Re: Not a vintage year
I don't know exactly what a vintage year means for you, Bob, but I surely liked the photographs that you presented. Boris On 12/29/2009 11:16 PM, Bob W wrote: for my photography - too many other things have distracted me and I haven't been able to make time for photography. On top of that, my M8 spent a lot of time in Germany having the beer washed out, and some imbecile superglued the OK button on my E-1. Nevertheless, here is the pick of the year for me: http://www.web-options.com/2009/ Probably a bit early to post, but if I take any masterpieces over the next couple of days I'll amend it. Bob Despair young and never look back --- Samuel Becket -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New GFM pics from Stefan
Stef rules! On 12/27/2009 9:24 PM, Cotty wrote: Well here's another job I've been meaning to do for months. When my son Stefan attended GFM last May, he took lots of pics with the *ist Ds and various lenses. On the way back across the Atlantic he was building a website with iWeb. Hasn't quite got the finesse of a proper web building app, but it certainly works. I've imported it into my web app and put his pages up on my site - enjoy! http://www.cottysnaps.com/stef/index.html Disclaimer: somehow he managed to import his jpegs at minimal settings so file sizes are small, with no links to larger pics at this time - we'll start from scratch once I've given him the basics in Softpress Freeway. He's not on the list, so if you want to email him direct he will welcome any input! strikers...@mac.com -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why Pentax?
2010/1/17 Margus Männik mar...@eol.ee: The most surprising part is, that we don't take any less GOOD pictures than C, N, O or S owners MARK! -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I REALLY hate squirrels
On 16/1/10, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: At least you can make friends with a cat most of the time. Words I never thought I would see in a Robb post! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I REALLY hate squirrels
paul stenquist wrote: On Jan 16, 2010, at 8:07 PM, William Robb wrote: [...squirrel lore snipped...] You need coyotes. We had a lot of squirrel and rabbit problems up until a few years ago. Up until the coyotes moved back into town. Now all is well. Paul William Robb I have an INDOOR cat, who loves to chatter right back at all of our squirrels. Each window is his wide screen TV to his outside world, and he uses 'em all ~ with gusto! I've grown up around community-resident creatures, tamed and untamed, but cannot picture how a coyote could sneak up on a squirrel! Oh, I totally believe your tales of coyotes keeping the squirrel population down, but might that not be squirrels leaving the territory rapidly, when they get wind of a coyote in the neighborhood? I know, it doesn't matter, does it. The idea is to have the squirrels out of the way. Whatever works... g keith whaley -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Abstract Ice
On 1/15/2010 10:37 PM, Tom C wrote: Driving to town yesterday, there was a freezing fog and I saw some views that intrigued me. So I pulled off and went to shoot. Well I wasn't in my best form, was feeling rushed, and I didn't really capture the scenes I hoped to. However both getting out of the car and back in I was looking at the frozen puddles of ice and snow on the ground. This is what I saw, with a K7 and DA 18-250. http://photo.net/photodb/presentation?presentation_id=491158 Tom Tom, the last one is the best one! Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Why Pentax?
First camera was a Practika, then a Fujica - but my first real camera was a Pentax MX - I chose Pentax because at the time (back in 1980) it was considered a camera for artists - while Nikon and Canon were more the beaters for the pro snappers. I wanted to be associated with a discerning elite, not a gang of ruffians. Real arthouse photographers used Pentax gear and I loved that. My first SLR was a Zenit E, which one of my uncles gave me for my 18th birthday. When I decided I wanted a better quality camera I surveyed everything I could reasonably afford and the MX gave the best bang for the buck without forcing automation on me. At the time my best photo buddy had an Olympus OM-1, but I couldn't justify the extra cost of one of them over the MX. I can't remember which Nikons and Canons I compared, but they were much more expensive and gave you nothing extra, other than brand value for whatever that's worth. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
A word about cats, was OT: I REALLY hate squirrels
- Original Message - From: steve harley Subject: Re: OT: I REALLY hate squirrels cats aren't stupid -- unless one is starving, catching squirrels is too big a risk; birds are (unfortunately) much easier prey for cats; that's why we put bell-collars on our outdoor cats (who are outdoor because they are semi-feral) Here's a little hint: If you want a cat that will hunt squirrels, get one from a rural area. Farm cats hunt ground prey, city cats hunt birds as a semi general rule. While cats may not be stupid (though this is pretty debatable I don't think they are especially smart), they don't seem capable of changing their prey habits. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: naked... etc. etc.
...must have been looking for the Poontax Discuss Mailing List. Bob -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts Sent: 16 January 2010 22:40 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: naked... etc. etc. I've notified ovh.net and hetzner.de (though the latter is notoriously spam-friendly). A few other people doing likewise couldn't hurt. BTW: It looks like doip.com hasn't been hacked but is just another tinyurl-type service. They'll shut off this redirect pretty quickly, I'd wager, so it's most important to nuke the mother ship site at hetzner.de Mark Roberts wrote: http://doiop.com/pornsexsex I.P. address is 87.98.250.164 Host is ovh.net Abuse address is ab...@ovh.net The site in question has been hacked and redirects to another web site: http://fasttube.info ...which redirects to http://cybertube.info I.P. address 88.198.7.58 Hosted by hetzner.de Abuse address ab...@hetzner.de Doug can track the IP address from which the email originated... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO: Questioning Eyes
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10516750size=lg K7D and DA*50-135 Very nice. Her eyes remind me of Juliette Binoche. I think the balance could be improved by cutting the guy's head in half. As it stands it is too dominant. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO: Honeymoon Pics
From the subject I thought we were in for more spam! The Coffee Shop Portraits: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10516732size=lg K7D, ISO 1250, DA* 50-135, f5, 1/30, 135mm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT: I REALLY hate squirrels
Just spent 2 hours in the dark because a squirrel got the wrong way on the transformer out on the power pole. Tripped a main breaker 4 blocks away and knocked out power for 7 blocks. Hope the little guy is okay. Sounds like he turned himself into Britney Spears' breakfast. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Not a vintage year
Thanks -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Boris Liberman Sent: 17 January 2010 08:39 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Not a vintage year I don't know exactly what a vintage year means for you, Bob, but I surely liked the photographs that you presented. Boris On 12/29/2009 11:16 PM, Bob W wrote: for my photography - too many other things have distracted me and I haven't been able to make time for photography. On top of that, my M8 spent a lot of time in Germany having the beer washed out, and some imbecile superglued the OK button on my E-1. Nevertheless, here is the pick of the year for me: http://www.web-options.com/2009/ Probably a bit early to post, but if I take any masterpieces over the next couple of days I'll amend it. Bob Despair young and never look back --- Samuel Becket -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A word about cats, was OT: I REALLY hate squirrels
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 7:50 AM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: While cats may not be stupid (though this is pretty debatable I don't think they are especially smart), I don't know about that. Our three have done a pretty good job of training us.:-) Dave William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: I REALLY hate squirrels
On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 11:04 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: paul stenquist My squirrels, both red and black, don't seem to like tomatoes. The chipmunks do however. I eventually covered the tomatoes with bird netting. That did the trick. Paul We can have from 6-10 black and or grey squirrels in our yard at any given. Liz feeds them. They don't seem to bother our tomatoes at all. These are just plain ol' bushy tail gray tree rats. I think I'm the only person on my street who doesn't have two outdoor cats, but they're all too well fed. They don't even bother trying to catch the squirrels. We have three cats, one of which is an outdoor cat, Norman. She will go after the birds, mice, moles etc, but just sits there and watches the squirrels. I have pictures of her and a squirrel 3-5 feet away, just looking at each other. On occasion she will make a feeble attempt to chase one, but not very fast or very long. She's eleven which could have some bearing.?? Just remember, there is no such thing as a squirrel proof bird feeder. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I REALLY hate squirrels
