Re: PESO - I See The Train A'Coming

[David Mann]

On Feb 24, 2013, at 6:40 AM, Bob W  wrote:

>> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Sessoms
>> 
>> You know, it's a sad commentary on the state of the world today that my
>> first thought was those people are standing right where some idiot can
>> push them out onto the tracks.
>> 
> 
> When I'm waiting for the tube I'm always very aware of who is around and
> behind me. It doesn't have to be deliberate - on a crowded platform it could
> happen accidentally.

I saw on TV recently a shot of a subway station somewhere where they had fully 
enclosed the platform with doors that match up with where the train stops 
(imagine like a horizontal elevator).  May have been the series about great 
cities hosted by Gryff Rhys Jones.  Something tells me it was Tokyo but I'm not 
sure.

It made me wonder why other cities haven't done this.

Cheers,
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Re: paw week 8--snow mound

[David Mann]

On Feb 24, 2013, at 11:26 AM, Christine Aguila  wrote:

> cheers, Christine
> http://www.caguila.com/paw2013/content/_IGP5554_large.html

I have an irresistible urge to climb it.

I like the green motif, too.

Cheers,
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Re: Film Day 3

[David Mann]

On Feb 24, 2013, at 6:06 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

> One is constantly involved with the ~camera~ and less on the photograph.

Too true, and a philosophy that's applicable to many other areas of life.

Cheers,
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Re: Boris, 3 PESOs

[Chris Mitchell]

Worked fine for me. SFA is fun and the alleyway is really nice.

Chris

On 24 February 2013 05:59, Boris Liberman  wrote:
> This is strange indeed. I've just tried to open the link on my cell phone
> and it was ok. I'm thinking that at least 35 or so items are thumbnails from
> the set of my blog followers.
>
> I wonder if other links exhibit the same behavior as the first one.
>
>
> Sent with AquaMail for Android
> http://www.aqua-mail.com
>
>
>
> On February 24, 2013 7:50:12 AM Bob Sullivan  wrote:
>>
>> Boris,
>> 1st photo was downloading 56 items.(???)
>> Doesn't seem reasonable.
>> Regards,  Bob S.
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 11:45 PM, Boris Liberman 
>> wrote:
>> > Hi!
>> >
>> > From our recent walks in and outside of town...
>> >
>> > http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2013/02/2013-08-blooming-almonds.html
>> >
>> >
>> > http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2013/02/2013-09-shitty-fucking-attitude.html
>> >
>> > http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2013/02/2013-10-old-jaffa-alley.html
>> >
>> > B&H comments are sought after, as usual.
>> >
>> > Boris
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Re: Windows 8 is Horseshit.

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On Feb 24, 2013, at 5:56 PM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:

> Paul,
> Not free here in Anahiem unless your an HHHonors Gold or Platinum(?) member.
> I've seen the same in Boston where the big hotels are gouging for
> internet service.
> Ticks me off when I know it's free almost everywhere along the
> interstate motels.

We have a USB data stick which we take whenever we travel domestically.  It's 
on a pay-as-you-go data plan so it doesn't cost us much.  But we do use it 
sparingly (eg no Youtube).

Cheers,
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Re: OT in defense of changing gear

[John Sessoms]

From: Rob Studdert

On 24 February 2013 12:21, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:


Isn't that what this guy's point was, actually?
(I just read the quote below , not the blog)


I read the blog and to be honest I'm not sure what his point is. Mine
is just that familiarity with the equipment allows you to make a
greater part of your picture taking the creative component.

Cheers,


I read it through it several times and I'm still not sure I understand, 
but ...


I think he's bored with the way he's doing things and wants to change 
up, yet he's finding it hard to break his established "rules" because 
they work.


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Re: Got caught by the green button

[John Sessoms]

From: Rob Studdert

On 24 February 2013 12:29, John Sessoms  wrote:

I know that there are some cameras where you have to lift the mode dial
slightly or hold down a release button before you can turn it to change the
settings. On the LX you had to hold down a button while you turned the dial
to change the exposure compensation (dial in the same location).


The K5 has a mode lock button at the top of the dial it easy to change
quickly if you're a contortionist.



Had to take a look at the K5 manual. That's exactly the kind of thing I
meant. Hold down the Mode Dial Lock to UN-lock the Mode Dial. They didn't
have a Mode Dial Lock on the K20D.

The K20D mode dial can get bumped & unintentionally changed. Doesn't
look like the Mode Dial Lock would be that much of a hassle. I rarely
want to change the Mode without looking at what I'm changing it to.


It wouldn't be that difficult for Pentax to include that kind of an
interlock on their next camera. Preventing e-dial creep would be a bit more
of a problem.


Wouldn't be too difficult, hel they can do it on washing machines, ie
hold exp comp and ISO buttons simultaneously for a second?


Or perhaps allow the green button to be programmed as a commit button.

Change the e-dial setting & the new setting "blinks" at you until you
press the green button to accept the change. If you don't push the green
button within 3 - 5 seconds the setting just returns to its previous value.

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RE: OT in defense of changing gear

[Bob W]

> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Mark C
[...]

> 
> Freud wrote about the narcissism of small differences - the idea that
> people with small differences can clash more than those with
> significant differences in their world view. When confronted with
> something similar to what you are familiar with the differences are
> exaggerated. When confronted with something totally difference, you
> actually see it as something different and thing differently about it.

Fuck Freud - Brian said it better:


B


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Re: Windows 8 is Horseshit

[John Sessoms]

I wonder why it is the expensive hotels don't offer free internet when 
all of the inexpensive ones do?


From: Bob Sullivan

Paul,
Not free here in Anahiem unless your an HHHonors Gold or Platinum(?) member.
I've seen the same in Boston where the big hotels are gouging for
internet service.
Ticks me off when I know it's free almost everywhere along the
interstate motels.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Paul Sorenson  wrote:

Hmmm.  In what way was the internet not free?  I'm an HHonors member and the
few times I've stayed there's not been a problem with free internet service.
Is it just up to the individual hotels to make that decision?

