Re: Vivian Maier, a street photographer discovered

2010-12-31 Thread Larry Colen

On Dec 30, 2010, at 11:58 PM, Chris Mitchell wrote:

 Fantastic stuff. Shame it wasn't around when many of us met in Chicago back
 in May. But then we had William Eggleston and Matisse. And, of course the
 PDML exhibition itself...

I liked her photos a lot better than the Eggleston exhibit. Frankly, most of 
Eggleston's photos made me appreciate how good the PDML exhibit was.


 
 Chris 
 
 
 This Chicago street photographer's work was discovered in a storage
 locker after she died. Looks like she shot with a Rollei TLR in the
 1950s. Baksed on  what is shown here, her work appears to be
 outstanding.
 http://www.vivianmaier.blogspot.com/
 
 
 
 
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RE: OT Ya know you're old when you remember...

2010-12-31 Thread Bob W
  Obviously you never played extreme croquette...
 
 Is it anything like playing Combat Frisbee with combination skill-saw
 blades?

no, it's about using the caldera of a volcano to deep fry mashed potatoes
coated in breadcrumbs.

B


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An official teaser

2010-12-31 Thread Dario Bonazza

For the article by me about shooting landscapes:
http://digidownload.libero.it/vitaferma/newsletterEP/Paesaggio.htm

Photos by Brian Walters, Thrain Vigfusson and Yours Truly.

Dario

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RE: PESO - The Sacred and The Profane

2010-12-31 Thread Bob W
 Okay, the title's a bit OTT, but it's what came to mind right after I
 shot it:
 
 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/12/sacred-and-profane.html
 

looks like he's swept her off her feet. 

B


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Re: OT: '7 of 9' (was COMPLETELY OT! Roll Call...)

2010-12-31 Thread Dario Bonazza

Bruce Walker wrote:


Not to speak of T'pol:

http://img2.blogs.yahoo.co.jp/ybi/1/cc/05/saia555/folder/1147188/img_1147188_28418790_0?1246234046


Good use of DOF, BTW (just to barely get back on topic).

Dario



Anyone besides me think that's a composite image? And that's not real DoF? 
I bet they greenscreened her, took a shot of that corridor and 
Gaussian-blurred it, then dropped her on to it. See how the depth of blur 
doesn't increase with distance?


I also thought of that.

Dario 



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Re: Boris, few last PESOs of the year

2010-12-31 Thread Bong Manayon
What Chris said...

The composition of King David is great, except he sort of blends into
or swallowed up by the wall; if only the wall had a different texture.

Happy New Year!

Bong

On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Chris Mitchell
chris.mitch...@which.net wrote:

 Boris Liberman wrote:
 Hi!

 Few PESOs, likely the last ones for 2010, from me...

 http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/12/peso-2010-66-tram-ways.html

 http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/12/peso-2010-67-king-david-of-
 jerusalem.html

 http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/12/peso-2010-68-sandy-rain.html

 Be brutal and be honest.

 Hi Boris. The Sandy Rain one stands out for me. Impressionistic. I like both
 renderings, but on balance the colour one works best for me. But then again,
 so does the monotone one...

 Chris



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RE: PESO -- A winters sunset detail

2010-12-31 Thread Bob W
 Not a crop, second frame at 200mm
 
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--
 %20awintersunsetdetail.html
 

very nice. I took a similar shot earlier this week. I'll post it if I ever
get home.

B


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Re: An official teaser

2010-12-31 Thread Larry Colen

On Dec 31, 2010, at 12:46 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote:

 For the article by me about shooting landscapes:
 http://digidownload.libero.it/vitaferma/newsletterEP/Paesaggio.htm
 
 Photos by Brian Walters, Thrain Vigfusson and Yours Truly.
Beautiful photos, but the spelling's so bad I can't read a single word.

 
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Re: An official teaser

2010-12-31 Thread Dario Bonazza

Larry Colen wrote


On Dec 31, 2010, at 12:46 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote:


For the article by me about shooting landscapes:
http://digidownload.libero.it/vitaferma/newsletterEP/Paesaggio.htm

Photos by Brian Walters, Thrain Vigfusson and Yours Truly.

Beautiful photos, but the spelling's so bad I can't read a single word.


Blame Dave B. and be happy.

Dario

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Re: [Need a (flash)meter] Mamiya C330 TLR arrived

2010-12-31 Thread Thibouille
Thank you John.

2010/12/31 John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com:
 http://www.weinproducts.com/Camera-Produdcts.html

 From: Thibouille

 2010/12/30 Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com:

  You might look into Wein flashmeters for studiouse. They are plentiful
  and cheap and easy to use. For on the run, you really don't need a
  flashmeter for a single flash setup. I used to use the venerable
  Vivitar 283 and 285s. Dial in your ASA/ISO and you have a range of
  power settings that allow you to shoot anything under a given range at
  a given aperture. If you are bouncing the light you will need to
  compensate for the light loss, of course.

 Never heard of those. Couldn't find any on Ebay either.
 Can one find those in Europe ?

 Yep, outside isn't much of a problem, indeed.

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Re: An official teaser

2010-12-31 Thread paul stenquist
Some great pics. Very nice.
Paul
On Dec 31, 2010, at 3:46 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote:

 For the article by me about shooting landscapes:
 http://digidownload.libero.it/vitaferma/newsletterEP/Paesaggio.htm
 
 Photos by Brian Walters, Thrain Vigfusson and Yours Truly.
 
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Re: OT Ya know you're old when you remember...

2010-12-31 Thread John Sessoms
I started out cutting grass with an old reel type push mower; $1.50 a 
pop for 1/4 acre lots, included raking the cuttings  trimming around 
the foundation. That was the summer of 1960 when I was 11 years old.


I earned enough that by the end of the summer I was able to invest in a 
cheap power mower, so the next summer I made a whole lot more money for 
less effort.


My first real job where I worked for someone else came in 1962, when I 
turned 13 and could get a work permit from county social services. I got 
a job operating the popcorn machine  taking tickets at a local theater 
on weekends. It was the old fashion kind of kettle machine that all the 
theaters now try to imitate.


The new machines just aren't the same ... automated and pre-measured  
you can't get the old kind of lard based congealed fat we used because 
it's bad for your health. But the popcorn just doesn't taste as good as 
I remember.


I had to make myself a little chart just now of school grades, school 
years and my age at the time to figure out just when those jobs were, 
and *that* is when you know you're getting old.



From: Paul Stenquist


My first job was cleaning the kitchen and mopping the floors at
Retlaws Diner on 87th and Vernon in Chicago. It was 1959, and I was
only 11 years old. I was paid $5 to do the cleanup every Saturday.
Took me about 5 hours. I had to wash out all the garbage cans, throw
away all the rotten produce and scrape grease off the wall behind the
grill. I apparently didn't do a good enough job, because a city
health inspector made them hire an adult. But I had saved some of my
money, and I used it to buy a newspaper stand in the telephone
company building. Sold papers at my stand and between lanes of
traffic on Ashland Avenue for several years. When I was old enough to
drive, I sold the paper stand, bought a car for fifty bucks, and took
to delivering pizzas in the Blackstone and Avalon Park neighborhoods
on Chicago's south side. That was good money for a kid.
Paul

On Dec 30, 2010, at 2:48 PM, David J Brooks wrote:


On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Christine  Aguila
cagu...@earthlink.net wrote:

When I got my 1st job (McDonalds) and minimum wage was $2.10
an hour;  I felt very rich at 15.  The non-computerized cash
registers rattled like machine guns, and we had to give
change without the help of a cash register--and we were good
at it too. Cheers, Christine


My first real job as a kid was delivery the Toronto Telegram
news paper. The Saturday edition was as thick as a phone book, I
forget what i made(1966)but i also worked at a dish washer,
1966-1969, at a curling club at a $1.00 and hour. I to felt rich.
I quit that job to work on the ice, 1096-1971, at $1.35 and hour,
which was adult minimum wage back then. They raised the price of
tobacco to $0.50 a tin, so i quit.

Dave


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Pentax 67 resolution compared to 15 MP Digital

2010-12-31 Thread Jens
Hello list
I'm getting into photographing with Pentax 67. BTW: I just got the SMC 1:4 165 
mm Leaf Shutter lens for studio work. Nice lens :-).
Has anyone done tests, showing the resolution etc. of 6x7 film images compared 
to digital 14-15 Mp images, please?

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Re: PESO - The Flagpole

2010-12-31 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 12:37 AM, P. J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 One of the nicest flagpole shot's I've ever seen.

Thanks, Peter, and thanks to everyone else who looked.

cheers,
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Re: OT Ya know you're old when you remember...

2010-12-31 Thread John Sessoms

From: Brian Walters


On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 13:59 +, Collin Brendemuehl
coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote:

 Maverick, Sugarfoot and Rawhide


 Brian,

 I recall Maverick and Rawhide, but not Sugarfoot.
 Remember Tim Conway's Rango?  I think it lasted 6 or so episodes.
 Yes, Rawhide with Clint Eastwood.
 Death Valley Days with Ronnie.
 And Alfred Hitchcock Presents.



Can't remember 'Sugarfoot'?  More than half a century on I still can't
get the damn theme song out of my brain

Sugarfoot, Sugarfoot
Easy lopin', cattle ropin' Sugarfoot
Carefree as the tumbleweeds,etc

Never saw 'Rango' - probably didn't make it downunder.

The other western that was big here was 'Cheyenne' with Clint Walker.


I thought it was a skit on the Carol Burnett Show. Tim Conway was one of 
the regular actors on the show.


ABC apparently tried to make it into a sitcom, but it lasted only one 
season.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qi4S74U0dwI

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Re: OT: '7 of 9' (was COMPLETELY OT! Roll Call...)

