RE: New zoom

[John Coyle]

No Dave, mine is the same!  A bit of sticky tape does the job in stopping it
from falling off.
Great lens otherwise - when travelling in Egypt, I used it for over 70% of
my shots.


John Coyle
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Subject: Re: New zoom

The 16-45 is my favorite lens, and it takes about 90% of my shots.

The only problem that I have is that the lens hood retaining tabs have worn
down enough that the hood will fall off if bumped.  It's the only lens where
this has happened though, so it may just be a fluke with mine.

On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 10:05 PM, steve harley  wrote:
> On 2010-11-22 16:11 , drd1...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Well, today my FA 20-35 took a tumble and now the focus is so tight 
>> the camera can't drive it.  aside from the K28, this was my widest 
>> lens. Still, I may replace is with a more modern zoom. What 
>> suggestions do you have, based on your experience.  I admit I find it 
>> increasingly difficult to keep swapping lenses in a travel situation.
>
> i'm really happy with my DA 16-45 f4; though of course i know the 
> 16-50 is more rugged (and heavier), and does f2.8, and probably 
> sharper, the 16-45 is the "good enough" lens for me; it's my default 
> lens, and takes probably 80% of my photos; i bought mine used 15 
> months ago and it has held up for 8000 photos, been knocked around and 
> used in mist/light rain many times without mishap
>
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Re: PESO - Her Audience

[Derby Chang]

On 23/11/2010 6:34 AM, frank theriault wrote:

On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 3:04 AM, Derby Chang  wrote:

The sweep of the three lumpy bumpy heads and the squirrel, the suggestive
curve of the hydrant pipe, the amused half smile of the gent...love it.

Oh, and the legs too

I think Erwitt low angle could be a great PUG theme, no?

I have to admit, I was thinking of you when I saw and shot the scene, Derby.

;-)



Gosh, thanks Frank, but I must exfoliate and tan my legs to get them 
looking as nice as hers.




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Re: My pictures for a music CD cover

[Boris Liberman]

What Frank said!

On 11/22/2010 9:44 PM, frank theriault wrote:

On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 3:30 AM, Dario Bonazza
  wrote:

Hi folks,

Some time ago I've been commissioned a shooting for a CD cover. Now that CD
has been released, and you can see the result here:
www.dariobonazza.com/published/EmblemaKeepOut.jpg
And no, the crocodile pic is not one of mine ;-)


Congrats on some excellent work!

cheers,
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Re: New zoom

[David Parsons]

The 16-45 is my favorite lens, and it takes about 90% of my shots.

The only problem that I have is that the lens hood retaining tabs have
worn down enough that the hood will fall off if bumped.  It's the only
lens where this has happened though, so it may just be a fluke with
mine.

On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 10:05 PM, steve harley  wrote:
> On 2010-11-22 16:11 , drd1...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Well, today my FA 20-35 took a tumble and now the focus is so tight the
>> camera can't drive it.  aside from the K28, this was my widest lens. Still,
>> I may replace is with a more modern zoom. What suggestions do you have,
>> based on your experience.  I admit I find it increasingly difficult to keep
>> swapping lenses in a travel situation.
>
> i'm really happy with my DA 16-45 f4; though of course i know the 16-50 is
> more rugged (and heavier), and does f2.8, and probably sharper, the 16-45 is
> the "good enough" lens for me; it's my default lens, and takes probably 80%
> of my photos; i bought mine used 15 months ago and it has held up for 8000
> photos, been knocked around and used in mist/light rain many times without
> mishap
>
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Re: OT - Home Theater Advice?

[Boris Liberman]

My setup is this, John:

NAD 320 for amplifier
A pair of Mission M71s for speakers
Pioneer 575 for the player.

The sound quality is good (to my ears), the resilience of this system is 
outstanding. It has already survived Galia and it is likely to survive 
Anat. There was a period of time when Galia would watch movies from 
DVD/VCD at least couple of hours every day. So far so good.


I don't fancy modern multi-speaker arrangement, mostly because I rent a 
flat and moving such a thing will be major PITA. The simple system such 
as this is easy to move and I find it totally satisfactory. Whichever 
part breaks down, I am likely to start looking for replacement simply by 
finding out what NAD, Mission or Pioneer have to offer in the same 
spec/price/market category.


HTH.

Boris

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Re: New zoom

[Boris Liberman]

On 11/23/2010 1:11 AM, drd1...@gmail.com wrote:

Well, today my FA 20-35 took a tumble and now the focus is so tight
the camera can't drive it.  aside from the K28, this was my widest
lens. Still, I may replace is with a more modern zoom. What
suggestions do you have, based on your experience.  I admit I find it
increasingly difficult to keep swapping lenses in a travel
situation.



It really depends on the monetary constraints. What comes to mind that 
seemingly wasn't mentioned or mentioned briefly is:


1. Sigma 24-60/2.8 - not as wide, but faster with very good sharpness 
and bokeh. Downsize - somewhat different colors and big filters. Beware 
of sample variation and back/front focus issues. Mine requires -7 focus 
correction with the K-7.


2. DA 16-45/4 - compared directly with your FA 20-35 by photozone. I 
don't have one, but whenever I borrowed one from fellow PDMLers it came 
out really good.


3. Sigma 17-70/2.8-4.5 or 17-70/2.8-4.0. I tried the former when Jaume 
came to Israel and it was surprisingly good.


4. DA 17-70/4 SDM - successor of DA 16-45 in a sense. SDM is either an 
issue or a non-issue for you.


5. Tamron 17-50/2.8 - cheap alternative to DA* 16-50/2.8. But the IQ is 
anything but cheap. Actually it is very good judging from what I've seen 
from the same lens for Canon mount that my friends have.


6. FA 24-90/3.5-4.5 - wobbly build, good optics. With this one you'd 
loose a bit on the wide end but gain seriously on the long end.


HTH.

Boris

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Re: Boris PESO #53 - Megadrive

[Boris Liberman]

On 11/22/2010 9:52 PM, frank theriault wrote:

Have no idea why, but I really like this one.  The blue cover on the
bike lock chain makes it.  And the composition, of course - it's
terrific.

Wonderful shot, Boris.


For the record, this was the second shot of the series of two :-). And I 
can always 'blame' it on the fact that Sigma 24-60/2.8 have very smooth 
bokeh for the common purpose fast zoom lens.


Boris

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Re: Boris Peso #52 - Evening walk

[Boris Liberman]

On 11/22/2010 10:13 PM, frank theriault wrote:

On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Boris Liberman  wrote:
Lovely mood.  And I like the bike, too.

;-)

Seriously, this is a terrific shot.  Looks like a warm summer evening.
  We got a brief snow flurry yesterday (not enough to leave any on the
ground, but there was a bit of snow in the air).  I miss warm summer
evenings - your photo is very evocative.


Thanks, Frank. Our long term weather forecast is grim. Some say no 
serious rain until February. But for tourism this would be perfect 
weather - dry, warm, very pleasant air indeed.


Boris

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Re: Peso - another zoo shot

[Nick David Wright]

Very nice. Not usually a fan of zoo shots, but this is excellent.

On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 11:17 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
> this from today...
>
> it was beautiful out here, and I finally felt limber enough to carry the
> camera... no tripod tho...
> hoping still to get a beastie calendar ready over the next week or so... I
> headed to a little zoo in Brooklyn
> I'd never been to before...
>
> Mostly, I struck out.. needed that tripod or higher ISO .  missed totally on
> red panda shots because of auto focus that I trusted and shouldnt ahve.
>
> but I kinda like this one:
>
> http://annsan.smugmug.com/Works-in-Print/Works-In-Progress/Critters/14740904_qL7Eb/1/1101312771_kjEuR/Large
>
> ann
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Peso - another zoo shot

[Ann Sanfedele]

this from today...

it was beautiful out here, and I finally felt limber enough to carry the 
camera... no tripod tho...
hoping still to get a beastie calendar ready over the next week or so... 
I headed to a little zoo in Brooklyn

I'd never been to before...

Mostly, I struck out.. needed that tripod or higher ISO .  missed 
totally on red panda shots because of auto focus that I trusted and 
shouldnt ahve.


but I kinda like this one:

http://annsan.smugmug.com/Works-in-Print/Works-In-Progress/Critters/14740904_qL7Eb/1/1101312771_kjEuR/Large

ann


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Re: PAW46 - Dog

[Ann Sanfedele]

DagT wrote:


http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/files/page7-1000-full.html
K20D, DA*55mm, 1/125s, f/2, ISO200 


DagT
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nice one -
where were you when you uh spotted him?

:-)
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Re: PESO - Parsnip, Ginger and Orange Soup

[Ann Sanfedele]

frank theriault wrote:


It tasted damned good:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/11/parsnip-ginger-and-orange-soup.html

I enjoyed every drop.  Hope you enjoy seeing it.

;-)

Comments welcome.

cheers,
frank



 

nice food shot -- I hate my food shots but Like my recipes  and this 
look s good, too.


ann



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OT: Smash His Camera documentary

[David Parsons]

For anyone who has Netflix, this is a fascinating documentary about
infamous paparazzo Ron Galella and his career chasing celebrities.

http://movies.netflix.com/WiMovie/Smash-His-Camera/70129362?trkid=153#height2000

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Re: Stochastic photography

[David Parsons]

I use an A clamp from Home Depot.  The big green ones already have a
hole in the handles.  Put a 1/4-20 bolt through the hole with a nut
and washer and put your ball head on that.  Costs about $2.

It's very similar to a Justin Clamp that costs $25.

