RE: Galia and Boris PESO #14

2009-04-29 Thread John Coyle
Look out Boris, she's pretty good at this, and she'll be commandeering all
your gear before too long.
Good eye for such a youngster.


John in Brisbane



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From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
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Sent: Tuesday, 28 April 2009 10:11 PM
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Subject: Galia and Boris PESO #14

Hi!

 From now on whenever opportunity permits, I shall publish photos that 
Galia made along with those of mine.

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2009/04/peso-2009-014.html

Please be brutal and honest.

Thanks.

Boris (and Galia)


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Re: K 7 D FFN

2009-04-29 Thread AlunFoto
The prism housing reminds me of the LX.
http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/bodies/LX/LX_new.html

Looks like they've tried to make a sort of classic design to it.

Jostein

2009/4/29 Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com:
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 This thing that you see,
 Why in the world,
 Would it excite me?
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Re: K 7 D FFN

2009-04-29 Thread Thibouille
Faked pic.

But the true pics are nice as well :)

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 http://homepage.mac.com/jomac/Pentax%20K7%20ffn/


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 Why in the world,
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Re: K7 or ?

2009-04-29 Thread Thibouille
K-7 to be precise :)
Oh, and remember to upgrade your SD cards capacity: HD video eats so
much space... :p
You may as well look for a good external microphone.

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Re: PESO - Albino Bluebells

2009-04-29 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/28/2009 1:27:44 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
rwomer1...@yahoo.com writes:
There's a mutant in every  crowd...

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9069373

(K10D and  DA 50-200)

Rick

==
Nice shot. And very unusual.  

Marnie aka Doe  :-)

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Re: Watching the man

2009-04-29 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/26/2009 3:25:36 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
p...@web-options.com writes:
I was privileged this  weekend to have Cotty as an overnight guest, and to
follow him around while  he worked with one of his colleagues, Sarah, who 
ran
the London Marathon  today for the first time. 

It was very impressive to see their  professionalism and watch how they
worked. There can't be many people who  have to work  run a marathon at the
same time! 

It's been a  fascinating day for me, and a new way of experiencing the
marathon - I tend  to get bored with it since it goes by so close every 
year.

Here are some  shots:
http://www.web-options.com/Marathon/

Bob

=
Interesting  gallery. I really love the flag shot.

Marnie aka Doe  :-)

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Re: PESO: reading

2009-04-29 Thread Rick Womer

Luka,

I'm rather behind on my PDML messages!

I like all three a lot.  They are =very= sharp, and the high-key lighting is 
beautiful.  The subjects have lots of personality and appeal.

Rick

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 From: Luka Knezevic-Strika lukastr...@gmail.com
 Subject: PESO: reading
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 Date: Wednesday, April 15, 2009, 4:51 PM
 the book is photography of the XX - museum ludwig,
 cologne
 
 
 
 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3589/3443181822_73c4894222.jpg
 
 
 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3349/3442364627_d37cf3f67d.jpg
 
 
 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3401/3443180508_fcc817b9b9.jpg
 
 pentax k10d, fa 50 1.4
 
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Re: K 7 D FFN

2009-04-29 Thread John Celio

http://homepage.mac.com/jomac/Pentax%20K7%20ffn/


That looks like a poorly-made fake.

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Re: PESOs Metcalf Rd

2009-04-29 Thread Rick Womer

Larry,

The tree shot doesn't excite me.

I like the composition and the flowers in the barn shot; I wish the barn were 
either sharper or more blurred.

Among the horsey shots, I like nos. 1, 2, 5, and 6.  The others have critical 
parts hidden or lopped off (I spent 15 minutes with uncooperative horses on 
Sunday).  I still hate Flickr.

Cheers,

Rick

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--- On Sun, 4/26/09, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com
 Subject: PESOs  Metcalf Rd
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 Date: Sunday, April 26, 2009, 7:22 PM
 Tree at dusk:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3473744601/in/set-72157617314321580/
 
 I stopped to shoot the lights of South San Jose at dusk,
 and turned
 around to see the tree silhouetted against the sky. The
 shots I
 stopped for didn't turn out like I had hoped, but the
 tree was fun.
 
 A little while earlier, I had stopped to shoot an old barn:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3473799297/in/set-72157617223038203/
 
 The impetus for the drive was another attempt at the horses
 on San
 Felipe rd. Even though they were shot at about the same
 time as the
 day before, maybe because they were in an open field, but
 the light
 didn't seem to have quite the same quality.
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157617224295429/
 
 It's pretty easy to get decent shots of horses in a
 field, but getting
 good shots is a lot harder than it looks. Though I suspect
 that you
 can substitute just about any noun for horses in a
 field and the
 sentence will still be true.
 
 
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Re: K 7 D FFN

2009-04-29 Thread Thibouille
That one is genuine:

http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/2462/k71.jpg
or
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Re: K 7 D FFN

2009-04-29 Thread Thibouille
That one genuine as well:

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/9629/k72.jpg
or
http://yfrog.com/7ak72j

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Re: PESO - Albino Bluebells

2009-04-29 Thread Rick Womer


--- On Tue, 4/28/09, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote:

 Rick Womer wrote:
  There's a mutant in every crowd...
 
 you rang?

Har!
 
  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9069373

 
 ah...
 
 any way to see that bigger? It deserves it.
 
Glad to oblige, though it doesn't quite fit a browser window on my 
900-pixel-tall laptop screen:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9073191

Cheers,

Rick


  

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Re: PESO- fishing boat (was: PESOs - Fishy)

2009-04-29 Thread Rick Womer

Absolutely beautiful, Bong.  Great composition and light, very peaceful.

It's very small on Flickr, though, and takes 30 seconds to load on PPG (and is 
still rather small).

Cheers,

Rick

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--- On Sun, 4/26/09, Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com
 Subject: PESO- fishing boat (was: PESOs - Fishy)
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Sunday, April 26, 2009, 10:54 AM
 Sorta related in more ways than one...
 
 An outrigger used for fishing...taken by an old KX ;-)
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/3403411735/
 
 Btw, its my latest photo accepted in PPG (Jack: it's
 the one that was
 hanging in there...!)
 
 Bong
 
 On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 4:33 AM, DagT
 li...@thrane.name wrote:
  Everyone else is talking about the new camera while
 I´m playing with an old
  MX, Fisheye 17mm f/4 and b/w film .-)
 
  http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=905836
 
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Re: K 7 D FFN

2009-04-29 Thread AlunFoto
Heh.

Whatever... :-)


2009/4/29 Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com:
 That one genuine as well:

 http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/9629/k72.jpg
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Re: PESO - Badbury Clump

2009-04-29 Thread paul stenquist

Agreed. Superb pic of a surreal scene.
Paul
On Apr 29, 2009, at 12:39 AM, Ken Waller wrote:


Wonderful capture - has an unreal feel to it.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - From: Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com
Subject: PESO - Badbury Clump




Fourteen years ago, I accidentally came upon this place at the  
height of bluebell season.  It is a beech wood on the site of an  
Iron Age hill fort, about 25 miles southwest of Oxford.  I thought  
it was magical, and have been looking forward to getting back ever  
since.  This past weekend we spent an hour there.


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9069212size=lg

(K10D and DA 16-45)

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Re: PESO Pano before the renovation

2009-04-29 Thread Toine
Distorted while panning/rotating the pano? That would be normal the
viewer projects the image on screen like a normal wide angle lens
would. Zooming out (- button) results in less wideangle and less
distortion.

Toine

2009/4/29 Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com:

 The geometry in the 2nd gets a bit distorted (watch the chairs).


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Re: K 7 D FFN

2009-04-29 Thread Cotty
On 28/4/09, Joseph McAllister, discombobulated, unleashed:

http://homepage.mac.com/jomac/Pentax%20K7%20ffn/


If it doesn't excite you,
This thing that you see,
Why in the world,
Would it excite me?
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Wow - that's one hell of a sexy camera.

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Re: PESO - Badbury Clump

2009-04-29 Thread Cotty
On 28/4/09, Rick Womer, discombobulated, unleashed:

It's on the road from Faringdon to Highworth (B4019), a couple of miles
outside Faringdon.

