Re: Ned mentions Mark

2010-12-09 Thread Larry Colen

On Dec 8, 2010, at 10:59 PM, Miserere wrote:

 On 9 December 2010 00:34, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 
 On Dec 8, 2010, at 9:28 PM, Miserere wrote:
 
 On 8 December 2010 15:53, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 I did a quick search for this, but didn't find it. I'm about 750 messages 
 behind in the list. I'm afraid that doing photography sometimes interferes 
 with my reading PDML.
 
 Anyways, Ned comments on Mark's Loire valley book:
 http://nedbunnell.posterous.com/pentax-photo-book-for-the-holidays-0
 
 Larry,
 
 This guy already posted about it:
 
 http://www.mail-archive.com/pdml@pdml.net/msg574546.html
 
 I should just set up a cron job to send you an email each day calling you a 
 smart-ass.
 
 I know that's your way of letting me know you love me, and I want you
 to know I appreciate it.

I said cron job, not pr0n job.


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Re: Geso Stouffville Santa Claus Parade

2010-12-09 Thread Boris Liberman
Dave, the guy in the yestercentury clothes and the guy on the 
yestercentury bicycle are particularly good. Also #0999 is fantastic. 
And that person dressed like a microphone... Made me grin.


In fact, I think I should really thank you for letting me glimpse into 
your way of life.


Boris

On 12/9/2010 2:23 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2010-parade/album/index.html

About 130 or so, if you feel like it.

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Re: OT - Mamiya Cxxx TLRs and TLR in general

2010-12-09 Thread Thibouille
Thanks to all of you. Very helpful.
I'm eager to receive the camera and process the films.

Le mercredi 8 décembre 2010, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com a écrit :
 I had the C330 for a bit way back in the 1970s.

 There is a 'top of frame' indicator needle. As you focus closer, it
 drops to show where the top of the frame for a given focusing distance
 would be. So you focus and frame, then raise the camera vertically to
 put the top edge of the frame along the indicator line. The shift is
 only large when you're working in the very close range, for a normal
 to wide lens. With the tele lenses it becomes a bit more significant
 ... best to frame a little loose. Plenty of negative to work with so
 shoot loose and crop ... :-)

 Mamiya made a gizmo for the tripod that worked with the indicator too.
 The indicator had a scale of numbers, IIRC, and you could easily raise
 the camera with gizmo to the number once you achieved proper focus.

 For me, the C330 was always a tripod camera. Held with pistol grip and
 porroflex viewfinder, it was a large and heavy beast to tote around.
 For any hand-held work, I far preferred a Rolleiflex TLR (which had a
 more sophisticated parallax compensation built into the viewfinder
 system albeit for a fixed lens with a more limited close focusing
 range).

 On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 8:34 AM, Jeffery Smith jsmith...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 As I recall, the C330 deals with parallax by having a needle enter the 
 viewfinder field, cropping part of the field that would be cropped due to 
 parallax. Not very sophisticated, but it worked.

 Jeffery


 On Dec 8, 2010, at 10:25 AM, P N Stenquist wrote:

 I had Mamiyaflex C2 and a C220. I always wanted the C330, which has some 
 sort of parallax correction, so the upper lens shows you the frame for the 
 lower lens. Shot with the TLR for many years and made quite a bit of money 
 with it. I used just the 80mm lens for most of that time, but later added 
 the 250mm. It takes a while to get used to seeing things reversed in the 
 viewinder. That was especially difficult shooting pans of race cars, 
 because they came through my viewfinder from the wrong end! But it was a 
 great camera, and the lenses were excellent for the time.
 Paul
 On Dec 8, 2010, at 5:19 AM, Thibouille wrote:

 Got myself (not arrived yet) a Mamiya C330 TLR (with 80/2.8) for a
 couple reasons:

 * I want to do film
 * Medium format
 * 6x4,5 is bigger than 35mm but if going MF, just do it completely.
 6x4,5 is somewhat small IMO
 * The challenge of using a TLR, waist level finder (although prism is
 available as well)
 * The challenge of square format, 6x6
 * Interchangeable lenses on a TLR (quite rare)
 * Mechanical beast, easier to repair than electronic ones if it needs to.

 Now, I know Darren have one, he wrote so a couple weeks ago.
 Darren and others, what could you advise as for usage of such cameras?
 Like usage with or without tripod, what kind of subjects, 120 film 
 handling etc.

 Thank you much.

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Re: Help needed for MacBook Pro-Dell Monitor connection...

2010-12-09 Thread eckinator
do you perhaps need to change the refreh rate to one supported by your monitor?
(doubt this, if so, it should display 'input out of range' but you can try)
also, have you tried testing with another DVI adaptor and/or cable?
also, do you need to enable the external display in system settings?
just some guesswork here for lack of being a mac user
hth
ecke

2010/12/9 Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com:
 I did.  No difference.

 http://photo.net/photos/RickW


 --- On Wed, 12/8/10, John Mullan k...@hotmail.com wrote:

 From: John Mullan k...@hotmail.com
 Subject: Re: Help needed for MacBook Pro-Dell Monitor connection...
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Wednesday, December 8, 2010, 10:21 PM
 I don't know if it makes a difference
 on a Mac, try having the monitor connected and turned on
 before turning the Mac on.

 jm

 -Original Message- From: Rick Womer
 Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 10:13 PM
 To: Pentax List
 Subject: Help needed for MacBook Pro-Dell Monitor
 connection...

 ...and for my blood pressure!

 I set up a Dell U2410 monitor and connected it to my MBP
 via the mini display port and DVI adapter.  My Dell
 2408 monitor at work does very nicely this way.

 No dice.  The monitor claims it's not getting a
 signal, but when I ask it to find a signal it says it's
 getting one through the DVI port.  Clicking detect
 displays in System Prefs/Displays doesn't show me the Dell
 monitor, though.

 Given a choice between a skunk run over by an 18-wheeler on
 a hot summer day and Dell customer service, I'll take the
 skunk.

 Can anyone provide some advice?

 Rick

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Re: Help needed for MacBook Pro-Dell Monitor connection...

2010-12-09 Thread Bruce Walker
Rick, I'd guess cable problems. I've found with my older PowerBook that 
the mini-DVI adapter is a bit touchy and sometimes needs to be pulled 
out and firmly reseated to get a good connection. The pins in those 
connectrs are *really* teensy and suffer a bit from age/wear.


Besides trying another adapter, I'd try another monitor if you can 
borrow one.


-bmw


On 10-12-09 5:10 AM, eckinator wrote:

do you perhaps need to change the refreh rate to one supported by your monitor?
(doubt this, if so, it should display 'input out of range' but you can try)
also, have you tried testing with another DVI adaptor and/or cable?
also, do you need to enable the external display in system settings?
just some guesswork here for lack of being a mac user
hth
ecke

2010/12/9 Rick Womerrwomer1...@yahoo.com:

I did.  No difference.

http://photo.net/photos/RickW


--- On Wed, 12/8/10, John Mullank...@hotmail.com  wrote:


From: John Mullank...@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Help needed for MacBook Pro-Dell Monitor connection...
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net
Date: Wednesday, December 8, 2010, 10:21 PM
I don't know if it makes a difference
on a Mac, try having the monitor connected and turned on
before turning the Mac on.

jm

-Original Message- From: Rick Womer
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 10:13 PM
To: Pentax List
Subject: Help needed for MacBook Pro-Dell Monitor
connection...

...and for my blood pressure!

I set up a Dell U2410 monitor and connected it to my MBP
via the mini display port and DVI adapter.  My Dell
2408 monitor at work does very nicely this way.

No dice.  The monitor claims it's not getting a
signal, but when I ask it to find a signal it says it's
getting one through the DVI port.  Clicking detect
displays in System Prefs/Displays doesn't show me the Dell
monitor, though.

Given a choice between a skunk run over by an 18-wheeler on
a hot summer day and Dell customer service, I'll take the
skunk.

Can anyone provide some advice?

Rick

http://photo.net/photos/RickW



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Re: Pentax slogan

2010-12-09 Thread Cory Waters

Yeah, you can do that with a Pentax.

It's not your father's Pentax. (But you should see if he still has 
those lenses)


Right, but Pentax invented it.

Pentax, the official lens of Cottycam's bastardizations.

Nobody borrows your lenses when you own Pentax.

Pentax DSLR, Stand out on the edge of the crowd

CW


On 12/5/2010 4:36 PM, Larry Colen (Droid Mail) wrote:

Last night when someone saw my camera she comented:
Pentax, the poor man's Nikon.
What else could we do with this:
Cannon, for the skilful photographer.
Or how about Pentax 645D, Hasselblad on a budget.
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PESO - Hanukkah Lights

2010-12-09 Thread frank theriault
Last night was the last night of Hanukkah, so all the candles in the
Menorah were lit.  Looked pretty cool, I thought:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/12/hanukkah-lights.html

Hope you enjoy.  No comment really required (but you may if you wish).

cheers,
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Re: Geso Stouffville Santa Claus Parade

2010-12-09 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 7:23 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2010-parade/album/index.html

 About 130 or so, if you feel like it.

Fun set, Dave!

cheers,
frank

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Re: Pentax slogan

2010-12-09 Thread eckinator
Pentax pancake primes because size does matter.

2010/12/9 Cory Waters cbwat...@bellsouth.net:
 Yeah, you can do that with a Pentax.

 It's not your father's Pentax. (But you should see if he still has those
 lenses)

 Right, but Pentax invented it.

 Pentax, the official lens of Cottycam's bastardizations.

 Nobody borrows your lenses when you own Pentax.