-p



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RE: PESO - I See The Train A'Coming

[Bob W]

> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of David Mann
> 
> > When I'm waiting for the tube I'm always very aware of who is around
> > and behind me. It doesn't have to be deliberate - on a crowded
> > platform it could happen accidentally.
> 
> I saw on TV recently a shot of a subway station somewhere where they
> had fully enclosed the platform with doors that match up with where the
> train stops (imagine like a horizontal elevator).  May have been the
> series about great cities hosted by Gryff Rhys Jones.  Something tells
> me it was Tokyo but I'm not sure.
> 
> It made me wonder why other cities haven't done this.
> 

the Moscow underground is like that. In London the Jubilee Line from
Waterloo to Stratford (including my station at North Greenwich) is like that
too, but it's the most recent addition to the network.

B


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Got caught by the Green Button

[Bipin Gupta]

I have never accidentally hit the Green Button, either in the K20D or
the K-5. But yes I have nudged the eDials. This causes some headache
as I have set the Front eDial to ISO on all modes.
By the way, I have noticed the Focus Mode switch sometimes change from
AF-S to AF-C or MF when pulling the camera out of the Bag.
I shoot mostly JPEG (the JPEG output is better from the camera than
RAW PPd in Photoshop or PDCU) so sometimes I tend to hit the RAW/Fx
Button changing the capture to RAW+JPEG.
The lock on the mode dial is a welcome change on the K-5.
And Bill the Tape on the dials is a good idea, but it leaves behind
some 'GOO" that is hard to clean up. Messy & sticky too.
Regards. Bipin - from that far away enchanting land

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Re: 1975 Kodachrome

[Paul Stenquist]

Yes, the scanner is amazingly good. Better than I could have hoped for at that 
price or even twice as much.

On Feb 23, 2013, at 11:15 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:

> 
> 
> On 2/23/2013 21:16, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> A shot of my race car on the jack and ready to be warmed  in the pits. 
>> Notice how I didn't bother to close the doors on the car hauler behind it. 
>> But I was more into the racing than the photography back then.
>> 
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16963159&size=lg
>> 
>> Having a lot of fun scanning old transparencies with the new Epson 500V. 
>> Most of my Kodachromes are as good as new. They've been stored in plastic 
>> sleeves for the last twenty years. In the Kodak boxes for the preceding 
>> twenty or so years.
>> 
>> Paul
>> 
> 
> ah so  you got it!  .. great scanner isnt it?  My Kodachromes from back then 
> are fine as well - lasted better than Agfacrhomes from the 60's. and the 
> ektachromes didn't always fare so well.  My chromes are in boxes in metal 
> cabinets and some in archival sleeves.
> 
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Re: PESO - Film Day 2

[Paul Stenquist]

Thanks Boris. It is fun. Have to finish a roll of 120 in the Agfa folder today.

On Feb 23, 2013, at 11:35 PM, Boris Liberman  wrote:

> Isn't it refreshing and liberating not to worry about the dynamic range, the 
> pixel count, the signal to noise ratio and white balance settings, Paul?
> 
> You certainly still got it!
> 
> Boris
> 
> 
> On 2/22/2013 8:33 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> Cranbrook Manor, an Albert Kahn creation, built in 1908.
>> 
>> Again, the Leica iiif RD and Summicron 2.0. This lens is not as
>> contrasty as contemporary glass, and the colors are not as saturated.
>> While I adjust the levels, I resist plussing the midrange contrast
>> extensively or increasing saturation. It's a fifties film look.
>> 
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16959353&size=lg
>> 
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Re: Boris, 3 PESOs

[Jack Davis]

Old Jafa Allay has a pleasing feel to it. DOF and lighting very well done.
Blooming Almonds point of focus is allusive.
The other one defies comment.

Jack


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Hi!

>From our recent walks in and outside of town...

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2013/02/2013-08-blooming-almonds.html

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2013/02/2013-09-shitty-fucking-attitude.html

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2013/02/2013-10-old-jaffa-alley.html

B&H comments are sought after, as usual.

Boris

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Ektachrome, 1978

[Paul Stenquist]

Here's a 1978 Ektachorme that has largely resisted fading although it was 
stored in the dark. I should add that some of the Ektachromes that I shot with 
my Brownie Starflash in the fifties have faded a lot. This shot was taken for J 
Walter Thompson, and it was probably my first paid photo assignment that wasn't 
part of a journalism job. I used my Vivitar 20mm 3.5, which wasn't very sharp, 
but I probably had it stopped way down in back. That's my undergrad alma mater, 
Roosevelt University in the background. Brooksie spent some time there as well. 
It's in Adler and Sullivan's late 19th century Auditorium Hotel building. The 
building next door -- I think it's called the Fine Arts Building -- is even 
older. Back then it housed the Studebaker Theater and a coffee shop on the 
lower level frequented by students and the artsy set. The race car is a jet 
powered dragster with some nice body work by an aluminum craftsman named Lee 
Austin.