Ok - I saw you were down in Wallingford at some point. If you cross over
the roundabout east and head up to Henley, you go up over the hills near
Nettlebed. Turn right and head towards Highmoor Cross and along that
road there is plenty of forest with easy access and bluebells :-)


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Re: PESO Pano before the renovation

2009-04-29 Thread Rick Womer

That's old?

Anyway, the exposures came out very well.  Interesting seeing a fisheye pano, 
too--I may have to try that some day.

Rick

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--- On Tue, 4/28/09, Toine to...@repiuk.nl wrote:

 Our university is building a new library. To be more precise
 an old
 existing building will be renovated. I plan to shoot a
 series of
 pano's during the 2 years of the rebuilding.
 Today I started shooting the empty (old) building:
 
 http://www.repiuk.nl/images/pano2vr/pano_whal_28apr2009_1.html
 
 http://www.repiuk.nl/images/pano2vr/pano_whal_28apr2009r_6.html
 
 K20D DA10-17 +2,0,-2 bracketing. Warning the (Flash) files
 are large (4-5Mb).
 
 No lights inside and heavy overcast weather outside. What
 else to do
 but shoot HDR. Maybe a little overdone what do you think?
 
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Re: OT - I'm Safe Now

2009-04-29 Thread AlunFoto
Is it officially a pandemic yet? I'd agree to epidemic off-hand, for
sure, but it seems a bit difficult to see the true picture through the
media noise. :-(

Anyway, last I heard on the news is that mortality seems way much
higher in Mexico than outside the country, which puzzles the
scientists.

But what's a good doomsday, Pentax related or not, if we can't joke about it?

Jostein

2009/4/28 frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com:
 On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 4:25 PM, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote:
 Er.. I mean, Mark.
 Sorry.
 I'll go and blow my nose now.
 :-)

 Are you mocking the pig flu?

 Don't ever mock a pandemic!

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Re: PESO - Badbury Clump

2009-04-29 Thread Christian

Rick Womer wrote:

Fourteen years ago, I accidentally came upon this place at the height of 
bluebell season.  It is a beech wood on the site of an Iron Age hill fort, 
about 25 miles southwest of Oxford.  I thought it was magical, and have been 
looking forward to getting back ever since.  This past weekend we spent an hour 
there.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9069212size=lg

(K10D and DA 16-45)

Rick


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Re: K 7 D FFN

2009-04-29 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Thibouille
Subject: Re: K 7 D FFN


Faked pic.

But the true pics are nice as well :)


Prism from an LX, the body looks like it started life as an old Minolta 7000 
and then got some stuff pasted onto it.

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Re: Oxford PDML 17 May or 14 June?

2009-04-29 Thread mike wilson
Will consult.  BTW, do you want the papoose back?

 AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: 
 Must be London between Wednesday and Friday. Could plan to go
 somewhere for the week-end.
 Jostein
 
 2009/4/28 mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com:
  London?
 
   AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote:
  No options for 27-30 May?
 
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april pug comments

2009-04-29 Thread Scott Loveless
I think the following are my favorites of the bunch.

Contemplation II by Filip Nicolai
Water, the gift of Nature by George K. Vlachou
Foam and Froth by Brian Walters

If I had to pick a winner, which thankfully I don't, it would be George's.

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PESO: View from The Pavilion

2009-04-29 Thread Paul Stenquist
While shooting virtual tours for real estate, I sometimes come across  
unusual buildings. I shot tours at a building in downtown Detroit the  
other day that surprised me. Built in 1957, it struck me as having  
been well ahead of its time. The architectural style looked familiar,  
so I checked when I got home and discovered that it was designed by  
Mies van der Rohe and is on the National Register of Historic Places.  
The exterior of the 20 story apartment building is mostly windows,  
framed in metal. The lobby is all black marble. It's in excellent  
condition and 95% occupied. The building is situated at the eastern  
edge of downtown, and its framed by a nice little park. The attached  
pic is the view from a 15th floor apartment. You can see the GM  
building (formerly the Renaissance Center and quite possibly soon to  
be something else) at the far left. Ford Field, the domed stadium, is  
at the far right. The shot is a composite of three frames from the  
pano I shot in this apartment. They're 16mm verticals, f13 @ about 1/4  
second, ISO 200. Click to make it larger:


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PESO - Aston Martin on Queen West

2009-04-29 Thread frank theriault
Another lame title, but one of my favourite cars:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/04/aston-martin-on-queen-west.html

I wish I had a bit more space in front of the car, but that's the edge
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Re: OT - I'm Safe Now

2009-04-29 Thread mike wilson

 AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: 
 Is it officially a pandemic yet? I'd agree to epidemic off-hand, for
 sure, but it seems a bit difficult to see the true picture through the
 media noise. :-(
 
 Anyway, last I heard on the news is that mortality seems way much
 higher in Mexico than outside the country, which puzzles the
 scientists.
 
 But what's a good doomsday, Pentax related or not, if we can't joke about it?
 
 Jostein

Latest news here is that it's hitting certain ethnic and cultural minorities 
badly.  They can't stand to be covered in rashers.

 
 2009/4/28 frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com:
  On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 4:25 PM, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote:
  Er.. I mean, Mark.
  Sorry.
  I'll go and blow my nose now.
  :-)
 
  Are you mocking the pig flu?
 
  Don't ever mock a pandemic!
 
  cheers,
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Re: PESO - Aston Martin on Queen West

2009-04-29 Thread Paul Stenquist

Nice pan. Well done. And, yes, a great car.
Paul
On Apr 29, 2009, at 9:55 AM, frank theriault wrote:


Another lame title, but one of my favourite cars:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/04/aston-martin-on-queen-west.html

I wish I had a bit more space in front of the car, but that's the edge
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Re: K 7 D FFN

2009-04-29 Thread Anthony Farr
That image was debunked a couple of days back.  It was 'shopped from
this image of the aborted MZ-1:

http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-film-slr-discussion/22338-pentax-mz-1-a.html

regards, Anthony


2009/4/29 Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com:
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Re: PESO: View from The Pavilion

2009-04-29 Thread Jack Davis

Love the soft monotone look. Works well with light blue sky.
Appreciate the Detroit tour as well.
Beautifully composed and rendered.

Jack


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 Subject: PESO: View from The Pavilion
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 6:51 AM
 While shooting virtual tours for real estate, I sometimes
 come across unusual buildings. I shot tours at a building in
 downtown Detroit the other day that surprised me. Built in
 1957, it struck me as having been well ahead of its time.
 The architectural style looked familiar, so I checked when I
 got home and discovered that it was designed by Mies van der
 Rohe and is on the National Register of Historic Places. The
 exterior of the 20 story apartment building is mostly
 windows, framed in metal. The lobby is all black marble.
 It's in excellent condition and 95% occupied. The
 building is situated at the eastern edge of downtown, and
 its framed by a nice little park. The attached pic is the
 view from a 15th floor apartment. You can see the GM
 building (formerly the Renaissance Center and quite possibly
 soon to be something else) at the far left. Ford Field, the
 domed stadium, is at the far right. The shot is a composite
 of three frames from the pano I shot in this apartment.
 They're 16mm verticals, f13 @ about 1/4 second, ISO 200.
 Click to make it larger:
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9074706
 
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April Pug

2009-04-29 Thread ann sanfedele

Worth waiting for... especially nicely arranged on the index page, too.

If  someone said I had to pick  a couple

I love  especially these two  painterly ones...

Brian's  _Turneresque_ Foam and Froth  


Gabor's  _Porteresque_  Waterpainting

(which  would have nicely done in the abstract month too)

Well done, Scott!  


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Re: K 7 D FFN

2009-04-29 Thread Bob Sullivan
So when are we going to be able to buy one of these cameras at retail???
Before our Grandfather Mountain gathering?!!
Sure would be nice.
Regards,  Bob S.

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 That one genuine as well:

 http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/9629/k72.jpg
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Re: PESO : Part one

2009-04-29 Thread ann sanfedele



Tim Øsleby wrote:


http://www.diskusjon.no/index.php?act=attachtype=postid=295895

Wrong bike, but that's what I found.
I wondering if it will be worth the effort to clone out the sticker.
What do you say?