On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 4:28 PM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
> Other alternative is a 'Vise-Grip' pliers with a bolt or two braised onto 
> them.
> You then put a small ball head on the bolt and the Vise-Grip onto anything.
> Regards,  Bob S.
>
> On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Walter Gilbert  wrote:
>>  Thanks for the input!  I think I may have come up with the best option -- a
>> sort of reverse monopod.
>>
>> A 1/4" bolt through a length of lightweight chain.  Run the bolt through one
>> end of the chain (making sure the link is smaller than the head of the bolt)
>> -- screw into the camera, step on the other end of the chain and pull it
>> tight while shooting.
>>
>> It'll provide a fair amount of stability, and when not being used, can be
>> carried in a pocket.
>>
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert
>> http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ 
>> Contact Me Facebook Flickr
>> Twitter
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>>
>> --- @ WiseStamp Signature
>> .
>> Get it now
>> 
>> On 11/22/2010 3:05 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:
>>>
>>> On 23 November 2010 07:16, DagT  wrote:
>>>
 I usually start by walk around or looking at the subject, trying to find
 out what caught my interest, visualizing how the picture could be, and then
 start photographing. Even then I tend to take few pictures, sometimes only
 one. No tripod, even when using large format, because it removes the
 flexibility and slows down the reactions.
>>>
>>> I realised many years ago though inspection of my slides at high mag
>>> that tripods apart from often reducing the amount of often useful
>>> experimentation in composition aren't the be all and end all to obtain
>>> optimal sharpness either, especially when working with WA lenses in
>>> good light.
>>>
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Re: PESO: Pigeon Point Light

[Jack Davis]

Thanks for commenting. When I use the term "Blue Bird Day" I mean one that's 
bright and sunny with pleasant comfortable weather. Glorious in all respects. 
Can't speak for anyone else.

Jack

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> From: steve harley 
> Subject: Re: PESO: Pigeon Point Light
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Monday, November 22, 2010, 7:24 PM
> On 2010-11-18 15:55 , Jack Davis
> wrote:
> > Was reworking some old files and decided to get a new
> scan of this northern California light. Shot, obviously, on
> a Blue Bird day sometime in the early 80's(?)
> > Just offered it to PPG.
> 
> a pleasant, evocative image; is a blue bird day something
> like a "bumblebee day"? on Sagadahoc Bay in my youth on a
> perfectly clear day one was said to be able to distinguish
> bumblebees on Seguin Island, site of another evocative
> lighthouse, about 5 miles offshore
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Re: Stochastic photography

[Walter Gilbert]

On 11/22/2010 9:15 PM, Rick Womer wrote:


--- On Mon, 11/22/10, Bob Sullivan  wrote:



Other alternative is a 'Vise-Grip'
pliers with a bolt or two braised onto them.

Now you're cookin'...

Agreed.  A real-world baste solution if I ever saw one.

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Re: Stochastic photography

[Rick Womer]

--- On Mon, 11/22/10, Bob Sullivan  wrote:


> Other alternative is a 'Vise-Grip'
> pliers with a bolt or two braised onto them.

Now you're cookin'...


  

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Re: PESO: Pigeon Point Light

[steve harley]

On 2010-11-18 15:55 , Jack Davis wrote:

Was reworking some old files and decided to get a new scan of this northern 
California light. Shot, obviously, on a Blue Bird day sometime in the early 
80's(?)
Just offered it to PPG.


a pleasant, evocative image; is a blue bird day something like a 
"bumblebee day"? on Sagadahoc Bay in my youth on a perfectly clear day 
one was said to be able to distinguish bumblebees on Seguin Island, site 
of another evocative lighthouse, about 5 miles offshore


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Re: New zoom

[paul stenquist]

On Nov 22, 2010, at 10:05 PM, steve harley wrote:

> On 2010-11-22 16:11 , drd1...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Well, today my FA 20-35 took a tumble and now the focus is so tight the 
>> camera can't drive it.  aside from the K28, this was my widest lens. Still, 
>> I may replace is with a more modern zoom. What suggestions do you have, 
>> based on your experience.  I admit I find it increasingly difficult to keep 
>> swapping lenses in a travel situation.
> 
> i'm really happy with my DA 16-45 f4; though of course i know the 16-50 is 
> more rugged (and heavier), and does f2.8, and probably sharper, the 16-45 is 
> the "good enough" lens for me; it's my default lens, and takes probably 80% 
> of my photos; i bought mine used 15 months ago and it has held up for 8000 
> photos, been knocked around and used in mist/light rain many times without 
> mishap
> 
I agree. The 16-45 is a very good lens for the money. I shot with it for about 
a year before i bought the 16-50 and found it quite capable. You give up a stop 
and the build quality isn't on a par with the more expensive lens, but the 
image quality is definitely pleasing.
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Re: PESO - Parsnip, Ginger and Orange Soup

[steve harley]

On 2010-11-22 18:32 , frank theriault wrote:

It tasted damned good:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/11/parsnip-ginger-and-orange-soup.html

I enjoyed every drop.  Hope you enjoy seeing it.


yum, makes me hungry to look at though i haven't been able to keep 
anything down all day


i read a blog called Ideas in Food, which regularly challenges my 
assumptions about food, and also has nice simple photography




(i ignore the meat entries, or read them for non-meat ideas)

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Re: New zoom

[steve harley]

On 2010-11-22 16:11 , drd1...@gmail.com wrote:

Well, today my FA 20-35 took a tumble and now the focus is so tight the camera 
can't drive it.  aside from the K28, this was my widest lens. Still, I may 
replace is with a more modern zoom. What suggestions do you have, based on your 
experience.  I admit I find it increasingly difficult to keep swapping lenses 
in a travel situation.


i'm really happy with my DA 16-45 f4; though of course i know the 16-50 
is more rugged (and heavier), and does f2.8, and probably sharper, the 
16-45 is the "good enough" lens for me; it's my default lens, and takes 
probably 80% of my photos; i bought mine used 15 months ago and it has 
held up for 8000 photos, been knocked around and used in mist/light rain 
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Re: PESO: For Baseball Fans

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Not really.  Ruth was far much more immoderate in his habits than were
his opponents.  Had he just remaine

d as sober as the average major leaguer of his time, he would have
been a much better player.

Dan

On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 6:37 PM, Bob W  wrote:
>>
>> It is hard to imagine what Ruth could have done with modern training
>> methods, or even if he just moderated his heavy smoking, eating and
>> drinking (even in the dugout).  Ruth on steroids?  Incredible Hulk, move 
>> over.
>>
>
> his opponents would have benefitted from the same training methods, so it 
> probably wouldn't have made much difference.
>
> B
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PESO - Parsnip, Ginger and Orange Soup

[frank theriault]

It tasted damned good:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/11/parsnip-ginger-and-orange-soup.html

I enjoyed every drop.  Hope you enjoy seeing it.

;-)

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Re: New zoom

[Jeffery Smith]

Gaaa! (mustbuyglass.)


On Nov 22, 2010, at 7:22 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

> Get the glass. Bodies may come and go, but lenses are forever. :-)
> 
> I have a 16-50 and it's really great, especially paired to the 50-135.
> 
> -bmw
> 
> 
> On 10-11-22 7:42 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote:
>> And the 16-50 goes all the way up to where the 50-135 can take over, so 
>> those two lenses can cover most situations admirably. I have the 50-135, and 
>> the 16-50 was going to be my next wanna-have, until Pentax complicated the 
>> situation with the K-5 introduction.
>> 
>> Jeffery
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 22, 2010, at 6:23 PM, paul stenquist wrote:
>> 
>>> On Nov 22, 2010, at 6:29 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote:
>>> 
 Based on the reviews I've read, I would concur with Paul. I would love to 
 have either lens.
 
 Jeffery
 
>>> BTW, while I like both lenses, I find the 16-50 much more useful. The wide 
>>> end is adequate for most situations, and with a range all the way up to 
>>> what amounts to short telephoto, it's a great all-purpose lens.
>>> Paul
>>> 
 On Nov 22, 2010, at 5:19 PM, paul stenquist wrote:
 
> The DA* 16-50/2.8 is terrific. Some early samples had element alignment 
> problems, but that seems to have been resolved. The DA 12-24 is also very 
> good.
> Paul
> 
> On Nov 22, 2010, at 6:11 PM, drd1...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
>> Well, today my FA 20-35 took a tumble and now the focus is so tight the 
>> camera can't drive it.  aside from the K28, this was my widest lens. 
>> Still, I may replace is with a more modern zoom. What suggestions do you 
>> have, based on your experience.  I admit I find it increasingly 
>> difficult to keep swapping lenses in a travel situation.
>> 
> 
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Re: PESO: Funny street names

[John Mullan]

Here in Cincinnati there are parallel streets Homer Ave and Simpson Ave.  In 
Santa Rosa California three streets in parallel and in order Leland, 
Stanford and Junior.


jm

-Original Message- 
From: Ralf R. Radermacher

Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 6:20 PM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: PESO: Funny street names

Nothing artistic really, but two streets in Liège, Belgium:

The "Cul-de-sac of the Future" (a private cul-de-sac, as the panel
second photo says) and "Mousehole Street".

http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com/2010/11/in-luttich-steckt-die-zuku
nft-in-der.html

More funny street name pics, anyone?

Pics taken with pentax equipment, of course. :-)

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Re: New zoom

[Bruce Walker]

Get the glass. Bodies may come and go, but lenses are forever. :-)

I have a 16-50 and it's really great, especially paired to the 50-135.

-bmw


On 10-11-22 7:42 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote:

And the 16-50 goes all the way up to where the 50-135 can take over, so those 
two lenses can cover most situations admirably. I have the 50-135, and the 
16-50 was going to be my next wanna-have, until Pentax complicated the 
situation with the K-5 introduction.

Jeffery


On Nov 22, 2010, at 6:23 PM, paul stenquist wrote:


On Nov 22, 2010, at 6:29 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote:


Based on the reviews I've read, I would concur with Paul. I would love to have 
either lens.

Jeffery


BTW, while I like both lenses, I find the 16-50 much more useful. The wide end 
is adequate for most situations, and with a range all the way up to what 
amounts to short telephoto, it's a great all-purpose lens.
Paul


On Nov 22, 2010, at 5:19 PM, paul stenquist wrote:


The DA* 16-50/2.8 is terrific. Some early samples had element alignment 
problems, but that seems to have been resolved. The DA 12-24 is also very good.
Paul

On Nov 22, 2010, at 6:11 PM, drd1...@gmail.com wrote:


Well, today my FA 20-35 took a tumble and now the focus is so tight the camera 
can't drive it.  aside from the K28, this was my widest lens. Still, I may 
replace is with a more modern zoom. What suggestions do you have, based on your 
experience.  I admit I find it increasingly difficult to keep swapping lenses 
in a travel situation.