On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 8:07 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: Eventually, they form little squirrel gangs, and they hang around your car waiting for you to come out so that they can curse and swear at you and throw acorns at your head in an attempt to ransom more food from you. William Robb Were we are, they send in the leader to sit by my side door and beg. Quite comical at times. Some times he sits so close i fear he/she will bolt inside the house, so we open the door a small amount and toss out a few nuts. Once he spreads the word its safe to leave the house with their shopping list of peanuts, sunflower seeds and such. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Honeymoon Pics
Nice portrait shot, clean and sharp Dave On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 4:47 PM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: The Coffee Shop Portraits: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10516732size=lg K7D, ISO 1250, DA* 50-135, f5, 1/30, 135mm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Honeymoon Pics
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 7:54 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: From the subject I thought we were in for more spam! The bacon spam eggs spam, does not have much spam in it. Dave The Coffee Shop Portraits: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10516732size=lg K7D, ISO 1250, DA* 50-135, f5, 1/30, 135mm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Questioning Eyes
On Jan 17, 2010, at 12:52 AM, Bruce Dayton wrote: I like the eyes, but would like to see just a tad more of her face. Yes, I'm not at all sure about this one. Was hoping for something unique, but the guy's back really dominates the frame. A bit of an experiment here. Paul -- Best regards, Bruce Saturday, January 16, 2010, 7:26:13 PM, you wrote: ps http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10516750size=lg ps K7D and DA*50-135 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Questioning Eyes
On Jan 17, 2010, at 7:53 AM, Bob W wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10516750size=lg K7D and DA*50-135 Very nice. Her eyes remind me of Juliette Binoche. I think the balance could be improved by cutting the guy's head in half. As it stands it is too dominant. Thanks. Good idea. I'm going to look at a different crop. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Honeymoon Pics
On Jan 17, 2010, at 12:47 AM, Bruce Dayton wrote: A well captured moment with a story to tell. Nicely done, Paul. Thanks Bruce. She was intently studying the photos, as was her male tablemate. When leaving I walked by her table and saw what she was looking at. They were some nice BW prints of a pretty, tropical location. Thus, honeymoon prints. -- Bruce Saturday, January 16, 2010, 1:47:41 PM, you wrote: PNS The Coffee Shop Portraits: PNS http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10516732size=lg PNS K7D, ISO 1250, DA* 50-135, f5, 1/30, 135mm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: naked... etc. etc.
Is there ~anything~ the Government won't tax? regards, Anthony Of what use is lens and light to those who lack in mind and sight (Anon) 2010/1/17 Bob W p...@web-options.com: ...must have been looking for the Poontax Discuss Mailing List. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A word about cats, was OT: I REALLY hate squirrels
2010/1/17 David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com: On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 7:50 AM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: While cats may not be stupid (though this is pretty debatable I don't think they are especially smart), I don't know about that. Our three have done a pretty good job of training us.:-) Most cat owners are pussies. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: I REALLY hate squirrels
This thread needs a photo: http://lh5.ggpht.com/_i6tc3TCyOTA/SOQ8uI6o8iI/BlQ/TpSL1MBM7Gg/s800/IMGP9819-small.jpg I have a love/hate relationship with squirrels. They're so damn cute...but the f...@%#ers pissed, shat and ate my patio furniture. That's just wrong... --M. PS: I saw an albino squirrel a few weeks ago: http://tinyurl.com/ylm6wxg -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- http://www.EnticingTheLight.com -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 2010/1/16 John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com: Just spent 2 hours in the dark because a squirrel got the wrong way on the transformer out on the power pole. Tripped a main breaker 4 blocks away and knocked out power for 7 blocks. I really hate squirrels. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT: I REALLY hate squirrels
This thread needs a photo: http://lh5.ggpht.com/_i6tc3TCyOTA/SOQ8uI6o8iI/BlQ/TpSL 1MBM7Gg/s800/IMGP9819-small.jpg That's one way to scratch your nuts, I suppose. I have a love/hate relationship with squirrels. They're so damn cute...but the f...@%#ers pissed, shat and ate my patio furniture. That's just wrong... How do you know that wasn't your neighbours? --M. PS: I saw an albino squirrel a few weeks ago: http://tinyurl.com/ylm6wxg That's an Arctic Squirrel(Sciurus Lagopus). They're being driven south by global warming. They follow herds of caribou because they provide the warmest long-term storage space for the taiga nuts the squirrels crave. Of course, getting their nuts in and out of the storage space is a messy business, and the moose don't like it, which is why the squirrels have evolved their white fur - to sneak up on the unwary caribou from behind. The downside is that the white fur provides ample of evidence to the caribou of a hindmost infiltration, so whenever they see a dung-coloured squirrel the whole herd chases it for revenge. Look closely at the front of any footage of stampeding caribou and you'll see a skid-marked squirrel running like f_ck. Cheers, David AttenBob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
back- mostly in lurking mode, intermitent web access
First, thanks for the wishes and tips, back when I unsubscribed for my trip to MouseWorld - I seriously misjudged my free time, and ended up with far less than I expected... no parties :-( On the bright side, despite a chilly start and a series of inspired moves by Delta Air and the worst hotel at International Drive, my yells were heard only in Rockin' Roller Coaster (seems faster yet, and maybe it is since my bag was lighter than usual and still had to grasp it hard), Tower of Terror (four falls, better rythm, forget about using heavy cameras - you'll get hurt) and other select rides... did rise my voice at the hotel some, but that is what one gets for staying out of Disney/ Universal resorts. Thanks to Pat, I did return home with an outstanding FAJ 80~320 copy, co-responsible for some wildlife shots - I did manage to click the DS over a thousand times, looks like I'll keep 20 or so :-) Thanks to Larry, the DS should get a much needed clean-up one of these days. Buying eneloops remained on the list, tho... maybe next time, hopefully soon. Same for diving, driving down the Keys and some other things. That's ok - one should always keep the to-do list populated. Being without a proper internet access, I tried to keep away from PDML - away being reading the archives two or three days each week - but this IS addictive... so I'm back, digest mode for a while... pls don't expect fast answers. I'm also trying to figure out what to subscribe for PUG and The Book... and trying to keep the photos organized. Should have bought that d...@mn3d hard drive... Came home to face some new challenges - I never had so little concentration to computer issues since I started fixing my friends' machines some 15 years ago, so looks like they're going out of my life. Being 48, the number of ops is not that great, too. Most of this town's Disney Advisors is under 35... I knew there was a bet before my trip that I'd need a medic in the US - only couldn't place my money on it, pity. Going into the Model Studio is pointless, since there is always a newbie group taking pics for free to enter the market... as I hear from the veterans of today, which I remember as newbies from ten years ago... and yes, I told them at the time they would understand better what was the problem of taking pics for free for a start... we'll see. I know for sure I'm not stopping photography anytime soon. I'm back :-D Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://www.techmit.com.br/luizfelipe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I REALLY hate squirrels
On 1/16/10, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: I think up Bran's way they had a few big cats move into the suburbs a few years ago. Never did hear how that worked out. That's because there's no one left to talk about it. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: I REALLY hate squirrels
David J Brooks wrote: [...] We have three cats, one of which is an outdoor cat, Norman. She will go after the birds, mice, moles etc, but just sits there and watches the squirrels. I have pictures of her and a squirrel 3-5 feet away, just looking at each other. On occasion she will make a feeble attempt to chase one, but not very fast or very long. She's eleven which could have some bearing.?? Just remember, there is no such thing as a squirrel proof bird feeder. Dave Two things. Eleven is plenty old enough to have learned a lot of life's lessons, especially about squirrels, one of which is 'There is no end point in chasing a squirrel. It's more like So, what happens THEN? And while cats are amazingly agile and fast, they are NOT squirrels, which, being smaller, etc., will always have the edge in speed and agility... More like Supera Rodentii. g keith -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: I REALLY hate squirrels