 Pentax DSLR, Stand out on the edge of the crowd

 CW


 On 12/5/2010 4:36 PM, Larry Colen (Droid Mail) wrote:

 Last night when someone saw my camera she comented:
 Pentax, the poor man's Nikon.
 What else could we do with this:
 Cannon, for the skilful photographer.
 Or how about Pentax 645D, Hasselblad on a budget.
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Re: PESO - Hanukkah Lights

2010-12-09 Thread Boris Liberman

Merry Hannukah and Happy Christmas /friendly smile/.

On 12/9/2010 1:41 PM, frank theriault wrote:

Last night was the last night of Hanukkah, so all the candles in the
Menorah were lit.  Looked pretty cool, I thought:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/12/hanukkah-lights.html

Hope you enjoy.  No comment really required (but you may if you wish).

cheers,
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Re: BW film home made processing... now that is cheap (+smartphone helpful apps)

2010-12-09 Thread Thibouille
I bought Tmax because that's what my reseller had in stock.
Heard a couple time Tmax is the best developper, ever. Dunno what to
think about that but at least it is a good one, which is OK for me.

2010/12/8 Gasha cir...@konts.lv:
 Welcome to the club!!!

 I discovered these nice things about 5 years ago. So far used only Rodinal,
 but i hope to try also Ilfosol.

 Gasha

 Thibouille wrote:

 Just understood how cheaper it was to process film in house.
 Got material from my brother, just needed the chemical part.
 Got developper + fixer for 30 Euros, dunno if it is about a right
 price or not...

 I can process 40 35mm films with that, compared to 6 euros per film
 when dropped to my reseller. Ouch !

 BTW, just found out there're a couple nice apps helping, at least on
 iPhone.
 The Massive Dev Chart, ( http://www.digitaltruth.com ) is available
 with complete database of developper/film times, stopwatch etc.
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Re: BW film home made processing... now that is cheap (+smartphone helpful apps)

2010-12-09 Thread Thibouille
I still have a Palm lying somewhere. It might be useful to have the
Palm used just for that, why not, so thank a lot.
I will try the software.

2010/12/8  d...@rileyelf.free-online.co.uk:
 I know it's a bit 'old school' but I use an app on my Palm called Foto
 Timer, http://www.jan-exner.de/software/fototimer.html it allows interval
 setting (for inversions etc.) with alarms. It also allows chained
 processes with pauses etc, so you can chain multiple processes used with a
 pause in between each.
 If anyone is still using a Palm it's well worth a download.

 Drew.




 Just understood how cheaper it was to process film in house.
 Got material from my brother, just needed the chemical part.
 Got developper + fixer for 30 Euros, dunno if it is about a right
 price or not...

 I can process 40 35mm films with that, compared to 6 euros per film
 when dropped to my reseller. Ouch !

 BTW, just found out there're a couple nice apps helping, at least on
 iPhone.
 The Massive Dev Chart, ( http://www.digitaltruth.com ) is available
 with complete database of developper/film times, stopwatch etc.
 Very impressive.

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Re: BW film home made processing... now that is cheap (+smartphone helpful apps)

2010-12-09 Thread Thibouille
2010/12/8 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com:
 Tri-X in D-76 is pretty forgiving, you can soup in a bathroom and pretty
 much time it with your pulse.  Learned to do that in a Photojournalism
 course taught by a semi-retried Photo-Editor from the Providence Journal.
  Except for the fact that that the film used was 35mm rather than 4x5 it was
 a technique that wouldn't have been alien to Weegee.

 Let me see now, what was my point...   Oh, yes. Pick a film and developer
 combination, and learn it, until getting constant results is second nature.
  Then branch out.

Exactly what I had in mind. It will take time to get consistant
results and to try a couple other developpers.
But I'm ready. I'll probably need a new Enlarger though, the one I
could get is really really an old thing. Those go for cheap these days
on Ebay so I'll probably get another one as soon as I'm OK with the
films.

Hope TriX is forgiving as well with Tmax :)

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Re: The New Blog: Real Canadians Wearing Real Hats!

2010-12-09 Thread Jack Davis
I like your new space choice, Frank and Canada is a fine theme addition.

Jack

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 From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com
 Subject: The New Blog: Real Canadians Wearing Real Hats!
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net
 Date: Wednesday, December 8, 2010, 8:29 PM
 This should be fun:
 
 http://realcanadianhats.blogspot.com/
 
 ;-)
 
 I'll be posting my Big Winter Hats on this space from now
 on.  The
 title photo is new to the list, but oh so appropriate
 given the
 blog's title, no?
 
 Hope you enjoy!
 
 cheers,
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Re: Ned plugs Mark's book and PDML

2010-12-09 Thread Jack Davis
Okay..got it! LOL..

Jack

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 From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: Ned plugs Mark's book and PDML
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Wednesday, December 8, 2010, 8:31 PM
 On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 3:57 PM, Jack
 Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  I wonder if Ned knows Mark recently bought a Sony
 A850? ;)
 
 S!!
 
 ;-)
 
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Re: BW film home made processing... now that is cheap (+smartphone helpful apps)

2010-12-09 Thread Luka Knezevic-Strika
a great trick i learned while teaching an introductory darkroom class
to some kids was to just count the ticking clock if you have one in
the darkroom. it's particularly useful for making enlargements if you
don't have a clock attached to the enlarger, since the times are
generally shorter than for film development. also, i don't see why
you'd need anything other than any watch or clock for processing film,
you do it in the tank, and you can have the light on, so..

On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 1:58 PM, Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com wrote:
 2010/12/8 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com:
 Tri-X in D-76 is pretty forgiving, you can soup in a bathroom and pretty
 much time it with your pulse.  Learned to do that in a Photojournalism
 course taught by a semi-retried Photo-Editor from the Providence Journal.
  Except for the fact that that the film used was 35mm rather than 4x5 it was
 a technique that wouldn't have been alien to Weegee.

 Let me see now, what was my point...   Oh, yes. Pick a film and developer
 combination, and learn it, until getting constant results is second nature.
  Then branch out.

 Exactly what I had in mind. It will take time to get consistant
 results and to try a couple other developpers.
 But I'm ready. I'll probably need a new Enlarger though, the one I
 could get is really really an old thing. Those go for cheap these days
 on Ebay so I'll probably get another one as soon as I'm OK with the
 films.

 Hope TriX is forgiving as well with Tmax :)

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Re: The New Blog: Real Canadians Wearing Real Hats!

2010-12-09 Thread eckinator
Thanks for keeping it RIZZEAL, Frank =)

2010/12/9 frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com:
 This should be fun:

 http://realcanadianhats.blogspot.com/

 ;-)

 I'll be posting my Big Winter Hats on this space from now on.  The
 title photo is new to the list, but oh so appropriate given the
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Re: The New Blog: Real Canadians Wearing Real Hats!

2010-12-09 Thread Kenton Brede
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 10:29 PM, frank theriault
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 This should be fun:

 http://realcanadianhats.blogspot.com/

 ;-)

 I'll be posting my Big Winter Hats on this space from now on.  The
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 Hope you enjoy!

I've got you set up in my rss feeder.  Looking forward to more entries. :)
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Re: BW film home made processing... now that is cheap (+smartphone helpful apps)

2010-12-09 Thread P N Stenquist
TMax developer works well, and it has a long shelf life. I shot a roll of BW in 
my Leica a few months ago and processed it with some TMax that's been sitting 
on the shelf for about seven years. No problems. At normal development times, 
the negative density was spot on. When I was shooting a lot of BW, I preferred 
D-76 mixed 1:1 with water -- a somewhat gentle soup that yielded a nice range 
of midtones-- but it involved a lot of work, since D-76 is only sold as a 
mix-it-yourself powder.
Paul
On Dec 9, 2010, at 7:54 AM, Thibouille wrote:

 I bought Tmax because that's what my reseller had in stock.
 Heard a couple time Tmax is the best developper, ever. Dunno what to
 think about that but at least it is a good one, which is OK for me.
 
 2010/12/8 Gasha cir...@konts.lv:
 Welcome to the club!!!
 
 I discovered these nice things about 5 years ago. So far used only Rodinal,
 but i hope to try also Ilfosol.
 
 Gasha
 
 Thibouille wrote:
 
 Just understood how cheaper it was to process film in house.
 Got material from my brother, just needed the chemical part.
 Got developper + fixer for 30 Euros, dunno if it is about a right
 price or not...
 
 I can process 40 35mm films with that, compared to 6 euros per film
 when dropped to my reseller. Ouch !
 
 BTW, just found out there're a couple nice apps helping, at least on
 iPhone.
 The Massive Dev Chart, ( http://www.digitaltruth.com ) is available
 with complete database of developper/film times, stopwatch etc.
 Very impressive.
 
 
 
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RE: Ned mentions Mark

2010-12-09 Thread John Sessoms

From: Larry Colen


I did a quick search for this, but didn't find it. I'm about 750
messages behind in the list. I'm afraid that doing photography
sometimes interferes with my reading PDML.

Anyways, Ned comments on Mark's Loire valley book:
http://nedbunnell.posterous.com/pentax-photo-book-for-the-holidays-0



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Re: PESO: A Swallowtail in Respite

2010-12-09 Thread John Sessoms

From: Walter Gilbert


Also, I'm hesitant to do much more with it as it was among my earlier
shots and I wasn't vigilant about keeping my original images back then.
So, unfortunately, that's the highest resolution version copy I have --
1600 pixels long-side.  I hate to give up much more resolution than
that.  At this point, I'm inclined to submit it as-is, and if it gets
rejected, do a little cropping and maybe do a little graduated softening
of focus around the edges to obscure that part of the fan leaf and see
if that'll give it a boost.

Idunno ... what do you think?

-- Walt


The hardest lesson I had to learn in Photoshop was when to quit messing 
with something. There's always a point beyond which you will not be able 
to improve your image, and that's the time to quit. You just have to be 
able to recognize when you've reached that point.


It's the image you have, and if you think you've reached the point where 
you can't improve it any more, then I agree, it's time to submit it.


I say go for it.