I suspect Ektachromes formula changed over the years. I think all of mine from 
the seventies are in good shape. (I know the processing chemicals changed in 
the mid seventies from E4 to E6.) Gamma Labs on the west end of downtown 
Chicago processed all of mine.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16963163&size=lg
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Re: 1975 Kodachrome

[Paul Sorenson]

Glad to hear a good report on the scanner. I ordered mine last Wednesday and 
found out Friday that they're out of stock already. Won't be shipped until 
Tuesday.  : > (

-p

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 24, 2013, at 6:33 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:

> Yes, the scanner is amazingly good. Better than I could have hoped for at 
> that price or even twice as much.
> 
> On Feb 23, 2013, at 11:15 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 2/23/2013 21:16, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>>> A shot of my race car on the jack and ready to be warmed  in the pits. 
>>> Notice how I didn't bother to close the doors on the car hauler behind it. 
>>> But I was more into the racing than the photography back then.
>>> 
>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16963159&size=lg
>>> 
>>> Having a lot of fun scanning old transparencies with the new Epson 500V. 
>>> Most of my Kodachromes are as good as new. They've been stored in plastic 
>>> sleeves for the last twenty years. In the Kodak boxes for the preceding 
>>> twenty or so years.
>>> 
>>> Paul
>>> 
>> 
>> ah so  you got it!  .. great scanner isnt it?  My Kodachromes from back then 
>> are fine as well - lasted better than Agfacrhomes from the 60's. and the 
>> ektachromes didn't always fare so well.  My chromes are in boxes in metal 
>> cabinets and some in archival sleeves.
>> 
>> ann
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Re: Ektachrome, 1978

[Zos Xavius]

Cool shot. I want a jet powered dragster!

On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 7:47 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> Here's a 1978 Ektachorme that has largely resisted fading although it was 
> stored in the dark. I should add that some of the Ektachromes that I shot 
> with my Brownie Starflash in the fifties have faded a lot. This shot was 
> taken for J Walter Thompson, and it was probably my first paid photo 
> assignment that wasn't part of a journalism job. I used my Vivitar 20mm 3.5, 
> which wasn't very sharp, but I probably had it stopped way down in back. 
> That's my undergrad alma mater, Roosevelt University in the background. 
> Brooksie spent some time there as well. It's in Adler and Sullivan's late 
> 19th century Auditorium Hotel building. The building next door -- I think 
> it's called the Fine Arts Building -- is even older. Back then it housed the 
> Studebaker Theater and a coffee shop on the lower level frequented by 
> students and the artsy set. The race car is a jet powered dragster with some 
> nice body work by an aluminum craftsman named Lee Austin.
>
> I suspect Ektachromes formula changed over the years. I think all of mine 
> from the seventies are in good shape. (I know the processing chemicals 
> changed in the mid seventies from E4 to E6.) Gamma Labs on the west end of 
> downtown Chicago processed all of mine.
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16963163&size=lg
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Re: Windows 8 is Horseshit.

[Bob Sullivan]

Free WiFi internet access is common here in the USA.
McDonalds, Starbucks, and almost all motels/hotels have it free.
Yes, when the small town library closes,
the kids move over to the McD's to finish their school projects.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 2:48 AM, David Mann  wrote:
> On Feb 24, 2013, at 5:56 PM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
>
>> Paul,
>> Not free here in Anahiem unless your an HHHonors Gold or Platinum(?) member.
>> I've seen the same in Boston where the big hotels are gouging for
>> internet service.
>> Ticks me off when I know it's free almost everywhere along the
>> interstate motels.
>
> We have a USB data stick which we take whenever we travel domestically.  It's 
> on a pay-as-you-go data plan so it doesn't cost us much.  But we do use it 
> sparingly (eg no Youtube).
>
> Cheers,
> Dave
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Re: PESO - I See The Train A'Coming

[John Sessoms]

From: David Mann


On Feb 24, 2013, at 6:40 AM, Bob W  wrote:


From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Sessoms

You know, it's a sad commentary on the state of the world today that my
first thought was those people are standing right where some idiot can
push them out onto the tracks.



When I'm waiting for the tube I'm always very aware of who is around and
behind me. It doesn't have to be deliberate - on a crowded platform it could
happen accidentally.


I saw on TV recently a shot of a subway station somewhere where they
had fully enclosed the platform with doors that match up with where
the train stops (imagine like a horizontal elevator).  May have been
the series about great cities hosted by Gryff Rhys Jones.  Something
tells me it was Tokyo but I'm not sure.

It made me wonder why other cities haven't done this.

Cheers,
Dave


The subways in Hong Kong and Beijing both had those kind of barriers. I 
can't remember if Nanjing had them or not, but I think they did.


It would probably be *very* expensive to retro-fit them to existing 
systems. You not only have to install the door mechanism, but find some 
way to make the trains stop in exactly the right spot every time so they 
line up with the doors.


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Re: paw week 8--snow mound

[Bob Sullivan]

Christine,
Nice catch!
The green cast is a bit over the top.
But the isolation of the machine against the snow is perfect.
The pedestrian is a plus too.
I keep looking for the driver.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 2:29 AM, David Mann  wrote:
> On Feb 24, 2013, at 11:26 AM, Christine Aguila  wrote:
>
>> cheers, Christine
>> http://www.caguila.com/paw2013/content/_IGP5554_large.html
>
> I have an irresistible urge to climb it.
>
> I like the green motif, too.
>
> Cheers,
> Dave
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Re: Ektachrome, 1978

[Bob Sullivan]

Cool photo Paul, and I recognize the site!
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 6:47 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> Here's a 1978 Ektachorme that has largely resisted fading although it was 
> stored in the dark. I should add that some of the Ektachromes that I shot 
> with my Brownie Starflash in the fifties have faded a lot. This shot was 
> taken for J Walter Thompson, and it was probably my first paid photo 
> assignment that wasn't part of a journalism job. I used my Vivitar 20mm 3.5, 
> which wasn't very sharp, but I probably had it stopped way down in back. 
> That's my undergrad alma mater, Roosevelt University in the background. 
> Brooksie spent some time there as well. It's in Adler and Sullivan's late 
> 19th century Auditorium Hotel building. The building next door -- I think 
> it's called the Fine Arts Building -- is even older. Back then it housed the 
> Studebaker Theater and a coffee shop on the lower level frequented by 
> students and the artsy set. The race car is a jet powered dragster with some 
> nice body work by an aluminum craftsman named Lee Austin.
>
> I suspect Ektachromes formula changed over the years. I think all of mine 
> from the seventies are in good shape. (I know the processing chemicals 
> changed in the mid seventies from E4 to E6.) Gamma Labs on the west end of 
> downtown Chicago processed all of mine.
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Re: d7100 samples...