This is about Norman's speed with squirrels. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9132082 They usually get a bit closer but not always. Dave On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: This thread needs a photo: http://lh5.ggpht.com/_i6tc3TCyOTA/SOQ8uI6o8iI/BlQ/TpSL1MBM7Gg/s800/IMGP9819-small.jpg I have a love/hate relationship with squirrels. They're so damn cute...but the f...@%#ers pissed, shat and ate my patio furniture. That's just wrong... --M. PS: I saw an albino squirrel a few weeks ago: http://tinyurl.com/ylm6wxg -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- http://www.EnticingTheLight.com -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 2010/1/16 John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com: Just spent 2 hours in the dark because a squirrel got the wrong way on the transformer out on the power pole. Tripped a main breaker 4 blocks away and knocked out power for 7 blocks. I really hate squirrels. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: I REALLY hate squirrels
David J Brooks wrote: This is about Norman's speed with squirrels. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9132082 They usually get a bit closer but not always. Dave Love that! lol! ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Oh well, I don't think the squirrels will have a care in the long run... they'll probably be quite happy when the ignorant and greedy finally succeed in curing the planet of homo sapiens... well deserved for some IMVHO... but it saddens me greatly that my son may just live to see sh*t really hit the fan... assuming that everyone of you knows and hopefully cares about co2: those who do care please have a look at www.virtualwater.org thank you ecke 2010/1/17 John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com: From: Keith Whaley John Sessoms wrote: Just spent 2 hours in the dark because a squirrel got the wrong way on the transformer out on the power pole. Tripped a main breaker 4 blocks away and knocked out power for 7 blocks. I really hate squirrels. HEY! That poor squirrel got HIS lights put out permanently! Have some compassion. He paid for his carelessness! keith whaley He didn't pay enough! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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sorry i meant www.virtual-water.org 2010/1/17 eckinator eckina...@gmail.com: Oh well, I don't think the squirrels will have a care in the long run... they'll probably be quite happy when the ignorant and greedy finally succeed in curing the planet of homo sapiens... well deserved for some IMVHO... but it saddens me greatly that my son may just live to see sh*t really hit the fan... assuming that everyone of you knows and hopefully cares about co2: those who do care please have a look at www.virtualwater.org thank you ecke 2010/1/17 John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com: From: Keith Whaley John Sessoms wrote: Just spent 2 hours in the dark because a squirrel got the wrong way on the transformer out on the power pole. Tripped a main breaker 4 blocks away and knocked out power for 7 blocks. I really hate squirrels. HEY! That poor squirrel got HIS lights put out permanently! Have some compassion. He paid for his carelessness! keith whaley He didn't pay enough! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jan 17, 2010, at 1:39 PM, eckinator wrote: Oh well, I don't think the squirrels will have a care in the long run... they'll probably be quite happy when the ignorant and greedy finally succeed in curing the planet of homo sapiens... well deserved for some IMVHO... but it saddens me greatly that my son may just live to see sh*t really hit the fan... assuming that everyone of you knows and hopefully cares about co2: those who do care please have a look at www.virtualwater.org thank you ecke How many generations in history have bemoaned the fate of the next allegedly unfortunate generation? Countless numbers to be sure. Yet we go on, and will undoubtedly continue to do so. Sometimes up, sometimes down, but learning and persevering. Doomsday scenarios have become a cliche. Paul 2010/1/17 John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com: From: Keith Whaley John Sessoms wrote: Just spent 2 hours in the dark because a squirrel got the wrong way on the transformer out on the power pole. Tripped a main breaker 4 blocks away and knocked out power for 7 blocks. I really hate squirrels. HEY! That poor squirrel got HIS lights put out permanently! Have some compassion. He paid for his carelessness! keith whaley He didn't pay enough! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2010/1/17 paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net: How many generations in history have bemoaned the fate of the next allegedly unfortunate generation? Countless numbers to be sure. Yet we go on, and will undoubtedly continue to do so. Sometimes up, sometimes down, but learning and persevering. Doomsday scenarios have become a cliche. sure and i won't go on, let alone steal the thread but there have been extinction level events in the past and there will be again. even the mildest results of climate modeling are more than I would wish on anyone. and looking at the manner many societies have in dealing with their dissenters let alone with nations fallen from their grace, I think it is fair to says humanity as a whole isn't a fast learner. well, like I said, please go on, this thread is about squirrels and I respect that sorry cheers ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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In a message dated 1/17/2010 10:55:42 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, eckina...@gmail.com writes: I think it is fair to says humanity as a whole isn't a fast learner. = Mark! Totally agree with you ecke, for the first time in history a doomsday scenario is real. Maybe that's why so many are in denial. The world is not sustainable. Marnie aka Doe :-) - We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jan 17, 2010, at 2:09 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 1/17/2010 10:55:42 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, eckina...@gmail.com writes: I think it is fair to says humanity as a whole isn't a fast learner. = Mark! Totally agree with you ecke, for the first time in history a doomsday scenario is real. Real? It's not real until it happens. But I'm ready, I have my millennium shelter fully stocked. Oh wait, that was the last doomsday scenario. That was real as well. Paul Maybe that's why so many are in denial. The world is not sustainable. Marnie aka Doe :-) - We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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PESO: Amused
Another coffee shop portrait from yesterday's visit: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10521648 K7D, DA* 50-135/2.8, ISO 1250, f5 @ /100th 135mm. No crop: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10521648 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: I REALLY hate squirrels
From: steve harley it's the ones who feed the squirrels i'd like to shock some sensibility into Nobody's feeding them. I can stand in my front door and see half a dozen 90 - 100 ft tall black walnut trees. I can see another half dozen out my kitchen windows. I usually have 3 or 4 sprouts to dig up every year from where the squirrels buried walnuts in nooks crannies around the foundation. It's a natural squirrel paradise. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Moved: denial vs doom (was urbanites vs squirrels)
2010/1/17 paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net: Real? It's not real until it happens. But I'm ready, I have my millennium shelter fully stocked. Oh wait, that was the last doomsday scenario. That was real as well. naah the millennium bug was as real as the majority votes for dubya's presidencies. but climate change has begun, it is already an undeniable reality and once it accelerates beyond even the most modest measure of predictability or letting itself be influenced by anything we could do but mostly choose not to. mind you, the German government just declared as safe a permanent repository for low and medium level radioactive nuclear waste and that place will drown by the moment sea levels permanently rise by about 10 feet - now imagine having that in the food chain - but oh sure by then the energy companies who haven't a care in the world and pay next to nothing for repository exploration and use will have learned and will help us to persevere... show me just one example where a blue chip stopped their doings this side of morality and i'll rethink... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Re: PESO: Questioning Eyes
From: paul stenquist On Jan 17, 2010, at 7:53 AM, Bob W wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10516750size=lg K7D and DA*50-135 Very nice. Her eyes remind me of Juliette Binoche. I think the balance could be improved by cutting the guy's head in half. As it stands it is too dominant. Thanks. Good idea. I'm going to look at a different crop. Or get all Vincent Van GoGo on him and leave just the ear. ;-D -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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If he tripped the breaker it's goodbye for the squirrel...