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Re: PESO: A Swallowtail in Respite

2010-12-09 Thread John Sessoms

From: Walter Gilbert


  I don't think they allow any sort of cloning in the images, and only
minor filter effects -- and not being adept at cloning at all, would
most likely make a complete hash of it anyway.  :-)

I've done up a couple of versions both resized to the 600-pixel height
required for submission:

Crop with plain focus: http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5244452247/

Crop with softened focus:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5244451549/

Any thoughts?

-- Walt


My opinion - and that's all it is - is that the softened focus version 
is more pleasing to the eye. Makes it easier to focus on the butterfly 
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Re: PPG Landmark: 200

2010-12-09 Thread Kenton Brede
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 7:40 PM, Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com wrote:
 Just made 200  http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/5180461525/

 Interestingly, it was one of my K-r road test photos.  For the
 morbidly curious, it took me 2 years (2007 to 2009; about the same
 time last year) to reach 100; then a year to reach 200.  I sometimes
 wonder if I'm getting better or the standards are getting lower...

 Whatever.

I really like your work.  Beautiful photos and nice variety.  I get
the sense you could find and capture the beauty around you just about
anywhere.
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Re: Geso Stouffville Santa Claus Parade

2010-12-09 Thread David J Brooks
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 7:54 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 On Dec 8, 2010, at 4:43 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote:

 Always fun to see how other folks celebrate...Never saw a yellow police car 
 before.  Is that a common color?

Apparently yes. Sharp has added it to their colour line up on their
flat screen TV's.:-)

It was the colour of choice for Toronto police cars for years, that
and Plymouth's. I forget when they wen to all white with red letter's,
Frank, Adam, do you recall.??

Dave

 yes it is, just not on police cars.

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Re: Geso Stouffville Santa Claus Parade

2010-12-09 Thread David J Brooks
On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 7:14 AM, frank theriault
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 On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 7:23 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2010-parade/album/index.html

 About 130 or so, if you feel like it.

 Fun set, Dave!

Thanks to all that looked and commented.

Dave

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Re: Help needed for MacBook Pro-Dell Monitor connection...

2010-12-09 Thread David J Brooks
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 10:13 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:


 Given a choice between a skunk run over by an 18-wheeler on a hot summer day 
 and Dell customer service, I'll take the skunk.

 Can anyone provide some advice?

Buy a second skunk.??

Dave

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Re: The New Blog: Real Canadians Wearing Real Hats!

2010-12-09 Thread David J Brooks
Good job Frank. I like the first shot.

You should run up to Hearst or Longlac. They have some real winter
hats there.:-)

Dave

On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 11:29 PM, frank theriault
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 This should be fun:

 http://realcanadianhats.blogspot.com/

 ;-)

 I'll be posting my Big Winter Hats on this space from now on.  The
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OT: Digital ice - a question

2010-12-09 Thread Ann Sanfedele


So... sic transit 1640... Im geting the V500... it says it comes with 
Digital Ice...


I think I remember a cautionary note about using it...  from some one 
here (or from my stock agency)


any rants or raves guys?

Thank goodness the scanner only costs $112  -- and that some of you 
(along with others) bought my calendars...!


T I A for any comments

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Re: Ned plugs Mark's book and PDML

2010-12-09 Thread David J Brooks
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 3:38 PM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 Excellent! Kudos to Mark.
 Paul

Ditto

Dave


 On Dec 8, 2010, at 3:20 PM, Miserere wrote:

 http://nedbunnell.posterous.com/pentax-photo-book-for-the-holidays-0

 Mark was wondering if they'd received the book he sent, and here's the
 answer. The book looks even better in person than it did online,
 unlike some of us. You're getting pretty good at book layout,
 Mark...and setting the bar very high for yourself for the upcoming
 PDML Annual. We expect nothing but 10% more than the best  :-)


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Re: PESO - Hanukkah Lights

2010-12-09 Thread David J Brooks
Nice, it does have a pleasing effect.

Dave

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 Last night was the last night of Hanukkah, so all the candles in the
 Menorah were lit.  Looked pretty cool, I thought:

 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/12/hanukkah-lights.html

 Hope you enjoy.  No comment really required (but you may if you wish).

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Re: PPG Landmark: 200

2010-12-09 Thread David J Brooks
Congrat's. I gave up around the time you hit 100.;-)

Dave

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 Just made 200  http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/5180461525/

 Interestingly, it was one of my K-r road test photos.  For the
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Re: OT - Mamiya Cxxx TLRs and TLR in general

2010-12-09 Thread Jeffery Smith
By the way, I always used the pistol side grip. Get one of those if you can. 
Otherwise, the camera is very awkward to hold and shoot.

Jeffery


On Dec 9, 2010, at 2:49 AM, Thibouille wrote:

 Thanks to all of you. Very helpful.
 I'm eager to receive the camera and process the films.
 
 Le mercredi 8 décembre 2010, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com a écrit :
 I had the C330 for a bit way back in the 1970s.
 
 There is a 'top of frame' indicator needle. As you focus closer, it
 drops to show where the top of the frame for a given focusing distance
 would be. So you focus and frame, then raise the camera vertically to
 put the top edge of the frame along the indicator line. The shift is
 only large when you're working in the very close range, for a normal
 to wide lens. With the tele lenses it becomes a bit more significant
 ... best to frame a little loose. Plenty of negative to work with so
 shoot loose and crop ... :-)
 
 Mamiya made a gizmo for the tripod that worked with the indicator too.
 The indicator had a scale of numbers, IIRC, and you could easily raise
 the camera with gizmo to the number once you achieved proper focus.
 
 For me, the C330 was always a tripod camera. Held with pistol grip and
 porroflex viewfinder, it was a large and heavy beast to tote around.
 For any hand-held work, I far preferred a Rolleiflex TLR (which had a
 more sophisticated parallax compensation built into the viewfinder
 system albeit for a fixed lens with a more limited close focusing
 range).
 
 On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 8:34 AM, Jeffery Smith jsmith...@bellsouth.net 
 wrote:
 As I recall, the C330 deals with parallax by having a needle enter the 
 viewfinder field, cropping part of the field that would be cropped due to 
 parallax. Not very sophisticated, but it worked.
 
 Jeffery
 
 
 On Dec 8, 2010, at 10:25 AM, P N Stenquist wrote:
 
 I had Mamiyaflex C2 and a C220. I always wanted the C330, which has some 
 sort of parallax correction, so the upper lens shows you the frame for the 
 lower lens. Shot with the TLR for many years and made quite a bit of money 
 with it. I used just the 80mm lens for most of that time, but later added 
 the 250mm. It takes a while to get used to seeing things reversed in the 
 viewinder. That was especially difficult shooting pans of race cars, 
 because they came through my viewfinder from the wrong end! But it was a 
 great camera, and the lenses were excellent for the time.
 Paul
 On Dec 8, 2010, at 5:19 AM, Thibouille wrote:
 
 Got myself (not arrived yet) a Mamiya C330 TLR (with 80/2.8) for a
 couple reasons:
 
 * I want to do film
 * Medium format
 * 6x4,5 is bigger than 35mm but if going MF, just do it completely.
 6x4,5 is somewhat small IMO
 * The challenge of using a TLR, waist level finder (although prism is
 available as well)
 * The challenge of square format, 6x6
 * Interchangeable lenses on a TLR (quite rare)
 * Mechanical beast, easier to repair than electronic ones if it needs to.
 
 Now, I know Darren have one, he wrote so a couple weeks ago.
 Darren and others, what could you advise as for usage of such cameras?
 Like usage with or without tripod, what kind of subjects, 120 film 
 handling etc.
 
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RE: Is there anyone on the list in, or near Butte Montana?

2010-12-09 Thread John Sessoms

From: Larry Colen


I've got a friend that I've known since he was a few days old. His
brother was my best friend when he was born. His wife just bought a
K100d and a couple of lenses from someone she was helping sell gear
on ebay.

They live in Butte Montana, and while I can give some help over
email, it's a lot better if someone can show things in person.


It's probably absolutely no help at all, but Rocky Mountain School of 
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Re: BW film home made processing... now that is cheap (+smartphone helpful apps)

2010-12-09 Thread David J Brooks
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 7:13 AM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 Old school is a timer on the wall, an interval stopwatch, or counting 
 silently to yourself:-).
 Paul

I used a stop watch when i was doing it at home and at trhe High
school night classes i took from 2001-2004.
I also used Iron Butterfly's Inagodadavida and souped till the drum solo.:-)

Dave
 On Dec 8, 2010, at 7:01 AM, d...@rileyelf.free-online.co.uk wrote:

 I know it's a bit 'old school' but I use an app on my Palm called Foto
 Timer, http://www.jan-exner.de/software/fototimer.html it allows interval
 setting (for inversions etc.) with alarms. It also allows chained
 processes with pauses etc, so you can chain multiple processes used with a
 pause in between each.
 If anyone is still using a Palm it's well worth a download.

 Drew.




 Just understood how cheaper it was to process film in house.
 Got material from my brother, just needed the chemical part.
 Got developper + fixer for 30 Euros, dunno if it is about a right
 price or not...

 I can process 40 35mm films with that, compared to 6 euros per film
 when dropped to my reseller. Ouch !

 BTW, just found out there're a couple nice apps helping, at least on
 iPhone.
 The Massive Dev Chart, ( http://www.digitaltruth.com ) is available
 with complete database of developper/film times, stopwatch etc.
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Re: 10th GFM-PDML Anniversary

2010-12-09 Thread David J Brooks
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 9:15 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 From: Kenton Brede

 Christine, what is GFM?  And what are you hoping to go to?  Just curious.
 Thanks,
 Kent

 On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 12:08 AM, Christine  Aguila
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  Just wondering: ? who's going? ?Is there hope for a big do? ?Cheers,
  Christine
 

 GFM is Grandfather Mountain in North Carolina. More specifically it's the
 Grandfather Mountain Nature Photography Weekend.

 http://www.grandfather.com/planning_your_visit/events/nphoto.php

 There is usually a fair contingent from the PDML in attendance.

