Re: LR2 to LR3, a collection transfer problem

[Thibouille]

You guessed it right Godfrey, the Quick Collection didn't make it to LR3.
I was surprised and so are you. I finaly reimported the collection
from LR2 (converted to 'normal' collection first) and pictures were
imported as Virtual copies.
Since they were present in Last Imported, I took them in the LR3 Quick
Collection.

So, the most important thing is that I do have my collection back.
However I'm not satisfied how I had to fix that 'non import' myself.
Hope LR3->LR4 transition won't do such things to me.

Anyway, back to business.
I'd still like to know what happened though or if some others
experienced the same.

Thank you for your input Godfrey.

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Re: first look review of 645D at luminous landscape

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And 645D is marginally bigger sensor then Leica S2.

2010/9/6 Adam Maas :
> It's not significantly more expensive than a 1DsmIII or D3x while
> delivering about 75% more pixels and is far less expensive than a
> Leica S2 (and you can get more than 4 lenses for it), and those really
> are the only high-MP options with weather sealing.
>
> -Adam
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> On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 8:38 PM, Steven Desjardins  wrote:
>> Lots of nature photographers (and their websites and mags) are really
>> eager about this.  Its a big sensor, lots of lenses, and weather
>> sealing.  And, as odd as it is to say this, its all relatively
>> inexpensive.  Especially with the old 645 A lenses out there.
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Alastair Robertson
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>>> http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/pentax-645d-first.shtml
>>>
>>> Here's a hands-on first look report and video about a pre-production
>>> 645D from Nick Devlin for the online magazine Luminous Landscapes
>>> which is usually a pretty reliable source for sensible reviews.
>>>
>>> I, of course want one, but almost certainly will never actually do so!
>>>  Still if it's as good as the review suggests it's going to be and
>>> keeps getting order the rate it is going in Japan - it must gbe good
>>> for sales and reputation for Pentax.
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Re: Not Suited for Work

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Christine Aguila wrote:


The wondrous things you see when you're young.  :-)  Enjoy!

http://www.caguila.com/caguila/snap/content/IMGP1385_large.html

Cheers, Christine


Excellent Christine and well spotted. Is that a Nintendo DS in his hands -
or is he making notes?



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RE: PESO: Peyto Lake

[Bob W]

: PESO: Peyto Lake
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I like the way the lake leads you into that incredible landscape




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Re: are you guys seeing this email?

[Christine Aguila]

thanks, guys.  Took a few hours, I think, to get my successful post notices. 
I even emailed doug off list telling him the problem.  I think things are 
working now, though.  Cheers, Christine




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 Pass, Fail, Pass...

On 9/5/2010 2:10 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:

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RE: PESO Daisy

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> Just a snap made this weekend using my s90;
> 
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9304908/IMGS00845.jpg
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that's not bad at all!

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RE: Little drummer girl

[Bob W]

thanks

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> On Sun, 05 Sep 2010 17:52 +0100, "Bob W"  wrote:
> > Granddad doesn't seem to mind though:
> >
> >  options.com/Greenwich/content/L126_large.html>
> >
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> 
> Good fun.  A nice moment captured.
> 
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Re: Peyto Lake

[Christine Aguila]

Hi Dan:  I like the composition, but I'm wondering if this shot is 
oversharpened.  Cheers, Christine



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http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11550852

Comments, Suggestions, Criticisms and Abuse are Welcome.

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Re: PAW35 - V

[Boris Liberman]

It is a great pity, sir, that you and I couldn't meet during our visits 
to Norway, but I should be looking forward to correcting that omission. 
I very much would like to shake your hand in person.


Boris

On 9/5/2010 11:25 PM, DagT wrote:

Another one from some cold beach

http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/files/page7-1000-full.html
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Re: PESOs: Soft...

[Boris Liberman]

You can always enable me with it, you know :-)...

Boris


On 9/6/2010 12:27 AM, Toralf Lund wrote:

Lately I've been trying to find a use for that soft focus lens I bought
a few years ago (didn't need it, but it was such a bargain...) Here are
a few shots:

http://www.toralf.net/bilde.php?navn=2010-14-30
http://www.toralf.net/bilde.php?navn=2010-14-22
http://www.toralf.net/bilde.php?navn=2010-14-9
http://www.toralf.net/bilde.php?navn=2010-8-36

I've really only come up with one idea so far, as you can tell, but what
do you reckon?

Thanks for looking,

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Re: OT new service Google Home View (German w/French subtitles)

[Boris Liberman]

It is all in your sig, Ecke ;-).



On 9/5/2010 5:47 PM, eckinator wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMFBuHsKXb0&feature=youtu.be

Enjoy
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Re: Not Suited for Work

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On 9/5/2010 11:31 PM, Cotty wrote:

Classic!!


What the Englishman said ;-)

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Re: W. Eugene Smith Exhibition and Jazz Fest

[Boris Liberman]

Great collection of images, Christine. Any reason why b/w only?

Boris


On 9/5/2010 7:40 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:

Hi Everyone:

If you're in Chicago, check out the W. Eugene Smith--The Jazz Loft
Project exhibition at the Chicago Cultural Center. It's excellent. Jazz
Fest was this weekend at Millennium Park. We've had lovely weather for it.

Flash with captions
http://www.caguila.com/caguila/jazzfest

HTML with exif info and captions
http://www.caguila.com/caguila/jazzfest2

Comments welcome, Cheers, Christine





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Re: are you guys seeing this email?

[Boris Liberman]

On 9/5/2010 9:10 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:

test, test, test


tset ,tset ,tset <

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Re: W. Eugene Smith Exhibition and Jazz Fest

[Christine Aguila]

Thanks, Cotty!  Cheers, Christine


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Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2010 3:37 PM
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On 5/9/10, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed:


Hi Everyone:

If you're in Chicago, check out the W. Eugene Smith--The Jazz Loft Project
exhibition at the Chicago Cultural Center.   It's excellent. Jazz Fest was
this weekend at Millennium Park.  We've had lovely weather for it.

Flash with captions
http://www.caguila.com/caguila/jazzfest

HTML with exif info and captions
http://www.caguila.com/caguila/jazzfest2


Very enjoyable set of pics! Thanx.

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Re: Tamron 17-50 vs 28-75 ?

[Boris Liberman]

On 9/5/2010 11:36 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

I'd forgive you for being metric if 80 grams didn't equal a little under
three ounces, ~2.83 ounces to be more exact. Those lenses seemed nice
and light until you applied your conversion factor...


Mark!

Boris

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Re: Not Suited for Work

[Christine Aguila]

Thanks everyone for your kind remarks.  Much appreciated.  I got a real 
chuckle when I spotted this young boy.  Cheers, Christine



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Marvelous.  The funny part is would adults actually expect otherwise?

On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Chris Mitchell  
wrote:

Christine Aguila wrote:


The wondrous things you see when you're young. :-) Enjoy!

http://www.caguila.com/caguila/snap/content/IMGP1385_large.html

Cheers, Christine


Excellent Christine and well spotted. Is that a Nintendo DS in his hands -
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Chris



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Re: PAW35 - V

[Christine Aguila]

What Bob said.  Cheers, Christine


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Another one from some cold beach

http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/files/page7-1000-full.html
K20D, da*16-5...@16mm, 1/90s, f/9.5, ISO200

DagT
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you have a great talent for photographing empty spaces in an interesting 
and

beautiful way.

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Re: PESO: Peyto Lake

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Dan,
Very nice landscape and very busy.
It's a very untraditional, unbalanced view.
The dynamics of the composition and elements are interesting.
Regards,  Bob S.

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Re: PESOs: Soft...

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On Sun, 05 Sep 2010 23:27 +0200, "Toralf Lund" 
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> Lately I've been trying to find a use for that soft focus lens I bought 
> a few years ago (didn't need it, but it was such a bargain...) Here are 
> a few shots:
> 
> http://www.toralf.net/bilde.php?navn=2010-14-30
> http://www.toralf.net/bilde.php?navn=2010-14-22
> http://www.toralf.net/bilde.php?navn=2010-14-9
> http://www.toralf.net/bilde.php?navn=2010-8-36
> 
> I've really only come up with one idea so far, as you can tell, but what 
> do you reckon?
> 


I really like the first one - the plain black background sets the image
off beautifully.  I don't think the second works as well because of
those orange blotches, even though they are quite small.  On the other
hand, and unlike Bob, I do like the one with the fence, although I'd
probably like to have seen it slightly less centered. The fourth one is
my least favourite - it just seems a bit busy.



