Re: PESO: Breaching Whale
On 22/2/13, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed: I ran into this critter this afternoon: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16957553 Fantastic shot! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Producion --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - I See The Train A'Coming
Given the New Yorkers proclivity for pushing folks onto the rails as the train arrives, I would have an entirely different feeling of anticipation!! Nice shot though Knarf… The guy/gal with the long hair is a messenger, I bet! On Feb 22, 2013, at 18:13 , Larry Colen wrote: Subway train, that is: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/02/i-see-train-comin.html?m=1 Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome. Nice feeling of anticipation. But due to the location, it should be titled: I see the Train Coming, Eh. Joseph McAllister Pentaxian -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Windows 8 is Horseshit.
On Feb 23, 2013, at 2:49 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Speaking of Horseshit, I have another nomination. I'm staying in a Hilton hotel tonight. As an HH Honors member they seemed to offer free internet. (Most every motel on the interstate highway offers free internet.) On closer inspection, not really free at Hilton. No problem says I, the alternative is free to ATT customers. So I try that option, not quite. We need your ATT address and password. That I don't really remember, but with a cell phone call they help me with my address. Can't do anything about the password though. Have to call this other number for that. So I call. While a black man with poor English was helpful on the first call, the oriental woman on the second call was unbelievable! First, she has an unintelliginle accent - very poor Engllish language pronounciation. Second, she's talking so fast, I can't make out what she is saying. (And I've got a pretty good ear for it after my share of 3 hour conf calls to China.) Third, everything she says is clipped. It is being dropped by the cellphone connection. And fourth and most infuriating, she isn't listening! I say something and she launches into a 25 second sing-song monologue. I talk over her, but she just continues to speak.. I tell her to listen, but she doesn't. I tell her she is not conversing with me. I tell her I can't understand what she is saying. I tell her she has poor language skills. She continues to ask me about irrelevant questions. I finally give up and just start guessing at my password. I make a good guess and get signed on, after 30 minutes of horseshit. ATT blows dead bears. Now how do I get ATT to hear this? Regards, Bob S. Snail mail, registered, return receipt requested to the head of operations. On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 1:11 AM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 22/02/2013 12:10 PM, Walt wrote: On 2/21/2013 7:51 PM, Bill wrote: On 20/02/2013 8:18 PM, Walt wrote: On 2/20/2013 8:15 PM, Bill wrote: OK, so I got that out of the way. I just bought my wife a new laptop, which unfortunately came with Win 8 installed. To say it licks donkey balls is being both kind to it, and unkind to donkey balls lickers, who are not so bad when compared to Windows 8. It is a crap spewing, drowning us in chunky wet vomit, puerile, golden shower of an operating system. I just cannot say enough bad about Windows 8 to get my point across about just what an abomination it is, and those of you who have been on this list for more than a bakers dozen years are well aware of just how much bad stuff I can say about things that annoy me. I must get rid of it, and soon. Help me. bill Untold millions share your pain. FWIW, here's what I did for the new desktop at work: http://www.classicshell.net Yup, that helped. Actually gives it the best of both worlds. Has the Win XP look and usability with all the progressive features of Win 8. Wife happy. Happy wife, happy life. I'm happy. Thanks Walt. bill Glad to help. Here's a long (23 minutes) video review with a litany of all that's wrong with it -- so far. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTYet-qf1jo -- Walt Yeah. That's pretty much it. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Film Day 3
I like all three. Good shots and a classic feel to them. :-) Of the three, this one is the one I'd suggest a minor edit: just pull down the toe end in the curves as the blacks are a little weak. Otherwise I think you've caught the native rendering quality of that era's Summicron. Is this the collapsible Summicron? It reminds me very much of what I used to get with the Leica IIIf and Summicron 50/2 that I inherited from my father. While I never bonded with that camera (long story as to why...) and sold it a long long time ago, it would be great to have the Summicron 50 and Elmar 35 that were part of that kit now. There's something about the way these older lenses render that I find very appealing. Good to see the old Leica getting some exercise! Which Agfa folder have you got? One of my friends is gaga over his Agfa Isolette. G On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: A coffee shop pic. Again, the Leica iiif RD and Summicron 2.0. This one at f4, and converted to BW from the Portra 400 original. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16959392size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Shooting Film in the Digital Age
Thanks for posting this. Haven't seen it all the way through yet, but it looks very interesting. G On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 7:31 AM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote: G'day All, For those that haven't seen it already this little talk by photojournalist David Burnett is worth a watch (There is even some Pentax content): http://www.iso1200.com/2013/02/shooting-film-in-digital-age-and-other.html Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Amazing survival story
Amazing story. With all the other crap going on in the past few years taking our attention away, it's easy to forget that each of these catastrophes has its immediate, lasting, visceral effect on individual human lives. There is certainly magic in the world. G On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 7:08 PM, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote: I wouldn't normally post this but it's the 2nd anniversary today, and the first time I've seen this story. http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/8334256/Survival-against-the-odds Good reminder of what's really important. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Cargo Brad (messenger content)
Cargo bikes are amazing! Brad is a lone wolf, one of the few in Toronto. Has a manageable list of clients who require large boxes to be delivered on a regular basis. Because he can charge so much more for delivering big boxes he does okay with fewer deliveries (but obviously works harder for each delivery). He zips along pretty well on his big old cargo bike: http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2013/02/load-bearing-structure.html?m=1 Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. Cheers, frank If the world were clear, art would not exist. -- Albert Camus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Got caught by the green button
Ouch. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com Sent: February 23, 2013 2/23/13 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Got caught by the green button Damn, I attended a free studio workshop today, we had a three flash setup with two models and I had set the k5 to manual according to the flash setup. I had the grip on and hit the green button instead of the AF button which by default reset my settings to the accommodate the ambient light conditions. As there were a lot of people there it was fast paced (about 2-3 mins shooting time) I missed the change until it was too late so a lot of shots are quite blown out. Suffice to say I've now disabled the green button in manual mode which until this particular session had never been a real issue. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Film Day 3
I take my Leica CL (1973) out several times a year just to exercise it. The Yashica Mat EL (1958) sees action about once a year. Sadly, it's been almost three years since my Spotmatics have seen the light of day - haven't unpacked them since I moved three years ago. Must find them and take them out for a walk... Old cameras are so much fun! Quite liberating, actually. Digital becomes oppressive after a while. The simplicity of a mechanical film camera is refreshing. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Sent: February 22, 2013 2/22/13 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Film Day 3 Thanks Frank. Had a good time shooting film. And I gave the old Leica a bit of exercise. I have an equally old Agfa folder that is also in need of a workout. On Feb 22, 2013, at 9:18 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: My favourite of the three. The Leica was made for this! ;-) Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Sent: February 22, 2013 2/22/13 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Film Day 3 A coffee shop pic. Again, the Leica iiif RD and Summicron 2.0. This one at f4, and converted to BW from the Portra 400 original. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16959392size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Film Day 3
Thanks. I'll take a second look at the blacks. The lens is the Summicron 50/2 Collapsible. It's in very nice shape, aside form the aperture being a bit stiff. With frequent use it loosens up. Certainly one of the best LTM lenses. I also have the Summaron 35/3.5, while not quite the equal of the Summicron, it's still quite nice. My Agfa is the Isoletta, but it's the base model without a rangefinder. Focus has to be set by distance. It was my dad's camera. He bought it in Sweden in 1952 while visiting his mother for the last time, so the lens is marked in meters. He shot quite a bit with it, including stills that he used as inspiration for his oil paintings.When my mother came to live with us, she gave it to me. The lens was filthy in and out, so I took the front element off and cleaned it. Looks good now. Haven't shot with, but I loaded a roll of Portra 400 120 the other day and shot the first frame. May finish it today. I don't have a darkroom any more, but I still have developing tanks, so I may shoot some BW with it as well. I think I still have a few rolls of Plus X, which was once my favorite medium format BW film. Paul On Feb 23, 2013, at 7:51 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: I like all three. Good shots and a classic feel to them. :-) Of the three, this one is the one I'd suggest a minor edit: just pull down the toe end in the curves as the blacks are a little weak. Otherwise I think you've caught the native rendering quality of that era's Summicron. Is this the collapsible Summicron? It reminds me very much of what I used to get with the Leica IIIf and Summicron 50/2 that I inherited from my father. While I never bonded with that camera (long story as to why...) and sold it a long long time ago, it would be great to have the Summicron 50 and Elmar 35 that were part of that kit now. There's something about the way these older lenses render that I find very appealing. Good to see the old Leica getting some exercise! Which Agfa folder have you got? One of my friends is gaga over his Agfa Isolette. G On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: A coffee shop pic. Again, the Leica iiif RD and Summicron 2.0. This one at f4, and converted to BW from the Portra 400 original. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16959392size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Windows 8 is Horseshit.
