Re: My Son's Web Album

[Boris Liberman]

Excellent stuff. Two points.

1. How old is he?
2. I think that very often he consistently tilts his shots to the left
while this is unnecessary. I think, you could point this out to him in
a way that will not sound as discouragement.

Some brilliant pics in this set.

Boris

On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 10:55 PM, Walter Hamler wrote:
> http://www.nathanhamlerphotography.com/
>
> Every dad wants his kids to exceed their own talents and I think my
> dream has come true. He has really developed a good eye I think, and
> his technical skills are coming along quite rapidly as well.
>
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Re: PESO - Lingonberry Flower

[Boris Liberman]

Well done, I'd hazard a guess you used a tripod on this one...

;-)

On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 8:33 PM, AlunFoto wrote:
> Sorry.. fingertrouble...
>
> C&C appreciated.
>
>  http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2009/06/lingonberry-flower.html
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Re: PESO 2009 - 092 - GDG

[Ken Waller]

Nice composition but I don't care for the blobs on the sidewalk - they 
distract.


Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - 
From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" 

Subject: PESO 2009 - 092 - GDG



Another one up for lookin' at:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3596/3605398745_6cd79d3262_o.jpg
092 - Three - Sunnyvale 2009
Panasonic G1 + Olympus G.Zuiko 40mm f/1.4
ISO 100 @ f2 @ 1/160 second
  flickr page: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/3605398745/

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Re: another completely useless off topic question - Roller Bat/RollerBall

[Paul Sorenson]

I grew up in a small town north of Madison, WI and 500 was the game to 
play if we couldn't get enough players for a game of "real" ball.  We 
played with a softball or a baseball, which ever one of us could come up 
with.  Most of us didn't have the money for a glove, so we played bare 
handed for the most part.


Don't know if it's the same as your "Chicago Finger", but in grade 
school I jammed a finger playing softball so they sent me to the local 
doc.  He was one of those small-town, no BS docs and he asked to take a 
look at my finger.  He said "H" when I showed him, then quickly got 
a grip on my finger on each side of the jammed knuckle and pulled - no 
more jammed finger.  He was a little on the looney side.  One night he 
sat at the bar in one of the local restaurants with a pile of paper 
plates and a bottle of liquid shoe polish.  He'd draw a face on a paper 
plate with the shoe polish dauber, then sail the plate like a Frisbee 
out into the crowd.  His wife finally had him committed and after he was 
released about 6 months later he liked to brag that he was the only guy 
in town who had a certificate that said he was *NOT* crazy.


Ahhh, the good times of growing up in a small town...

-p

Christine Aguila wrote:
John:  I don't know the name of the game you describe, but in Chicago, 
we played "for hours and hours" a game called 500.  We played with a 16 
inch softball--the famous--or more accurately--the infamous 16 inch 
Clincher--16 inches of hard rock in the shape of a ball.  The Clincher 
has caused many a "jammed finger," and I have one myself.  If I think of 
it tomorrow, I'll take a picture of it and post.  The University of 
Chicago Hospital has perfected a surgical procedure for what is, in 
fact, called "The Chicago Finger," and I'm proud to say I have a 
"Chicago Finger, but it doesn't cause me any pain (yet), so I'll 
probably not pursue getting the finger straightened out.


Chicago has a strong tradition/history of 16 inch softball.  The men's 
leagues, and more specifically the union leagues, are really impressive 
to watch.  Even the advertising industry had coed 16 inch softball 
leagues, though I don't know if they still do--I worked in advertising 
in the late 80s/early 90s, and I played on the team


Anyway, the game went like this:  the batter had to self-pitch then hit 
the ball to kids in the field.  Certain types of catches were worth a 
certain number of points:  something like:  a 2 bounce grounder=25 
points; 1 bounce grounder=50 points; fly ball=75 points.  The first 
fielder to reach 500 points got to bat.


We played 500 when there wasn't enough kids for a softball game, which 
was often; hence, "hours and hours" of 500.


Cheers, Christine








- Original Message - From: "John Sessoms" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 1:47 PM
Subject: OT: another completely useless off topic question - Roller 
Bat/RollerBall



Anyone else know this game from childhood? I remembered it while 
thinking of something else the "Consumer Reports cool cameras" thread 
sparked off.


Required equipment:
Baseball or softball
Baseball or softball bat
backyard or vacant lot
a bunch of kids

Rulz:
One batter, pitcher & catcher - everyone else is out-fielders. Anyone 
can join or leave the game at any time.


One base, home plate (which doesn't actually have to be a real base, 
we often used a cinder block)


3 strikes yer' out, where a strike = swing and miss; if you don't 
swing, it's a "ball". 4 balls = one strike.


"NO! You can't throw it overhand. You have to pitch it underhand so we 
can hit it! ... Because I said so. It's my bat and my ball."


Hit balls are fielded and the batter lays the bat down across the 
"plate". Fielder throws or rolls the ball toward the bat, attempting 
to hit the bat with the ball.


If the ball hits the bat, the batter becomes the new catcher, the 
catcher becomes the new pitcher and the fielder becomes the new batter.


Balls caught in the air or on first bounce (first hop) count the same 
as having hit the bat.


If the thrown ball misses the bat, the batter continues for another 3 
strikes.


If the batter strikes out, you argue about whose turn it is to bat 
next. Optionally, you can argue about whether the thrown ball actually 
hit the bat or hopped over it.


The game is over when whoever owns the ball & bat has to go home for 
supper ... or something else interesting happens.


We played this in our backyard for hours and hours during the summer 
when I was in grade school, because my mom was the only one in the 
neighborhood who didn't mind having a bunch of noisy kids around the 
house.


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Re: OT: help identifying this car

[P. J. Alling]

Bob W wrote:

You and Subash could have started a Pentax/Enfield owner's club!
  

My Enfield.

http://vcrai.com/Lee-Enfield_Rifle.jpg




that's what we used to shoot at school. I was a teenage marksman!
  

Hum, did school shoot back?

Bob


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PESO 2009 - 092 - GDG

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Another one up for lookin' at:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3596/3605398745_6cd79d3262_o.jpg
092 - Three - Sunnyvale 2009
Panasonic G1 + Olympus G.Zuiko 40mm f/1.4
ISO 100 @ f2 @ 1/160 second
  flickr page: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/3605398745/

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Re: another completely useless off topic question - Roller Bat/RollerBall

[paul stenquist]

When I was a kid we played 500 in the alley behind our house. We broke  
a lot of garage windows. I played 16-inch softball in my late teen  
years, in both a church league and the Grant Park league. In those  
days, we played without mitts. They've since sissified the game and  
now wear modified baseball gloves. Pansies.

Paul
On Jun 7, 2009, at 10:11 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:

John:  I don't know the name of the game you describe, but in  
Chicago, we played "for hours and hours" a game called 500.  We  
played with a 16 inch softball--the famous--or more accurately--the  
infamous 16 inch Clincher--16 inches of hard rock in the shape of a  
ball.  The Clincher has caused many a "jammed finger," and I have  
one myself.  If I think of it tomorrow, I'll take a picture of it  
and post.  The University of Chicago Hospital has perfected a  
surgical procedure for what is, in fact, called "The Chicago  
Finger," and I'm proud to say I have a "Chicago Finger, but it  
doesn't cause me any pain (yet), so I'll probably not pursue getting  
the finger straightened out.


Chicago has a strong tradition/history of 16 inch softball.  The  
men's leagues, and more specifically the union leagues, are really  
impressive to watch.  Even the advertising industry had coed 16 inch  
softball leagues, though I don't know if they still do--I worked in  
advertising in the late 80s/early 90s, and I played on the team


Anyway, the game went like this:  the batter had to self-pitch then  
hit the ball to kids in the field.  Certain types of catches were  
worth a certain number of points:  something like:  a 2 bounce  
grounder=25 points; 1 bounce grounder=50 points; fly ball=75  
points.  The first fielder to reach 500 points got to bat.


We played 500 when there wasn't enough kids for a softball game,  
which was often; hence, "hours and hours" of 500.


Cheers, Christine








- Original Message - From: "John Sessoms" >

To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 1:47 PM
Subject: OT: another completely useless off topic question - Roller  
Bat/RollerBall



Anyone else know this game from childhood? I remembered it while  
thinking of something else the "Consumer Reports cool cameras"  
thread sparked off.


Required equipment:
Baseball or softball
Baseball or softball bat
backyard or vacant lot
a bunch of kids

Rulz:
One batter, pitcher & catcher - everyone else is out-fielders.  
Anyone can join or leave the game at any time.


One base, home plate (which doesn't actually have to be a real  
base, we often used a cinder block)


3 strikes yer' out, where a strike = swing and miss; if you don't  
swing, it's a "ball". 4 balls = one strike.


"NO! You can't throw it overhand. You have to pitch it underhand so  
we can hit it! ... Because I said so. It's my bat and my ball."


Hit balls are fielded and the batter lays the bat down across the  
"plate". Fielder throws or rolls the ball toward the bat,  
attempting to hit the bat with the ball.


If the ball hits the bat, the batter becomes the new catcher, the  
catcher becomes the new pitcher and the fielder becomes the new  
batter.


Balls caught in the air or on first bounce (first hop) count the  
same as having hit the bat.


If the thrown ball misses the bat, the batter continues for another  
3 strikes.


If the batter strikes out, you argue about whose turn it is to bat  
next. Optionally, you can argue about whether the thrown ball  
actually hit the bat or hopped over it.