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Re: PESO: Peyto Lake

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  Beautiful scene, Daniel. Love the turquoise of the lake.  Nice capture.

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Re: PESO: Peyto Lake

[Jack Davis]

Very nice, Dan! Well composed. Clouds a bit hot in some areas, but this scene 
is a tough metering challenge.

Jack

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Re: PESO 2009 - 141 - GDG

[Brian Walters]

On Sat, 04 Sep 2010 15:48 -0700, "Godfrey DiGiorgi"
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> working on a blog post but this photo didn't fit ... and I like it too
> much to not post it around. figured the folks on here would enjoy it.
> 
> http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4113/4957812427_56057152fe_o.jpg
> Panasonic G1 + Lumix G 20mm f/1.7
> ISO 100 @ f/4.5 @ 1/250 second
> 
> .. Went to the meetup point for the usual Saturday morning walk with
> my friends and this late 1960s Falcon Pickup just somehow resonated
> with my eyes, framed just like this in b&w. I immediately pulled out
> the camera and took a photo. Two minutes later, the owner walked up
> and it was gone. Glad I had the camera ready ... :-)
> 


Very nice. I like the subtle contrast in the tone - not overdone. Just
right.



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Re: Not Suited for Work

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On Sun, 05 Sep 2010 11:51 -0500, "Christine  Aguila"
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> The wondrous things you see when you're young.  :-)  Enjoy!


Any age, really

Excellent shot, Christine.  I love the look of great appreciation on his
face.


Cheers

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Re: Little drummer girl

[Brian Walters]

On Sun, 05 Sep 2010 17:52 +0100, "Bob W"  wrote:
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Good fun.  A nice moment captured.


Cheers

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Re: Peso: The Noisy Cricket

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On Sun, 05 Sep 2010 19:50 -0400, "Steven Desjardins" 
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> OK, it's a grasshopper not a cricket and it's just a crop of a
> previous hooper shot and the noise is the electronic kind:
> 
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Oh - that sort of cricket.

I was expecting a sporting event

I like it - it looks like he's popping his head up to say g'day.  But,
then again, he's not an Aussie cricket so I suppose he wouldn't.


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PESO Daisy

[Rob Studdert]

Hi Team,

Just a snap made this weekend using my s90;

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9304908/IMGS00845.jpg

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PESO: Peyto Lake

[Daniel J. Matyola]

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Comments, Suggestions, Criticisms and Abuse are Welcome.

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Re: GESO Lime Kiln Bay

[Brian Walters]

On Sun, 05 Sep 2010 09:51 +1000, "Rob Studdert"
 wrote:

> Thanks for the comments. There are quite a few good parks to visit in
> the area, my favorites being the Royal National Park:
> 
> http://www.environment.nsw.gov.au/nationalparks/parkHome.aspx?id=N0030
> 
> And Heathcote National Park which is adjacent
> 
> http://www.environment.nsw.gov.au/NationalParks/parkHome.aspx?id=N0015
> 
> The wildflowers will be in full swing soon, might be a good time to
> visit if you're keen?


Yes, I need to re-invigorate my wildflower photography.  At one stage
that was pretty much all I did.  I did a bit last year in WA but I
missed the peak flowering season.

Probably sometime in the last week of September would be best - I'm
pretty much tied up until then.



Cheers

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Re: first look review of 645D at luminous landscape

[Steven Desjardins]

I just feel funny saying "inexpensive" for a 10K camera.  Not my
world.  For all of our musings on this camera, this might be a good
move for Pentax.  MF cameras aren't held to the same cutting edge
electronic standards as the high end FF and Dx bodies.  It might be a
healthy niche market that leads to a little notoriety, e.g., people
see the name on a wedding camera.  The K7 on steroids approach seems
to work just fine.  Aside from Leica, is any other company making MF
and FF/DX cameras?

On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 8:43 PM, Adam Maas  wrote:
> It's not significantly more expensive than a 1DsmIII or D3x while
> delivering about 75% more pixels and is far less expensive than a
> Leica S2 (and you can get more than 4 lenses for it), and those really
> are the only high-MP options with weather sealing.
>
> -Adam
>
> On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 8:38 PM, Steven Desjardins  wrote:
>> Lots of nature photographers (and their websites and mags) are really
>> eager about this.  Its a big sensor, lots of lenses, and weather
>> sealing.  And, as odd as it is to say this, its all relatively
>> inexpensive.  Especially with the old 645 A lenses out there.
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Alastair Robertson
>>  wrote:
>>> http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/pentax-645d-first.shtml
>>>
>>> Here's a hands-on first look report and video about a pre-production
>>> 645D from Nick Devlin for the online magazine Luminous Landscapes
>>> which is usually a pretty reliable source for sensible reviews.
>>>
>>> I, of course want one, but almost certainly will never actually do so!
>>>  Still if it's as good as the review suggests it's going to be and
>>> keeps getting order the rate it is going in Japan - it must gbe good
>>> for sales and reputation for Pentax.
>>>
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Re: OT: Potential gear bags

[Walter Gilbert]

Wow!  That is impressive for that kind of money.

I'll definitely keep an eye out for one at that price.  Thanks for the tip!

-- Walt


On 9/5/2010 7:42 PM, CheekyGeek wrote:

Silly me. Forgot the video link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXCAMU2A2ws

Darren Addy
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On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 7:41 PM, CheekyGeek  wrote:

Sounds similar to the functionality of the LowePro Flipside series.
I really like my Flipside 300 (Goldilocks' size: Just Right). I like
the idea of the zipper entrance being against ones back (no worry of
pickpockets gaining entry) yet it can slip off and still be held on by
waist, rotated to the front where you can gain access without taking
it off. This video shows it better (at about the 29 second mark).

I found a guy selling new Flipside 300s on eBay for $59 and have been
extremely pleased at how much fits inside it. No idea if he's still
around or if similar deals may be found. It is worth much more than
that to me, really.

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Re: PAW35 - V

[Steven Desjardins]

That's really nice.  Geometric and textured.  The inclusion of the
artist makes the shot.

On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 4:25 PM, DagT  wrote:
> Another one from some cold beach
>
> http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/files/page7-1000-full.html
> K20D, da*16-5...@16mm, 1/90s, f/9.5, ISO200
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Re: first look review of 645D at luminous landscape

[Adam Maas]

It's not significantly more expensive than a 1DsmIII or D3x while
delivering about 75% more pixels and is far less expensive than a
Leica S2 (and you can get more than 4 lenses for it), and those really
are the only high-MP options with weather sealing.

-Adam

On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 8:38 PM, Steven Desjardins  wrote:
> Lots of nature photographers (and their websites and mags) are really
> eager about this.  Its a big sensor, lots of lenses, and weather
> sealing.  And, as odd as it is to say this, its all relatively
> inexpensive.  Especially with the old 645 A lenses out there.
>
> On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Alastair Robertson
>  wrote:
>> http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/pentax-645d-first.shtml
>>
>> Here's a hands-on first look report and video about a pre-production
>> 645D from Nick Devlin for the online magazine Luminous Landscapes
>> which is usually a pretty reliable source for sensible reviews.
>>
>> I, of course want one, but almost certainly will never actually do so!
>>  Still if it's as good as the review suggests it's going to be and
>> keeps getting order the rate it is going in Japan - it must gbe good
>> for sales and reputation for Pentax.
>>
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Re: OT: Potential gear bags

[CheekyGeek]

Silly me. Forgot the video link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXCAMU2A2ws

Darren Addy
Kearney, Nebraska

On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 7:41 PM, CheekyGeek  wrote:
> Sounds similar to the functionality of the LowePro Flipside series.
> I really like my Flipside 300 (Goldilocks' size: Just Right). I like
> the idea of the zipper entrance being against ones back (no worry of
> pickpockets gaining entry) yet it can slip off and still be held on by
> waist, rotated to the front where you can gain access without taking
> it off. This video shows it better (at about the 29 second mark).
>
> I found a guy selling new Flipside 300s on eBay for $59 and have been
> extremely pleased at how much fits inside it. No idea if he's still
> around or if similar deals may be found. It is worth much more than
> that to me, really.
>
> Darren Addy
> Kearney, Nebraska
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Re: OT: Potential gear bags

[CheekyGeek]

Sounds similar to the functionality of the LowePro Flipside series.
I really like my Flipside 300 (Goldilocks' size: Just Right). I like
the idea of the zipper entrance being against ones back (no worry of
pickpockets gaining entry) yet it can slip off and still be held on by
waist, rotated to the front where you can gain access without taking
it off. This video shows it better (at about the 29 second mark).

