Re: nanda devi/ milam glacier trek photos

2012-05-23 Thread Bulent Celasun
Must have been a very enjoyable trip.
I especially liked the portraits.

Bulent

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2012/5/23 Subash pdml.l...@gmail.com:
 hi,

 a large gallery, but hopefully the thumbnail view would let you see
 what you want to see:

 https://picasaweb.google.com/117979942681874882460/Nandadevi

 do let me know what you like and what you don't

 thanks, subash

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RE: nanda devi/ milam glacier trek photos

2012-05-23 Thread Bob W
fantastic shots - what a great adventure!

B

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 hi,
 
 a large gallery, but hopefully the thumbnail view would let you see
 what you want to see:
 
 https://picasaweb.google.com/117979942681874882460/Nandadevi
 
 do let me know what you like and what you don't
 
 thanks, subash
 
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Re: nanda devi/ milam glacier trek photos

2012-05-23 Thread Subash
On Wed, 23 May 2012 07:57:48 +0100
Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

 what a great adventure!

it was. thanks Bob, Bulent, Cotty, Larry and Steve. appreciate it... 

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RE: PESO - Another Tree Swallow

2012-05-23 Thread John Sessoms

From: frank theriault


I may like this tree swallow more than the one from a few days ago
~except~ for that bright yellow oof bit in the bottom left.  Do you
think it's too much of a distraction, or can you live with it?  I'd be
very curious to get the reaction of the list:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/05/another-tree-swallow.html

Thanks in advance.  Hope you enjoy.

cheers,
frank


It's not a distraction for me.

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Re: nanda devi/ milam glacier trek photos

2012-05-23 Thread Jack Davis
Absolutely terrific gallery, Subash!
All are well composed, pleasing images.

Jack

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Subject: nanda devi/ milam glacier trek photos

hi,

a large gallery, but hopefully the thumbnail view would let you see
what you want to see:

https://picasaweb.google.com/117979942681874882460/Nandadevi

do let me know what you like and what you don't

thanks, subash

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RE: PESO - Nesting by the Yacht Club

2012-05-23 Thread John Sessoms

From: knarftheriault


I believe that I forgot a hyphen.

And a couple of letters.

It is in fact a red-necked grebe.

Named Bubba.

;-)

Okay, now that I've pissed off everyone south of the Mason Dixon
Line, let me thank all who looked and commented. Glad you liked it.

Cheers, frank


Frank,

You wound me deeply. Why would I be pissed off.

Don't you know we southerners don't get mad ...

8-D

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OT: Word vertical image alignment

2012-05-23 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
I need to vertically align a row of pics in a table cell.
But it won't work.  Text alignment with pics will work
horizontally but not vertically.


Sincerely, 

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Re: OT: Word vertical image alignment

2012-05-23 Thread Mark Roberts
Collin Brendemuehl wrote:

I need to vertically align a row of pics in a table cell.
But it won't work.  Text alignment with pics will work
horizontally but not vertically.

Are you trying to do with CSS or in the HTML? Could you show a sample
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Re: OT: Word vertical image alignment

2012-05-23 Thread Mark Roberts
Collin Brendemuehl wrote:

I need to vertically align a row of pics in a table cell.
But it won't work.  Text alignment with pics will work
horizontally but not vertically.

Oops. Ignore first message: I missed the word Word and thought you
were talking webspeak.
 
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New DA50/1.8 Plastic Mount

2012-05-23 Thread Tom C
Come on Pentax! How else are you shaving costs?  Talk about making
yourself look cheap.

Tom C.

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Re: New DA50/1.8 Plastic Mount

2012-05-23 Thread Kenton Brede
If optically the lens is above average to superb, looks like a good
value to me, given the price.  Those who want higher quality and spend
more can opt for the DA * 55mm.  Choices are good I think.
My 2 cents. :)

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 Come on Pentax! How else are you shaving costs?  Talk about making
 yourself look cheap.

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Re: nanda devi/ milam glacier trek photos

2012-05-23 Thread Paul Stenquist
Excellent work. Dynamic scenery and fascinating shots of the residents. Well 
done.
Paul
On May 22, 2012, at 9:33 PM, Subash wrote:

 hi,
 
 a large gallery, but hopefully the thumbnail view would let you see
 what you want to see:
 
 https://picasaweb.google.com/117979942681874882460/Nandadevi
 
 do let me know what you like and what you don't
 
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Re: Rumor of a new intro Pentax Body

2012-05-23 Thread Charles Robinson
On May 22, 2012, at 13:59, John Sessoms wrote:
 
 Yeah, I could see it being in between K-3  K-z, but I just don't see it as 
 the K-5's successor.
 
 From the specs, the only RAW format it offers is DNG.
 
 K-5:  RAW (PEF, DNG), JPG (EXIF 2.21), DCF 2.0 compliant, DPOF, PIM III
 K-r:  RAW (PEF, DNG), JPG (EXIF 2.21), DCF 2.0, DPOF, Print Image Matching III
 K-30: RAW (DNG), JPG (EXIF 2.3), DCF 2.0 compliant, DPOF, PIM III
 

..which brings to mind this question:  Why bother with the PEF RAW format at 
all anymore?  Is there a single benefit?

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Re: New DA50/1.8 Plastic Mount

2012-05-23 Thread Charles Robinson
On May 23, 2012, at 8:25, Tom C wrote:

 Come on Pentax! How else are you shaving costs?  Talk about making
 yourself look cheap.
 

I have no complaints with the nice crisp images coming from my all-plastic DA 
35 f2.4.  It seems to be holding up quite well and frankly I don't give a rat's 
patootie what the mount is made of as long as it works.  And it does.

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Re: New DA50/1.8 Plastic Mount

2012-05-23 Thread Tom C
I imagine plastic can be pretty durable but it just seems to me that
the part of the lens that mates up against the metal mount on the body
should be made of like material. Surely the price of a metal ring is
not extravagantly high. If a plastic ring cost a penny and and a metal
ring $5 (which I doubt), it would still be worth it.

Tom C.

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Re: K-5 and Sigma 300 f4 APO, again

2012-05-23 Thread David J Brooks
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 11:12 PM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote:


 Not sure what going on, the lens worked very well with the istD and k-10d.

 Any thoughts??


 Dave

 If it's not the SR going crazy Like P.J. suggested, then I'd say you
 have a loose lens element in the lens. That picture reminds me of a
 lens I partially took apart to clean the diaphragm blades, and then
 couldn't remember the correct sequence for the rear 3 elements. I
 tried various combinations, and the least crap one (though incorrect)
 produced photos like that.

It only happens with this lens, so i'm thinking SR might be ok. I
ll see if i can spot anything loose, maybe a trip to Gentec for them
to have a look.

Dave

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Re: PESO - Another Tree Swallow

2012-05-23 Thread David J Brooks
No distraction here , but then again, what whats that, ok be right over.

Dave

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 I may like this tree swallow more than the one from a few days ago
 ~except~ for that bright yellow oof bit in the bottom left.  Do you
 think it's too much of a distraction, or can you live with it?  I'd be
 very curious to get the reaction of the list:

 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/05/another-tree-swallow.html

 Thanks in advance.  Hope you enjoy.

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Re: First PESO in a long while

2012-05-23 Thread David J Brooks
Very lovely

Dave

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 Hiking in New Hapmshire (Mount Monadnock) a few days ago, we saw some
 fine painted Trilliums. Herre's the best photo of the lot: Hiking in
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Re: K-30 vs K-5

2012-05-23 Thread Rick Womer
The difference in detail between the 12 and 14-bit images is far from minimal.