The game is over when whoever owns the ball & bat has to go home  
for supper ... or something else interesting happens.


We played this in our backyard for hours and hours during the  
summer when I was in grade school, because my mom was the only one  
in the neighborhood who didn't mind having a bunch of noisy kids  
around the house.


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Re: another completely useless off topic question - Roller Bat/RollerBall

[Bob Sullivan]

A sixteen inch softball makes an interesting game.
If you watch some of the good players in Grant Park,
you quickly learn that the ball cannot be driven out of reach.
It's fun to watch strong men windup to hit a 'home run' and get a
short fly ball.
It makes for an interesting game.
Regards, Bob S.

On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 9:11 PM, Christine  Aguila wrote:
> John:  I don't know the name of the game you describe, but in Chicago, we
> played "for hours and hours" a game called 500.  We played with a 16 inch
> softball--the famous--or more accurately--the infamous 16 inch Clincher--16
> inches of hard rock in the shape of a ball.  The Clincher has caused many a
> "jammed finger," and I have one myself.  If I think of it tomorrow, I'll
> take a picture of it and post.  The University of Chicago Hospital has
> perfected a surgical procedure for what is, in fact, called "The Chicago
> Finger," and I'm proud to say I have a "Chicago Finger, but it doesn't cause
> me any pain (yet), so I'll probably not pursue getting the finger
> straightened out.
>
> Chicago has a strong tradition/history of 16 inch softball.  The men's
> leagues, and more specifically the union leagues, are really impressive to
> watch.  Even the advertising industry had coed 16 inch softball leagues,
> though I don't know if they still do--I worked in advertising in the late
> 80s/early 90s, and I played on the team
>
> Anyway, the game went like this:  the batter had to self-pitch then hit the
> ball to kids in the field.  Certain types of catches were worth a certain
> number of points:  something like:  a 2 bounce grounder=25 points; 1 bounce
> grounder=50 points; fly ball=75 points.  The first fielder to reach 500
> points got to bat.
>
> We played 500 when there wasn't enough kids for a softball game, which was
> often; hence, "hours and hours" of 500.
>
> Cheers, Christine
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message - From: "John Sessoms" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 1:47 PM
> Subject: OT: another completely useless off topic question - Roller
> Bat/RollerBall
>
>
>> Anyone else know this game from childhood? I remembered it while thinking
>> of something else the "Consumer Reports cool cameras" thread sparked off.
>>
>> Required equipment:
>> Baseball or softball
>> Baseball or softball bat
>> backyard or vacant lot
>> a bunch of kids
>>
>> Rulz:
>> One batter, pitcher & catcher - everyone else is out-fielders. Anyone can
>> join or leave the game at any time.
>>
>> One base, home plate (which doesn't actually have to be a real base, we
>> often used a cinder block)
>>
>> 3 strikes yer' out, where a strike = swing and miss; if you don't swing,
>> it's a "ball". 4 balls = one strike.
>>
>> "NO! You can't throw it overhand. You have to pitch it underhand so we can
>> hit it! ... Because I said so. It's my bat and my ball."
>>
>> Hit balls are fielded and the batter lays the bat down across the "plate".
>> Fielder throws or rolls the ball toward the bat, attempting to hit the bat
>> with the ball.
>>
>> If the ball hits the bat, the batter becomes the new catcher, the catcher
>> becomes the new pitcher and the fielder becomes the new batter.
>>
>> Balls caught in the air or on first bounce (first hop) count the same as
>> having hit the bat.
>>
>> If the thrown ball misses the bat, the batter continues for another 3
>> strikes.
>>
>> If the batter strikes out, you argue about whose turn it is to bat next.
>> Optionally, you can argue about whether the thrown ball actually hit the bat
>> or hopped over it.
>>
>> The game is over when whoever owns the ball & bat has to go home for
>> supper ... or something else interesting happens.
>>
>> We played this in our backyard for hours and hours during the summer when
>> I was in grade school, because my mom was the only one in the neighborhood
>> who didn't mind having a bunch of noisy kids around the house.
>>
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Re: PESO - Savagenator

[P. J. Alling]

Bambi meets Godzilla?

Luiz Felipe wrote:

That would be Alien vs. Predator? Last Tango in Paris?? Bambi???

LF

David Savage escreveu:


K20D & DA 21mm

Guess which movie I'm excited about seeing tomorrow.

:-D

Cheers,

Dave

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Re: Street entertainer

[Christine Aguila]

I agree; the kids are cute, especially the two on the bike!  Cheers, 
Christine



- Original Message - 
From: "Bob W" 

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Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 3:41 PM
Subject: Street entertainer



I can't stand clowns, mimes and the like - they should all be taken outside
and shot - but I like the kids in this picture:

http://www.web-options.com/Top12/content/L1000339_large.html

Bob


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Re: another completely useless off topic question - Roller Bat/RollerBall

[Christine Aguila]

John:  I don't know the name of the game you describe, but in Chicago, we 
played "for hours and hours" a game called 500.  We played with a 16 inch 
softball--the famous--or more accurately--the infamous 16 inch Clincher--16 
inches of hard rock in the shape of a ball.  The Clincher has caused many a 
"jammed finger," and I have one myself.  If I think of it tomorrow, I'll 
take a picture of it and post.  The University of Chicago Hospital has 
perfected a surgical procedure for what is, in fact, called "The Chicago 
Finger," and I'm proud to say I have a "Chicago Finger, but it doesn't cause 
me any pain (yet), so I'll probably not pursue getting the finger 
straightened out.


Chicago has a strong tradition/history of 16 inch softball.  The men's 
leagues, and more specifically the union leagues, are really impressive to 
watch.  Even the advertising industry had coed 16 inch softball leagues, 
though I don't know if they still do--I worked in advertising in the late 
80s/early 90s, and I played on the team


Anyway, the game went like this:  the batter had to self-pitch then hit the 
ball to kids in the field.  Certain types of catches were worth a certain 
number of points:  something like:  a 2 bounce grounder=25 points; 1 bounce 
grounder=50 points; fly ball=75 points.  The first fielder to reach 500 
points got to bat.


We played 500 when there wasn't enough kids for a softball game, which was 
often; hence, "hours and hours" of 500.


Cheers, Christine








- Original Message - 
From: "John Sessoms" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 1:47 PM
Subject: OT: another completely useless off topic question - Roller 
Bat/RollerBall



Anyone else know this game from childhood? I remembered it while thinking 
of something else the "Consumer Reports cool cameras" thread sparked off.


Required equipment:
Baseball or softball
Baseball or softball bat
backyard or vacant lot
a bunch of kids

Rulz:
One batter, pitcher & catcher - everyone else is out-fielders. Anyone can 
join or leave the game at any time.


One base, home plate (which doesn't actually have to be a real base, we 
often used a cinder block)


3 strikes yer' out, where a strike = swing and miss; if you don't swing, 
it's a "ball". 4 balls = one strike.


"NO! You can't throw it overhand. You have to pitch it underhand so we can 
hit it! ... Because I said so. It's my bat and my ball."


Hit balls are fielded and the batter lays the bat down across the "plate". 
Fielder throws or rolls the ball toward the bat, attempting to hit the bat 
with the ball.


If the ball hits the bat, the batter becomes the new catcher, the catcher 
becomes the new pitcher and the fielder becomes the new batter.


Balls caught in the air or on first bounce (first hop) count the same as 
having hit the bat.


If the thrown ball misses the bat, the batter continues for another 3 
strikes.


If the batter strikes out, you argue about whose turn it is to bat next. 
Optionally, you can argue about whether the thrown ball actually hit the 
bat or hopped over it.


The game is over when whoever owns the ball & bat has to go home for 
supper ... or something else interesting happens.


We played this in our backyard for hours and hours during the summer when 
I was in grade school, because my mom was the only one in the neighborhood 
who didn't mind having a bunch of noisy kids around the house.


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Re: Car History (was Re: Consumer Reports on "cool cameras")

[John Mullan]

My local dealer is within walking distance of the house (even at 10 below 
zero). You don't know how tempting it is. He also sells Maserati's out of 
the same showroom as well as Volvo's. Owning a Volvo worsens the temptation 
because I need to go in there occasionally.


jm
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Ken Waller wrote:


I bet if you went to your local dealer, you could easily get a demo drive 
!


The phrase before the comma would be the difficult part.

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Re: My Son's Web Album

[Walter Hamler]

Thanks all,

I really am excited for him and for his enthusiasm so far. I have
loaned him my FE Zoom and the Power Grip. Next he will probably want
my L20 body! :-)


Walt
On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote:
> He's got a really good eye - some excellent pix in his gallery.  Keep on
> encouraging him!
>
> -p
>
> Walter Hamler wrote:
>>
>> http://www.nathanhamlerphotography.com/
>>
>> Every dad wants his kids to exceed their own talents and I think my
>> dream has come true. He has really developed a good eye I think, and
>> his technical skills are coming along quite rapidly as well.
>>
>> Walt
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Re: Car History (was Re: Consumer Reports on "cool cameras")

[Ken Waller]

My Boxster was only the second car I've had that needed nothing off the 
showroom floor. The other was my GT350, but that was in 66.


Kenneth Waller
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On 6/6/09, Ken Waller  wrote:


2005 Porsche Boxster S new - what can I say, simply the best handling
vehicle I've ever driven - not your typical committee car - these are
designed by people that know what a driver wants & provide it.