They won't listen, no matter what you do or say. It's all about profits, and it is cheaper to setup an overseas call center with people who use English words but don't speak the language to read a script that they don't understand. They ask you a question and if you don't give one of their possible answers they just ask it again. The only way to change it is to buy the company and make the changes. jm -Original Message- From: Bob Sullivan Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 2:49 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Windows 8 is Horseshit. Speaking of Horseshit, I have another nomination. I'm staying in a Hilton hotel tonight. As an HH Honors member they seemed to offer free internet. (Most every motel on the interstate highway offers free internet.) On closer inspection, not really free at Hilton. No problem says I, the alternative is free to ATT customers. So I try that option, not quite. We need your ATT address and password. That I don't really remember, but with a cell phone call they help me with my address. Can't do anything about the password though. Have to call this other number for that. So I call. While a black man with poor English was helpful on the first call, the oriental woman on the second call was unbelievable! First, she has an unintelliginle accent - very poor Engllish language pronounciation. Second, she's talking so fast, I can't make out what she is saying. (And I've got a pretty good ear for it after my share of 3 hour conf calls to China.) Third, everything she says is clipped. It is being dropped by the cellphone connection. And fourth and most infuriating, she isn't listening! I say something and she launches into a 25 second sing-song monologue. I talk over her, but she just continues to speak.. I tell her to listen, but she doesn't. I tell her she is not conversing with me. I tell her I can't understand what she is saying. I tell her she has poor language skills. She continues to ask me about irrelevant questions. I finally give up and just start guessing at my password. I make a good guess and get signed on, after 30 minutes of horseshit. ATT blows dead bears. Now how do I get ATT to hear this? Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 1:11 AM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 22/02/2013 12:10 PM, Walt wrote: On 2/21/2013 7:51 PM, Bill wrote: On 20/02/2013 8:18 PM, Walt wrote: On 2/20/2013 8:15 PM, Bill wrote: OK, so I got that out of the way. I just bought my wife a new laptop, which unfortunately came with Win 8 installed. To say it licks donkey balls is being both kind to it, and unkind to donkey balls lickers, who are not so bad when compared to Windows 8. It is a crap spewing, drowning us in chunky wet vomit, puerile, golden shower of an operating system. I just cannot say enough bad about Windows 8 to get my point across about just what an abomination it is, and those of you who have been on this list for more than a bakers dozen years are well aware of just how much bad stuff I can say about things that annoy me. I must get rid of it, and soon. Help me. bill Untold millions share your pain. FWIW, here's what I did for the new desktop at work: http://www.classicshell.net Yup, that helped. Actually gives it the best of both worlds. Has the Win XP look and usability with all the progressive features of Win 8. Wife happy. Happy wife, happy life. I'm happy. Thanks Walt. bill Glad to help. Here's a long (23 minutes) video review with a litany of all that's wrong with it -- so far. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTYet-qf1jo -- Walt Yeah. That's pretty much it. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Film Day 3
On Sat, Feb 23, 2013, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Old cameras are so much fun! Quite liberating, actually. Digital becomes oppressive after a while. The simplicity of a mechanical film camera is refreshing. Could you expand on that? My perception is that digital is way simpler. -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ * * * Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Cargo Brad (messenger content)
On Sat, Feb 23, 2013, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: He zips along pretty well on his big old cargo bike: http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2013/02/load-bearing-structure.html?m=1 I like the way the shutter speed is just fast enough to freeze Brad while leaving the background blurred from your tracking. Gives a motion feel. What speed was it? -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ * * * Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Film Day 3
I believe what Frank is saying is that an older film camera without meters, autofocus or other electronic embellishments is in itself simple and straightforward. The function of the machine is rewarding. Using it correctly is not necessarily easy, but that's part of the fun as well. I take pride even in the simple act of loading film into an old screwmount Leica. It's anything but simple. Paul On Feb 23, 2013, at 10:15 AM, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 23, 2013, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Old cameras are so much fun! Quite liberating, actually. Digital becomes oppressive after a while. The simplicity of a mechanical film camera is refreshing. Could you expand on that? My perception is that digital is way simpler. -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ * * * Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Windows 8 is Horseshit.
Or you cold drop a bit of coke on Paris and ask her to set you up with a better deal:-). On Feb 23, 2013, at 10:13 AM, John Mullan k...@hotmail.com wrote: They won't listen, no matter what you do or say. It's all about profits, and it is cheaper to setup an overseas call center with people who use English words but don't speak the language to read a script that they don't understand. They ask you a question and if you don't give one of their possible answers they just ask it again. The only way to change it is to buy the company and make the changes. jm -Original Message- From: Bob Sullivan Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 2:49 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Windows 8 is Horseshit. Speaking of Horseshit, I have another nomination. I'm staying in a Hilton hotel tonight. As an HH Honors member they seemed to offer free internet. (Most every motel on the interstate highway offers free internet.) On closer inspection, not really free at Hilton. No problem says I, the alternative is free to ATT customers. So I try that option, not quite. We need your ATT address and password. That I don't really remember, but with a cell phone call they help me with my address. Can't do anything about the password though. Have to call this other number for that. So I call. While a black man with poor English was helpful on the first call, the oriental woman on the second call was unbelievable! First, she has an unintelliginle accent - very poor Engllish language pronounciation. Second, she's talking so fast, I can't make out what she is saying. (And I've got a pretty good ear for it after my share of 3 hour conf calls to China.) Third, everything she says is clipped. It is being dropped by the cellphone connection. And fourth and most infuriating, she isn't listening! I say something and she launches into a 25 second sing-song monologue. I talk over her, but she just continues to speak.. I tell her to listen, but she doesn't. I tell her she is not conversing with me. I tell her I can't understand what she is saying. I tell her she has poor language skills. She continues to ask me about irrelevant questions. I finally give up and just start guessing at my password. I make a good guess and get signed on, after 30 minutes of horseshit. ATT blows dead bears. Now how do I get ATT to hear this? Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 1:11 AM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 22/02/2013 12:10 PM, Walt wrote: On 2/21/2013 7:51 PM, Bill wrote: On 20/02/2013 8:18 PM, Walt wrote: On 2/20/2013 8:15 PM, Bill wrote: OK, so I got that out of the way. I just bought my wife a new laptop, which unfortunately came with Win 8 installed. To say it licks donkey balls is being both kind to it, and unkind to donkey balls lickers, who are not so bad when compared to Windows 8. It is a crap spewing, drowning us in chunky wet vomit, puerile, golden shower of an operating system. I just cannot say enough bad about Windows 8 to get my point across about just what an abomination it is, and those of you who have been on this list for more than a bakers dozen years are well aware of just how much bad stuff I can say about things that annoy me. I must get rid of it, and soon. Help me. bill Untold millions share your pain. FWIW, here's what I did for the new desktop at work: http://www.classicshell.net Yup, that helped. Actually gives it the best of both worlds. Has the Win XP look and usability with all the progressive features of Win 8. Wife happy. Happy wife, happy life. I'm happy. Thanks Walt. bill Glad to help. Here's a long (23 minutes) video review with a litany of all that's wrong with it -- so far. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTYet-qf1jo -- Walt Yeah. That's pretty much it. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Film Day 3
On Sat, Feb 23, 2013, Paul Stenquist wrote: On Feb 23, 2013, at 10:15 AM, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 23, 2013, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Old cameras are so much fun! Quite liberating, actually. Digital becomes oppressive after a while. The simplicity of a mechanical film camera is refreshing. Could you expand on that? My perception is that digital is way simpler. I believe what Frank is saying is that an older film camera without meters, autofocus or other electronic embellishments is in itself simple and straightforward. The function of the machine is rewarding. Using it correctly is not necessarily easy, but that's part of the fun as well. I take pride even in the simple act of loading film into an old screwmount Leica. It's anything but simple. That makes sense, but I'm not getting what makes digital oppressive. -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ * * * Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Film Day 3
On Feb 23, 2013, at 11:09 AM, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 23, 2013, Paul Stenquist wrote: On Feb 23, 2013, at 10:15 AM, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 23, 2013, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Old cameras are so much fun! Quite liberating, actually. Digital becomes oppressive after a while. The simplicity of a mechanical film camera is refreshing. Could you expand on that? My perception is that digital is way simpler. I believe what Frank is saying is that an older film camera without meters, autofocus or other electronic embellishments is in itself simple and straightforward. The function of the machine is rewarding. Using it correctly is not necessarily easy, but that's part of the fun as well. I take pride even in the simple act of loading film into an old screwmount Leica. It's anything but simple. That makes sense, but I'm not getting what makes digital oppressive. I don't think digital is oppressive, but it can get tedious and perhaps uninspiring. Change is good. -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ * * * Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - I See The Train A'Coming
You know, it's a sad commentary on the state of the world today that my first thought was those people are standing right where some idiot can push them out onto the tracks. From: Joseph McAllister Given the New Yorkers proclivity for pushing folks onto the rails as the train arrives, I would have an entirely different feeling of anticipation!! Nice shot though Knarf? The guy/gal with the long hair is a messenger, I bet! On Feb 22, 2013, at 18:13 , Larry Colen wrote: Subway train, that is: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/02/i-see-train-comin.html?m=1 Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome. Nice feeling of anticipation. But due to the location, it should be titled: I see the Train Coming, Eh. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - I See The Train A'Coming
Scary - but then I live in New York. I stand in the stairwell until the train stops these days ann On 2/22/2013 21:05, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Subway train, that is: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/02/i-see-train-comin.html?m=1 Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome. Cheers, frank If the world were clear, art would not exist. -- Albert Camus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Windows 8 is Horseshit.