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Re: Peso: critter

[Ann Sanfedele]

Theodore Beilby wrote:

Ann I like this shot. It seems to give an idea of personality to the snake. I 
just wonder if the color might be a little muted. 


Ted

 

Well,  I was shooting through glass... hmm I'm not sure if you are 
saying you think the color is less intense than

the snake would be up close and personal or the opposite...

All I can say is that in firefox and photoshop the color seems right to 
me... or, at least, I like it :-)


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Re: New zoom

[Jeffery Smith]

And the 16-50 goes all the way up to where the 50-135 can take over, so those 
two lenses can cover most situations admirably. I have the 50-135, and the 
16-50 was going to be my next wanna-have, until Pentax complicated the 
situation with the K-5 introduction. 

Jeffery


On Nov 22, 2010, at 6:23 PM, paul stenquist wrote:

> 
> On Nov 22, 2010, at 6:29 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote:
> 
>> Based on the reviews I've read, I would concur with Paul. I would love to 
>> have either lens.
>> 
>> Jeffery
>> 
> BTW, while I like both lenses, I find the 16-50 much more useful. The wide 
> end is adequate for most situations, and with a range all the way up to what 
> amounts to short telephoto, it's a great all-purpose lens. 
> Paul
> 
>> On Nov 22, 2010, at 5:19 PM, paul stenquist wrote:
>> 
>>> The DA* 16-50/2.8 is terrific. Some early samples had element alignment 
>>> problems, but that seems to have been resolved. The DA 12-24 is also very 
>>> good.
>>> Paul
>>> 
>>> On Nov 22, 2010, at 6:11 PM, drd1...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> 
 Well, today my FA 20-35 took a tumble and now the focus is so tight the 
 camera can't drive it.  aside from the K28, this was my widest lens. 
 Still, I may replace is with a more modern zoom. What suggestions do you 
 have, based on your experience.  I admit I find it increasingly difficult 
 to keep swapping lenses in a travel situation. 
 
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Re: New zoom

[paul stenquist]

On Nov 22, 2010, at 6:29 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote:

> Based on the reviews I've read, I would concur with Paul. I would love to 
> have either lens.
> 
> Jeffery
> 
BTW, while I like both lenses, I find the 16-50 much more useful. The wide end 
is adequate for most situations, and with a range all the way up to what 
amounts to short telephoto, it's a great all-purpose lens. 
Paul

> On Nov 22, 2010, at 5:19 PM, paul stenquist wrote:
> 
>> The DA* 16-50/2.8 is terrific. Some early samples had element alignment 
>> problems, but that seems to have been resolved. The DA 12-24 is also very 
>> good.
>> Paul
>> 
>> On Nov 22, 2010, at 6:11 PM, drd1...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>>> Well, today my FA 20-35 took a tumble and now the focus is so tight the 
>>> camera can't drive it.  aside from the K28, this was my widest lens. Still, 
>>> I may replace is with a more modern zoom. What suggestions do you have, 
>>> based on your experience.  I admit I find it increasingly difficult to keep 
>>> swapping lenses in a travel situation. 
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RE: PESO: Funny street names

[Bob W]

> Nothing artistic really, but two streets in Liège, Belgium:
> 
> The "Cul-de-sac of the Future" (a private cul-de-sac, as the panel second
> photo says) and "Mousehole Street".
> 

there's a whole town in England called Mousehole.

> http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com/2010/11/in-luttich-steckt-die-zuku
> nft-in-der.html
> 
> More funny street name pics, anyone?

OK. In a lot of older British towns you may chance upon a street with a name
like Grape Lane. Not funny in itself, but you should know that in days of
yore it was almost certainly where the town prozzers plied their carnal
trade. Streets tended to be named for the trade that took place there, and
in the City of London we still have Ironmongers Row, Poultry, Fish Street,
Cowcross Lane (where the cattle going to Smithfield market crossed the river
Fleet) and so on. Indeed, as you might expect from the greatest metropolis
on earth, we had a whole bunch of Grape Lanes.

The name Grape Lane was changed during more prudish times from its
Anglo-Saxon original. People of a sensitive disposition may wish to refrain
from reading this link:
< http://tinyurl.com/turpisvicus>

B


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Re: About EVFs and football (soccer) stars

[Miserere]

On 22 November 2010 18:25, Bob W  wrote:
>> Hi there,
>> I have finally been able to test a proper Electronic Viewfinder, the
> Panasonic
>> Lumix G2's specifically.
> [...]
>>
>> So, what about football?
>> While I was testing the G2 I suddenly changed the place where I was
> pointing
>> at and then my VF was filled (the camera had a telezoom mounted) with a
>> very well known face. Actually, some people at the store was asking to
> take a
>> picture with him...he was the current world's best football player !!!
>> Knowing that I live in Barcelona, those of you who know a bit about
> football
>> won't have any trouble guessing his name...
>> ;-)
>
> it all sounds a bit messy to me.
>
> B

I'm sure Ron'll do some cleaning up if you let him.


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RE: PESO: For Baseball Fans

[Bob W]

> 
> It is hard to imagine what Ruth could have done with modern training
> methods, or even if he just moderated his heavy smoking, eating and
> drinking (even in the dugout).  Ruth on steroids?  Incredible Hulk, move over.
> 

his opponents would have benefitted from the same training methods, so it 
probably wouldn't have made much difference.

B


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RE: OT - Home Theater Advice?

[Bob W]

[...]
> A friend of mine is a true audiophile. He's been collecting the greatest
> recordings he can find of his favorite operas, music and movies for years.
But
> he can't decide on what equipment is the best, can't afford the expensive
> stuff, so mostly he just dusts his collection occasionally and fantasizes
how
> nice it will sound when he finally decides what equipment to buy.
> 
> ..."Equipment often gets in the way of Photography."... applies broadly.
;-)

there's a lot to be said for cholesteatoma...

B


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Re: New zoom

[Jeffery Smith]

Based on the reviews I've read, I would concur with Paul. I would love to have 
either lens.

Jeffery

On Nov 22, 2010, at 5:19 PM, paul stenquist wrote:

> The DA* 16-50/2.8 is terrific. Some early samples had element alignment 
> problems, but that seems to have been resolved. The DA 12-24 is also very 
> good.
> Paul
> 
> On Nov 22, 2010, at 6:11 PM, drd1...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
>> Well, today my FA 20-35 took a tumble and now the focus is so tight the 
>> camera can't drive it.  aside from the K28, this was my widest lens. Still, 
>> I may replace is with a more modern zoom. What suggestions do you have, 
>> based on your experience.  I admit I find it increasingly difficult to keep 
>> swapping lenses in a travel situation. 
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RE: About EVFs and football (soccer) stars

[Bob W]

> Hi there,
> I have finally been able to test a proper Electronic Viewfinder, the
Panasonic
> Lumix G2's specifically.
[...]
> 
> So, what about football?
> While I was testing the G2 I suddenly changed the place where I was
pointing
> at and then my VF was filled (the camera had a telezoom mounted) with a
> very well known face. Actually, some people at the store was asking to
take a
> picture with him...he was the current world's best football player !!!
> Knowing that I live in Barcelona, those of you who know a bit about
football
> won't have any trouble guessing his name...
> ;-)

it all sounds a bit messy to me.

B


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PESO: Funny street names

[Ralf R. Radermacher]

Nothing artistic really, but two streets in Liège, Belgium:

The "Cul-de-sac of the Future" (a private cul-de-sac, as the panel
second photo says) and "Mousehole Street".

http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com/2010/11/in-luttich-steckt-die-zuku
nft-in-der.html

More funny street name pics, anyone?

Pics taken with pentax equipment, of course. :-)

Ralf

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Re: New zoom

[paul stenquist]

The DA* 16-50/2.8 is terrific. Some early samples had element alignment 
problems, but that seems to have been resolved. The DA 12-24 is also very good.
Paul

On Nov 22, 2010, at 6:11 PM, drd1...@gmail.com wrote:

> Well, today my FA 20-35 took a tumble and now the focus is so tight the 
> camera can't drive it.  aside from the K28, this was my widest lens. Still, I 
> may replace is with a more modern zoom. What suggestions do you have, based 
> on your experience.  I admit I find it increasingly difficult to keep 
> swapping lenses in a travel situation. 
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New zoom

[drd1135]

Well, today my FA 20-35 took a tumble and now the focus is so tight the camera 
can't drive it.  aside from the K28, this was my widest lens. Still, I may 
replace is with a more modern zoom. What suggestions do you have, based on your 
experience.  I admit I find it increasingly difficult to keep swapping lenses 
in a travel situation. 

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About EVFs and football (soccer) stars

[Jaume Lahuerta]

Hi there,
I have finally been able to test a proper Electronic Viewfinder, the Panasonic 
Lumix G2's specifically.
Since some of you suggested that this one showed the state of the art in this 
field, I visited a well known Spanish department stores that normally show 
cameras with charged batteries inside.
I have to admit that I am impressed with the G2 EVF: big, clear, low lag even 
in 
an artificial light environment...My EVF allergy diminished dramatically in a 
few minutes. I also had the chance to compare it side by side to the G10 EVF 
(which I had previously tested) and the difference is amazing.

I tried t test the Samsung NX but this one had no batteries.

So...although I am totally sold to the K-5 and its multiple improvements and 
starting to save for it...I may wait until spring and see what Pentax has to 
say 
on EVIL land (as you know I am not too fond on the m4/3 concept as opposed to 
'mAPS-C'). With this test I can imagine myself actually using one of these 
cameras.