 The number of photographers in attendance is limited by the number of seats
 in the auditorium at Grandfather Mountain - I think it's something like 160
 people can attend. Registration opens at midnight April First, and it is
 usually fully subscribed by about 8:00am.

 I went in 2009  2010. I registered online at about 10 minutes after
 midnight and was around number 100 on the list both times.

Just to add, if you do not want to participate in the seminars and
contest, you can get the guest ticket(i think thats what they call it)
and that gives you day access to the park, but your supposed to be out
when the street lights come on.;-)

Dave

 I hope to attend in 2011 as well. Hopefully I won't have to spend the
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Re: My thoughts on buying cameras

2010-12-09 Thread John Sessoms

From: Godfrey DiGiorgi


LOL! ... they have you in their grip, Bob. ;-)

I only carry a backup body when I'm doing an assignment. Otherwise, I
have a spare body at home, packed and ready to ship, in case what I'm
using packs it in unexpectedly. Nothing's ever broken on me when I've
been traveling.



I'm carrying three cameras on my China trip, K20D with K10 as backup. 
The third camera is the LX I'm planning to use to shoot my last two 
rolls of Kodachrome.


This time when I disappear off list, y'all will know it's nothing to 
worry about. 8-D


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Re: PPG Landmark: 200

2010-12-09 Thread Walter Gilbert

 Congratulations, Bong!

Now, if they'll just keep lowering their standards, I should hit 200 
right around, oh -- 2030, give or take.


-- Walt

On 12/8/2010 7:40 PM, Bong Manayon wrote:

Just made 200  http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/5180461525/

Interestingly, it was one of my K-r road test photos.  For the
morbidly curious, it took me 2 years (2007 to 2009; about the same
time last year) to reach 100; then a year to reach 200.  I sometimes
wonder if I'm getting better or the standards are getting lower...

Whatever.

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Re: OT: Digital ice - a question

2010-12-09 Thread Nick David Wright
I'm so far very impressed with digital ICE, it really works for me.

The only caveat I know of is that it does not work with real BW film.

~Nick

On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 9:08 AM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:

 So... sic transit 1640... Im geting the V500... it says it comes with
 Digital Ice...

 I think I remember a cautionary note about using it...  from some one here
 (or from my stock agency)

 any rants or raves guys?

 Thank goodness the scanner only costs $112  -- and that some of you (along
 with others) bought my calendars...!

 T I A for any comments

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Re: PESO: A Swallowtail in Respite

2010-12-09 Thread Walter Gilbert

   Thanks, John.  That's the way I see it, too.

On 12/9/2010 8:47 AM, John Sessoms wrote:


My opinion - and that's all it is - is that the softened focus version 
is more pleasing to the eye. Makes it easier to focus on the butterfly 
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Re: The New Blog: Real Canadians Wearing Real Hats!

2010-12-09 Thread Walter Gilbert

   Great idea, Frank!



On 12/8/2010 10:29 PM, frank theriault wrote:

This should be fun:

http://realcanadianhats.blogspot.com/

;-)

I'll be posting my Big Winter Hats on this space from now on.  The
title photo is new to the list, but oh so appropriate given the
blog's title, no?

Hope you enjoy!

cheers,
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Re: OT: Digital ice - a question

2010-12-09 Thread Charles Robinson
On Dec 9, 2010, at 9:35, Nick David Wright wrote:

 I'm so far very impressed with digital ICE, it really works for me.
 
 The only caveat I know of is that it does not work with real BW film.
 

..and you get very bizarre-looking results with Kodachrome as well.

 -Charles

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Re: OT: Digital ice - a question

2010-12-09 Thread Jeffery Smith
It will save you hours of spotting dust or scratches. Just don't try it with 
silver halide films. The ICE process will take an eternity and you'll end up 
with clumped garbage as a scan. If you are interested in BW, use the Kodak 
BW400 or Ilford XP2. If you want grain, you'll have to add it in PS.

Jeffery


On Dec 9, 2010, at 9:08 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

 
 So... sic transit 1640... Im geting the V500... it says it comes with 
 Digital Ice...
 
 I think I remember a cautionary note about using it...  from some one here 
 (or from my stock agency)
 
 any rants or raves guys?
 
 Thank goodness the scanner only costs $112  -- and that some of you (along 
 with others) bought my calendars...!
 
 T I A for any comments
 
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Re: Ned plugs Mark's book and PDML

2010-12-09 Thread Steven Desjardins
Very nice.  It's good to see Mark's work get some attention, not to
mention the PDML.

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 Mark was wondering if they'd received the book he sent, and here's the
 answer. The book looks even better in person than it did online,
 unlike some of us. You're getting pretty good at book layout,
 Mark...and setting the bar very high for yourself for the upcoming
 PDML Annual. We expect nothing but 10% more than the best  :-)


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Re: My thoughts on buying cameras

2010-12-09 Thread Steven Desjardins
Some enthusiasts take considerable pleasure in the act of using the
equipment.  (no snide comments, please.)   For them, the particular
camera has to feel right in the hand or it gets left behind.  This
becomes a harder thing to judge in a mostly buy online field like
photography has become.

On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 10:30 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 From: Godfrey DiGiorgi

 LOL! ... they have you in their grip, Bob. ;-)

 I only carry a backup body when I'm doing an assignment. Otherwise, I
 have a spare body at home, packed and ready to ship, in case what I'm
 using packs it in unexpectedly. Nothing's ever broken on me when I've
 been traveling.


 I'm carrying three cameras on my China trip, K20D with K10 as backup. The
 third camera is the LX I'm planning to use to shoot my last two rolls of
 Kodachrome.

 This time when I disappear off list, y'all will know it's nothing to worry
 about. 8-D

 It's almost here, and I'm getting pretty excited. Already wearing my
 passport in a little pouch that hangs around my neck so I won't take a
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Re: Pentax slogan

2010-12-09 Thread Steven Desjardins
I like this one, Mark:

It's not your father's Pentax. (But you should see if he still has
those lenses)

On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 7:27 AM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote:
 Pentax pancake primes because size does matter.

 2010/12/9 Cory Waters cbwat...@bellsouth.net:
 Yeah, you can do that with a Pentax.

 It's not your father's Pentax. (But you should see if he still has those
 lenses)

 Right, but Pentax invented it.

 Pentax, the official lens of Cottycam's bastardizations.

 Nobody borrows your lenses when you own Pentax.

 Pentax DSLR, Stand out on the edge of the crowd

 CW


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 Last night when someone saw my camera she comented:
 Pentax, the poor man's Nikon.
 What else could we do with this:
 Cannon, for the skilful photographer.
 Or how about Pentax 645D, Hasselblad on a budget.
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Re: Pentax slogan

2010-12-09 Thread Walter Gilbert

 PENTAX:  One release away from perfection.

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Last night when someone saw my camera she comented:
Pentax, the poor man's Nikon.
What else could we do with this:
Cannon, for the skilful photographer.
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Re: PESO - Hanukkah Lights

2010-12-09 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Quite nice indeed, Frank.

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On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 6:41 AM, frank theriault
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 Last night was the last night of Hanukkah, so all the candles in the
 Menorah were lit.  Looked pretty cool, I thought:

 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/12/hanukkah-lights.html

 Hope you enjoy.  No comment really required (but you may if you wish).

 cheers,
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Re: The New Blog: Real Canadians Wearing Real Hats!

2010-12-09 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Great series, Frank!

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On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 11:29 PM, frank theriault
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 This should be fun:

 http://realcanadianhats.blogspot.com/

 ;-)

 I'll be posting my Big Winter Hats on this space from now on.  The
 title photo is new to the list, but oh so appropriate given the
 blog's title, no?

 Hope you enjoy!

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Re: OT: Digital ice - a question

2010-12-09 Thread P. J. Alling
Don't try using it with traditional BW film, ICE thinks the entire 
negative is dust...


On 12/9/2010 10:08 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:


So... sic transit 1640... Im geting the V500... it says it comes with 
Digital Ice...


I think I remember a cautionary note about using it...  from some one 
here (or from my stock agency)


any rants or raves guys?

Thank goodness the scanner only costs $112  -- and that some of you 
(along with others) bought my calendars...!


T I A for any comments

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Re: My thoughts on buying cameras

2010-12-09 Thread P. J. Alling
Will you be able to the the Kodachrome in for processing before the 
deadline?


http://www.dwaynesphoto.com/

On 12/9/2010 10:30 AM, John Sessoms wrote:

From: Godfrey DiGiorgi


LOL! ... they have you in their grip, Bob. ;-)

I only carry a backup body when I'm doing an assignment. Otherwise, I
have a spare body at home, packed and ready to ship, in case what I'm
using packs it in unexpectedly. Nothing's ever broken on me when I've
been traveling.



I'm carrying three cameras on my China trip, K20D with K10 as backup. 
The third camera is the LX I'm planning to use to shoot my last two 
rolls of Kodachrome.


This time when I disappear off list, y'all will know it's nothing to 
worry about. 8-D


It's almost here, and I'm getting pretty excited. Already wearing my 
passport in a little pouch that hangs around my neck so I won't take a 
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Re: Two more PESOs from Boris

2010-12-09 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Boris, when I was going through some only travel images.  I found the
one where I tried to capture the varieties of color in the gelato
case.  Like you, I found too much dark around it.  I also had some
hardware for the door that block the left side.  I wound up cropping
severely, and this was the best I could do:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12063813

On the whole, I like your ice cream image better.

Dan
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On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 1:01 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi!

 http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/11/peso-2010-55-ice-cream.html and
 http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/11/peso-2010-56-empty-street.html

 Be brutal and honest.

