RE: Another undiscovered photographer's trove of photos found...
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of David Mann On Mar 30, 2012, at 1:22 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: So everybody: start squirreling away images now so they can be discovered after your death and make somebody wealthy from book and exhibition deals. I prefer the plan of discovering some dead person's photos. That way I get to be the rich one. ...and the still-alive one... B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Guy With a Camera joke
On 29/03/2012 12:40 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Models often complain about the Guy With a Camera. He'll pretend to know (or likely actually thinks he does) photography, and will hire models not so much as an opportunity to get photos, but to see naked pretty women. When the models do the work TFF/TFP, what they get is so bad it's not usable for their portfolio. The canonical creepy GWC will make inappropriate advances on his models. I posted the following joke on a forum for fetish photography: A GWaC likes to take photos of beautiful women. A photographer takes beautiful photos of women. And then, somewhere in between is the vast majority of us who have no qualms about admitting the attraction to being in the company of and photographing beautiful women (preferably scantily clad), and hoping that we might get something nice for our efforts. The only male photographers who aren't GWCs are gay. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Zoomable Milky Way
On 29/03/2012 11:00 PM, David Mann wrote: Found this linked from a BBC News article. Hours of fun. http://djer.roe.ac.uk/vsa/vvv/iipmooviewer-2.0-beta/vvvgps5.html Hours of boredom perhaps Erosion is faster than this. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
My worst shot
This is an interesting feature, which might make for a good PUG sometime: http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/gallery/2012/mar/28/photography-wors t-shot B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
I'm afraid the story isn't nearly as interesting as the photo
This picture might convince some of you that my life is far more interesting than it really is. I'm just good at going to places where I can find interesting photos. The young lady in the photo wanted me to take her picture with the cute bartender. This is the one that I liked the best, but I'm not sure which crop works best: portrait: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6882711922/ square: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/7028793435/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Final pre-K20D photowalk
Nice set. I think I'd like the horse pictures better if he weren't on the center line of the frame. With the fence in the first one, it's not quite as static, but I'd crop a bit off the right and bottom of that one. The second one I'd probably crop left and bottom so that the horse isn't quite ready to walk out of the frame. On Mar 29, 2012, at 7:50 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote: Hi all, Just wanted to post a few shots I got with my K-x today -- the final day (hopefully) before my K20D arrives. A couple of shots may look familiar as they're slightly different takes on shots that I've taken before and sought to improve upon. Serendipitously enough, I ran into the gentleman who owns the land in the shot with the old tobacco barn on the hill, and he told me I was welcome to use his land to take photos anytime I want. He also owns an old horse track where he trains his harness-racers and invited me to come out and shoot any morning while he trains. He really is a great guy -- one of the nicest human beings I've ever known. I didn't even have to ask. He just flat-out gave me permission when he saw me walking around his track with my camera. But I digress . . . Here: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157629333992798/ K-x with the A-50/1.7 Comments, critiques and suggestions are welcome as always. Thanks! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Tele-Zoom Lens
Daniel, of the lenses you mentioned I have the SMC-F 80-200mm 4.7-5.6 Its advantages are: lightweight, 49mm filter thread, internal zoom (the lens doesn't change its length when zoomed), good IQ (though not outstanding, but better than most people think), cheap price, metal lens mount, fast focusing, small size. On the less side: slow (4.7-5.6), cheap build quality. All in all, its a good lens if you want it small, light and cheap. If you need something faster, you'll pay the price both in money and weight. A better quality alternative is the SMC-F 70-210mm 4-5.6. Its IQ is excellent, at least on film (not to be confused with the FA 70-200mm power zoom or the non-SMC F 70-200 4.5.6). Carlos -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Final pre-K20D photowalk
Completely agree. Hadn't seen these earlier. Wonderful scenes, Walt, very well composed and rendered. I envy your access to this area and this collection. Jack From: knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 8:00 PM Subject: RE: GESO: Final pre-K20D photowalk Wow, those are beautiful, Walt! Sure is green down there. I'm surprised there's so much foliage this early in the spring. Cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Walt Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com Sent: March 29, 2012 3/29/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: GESO: Final pre-K20D photowalk Hi all, Just wanted to post a few shots I got with my K-x today -- the final day (hopefully) before my K20D arrives. A couple of shots may look familiar as they're slightly different takes on shots that I've taken before and sought to improve upon. Serendipitously enough, I ran into the gentleman who owns the land in the shot with the old tobacco barn on the hill, and he told me I was welcome to use his land to take photos anytime I want. He also owns an old horse track where he trains his harness-racers and invited me to come out and shoot any morning while he trains. He really is a great guy -- one of the nicest human beings I've ever known. I didn't even have to ask. He just flat-out gave me permission when he saw me walking around his track with my camera. But I digress . . . Here: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157629333992798/ K-x with the A-50/1.7 Comments, critiques and suggestions are welcome as always. Thanks! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: I'm afraid the story isn't nearly as interesting as the photo
Toto, I don't think we're in Kansas anymore... Cheers, frank ps: Square. Fun shot btw. What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com Sent: March 30, 2012 3/30/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: I'm afraid the story isn't nearly as interesting as the photo This picture might convince some of you that my life is far more interesting than it really is. I'm just good at going to places where I can find interesting photos. The young lady in the photo wanted me to take her picture with the cute bartender. This is the one that I liked the best, but I'm not sure which crop works best: portrait: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6882711922/ square: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/7028793435/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: My worst shot
Their worst blows my best out of the water. It would be a fun PUG, but dear me, what a lot to choose from! ;-) cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Bob W p...@web-options.com Sent: March 30, 2012 3/30/12 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: My worst shot This is an interesting feature, which might make for a good PUG sometime: http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/gallery/2012/mar/28/photography-wors t-shot B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My worst shot
Bob W wrote: This is an interesting feature, which might make for a good PUG sometime: http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/gallery/2012/mar/28/photography-wors t-shot First of all... Photo number 5 is from Kingswear in Devon, my home town! (I was born in Hemel Hempstead but we moved to Kingswear before I was a year old.) But photo number two strikes me as a perfect example of how an artist (or a viewer) can turn a good photo into a bad one in their own mind by overanalyzing it. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I'm afraid the story isn't nearly as interesting as the photo
On 30/3/12, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed: This picture might convince some of you that my life is far more interesting than it really is. I'm just good at going to places where I can find interesting photos. The young lady in the photo wanted me to take her picture with the cute bartender. This is the one that I liked the best, but I'm not sure which crop works best: portrait: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6882711922/ square: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/7028793435/ Square. Great pic! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I'm afraid the story isn't nearly as interesting as the photo
Square, and how did you get into my garage.?? Dave On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 3:25 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: This picture might convince some of you that my life is far more interesting than it really is. I'm just good at going to places where I can find interesting photos. The young lady in the photo wanted me to take her picture with the cute bartender. This is the one that I liked the best, but I'm not sure which crop works best: portrait: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6882711922/ square: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/7028793435/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Final pre-K20D photowalk