So, what about football?
While I was testing the G2 I suddenly changed the place where I was pointing at 
and then my VF was filled (the camera had a telezoom mounted) with a very well 
known face. Actually, some people at the store was asking to take a picture 
with 
him...he was the current world's best football player !!!
Knowing that I live in Barcelona, those of you who know a bit about football 
won't have any trouble guessing his name...
;-)

Regards,
Jaume



  

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Re: OT - Home Theater Advice?

[paul stenquist]

I'm no audiophile but I like good sound. I have a nice system I put together 
almost ten years ago. It has a 550 watt Pioneer 5.1 receiver with four Polk 
towers, a Polk center speaker and a Velodyne subwoofer. Watching football I've 
sometimes been able to make out the conversations of people "sitting behind 
me." Fun stuff. Music is strictly from CDs, and of course I switch it over to 
stereo. Sounds good to my uneducated ear. Would love to play with vinyl and a 
good turntable just for grins, but I'm through spending.

On Nov 22, 2010, at 4:59 PM, Doug Franklin wrote:

> On 2010-11-22 13:30, John Celio wrote:
>> I know there are a lot of tech-heads here, so I hope y'all don't mind my
>> asking such an off-topic question.  Please feel free to reply off-list.
> 
> Mine's pretty simple.  Computer and game console and DirecTV receiver all 
> feed an A/V Receiver.  It feeds a 5.1 speaker system and a TV display.  It's 
> really pretty simple but the number of cables can get overwhelming in some 
> cases.
> 
> The DirecTV box (or cable box, I'd suspect) goes into the receiver over HDMI.
> 
> The TV comes out of the receiver over HDMI.  I don't use the TV audio, but it 
> comes out of the receiver on the same HDMI cable.
> 
> The computer video goes into the receiver on HDMI, and the audio goes in on 
> optical, due to limitations in the hardware in the computer. Theoretically, 
> this should be doable with only the HDMI cable.
> 
> The game console goes into the receiver as RCA video plus optical audio.
> 
> The CD player goes into the receiver as optical.
> 
> The computer has a second video out that goes to a dedicated 23" display so I 
> can dink with things on the computer while the A/V outputs are on some other 
> source.
> 
> -- 
> Thanks,
> DougF (KG4LMZ)
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Re: PAW46 - Dog

[DagT]

Thanks all of you for nice and funny comments .-)

DagT
http://www.thrane.name



Den 22. nov. 2010 kl. 22.21 skrev Daniel J. Matyola:

> He had to wait for a paws in the action, though.
> 
> Dan
> 
> On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Stan Halpin
>  wrote:
>> 
>> On Nov 22, 2010, at 4:09 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
>> 
>>> Dag, Well spotted!  Regards,  Bob S.
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 1:44 PM, DagT  wrote:
 http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/files/page7-1000-full.html
 K20D, DA*55mm, 1/125s, f/2, ISO200
 
>> I think he just sniffed out the opportunity.
>> 
>> stan


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Re: PAW46 - Dog

[DagT]

Den 22. nov. 2010 kl. 22.08 skrev Cotty:

> On 22/11/10, DagT, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
>> http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/files/page7-1000-full.html
>> K20D, DA*55mm, 1/125s, f/2, ISO200
> 
> That's not Berlin by any chance?

It is. Great and important monument, although the pictures didn´t show much of 
that.

DagT

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Re: PESO: Snow Geese

[Jack Davis]

Thanks, Dan! I agree with you. Third one is my choice also. Today I stayed in 
the rig for all but a couple minutes. Got out at one point to catch some 
overhead shots. The sun roof works too..if I think to open it.

Jack


--- On Mon, 11/22/10, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:

> From: Daniel J. Matyola 
> Subject: Re: PESO: Snow Geese
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Monday, November 22, 2010, 1:19 PM
> Wonderful images, Jack!
> The third image is my favorite, because of the amazing
> amount of detail.
> 
> Thanks for freezing and sharing the results so we don't
> have to freeze.
> 
> Dan
> 
> On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 3:55 PM, Jack Davis 
> wrote:
> > Visited Gray Lodge again this AM. The Snow Geese are
> finally in and in staggering numbers. Did the typical flock
> shooting and am offering three  Representative grabs. I
> have a lot of editing yet to do and may offer a couple
> more..someday.
> > I should go for a "hide", but haven't had the urge to
> get out there at dawn when the temps are sinking and the
> wind picking up. One advantage of this degrading weather,
> however, is the absence of mosquitoes.
> >
> > Jack
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Re: Peso's Two from the photo lesson Saturday

[David J Brooks]

Thanks Frank and Paul

Dave

On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 2:46 PM, frank theriault
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> On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 11:49 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
>> In between lessons, i managed to get a few photos on the farm walk.
>>
>> The stare
>>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11983811
>>
>> Wagon and pond:
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11983812
>>
>> I took a few shots with the partial sun reflecting off the pond but
>> i',m not very happy with them. This is one area i find the Pentax does
>> a better job than the Nikon in metering in this kind of light.,
>>
>> D200, 80-200 F2.8. Comments welcome.
>
> They're both terrific shots, but The Stare is particularly compelling.
>  I probably shouldn't, but I really like the branch with the dead
> leaves in the upper right hand corner.  That expressive equine face is
> amazing!
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Re: Peso's Two from the photo lesson Saturday

[David J Brooks]

On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> "Stare" elicited a grin. "Wagon and Pond", is very close. The heavy tree 
> tangle detracts some. As you point out, it is somewhat dark which, obviously, 
> inhibits separating the wagon from the background.
> I'm certain my comments didn't identify anything you weren't keenly aware of, 
> David.
>
> Jack

Ya I know.;-) I shot about 10-12 frames and i was getting to much or
not enough light. This one seemed to have the most to work with. Since
I know the owner, re shoots can be obtained.

Dave
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>
> --- On Mon, 11/22/10, David J Brooks  wrote:
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>> From: David J Brooks 
>> Subject: Re: Peso's Two from the photo lesson Saturday
>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>> Date: Monday, November 22, 2010, 7:08 AM
>> On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 1:41 AM,
>> Larry Colen 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > On Nov 21, 2010, at 8:49 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
>> >
>> >> In between lessons, i managed to get a few photos
>> on the farm walk.
>> >>
>> >> The stare
>> >>
>> >> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11983811
>> >
>> > I really like this one.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Wagon and pond:
>> >> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11983812
>> >
>> > It looks a bit dark on my monitor.
>>
>> Ya, i have trouble with this one.
>> >
>> > But how did the photos your students took turn out?
>>
>> No posts yet. Looking at their LCD screens, pretty good.
>> One student
>> had focus issues, and once i realized she had the focus set
>> up for
>> auto, the camera was picking the "best" quess, and set it
>> on single
>> point centre her comment was that now, even in the LCD
>> monitor, they
>> looked a lot sharper.
>>
>>
>> Dave
>> >
>> >>
>> >> I took a few shots with the partial sun reflecting
>> off the pond but
>> >> i',m not very happy with them. This is one area i
>> find the Pentax does
>> >> a better job than the Nikon in metering in this
>> kind of light.,
>> >>
>> >> D200, 80-200 F2.8. Comments welcome.
>> >>
>> >> Dave
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picked up a rare item today

[Collin Brendemuehl]

It's the metal friction-mount hood for the Takumar 28/3.5.
In case.  Pretty clean.
Anyone interested?

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Re: ATTN: Participants in past PDML Photo Annuals

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On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
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> On Nov 22, 2010, at 7:02 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
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>> On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 6:54 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
>>> If you've got any exhibits, books, or acclaim you'd like the world to
>>> know about, send me an email and I'll put a note on the PDML Photo
>>> Annual Facebook page.
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>> I can now tell my right shoe from my left.
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> That'll be very handy once you learn to tell your left foot from your other 
> left foot.

Working on it.

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Re: OT - Home Theater Advice?

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On 2010-11-22 13:30, John Celio wrote:

I know there are a lot of tech-heads here, so I hope y'all don't mind my
asking such an off-topic question.  Please feel free to reply off-list.


Mine's pretty simple.  Computer and game console and DirecTV receiver 
all feed an A/V Receiver.  It feeds a 5.1 speaker system and a TV 
display.  It's really pretty simple but the number of cables can get 
overwhelming in some cases.


The DirecTV box (or cable box, I'd suspect) goes into the receiver over 
HDMI.


The TV comes out of the receiver over HDMI.  I don't use the TV audio, 
but it comes out of the receiver on the same HDMI cable.


The computer video goes into the receiver on HDMI, and the audio goes in 
on optical, due to limitations in the hardware in the computer. 
Theoretically, this should be doable with only the HDMI cable.


The game console goes into the receiver as RCA video plus optical audio.

The CD player goes into the receiver as optical.

The computer has a second video out that goes to a dedicated 23" display 
so I can dink with things on the computer while the A/V outputs are on 
some other source.


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Re: OT - Home Theater Advice?

[Paul Ewins]

We've got a relatively new set up - Denon Amp and Polk speakers - and the first 
bit of advice is that you absolutely need a centre speaker. We haven't bothered 
with rear speakers but without the centre speaker you lose a lot of dialogue. 
The same setup is used for audio and the sound quality is fine but the remote 
control is poorly set up. To choose the CD input I have to flip the remote 
over, open up a panel on the back and press a button there. They are probably 
buying the remotes in bulk and then configuring the buttons rather than getting 
a remote specially made to suit the unit. Apart from that I am happy with the 
amp and speakers. 




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Re: Stochastic photography

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  Great idea!  Thanks, Bob!

A little rubberized/silicone coating on the Vise-Grips jaws would make 
them pretty versatile, too.


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On 11/22/2010 3:28 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

Other alternative is a 'Vise-Grip' pliers with a bolt or two braised onto them.
You then put a small ball head on the bolt and the Vise-Grip onto anything.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Walter Gilbert  wrote:

  Thanks for the input!  I think I may have come up with the best option -- a
sort of reverse monopod.

A 1/4" bolt through a length of lightweight chain.  Run the bolt through one
end of the chain (making sure the link is smaller than the head of the bolt)
-- screw into the camera, step on the other end of the chain and pull it
tight while shooting.