Rick
 
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Subject: Re: K-30 vs K-5

In practice the difference is minimal.

http://www.earthboundlight.com/phototips/nikon-d300-d3-14-bit-versus-12-bit.html

Bit depth does not equal stops of DR.

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:20 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 On May 22, 2012, at 3:43 PM, steve harley wrote:

 on 2012-05-22 11:31 Rick Womer wrote
 I think another big difference will be the 12 v. 14 bit/channel RAW--I 
 suspect those extra bits in the K-5 are where the great DR lives.

 that concerns me too, but somehow dxomark rates the dynamic range of the K 
 01 12.9 Evs vs 14.1 Evs for K-5 — just over a stop of difference rather than 
 the two stops that the data path would support, but still a significant 
 difference

 (it would seem odd that 12 bits can support almost 13 stops of dynamic 
 range; i suspect that some sort of dynamic range compression is used, or 
 that i don't understand dxomark's measurement system)


 I think that it can measure 13 stops of dynamic range, but with only 12 bits 
 of resolution.  In other words, the fewest photons it can sense is 100, but 
 anything between 100 and 200 (actually 300?) will read as 0x0001.  The most 
 that it can read before clipping is 819200 photons, but it reads that os 
 0x0FFF (4095).  Meanwhile a 14 bit A/D with 13bits of dynamic range would 
 read 100 photons as 0x0002, and 819200 photons as 0x3FFF (16,383), or it 
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Re: New DA50/1.8 Plastic Mount

2012-05-23 Thread Darren Addy
While I agree that the DA L lenses smack of cheapness, I also think
that is the point.
They are gateway lenses that are designed to nudge someone who
bought a camera with only the kit lens(es) into the world of LBA and
specifically the world of PRIME lenses. Once you have spent $200-$300
for a lens, spending $500-600 doesn't look quite as formidable the
psyche.

If Pentax is making a mistake, it is in making the inexpensive line
perform so well in the IQ department that the user feels no need to
ever upgrade. I think enough people are happy with their 35mm f2.4,
for example, that they don't feel the need to spend the extra for an
f2.0, ever.

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Re: GESO: South Downs Way

2012-05-23 Thread Rick Womer
I really enjoyed these.  The mud pic is certainly disgusting.  The misty and 
sunny day pics are beautiful.

Rick
 
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Subject: GESO: South Downs Way

Hi all - I've been a bit quiet lately owing to being in the wilds of
Hampshire and Sussex. Lots to catch up on by the looks of it.

Karin and I walked the South Downs Way, a 100 mile footpath from
Winchester to Eastbourne on the South coast. We did it over 10 days
with an extra day in Lewes, the county town of East Sussex. Here's a
flavour with a picture from each day:
http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/SouthDownsWay1/PAD/

Cheers, Chris

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Re: New DA50/1.8 Plastic Mount

2012-05-23 Thread Charles Robinson
On May 23, 2012, at 9:18, Darren Addy wrote:
 
 If Pentax is making a mistake, it is in making the inexpensive line
 perform so well in the IQ department that the user feels no need to
 ever upgrade. I think enough people are happy with their 35mm f2.4,
 for example, that they don't feel the need to spend the extra for an
 f2.0, ever.
 

Ding ding!  We have a winnah!  I'm exactly one of those users.

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Re: PESO - Another Tree Swallow

2012-05-23 Thread Bob Sullivan
Frank,
That's an excellent bird shot.
I can live with the yellow patch,
but it does draw attention/contrast to the gray above and to the right.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 9:14 PM, frank theriault
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 I may like this tree swallow more than the one from a few days ago
 ~except~ for that bright yellow oof bit in the bottom left.  Do you
 think it's too much of a distraction, or can you live with it?  I'd be
 very curious to get the reaction of the list:

 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/05/another-tree-swallow.html

 Thanks in advance.  Hope you enjoy.

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Re: First PESO in a long while

2012-05-23 Thread Paul Stenquist
I like this very much. It's soothing.

We have a lot of the standard three-petal trillium in Michigan, it's our state 
flower and a protected species. But all that I've scene here, including quite a 
few in my yard, are pure white. This sample, which is obviously a close 
relative of trillium, is quite elegant.

Paul


On May 22, 2012, at 2:01 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

 Hiking in New Hapmshire (Mount Monadnock) a few days ago, we saw some
 fine painted Trilliums. Herre's the best photo of the lot: Hiking in
 New Hampshire a few days ago:
 http://www.robertstech.com/temp/index.htm
 
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Re: Rumor of a new intro Pentax Body

2012-05-23 Thread George Sinos
I saw no advantage to PEF and my Pentax cameras are all set to shoot
DNG.  I have a vague memory that there might have been a difference in
buffering between the two but I wasn't worried about it.

One of the minor annoyances of shooting with my non-Pentax cameras is
having to do the extra step of converting to DNG.

gs


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On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 9:00 AM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote:
 On May 22, 2012, at 13:59, John Sessoms wrote:

 Yeah, I could see it being in between K-3  K-z, but I just don't see it as 
 the K-5's successor.

 From the specs, the only RAW format it offers is DNG.

 K-5:  RAW (PEF, DNG), JPG (EXIF 2.21), DCF 2.0 compliant, DPOF, PIM III
 K-r:  RAW (PEF, DNG), JPG (EXIF 2.21), DCF 2.0, DPOF, Print Image Matching 
 III
 K-30: RAW (DNG), JPG (EXIF 2.3), DCF 2.0 compliant, DPOF, PIM III


 ..which brings to mind this question:  Why bother with the PEF RAW format at 
 all anymore?  Is there a single benefit?

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Re: Rumor of a new intro Pentax Body

2012-05-23 Thread Mark Roberts
Charles Robinson wrote:

On May 22, 2012, at 13:59, John Sessoms wrote:
 
 Yeah, I could see it being in between K-3  K-z, but I just don't see it as 
 the K-5's successor.
 
 From the specs, the only RAW format it offers is DNG.
 
 K-5:  RAW (PEF, DNG), JPG (EXIF 2.21), DCF 2.0 compliant, DPOF, PIM III
 K-r:  RAW (PEF, DNG), JPG (EXIF 2.21), DCF 2.0, DPOF, Print Image Matching 
 III
 K-30: RAW (DNG), JPG (EXIF 2.3), DCF 2.0 compliant, DPOF, PIM III
 

..which brings to mind this question:  Why bother with the PEF RAW format at 
all anymore?  Is there a single benefit?

Nope. It's gone and good riddance as far as I'm concerned.
 
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Re: OT: Word vertical image alignment

2012-05-23 Thread Paul Sorenson
Image alignment or text alignment or both?  Multiple images in one cell 
or one image per cell vertically.  Maybe you could post a screen shot of 
what you have along with some more specifics.


-p

On 5/23/2012 8:10 AM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote:

I need to vertically align a row of pics in a table cell.
But it won't work.  Text alignment with pics will work
horizontally but not vertically.


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Re: First PESO in a long while

2012-05-23 Thread Mark Roberts
Paul Stenquist wrote:

I like this very much. It's soothing.

We have a lot of the standard three-petal trillium in Michigan, it's our 
state flower and a protected species. But all that I've scene here, 
including quite a few in my yard, are pure white. This sample, which is 
obviously a close relative of trillium, is quite elegant.