From: Paul Stenquist On Feb 23, 2013, at 2:49 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Speaking of Horseshit, I have another nomination. I'm staying in a Hilton hotel tonight. As an HH Honors member they seemed to offer free internet. (Most every motel on the interstate highway offers free internet.) On closer inspection, not really free at Hilton. No problem says I, the alternative is free to ATT customers. So I try that option, not quite. We need your ATT address and password. That I don't really remember, but with a cell phone call they help me with my address. Can't do anything about the password though. Have to call this other number for that. So I call. While a black man with poor English was helpful on the first call, the oriental woman on the second call was unbelievable! First, she has an unintelliginle accent - very poor Engllish language pronounciation. Second, she's talking so fast, I can't make out what she is saying. (And I've got a pretty good ear for it after my share of 3 hour conf calls to China.) Third, everything she says is clipped. It is being dropped by the cellphone connection. And fourth and most infuriating, she isn't listening! I say something and she launches into a 25 second sing-song monologue. I talk over her, but she just continues to speak.. I tell her to listen, but she doesn't. I tell her she is not conversing with me. I tell her I can't understand what she is saying. I tell her she has poor language skills. She continues to ask me about irrelevant questions. I finally give up and just start guessing at my password. I make a good guess and get signed on, after 30 minutes of horseshit. ATT blows dead bears. Now how do I get ATT to hear this? Regards, Bob S. Snail mail, registered, return receipt requested to the head of operations. To which the response from ATT is You can't notify us by mail, you have to call us on the telephone. [BTW, the phone number you have to call for that is a *SECRET*.] I don't actually do any business with ATT any more, but I end up having to do battle with them every couple of years. It's a recurring nightmare from the days when I did have a telephone. About the only thing I've found that halfway works is to keep asking May I speak to YOUR supervisor? until I get someone who speaks English I can understand. Unfortunately, I'm serious about it only working HALFWAY. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Got caught by the green button
Ouch indeed! Sorry to hear it. I've never mis-hit the green button, but I've been screwed by e-dial-creep on multiple occasions. While in the heat of shooting, I nudge one or other of the e-dials so either the aperture or shutter drifts away. The shutter usually doesn't cause hassles: I set it to 1/160th, but 1/125th is safe. But the aperture changing is a killer. I've also knocked the mode from M to Av, TAv or other -- always really bad! I'm looking forward to getting a K-5 model some day just to eliminate that possibility. For studio shooting, I wish there was a way to lock out all the settings buttons and dials after configuring them. On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 9:19 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Ouch. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com Sent: February 23, 2013 2/23/13 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Got caught by the green button Damn, I attended a free studio workshop today, we had a three flash setup with two models and I had set the k5 to manual according to the flash setup. I had the grip on and hit the green button instead of the AF button which by default reset my settings to the accommodate the ambient light conditions. As there were a lot of people there it was fast paced (about 2-3 mins shooting time) I missed the change until it was too late so a lot of shots are quite blown out. Suffice to say I've now disabled the green button in manual mode which until this particular session had never been a real issue. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Film Day 3
Hey, I love digital. If I didn't I wouldn't use it. But I find film (on a mechanical camera) to be refreshing for the reasons you stated, Paul. I like that there are three controls: Focus, aperture, shutter speed. Full automation is great but after a while it becomes tedious. Chimp, see what the camera is doing, decide if I need exposure comp, make sure the camera is focusing on the subject, decide if I have to choose a focus point, refocus, check the shutter speed and aperture in the viewfinder, adjust accordingly if necessary, etc., etc., etc. And that's what I mean by oppressive. One is constantly involved with the ~camera~ and less on the photograph. Because of the simplicity of controls of a mechanical camera all the auto functions are in my head, internalised and just as automatic as when they are in camera. I do my own exposure comp by flicking aperture ring or shutter speed dial. I focus on the subject every time. I can concentrate on ~taking a picture~ rather than paying some attention to what the camera is doing. That is why sometimes digital is oppressive. Film clears my mind. When I pick up my dslr after a day shooting film I am invigorated and ready to have fun again. But I love digital. Will never go back to film any more than a few times a year, just for fun. And to help me appreciate what digital can do. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Sent: February 23, 2013 2/23/13 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Film Day 3 On Feb 23, 2013, at 11:09 AM, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 23, 2013, Paul Stenquist wrote: On Feb 23, 2013, at 10:15 AM, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 23, 2013, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Old cameras are so much fun! Quite liberating, actually. Digital becomes oppressive after a while. The simplicity of a mechanical film camera is refreshing. Could you expand on that? My perception is that digital is way simpler. I believe what Frank is saying is that an older film camera without meters, autofocus or other electronic embellishments is in itself simple and straightforward. The function of the machine is rewarding. Using it correctly is not necessarily easy, but that's part of the fun as well. I take pride even in the simple act of loading film into an old screwmount Leica. It's anything but simple. That makes sense, but I'm not getting what makes digital oppressive. I don't think digital is oppressive, but it can get tedious and perhaps uninspiring. Change is good. -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ * * * Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Hidden Waterfall
Beautiful scene. I like how you framed that waterfall and used foreground elements to convey the sense of it being hidden. Very nice! Mark On 2/20/2013 4:02 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: One of the sights on the infamous Road to Hana: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16938592 Comments and criticisms are always welcome. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Breaching Whale
Great shot - caught at just the right moment. Mark On 2/22/2013 2:49 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: I ran into this critter this afternoon: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16957553 Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Film Day 3
Nice collection of shots, Paul. This one is my favorite. There's something fun about going out with a film camera, taking 24 or 36 exposures, and not knowing for sure what you have till they get developed... Mark On 2/22/2013 1:36 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: A coffee shop pic. Again, the Leica iiif RD and Summicron 2.0. This one at f4, and converted to BW from the Portra 400 original. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16959392size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Got caught by the green button
On 23/02/2013 10:46 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: Ouch indeed! Sorry to hear it. I've never mis-hit the green button, but I've been screwed by e-dial-creep on multiple occasions. While in the heat of shooting, I nudge one or other of the e-dials so either the aperture or shutter drifts away. The shutter usually doesn't cause hassles: I set it to 1/160th, but 1/125th is safe. But the aperture changing is a killer. I've also knocked the mode from M to Av, TAv or other -- always really bad! I'm looking forward to getting a K-5 model some day just to eliminate that possibility. For studio shooting, I wish there was a way to lock out all the settings buttons and dials after configuring them. It would be smart if one of the user functions was a locked manual mode. I've had a couple of occasions where I've accidentally bumped a dial and changed a setting I didn't want changed. I tape the dials now so that I can't accidentally change settings if I know I don't want them changed. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - I See The Train A'Coming
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Sessoms You know, it's a sad commentary on the state of the world today that my first thought was those people are standing right where some idiot can push them out onto the tracks. When I'm waiting for the tube I'm always very aware of who is around and behind me. It doesn't have to be deliberate - on a crowded platform it could happen accidentally. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Windows 8 is Horseshit.
Hmmm. In what way was the internet not free? I'm an HHonors member and the few times I've stayed there's not been a problem with free internet service. Is it just up to the individual hotels to make that decision? -p On 2/23/2013 1:49 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Speaking of Horseshit, I have another nomination. I'm staying in a Hilton hotel tonight. As an HH Honors member they seemed to offer free internet. (Most every motel on the interstate highway offers free internet.) On closer inspection, not really free at Hilton. No problem says I, the alternative is free to ATT customers. So I try that option, not quite. We need your ATT address and password. That I don't really remember, but with a cell phone call they help me with my address. Can't do anything about the password though. Have to call this other number for that. So I call. While a black man with poor English was helpful on the first call, the oriental woman on the second call was unbelievable! First, she has an unintelliginle accent - very poor Engllish language pronounciation. Second, she's talking so fast, I can't make out what she is saying. (And I've got a pretty good ear for it after my share of 3 hour conf calls to China.) Third, everything she says is clipped. It is being dropped by the cellphone connection. And fourth and most infuriating, she isn't listening! I say something and she launches into a 25 second sing-song monologue. I talk over her, but she just continues to speak.. I tell her to listen, but she doesn't. I tell her she is not conversing with me. I tell her I can't understand what she is saying. I tell her she has poor language skills. She continues to ask me about irrelevant questions. I finally give up and just start guessing at my password. I make a good guess and get signed on, after 30 minutes of horseshit. ATT blows dead bears. Now how do I get ATT to hear this? Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 1:11 AM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 22/02/2013 12:10 PM, Walt wrote: On 2/21/2013 7:51 PM, Bill wrote: On 20/02/2013 8:18 PM, Walt wrote: On 2/20/2013 8:15 PM, Bill wrote: OK, so I got that out of the way. I just bought my wife a new laptop, which unfortunately came with Win 8 installed. To say it licks donkey balls is being both kind to it, and unkind to donkey balls lickers, who are not so bad when compared to Windows 8. It is a crap spewing, drowning us in chunky wet vomit, puerile, golden shower of an operating system. I just cannot say enough bad about Windows 8 to get my point across about just what an abomination it is, and those of you who have been on this list for more than a bakers dozen years are well aware of just how much bad stuff I can say about things that annoy me. I must get rid of it, and soon. Help me. bill Untold millions share your pain. FWIW, here's what I did for the new desktop at work: http://www.classicshell.net Yup, that helped. Actually gives it the best of both worlds. Has the Win XP look and usability with all the progressive features of Win 8. Wife happy. Happy wife, happy life. I'm happy. Thanks Walt. bill Glad to help. Here's a long (23 minutes) video review with a litany of all that's wrong with it -- so far. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTYet-qf1jo -- Walt Yeah. That's pretty much it. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Being old doesn't seem so old now that I'm old. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Film Day
Paul Stenquist wrote on Fri, 22 Feb 2013 09:56:54 -0800: A couple of weeks back I shot a roll of Portra 400 in my Leica iiif RD plus Summicron 2.0 Collapsible. My Epson 500 arrived today, so Iscanned a couple of frames. The building to the rear was designed by Eliel Saarinen. I don't know who created the sculpture in the foreground. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16959204size=lg I believe that this sculpture is called For Mother Teresa and the sculptor is Mark di Suvero. It's one of many wonderful things to see on the grounds of the Cranbrook Academy of Art. Regards, Jim * Jim King jamesk8...@mac.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Got caught by the green button
I agree. I would love locked dials. I often bump my aperture dial in Av mode and end up shooting at apertures I don't want if I am not paying attention. On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 23/02/2013 10:46 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: Ouch indeed! Sorry to hear it. I've never mis-hit the green button, but I've been screwed by e-dial-creep on multiple occasions. While in the heat of shooting, I nudge one or other of the e-dials so either the aperture or shutter drifts away. The shutter usually doesn't cause hassles: I set it to 1/160th, but 1/125th is safe. But the aperture changing is a killer. I've also knocked the mode from M to Av, TAv or other -- always really bad! I'm looking forward to getting a K-5 model some day just to eliminate that possibility. For studio shooting, I wish there was a way to lock out all the settings buttons and dials after configuring them. It would be smart if one of the user functions was a locked manual mode. I've had a couple of occasions where I've accidentally bumped a dial and changed a setting I didn't want changed. I tape the dials now so that I can't accidentally change settings if I know I don't want them changed. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Windows 8 is Horseshit.