Some nice horse shots there Walt. I like the BW buildings as well. Dave On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 10:50 PM, Walt Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Just wanted to post a few shots I got with my K-x today -- the final day (hopefully) before my K20D arrives. A couple of shots may look familiar as they're slightly different takes on shots that I've taken before and sought to improve upon. Serendipitously enough, I ran into the gentleman who owns the land in the shot with the old tobacco barn on the hill, and he told me I was welcome to use his land to take photos anytime I want. He also owns an old horse track where he trains his harness-racers and invited me to come out and shoot any morning while he trains. He really is a great guy -- one of the nicest human beings I've ever known. I didn't even have to ask. He just flat-out gave me permission when he saw me walking around his track with my camera. But I digress . . . Here: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157629333992798/ K-x with the A-50/1.7 Comments, critiques and suggestions are welcome as always. Thanks! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My worst shot
I appreciate the link being shared, but after looking at the shots, I think the premise is a bit of a farce. It strikes me as similar to the job interview question: What do you think is your worst characteristic? The interviewee is supposed to something like In the past I have been too hard of a worker and I burned myself out, however, since then I have learned balance, and yrt still maintain a high work ethic. Sadly for the employer, that is probably not that person's True Worst Characteristic. Similarly, a photographer that is allowed to choose his own worst shot is probably only showing one that still brags in some way (i shoot celebrities or famous people, I was there for historic events, I travel the world) or a photo that he wishes he could have done more with... not one that truly qualifies as his Worst Shot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Final pre-K20D photowalk
On 3/30/2012 2:33 AM, Larry Colen wrote: Nice set. Thanks, Larry! I think I'd like the horse pictures better if he weren't on the center line of the frame. With the fence in the first one, it's not quite as static, but I'd crop a bit off the right and bottom of that one. The second one I'd probably crop left and bottom so that the horse isn't quite ready to walk out of the frame. Thanks for the suggestions on those. I think you're right about getting them out of the center of the image. I'll go back and have a gander at the originals and see where I can make some adjustments. It seems on the second one you mentioned, I was probably concerned about a tree branch creeping into the frame on the right-hand side, but I'll have to look and make sure. Thanks again! -- Walt On Mar 29, 2012, at 7:50 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote: Hi all, Just wanted to post a few shots I got with my K-x today -- the final day (hopefully) before my K20D arrives. A couple of shots may look familiar as they're slightly different takes on shots that I've taken before and sought to improve upon. Serendipitously enough, I ran into the gentleman who owns the land in the shot with the old tobacco barn on the hill, and he told me I was welcome to use his land to take photos anytime I want. He also owns an old horse track where he trains his harness-racers and invited me to come out and shoot any morning while he trains. He really is a great guy -- one of the nicest human beings I've ever known. I didn't even have to ask. He just flat-out gave me permission when he saw me walking around his track with my camera. But I digress . . . Here: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157629333992798/ K-x with the A-50/1.7 Comments, critiques and suggestions are welcome as always. Thanks! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My worst shot
On Mar 30, 2012, at 9:48, Darren Addy wrote: Sadly for the employer, that is probably not that person's True Worst Characteristic. Similarly, a photographer that is allowed to choose his own worst shot is probably only showing one that still brags in some way (i shoot celebrities or famous people, I was there for historic events, I travel the world) or a photo that he wishes he could have done more with... not one that truly qualifies as his Worst Shot. 100% agree. Fun to share the stories about missed opportunities, etc... but certainly not truly The Worst Shot. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Final pre-K20D photowalk
On 3/30/2012 9:07 AM, David J Brooks wrote: Some nice horse shots there Walt. I like the BW buildings as well. Dave Thanks, Dave! The first bw building shot was pretty much a necessity in bw. The sun was pretty high in the sky and the shadows were pretty mean in color. But, I have an almost default tendency to do buildings -- especially old, decaying ones -- in bw. I sometimes wonder if I need to break away from that tendency. -- Walt On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 10:50 PM, Walt Gilbertldott...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Just wanted to post a few shots I got with my K-x today -- the final day (hopefully) before my K20D arrives. A couple of shots may look familiar as they're slightly different takes on shots that I've taken before and sought to improve upon. Serendipitously enough, I ran into the gentleman who owns the land in the shot with the old tobacco barn on the hill, and he told me I was welcome to use his land to take photos anytime I want. He also owns an old horse track where he trains his harness-racers and invited me to come out and shoot any morning while he trains. He really is a great guy -- one of the nicest human beings I've ever known. I didn't even have to ask. He just flat-out gave me permission when he saw me walking around his track with my camera. But I digress . . . Here: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157629333992798/ K-x with the A-50/1.7 Comments, critiques and suggestions are welcome as always. Thanks! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Final pre-K20D photowalk
Thank you very much, Jack! Western Kentucky can be a photogenic place, though I never really knew until I decided to start taking photos of it. It's kind of a Memory Lane set for me -- where I grew up. For instance, the old, decaying house is on the corner where my friends and I would hide our beer as teenagers. We'd have one of their older cousins drop it off there for us and we'd pick it up on the way out for the night. -- Walt On 3/30/2012 6:25 AM, Jack Davis wrote: Completely agree. Hadn't seen these earlier. Wonderful scenes, Walt, very well composed and rendered. I envy your access to this area and this collection. Jack From: knarftheria...@gmail.comknarftheria...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 8:00 PM Subject: RE: GESO: Final pre-K20D photowalk Wow, those are beautiful, Walt! Sure is green down there. I'm surprised there's so much foliage this early in the spring. Cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Walt Gilbertldott...@gmail.com Sent: March 29, 2012 3/29/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Subject: GESO: Final pre-K20D photowalk Hi all, Just wanted to post a few shots I got with my K-x today -- the final day (hopefully) before my K20D arrives. A couple of shots may look familiar as they're slightly different takes on shots that I've taken before and sought to improve upon. Serendipitously enough, I ran into the gentleman who owns the land in the shot with the old tobacco barn on the hill, and he told me I was welcome to use his land to take photos anytime I want. He also owns an old horse track where he trains his harness-racers and invited me to come out and shoot any morning while he trains. He really is a great guy -- one of the nicest human beings I've ever known. I didn't even have to ask. He just flat-out gave me permission when he saw me walking around his track with my camera. But I digress . . . Here: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157629333992798/ K-x with the A-50/1.7 Comments, critiques and suggestions are welcome as always. Thanks! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I'm afraid the story isn't nearly as interesting as the photo
On 3/30/2012 2:25 AM, Larry Colen wrote: This picture might convince some of you that my life is far more interesting than it really is. I'm just good at going to places where I can find interesting photos. The young lady in the photo wanted me to take her picture with the cute bartender. This is the one that I liked the best, but I'm not sure which crop works best: portrait: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6882711922/ square: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/7028793435/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est Now, that's a shot you don't get many chances at in western KY! Fun and well-captured, Larry! I like the square crop, FWIW. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Final pre-K20D photowalk
What a tremendous opportunity, Walt! You really took good advantage of it too. That horseshoes shot is killer. With that many horseshoes your luck is bound to improve hugely. :-) On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 10:50 PM, Walt Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Just wanted to post a few shots I got with my K-x today -- the final day (hopefully) before my K20D arrives. A couple of shots may look familiar as they're slightly different takes on shots that I've taken before and sought to improve upon. Serendipitously enough, I ran into the gentleman who owns the land in the shot with the old tobacco barn on the hill, and he told me I was welcome to use his land to take photos anytime I want. He also owns an old horse track where he trains his harness-racers and invited me to come out and shoot any morning while he trains. He really is a great guy -- one of the nicest human beings I've ever known. I didn't even have to ask. He just flat-out gave me permission when he saw me walking around his track with my camera. But I digress . . . Here: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157629333992798/ K-x with the A-50/1.7 Comments, critiques and suggestions are welcome as always. Thanks! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Any PDML members doing Alternative Processes?