 Boris

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Re: BW film home made processing... now that is cheap (+smartphone helpful apps)

2010-12-09 Thread John Graves
Now being retired, I have also given some thought to the (film) cameras 
and gear that I have accumulated but don't use. So home processing 
appeared on the scene. Am I better off sticking with Tri-X or has 
anybody had any experience with Kentmere (sp) that is being pushed a bit 
by one of the local stores.  Also seeing some reports about a new to me 
Kodak developer (Xtol)that is easy to use and environmentally friendly. 
 Given a choice I think I'd buy the small packets of D-76.


Also, I am on a septic system.  I read on the web that developers and 
stop baths are fairly close to vinegar and also fairly dilute. So there 
is not any problems flushing them (literally.)  But the fixer does 
contain silver and some other potentially nasty stuff.  Flush it also? 
Or mix everything together and flush it.  That is another suggestion I saw.


As a really secondary question, as I was inventorying my gear, I came 
across a really old pack of microdol.  Is there a shelf life for sealed 
package of chemicals?  Is microdol still available?


John Graves
WA1JG
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Thibouille wrote:

2010/12/8 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com:

Tri-X in D-76 is pretty forgiving, you can soup in a bathroom and pretty
much time it with your pulse.  Learned to do that in a Photojournalism
course taught by a semi-retried Photo-Editor from the Providence Journal.



 Except for the fact that that the film used was 35mm rather than 4x5 it was
a technique that wouldn't have been alien to Weegee.






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Re: BW film home made processing... now that is cheap (+smartphone helpful apps)

2010-12-09 Thread P. J. Alling
Silver salts were used as an antibiotic, maybe still are.  Large 
quantities would have a detrimental effect on your septic system, but 
you'd probably have to be processing in commercial quantities for it to 
be a serious problems.  If you're really worried about the stop bath, 
Ilford's indicator stop bath is based on citric acid, (vitamin C).



On 12/9/2010 12:13 PM, John Graves wrote:
Now being retired, I have also given some thought to the (film) 
cameras and gear that I have accumulated but don't use. So home 
processing appeared on the scene. Am I better off sticking with Tri-X 
or has anybody had any experience with Kentmere (sp) that is being 
pushed a bit by one of the local stores.  Also seeing some reports 
about a new to me Kodak developer (Xtol)that is easy to use and 
environmentally friendly.  Given a choice I think I'd buy the small 
packets of D-76.


Also, I am on a septic system.  I read on the web that developers and 
stop baths are fairly close to vinegar and also fairly dilute. So 
there is not any problems flushing them (literally.)  But the fixer 
does contain silver and some other potentially nasty stuff.  Flush it 
also? Or mix everything together and flush it.  That is another 
suggestion I saw.


As a really secondary question, as I was inventorying my gear, I came 
across a really old pack of microdol.  Is there a shelf life for 
sealed package of chemicals?  Is microdol still available?


John Graves
WA1JG
jh.gra...@verizon.net

Thibouille wrote:

2010/12/8 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com:
Tri-X in D-76 is pretty forgiving, you can soup in a bathroom and 
pretty

much time it with your pulse.  Learned to do that in a Photojournalism
course taught by a semi-retried Photo-Editor from the Providence 
Journal.


 Except for the fact that that the film used was 35mm rather than 
4x5 it was

a technique that wouldn't have been alien to Weegee.









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Re: My thoughts on buying cameras

2010-12-09 Thread P. J. Alling

Well somehow that didn't make any sense, but you probably know what I mean.

On 12/9/2010 11:51 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:
Will you be able to the the Kodachrome in for processing before the 
deadline?


http://www.dwaynesphoto.com/

On 12/9/2010 10:30 AM, John Sessoms wrote:

From: Godfrey DiGiorgi


LOL! ... they have you in their grip, Bob. ;-)

I only carry a backup body when I'm doing an assignment. Otherwise, I
have a spare body at home, packed and ready to ship, in case what I'm
using packs it in unexpectedly. Nothing's ever broken on me when I've
been traveling.



I'm carrying three cameras on my China trip, K20D with K10 as backup. 
The third camera is the LX I'm planning to use to shoot my last two 
rolls of Kodachrome.


This time when I disappear off list, y'all will know it's nothing to 
worry about. 8-D


It's almost here, and I'm getting pretty excited. Already wearing my 
passport in a little pouch that hangs around my neck so I won't take 
a chance on forgetting it when the big day arrives.










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Re: DA 16-45 f/4 lens

2010-12-09 Thread Thibouille
David, I wille echo what others already said.
The 16-45 is a very fine lens, better than reviews will make you believe it is.

And yes, the 50-135 is a slow AF lens, but what a hell of an IQ  :o
Simply stellar !

2010/12/4 David Mann d...@multisport.net.nz:
 I just noticed the camera shop's ad also has this lens on special (not the 
 16-50 f/2.8 unfortunately).  What's the group's consensus on this one?  It 
 might be a bad assumption that PDML can agree on anything, but it's worth a 
 try.

 Cheers,
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PESO: Reflecting Baltimore -- New Version

2010-12-09 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I played around some more with this image, and cropped and adjusted it
a bit.  I put the new version on my blog, right below the original.  I
would appreciate frank comments on which works best, and on the
weaknesses of each.

http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?nav=mainwebtag=djm1963entry=20

Thanks in advance for your help.

As always, Comments, Suggestions, Criticisms and Abuse are Welcome.

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Re: Help needed for MacBook Pro-Dell Monitor connection...

2010-12-09 Thread eckinator
2010/12/9 David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com:

 Buy a second skunk.??

I'll take it you'll volunteer your school bus for the running over?
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Re: BW film home made processing... now that is cheap (+smartphone helpful apps)

2010-12-09 Thread Thibouille
(white) Vinegar is OK if diluted (I think about 2%-3% acid once diluted).
Some do not make proper stop bath but use water to rinse and straight to fixer.
Why not after all if develop time isn't critical. Stop bath isn't
needed (on a chemical point of view) anyway.
Some others use old fixer. Dunno if this is a great idea but it seems
to work OK.

Xtol is used at school, dunno the advantages compared to other
developers, but this mean they find it to be good enough.

2010/12/9 John Graves jh.gra...@verizon.net:
 Now being retired, I have also given some thought to the (film) cameras and
 gear that I have accumulated but don't use. So home processing appeared on
 the scene. Am I better off sticking with Tri-X or has anybody had any
 experience with Kentmere (sp) that is being pushed a bit by one of the local
 stores.  Also seeing some reports about a new to me Kodak developer
 (Xtol)that is easy to use and environmentally friendly.  Given a choice I
 think I'd buy the small packets of D-76.

 Also, I am on a septic system.  I read on the web that developers and stop
 baths are fairly close to vinegar and also fairly dilute. So there is not
 any problems flushing them (literally.)  But the fixer does contain silver
 and some other potentially nasty stuff.  Flush it also? Or mix everything
 together and flush it.  That is another suggestion I saw.

 As a really secondary question, as I was inventorying my gear, I came across
 a really old pack of microdol.  Is there a shelf life for sealed package of
 chemicals?  Is microdol still available?

 John Graves
 WA1JG
 jh.gra...@verizon.net

 Thibouille wrote:

 2010/12/8 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com:

 Tri-X in D-76 is pretty forgiving, you can soup in a bathroom and pretty
 much time it with your pulse.  Learned to do that in a Photojournalism
 course taught by a semi-retried Photo-Editor from the Providence Journal.

  Except for the fact that that the film used was 35mm rather than 4x5 it
 was
 a technique that wouldn't have been alien to Weegee.




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Re: OT - Mamiya Cxxx TLRs and TLR in general

2010-12-09 Thread Thibouille
Understood, thanks.

2010/12/9 Jeffery Smith jsmith...@bellsouth.net:
 By the way, I always used the pistol side grip. Get one of those if you can. 
 Otherwise, the camera is very awkward to hold and shoot.

 Jeffery


 On Dec 9, 2010, at 2:49 AM, Thibouille wrote:

 Thanks to all of you. Very helpful.
 I'm eager to receive the camera and process the films.

 Le mercredi 8 décembre 2010, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com a écrit :
 I had the C330 for a bit way back in the 1970s.

 There is a 'top of frame' indicator needle. As you focus closer, it
 drops to show where the top of the frame for a given focusing distance
 would be. So you focus and frame, then raise the camera vertically to
 put the top edge of the frame along the indicator line. The shift is
 only large when you're working in the very close range, for a normal
 to wide lens. With the tele lenses it becomes a bit more significant
 ... best to frame a little loose. Plenty of negative to work with so
 shoot loose and crop ... :-)

 Mamiya made a gizmo for the tripod that worked with the indicator too.
 The indicator had a scale of numbers, IIRC, and you could easily raise
 the camera with gizmo to the number once you achieved proper focus.

 For me, the C330 was always a tripod camera. Held with pistol grip and
 porroflex viewfinder, it was a large and heavy beast to tote around.
 For any hand-held work, I far preferred a Rolleiflex TLR (which had a
 more sophisticated parallax compensation built into the viewfinder
 system albeit for a fixed lens with a more limited close focusing
 range).

 On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 8:34 AM, Jeffery Smith jsmith...@bellsouth.net 
 wrote:
 As I recall, the C330 deals with parallax by having a needle enter the 
 viewfinder field, cropping part of the field that would be cropped due to 
 parallax. Not very sophisticated, but it worked.