I found a guy selling new Flipside 300s on eBay for $59 and have been
extremely pleased at how much fits inside it. No idea if he's still
around or if similar deals may be found. It is worth much more than
that to me, really.

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Re: first look review of 645D at luminous landscape

[Steven Desjardins]

Lots of nature photographers (and their websites and mags) are really
eager about this.  Its a big sensor, lots of lenses, and weather
sealing.  And, as odd as it is to say this, its all relatively
inexpensive.  Especially with the old 645 A lenses out there.

On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Alastair Robertson
 wrote:
> http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/pentax-645d-first.shtml
>
> Here's a hands-on first look report and video about a pre-production
> 645D from Nick Devlin for the online magazine Luminous Landscapes
> which is usually a pretty reliable source for sensible reviews.
>
> I, of course want one, but almost certainly will never actually do so!
>  Still if it's as good as the review suggests it's going to be and
> keeps getting order the rate it is going in Japan - it must gbe good
> for sales and reputation for Pentax.
>
> Alastair
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Re: OT: Potential gear bags

[Steven Desjardins]

I'm also sure they expedite those occasional security problems we have
with photo gear at airports.

Actually, they look pretty nice.  I've bookmarked the page.  I'm still
using my f2 domke but If I ever need a bigger bag. . .

On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Walter Gilbert  wrote:
>   Well, hey -- using one to carry photo equipment would only be the latest
> in a long line of heresies for me, such as:  drinking beer from a tumbler,
> putting trash in grocery bags, using a BBQ lighter to set off fireworks, and
> eating ice cream with a demitasse spoon.
>
> I figure it would work pretty well in a deer stand or turkey blind this
> fall.
>
>
> On 9/5/2010 4:43 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
>>
>>  It's an ordnance bag, you can carry your grenades and blocks of C4 in it
>> too...
>>
>> On 9/5/2010 1:35 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote:
>>>
>>> So your saying we should use a firearms bag as a camera bag based on
>>> the advice of a guy using it as a diaper bag? ;-)
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Walter Gilbert
>>>  wrote:

  Hi all,

 Yesterday, while having a lovely beverage at my favorite local
 dispensary, I
 saw a gentleman wearing what looked to me like an excellent camera bag
 --
 only he was using it for diapers, bottles, wipes, etc. for the baby he
 was
 carrying.  It was an over-the-shoulder type sling bag that hung across
 his
 torso and fell at about waist-level.  I asked him where he'd gotten it,
 and
 he told me he'd ordered it from cheaperthandirt.com -- a shooting sports
 equipment site.  So, I checked the site, and unfortunately, that
 particular
 bag wasn't listed there any longer.  Still, they did have several there
 at
 reasonable prices that appear to be potentially good candidates for
 photography use, and at very reasonable prices compared to some of the
 LowerPro gear I've seen.

 I thought I'd pass along the link in case anyone might be interested,
 and
 see if anyone had any experience using anything along these lines to get
 pros and cons.

 For your perusal:

 http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ItemListing.aspx?catid=280



 Best,

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Re: first look review of 645D at luminous landscape

[Miserere]

I think people are going to hold on to their 645Ds for a long, long
time. Think an order of magnitude longer than Nikon D700's :-D


  --M.



On 05/09/2010, Steven Desjardins  wrote:
> S. . . .   How long will this 10K camera last?  Even replacing
> this every five years could get pricey.  I wonder how fast Pentax will
> update it?  If it uses the K-7 electronics and they come up with a
> better set, do they upgrade it?
>
>  My rather convoluted thinking is that I wonder what the USED 645D
> market will look like in a few years.  What other chance do I have
> after all?
>
> On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Alastair Robertson
>  wrote:
>> http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/pentax-645d-first.shtml
>>
>> Here's a hands-on first look report and video about a pre-production
>> 645D from Nick Devlin for the online magazine Luminous Landscapes
>> which is usually a pretty reliable source for sensible reviews.
>>
>> I, of course want one, but almost certainly will never actually do so!
>>  Still if it's as good as the review suggests it's going to be and
>> keeps getting order the rate it is going in Japan - it must gbe good
>> for sales and reputation for Pentax.
>>
>> Alastair
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Re: W. Eugene Smith Exhibition and Jazz Fest

[Miserere]

I'll take a look when I have something larger than a BB screen in
front of me. Is this an ongoing exhibit?

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On 05/09/2010, Christine  Aguila  wrote:
> Hi Everyone:
>
> If you're in Chicago, check out the W. Eugene Smith--The Jazz Loft Project
> exhibition at the Chicago Cultural Center.   It's excellent. Jazz Fest was
> this weekend at Millennium Park.  We've had lovely weather for it.
>
> Flash with captions
> http://www.caguila.com/caguila/jazzfest
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> HTML with exif info and captions
> http://www.caguila.com/caguila/jazzfest2
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> Comments welcome, Cheers, Christine
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Re: OT PC thingies

[Rob Studdert]

On 6 September 2010 03:23, David J Brooks  wrote:

> My other concern is the video card. What should i look for in a Dell
> or HP, and what should i ask the computer builder for.??

Try to get a box new or used with a PCI-E X-16 slot for your graphics
card. The best value card for power requirements vs graphics
performance vs connection flexibility for photogs at the moment is
probably something like the SAPPHIRE HD 5670 1GB

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Peso: The Noisy Cricket

[Steven Desjardins]

OK, it's a grasshopper not a cricket and it's just a crop of a
previous hooper shot and the noise is the electronic kind:

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Re: Pesos: Hoppers

[Steven Desjardins]

I think that was as close as I could get with the 50.  I'll look at a
tighter crop.  I'm starting to realize how much more flexibility you
have with a 14 MP sensor making 5-6 MP crops.

On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 5:37 PM, P. J. Alling  wrote:
>  I like the second.  The first made it a little too difficult to pick out
> the "Hopper", the third needed to be closer...
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Re: OT: Potential gear bags

[Walter Gilbert]

   Well, hey -- using one to carry photo equipment would only be the 
latest in a long line of heresies for me, such as:  drinking beer from a 
tumbler, putting trash in grocery bags, using a BBQ lighter to set off 
fireworks, and eating ice cream with a demitasse spoon.


I figure it would work pretty well in a deer stand or turkey blind this 
fall.



On 9/5/2010 4:43 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
 It's an ordnance bag, you can carry your grenades and blocks of C4 in 
it too...


On 9/5/2010 1:35 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote:

So your saying we should use a firearms bag as a camera bag based on
the advice of a guy using it as a diaper bag? ;-)

On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Walter Gilbert  
wrote:

  Hi all,

Yesterday, while having a lovely beverage at my favorite local 
dispensary, I
saw a gentleman wearing what looked to me like an excellent camera 
bag --
only he was using it for diapers, bottles, wipes, etc. for the baby 
he was
carrying.  It was an over-the-shoulder type sling bag that hung 
across his
torso and fell at about waist-level.  I asked him where he'd gotten 
it, and
he told me he'd ordered it from cheaperthandirt.com -- a shooting 
sports
equipment site.  So, I checked the site, and unfortunately, that 
particular
bag wasn't listed there any longer.  Still, they did have several 
there at

reasonable prices that appear to be potentially good candidates for
photography use, and at very reasonable prices compared to some of the
LowerPro gear I've seen.