[Bill]

On 23/02/2013 11:43 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote:

Im still using a *istDS and it sucks at anything over ISO800.
I rarely take it off ISO200 for that reason.

I still have a hard time with that. Up until the K5, I haven't wanted to 
take a Pentax DSLR over ISO 640. I keep having to remind myself that I 
can spin the ISO to 3200 with no worries, and higher still if I am 
needing to and get good results.

If you need higher ISOs a K5 might be a good investment for you.
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Re: Got caught by the Green Button

[Bill]

On 24/02/2013 4:25 AM, Bipin Gupta wrote:

And Bill the Tape on the dials is a good idea, but it leaves behind
some 'GOO" that is hard to clean up. Messy & sticky too.
Regards. Bipin - from that far away enchanting land

Green painters tape. It sticks well enough to get through a shoot, and 
is residue free.

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Re: OT in defense of changing gear

[Bruce Walker]

Zos, I agree with your reasons for not changing gear, yet I also
sympathize with Tuck's reasons for doing the opposite. I think he
recognizes the trade-offs in his suggestion.

Even after 5 years of fairly frequent shooting (some 40K frames) I
have still not developed complete muscle memory for my tools. I've
been shooting with a K20D for the bulk of that time, and I would not
look kindly on changing that body to something significantly different
as I'd have to go through the fumbling around phase once again. So I'm
not looking to switch up equipment just to give myself a kick. I don't
need to ... yet.

But I can see reaching a point one day where I'm so familiar with my
toolset that it could become a tedium. Tuck, as a commercial food,
headshot and product photographer shoots orders of magnitude more that
me and has been doing it for a few decades. He could shoot corporate
headshots in his sleep, and that may in fact be just about what
happens when you reach that point in your life. Job comes in: no
problem, cookie-cutter task. Take trusty camera with fave lens, setup
bog standard lighting arrangement; click. Result? Perfectly fine but
boring shot. Cash cheque. Thanks.

Some would see that as just fine: guaranteed income. Go home and watch
TV in the evenings.

But many, like me and apparently Tuck, see it as uncreative
repetition. Soulless and unfulfilling. So what to do? Well for
starters: wake up!! Maybe some can mentally kick themselves and get
out of a rut, but lots of us need an external stimulus. Wholesale or
partial renewal of gear would definitely do that for me.

So Kirk Tuck's suggestion isn't for everyone. It works for him though.


On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 10:05 PM, Zos Xavius  wrote:
> I like the pentax cameras because they fit like a glove. I fingers
> know where everything is and what they make accessible are the
> functions I need most (ISO, EV, etc). I've used canons and nikons and
> I hate their ergonomics. I love that I can do about everything one
> handed..even change the white balance. (take that d7000!) I think that
> makes for better pictures because the camera just becomes a natural
> extension of me. I'm not constantly fighting it to get what I want out
> of it. It becomes transparent. I think there is something about that.
> I don't see the point in moving to an alien system and having to
> readjust just for the sheer challenge of it. If anything, you should
> be challenging your brain to take better pictures. The more you know
> your gear intimately, the easier it will be for you to be more
> creative. That's a fact if you ask me. If you aren't challenging
> yourself to try new things you aren't progressing.
>
> "People think I change gear because I'm in love with the gear. I
> really change it because the only way to stay fresh and relevant to
> yourself and the process is to keep growing and keep questioning. I
> have the advantage of being able to look back and see how we used to
> do it long enough ago to see the stark contrast between the days of
> hypercontrolled and stiff photography that comprised the art when I
> started out in the commercial field. It's totally different today and
> the same old tools don't necessarily apply."
>
> This paragraph struck me as being rather flawed. By this logic Cartier
> Bersson would have been a much better photographer if he changed
> lenses or bought an SLR. Or O Winston Link never grew as a
> photographer because he always used view cameraas. If that isn't a
> load of BS, I don't know what is. You should chose your equipment
> because it suits the purpose you are trying to achieve not because you
> want a challenge. If all you need is an all manual rangefinder and a
> 50mm lens then I don't see anything wrong with that. I'm very much ok
> with just a couple of primes.
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Re: Geso Annual snow golf random photos

[Bob Sullivan]

Dave,
Looks like a fun outing.
The first pictures made me think you were
shooting in a Canadian version of Starbucks.
But then you got out into the snow.
Always enjoy the shots with the balls in the air.
And the hockey sticks are legal clubs?
I also noticed a Gentleman tastefully atired in a Blackhawks Indian
Head Sweater.
Go Hawks!
Regards,  Bob S.

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> http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2013-snowgolf/album/index.html
>
> Held this past Saturday, a week later than normal cause we only got
> snow last week.:-)
>
> Unadjusted low res jpg's copied pt jalbum for display purposes
>
> D200, 18-70, SB800 flash
>
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Re: 1975 Kodachrome

[Bill]

On 23/02/2013 10:49 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

Bill,
I've seen the same here with my Dad's stuff.
I think it's the E-2 and E-4 process films that are suffering the worst. 
E-6 was released in 1977, and seems to be quite a bit more stable.


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Re: OT in defense of changing gear

[Bill]

On 24/02/2013 10:08 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

But I can see reaching a point one day where I'm so familiar with my
toolset that it could become a tedium. Tuck, as a commercial food,
headshot and product photographer shoots orders of magnitude more that
me and has been doing it for a few decades. He could shoot corporate
headshots in his sleep, and that may in fact be just about what
happens when you reach that point in your life. Job comes in: no
problem, cookie-cutter task. Take trusty camera with fave lens, setup
bog standard lighting arrangement; click. Result? Perfectly fine but
boring shot. Cash cheque. Thanks.
Buy all new equipment, and those jobs that used to be cookie cutter are 
still cookie cutter, but with the added element of surprise if you miss 
a setting on your new gear and bugger something up. So much for that client.