 Jeffery


 On Dec 8, 2010, at 10:25 AM, P N Stenquist wrote:

 I had Mamiyaflex C2 and a C220. I always wanted the C330, which has some 
 sort of parallax correction, so the upper lens shows you the frame for 
 the lower lens. Shot with the TLR for many years and made quite a bit of 
 money with it. I used just the 80mm lens for most of that time, but later 
 added the 250mm. It takes a while to get used to seeing things reversed 
 in the viewinder. That was especially difficult shooting pans of race 
 cars, because they came through my viewfinder from the wrong end! But it 
 was a great camera, and the lenses were excellent for the time.
 Paul
 On Dec 8, 2010, at 5:19 AM, Thibouille wrote:

 Got myself (not arrived yet) a Mamiya C330 TLR (with 80/2.8) for a
 couple reasons:

 * I want to do film
 * Medium format
 * 6x4,5 is bigger than 35mm but if going MF, just do it completely.
 6x4,5 is somewhat small IMO
 * The challenge of using a TLR, waist level finder (although prism is
 available as well)
 * The challenge of square format, 6x6
 * Interchangeable lenses on a TLR (quite rare)
 * Mechanical beast, easier to repair than electronic ones if it needs to.

 Now, I know Darren have one, he wrote so a couple weeks ago.
 Darren and others, what could you advise as for usage of such cameras?
 Like usage with or without tripod, what kind of subjects, 120 film 
 handling etc.

 Thank you much.

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Re: BW film home made processing... now that is cheap (+smartphone helpful apps)

2010-12-09 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 12:13 PM, John Graves jh.gra...@verizon.net wrote:

 Also seeing some reports about a new to me Kodak developer
 (Xtol)that is easy to use and environmentally friendly.

Xtol was my standard developer when I dabbled in the darkroom, in the
early 2000s.  I used it on a wide variety of film (APX 25 to Delta
3200+) with good results.  I found it easy to work with.  My darkroom
was very warm, and I was able to use diluted solutions (1:2 or 1:3) to
get long enough development times.  In a cooler darkroom, you could
use it straight or at 1:1.  It's an ascorbic acid developer (Vitamin
C) so, as you say, environmentally friendly.  Almost good enough to
drink.

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Re: BW film home made processing... now that is cheap (+smartphone helpful apps)

2010-12-09 Thread Jeffery Smith
I hate Microdol as it is a grain-dissolving developer that robs you of 
sharpness. XTOL is probably as good as D76 and won't hurt your septic system. 
They don't sell the XTOL in small packets anymore, so you have to make a bunch. 

I love Prescysol for just about everything. You mix it and discard it (highly 
diluted). You can get it from Photographer's Formulary. Get a few syringes for 
measuring the concentrate. I also love PMK-pyro, another highly diluted 
one-shot developer, but you have to be pickier with films for that developer.

Jeffery



On Dec 9, 2010, at 11:13 AM, John Graves wrote:

 Now being retired, I have also given some thought to the (film) cameras and 
 gear that I have accumulated but don't use. So home processing appeared on 
 the scene. Am I better off sticking with Tri-X or has anybody had any 
 experience with Kentmere (sp) that is being pushed a bit by one of the local 
 stores.  Also seeing some reports about a new to me Kodak developer 
 (Xtol)that is easy to use and environmentally friendly.  Given a choice I 
 think I'd buy the small packets of D-76.
 
 Also, I am on a septic system.  I read on the web that developers and stop 
 baths are fairly close to vinegar and also fairly dilute. So there is not any 
 problems flushing them (literally.)  But the fixer does contain silver and 
 some other potentially nasty stuff.  Flush it also? Or mix everything 
 together and flush it.  That is another suggestion I saw.
 
 As a really secondary question, as I was inventorying my gear, I came across 
 a really old pack of microdol.  Is there a shelf life for sealed package of 
 chemicals?  Is microdol still available?
 
 John Graves
 WA1JG
 jh.gra...@verizon.net
 
 Thibouille wrote:
 2010/12/8 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com:
 Tri-X in D-76 is pretty forgiving, you can soup in a bathroom and pretty
 much time it with your pulse.  Learned to do that in a Photojournalism
 course taught by a semi-retried Photo-Editor from the Providence Journal.
 Except for the fact that that the film used was 35mm rather than 4x5 it was
 a technique that wouldn't have been alien to Weegee.
 
 
 
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Re: BW film home made processing... now that is cheap (+smartphone helpful apps)

2010-12-09 Thread John Graves

jeffery,

Xtol raises another question.  I think I still have gallon brown plastic 
jugs in the garage that I had used for storage of developer etc. during 
a previous run at home processing.  Assuming it has been more than 10 
years since they were touched, can you, or anyone, suggest a cleaning 
method that would make them usable?

John Graves
WA1JG
jh.gra...@verizon.net

Jeffery Smith wrote:
I hate Microdol as it is a grain-dissolving developer that robs you of sharpness. XTOL is probably as good as D76 and won't hurt your septic system. They don't sell the XTOL in small packets anymore, so you have to make a bunch. 


I love Prescysol for just about everything. You mix it and discard it (highly 
diluted). You can get it from Photographer's Formulary. Get a few syringes for 
measuring the concentrate. I also love PMK-pyro, another highly diluted 
one-shot developer, but you have to be pickier with films for that developer.

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Re: BW film home made processing... now that is cheap (+smartphone helpful apps)

2010-12-09 Thread Jeffery Smith
I have always used amber glass because of the gradual hardening of plastic jugs 
over time. Clorox oxidizes just about everything. I don't know of another 
substance that would clean them up without affecting the plastic. If you invest 
in some 500ml amber glass bottles, you can get them squeaky clean, and can fill 
them up to the tippy top to eliminate the air.

One caveat about XTOL...when it goes bad, it doesn't look bad (doesn't get 
brown). If you develop with it after it has started going bad, you will get 
extremely thin negatives. I tried using Patterson ascorbic acid developer (the 
one formulated by the late Geoffrey Crawley). By the time it got from England 
to the US, it was dead.

Kodak's HC110 is a reliable one-shot dilution from concentrate. You wouldn't 
have to fool around with jugs. It has many of the characteristics of D76.

And for every combination of everything, look at www.digitaltruth.com and click 
on the massive development chart.

Jeffery


On Dec 9, 2010, at 12:20 PM, John Graves wrote:

 jeffery,
 
 Xtol raises another question.  I think I still have gallon brown plastic jugs 
 in the garage that I had used for storage of developer etc. during a previous 
 run at home processing.  Assuming it has been more than 10 years since they 
 were touched, can you, or anyone, suggest a cleaning method that would make 
 them usable?
 John Graves
 WA1JG
 jh.gra...@verizon.net
 
 Jeffery Smith wrote:
 I hate Microdol as it is a grain-dissolving developer that robs you of 
 sharpness. XTOL is probably as good as D76 and won't hurt your septic 
 system. They don't sell the XTOL in small packets anymore, so you have to 
 make a bunch. I love Prescysol for just about everything. You mix it and 
 discard it (highly diluted). You can get it from Photographer's Formulary. 
 Get a few syringes for measuring the concentrate. I also love PMK-pyro, 
 another highly diluted one-shot developer, but you have to be pickier with 
 films for that developer.
 Jeffery
 
 
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Re: PESO: Reflecting Baltimore -- New Version

2010-12-09 Thread David J Brooks
On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 2:00 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 I like the looser crop in the top photo. Seems brighter and cleaner.

 And don't call me Frank.:-)

 Dave

(Airplane I humour BTW)

Dave

 On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 I played around some more with this image, and cropped and adjusted it
 a bit.  I put the new version on my blog, right below the original.  I
 would appreciate frank comments on which works best, and on the
 weaknesses of each.

 http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?nav=mainwebtag=djm1963entry=20

 Thanks in advance for your help.

 As always, Comments, Suggestions, Criticisms and Abuse are Welcome.

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Re: PESO: Reflecting Baltimore -- New Version

2010-12-09 Thread David J Brooks
I like the looser crop in the top photo. Seems brighter and cleaner.

And don't call me Frank.:-)

Dave

On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
 I played around some more with this image, and cropped and adjusted it
 a bit.  I put the new version on my blog, right below the original.  I
 would appreciate frank comments on which works best, and on the
 weaknesses of each.

 http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?nav=mainwebtag=djm1963entry=20

 Thanks in advance for your help.

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Re: DA 16-45 f/4 lens

2010-12-09 Thread David J Brooks
On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Dario Bonazza
dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote:

 The only problem can be it only reaches 45mm, but that's hardly a surprise
 ;-)

 Dario

But its a 57 on an AP-C sensor.

(insert image of me ducking here.)

Dave

 - Original Message - From: David Mann d...@multisport.net.nz
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 I just noticed the camera shop's ad also has this lens on special (not the
 16-50 f/2.8 unfortunately).  What's the group's consensus on this one?  It
 might be a bad assumption that PDML can agree on anything, but it's worth a
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Re: DA 16-45 f/4 lens

2010-12-09 Thread David J Brooks
On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 2:03 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Dario Bonazza
 dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote:

 The only problem can be it only reaches 45mm, but that's hardly a surprise
 ;-)

 Dario

 But its a 57 on an AP-C sensor.

 (insert image of me ducking here.)

 Dave

Rats, I mean a 67. Forgot to carry.,

Dave

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Re: DA 16-45 f/4 lens

2010-12-09 Thread P N Stenquist

On Dec 9, 2010, at 2:04 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

 On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 2:03 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Dario Bonazza
 dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote:
 
 The only problem can be it only reaches 45mm, but that's hardly a surprise
 ;-)
 
 Dario
 
 But its a 57 on an AP-C sensor.
 
 (insert image of me ducking here.)
 
 Dave
 
 Rats, I mean a 67. Forgot to carry.,
 
Forgot to carry what?

 Dave
 
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 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 9:10 AM
 Subject: DA 16-45 f/4 lens
 
 
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 might be a bad assumption that PDML can agree on anything, but it's worth a
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Re: BW film home made processing... now that is cheap (+smartphone helpful apps)

2010-12-09 Thread Darren Addy
Another good page on HC-110: http://www.covingtoninnovations.com/hc110/

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Re: Pentax slogan

2010-12-09 Thread Joseph McAllister

On Dec 9, 2010, at 08:28 , Larry wrote wrote:

 Pentax, the poor man's Nikon.