I miss old school printmaking. But more than that, I'm becoming increasingly fascinated by the Really Old School processes that are today euphemistically called Alternative Processes. These include: Cyanotype Kallitype (including Van Dyke brown) Platinum prints etc. What is interesting to me is that virtually all of these are contact print processes. Now not a lot of people are shooting large format film today. So what's up with the revival in interest in Alternative Processes? Well, digital has done wonders for old school contact printing. You can now print out large format digital negatives on transparency film using ink jet printers. The larger format the printer, the larger the transparency (negative) that you can produce. You probably already have a great library of images that you could work from. Images that could take on a whole new life as a Platinum print, or a Cyanotype, for example. Some of these processes can even be used on fabric, meaning you could make some gnarly t-shirts to show off your own images. For those interested in learning more, I recommend: http://www.alternativephotography.com/wp/processes or the f295 forums: http://www.f295.org/Pinholeforum/forum/Blah.pl (scroll down to the forums for Hand Crafted, Historic Process, and Non-Conventional Images) Ron Reeder is one of the recognized experts in creating digital negatives. His process (used by many) is outlined in this inexpensive eBook: http://www.lulu.com/shop/ron-reeder/digital-negatives-for-palladium-and-other-alternative-processes/ebook/product-17429855.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Final pre-K20D photowalk
Thank you, Bruce! When I took the horseshoe shot, the man who owns the horses said, That's just junk. I don't keep the place up like I did when I was younger. It's amazing how often junk makes the best photos, though. If opportunities like this are happening before I even get my K20D, I can't imagine what waits in store upon its impending arrival. ;-) -- Walt On 3/30/2012 10:26 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: What a tremendous opportunity, Walt! You really took good advantage of it too. That horseshoes shot is killer. With that many horseshoes your luck is bound to improve hugely. :-) On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 10:50 PM, Walt Gilbertldott...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Just wanted to post a few shots I got with my K-x today -- the final day (hopefully) before my K20D arrives. A couple of shots may look familiar as they're slightly different takes on shots that I've taken before and sought to improve upon. Serendipitously enough, I ran into the gentleman who owns the land in the shot with the old tobacco barn on the hill, and he told me I was welcome to use his land to take photos anytime I want. He also owns an old horse track where he trains his harness-racers and invited me to come out and shoot any morning while he trains. He really is a great guy -- one of the nicest human beings I've ever known. I didn't even have to ask. He just flat-out gave me permission when he saw me walking around his track with my camera. But I digress . . . Here: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157629333992798/ K-x with the A-50/1.7 Comments, critiques and suggestions are welcome as always. Thanks! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I'm afraid the story isn't nearly as interesting as the photo
Walt Gilbert wrote: Now, that's a shot you don't get many chances at in western KY! Understatement of the year! -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
GFM 2012
Just a reminder: Registration (online) begins at midnight on April 2nd this year. (They're going to start it on the first Monday in April from now on). http://www.grandfather.com/events/registration-for-2012-nature-photography-weekend/ -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT -- Really annoying Photo.net behavior
on 2012-03-29 21:37 Miserere wrote Greenspun sold the site years ago. He came back briefly for a while to straighten things up but he's completely uninvolved with photo.net now. I suspect things might run better if he were still in charge. since his byline is still there, and it reads like it was written by him, that's all the more reason not to ascribe the contents of that article to the motivations of the current owners -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The PUG - Nagging Again....
I just got my shot up there. Cheers, Brian! On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: G'day all Following up from my post of a week or so ago, the April PUG is the 15th Anniversary of the first PUG in April 1997 so let's make this the biggest and best PUG ever! So far, submissions have been, shall we say, minimal. Three submissions. Three!! There's no theme this month - just pick a photo you like and send it in. Old farts (sorry, old timers), and those who have strayed from the Pentax fold, might like to consider submitting an image that you previously submitted to an earlier PUG. You can look through the early PUGs via the 'Previous Galleries' link at the bottom of the current PUG page (http://pug.komkon.org/). If you no longer have the image, let me know and I'll extract it from whatever gallery it appeared in. The details: Submit here: http://pug.komkon.org/submit/ Submission Guidelines here: http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html The main requirements are: * Max. pixel dimensions: 800 x 800 pixels * Max file size: 300k * Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body or lens used is Pentax. * If you embed a colour space in the image, it should be sRGB to ensure that the image is displayed correctly on line. * Nominal closing date for submissions: 31 March. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My worst shot
From: Mark Roberts Bob W wrote: This is an interesting feature, which might make for a good PUG sometime: http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/gallery/2012/mar/28/photography-wors t-shot First of all... Photo number 5 is from Kingswear in Devon, my home town! (I was born in Hemel Hempstead but we moved to Kingswear before I was a year old.) But photo number two strikes me as a perfect example of how an artist (or a viewer) can turn a good photo into a bad one in their own mind by overanalyzing it. Still, if you're going to tilt the horizon, there ought to be some *reason* for doing so. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The PUG - Nagging Again....