On 1/16/2010 6:59 PM, paul stenquist wrote:
On Jan 16, 2010, at 6:27 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
Just spent 2 hours in the dark because a squirrel got the wrong way on the
transformer out on the power pole. Tripped a main breaker 4 blocks away and
knocked out power for 7 blocks.
Hope the little guy is okay.
Paul
I really hate squirrels.
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RE: OT: I REALLY hate squirrels
this thread is about squirrels and I respect that Mark! -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of eckinator Sent: 17 January 2010 18:55 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT: I REALLY hate squirrels 2010/1/17 paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net: How many generations in history have bemoaned the fate of the next allegedly unfortunate generation? Countless numbers to be sure. Yet we go on, and will undoubtedly continue to do so. Sometimes up, sometimes down, but learning and persevering. Doomsday scenarios have become a cliche. sure and i won't go on, let alone steal the thread but there have been extinction level events in the past and there will be again. even the mildest results of climate modeling are more than I would wish on anyone. and looking at the manner many societies have in dealing with their dissenters let alone with nations fallen from their grace, I think it is fair to says humanity as a whole isn't a fast learner. well, like I said, please go on, this thread is about squirrels and I respect that sorry cheers ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 1/16/2010 7:13 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:
On 17/01/2010, paul stenquistpnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
Hope the little guy is okay.
I expect he's be a little overdone!
Probably extra crispy on the outside...
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Re: OT: I REALLY hate squirrels
On Jan 17, 2010, at 2:40 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: steve harley it's the ones who feed the squirrels i'd like to shock some sensibility into Nobody's feeding them. I can stand in my front door and see half a dozen 90 - 100 ft tall black walnut trees. I can see another half dozen out my kitchen windows. I usually have 3 or 4 sprouts to dig up every year from where the squirrels buried walnuts in nooks crannies around the foundation. It's a natural squirrel paradise. LIkewise. My squirrels live largely on oak tree acorns. Fall is feast time. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Amused
very nice profile, well caught, paul cheers ecke and jacket's rip stop pattern was definitely helpful vs plain color/texture 2010/1/17 paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net: Another coffee shop portrait from yesterday's visit: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10521648 K7D, DA* 50-135/2.8, ISO 1250, f5 @ /100th 135mm. No crop: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10521648 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Moved: denial vs doom (was urbanites vs squirrels)
naah the millennium bug was as real as the majority votes for dubya's presidencies. The millennium bug was real. I was one of the generations of programmers who wrote it. The reason it turned into a damp squib is that I was also one of the people who fixed it, before it blew up. The lesson to be learned from that is that if you do something about an imminent disaster, nobody will believe it was ever going to happen. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Questioning Eyes, Recrop
I cropped this pic in response to Bob's suggestion. It's about half of the frame, so at ISO 1250 it's a bit noisy, but I like a bit of a rough edge in a pic of this type. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10522171 Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Questioning Eyes
From: Bob W Very nice. Her eyes remind me of Juliette Binoche. I think the balance could be improved by cutting the guy's head in half. As it stands it is too dominant. Juliette Binoche advert ... the artiste on the bridge looks to be shooting with a Pentax 67. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBSmTl5NmGQ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: I REALLY hate squirrels
How about this one, squirrel beneath hawk.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20redtailhawkii.html
On 1/17/2010 11:18 AM, Miserere wrote:
This thread needs a photo:
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_i6tc3TCyOTA/SOQ8uI6o8iI/BlQ/TpSL1MBM7Gg/s800/IMGP9819-small.jpg
I have a love/hate relationship with squirrels. They're so damn
cute...but the f...@%#ers pissed, shat and ate my patio furniture. That's
just wrong...
--M.
PS: I saw an albino squirrel a few weeks ago: http://tinyurl.com/ylm6wxg
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Re: PESO: Amused
Thanks ecke. I tried to emphasize the ruggedness of his complexion here with a bit of sharpening and plenty of contrast. I agree that the jacket pattern was a plus. Paul On Jan 17, 2010, at 2:48 PM, eckinator wrote: very nice profile, well caught, paul cheers ecke and jacket's rip stop pattern was definitely helpful vs plain color/texture 2010/1/17 paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net: Another coffee shop portrait from yesterday's visit: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10521648 K7D, DA* 50-135/2.8, ISO 1250, f5 @ /100th 135mm. No crop: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10521648 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Questioning Eyes, Recrop
That is an improvement - my comment was I wanted more of her face, but getting rid of some of him has helped in the same way. -- Best regards, Bruce Sunday, January 17, 2010, 11:51:05 AM, you wrote: ps I cropped this pic in response to Bob's suggestion. It's about ps half of the frame, so at ISO 1250 it's a bit noisy, but I like a ps bit of a rough edge in a pic of this type. ps http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10522171 ps Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Moved: denial vs doom (was urbanites vs squirrels)
On Jan 17, 2010, at 2:43 PM, eckinator wrote: 2010/1/17 paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net: Real? It's not real until it happens. But I'm ready, I have my millennium shelter fully stocked. Oh wait, that was the last doomsday scenario. That was real as well. naah the millennium bug was as real as the majority votes for dubya's presidencies. but climate change has begun, it is already an undeniable reality and once it accelerates beyond even the most modest measure of predictability or letting itself be influenced by anything we could do but mostly choose not to. mind you, Of course climate change is real. It's been changing since the earth was formed. And our presence undoubtedly affects the rate of change. But a doomsday is highly unlikely. We adjust. We've already begun to adjust and will continue to do so. Paul the German government just declared as safe a permanent repository for low and medium level radioactive nuclear waste and that place will drown by the moment sea levels permanently rise by about 10 feet - now imagine having that in the food chain - but oh sure by then the energy companies who haven't a care in the world and pay next to nothing for repository exploration and use will have learned and will help us to persevere... show me just one example where a blue chip stopped their doings this side of morality and i'll rethink... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Moved: denial vs doom (was urbanites vs squirrels)
On Jan 17, 2010, at 2:44 PM, Bob W wrote: naah the millennium bug was as real as the majority votes for dubya's presidencies. The millennium bug was real. I was one of the generations of programmers who wrote it. The reason it turned into a damp squib is that I was also one of the people who fixed it, before it blew up. The lesson to be learned from that is that if you do something about an imminent disaster, nobody will believe it was ever going to happen. And that doesn't really matter. Of course the countries that did nothing about the millennium bug, like India, survived quite handily along with those who did extensive reprogramming and preparation. But all efforts to minimize potential problems re always a plus. As usual, the human race persevered and continued on. I expect we'll manage to do that again. Paul Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - how to guarantee you luggage won't be lost
On 1/16/2010 5:37 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:
On 17/01/2010, Christianchrist...@skofteland.net wrote:
I originally posted the video with a very detailed account of how to travel
with guns to protect your other valuables like electronics and camera gear.