If you want excitement in your life go find yourself a mistress half 
your age.


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GESO - Experiments with X-ray optics

[Jostein Øksne]

http://www.alunfoto.no/temp/heligontest/index.html

I have purchased an old optic from an X-ray machine, a Rodenstock 100mm 
f/1.6.


First I tried it on the 645D, just holding it before the bayonet to see if 
there was any vignetting. There wasn't! So the image circle is quite decent. 
The image of the rotten plant is shot with this combo. I think the OOF 
rendering is quite interesting and look forward to play more with this 
setup.


Then I scavenged an old and broken Pentax-A 50mm f/1.7. I picked out all the 
optical elements and mounted the Rodenstock into the focusing helicoid using 
generous amounts of gaffatape. The other two images are produced with this 
setup. The "jesus-light" image at f/2.8, the daisies at f/8.


To have the iris behind all the optical elements like this is probably all 
wrong from a theoretical perspective, and the true size of the aperture is 
probably not as advertised. Yet I must say I like the results.


As the "jesus-light" image shows, the lens comes with an odd compliment of 
internal reflections. I believe it can be used to good effect on occasion.


Cheers,
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RE: PESO - I See The Train A'Coming

[Bob W]

> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Sessoms
[...]
> >
> > I saw on TV recently a shot of a subway station somewhere where they
> > had fully enclosed the platform with doors that match up with where
> > the train stops (imagine like a horizontal elevator).  May have been
> > the series about great cities hosted by Gryff Rhys Jones.  Something
> > tells me it was Tokyo but I'm not sure.
> >
> > It made me wonder why other cities haven't done this.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Dave
> 
> The subways in Hong Kong and Beijing both had those kind of barriers. I
> can't remember if Nanjing had them or not, but I think they did.
> 
> It would probably be *very* expensive to retro-fit them to existing
> systems. You not only have to install the door mechanism, but find some
> way to make the trains stop in exactly the right spot every time so
> they line up with the doors.

I don't think it would be particularly difficult. The trains have to stop in
more or less the same place anyway, and regulars get to know where the doors
are. 

When they built the Jubilee Line extension here a few years ago they put
platform doors on at the new stations, but the old stations still don't have
them, so there is a mixture on the one line. For a few weeks after the new
ones opened there was the occasional delay while they lined the trains up,
but that was just teething trouble, presumably until they got the tolerances
right and all the drivers fully trained. 

It's far more convenient than having unpredictable delays and line closures
because some selfish sod has thrown themself in front of a train.

B


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RE: Windows 8 is Horseshit.

[Bob W]

> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bob Sullivan
> 
> Free WiFi internet access is common here in the USA.
> McDonalds, Starbucks, and almost all motels/hotels have it free.
> Yes, when the small town library closes, the kids move over to the
> McD's to finish their school projects.
> Regards,  Bob S.

Proof categorical that school work leads to bad health in later years. They
should be out in the fresh air getting up to no good.

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Re: d7100 samples...

[Zos Xavius]

I used my k-7 regularly at 800, but there was a noticeable loss of
quality. I have more than a few that I shot at 1600 that turned out
ok, but I don't know if I would try to print them poster sized. For
people shots and coverage, 1600 was fine for just web and 8x10s
especially. With the k-5, iso 1600 looks amazingly good. Better than
iso 800 on the k-7. 3200 has some grain, but in a pleasing way imo and
black and white conversions look good...especially with silver efex. I
was reluctant to use 6400, but when I started trying some portraits
with it more with black and white intent I was surprised. It looks
really darn good. I wanted a k-5 for a long time. I bought a used k-7
and took enough pictures to make some cash and I bought a k-5. I'm
pretty amazed at that sensor and what it can produce. I use a 5dmk2
for some stuff at work, and the shadow noise is really awful in
comparison. The greater DR helps a lot too. You really have to blow
the sky pretty hard to make it unrecoverable in raw. Best part is you
can just totally expose for the sky and push your shadows 2 or 3 stops
pretty easily without hardly any noise near base iso. On the flip side
I preferred the k-7's contrasty bite the files it produced had. it was
almost film-like in tonality to me. I liked the vibrant colors I got
off that sensor too, where the k-5 seems a tad bit more muted, or
maybe its just me. the k-7 seemed to nail tungsten WB better too.
anyone else ever notice that? the k-5 gets pretty warm and hot fast.

On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Bill  wrote:
> On 23/02/2013 11:43 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote:
>>
>> Im still using a *istDS and it sucks at anything over ISO800.
>> I rarely take it off ISO200 for that reason.
>>
> I still have a hard time with that. Up until the K5, I haven't wanted to
> take a Pentax DSLR over ISO 640. I keep having to remind myself that I can
> spin the ISO to 3200 with no worries, and higher still if I am needing to
> and get good results.
> If you need higher ISOs a K5 might be a good investment for you.
> bill
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Re: 1975 Kodachrome

[Zos Xavius]

Looking through these old film scans makes me want to get a MF film
camera even more. Heck a crown graphic would be a lot of fun too. :)

There's something about film that digital can't reproduce. I can't
wait to try my first roll of velvia. :)

On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 11:14 AM, Bill  wrote:
> On 23/02/2013 10:49 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
>>
>> Bill,
>> I've seen the same here with my Dad's stuff.
>
> I think it's the E-2 and E-4 process films that are suffering the worst. E-6
> was released in 1977, and seems to be quite a bit more stable.
>
>
> bill
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Re: OT in defense of changing gear

[Zos Xavius]