It'll provide a fair amount of stability, and when not being used, can be
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On 11/22/2010 3:05 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:

On 23 November 2010 07:16, DagTwrote:


I usually start by walk around or looking at the subject, trying to find
out what caught my interest, visualizing how the picture could be, and then
start photographing. Even then I tend to take few pictures, sometimes only
one. No tripod, even when using large format, because it removes the
flexibility and slows down the reactions.

I realised many years ago though inspection of my slides at high mag
that tripods apart from often reducing the amount of often useful
experimentation in composition aren't the be all and end all to obtain
optimal sharpness either, especially when working with WA lenses in
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Re: OT - Home Theater Advice?

[eckinator]

I have an old Cambridge SoundWorks 5.1 System that I bought in 2001 in
a bundle with the then highest spec'ed SoundBlaster Live! Platinum
ultimate blablabla... it has all the ins and outs I need and supports
all kinds of setups so I'm pretty happy. I'm sure there is better than
that today with surround having long ago made it to the mass market
but if you can get one used you'll be happy.
Cheers
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2010/11/22 John Celio :
> I know there are a lot of tech-heads here, so I hope y'all don't mind my
> asking such an off-topic question.  Please feel free to reply off-list.
>
> I'm looking for a basic home theater setup for use with my Xbox and DVD
> player.  My TV is a big ol' CRT, which I don't expect to be able to
> upgrade for some time (unless I find some incredible deals on 40" LCDs
> this December), but I'd really like better sound than the built-in
> speakers.
>
> The thing is, I know absolutely nothing about home theater equipment and
> don't know where to start.  What are good brands?  What are important
> specs to look at?  Are there good online guides you can recommend for
> this sort of info?
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> Any sound advice (pun intended) would be appreciated.
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Re: Stochastic photography

[Bob Sullivan]

Other alternative is a 'Vise-Grip' pliers with a bolt or two braised onto them.
You then put a small ball head on the bolt and the Vise-Grip onto anything.
Regards,  Bob S.

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>  Thanks for the input!  I think I may have come up with the best option -- a
> sort of reverse monopod.
>
> A 1/4" bolt through a length of lightweight chain.  Run the bolt through one
> end of the chain (making sure the link is smaller than the head of the bolt)
> -- screw into the camera, step on the other end of the chain and pull it
> tight while shooting.
>
> It'll provide a fair amount of stability, and when not being used, can be
> carried in a pocket.
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> On 11/22/2010 3:05 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:
>>
>> On 23 November 2010 07:16, DagT  wrote:
>>
>>> I usually start by walk around or looking at the subject, trying to find
>>> out what caught my interest, visualizing how the picture could be, and then
>>> start photographing. Even then I tend to take few pictures, sometimes only
>>> one. No tripod, even when using large format, because it removes the
>>> flexibility and slows down the reactions.
>>
>> I realised many years ago though inspection of my slides at high mag
>> that tripods apart from often reducing the amount of often useful
>> experimentation in composition aren't the be all and end all to obtain
>> optimal sharpness either, especially when working with WA lenses in
>> good light.
>>
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Re: PESO: Snow Geese

[Bob Sullivan]

Jack,
I like the geese in the background of the 3rd photo.
They add a sense of magnitude to the whole thing.
Regards, Bob S.

On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> Visited Gray Lodge again this AM. The Snow Geese are finally in and in 
> staggering numbers. Did the typical flock shooting and am offering three  
> Representative grabs. I have a lot of editing yet to do and may offer a 
> couple more..someday.
> I should go for a "hide", but haven't had the urge to get out there at dawn 
> when the temps are sinking and the wind picking up. One advantage of this 
> degrading weather, however, is the absence of mosquitoes.
>
> Jack
>
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Re: PAW46 - Dog

[Daniel J. Matyola]

He had to wait for a paws in the action, though.

Dan

On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Stan Halpin
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>
> On Nov 22, 2010, at 4:09 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
>
>> Dag, Well spotted!  Regards,  Bob S.
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 1:44 PM, DagT  wrote:
>>> http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/files/page7-1000-full.html
>>> K20D, DA*55mm, 1/125s, f/2, ISO200
>>>
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Re: PAW46 - Dog

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On Nov 22, 2010, at 4:09 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

> Dag, Well spotted!  Regards,  Bob S.
> 
> On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 1:44 PM, DagT  wrote:
>> http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/files/page7-1000-full.html
>> K20D, DA*55mm, 1/125s, f/2, ISO200
>> 
I think he just sniffed out the opportunity.

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Re: PESO: Snow Geese

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Wonderful images, Jack!
The third image is my favorite, because of the amazing amount of detail.

Thanks for freezing and sharing the results so we don't have to freeze.

Dan

On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 3:55 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> Visited Gray Lodge again this AM. The Snow Geese are finally in and in 
> staggering numbers. Did the typical flock shooting and am offering three  
> Representative grabs. I have a lot of editing yet to do and may offer a 
> couple more..someday.
> I should go for a "hide", but haven't had the urge to get out there at dawn 
> when the temps are sinking and the wind picking up. One advantage of this 
> degrading weather, however, is the absence of mosquitoes.
>
> Jack
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Re: Stochastic photography

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  Thanks for the input!  I think I may have come up with the best 
option -- a sort of reverse monopod.


A 1/4" bolt through a length of lightweight chain.  Run the bolt through 
one end of the chain (making sure the link is smaller than the head of 
the bolt) -- screw into the camera, step on the other end of the chain 
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On 11/22/2010 3:05 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:

On 23 November 2010 07:16, DagT  wrote:


I usually start by walk around or looking at the subject, trying to find out 
what caught my interest, visualizing how the picture could be, and then start 
photographing. Even then I tend to take few pictures, sometimes only one. No 
tripod, even when using large format, because it removes the flexibility and 
slows down the reactions.

I realised many years ago though inspection of my slides at high mag
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experimentation in composition aren't the be all and end all to obtain
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Re: PAW46 - Dog

[Bob Sullivan]

Dag, Well spotted!  Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 1:44 PM, DagT  wrote:
> http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/files/page7-1000-full.html
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Re: PAW46 - Dog

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On 22/11/10, DagT, discombobulated, unleashed:

>http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/files/page7-1000-full.html
>K20D, DA*55mm, 1/125s, f/2, ISO200

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Re: A small rant on obtrusive copyright marks.

[DagT]

I have got some money in a couple of cases and it was a lot of work arguing, 
but the relevant question is different: would I get any richer if I had my name 
all over the photographs? I don´t think so. 

I do think less people would look at them if the signature annoyed them.

DagT
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Den 22. nov. 2010 kl. 22.01 skrev Bob Sullivan:

> And Dag,
> Are you a rich man collecting from all those who have infringed on
> your copywrite?
> I'll bet you don't even work any more because of all the income...  :-)
> Regards,  Bob S.
> 
> On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 12:09 PM, DagT  wrote:
>> Den 20. nov. 2010 kl. 22.51 skrev Jaume Lahuerta:
>> 
>>> - Mensaje original 
>>> 
 De: Miserere 
> 
 Wow Darren,  I never thought my (c) would annoy you so much  :-(
 
 I've just  finished reading through the thread and am surprised at how
 angry you  sound.
 
 I'll comment later on when I have some  time.
 
>>> 
>>> I have to admit that:
>>> 
>>> 1) I immediately thought on your pictures when I read the initial post.
>>> 2) I also find that (C)s particularly annoying/disturbing (basically 
>>> beacause
>>> they don't allow me to fully enjoy your images)
>>> 3) I have never found that someone else has used one of my images without
>>> permission...Maybe if I would, my opinion would be different, so I never
>>> complained.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Jaume
>> 
>> 
>> Sorry I´m late (been in Berlin for a few days) but I agree that copyright 
>> symbols and names inside the pictures reduces the experience of the picture.
>> 
>> I have had pictures stolen in every (?) possible way but I don´t think any 
>> of them would have been avoided with a copyright inside the picture. If it 
>> isn´t large enough to ruin the picture it is easy to remove by some simple 
>> editing.
>> 
>> I think that in most jurisdictions it is clearly illegal once you do 
>> anything to active to remove the symbol and name.   Thus the name doesn´t 
>> have to be large. My solution has been to include the copyright in the 
>> picture but outside the frame. If you download any of my pictures you will 
>> find that it comes with a white frame and copyright symbol as well as name 
>> in the file but outside the picture. It is very easy to remove, just crop of 
>> the frame, but doing that will be illegal.
>> 
>> Another thing is that the links to the pictures on my we site are not stable 
>> so any direct linking will be hopeless once I add a picture in the gallery 
>> (as you can see each time I update the PAW and refer to the same link).
>> 
>> So, even if I can see the reason for "ruining" the pictures I don´t think it 
>> works and also it is also not necessary.
>> 
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Re: Stochastic photography

[Rob Studdert]

On 23 November 2010 07:16, DagT  wrote:

> I usually start by walk around or looking at the subject, trying to find out 
> what caught my interest, visualizing how the picture could be, and then start 
> photographing. Even then I tend to take few pictures, sometimes only one. No 
> tripod, even when using large format, because it removes the flexibility and 
> slows down the reactions.

I realised many years ago though inspection of my slides at high mag
that tripods apart from often reducing the amount of often useful
experimentation in composition aren't the be all and end all to obtain
optimal sharpness either, especially when working with WA lenses in
good light.

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PESO: Snow Geese

[Jack Davis]

Visited Gray Lodge again this AM. The Snow Geese are finally in and in 
staggering numbers. Did the typical flock shooting and am offering three  
Representative grabs. I have a lot of editing yet to do and may offer a couple 
more..someday.
I should go for a "hide", but haven't had the urge to get out there at dawn 
when the temps are sinking and the wind picking up. One advantage of this 
degrading weather, however, is the absence of mosquitoes.

Jack

Comments welcome!

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Re: A small rant on obtrusive copyright marks.