I'm told that the four leaf quadrilliums are exactly the same
species as trilliums but are just individual mutants, like four-leaf
clovers. This is the second one I've ever seen, the first being on
Grandfather Mountain (where Jim Morton told me he found a five-petal
quintilium once!)

 
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PESO One more trillium

2012-05-23 Thread Paul Sorenson

From a foray into the wilds of Minnesota a couple weeks ago...

http://home.earthlink.net/~allaround6/images/IMGP1822.jpg

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Tokina AT-X 828 AF PRO 80-200mm f/2.8 question

2012-05-23 Thread Darren Addy
I've got my first pro lens in this range, but at first blush I'm not
very impressed with it.
I'm not sure if there is something wrong with it (it makes a noise
when I rotate it, which I don't think is Good).
Before I send it in for service, I'd like to try the front/back focus
adjustment. However, I'm not sure I understand the whole process yet
and whether the K-5 can remember this lens. Does anyone know if this
lens has a Lens ID that communicates with the body so the setting
can be remembered?

If doing the adjustment doesn't solve the problems, I'm going to have
to see what it will cost to get this thing serviced. I've read good
reports about this lens, and although it is heavy that's a property of
its construction and the big glass it contains to get you the constant
f2.8.

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Re: New DA50/1.8 Plastic Mount

2012-05-23 Thread Tim Bray
Or in my case the D-FA 100mm f2.8.  When I use it, the limiting factor
in the quality of the photos is so obviously me not the lens.

 -T

On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 7:28 AM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote:
 On May 23, 2012, at 9:18, Darren Addy wrote:

 If Pentax is making a mistake, it is in making the inexpensive line
 perform so well in the IQ department that the user feels no need to
 ever upgrade. I think enough people are happy with their 35mm f2.4,
 for example, that they don't feel the need to spend the extra for an
 f2.0, ever.


 Ding ding!  We have a winnah!  I'm exactly one of those users.

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Drop the rumor language

2012-05-23 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
http://pentaximaging.com/dslr/K-30_Black

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Re: New DA50/1.8 Plastic Mount

2012-05-23 Thread Tom C
 If Pentax is making a mistake, it is in making the inexpensive line
 perform so well in the IQ department that the user feels no need to
 ever upgrade. I think enough people are happy with their 35mm f2.4,
 for example, that they don't feel the need to spend the extra for an
 f2.0, ever.

Unless their lens mount wears out. ;-)

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Re: York PDML?

2012-05-23 Thread Scott Loveless
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 4:05 AM, Chris Mitchell
chris.mitch...@which.net wrote:
 On 20 May 2012 16:30, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Our travel plans are gradually turning from liquid phase to a gel, and we're 
 going to be in York (as in UK, not Pennsylvania!*) 16-17 June.  I'd love to 
 get together with some PDMLers, if any are available.


 Sadly I won't be able to make it. Have a good time without me...

I'm standing here on the corner of Market and State Rt. 74.  Been here
for hours.  Where the hell is everyone?

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Re: Peso Trilliums

2012-05-23 Thread Tim Bray
For those who aren’t students of the plant, the blossoms start out
white and then turn pink/violet; if you look closely at David’s second
shot, you can see the pink blush starting to set in.  -T

On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 8:03 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 Morning all.

 Went on a Trillium hunt last weekend and found a few places new to me:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15773892

 Purplish Trillium

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15773893

 Double white

 K-5, D FA 50 f2.8

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Re: New DA50/1.8 Plastic Mount

2012-05-23 Thread P. J. Alling
Lenses are a long term investment, at least they used to be, plastic on 
a bearing surface implies the opposite.   No matter what plasticizers 
are lost over time and the material becomes brittle and subject to 
cracking.  Eventually something important will break.  Heat will 
exacerbate this process.  If the lens was cheap enough to be disposable 
that would be fine but it's not really.


On 5/23/2012 10:02 AM, Charles Robinson wrote:

On May 23, 2012, at 8:25, Tom C wrote:


Come on Pentax! How else are you shaving costs?  Talk about making
yourself look cheap.


I have no complaints with the nice crisp images coming from my all-plastic DA 
35 f2.4.  It seems to be holding up quite well and frankly I don't give a rat's 
patootie what the mount is made of as long as it works.  And it does.

  -Charles

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Re: New DA50/1.8 Plastic Mount

2012-05-23 Thread Scott Loveless
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote:
 If Pentax is making a mistake, it is in making the inexpensive line
 perform so well in the IQ department that the user feels no need to
 ever upgrade. I think enough people are happy with their 35mm f2.4,
 for example, that they don't feel the need to spend the extra for an
 f2.0, ever.

 Unless their lens mount wears out. ;-)

At US$249, it's $50 more than the FA50/1.4 cost just 3 years ago.
Relatively speaking, with today's nincompoop-directed pricing scheme,
it's a veritable bargain.

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Re: PESO One more trillium

2012-05-23 Thread Jack Davis
Nice, Paul! Position of blossoms and well chosen background allow for a variety 
of crops
Also, like the exposure.

Jack


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Subject: PESO One more trillium

From a foray into the wilds of Minnesota a couple weeks ago...

http://home.earthlink.net/~allaround6/images/IMGP1822.jpg

Comments  critiques welcome

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PESO More Trillium

2012-05-23 Thread Paul Stenquist
It's trillium day on the PDML. Here's a patch in my yard. I moved two plants 
here that were endangered by a neat-freak neighbor armed with a rake a half 
dozen years ago or so. In this spot, they get a cover of several inches of 
leaves every winter, which trillium loves, and they've thrived. I have four 
groupings of this size or larger, up from just two little blooms twenty years 
ago.

Our white trillium do turn pink just before they expire, but I think the 
variety Mark showed displays color for all or much of its bloom time. 

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15774272size=lg
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Re: PESO One more trillium

2012-05-23 Thread Paul Stenquist
Nice shot. That's a variety I've never seen. Beautiful.
Paul
On May 23, 2012, at 11:52 AM, Paul Sorenson wrote:

 From a foray into the wilds of Minnesota a couple weeks ago...
 
 http://home.earthlink.net/~allaround6/images/IMGP1822.jpg
 
 Comments  critiques welcome
 
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Re: New DA50/1.8 Plastic Mount

2012-05-23 Thread Mark Roberts
Tom C wrote:

 If Pentax is making a mistake, it is in making the inexpensive line
 perform so well in the IQ department that the user feels no need to
 ever upgrade. I think enough people are happy with their 35mm f2.4,
 for example, that they don't feel the need to spend the extra for an
 f2.0, ever.

Unless their lens mount wears out. ;-)

See? It's a win-win situation!
 
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Re: PESO One more trillium

2012-05-23 Thread Mark Roberts
Paul Sorenson wrote:

 From a foray into the wilds of Minnesota a couple weeks ago...

http://home.earthlink.net/~allaround6/images/IMGP1822.jpg

Lovely! That's a variety called Wake Robin by the way. The one I
showed is a Painted Trillium.
 