The guy in the video never mentioned Australia but did mention that he
traveled outside the US with the same techniques. The TSA is not allowed
to, BY LAW, open luggage that has been locked and has the firearms
stickers/documentation all over it. It is up to the check-in counter to
verify what's in the luggage before the passenger locks it. It seems like a
great idea especially when you consider that a flare gun is classified as a
firearm.
Here you need to apply and purchase a permit and also have a safe for
storage etc, I personally wouldn't try to bring any kind of firearm
into Oz.
http://www.police.nsw.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0019/133228/fact_sheet_starting_pistol_permit.pdf
Didn't Australia used to be a free country?
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Re: Moved: denial vs doom (was urbanites vs squirrels)
2010/1/17 Bob W p...@web-options.com: The millennium bug was real. I was one of the generations of programmers who wrote it. The reason it turned into a damp squib is that I was also one of the people who fixed it, before it blew up. The lesson to be learned from that is that if you do something about an imminent disaster, nobody will believe it was ever going to happen. yes and no Bob - being in the industry then and now myself, I said what I said based on my knowledge of what was being done behind the scenes and your work is much appreciated by those who know to value it. Hence, a great thank you goes out to you, Bob. In fact I had so much confidence in what you and your peers did that I felt comfortable at all times. In my perception Y2K was totally blown out of proportion by the media, period. This thing is, in my perception, different. I know and can't hide I am very emotional about this, so my perception my be blurred and I acknowledge that. Still, even if it was something that ultimately went away because people realized the import of it risking to happen, I'd rather care now than look back later and wonder why I didn't. Plus, there can never be anything wrong with being less wasteful and more careful with the world we live in, so there is nothing to be lost except maybe some conviences that the other 80% or so of the world's population will have to wait long to get their hands on, if even ever... cheers ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Moved: denial vs doom (was urbanites vs squirrels)
From: Bob W naah the millennium bug was as real as the majority votes for dubya's presidencies. The millennium bug was real. I was one of the generations of programmers who wrote it. The reason it turned into a damp squib is that I was also one of the people who fixed it, before it blew up. The lesson to be learned from that is that if you do something about an imminent disaster, nobody will believe it was ever going to happen. Bob There was a lot of unnecessary doom and gloom about it; elevators falling and airplanes crashing hyped as possible fallout. My take was it was going to result in a lot of screwed up utility credit card bills ... maybe some airline reservations falling out of the sky, but no actual airliners. Life safety critical applications just didn't get written in COBOL and its successors. It only resulted in a FEW screwed up utility bills that I'm aware of - because it did mostly get fixed in time. And what little didn't get fixed beforehand was soon enough fixed after. I also noted at the time, although no one cared what I thought, that any financial institution writing conventional 30 year mortgages was aware of the problem in 1970 ... 1971 at the latest. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Questioning Eyes, Recrop
yes and no - to me the recrop totally changes the meaning of the image - in the uncropped, the angle of his head as judged from his ears has him potentially staring at the ponytailed blonde in the background so the eyes potentially notice his stare and lack of attention - oh yeah, 5 bucks chauvinist penalty for my assumption accepted. uncropped is sort of a you have to assume something shot whereas cropped is just her, her gorgeous eyes and many questions about him and the dynamic between them. so, having said that, I change my answer to yes. cheers ecke 2010/1/17 Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com: That is an improvement - my comment was I wanted more of her face, but getting rid of some of him has helped in the same way. -- Best regards, Bruce Sunday, January 17, 2010, 11:51:05 AM, you wrote: ps I cropped this pic in response to Bob's suggestion. It's about ps half of the frame, so at ISO 1250 it's a bit noisy, but I like a ps bit of a rough edge in a pic of this type. ps http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10522171 ps Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Re: Moved: denial vs doom (was urbanites vs squirrels)
On 1/17/2010 2:44 PM, Bob W wrote:
naah the millennium bug was as real as the majority votes for
dubya's presidencies.
The millennium bug was real. I was one of the generations of programmers who
wrote it. The reason it turned into a damp squib is that I was also one of
the people who fixed it, before it blew up.
The lesson to be learned from that is that if you do something about an
imminent disaster, nobody will believe it was ever going to happen.
Bob
I'll second that. Though the core system I worked with never used two
character years to start with. The systems surrounding it however
needed manor work at times.
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RE: PESO: Questioning Eyes, Recrop
I cropped this pic in response to Bob's suggestion. It's about half of the frame, so at ISO 1250 it's a bit noisy, but I like a bit of a rough edge in a pic of this type. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10522171 I think that works better. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT: I REALLY hate squirrels
How about this one, squirrel beneath hawk. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20redtailhawkii.html Awesome, dude. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Moved: denial vs doom (was urbanites vs squirrels)
On 1/17/2010 3:24 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
From: Bob W
naah the millennium bug was as real as the majority votes for
dubya's presidencies.
The millennium bug was real. I was one of the generations of
programmers who
wrote it. The reason it turned into a damp squib is that I was also
one of
the people who fixed it, before it blew up.
The lesson to be learned from that is that if you do something about an
imminent disaster, nobody will believe it was ever going to happen.
Bob
There was a lot of unnecessary doom and gloom about it; elevators
falling and airplanes crashing hyped as possible fallout.
My take was it was going to result in a lot of screwed up utility
credit card bills ... maybe some airline reservations falling out of
the sky, but no actual airliners.
Life safety critical applications just didn't get written in COBOL and
its successors.
It only resulted in a FEW screwed up utility bills that I'm aware of -
because it did mostly get fixed in time. And what little didn't get
fixed beforehand was soon enough fixed after.
I also noted at the time, although no one cared what I thought, that
any financial institution writing conventional 30 year mortgages was
aware of the problem in 1970 ... 1971 at the latest.
The 2036 and 2058 bugs are more likely to have well mid air collisions,
but I expect to be dead or immortal by then.
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Re: Moved: denial vs doom (was urbanites vs squirrels)
On 1/17/2010 4:12 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
On 1/17/2010 3:24 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
From: Bob W
naah the millennium bug was as real as the majority votes for
dubya's presidencies.