On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 11:06:27PM -0500, John Sessoms wrote: From: kwaller Is that a rhetorical question? Mostly, but were you referring to microsoft and their product or bill in his response - ie more irate? Microsoft. You'd think they'd have learned by now. Oh, they've learned. Mostly, they've learned they can sell enough copies of what they want to sell that they don't need to pay all that much attention to what customers want to buy. Not that they are in any way alone in that busines model ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT in defense of changing gear
Just in case you need to convince The Bank about why you need that K-5, or you need to justify to the PDML why you sold all your Pentax gear, here's Kirk Tuck with some good words: The brain stays flexible as long as you challenge it. I can think of nothing less challenging than to use the same tools to do the same craft over and over again in the same way. http://visualsciencelab.blogspot.ca/2013/02/anatomy-of-friendly-portrait-session.html -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Film Day 3
On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 7:06 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Thanks. I'll take a second look at the blacks. The lens is the Summicron 50/2 Collapsible. It's in very nice shape, aside form the aperture being a bit stiff. With frequent use it loosens up. Certainly one of the best LTM lenses. I also have the Summaron 35/3.5, while not quite the equal of the Summicron, it's still quite nice. Nice. I seem to recall the lens coatings on that era of Summicrons were often quite soft, so take care while cleaning it. My Agfa is the Isoletta, but it's the base model without a rangefinder. Focus has to be set by distance. It was my dad's camera. He bought it in Sweden in 1952 while visiting his mother for the last time, so the lens is marked in meters. He shot quite a bit with it, including stills that he used as inspiration for his oil paintings.When my mother came to live with us, she gave it to me. The lens was filthy in and out, so I took the front element off and cleaned it. Looks good now. Haven't shot with, but I loaded a roll of Portra 400 120 the other day and shot the first frame. May finish it today. I don't have a darkroom any more, but I still have developing tanks, so I may shoot some BW with it as well. I think I still have a few rolls of Plus X, which was once my favorite medium format BW film. Ah, like my Balda Baldix. :-) The new Fuji Neopan ACROS 100 is just spectacular. I shot a roll of it today with the Bessa III. Same as you, I have equipment and chemistry to process negatives only. I should get to it. :-) -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT in defense of changing gear
Curiously I find that using the same gear day in day out reduces the challenge, at least from the familiarity perspective (notwithstanding my recent incident in studio :) On 24 February 2013 09:00, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Just in case you need to convince The Bank about why you need that K-5, or you need to justify to the PDML why you sold all your Pentax gear, here's Kirk Tuck with some good words: The brain stays flexible as long as you challenge it. I can think of nothing less challenging than to use the same tools to do the same craft over and over again in the same way. http://visualsciencelab.blogspot.ca/2013/02/anatomy-of-friendly-portrait-session.html -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Got caught by the green button
I feel your pain, I had the ISO on the front dial in AV mode thinking that it was a smart thing to do early on, but keeping track of two potential unwanted variables whist busy is too much. A lock on the thumb-wheel dials would be most appreciated. On 24 February 2013 03:46, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Ouch indeed! Sorry to hear it. I've never mis-hit the green button, but I've been screwed by e-dial-creep on multiple occasions. While in the heat of shooting, I nudge one or other of the e-dials so either the aperture or shutter drifts away. The shutter usually doesn't cause hassles: I set it to 1/160th, but 1/125th is safe. But the aperture changing is a killer. I've also knocked the mode from M to Av, TAv or other -- always really bad! I'm looking forward to getting a K-5 model some day just to eliminate that possibility. For studio shooting, I wish there was a way to lock out all the settings buttons and dials after configuring them. On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 9:19 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Ouch. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com Sent: February 23, 2013 2/23/13 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Got caught by the green button Damn, I attended a free studio workshop today, we had a three flash setup with two models and I had set the k5 to manual according to the flash setup. I had the grip on and hit the green button instead of the AF button which by default reset my settings to the accommodate the ambient light conditions. As there were a lot of people there it was fast paced (about 2-3 mins shooting time) I missed the change until it was too late so a lot of shots are quite blown out. Suffice to say I've now disabled the green button in manual mode which until this particular session had never been a real issue. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
paw week 8--snow mound
cheers, Christine http://www.caguila.com/paw2013/content/_IGP5554_large.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Got caught by the green button
On Feb 23, 2013, at 2:07 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: I feel your pain, I had the ISO on the front dial in AV mode thinking that it was a smart thing to do early on, but keeping track of two potential unwanted variables whist busy is too much. A lock on the thumb-wheel dials would be most appreciated. Until you try to change the settings and spend twenty minutes trying to figure out why they won't change. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT in defense of changing gear
On 2/23/2013 17:05, Rob Studdert wrote: Curiously I find that using the same gear day in day out -- reduces the challenge,- at least from the familiarity perspective (notwithstanding my recent incident in studio :) Isn't that what this guy's point was, actually? (I just read the quote below , not the blog) ann On 24 February 2013 09:00, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Just in case you need to convince The Bank about why you need that K-5, or you need to justify to the PDML why you sold all your Pentax gear, here's Kirk Tuck with some good words: The brain stays flexible as long as you challenge it. I can think of ***nothing less challenging than to use the same tools*** to do the same craft over and over again in the same way. http://visualsciencelab.blogspot.ca/2013/02/anatomy-of-friendly-portrait-session.html -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Got caught by the green button
From: Bill On 23/02/2013 10:46 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: Ouch indeed! Sorry to hear it. I've never mis-hit the green button, but I've been screwed by e-dial-creep on multiple occasions. While in the heat of shooting, I nudge one or other of the e-dials so either the aperture or shutter drifts away. The shutter usually doesn't cause hassles: I set it to 1/160th, but 1/125th is safe. But the aperture changing is a killer. I've also knocked the mode from M to Av, TAv or other -- always really bad! I'm looking forward to getting a K-5 model some day just to eliminate that possibility. For studio shooting, I wish there was a way to lock out all the settings buttons and dials after configuring them. It would be smart if one of the user functions was a locked manual mode. I've had a couple of occasions where I've accidentally bumped a dial and changed a setting I didn't want changed. I tape the dials now so that I can't accidentally change settings if I know I don't want them changed. bill I know that there are some cameras where you have to lift the mode dial slightly or hold down a release button before you can turn it to change the settings. On the LX you had to hold down a button while you turned the dial to change the exposure compensation (dial in the same location). It wouldn't be that difficult for Pentax to include that kind of an interlock on their next camera. Preventing e-dial creep would be a bit more of a problem. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT in defense of changing gear
On 24 February 2013 12:21, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: Isn't that what this guy's point was, actually? (I just read the quote below , not the blog) I read the blog and to be honest I'm not sure what his point is. Mine is just that familiarity with the equipment allows you to make a greater part of your picture taking the creative component. Cheers, -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Got caught by the green button
On 24 February 2013 12:29, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: I know that there are some cameras where you have to lift the mode dial slightly or hold down a release button before you can turn it to change the settings. On the LX you had to hold down a button while you turned the dial to change the exposure compensation (dial in the same location). The K5 has a mode lock button at the top of the dial it easy to change quickly if you're a contortionist. It wouldn't be that difficult for Pentax to include that kind of an interlock on their next camera. Preventing e-dial creep would be a bit more of a problem. Wouldn't be too difficult, hel they can do it on washing machines, ie hold exp comp and ISO buttons simultaneously for a second? -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Film Day 3
On Feb 23, 2013, at 4:59 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 7:06 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Thanks. I'll take a second look at the blacks. The lens is the Summicron 50/2 Collapsible. It's in very nice shape, aside form the aperture being a bit stiff. With frequent use it loosens up. Certainly one of the best LTM lenses. I also have the Summaron 35/3.5, while not quite the equal of the Summicron, it's still quite nice. Nice. I seem to recall the lens coatings on that era of Summicrons were often quite soft, so take care while cleaning it. Yes, I've heard it's rare to find an old Summicron without cleaning marks. But either mine doesn't have any, or I'm too old to see them. I haven't cleaned it often. When I do it's with cleaning fluid and a very gentle wipe with a clean microfiber cloth. I keep a lens cap on it when not in use, which is almost all the time. My Agfa is the Isoletta, but it's the base model without a rangefinder. Focus has to be set by distance. It was my dad's camera. He bought it in Sweden in 1952 while visiting his mother for the last time, so the lens is marked in meters. He shot quite a bit with it, including stills that he used as inspiration for his oil paintings.When my mother came to live with us, she gave it to me. The lens was filthy in and out, so I took the front element off and cleaned it. Looks good now. Haven't shot with, but I loaded a roll of Portra 400 120 the other day and shot the first frame. May finish it today. I don't have a darkroom any more, but I still have developing tanks, so I may shoot some BW with it as well. I think I still have a few rolls of Plus X, which was once my favorite medium format BW film. Ah, like my Balda Baldix. :-) The new Fuji Neopan ACROS 100 is just spectacular. I shot a roll of it today with the Bessa III. Same as you, I have equipment and chemistry to process negatives only. I should get to it. :-) -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Got caught by the green button