2010-12-31 Thread John Sessoms

From: P. J. Alling


I was going to say something else but I'll stay technical.  There are a
number of fabrics that look painted on.  No one has a body so perfect
that the wardrobe department won't enhance it, and painting doesn't
allow that.  I know from personal close observation just what certain
costumes can do and what they look like.  Body painting is mostly for
amateurs.


... and the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit edition.

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Re: OT Ya know you're old when you remember...

2010-12-31 Thread John Sessoms

From: Joseph McAllister


On Dec 30, 2010, at 09:48 , Christine Aguila wrote:


When I got my 1st job (McDonalds) and minimum wage was $2.10 an
hour;  I felt very rich at 15.  The non-computerized cash
registers rattled like machine guns, and we had to give change
without the help of a cash register--and we were good at it too.


As I recall, my teenage working years, the minimum wage climbed from
42 to 50 cents, then to 65 cents per hour in 1958. I felt rich too,
but got pretty sore working for it. ,  The 3 AM to 7 AM shift at a
Dunkin' Doughnots, 2nd grill cook at a local Pixie Pancake next door
from 7 AM to 11 AM, then bagging groceries,  carrying the bags out to
the car and loading them at the Star Market from 11 AM to 3 PM.
Swimming at Morse's Pond in the late afternoon. Summer days were
certainly full!  Only bagging groceries in the late afternoon during
school.



That was likely STATE minimum wages. Your jobs probably weren't covered 
by the Federal minimum wage, which was $0.75/hour in 1950 and went up to 
$1.00/hour in 1956. There were a lot of gaps in what jobs were covered 
by the Federal minimum wage even into the late 90s. If fact, there still 
are today.


The first job I had that was covered by Federal minimum wage paid 
$1.25/hour.


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Re: OT GESO - C41 on the street

2010-12-31 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Haven't been shooting much C41 lately - it's been tri-x for me mostly. So I
 thought I'd burn off what I had in the fridge, to make room for more tri-x.
 Summer is so much fun

 http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/10/10_12/10_12_c41/index.htm

 Happy new year, everyone. I'm off to the markets for some sashimi and
 scallops for tonight.

Terrific stuff there!  I think I hate you even more...

;-)

Most of it seems to be shot from a very low angle.  Was it from the
hip, were you crouching or were you using a waist-level finder?

Come to think of it, what camera/lens combo?

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Re: PESO -- A winters sunset detail

2010-12-31 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 8:45 PM, P. J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 Not a crop, second frame at 200mm

 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20awintersunsetdetail.html

 Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 28-200mm f3.9~5.6

 As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.

Gorgeous.

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Re: Boris, few last PESOs of the year

2010-12-31 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 12:23 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi!

 Few PESOs, likely the last ones for 2010, from me...

 http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/12/peso-2010-66-tram-ways.html

 http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/12/peso-2010-67-king-david-of-jerusalem.html

 http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/12/peso-2010-68-sandy-rain.html

 Be brutal and be honest.

Sandy Rain stands out.  Works best in colour - everything seems to
blend together in monochrome.

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Re: PESO polishing glass

2010-12-31 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 12:48 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 On our way back to my friend's house from Golden Gate Park, we saw this 
 fellow at work. As far as I can tell, he is polishing the window glass:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5305590222/in/set-72157625703721486/

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Very dynamic image.  Love it!

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OT Mac migration application

2010-12-31 Thread David J Brooks
Happy New Year all.

Looks like my iMac will be ordered in a day or so with projected
delivery on the week of the 7th.

I have been told by a friend of mine, who has a graphics business and
uses Mac, as well as 1-2 lister, that i will be able to hook up my
iBook to the new iMac and transfer files and programs over.
My friend tells me to hook up at start up of the iMac but what I see
on the Apple site it does not suggest that.
I know i need a firewire adaptor from 400 to 800 but what are the
thoughts on migration. I don't want to screw this up.

Hopefully programs like PSCS1 and Toast 6 will run on the new OS.

Dave

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Re: Auntie's POTY

2010-12-31 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 6:22 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-11927856

Wow.

Thanks for posting this.

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Re: PESO Matthew

2010-12-31 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
 That is a strong portrait.  I like it, Larry.

Agreed!

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Re: Basic image editing Manual focussing

2010-12-31 Thread Eric Weir

On Dec 30, 2010, at 9:15 PM, paul stenquist wrote:

 A little shaky, still, on how I would do open aperture. Would I have to be 
 in Av mode to do that? 
 
 Assuming this is a Pentax DSLR, to do open aperture metering you'd have to be 
 using an A, F, FA or DA lens. You could set the mode selection to any setting 
 other than M or B. If the lens has an aperture ring, you'd set the ring  to 
 A, then choose your aperture or shutter speed using the camera's dials. The 
 camera would then meter with the aperture open and you would be free to focus 
 and shoot. Because the Pentax DSLRs don't have uhcertain hardware, 
 you can't do open aperture metering with M or K series lenses.

Thanks, Paul. Very helpful. I'm taking it my guess was in the ballpark, so 
maybe I'm learning.

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Re: Basic image editing Manual focussing

2010-12-31 Thread Eric Weir

On Dec 30, 2010, at 9:28 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote:

 you cant do open aperture metering with k/m lenses
 except the rare case of shooting only wide open on 
 aperture priority mode.

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Re: PESO polishing glass

2010-12-31 Thread David J Brooks
Love the stance he has here, and the tangle of hoses and wires etc.
As a safety and Health team member i won;'t comment on the rest.;-)

Dave

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Re: Boris, few last PESOs of the year

2010-12-31 Thread David J Brooks
I enjoyed the first and third shots

All the best in 2011

Dave

On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 12:23 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi!

 Few PESOs, likely the last ones for 2010, from me...

 http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/12/peso-2010-66-tram-ways.html

 http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/12/peso-2010-67-king-david-of-jerusalem.html

 http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/12/peso-2010-68-sandy-rain.html

 Be brutal and be honest.

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Re: PESO -- A winters sunset detail

2010-12-31 Thread David J Brooks
Very nice

Dave

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webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 Not a crop, second frame at 200mm

 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20awintersunsetdetail.html

 Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 28-200mm f3.9~5.6

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Re: Semi-OT: Adobe Bridge Photoshop acting peculiar

2010-12-31 Thread John Sessoms

From: Godfrey DiGiorgi


Because Bridge is a file browser and workflow tool, not an image viewer. .. ?


I'm using it as a file browser.

What part of open Bridge to the *FOLDER* where the image is located 
did you not understand?



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Re: PESO - The Sacred and The Profane

2010-12-31 Thread David J Brooks
Love it.

Dave

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 Okay, the title's a bit OTT, but it's what came to mind right after I shot it:

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/12/sacred-and-profane.html

 Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

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Re: PESO: Spotted Orchids

2010-12-31 Thread David J Brooks
Lovely shot. Nice colour and detail.

Dave

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Re: OT Mac migration application

2010-12-31 Thread David J Brooks
On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 7:09 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 Happy New Year all.

 Looks like my iMac will be ordered in a day or so with projected
 delivery on the week of the 7th.

 I have been told by a friend of mine, who has a graphics business and
 uses Mac, as well as 1-2 lister, that i will be able to hook up my
 iBook to the new iMac and transfer files and programs over.
 My friend tells me to hook up at start up of the iMac but what I see
 on the Apple site it does not suggest that.
 I know i need a firewire adaptor from 400 to 800 but what are the
 thoughts on migration. I don't want to screw this up.

 Hopefully programs like PSCS1 and Toast 6 will run on the new OS.

 Dave

Opps just found Stan's reply to a previous quiry about this, any other
comments.??

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Re: OT: '7 of 9' (was COMPLETELY OT! Roll Call...)

2010-12-31 Thread P. J. Alling
That's what happens with some anti-virus software if you have a file 
that is identified as something else.  In this case a Jpeg that has no 
extension.  Now my anti-virus software scanned it and said no threat, 
however Firefox 3.6 defaulted to trying to handle it as a HTML When I 
clicked save to file in Thunderbird it helpfully added the extension 
.htm. in spite of my specifying that it save it with a .jpg extension.  
I change it manually and opened it in Irfanview, which is very good at 
recognizing rile formats and suggesting corrected extensions.  It liked 
.jpg.


On 12/31/2010 2:04 AM, John Sessoms wrote:

On 10-12-30 10:57 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote:

 I wrote:


 Not to speak of T'pol:

 
http://img2.blogs.yahoo.co.jp/X 



 Good use of DOF, BTW (just to barely get back on topic).



I don't know what the hell that is, but it triggered all sorts of 
alarms and anti-virus activity. Trojans, mal-ware ...





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Re: An official teaser

2010-12-31 Thread P. J. Alling

I was going to but well, I haven't been doing so well myself lately.

On 12/31/2010 3:57 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote:

Larry Colen wrote


On Dec 31, 2010, at 12:46 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote:


For the article by me about shooting landscapes:
http://digidownload.libero.it/vitaferma/newsletterEP/Paesaggio.htm

Photos by Brian Walters, Thrain Vigfusson and Yours Truly.

Beautiful photos, but the spelling's so bad I can't read a single word.


Blame Dave B. and be happy.

Dario




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Re: OT: '7 of 9' (was COMPLETELY OT! Roll Call...)

2010-12-31 Thread P. J. Alling

On 12/31/2010 6:44 AM, John Sessoms wrote:

From: P. J. Alling


I was going to say something else but I'll stay technical.  There are a
number of fabrics that look painted on.  No one has a body so perfect
that the wardrobe department won't enhance it, and painting doesn't
allow that.  I know from personal close observation just what certain
costumes can do and what they look like.  Body painting is mostly for
amateurs.


... and the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit edition.

I sad mostly.  Playboy used to make a big deal that they never 
airbrushed anything, just covered flaws with camera angles, (and never 
published a photo where a model looked bad I'll wager), movies and video 
are different, you can't always manage to problems with camera angles 
and cropping, and the expense of reshooting a 10 minute scene something 
proved to be a bit too revealing is prohibitive.  Think about it.  I 
used to watch ST-Voyager pretty regularly.  Though Jeri Ryan has ample 
bozooms as they used to say in some sitcoms and old pulp potboilers, 
and appeared to be wearing skin tight clothing, did you ever see an 
erect nipple, so much as once?