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Re: New DA50/1.8 Plastic Mount

2012-05-23 Thread steve harley

on 2012-05-23 10:03 Tim Bray wrote

Or in my case the D-FA 100mm f2.8.  When I use it, the limiting factor
in the quality of the photos is so obviously me not the lens.


i feel like i'm missing a subtle point — that lens is not in the same class as 
the ones in discussion



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Re: New DA50/1.8 Plastic Mount

2012-05-23 Thread steve harley

on 2012-05-23 7:34 Kenton Brede wrote

If optically the lens is above average to superb, looks like a good
value to me, given the price.  Those who want higher quality and spend
more can opt for the DA * 55mm.


at least superficially it appears to be similar optical formula to the 50/1.7 
series — anyone know more?


since the A 50/1.7 and siblings are compact and excellent lenses in fairly good 
supply, it is interesting to see Pentax positioning lenses as if there is no 
used market, while at the same time the K-mount and legacy glass are one of the 
brand's strengths


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Re: OT: Word vertical image alignment

2012-05-23 Thread steve harley

on 2012-05-23 7:10 Collin Brendemuehl wrote

I need to vertically align a row of pics in a table cell.
But it won't work.  Text alignment with pics will work
horizontally but not vertically.


a row of pics in a single cell, or one per cell? the latter would probably give 
you more control


i was good at this once, but i don't use Word any more; generally you have to 
fuss with it a lot to get precision in Word; possibly look at the cropping and 
runaround settings (whatever MS calls these)


as a last resort you could also try importing it into LibreOffice or 
OpenOffice, which are also quite fussy, but might be different enough to solve 
the problem; i have created very precise templates with graphics in OpenOffice


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Re: K-30 vs K-5

2012-05-23 Thread steve harley

on 2012-05-23 8:15 Rick Womer wrote

The difference in detail between the 12 and 14-bit images is far from minimal.


- Original Message -
From: David Parsonsparsons.da...@gmail.com

In practice the difference is minimal.

http://www.earthboundlight.com/phototips/nikon-d300-d3-14-bit-versus-12-bit.html


i concur with Rick – the link you sent, David, shows the highlights to be 
similar, but there's a very substantial difference in the shadow detail; that 
would mean a lot to me in practical terms


of course it's not the same system, but the dxomark ratings and anecdotal 
evidence seem to support the same conclusion for the Sony sensor used by Pentax



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Re: First PESO in a long while

2012-05-23 Thread steve harley

on 2012-05-22 21:22 Mark Roberts wrote

2 -  Bloody 'ell, I *just* now noticed that this isn't a trillium -
it's a quadrillium (a mutant with four petals and four leaves)! I
didn't notice while I was shooting it and I've been looking at the
photo without noticing for days. I've only ever seen one before and
that was on Grandfather Mountain a few years ago.


um, that was so obvious i was going to ask WTF?

it is a lucky photo, and a sweet composition

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Re: York PDML?

2012-05-23 Thread Rick Womer
Just keep standing there, Scott--you're only a month early. Face northwest and 
we'll be about 3000 miles to your right.
 
Rick

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Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: York PDML?

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 4:05 AM, Chris Mitchell
chris.mitch...@which.net wrote:
 On 20 May 2012 16:30, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Our travel plans are gradually turning from liquid phase to a gel, and we're 
 going to be in York (as in UK, not Pennsylvania!*) 16-17 June.  I'd love to 
 get together with some PDMLers, if any are available.


 Sadly I won't be able to make it. Have a good time without me...

I'm standing here on the corner of Market and State Rt. 74.  Been here
for hours.  Where the hell is everyone?

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Re: GESO: South Downs Way

2012-05-23 Thread Chris Mitchell
On 21 May 2012 15:29, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote:
 Fantastic look of England!  Love Ipg1000--beautiful, but the entire gallery 
 is great!  Cheers, Christine

Thanks Christine.

That bit of the coast is spectacular and it's really surprising, in
this health and safety paranoid world, that there are no barriers or
fences at the edge. At the highest point there's a 650ft sheer drop
into the English Channel and dog walkers and school parties are
happily walking along the edge. They seem lose very few each year. But
it is a favourite place for suicides though...

Karin hates heights so she walked as far away from the edge as she
could and I didn't really manage to sneak as close as I'd liked to get
more dramatic shots without getting her bothered. Oh well, I'll have
to go back on my own one day.

Cheers, Chris


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 Hi all - I've been a bit quiet lately owing to being in the wilds of
 Hampshire and Sussex. Lots to catch up on by the looks of it.

 Karin and I walked the South Downs Way, a 100 mile footpath from
 Winchester to Eastbourne on the South coast. We did it over 10 days
 with an extra day in Lewes, the county town of East Sussex. Here's a
 flavour with a picture from each day:
 http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/SouthDownsWay1/PAD/

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Re: nanda devi/ milam glacier trek photos

2012-05-23 Thread Chris Mitchell
On 23 May 2012 02:33, Subash pdml.l...@gmail.com wrote:
 hi,

 a large gallery, but hopefully the thumbnail view would let you see
 what you want to see:

 https://picasaweb.google.com/117979942681874882460/Nandadevi

 do let me know what you like and what you don't

 thanks, subash


Excellent gallery Subash. While the landscapes are spectacular, like
Frank says, it's the people shots that do it for me. You've really
caught their characters.

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Re: OT: Word vertical image alignment

2012-05-23 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
Screen cap of the issue

http://www.flickr.com/photos/55001392@N08/7256805322/in/photostream


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Re: GESO: South Downs Way

2012-05-23 Thread P. J. Alling
I swear that someday there will be decaying fences around every hazard 
in nature.  No one will bother to maintain them because no one will 
visit a site hazardous enough to need to be fenced.


On 5/23/2012 1:30 PM, Chris Mitchell wrote:

On 21 May 2012 15:29, Christine Aguilachrist...@caguila.com  wrote:

Fantastic look of England!  Love Ipg1000--beautiful, but the entire gallery is 
great!  Cheers, Christine

Thanks Christine.

That bit of the coast is spectacular and it's really surprising, in
this health and safety paranoid world, that there are no barriers or
fences at the edge. At the highest point there's a 650ft sheer drop
into the English Channel and dog walkers and school parties are
happily walking along the edge. They seem lose very few each year. But
it is a favourite place for suicides though...

Karin hates heights so she walked as far away from the edge as she
could and I didn't really manage to sneak as close as I'd liked to get
more dramatic shots without getting her bothered. Oh well, I'll have
to go back on my own one day.

Cheers, Chris


On May 21, 2012, at 1:09 AM, Chris Mitchell wrote:


Hi all - I've been a bit quiet lately owing to being in the wilds of
Hampshire and Sussex. Lots to catch up on by the looks of it.

Karin and I walked the South Downs Way, a 100 mile footpath from
Winchester to Eastbourne on the South coast. We did it over 10 days
with an extra day in Lewes, the county town of East Sussex. Here's a
flavour with a picture from each day:
http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/SouthDownsWay1/PAD/

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Re: PESO One more trillium

2012-05-23 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Nice!  Wonderful color on this specimen.
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On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Paul Sorenson pentax1...@gmail.com wrote:
 From a foray into the wilds of Minnesota a couple weeks ago...

 http://home.earthlink.net/~allaround6/images/IMGP1822.jpg

 Comments  critiques welcome

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Re: Peso Trilliums

2012-05-23 Thread David J Brooks
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote:
 For those who aren’t students of the plant, the blossoms start out
 white and then turn pink/violet; if you look closely at David’s second
 shot, you can see the pink blush starting to set in.  -T

I did not know that.

Dave

 On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 8:03 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 Morning all.

 Went on a Trillium hunt last weekend and found a few places new to me:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15773892

 Purplish Trillium

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15773893

 Double white

 K-5, D FA 50 f2.8

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Re: PESO One more trillium

2012-05-23 Thread David J Brooks
Both trillium shots are great, such detail

Dave

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Re: Boris PESO #12 - Morning sparring

2012-05-23 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
That is a wonderful capture and a strong compostion.
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On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 4:40 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Boris, I like it, but wish the animals were more prominent.  What about 
 cropping out the bottom 1/6, the left 1/3, and a bit off the top; then 
 playing with the curves to boost the contrast?