I want to play with different formats. I keep considering a m4/3
camera just because they are kind of neat little systems. Shame about
the cost of lenses there though and that's what keeps me from really
considering it. I've been shooting film just for the simple experience
of it, but it is somewhat limiting. I have portra 160 in my camera
now, and you really need some good light even with a fast 50 to get
portraits. So I keep carrying it, looking for those rare moments that
everything is right. I'm on frame 4 after a couple of weeks. My next
step when I come into some money is to buy some more lenses that I can
use on FF. I want to get a 67, but I'm going to have to wait a bit and
focus on rebuilding my kit. Too many lens problems and no backups is
making me kind of sad at the moment. I just don't think buying a new
camera for a different experience serves any purpose unless it gives
you a different format or some tangible benefit if it is the same
format. A camera is a tool. Pentax opened a world of lenses to me and
made old MF glass very accessible. I'm thinking it would be fun to get
an m42 adapter for my k-7 and just use screw mount lenses on it. They
sure are cheap. :)

On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Bill  wrote:
> On 24/02/2013 10:08 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>>
>> But I can see reaching a point one day where I'm so familiar with my
>> toolset that it could become a tedium. Tuck, as a commercial food,
>> headshot and product photographer shoots orders of magnitude more that
>> me and has been doing it for a few decades. He could shoot corporate
>> headshots in his sleep, and that may in fact be just about what
>> happens when you reach that point in your life. Job comes in: no
>> problem, cookie-cutter task. Take trusty camera with fave lens, setup
>> bog standard lighting arrangement; click. Result? Perfectly fine but
>> boring shot. Cash cheque. Thanks.
>
> Buy all new equipment, and those jobs that used to be cookie cutter are
> still cookie cutter, but with the added element of surprise if you miss a
> setting on your new gear and bugger something up. So much for that client.
>
> If you want excitement in your life go find yourself a mistress half your
> age.
>
> bill
>
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Re: Got caught by the Green Button

[Zos Xavius]

I think a simple lock would just be sufficient. Like that hold a
button down and the settings lock. Hold it down again and you can
twiddle away. Far more elegant than green tape. :)

You know for as much as I use the RAW button (which is never really),
this would be simple to assign a locking feature. Wouldn't that be
useful? Or jam the ISO and EV buttons together? Problem is that there
is no way of displaying the status of the lock in the viewfinder or
top LCD other than not being able to change settings.

On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Bill  wrote:
> On 24/02/2013 4:25 AM, Bipin Gupta wrote:
>>
>> And Bill the Tape on the dials is a good idea, but it leaves behind
>> some 'GOO" that is hard to clean up. Messy & sticky too.
>> Regards. Bipin - from that far away enchanting land
>>
> Green painters tape. It sticks well enough to get through a shoot, and is
> residue free.
> bill
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Re: OT in defense of changing gear

[Walt]

I wanted to go through the process/experience to, on one level, 
practice my craft but on another level to prove that a 56 year old 
photographer could bring a relevant vision to bear in the service of 
someone half his age. In effect I was trying to prove my own relevance 
to myself. 

Hmmm.

People think I change gear because I'm in love with the gear. I really 
change it because the only way to stay fresh and relevant to yourself 
and the process is to keep growing and keep questioning.
Well, I guess it's cheaper than buying a sports car and marrying a 
trophy wife.


I won't say he's completely wrong or that he's some kind of idiot. He's 
obviously been at it far longer than I have. But, personally, I find 
paying for whatever gear I get to be all the challenge I need.


-- Walt

On 2/23/2013 4:00 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Just in case you need to convince The Bank about why you need that
K-5, or you need to justify to the PDML why you sold all your Pentax
gear, here's Kirk Tuck with some good words:

"The brain stays flexible as long as you challenge it. I can think of
nothing less challenging than to use the same tools to do the same
craft over and over again in the same way."

http://visualsciencelab.blogspot.ca/2013/02/anatomy-of-friendly-portrait-session.html

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Re: Geso Annual snow golf random photos

[David J Brooks]

On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 11:14 AM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
> Dave,
> Looks like a fun outing.
> The first pictures made me think you were
> shooting in a Canadian version of Starbucks.
> But then you got out into the snow.
Our version of starbucks:-0


> Always enjoy the shots with the balls in the air.
> And the hockey sticks are legal clubs?

Anything goes as long as the ball is hit.

> I also noticed a Gentleman tastefully attired in a Blackhawks Indian

We also had a Toronto Maple Leaf sweater, you will not see any shots of him.:-)

> Head Sweater.
> Go Hawks!
> Regards,  Bob S.

Thanks Bob
>
> On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 7:04 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
>> http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2013-snowgolf/album/index.html
>>
>> Held this past Saturday, a week later than normal cause we only got
>> snow last week.:-)
>>
>> Unadjusted low res jpg's copied pt jalbum for display purposes
>>
>> D200, 18-70, SB800 flash
>>
>> Dave
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Re: K-5 Viewfinder Brightness

[Charles Robinson]

On Feb 24, 2013, at 7:55 , Bipin Gupta  wrote:

> I took out the Leica Film SLR today to give it some exercise and a warm
> sunlight bath. I attached the Tamron 28-200 Adaptal and looked thru the
> viewfinder. It definitely appeared brighter than the K-5s.
> So I put another Tamron 28-200 I have from my MZ-5n days, on the K-5.
> And lo & behold - the Leica's viewfinder WAS Brighter. No question.
> Both use Penta Prisms, and Pentax has always claimed they were the
> FIRST to use Penta Prisms in their SLRs.
> So what's happening here - an ancient Leica and the latest Pentax-Ricoh?

Look at the relative sizes of the focusing screens and realize that while each 
may have the same amount of light "per square centimeter" hitting them, one of 
them has a lot more area - which equals more light.

The smaller-sensor viewfinders CANNOT be as bright as a viewfinder with a 
larger focusing screen.. 