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Re: Boris, few last PESOs of the year

2010-12-31 Thread Jack Davis
All well exposed and composed, Boris! The Sandy Rain looks a lot like what 
we've been seeing for most of late fall and winter here in northern California. 
Think I prefer the first.
Look forward to your 2011 offerings, Boris!

Jack

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 From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com
 Subject: Boris, few last PESOs of the year
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Thursday, December 30, 2010, 9:23 PM
 Hi!
 
 Few PESOs, likely the last ones for 2010, from me...
 
 http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/12/peso-2010-66-tram-ways.html
 
 http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/12/peso-2010-67-king-david-of-jerusalem.html
 
 http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/12/peso-2010-68-sandy-rain.html
 
 Be brutal and be honest.
 
 Boris
 
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Re: OT Mac migration application

2010-12-31 Thread paul stenquist
The iMac will ask you on startup if you want to do a migration. You can use the 
firewire or a wireless network, but the firewire is highly recommended.
Paul


On Dec 31, 2010, at 7:09 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

 Happy New Year all.
 
 Looks like my iMac will be ordered in a day or so with projected
 delivery on the week of the 7th.
 
 I have been told by a friend of mine, who has a graphics business and
 uses Mac, as well as 1-2 lister, that i will be able to hook up my
 iBook to the new iMac and transfer files and programs over.
 My friend tells me to hook up at start up of the iMac but what I see
 on the Apple site it does not suggest that.
 I know i need a firewire adaptor from 400 to 800 but what are the
 thoughts on migration. I don't want to screw this up.
 
 Hopefully programs like PSCS1 and Toast 6 will run on the new OS.
 
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Re: OT Mac migration application

2010-12-31 Thread David J Brooks
Paul.
-should the iBook be plugged in prior to the iMac start up or does it matter.
-Is this a one time thing, or can i do it anytime.
-Any idea if PSCS will work on the newest Mac OS's.

Dave

On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 8:26 AM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 The iMac will ask you on startup if you want to do a migration. You can use 
 the firewire or a wireless network, but the firewire is highly recommended.
 Paul


 On Dec 31, 2010, at 7:09 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

 Happy New Year all.

 Looks like my iMac will be ordered in a day or so with projected
 delivery on the week of the 7th.

 I have been told by a friend of mine, who has a graphics business and
 uses Mac, as well as 1-2 lister, that i will be able to hook up my
 iBook to the new iMac and transfer files and programs over.
 My friend tells me to hook up at start up of the iMac but what I see
 on the Apple site it does not suggest that.
 I know i need a firewire adaptor from 400 to 800 but what are the
 thoughts on migration. I don't want to screw this up.

 Hopefully programs like PSCS1 and Toast 6 will run on the new OS.

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Re: OT Ya know you're old when you remember...

2010-12-31 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2010-12-31 6:09, John Sessoms wrote:

I started out cutting grass with an old reel type push mower; $1.50 a
pop for 1/4 acre lots, included raking the cuttings  trimming around
the foundation. That was the summer of 1960 when I was 11 years old.


Similarly, my first job was cutting grass.  But it was almost 20 years 
later.  I got $50 a month to keep a three-acre neighborhood park mown. 
Next job was at the newspaper, doing a short column M-Th mornings that 
had the youth league football, baseball, basketball, and soccer scores, 
and the adult bowling leagues.  My third job was as a trap boy at a 
gun club.


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Re: OT Ya know you're old when you remember...

2010-12-31 Thread John Mullan
Who remembers transcription disks?  Radio shows were distributed to the 
radio stations on large diameter 78 RPM records.  That was the reason for 
the island turntables in radio studios, to allow overhang of the large 
disks.  They eventually went to phone line networks.  Early television was 
distributed over the phone line.  The T1 line was designed to carry one 
television signal.


jm

-Original Message- 
From: John Sessoms

Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 11:48 PM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: OT Ya know you're old when you remember...

From: Ann Sanfedele


who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men
Not to mention - on radio - The Lone Ranger, Ma Perkins, Lets Pretend,
Jack Benny, Fred Allen, Fibber Mc gee and Molly, Edgar Bergan
(and Candice) and Charlie McCarthy, Tom mix, Lux Radio Theatre  and The
Cinnamon Bear.


Many of those I know because they made a successful transition to early
TV or because their old BW movies based on the radio characters were
staples at a movie theater I worked at after school when I was in junior
high.

Later,  in the 80s, many of the old radio shows showed up on LP records
or cassette tapes.

... or from books at the public library. I guess I was maybe 10 - 11
when I first met Sherlock Holmes  Dr Watson, Nick and Nora Charles, The
Continental Op, Phillip Marlowe and Sam Spade. Who eventually led me to
Hercule Peroit, Miss Marple, Nero Wolfe  his man Archie.

I much prefer books to movies, because the cinematography is always so
much better.

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Re: OT Ya know you'reoldwhen you remember...

2010-12-31 Thread John Mullan
The first stereo radios were simultaneous AM and FM, receiving one channel 
on AM and the other on FM, had to tune them separately.


jm

-Original Message- 
From: John Sessoms

Sent: Friday, December 31, 2010 12:43 AM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: OT Ya know you'reoldwhen you remember...

From: Collin Brendemuehl


When Cable TV promised no commercials
When even NBC was BW.


It was in BW even after that until you could finally afford to buy a
color TV. And those families who had a TV only had one of them.


When radios came with only FM because AM was dying.


Don't remember that, but I well remember my introduction to rock 'n roll
came because I somehow came into possession of one of those flimsy
Japanese 3-transistor pocket radios.

When raw hamburger was safer to eat than today.  (Yes, it was so in the 
60s.)


The first McDonalds in town where you walked up to the window to buy
your $0.20 hamburgers after you got out of church on Sunday.


When there were no national pizza chains.
Before there was a drive-thru restaurant.


But there were drive-IN restaurants, and the waitress who brought your
order wore roller-skates.

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Re: Top Gear - GFM ?

2010-12-31 Thread John Mullan

Isn't that true of the news shows as well?

jm

-Original Message- 
From: John Sessoms

Sent: Friday, December 31, 2010 1:32 AM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: RE: Top Gear - GFM ?

From: Bob W


You ought to send this to them - I bet they'd read it out on Top Gear and
thank you for correcting them.



From what I have seen of the show, I doubt they care that much. It's

entertainment, not reportage.

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Re: OT: '7 of 9' (was COMPLETELY OT! Roll Call...)

2010-12-31 Thread Bob Sullivan
Well, the most revealing costume I remember was not the gray Starfleet uniform.
In her early encounters as a Borg and transitioning to a crew member,
she had a dark, sparkly top.  That's the most revealing I remember.
It surely got my attention.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 6:51 AM, P. J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 12/31/2010 6:44 AM, John Sessoms wrote:

 From: P. J. Alling

 I was going to say something else but I'll stay technical.  There are a
 number of fabrics that look painted on.  No one has a body so perfect
 that the wardrobe department won't enhance it, and painting doesn't
 allow that.  I know from personal close observation just what certain
 costumes can do and what they look like.  Body painting is mostly for
 amateurs.

 ... and the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit edition.

 I sad mostly.  Playboy used to make a big deal that they never airbrushed
 anything, just covered flaws with camera angles, (and never published a
 photo where a model looked bad I'll wager), movies and video are different,
 you can't always manage to problems with camera angles and cropping, and
 the expense of reshooting a 10 minute scene something proved to be a bit too
 revealing is prohibitive.  Think about it.  I used to watch ST-Voyager
 pretty regularly.  Though Jeri Ryan has ample bozooms as they used to say
 in some sitcoms and old pulp potboilers, and appeared to be wearing skin
 tight clothing, did you ever see an erect nipple, so much as once?

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Re: Boris, few last PESOs of the year

2010-12-31 Thread Steven Desjardins
King David is a wonderful shot.  I also like the warm tone rain shot
better.  to me, it better conveys sand and not just dirt.

On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 12:23 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi!

 Few PESOs, likely the last ones for 2010, from me...

 http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/12/peso-2010-66-tram-ways.html

 http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/12/peso-2010-67-king-david-of-jerusalem.html

 http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/12/peso-2010-68-sandy-rain.html

 Be brutal and be honest.

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Re: Lens Hood suggestions?

2010-12-31 Thread eckinator
I'll find it in a moment. BTW free isn't negotiable and neither is postage =)
Ecke

2010/12/31 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com:
 Thanks for the offer.  The model number would allow me to try to find one
 locally where shipping wouldn't kill me.  If I can't then we could
 negotiate.

 On 12/29/2010 8:00 AM, eckinator wrote:

 I have a Sigma clip-on hood that should fit. Postage will probably
 hurt you but it is yours if you want it.
 Cheers
 Ecke

 2010/12/29 P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com:

 A while back I dropped my A 24mm f2.8.  Badly bunged up the filter ring
 among other things...

 I sent it out for repair.

 Well I've had it back for some time now and it's working better than I
 had
 any right to expect, except for one small issue, the filter ring is still
 bunged up.  Replacement parts issue.

 Unfortunately the screw in lens hood I'd been using won't.  So I'm
 looking
 for suggestions.  What I'd really like is a clip on lens hood for a ~35mm
 on
 full frame.  Anybody have anything you can recommend?  (Boz's site shows
 the
 PH-S52 as the proper hood, but it's listed as the proper hood for the
 24mm
 on full frame as well so what's up with that?  Not to mention that it
 seems
 to be made out of unobtainable these days).  I'd really like something
 matched to the APS-C format for proper hood length.