 Cheers,

 Rick

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 Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 1:11 PM
 Subject: Boris PESO #12 - Morning sparring

 We're back from a weekend spent with my former classmate from Moscow at Ein 
 Gedi which is just by the Dead Sea.

 Here is a PESO:

 http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2012/05/peso-2012-19-morning-sparring.html

 Be brutal and honest and usual.

 Thanks in advance.

 Boris

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Re: PESO - Nesting by the Yacht Club

2012-05-23 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Nice image.  I like the abstract feeling caused by the ripple
disruption of the reflections.
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On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote:
 Not quite right Frank, the reflections make it an outstanding picture!


 Message: 11
 Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 21:09:33 -0400
 From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com
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 Subject: PESO - Nesting by the Yacht Club
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 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

 This redneck grebe's nest is near the Lakeshore Yacht Club.  I thought
 the reflections of the masts made for an interesting picture:

 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/05/nesting-by-yacht-club.html

 Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

 cheers,
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Re: PESO- The eclipse from this side of the world.

2012-05-23 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Excellent image!
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On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:50 PM, Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com wrote:
 No, not the total eclipse...not in the Philippines anyway.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/7237033626/

 But we did get a partial during sunrise--not willing to gamble a road
 trip to find a good vantage point (the weather is transitioning from
 dry to wet) I settled for a pedestrian footbridge near my house.
 There was a haze so the sun did not really appear until well above 5
 degrees above the horizon missing landmarks which I could have used as
 a foreground.

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Re: peso: sunrise at nanda devi

2012-05-23 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
What a spectacular mountain!  Well captured and composed as well.
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On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 11:00 PM, Subash pdml.l...@gmail.com wrote:
 hi,

 back from a ten-day, 150 km trek in the himalayas. one of the
 main destinations was the nanda devi east base camp (nanda devi,
 meaning 'bliss-giving goddess, is a two-peaked massif, connected by a
 2km long ridge, the second highest mountain in the Indian himalayas. The
 west summit is higher at 25, 643 ft while the eastern summit is 24, 390
 ft).

 it was a tough trek, of the six of us, only three made it to the nanda
 devi east base camp (13,800 ft). when we reached the camp, it was all
 white-washed out with fog. i even experienced the first snowfall of my
 life which lasted for about half an hour :). but the next day dawned
 bright and clear so we could get great views of the peaks at sunrise.
 two shots of the peaks from the morning, one at sunrise and another a
 little later (we were just about a km from the base of the mountain).
 the one to the right is the main, higher summit...

 https://picasaweb.google.com/117979942681874882460/Nandadevi?authkey=Gv1sRgCKKmiJqe9rjrbQ#5745182527882554850

 https://picasaweb.google.com/117979942681874882460/Nandadevi?authkey=Gv1sRgCKKmiJqe9rjrbQ#5745182534638203106

 i will be putting together a GESO a little later, meanwhile hope you
 enjoy these...


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Re: nanda devi/ milam glacier trek photos

2012-05-23 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
What a grand adventure!  Your images are inspiring.
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On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 9:33 PM, Subash pdml.l...@gmail.com wrote:
 hi,

 a large gallery, but hopefully the thumbnail view would let you see
 what you want to see:

 https://picasaweb.google.com/117979942681874882460/Nandadevi

 do let me know what you like and what you don't

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Re: PESO - Another Tree Swallow

2012-05-23 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
That's a very strong image.  The yellow patch doesn't bother me,
because of its placement.  If it had been more in the center of the
frame, or near or behind the head, it would probably distract a lot
more, but her is works.
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 I may like this tree swallow more than the one from a few days ago
 ~except~ for that bright yellow oof bit in the bottom left.  Do you
 think it's too much of a distraction, or can you live with it?  I'd be
 very curious to get the reaction of the list:

 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/05/another-tree-swallow.html

 Thanks in advance.  Hope you enjoy.

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Semi-OT: Sticky keys function on a Mac - PSE9

2012-05-23 Thread John Sessoms
I have a friend who recently got Photoshop Elements 9 for her MacBook. I 
was showing her a couple of things about layers  adjustments when we 
got to how to put a signature  copyright notice on a photo.


I showed her how to create a text layer, but I couldn't type any text. 
Instead, the letter keys all acted like I was continuously holding down 
the command key. If I typed the letter 't', it created a new text layer; 
if I typed the letter 'n' it created a new layer ... letter 'x' caused 
the foreground  background colors to switch. Every key was activating 
its keyboard shortcut (if it had one)


I know that Windoze has sticky keys as part of its accessibility 
options and that the sticky keys can be set to toggle on/off using a 
shortcut.


Does Mac have such a sticky key function, and if so, how do you toggle 
it on/off?


It seems like it might be something the MacBook itself was doing, 
because she was having trouble entering text in other programs, 
specifically iPhoto  MS Word (she tried to type the text in Word, then 
cut  paste it into iPhoto - without success).


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Re: New DA50/1.8 Plastic Mount

2012-05-23 Thread John Sessoms

From: Darren Addy


While I agree that the DA L lenses smack of cheapness, I also think
that is the point.


They should be inexpensive rather than cheap. To me cheap == 
tawdry, trashy, chintzy ...


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Re: Semi-OT: Sticky keys function on a Mac - PSE9

2012-05-23 Thread Jeffery Smith
My Mac keyboard had sticky keys, but only because I had dropped so many food 
crumbs in it. I finally just bought a new keyboard. If you hold it upside down 
and shake it, you would be amazed by w comes out.

Jeffery

On May 23, 2012, at 1:24 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

 I have a friend who recently got Photoshop Elements 9 for her MacBook. I was 
 showing her a couple of things about layers  adjustments when we got to how 
 to put a signature  copyright notice on a photo.
 
 I showed her how to create a text layer, but I couldn't type any text. 
 Instead, the letter keys all acted like I was continuously holding down the 
 command key. If I typed the letter 't', it created a new text layer; if I 
 typed the letter 'n' it created a new layer ... letter 'x' caused the 
 foreground  background colors to switch. Every key was activating its 
 keyboard shortcut (if it had one)
 
 I know that Windoze has sticky keys as part of its accessibility options 
 and that the sticky keys can be set to toggle on/off using a shortcut.
 
 Does Mac have such a sticky key function, and if so, how do you toggle it 
 on/off?
 
 It seems like it might be something the MacBook itself was doing, because she 
 was having trouble entering text in other programs, specifically iPhoto  MS 
 Word (she tried to type the text in Word, then cut  paste it into iPhoto - 
 without success).
 
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Re: PESO One more trillium

2012-05-23 Thread Jack Davis
Trillium sounds like a previously unknown mineral discovered in a meteorite.

Jack

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Subject: Re: PESO One more trillium

Paul Sorenson wrote:

 From a foray into the wilds of Minnesota a couple weeks ago...

http://home.earthlink.net/~allaround6/images/IMGP1822.jpg

Lovely! That's a variety called Wake Robin by the way. The one I
showed is a Painted Trillium.