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Re: OT in defense of changing gear

[Bruce Walker]

On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Bill  wrote:
> On 24/02/2013 10:08 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>>
>> But I can see reaching a point one day where I'm so familiar with my
>> toolset that it could become a tedium. Tuck, as a commercial food,
>> headshot and product photographer shoots orders of magnitude more that
>> me and has been doing it for a few decades. He could shoot corporate
>> headshots in his sleep, and that may in fact be just about what
>> happens when you reach that point in your life. Job comes in: no
>> problem, cookie-cutter task. Take trusty camera with fave lens, setup
>> bog standard lighting arrangement; click. Result? Perfectly fine but
>> boring shot. Cash cheque. Thanks.
>
> Buy all new equipment, and those jobs that used to be cookie cutter are
> still cookie cutter, but with the added element of surprise if you miss a
> setting on your new gear and bugger something up. So much for that client.
>
> If you want excitement in your life go find yourself a mistress half your
> age.
>
> bill

Advice that seemed to work very well for old Ed Weston.

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Re: needs to get......

[Bruce Walker]

Just do it, Dave.

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>  Spyder 4 for my prints/.
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Re: Got caught by the Green Button

[Walt]

I've never hit the green button on accident, either.

I have hit the Live View button a few times while trying to switch focus 
points on the K-5, though.


-- Walt

On 2/24/2013 4:25 AM, Bipin Gupta wrote:

I have never accidentally hit the Green Button, either in the K20D or
the K-5. But yes I have nudged the eDials. This causes some headache
as I have set the Front eDial to ISO on all modes.
By the way, I have noticed the Focus Mode switch sometimes change from
AF-S to AF-C or MF when pulling the camera out of the Bag.
I shoot mostly JPEG (the JPEG output is better from the camera than
RAW PPd in Photoshop or PDCU) so sometimes I tend to hit the RAW/Fx
Button changing the capture to RAW+JPEG.
The lock on the mode dial is a welcome change on the K-5.
And Bill the Tape on the dials is a good idea, but it leaves behind
some 'GOO" that is hard to clean up. Messy & sticky too.
Regards. Bipin - from that far away enchanting land




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Re: Got caught by the green button

[Bruce Walker]

Yes! Happens to me too. e-dial creep from two places, and happens
frequently when switching to portrait from landscape or back.

Then there's that other grip gripe: if the e-dial on the body is
turned slightly off detent, (purposely) adjusting the grip e-dial has
no effect (or vice versa). G.

On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 11:34 PM, Boris Liberman  wrote:
> Shite... I often turns control wheels on the grip when I handle my K-5. Not
> always though I notice that soon enough. Annoys me greatly...
>
>
> On 2/23/2013 3:26 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:
>>
>> Damn, I attended a free studio workshop today, we had a three flash
>> setup with two models and I had set the k5 to manual according to the
>> flash setup. I had the grip on and hit the green button instead of the
>> AF button which by default reset my settings to the accommodate the
>> ambient light conditions. As there were a lot of people there it was
>> fast paced (about 2-3 mins shooting time) I missed the change until it
>> was too late so a lot of shots are quite blown out. Suffice to say
>> I've now disabled the green button in manual mode which until this
>> particular session had never been a real issue.
>>
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Re: 1975 Kodachrome

[Kenneth Waller]

nice documentary shot!

What class did it run in?

I recently went thru 25000+ slides from back in the 60's and edited out most 
down to a few hundred and need to scan those.


-Original Message-
>From: Paul Stenquist 
>Subject: 1975 Kodachrome
>
>A shot of my race car on the jack and ready to be warmed  in the pits. Notice 
>how I didn't bother to close the doors on the car hauler behind it. But I was 
>more into the racing than the photography back then. 
>
>http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16963159&size=lg
>
>Having a lot of fun scanning old transparencies with the new Epson 500V. Most 
>of my Kodachromes are as good as new. They've been stored in plastic sleeves 
>for the last twenty years. In the Kodak boxes for the preceding twenty or so 
>years.



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Re: needs to get......

[David J Brooks]

On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 12:33 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> Just do it, Dave.

Henrys is out at the moment:-(

Dave
>
> On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 9:16 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
>>  Spyder 4 for my prints/.
>>
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RE: 1975 Kodachrome

[Kenneth Waller]

Amen bro


-Original Message-
>From: "J.C. O'Connell" 
>Subject: RE: 1975 Kodachrome
>
>Projection is one of the things I miss about film. I used to project
>my kodachrome 64 slides to great effect. Today no 16 MP digital 
>projectors are even available let alone affordable. A nice ektagraphic
>slide projector was only a few hundred bucks. The other benefit was
>shooting slides was cheaper than prints...
>
>-
>J.C.O'Connell
>hifis...@gate.net
>-
>
>-Original Message-
>From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bill
>Subject: Re: 1975 Kodachrome
>
>On 23/02/2013 8:40 PM, Zos Xavius wrote:
>> That doesn't look faded in the least. I guess its true. Kodachrome
>> lasts forever. I never liked the color personally though. The
>> highlight retention always surprises me in film after looking at
>> digital for so long now. Cool shot btw.
>>
>Kodachrome has excellent dark storage stability, but terrible fading 
>problems when exposed to bright light. Kodachromes that were projected a 
>lot had a habit of fading. IIRC, Henry Wilhelm was able to measure 
>fading in Kodachrome after as little as an hour of projection.
>Ektachrome, OTOH, had much better behaviour when projected, but some had 
>terrible dark storage. My father was an avid slide film shooter, but not 
>a great photographer. Perhaps he thought that projecting them bigger 
>made them better, I don't know. He made us sit through interminable 
>boring slide shows.
>But I digress.
>The point of this, if I can ever find it
>When we cleaned out my parent's house in 2002, I came across my dad's 
>slides, and went through them. All of the Kodachromes were in good 
>shape, only showing what I would consider projection fading. A lot of 
>the Ektachromes, however, had faded completely clear, and everything 
>from when he started shooting Ektachrome in the early 60s was showing 
>pretty severe fading. All the slides I was paying attention to were from 
>the mid 1950s to the late 1960s.
>
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Re: Ektachrome, 1978

[Kenneth Waller]

Way nice,creative capture, love the way the background is rendered!