I just try to watch settings in the view finder. I have the front dial set to aperture and the rear set to ISO. I don't bump the front often...the ISO dial is more problematic. Usually I double check everything before I hit the shutter, but in fast moving situations you stop noticing that you are suddenly at iso 6400 @ f16. Whoops. I'm on the fence. Nikons I think require a button press for the dials to activate. This could be useful sometimes. At the same time I love that I can hold the camera up to my eye and start dialing in what I want immediately, so its a double edged sword. I typically preset my camera to the settings I want anyways. If things are changing a lot, I will use auto-iso and set a max ISO and just bump my aperture up and down to give me the shutter speeds I need. Adjusting the program line to a faster or slower speed depending on subject matter is also highly useful. I find that I use auto ISO on the k-5 a bit, where on the k-7 I was always trying to keep my ISO as low as possible with 1600 being my if max when IQ is not critical. On the k-5 I'll use 3200 without hesitation and even 6400...especially for black and white 6400 is pretty pleasing with the noise pattern resembling grain somewhat. On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 8:36 PM, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: On 24 February 2013 12:29, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: I know that there are some cameras where you have to lift the mode dial slightly or hold down a release button before you can turn it to change the settings. On the LX you had to hold down a button while you turned the dial to change the exposure compensation (dial in the same location). The K5 has a mode lock button at the top of the dial it easy to change quickly if you're a contortionist. It wouldn't be that difficult for Pentax to include that kind of an interlock on their next camera. Preventing e-dial creep would be a bit more of a problem. Wouldn't be too difficult, hel they can do it on washing machines, ie hold exp comp and ISO buttons simultaneously for a second? -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
1975 Kodachrome
A shot of my race car on the jack and ready to be warmed in the pits. Notice how I didn't bother to close the doors on the car hauler behind it. But I was more into the racing than the photography back then. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16963159size=lg Having a lot of fun scanning old transparencies with the new Epson 500V. Most of my Kodachromes are as good as new. They've been stored in plastic sleeves for the last twenty years. In the Kodak boxes for the preceding twenty or so years. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: paw week 8--snow mound
Wonderful shot! Terrific composition and all those greens and blacks and whites are stunning! The building in the background looks very Miesian (as in Mies van der Rohe). What is it? Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com Sent: February 23, 2013 2/23/13 To: PDML List pdml@pdml.net Subject: paw week 8--snow mound cheers, Christine http://www.caguila.com/paw2013/content/_IGP5554_large.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: paw week 8--snow mound
Excellent composition and gorgeous color. I like it. Paul On Feb 23, 2013, at 9:18 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Wonderful shot! Terrific composition and all those greens and blacks and whites are stunning! The building in the background looks very Miesian (as in Mies van der Rohe). What is it? Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com Sent: February 23, 2013 2/23/13 To: PDML List pdml@pdml.net Subject: paw week 8--snow mound cheers, Christine http://www.caguila.com/paw2013/content/_IGP5554_large.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT in defense of changing gear
I would suggest that one is changing tools each time one selects a different lens. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 1975 Kodachrome
That doesn't look faded in the least. I guess its true. Kodachrome lasts forever. I never liked the color personally though. The highlight retention always surprises me in film after looking at digital for so long now. Cool shot btw. On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 9:16 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: A shot of my race car on the jack and ready to be warmed in the pits. Notice how I didn't bother to close the doors on the car hauler behind it. But I was more into the racing than the photography back then. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16963159size=lg Having a lot of fun scanning old transparencies with the new Epson 500V. Most of my Kodachromes are as good as new. They've been stored in plastic sleeves for the last twenty years. In the Kodak boxes for the preceding twenty or so years. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT in defense of changing gear
I like the pentax cameras because they fit like a glove. I fingers know where everything is and what they make accessible are the functions I need most (ISO, EV, etc). I've used canons and nikons and I hate their ergonomics. I love that I can do about everything one handed..even change the white balance. (take that d7000!) I think that makes for better pictures because the camera just becomes a natural extension of me. I'm not constantly fighting it to get what I want out of it. It becomes transparent. I think there is something about that. I don't see the point in moving to an alien system and having to readjust just for the sheer challenge of it. If anything, you should be challenging your brain to take better pictures. The more you know your gear intimately, the easier it will be for you to be more creative. That's a fact if you ask me. If you aren't challenging yourself to try new things you aren't progressing. People think I change gear because I'm in love with the gear. I really change it because the only way to stay fresh and relevant to yourself and the process is to keep growing and keep questioning. I have the advantage of being able to look back and see how we used to do it long enough ago to see the stark contrast between the days of hypercontrolled and stiff photography that comprised the art when I started out in the commercial field. It's totally different today and the same old tools don't necessarily apply. This paragraph struck me as being rather flawed. By this logic Cartier Bersson would have been a much better photographer if he changed lenses or bought an SLR. Or O Winston Link never grew as a photographer because he always used view cameraas. If that isn't a load of BS, I don't know what is. You should chose your equipment because it suits the purpose you are trying to achieve not because you want a challenge. If all you need is an all manual rangefinder and a 50mm lens then I don't see anything wrong with that. I'm very much ok with just a couple of primes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT in defense of changing gear
Eh, he gets very philosophical every two weeks or so. Then he rants about people only caring about camera reviews. Then he writes a camera review. Ad infinitum. On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 8:21 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: On 2/23/2013 17:05, Rob Studdert wrote: Curiously I find that using the same gear day in day out -- reduces the challenge,- at least from the familiarity perspective (notwithstanding my recent incident in studio :) Isn't that what this guy's point was, actually? (I just read the quote below , not the blog) ann On 24 February 2013 09:00, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Just in case you need to convince The Bank about why you need that K-5, or you need to justify to the PDML why you sold all your Pentax gear, here's Kirk Tuck with some good words: The brain stays flexible as long as you challenge it. I can think of ***nothing less challenging than to use the same tools*** to do the same craft over and over again in the same way. http://visualsciencelab.blogspot.ca/2013/02/anatomy-of-friendly-portrait-session.html -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- David Parsons Photography http://www.davidparsonsphoto.com Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT in defense of changing gear
on 2013-02-23 15:00 Bruce Walker wrote The brain stays flexible as long as you challenge it. I can think of nothing less challenging than to use the same tools to do the same craft over and over again in the same way. it sounds like Kirk Tuck has just found a specific way of challenging himself; we all have to do that, but thankfully not all the same way -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT in defense of changing gear
On hand I agree with the blogger that you gotta change things up to keep challenging yourself. That's why I shoot film, medium format, experiment with developing. use antique and junk cameras, *got a Q*, and try new ideas in general. On the other hand, I've done much the same work with multiple generations of gear I do a lot of the same stuff with a DSLR as I did with an SLR and slide film. It is easier these days, but but it's not much of difference. Upgrading to a full frame body, changing from brand x to y, upping megapixels, getting a piece of glass that is a bit faster or longer or sharper - I don't see any of that as actually being about change or challenge. It may be about incremental improvement, but ultimately it is not about fundamental change. So I agree that fundamental change is great, but that usually means going back to more primitive and basic modes simply because the difference between consumer grade and the latest pro grade gear is ultimately insignificant. Freud wrote about the narcissism of small differences - the idea that people with small differences can clash more than those with significant differences in their world view. When confronted with something similar to what you are familiar with the differences are exaggerated. When confronted with something totally difference, you actually see it as something different and thing differently about it. You see it all the time in our consumerist society were minor differences have to be exaggerated in order differentiate products that are otherwise essentially the same. I'd change brands in a heartbeat if I really thought there was any significant difference. I do see a difference still in some other approaches - like those I mention above - and totally agree that is the way to go. Mark On 2/23/2013 5:00 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: Just in case you need to convince The Bank about why you need that K-5, or you need to justify to the PDML why you sold all your Pentax gear, here's Kirk Tuck with some good words: The brain stays flexible as long as you challenge it. I can think of nothing less challenging than to use the same tools to do the same craft over and over again in the same way. http://visualsciencelab.blogspot.ca/2013/02/anatomy-of-friendly-portrait-session.html -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Got caught by the green button