I thought I'd pass along the link in case anyone might be 
interested, and
see if anyone had any experience using anything along these lines to 
get

pros and cons.

For your perusal:

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ItemListing.aspx?catid=280



Best,

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Re: PESOs: Soft...

[CheekyGeek]

For some additional sources of inspiration, there are several Flickr
groups devoted to Soft Focus:
http://www.flickr.com/groups/artofsoftfocus/
http://www.flickr.com/groups/712...@n20/
http://www.flickr.com/groups/soft_focus/
http://www.flickr.com/groups/softfocusportraits/

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Re: Fairly large earthquake

[Bob Sullivan]

Yes, I hope it is all OK.  Regards,  Bob S.

On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 5:29 PM, David Mann  wrote:
> On Sep 6, 2010, at 2:28 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
>
>> Dave,
>> When you get into the CBD, take some pictures of the central 'square'.
>> We still have fond memories of meeting you there.
>> Regards,  Bob S.
>
> Will do.  I expect it'll be pretty good because the old buildings around 
> there had a lot of earthquake strengthening work done.  I've heard the 
> cathedral is fine and I haven't seen any media footage of that area so I 
> expect there's nothing to report.
>
> Cheers,
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RE: Fairly large earthquake

[Bob W]

> > Ahem, what happened to the business continuity and disaster recovery
> plan?
> > Surely you've rehearsed it twice a year! ..
> 
> She'll be right, mate...
> 
> (Don't get me started)
> 

In one of my previous jobs there was no disaster recovery plan because the
owner and chairman said there weren't going to be any disasters. A week
later he died of a heart attack. The one they eventually put together
consisted of Citrix, a laptop, and Starbucks.

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RE: PESOs: Soft...

[Bob W]

> Lately I've been trying to find a use for that soft focus lens I bought a
few
> years ago (didn't need it, but it was such a bargain...) Here are a few
shots:
> 
> http://www.toralf.net/bilde.php?navn=2010-14-30
> http://www.toralf.net/bilde.php?navn=2010-14-22
> http://www.toralf.net/bilde.php?navn=2010-14-9
> http://www.toralf.net/bilde.php?navn=2010-8-36
> 
> I've really only come up with one idea so far, as you can tell, but what
do you
> reckon?
> 

very nicely done, but I don't like the one with the fence in the background.




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Re: Fairly large earthquake

[David Mann]

On Sep 6, 2010, at 2:28 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

> Dave,
> When you get into the CBD, take some pictures of the central 'square'.
> We still have fond memories of meeting you there.
> Regards,  Bob S.

Will do.  I expect it'll be pretty good because the old buildings around there 
had a lot of earthquake strengthening work done.  I've heard the cathedral is 
fine and I haven't seen any media footage of that area so I expect there's 
nothing to report.

Cheers,
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Re: Fairly large earthquake

[David Mann]

On Sep 5, 2010, at 10:11 PM, Bob W wrote:

> Ahem, what happened to the business continuity and disaster recovery plan?
> Surely you've rehearsed it twice a year! ..

She'll be right, mate...

(Don't get me started)

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Re: OT new service Google Home View (German w/French subtitles)

[Thomas Bohn]

On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 16:47, eckinator  wrote:

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMFBuHsKXb0&feature=youtu.be

Way more fun is the interview by Martin Sonneborn with a lobbyist of
the German generic drug industry in which he tries to argue against
cheap imports from China but he did in a way that it looks like he
expected the TV team to cut the interview in his way. Well, they
didn't.

The video only in German:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4QXpRrp5zg

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Re: OT PC thingies

[P. J. Alling]

 On 9/5/2010 9:31 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 9:17 AM, eckinator  wrote:

Hi Dave
(comments interspersed)


Well my 2001 PC is acting up again. Not allowing me to boot. I seem to
be able to get into it via the safemode, F8 key.

First things first, do you have a backup of all data on the system?

Yes i do.


Also, have you tried logging in as a different user? Same problem?

Can't. I turn it on and get the Intel splash screen then a Dos promt
saying boot failure.
I upgraded the HD in 2006, i think, and it was about a year later i
started getting these boot failure prompts. Usually a few retries and
i was in. I had it looked at last Oct, and the computer guyone mane
show) found nothing wrong, out of the ordinary, and suggested several
things. However due to the age of the PC we both agreed it was a waste
of money and if it happened again and new PC would be cheaper in the
long run, It has been working fine until Saturday and now i can only
get intro windows with the F8 key.

Dave


Try reseating the hard drive cable, on the drive and the MB before 
anything else.  If that doesn't work try replacing the cable with a new 
one.   A lot of failures that look really bad are caused by bad cables, 
and connections.  The computer guy might not have even checked the 
cables if the machine booted.  I've had hard failures that looked much 
like the symptoms that you're describing.  If it;s the drive well it's a 
good thing you have backups, (if they're good).  At the next level the 
Drive might have been cooked by a failing power supply, and it starts to 
get complicated



- I am trying to restore my system to a previous good date. I am now
into to hour two waiting for it to do so, how long should this take.

If you mean F8 and boot to last known good it should be a matter of
seconds. Last known good only means loading a different, older
registry portion for certain settings. These are overwritten upon
logon completion so usually they are pretty worthless after a half
complete login failed on the profile level.

If you mean XP system restore two hours aren't normal either.

Basically you can let it run for a while yet without harm assuming it
isn't a thermal issue. Can you take off a side cover and check air and
hard disk temperatures? The HD is OK to be hot to the touch but you
should be able to leave your hand on there as long as you like. Also,
while you're in there, listen for very regular ticking/scratching
noises from the hard disk. If it is a persistent pattern, it usually
means your disk is mechanically defective and cannot reach a certain
sector.

It could of course just be Windows XP that is dodgy. (I take the
liberty to assume you're no longer running 2000 if you speak of a
system restore). Have you tried a repair install/in-place upgrade? The
XP setup disk needs to be the same service pack level as your current
install. If yours isn't, you can use a different computer and nLite
(great tool) to create one. The process is called slipstreaming and
officially supported by Micro$oft.

I won't comment on your buying advice request as I am all about server
hardware, I haven't owned a computer since 2004, all I ever have is
work laptops.

HTH Ecke

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Re: PAW35 - V

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Nice composition.  That looks a bit lit the footprint of a huge bird.
The "U" of the far hills echos the foreground v or w.

Dan

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Re: Little drummer girl

[Daniel J. Matyola]

That is a lovely portrait of two good friends!

Dan

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> Granddad doesn't seem to mind though:
>
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Re: first look review of 645D at luminous landscape

[Steven Desjardins]

S. . . .   How long will this 10K camera last?  Even replacing
this every five years could get pricey.  I wonder how fast Pentax will
update it?  If it uses the K-7 electronics and they come up with a
better set, do they upgrade it?

 My rather convoluted thinking is that I wonder what the USED 645D
market will look like in a few years.  What other chance do I have
after all?

On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Alastair Robertson
 wrote:
> http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/pentax-645d-first.shtml
>
> Here's a hands-on first look report and video about a pre-production
> 645D from Nick Devlin for the online magazine Luminous Landscapes
> which is usually a pretty reliable source for sensible reviews.
>
> I, of course want one, but almost certainly will never actually do so!
>  Still if it's as good as the review suggests it's going to be and
> keeps getting order the rate it is going in Japan - it must gbe good
> for sales and reputation for Pentax.
>
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Re: are you guys seeing this email?

[P. J. Alling]

 Pass, Fail, Pass...

On 9/5/2010 2:10 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:

test, test, test




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Re: OT: Potential gear bags

[P. J. Alling]

 It's an ordnance bag, you can carry your grenades and blocks of C4 in 
it too...