Mine's already sent in. Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: I just got my shot up there. Cheers, Brian! On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: G'day all Following up from my post of a week or so ago, the April PUG is the 15th Anniversary of the first PUG in April 1997 so let's make this the biggest and best PUG ever! So far, submissions have been, shall we say, minimal. Three submissions. Three!! There's no theme this month - just pick a photo you like and send it in. Old farts (sorry, old timers), and those who have strayed from the Pentax fold, might like to consider submitting an image that you previously submitted to an earlier PUG. You can look through the early PUGs via the 'Previous Galleries' link at the bottom of the current PUG page (http://pug.komkon.org/). If you no longer have the image, let me know and I'll extract it from whatever gallery it appeared in. The details: Submit here: http://pug.komkon.org/submit/ Submission Guidelines here: http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html The main requirements are: * Max. pixel dimensions: 800 x 800 pixels * Max file size: 300k * Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body or lens used is Pentax. * If you embed a colour space in the image, it should be sRGB to ensure that the image is displayed correctly on line. * Nominal closing date for submissions: 31 March. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Final pre-K20D photowalk
I have to admit that I have a fair bit of curiosity over why someone with a K-x would want a K20D. Yes, I know that the K20D was the flagship and has the two dials, but it was my understanding that the Sony sensor and resulting IQ high ISO performance of the K-x was actually superior to the flagship, until the K-5 replaced the K20D Can anyone educatify me? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Final pre-K20D photowalk
On 3/30/2012 11:50 AM, Darren Addy wrote: I have to admit that I have a fair bit of curiosity over why someone with a K-x would want a K20D. Yes, I know that the K20D was the flagship and has the two dials, but it was my understanding that the Sony sensor and resulting IQ high ISO performance of the K-x was actually superior to the flagship, until the K-5 replaced the K20D Can anyone educatify me? My main reasons: Build quality, weather sealing, ergonomics, resolution, focus point indicators, and generally easier/quicker access to common functions. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My worst shot
On 3/30/2012 11:49 AM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Mark Roberts Bob W wrote: This is an interesting feature, which might make for a good PUG sometime: http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/gallery/2012/mar/28/photography-wors t-shot First of all... Photo number 5 is from Kingswear in Devon, my home town! (I was born in Hemel Hempstead but we moved to Kingswear before I was a year old.) But photo number two strikes me as a perfect example of how an artist (or a viewer) can turn a good photo into a bad one in their own mind by overanalyzing it. Still, if you're going to tilt the horizon, there ought to be some *reason* for doing so. I have to say I thought the exact same thing on that image. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Guy With a Camera joke
On 29 March 2012 14:40, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: Models often complain about the Guy With a Camera. He'll pretend to know (or likely actually thinks he does) photography, and will hire models not so much as an opportunity to get photos, but to see naked pretty women. When the models do the work TFF/TFP, what they get is so bad it's not usable for their portfolio. The canonical creepy GWC will make inappropriate advances on his models. I posted the following joke on a forum for fetish photography: A GWaC likes to take photos of beautiful women. A photographer takes beautiful photos of women. The thing that I found hilarious was how many people didn't seem to understand that it was a *joke*. Judging by some of the responses, you'd think that I had tried to define the difference between a nerd and a geek and had gotten some facts about Star Trek wrong. Admittedly, if I were going for accuracy I would have phrased it: A GWaC likes to take pictures of beautiful women. A photographer takes beautiful photos. But I think that the first wording is more euphonious. Well, you made ME laugh, Larry. —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photography in public places
My view on the matter: http://enticingthelight.com/2012/03/29/news-from-boston-exercising-you-civil-rights-isnt-against-the-law/ I wish the Law and Common Sense had more than just a passing acquaintance with each other. Cheers, —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment On 28 March 2012 09:04, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Good news for once: http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-57405594-281/boston-admits-it-cell-phone-photography-is-not-a-crime/ -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2012 - 043 - GDG
Thanks for the explanation Godfrey; I don't know how I've gone through all these years of photography without knowing that. I'm off to weigh how much bokeh each of my lenses has. I'm excited! —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment On 25 March 2012 13:18, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: Bob, ermm...so do my APS-C photos not have any bokeh in them...? LOL Bokeh is the quality of the out of focus blur so all cameras and lenses have bokeh. Exactly what the bokeh looks like depends on the format, the lens, the aperture setting, the distance setting, and the scene. Larger formats allow more control of selective focus zone when there's enough lens speed and the magnification of the subject is the same compared to smaller formats. IOW, you can make more blur by narrowing the focus zone with a 50mm lens on 24x36 mm format than you can with 16x24 mm format and a 35mm lens, given the same range of apertures to work with. Bokeh, however, is the quality of the blur, not the magnitude. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Dog and pretty woman in found light
If I were a dog I'd love visiting Dr. Fenger. As for Tessa's eyes (or nose), let's remember that this photo is to promote the Dr, not the dog, and in that respect it works wonderfully, Bruce. —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment On 25 March 2012 12:17, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Lest I become known as that tiresome guy who only posts pix of pretty women, here's a dog too. :-) http://goo.gl/2HkSk This is our vet, Dr. Gitte Fenger DVM, left, and Tessa, our German Short Haired Pointer, right. Dr. Fenger is having an open house at her clinic in April to help promote her practice, and my wife is helping out with some promo to the local papers and such. So enter Mr. Photographer, me. As soon as Dr. Fenger spotted me with the big black SLR and the 50-135 with its hood on, she went into deer-caught-in-the-headlamps mode. Took me a lot of shots until she became relaxed again. But she adores animals so as she interacted with the dog she became herself. Useful trick that's worked before. :-) I took this in the afternoon in her main consultation room, with its large north-west facing windows. All found light, no flash. I did notice that the matrix metering was fooled by something so I went manual and incident-metered the light. Seems the more I shoot, the less I rely on automation. Is this some sort of creeping curmudgeonalization setting in? K20D, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ f/4, 125th, ISO 400. I wish Tessa's nose was less soft, but I'd have had to stop down and either add the flash or up the ISO, and I was running out of time. Oh well, what ya gonna do? Comments welcome but unlikely due to the content. ;-) -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: My worst shot
I appreciate the link being shared, but after looking at the shots, I think the premise is a bit of a farce. [...] Similarly, a photographer that is allowed to choose his own worst shot is probably only showing one that still brags in some way (i shoot celebrities or famous people, I was there for historic events, I travel the world) or a photo that he wishes he could have done more with... not one that truly qualifies as his Worst Shot. I'd have thought it obvious that no-one can have a worst shot, however you may define worst, but the photographers seem to have chosen the near misses which they most regret - the one that got away - and that seems like a reasonable enough definition to me for the purposes of a newspaper article. In any case, I think it's valuable to hear people talking about and analysing their pictures even if they do use it as an ego trip. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: I'm afraid the story isn't nearly as interesting as the photo
portrait: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6882711922/ square: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/7028793435/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est Now, that's a shot you don't get many chances at in western KY! Fun and well-captured, Larry! Isn't that where the Jelly for that sort of thing comes from? B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I'm afraid the story isn't nearly as interesting as the photo
On 3/30/2012 2:02 PM, Bob W wrote: portrait: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6882711922/ square: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/7028793435/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est Now, that's a shot you don't get many chances at in western KY! Fun and well-captured, Larry! Isn't that where the Jelly for that sort of thing comes from? B I think that's Kyrgyzstan. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT- Fix an SLR with Peanut Butter
On 27 March 2012 14:46, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Mar 27, 2012, at 10:21 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Masterful. On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 6:18 AM, Anthony Farr farranth...@gmail.com wrote: A tasty repair job: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=iTLdAyrLMAI I thought this one was even more interesting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyylOp4n72gfeature=relmfu Good catch, Larry! I've flown the Heathrow-Cape Town route on British Airways before and it's nowhere near as exciting when you're doing it in Economy Class :-) —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: If carpenters discussed hammers the way people (we?) discuss cameras
This is flipping hilarious: http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2012/03/hammerforum-com -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: If carpenters discussed hammers the way people (we?) discuss cameras
On 3/30/2012 2:26 PM, Charles Robinson wrote: This is flipping hilarious: http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2012/03/hammerforum-com -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson That's one of the greatest things I've read in recent memory! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: If carpenters discussed hammers the way people (we?) discuss cameras
