059236size=lg

 Comments  critique always welcome.

 Best regards,

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RE: Interesting DA 60-250mm test shots

2009-04-27 Thread John Whittingham
Same here for me, I think she just lost track, but I daren't have one delivered 
to the house. I'm convinced she doesn't know I have three DSLR's either.

John

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From: Jack Davis
Subject: Re: Interesting DA 60-250mm test shots



 I just printed out your post to put on my wife's pillow tonight.
 You should expect an email with singed edges. 8-()


Something I discovered is that to my wife, one lens looks pretty much like
another. Eventually, you reach a tipping point where they just can't tell if
a lens is new or if they just didn'notice it, and a short time later, they
just stop noticing.
When I had three lenses, bringing a new lens into the house was difficult.
I no longer have that problem.

William Robb




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Re: OT - Bokeh of a human eye

2009-04-27 Thread Igor Roshchin

Jostein,

Of course!
Only a lazy (sic) person doesn't know about LASIK.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LASIK

Fortunately, (I attribute that to good eyes of the QC), 
I've got a good pair and don't need that Function (yet).
:-)

Igor


Mon Apr 27 11:31:08 EDT 2009
AlunFoto alunfoto at gmail.com wrote:

Igor,
Have you found the Custom Function for adjusting focus yet?
:-)
Jostein

2009/4/27 Igor Roshchin str at komkon.org:

 Enjoy!
  (from Internet - translated from Russian)

 XXX: Has anybody noticed the bokeh of a human eye?
 In night, go to a street with street lights, bring a finger close to
 your eye, focus on it, and look at the blurred background. :-)

 YYY: Yep, the eye has a perfectly circular bokeh!

 ZZZ: And if you are pressing on your closed eyes with you hands, you can
 see dead pixels! :-)

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Re: PESO: Bubbles

2009-04-27 Thread Luiz Felipe

Very good Paul!

LF

Paul Stenquist escreveu:

Click to make it smaller.

K20D, DA* 50-135, f4 @ 1/4000th, ISO 200, 123mm focal length, 540 flash 
in high-speed synch mode.


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9053471size=lg

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Re: PESO: Bubbles

2009-04-27 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 5:42 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 Click to make it smaller.

 K20D, DA* 50-135, f4 @ 1/4000th, ISO 200, 123mm focal length, 540 flash in
 high-speed synch mode.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9053471size=lg

That's about perfect.

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Re: PESO - Dicentra excimia

2009-04-27 Thread Bruce Walker

Bob Sullivan wrote:

Bruce,
I especially enjoyed the dark, moody presentation and the extreemly
detailed look at the flowers.  The picture was worth the extra effort.
Regards, Bob S.


Even my wife, who much prefers literalism and F64-ism over my arty 
attempts, agrees with you. :-)


Thanks, Bob!

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Belgien: Übersicht zur Stahlindustrie

2009-04-27 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Lüttich:
HO 6 in Seraing ist endgültig aus. Die Sinteranlage in Ougrée ist aus.
Die Kokerei in Seraing arbeitet halbwegs normal. Der HO B in Ougrée
läuft auf kleiner Flamme, ebenso wie das Stahlwerk in Chertal. 

HO B und Stahlwerk werden angeblich zum 19. 5. stillgelegt, die Kokerei
zum gleichen Zeitpunkt zur Hälfte.

Charleroi:
Hochofen, LD-Stahlwerk und Elektrostahlwerk in Marcinelle sind aus. 

La Louvière:
Das Elektrostahlwerk macht Pause.

Gent:
Einer der beiden Hochöfen, Stahlwerk und Kokerei arbeiten.

Es wird nach dem 19. 5. keine Roheisenzüge nach Chertal mehr geben,
dafür aber regen Verkehr mit Coils, evtl. auch Brammen, von Dünkirchen
und Gent nach Lüttich.  

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Re: My Son's Photo's

2009-04-27 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Walter Hamler hamlerwal...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/31741...@n02/sets/72157613732310456/show/

 My son, 26 yrs old, married last year, has taken up photography. He
 had a very bad bike spill last year and has retired from the biking
 routine. But he stays in touch with his friends by shooting pics of
 them doing the risky stuff!

 He started out with a Canon but has switched to the K10D. I loaned him
 my grip and the FE zoom. If you look at the link above I think you
 will find some that show a lot of promise.  I'm kinda proud!

There are some ~terrific~ shots there!!

Did he use fill flash on some of the aerials?

I'd say he has more than just promise - looks like he's already there, to me.

Wonderful gallery.

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Re: Belgien: Übersicht zur Stahlindustrie

2009-04-27 Thread Doug Brewer

Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:

Lüttich:
HO 6 in Seraing ist endgültig aus. Die Sinteranlage in Ougrée ist aus.
Die Kokerei in Seraing arbeitet halbwegs normal. Der HO B in Ougrée
läuft auf kleiner Flamme, ebenso wie das Stahlwerk in Chertal. 


HO B und Stahlwerk werden angeblich zum 19. 5. stillgelegt, die Kokerei
zum gleichen Zeitpunkt zur Hälfte.