The millennium bug was real. I was one of the generations of
programmers who
wrote it. The reason it turned into a damp squib is that I was also
one of
the people who fixed it, before it blew up.
The lesson to be learned from that is that if you do something about an
imminent disaster, nobody will believe it was ever going to happen.
Bob
There was a lot of unnecessary doom and gloom about it; elevators
falling and airplanes crashing hyped as possible fallout.
My take was it was going to result in a lot of screwed up utility
credit card bills ... maybe some airline reservations falling out of
the sky, but no actual airliners.
Life safety critical applications just didn't get written in COBOL
and its successors.
It only resulted in a FEW screwed up utility bills that I'm aware of
- because it did mostly get fixed in time. And what little didn't get
fixed beforehand was soon enough fixed after.
I also noted at the time, although no one cared what I thought, that
any financial institution writing conventional 30 year mortgages was
aware of the problem in 1970 ... 1971 at the latest.
The 2036 and 2058 bugs are more likely to have well mid air
collisions, but I expect to be dead or immortal by then.
That should be 2038 not 58, but then I've been taking typing lessons
from Brooksey.
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Re: Moved: denial vs doom (was urbanites vs squirrels)
2010/1/17 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com: That should be 2038 not 58, but then I've been taking typing lessons from Brooksey. remember, only a dead bug is a good bug - are these too real for me to have heard of? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PDML Book update after two weeks
Things are going almost too well; I fear for hidden disaster to arise at any moment. We have had 75 submissions from 29 photographers, 23 of whom have made themselves eligible for the Chacago exhibit. Not only are we on track in terms of the quantity of material received, we're ahead of last year with respect to *quality*, in my humble opinion. There's some really good stuff coming in. Doug, Bill and Scott have been sifting through and evaluating the photos that have come in. Christine Aguila is working with the gallery curator in Chicago on promoting the exhibit and, thanks to some help from Rick Womer, I've been on the phone with the president CEO of the CureSearch (the charity the book supports) working on some cross-promotion with them. The URL is http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/pdmlbook.php Keep up the great work. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Moved: denial vs doom (was urbanites vs squirrels)
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 3:10 PM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: In my perception Y2K was totally blown out of proportion by the media, period. ecke The media primarily exists to blow things out of proportion. It generates ratings which generate ad dollars. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: naked... etc. etc.
Of course, I had to put in a spam-filter exception for PDML about 15 minutes after joining it. All this dubious gear for sale (priced in pesos even), and people making counterclaims about how big theirs is. -T -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Parkdale Arms
just great - mood lends itself to making up the story for the image cheers ecke 2010/1/14 frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com: Why do they call all the Rooms to Rent places around here Arms? Whatever, here's Parkdale Arms. Another sign (not visible in this picture) says absolutely no guests after 11:30. Right... http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/01/parkview-arms.html I know it's noisy, but it's in a noisy neighbourhood. Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - 3 birds, a frog and a bat
What Cotty said Cheers Ecke 2010/1/16 Cotty cotty...@mac.com: On 14/1/10, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed: Here's a few shots of the local wildlife around my in-laws' house. The bat (a gray-headed flying fox) is from the Sydney Royal Botanic Gardens. There are thousands of them roosting there during the day. Even though we had more sun in Sydney, when I went to the botanic gardens it was overcast... of course. http://birdofthemoment.blogspot.com/ Superb gallery Christian - all fabulous. Very envious, I would love to visit Australia. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PDML Book update after two weeks
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: we're ahead of last year with respect to *quality*, in my humble opinion. There's some really good stuff coming in. Doug, Bill and Scott have been sifting through and evaluating the photos that have come in. I am simultaneously totally in grateful awe that you guys do this, and green with envy that you get to sort through all the juicy pix and juggle sequence options and so on. Can't wait to see it. -T -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Amused
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 11:30 AM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Another coffee shop portrait from yesterday's visit: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10521648 Wow, nice, absorbing. Thanks -T K7D, DA* 50-135/2.8, ISO 1250, f5 @ /100th 135mm. No crop: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10521648 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Amused
very nice. On Jan 17, 2010, at 11:30 AM, paul stenquist wrote: Another coffee shop portrait from yesterday's visit: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10521648 K7D, DA* 50-135/2.8, ISO 1250, f5 @ /100th 135mm. No crop: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10521648 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Moved: denial vs doom (was urbanites vs squirrels)
On 1/17/2010 4:12 PM, eckinator wrote:
2010/1/17 P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com:
That should be 2038 not 58, but then I've been taking typing lessons from
Brooksey.
remember, only a dead bug is a good bug - are these too real for me to
have heard of?
Thirty two bit overflow on dates stored as seconds from 1900 (signed),
and 1970 (unsighed) in UNIX and DOS/Windows I expect that they'll be
fixed when dates are stored in 64 bit integers. Properly done the fix
should just fall out of the code on a recompile. But if something isn't
recompiled or some really clever programmers took advantage of a side
effect in a standard library... There could be other critical failures.
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Re: PESO - You've Got Mail!