Beautiful! I've facebooked it. On 3/30/2012 12:26 PM, Charles Robinson wrote: This is flipping hilarious: http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2012/03/hammerforum-com -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (from dos4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I'm afraid the story isn't nearly as interesting as the photo
I need to get out more. And do so with you, clearly. Square for me too, Larry. —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment On 30 March 2012 03:25, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: This picture might convince some of you that my life is far more interesting than it really is. I'm just good at going to places where I can find interesting photos. The young lady in the photo wanted me to take her picture with the cute bartender. This is the one that I liked the best, but I'm not sure which crop works best: portrait: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6882711922/ square: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/7028793435/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2012/03/hammerforum-com Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I'm afraid the story isn't nearly as interesting as the photo
On 3/30/2012 1:06 PM, Miserere wrote: I need to get out more. And do so with you, clearly. Given my druthers, I'd rather go out with who you stay in with. She's much cuter than you. Square for me too, Larry. Thanks. That seems to be the consensus. There's something about the portrait crop that I thought gave more a sense of depth and space, but the square crop definitely makes it easier to see the people. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (from dos4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I'm afraid the story isn't nearly as interesting as the photo
On 30 March 2012 16:10, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On 3/30/2012 1:06 PM, Miserere wrote: I need to get out more. And do so with you, clearly. Given my druthers, I'd rather go out with who you stay in with. She's much cuter than you. That's not saying much, Larry--even the K-01 is cuter than me. But I get your point. —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Dog and pretty woman in found light
There is much truth in this post. -- Walt On 3/30/2012 1:52 PM, Miserere wrote: If I were a dog I'd love visiting Dr. Fenger. As for Tessa's eyes (or nose), let's remember that this photo is to promote the Dr, not the dog, and in that respect it works wonderfully, Bruce. —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment On 25 March 2012 12:17, Bruce Walkerbruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Lest I become known as that tiresome guy who only posts pix of pretty women, here's a dog too. :-) http://goo.gl/2HkSk This is our vet, Dr. Gitte Fenger DVM, left, and Tessa, our German Short Haired Pointer, right. Dr. Fenger is having an open house at her clinic in April to help promote her practice, and my wife is helping out with some promo to the local papers and such. So enter Mr. Photographer, me. As soon as Dr. Fenger spotted me with the big black SLR and the 50-135 with its hood on, she went into deer-caught-in-the-headlamps mode. Took me a lot of shots until she became relaxed again. But she adores animals so as she interacted with the dog she became herself. Useful trick that's worked before. :-) I took this in the afternoon in her main consultation room, with its large north-west facing windows. All found light, no flash. I did notice that the matrix metering was fooled by something so I went manual and incident-metered the light. Seems the more I shoot, the less I rely on automation. Is this some sort of creeping curmudgeonalization setting in? K20D, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ f/4, 125th, ISO 400. I wish Tessa's nose was less soft, but I'd have had to stop down and either add the flash or up the ISO, and I was running out of time. Oh well, what ya gonna do? Comments welcome but unlikely due to the content. ;-) -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: If you use Lightroom and need a new MacBook
As followup on this thread: Adobe released Lightroom 4.1RC yesterday. I decided to test it, along with an external drive that a client was having some problems with. So last night I copied a 300G subset of my original image file repository to it (drive works fine, I think the client's 2006 MacBook simply isn't putting out enough power on the USB or FireWire ports to support a 500G portable drive...). This morning I used LR4.1RC to create a new catalog and import all those files in place (19,700 12 to 18 Mpixel raw originals plus a few hundred 60-130 Mbyte TIFF-DNG scan files), creating a full cache of normal size previews in the process. With the MacBook Pro 13 and 2.4Ghz processor, Import in place took about 25 minutes, then it started the preview rendering process. I stopped it to head to the office and carried the drive with me. Now I have it continuing the preview process in the background while I do all my other work in another space. Memory is all being used, but I'm not seeing any slow-downs either in Lightroom or in my other work, so whatever the MacBook Air's i5 1.7Ghz processor is doing seems to be working just fine. The preview rendering process is about 2/3 of the way to completed, should be done by the time I go home. I've edited and exported a few photos while it was doing that too, just to see, and the performance is just fine for me. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My worst shot
On 3/30/2012 1:59 PM, Bob W wrote: I appreciate the link being shared, but after looking at the shots, I think the premise is a bit of a farce. [...] Similarly, a photographer that is allowed to choose his own worst shot is probably only showing one that still brags in some way (i shoot celebrities or famous people, I was there for historic events, I travel the world) or a photo that he wishes he could have done more with... not one that truly qualifies as his Worst Shot. I'd have thought it obvious that no-one can have a worst shot, however you may define worst, but the photographers seem to have chosen the near misses which they most regret - the one that got away - and that seems like a reasonable enough definition to me for the purposes of a newspaper article. In any case, I think it's valuable to hear people talking about and analysing their pictures even if they do use it as an ego trip. B It strikes me that if any of these shots are the worst ones of any of these photographers, they must be completely hidebound in their work and have been phoning it in for the their entire careers. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: If you use Lightroom and need a new MacBook
on 2012-03-30 14:32 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote I've edited and exported a few photos while it was doing that too, just to see, and the performance is just fine for me. are you saying you feel that LR4.1RC improves performance over 4.0? (still waiting for my LR4 from Adobe, supposedly shipped 20 March...) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another undiscovered photographer's trove of photos found...
On 29 March 2012 17:23, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.npr.org/blogs/pictureshow/2012/03/29/149607939/found-in-a-closet-a-photo-trove-of-60s-icons This guy had talent! He made a choice to leave it all behind, but he didn't burn his photos, so I begrudge his boss nothing if he's brining the images to the public. —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Young Love
On 27 March 2012 21:49, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/03/young-love.html Either it's true love or he's showing her a splinter. ;-) Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank I think you captured a young Jennifer Lopez wonderfully. —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Tele-Zoom Lens
The F 70-210mm is excellent on digital too. Sharp throughout it's range, very low distortion, and very good contrast. Resolution better than needed even on the K20Dsensor and I would expect the same even with a K-5. It's only problem mechanically is that the zoom is controlled through a cam and pin, with the pin held in place by two screws. If either screw comes loose it can jam both the zoom ring and the focus rings, if both come loose the zoom ring will spin beyond it's normal range and mangle the data brush which is quite delicate and is no longer available, rendering any repair problematic, which is something to keep in mind. I've owned two of them and one is now a parts lens, the other is awaiting a convenient time for me to send it in for repair, (accompanied by the parts lens). On 3/30/2012 5:56 AM, Carlos R. wrote: Daniel, of the lenses you mentioned I have the SMC-F 80-200mm 4.7-5.6 Its advantages are: lightweight, 49mm filter thread, internal zoom (the lens doesn't change its length when zoomed), good IQ (though not outstanding, but better than most people think), cheap price, metal lens mount, fast focusing, small size. On the less side: slow (4.7-5.6), cheap build quality. All in all, its a good lens if you want it small, light and cheap. If you need something faster, you'll pay the price both in money and weight. A better quality alternative is the SMC-F 70-210mm 4-5.6. Its IQ is excellent, at least on film (not to be confused with the FA 70-200mm power zoom or the non-SMC F 70-200 4.5.6). Carlos -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Caterpillar
You did manage a good shot of a slightly gross creature :-) And take THAT Mr Hobby! No strobes! —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment On 24 March 2012 12:40, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for viewing and commenting, all of you. As said in the blog, this critter surprised us by parading our kitchen table at breakfast. I transferred it to the twig and brought it into the living room where I set up a black bag as background, and used the sunlight through the window to light the scene. It was a very educating experience to work under these almost-controlled conditions. Because of the black background I eventually ended up doing shots at -3 stops compensation to avoid highlight burnouts. I also learned how fast a caterpillar can move, and highly recommend using high ISO for this sort of photography. I used ISO 1600, and even at 1/500s I only got a few shots without motion blur. Jostein Rick Womer wrote: Superb! Lighting, composition, detail, the cooperative pose of the caterpillar--it all works wonderfully. David J Brooks wrote: Excellent Frank Theriault wrote: That's an amazing photo. The light is quite sublime. Larry Colen wrote: What? you aren't content for us just to hate you for your landscape photos? Daniel J. Matyola wrote: I really like the way the light seems to make the caterpillar glow. Walt Gilbert wrote: Well, now. That's pretty damned nice! -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My worst shot
With so many to pick from, how to choose? I just spent about an hour looking through thousands of shots for one to submit for the April gallery. It would take many hours picking the worst. Ted The eye of the viewer becomes the eye of the Photographer. Albert Maysles -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another undiscovered photographer's trove of photos found...