I this is the hardest thing to convey to anyone who just thinks a car
has four wheels and gets you from point a to point b. Porsche make
drivers cars straight off the factory floor, I wish I still was able
to afford one (or two as used to be the case).

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Re: My Son's Web Album

[Joseph McAllister]

On Jun 7, 2009, at 12:55 , Walter Hamler wrote:


http://www.nathanhamlerphotography.com/

Every dad wants his kids to exceed their own talents and I think my
dream has come true. He has really developed a good eye I think, and
his technical skills are coming along quite rapidly as well.


He is amassing quite a collection, with many fabulous shots. Kudoes!

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Re: PESO - 'Aerial Warfare'

[Ken Waller]

Thanks for looking & commenting Christine.
The high ISO shots by Paul S. last year, convinced me to upgrade to the K20D 
form The K10D !


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- Original Message - 
From: "Christine Aguila" 

Subject: Re: PESO - 'Aerial Warfare'


I like this very much, Ken.  To my eye it's dramatic and unique.  Pretty 
impressive the 3200 ISO too.  Cheers, Christine



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Check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html

K20D, 600mm f4.0 FA, 1/500, f4.0 3200 ISO

Comments always appreciated.

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Re: Street entertainer

[Joseph McAllister]

On Jun 7, 2009, at 13:41 , Bob W wrote:

I can't stand clowns, mimes and the like - they should all be taken  
outside

and shot - but I like the kids in this picture:

http://www.web-options.com/Top12/content/L1000339_large.html


That's who they are there for

Good capture.

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Re: Car History (was Re: Consumer Reports on "cool cameras")

[Joseph McAllister]

On Jun 7, 2009, at 14:56 , John Francis wrote:


On Sun, Jun 07, 2009 at 10:20:14PM +0100, mike wilson wrote:

Ken Waller wrote:


I bet if you went to your local dealer, you could easily get a  
demo drive !


The phrase before the comma would be the difficult part.


Not here - I'm in Silicon Valley.  Porsche dealerships are commonplace
(my local one is on auto row, next to the Ford/Buick/Toyota/Audi/...
dealerships).  Heck, within five miles I've got a place that wants to
sell me Bentleys, Aston Martins, etc.

Here's their used car lot:

   http://www.jfwaf.com/PAW/PAW.php?name=PAW0710


Well, that got me started on your Picture a Week album until after a  
couple of years I was able to break off and get back to business. Nice  
idea, and nice collection, including some very nice captures. Did I  
glean that you moved here from England?


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Re: Street entertainer

[Ken Waller]

I like the perspective you chose. Nice capture.

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Subject: Street entertainer



I can't stand clowns, mimes and the like - they should all be taken outside
and shot - but I like the kids in this picture:

http://www.web-options.com/Top12/content/L1000339_large.html

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Re: PESO - Lingonberry Flower

[Ken Waller]

Nice capture but I'd somehow diminish the brightness of the two pink spots 
on either side.


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Subject: Re: PESO - Lingonberry Flower



Sorry.. fingertrouble...

C&C appreciated.

http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2009/06/lingonberry-flower.html


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RE: OT Worst web-design ever?

[Bob W]

> 
> I don't like it, either - not easy to look at the pix...
> 
> It's a jAlbum skin called TiltViewer.
> 

The designer must have misread it as TitViewer.


> -p
> 
> Tim Øsleby wrote:
> > Warning. Non office friendly.
> > http://www.glamourinc.com/
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> > The float makes me sick, literally.
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Re: Galia and Boris PESO #021

[Ken Waller]

Or if your macro lens has a tripod foot & you are using an Arca swiss style 
mounting, you can get a long plate for the lens & use that as your 
adjustment mechanism


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- Original Message - 
From: "Bob Sullivan" 

Subject: Re: Galia and Boris PESO #021



Boris,
All the macro lenses change focal lengths as you focus them.
You can get around this with a bellows and rack on a tripod.
You set the focal length/field of view you want, and then
crank the whole lens/bellows/camera back & forth on the rack.
It's clumsy, but allows a very precise framing.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:
Igor, it is known fact that when focusing FA 100/3.5 and its siblings, 
the
whole lens assembly is in motion. That is, all glass pieces move 
together.
This is very interesting, though it seems that toward macro range the 
lens
is changing its focal length. I am saying so because I observe that when 
I
focus the field of view changes as well. FA 100/3.5 is surely a 
fascinating

optic, although simple.

In #1 I must admit that I was starting to feel every so slightly dizzy 
due

to the very subtle wind. Also I am generally not all that steady as some
other photographers ;-). But I should practice more both to improve my
skills and to enhance my mind's stability ;-).

It seems to me that you wanted to send some links to the number of flower
pictures, but you did not.

The reflection shot you posted is rather different than those of mine. 
Yours

seems to be in controlled environment ;-).

Thanks!

Boris



Igor Roshchin wrote:


Boris,

Of the three shots, I like the first the most.

I've been experimenting with shooting various berries and fruits
in the past few years, and I've been getting some similar shots, and
what I concluded for myself that in most cases (especially in shots
similar to your #1 and #2 by composition), I like seeing more DOF.

In #1 I would've tried to make sure that [almost] all stamens (anthers
in particular) are in focus.
By association, I recalled a few shots of mine related to raspberries
which illustrate what I mean.
It is also a raspberry "flower":
IMGP9428.jpg
IMGP9503.jpg
IMGP9527.jpg In these three, I also would like to see large DOF,
especially in the
last two.


As for #3, - as in this one, I find that "frontal" shots of some flowers
don't work for me. I discarded many of mine for this reason.

And to complete the raspberry theme:
http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Raspberries/IMGP9655e.jpg
(I posted this here 1.5 years ago)


Igor



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Re: OT Worst web-design ever?

[Joseph McAllister]

Once I got the first image squared up, I just used the right arrow key  
to go through the album one at a time. Not hard. I mean not difficult.


:-)

On Jun 7, 2009, at 14:31 , Paul Sorenson wrote:


I don't like it, either - not easy to look at the pix...

It's a jAlbum skin called TiltViewer.

-p

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http://www.glamourinc.com/
The float makes me sick, literally.
And no. I was not surfing for glamour.
Someone who disliked the design gave me the link.



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Re: Car History (was Re: Consumer Reports on "cool cameras")

[Scott Loveless]

On 6/6/09, Ken Waller  wrote:
> > There is governor in the black box, ignition cuts Off at 115 MPH and comes
> back on at 110 MPH. Engine
> > Only doing 2800 rpm in fourth gear at 115 MPH.
> >
>
>  FYI -The engine is goverened to that speed due to several things but mainly
> due to the speed rating of the original tires.

I lied.  For a very short time I owned a '73 Mach I with a 351
Cleveland, C6 tranny and 9" rear end.  I never found out how fast it
would go because it got too squirrelly to steer at about 110.  9mpg if
I drove the speed limit.  6mpg if I drove it like it was meant to be
driven.  It's the only American car I've ever owned that I actually
liked.  But a couple months after I bought it a Mustang collector
offered me nearly twice what I paid for it.  I think he was going to
pull the drive train and scrap the body.

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Re: Car History (was Re: Consumer Reports on "cool cameras")

[John Francis]

On Sun, Jun 07, 2009 at 10:20:14PM +0100, mike wilson wrote:
> Ken Waller wrote:
>
>
>> I bet if you went to your local dealer, you could easily get a demo drive !
>
> The phrase before the comma would be the difficult part.

Not here - I'm in Silicon Valley.  Porsche dealerships are commonplace
(my local one is on auto row, next to the Ford/Buick/Toyota/Audi/...
dealerships).  Heck, within five miles I've got a place that wants to
sell me Bentleys, Aston Martins, etc.

Here's their used car lot:

http://www.jfwaf.com/PAW/PAW.php?name=PAW0710


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Re: My Son's Web Album

[Christine Aguila]

Hi Walt:  Wow!  Pretty nice gallery!  I like the mountain bike shots best & 
the skateboard silhouette is very nice.  The wedding shots were fun.  I 
wasn't so keen on the titled horizons, but no biggy there.  Tell your son 
he's off to a great start, and like Paul S. said keep encouraging him! 
Cheers, Christine



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Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 2:55 PM
Subject: My Son's Web Album



http://www.nathanhamlerphotography.com/

Every dad wants his kids to exceed their own talents and I think my
dream has come true. He has really developed a good eye I think, and
his technical skills are coming along quite rapidly as well.

Walt

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Re: OT Worst web-design ever?

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On 6/7/09, Paul Sorenson  wrote:
> I don't like it, either - not easy to look at the pix...
>
>  It's a jAlbum skin called TiltViewer.

The next PUG is gonna be vertigo inducing.  Aviation and Tiltviewer!

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Re: OT Worst web-design ever?

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I don't like it, either - not easy to look at the pix...

It's a jAlbum skin called TiltViewer.

-p

Tim Øsleby wrote:

Warning. Non office friendly.
http://www.glamourinc.com/

The float makes me sick, literally.

And no. I was not surfing for glamour.
Someone who disliked the design gave me the link.






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Re: PESO - Lingonberry Flower

[mike wilson]

AlunFoto wrote:


Sorry.. fingertrouble...

C&C appreciated.

 http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2009/06/lingonberry-flower.html


The only thing I can possibly suggest as a criticism is that maybe more 
DOF would have been an improvement.  Maybe.