[Bob Sullivan]

And Dag,
Are you a rich man collecting from all those who have infringed on
your copywrite?
I'll bet you don't even work any more because of all the income...  :-)
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 12:09 PM, DagT  wrote:
> Den 20. nov. 2010 kl. 22.51 skrev Jaume Lahuerta:
>
>> - Mensaje original 
>>
>>> De: Miserere 

>>> Wow Darren,  I never thought my (c) would annoy you so much  :-(
>>>
>>> I've just  finished reading through the thread and am surprised at how
>>> angry you  sound.
>>>
>>> I'll comment later on when I have some  time.
>>>
>>
>> I have to admit that:
>>
>> 1) I immediately thought on your pictures when I read the initial post.
>> 2) I also find that (C)s particularly annoying/disturbing (basically beacause
>> they don't allow me to fully enjoy your images)
>> 3) I have never found that someone else has used one of my images without
>> permission...Maybe if I would, my opinion would be different, so I never
>> complained.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jaume
>
>
> Sorry I´m late (been in Berlin for a few days) but I agree that copyright 
> symbols and names inside the pictures reduces the experience of the picture.
>
> I have had pictures stolen in every (?) possible way but I don´t think any of 
> them would have been avoided with a copyright inside the picture. If it isn´t 
> large enough to ruin the picture it is easy to remove by some simple editing.
>
> I think that in most jurisdictions it is clearly illegal once you do anything 
> to active to remove the symbol and name.   Thus the name doesn´t have to be 
> large. My solution has been to include the copyright in the picture but 
> outside the frame. If you download any of my pictures you will find that it 
> comes with a white frame and copyright symbol as well as name in the file but 
> outside the picture. It is very easy to remove, just crop of the frame, but 
> doing that will be illegal.
>
> Another thing is that the links to the pictures on my we site are not stable 
> so any direct linking will be hopeless once I add a picture in the gallery 
> (as you can see each time I update the PAW and refer to the same link).
>
> So, even if I can see the reason for "ruining" the pictures I don´t think it 
> works and also it is also not necessary.
>
> DagT
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Re: PESO: For Baseball Fans

[Mark Roberts]

Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

>It is hard to imagine what Ruth could have done with modern training
>methods, or even if he just moderated his heavy smoking, eating and
>drinking (even in the dugout).  Ruth on steroids?  Incredible Hulk,
>move over.

Never mind steroids, how about Babe Ruth on Lipitor? He might have
lived much longer! (And with human growth hormone - which can improve
aging eyesight - might have been hitting home runs into his 40's.)



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Re: PESO: For Baseball Fans

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Here is a post I made to another list a while back:

A long time ago, I learned that, if you don't know the answer to a
baseball trivia question, just say "Babe Ruth."  There is a surprising
probability you will be correct.

The longest complete game victory in World Series history was Babe
Ruth's 12 inning pitching masterpiece that gave Boston the victory
over Brooklyn in game 2 of the 1916 World series!

How good a pitcher was Ruth?  His nine shutouts in 1916 set an AL
record for left-handers which would remain unmatched until Ron Guidry
tied it in 1978.  Ruth pitched  29⅔ innings consecutive scoreless
innings in the World Series as a Boston pitcher,  a record that would
last until Whitey Ford broke it in 1961.  He was clearly one of the
best pitchers of all time, but more valuable to the Yankees as a
slugger.

Dan

It is hard to imagine what Ruth could have done with modern training
methods, or even if he just moderated his heavy smoking, eating and
drinking (even in the dugout).  Ruth on steroids?  Incredible Hulk,
move over.

On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 3:18 PM, frank theriault
 wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Walter Gilbert  wrote:
>>  In the modern game, they'd have probably kept him in a pitching rotation,
>> unfortunately.
>>
>> He was a southpaw, after all.  :-\
>
> He was a leftie, and he was a hell of a pitcher!  I think he may still
> have (or was it only very recently broken?) the record for consecutive
> scoreless innings in the World Series.  It's just that he was so good
> a hitter that they couldn't afford to have him play once every four or
> five days.
>
> Hey, it's pretty hard to compare what he did (either as a pitcher or
> hitter) to today's game.  He usually faced the same pitcher, no matter
> how tired or "off" he was, for nine innings.  No relievers (unless the
> starter's arm had fallen off), no middle relievers, "set up men",
> closers.  Just one pitcher for the whole game.
>
> Still, what we can do is compare Ruth to his contemporaries, and he
> still stands head and shoulders above the rest.
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
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Re: My pictures for a music CD cover

[Dario Bonazza]

Thanks Miserere. Yes, you're absolutely right: mission accomplished, and 
that counts above all.

For some reason, I felt like justifying those pics, explaining I've been
asked to make them different from usual stuff. That's been my way to meet
the band requirements and they apparently like the results so much. I had
quite an amusing shooting session, pizza & beer, my name among the credits
and got paid for the work. That's fine indeed!

Dario

- Original Message - 
From: "Miserere" 

To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 6:27 PM
Subject: Re: My pictures for a music CD cover


Congratulations, Dario.

As for some people not liking the shots, so what? You did what the
band asked you, and that's what this is about, right?


—M.

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On 22 November 2010 04:34, Dario Bonazza  wrote:

Hi folks,

Some time ago I've been commissioned a shooting for a CD cover. Now that
CD has been released, and you can see the result here:
www.dariobonazza.com/published/EmblemaKeepOut.jpg
And no, the crocodile pic is not one of mine ;-)

Dario


I'm afraid someone won't like those rather unorthodox pics (fish-eye,
highISO/low dynamic range, movement and so on), but the band asked for
unusual stuff and I was more than ready to cope ;-)

Dario



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Re: My pictures for a music CD cover

[Dario Bonazza]

Hi Frank! Thanks for commenting. I remember you had some pictures of yours 
published on a CD too, some years ago. How is Pirate Jenny going?


Dario

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Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 8:44 PM
Subject: Re: My pictures for a music CD cover


On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 3:30 AM, Dario Bonazza
 wrote:

Hi folks,

Some time ago I've been commissioned a shooting for a CD cover. Now that 
CD

has been released, and you can see the result here:
www.dariobonazza.com/published/EmblemaKeepOut.jpg
And no, the crocodile pic is not one of mine ;-)


Congrats on some excellent work!

cheers,
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Re: PESO: For Baseball Fans

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks, Frank!

On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 2:57 PM, frank theriault
 wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  
> wrote:
>> I spent some time wandering around Baltimore last week, while my wife
>> was at a science teachers' convention.  I visited the Orioles' Park at
>> Camden Yards, a beautiful baseball facility.  There were plaques
>> honoring the players in the Orioles Hall of Fame, and a few players
>> were represented by sculptures representing their uniform numbers
>> outside the main entrance.  There was only one statue of a player,
>> however, and I invite Americans who follow baseball to identify the
>> player given this singular honor:
>>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11949165
>>
>> Of course, comments, criticisms, suggestions and abuse are invited.
>
> That's a lovely photo.  The light/shade makes it.
>
> cheers,
> frank
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Re: PESO: Drowned Church

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks, Dag.  I agree.

This was scanned from a print made by a mass production developing and
printing operation.  I hope that the negative -- when I find it --
will have more room all around, so that I can play around with the
crop.  I would like more room as the left especially if the negative
has a bit more of the reflection.

Dan

On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 2:57 PM, DagT  wrote:
> I agree with Frank here, and regarding the cropping I think I would have let 
> the church have more room on the left, because that is where the light is 
> coming from. I also believe that more empty space around the church, 
> especially in the left, would increase a feeling of being lost and 
> forgotten...
>
> DagT
> http://www.thrane.name
>
>
>
> Den 22. nov. 2010 kl. 20.50 skrev frank theriault:
>
>> On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  
>> wrote:
>>> Thanks, Frank.  As explained in my response to Ted, I realize it is a
>>> poor scan, and I am hoping to improve on it.  Do you have any other
>>> suggestions, assuming I find the negative and and get a good scan of
>>> it?
>>
>> I'm not very good at suggestions, but I'd certainly want to get the
>> church off-centre.  My preference would be to have a bit more room on
>> the left or the right (probably the left because I like the light over
>> there), but if what we see is pretty much full-frame, I'd crop a bit
>> off the right, just to avoid the bullseye effect we see here.
>>
>> As I said, however, the lack of sharpness is the big thing here;  if
>> you could find the original neg and rescan it, you'd improve things
>> immensely!
>>
>> cheers,
>> frank
>
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Re: OT - Home Theater Advice?

[Walter Gilbert]

  Sounds like my PC audio set-up, which is a used Denon AVR-900 from 
eBay, with a Bose Acoustimass 5 LFE I picked up at a warehouse clearance 
for $50 without the satellite speakers -- in place of which, I use a set 
of Sony SS-TS503's from Overstock.  Works pretty well for computer 
audio, and cost less than $200 all-told.


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On 11/22/2010 2:22 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

My "home theater" audio system is a Denon DRA-435 receiver I picked up
at the local Salvation Army Thrift Store last month for $40 and a Bose
3E satellite speaker system I bought in 1991 for $600. Sound quality
meets my needs for 'audiophile' quality: it works well for listening
to music, watching movies and videos with the Sony flat panel
television and AppleTV or CD/DVD player.

A friend of mine is a true audiophile. He's been collecting the
greatest recordings he can find of his favorite operas, music and
movies for years. But he can't decide on what equipment is the best,
can't afford the expensive stuff, so mostly he just dusts his
collection occasionally and fantasizes how nice it will sound when he
finally decides what equipment to buy.

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Re: PESO: Drowned Church

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks, Frank!

This was one of the White Nights that make Russia so pleasant in June
and July, and the light that evening was better in my memory than in
this image.  I'm also hoping for a bit more of the reflection in the
water, and perhaps even some detail in the cloud cover.