 

By no means... the sign adds very nice humorous  content...  well, at 
least to someone who was injured riding a motorcycle :-)


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RE: OT - I'm Safe Now

2009-04-29 Thread Bob W
 
  AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: 
  Is it officially a pandemic yet? I'd agree to epidemic off-hand, for
  sure, but it seems a bit difficult to see the true picture 
 through the
  media noise. :-(
  
  Anyway, last I heard on the news is that mortality seems way much
  higher in Mexico than outside the country, which puzzles the
  scientists.
  
  But what's a good doomsday, Pentax related or not, if we 
 can't joke about it?
  
  Jostein
 
 Latest news here is that it's hitting certain ethnic and 
 cultural minorities badly.  They can't stand to be covered in rashers.
 

Truth in jest. One of the reasons why pork features so much in Spanish
cooking is that before the reconquista and the expulsion of the Muslims and
the Jews, eating pork was a way of emphasising your Christianity. Under the
Inquisition it was a sign of loyalty to the church.

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Re: K 7 D FFN

2009-04-29 Thread Doug Brewer

Bob Sullivan wrote:

So when are we going to be able to buy one of these cameras at retail???
Before our Grandfather Mountain gathering?!!
Sure would be nice.
Regards,  Bob S.


rumor says solid info to be out on May 20

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Re: K 7 D FFN

2009-04-29 Thread Thibouille
announcement around may 20th, actual availability a month later.

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 Bob Sullivan wrote:

 So when are we going to be able to buy one of these cameras at retail???
 Before our Grandfather Mountain gathering?!!
 Sure would be nice.
 Regards,  Bob S.

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Re: OT PESO: shop's open...

2009-04-29 Thread Subash
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 23:22:00 -0400
paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:

 Two good shots. The first is my favorite. Excellent composition and
 a feeling of mystery and solitude Good work.
 Paul
  http://picasaweb.google.co.in/pdml.live/Peso#5329014586482455282
  http://picasaweb.google.co.in/pdml.live/Peso#5329016827149731602

Paul, thanks for looking and the nice words. much appreciated.

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Re: OT - I'm Safe Now

2009-04-29 Thread David J Brooks
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

  AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote:
  Is it officially a pandemic yet? I'd agree to epidemic off-hand, for
  sure, but it seems a bit difficult to see the true picture
 through the
  media noise. :-(
 
  Anyway, last I heard on the news is that mortality seems way much
  higher in Mexico than outside the country, which puzzles the
  scientists.
 
  But what's a good doomsday, Pentax related or not, if we
 can't joke about it?
 
  Jostein

 Latest news here is that it's hitting certain ethnic and
 cultural minorities badly.  They can't stand to be covered in rashers.


 Truth in jest. One of the reasons why pork features so much in Spanish
 cooking is that before the reconquista and the expulsion of the Muslims and
 the Jews, eating pork was a way of emphasising your Christianity. Under the
 Inquisition it was a sign of loyalty to the church.

 Bob

No one expects the Spanish Inquisition.

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Re: PESO - Aston Martin on Queen West

2009-04-29 Thread David J Brooks
Just the right amount of blur on this one.

Dave

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 Another lame title, but one of my favourite cars:

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/04/aston-martin-on-queen-west.html

 I wish I had a bit more space in front of the car, but that's the edge
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Re: PESO: View from The Pavilion

2009-04-29 Thread David J Brooks
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 While shooting virtual tours for real estate, I sometimes come across
 unusual buildings. I shot tours at a building in downtown Detroit the other
 day that surprised me. Built in 1957, it struck me as having been well ahead
 of its time. The architectural style looked familiar, so I checked when I
 got home and discovered that it was designed by Mies van der Rohe and is on
 the National Register of Historic Places.
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9074706

Looks like one from Art Van Dela.:-)

Nice photo Paul. I like how the railing seems to hold up the building horizons.

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Re: PESO: View from The Pavilion

2009-04-29 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 While shooting virtual tours for real estate, I sometimes come across
 unusual buildings. I shot tours at a building in downtown Detroit the other
 day that surprised me. Built in 1957, it struck me as having been well ahead
 of its time. The architectural style looked familiar, so I checked when I
 got home and discovered that it was designed by Mies van der Rohe and is on
 the National Register of Historic Places. The exterior of the 20 story
 apartment building is mostly windows, framed in metal. The lobby is all
 black marble. It's in excellent condition and 95% occupied. The building is
 situated at the eastern edge of downtown, and its framed by a nice little
 park. The attached pic is the view from a 15th floor apartment. You can see
 the GM building (formerly the Renaissance Center and quite possibly soon to
 be something else) at the far left. Ford Field, the domed stadium, is at the
 far right. The shot is a composite of three frames from the pano I shot in
 this apartment. They're 16mm verticals, f13 @ about 1/4 second, ISO 200.
 Click to make it larger:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9074706

Love Mies van der Rohe!  He's my favourite of the modernists.

Lovely shot, Paul.  The light on the interior is wonderful.

cheers,
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Re: K 7 D FFN

2009-04-29 Thread Mark Roberts

Bob Sullivan wrote:

So when are we going to be able to buy one of these cameras at retail???
Before our Grandfather Mountain gathering?!!
Sure would be nice.


Official announcement is supposed to be on May 20 or 21 but the camera 
probably won't be in the shops until July.



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image circle of DA lenses: how much smaller than FF?

2009-04-29 Thread Luiz Felipe
I was looking for data on the available 180~200mm 2.8 lenses for K and 
EF mounts, and found some story about how the DA* 200 2.8 is related to 
the former 200mm full frame and so it possibly would cover said full frame.


That got me wondering if one of the tech-oriented actually knows the 
image circle dimensions for the DA lenses, and how much is missing. I 
know the difference should be proportional to the difference from APS-C 
to 24x36mm, but would like ko know the size and borderline falloff 
evolution on the DA lenses.


Just wondering, TIA. :-)

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Re: OT - I'm Safe Now

2009-04-29 Thread Luiz Felipe
Was it before, or after the time when potatoes were deemed as 
devil-related since they came from the bottom of the earth??


Just wondering... ];-))

LF

Bob W escreveu:
 AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: 

Is it officially a pandemic yet? I'd agree to epidemic off-hand, for
sure, but it seems a bit difficult to see the true picture 

through the

media noise. :-(

Anyway, last I heard on the news is that mortality seems way much
higher in Mexico than outside the country, which puzzles the
scientists.

But what's a good doomsday, Pentax related or not, if we 

can't joke about it?

Jostein
Latest news here is that it's hitting certain ethnic and 
cultural minorities badly.  They can't stand to be covered in rashers.




Truth in jest. One of the reasons why pork features so much in Spanish
cooking is that before the reconquista and the expulsion of the Muslims and
the Jews, eating pork was a way of emphasising your Christianity. Under the
Inquisition it was a sign of loyalty to the church.

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Re: PESO - Broken Arms

2009-04-29 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/24/2009 7:49:28 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
knarftheria...@gmail.com writes:
This struck me as  rather  strange:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/04/broken-arms.html

Whenever  I get photoshop and a working home computer going again I'll
be able to  darken the script a bit and generally render it better.

Comments always  welcome.

cheers,
frank

=
That's what happens  when you lug a big heavy Canon (with big heavy lens) 
around. Heh.

Nice  one, frank.

Marnie aka Doe  :-)

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Re: PESO - Badbury Clump

2009-04-29 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/28/2009 1:05:16 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
rwomer1...@yahoo.com writes:
Fourteen years ago, I  accidentally came upon this place at the height of 
bluebell season.  It is  a beech wood on the site of an Iron Age hill fort, 
about 25 miles southwest of  Oxford.  I thought it was magical, and have been 
looking forward to getting  back ever since.  This past weekend we spent an 
hour  there.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9069212size=lg

(K10D  and DA 16-45)

Rick

==
Oh, lovely. Simply superb  shot, Rick. I love the leaves on the trees being 
so green, nice color contrast  with the purple/blue flowers.

Marnie aka Doe  :-)

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Re: image circle of DA lenses: how much smaller than FF?

2009-04-29 Thread Mark Roberts

Luiz Felipe wrote:
I was looking for data on the available 180~200mm 2.8 lenses for K and 
EF mounts, and found some story about how the DA* 200 2.8 is related to 
the former 200mm full frame and so it possibly would cover said full frame.