Just found this trailer for the book on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHjC7se6MQ0 —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment On 30 March 2012 16:44, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: On 29 March 2012 17:23, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.npr.org/blogs/pictureshow/2012/03/29/149607939/found-in-a-closet-a-photo-trove-of-60s-icons This guy had talent! He made a choice to leave it all behind, but he didn't burn his photos, so I begrudge his boss nothing if he's brining the images to the public. —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: If you use Lightroom and need a new MacBook
Yes, it is significantly snappier, particularly at startup time. I'd just download it and use Lr 4.1RC until your official arrives. The final release of 4.1 is likely not more than a week or two away. http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/lightroom4-1.html G On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 1:41 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: on 2012-03-30 14:32 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote I've edited and exported a few photos while it was doing that too, just to see, and the performance is just fine for me. are you saying you feel that LR4.1RC improves performance over 4.0? (still waiting for my LR4 from Adobe, supposedly shipped 20 March...) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: If you use Lightroom and need a new MacBook
on 2012-03-30 15:30 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote Yes, it is significantly snappier, particularly at startup time. I'd just download it and use Lr 4.1RC until your official arrives. The final release of 4.1 is likely not more than a week or two away. http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/lightroom4-1.html good idea to download the RC, thanks; i will have it in 3 hours or so i double-checked and my free upgrade fulfillment for LR4, requested 6 March, is in three different statuses at Adobe: * upgrade support case says order placed 20 March, expect it in 5-7 days from then * order history says the order was placed 15 March but no shipping info * order status says Order Pending. We have received your order and are working on fulfilling it. You will receive an automated notification when your order ships. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My worst shot
I can't SHOW you my worst shots, but I can tell you that they were of a wedding ceremony taken with no film in the camera. (Sad but true.) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The PUG - Nagging Again....
Quoting Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com: Mine's already sent in. Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: I just got my shot up there. Cheers, Brian! Cheers back at ya! Both received A-OK. I'm about to send another nag to the list -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
April (15th Anniversary) PUG
At the risk of repeating myself. The April PUG is the 15th Anniversary of the first PUG in April 1997 so let's make this the biggest and best PUG ever! So far we have 23 submissions - surely we can do better! This is shaping up to be the best gallery ever - you wouldn't want to miss out on being a part of it. There's no theme this month - just pick a photo you like and send it in. Old farts (sorry, old timers), and those who have strayed from the Pentax fold, might like to consider submitting an image that you previously submitted to an earlier PUG. You can look through the early PUGs via the 'Previous Galleries' link at the bottom of the current PUG page (http://pug.komkon.org/). If you no longer have the image, let me know and I'll extract it from whatever gallery it appeared in. The nominal closing date for submissions is - um, just about now. But I'm going to keep the submission form active until the end of next week. The details: Submit here: http://pug.komkon.org/submit/ Submission Guidelines here: http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html The main requirements are: * Max. pixel dimensions: 800 pixels on the longest side. * Max file size: 300k * Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body or lens used is Pentax. * If you embed a colour space in the image, it should be sRGB to ensure that the image is displayed correctly on line. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I'm afraid the story isn't nearly as interesting as the photo
On Mar 30, 2012, at 1:15 PM, Miserere wrote: On 30 March 2012 16:10, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On 3/30/2012 1:06 PM, Miserere wrote: I need to get out more. And do so with you, clearly. Given my druthers, I'd rather go out with who you stay in with. She's much cuter than you. That's not saying much, Larry--even the K-01 is cuter than me. But I get your point. You could try getting someone to sign their name on your butt and see if that makes you as pretty as a K-01. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Intermission 2
There was an intermission in the Intermission series while I took a business trip to Minneapolis. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15419355size=lg For photo.net-ophobes: http://phillyrick.smugmug.com/Other/Photo-Every-So-Often/22104662_KBBF9K#!i=1764265603k=5ZzJCk7lb=1s=A Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: My worst shot
Quoting Bob W p...@web-options.com: I appreciate the link being shared, but after looking at the shots, I think the premise is a bit of a farce. [...] Similarly, a photographer that is allowed to choose his own worst shot is probably only showing one that still brags in some way (i shoot celebrities or famous people, I was there for historic events, I travel the world) or a photo that he wishes he could have done more with... not one that truly qualifies as his Worst Shot. I'd have thought it obvious that no-one can have a worst shot, however you may define worst, but the photographers seem to have chosen the near misses which they most regret - the one that got away - and that seems like a reasonable enough definition to me for the purposes of a newspaper article. Yes - if this turns into a future PUG theme (and I've made a note...), something like 'Close but no cigar' might be a good title. I fear a PUG theme of 'My worst shot' would turn into a truly appalling gallery. Besides which, we've all deleted our worst shots, haven't we? -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: If carpenters discussed hammers the way people (we?) discuss cameras
Quoting Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com: This is flipping hilarious: http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2012/03/hammerforum-com Kenny Boy will now forever be known as Ken Rockbuster. Seems to fit somehow. As it happens, I bought a hammer just yesterday - looks like I got the wrong one... That is truly a classic - thanks for the link. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My worst shot
On 30 March 2012 18:13, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: Yes - if this turns into a future PUG theme (and I've made a note...), something like 'Close but no cigar' might be a good title. I fear a PUG theme of 'My worst shot' would turn into a truly appalling gallery. Besides which, we've all deleted our worst shots, haven't we? Yep, which is why all my GOOD shots are stored on a floppy disc. —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My worst shot
On 3/30/2012 5:30 PM, Miserere wrote: On 30 March 2012 18:13, Brian Waltersapathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: Yes - if this turns into a future PUG theme (and I've made a note...), something like 'Close but no cigar' might be a good title. I fear a PUG theme of 'My worst shot' would turn into a truly appalling gallery. Besides which, we've all deleted our worst shots, haven't we? Yep, which is why all my GOOD shots are stored on a floppy disc. —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment Same here. Which reminds me, I really need to scare up another 5.25 drive somewhere in case mine goes on the fritz. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT: If carpenters discussed hammers the way people (we?) discuss cameras
They didn't talk about workflow... Lots o' fun, though. :-) cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com Sent: March 30, 2012 3/30/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: OT: If carpenters discussed hammers the way people (we?) discuss cameras This is flipping hilarious: http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2012/03/hammerforum-com -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: If carpenters discussed hammers the way people (we?) discuss cameras