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Re: PESO - Lingonberry Flower

[paul stenquist]

Nice. Interesting flower, well rendered.
My dad, a Swede, was a big fan of lingonberries. We used to eat them  
on buttered pancakes.

Paul
On Jun 7, 2009, at 1:33 PM, AlunFoto wrote:


Sorry.. fingertrouble...

C&C appreciated.

http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2009/06/lingonberry-flower.html


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Re: Car History (was Re: Consumer Reports on "cool cameras")

[mike wilson]

Ken Waller wrote:



I bet if you went to your local dealer, you could easily get a demo drive !


The phrase before the comma would be the difficult part.

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Re: PESO: Night Riders

[paul stenquist]

That's close to what I would have done if planned -- perhaps more like  
an 1/i8th shutter speed -- but this was a grab shot.

Paul
On Jun 7, 2009, at 3:14 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote:

I like this. Nice (though too direct for me) lighting, and just  
right shutter speed.


Now think what it would have looked like if you'd used a 1/2 sec  
shutter speed with trailing curtain flash!


On Jun 6, 2009, at 20:00 , paul stenquist wrote:

I rendered this one on my laptop, so I'm not sure that it's exactly  
right, but it's probably close. I'm getting better at guessing:-).


K20D, DA*16-50/2.8, f5.6, 1/45th, ISO 800,  AF 540FGZ flash

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9301842&size=lg


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Re: Oxford PDML Sat 13 or Sun 14?

[mike wilson]

Rick Womer wrote:


In other words, six days from now or seven?

Let me know ASAP.

Rick

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Saturday.

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Re: PESO: Night Riders

[paul stenquist]

Too much flash to see blurring of the spokes. Plus, the bike was going  
quite slow. It was just a grab shot as the bike was leaving a parking  
lot where I was shooting other things. The focal length was 21mm, so  
that gives you an idea of how close I was. But I was intrigued by the  
faces. It's a people pic!

Paul
Paul
On Jun 7, 2009, at 8:17 AM, Jack Davis wrote:



I noticed those red streaks in the background, but thought they were  
probably passing car tail lights. Concluded that if those fairly  
long streaks were caused by the bike movement, I should see obvious  
blurring in the wheel spokes.(?) Interesting.


Jack

--- On Sat, 6/6/09, paul stenquist  wrote:


From: paul stenquist 
Subject: Re: PESO: Night Riders
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Date: Saturday, June 6, 2009, 8:44 PM
Thanks Jack. They're moving. Look at
the lights in the background. I kept this tight because I
didn't want it to be a motorcycle picture. I wanted to focus
attention on the riders.
Paul
On Jun 6, 2009, at 11:20 PM, jdavi...@yahoo.com
wrote:



Impressive image, Paul! Were they moving? I see no

evidence of movement, but then again, you have High Speed
flash. :)

What is shown in the image is beautifully crisp and

well lit, but found myself wanting to see the total bike.



Jack

--- On Sat, 6/6/09, paul stenquist 

wrote:



From: paul stenquist 
Subject: PESO: Night Riders
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Date: Saturday, June 6, 2009, 8:00 PM
I rendered this one on my laptop, so
I'm not sure that it's exactly right, but it's

probably

close. I'm getting better at guessing:-).

K20D, DA*16-50/2.8, f5.6, 1/45th, ISO 800,

AF 540FGZ

flash

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9301842&size=lg

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Re: OT PESO - Assent

[Stan Halpin]

On Jun 6, 2009, at 3:25 PM, David Savage wrote:



David Savage wrote:



Direct Link (~275kb)






You did notice the shapely butt right?

:-)

DS



Was there another subject in the photo? I'll have to go look again.
As Doug says, you can never have enough dear butt.

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Re: Consumer Reports on "cool cameras"

[mike wilson]

Scott Loveless wrote:


On 6/5/09, mike wilson  wrote:


Wow.  Not even a hint of HD.  How unpatriotic.



The last time I looked at an HD was in the mid-90s and the
middle-aged, gold card bikers had pretty much driven the price through
the roof.  If you could even find a bike on a showroom floor it was
marked up about 20% over MSRP plus it had about $3000 worth of
accessory chrome stuck to it.  Guys like me who just wanted a
motorcycle bought Japanese and European bikes because we could get one
without getting bent over.


From what I understand, over the last few years HD has been producing

more bikes than their dealers can sell.  My wife's cousin was recently
laid off from the York plant.  What's happened is that the gold card
crowd is getting too old to ride, or they've just lost interest in it,
but there's no one to replace them.  Those of us who should be buying
their bikes were laughed at 15 years ago when we tried to negotiate a
fair price on the damn things.  I won't forget the way I was treated
by HD's dealers and it will be a cold day in hell before you see me on
one.


Pretty much the same here.  There was the same scenario with the lumpen 
new mini (sorry MINI) although that vehicle didn't have the pseudo 
pirate lifestyle thing attached to it.


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OT Worst web-design ever?

[Tim Øsleby]

Warning. Non office friendly.
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The float makes me sick, literally.

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Someone who disliked the design gave me the link.

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Re: My Son's Web Album

[Paul Sorenson]

He's got a really good eye - some excellent pix in his gallery.  Keep on 
encouraging him!


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Street entertainer

[Bob W]

I can't stand clowns, mimes and the like - they should all be taken outside
and shot - but I like the kids in this picture:

http://www.web-options.com/Top12/content/L1000339_large.html

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Re: PESO - Lingonberry Flower

[David J Brooks]

Very nice flower shot.
Nice and clear and great back ground.

Dave

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Re: PESO - Lingonberry Flower

[Jack Davis]

There are very few images I can honestly say I "like" that enjoy this soft 
ethereal rendering. Gives me a fuzzy head sense. ;)
>From your work I've seen, it's obvious this was your intent.

Jack

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My Son's Web Album

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Re: PESO Bark

[Toine]

No it's real bark on a real birch tree. Maybe 20 cm max diameter. All
with the help from a F100macro.
The new version is
http://tinyurl.com/m4k77w

Toine

2009/6/7 Joseph McAllister :
> Interesting. The bark looks like it's been laid out on a table after a good
> soaking. Or are these looking at a large tree closely?
>
> Love the colors.
>
> On Jun 7, 2009, at 07:57 , Toine wrote:
>
>> I'm only a few hunderd messages behind. If you don't mind I'll mark
>> them all as read.
>>
>> Here's some Birch bark:
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/lots3j
>> http://tinyurl.com/mua96f
>>
>> If you want to view the bark full screen click on the bark.
>
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Re: PESO Bark

[Joseph McAllister]

Link certainly isn't anything like bark...


On Jun 7, 2009, at 10:44 , Toine wrote:


Yes you're right. Uploaded a new version

http://www.repiuk.nl/images/ssp/permalink.html#id=album-126&num=3501

More space isn't available.

2009/6/7 Ken Waller :


But I'd like more space between the top defect & the top edge.


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Re: PESO - Lingonberry Flower

[Joseph McAllister]

Very precise and well composed. Worthy of a book on berries and their  
flowers. You working on one?


On Jun 7, 2009, at 10:33 , AlunFoto wrote:


Sorry.. fingertrouble...

C&C appreciated.

http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2009/06/lingonberry-flower.html


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This thing that you see,
Why in the world,
Would it excite me?
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Re: PESO Bark

[Joseph McAllister]

Interesting. The bark looks like it's been laid out on a table after a  
good soaking. Or are these looking at a large tree closely?


Love the colors.

On Jun 7, 2009, at 07:57 , Toine wrote:


I'm only a few hunderd messages behind. If you don't mind I'll mark
them all as read.

Here's some Birch bark:

http://tinyurl.com/lots3j
http://tinyurl.com/mua96f

If you want to view the bark full screen click on the bark.


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Re: Semi OT PESO - Jet

[Joseph McAllister]

Looks like a street in Vancouver BC. Same adornments. Nice rendering.

But again. The knees…


On Jun 7, 2009, at 05:53 , Derby Chang wrote:

A little PESO for the new month. Barely on-topic too (the Color- 
Heliar has a Hoya filter on it)


http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/09/09_06/09_06_jet/01.htm


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Re: PESO Tallowa Dam

[Joseph McAllister]

Rod, nice counter to Mr. Savages wimpy pano.   :-)

I'd rather it was printed and wrapped around a yard from my head so I  
could see what it looked like.


One thing confused me, and it's your fault. Water is coming off the  
dam on the right, and the same on the left, including the fish ladder,  
but it is going no where! Not back under the dam, surely, then where?  
Is the stitching so bad on the bottom left that you've lost the  
river?   :-)


Savage: I loved the swimming hole shot. The rocks are spectacular.  
Very refreshing looking pond. I prefer tighter buns, sorry.

: - {

On Jun 6, 2009, at 23:10 , Rob Studdert wrote:


Hi Team,

I was inspired to share this image after Mr Savage's recent dam pano,
nothing special just an example of what can be achieved, commendations
or criticisms welcomed of course.

The image shot hand held using a K10D and smc PENTAX-DA 16-45mm F4 ED
AL at fl 16mm, f8, vertical and was automatically assembled using
Autopano and rendered in a cylindrical projection. The source files
consisted of 16 2MP JPGs generated in camera (lots of overlap, that's
the key to shooting successful hand held panos in my experience)
covering about 270 degrees horizontal. It does contain obvious gross
stitching errors at the far left due to parallax error and lack of
cropping but otherwise I think it's pretty good.