On 9/5/2010 1:35 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote:

So your saying we should use a firearms bag as a camera bag based on
the advice of a guy using it as a diaper bag? ;-)

On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Walter Gilbert  wrote:

  Hi all,

Yesterday, while having a lovely beverage at my favorite local dispensary, I
saw a gentleman wearing what looked to me like an excellent camera bag --
only he was using it for diapers, bottles, wipes, etc. for the baby he was
carrying.  It was an over-the-shoulder type sling bag that hung across his
torso and fell at about waist-level.  I asked him where he'd gotten it, and
he told me he'd ordered it from cheaperthandirt.com -- a shooting sports
equipment site.  So, I checked the site, and unfortunately, that particular
bag wasn't listed there any longer.  Still, they did have several there at
reasonable prices that appear to be potentially good candidates for
photography use, and at very reasonable prices compared to some of the
LowerPro gear I've seen.

I thought I'd pass along the link in case anyone might be interested, and
see if anyone had any experience using anything along these lines to get
pros and cons.

For your perusal:

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ItemListing.aspx?catid=280



Best,

Walt




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first look review of 645D at luminous landscape

[Alastair Robertson]

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/pentax-645d-first.shtml

Here's a hands-on first look report and video about a pre-production
645D from Nick Devlin for the online magazine Luminous Landscapes
which is usually a pretty reliable source for sensible reviews.

I, of course want one, but almost certainly will never actually do so!
 Still if it's as good as the review suggests it's going to be and
keeps getting order the rate it is going in Japan - it must gbe good
for sales and reputation for Pentax.

Alastair

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Re: Pesos: Hoppers

[P. J. Alling]

 I like the second.  The first made it a little too difficult to pick 
out the "Hopper", the third needed to be closer...


On 9/5/2010 12:50 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote:

Since I'm way out of practice, I've decided I just have to do a bunch
of shooting and look for criticism:

http://s857.photobucket.com/albums/ab138/drd1135/PDML/?action=view¤t=hopper2.jpg
http://s857.photobucket.com/albums/ab138/drd1135/PDML/?action=view¤t=hopper1.jpg
http://s857.photobucket.com/albums/ab138/drd1135/PDML/?action=view¤t=hopper3.jpg

K7 and FA 50 1.4.  These are all cropped to about 70% of the original
so I could move things around.




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Re: Fairly large earthquake

[P. J. Alling]

ll licensed [for liquor] premises have been closed.


Barbarians, I take back everything nice I ever thought about the New 
Zealand Government.



On 9/4/2010 4:31 AM, David Mann wrote:

On Sep 4, 2010, at 6:28 PM, Bob W wrote:


glad to hear you're ok.

The BBC wants your pictures:
<  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11183685>

There's not a lot of interest I can supply.  We walked to the local petrol 
station for some milk earlier and you wouldn't know anything had happened.  We 
saw one twisted fence, a few hairline cracks across the road and a couple of 
damaged chimneys.

Here are a few snaps I took of our place, plus a seismographic drum recording 
(where it's red they've clipped the reading to prevent it obscuring the rest of 
the image).

http://www.multi.net.nz/quake/

I'll try and see what I can get from the CBD on Monday.  It does look pretty 
dangerous and there are likely to be several roads closed depending on what the 
building engineers say.

They've declared a State of Emergency and have set a curfew tonight from 7pm to 
7am.  All licensed [for liquor] premises have been closed.  The aftershocks are 
still annoying me and they'll be continuing for another couple of days.

I'd be thinking about moving to Australia if it wasn't for the snakes&  spiders.

Cheers,
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PESOs: Soft...

[Toralf Lund]

Lately I've been trying to find a use for that soft focus lens I bought 
a few years ago (didn't need it, but it was such a bargain...) Here are 
a few shots:


http://www.toralf.net/bilde.php?navn=2010-14-30
http://www.toralf.net/bilde.php?navn=2010-14-22
http://www.toralf.net/bilde.php?navn=2010-14-9
http://www.toralf.net/bilde.php?navn=2010-8-36

I've really only come up with one idea so far, as you can tell, but what 
do you reckon?


Thanks for looking,

- Toralf

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Re: OT PC thingies

[Steven Desjardins]

OK, I'll attempt to contribute.  I own one of each and have seen many
of each go through the chemistry department.  The biggest differences
for me are viruses and quality control.  The macs are more likely not
to have a fixable equipment problem out of the box than the PCs.  I
use a Mac at home because, when I'm not behind the W&L firewall, the
Macs just have no real problems that way.  I sorry but beyond that
it's preferences escalating up to religion.

On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 5:06 PM, paul stenquist  wrote:
> My Macbook, which is only about a year old, has an easily replaceable battery 
> that will usually give me abut five hours of computing time. Enough for a 
> flight to California. Works for me.
> Paul
> On Sep 5, 2010, at 4:52 PM, drd1...@gmail.com wrote:
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>> Damn, out of popcorn. Hang on while I run to the kitchen.
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Adam Maas 
>> Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net
>> Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 16:47:22
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>> On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 4:12 PM, steve harley  wrote:
>>> On 2010-09-05 10:56 , Adam Maas wrote:

 I'm talking Dell, HP, Toshiba and Lenovo here. Similar quality
 components, sometimes better (HP for example uses Asus MB's on their
 desktops, better quality boards than the Mac desktop boards aside from
 the Mac Pro's). The components used in the non-Pro Mac's are nothing
 special and some parts (desktop PSU's in particular) are inferior to
 the standardized designs used in the PC world.
>>>
>>> avoiding the general point, some high points on Mac components are batteries
>>> in current MacBooks and MacBooks Pro, and displays on current iMacs; also
>>> worth mentioning that the current Mini has an extremely low power draw
>>
>> Actually, the Batteries are a current low point. Good life at the cost
>> of a shop-run to replace. The iMac displays are good. The Mini's power
>> draw is nothing special, any laptop-based SFF PC will have similar
>> draw (that's how the Mini achieves it) and the Mini gives up a LOT of
>> performance to get the low power draw. Most SFF PC's are based on
>> desktop hardware and have significantly greater performance,
>> especially in terms of video and HDD performance.
>>
>>>
>>>
 Note Macs are poor hosts for OS's other than OS X or

 Windows as well
>>>
>>> how so? do you mean that virtualized OSs run more slowly, or what? i
>>> certainly get what i need running Win2000, XP & 7 plus various Ubuntu and
>>> CentOS VMs, so for my modest purposes i don't understand what you might mean
>>> by "poor host"
>>>
>>
>> Virtualization is fine, booting natively not so much and getting those
>> OS's to boot on EFI-based systems can be a real pain.
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Re: PAW35 - V

[Bruce Dayton]

Well I find this rather interesting.  It feels rather empty but yet it feels 
full of subject - thanks for sharing.
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"DagT"  wrote:

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Re: Not Suited for Work

[Steven Desjardins]

Marvelous.  The funny part is would adults actually expect otherwise?

On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Chris Mitchell  wrote:
> Christine Aguila wrote:
>>
>> The wondrous things you see when you're young.  :-)  Enjoy!
>>
>> http://www.caguila.com/caguila/snap/content/IMGP1385_large.html
>>
>> Cheers, Christine
>
> Excellent Christine and well spotted. Is that a Nintendo DS in his hands -
> or is he making notes?
>
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Re: Not Suited for Work

[paul stenquist]

Great catch!
An experience almost every pre-pubescent boy will experience. For me, it was my 
uncle's photography books. Don't know about you ladies! 
Paul
On Sep 5, 2010, at 12:51 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:

> The wondrous things you see when you're young.  :-)  Enjoy!
> 
> http://www.caguila.com/caguila/snap/content/IMGP1385_large.html
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RE: Not Suited for Work

[Chris Mitchell]

Christine Aguila wrote:
> 
> The wondrous things you see when you're young.  :-)  Enjoy!
> 
> http://www.caguila.com/caguila/snap/content/IMGP1385_large.html
> 
> Cheers, Christine

Excellent Christine and well spotted. Is that a Nintendo DS in his hands -
or is he making notes?