positively sweet - reminds me of our local red light district, the reeperbahn http://www.n-tv.de/img/41/415389/O_680_680_680_hamburg-Ritze.jpg a local legend, erwin ross, has provided pretty much all pin-up paintings there -the picture is of him in front of his most famous work, the door of the Ritze, a famous bar with basement boxing where quite some boxing legends of the olden days started their careers... also, one the more famous pimps of the city committed suicide in that basement a few years ago - usual milieu thrill but the reeperbahn always feels a bit special cheers ecke 2010/1/14 frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com: She's a couple of blocks from my house so I pass by it often, but last night the light from the streetlights was hitting her in a way that made me decide to take a picture: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/01/youve-got-mail.html Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Moved: denial vs doom (was urbanites vs squirrels)
2010/1/17 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com: Thirty two bit overflow on dates stored as seconds from 1900 (signed), and 1970 (unsighed) in UNIX and DOS/Windows I expect that they'll be fixed when dates are stored in 64 bit integers. Properly done the fix should just fall out of the code on a recompile. But if something isn't recompiled or some really clever programmers took advantage of a side effect in a standard library... There could be other critical failures. thank you, I have never heard of these and google yielded nothing either at first glance so I figured I'd ask in case it was an ironic comment. 2038 is far away so I trust Bob to work his magic again. cheers ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Wet weather photography without DA* lenses
On my drive home from the dojo I noticed how potentially photogenic the railroad tracks through the redwoods were in the rain. I suspect that there is a wealth of photographic opportunity in the state park that is nearly across the street from my house. However, I don't have any DA* or WR lenses. I've heard that with primes, the weather isn't nearly the problem that it is with zooms, but that could have just been wishful thinking. How serious is the risk to lens and/or K20 if I mount a prime and go traipsing through the redwoods in moderate rain? Would it help to take a rubber band and put it around the base of the lens to try and make an external seal? My guess is that my DA40 might be the safest lens to use because it has less area to collect water, and also it doesn't have an aperture ring. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PDML Book update after two weeks
Mark, is there a use only if considered up to par option? I am kind of unsure about my faves :[ cheers ecke 2010/1/17 Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com: Things are going almost too well; I fear for hidden disaster to arise at any moment. We have had 75 submissions from 29 photographers, 23 of whom have made themselves eligible for the Chacago exhibit. Not only are we on track in terms of the quantity of material received, we're ahead of last year with respect to *quality*, in my humble opinion. There's some really good stuff coming in. Doug, Bill and Scott have been sifting through and evaluating the photos that have come in. Christine Aguila is working with the gallery curator in Chicago on promoting the exhibit and, thanks to some help from Rick Womer, I've been on the phone with the president CEO of the CureSearch (the charity the book supports) working on some cross-promotion with them. The URL is http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/pdmlbook.php Keep up the great work. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Wet weather photography without DA* lenses
get a hotshoe umbrella and use that if it isn't too windy, can't really say anything about the rest cheers ecke 2010/1/17 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com: On my drive home from the dojo I noticed how potentially photogenic the railroad tracks through the redwoods were in the rain. I suspect that there is a wealth of photographic opportunity in the state park that is nearly across the street from my house. However, I don't have any DA* or WR lenses. I've heard that with primes, the weather isn't nearly the problem that it is with zooms, but that could have just been wishful thinking. How serious is the risk to lens and/or K20 if I mount a prime and go traipsing through the redwoods in moderate rain? Would it help to take a rubber band and put it around the base of the lens to try and make an external seal? My guess is that my DA40 might be the safest lens to use because it has less area to collect water, and also it doesn't have an aperture ring. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PDML Book update after two weeks (Mark)
Mark, Does the $120 exhibit fee include the return shipping cost of a mounted/matted/framed print? Seems too small an amount to expect such. Perhaps, as I've seen done, the prints will be assembled in a temporary state for the exhibit, only to be disassembled and the print removed and returned to the photographer upon the exhibit's closing. When you have time. Thanks, Jack --- On Sun, 1/17/10, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: From: Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com Subject: PDML Book update after two weeks To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Sunday, January 17, 2010, 1:12 PM Things are going almost too well; I fear for hidden disaster to arise at any moment. We have had 75 submissions from 29 photographers, 23 of whom have made themselves eligible for the Chacago exhibit. Not only are we on track in terms of the quantity of material received, we're ahead of last year with respect to *quality*, in my humble opinion. There's some really good stuff coming in. Doug, Bill and Scott have been sifting through and evaluating the photos that have come in. Christine Aguila is working with the gallery curator in Chicago on promoting the exhibit and, thanks to some help from Rick Womer, I've been on the phone with the president CEO of the CureSearch (the charity the book supports) working on some cross-promotion with them. The URL is http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/pdmlbook.php Keep up the great work. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Moved: denial vs doom (was urbanites vs squirrels)
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 08:43:53PM +0100, eckinator scripsit: 2010/1/17 paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net: Real? It's not real until it happens. But I'm ready, I have my millennium shelter fully stocked. Oh wait, that was the last doomsday scenario. That was real as well. naah the millennium bug was as real as the majority votes for dubya's presidencies. The Millenium bug -- a whole bunch of code that assumed it wouldn't be running in 2000 -- was real; it just got (mostly) fixed in time. There were a number -- but not a really big number -- of things like embedded controllers that really did start acting weird, but the majority of systems were patched or replaced in time. Look at the 2010 bug they just had in Germany when someone made a similar mistake abut date handling and millions of people suddenly stopped having working bank cards. So far as the whole anthropogenic climate change thing goes, one might want to take a photographic perspective on the question and look at the old and new shots of Glacier National Park. http://www.livescience.com/php/multimedia/imagegallery/igviewer.php?imgid=626gid=42index=0 -- Graydon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Questioning Eyes, Recrop
On Jan 17, 2010, at 11:51 AM, paul stenquist wrote: I cropped this pic in response to Bob's suggestion. It's about half of the frame, so at ISO 1250 it's a bit noisy, but I like a bit of a rough edge in a pic of this type. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10522171 I like the crop better. There are processing filters that'll imitate the grain of film. Bibble has one. I wonder if such a filter would reduce the harshness of the noise. But, it's a great shot, and one that probably would have been nearly impossible to get not too many years ago. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Wet weather photography without DA* lenses
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: However, I don't have any DA* or WR lenses. I've heard that with primes, the weather isn't nearly the problem that it is with zooms, but that could have just been wishful thinking. On New Years' day I went out for a walk in the rain with the K20/DA40 combo and it came out just fine: http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2010/01/09/Waterproof-Camera -T -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Questioning Eyes, Recrop
Yeah, much better. I don't wish to see any more of her face, but prefer to imagine her total expression and mood. Like the mystery aspect. Jack --- On Sun, 1/17/10, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: From: paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Subject: PESO: Questioning Eyes, Recrop To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Sunday, January 17, 2010, 11:51 AM I cropped this pic in response to Bob's suggestion. It's about half of the frame, so at ISO 1250 it's a bit noisy, but I like a bit of a rough edge in a pic of this type. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10522171 Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Moved: denial vs doom (was urbanites vs squirrels)
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 03:00:39PM -0500, paul stenquist scripsit: Of course climate change is real. It's been changing since the earth was formed. And our presence undoubtedly affects the rate of change. But a doomsday is highly unlikely. We adjust. We've already begun to adjust and will continue to do so. Some of the historical -- for geological values of historical -- conditions Earth's climate has had we couldn't adjust to. Neither the end-Permian extinction conditions (anoxic oceans, ~15% atmospheric oxygen, 70 C temperatures, no ozone due to volcanic H2S release...) nor the Neoproterozoic global snowball conditions would be survivable. Even Oligocene climate would present truly drastic challenges; hard to feed people with most of the current grain growing areas turned into deserts. So while I think we're certainly going to adjust I don't think it's even close to a given that we're going to adjust enough, soon enough. Since pretty much all of the possible angles of adjustment are good things on their own, this is an area where I'm quite happy with the risk of going a little overboard in preference to the risk of doing too little. -- Graydon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PDML Book update after two weeks