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Re: OT: Word vertical image alignment

2012-05-23 Thread steve harley

on 2012-05-23 11:35 Collin Brendemuehl wrote

Screen cap of the issue

http://www.flickr.com/photos/55001392@N08/7256805322/in/photostream


are you trying to align the centers? that will be pretty twitchy in Word 
because it isn't perfectly wysiwyg (i wouldn't necessarily put them in a table 
cell, i'd use a graphic box)


don't know what tools you have, but i would probably composite them as one 
image with Photoshop or use a more precise graphics app (e.g. Illustrator or 
InDesign)


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Re: Semi-OT: Sticky keys function on a Mac - PSE9

2012-05-23 Thread Charles Robinson
On May 23, 2012, at 13:24, John Sessoms wrote:
 
 I know that Windoze has sticky keys as part of its accessibility options 
 and that the sticky keys can be set to toggle on/off using a shortcut.
 
 Does Mac have such a sticky key function, and if so, how do you toggle it 
 on/off?
 

Access 'System Preferences' by clicking in the Apple in the upper-left-hand 
corner and select 'System Preferences' from the drop-down menu.

If you look under Universal Access, there is a keyboard tab.

Sticky keys can be toggled on and off there.  There is also the option to 
allow the option itself to be toggled by striking the 'shift' key 5 times in 
sequence.

If it's not enabled there, then the issue might be that the command key is 
PHYSICALLY stuck (as opposed to logically) and you might have to lift up on it, 
or smack the key a few times to get it to clear.

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Re: OT: Word vertical image alignment

2012-05-23 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
Steve,

I'm giving Visio a serious look for improved layout.
It is my favorite piece of M$ software -- especially
since M$ didn't create it in the first place.

Sincerely, 

Collin Brendemuehl 
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Re: GESO: South Downs Way

2012-05-23 Thread Christine Aguila
Karin and I have something in common.  I always get tummy-flutters at heights.  
Cheers, Christine




On May 23, 2012, at 12:30 PM, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote:

 On 21 May 2012 15:29, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote:
 Fantastic look of England!  Love Ipg1000--beautiful, but the entire gallery 
 is great!  Cheers, Christine
 
 Thanks Christine.
 
 That bit of the coast is spectacular and it's really surprising, in
 this health and safety paranoid world, that there are no barriers or
 fences at the edge. At the highest point there's a 650ft sheer drop
 into the English Channel and dog walkers and school parties are
 happily walking along the edge. They seem lose very few each year. But
 it is a favourite place for suicides though...
 
 Karin hates heights so she walked as far away from the edge as she
 could and I didn't really manage to sneak as close as I'd liked to get
 more dramatic shots without getting her bothered. Oh well, I'll have
 to go back on my own one day.
 
 Cheers, Chris
 
 
 On May 21, 2012, at 1:09 AM, Chris Mitchell wrote:
 
 Hi all - I've been a bit quiet lately owing to being in the wilds of
 Hampshire and Sussex. Lots to catch up on by the looks of it.
 
 Karin and I walked the South Downs Way, a 100 mile footpath from
 Winchester to Eastbourne on the South coast. We did it over 10 days
 with an extra day in Lewes, the county town of East Sussex. Here's a
 flavour with a picture from each day:
 http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/SouthDownsWay1/PAD/
 
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Re: OT: Word vertical image alignment

2012-05-23 Thread steve harley

on 2012-05-23 13:32 Collin Brendemuehl wrote

Steve,

I'm giving Visio a serious look for improved layout.
It is my favorite piece of M$ software -- especially
since M$ didn't create it in the first place.


Viso's a good choice, i should have mentioned it; i often use the comparable 
OmniGraffle on OS X for lightweight, presentation-oriented graphics



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RE: Tokina AT-X 828 AF PRO 80-200mm f/2.8 question

2012-05-23 Thread John Sessoms

From: Darren Addy


I've got my first pro lens in this range, but at first blush I'm not
very impressed with it.
I'm not sure if there is something wrong with it (it makes a noise
when I rotate it, which I don't think is Good).
Before I send it in for service, I'd like to try the front/back focus
adjustment. However, I'm not sure I understand the whole process yet
and whether the K-5 can remember this lens. Does anyone know if this
lens has a Lens ID that communicates with the body so the setting
can be remembered?

If doing the adjustment doesn't solve the problems, I'm going to have
to see what it will cost to get this thing serviced. I've read good
reports about this lens, and although it is heavy that's a property of
its construction and the big glass it contains to get you the constant
f2.8.


I presume when you say it makes a noise when I rotate it, that you 
mean when you rotate the zoom ring?


It shouldn't make any noise. It's a really sturdy, pro-quality build lens.

It shows up in Photoshop as a smc PENTAX-F 35-105mm F4-5.6.

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OT: Sometimes computers just make me crazy.

2012-05-23 Thread John Sessoms
For some reason, my computers in the other room can't map my NAS. I 
currently have 3 computers networked. I have a Cable modem attached to a 
4 port router.


Attached to the router are this computer, the NAS, my big network laser 
printer and a cable going to a 4-port ethernet hub in the other room. 
Connected to that hub are my laptop  my PhotoShop computer.


This computer has the NAS mapped. I can access everything on the NAS 
from this computer.


The two computers in the other room are both connected. I can get to the 
internet from them. I can print to the network laser printer. I had the 
NAS mapped as network drives on both of the computers in the other room, 
but a few minutes ago I found both of them showing the network drive 
disconnected.


And now when I try to reconnect, both computers are giving me network 
path not found errors when I try to map the drive. I've used the 
disconnect command from Windoze. I've used the net use /delete command 
from a command prompt  I've rebooted both computers, but they still 
won't connect to the NAS.


I know I'll figure it out eventually, but in the meantime, my tenuous 
grip on sanity is fraying.


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Re: New DA50/1.8 Plastic Mount

2012-05-23 Thread John Sessoms

From: Scott Loveless


On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote:

If Pentax is making a mistake, it is in making the inexpensive line
perform so well in the IQ department that the user feels no need to
ever upgrade. I think enough people are happy with their 35mm f2.4,
for example, that they don't feel the need to spend the extra for an
f2.0, ever.

Unless their lens mount wears out. ;-)


At US$249, it's $50 more than the FA50/1.4 cost just 3 years ago.
Relatively speaking, with today's nincompoop-directed pricing scheme,
it's a veritable bargain.


For about the same price you can get a FA50/1.7; $50 more you could get 
the FA50/1.4


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Re: OT: Word vertical image alignment

2012-05-23 Thread Paul Sorenson
For projects like this, I've found MS Publisher works much better/easier 
than word.


-p

On 5/23/2012 12:35 PM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote:

Screen cap of the issue

http://www.flickr.com/photos/55001392@N08/7256805322/in/photostream


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OT: iMaj

2012-05-23 Thread Bob W
For the Mac fans:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18171093

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Re: Semi-OT: Sticky keys function on a Mac - PSE9

2012-05-23 Thread John Sessoms

From: Charles Robinson


On May 23, 2012, at 13:24, John Sessoms wrote:

I know that Windoze has sticky keys as part of its accessibility options and that the 
sticky keys can be set to toggle on/off using a shortcut.

Does Mac have such a sticky key function, and if so, how do you toggle it 
on/off?


Access 'System Preferences' by clicking in the Apple in the upper-left-hand 
corner and select 'System Preferences' from the drop-down menu.

If you look under Universal Access, there is a keyboard tab.

Sticky keys can be toggled on and off there.  There is also the option to 
allow the option itself to be toggled by striking the 'shift' key 5 times in sequence.

If it's not enabled there, then the issue might be that the command key is 
PHYSICALLY stuck (as opposed to logically) and you might have to lift up on it, 
or smack the key a few times to get it to clear.

 -Charles


It was working fine while I was showing her how to use keyboard shortcuts

I'd already suggested she take it to the Apple store and have them look 
at it. I told her to e-mail me later today  I'd give her what answer I 
could come up with in the meantime.