On 23/02/2013 6:44 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Feb 23, 2013, at 2:07 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: I feel your pain, I had the ISO on the front dial in AV mode thinking that it was a smart thing to do early on, but keeping track of two potential unwanted variables whist busy is too much. A lock on the thumb-wheel dials would be most appreciated. Until you try to change the settings and spend twenty minutes trying to figure out why they won't change. Hence wanting it to be a user function. There is no reason why the settings in manual couldn't be locked down by saving them to a user function. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 1975 Kodachrome
On 23/02/2013 8:40 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: That doesn't look faded in the least. I guess its true. Kodachrome lasts forever. I never liked the color personally though. The highlight retention always surprises me in film after looking at digital for so long now. Cool shot btw. Kodachrome has excellent dark storage stability, but terrible fading problems when exposed to bright light. Kodachromes that were projected a lot had a habit of fading. IIRC, Henry Wilhelm was able to measure fading in Kodachrome after as little as an hour of projection. Ektachrome, OTOH, had much better behaviour when projected, but some had terrible dark storage. My father was an avid slide film shooter, but not a great photographer. Perhaps he thought that projecting them bigger made them better, I don't know. He made us sit through interminable boring slide shows. But I digress. The point of this, if I can ever find it When we cleaned out my parent's house in 2002, I came across my dad's slides, and went through them. All of the Kodachromes were in good shape, only showing what I would consider projection fading. A lot of the Ektachromes, however, had faded completely clear, and everything from when he started shooting Ektachrome in the early 60s was showing pretty severe fading. All the slides I was paying attention to were from the mid 1950s to the late 1960s. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 1975 Kodachrome
On 2/23/2013 21:16, Paul Stenquist wrote: A shot of my race car on the jack and ready to be warmed in the pits. Notice how I didn't bother to close the doors on the car hauler behind it. But I was more into the racing than the photography back then. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16963159size=lg Having a lot of fun scanning old transparencies with the new Epson 500V. Most of my Kodachromes are as good as new. They've been stored in plastic sleeves for the last twenty years. In the Kodak boxes for the preceding twenty or so years. Paul ah so you got it! .. great scanner isnt it? My Kodachromes from back then are fine as well - lasted better than Agfacrhomes from the 60's. and the ektachromes didn't always fare so well. My chromes are in boxes in metal cabinets and some in archival sleeves. ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT in defense of changing gear
On 23/02/2013 9:20 PM, steve harley wrote: on 2013-02-23 15:00 Bruce Walker wrote The brain stays flexible as long as you challenge it. I can think of nothing less challenging than to use the same tools to do the same craft over and over again in the same way. it sounds like Kirk Tuck has just found a specific way of challenging himself; we all have to do that, but thankfully not all the same way I wonder if I could get some buy in from my wife on that. I like the idea of a new set of chisels. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT in defense of changing gear
On 2/23/2013 20:31, Rob Studdert wrote: On 24 February 2013 12:21, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: Isn't that what this guy's point was, actually? (I just read the quote below , not the blog) I read the blog and to be honest I'm not sure what his point is. Mine is just that familiarity with the equipment allows you to make a greater part of your picture taking the creative component. Cheers, I agree with you there... I was just teasing you about the syntax in those quotes... cheers back, a -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT in defense of changing gear
On 2/23/2013 21:37, Darren Addy wrote: I would suggest that one is changing tools each time one selects a different lens. Other interpretations spring to mind as well - NSFW ones :-) (ann ducks) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT in defense of changing gear
In my favorite Soviet interpretation of Dumas' Three Musketeers, Porthos when asked why he fights responds I fight, because I fight!. IMO, that's the reason enough for occasional change of gear. Boris (1500 unread messages in his PDML folder) On 2/24/2013 12:00 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: Just in case you need to convince The Bank about why you need that K-5, or you need to justify to the PDML why you sold all your Pentax gear, here's Kirk Tuck with some good words: The brain stays flexible as long as you challenge it. I can think of nothing less challenging than to use the same tools to do the same craft over and over again in the same way. http://visualsciencelab.blogspot.ca/2013/02/anatomy-of-friendly-portrait-session.html -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Windows 8 is Horseshit.
Bill, honestly, you're not that old and I am most certain that you can actually master this thing completely... On 2/21/2013 4:15 AM, Bill wrote: OK, so I got that out of the way. I just bought my wife a new laptop, which unfortunately came with Win 8 installed. To say it licks donkey balls is being both kind to it, and unkind to donkey balls lickers, who are not so bad when compared to Windows 8. It is a crap spewing, drowning us in chunky wet vomit, puerile, golden shower of an operating system. I just cannot say enough bad about Windows 8 to get my point across about just what an abomination it is, and those of you who have been on this list for more than a bakers dozen years are well aware of just how much bad stuff I can say about things that annoy me. I must get rid of it, and soon. Help me. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Got caught by the green button
Shite... I often turns control wheels on the grip when I handle my K-5. Not always though I notice that soon enough. Annoys me greatly... On 2/23/2013 3:26 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: Damn, I attended a free studio workshop today, we had a three flash setup with two models and I had set the k5 to manual according to the flash setup. I had the grip on and hit the green button instead of the AF button which by default reset my settings to the accommodate the ambient light conditions. As there were a lot of people there it was fast paced (about 2-3 mins shooting time) I missed the change until it was too late so a lot of shots are quite blown out. Suffice to say I've now disabled the green button in manual mode which until this particular session had never been a real issue. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Film Day 2
Isn't it refreshing and liberating not to worry about the dynamic range, the pixel count, the signal to noise ratio and white balance settings, Paul? You certainly still got it! Boris On 2/22/2013 8:33 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Cranbrook Manor, an Albert Kahn creation, built in 1908. Again, the Leica iiif RD and Summicron 2.0. This lens is not as contrasty as contemporary glass, and the colors are not as saturated. While I adjust the levels, I resist plussing the midrange contrast extensively or increasing saturation. It's a fifties film look. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16959353size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: 1975 Kodachrome
Projection is one of the things I miss about film. I used to project my kodachrome 64 slides to great effect. Today no 16 MP digital projectors are even available let alone affordable. A nice ektagraphic slide projector was only a few hundred bucks. The other benefit was shooting slides was cheaper than prints... - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bill Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 11:15 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: 1975 Kodachrome On 23/02/2013 8:40 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: That doesn't look faded in the least. I guess its true. Kodachrome lasts forever. I never liked the color personally though. The highlight retention always surprises me in film after looking at digital for so long now. Cool shot btw. Kodachrome has excellent dark storage stability, but terrible fading problems when exposed to bright light. Kodachromes that were projected a lot had a habit of fading. IIRC, Henry Wilhelm was able to measure fading in Kodachrome after as little as an hour of projection. Ektachrome, OTOH, had much better behaviour when projected, but some had terrible dark storage. My father was an avid slide film shooter, but not a great photographer. Perhaps he thought that projecting them bigger made them better, I don't know. He made us sit through interminable boring slide shows. But I digress. The point of this, if I can ever find it When we cleaned out my parent's house in 2002, I came across my dad's slides, and went through them. All of the Kodachromes were in good shape, only showing what I would consider projection fading. A lot of the Ektachromes, however, had faded completely clear, and everything from when he started shooting Ektachrome in the early 60s was showing pretty severe fading. All the slides I was paying attention to were from the mid 1950s to the late 1960s. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Windows 8 is Horseshit.