Charleroi:
Hochofen, LD-Stahlwerk und Elektrostahlwerk in Marcinelle sind aus. 


La Louvière:
Das Elektrostahlwerk macht Pause.

Gent:
Einer der beiden Hochöfen, Stahlwerk und Kokerei arbeiten.

Es wird nach dem 19. 5. keine Roheisenzüge nach Chertal mehr geben,
dafür aber regen Verkehr mit Coils, evtl. auch Brammen, von Dünkirchen
und Gent nach Lüttich.  


Ralf



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Re: PESO - Dicentra excimia

2009-04-27 Thread Bruce Walker

frank theriault wrote:

On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:

Though slightly on the dark side (per my monitor..need I say it?). If this is 
the mood you were after, perfect!
I do gently suggest cropping some of the right side.
Beautiful intricate blossom.
Good thing you wife has the eye.  ;-))


Indeed it is. She has a strong sense of what's possible. She looks at a 
bolt of cloth and sees a dress -- I just see rolled-up cotton. :-)


Re the darkness: I actually deferred to her judgment there. She was 
observing over my shoulder as I was about to launch into curves and 
brighten that up but she stopped me.  She much prefers darker, richer 
colours.  I'm hoping that it will look good printed.




I agree with Jack;  there's a lot of space kind of doing nothing on
the right side.  Other than that nit, it's a lovely photo.


Hey, that's not nothing, that's acres of buttery bokeh! :-)  But you're 
right and I am thinking about a square crop for this.



Playfully though, and also for my own education, would you also suggest 
to this photog (let's call him YK) that he should crop above the woman's 
head in this shot?


  http://snipurl.com/guk3j

After all there's absolutely nothing going on up there.


Thanks for looking and commenting!

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Re: Toughts... Pentax and Professional Photography

2009-04-27 Thread ann sanfedele



Christine Aguila wrote:


From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com


On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 4:38 PM, JC OConnell hifis...@gate.net wrote:


Dont forget that pro photographers can only do whats economically
feasable, some advanced amateurs have no such limitations. They can
reshoot somethiing a dozen times if desired to get it absolutely
perfect. A
pro usually can't. He has to use all his skill and knowledge to get
something
as good as possible in the time alotted, and be acceptable to client,
but in some cases an amateur can take it to
another level because there are no monetary or time limitations
involved.



Another very interesting post.  I'd never thought of it that way, JCO...




I agree!  Cheers, Christine 



So is someone who shoots only what they wish and manages to sell their 
art photography and survive on it a pro?

or a lucky amateur?

Anyone shooting on assignment within a specific time and place frame, be 
he/she someone who lives only
by the income from those things or does them occasionally to help feed 
the kitty or as a favor is in the same bind.

The worst of all possible binds being weddings, of course!

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Re: PESO - Eye Contact

2009-04-27 Thread Doug Brewer

frank theriault wrote:

The title just doesn't feel right to me, but I can't think of anything
better.  Feel free to suggest something more workable.

And feel free to comment on the photo:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/04/eye-contact.html

thanks,
frank



The title works very well. I don't think you could have timed this any 
better, Frank. Maybe a touch of crop on the right?


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Re: Canary Wharf

2009-04-27 Thread Luiz Felipe

...and keep the d...@#%ed tripod sober... :-)

LF

Jack Davis escreveu:

I suggest you use a tripod next time. BG

Jack


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From: Bob W p...@web-options.com
Subject: Canary Wharf
To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net
Date: Sunday, April 26, 2009, 4:37 AM
Cotty has been over here yesterday and today, shooting some
footage of the
London Marathon - more of that later. I took this picture
of Canary Wharf
last night while we were having a pint at my local:
http://www.web-options.com/L152.jpg

Bob


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Re: PESO - Eye Contact

2009-04-27 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote:

 The title works very well. I don't think you could have timed this any
 better, Frank. Maybe a touch of crop on the right?

I didn't time anything, the kids did.

;-)

I actually cropped quite a bit off the left.  For some reason I
thought I wanted a bit of space behind the boy (I don't know why, it
just felt that way).  I'll try a crop and see how it feels.

Thanks for the kind words, and thanks to Godfrey, Bill, Dario and Jack
for looking and commenting.

cheers,
frank


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Re: Belgien: Übersicht zur Stahlindustrie

2009-04-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

I get that as, roughly:

---
- Belgium: Outline of the steel industry futures -

Lüttich: HO 6 in Seraing is finally out. The sintering plant in Ougrée  
is out.


The coking plant in Seraing works halfway normally.

The HO B in Ougrée runs on small flame, just as the steel plant in  
Chertal.


HO B and steel plant become allegedly shut down May 19, the coking  
plant at the same time to the half.


Charleroi: Blast furnace, LD-steel plant and electric steel plant in  
Marcinelle are out.


La Louvière: The electric steel plant makes break.