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Re: OT PC thingies

[paul stenquist]

My Macbook, which is only about a year old, has an easily replaceable battery 
that will usually give me abut five hours of computing time. Enough for a 
flight to California. Works for me.
Paul
On Sep 5, 2010, at 4:52 PM, drd1...@gmail.com wrote:

> Damn, out of popcorn. Hang on while I run to the kitchen. 
> -Original Message-
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> On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 4:12 PM, steve harley  wrote:
>> On 2010-09-05 10:56 , Adam Maas wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm talking Dell, HP, Toshiba and Lenovo here. Similar quality
>>> components, sometimes better (HP for example uses Asus MB's on their
>>> desktops, better quality boards than the Mac desktop boards aside from
>>> the Mac Pro's). The components used in the non-Pro Mac's are nothing
>>> special and some parts (desktop PSU's in particular) are inferior to
>>> the standardized designs used in the PC world.
>> 
>> avoiding the general point, some high points on Mac components are batteries
>> in current MacBooks and MacBooks Pro, and displays on current iMacs; also
>> worth mentioning that the current Mini has an extremely low power draw
> 
> Actually, the Batteries are a current low point. Good life at the cost
> of a shop-run to replace. The iMac displays are good. The Mini's power
> draw is nothing special, any laptop-based SFF PC will have similar
> draw (that's how the Mini achieves it) and the Mini gives up a LOT of
> performance to get the low power draw. Most SFF PC's are based on
> desktop hardware and have significantly greater performance,
> especially in terms of video and HDD performance.
> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Note Macs are poor hosts for OS's other than OS X or
>>> 
>>> Windows as well
>> 
>> how so? do you mean that virtualized OSs run more slowly, or what? i
>> certainly get what i need running Win2000, XP & 7 plus various Ubuntu and
>> CentOS VMs, so for my modest purposes i don't understand what you might mean
>> by "poor host"
>> 
> 
> Virtualization is fine, booting natively not so much and getting those
> OS's to boot on EFI-based systems can be a real pain.
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Re: PAW35 - V

[DagT]

Den 5. sep. 2010 kl. 22.46 skrev Bob W:

>> Another one from some cold beach
>> 
>> http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/files/page7-1000-full.html
>> K20D, da*16-5...@16mm, 1/90s, f/9.5, ISO200
>> 
>> DagT
>> http://www.thrane.name/
> 
> you have a great talent for photographing empty spaces in an interesting and
> beautiful way.

Thanks!!

I think I´ll print that comment in a large format and find a large empty space 
on a wall!

.-)

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Re: OT PC thingies

[drd1135]

Damn, out of popcorn. Hang on while I run to the kitchen. 
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On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 4:12 PM, steve harley  wrote:
> On 2010-09-05 10:56 , Adam Maas wrote:
>>
>> I'm talking Dell, HP, Toshiba and Lenovo here. Similar quality
>> components, sometimes better (HP for example uses Asus MB's on their
>> desktops, better quality boards than the Mac desktop boards aside from
>> the Mac Pro's). The components used in the non-Pro Mac's are nothing
>> special and some parts (desktop PSU's in particular) are inferior to
>> the standardized designs used in the PC world.
>
> avoiding the general point, some high points on Mac components are batteries
> in current MacBooks and MacBooks Pro, and displays on current iMacs; also
> worth mentioning that the current Mini has an extremely low power draw

Actually, the Batteries are a current low point. Good life at the cost
of a shop-run to replace. The iMac displays are good. The Mini's power
draw is nothing special, any laptop-based SFF PC will have similar
draw (that's how the Mini achieves it) and the Mini gives up a LOT of
performance to get the low power draw. Most SFF PC's are based on
desktop hardware and have significantly greater performance,
especially in terms of video and HDD performance.

>
>
>> Note Macs are poor hosts for OS's other than OS X or
>>
>> Windows as well
>
> how so? do you mean that virtualized OSs run more slowly, or what? i
> certainly get what i need running Win2000, XP & 7 plus various Ubuntu and
> CentOS VMs, so for my modest purposes i don't understand what you might mean
> by "poor host"
>

Virtualization is fine, booting natively not so much and getting those
OS's to boot on EFI-based systems can be a real pain.

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Re: OT PC thingies

[Adam Maas]

On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 4:32 PM, mike wilson  wrote:
> Adam Maas wrote:
>
>> I've priced this and you can almost always get a pre-built system
>> cheaper than a home-built system. It's been about a decade since
>> building your own was a good economic choice. The biggest reason to
>> build your own system is to get a specific parts selection, but you'll
>> pay at least 10% more that way. Used to build all my own stuff, now I
>> buy relatively barebones-spec HP's and upgrade RAM/HDD/Video and
>> sometimes CPU, saves me a fair bit over any other option.
>
> Except... in my experience, the savings are usually made in things like
> power supplies or quality of memory chips, or cooling fans that quickly wear
> to sound like F16s.  In fact, anything that the manufacturer can get away
> without specifying exactly.  Not really savings at all.
>

That's not my experience with good brands (HP, Dell, etc) although it
most certainly applies to most white box systems and cheap brands.
Dell and HP get their savings by buying components by the shipload,
White Box stores get theirs by using crap for stuff that doesn't
appear on the spec shortlist.

My HP's have proven to have lifetimes similar to my Mac's, if not longer.

-Adam

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Re: are you guys seeing this email?

[drd1135]

define what you mean by "seeing".  
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Re: OT PC thingies

[Adam Maas]

On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 4:12 PM, steve harley  wrote:
> On 2010-09-05 10:56 , Adam Maas wrote:
>>
>> I'm talking Dell, HP, Toshiba and Lenovo here. Similar quality
>> components, sometimes better (HP for example uses Asus MB's on their
>> desktops, better quality boards than the Mac desktop boards aside from
>> the Mac Pro's). The components used in the non-Pro Mac's are nothing
>> special and some parts (desktop PSU's in particular) are inferior to
>> the standardized designs used in the PC world.
>
> avoiding the general point, some high points on Mac components are batteries
> in current MacBooks and MacBooks Pro, and displays on current iMacs; also
> worth mentioning that the current Mini has an extremely low power draw

Actually, the Batteries are a current low point. Good life at the cost
of a shop-run to replace. The iMac displays are good. The Mini's power
draw is nothing special, any laptop-based SFF PC will have similar
draw (that's how the Mini achieves it) and the Mini gives up a LOT of
performance to get the low power draw. Most SFF PC's are based on
desktop hardware and have significantly greater performance,
especially in terms of video and HDD performance.

>
>
>> Note Macs are poor hosts for OS's other than OS X or
>>
>> Windows as well
>
> how so? do you mean that virtualized OSs run more slowly, or what? i
> certainly get what i need running Win2000, XP & 7 plus various Ubuntu and
> CentOS VMs, so for my modest purposes i don't understand what you might mean
> by "poor host"
>

Virtualization is fine, booting natively not so much and getting those
OS's to boot on EFI-based systems can be a real pain.

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Re: test

[drd1135]

OK.   State the Clausius definition of entropy.
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Re: Not Suited for Work

[DagT]

Great!  .-)

DagT
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Den 5. sep. 2010 kl. 18.51 skrev Christine Aguila:

> The wondrous things you see when you're young.  :-)  Enjoy!
> 
> http://www.caguila.com/caguila/snap/content/IMGP1385_large.html
> 
> Cheers, Christine
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RE: PAW35 - V

[Bob W]

> Another one from some cold beach
> 
> http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/files/page7-1000-full.html
> K20D, da*16-5...@16mm, 1/90s, f/9.5, ISO200
> 
> DagT
> http://www.thrane.name/

you have a great talent for photographing empty spaces in an interesting and
beautiful way.

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RE: OT: Mighty Elmar

[Bob W]

> > that's right - Pied Bull Yard. Bloomsbury Square is through the yard
> > behind where I was standing; the museum is about 100 yards away.
> 
> Great place. Is the camera shop that specialized in antiques and
collectibles
> still there?

There have been several, sometimes at the same time. Jessops had their
collectibles shop there, but it closed down a 2 or 3 years ago, which was a
great shame. It stocked some great stuff, including quite rare film stock.
There was also a Leica-oriented shop which also took in some of the older
and rarer Nikon, Contax, Canon stuff, especially rangefinders. At one time
they had George Rodger's camera bag with several of his cameras and lenses
and associated paraphernalia in a special display - wonderful to see. I
don't know what became of them after the shop closed down, but according to
one of the people who worked there the shop was a rich man's hobby rather
than a strict commercial enterprise, so perhaps he kept them.