Reminds me of the movie Castaway and Wilson the ball, given the options he made a good friend. I suppose Windows 8 has that sort of potential too, if one were lost on a desert island and for some reason needed a computer and that was all that was available. Thank dog there are other options and reasonable rescue shells. On 24 February 2013 15:33, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Bill, honestly, you're not that old and I am most certain that you can actually master this thing completely... On 2/21/2013 4:15 AM, Bill wrote: OK, so I got that out of the way. I just bought my wife a new laptop, which unfortunately came with Win 8 installed. To say it licks donkey balls is being both kind to it, and unkind to donkey balls lickers, who are not so bad when compared to Windows 8. It is a crap spewing, drowning us in chunky wet vomit, puerile, golden shower of an operating system. I just cannot say enough bad about Windows 8 to get my point across about just what an abomination it is, and those of you who have been on this list for more than a bakers dozen years are well aware of just how much bad stuff I can say about things that annoy me. I must get rid of it, and soon. Help me. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Breaching Whale
Quite a critter... Wonderful photograph, Dan! On 2/22/2013 9:49 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: I ran into this critter this afternoon: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16957553 Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 1975 Kodachrome
Bill, I've seen the same here with my Dad's stuff. Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 10:15 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 23/02/2013 8:40 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: That doesn't look faded in the least. I guess its true. Kodachrome lasts forever. I never liked the color personally though. The highlight retention always surprises me in film after looking at digital for so long now. Cool shot btw. Kodachrome has excellent dark storage stability, but terrible fading problems when exposed to bright light. Kodachromes that were projected a lot had a habit of fading. IIRC, Henry Wilhelm was able to measure fading in Kodachrome after as little as an hour of projection. Ektachrome, OTOH, had much better behaviour when projected, but some had terrible dark storage. My father was an avid slide film shooter, but not a great photographer. Perhaps he thought that projecting them bigger made them better, I don't know. He made us sit through interminable boring slide shows. But I digress. The point of this, if I can ever find it When we cleaned out my parent's house in 2002, I came across my dad's slides, and went through them. All of the Kodachromes were in good shape, only showing what I would consider projection fading. A lot of the Ektachromes, however, had faded completely clear, and everything from when he started shooting Ektachrome in the early 60s was showing pretty severe fading. All the slides I was paying attention to were from the mid 1950s to the late 1960s. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 1975 Kodachrome
I didn't realize the ektachromes would fade that much. I have seem ones that were still in ok shape, but were certainly more recent than the 50s. To fade perfectly clear is pretty awful. Sorry to hear that actually. On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 11:15 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 23/02/2013 8:40 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: That doesn't look faded in the least. I guess its true. Kodachrome lasts forever. I never liked the color personally though. The highlight retention always surprises me in film after looking at digital for so long now. Cool shot btw. Kodachrome has excellent dark storage stability, but terrible fading problems when exposed to bright light. Kodachromes that were projected a lot had a habit of fading. IIRC, Henry Wilhelm was able to measure fading in Kodachrome after as little as an hour of projection. Ektachrome, OTOH, had much better behaviour when projected, but some had terrible dark storage. My father was an avid slide film shooter, but not a great photographer. Perhaps he thought that projecting them bigger made them better, I don't know. He made us sit through interminable boring slide shows. But I digress. The point of this, if I can ever find it When we cleaned out my parent's house in 2002, I came across my dad's slides, and went through them. All of the Kodachromes were in good shape, only showing what I would consider projection fading. A lot of the Ektachromes, however, had faded completely clear, and everything from when he started shooting Ektachrome in the early 60s was showing pretty severe fading. All the slides I was paying attention to were from the mid 1950s to the late 1960s. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Japan rumors: 24MP K-3 in April, 645Dii in June
On 2/22/2013 2:04 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: This all brings to mind the often-quoted: The difference between theory and practice is greater in practice than in theory. I've pixel-peeped all the K-5IIs hi-rez images I could find, compared them to the same scene shot on fully-AA'ed machines where available and have come to the conclusion that the K-5IIs is entirely made of win. For my purposes shots from the K-5IIs exceed the useful resolution of the Canon 5d Mk II, a standard in the portrait and fashion shooting biz. Moire was also a non-issue. I expect the K-3 (?) 24 Mpx body to have much additional win poured into it. Martin Dopplebauer's painfully twisted knickers notwithstanding. Bruce, K-5IIs is made of win unless you have K-5. Then it is made of dear customer, give me your money just because I'm Pentax. I much rather Pentax invented in making an image processing engine similar to that in my 50mm Ricoh GXR module... I will be posting PESOs soon to illustrate my point... Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Japan rumors: 24MP K-3 in April, 645Dii in June
From what I've read about new Nikon camera (D7100, isn't it?), its sensor is made by Toshiba and not Sony. In fact, although probably convenient to Pentax, this arrangement with 1/2 year delay between OEM introduction and availability to Pentax is probably doing Pentax serious harm on the marketplace. It is because, in my personal view. it makes Pentax appear me-too and way after the surprise/novelty factor of fresh sensor introduced to the market place subsides... Just my two cents. On 2/21/2013 10:30 PM, Darren Addy wrote: This is apparently from the March issue of Nippon magazine (pg 179) Google translation of discussion thread. http://translate.google.com/translate?twu=1?sl=jatl=enu=http%3A//s.kakaku.com/bbs/K416049/SortID%3D15794099/ or http://goo.gl/No5uD The translation is hard enough to read. But the K-3 introduction in April would be in line with what was rumored earlier, that Sony needed 6 months lead time in the market for the 24MP sensor that Pentax will be getting more out of than Sony did. : ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Windows 8 is Horseshit.
Paul, Not free here in Anahiem unless your an HHHonors Gold or Platinum(?) member. I've seen the same in Boston where the big hotels are gouging for internet service. Ticks me off when I know it's free almost everywhere along the interstate motels. Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Paul Sorenson pentax1...@gmail.com wrote: Hmmm. In what way was the internet not free? I'm an HHonors member and the few times I've stayed there's not been a problem with free internet service. Is it just up to the individual hotels to make that decision? -p On 2/23/2013 1:49 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Speaking of Horseshit, I have another nomination. I'm staying in a Hilton hotel tonight. As an HH Honors member they seemed to offer free internet. (Most every motel on the interstate highway offers free internet.) On closer inspection, not really free at Hilton. No problem says I, the alternative is free to ATT customers. So I try that option, not quite. We need your ATT address and password. That I don't really remember, but with a cell phone call they help me with my address. Can't do anything about the password though. Have to call this other number for that. So I call. While a black man with poor English was helpful on the first call, the oriental woman on the second call was unbelievable! First, she has an unintelliginle accent - very poor Engllish language pronounciation. Second, she's talking so fast, I can't make out what she is saying. (And I've got a pretty good ear for it after my share of 3 hour conf calls to China.) Third, everything she says is clipped. It is being dropped by the cellphone connection. And fourth and most infuriating, she isn't listening! I say something and she launches into a 25 second sing-song monologue. I talk over her, but she just continues to speak.. I tell her to listen, but she doesn't. I tell her she is not conversing with me. I tell her I can't understand what she is saying. I tell her she has poor language skills. She continues to ask me about irrelevant questions. I finally give up and just start guessing at my password. I make a good guess and get signed on, after 30 minutes of horseshit. ATT blows dead bears. Now how do I get ATT to hear this? Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 1:11 AM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 22/02/2013 12:10 PM, Walt wrote: On 2/21/2013 7:51 PM, Bill wrote: On 20/02/2013 8:18 PM, Walt wrote: On 2/20/2013 8:15 PM, Bill wrote: OK, so I got that out of the way. I just bought my wife a new laptop, which unfortunately came with Win 8 installed. To say it licks donkey balls is being both kind to it, and unkind to donkey balls lickers, who are not so bad when compared to Windows 8. It is a crap spewing, drowning us in chunky wet vomit, puerile, golden shower of an operating system. I just cannot say enough bad about Windows 8 to get my point across about just what an abomination it is, and those of you who have been on this list for more than a bakers dozen years are well aware of just how much bad stuff I can say about things that annoy me. I must get rid of it, and soon. Help me. bill Untold millions share your pain. FWIW, here's what I did for the new desktop at work: http://www.classicshell.net Yup, that helped. Actually gives it the best of both worlds. Has the Win XP look and usability with all the progressive features of Win 8. Wife happy. Happy wife, happy life. I'm happy. Thanks Walt. bill Glad to help. Here's a long (23 minutes) video review with a litany of all that's wrong with it -- so far. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTYet-qf1jo -- Walt Yeah. That's pretty much it. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Being old doesn't seem so old now that I'm old. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Amazing survival story
I couldn't agree more with you, Godfrey. On 2/23/2013 3:13 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Amazing story. With all the other crap going on in the past few years taking our attention away, it's easy to forget that each of these catastrophes has its immediate, lasting, visceral effect on individual human lives. There is certainly magic in the world. G On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 7:08 PM, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote: I wouldn't normally post this but it's the 2nd anniversary today, and the first time I've seen this story. http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/8334256/Survival-against-the-odds Good reminder of what's really important. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: d7100 samples...
On 2/22/2013 5:23 PM, Darren Addy wrote: The spec that I was surprised by is that the ISO only goes to 6400. I'm spoiled, I guess. : ) Well, according to this (http://www.dpreview.com/previews/nikon-d7100/2) page, D7100's ISO goes all the way up to 25,600 (HI2). There is still a 1Ev difference between K-5's 51,200. Although at LO1 it does ISO 50 while K-5 mins out at ISO 80... My most recent experience with late evening shooting with my meager Ricoh (that tops off at ISO 3200, while I shoot at most at ISO 1600) that this discussion of who has the longer... erm, sorry, the bigger top ISO is of utter irrelevance to real life photography. What really spoils is that little lens that is attached to my Ricoh 50 mm module and the degree of matching between the lensor image processing engine and the lens. I couldn't get images as good as it comes up with from my Pentax gear. And mind you, I am not doing anything special - merely composing, pointing, steadying myself and releasing the shutter... Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Windows 8 is Horseshit.