This might help. Thanks.


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Re: PESO One more trillium

2012-05-23 Thread kwaller

Very nice capture ! Great light.

I'd never seen one that color.

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- Original Message - 
From: Paul Sorenson pentax1...@gmail.com

Subject: PESO One more trillium



From a foray into the wilds of Minnesota a couple weeks ago...

http://home.earthlink.net/~allaround6/images/IMGP1822.jpg

Comments  critiques welcome

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Re: OT: Word vertical image alignment

2012-05-23 Thread John Francis
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 07:32:21PM +, Collin Brendemuehl wrote:
 Steve,
 
 I'm giving Visio a serious look for improved layout.
 It is my favorite piece of M$ software -- especially
 since M$ didn't create it in the first place.

+1

I've been a Visio user since it was first released (my first
project was creating neater versions of all my old hand-drawn
maps for ADVENT, Zork, etc.) It's still my tool of choice for
a lot of things (most recently table tent cards for my wife
and I at the RPG con we're going to this weekend, incorporating
some artwork, details of the characters, and the images of the
minitatures I mentioned in the K-5  extension tube thread).


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Re: PESO - Another Tree Swallow

2012-05-23 Thread kwaller
A decent capture knarF, I especially like the background but the yellow blob 
places it in the snap shot category - without the blob it would have more of 
a crafted feel to it - where the image was studied and adjustments made 
prior to the tapping of the shutter.


YMMV

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- Original Message - 
From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com

Subject: Re: PESO - Another Tree Swallow



That's a very strong image.  The yellow patch doesn't bother me,
because of its placement.  If it had been more in the center of the
frame, or near or behind the head, it would probably distract a lot
more, but her is works.
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 10:14 PM, frank theriault
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

I may like this tree swallow more than the one from a few days ago
~except~ for that bright yellow oof bit in the bottom left. Do you
think it's too much of a distraction, or can you live with it? I'd be
very curious to get the reaction of the list:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/05/another-tree-swallow.html

Thanks in advance. Hope you enjoy.

cheers,
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Re: New DA50/1.8 Plastic Mount

2012-05-23 Thread David Parsons
Plastic is good enough to be used in hips and knees.  I'm sure that a
lens mount will hold up fine.

On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 12:20 PM, P. J. Alling
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 Lenses are a long term investment, at least they used to be, plastic on a
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 over time and the material becomes brittle and subject to cracking.
  Eventually something important will break.  Heat will exacerbate this
 process.  If the lens was cheap enough to be disposable that would be fine
 but it's not really.


 On 5/23/2012 10:02 AM, Charles Robinson wrote:

 On May 23, 2012, at 8:25, Tom C wrote:

 Come on Pentax! How else are you shaving costs?  Talk about making
 yourself look cheap.

 I have no complaints with the nice crisp images coming from my all-plastic
 DA 35 f2.4.  It seems to be holding up quite well and frankly I don't give a
 rat's patootie what the mount is made of as long as it works.  And it does.

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Re: OT: Word vertical image alignment

2012-05-23 Thread steve harley

on 2012-05-23 14:41 John Francis wrote

I've been a Visio user since it was first released (my first
project was creating neater versions of all my old hand-drawn
maps for ADVENT, Zork, etc.)


i used to draw such maps in ASCII on a DEC-20

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Re: OT: Sometimes computers just make me crazy.

2012-05-23 Thread Charles Robinson
On May 23, 2012, at 14:58, John Sessoms wrote:
 
 And now when I try to reconnect, both computers are giving me network path 
 not found errors when I try to map the drive. I've used the disconnect 
 command from Windoze. I've used the net use /delete command from a command 
 prompt  I've rebooted both computers, but they still won't connect to the 
 NAS.
 
 I know I'll figure it out eventually, but in the meantime, my tenuous grip on 
 sanity is fraying.
 

First thing to try: 

1. Take the cable out of the 4-port hub (please tell me it's a switch, hubs 
are so 1990's)
2. Plug that cable DIRECTLY into either your laptop or Photoshop PC and see if 
the behavior is different.

Most likely you'll find (since it's what they have in common) that the problem 
is/was with that 4-port hub.

If you STILL experience issues:

3. Take the laptop into the room with the 4-port router.  Disconnect the cable 
that runs to the hub and plug the laptop straight into THAT port.  

Let us know if anything is different with any of those connections.  Hope this 
helps.

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Re: OT: Sometimes computers just make me crazy.

2012-05-23 Thread Darren Addy
First thing I would try is to reboot the router.
Unplug the power cord on it for 30 seconds  plug it back in.

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RE: OT: Word vertical image alignment

2012-05-23 Thread Bob W
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 steve harley
 
 on 2012-05-23 14:41 John Francis wrote
  I've been a Visio user since it was first released (my first project
  was creating neater versions of all my old hand-drawn maps for
 ADVENT,
  Zork, etc.)
 
 i used to draw such maps in ASCII on a DEC-20
 

I can still use a pencil

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Re: OT: Word vertical image alignment

2012-05-23 Thread John Francis
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 03:37:33PM -0600, steve harley wrote:
 on 2012-05-23 14:41 John Francis wrote
 I've been a Visio user since it was first released (my first
 project was creating neater versions of all my old hand-drawn
 maps for ADVENT, Zork, etc.)
 
 i used to draw such maps in ASCII on a DEC-20

I used my flowcharting stencil and sheets from a desk pad.


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Re: PESO - Another Tree Swallow

2012-05-23 Thread Ann Sanfedele

I like it better than the other... except on my monitor the white breast
of the swallow is blown out - which is weird, because my monitor tends 
to be dark.


don't mind the yellow - I think it is a bit more interesting than the 
first one - like the non yellow bokeh a lot


ann

On 5/23/2012 16:54, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:

A decent capture knarF, I especially like the background but the yellow
blob places it in the snap shot category - without the blob it would
have more of a crafted feel to it - where the image was studied and
adjustments made prior to the tapping of the shutter.

YMMV

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - From: Daniel J. Matyola
danmaty...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: PESO - Another Tree Swallow



That's a very strong image. The yellow patch doesn't bother me,
because of its placement. If it had been more in the center of the
frame, or near or behind the head, it would probably distract a lot
more, but her is works.
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 10:14 PM, frank theriault
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

I may like this tree swallow more than the one from a few days ago
~except~ for that bright yellow oof bit in the bottom left. Do you
think it's too much of a distraction, or can you live with it? I'd be
very curious to get the reaction of the list:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/05/another-tree-swallow.html

Thanks in advance. Hope you enjoy.

cheers,
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Re: New DA50/1.8 Plastic Mount

2012-05-23 Thread Kenneth Waller
There's plastic and then there's plastic.

A good engineering plastic is a far cry from the everyday toy plastic that most 
are familiar with.



-Original Message-
From: David Parsons parsons.da...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: New DA50/1.8 Plastic Mount

Plastic is good enough to be used in hips and knees.  I'm sure that a
lens mount will hold up fine.

On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 12:20 PM, P. J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 Lenses are a long term investment, at least they used to be, plastic on a
 bearing surface implies the opposite.   No matter what plasticizers are lost
 over time and the material becomes brittle and subject to cracking.
  Eventually something important will break.  Heat will exacerbate this
 process.  If the lens was cheap enough to be disposable that would be fine
 but it's not really.