Bob


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Re: Little drummer girl

[Christine Aguila]

Great fun, Bob.  Love it!  Cheers, Christine


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Subject: Little drummer girl



Granddad doesn't seem to mind though:



Bob


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Re: Not Suited for Work

[Cotty]

On 5/9/10, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Lovely shot. Never saw anything like that when I was young.

When I was 9 years old my father took us all around to one of his
friend's house in San Jose - they had a colour TV (we had a BW) and we
watched Neil Armstrong pop down a ladder and jump about on the moon.
After it got a bit boring I mooched about and found an old Playboy
magazine behind the sofa. As I thumbed through the delights of Miss
Whatever-month-it-was out of eyeshot, my mother interrupted my
revelations by exclaiming from above: "Well she's got a good set of jugs
then hasn't she!" I don't think I breathed for over a minute.


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Re: OT new service Google Home View (German w/French subtitles)

[P. J. Alling]

 Well that was bizarre, in German with French subtitles

On 9/5/2010 10:47 AM, eckinator wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMFBuHsKXb0&feature=youtu.be

Enjoy
Ecke

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Re: Tamron 17-50 vs 28-75 ?

[P. J. Alling]

 I'd forgive you for being metric if 80 grams didn't equal a little 
under three ounces, ~2.83 ounces to be more exact.  Those lenses seemed 
nice and light until you applied your conversion factor...


On 9/5/2010 1:12 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:
My apologies for being metric but 17-50 weighs 430 g (or so) and 28-75 
weighs 510 g (or so). As far as my non-metric knowledge goes, 80 g is 
nowhere close to 1/2 pound...


I've Tamron 28-75/2.8 and it seems my copy is outstanding. On Pentax 
DSLR it yields angle of view similar to that of 43-110 mm lens, give 
or take few mm on the long end. If you get a good sample, it will 
light your face with excellent sharpness even wide open. On the 
downside the colors are slightly warmer than those of Pentax, but 
personally, I don't have anything against that. Also sometimes the 
bokeh is pretty harsh. It is however pretty small (67 mm filter 
thread) and light for this class of lens (standard 2.8 zoom).


I don't own Tamron 17-50/2.8 mainly because it is not a full frame 
lens (or a fool frame lens, if you want to call me that way). But I 
did recommend it to a number of my friends and they are quite happy.


It shouldn't be a problem to find loads of (full size) images from 
both lenses on sites such as pbase or pixelpeeper.


There is one more thing worth mentioning for Tamron 28-75/2.8. Both 
zoom and focus rings rotate the Pentax way. As opposed, e.g., to Sigma 
24-60/2.8 which does it the other way around...



Boris




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Re: W. Eugene Smith Exhibition and Jazz Fest

[Cotty]

On 5/9/10, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Hi Everyone:
>
>If you're in Chicago, check out the W. Eugene Smith--The Jazz Loft Project
>exhibition at the Chicago Cultural Center.   It's excellent. Jazz Fest was
>this weekend at Millennium Park.  We've had lovely weather for it.
>
>Flash with captions
>http://www.caguila.com/caguila/jazzfest
>
>HTML with exif info and captions
>http://www.caguila.com/caguila/jazzfest2

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RE: Not Suited for Work

[Bob W]

> 
> The wondrous things you see when you're young.  :-)  Enjoy!
> 
> http://www.caguila.com/caguila/snap/content/IMGP1385_large.html
> 
> Cheers, Christine

Lovely shot. Never saw anything like that when I was young. 




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Re: OT PC thingies

[mike wilson]

Adam Maas wrote:


I've priced this and you can almost always get a pre-built system
cheaper than a home-built system. It's been about a decade since
building your own was a good economic choice. The biggest reason to
build your own system is to get a specific parts selection, but you'll
pay at least 10% more that way. Used to build all my own stuff, now I
buy relatively barebones-spec HP's and upgrade RAM/HDD/Video and
sometimes CPU, saves me a fair bit over any other option.


Except... in my experience, the savings are usually made in things like 
power supplies or quality of memory chips, or cooling fans that quickly 
wear to sound like F16s.  In fact, anything that the manufacturer can 
get away without specifying exactly.  Not really savings at all.


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Re: Not Suited for Work

[Cotty]

On 5/9/10, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed:

>The wondrous things you see when you're young.  :-)  Enjoy!
>
>http://www.caguila.com/caguila/snap/content/IMGP1385_large.html
>
>Cheers, Christine

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PAW35 - V

[DagT]

Another one from some cold beach

http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/files/page7-1000-full.html
K20D, da*16-5...@16mm, 1/90s, f/9.5, ISO200

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Re: are you guys seeing this email?

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Yes yes yes
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Re: OT PC thingies

[steve harley]

On 2010-09-05 11:12 , Adam Maas wrote:


the OS is Unix. Do you mean the window manager?


That's something of a Myth. OS X is not actually Unix. It's a Mach
Microkernel running a BSD userspace alongside a separate but
integrated Carbon/Cocoa GUI userspace. [...]
You could actually rip out the BSD portion [...]



it is not a myth and your statement about ripping out BSD is not correct 
(the BSD user space is far from the whole story); the basic question is 
"what is Unix?", which can be answered on technical and practical levels


technically, Mac OS X is POSIX-compliant and its core OS (Darwin) is 
eligible for the Unix trademark (due to its Single Unix Specification 
certification); the kernel is not pure Mach, it also draws from BSD (so 
the BSD aspect is not just userspace), but most importantly the kernel 
supplies all the services a Unix system needs


quoting Apple (emphasis mine): "Darwin is the name given to the *FreeBSD 
environment that comprises the heart of Mac OS X*. FreeBSD is a variant 
of the Berkeley Software Distribution *UNIX* environment, which provides 
a secure and stable foundation for building software. Included in this 
layer are the kernel environment, device drivers, security support, 
interprocess communication support, and low-level commands and services 
*used by all programs on the system*."


practically, Mac OS X includes all the "Unix tools" which defined the 
Unix user experience and programmability as i learned them on a PDP 
11/45 (pre-X, pre-GNU); X11 is an optional install, but included with 
the OS; out of the box, one can ignore the GUI and roll out Mac OS X (or 
Darwin alone) as a server which, though not most people's first choice, 
is competent for most anything one might expect a Unix server to do





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RE: OT PC thingies

[J.C. O'Connell]

I think you can only move windows from one pc another if
you notify MS the first PC has died.

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On 2010-09-05 9:06, David J Brooks wrote:

> - I may have to buy a new computer. As much as i like my iBook, I may 
> just go with another PC, something along the lines of a mid range HP 
> or get one built, by a computer company that was highly recommended to 
> me for around $6-700

Personally, I'd go with either getting one built, or getting something 
other than an HP/Compaq.  I don't have a problem with HP/Compaq's 
hardware, but they chock the OS full of preloaded crap software that's 
difficult at best to get rid of.  Personally, I'll be getting a Toshiba 
next time for that very reason.

> - It will be used primarily for photos, conversions and prints. 
> Suggestions for a Video card would be helpful. The computer guy has a 
> number of cards for various applications and i would like to get this 
> right if i do this.

If you're not doing hard core gaming or video editing, most any video 
card will be just fine.  I recently got a motherboard plus AMD Phenom II 
955 3.2GHz quad core CPU for under $200 that also had a Radeon 4200 
graphics chip built in.  It's more than enough for what you want to do, 
plus it has video decoding and HDMI output for "home theater" sorts of 
uses.  I don't know if it would save any money, but you might want to 
consider nVidia Quadro based boards, since they're performance is 
optimized for 2D (normal applications) rather than 3D (gaming) applications.

> I still have my XP home disk and he has XP as well as Windows 7, but 
> everything i have is set up for XP so i probably will just use XP 
> again.