The subject is Tallowa Dam in the the Shoalhaven (100km or so south  
of Sydney)


http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/IMGK01843-IMGK01858.jpg
(it's a biggie ~4.15MB)


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Re: PESO: Night Riders

[Joseph McAllister]

I like this. Nice (though too direct for me) lighting, and just right  
shutter speed.


Now think what it would have looked like if you'd used a 1/2 sec  
shutter speed with trailing curtain flash!


On Jun 6, 2009, at 20:00 , paul stenquist wrote:

I rendered this one on my laptop, so I'm not sure that it's exactly  
right, but it's probably close. I'm getting better at guessing:-).


K20D, DA*16-50/2.8, f5.6, 1/45th, ISO 800,  AF 540FGZ flash

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9301842&size=lg


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Re: GESO: cleaning an island

[Joseph McAllister]

Nice documentary of what looks like a fun social outing that does good  
for the world.


Good job!

On Jun 6, 2009, at 18:55 , Luka Knezevic-Strika wrote:


Here's a gallery of photos from a volunteers' action of cleaning a
river island in belgrade from bottles and other garbage brought on by
the river during the spring.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tamoneki/sets/72157619355652744/show/

i was hired as a photographer by one of the organizers to document  
the event.


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Re: OT - Funny car story, while we're at it

[Larry Colen]

On Sat, Jun 06, 2009 at 05:56:28PM -0700, Brendan MacRae wrote:
> 
> "Hey Mariah, do you have an outtie?"
> 
> "Yeah! An Audi 5000!"

A small chuckle: as I read this my friend Mariah was sitting five feet
to my right (looking through the pdml photo book). She has neither an
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OT: another completely useless off topic question - Roller Bat/Roller Ball

[John Sessoms]

Anyone else know this game from childhood? I remembered it while 
thinking of something else the "Consumer Reports cool cameras" thread 
sparked off.


Required equipment:
Baseball or softball
Baseball or softball bat
backyard or vacant lot
a bunch of kids

Rulz:
One batter, pitcher & catcher - everyone else is out-fielders. Anyone 
can join or leave the game at any time.


One base, home plate (which doesn't actually have to be a real base, we 
often used a cinder block)


3 strikes yer' out, where a strike = swing and miss; if you don't swing, 
it's a "ball". 4 balls = one strike.


"NO! You can't throw it overhand. You have to pitch it underhand so we 
can hit it! ... Because I said so. It's my bat and my ball."


Hit balls are fielded and the batter lays the bat down across the 
"plate". Fielder throws or rolls the ball toward the bat, attempting to 
hit the bat with the ball.


If the ball hits the bat, the batter becomes the new catcher, the 
catcher becomes the new pitcher and the fielder becomes the new batter.


Balls caught in the air or on first bounce (first hop) count the same as 
having hit the bat.


If the thrown ball misses the bat, the batter continues for another 3 
strikes.


If the batter strikes out, you argue about whose turn it is to bat next. 
Optionally, you can argue about whether the thrown ball actually hit the 
bat or hopped over it.


The game is over when whoever owns the ball & bat has to go home for 
supper ... or something else interesting happens.


We played this in our backyard for hours and hours during the summer 
when I was in grade school, because my mom was the only one in the 
neighborhood who didn't mind having a bunch of noisy kids around the house.


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Re: Galia and Boris PESO #021

[Igor Roshchin]

Boris,

Yes, I find that all macro lenses and macro filters decrease DOF.
The higher the magnification, the shallower the DOF.
(As Bob mentioned, - bellows is a solution, but I have never tried
that myself.)
I usually try to close down the aperture to enhance DOF.
For many shots I am using F-DA 100/2.8 Macro, and sometimes even
in a combination with a Pentax TC - following the idea mentioned
by somebody most likely on PDML. 

Here are the links to the raspberry "flowers" shots. 
Sorry, that what happens when one is trying to multitask and the
message is written over a course of several hours/days. :-)

http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Raspberries/IMGP9428.jpg
http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Raspberries/IMGP9503.jpg
http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Raspberries/IMGP9527.jpg 

They all are done in a controlled environment, but DOF problem is
the same. In your case, - it is just more complicated.
(Upon a quick look, I didn't find any of the ones I took in the "wild"
handy, - I didn't quite like them, hence I didn't bother to post 
them anywhere.)

By the way, for some macro shots, I found Pedco UltraPod II to be
quite useful:
http://www.rei.com/product/777250
http://www.pedcopods.com/specsup2.htm
It is inexpensive, light, and compact. It is not perfect, but helps:
It is sturdy enough for *istDS, and I would expect it to provide 
reasonable stability even with a havier camera, e.g. K20D.

Igor


On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:
> Igor, it is known fact that when focusing FA 100/3.5 and its siblings, the
> whole lens assembly is in motion. That is, all glass pieces move together.
> This is very interesting, though it seems that toward macro range the lens
> is changing its focal length. I am saying so because I observe that when I
> focus the field of view changes as well. FA 100/3.5 is surely a fascinating
> optic, although simple.
>
> In #1 I must admit that I was starting to feel every so slightly dizzy due
> to the very subtle wind. Also I am generally not all that steady as some
> other photographers ;-). But I should practice more both to improve my
> skills and to enhance my mind's stability ;-).
>
> It seems to me that you wanted to send some links to the number of flower
> pictures, but you did not.
>
> The reflection shot you posted is rather different than those of mine. Yours
> seems to be in controlled environment ;-).
>
> Thanks!
>
> Boris
>
>
>
> Igor Roshchin wrote:
>>
>> Boris,
>>
>> Of the three shots, I like the first the most.
>>
>> I've been experimenting with shooting various berries and fruits
>> in the past few years, and I've been getting some similar shots, and
>> what I concluded for myself that in most cases (especially in shots
>> similar to your #1 and #2 by composition), I like seeing more DOF.
>>
>> In #1 I would've tried to make sure that [almost] all stamens (anthers
>> in particular) are in focus.
>> By association, I recalled a few shots of mine related to raspberries
>> which illustrate what I mean.
>> It is also a raspberry "flower":
>> IMGP9428.jpg
>> IMGP9503.jpg
>> IMGP9527.jpg In these three, I also would like to see large DOF,
>> especially in the
>> last two.
>>


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Re: Galia and Boris PESO #021

[Paul Stenquist]

I like them all in terms of composition and rendering, but I'd like  
more DOF in all as well. Extensive DOF in macros this tight calls for  
a tripod of course and a stop of somewhere approaching f22.

Paul
On Jun 7, 2009, at 12:32 PM, Boris Liberman wrote:


Thanks, Jack.


jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:

Boris,
Raspberry Flower: Appealing due to the peddle array. Raspberry:  
Only makes me a little hungry.

Raspberry Flowers: Just doesn't work for me.
Jack
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From: Boris Liberman 
Subject: Galia and Boris PESO #021
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Date: Saturday, June 6, 2009, 5:44 AM
Hi!

Though I am more than 1000 unread messages behind, I'd risk
posting another PESO. Later on I will post a short write up
about the gear that I used this time.

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2009/06/peso-2009-021.html

Be brutal and honest :-).

Boris

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Re: PESO Bark

[Toine]

Yes you're right. Uploaded a new version

http://www.repiuk.nl/images/ssp/permalink.html#id=album-126&num=3501

More space isn't available.

2009/6/7 Ken Waller :
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> But I'd like more space between the top defect & the top edge.
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Re: PESO - Lingonberry Flower

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Sorry.. fingertrouble...

C&C appreciated.

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Re: PESO - Lingonberry Flower

[Adam Maas]

Very nice email, well composed. Slight lack of link to an image noted ;-)

-Adam

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PESO - Lingonberry Flower

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Re: OT - Big Changes

[Toine]

Frank, I would really miss your peso's. Maybe the online version of
photoshop www.photoshop.com works for you.

Toine

2009/6/2 frank theriault :
> Well, this has happened before - most recently about two years ago -
> and it's happening again.
>
> I'm no longer a dispatcher, I'm a bike messenger again.  We've been
> hit hard by the recession and our numbers are down so much that we
> don't need two dispatchers (one for bikes and one for cars).
>
> My salary stays the same, in fact it might even be a bit better, since
> I'll be on a guarantee plus commission if I "break my guarantee", so
> that's all good.  And this is a great time of the year weather-wise to
> be back on the road;  I hate the winter, but love riding in the
> summer, so this should be fun (at least for a while).
>
> I'll also be taking my camera along with me from time to time, so this
> could be a good opportunity to document "the messenger life" for a
> bit...
>
> The down-side (for me, if not for you) is that I don't have a home
> computer and since I won't be sitting at this work computer after
> today, my posts to the list will be way down.  And whatever public
> computer I post from won't have any imaging software in it, so my
> PESOs from today will likely be the last we'll be seeing for a while.
>
> This could be interesting...
>
> cheers,
> frank
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Re: Galia and Boris PESO #021

[Bob Sullivan]