 On 5/23/2012 10:02 AM, Charles Robinson wrote:

 On May 23, 2012, at 8:25, Tom C wrote:

 Come on Pentax! How else are you shaving costs?  Talk about making
 yourself look cheap.

 I have no complaints with the nice crisp images coming from my all-plastic
 DA 35 f2.4.  It seems to be holding up quite well and frankly I don't give a
 rat's patootie what the mount is made of as long as it works.  And it does.

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Re: OT: iMaj

2012-05-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
And the iPod fans. And the iPad fans. And the iPhone fans. And ...
Apple's Jonny Ive does a lot more than just the Mac. ;-)

On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 For the Mac fans:

 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18171093

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OT: Word vertical image alignment

2012-05-23 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
I showed Visio to my manager and he loves it.
As before, I have used it since before M$ owned it.
(But I never played Zork though I did cut my teeth on CP/M and Apple ][ 
hardware.)
Now to get a couple of copies for the office ...

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Re: New DA50/1.8 Plastic Mount

2012-05-23 Thread Jeffery Smith
Like the stock of a Glock pistol? Or a football helmet? 

On May 23, 2012, at 5:47 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote:

 There's plastic and then there's plastic.
 
 A good engineering plastic is a far cry from the everyday toy plastic that 
 most are familiar with.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: David Parsons parsons.da...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: New DA50/1.8 Plastic Mount
 
 Plastic is good enough to be used in hips and knees.  I'm sure that a
 lens mount will hold up fine.
 
 On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 12:20 PM, P. J. Alling
 webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 Lenses are a long term investment, at least they used to be, plastic on a
 bearing surface implies the opposite.   No matter what plasticizers are lost
 over time and the material becomes brittle and subject to cracking.
  Eventually something important will break.  Heat will exacerbate this
 process.  If the lens was cheap enough to be disposable that would be fine
 but it's not really.
 
 
 On 5/23/2012 10:02 AM, Charles Robinson wrote:
 
 On May 23, 2012, at 8:25, Tom C wrote:
 
 Come on Pentax! How else are you shaving costs?  Talk about making
 yourself look cheap.
 
 I have no complaints with the nice crisp images coming from my all-plastic
 DA 35 f2.4.  It seems to be holding up quite well and frankly I don't give 
 a
 rat's patootie what the mount is made of as long as it works.  And it does.
 
  -Charles
 
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Re: First PESO in a long while

2012-05-23 Thread Mark C

On 5/22/2012 2:01 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Hiking in New Hapmshire (Mount Monadnock) a few days ago, we saw some
fine painted Trilliums. Herre's the best photo of the lot: Hiking in
New Hampshire a few days ago:
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/index.htm

(Getting ready for nature photography at GFM)

Very nice, Mark -well composed and tack sharp,  the ferns at the top 
give it a nice sense of setting.


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Re: First PESO in a long while

2012-05-23 Thread Mark C

On 5/22/2012 11:08 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

Beautiful!

But I thought trilliums have three petals? Is this an anomaly or does this 
particular species have four?

No matter, it's gorgeous!



Quadrillium - sort of like a four leaf clover...

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Re: PESO More Trillium

2012-05-23 Thread Bob Sullivan
Paul,
Very nice to have those and a good capture of the group.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Paul Stenquist
pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 It's trillium day on the PDML. Here's a patch in my yard. I moved two plants 
 here that were endangered by a neat-freak neighbor armed with a rake a half 
 dozen years ago or so. In this spot, they get a cover of several inches of 
 leaves every winter, which trillium loves, and they've thrived. I have four 
 groupings of this size or larger, up from just two little blooms twenty years 
 ago.

 Our white trillium do turn pink just before they expire, but I think the 
 variety Mark showed displays color for all or much of its bloom time.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15774272size=lg
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Re: New DA50/1.8 Plastic Mount

2012-05-23 Thread James King
P. J. Alling wrote on Wed, 23 May 2012 09:20:38 -0700

 Lenses are a long term investment, at least they used to be, plastic on a 
 bearing surface implies the opposite. No matter what plasticizers are lost 
 over time and the material becomes brittle and subject to cracking. 
 Eventually something important will break. Heat will exacerbate this process. 
 If the lens was cheap enough to be disposablethat would be fine but it's not 
 really.

It ain't neccesarily so!  I'm confident that the Pentax plastic lens mount is 
made of a modern engineering plastic; these are heat-resistant, often 
self-lubricating, and do not contain volatile/migratory plasticizers.  Unless 
subjected to severe mechanical stress it's likely that they will outlive the 
user…

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Re: Peso Trilliums

2012-05-23 Thread Bob Sullivan
Dave,
Those are nice.  My Mother loved Trillium,
but we never had any in the yard.
When I see those, I think of her.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 10:03 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 Morning all.

 Went on a Trillium hunt last weekend and found a few places new to me:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15773892

 Purplish Trillium

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15773893

 Double white

 K-5, D FA 50 f2.8

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Re: nanda devi/ milam glacier trek photos

2012-05-23 Thread Bob Sullivan
Subash,
I have to agree with Dan, very inspiring.
This could be a National Geographic photo spread.
Regards,  Bob S.

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 What a grand adventure!  Your images are inspiring.
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 hi,

 a large gallery, but hopefully the thumbnail view would let you see
 what you want to see:

 https://picasaweb.google.com/117979942681874882460/Nandadevi

 do let me know what you like and what you don't

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Re: OT: iMaj

2012-05-23 Thread Stan Halpin
It would be nice if a certain photographic equipment company with which we are 
all familiar would attend to the following principle:
Sir Jonathan said Apple products were tools 'and we don't want design to get 
in the way'.

stan

On May 23, 2012, at 4:12 PM, Bob W wrote:

 For the Mac fans:
 
 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18171093
 
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Re: PESO One more trillium

2012-05-23 Thread Bob Sullivan
Paul,
That's very nice and my Mom's favorite color Trillium.
A wonderful specimen shot.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Paul Sorenson pentax1...@gmail.com wrote:
 From a foray into the wilds of Minnesota a couple weeks ago...

 http://home.earthlink.net/~allaround6/images/IMGP1822.jpg

 Comments  critiques welcome

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Re: New DA50/1.8 Plastic Mount

2012-05-23 Thread Larry Colen

On May 23, 2012, at 5:48 PM, James King wrote:

 P. J. Alling wrote on Wed, 23 May 2012 09:20:38 -0700
 
 Lenses are a long term investment, at least they used to be, plastic on a 
 bearing surface implies the opposite. No matter what plasticizers are lost 
 over time and the material becomes brittle and subject to cracking. 
 Eventually something important will break. Heat will exacerbate this 
 process. If the lens was cheap enough to be disposablethat would be fine but 
 it's not really.
 
 It ain't neccesarily so!  I'm confident that the Pentax plastic lens mount is 
 made of a modern engineering plastic; these are heat-resistant, often 
 self-lubricating, and do not contain volatile/migratory plasticizers.  Unless 
 subjected to severe mechanical stress it's likely that they will outlive the 
 user…

Also possibly better at vibration dampening than metal mounts.


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Re: PESO- The eclipse from this side of the world.

2012-05-23 Thread David J Brooks
Great

Dave

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:50 PM, Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com wrote:
 No, not the total eclipse...not in the Philippines anyway.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/7237033626/

 But we did get a partial during sunrise--not willing to gamble a road
 trip to find a good vantage point (the weather is transitioning from
 dry to wet) I settled for a pedestrian footbridge near my house.
 There was a haze so the sun did not really appear until well above 5
 degrees above the horizon missing landmarks which I could have used as
 a foreground.

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