That got me wondering if one of the tech-oriented actually knows the 
image circle dimensions for the DA lenses, and how much is missing. I 
know the difference should be proportional to the difference from APS-C 
to 24x36mm, but would like ko know the size and borderline falloff 
evolution on the DA lenses.


Just wondering, TIA. :-)


It varies. Some DA lenses cover full frame, some don't (it's the wide 
angle ones that don't, in general).
As far as anyone can tell, the DA designation indicates that the lens 
is optically  optimized for digital and that it doesn't have an aperture 
ring. It doesn't seem to specifically relate to the image circle.


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Re: OT PESO: shop's open...

2009-04-29 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/26/2009 8:13:03 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
pdml.l...@gmail.com writes:
hi,

one from the  beach today. shop's  open:
http://picasaweb.google.co.in/pdml.live/Peso#5329014586482455282

and  soon enough, there's a  customer:
http://picasaweb.google.co.in/pdml.live/Peso#5329016827149731602


yeah,  two OT PESOs actually. canon g2, iso 400...

regards,  subash

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Both, very nice, subash. Don't know that I prefer one  to the other. Nice 
lightening, lit cart against the dark.

Must stay hot  at night there. Well done.

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Re: PESO: View from The Pavilion

2009-04-29 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/29/2009 6:51:51 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
pnstenqu...@comcast.net writes:
While shooting virtual  tours for real estate, I sometimes come across  
unusual buildings. I  shot tours at a building in downtown Detroit the  
other day that  surprised me. Built in 1957, it struck me as having  
been well ahead of  its time. The architectural style looked familiar,  
so I checked when I  got home and discovered that it was designed by  
Mies van der Rohe and  is on the National Register of Historic Places.  
The exterior of the 20  story apartment building is mostly windows,  
framed in metal. The lobby  is all black marble. It's in excellent  
condition and 95% occupied. The  building is situated at the eastern  
edge of downtown, and its framed  by a nice little park. The attached  
pic is the view from a 15th floor  apartment. You can see the GM  
building (formerly the Renaissance  Center and quite possibly soon to  
be something else) at the far left.  Ford Field, the domed stadium, is  
at the far right. The shot is a  composite of three frames from the  
pano I shot in this apartment.  They're 16mm verticals, f13 @ about 1/4  
second, ISO 200. Click to make  it  larger:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9074706



Nice  shot, Paul. Has that clean, sharp look that some surreal paintings  
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Re: PESO: chicks

2009-04-29 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/26/2009 8:09:10 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
rf.sulli...@gmail.com writes:
Lots of bird photos this  weekend.  Lots to sort thru.  Here's a
sample.  Regards,   Bob  S.

http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/AlligatorFarm?authkey=Gv1sRgCMyHmumZ
rfaAgwE#5329201378236836130



Aw,  cute. Nice capture. 

I had an odd reaction to this photo, at first the  blurry background 
(mainly on the left), looked like a big blurry leaf (leaves)  to me. Took a few 
seconds for my eyes to get it to lay down and recede into  the background. 
Gotta say, may be me, but I suspect you Gausian Blurred the  background (even 
if it had some shallow DOF). Or it's one of those optical  illusion things, 
pop forward, go back. So I'd suggest also *darkening the  background so it 
doesn't keep popping forward.

Otherwise, very nice  shot.

Marnie aka Doe :-)  

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Re: PESO: Criticism

2009-04-29 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/28/2009 9:58:56 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
tim...@clancode.hu writes:
I think her beer was warm  :)

http://15kb.blogspot.com/2009/04/blog-post.html

Was made on the  Holland day on Trafalgar  Square.

Regards,
.timber

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Heh. Fun shot. (I suspect  more she's reacting to the woman she is talking 
to. But making a face at the  beer is a good surmise.)

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Re: image circle of DA lenses: how much smaller than FF?

2009-04-29 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 01:35:09PM -0300, Luiz Felipe wrote:
 I was looking for data on the available 180~200mm 2.8 lenses for K and  
 EF mounts, and found some story about how the DA* 200 2.8 is related to  
 the former 200mm full frame and so it possibly would cover said full 
 frame.

 That got me wondering if one of the tech-oriented actually knows the  
 image circle dimensions for the DA lenses, and how much is missing. I  
 know the difference should be proportional to the difference from APS-C  
 to 24x36mm, but would like ko know the size and borderline falloff  
 evolution on the DA lenses.

 Just wondering, TIA. :-)

 LF

Above some focal length (well below 200mm) it's likely that just about
any lens will have an image circle easily large enough to cover 36x24mm.
But, as Ned Bunnell point out in his blog entry on the forthcoming camera,
there's a difference between covering an image circle and covering it well.
The DA lenses are not designed for sensors of that size, so things such as
corner resolution, distortion, etc. may not be sufficiently high.
(There again, as he also mentions, some older lenses may also fall short
in that regard, even though they were designed for use on film cameras).


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Re: Canary Wharf

2009-04-29 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/26/2009 10:36:48 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
cagu...@earthlink.net writes:
This one's very nice,  Bob!  Good detail in the shadows.   Composition is 
also very  nice.  Looks like you guys had a great time.  Cheers,  Christine

http://www.web-options.com/Boozer/content/L142_large.html

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Yes,  I like that too. They could be waiting and watching for anything.
Marnie aka  Doe :-)

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Subject: RE:  Canary Wharf


 Thanks Ann. Here are some more shots from the  pubs:
 http://www.web-options.com/Boozer/

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Re: Galia and Boris PESO #14

2009-04-29 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/28/2009 5:11:40 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
bori...@gmail.com writes:
Hi!

From now on  whenever opportunity permits, I shall publish photos that 
Galia made along  with those of  mine.

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2009/04/peso-2009-014.html

Please  be brutal and honest.

Thanks.

Boris (and  Galia)

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I really like Alone.  Good eye.

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Re: PESO - Aston Martin on Queen West

2009-04-29 Thread Keith Whaley

frank theriault wrote:

Another lame title, but one of my favourite cars:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/04/aston-martin-on-queen-west.html

I wish I had a bit more space in front of the car, but that's the edge
of the frame.

Comments welcome.

cheers,
frank



Uhhh, she's smiling because he's driving with his left hand casually draped 
over the wheel. Only.


Perhaps...

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Re: image circle of DA lenses: how much smaller than FF?

2009-04-29 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: John Francis
Subject: Re: image circle of DA lenses: how much smaller than FF?




 Above some focal length (well below 200mm) it's likely that just about
 any lens will have an image circle easily large enough to cover 36x24mm.
 But, as Ned Bunnell point out in his blog entry on the forthcoming camera,
 there's a difference between covering an image circle and covering it 
 well.
 The DA lenses are not designed for sensors of that size, so things such as
 corner resolution, distortion, etc. may not be sufficiently high.
 (There again, as he also mentions, some older lenses may also fall short
 in that regard, even though they were designed for use on film cameras).

There has been a rather protracted and sometimes heated debate about this on 
ForumNeurotica over the past day or two.
The best arguement that the naysayers can come up with is that wide open 
corner performance isn't good enough on some lenses, so the entire full 
frame sensor idea must be wrong.
The worst argument that they've been able to make is the old Pentax is a 
small company that can't afford it, the market is too small, blah blah 
blah

The more sensible people are of the opinion that stopping down a bit will 
cure most problems, that some lenses don't perform well, but others do, 
proving only that some lenses are better than others, and that Nikon, Canon 
and Sony seem to be doing fairly well making 35mm full frame DSLR cameras, 
and that there seems to be a lot of people adapting full frame Pentax lenss 
to their digital EOS cameras and getting good results.
It looks to me like Ned is saying what he is being told to say by his 
political masters, and not what he might say as a photographer.
Perhaps the whole Leica D-Lux fiasco caused Pentax to rein in their wild 
horse a little, and got him start talking more like the president of a 
camera company.

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PESO 2009 - 059 - GDG

2009-04-29 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

http://homepage.mac.com/godders/059-foundzebra.jpg
Found Zebra - Sunnyvale 2009
Panasonic G1 + Olympus ZD 25mm f/2.8
ISO 100 @ f/5 @ 1/125 sec

as i walked back to my car
something caught my eye
in the shadows behind the car
in a little pool of sunlight
a zebra forlorn
and lost
he rides the dashboard now
happy

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Re: Canary Wharf

2009-04-29 Thread AlunFoto
2009/4/28 Bob W p...@web-options.com:
 Yes, it's the same place. In fact, Cotty did not know about the foot tunnel
 until this weekend, and know you've posted a photo of the entrance.