Boris,
Maybe we can get Frank to pedal out and take some pictures of flower
petals.  :-)
I understand about Galia learning photography step by step, but I
would mention the faded petal.
It isn't so much a photo thing as a nature, biological process, faded
beauty thing.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:
> Thanks Bob.
>
> All there were shot hand held. I had to dial up ISO 400 to ensure fast
> enough shutter speed given the weather conditions.
>
> As for Galia's shot - I only ask Galia to look for what she thinks looks
> beautiful. When I see that she has attained (achieved?) certain level, we
> will move forward to other aspects of photography.
>
> Oh, by the way, you seem to have made similar mistake (pedal!) to that of
> Jack. That's funny ;-).
>
> Thanks for your kind words
>
> Boris
>
>
>
> Bob Sullivan wrote:
>>
>> Boris,
>> Nice job on the Raspberry flower.  It is a pleasing composition and
>> lots of detail is in focus.  Hard to do!
>> The second shot of the fruit itself is technically fine, but not so
>> exciting. It does convey a sense of fullness of the berry.
>> The best part of Galia's photo is how the two blossoms and the leaves
>> to the right are in sharp focus.  The 3rd blossom on the left is a
>> distraction being out of focus.  And tell her to look for blossoms
>> that are new.  The top blossom has a pedal that is fading at 2
>> o'clock.  She has done a very nice job overall.
>> Regards,  Bob S.
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Re: Galia and Boris PESO #021

[Bob Sullivan]

Boris,
All the macro lenses change focal lengths as you focus them.
You can get around this with a bellows and rack on a tripod.
You set the focal length/field of view you want, and then
crank the whole lens/bellows/camera back & forth on the rack.
It's clumsy, but allows a very precise framing.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:
> Igor, it is known fact that when focusing FA 100/3.5 and its siblings, the
> whole lens assembly is in motion. That is, all glass pieces move together.
> This is very interesting, though it seems that toward macro range the lens
> is changing its focal length. I am saying so because I observe that when I
> focus the field of view changes as well. FA 100/3.5 is surely a fascinating
> optic, although simple.
>
> In #1 I must admit that I was starting to feel every so slightly dizzy due
> to the very subtle wind. Also I am generally not all that steady as some
> other photographers ;-). But I should practice more both to improve my
> skills and to enhance my mind's stability ;-).
>
> It seems to me that you wanted to send some links to the number of flower
> pictures, but you did not.
>
> The reflection shot you posted is rather different than those of mine. Yours
> seems to be in controlled environment ;-).
>
> Thanks!
>
> Boris
>
>
>
> Igor Roshchin wrote:
>>
>> Boris,
>>
>> Of the three shots, I like the first the most.
>>
>> I've been experimenting with shooting various berries and fruits
>> in the past few years, and I've been getting some similar shots, and
>> what I concluded for myself that in most cases (especially in shots
>> similar to your #1 and #2 by composition), I like seeing more DOF.
>>
>> In #1 I would've tried to make sure that [almost] all stamens (anthers
>> in particular) are in focus.
>> By association, I recalled a few shots of mine related to raspberries
>> which illustrate what I mean.
>> It is also a raspberry "flower":
>> IMGP9428.jpg
>> IMGP9503.jpg
>> IMGP9527.jpg In these three, I also would like to see large DOF,
>> especially in the
>> last two.
>>
>>
>> As for #3, - as in this one, I find that "frontal" shots of some flowers
>> don't work for me. I discarded many of mine for this reason.
>>
>> And to complete the raspberry theme:
>> http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Raspberries/IMGP9655e.jpg
>> (I posted this here 1.5 years ago)
>>
>>
>> Igor
>
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Re: Photoshop workshop question ... pdml

[Ken Waller]

Godfry - I was comtemplating things to suggest to you & coming up with 
nothing other than what has already been suggested.


I think Boris's idea is right on, after all isn't that what most digital 
photogs are interested in, the final product be it printed on for posting on 
the web ?



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- Original Message - 
From: "Boris Liberman" 

Subject: Re: Photoshop workshop question ... pdml


Godfrey, what I am thinking of is this. You have 4 4-hour sessions all 
together (2 days * 2 sessions each). So you could choose one photograph 
for each session and show how to process/render it from start to finish, 
may be in several ways time/complexity of processing permitting. If you 
choose each photo from its own genre (be it b/w or landscape or nocturne 
or anything else) - it would give your audience wholesome experience, so 
to say.


HTH.

Boris.



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I'm working on a workshop proposal at present.

What would you like to see in a "beyond the basics" Photoshop
workshop? Consider a two-day workshop, two four-hour sessions, as the
time for a given workshop, but don't limit your ideas to just what you
think could be covered in that time.

Email either to me or to the list as you feel appropriate.
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Re: PESO Bark

[Ken Waller]

Interesting & different ! Nice solors.
But I'd like more space between the top defect & the top edge.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Toine" 

Subject: PESO Bark



I'm only a few hunderd messages behind. If you don't mind I'll mark
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Re: Semi OT PESO - Jet

[Ken Waller]

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - 
From: "Bob W" 

Subject: RE: Semi OT PESO - Jet




A little PESO for the new month. Barely on-topic too (the 
Color-Heliar 
has a Hoya filter on it)


http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/09/09_06/09_06_jet/01.htm

D



the colour, light, composition and general 'texture' of that photo are
superb.

The girls aren't bad either.


Might say shapely !



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Re: Galia and Boris PESO #021

[Boris Liberman]

Igor, it is known fact that when focusing FA 100/3.5 and its siblings, 
the whole lens assembly is in motion. That is, all glass pieces move 
together. This is very interesting, though it seems that toward macro 
range the lens is changing its focal length. I am saying so because I 
observe that when I focus the field of view changes as well. FA 100/3.5 
is surely a fascinating optic, although simple.


In #1 I must admit that I was starting to feel every so slightly dizzy 
due to the very subtle wind. Also I am generally not all that steady as 
some other photographers ;-). But I should practice more both to improve 
my skills and to enhance my mind's stability ;-).


It seems to me that you wanted to send some links to the number of 
flower pictures, but you did not.


The reflection shot you posted is rather different than those of mine. 
Yours seems to be in controlled environment ;-).


Thanks!

Boris



Igor Roshchin wrote:

Boris,

Of the three shots, I like the first the most.

I've been experimenting with shooting various berries and fruits
in the past few years, and I've been getting some similar shots, and
what I concluded for myself that in most cases (especially in shots
similar to your #1 and #2 by composition), I like seeing more DOF.

In #1 I would've tried to make sure that [almost] all stamens (anthers
in particular) are in focus. 


By association, I recalled a few shots of mine related to raspberries
which illustrate what I mean.
It is also a raspberry "flower":
IMGP9428.jpg
IMGP9503.jpg
IMGP9527.jpg 
In these three, I also would like to see large DOF, especially in the

last two.


As for #3, - as in this one, I find that "frontal" shots of some flowers
don't work for me. I discarded many of mine for this reason.

And to complete the raspberry theme:
http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Raspberries/IMGP9655e.jpg
(I posted this here 1.5 years ago)


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Re: Semi OT PESO - Jet

[Ken Waller]

Nicely done, I like the 'feel'(your choice of toning) to it.

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "Derby Chang" 

To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 8:53 AM
Subject: Semi OT PESO - Jet


A little PESO for the new month. Barely on-topic too (the Color-Heliar 
has a Hoya filter on it)


http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/09/09_06/09_06_jet/01.htm

D

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Re: Galia and Boris PESO #021

[Boris Liberman]

Thanks, Joe!

27...@comcast.net wrote:

Hey Boris, I like this one, Joe

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_k-kHHC9rZSk/Sipjkk0cgBI/Alo/FsgTD4a0u8g/s1600-h/IGP18445.jpg


From: "Boris Liberman" 
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Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2009 8:44:38 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Galia and Boris PESO #021

Hi!

Though I am more than 1000 unread messages behind, I'd risk posting 
another PESO. Later on I will post a short write up about the gear that 
I used this time.


http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2009/06/peso-2009-021.html

Be brutal and honest :-).

Boris

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Re: Galia and Boris PESO #021

[Boris Liberman]

Thanks Bob.

All there were shot hand held. I had to dial up ISO 400 to ensure fast 
enough shutter speed given the weather conditions.


As for Galia's shot - I only ask Galia to look for what she thinks looks 
beautiful. When I see that she has attained (achieved?) certain level, 
we will move forward to other aspects of photography.


Oh, by the way, you seem to have made similar mistake (pedal!) to that 
of Jack. That's funny ;-).


Thanks for your kind words

Boris



Bob Sullivan wrote:

Boris,
Nice job on the Raspberry flower.  It is a pleasing composition and
lots of detail is in focus.  Hard to do!
The second shot of the fruit itself is technically fine, but not so
exciting. It does convey a sense of fullness of the berry.
The best part of Galia's photo is how the two blossoms and the leaves
to the right are in sharp focus.  The 3rd blossom on the left is a
distraction being out of focus.  And tell her to look for blossoms
that are new.  The top blossom has a pedal that is fading at 2
o'clock.  She has done a very nice job overall.
Regards,  Bob S.



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Re: FA28-70/4 on digital: any good ?

[Ken Waller]

Not familiar with that lens, but I've used the 28-80mm f3.5-4.5 SMC Pentax F 
for the last 20 years with great results - plus its built like a tank. I've 
used it on the *ist D, K10D & K20D.


I have a couple, if you're interested.

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "Thibouille" 

Subject: FA28-70/4 on digital: any good ?



I know this lens was well regarded in film era but what about its
digital performances?
Would it be worth chasing it?
What price would be acceptable for that lens ?


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Re: Galia and Boris PESO #021

[David J Brooks]

Interesting floser. I have never heard of it.

I like the DOF chosen, and the placement of the brown bits on the stems.