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Re: Pentax 67 resolution compared to 15 MP Digital

2010-12-31 Thread Bob Sullivan
Jens,
No tests here, but the film is the same and the exposed area is 4X+
the size of 35mm.
I would expect 4X the size of the K-5 or K-7 files is what you'd need.
I don't think lens resolution is a problem.
Regards,  Bob S.

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 Hello list
 I'm getting into photographing with Pentax 67. BTW: I just got the SMC 1:4 
 165 mm Leaf Shutter lens for studio work. Nice lens :-).
 Has anyone done tests, showing the resolution etc. of 6x7 film images 
 compared to digital 14-15 Mp images, please?

 Regards
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Re: COMPLETELY OT! Roll Call...

2010-12-31 Thread eckinator
2010/12/31 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com:

 Sadly, like riding the short bus makes you special...

had to look this up... shouldn't it be the other way round in terms of
cause and effect?
Ecke

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Re: OT: '7 of 9' (was COMPLETELY OT! Roll Call...)

2010-12-31 Thread Steven Desjardins
I used to imagine I did.

  Though Jeri Ryan has ample bozooms as they used to say
 in some sitcoms and old pulp potboilers, and appeared to be wearing skin
 tight clothing, did you ever see an erect nipple, so much as once?

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RE: Embracing the digital age.

2010-12-31 Thread Malcolm Smith
 Steven Desjardins wrote:

 I did the same thing a while back. Earlier on, I had a hard time with
 digital.  I think the take as many as you want devalued the pictures
 in my mind.  The most difficult part, however, was adjusting to the
 lack of prints.  It makes no sense since you can have them done at
 Walmart if you like, but you had to do it with film whereas it felt
 like a waste of money with jpgs.  One of my favorite parts of the the
 PDML is that you do have a place to show your pictures, and that
 provides a nudge to complete the process and get your shots to the
 show the world stage.

It took a while for me to really take digital photography seriously, as a
'proper' film replacement. I used to go out and take a number of photos of
an area or scene that I wanted, look at them on the computer and then go
back the following day to take the real ones in slide film with an LX. This
year has been the first in 30+ years without a slide show at Christmas. It
isn't I've not wanted to take digital on seriously, most of my work has no
urgency of immediate result, and I've enjoyed waiting for things to come
back from development. However, the world has moved on and with much
reluctance, as film processing is joining the list of technology past, I
have little choice but to join in. I've certainly found the ability to share
photos instantly useful, but more for swapping hints on repairing or doing
things - particularly when I was working on the garden recently, rather than
aiming for quality photography. This is a trap I've got to get out of this
coming year, as the criteria has only been if it shows what it needs to show
for the purpose of the query. That doesn't make for stunning picture
quality.

Christine suggested a K-5 as a back-up camera, which I am now in need of. I
think that is the only camera on the short list at present. I have actually
used a Kx, but I much prefer the feel of the K-7. This is more research than
usually gets done, as the past  present DSLRs I've owned, I've seen for the
first time when they have arrived by delivery.

Lots more PDML mail to catch up onall the best for 2011 folks.

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Re: Embracing the digital age.

2010-12-31 Thread Bob Sullivan
Malcolm,
I share some of your feelings on digital photos devaluing the process.
Shooting my final roll of Kodachrome re-enforced the feeling.
But you can change that next year.
One Sunday morning, Mark Cassino (snowflakes) came to Chicago and
shot with Mark Roberts and me.  We used similar cameras and lenses,
but Mark's shots looked so much better because of the care he took.
I learned that digital lets you take lots of shots, but doesn't make good
photography any easier, or quicker.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 8:24 AM, Malcolm Smith rrve...@virginmedia.com wrote:
 Steven Desjardins wrote:

 I did the same thing a while back. Earlier on, I had a hard time with
 digital.  I think the take as many as you want devalued the pictures
 in my mind.  The most difficult part, however, was adjusting to the
 lack of prints.  It makes no sense since you can have them done at
 Walmart if you like, but you had to do it with film whereas it felt
 like a waste of money with jpgs.  One of my favorite parts of the the
 PDML is that you do have a place to show your pictures, and that
 provides a nudge to complete the process and get your shots to the
 show the world stage.

 It took a while for me to really take digital photography seriously, as a
 'proper' film replacement. I used to go out and take a number of photos of
 an area or scene that I wanted, look at them on the computer and then go
 back the following day to take the real ones in slide film with an LX. This
 year has been the first in 30+ years without a slide show at Christmas. It
 isn't I've not wanted to take digital on seriously, most of my work has no
 urgency of immediate result, and I've enjoyed waiting for things to come
 back from development. However, the world has moved on and with much
 reluctance, as film processing is joining the list of technology past, I
 have little choice but to join in. I've certainly found the ability to share
 photos instantly useful, but more for swapping hints on repairing or doing
 things - particularly when I was working on the garden recently, rather than
 aiming for quality photography. This is a trap I've got to get out of this
 coming year, as the criteria has only been if it shows what it needs to show
 for the purpose of the query. That doesn't make for stunning picture
 quality.

 Christine suggested a K-5 as a back-up camera, which I am now in need of. I
 think that is the only camera on the short list at present. I have actually
 used a Kx, but I much prefer the feel of the K-7. This is more research than
 usually gets done, as the past  present DSLRs I've owned, I've seen for the
 first time when they have arrived by delivery.

 Lots more PDML mail to catch up onall the best for 2011 folks.

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Re: Embracing the digital age.

2010-12-31 Thread Steven Desjardins
Post-Processing for color is also new.  Very few could do color
darkroom work.  Now you can tweak photos in a way that makes up for
the average time you spend on each one.

On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
 Malcolm,
 I share some of your feelings on digital photos devaluing the process.
 Shooting my final roll of Kodachrome re-enforced the feeling.
 But you can change that next year.
 One Sunday morning, Mark Cassino (snowflakes) came to Chicago and
 shot with Mark Roberts and me.  We used similar cameras and lenses,
 but Mark's shots looked so much better because of the care he took.
 I learned that digital lets you take lots of shots, but doesn't make good
 photography any easier, or quicker.
 Regards,  Bob S.

 On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 8:24 AM, Malcolm Smith rrve...@virginmedia.com 
 wrote:
 Steven Desjardins wrote:

 I did the same thing a while back. Earlier on, I had a hard time with
 digital.  I think the take as many as you want devalued the pictures
 in my mind.  The most difficult part, however, was adjusting to the
 lack of prints.  It makes no sense since you can have them done at
 Walmart if you like, but you had to do it with film whereas it felt
 like a waste of money with jpgs.  One of my favorite parts of the the
 PDML is that you do have a place to show your pictures, and that
 provides a nudge to complete the process and get your shots to the
 show the world stage.

 It took a while for me to really take digital photography seriously, as a
 'proper' film replacement. I used to go out and take a number of photos of
 an area or scene that I wanted, look at them on the computer and then go
 back the following day to take the real ones in slide film with an LX. This
 year has been the first in 30+ years without a slide show at Christmas. It
 isn't I've not wanted to take digital on seriously, most of my work has no
 urgency of immediate result, and I've enjoyed waiting for things to come
 back from development. However, the world has moved on and with much
 reluctance, as film processing is joining the list of technology past, I
 have little choice but to join in. I've certainly found the ability to share
 photos instantly useful, but more for swapping hints on repairing or doing
 things - particularly when I was working on the garden recently, rather than
 aiming for quality photography. This is a trap I've got to get out of this
 coming year, as the criteria has only been if it shows what it needs to show
 for the purpose of the query. That doesn't make for stunning picture
 quality.

 Christine suggested a K-5 as a back-up camera, which I am now in need of. I
 think that is the only camera on the short list at present. I have actually
 used a Kx, but I much prefer the feel of the K-7. This is more research than
 usually gets done, as the past  present DSLRs I've owned, I've seen for the
 first time when they have arrived by delivery.

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Re: OT Mac migration application

2010-12-31 Thread Bruce Walker
Dave, you can run Migration Assistant later on if you like. It's in 
/Applications/Utilities .


PS CS1 should run on your newer Intel Mac OS X, but it will run under 
emulation (called Rosetta) so it's a bit sluggish. OTOH, your new Mac 
will fly compared to your older iBook so the net result should be faster PS.


If you have Mac OS X 10.6 (aka Snow Leopard) installed, you may have to 
install Rosetta as its an optional component during installation of the 
OS. It will be found on the OS DVD.


-bmw


On 10-12-31 8:40 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

Paul.
-should the iBook be plugged in prior to the iMac start up or does it matter.
-Is this a one time thing, or can i do it anytime.
-Any idea if PSCS will work on the newest Mac OS's.

Dave

On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 8:26 AM, paul stenquistpnstenqu...@comcast.net  wrote:

The iMac will ask you on startup if you want to do a migration. You can use the 
firewire or a wireless network, but the firewire is highly recommended.
Paul


On Dec 31, 2010, at 7:09 AM, David J Brooks wrote:


Happy New Year all.

Looks like my iMac will be ordered in a day or so with projected
delivery on the week of the 7th.

I have been told by a friend of mine, who has a graphics business and
uses Mac, as well as 1-2 lister, that i will be able to hook up my
iBook to the new iMac and transfer files and programs over.
My friend tells me to hook up at start up of the iMac but what I see
on the Apple site it does not suggest that.
I know i need a firewire adaptor from 400 to 800 but what are the
thoughts on migration. I don't want to screw this up.

Hopefully programs like PSCS1 and Toast 6 will run on the new OS.

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Re: Embracing the digital age.

2010-12-31 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
snip
 I learned that digital lets you take lots of shots, but doesn't make good
 photography any easier, or quicker.
snip

Mark!

cheers,
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Re: Embracing the digital age.

2010-12-31 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 3:30 AM, Malcolm Smith rrve...@virginmedia.com wrote:
snip I wanted to pass my best to you all for Christmas
 and the New Year.
snip

Same to you and your family, Malcolm.  Nice to hear from you again!

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Re: COMPLETELY OT! Roll Call...