I prefer : Pentax, the sensible photographer's Nikon.

Corollary : 

Nikon, for Photographers who missed finding Pentax.

Joseph McAllister
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The Big Bang was silent, and  invisible in it's beginning moments.
And now it is posit'd that it happened after a previous event!
— from the Pentaxian's thoughts on particle physics, so far.


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Re: laptop recommendation

2010-12-09 Thread Charles Robinson
On Dec 8, 2010, at 19:47, John Sessoms wrote:
 
 Everyone keeps telling me how much better Mac is than windoze, but they can't 
 figure out something as simple as how to store a not to do anything 
 instruction on a hard drive, and Micro$soft can?
 

If you read Mr. McAllister's post, he makes it clear that the reason Time 
Machine keeps fussing is that it is configured to run (ie, it is ENABLED) but 
has never been told what drive to back up to.

So... you have a please back me up automatically setting in place but have 
never given it permission to write to anything!

Each time it sees an eligible drive, it's like a little puppy: can I write 
here?  how about now?  this drive?

Turn Time Machine off, already, and then live in blissful, un-backed-up, no-nag 
freedom.  

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Re: laptop recommendation

2010-12-09 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 3:51 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote:
 On Dec 8, 2010, at 19:47, John Sessoms wrote:

 Everyone keeps telling me how much better Mac is than windoze, but they 
 can't figure out something as simple as how to store a not to do anything 
 instruction on a hard drive, and Micro$soft can?


 If you read Mr. McAllister's post, he makes it clear that the reason Time 
 Machine keeps fussing is that it is configured to run (ie, it is ENABLED) but 
 has never been told what drive to back up to.

If you read Mr. Sessom's post, he says The computer belongs to the
school, and I'm not allowed to change any of the settings on the
computer. So telling him to change settings on the computer is not
likely to help.

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Re: OT: Russian names required.

2010-12-09 Thread Igor Roshchin


Sorry, but that name is not Russian.
The book setting happens outside of Russia, and all characters
are not Russians.
Moreover, if you didn't know, - the book was written by Nabokov
in English, and only than translated to Russian by the authors.

The Wikipedia gives a reasonable description of the book history:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolita

I like your translation! :-)

Cheers,

Igor


Tue Dec 7 10:55:16 CST 2010
Jeffery Smith wrote:

 I'd go with Lolita. Not sure if it is Russian, but the book was written
 by a Russian. Translated to modern English, it means little laugh out
 loud.
 
 Jeffery


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Re: Russian names required.

2010-12-09 Thread Igor Roshchin

That's the cat formerly known as 
khr-hr-hr
:-)

Wed Dec 8 10:19:40 CST 2010
Jeffery Smith wrote:

 My cat comes when the electric can opener calls her.
 
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Re: PESO: Reflecting Baltimore -- New Version

2010-12-09 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Frank,  er . . . . . Dave!

Dan

On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 2:00 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 I like the looser crop in the top photo. Seems brighter and cleaner.

 And don't call me Frank.:-)

 Dave

 On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 I played around some more with this image, and cropped and adjusted it
 a bit.  I put the new version on my blog, right below the original.  I
 would appreciate frank comments on which works best, and on the
 weaknesses of each.

 http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?nav=mainwebtag=djm1963entry=20

 Thanks in advance for your help.

 As always, Comments, Suggestions, Criticisms and Abuse are Welcome.

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Re: laptop recommendation

2010-12-09 Thread Charles Robinson
On Dec 9, 2010, at 14:55, Matthew Hunt wrote:

 On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 3:51 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote:
 On Dec 8, 2010, at 19:47, John Sessoms wrote:
 
 Everyone keeps telling me how much better Mac is than windoze, but they 
 can't figure out something as simple as how to store a not to do anything 
 instruction on a hard drive, and Micro$soft can?
 
 
 If you read Mr. McAllister's post, he makes it clear that the reason Time 
 Machine keeps fussing is that it is configured to run (ie, it is ENABLED) 
 but has never been told what drive to back up to.
 
 If you read Mr. Sessom's post, he says The computer belongs to the
 school, and I'm not allowed to change any of the settings on the
 computer. So telling him to change settings on the computer is not
 likely to help.
 

Sounds like he needs to talk to his IT department then.  Or go all techno with 
writing that do not use me for Time Machine file onto each and every external 
drive he plans to use...  Standard users on a Mac do not have the option to 
disable Time Machine.

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Re: laptop recommendation

2010-12-09 Thread David J Brooks
I use both actually.

I bought PC's as thats what we had at work and thats what i needed.
I  decided to get a laptop in 2005 and went through similar struggles
as to what.
I finally chose the iMac over a Toshiba laptop. I wanted it mainly for
on the road downloads and storage. Once i got into it, i started to
use the PC less and less.
I like the fact i can start up the Mac and be on the net or working on
a photo before the PC has closed the Intel splash screen
I need to upgrade the main computer, the PC has just about had it, and
have decided on the iMac.

Dave

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 I've decided to purchase a laptop for RAW image processing.  I'm also
 a budding nature audio recordist, so I'll be doing audio post
 processing as well.  So far I've only played with Bibble and Picassa a
 bit processing photos.  My plan is to give Photoshop and Lightroom a
 try.

 I would like to purchase a mac since it's unix based, but I need a
 more compelling reason than that to justify spending the extra money.

 Those of you who've used image processing software on both platforms,
 what reasons made you settle on one OS over the other for working
 images?

 Thanks,
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Re: DA 16-45 f/4 lens

2010-12-09 Thread David J Brooks
On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 2:39 PM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:

 On Dec 9, 2010, at 2:04 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

 On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 2:03 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Dario Bonazza
 dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote:

 The only problem can be it only reaches 45mm, but that's hardly a surprise
 ;-)

 Dario

 But its a 57 on an AP-C sensor.

 (insert image of me ducking here.)

 Dave

 Rats, I mean a 67. Forgot to carry.,

 Forgot to carry what?

The 1

Dave

 Dave

 - Original Message - From: David Mann d...@multisport.net.nz
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 Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 9:10 AM
 Subject: DA 16-45 f/4 lens


 I just noticed the camera shop's ad also has this lens on special (not the
 16-50 f/2.8 unfortunately).  What's the group's consensus on this one?  It
 might be a bad assumption that PDML can agree on anything, but it's worth 
 a
 try.

 Cheers,
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RE: My thoughts on buying cameras

2010-12-09 Thread Bob W
 Well somehow that didn't make any sense, but you probably know what I
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PESO: 'Cracked Up'

2010-12-09 Thread kwaller

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12068350

Taken this spring in the Grand Staircase - Escalante National Momument, 
Utah.


K20D, 70-210mm SMC F, Gitzo 3530LS, Bogen 375 mini gear head.

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Re: My thoughts on buying cameras

2010-12-09 Thread Ken Waller

Well somehow that didn't make any sense, but you probably know what I mean


MARK !

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From: Bob W p...@web-options.com

Subject: RE: My thoughts on buying cameras



Well somehow that didn't make any sense, but you probably know what I
mean.


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Re: laptop recommendation

2010-12-09 Thread John Sessoms

From: Matthew Montgomery


On Dec 8, 2010, at 12:46 AM, John Sessoms wrote:


OTOH, Time Machine ... not having any way to turn it off so it
won't bug me Do you want to use 'LaCie' to back up your hard
drive? every time I plug it into the school's computer.

If the school wants the computer backed up let 'em buy their own
damn drives. All I want to do is save my school work.

If the program was worth a damn, you could tell it NO one time
and tell it not to ever ask you about it again.

Windoze can do that, why can't Mac?

Try this. Create a file called '.com.apple.timemachine.donotpresent'
at the root of your portable drive. You might find it easier to do
this with the Terminal using the following command.

touch /Volumes/The Name of Your
Drive/.com.apple.timemachine.donotpresent

I am pretty sure I have see the option to never use a drive in the
Time Machine UI but perhaps something is amiss for you.



Thanks. I'll stop by the computer lab at school tomorrow and give that a 
try. When I get to Terminal, do I type in:


/Volumes/jsessoms_mac_drive/.com.apple.timemachine.donotpresent

(jsessoms_mac_drive is the name I gave my drive)

or do I need to type in:

touch /Volumes/jsessoms_mac_drive/.com.apple.timemachine.do not present

The school has the Time Machine UI locked down where I cannot get to it. 
That's what's amiss.


There are a couple of reasons I need the configuration stored on my 
drive rather on the schools machines.


They've got a program named Deep Freeze that dumps any changes made to 
the system while a student is logged on. Even if I could get into Time 
Machine and configure it, any changes I made would be wiped out when I 
log off.


Plus, I can't be sure I'll always be on the same computer, so I'd have 
to load that configuration on 75 different computers in three different 
labs.


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Re: Pentax slogan

2010-12-09 Thread Peter Loveday

Pentax: The official camera of Chicken Little.

-Original Message- 
From: Walter Gilbert

Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 3:00 AM
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Subject: Re: Pentax slogan

 PENTAX:  One release away from perfection.

On 12/5/2010 3:36 PM, Larry Colen (Droid Mail) wrote:

Last night when someone saw my camera she comented:
Pentax, the poor man's Nikon.
What else could we do with this:
Cannon, for the skilful photographer.
Or how about Pentax 645D, Hasselblad on a budget.
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Re: PESO: 'Cracked Up'

2010-12-09 Thread Steven Desjardins
Nice texture and geometry.

On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 6:07 PM,  kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12068350

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Re: My thoughts on buying cameras

2010-12-09 Thread John Sessoms
Except that the Second Law of Thermodynamics being what it is ... the 
universe trends toward maximum perversity.