Is that a retail copy of XP or a copy that came installed on a computer? 
  I ask because technically, an OEM version that came preinstalled on a 
computer can't legally be moved to a different computer in most cases. 
You might end up having trouble with Windows Genuine Advantage if you 
try that.

> is my main concern, calibrating the monitor/video card for photos and 
> prints.

For the purposes you've described, the calibration will be a lot more 
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W. Eugene Smith Exhibition and Jazz Fest

[Christine Aguila]

Hi Everyone:

If you're in Chicago, check out the W. Eugene Smith--The Jazz Loft Project 
exhibition at the Chicago Cultural Center.   It's excellent. Jazz Fest was 
this weekend at Millennium Park.  We've had lovely weather for it.


Flash with captions
http://www.caguila.com/caguila/jazzfest

HTML with exif info and captions
http://www.caguila.com/caguila/jazzfest2

Comments welcome, Cheers, Christine


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Re: OT PC thingies

[steve harley]

On 2010-09-05 10:56 , Adam Maas wrote:

I'm talking Dell, HP, Toshiba and Lenovo here. Similar quality
components, sometimes better (HP for example uses Asus MB's on their
desktops, better quality boards than the Mac desktop boards aside from
the Mac Pro's). The components used in the non-Pro Mac's are nothing
special and some parts (desktop PSU's in particular) are inferior to
the standardized designs used in the PC world.


avoiding the general point, some high points on Mac components are 
batteries in current MacBooks and MacBooks Pro, and displays on current 
iMacs; also worth mentioning that the current Mini has an extremely low 
power draw



> Note Macs are poor hosts for OS's other than OS X or

Windows as well


how so? do you mean that virtualized OSs run more slowly, or what? i 
certainly get what i need running Win2000, XP & 7 plus various Ubuntu 
and CentOS VMs, so for my modest purposes i don't understand what you 
might mean by "poor host"



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Not Suited for Work

[Christine Aguila]

The wondrous things you see when you're young.  :-)  Enjoy!

http://www.caguila.com/caguila/snap/content/IMGP1385_large.html

Cheers, Christine

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Re: OT PC thingies

[Doug Franklin]

On 2010-09-05 9:06, David J Brooks wrote:


- I may have to buy a new computer. As much as i like my iBook, I may
just go with another PC, something along the lines of a mid range HP
or get one built, by a computer company that was highly recommended to
me for around $6-700


Personally, I'd go with either getting one built, or getting something 
other than an HP/Compaq.  I don't have a problem with HP/Compaq's 
hardware, but they chock the OS full of preloaded crap software that's 
difficult at best to get rid of.  Personally, I'll be getting a Toshiba 
next time for that very reason.



- It will be used primarily for photos, conversions and prints.
Suggestions for a Video card would be helpful. The computer guy has a
number of cards for various applications and i would like to get this
right if i do this.


If you're not doing hard core gaming or video editing, most any video 
card will be just fine.  I recently got a motherboard plus AMD Phenom II 
955 3.2GHz quad core CPU for under $200 that also had a Radeon 4200 
graphics chip built in.  It's more than enough for what you want to do, 
plus it has video decoding and HDMI output for "home theater" sorts of 
uses.  I don't know if it would save any money, but you might want to 
consider nVidia Quadro based boards, since they're performance is 
optimized for 2D (normal applications) rather than 3D (gaming) applications.



I still have my XP home disk and he has XP as well as Windows 7, but
everything i have is set up for XP so i probably will just use XP
again.


Is that a retail copy of XP or a copy that came installed on a computer? 
 I ask because technically, an OEM version that came preinstalled on a 
computer can't legally be moved to a different computer in most cases. 
You might end up having trouble with Windows Genuine Advantage if you 
try that.



is my main concern, calibrating the monitor/video card for photos and
prints.


For the purposes you've described, the calibration will be a lot more 
important than what video card you choose.


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Re: are you guys seeing this email?

[Bob Sullivan]

No, can't see it.
And the one with the Jazz fest shots was no good either. :-)
Regards,  Bob S.

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Re: are you guys seeing this email?

[Ralf R. Radermacher]

Christine  Aguila  wrote:

> test, test, test

Loud and clear.

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Re: are you guys seeing this email?

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Sees it. :-)

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are you guys seeing this email?

[Christine Aguila]

test, test, test

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Re: OT: Mighty Elmar

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Bob W  wrote:
> Good story! I may buy one of the pre-war bodies some day, to share the
> experience that people like HCB had. Chatting to the chap in the Leica
> dispensary he said that was one of the main reasons non-collectors buy this
> stuff.  Or because, like James Ravilious, they favour the particular look
> that the lenses had in those days.

It was an amazing moment. My father had a IIIf that was considered
sacred. Now I had my own Leica! Beat up, old, whatever, they worked
well and took great photos. Most of those photos are long lost now,
like a lot of the film I had in those days, but the cameras are a fond
memory.

What was nice about these old things was that they were simple, little
to distract you from the basics. I used them much the way I still
shoot today.

> that's right - Pied Bull Yard. Bloomsbury Square is through the yard behind
> where I was standing; the museum is about 100 yards away.

Great place. Is the camera shop that specialized in antiques and
collectibles still there?

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W. Eugene Smith exhibition and Jazz Fest

[Christine Aguila]

Hi Everyone:

If you're in Chicago, check out the W. Eugene Smith--The Jazz Loft Project 
exhibition at the Chicago Cultural Center.   It's excellent. Jazz Fest was 
this weekend at Millennium Park.  We've had lovely weather for it.


Flash with captions
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Comments welcome, Cheers, Christine


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RE: OT: Mighty Elmar

[Bob W]

[...]
> >
> > That's a 75-year-old lens on a 4-ish-year-old digital body. Very
> > tempting. I know of 3 others of this type that are available at the
> > moment, so I'm going to have a look at them during the week.
> 
> In 1969, ogling the stuff at Olden Camera in Manhattan for the thousandth
> time, the salesman finally got tired of me visiting there and not buying
> anything.
> 
> SM: "You gonna buy sometin or what?"
> ME: "I don't have much money."
> SM: "How much you got?"
> ME: "A hundred dollars."
> 
> He pulled out of a drawer a Leica IIc and a Leica IIf, one fitted with an
Elmar
> 3.5cm and the other an Elmar 5.0cm. "You get 'em both for $99 and have a
> buck for a pretzel left over. Nobody wants this old junk anymore."
> 

Good story! I may buy one of the pre-war bodies some day, to share the
experience that people like HCB had. Chatting to the chap in the Leica
dispensary he said that was one of the main reasons non-collectors buy this
stuff.  Or because, like James Ravilious, they favour the particular look
that the lenses had in those days.

> I bought them. The Elmar 3.5cm was that lens. A great lens. Loved those
> cameras. Used them until 1985, when the IIc was lost (the IIf had been
lost in
> 1978) but that's another story...
> 
> I see you're in the shopping courtyard across the way from the British
> Museum in that photo. I bought my Rollei 35S Classic Platinum at the Leica
> store there in 1996.

that's right - Pied Bull Yard. Bloomsbury Square is through the yard behind
where I was standing; the museum is about 100 yards away.

Bob


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Re: LR2 to LR3, a collection transfer problem

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Not sure I understand. LR3 when it converts an LR2 catalog should keep
all collections, including the Quick Collection, intact so it should
be sitting right there for you.

Do you mean the Quick Collection didn't import for some reason? Don't
know why that would be. I have 60 photos in my Quick Collection at
present, they are identical to what was in the Quick Collection in LR2
when I converted the catalog.

If you converted it to a regular collection inside LR2, just go to
that regular collection, select all, and hit B ... they'll all be in
the Quick Collection again.

Need more information to understand what the situation is.


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> A moved from LR2 to LR3 but I still have a little problem to sort.
> When I transfered my catalog, the Quick Collection (if that's the
> correct term in English) did get to LR3.
> I converted it to 'usual' collection, exported it as catalog to
> reimport into LR3 but LR3 won't import it because pictures are doubles
> (obviously).
> I understand why it acts like that but I only wants to have that
> collection back without having to look myself in LR2/LR3 and pick the
> images manually again.
>
> Is there any way to do this?
>
> Thank you.
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