2010-12-31 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
 Mid 60's this month.
 I got my Medicare card to prove it!
 Now where can I get my senior coffee?

Mickey D's?

;-)

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Re: PESO: Spotted Orchids

2010-12-31 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?nav=mainwebtag=djm1963entry=49

 Comments, Suggestions, Criticisms and Abuse are all Welcome

Beautiful composition.

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Re: Pentax 67 resolution compared to 15 MP Digital

2010-12-31 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
There is no fair resolution comparison because the systems are so different.  
There is chemical information on a larger negative wich cannot be duplicated on 
digital because it is simply not present.  Likewise, digital information takes 
to enlargement much better than does film (in most instances).

A 12MP dslr, APS-C size, will be about 3K DPI.  Scan a 6x7cm neg @ 3Kdpi and 
you will have more information available than there is from the DSLR.  
Likewise, place the digital information on film via a film recorder and you 
will have a lower grade image.

IOW, while the large film neg has better/more information it is more difficult 
to manage for enlargement.  Now, if you would shoot 8x10 or 11x14 and do a 
contact print -- then you would be tempted forget digital.

There is a reason why a number of pros will shoot reversal and then drum scan 
for digital manipulation.  It makes sense.

Sincerely, 

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PESO My Favorite Hawk

2010-12-31 Thread Elizabeth Masoner
This is Ireland, a red-tail hawk that is an education bird at a local
wildlife rehabilitation center.  I volunteer with them so that my daughter
gets the opportunity to learn about wildlife rehabilitation in person even
though she isn't quite old enough to be an official volunteer yet.
 
http://lizmasoner.wordpress.com/2010/12/31/ireland-awcs-red-tail-hawk/

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Re: PESO My Favorite Hawk

2010-12-31 Thread Jack Davis
That's a terrific shot, Liz! I gather you shot it and should be proud. IMO, the 
fact that it was done in a rehab center doesn't compromise it a bit.

Jack


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 From: Elizabeth Masoner lizmaso...@bellsouth.net
 Subject: PESO My Favorite Hawk
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Friday, December 31, 2010, 7:24 AM
 This is Ireland, a red-tail hawk that
 is an education bird at a local
 wildlife rehabilitation center.  I volunteer with them
 so that my daughter
 gets the opportunity to learn about wildlife rehabilitation
 in person even
 though she isn't quite old enough to be an official
 volunteer yet.
  
 http://lizmasoner.wordpress.com/2010/12/31/ireland-awcs-red-tail-hawk/
 
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Re: PESO My Favorite Hawk

2010-12-31 Thread Elizabeth Masoner
Thanks Jack.  Yes, I shot it.  This was taken after two hours of
photographing Ireland as the raptor specialist worked to trim and polish
Ireland's beak and talons.  They actually have to use a Dremel (a small
power tool) to do the trim work.  The angle and shape of the beak and talons
has to be maintained properly for Ireland to be able to grip a perch or eat
correctly.  And Ireland fumed at us the entire time.

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On 12/31/10 9:32 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:

 That's a terrific shot, Liz! I gather you shot it and should be proud. IMO,
 the fact that it was done in a rehab center doesn't compromise it a bit.
 
 Jack
 
 
 --- On Fri, 12/31/10, Elizabeth Masoner lizmaso...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
 From: Elizabeth Masoner lizmaso...@bellsouth.net
 Subject: PESO My Favorite Hawk
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Friday, December 31, 2010, 7:24 AM
 This is Ireland, a red-tail hawk that
 is an education bird at a local
 wildlife rehabilitation center.  I volunteer with them
 so that my daughter
 gets the opportunity to learn about wildlife rehabilitation
 in person even
 though she isn't quite old enough to be an official
 volunteer yet.
  
 http://lizmasoner.wordpress.com/2010/12/31/ireland-awcs-red-tail-hawk/
 
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Re: OT Mac migration application

2010-12-31 Thread David J Brooks
On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dave, you can run Migration Assistant later on if you like. It's in
 /Applications/Utilities .

Great, just wanted to know if i had the option.


 PS CS1 should run on your newer Intel Mac OS X, but it will run under
 emulation (called Rosetta) so it's a bit sluggish. OTOH, your new Mac will
 fly compared to your older iBook so the net result should be faster PS.

Never heard of rosetta, I;'ll have to google that. I don't use PSCS
much any more, i sometimes switch over from LR to clone or what have
you but its nice to have. It it is a problem running it, i may just
install Elements.



 If you have Mac OS X 10.6 (aka Snow Leopard) installed, you may have to
 install Rosetta as its an optional component during installation of the OS.
 It will be found on the OS DVD.

I'm assuming its coming with that OS.

 -bmw


 On 10-12-31 8:40 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

 Paul.
 -should the iBook be plugged in prior to the iMac start up or does it
 matter.
 -Is this a one time thing, or can i do it anytime.
 -Any idea if PSCS will work on the newest Mac OS's.

 Dave

 On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 8:26 AM, paul stenquistpnstenqu...@comcast.net
  wrote:

 The iMac will ask you on startup if you want to do a migration. You can
 use the firewire or a wireless network, but the firewire is highly
 recommended.
 Paul


 On Dec 31, 2010, at 7:09 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

 Happy New Year all.

 Looks like my iMac will be ordered in a day or so with projected
 delivery on the week of the 7th.

 I have been told by a friend of mine, who has a graphics business and
 uses Mac, as well as 1-2 lister, that i will be able to hook up my
 iBook to the new iMac and transfer files and programs over.
 My friend tells me to hook up at start up of the iMac but what I see
 on the Apple site it does not suggest that.
 I know i need a firewire adaptor from 400 to 800 but what are the
 thoughts on migration. I don't want to screw this up.

 Hopefully programs like PSCS1 and Toast 6 will run on the new OS.

 Dave

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Re: Boris, few last PESOs of the year

2010-12-31 Thread Boris Liberman

On 12/31/2010 9:44 AM, Chris Mitchell wrote:

Hi Boris. The Sandy Rain one stands out for me. Impressionistic. I like both
renderings, but on balance the colour one works best for me. But then again,
so does the monotone one...

Chris


Thanks, Chris! It is most regretful that I did not have a proper camera 
with me at that day.


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Re: Boris, few last PESOs of the year

2010-12-31 Thread Boris Liberman

On 12/31/2010 10:49 AM, Bong Manayon wrote:

What Chris said...

The composition of King David is great, except he sort of blends into
or swallowed up by the wall; if only the wall had a different texture.

Happy New Year!

Bong


Oh, the statue is a gift from some people from Russia (hard to say, 
businessmen or politicians). So we can always blame them for misplacing 
the statue :-).


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Re: Boris, few last PESOs of the year

2010-12-31 Thread Boris Liberman

On 12/31/2010 2:07 PM, frank theriault wrote:

Sandy Rain stands out.  Works best in colour - everything seems to
blend together in monochrome.


Thanks, Frank!

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Re: Boris, few last PESOs of the year

2010-12-31 Thread Boris Liberman

On 12/31/2010 2:22 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

I enjoyed the first and third shots

All the best in 2011

Dave


Thank you, Dave! May 2011 bring you happiness and a grandchild /wink wink/.

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Re: Boris, few last PESOs of the year

2010-12-31 Thread Boris Liberman

On 12/31/2010 3:30 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

All well exposed and composed, Boris! The Sandy Rain looks a lot like what 
we've been seeing for most of late fall and winter here in northern California. Think I 
prefer the first.
Look forward to your 2011 offerings, Boris!

Jack


Thanks, Jack! I will certain attempt not to disappoint you.

As for the view - we do get some rain, but this specific kind is rather 
rare... Although recent climate changes may actually mean that the old 
'regular' rain will become a rare commodity...


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Re: Boris, few last PESOs of the year

2010-12-31 Thread Boris Liberman

On 12/31/2010 4:03 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote:

King David is a wonderful shot.  I also like the warm tone rain shot
better.  to me, it better conveys sand and not just dirt.


Thanks, Steve!

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OT: Happy New Year

2010-12-31 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
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Re: PESO My Favorite Hawk

2010-12-31 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Very nice  portrait... I'm very fond of redtails myself - never was able 
to be that close to one...

(and sorry you aren't really in New York , btw :-)

ann

Elizabeth Masoner wrote:


Thanks Jack.  Yes, I shot it.  This was taken after two hours of
photographing Ireland as the raptor specialist worked to trim and polish
Ireland's beak and talons.  They actually have to use a Dremel (a small
power tool) to do the trim work.  The angle and shape of the beak and talons
has to be maintained properly for Ireland to be able to grip a perch or eat
correctly.  And Ireland fumed at us the entire time.

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On 12/31/10 9:32 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:

 


That's a terrific shot, Liz! I gather you shot it and should be proud. IMO,
the fact that it was done in a rehab center doesn't compromise it a bit.

Jack


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From: Elizabeth Masoner lizmaso...@bellsouth.net
Subject: PESO My Favorite Hawk
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Date: Friday, December 31, 2010, 7:24 AM
This is Ireland, a red-tail hawk that
is an education bird at a local
wildlife rehabilitation center.  I volunteer with them
so that my daughter
gets the opportunity to learn about wildlife rehabilitation
in person even
though she isn't quite old enough to be an official
volunteer yet.

http://lizmasoner.wordpress.com/2010/12/31/ireland-awcs-red-tail-hawk/

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Happy New 2011

2010-12-31 Thread Boris Liberman
Hello there wherever or actually whenever you are. This very household 
will be fast asleep when the clock will chime the arrival of the new 
year. Thus, you're going to be greeted with the coming 2011 right now 
/grin/.


Let your lenses be fast, the light beautiful and matrices noiseless. If 
you shoot film, then let us wish you dust free scanners.


Happiness, joy and most of all - blue sky over your head without any 
possible menace.


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Re: OT Mac migration application

2010-12-31 Thread Cotty
On 31/12/10, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:

-should the iBook be plugged in prior to the iMac start up or does it matter.