Did I post it before? Can't recall. :-)
I know I made a PUG entry (equinox photo, iirc) of the Millenium Dome
by placing the camera on a sill outside a window in the pub. That was
made on film, so before autumn-2003. It's a photogenic place down
there. With the hmmm... maritime museum? too, with the twin buildings.

 This is the Cutty Sark pub, which you may recognise:
 http://www.web-options.com/Greenwich/content/_C086771_large.html

Indeed. :-)

 When you took that picture you must have been standing in about the same
 place I was when I took this, in another direction:
 http://www.web-options.com/Greenwich/content/L1030025_large.html

Pretty much, I think. There were some 1 metre high metal poles,
probably to prevent cars from entering, and I rested the camera on one
of them. Pretty close to the scaffolding around the Cutty Sark ship.
Too bad it burned, btw.

 Here's another view of Canary Wharf:
 http://www.web-options.com/Greenwich/content/_C086761_large.html

It's so cool how those buildings generate cloud formation in their wake. :-)

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Re: OT - I'm Safe Now

2009-04-29 Thread AlunFoto
2009/4/29 mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com:
 Latest news here is that it's hitting certain ethnic and cultural minorities 
 badly.  They can't stand to be covered in rashers.

I thought it was one sneeze fits all...

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Re: Oxford PDML 17 May or 14 June?

2009-04-29 Thread AlunFoto
Don't bother. :-)

Jostein

2009/4/29 mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com:
 Will consult.  BTW, do you want the papoose back?

  AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote:
 Must be London between Wednesday and Friday. Could plan to go
 somewhere for the week-end.
 Jostein

 2009/4/28 mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com:
  London?

   AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote:
  No options for 27-30 May?
 
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Re: image circle of DA lenses: how much smaller than FF?

2009-04-29 Thread Luiz Felipe

Guess I will have to read that debate...

Bottom line - never mind a full frame dslr isn't available from Pentax 
and most likely will never be - wich current (DA included) Pentax lenses 
would cover almost entirely a FF sensor OR a 35mm film frame?? That's my 
interest - how poorly illuminated would be a 35mm film frame exposed 
with current Pentax lenses... in particular those ending in the 
135~200mm range, 2.8 aperture preferred.


That idea that most of the above XXmm DA lenses have larger enough 
image circles actually puts the there is no lens support to FF on the 
roadmap statement under fire. Granted there are other considerations, 
but all the same, the [image circle - light fallof] limit may be not so 
real, for good part of the lenses.


LF

William Robb escreveu:
- Original Message - 
From: John Francis

Subject: Re: image circle of DA lenses: how much smaller than FF?




Above some focal length (well below 200mm) it's likely that just about
any lens will have an image circle easily large enough to cover 36x24mm.
But, as Ned Bunnell point out in his blog entry on the forthcoming camera,
there's a difference between covering an image circle and covering it 
well.

The DA lenses are not designed for sensors of that size, so things such as
corner resolution, distortion, etc. may not be sufficiently high.
(There again, as he also mentions, some older lenses may also fall short
in that regard, even though they were designed for use on film cameras).


There has been a rather protracted and sometimes heated debate about this on 
ForumNeurotica over the past day or two.
The best arguement that the naysayers can come up with is that wide open 
corner performance isn't good enough on some lenses, so the entire full 
frame sensor idea must be wrong.
The worst argument that they've been able to make is the old Pentax is a 
small company that can't afford it, the market is too small, blah blah 
blah


The more sensible people are of the opinion that stopping down a bit will 
cure most problems, that some lenses don't perform well, but others do, 
proving only that some lenses are better than others, and that Nikon, Canon 
and Sony seem to be doing fairly well making 35mm full frame DSLR cameras, 
and that there seems to be a lot of people adapting full frame Pentax lenss 
to their digital EOS cameras and getting good results.
It looks to me like Ned is saying what he is being told to say by his 
political masters, and not what he might say as a photographer.
Perhaps the whole Leica D-Lux fiasco caused Pentax to rein in their wild 
horse a little, and got him start talking more like the president of a 
camera company.


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Re: image circle of DA lenses: how much smaller than FF?

2009-04-29 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Luiz Felipe
Subject: Re: image circle of DA lenses: how much smaller than FF?


 Guess I will have to read that debate...

 Bottom line - never mind a full frame dslr isn't available from Pentax and 
 most likely will never be - wich current (DA included) Pentax lenses would 
 cover almost entirely a FF sensor OR a 35mm film frame?? That's my 
 interest - how poorly illuminated would be a 35mm film frame exposed with 
 current Pentax lenses... in particular those ending in the 135~200mm 
 range, 2.8 aperture preferred.


Umm, are there any Pentax lenses that meet this criteria?

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Re: image circle of DA lenses: how much smaller than FF?

2009-04-29 Thread Mark Roberts

William Robb wrote:

There has been a rather protracted and sometimes heated debate about this on 
ForumNeurotica over the past day or two.
The best arguement that the naysayers can come up with is that wide open 
corner performance isn't good enough on some lenses, so the entire full 
frame sensor idea must be wrong.
The worst argument that they've been able to make is the old Pentax is a 
small company that can't afford it, the market is too small, blah blah 
blah


The more sensible people are of the opinion that stopping down a bit will 
cure most problems, that some lenses don't perform well, but others do, 
proving only that some lenses are better than others, and that Nikon, Canon 
and Sony seem to be doing fairly well making 35mm full frame DSLR cameras, 
and that there seems to be a lot of people adapting full frame Pentax lenss 
to their digital EOS cameras and getting good results.
It looks to me like Ned is saying what he is being told to say by his 
political masters, and not what he might say as a photographer.
Perhaps the whole Leica D-Lux fiasco caused Pentax to rein in their wild 
horse a little, and got him start talking more like the president of a 
camera company.


I strongly suspect that the light falloff in the corners that presents 
an issue with full-frame digital isn't so much caused by design 
differences necessitated by digital itself as it is a result of the 
ability to pixel peep afforded by digital.






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Re: image circle of DA lenses: how much smaller than FF?

2009-04-29 Thread Luiz Felipe
Possibly not... wich part of the criteria would be more of a problem: 
covering almost entirely a 35mm film frame; primes and zooms with long 
end into the 135~200mm, with apertures in the 2.8 range; or currently 
available??


LF

William Robb escreveu:
- Original Message - 
From: Luiz Felipe

Subject: Re: image circle of DA lenses: how much smaller than FF?



Guess I will have to read that debate...

Bottom line - never mind a full frame dslr isn't available from Pentax and 
most likely will never be - wich current (DA included) Pentax lenses would 
cover almost entirely a FF sensor OR a 35mm film frame?? That's my 
interest - how poorly illuminated would be a 35mm film frame exposed with 
current Pentax lenses... in particular those ending in the 135~200mm 
range, 2.8 aperture preferred.




Umm, are there any Pentax lenses that meet this criteria?

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Re: image circle of DA lenses: how much smaller than FF?

2009-04-29 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Mark Roberts
Subject: Re: image circle of DA lenses: how much smaller than FF?



 I strongly suspect that the light falloff in the corners that presents an 
 issue with full-frame digital isn't so much caused by design differences 
 necessitated by digital itself as it is a result of the ability to pixel 
 peep afforded by digital.

They do seem to do a lot of that over there, or they do until it would do 
some good, at which time they drop back into purely theoretical discussion.
It's an odd place.

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Re: image circle of DA lenses: how much smaller than FF?

2009-04-29 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Luiz Felipe
Subject: Re: image circle of DA lenses: how much smaller than FF?


 Possibly not... wich part of the criteria would be more of a problem: 
 covering almost entirely a 35mm film frame; primes and zooms with long end 
 into the 135~200mm, with apertures in the 2.8 range; or currently 
 available??


I think currently available would be the problem

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Re: PESO 2009 - 055 - GDG

2009-04-29 Thread ann sanfedele



Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:



On Apr 21, 2009, at 11:03 AM, frank theriault wrote:


http://homepage.mac.com/godders/055-reflectionpassing.jpg



Hee hee!  In a way your outline looks like the Playboy Bunny.  Hmmm...