Dan

On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 2:50 PM, frank theriault
 wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  
> wrote:
>> Thanks, Frank.  As explained in my response to Ted, I realize it is a
>> poor scan, and I am hoping to improve on it.  Do you have any other
>> suggestions, assuming I find the negative and and get a good scan of
>> it?
>
> I'm not very good at suggestions, but I'd certainly want to get the
> church off-centre.  My preference would be to have a bit more room on
> the left or the right (probably the left because I like the light over
> there), but if what we see is pretty much full-frame, I'd crop a bit
> off the right, just to avoid the bullseye effect we see here.
>
> As I said, however, the lack of sharpness is the big thing here;  if
> you could find the original neg and rescan it, you'd improve things
> immensely!
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
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Re: PESO: For Baseball Fans

[Mark Roberts]

frank theriault wrote:

>And he did all that while drinking and eating to excess, whoring
>around and playing many games hung over.  Imagine if he'd had modern
>training techniques available to him?  

Not to mention modern pharmaceutical technology ;-)


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Re: PESO: Not a cormorant

[frank theriault]

On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 5:36 AM, Subash  wrote:
> hi,
>
> something new for me. went birding with my new old a*300/4. the monsoons
> are here, dark, cloudy and not very good light. but managed a few good
> ones. this one's of a spot-billed pelican. it posed for a while before
> flying away.
>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/pdml.live/Peso#5541938023116541442
>
> k-x, a*300/4 with the 1.7x AF TC, this is from the in-camera jpeg,
> cropped to about 95% of the original size...
>
> appreciate your comments.

Terrific detail, wonderful shot!

cheers,
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Re: PESO - Ducks on the Wing

[frank theriault]

On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 2:35 PM, Walter Gilbert  wrote:
>  I meant to comment on this shot earlier, but somehow, I must have gotten
> distracted.
>
> Anyway -- love the shot!  I live in the heart of duck hunting country (right
> on the Mississippi flyway) and have never had a chance to get a shot like
> that.  I even have a close friend who is part-owner of a duck hunting lodge.
>  Still ... no dice.  :-(

Thanks, Walter.  I was just standing there, and they flew over.
Luckily I had my camera's exposure and focus set (I was shooting with
the M200mm f4.0, so it was all manual) so all's I had to do was follow
them for a second and snap.  I was bracketing, but it worked out that
the first snap (the best composed one) was acceptably exposed.

Thanks again!

cheers,
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Re: My pictures for a music CD cover

[Dario Bonazza]

Hi Bob, yes it is. And the guy responsible for the art work caught the 
(fish) eye effect and was able to make good use of it, including turning it 
into a croc-eye ;-)


Dario


Dario,
It must be fun to see your shots released with the album cover.
You should be proud!
And the fisheye stuff looks good, mimics an eye.
Regrds,  Bob S.

On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 2:30 AM, Dario Bonazza
 wrote:

Hi folks,

Some time ago I've been commissioned a shooting for a CD cover. Now that 
CD

has been released, and you can see the result here:
www.dariobonazza.com/published/EmblemaKeepOut.jpg
And no, the crocodile pic is not one of mine ;-)

Dario



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Re: OT - Home Theater Advice?

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

My "home theater" audio system is a Denon DRA-435 receiver I picked up
at the local Salvation Army Thrift Store last month for $40 and a Bose
3E satellite speaker system I bought in 1991 for $600. Sound quality
meets my needs for 'audiophile' quality: it works well for listening
to music, watching movies and videos with the Sony flat panel
television and AppleTV or CD/DVD player.

A friend of mine is a true audiophile. He's been collecting the
greatest recordings he can find of his favorite operas, music and
movies for years. But he can't decide on what equipment is the best,
can't afford the expensive stuff, so mostly he just dusts his
collection occasionally and fantasizes how nice it will sound when he
finally decides what equipment to buy.

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Re: My pictures for a music CD cover

[Dario Bonazza]

paul stenquist wrote:


Well done! Did you shoot the reptile as well?


No, the croc is not by me, but its eye is ;-)

Dario

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Re: PESO: For Baseball Fans

[frank theriault]

On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Walter Gilbert  wrote:
>  In the modern game, they'd have probably kept him in a pitching rotation,
> unfortunately.
>
> He was a southpaw, after all.  :-\

He was a leftie, and he was a hell of a pitcher!  I think he may still
have (or was it only very recently broken?) the record for consecutive
scoreless innings in the World Series.  It's just that he was so good
a hitter that they couldn't afford to have him play once every four or
five days.

Hey, it's pretty hard to compare what he did (either as a pitcher or
hitter) to today's game.  He usually faced the same pitcher, no matter
how tired or "off" he was, for nine innings.  No relievers (unless the
starter's arm had fallen off), no middle relievers, "set up men",
closers.  Just one pitcher for the whole game.

Still, what we can do is compare Ruth to his contemporaries, and he
still stands head and shoulders above the rest.

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Re: My pictures for a music CD cover

[Dario Bonazza]

Cotty wrote:


On 22/11/10, Dario Bonazza, discombobulated, unleashed:

Some time ago I've been commissioned a shooting for a CD cover. Now that 
CD

has been released, and you can see the result here:
www.dariobonazza.com/published/EmblemaKeepOut.jpg
And no, the crocodile pic is not one of mine ;-)


Great job Dario.

The call sheet for band photo-shoots must be the same the world over:

9:00 am East end of town near the old factory. Jeans and sneakers.
Shades optional. Don't shave.

9:03 am  wrap.

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In that case, it was 7 p.m., and then pizzas & beer everybody!

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Re: PAW46 - Dog

[Theodore Beilby]

I agree with Frank on this one.

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Re: Stochastic photography

[DagT]

> 
> Walt, just a few comments on you post.
> 
> I started shooting seriously more than 30 years ago and learned a different 
> approach to shooting due to the fact that I was shooting film. Some of  the 
> people I go shooting with now would go through a roll of film in a matter 
> of minutes if they were shooting film rather than digital. They truly are 
> shooting and praying. When I was shooting weddings, I had to get the shot in 
> one 
> shot if possible. sometimes, like groups, I would shoot more than one shot 
> because of blinkers, etc. but, for the most part, we had to get it right the 
> first time. Plus, we were shooting medium format so there were only 12 shots 
> per 
> roll. I also am forced to using a tripod physically due to my shakiness. I 
> did 
> shoot at times without the tripod, as I am sure you remember, but my success 
> rate is much lower when I do so. A tripod forces you to slow down, compose 
> more 
> carefully, and pay more attention to you exposure as well as improving 
> overall 
> image sharpness. This is a shooting style that takes effort to adopt but is 
> worth it in the long run. It also means less time in post, culling and 
> editing, 
> and processing your results. The trust in your equipment comes with use and 
> time. Slowing down and examining your settings and composition before you 
> shoot 
> helps you to learn what your equipment is going to reward you with. As far as 
> staging, true, you can't tell a butterfly how to hold it's wings, but you can 
> determine the "decisive moment" but that is a skill that everyone must 
> develop. 
> Be it a butterfly or a drag car launching, the photographer pushes the 
> "little 
> round thingy" to quote Doug. I am not saying what shooting style is best, 
> only 
> how I approach a shoot. You have to  develop your own shooting style as well 
> as 
> your own visual style, and I do believe that they directly influence each 
> other. 
> Well, off the soap box and thanks for your patience. 
> 
> Ted

Great, I was going to write something like that, even how long I have been 
shooting .-)  I started photographing 33 years ago when I was young and didn´t 
have too much money for film. Now I just hate deleting stupid pictures so the 
effect is the same.

I usually start by walk around or looking at the subject, trying to find out 
what caught my interest, visualizing how the picture could be, and then start 
photographing. Even then I tend to take few pictures, sometimes only one. No 
tripod, even when using large format, because it removes the flexibility and 
slows down the reactions.

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Re: Boris Peso #52 - Evening walk

[frank theriault]

On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Boris Liberman  wrote:
> Well, the work week is starting tomorrow, so I shall stop bothering you :-).
>
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/11/peso-2010-52-evening-walk.html
>
> It seems to me that should I get K-5, I will shoot in the evening much more.
>
> Be brutal and honest, as usual.

Lovely mood.  And I like the bike, too.

;-)

Seriously, this is a terrific shot.  Looks like a warm summer evening.
 We got a brief snow flurry yesterday (not enough to leave any on the
ground, but there was a bit of snow in the air).  I miss warm summer
evenings - your photo is very evocative.

cheers,
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Re: PESO: For Baseball Fans

[Walter Gilbert]

  In the modern game, they'd have probably kept him in a pitching 
rotation, unfortunately.


He was a southpaw, after all.  :-\


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On 11/22/2010 2:07 PM, frank theriault wrote:

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Steven Desjardins  wrote:

Well, it's all about Babe Ruth.  Very few American sports figures have
so towered in their sport.  Hence the American adjective "Ruthian".

It may be true that he literally saved baseball.  After the Black Sox
scandal attendance dropped around the majors.  Ruth was the superstar
that turned that around and brought fans back to the parks again.

And why not?  He single-handedly changed the way the game was played.
Until he came along home runs were not a part of the game - it was
thought to be better to keep the ball in the park, to keep rallies
going, to continue to have base runners.

Turned out, however, that the fans ~loved~ home runs!

His finest year is thought by many to have been 1920, when he hit 54
home runs, with a .376 batting average.  He hit more home runs than
any other ~team~ in the league that year, except the Phillies who hit
(as a team) 64 homers.

And he did all that while drinking and eating to excess, whoring
around and playing many games hung over.  Imagine if he'd had modern
training techniques available to him?  Hard to know...

cheers,
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Re: PESO: Blackbird

[frank theriault]

On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 6:02 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> Nice detail

Yes it is.  Very good shot overall.

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Re: I was wondering ...

[Brian Walters]

On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 15:31 +0200, "Boris Liberman" 
wrote:
> On 11/21/2010 10:52 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
> > Not quite all, apparently.  The K200D doesn't have PZ functionality but
> > it is compatible with SDM lenses.
> 
> Software?
> 


Don't think so - the manual specifically states non-PZ compatibility.