Leave it unplugged until asked to plug it up.

-Is this a one time thing, or can i do it anytime.

Anytime.

-Any idea if PSCS will work on the newest Mac OS's.

I use The original Photoshop CS on a 2007 MacBook Pro running 10.5.8 no
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Re: OT Mac migration application

2010-12-31 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
If you have an Apple Store near you, take in both and the Geniuses
will do it for you.  G

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On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 7:09 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 Happy New Year all.

 Looks like my iMac will be ordered in a day or so with projected
 delivery on the week of the 7th.

 I have been told by a friend of mine, who has a graphics business and
 uses Mac, as well as 1-2 lister, that i will be able to hook up my
 iBook to the new iMac and transfer files and programs over.
 My friend tells me to hook up at start up of the iMac but what I see
 on the Apple site it does not suggest that.
 I know i need a firewire adaptor from 400 to 800 but what are the
 thoughts on migration. I don't want to screw this up.

 Hopefully programs like PSCS1 and Toast 6 will run on the new OS.

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Re: OT Mac migration application

2010-12-31 Thread David J Brooks
On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:
 On 31/12/10, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:

-should the iBook be plugged in prior to the iMac start up or does it matter.

 Leave it unplugged until asked to plug it up.

I hear that a lot.


-Is this a one time thing, or can i do it anytime.

 Anytime.

-Any idea if PSCS will work on the newest Mac OS's.

 I use The original Photoshop CS on a 2007 MacBook Pro running 10.5.8 no
 problem at all.

Ok, but i found this, and it looks straight forward.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosetta_%28software%29

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Re: OT Mac migration application

2010-12-31 Thread David J Brooks
On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Daniel J. Matyola
danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
 If you have an Apple Store near you, take in both and the Geniuses
 will do it for you.  G

 Dan

Well, sort of, but i HAVE ordered it from a Genius,.

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 On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 7:09 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 Happy New Year all.

 Looks like my iMac will be ordered in a day or so with projected
 delivery on the week of the 7th.

 I have been told by a friend of mine, who has a graphics business and
 uses Mac, as well as 1-2 lister, that i will be able to hook up my
 iBook to the new iMac and transfer files and programs over.
 My friend tells me to hook up at start up of the iMac but what I see
 on the Apple site it does not suggest that.
 I know i need a firewire adaptor from 400 to 800 but what are the
 thoughts on migration. I don't want to screw this up.

 Hopefully programs like PSCS1 and Toast 6 will run on the new OS.

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Re: OT Mac migration application

2010-12-31 Thread Cotty
On 31/12/10, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:

Ok, but i found this, and it looks straight forward.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosetta_%28software%29

Dave, I never installed anything on my MBP - just ran PS CS and it worked :)

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Re: Pentax 67 resolution compared to 15 MP Digital

2010-12-31 Thread Paul Stenquist

On Dec 31, 2010, at 9:10 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

 Jens,
 No tests here, but the film is the same and the exposed area is 4X+
 the size of 35mm.
 I would expect 4X the size of the K-5 or K-7 files is what you'd need.
 I don't think lens resolution is a problem.
 Regards,  Bob S.
 
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 I'm getting into photographing with Pentax 67. BTW: I just got the SMC 1:4 
 165 mm Leaf Shutter lens for studio work. Nice lens :-).
 Has anyone done tests, showing the resolution etc. of 6x7 film images 
 compared to digital 14-15 Mp images, please?

I don't think you can do valid testing, as it's an apples to oranges 
comparison. And if you digitize the 6x7 negs, the quality of the scan is the 
limiting factor. I was scanning my 6x7 negs on an Epson 3200 flatbed at 3200 
dpi. The images are nice, but not as good as my K5 delivers. With a high end 
scanner, I would think you can top the digital images, but not with a flatbed.
Paul

 
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Re: PESO My Favorite Hawk

2010-12-31 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Wow!  A wonderful portrait of a proud raptor.  Thanks for sharing.

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On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Elizabeth Masoner
lizmaso...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 This is Ireland, a red-tail hawk that is an education bird at a local
 wildlife rehabilitation center.  I volunteer with them so that my daughter
 gets the opportunity to learn about wildlife rehabilitation in person even
 though she isn't quite old enough to be an official volunteer yet.

 http://lizmasoner.wordpress.com/2010/12/31/ireland-awcs-red-tail-hawk/

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Re: OT Mac migration application

2010-12-31 Thread Paul Stenquist

On Dec 31, 2010, at 8:40 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

 Paul.
 -should the iBook be plugged in prior to the iMac start up or does it matter.
 -Is this a one time thing, or can i do it anytime.
 -Any idea if PSCS will work on the newest Mac OS's.
 
You can do it anytime by going to migration assistant in the utilities folder 
on your new iMac. You don't have to have the computers connected at startup. 
You can connect them after launching the assistant. When starting the iMac for 
the first time, it will ask if you want to do the migration, so it's convenient 
to do it then, but not necessary. I'm not sure if the first PSCS works on 
Intel-based Macs. Google it and see what you can find. I think I switched to 
CS4 at the time I bought my iMAc.

Paul


 On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 8:26 AM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net 
 wrote:
 The iMac will ask you on startup if you want to do a migration. You can use 
 the firewire or a wireless network, but the firewire is highly recommended.
 Paul
 
 
 On Dec 31, 2010, at 7:09 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
 
 Happy New Year all.
 
 Looks like my iMac will be ordered in a day or so with projected
 delivery on the week of the 7th.
 
 I have been told by a friend of mine, who has a graphics business and
 uses Mac, as well as 1-2 lister, that i will be able to hook up my
 iBook to the new iMac and transfer files and programs over.
 My friend tells me to hook up at start up of the iMac but what I see
 on the Apple site it does not suggest that.
 I know i need a firewire adaptor from 400 to 800 but what are the
 thoughts on migration. I don't want to screw this up.
 
 Hopefully programs like PSCS1 and Toast 6 will run on the new OS.
 
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PESO: Bald Eagle -attempt

2010-12-31 Thread Jack Davis
Been fantasizing about a dramatic Bald Eagle catch since moving near a location 
with many habitat choices. This isn't it, but has encouraged me.
Small heavily cropped file that gave me at least a dramatic wing position 
and, I feel, complimentary clouds.
Shot 40 frames from the time I spotted it perched in a tree 'til it became a 
tiny black dot. 

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Re: Boris, few last PESOs of the year

2010-12-31 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Tram Way  does nothing for me.

King David is very nice;  I love the angle at which you shot it and
the composition.

Sandy Rain is by far my favorite, and one of the finest images I
have seen around here lately.  It could pass for a n impressionist
masterpiece.

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On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 12:23 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi!

 Few PESOs, likely the last ones for 2010, from me...

 http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/12/peso-2010-66-tram-ways.html

 http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/12/peso-2010-67-king-david-of-jerusalem.html

 http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/12/peso-2010-68-sandy-rain.html

 Be brutal and be honest.

 Boris

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Re: Pentax 67 resolution compared to 15 MP Digital

2010-12-31 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
There is no sensible, direct translation of film acutance to digital
resolution. I have watched people quoting ppi, sensor resolution, etc
etc for years. It's all horsepucky.

The resolution of film is dependent on many factors:
- film speed
- how it is exposed
- how it is processed ... gamma is critical
- how acutance is measured (what criteria is chosen)

The resolution of a digital sensor is similarly dependent upon several factors
- the size of the sensor
- the {x,y} photosite dimensions
- the strength of the antialiasing filter
- how it is exposed
- how it is processed
- how acutance is measured

All of that is important even before you think about lens qualities,
scanning the film, etc etc.

But that doesn't stop me from making an assessment based on my
experience using specific cameras and lenses.

I shot film for 45 years and have been working with digital capture
and processing since 1984. When the first 5Mpixel digital cameras with
good lenses appeared at an affordable price in 2002, I bought one and
found that it totally eclipsed the capabilities of 35mm film cameras
for my usual print sizes up to 11x14. I went to Medium Format film
(645, 6x6, 6x9 cm) for larger prints. When I bought my first 6 Mpixel
DSLR and top of the line lenses in 2003, I realized in short order
that there was no longer any point to shooting Medium Format film for
the print sizes I make (typically up to 16x20 inches).

So for me, digital capture and processing outperforms Medium Format
film and processing at the 6 Mpixel, professional quality camera and
lenses point. Everything beyond that is a plus on the digital side,
and the handling and management of digital capture images is far far
far more convenient and flexible.

Others will disagree with me and quote a bazillion silly numbers. But
don't bother, please. This is an ancient debate and I'm not going to
pursue it. I know what works for me.

FWIW: I'd still like a Bronica RF645 camera with wide and normal
lenses. A beautiful piece of equipment, always wanted to work with
one. But if I got one, I doubt I'd get enough use out of it to be
worth the money, even at the current $600-700 price level.


On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 3:24 AM, Jens p...@planfoto.dk wrote:
 Hello list
 I'm getting into photographing with Pentax 67. BTW: I just got the SMC 1:4 
 165 mm Leaf Shutter lens for studio work. Nice lens :-).
 Has anyone done tests, showing the resolution etc. of 6x7 film images 
 compared to digital 14-15 Mp images, please?

 Regards
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Re: PESO: Bald Eagle -attempt

2010-12-31 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
That is a very good image.  I like the position of the bird and the
detail in the wing-tip feathers (I forgot the technical term for
them).

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On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Been fantasizing about a dramatic Bald Eagle catch since moving near a 
 location with many habitat choices. This isn't it, but has encouraged me.
 Small heavily cropped file that gave me at least a dramatic wing position 
 and, I feel, complimentary clouds.
 Shot 40 frames from the time I spotted it perched in a tree 'til it became a 
 tiny black dot.

 Jack

 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=557

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Re: PESO: Bald Eagle -attempt

2010-12-31 Thread Steven Desjardins
Pinions?

It is a nice shot.  Birds are hard enough without aiming for one in particular.