Dave

On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 8:44 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Though I am more than 1000 unread messages behind, I'd risk posting another
> PESO. Later on I will post a short write up about the gear that I used this
> time.
>
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2009/06/peso-2009-021.html
>
> Be brutal and honest :-).
>
> Boris
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Re: Galia and Boris PESO #021

[Boris Liberman]

Methinks peddle is a valid English word therefore speller would let it 
slip through...


Jack Davis wrote:

Guess those things are "petals" huh? ...got to remember to spell check. :(

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Re: Galia and Boris PESO #021

[Boris Liberman]

Thanks, Jack.


jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:

Boris,

Raspberry Flower: Appealing due to the peddle array. 


Raspberry: Only makes me a little hungry.

Raspberry Flowers: Just doesn't work for me.

Jack


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From: Boris Liberman 
Subject: Galia and Boris PESO #021
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Date: Saturday, June 6, 2009, 5:44 AM
Hi!

Though I am more than 1000 unread messages behind, I'd risk
posting another PESO. Later on I will post a short write up
about the gear that I used this time.

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2009/06/peso-2009-021.html

Be brutal and honest :-).

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Re: Semi OT PESO - Jet

[David J Brooks]

I like the soft feel to the photo, and the columns.

Oh and the girls

Dave

On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 8:53 AM, Derby Chang wrote:
> A little PESO for the new month. Barely on-topic too (the Color-Heliar has a
> Hoya filter on it)
>
> http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/09/09_06/09_06_jet/01.htm
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Re: Car History (was Re: Consumer Reports on "cool cameras")

[Ken Waller]

I'd like to drive one some time, to see how much difference there is
in handling between the Porsche and a BMW.


Funny you should mention that 

Back in the spring of 05 I got a post card from Porsche, inviting me to any 
Porsche dealer to drive any Porsche I desired. I chose the Boxster cause I 
had heard some great things and it was relatively within my reach - 
financially.


Well after an hour test drive I was thoroughly impressed, so much so that I 
instantly went from curious to intent. Took the wife for a ride and she 
NUDGED me on to get one ! I talked a little more seriously with the sales 
guy (a really great car guy who never tried to sell  me a thing - he let the 
car sell itself). Reading me correctly, he actually told me of some things 
not to put on the car. I then ordered a new 05 'S' to be built in Finland & 
presto about 3 months later my Seal Grey Boxster S ( built to my specs, 
(including 19" wheels/tires, wind blocker & floor mats) magically appeared 
in the driveway.


I bet if you went to your local dealer, you could easily get a demo drive !

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From: "John Francis" 


Subject: Re: Car History (was Re: Consumer Reports on "cool cameras")



On Sun, Jun 07, 2009 at 03:36:19PM +1000, Rob Studdert wrote:

On 6/6/09, Ken Waller  wrote:

> 2005 Porsche Boxster S new - what can I say, simply the best handling
> vehicle I've ever driven - not your typical committee car - these are
> designed by people that know what a driver wants & provide it.

I this is the hardest thing to convey to anyone who just thinks a car
has four wheels and gets you from point a to point b. Porsche make
drivers cars straight off the factory floor, I wish I still was able
to afford one (or two as used to be the case).


I'd like to drive one some time, to see how much difference there is
in handling between the Porsche and a BMW.

Of course what I'd really like is to persuade somebody I know, albeit
only casually, to let me loose on his stable.  He's got a Ferrari, a
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Re: PESO Bark

[David J Brooks]

Almost an abstract painting feel to it.

Well done,.

Dave

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> I'm only a few hunderd messages behind. If you don't mind I'll mark
> them all as read.
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> Here's some Birch bark:
>
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> http://tinyurl.com/mua96f
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> If you want to view the bark full screen click on the bark.
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Re: PESO Tallowa Dam

[Ken Waller]

Nice knitting job. I can see why you took this.
Nits for me are the harsh light & the inclusion of too much blank sky - a 
crop across the top, down to about halfway to the peak on the left would 
improve this IMHO.



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- Original Message - 
From: "Rob Studdert" 

Subject: PESO Tallowa Dam



Hi Team,

I was inspired to share this image after Mr Savage's recent dam pano,
nothing special just an example of what can be achieved, commendations
or criticisms welcomed of course.

The image shot hand held using a K10D and smc PENTAX-DA 16-45mm F4 ED
AL at fl 16mm, f8, vertical and was automatically assembled using
Autopano and rendered in a cylindrical projection. The source files
consisted of 16 2MP JPGs generated in camera (lots of overlap, that's
the key to shooting successful hand held panos in my experience)
covering about 270 degrees horizontal. It does contain obvious gross
stitching errors at the far left due to parallax error and lack of
cropping but otherwise I think it's pretty good.

The subject is Tallowa Dam in the the Shoalhaven (100km or so south of 
Sydney)


http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/IMGK01843-IMGK01858.jpg
(it's a biggie ~4.15MB)

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Re: OT - Big Changes

[Boris Liberman]

I will be thinking of you, Frank and looking you up every now and then 
on Google and otherwise...


Keep well!

Boris


frank theriault wrote:

Well, this has happened before - most recently about two years ago -
and it's happening again.

I'm no longer a dispatcher, I'm a bike messenger again.  We've been
hit hard by the recession and our numbers are down so much that we
don't need two dispatchers (one for bikes and one for cars).

My salary stays the same, in fact it might even be a bit better, since
I'll be on a guarantee plus commission if I "break my guarantee", so
that's all good.  And this is a great time of the year weather-wise to
be back on the road;  I hate the winter, but love riding in the
summer, so this should be fun (at least for a while).

I'll also be taking my camera along with me from time to time, so this
could be a good opportunity to document "the messenger life" for a
bit...

The down-side (for me, if not for you) is that I don't have a home
computer and since I won't be sitting at this work computer after
today, my posts to the list will be way down.  And whatever public
computer I post from won't have any imaging software in it, so my
PESOs from today will likely be the last we'll be seeing for a while.

This could be interesting...

cheers,
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Re: Photoshop workshop question ... pdml

[Boris Liberman]

Godfrey, what I am thinking of is this. You have 4 4-hour sessions all 
together (2 days * 2 sessions each). So you could choose one photograph 
for each session and show how to process/render it from start to finish, 
may be in several ways time/complexity of processing permitting. If you 
choose each photo from its own genre (be it b/w or landscape or nocturne 
or anything else) - it would give your audience wholesome experience, so 
to say.


HTH.

Boris.



Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

I'm working on a workshop proposal at present.

What would you like to see in a "beyond the basics" Photoshop
workshop? Consider a two-day workshop, two four-hour sessions, as the
time for a given workshop, but don't limit your ideas to just what you
think could be covered in that time.

Email either to me or to the list as you feel appropriate.
All ideas welcome. Tnx!




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Re: Semi OT PESO - Jet

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Derby Chang" 
Subject: Semi OT PESO - Jet



A little PESO for the new month. Barely on-topic too (the Color-Heliar 
has a Hoya filter on it)


http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/09/09_06/09_06_jet/01.htm



Bad knees.
:-)


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Re: PESO Bark

[Jack Davis]

Like it very much, Toine! Well chosen segment and pastels.

Jack

--- On Sun, 6/7/09, Toine  wrote:

> From: Toine 
> Subject: PESO Bark
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Sunday, June 7, 2009, 7:57 AM
> I'm only a few hunderd messages
> behind. If you don't mind I'll mark
> them all as read.
> 
> Here's some Birch bark:
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/lots3j
> http://tinyurl.com/mua96f
> 
> If you want to view the bark full screen click on the
> bark.
> 
> Toine
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PESO Bark

[Toine]

I'm only a few hunderd messages behind. If you don't mind I'll mark
them all as read.

Here's some Birch bark:

http://tinyurl.com/lots3j
http://tinyurl.com/mua96f

If you want to view the bark full screen click on the bark.

Toine

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Re: FA28-70/4 on digital: any good ?

[Joseph McAllister]

I paid $100 US for one a year ago to replace my original which had the  
element separation problem. It  is still going well (let me check...)  
today. Very small and light, inner tube wobbles a bit like most of  
those from that era, but that's not detrimental.


Still, I tend to use the FA 28-105 more, when I go back to those  
lenses. Don't know why, as it's heavier, and wobbles more. I guess for  
the range.


50 Euros seems a bargain.


On Jun 7, 2009, at 01:24 , Thibouille wrote:


I know this lens was well regarded in film era but what about its
digital performances?
Would it be worth chasing it?
What price would be acceptable for that lens ?


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RE: Oxford PDML Sat 13 or Sun 14?

[Bob W]

either is good for me

Bob 

> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Rick Womer
> Sent: 07 June 2009 11:55
> To: Pentax List
> Subject: Oxford PDML Sat 13 or Sun 14?
> 
> 
> In other words, six days from now or seven?
> 
> Let me know ASAP.
> 
> Rick
> 
> http://photo.net/photos/RickW
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Re: Semi OT PESO - Jet

[Cotty]

On 7/6/09, Derby Chang, discombobulated, unleashed:

>A little PESO for the new month. Barely on-topic too (the Color-Heliar
>has a Hoya filter on it)
>
>http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/09/09_06/09_06_jet/01.htm

Great atmosphere in this one

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Re: Oxford PDML Sat 13 or Sun 14?

[Cotty]

On 7/6/09, Rick Womer, discombobulated, unleashed:

>
>In other words, six days from now or seven?
>
>Let me know ASAP.

Either day for me - I gather Saturday would be better for Mike?