on 2012-03-30 13:26 Charles Robinson wrote This is flipping hilarious: http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2012/03/hammerforum-com everyone knows that nail sharpness is overrated; a slightly blunt nail will give a carpenter with a good eye a better capture in the grain -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: If carpenters discussed hammers the way people (we?) discuss cameras
Besides which, nails are like photographs: Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. ;-) Cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: steve harley p...@paper-ape.com Sent: March 30, 2012 3/30/12 everyone knows that nail sharpness is overrated; a slightly blunt nail will give a carpenter with a good eye a better capture in the grain -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Young Love
Thanks! :-) cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Miserere miser...@gmail.com Sent: March 30, 2012 3/30/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Young Love On 27 March 2012 21:49, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/03/young-love.html Either it's true love or he's showing her a splinter. ;-) Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank I think you captured a young Jennifer Lopez wonderfully. —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - Intermission 2
Very well composed. For some reason I like those three ushers in the red jackets; interesting element. All in all a strong photo. Cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com Sent: March 30, 2012 3/30/12 To: Pentax List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO - Intermission 2 There was an intermission in the Intermission series while I took a business trip to Minneapolis. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15419355size=lg For photo.net-ophobes: http://phillyrick.smugmug.com/Other/Photo-Every-So-Often/22104662_KBBF9K#!i=1764265603k=5ZzJCk7lb=1s=A Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Intermission 2
Thanks, Frank! They are what attracted me, too. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 8:13 PM Subject: RE: PESO - Intermission 2 Very well composed. For some reason I like those three ushers in the red jackets; interesting element. All in all a strong photo. Cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com Sent: March 30, 2012 3/30/12 To: Pentax List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO - Intermission 2 There was an intermission in the Intermission series while I took a business trip to Minneapolis. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15419355size=lg For photo.net-ophobes: http://phillyrick.smugmug.com/Other/Photo-Every-So-Often/22104662_KBBF9K#!i=1764265603k=5ZzJCk7lb=1s=A Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Young Love
Not sure about the caption, but the photo is nice--lighting and composition are great. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 9:49 PM Subject: PESO - Young Love http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/03/young-love.html Either it's true love or he's showing her a splinter. ;-) Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Pentaxian on vacation
There's a clock on the wall. Too much pressure on vacation. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 1:48 AM Subject: PESO: Pentaxian on vacation What we all really look like: https://plus.google.com/photos/107606703558161507946/albums/5724819853811358481/5724819853464484178 It was a nice modest friendly little beachfront-condo resort; if you’re considering a Maui excursion ping me and I’ll introduce you. -T -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Friday Night at Coffee Time
Yes, well, they're both at home. And I'm not. :-) cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com Sent: March 30, 2012 3/30/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Friday Night at Coffee Time I think you should stick to the istD and K10D. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com To: PDML@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 9:20 PM Subject: PESO - Friday Night at Coffee Time Taken moments ago, processed in phone with the Photoshop Express app and loaded onto my newly created Photoshop account (which I intend to use only for remote phone shots): http://www.photoshop.com/users/knarftheriault/albums/44a6e430109b42ac95854b39f3a73855/view#159c66b28ea14986afb6879b88d665d5 This has to be the longest goddam url ~ever~! You could also try this: *http://tinyurl.com/c4mffhl* This is an experiment. My first ever completely android-generated peso! Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome. Cheers, frank, in his own Brave New World What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Final pre-K20D photowalk
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: I have to admit that I have a fair bit of curiosity over why someone with a K-x would want a K20D. Yes, I know that the K20D was the flagship and has the two dials, but it was my understanding that the Sony sensor and resulting IQ high ISO performance of the K-x was actually superior to the flagship, until the K-5 replaced the K20D Can anyone educatify me? Short version: there's a *lot* more to photography than high ISO performance. Suggestion: download the user manual PDF for both cameras and compare them. There are things in a K20D class body (and K-7, K-5) that K-x (K-r) owners would boggle at. Many/most of these things don't matter one jot to people who don't make a living from their camera, or don't care to sync external flashes, or don't care to colour calibrate their workflow end-to-end, etc. There's a lot in a semi-pro camera body like this. After owning a K20D for over three years, I've almost tried all the features in it. It's still not holding me back. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Dog and pretty woman in found light
All the dogs I know love Dr. Fenger. Thanks, Miserere! On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: If I were a dog I'd love visiting Dr. Fenger. As for Tessa's eyes (or nose), let's remember that this photo is to promote the Dr, not the dog, and in that respect it works wonderfully, Bruce. —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment On 25 March 2012 12:17, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Lest I become known as that tiresome guy who only posts pix of pretty women, here's a dog too. :-) http://goo.gl/2HkSk This is our vet, Dr. Gitte Fenger DVM, left, and Tessa, our German Short Haired Pointer, right. Dr. Fenger is having an open house at her clinic in April to help promote her practice, and my wife is helping out with some promo to the local papers and such. So enter Mr. Photographer, me. As soon as Dr. Fenger spotted me with the big black SLR and the 50-135 with its hood on, she went into deer-caught-in-the-headlamps mode. Took me a lot of shots until she became relaxed again. But she adores animals so as she interacted with the dog she became herself. Useful trick that's worked before. :-) I took this in the afternoon in her main consultation room, with its large north-west facing windows. All found light, no flash. I did notice that the matrix metering was fooled by something so I went manual and incident-metered the light. Seems the more I shoot, the less I rely on automation. Is this some sort of creeping curmudgeonalization setting in? K20D, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ f/4, 125th, ISO 400. I wish Tessa's nose was less soft, but I'd have had to stop down and either add the flash or up the ISO, and I was running out of time. Oh well, what ya gonna do? Comments welcome but unlikely due to the content. ;-) -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photography in public places
From: Miserere My view on the matter: http://enticingthelight.com/2012/03/29/news-from-boston-exercising-you-civil-rights-isnt-against-the-law/ I wish the Law and Common Sense had more than just a passing acquaintance with each other. Cheers, I just wish I could be confident the court's decisions in this case would be applicable precedent beyond the first circuit. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Pentax Service Express Lane
Well, whadaya know! My camera, which I sent to Arizona on Monday, is already heading back home. Repaired. Woot! :) -c -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Any PDML members doing Alternative Processes?