The reason is that the big hotels attract business customers who are on expense accounts, while the smaller chains attract value conscious vacation/travel customers. On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 11:56 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Paul, Not free here in Anahiem unless your an HHHonors Gold or Platinum(?) member. I've seen the same in Boston where the big hotels are gouging for internet service. Ticks me off when I know it's free almost everywhere along the interstate motels. Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Paul Sorenson pentax1...@gmail.com wrote: Hmmm. In what way was the internet not free? I'm an HHonors member and the few times I've stayed there's not been a problem with free internet service. Is it just up to the individual hotels to make that decision? -p On 2/23/2013 1:49 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Speaking of Horseshit, I have another nomination. I'm staying in a Hilton hotel tonight. As an HH Honors member they seemed to offer free internet. (Most every motel on the interstate highway offers free internet.) On closer inspection, not really free at Hilton. No problem says I, the alternative is free to ATT customers. So I try that option, not quite. We need your ATT address and password. That I don't really remember, but with a cell phone call they help me with my address. Can't do anything about the password though. Have to call this other number for that. So I call. While a black man with poor English was helpful on the first call, the oriental woman on the second call was unbelievable! First, she has an unintelliginle accent - very poor Engllish language pronounciation. Second, she's talking so fast, I can't make out what she is saying. (And I've got a pretty good ear for it after my share of 3 hour conf calls to China.) Third, everything she says is clipped. It is being dropped by the cellphone connection. And fourth and most infuriating, she isn't listening! I say something and she launches into a 25 second sing-song monologue. I talk over her, but she just continues to speak.. I tell her to listen, but she doesn't. I tell her she is not conversing with me. I tell her I can't understand what she is saying. I tell her she has poor language skills. She continues to ask me about irrelevant questions. I finally give up and just start guessing at my password. I make a good guess and get signed on, after 30 minutes of horseshit. ATT blows dead bears. Now how do I get ATT to hear this? Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 1:11 AM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 22/02/2013 12:10 PM, Walt wrote: On 2/21/2013 7:51 PM, Bill wrote: On 20/02/2013 8:18 PM, Walt wrote: On 2/20/2013 8:15 PM, Bill wrote: OK, so I got that out of the way. I just bought my wife a new laptop, which unfortunately came with Win 8 installed. To say it licks donkey balls is being both kind to it, and unkind to donkey balls lickers, who are not so bad when compared to Windows 8. It is a crap spewing, drowning us in chunky wet vomit, puerile, golden shower of an operating system. I just cannot say enough bad about Windows 8 to get my point across about just what an abomination it is, and those of you who have been on this list for more than a bakers dozen years are well aware of just how much bad stuff I can say about things that annoy me. I must get rid of it, and soon. Help me. bill Untold millions share your pain. FWIW, here's what I did for the new desktop at work: http://www.classicshell.net Yup, that helped. Actually gives it the best of both worlds. Has the Win XP look and usability with all the progressive features of Win 8. Wife happy. Happy wife, happy life. I'm happy. Thanks Walt. bill Glad to help. Here's a long (23 minutes) video review with a litany of all that's wrong with it -- so far. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTYet-qf1jo -- Walt Yeah. That's pretty much it. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Being old doesn't seem so old now that I'm old. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- David Parsons Photography http://www.davidparsonsphoto.com Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: d7100 samples...
On 24 February 2013 16:26, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: My most recent experience with late evening shooting with my meager Ricoh (that tops off at ISO 3200, while I shoot at most at ISO 1600) that this discussion of who has the longer... erm, sorry, the bigger top ISO is of utter irrelevance to real life photography. Yes and no Boris, generally the more sensitive the camera the more usable it is at higher ISO. I'm sure that you wouldn't dreamed of shooting regularly at ISO1600 with sensors of two generations ago? -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A day for new introductions
On Feb 23, 2013, at 23:20 , Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: I was so dumbfounded to encounter another Pentax user that I just froze as he walked off. With very few exceptions, most people I encounter shooting Pentax (and it is RARE) are young women. I have no idea why that is. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Boris, 3 PESOs
Hi! From our recent walks in and outside of town... http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2013/02/2013-08-blooming-almonds.html http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2013/02/2013-09-shitty-fucking-attitude.html http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2013/02/2013-10-old-jaffa-alley.html BH comments are sought after, as usual. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: d7100 samples...
Im still using a *istDS and it sucks at anything over ISO800. I rarely take it off ISO200 for that reason. - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Rob Studdert Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 12:37 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: d7100 samples... On 24 February 2013 16:26, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: My most recent experience with late evening shooting with my meager Ricoh (that tops off at ISO 3200, while I shoot at most at ISO 1600) that this discussion of who has the longer... erm, sorry, the bigger top ISO is of utter irrelevance to real life photography. Yes and no Boris, generally the more sensitive the camera the more usable it is at higher ISO. I'm sure that you wouldn't dreamed of shooting regularly at ISO1600 with sensors of two generations ago? -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boris, 3 PESOs
Boris, 1st photo was downloading 56 items.(???) Doesn't seem reasonable. Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 11:45 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! From our recent walks in and outside of town... http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2013/02/2013-08-blooming-almonds.html http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2013/02/2013-09-shitty-fucking-attitude.html http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2013/02/2013-10-old-jaffa-alley.html BH comments are sought after, as usual. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Windows 8 is Horseshit.
Dave, And truck drivers and plenty of business travelers on smaller budgets. Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 11:33 PM, David Parsons parsons.da...@gmail.com wrote: The reason is that the big hotels attract business customers who are on expense accounts, while the smaller chains attract value conscious vacation/travel customers. On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 11:56 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Paul, Not free here in Anahiem unless your an HHHonors Gold or Platinum(?) member. I've seen the same in Boston where the big hotels are gouging for internet service. Ticks me off when I know it's free almost everywhere along the interstate motels. Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Paul Sorenson pentax1...@gmail.com wrote: Hmmm. In what way was the internet not free? I'm an HHonors member and the few times I've stayed there's not been a problem with free internet service. Is it just up to the individual hotels to make that decision? -p On 2/23/2013 1:49 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Speaking of Horseshit, I have another nomination. I'm staying in a Hilton hotel tonight. As an HH Honors member they seemed to offer free internet. (Most every motel on the interstate highway offers free internet.) On closer inspection, not really free at Hilton. No problem says I, the alternative is free to ATT customers. So I try that option, not quite. We need your ATT address and password. That I don't really remember, but with a cell phone call they help me with my address. Can't do anything about the password though. Have to call this other number for that. So I call. While a black man with poor English was helpful on the first call, the oriental woman on the second call was unbelievable! First, she has an unintelliginle accent - very poor Engllish language pronounciation. Second, she's talking so fast, I can't make out what she is saying. (And I've got a pretty good ear for it after my share of 3 hour conf calls to China.) Third, everything she says is clipped. It is being dropped by the cellphone connection. And fourth and most infuriating, she isn't listening! I say something and she launches into a 25 second sing-song monologue. I talk over her, but she just continues to speak.. I tell her to listen, but she doesn't. I tell her she is not conversing with me. I tell her I can't understand what she is saying. I tell her she has poor language skills. She continues to ask me about irrelevant questions. I finally give up and just start guessing at my password. I make a good guess and get signed on, after 30 minutes of horseshit. ATT blows dead bears. Now how do I get ATT to hear this? Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 1:11 AM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 22/02/2013 12:10 PM, Walt wrote: On 2/21/2013 7:51 PM, Bill wrote: On 20/02/2013 8:18 PM, Walt wrote: On 2/20/2013 8:15 PM, Bill wrote: OK, so I got that out of the way. I just bought my wife a new laptop, which unfortunately came with Win 8 installed. To say it licks donkey balls is being both kind to it, and unkind to donkey balls lickers, who are not so bad when compared to Windows 8. It is a crap spewing, drowning us in chunky wet vomit, puerile, golden shower of an operating system. I just cannot say enough bad about Windows 8 to get my point across about just what an abomination it is, and those of you who have been on this list for more than a bakers dozen years are well aware of just how much bad stuff I can say about things that annoy me. I must get rid of it, and soon. Help me. bill Untold millions share your pain. FWIW, here's what I did for the new desktop at work: http://www.classicshell.net Yup, that helped. Actually gives it the best of both worlds. Has the Win XP look and usability with all the progressive features of Win 8. Wife happy. Happy wife, happy life. I'm happy. Thanks Walt. bill Glad to help. Here's a long (23 minutes) video review with a litany of all that's wrong with it -- so far. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTYet-qf1jo -- Walt Yeah. That's pretty much it. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Being old doesn't seem so old now that I'm old. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- David Parsons Photography http://www.davidparsonsphoto.com Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net
Re: Boris, 3 PESOs
This is strange indeed. I've just tried to open the link on my cell phone and it was ok. I'm thinking that at least 35 or so items are thumbnails from the set of my blog followers. I wonder if other links exhibit the same behavior as the first one. Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com On February 24, 2013 7:50:12 AM Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Boris, 1st photo was downloading 56 items.(???) Doesn't seem reasonable. Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 11:45 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! From our recent walks in and outside of town... http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2013/02/2013-08-blooming-almonds.html http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2013/02/2013-09-shitty-fucking-attitude.html http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2013/02/2013-10-old-jaffa-alley.html BH comments are sought after, as usual. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