Cheers

Brian

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Re: PESO Jetty Dreams

[frank theriault]

On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> We were out airing the dog in Port Credit, down at Lake Ontario on Saturday.
>  I was needing some landscapes to experiment with an idea I had for
> simulating the Singh-Ray Gold-N-Blue polarizing filter, so I snapped a few.
> This one turned out the best after a little PP ...
>
> http://goo.gl/zKJDm
>
> K20D, DA* 16-50 @ 50mm, 1/2000th, f/8, ISO 200.
> PP purely in ACR.

That's a gorgeous shot, Bruce!  Port Credit is just a few miles west
of me in New Toronto.

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Re: PESO: For Baseball Fans

[frank theriault]

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Steven Desjardins  wrote:
> Well, it's all about Babe Ruth.  Very few American sports figures have
> so towered in their sport.  Hence the American adjective "Ruthian".

It may be true that he literally saved baseball.  After the Black Sox
scandal attendance dropped around the majors.  Ruth was the superstar
that turned that around and brought fans back to the parks again.

And why not?  He single-handedly changed the way the game was played.
Until he came along home runs were not a part of the game - it was
thought to be better to keep the ball in the park, to keep rallies
going, to continue to have base runners.

Turned out, however, that the fans ~loved~ home runs!

His finest year is thought by many to have been 1920, when he hit 54
home runs, with a .376 batting average.  He hit more home runs than
any other ~team~ in the league that year, except the Phillies who hit
(as a team) 64 homers.

And he did all that while drinking and eating to excess, whoring
around and playing many games hung over.  Imagine if he'd had modern
training techniques available to him?  Hard to know...

cheers,
frank

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Re: OT - Home Theater Advice?

[Tim Bray]

I'm a pretty hardcore audiophile... When the tribe starts discussing
speakers that are priced low and are way better than they deserve to
be for the price, we usually end up talking about PSB, see
http://www.psbspeakers.com/

 -T

On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 10:30 AM, John Celio  wrote:
> I know there are a lot of tech-heads here, so I hope y'all don't mind my
> asking such an off-topic question.  Please feel free to reply off-list.
>
> I'm looking for a basic home theater setup for use with my Xbox and DVD
> player.  My TV is a big ol' CRT, which I don't expect to be able to
> upgrade for some time (unless I find some incredible deals on 40" LCDs
> this December), but I'd really like better sound than the built-in
> speakers.
>
> The thing is, I know absolutely nothing about home theater equipment and
> don't know where to start.  What are good brands?  What are important
> specs to look at?  Are there good online guides you can recommend for
> this sort of info?
>
> Any sound advice (pun intended) would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
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Re: PESO: For Baseball Fans

[frank theriault]

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> I spent some time wandering around Baltimore last week, while my wife
> was at a science teachers' convention.  I visited the Orioles' Park at
> Camden Yards, a beautiful baseball facility.  There were plaques
> honoring the players in the Orioles Hall of Fame, and a few players
> were represented by sculptures representing their uniform numbers
> outside the main entrance.  There was only one statue of a player,
> however, and I invite Americans who follow baseball to identify the
> player given this singular honor:
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11949165
>
> Of course, comments, criticisms, suggestions and abuse are invited.

That's a lovely photo.  The light/shade makes it.

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Re: PESO: Drowned Church

[DagT]

I agree with Frank here, and regarding the cropping I think I would have let 
the church have more room on the left, because that is where the light is 
coming from. I also believe that more empty space around the church, especially 
in the left, would increase a feeling of being lost and forgotten...

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Den 22. nov. 2010 kl. 20.50 skrev frank theriault:

> On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  
> wrote:
>> Thanks, Frank.  As explained in my response to Ted, I realize it is a
>> poor scan, and I am hoping to improve on it.  Do you have any other
>> suggestions, assuming I find the negative and and get a good scan of
>> it?
> 
> I'm not very good at suggestions, but I'd certainly want to get the
> church off-centre.  My preference would be to have a bit more room on
> the left or the right (probably the left because I like the light over
> there), but if what we see is pretty much full-frame, I'd crop a bit
> off the right, just to avoid the bullseye effect we see here.
> 
> As I said, however, the lack of sharpness is the big thing here;  if
> you could find the original neg and rescan it, you'd improve things
> immensely!
> 
> cheers,
> frank


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Re: Boris PESO #53 - Megadrive

[frank theriault]

On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 11:56 PM, Boris Liberman  wrote:
> Darn. The tea hasn't kicked in yet.
>
> It is of course:
>
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/11/peso-2010-53-megadrive.html
>
> I apologize.
>
> On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 6:54 AM, Boris Liberman  wrote:
>> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/11/peso-2008-53-megadrive.html

Have no idea why, but I really like this one.  The blue cover on the
bike lock chain makes it.  And the composition, of course - it's
terrific.

Wonderful shot, Boris.

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Re: PAW46 - Dog

[frank theriault]

On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 2:44 PM, DagT  wrote:
> http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/files/page7-1000-full.html
> K20D, DA*55mm, 1/125s, f/2, ISO200

Damn, that's a good shot!

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Re: PESO: Drowned Church

[frank theriault]

On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> Thanks, Frank.  As explained in my response to Ted, I realize it is a
> poor scan, and I am hoping to improve on it.  Do you have any other
> suggestions, assuming I find the negative and and get a good scan of
> it?

I'm not very good at suggestions, but I'd certainly want to get the
church off-centre.  My preference would be to have a bit more room on
the left or the right (probably the left because I like the light over
there), but if what we see is pretty much full-frame, I'd crop a bit
off the right, just to avoid the bullseye effect we see here.

As I said, however, the lack of sharpness is the big thing here;  if
you could find the original neg and rescan it, you'd improve things
immensely!

cheers,
frank

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Re: PAW46 - Dog

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Now, that is a PAW that has paws of its own!

I like the image;  the spots of the dog are a nice contrast to the
geometric lines all around him.  It is quite mysterious as well:  What
is that passageway, and why is the floor like a roller-coaster?  Where
is the dog coming from or going to?  What has grabbed the dog's
attention?

Dan

On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 2:44 PM, DagT  wrote:
> http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/files/page7-1000-full.html
> K20D, DA*55mm, 1/125s, f/2, ISO200
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Re: Peso's Two from the photo lesson Saturday

[frank theriault]

On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 11:49 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> In between lessons, i managed to get a few photos on the farm walk.
>
> The stare
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11983811
>
> Wagon and pond:
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11983812
>
> I took a few shots with the partial sun reflecting off the pond but
> i',m not very happy with them. This is one area i find the Pentax does
> a better job than the Nikon in metering in this kind of light.,
>
> D200, 80-200 F2.8. Comments welcome.

They're both terrific shots, but The Stare is particularly compelling.
 I probably shouldn't, but I really like the branch with the dead
leaves in the upper right hand corner.  That expressive equine face is
amazing!

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PAW46 - Dog

[DagT]

http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/files/page7-1000-full.html
K20D, DA*55mm, 1/125s, f/2, ISO200 

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Re: My pictures for a music CD cover

[frank theriault]

On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 3:30 AM, Dario Bonazza
 wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> Some time ago I've been commissioned a shooting for a CD cover. Now that CD
> has been released, and you can see the result here:
> www.dariobonazza.com/published/EmblemaKeepOut.jpg
> And no, the crocodile pic is not one of mine ;-)

Congrats on some excellent work!

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Re: PESO: Drowned Church

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks, Frank.  As explained in my response to Ted, I realize it is a
poor scan, and I am hoping to improve on it.  Do you have any other
suggestions, assuming I find the negative and and get a good scan of
it?

Dan

On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 2:40 PM, frank theriault
 wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Theodore Beilby  
> wrote:
>> The lack of sharpness in this image makes it hard for me to really like this
>> image. I think it is a very interesting subject and I realize that it
>> was probably shot on film and scanned so that may be part of the reason for 
>> the
>> lack of sharpness. I probably would have composed the image a little 
>> differently
>> if it was possible. The center heavy location of the church is what bothers 
>> me
>> the most. I would have lowered it in the frame and had it more to the left.
>> Those are just my thoughts on it.
>
> I tend to agree with Ted on this one.  Certainly has the seeds of a
> terrific shot, though - the bad scan is the worst of it.
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
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Re: PESO - Thoughtful

[frank theriault]

On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 10:57 AM, paul stenquist
 wrote:
> A coffee shop portrait.
>
> K5, DA* 60-250, f4, 1/400, ISO 3200, 128mm focal length
>
> Like my last few pesos, this one was rendered on my laptop, so contrast and  
> brightness are always a little iffy. My iMac is in the shop, getting a new 
> video card.
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11988791

There's more than just "thoughtful" coming through on this portrait!

;-)

Wonderfully done.  The rendering looks fine on this public library
monitor that I'm on now.

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Re: PESO: Drowned Church

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks for your comments, Ted.

The reason I posted the image here is because I recognize that this is
a poor scan, and I am in the process of digging out the negative so
that I can re-scan it.  In addition to getting a sharper image, I am
hoping that there will be more area around the church so that I can
also re-crop.

That being the case, your thoughts are just what I was looking for,
and they are greatly appreciated.

For some reason, I like this image, despite its faults, probably
because it brings back pleasant memories of the river cruise we took
from Moscow to St Petersburg 12 years ago.  I remember the pleasant
evening when I was sitting on deck, watching the rather unremarkable
river banks, when suddenly this ruin came into view.  I ran into my
cabin to retrieve my camera, and just barely grabbed this image before
we sailed right past it.  It took me quite a while to find out a
little more about this church and its fate.

This is a scan from a 3x5 print, so I am hoping I can improve on the
image quality if -- if -- I can find the negative and it is still in
good shape.

Thanks for commenting.

Dan

On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Theodore Beilby  wrote:
> The lack of sharpness in this image makes it hard for me to really like this
> image. I think it is a very interesting subject and I realize that it
> was probably shot on film and scanned so that may be part of the reason for 
> the
> lack of sharpness. I probably would have composed the image a little 
> differently
> if it was possible. The center heavy location of the church is what bothers me
> the most. I would have lowered it in the frame and had it more to the left.
> Those are just my thoughts on it.
>
> Ted
>
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