You've just guaranteed yourself that if you ever do need your back-up 
gear shipped, UPS-FedEx-USPS-DHL is going to misdirect it to an 
auto-parts jobber somewhere in New Jersey where it will languish until 
you can no longer accomplish the job you needed it for.


8-D

From: Godfrey DiGiorgi


And if it does, the gear packed and ready to ship will be there in a
day. No biggie.

G

On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 9:31 PM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 8 December 2010 19:37, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote:

 LOL! ... they have you in their grip, Bob. ;-)

 I only carry a backup body when I'm doing an assignment. Otherwise, I
 have a spare body at home, packed and ready to ship, in case what I'm
 using packs it in unexpectedly. Nothing's ever broken on me when I've
 been traveling.


 You know what's going to happen on your next trip...


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Re: Russian names required.

2010-12-09 Thread eckinator
2010/12/9 Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org:

 That's the cat formerly known as
 khr-hr-hr

so that is where Pentax got the name...
over to the slogan thread...
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RE: PESO - Hanukkah Lights

2010-12-09 Thread John Sessoms

From: frank theriault


Last night was the last night of Hanukkah, so all the candles in the
Menorah were lit.  Looked pretty cool, I thought:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/12/hanukkah-lights.html

Hope you enjoy.  No comment really required (but you may if you wish).

cheers,
frank


It is purty!

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Re: Help needed for MacBook Pro-Dell Monitor connection...

2010-12-09 Thread John Sessoms

From: David J Brooks


On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 10:13 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com
wrote:


Given a choice between a skunk run over by an 18-wheeler on a hot
summer day and Dell customer service, I'll take the skunk.

Can anyone provide some advice?


Mark!


Buy a second skunk.??

Dave


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RE: OT: Digital ice - a question

2010-12-09 Thread John Sessoms

From: Ann Sanfedele


So... sic transit 1640... Im geting the V500... it says it comes with
Digital Ice...

I think I remember a cautionary note about using it...  from some one
here (or from my stock agency)

any rants or raves guys?

Thank goodness the scanner only costs $112  -- and that some of you
(along with others) bought my calendars...!

T I A for any comments


Digital ICE doesn't work with BW, and has problems with Kodachrome.

I think it's because Kodachrome is basically a BW film with color added 
during processing. One explanation I've heard is that Kodachrome has a 
lot of residual silver grain after processing and Digital ICE thinks 
it's dust on the emulsion.


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Re: laptop recommendation

2010-12-09 Thread steve harley

On 2010-12-08 18:47 , John Sessoms wrote:

The computer belongs to the school, and I'm not allowed to change any of
the settings on the computer.


if the people who administer the computers at school were any good, 
they'd be turning this off automatically on every Mac they administer; 
it doesn't make any sense for Time Machine to even be turned on if, as 
you suggest, these are machines that are re-imaged every night; Macs are 
made to work well for individuals out of the box, but there are some 
changes that large installations that have good IT staff will make to 
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Re: laptop recommendation

2010-12-09 Thread P N Stenquist

On Dec 9, 2010, at 6:16 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

 From: Matthew Montgomery
 
 On Dec 8, 2010, at 12:46 AM, John Sessoms wrote:
 
 OTOH, Time Machine ... not having any way to turn it off so it
 won't bug me Do you want to use 'LaCie' to back up your hard
 drive? every time I plug it into the school's computer.
 
 If the school wants the computer backed up let 'em buy their own
 damn drives. All I want to do is save my school work.
 
 If the program was worth a damn, you could tell it NO one time
 and tell it not to ever ask you about it again.
 
 Windoze can do that, why can't Mac?
 Try this. Create a file called '.com.apple.timemachine.donotpresent'
 at the root of your portable drive. You might find it easier to do
 this with the Terminal using the following command.
 
 touch /Volumes/The Name of Your
 Drive/.com.apple.timemachine.donotpresent
 
 I am pretty sure I have see the option to never use a drive in the
 Time Machine UI but perhaps something is amiss for you.
 
 
 Thanks. I'll stop by the computer lab at school tomorrow and give that a try. 
 When I get to Terminal, do I type in:
 
 /Volumes/jsessoms_mac_drive/.com.apple.timemachine.donotpresent
 
 (jsessoms_mac_drive is the name I gave my drive)
 
 or do I need to type in:
 
 touch /Volumes/jsessoms_mac_drive/.com.apple.timemachine.do not present
 
 The school has the Time Machine UI locked down where I cannot get to it. 
 That's what's amiss.
 
 There are a couple of reasons I need the configuration stored on my drive 
 rather on the schools machines.
 
 They've got a program named Deep Freeze that dumps any changes made to the 
 system while a student is logged on. Even if I could get into Time Machine 
 and configure it, any changes I made would be wiped out when I log off.
 
 Plus, I can't be sure I'll always be on the same computer, so I'd have to 
 load that configuration on 75 different computers in three different labs.


On the other hand,  you could just click no when time machine asks if you 
want to use the drive as a backup. 


 
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Re: My thoughts on buying cameras

2010-12-09 Thread John Sessoms

From: P. J. Alling


Will you be able to the the Kodachrome in for processing before the
deadline?


I hope so. The deadline to have it at Dwayne's Photo is Dec 30.

We'll be arriving back in the U.S. at Newark Airport on Dec 22. 
According to the information on the airport's web site there is a Post 
Office Business Service Center in each of the terminals.


If I hit the ground running, USPS Express Mail should get it to Dwayne's 
on time.


I've already printed out the order forms for Dwayne's, and I have it on 
my To Do list to stop by the Post Office tomorrow for other business.


I'll see if I can pre-pay the Express Mail and have the stamped envelope 
with me when I arrive at Newark on the return trip. I'll also check and 
see if they have any information on actual USPS service points at Newark 
Airport.


They say No plan survives contact with the enemy, but that's the one I 
got right now. If worst comes to worst, I should be able to Express Mail 
(or FedEx) it from Raleigh on Dec 23.


I'm also carrying a couple backup rolls of E6 just in case.

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Re: laptop recommendation

2010-12-09 Thread John Sessoms

From: Charles Robinson


On Dec 9, 2010, at 14:55, Matthew Hunt wrote:


On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 3:51 PM, Charles Robinson
charl...@visi.com wrote:

On Dec 8, 2010, at 19:47, John Sessoms wrote:


Everyone keeps telling me how much better Mac is than
windoze, but they can't figure out something as simple as
how to store a not to do anything instruction on a hard
drive, and Micro$soft can?



If you read Mr. McAllister's post, he makes it clear that the
reason Time Machine keeps fussing is that it is configured to
run (ie, it is ENABLED) but has never been told what drive to
back up to.


If you read Mr. Sessom's post, he says The computer belongs to
the school, and I'm not allowed to change any of the settings on
the computer. So telling him to change settings on the computer
is not likely to help.


Sounds like he needs to talk to his IT department then.  Or go all
techno with writing that do not use me for Time Machine file onto
each and every external drive he plans to use...  Standard users on
a Mac do not have the option to disable Time Machine.


Already talked to the IT department months ago. He happened to be in 
the lab one day while I was working on an assignment, and he was 
absolutely no help.


So what I'm going to do is see if the suggested do not use me for Time 
Machine file will work.


I only have the one drive right now, but if the file does work, and I 
ever need another Mac formatted hard drive, I'll do it for that one too.


I don't really want to disable Time Machine, I just want it to leave 
me alone.


I'm perfectly happy for the school to use Time Machine for backup if 
they want to, but they don't need to be using my hard drive to do it.


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First photo at PPG

2010-12-09 Thread Theodore Beilby
Still can't submit to the PUG for the rejected theme. One accepted and nine 
still waiting review. 

http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/home#section=ARTISTsubSection=11214861subSubSection=1141language=EN


From the trip with Walter to Steel Creek. 

Ted
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Re: PPG Landmark: 200

2010-12-09 Thread Theodore Beilby
Congratulations Bong. I would hate to think that the standards are getting 
lower, My first accepted submission to the PPG today. 

Ted 
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Re: My thoughts on buying cameras

2010-12-09 Thread Theodore Beilby
Godfrey, Diane wants to know where you are going in China. She has made 2 trips 
there and wants to go back. She said she cried when she had to leave Tibet. 
Enjoy your trip. 

Ted
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Re: First photo at PPG

2010-12-09 Thread Walter Gilbert

   Beautiful shot, Ted!  Congratulations!

Was that at Steel Creek?

-- Walt

On 12/9/2010 7:06 PM, Theodore Beilby wrote:

Still can't submit to the PUG for the rejected theme. One accepted and nine
still waiting review.

http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/home#section=ARTISTsubSection=11214861subSubSection=1141language=EN


 From the trip with Walter to Steel Creek.

Ted
  The eye of the viewer becomes the eye of the Photographer. Albert Maysles





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FS: lots of stuff

2010-12-09 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
http://shop.ebay.com/dpconsult.com/m.html

I'm changing my lens selection over time.
Some others I have will also be available shortly, eg, A35/2.

Sincerely, 

Collin Brendemuehl 
http://kerygmainstitute.org 

He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose 
-- Jim Elliott 






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Re: First photo at PPG

2010-12-09 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
That is a fine image/  Congratulations.

Dan
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 8:06 PM, Theodore Beilby tbei...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 Still can't submit to the PUG for the rejected theme. One accepted and nine
 still waiting review.

 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/home#section=ARTISTsubSection=11214861subSubSection=1141language=EN


 From the trip with Walter to Steel Creek.

 Ted
  The eye of the viewer becomes the eye of the Photographer. Albert Maysles


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Re: OT: Digital ice - a question

2010-12-09 Thread Stan Halpin

On Dec 9, 2010, at 11:45 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:

 Don't try using it with traditional BW film, ICE thinks the entire negative 
 is dust...
 

That would be a good description of many of my negatives.

stan
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