Gent: One of the two blast furnaces, steel plant and coking plant  
still producing. After May 19: no more pig iron courses after Chertal  
gives out, but however move traffic with Coils, possibly also to  
slabs, from Dünkirchen and Gent to Lüttich.

---

I'm still not entirely sure what it means.

Godfrey

On Apr 27, 2009, at 10:03 AM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:


Lüttich:
HO 6 in Seraing ist endgültig aus. Die Sinteranlage in Ougrée ist aus.
Die Kokerei in Seraing arbeitet halbwegs normal. Der HO B in Ougrée
läuft auf kleiner Flamme, ebenso wie das Stahlwerk in Chertal.

HO B und Stahlwerk werden angeblich zum 19. 5. stillgelegt, die  
Kokerei

zum gleichen Zeitpunkt zur Hälfte.

Charleroi:
Hochofen, LD-Stahlwerk und Elektrostahlwerk in Marcinelle sind aus.

La Louvière:
Das Elektrostahlwerk macht Pause.

Gent:
Einer der beiden Hochöfen, Stahlwerk und Kokerei arbeiten.

Es wird nach dem 19. 5. keine Roheisenzüge nach Chertal mehr geben,
dafür aber regen Verkehr mit Coils, evtl. auch Brammen, von Dünkirchen
und Gent nach Lüttich.

Ralf

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Re: Square sensor, was Re: Pentax K7

2009-04-27 Thread Luiz Felipe
...one thing we agree for sure - that line feed from next dimension has 
returned.


While we get the more of the image circle area with a square cut, we 
also get the less possible one-way coverage... meaning less elbow room 
in family pics and more auntie legs - and carpet, and ceiling...


Personal taste - that's where the real discussion about square or 
retangular formats lies. I used both formats while young, and like the 
retangular a little more, for average situations. Personal taste. Square 
types are welcome, as long as the content fits. One of my issues with 
the hassel was the vertical waste on many of my photos with the 66 back. 
Glad I had the 645 for those prints...


Rather than a possible but not probable square, I'd wonder about an 
alternate APS size that would perhaps be covered by the current image 
circle of the lenses. Maybe even with an extraterrorestrial algorithm to 
correct the light fall-off in the corners. Maybe enough to push current 
14mp to 16+ without breaking too many eggs.


LF (ok, just another wild theory)



William Robb escreveu:
- Original Message - 
From: JC OConnell

Subject: RE: Square sensor, was Re: Pentax K7



SQUARE has two huge advantages:

1. No need to rotate camera for portrait orientation if using a cropped
retanglular subset of the square

2. More efficient usage of the lens image circle if and when the full
square image is used.

The key to making #1 advantage work is to have a specailly marked or
masked viewfinder/film-sensor-software gate

Regarding #2, with the small circle DA lenses, you could achieve higher
overall image resolution with the full square format
because you would be recording more of the image circle.

There are cons of course to square format, biggest of which is you end
up with a larger heavier camera than
you need if you never use the full square format.




Most of the old pro boys that I know cut their teeth with square format 
cameras, either Hassies or Rollieflexes.
Generally, they say that once you learn how to take advantage of the square 
format, there is just no going back to rectangular prints.
Now, to be fair, these guys are all portraitists, but a couple of them are 
award winning landscape photographers using the square format.

I actually quite like the square format.
I have an easier time composing on the 4x5 and 6x7 than 2:3 cameras, I think 
in part because the format is closer to square.


We're back to carriage return hell, BTW.

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Re: OT - contest requires waiving moral rights: reasonable?

2009-04-27 Thread Bruce Walker

Bob W wrote:
The City of Toronto is holding a photography contest via Flickr [*].  
They plan to use winning pictures in official city business.


I did a double-take at this clause in the agreement [**]:

- You waive all moral rights in any of your winning photos and photos 
that receive honourable mention.




There are probably other parts of the terms which give them the right to
reuse the pictures for their own purposes.

It is not the same as waiving copyright, and doesn't allow them to sell your
work on.

Bob


Ah, that's (ie copyright) an important point. Thanks, Bob. I hadn't 
encountered the phrase before and was unsure of it.


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Re: Square sensor, was Re: Pentax K7

2009-04-27 Thread Luiz Felipe

LOL!!!

I'll make my CD covers only from square-sensor cameras...

...personal taste...

LF

Godfrey DiGiorgi escreveu:
I grew up with a Rolleiflex TLR. I love square photos, although for 
practical reasons most of my photos are rectangular. 2:3 format always 
seems too oblong for my taste, I find 3:4 and slightly squarer 
proportions more appealing. It's definitely one of the reasons I like 
FourThirds format. A square sensor would do me very nicely.


Square format photographs have been the standard for record albums, CD 
jewel cases, etc for, what, 60 years? It's a pretty big niche.


Godfrey

On Apr 26, 2009, at 8:08 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Certainly not marketable. Most photographers are conditioned to using 
the rectangle to shape their work. I shot 6x6 for many years. Never 
did like it, never will. Square is definitely a niche market. And  
yes, Hasselblad and other MF makers have been successful in that 
niche, but it's still a niche.


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