On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Daniel J. Matyola
danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
 That is a very good image.  I like the position of the bird and the
 detail in the wing-tip feathers (I forgot the technical term for
 them).

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 On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Been fantasizing about a dramatic Bald Eagle catch since moving near a 
 location with many habitat choices. This isn't it, but has encouraged me.
 Small heavily cropped file that gave me at least a dramatic wing position 
 and, I feel, complimentary clouds.
 Shot 40 frames from the time I spotted it perched in a tree 'til it became a 
 tiny black dot.

 Jack

 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=557

 K20, DA 55~300

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Re: PESO: Spotted Orchids

2010-12-31 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, David and Frank.

This image was accepted into the Pentax Gallery.  I find that they
like my flower images a lot better than my landscape and travel
images.  G

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On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 7:27 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 Lovely shot. Nice colour and detail.

 Dave

 On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?nav=mainwebtag=djm1963entry=49

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Re: PESO: Bald Eagle -attempt

2010-12-31 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, Dan! I believe the term is flight feathers..no kidding. grin

Jack

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 From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: PESO: Bald Eagle -attempt
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Friday, December 31, 2010, 8:18 AM
 That is a very good image.  I
 like the position of the bird and the
 detail in the wing-tip feathers (I forgot the technical
 term for
 them).
 
 Dan
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 On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  Been fantasizing about a dramatic Bald Eagle catch
 since moving near a location with many habitat choices. This
 isn't it, but has encouraged me.
  Small heavily cropped file that gave me at least a
 dramatic wing position and, I feel, complimentary clouds.
  Shot 40 frames from the time I spotted it perched in a
 tree 'til it became a tiny black dot.
 
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Re: Boris, few last PESOs of the year

2010-12-31 Thread Bob Sullivan
Boris,
Happy New Year to you and your family.
What gauge is your tramway?  Russian railroad gauge?
It looks mighty wide to me for a USA/Canada train.
I too like King David.  Looks like you worked for the composition.
Sandy Rain is least prefered.  I can't make out what it is.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Daniel J. Matyola
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 Tram Way  does nothing for me.

 King David is very nice;  I love the angle at which you shot it and
 the composition.

 Sandy Rain is by far my favorite, and one of the finest images I
 have seen around here lately.  It could pass for a n impressionist
 masterpiece.

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 On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 12:23 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi!

 Few PESOs, likely the last ones for 2010, from me...

 http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/12/peso-2010-66-tram-ways.html

 http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/12/peso-2010-67-king-david-of-jerusalem.html

 http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/12/peso-2010-68-sandy-rain.html

 Be brutal and be honest.

 Boris

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Happy New Year

2010-12-31 Thread Steven Desjardins
Dudes and Dudettes,

Have fun and stay safe. (not a complete contradiction).

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Re: OT Mac migration application

2010-12-31 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
1- leave the older system unplugged until asked to do so.
2- you can do it at any time, the Migration Assistant is always
available to use.
3- you have options for exactly what you can migrate

I *strongly* recommend first setting up the new system and installing
all your applications fresh from the original distribution media. Do
all the Software Updates, make sure the new system is working
perfectly. THEN run the Migration Assistant and migrate all your USER
files, NO applications or system additions.

This is exactly how I configured my own new system in August 2010* and
exactly how I have set up new systems for about three dozen clients in
the past couple of years. It is an efficient and robust methodology to
configuring a new Apple system. I have had to do zero support on all
those installations, they all worked flawlessly from the moment I
handed them back to the clients.

Godfrey

* with one additional step: I used SuperDuper to clone my working
startup drive first and ran the Migration Assistant using the clone.
That completely eliminates all possibility of anything during the
installation process losing data on the old system.

On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 4:09 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 Happy New Year all.

 Looks like my iMac will be ordered in a day or so with projected
 delivery on the week of the 7th.

 I have been told by a friend of mine, who has a graphics business and
 uses Mac, as well as 1-2 lister, that i will be able to hook up my
 iBook to the new iMac and transfer files and programs over.
 My friend tells me to hook up at start up of the iMac but what I see
 on the Apple site it does not suggest that.
 I know i need a firewire adaptor from 400 to 800 but what are the
 thoughts on migration. I don't want to screw this up.

 Hopefully programs like PSCS1 and Toast 6 will run on the new OS.

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Re: PESO: Bald Eagle -attempt

2010-12-31 Thread Elizabeth Masoner
Lovely bird.  If you can catch him at the right time of day for the sun to
hit him from behind you with the clouds still there it'll really be
dramatic.  :)


On 12/31/10 10:13 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Been fantasizing about a dramatic Bald Eagle catch since moving near a
 location with many habitat choices. This isn't it, but has encouraged me.
 Small heavily cropped file that gave me at least a dramatic wing position
 and, I feel, complimentary clouds.
 Shot 40 frames from the time I spotted it perched in a tree 'til it became a
 tiny black dot. 
 
 Jack
 
 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=557
 
 K20, DA 55~300 
 
 
   
 
 



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Re: Happy New 2011

2010-12-31 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
Thanks Boris.

Happy new year to you and to the rest of the list !!!

Jaume



- Mensaje original 
 De: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com
 Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Enviado: vie,31 diciembre, 2010 17:00
 Asunto: Happy New 2011
 
 Hello there wherever or actually whenever you are. This very household will 
 be  
fast asleep when the clock will chime the arrival of the new year. Thus, 
you're  
going to be greeted with the coming 2011 right now /grin/.
 
 Let your  lenses be fast, the light beautiful and matrices noiseless. If you 
shoot film,  then let us wish you dust free scanners.
 
 Happiness, joy and most of all -  blue sky over your head without any 
 possible 
menace.
 
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Re: Pentax 67 resolution compared to 15 MP Digital

2010-12-31 Thread Bob Sullivan
Godfrey,

Along the same lines as your commentary...
I've loved 35mm slides and projected images since I first got to
borrow my dad's Retina IIIc.
The acutance in a 35mm Kodachrome image is just wonderful.
As a consumer, early digital could make acceptable 4x6 prints.
But the last couple of cameras from Pentax (K-5  7) are good enough
to rival those projected Kodachromes.  And my results are better.

As for comparison to 6x7, look at transparency film on a light table
with a big loop.
It will take your breath away, and a 15 meg digital file will never
compare to it.
I won't be shooting much medium format film, but it still has real IQ
advantages.

Regards,  Bob S.

On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote:
 There is no sensible, direct translation of film acutance to digital
 resolution. I have watched people quoting ppi, sensor resolution, etc
 etc for years. It's all horsepucky.

 The resolution of film is dependent on many factors:
 - film speed
 - how it is exposed
 - how it is processed ... gamma is critical
 - how acutance is measured (what criteria is chosen)

 The resolution of a digital sensor is similarly dependent upon several factors
 - the size of the sensor
 - the {x,y} photosite dimensions
 - the strength of the antialiasing filter
 - how it is exposed
 - how it is processed
 - how acutance is measured

 All of that is important even before you think about lens qualities,
 scanning the film, etc etc.

 But that doesn't stop me from making an assessment based on my
 experience using specific cameras and lenses.

 I shot film for 45 years and have been working with digital capture
 and processing since 1984. When the first 5Mpixel digital cameras with
 good lenses appeared at an affordable price in 2002, I bought one and
 found that it totally eclipsed the capabilities of 35mm film cameras
 for my usual print sizes up to 11x14. I went to Medium Format film
 (645, 6x6, 6x9 cm) for larger prints. When I bought my first 6 Mpixel
 DSLR and top of the line lenses in 2003, I realized in short order
 that there was no longer any point to shooting Medium Format film for
 the print sizes I make (typically up to 16x20 inches).

 So for me, digital capture and processing outperforms Medium Format
 film and processing at the 6 Mpixel, professional quality camera and
 lenses point. Everything beyond that is a plus on the digital side,
 and the handling and management of digital capture images is far far
 far more convenient and flexible.

 Others will disagree with me and quote a bazillion silly numbers. But
 don't bother, please. This is an ancient debate and I'm not going to
 pursue it. I know what works for me.

 FWIW: I'd still like a Bronica RF645 camera with wide and normal
 lenses. A beautiful piece of equipment, always wanted to work with
 one. But if I got one, I doubt I'd get enough use out of it to be
 worth the money, even at the current $600-700 price level.


 On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 3:24 AM, Jens p...@planfoto.dk wrote:
 Hello list
 I'm getting into photographing with Pentax 67. BTW: I just got the SMC 1:4 
 165 mm Leaf Shutter lens for studio work. Nice lens :-).
 Has anyone done tests, showing the resolution etc. of 6x7 film images 
 compared to digital 14-15 Mp images, please?

 Regards
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Re: PESO: Bald Eagle -attempt

2010-12-31 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, Liz! I first say him perched in a tree behind a few small branches. I 
tried a few shots through the passenger window, then got out and placed a bean 
bag on the hood for a couple. He was probably 100 yds away and there was a 
trail leading in his direction, but as I stepped around the rig he immediately 
flew. As he took off, he did a wing over showing me his back with both wings 
straight out.
The sun lit him up and he was at his closest point from me. I DIDN'T GET ON HIM 
SOON ENOUGH..eeehhh!!! He then landed in another tree about 150 yds away, 
hesitated for a moment and took off, offering me this view..among many others. 
I kept shooting 'til he was a tiny black dot.

Jack

--- On Fri, 12/31/10, Elizabeth Masoner lizmaso...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 From: Elizabeth Masoner lizmaso...@bellsouth.net
 Subject: Re: PESO: Bald Eagle -attempt
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Friday, December 31, 2010, 8:36 AM
 Lovely bird.  If you can catch
 him at the right time of day for the sun to
 hit him from behind you with the clouds still there it'll
 really be
 dramatic.  :)
 
 
 On 12/31/10 10:13 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
 
  Been fantasizing about a dramatic Bald Eagle catch
 since moving near a
  location with many habitat choices. This isn't it, but
 has encouraged me.
  Small heavily cropped file that gave me at least a
 dramatic wing position
  and, I feel, complimentary clouds.
  Shot 40 frames from the time I spotted it perched in a
 tree 'til it became a
  tiny black dot. 
  