I must have missed something. How does one become eligible for the Chicago Exhibit? On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: Things are going almost too well; I fear for hidden disaster to arise at any moment. We have had 75 submissions from 29 photographers, 23 of whom have made themselves eligible for the Ch Danacago exhibit. Not only are we on track in terms of the quantity of material received, we're ahead of last year with respect to *quality*, in my humble opinion. There's some really good stuff coming in. Doug, Bill and Scott have been sifting through and evaluating the photos that have come in. Christine Aguila is working with the gallery curator in Chicago on promoting the exhibit and, thanks to some help from Rick Womer, I've been on the phone with the president CEO of the CureSearch (the charity the book supports) working on some cross-promotion with them. The URL is http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/pdmlbook.php Keep up the great work. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Smoke cross sections
A few years ago, a friend took a green laser, shined it through a cylindrical lens to spread the beam in one axis (like a laser level) and passed that beam through smoke from his smoke machine. The effects looked amazing, but were well beyond the ability of my FZ20 to capture. I just picked up a green laser for $25 off the net, and have been having fun playing with it. Mine doesn't seem to have the power (it was billed as 100mW but it's probably closer to 20) to do a good job of cross sections when I shine it through plexiglass rod. I've had some luck doing a long (1-5 second) exposure and just passing the beam through smoke, fog etc. I just realized that there may be a better way of doing this, and that would be to make some sort of mask for a flash so that it just shines a thin slice of light. Has anyone on the list tried this, or something like it? Any advice or tricks that might help? I also need a better way of making smoke. Last night I was trying with dry ice, but it didn't work as well as I'd hoped, though some of my experiments with tonic water, black light (quinine fluoresces), dry ice, and the green laser show some promise: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157623226044832/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Moved: denial vs doom (was urbanites vs squirrels)
Thirty two bit overflow on dates stored as seconds from 1900 (signed), and 1970 (unsighed) in UNIX and DOS/Windows I expect that they'll be fixed when dates are stored in 64 bit integers. Properly done the fix should just fall out of the code on a recompile. But if something isn't recompiled or some really clever programmers took advantage of a side effect in a standard library... There could be other critical failures. thank you, I have never heard of these and google yielded nothing either at first glance so I figured I'd ask in case it was an ironic comment. 2038 is far away so I trust Bob to work his magic again. Can't help you there - I'll be retired. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - how to guarantee you luggage won't be lost
On 18/01/2010, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Didn't Australia used to be a free country? Yes, there's a lot of things we're free of ;-) -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PDML Book update after two weeks
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 05:07:06PM -0500, Daniel J. Matyola scripsit: I must have missed something. How does one become eligible for the Chicago Exhibit? I believe there is a ticky box in the submission form, which says you are willing to have your pictures used in the exhibit. I don't see any obvious what to check what you checked when you submitted the photos, though. -- Graydon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Honeymoon Pics
Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Subject: Re: PESO: Honeymoon Pics On Jan 17, 2010, at 12:47 AM, Bruce Dayton wrote: A well captured moment with a story to tell. Nicely done, Paul. Thanks Bruce. She was intently studying the photos, as was her male tablemate. When leaving I walked by her table and saw what she was looking at. They were some nice BW prints of a pretty, tropical location. Thus, honeymoon prints. They were married ? Not a good assumption nowadays. If not you could retitle it 'shackup shots'. ;+] -- Bruce Saturday, January 16, 2010, 1:47:41 PM, you wrote: PNS The Coffee Shop Portraits: PNS http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10516732size=lg PNS K7D, ISO 1250, DA* 50-135, f5, 1/30, 135mm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Smoke cross sections
great stuff, i'd try selling them as a smartphone screen saver cheers ecke 2010/1/17 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com: A few years ago, a friend took a green laser, shined it through a cylindrical lens to spread the beam in one axis (like a laser level) and passed that beam through smoke from his smoke machine. The effects looked amazing, but were well beyond the ability of my FZ20 to capture. I just picked up a green laser for $25 off the net, and have been having fun playing with it. Mine doesn't seem to have the power (it was billed as 100mW but it's probably closer to 20) to do a good job of cross sections when I shine it through plexiglass rod. I've had some luck doing a long (1-5 second) exposure and just passing the beam through smoke, fog etc. I just realized that there may be a better way of doing this, and that would be to make some sort of mask for a flash so that it just shines a thin slice of light. Has anyone on the list tried this, or something like it? Any advice or tricks that might help? I also need a better way of making smoke. Last night I was trying with dry ice, but it didn't work as well as I'd hoped, though some of my experiments with tonic water, black light (quinine fluoresces), dry ice, and the green laser show some promise: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157623226044832/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The temple of deferred maintenance
2010/1/17 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com: Actually, my whole property is the Temple of Deferred Maintenance. trust me, much better than to blow lots of rent every month for the temple of deferred ownership... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A word about cats, was OT: I REALLY hate squirrels
On Jan 17, 2010, at 7:24 AM, David Savage wrote: 2010/1/17 David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com: On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 7:50 AM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: While cats may not be stupid (though this is pretty debatable I don't think they are especially smart), I don't know about that. Our three have done a pretty good job of training us.:-) Most cat owners are pussies. Cat's don't have owners. Dogs have owners, cats have staff. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: I REALLY hate squirrels
On 18/01/2010, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: Look closely at the front of any footage of stampeding caribou and you'll see a skid-marked squirrel running like f_ck. Cheers, David AttenBob ROTFLMAO, thanks Bob ;-) -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: I REALLY hate squirrels
My neighbors have at least 3 cats that roam the outdoors I'd just love for one of them to attempt to catch a squirrel. My bet is unless the cat was unusually lucky, there's no way he could latch onto a healthy squirrel and could wind up with some nasty scratches from the squirrel. I've seen the results of cat hunting it mainly consists of mice, small rabbits the occasional bird. The squirrels around here are not afraid of the local cats. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Keith Whaley keit...@dslextreme.com Subject: Re: OT: I REALLY hate squirrels David J Brooks wrote: [...] We have three cats, one of which is an outdoor cat, Norman. She will go after the birds, mice, moles etc, but just sits there and watches the squirrels. I have pictures of her and a squirrel 3-5 feet away, just looking at each other. On occasion she will make a feeble attempt to chase one, but not very fast or very long. She's eleven which could have some bearing.?? Just remember, there is no such thing as a squirrel proof bird feeder. Dave Two things. Eleven is plenty old enough to have learned a lot of life's lessons, especially about squirrels, one of which is 'There is no end point in chasing a squirrel. It's more like So, what happens THEN? And while cats are amazingly agile and fast, they are NOT squirrels, which, being smaller, etc., will always have the edge in speed and agility... More like Supera Rodentii. g keith -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: I REALLY hate squirrels
P. J. Alling wrote: How about this one, squirrel beneath hawk. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20redtailhawkii.html Looks like a kitten! Nose not enough pointed to be a squirrel...seems to me. keith -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Moved: denial vs doom (was urbanites vs squirrels)
On 1/17/2010 4:54 PM, Graydon wrote:
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 08:43:53PM +0100, eckinator scripsit:
2010/1/17 paul stenquistpnstenqu...@comcast.net:
Real? It's not real until it happens. But I'm ready, I have my
millennium shelter fully stocked. Oh wait, that was the last
doomsday scenario. That was real as well.
naah the millennium bug was as real as the majority votes for dubya's
presidencies.
The Millenium bug -- a whole bunch of code that assumed it wouldn't be
running in 2000 -- was real; it just got (mostly) fixed in time. There
were a number -- but not a really big number -- of things like embedded
controllers that really did start acting weird, but the majority of
systems were patched or replaced in time.
Look at the 2010 bug they just had in Germany when someone made a
similar mistake abut date handling and millions of people suddenly
stopped having working bank cards.
So far as the whole anthropogenic climate change thing goes, one might
want to take a photographic perspective on the question and look at the
old and new shots of Glacier National Park.
http://www.livescience.com/php/multimedia/imagegallery/igviewer.php?imgid=626gid=42index=0
-- Graydon
So can we stop it? More importantly does it make sense to even try?
I've never seen an analysis of either of those questions that didn't
depend on unicorn dust...
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