Now there's an unexpected comment! ;-)
Thanks frank!


It would be, were it not from the bunny himself :-)

interesting shot , G -  


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Re: PESO 2009 - 059 - GDG

2009-04-29 Thread ann sanfedele
that's a very dark shot  -  in multiple ways...  
(I'd say it was my mood  but I'm really in a good place right now...)


glad you rescued him.

ann


Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:


http://homepage.mac.com/godders/059-foundzebra.jpg
Found Zebra - Sunnyvale 2009
Panasonic G1 + Olympus ZD 25mm f/2.8
ISO 100 @ f/5 @ 1/125 sec

as i walked back to my car
something caught my eye
in the shadows behind the car
in a little pool of sunlight
a zebra forlorn
and lost
he rides the dashboard now
happy

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Re: April PUG?

2009-04-29 Thread Ken Waller

A nice, if small gallery.

All are well executed, but 'Water Painting' by Gabor Ritz really caught my 
eye - well done.


And thank you Scott for your efforts.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - 
From: Scott Loveless sdlovel...@gmail.com

Subject: Re: April PUG?



Looks like some nincompoop forgot to upload it again.  It's online
now.  http://pug.komkon.org

We could use a few more photos for May.


On 4/28/09, Toralf Lund tor...@toralf.net wrote:

Question is in the subject, really. I mean, will there be one?

 Just had to ask...

 - Toralf



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Re: OT - I'm Safe Now

2009-04-29 Thread Ken Waller


Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - 
From: mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com

To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: OT - I'm Safe Now




 AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote:

Is it officially a pandemic yet? I'd agree to epidemic off-hand, for
sure, but it seems a bit difficult to see the true picture through the
media noise. :-(

Anyway, last I heard on the news is that mortality seems way much
higher in Mexico than outside the country, which puzzles the
scientists.

But what's a good doomsday, Pentax related or not, if we can't joke about 
it?


Jostein


Latest news here is that it's hitting certain ethnic and cultural 
minorities badly.  They can't stand to be covered in rashers.


Sounds like a racist flu..





2009/4/28 frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com:
 On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 4:25 PM, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote:
 Er.. I mean, Mark.
 Sorry.
 I'll go and blow my nose now.
 :-)

 Are you mocking the pig flu?

 Don't ever mock a pandemic!

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Re: PESO - Aston Martin on Queen West

2009-04-29 Thread Ken Waller

Nice capture of a great car.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - 
From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com

Subject: PESO - Aston Martin on Queen West



Another lame title, but one of my favourite cars:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/04/aston-martin-on-queen-west.html

I wish I had a bit more space in front of the car, but that's the edge
of the frame.

Comments welcome.

cheers,
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Re: PESO - Aston Martin on Queen West

2009-04-29 Thread Jack Davis

My wife ought to be happy I don't intend to buy one of these.
What a beautiful machine. sniff

Jack


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 Subject: Re: PESO - Aston Martin on Queen West
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 11:47 AM
 Nice capture of a great car.
 
 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: frank theriault
 knarftheria...@gmail.com
 Subject: PESO - Aston Martin on Queen West
 
 
  Another lame title, but one of my favourite cars:
 
 
 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/04/aston-martin-on-queen-west.html
 
  I wish I had a bit more space in front of the car, but
 that's the edge
  of the frame.
 
  Comments welcome.
 
  cheers,
  frank
 
 
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Re: image circle of DA lenses: how much smaller than FF?

2009-04-29 Thread Thibouille
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 7:24 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:


 Perhaps the whole Leica D-Lux fiasco caused Pentax to rein in their wild
 horse a little, and got him start talking more like the president of a
 camera company.

 William Robb

You mean those people who reacted like kids plaing in the sand?

Maybe...

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Re: image circle of DA lenses: how much smaller than FF?

2009-04-29 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Thibouille
Subject: Re: image circle of DA lenses: how much smaller than FF?




 You mean those people who reacted like kids plaing in the sand?


If you are talking about the people who thought he should be pimping his own 
ride rather than his competition's ride, then call them what you want.
It doesn't really affect the optics of the very poor judgement he showed to 
insult the people who pointed out that he was biting the hand that feeds 
him.

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Re: PESO - Aston Martin on Queen West

2009-04-29 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Jack Davis
Subject: Re: PESO - Aston Martin on Queen West



 My wife ought to be happy I don't intend to buy one of these.
 What a beautiful machine. sniff


And how much money can you save by buying a 60-250 instead?
Food for thought

William Robb 



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Re: PESO 2009 - 059 - GDG

2009-04-29 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi ramar...@mac.com wrote:
 http://homepage.mac.com/godders/059-foundzebra.jpg
 Found Zebra - Sunnyvale 2009
 Panasonic G1 + Olympus ZD 25mm f/2.8
 ISO 100 @ f/5 @ 1/125 sec

 as i walked back to my car
 something caught my eye
 in the shadows behind the car
 in a little pool of sunlight
 a zebra forlorn
 and lost
 he rides the dashboard now
 happy

Strangely disquieting.

I like it!

cheers,
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Re: PESO Pano before the renovation

2009-04-29 Thread Toine
Yes very old: http://tinyurl.com/dktnmg

In this city building like this are Historic Buildings :)

The 10-17 is great for pano's. 8 shots result in a full 360 pano.

Toine

2009/4/29 Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com:

 That's old?

 Anyway, the exposures came out very well.  Interesting seeing a fisheye pano, 
 too--I may have to try that some day.

 Rick

 http://photo.net/photos/RickW


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 Our university is building a new library. To be more precise
 an old
 existing building will be renovated. I plan to shoot a
 series of
 pano's during the 2 years of the rebuilding.
 Today I started shooting the empty (old) building:

 http://www.repiuk.nl/images/pano2vr/pano_whal_28apr2009_1.html

 http://www.repiuk.nl/images/pano2vr/pano_whal_28apr2009r_6.html

 K20D DA10-17 +2,0,-2 bracketing. Warning the (Flash) files
 are large (4-5Mb).

 No lights inside and heavy overcast weather outside. What
 else to do
 but shoot HDR. Maybe a little overdone what do you think?

 Toine

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RE: K 7 D FFN

2009-04-29 Thread John Celio
 So when are we going to be able to buy one of these cameras at retail???
 Before our Grandfather Mountain gathering?!!
 Sure would be nice.
 Regards, Bob S.
 
 rumor says solid info to be out on May 20

Plus one day for each extraneous punctuation mark!!!

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Re: PESO: View from The Pavilion

2009-04-29 Thread Bob Sullivan
Paul,
Very nice interior by one of my favorite architects.
Taught at IIT for many years!
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 11:14 AM, frank theriault
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 On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net 
 wrote:
 While shooting virtual tours for real estate, I sometimes come across
 unusual buildings. I shot tours at a building in downtown Detroit the other
 day that surprised me. Built in 1957, it struck me as having been well ahead
 of its time. The architectural style looked familiar, so I checked when I
 got home and discovered that it was designed by Mies van der Rohe and is on
 the National Register of Historic Places. The exterior of the 20 story
 apartment building is mostly windows, framed in metal. The lobby is all
 black marble. It's in excellent condition and 95% occupied. The building is
 situated at the eastern edge of downtown, and its framed by a nice little
 park. The attached pic is the view from a 15th floor apartment. You can see
 the GM building (formerly the Renaissance Center and quite possibly soon to
 be something else) at the far left. Ford Field, the domed stadium, is at the
 far right. The shot is a composite of three frames from the pano I shot in
 this apartment. They're 16mm verticals, f13 @ about 1/4 second, ISO 200.
 Click to make it larger:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9074706

 Love Mies van der Rohe!  He's my favourite of the modernists.

 Lovely shot, Paul.  The light on the interior is wonderful.

 cheers,
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Re: April PUG?

2009-04-29 Thread Toralf Lund

Scott Loveless wrote:
Looks like some nincompoop forgot to upload it again. 
He, he. I sort of suspected that it was plain forgetfulness... Maybe we 
should start casually mentioning the PUG a bit more often as a reminder 
to you. Don't want to nag about it, of course, since I'm happy someone 
else has volunteered to preparing the gallery, if you know what I mean...