  Jack
  
  http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=557
  
  K20, DA 55~300 
  
  
        
  
  
 
 
 
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Re: Pentax 67 resolution compared to 15 MP Digital

2010-12-31 Thread Paul Stenquist

On Dec 31, 2010, at 11:44 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

 Godfrey,
 
 Along the same lines as your commentary...
 I've loved 35mm slides and projected images since I first got to
 borrow my dad's Retina IIIc.
 The acutance in a 35mm Kodachrome image is just wonderful.
 As a consumer, early digital could make acceptable 4x6 prints.
 But the last couple of cameras from Pentax (K-5  7) are good enough
 to rival those projected Kodachromes.  And my results are better.
 
 As for comparison to 6x7, look at transparency film on a light table
 with a big loop.
 It will take your breath away, and a 15 meg digital file will never
 compare to it.
 I won't be shooting much medium format film, but it still has real IQ
 advantages.
 

On a light table with a loop, yes. Scanned, not so much.
Paul

 Regards,  Bob S.
 
 On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 There is no sensible, direct translation of film acutance to digital
 resolution. I have watched people quoting ppi, sensor resolution, etc
 etc for years. It's all horsepucky.
 
 The resolution of film is dependent on many factors:
 - film speed
 - how it is exposed
 - how it is processed ... gamma is critical
 - how acutance is measured (what criteria is chosen)
 
 The resolution of a digital sensor is similarly dependent upon several 
 factors
 - the size of the sensor
 - the {x,y} photosite dimensions
 - the strength of the antialiasing filter
 - how it is exposed
 - how it is processed
 - how acutance is measured
 
 All of that is important even before you think about lens qualities,
 scanning the film, etc etc.
 
 But that doesn't stop me from making an assessment based on my
 experience using specific cameras and lenses.
 
 I shot film for 45 years and have been working with digital capture
 and processing since 1984. When the first 5Mpixel digital cameras with
 good lenses appeared at an affordable price in 2002, I bought one and
 found that it totally eclipsed the capabilities of 35mm film cameras
 for my usual print sizes up to 11x14. I went to Medium Format film
 (645, 6x6, 6x9 cm) for larger prints. When I bought my first 6 Mpixel
 DSLR and top of the line lenses in 2003, I realized in short order
 that there was no longer any point to shooting Medium Format film for
 the print sizes I make (typically up to 16x20 inches).
 
 So for me, digital capture and processing outperforms Medium Format
 film and processing at the 6 Mpixel, professional quality camera and
 lenses point. Everything beyond that is a plus on the digital side,
 and the handling and management of digital capture images is far far
 far more convenient and flexible.
 
 Others will disagree with me and quote a bazillion silly numbers. But
 don't bother, please. This is an ancient debate and I'm not going to
 pursue it. I know what works for me.
 
 FWIW: I'd still like a Bronica RF645 camera with wide and normal
 lenses. A beautiful piece of equipment, always wanted to work with
 one. But if I got one, I doubt I'd get enough use out of it to be
 worth the money, even at the current $600-700 price level.
 
 
 On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 3:24 AM, Jens p...@planfoto.dk wrote:
 Hello list
 I'm getting into photographing with Pentax 67. BTW: I just got the SMC 1:4 
 165 mm Leaf Shutter lens for studio work. Nice lens :-).
 Has anyone done tests, showing the resolution etc. of 6x7 film images 
 compared to digital 14-15 Mp images, please?
 
 Regards
 Jens
 
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Re: Boris, few last PESOs of the year

2010-12-31 Thread Boris Liberman

On 12/31/2010 6:23 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

Boris,
Happy New Year to you and your family.


Thanks!


What gauge is your tramway?  Russian railroad gauge?


Not a clue. I can only mention that this is one of the stranger local 
building and development projects. They started few years ago, having 
caused lots of traffic problems in the city. Then they either got out of 
funds or had a change of heart (or both) and actually undid what they've 
done. This is kind of version 2.0.



It looks mighty wide to me for a USA/Canada train.


Most likely it is European, but I don't know exactly. This is possibly 
much more knowledgeable source:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerusalem_Light_Rail


I too like King David.  Looks like you worked for the composition.


I admit, I did work /grin/.


Sandy Rain is least prefered.  I can't make out what it is.


Hmmm. Well, I should admit that I took the picture on Dec 12. Processed 
it the same day and couldn't make up my mind about posting it... So, 
your comment makes perfect sense to me.


Boris

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Re: Boris, few last PESOs of the year

2010-12-31 Thread Boris Liberman

On 12/31/2010 6:16 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

King David is very nice;  I love the angle at which you shot it and
the composition.


Thanks, Dan.


Sandy Rain is by far my favorite, and one of the finest images I
have seen around here lately.  It could pass for a n impressionist
masterpiece.


/Blush/ Thank you so much. It is in no way a masterpiece and I do 
appreciate the compliments.


Boris

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Re: Happy New 2011

2010-12-31 Thread Jack Davis
Wishing all the best in 2011! That includes, good light.

Jack

--- On Fri, 12/31/10, Jaume Lahuerta jlah...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: Jaume Lahuerta jlah...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: Happy New 2011
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Friday, December 31, 2010, 8:43 AM
 Thanks Boris.
 
 Happy new year to you and to the rest of the list !!!
 
 Jaume
 
 
 
 - Mensaje original 
  De: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com
  Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
  Enviado: vie,31 diciembre, 2010 17:00
  Asunto: Happy New 2011
  
  Hello there wherever or actually whenever you are.
 This very household will be  
 fast asleep when the clock will chime the arrival of
 the new year. Thus, you're  
 going to be greeted with the coming 2011 right now
 /grin/.
  
  Let your  lenses be fast, the light beautiful and
 matrices noiseless. If you 
 shoot film,  then let us wish you dust free
 scanners.
  
  Happiness, joy and most of all -  blue sky over
 your head without any possible 
 menace.
  
  Boris, Julia, Galia  and Anat.
  
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Re: OT Mac migration application

2010-12-31 Thread Paul Stenquist

On Dec 31, 2010, at 11:27 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 1- leave the older system unplugged until asked to do so.
 2- you can do it at any time, the Migration Assistant is always
 available to use.
 3- you have options for exactly what you can migrate
 
 I *strongly* recommend first setting up the new system and installing
 all your applications fresh from the original distribution media. Do
 all the Software Updates, make sure the new system is working
 perfectly. THEN run the Migration Assistant and migrate all your USER
 files, NO applications or system additions.
 
 This is exactly how I configured my own new system in August 2010* and
 exactly how I have set up new systems for about three dozen clients in
 the past couple of years. It is an efficient and robust methodology to
 configuring a new Apple system. I have had to do zero support on all
 those installations, they all worked flawlessly from the moment I
 handed them back to the clients.
 
 Godfrey

I ended up doing it as Godfrey described as well. I tried migrating 
applications first, and many didn't work. I ended up erasing the hard drive and 
starting over. It all works perfectly now. 
Paul
 
 * with one additional step: I used SuperDuper to clone my working
 startup drive first and ran the Migration Assistant using the clone.
 That completely eliminates all possibility of anything during the
 installation process losing data on the old system.
 
 On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 4:09 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 Happy New Year all.
 
 Looks like my iMac will be ordered in a day or so with projected
 delivery on the week of the 7th.
 
 I have been told by a friend of mine, who has a graphics business and
 uses Mac, as well as 1-2 lister, that i will be able to hook up my
 iBook to the new iMac and transfer files and programs over.
 My friend tells me to hook up at start up of the iMac but what I see
 on the Apple site it does not suggest that.
 I know i need a firewire adaptor from 400 to 800 but what are the
 thoughts on migration. I don't want to screw this up.
 
 Hopefully programs like PSCS1 and Toast 6 will run on the new OS.
 
 Dave
 
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Re: Pentax 67 resolution compared to 15 MP Digital

2010-12-31 Thread Boris Liberman
I am with Collin here. It is really a question without an answer. I mean 
- it just depends. If you have a drum scanner nearby with highly trained 
operator, then you can produce amazing amount of information and 
tremendous enlargements from your 6x7 negative. For the references, 
several years ago to scan one 35 mm frame on a drum scanner in Tel Aviv 
was USD 25. And they clearly indicated that they will not assume any 
responsibility if the film gets damaged in the process. OTOH, if you 
have 16 MP K-5 and all these fancy tools (fractal upressing, etc), you 
can probably get very far as well. Finally, it would also depend on a 
specific picture.


Boris


On 12/31/2010 5:17 PM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote:

There is no fair resolution comparison because the systems are so
different.  There is chemical information on a larger negative wich
cannot be duplicated on digital because it is simply not present.
Likewise, digital information takes to enlargement much better than
does film (in most instances).

A 12MP dslr, APS-C size, will be about 3K DPI.  Scan a 6x7cm neg @
3Kdpi and you will have more information available than there is from
the DSLR.  Likewise, place the digital information on film via a film
recorder and you will have a lower grade image.

IOW, while the large film neg has better/more information it is more
difficult to manage for enlargement.  Now, if you would shoot 8x10 or
11x14 and do a contact print -- then you would be tempted forget
digital.

There is a reason why a number of pros will shoot reversal and then
drum scan for digital manipulation.  It makes sense.

Sincerely,

Collin Brendemuehl http://kerygmainstitute.org

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Re: Happy New Year

2010-12-31 Thread Boris Liberman

Raising my cup of uncooked pu-erh tea!

Never thought of dudette - what a cool word!

Happy New Year, Steve!

Boris

On 12/31/2010 6:24 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote:

Dudes and Dudettes,

Have fun and stay safe. (not a complete contradiction).




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