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RE: Semi OT PESO - Jet

[Bob W]

> A little PESO for the new month. Barely on-topic too (the 
> Color-Heliar 
> has a Hoya filter on it)
> 
> http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/09/09_06/09_06_jet/01.htm
> 
> D
> 

the colour, light, composition and general 'texture' of that photo are
superb.

The girls aren't bad either.

Bob


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Re: GESO: cleaning an island

[Boris Liberman]

Very well done! I should borrow from you few technical ideas when
opportunity presents itself...

Thanks for sharing.

On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 4:55 AM, Luka
Knezevic-Strika wrote:
> Here's a gallery of photos from a volunteers' action of cleaning a
> river island in belgrade from bottles and other garbage brought on by
> the river during the spring.
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/tamoneki/sets/72157619355652744/show/
>
> i was hired as a photographer by one of the organizers to document the event.
> cheers,
> luka
>
> ps all photos k10d, da* 16-50, fa 50 1.4
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Re: Pentax Users Gallery

[John Sessoms]

From: Matthew Miller

On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 08:17:27PM -0400, Graydon wrote:

> > Here they are, what do you think ? Thanks Joe
> > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9296930

> Really splendid photo but it's violent (at least implicatively) so the
> PUG won't generally take it.


Took me a while to figure out where the implicit violence was in the banjo
scene.  :) 


What you really need is an accordion.  Burns longer and gives a brighter 
flame.


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Re: Consumer Reports on "cool cameras"

[John Sessoms]

From: "William Robb"
- Original Message - 
From: "paul stenquist"

Subject: Re: Consumer Reports on "cool cameras"

> The union guys would say its immoral. Obama and the dems would  probably 
> agree, since they agree with everything the unions say.  But,  no, it's 
> not illegal or immoral, but the non-union shops gave the  Japanese 
> automakers a huge cost advantage over the domestic industry.


At least they set up plants in Noth America, although they had to be coerced 
into it, iirc.


ENTICED might be a better word.

The manufacturers were already looking to build over here to save the 
cost shipping. Even if they'd located the factories inside UAW 
headquarters, labor costs would still have been lower than domestic 
Japanese wages.


The plants went to the states who offered the largest giveaways & tax 
"incentives".



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Re: Semi OT PESO - Jet

[Jack Davis]

Couple of 'working girls?' Interesting mood well caught.

Jack

--- On Sun, 6/7/09, Derby Chang  wrote:

> From: Derby Chang 
> Subject: Semi OT PESO - Jet
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Sunday, June 7, 2009, 5:53 AM
> A little PESO for the new month.
> Barely on-topic too (the Color-Heliar has a Hoya filter on
> it)
> 
> http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/09/09_06/09_06_jet/01.htm
> 
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Re: PESO: Late Afternoon

[Bob Sullivan]

Brian,
Thanks for the comment.
The setting sun made the sky quite bright, and made holding detail difficult.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 7:56 AM, Brian Walters wrote:
> That's really nice - I like the framing with the two trees right and
> left.  Perhaps a little pale at the top, but maybe that's the way it
> was.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Brian
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> ++
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>
> On Fri, 05 Jun 2009 17:00 -0500, "Bob Sullivan" 
> wrote:
>> Here's a photo I waited for in Smokey Mt. National Park.
>> I did some curves adjustments on it in PS Elements 5,
>> until it looked like what I thought it should.  (Thanks Tony Sweet)
>> Tell me what you think.
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9296687&size=lg
>> Regards,  Bob S.
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Re: FA28-70/4 on digital: any good ?

[Keith Whaley]

Adam Maas wrote:

The issue with this lens is that it's quite prone to unrepairable
element separation.

-Adam


Well, we'll soon find out.
Mine is on it's way back from Pentax Colorado, presumably "repaired."
I don't know if they will say what they did with it, but when it 
arrives, I'll get back and report on it!


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Re: GFM-Three-last one-with a few pics

[Brian Walters]

On Sun, 07 Jun 2009 22:49 +1000, "Derby Chang" 
wrote:

> 
> Just worked my way through all of the GFM posts. Highly entertaining, 
> and almost as good as being there. Almost.



I agree about the entertaining posts - thanks to all who went, saw and
posted.

But it's not in the least 'almost as good as being there'.


:-)>



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Re: PESO Tallowa Dam

[David Savage]

Yeah not bad I suppose...

*hunts for his retaliatory "shot"*

:-)

DS

2009/6/7 Rob Studdert :
> Hi Team,
>
> I was inspired to share this image after Mr Savage's recent dam pano,
> nothing special just an example of what can be achieved, commendations
> or criticisms welcomed of course.
>
> The image shot hand held using a K10D and smc PENTAX-DA 16-45mm F4 ED
> AL at fl 16mm, f8, vertical and was automatically assembled using
> Autopano and rendered in a cylindrical projection. The source files
> consisted of 16 2MP JPGs generated in camera (lots of overlap, that's
> the key to shooting successful hand held panos in my experience)
> covering about 270 degrees horizontal. It does contain obvious gross
> stitching errors at the far left due to parallax error and lack of
> cropping but otherwise I think it's pretty good.
>
> The subject is Tallowa Dam in the the Shoalhaven (100km or so south of Sydney)
>
> http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/IMGK01843-IMGK01858.jpg
> (it's a biggie ~4.15MB)

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Re: OT - Wanna' see a big pano?

[David Savage]

2009/6/7 Rob Studdert :
> On 6/7/09, David Savage  wrote:
>> G'day,
>>
>> Went for a drive to clear my head today, took the camera just in case,
>> & ended up at Serpentine Dam
>>
>> I have so many of these damn (no pun intended) things (116 processed
>> so far) I'm throwing up full sized versions just for shits & giggles:
>>
>> Large version (~140kb)
>> 
>>
>> Original (22938x4178 pixels, ~13.5MB)
>> 
>>
>> 14 frames, EvilD700cam, with AF-Spawn 24-70mm f2.8.
>>
>> Nothing ground breaking, posted just for the hell of it.
>
> Show-off, I might raise you

Them's fighting words...

Cry nodal & let loose the panos of war!

:-D

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Re: PESO: Late Afternoon

[Brian Walters]

That's really nice - I like the framing with the two trees right and
left.  Perhaps a little pale at the top, but maybe that's the way it
was.



Cheers

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On Fri, 05 Jun 2009 17:00 -0500, "Bob Sullivan" 
wrote:
> Here's a photo I waited for in Smokey Mt. National Park.
> I did some curves adjustments on it in PS Elements 5,
> until it looked like what I thought it should.  (Thanks Tony Sweet)
> Tell me what you think.
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9296687&size=lg
> Regards,  Bob S.
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Re: OT - Wanna' see a big pano?

[David Savage]

Thanks Igor.

Cheers,

Dave

2009/6/7 Igor Roshchin :
>
>
> I like it! Nice combination of the light/sky.
> Thanks for sharing!
>
> Igor
>
> On Jun 6, 2009, at 4:44 PM, David Savage wrote:
>> G'day,
>>
>> Went for a drive to clear my head today, took the camera just in case,
>> & ended up at Serpentine Dam
>>
>> I have so many of these damn (no pun intended) things (116 processed
>> so far) I'm throwing up full sized versions just for shits & giggles:
>>
>> Large version (~140kb)
>> 
>>
>> Original (22938x4178 pixels, ~13.5MB)
>> 
>>
>> 14 frames, EvilD700cam, with AF-Spawn 24-70mm f2.8.
>>
>> Nothing ground breaking, posted just for the hell of it.

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Re: FA28-70/4 on digital: any good ?

[Boris Liberman]

Thibs, I am afraid I will have to vote 'contra' here. I've had this
lens and it bit the dust the same way as all its siblings - separated.
AFAIU, the separation is a matter of time and given the time when the
last of these lenses was produced, you might be wasting your time and
money.

There are better lenses out there.

Boris

On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Thibouille wrote:
> Yeah I remember that and if I remember well, not easily repairable by Pentax.
> I wonder if at 50 Euros it would be worth the try r not.
>
> On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Adam Maas wrote:
>> The issue with this lens is that it's quite prone to unrepairable
>> element separation.
>>
>> -Adam
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 4:24 AM, Thibouille  wrote:
>>> I know this lens was well regarded in film era but what about its
>>> digital performances?
>>> Would it be worth chasing it?
>>> What price would be acceptable for that lens ?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you all.
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Re: OT PESO - Assent

[Derby Chang]

David Savage wrote:

2009/6/7 Mark Roberts :
  

David Savage wrote:



G'day folks.

Another from up north:



Direct Link (~275kb)


  

Cool shot! But shouldn't that be "Ascent" or am I missing some odd
Australian joke?



Yes it should be.

You did notice the shapely butt right?

:-)

DS


  



Shapely is going to be my new go-to term of photographic appreciation now.

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Re: OT PESO - Assent

[David Savage]

:-)

That's light shining through the section of gorge above the entrance
to the pool.

Cheers,

Dave

2009/6/7 Brian Walters :
> That's spectacular - and not just for the colour in the rock face.
>
> Is that yellow streak in the water a patch of reflected sunlight?
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Brian
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> ++
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> On Sat, 06 Jun 2009 19:39 +0800, "David Savage" 
> wrote:
>> G'day folks.
>>
>> Another from up north:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Direct Link (~275kb)
>>
>> 
>>
>> Enjoy,
>>
>> Cheers,

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