- T

 It's online
now.  http://pug.komkon.org

We could use a few more photos for May.


On 4/28/09, Toralf Lund tor...@toralf.net wrote:
  

Question is in the subject, really. I mean, will there be one?

 Just had to ask...

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Re: PESO: View from The Pavilion

2009-04-29 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
 Paul,
 Very nice interior by one of my favorite architects.
 Taught at IIT for many years!

Didn't he design the campus?

cheers,
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Re: PESO: View from The Pavilion

2009-04-29 Thread Bob Sullivan
yes

On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 3:03 PM, frank theriault
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
 Paul,
 Very nice interior by one of my favorite architects.
 Taught at IIT for many years!

 Didn't he design the campus?

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Re: My Son's Photo's

2009-04-29 Thread Toine
I spotted some great shots in that gallery. The fill in flash works nicely.


2009/4/27 Walter Hamler hamlerwal...@gmail.com:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/31741...@n02/sets/72157613732310456/show/

 My son, 26 yrs old, married last year, has taken up photography. He
 had a very bad bike spill last year and has retired from the biking
 routine. But he stays in touch with his friends by shooting pics of
 them doing the risky stuff!

 He started out with a Canon but has switched to the K10D. I loaned him
 my grip and the FE zoom. If you look at the link above I think you
 will find some that show a lot of promise.  I'm kinda proud!

 Walt

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Re: K 7 D FFN

2009-04-29 Thread Joseph McAllister

I feel so small.

I was fooled and am now debunked...


On Apr 29, 2009, at 07:22 , Anthony Farr wrote:


That image was debunked a couple of days back.  It was 'shopped from
this image of the aborted MZ-1:

http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-film-slr-discussion/22338-pentax-mz-1-a.html

regards, Anthony


2009/4/29 Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com:

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This thing that you see,
Why in the world,
Would it excite me?
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Joseph McAllister
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RE: image circle of DA lenses: how much smaller than FF?

2009-04-29 Thread JC OConnell
If some dont cover full frame than its pretty obvious
to me that DA lens series is not intended nor guanateed
for full frame usage, they are for APS usage. Just like
some K series full frame lenses could work on larger formats
than but were not sold nor intended for use on larger formats
than 35mm. I would think that the DA lens series is NOT for full
frame usage according to pentax.

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Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 12:56 PM
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Subject: Re: image circle of DA lenses: how much smaller than FF?


Luiz Felipe wrote:
 I was looking for data on the available 180~200mm 2.8 lenses for K and
 EF mounts, and found some story about how the DA* 200 2.8 is related
to 
 the former 200mm full frame and so it possibly would cover said full
frame.
 
 That got me wondering if one of the tech-oriented actually knows the
 image circle dimensions for the DA lenses, and how much is missing. I 
 know the difference should be proportional to the difference from
APS-C 
 to 24x36mm, but would like ko know the size and borderline falloff 
 evolution on the DA lenses.
 
 Just wondering, TIA. :-)

It varies. Some DA lenses cover full frame, some don't (it's the wide 
angle ones that don't, in general).
As far as anyone can tell, the DA designation indicates that the lens 
is optically  optimized for digital and that it doesn't have an aperture

ring. It doesn't seem to specifically relate to the image circle.

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RE: image circle of DA lenses: how much smaller than FF?

2009-04-29 Thread JC OConnell
The other thing to note is well designed lenses for a specific
format (like APS format and DA lenses)many times could optically
work but because they are designed for smaller formats may have
good baffling and front rings that will vignette if used on a 
larger format like FF.

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Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 1:09 PM
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Subject: Re: image circle of DA lenses: how much smaller than FF?


On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 01:35:09PM -0300, Luiz Felipe wrote:
 I was looking for data on the available 180~200mm 2.8 lenses for K and
 EF mounts, and found some story about how the DA* 200 2.8 is related
to  
 the former 200mm full frame and so it possibly would cover said full 
 frame.

 That got me wondering if one of the tech-oriented actually knows the
 image circle dimensions for the DA lenses, and how much is missing. I

 know the difference should be proportional to the difference from
APS-C  
 to 24x36mm, but would like ko know the size and borderline falloff  
 evolution on the DA lenses.

 Just wondering, TIA. :-)

 LF

Above some focal length (well below 200mm) it's likely that just about
any lens will have an image circle easily large enough to cover 36x24mm.
But, as Ned Bunnell point out in his blog entry on the forthcoming
camera, there's a difference between covering an image circle and
covering it well. The DA lenses are not designed for sensors of that
size, so things such as corner resolution, distortion, etc. may not be
sufficiently high. (There again, as he also mentions, some older lenses
may also fall short in that regard, even though they were designed for
use on film cameras).


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Re: PESO: View from The Pavilion

2009-04-29 Thread Paul Stenquist
IIT was my first exposure to van der Rohe. I used to pass it on the  
way to Comiskey Park.

Paul
On Apr 29, 2009, at 4:09 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:


yes

On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 3:03 PM, frank theriault
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Bob Sullivan  
rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:

Paul,
Very nice interior by one of my favorite architects.
Taught at IIT for many years!


Didn't he design the campus?

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RE: image circle of DA lenses: how much smaller than FF?

2009-04-29 Thread JC OConnell
I will give an example how optical design and superior flare reduction
in
the mechanical design can conflict. The SMCK 105/2.8 AND SMCK120/2.8 are
same optical design with the SMCK120 just scaled up. What this means is
optically the SMCK120 would have a larger image circle than the
SMCK105/2.8
BUT since both lenses have built in rectangular baffles in the back
designed
only for the 24mmx36mm full frame film format, you cant use either on
larger
than 24x36mm formats and the 120SMCK usable image circle is NOT any
larger
than the 105mm because of the baffle limitations which were intentional
and
improve perfomance when used on the 24x36mm format as designed.

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On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 01:35:09PM -0300, Luiz Felipe wrote:
 I was looking for data on the available 180~200mm 2.8 lenses for K and
 EF mounts, and found some story about how the DA* 200 2.8 is related
to  
 the former 200mm full frame and so it possibly would cover said full 
 frame.

 That got me wondering if one of the tech-oriented actually knows the
 image circle dimensions for the DA lenses, and how much is missing. I

 know the difference should be proportional to the difference from
APS-C  
 to 24x36mm, but would like ko know the size and borderline falloff  
 evolution on the DA lenses.

 Just wondering, TIA. :-)

 LF

Above some focal length (well below 200mm) it's likely that just about
any lens will have an image circle easily large enough to cover 36x24mm.
But, as Ned Bunnell point out in his blog entry on the forthcoming
camera, there's a difference between covering an image circle and
covering it well. The DA lenses are not designed for sensors of that
size, so things such as corner resolution, distortion, etc. may not be
sufficiently high. (There again, as he also mentions, some older lenses
may also fall short in that regard, even though they were designed for
use on film cameras).


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Re: K 7 D FFN

2009-04-29 Thread Miserere
Don't worry JoMac, you'll feel better once the K-7 is in your hands.

You do have a spare $1,500, right?

:-)


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2009/4/29 Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com:
 I feel so small.

 I was fooled and am now debunked...



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PESO - Horses

2009-04-29 Thread Rick Womer

We came upon these horses during a country walk near Hook Norton, Oxfordshire 
last weekend.  Lovely countryside, and The Sun Inn in the town does a marvelous 
pint of Hooky Bitter.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9077174

(K10D and DA 50-200)

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Re: Toughts... Pentax and Professional Photography

2009-04-29 Thread Miserere
2009/4/27 William Robb war...@gmail.com:


 That would be a very lucky person, like the very rare person who has managed
 to build enough of a cult of personality that they can pretty much do
 whatever they like, and people will buy from them becuase of who they are,
 not what they are doing.