I'm interested in alternative processes and was watching some youtube videos on digital negatives and inkjet transfers last week. I've been experimenting with simulated inkjet dye transfer printing and actually got a really nice print doing that last week - more by random chance than anything since the registration of the 4 passes through the printer is usually pretty poor. But hti sone print came out really nice. From time to time I experiment with alternative processes regarding film processing - like film solarization, alternative developers (coffee, tea) - I keep meaning to try developing film in hops extract but I'm not sure hops has the right chemistry for it. Gotta just get some and try it. A while back I was also experimenting with developing various films (like C41 and E6 films) in high potency developers (D19, Dektol) and then not fixing the film but scanning the faint image that would appear in the emulsion as a print, reversing and toning for a BW image. It worked OK but aside from the gimmick factor the image was nothing remarkable. I manage one or two alternate projects a year - too little time. I've not done anything with printing processes like you mention - I turned printing over to digital processes long ago. MCC On 3/30/2012 11:37 AM, Darren Addy wrote: I miss old school printmaking. But more than that, I'm becoming increasingly fascinated by the Really Old School processes that are today euphemistically called Alternative Processes. These include: Cyanotype Kallitype (including Van Dyke brown) Platinum prints etc. What is interesting to me is that virtually all of these are contact print processes. Now not a lot of people are shooting large format film today. So what's up with the revival in interest in Alternative Processes? Well, digital has done wonders for old school contact printing. You can now print out large format digital negatives on transparency film using ink jet printers. The larger format the printer, the larger the transparency (negative) that you can produce. You probably already have a great library of images that you could work from. Images that could take on a whole new life as a Platinum print, or a Cyanotype, for example. Some of these processes can even be used on fabric, meaning you could make some gnarly t-shirts to show off your own images. For those interested in learning more, I recommend: http://www.alternativephotography.com/wp/processes or the f295 forums: http://www.f295.org/Pinholeforum/forum/Blah.pl (scroll down to the forums for Hand Crafted, Historic Process, and Non-Conventional Images) Ron Reeder is one of the recognized experts in creating digital negatives. His process (used by many) is outlined in this inexpensive eBook: http://www.lulu.com/shop/ron-reeder/digital-negatives-for-palladium-and-other-alternative-processes/ebook/product-17429855.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Pentax Service Express Lane
That's great gnus! cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net Sent: March 30, 2012 3/30/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Pentax Service Express Lane Well, whadaya know! My camera, which I sent to Arizona on Monday, is already heading back home. Repaired. Woot! :) -c -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Service Express Lane
I'll remember this the next time someone starts yakking about Pentax's poor customer relations. -- Walt On 3/30/2012 10:00 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: That's great gnus! cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Christine Nielsench...@inielsen.net Sent: March 30, 2012 3/30/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Subject: Pentax Service Express Lane Well, whadaya know! My camera, which I sent to Arizona on Monday, is already heading back home. Repaired. Woot! :) -c -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO -- G
Nothing special, just a bit of architectural detail. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20g.html Equipment: Pentax K20D w/vmc Vivitar Series 1 70-210mm f2.8~4.0 As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO -- G
I think it's amazing! What is it? cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com Sent: March 30, 2012 3/30/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO -- G Nothing special, just a bit of architectural detail. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20g.html Equipment: Pentax K20D w/vmc Vivitar Series 1 70-210mm f2.8~4.0 As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Friday Night at Coffee Time
If I've amused you then my evening can be counted as a success. ;-) cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Walt Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com Sent: March 30, 2012 3/30/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Friday Night at Coffee Time I like the motion blur in the person walking over on the right side of the frame, though the rest of the image isn't quite up to your typical standards. Nevertheless, I couldn't help getting a good belly laugh out of your vexation with the length of the original URL. So, all in all, a great post. -- Walt On 3/30/2012 8:20 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Taken moments ago, processed in phone with the Photoshop Express app and loaded onto my newly created Photoshop account (which I intend to use only for remote phone shots): http://www.photoshop.com/users/knarftheriault/albums/44a6e430109b42ac95854b39f3a73855/view#159c66b28ea14986afb6879b88d665d5 This has to be the longest goddam url ~ever~! You could also try this: *http://tinyurl.com/c4mffhl* This is an experiment. My first ever completely android-generated peso! Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome. Cheers, frank, in his own Brave New World What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- G
On 3/30/2012 10:13 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Nothing special, just a bit of architectural detail. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20g.html Equipment: Pentax K20D w/vmc Vivitar Series 1 70-210mm f2.8~4.0 As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. I like the gentle lighting but for the section immediately below the G. It looks like pretty challenging light to work with overall, and you made the most of it in getting good detail throughout. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
GESO - NPC - A Few Holga SHots
Non Pentax Content - A few Holga shots from recent weeks - I'm excited about the prospect of getting some useable IR shots from Ilford SFX in the Holga. Now: http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php Later - the stand alone postL http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/a-few-holga-shots-2012?blog=2title=a-few-holga-shots-2012disp=singlemore=1c=1tb=1pb=1 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: GESO - NPC - A Few Holga SHots
I especially like the church, Mark. The soft vignetting and other Holga-isms emphasize the charm and anachronisms of the old chapel so nicely. Beautiful! The rest of the little gallery is lovely, too. Cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net Sent: March 30, 2012 3/30/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: GESO - NPC - A Few Holga SHots Non Pentax Content - A few Holga shots from recent weeks - I'm excited about the prospect of getting some useable IR shots from Ilford SFX in the Holga. Now: http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php Later - the stand alone postL http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/a-few-holga-shots-2012?blog=2title=a-few-holga-shots-2012disp=singlemore=1c=1tb=1pb=1 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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photo folder
Hey guys and girls, I am back. Been off the list for a while. I did speak to Ann S a few times on the phone. I just added some photos to this folder which is flowers and bugs. Here is the link http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=851371 I added copyright info to the face of the first eight photos that I just uploaded. Thoughts ? The reason is some of my photos have been showing on other people's web pages. One of my car photos that was published in Super Stock Magazine is on a SmugMug web page. This photo is just to show the lighting used, http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15446613 The Daffodils where shot with a 100 mm macro Pentax lens and the Spider photos where shot with the Pentax 200 mm Macro lensJoe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Today's gift
On 3/28/2012 1:22 PM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: A kind man, a film photographer, gave me (with the purchase of a K1000 several lenses) a frozen brick of APX 25 / 120. Wowzer! Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott Wowzer indeed! You lucky dawg... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: photo folder
Welcome back, Joe! All very good photos, but the spider shots are amazing. cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: jn289 jn...@verizon.net Sent: March 31, 2012 3/31/12 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: photo folder Hey guys and girls, I am back. Been off the list for a while. I did speak to Ann S a few times on the phone. I just added some photos to this folder which is flowers and bugs. Here is the link http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=851371 I added copyright info to the face of the first eight photos that I just uploaded. Thoughts ? The reason is some of my photos have been showing on other people's web pages. One of my car photos that was published in Super Stock Magazine is on a SmugMug web page. This photo is just to show the lighting used, http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15446613 The Daffodils where shot with a 100 mm macro Pentax lens and the Spider photos where shot with the Pentax 200 mm Macro lensJoe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