 William Robb

[cough]Annie Leibovitz[cough]


Disclaimer: I liked Annie's work back when I was a young lad in the
late 80's and had NO idea what photography was, just that one day I
would like to be a photographer (by which I just mean make pictures,
not necessarily be a pro). At some point, Annie started living off her
fame and stopped doing stuff only SHE could do. When I see her work on
Vanity Fair right now, or the myriad ad campaigns she's shot for, I
see nothing that some other photographer couldn't have accomplished. I
feel like she was paid just so the client could say Annie shot it for
us. Plus, there is so much Photoshop manipulation (not that there's
anything wrong with that in an ad campaign) that whatever residual of
Annie's magic may have remained in the frames was smudge tool'd out.
But hey, if somebody wants to pay me $1 million to hang around
superstars and press the shutter release when the Art director tells
me to, I'll do it. Of course, Annie could have principles and say
'no'. She could also live on the street and work weekends at Target.
I think she did what she had to do, which is what all of us would have
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Re: K 7 D FFN

2009-04-29 Thread Joseph McAllister

On Apr 29, 2009, at 13:37 , Miserere wrote:


Don't worry JoMac, you'll feel better once the K-7 is in your hands.

You do have a spare $1,500, right?

:-)


If I did, I'd go to GFM first, then worry about a new camera body.

My hoarding mindset has made it difficult to sell my older camera  
equipment.


I really have no need for any of my film cameras. I have to let all my  
frozen film go.


First $4500 can have it all. Cameras, Film, cases, film holders.  
backs, lighting, etc.


Off List.

I'll be waiting.



2009/4/29 Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com:

I feel so small.

I was fooled and am now debunked...





Joseph McAllister
pentax...@mac.com

http://gallery.me.com/jomac
http://web.me.com/jomac/show.me/Blog/Blog.html






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PESO - Tangled Tractor

2009-04-29 Thread Rick Womer

Another from our country walk near Hook Norton.  It doesn't look as though it 
will be going anywhere soon.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9077175

(K10D and DA 16-45)

Rick


  

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Re: PESO - Aston Martin on Queen West

2009-04-29 Thread Rick Womer

Nice car, nice exposure, and nice panning!

Rick

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--- On Wed, 4/29/09, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

 Another lame title, but one of my favourite cars:
 
 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/04/aston-martin-on-queen-west.html
 
 I wish I had a bit more space in front of the car, but
 that's the edge
 of the frame.
 
 Comments welcome.
 
 cheers,
 frank
 
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Re: PESO - Aston Martin on Queen West

2009-04-29 Thread Jack Davis

I know. Many years ago, I hankered for a new set of golf clubs and could sense 
some resistance from the treasurer. About the same time I saw a boat that was 
just what I had been thinking about. I pointed it out to my wife and mentioned 
the price (something like $2,000 USD). Back then the pro-line matched 
swing-weight clubs were only around $175.
Short time later I told my wife that I thought I'd pass on the boat and get the 
clubs. It was met with a slight smile and a look of relief. I wore those clubs 
out.
Ya see, Bill I'm w a y ahead of ya'. ;)

Jack


--- On Wed, 4/29/09, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: William Robb war...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: PESO - Aston Martin on Queen West
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 12:29 PM
 - Original Message - 
 From: Jack Davis
 Subject: Re: PESO - Aston Martin on Queen West
 
 
 
  My wife ought to be happy I don't intend to buy
 one of these.
  What a beautiful machine. sniff
 
 
 And how much money can you save by buying a 60-250 instead?
 Food for thought
 
 William Robb 
 
 
 
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Re: PESO 2009 - 058 - GDG

2009-04-29 Thread Rick Womer

I really liked it when I took a quick look this morning, Godders.  I went back 
this evening for a more careful look, and it's gone.

Rick

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--- On Sat, 4/25/09, Godfrey DiGiorgi ramar...@mac.com wrote:

 Very early two or three days ago, this bit of light through
 the blinds struck my eye somehow.
 
 http://homepage.mac.com/godders/058-058-dawnthroughblinds.jpg
 Dawn Light Through Blinds - Sunnyvale 2009
 Panasonic G1 + Olympus G.Zuiko 40mm f/1.4
 ISO 100 @ f/1.4 @ 1/1250 sec
 
 Comments always appreciated.
 
 enjoy,
 Godfrey
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  www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/sets
  twitter.com/godfreydigiorgi
 
 
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Re: Interesting DA 60-250mm test shots

2009-04-29 Thread Margus Männik

Well, today I can laugh  :) Loud:)))
Decided to defy all those viruses and bacilluses and went out to shoot.
DA*60-250 is SUPER. Yes, naturally it's quite heavy and large for my 
weak body (and I hate its price tag), but it paints pictures like some 
long-focus-rembrandt. Sharp focus right from wide open, nice bokeh.
And by the way - yes, it is 100% usable with AF film body. Even 101% as 
my Z-1p focuses automatically with 2x Kenko TC. Slowly, but firmly. 
Damned K20D don't even try with TC attached :(


Random tourist (Tallinn Old City is full of 'em) shot at f/5.6. I was 
going to shoot a church tower in background and she simply walked into 
the frame...

http://nagi.ee/photos/photo_sizes.php?id=10408771size=oalbum_id=148643
(full size, untouched jpeg from camera)

So, boys and girls, we're doomed. There's nothing to whine about Pentax 
(long zoom) lenses quality any more - all those hundreds and thousands 
of crappy pictures will be our own fault.


BR, Margus



Jack Davis wrote:
LoL..

J

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Re: Toughts... Pentax and Professional Photography

2009-04-29 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Miserere
Subject: Re: Toughts... Pentax and Professional Photography



 Disclaimer: I liked Annie's work back when I was a young lad in the
 late 80's and had NO idea what photography was, just that one day I
 would like to be a photographer (by which I just mean make pictures,
 not necessarily be a pro). At some point, Annie started living off her
 fame and stopped doing stuff only SHE could do. When I see her work on
 Vanity Fair right now, or the myriad ad campaigns she's shot for, I
 see nothing that some other photographer couldn't have accomplished. I
 feel like she was paid just so the client could say Annie shot it for
 us. Plus, there is so much Photoshop manipulation (not that there's
 anything wrong with that in an ad campaign) that whatever residual of
 Annie's magic may have remained in the frames was smudge tool'd out.
 But hey, if somebody wants to pay me $1 million to hang around
 superstars and press the shutter release when the Art director tells
 me to, I'll do it. Of course, Annie could have principles and say
 'no'. She could also live on the street and work weekends at Target.
 I think she did what she had to do, which is what all of us would have
 done in her place.

It looks like she's had to sell the copyrights to just about her entire body 
of work to pay of debts, she may end up at Target yet.
Do they have portrait studios?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financetopics/financialcrisis/4805404/Annie-Leibovitz-pawns-copyright-to-lifes-work-to-pay-debts.html

William Robb 



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Re: PESO: View from The Pavilion

2009-04-29 Thread Rick Womer

Paul, it's a nice and beautifully rendered pic, but a bit creepy--everything is 
so empty, and so clean, that it reminds me of the computer-generated views that 
architects produce.

Rick

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--- On Wed, 4/29/09, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:

 While shooting virtual tours for real estate, I sometimes
 come across unusual buildings. I shot tours at a building in
 downtown Detroit the other day that surprised me. Built in
 1957, it struck me as having been well ahead of its time.
 The architectural style looked familiar, so I checked when I
 got home and discovered that it was designed by Mies van der
 Rohe and is on the National Register of Historic Places. The
 exterior of the 20 story apartment building is mostly
 windows, framed in metal. The lobby is all black marble.
 It's in excellent condition and 95% occupied. The
 building is situated at the eastern edge of downtown, and
 its framed by a nice little park. The attached pic is the
 view from a 15th floor apartment. You can see the GM
 building (formerly the Renaissance Center and quite possibly
 soon to be something else) at the far left. Ford Field, the
 domed stadium, is at the far right. The shot is a composite
 of three frames from the pano I shot in this apartment.
 They're 16mm verticals, f13 @ about 1/4 second, ISO 200.
 Click to make it larger:
 
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Re: PESO - Horses

2009-04-29 Thread Jack Davis

I appreciate the setting and like the idea, but asking for an awful lot of DoF. 
Absolutely worth trying.

Jack


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 Subject: PESO - Horses
 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 1:51 PM
 We came upon these horses during a country walk near Hook
 Norton, Oxfordshire last weekend.  Lovely countryside, and
 The Sun Inn in the town does a marvelous pint of Hooky
 Bitter.
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9077174
 
 (K10D and DA 50-200)
 
 Rick
 
 
 
   
 
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