-Original Message-
>From: Paul Stenquist 

>Subject: Ektachrome, 1978
>
>Here's a 1978 Ektachorme that has largely resisted fading although it was 
>stored in the dark. I should add that some of the Ektachromes that I shot with 
>my Brownie Starflash in the fifties have faded a lot. This shot was taken for 
>J Walter Thompson, and it was probably my first paid photo assignment that 
>wasn't part of a journalism job. I used my Vivitar 20mm 3.5, which wasn't very 
>sharp, but I probably had it stopped way down in back. That's my undergrad 
>alma mater, Roosevelt University in the background. Brooksie spent some time 
>there as well. It's in Adler and Sullivan's late 19th century Auditorium Hotel 
>building. The building next door -- I think it's called the Fine Arts Building 
>-- is even older. Back then it housed the Studebaker Theater and a coffee shop 
>on the lower level frequented by students and the artsy set. The race car is a 
>jet powered dragster with some nice body work by an aluminum craftsman named 
>Lee Austin.
>
>I suspect Ektachromes formula changed over the years. I think all of mine from 
>the seventies are in good shape. (I know the processing chemicals changed in 
>the mid seventies from E4 to E6.) Gamma Labs on the west end of downtown 
>Chicago processed all of mine.
>
>http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16963163&size=lg
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Re: OT in defense of changing gear

[Kenneth Waller]

For me, one of the reasons for my photography is the end result -  the image. 
The process to get there for me is both a mechanical and a creative process. 
While other camera brands are available, the process would stil be the same, 
but I 'd have to adapt to the new brand uniqueness and that would take away 
from the creative process. So staying with a given brand lets me concentrate 
more on the creative process. Not to say I couldn't eventually learn the new 
brand - this and the fact that I've got a significant chuck of change in my 
Pentax equipment and I just don' t see other brands being enticing enough to 
make the switch.

YMMV


-Original Message-
>From: John Sessoms 
>Subject: Re: OT in defense of changing gear
>
>From: Rob Studdert
>> On 24 February 2013 12:21, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
>>
>>> Isn't that what this guy's point was, actually?
>>> (I just read the quote below , not the blog)
>>
>> I read the blog and to be honest I'm not sure what his point is. Mine
>> is just that familiarity with the equipment allows you to make a
>> greater part of your picture taking the creative component.
>>
>> Cheers,
>
>I read it through it several times and I'm still not sure I understand, 
>but ...
>
>I think he's bored with the way he's doing things and wants to change 
>up, yet he's finding it hard to break his established "rules" because 
>they work.



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Re: PESO - I See The Train A'Coming

[Kenneth Waller]

I've seen that concept at several airports that use rail to shuttle you from 
one terminal to another.

-Original Message-
>From: David Mann 
>Subject: Re: PESO - I See The Train A'Coming
>
>On Feb 24, 2013, at 6:40 AM, Bob W  wrote:
>
>>> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Sessoms
>>> 
>>> You know, it's a sad commentary on the state of the world today that my
>>> first thought was those people are standing right where some idiot can
>>> push them out onto the tracks.
>>> 
>> 
>> When I'm waiting for the tube I'm always very aware of who is around and
>> behind me. It doesn't have to be deliberate - on a crowded platform it could
>> happen accidentally.
>
>I saw on TV recently a shot of a subway station somewhere where they had fully 
>enclosed the platform with doors that match up with where the train stops 
>(imagine like a horizontal elevator).  May have been the series about great 
>cities hosted by Gryff Rhys Jones.  Something tells me it was Tokyo but I'm 
>not sure.
>
>It made me wonder why other cities haven't done this.
>
>Cheers,
>Dave



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Re: Ektachrome, 1978

[Kenneth Waller]

Meant to ask what class did it run in?


-Original Message-
>From: Kenneth Waller 
>Subject: Re: Ektachrome, 1978
>
>Way nice,creative capture, love the way the background is rendered!
>
>
>-Original Message-
>>From: Paul Stenquist 
>
>>Subject: Ektachrome, 1978
>>
>>Here's a 1978 Ektachorme that has largely resisted fading although it was 
>>stored in the dark. I should add that some of the Ektachromes that I shot 
>>with my Brownie Starflash in the fifties have faded a lot. This shot was 
>>taken for J Walter Thompson, and it was probably my first paid photo 
>>assignment that wasn't part of a journalism job. I used my Vivitar 20mm 3.5, 
>>which wasn't very sharp, but I probably had it stopped way down in back. 
>>That's my undergrad alma mater, Roosevelt University in the background. 
>>Brooksie spent some time there as well. It's in Adler and Sullivan's late 
>>19th century Auditorium Hotel building. The building next door -- I think 
>>it's called the Fine Arts Building -- is even older. Back then it housed the 
>>Studebaker Theater and a coffee shop on the lower level frequented by 
>>students and the artsy set. The race car is a jet powered dragster with some 
>>nice body work by an aluminum craftsman named Lee Austin.
>>
>>I suspect Ektachromes formula changed over the years. I think all of mine 
>>from the seventies are in good shape. (I know the processing chemicals 
>>changed in the mid seventies from E4 to E6.) Gamma Labs on the west end of 
>>downtown Chicago processed all of mine.
>>
>>http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16963163&size=lg


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OT PESO - Z

[David Savage]

G'day All,

Had a couple of shoots in the studio today. This was from the second &
was just a lighting test. I kinda' like it:



Enjoy.

Cheers,

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Re: d7100 samples...

[Boris Liberman]

Oh, absolutely. I couldn't possibly have dreamed that I would be driving 
a 125 BHP car every day like 10 years ago...


And indeed, I have K-5 and every now and then its high ISO capabilities 
come in handy. No argument here.


My point is different. It is that to say that Nikon D7100 is worse than 
Pentax K-5 because one does ISO 6400 or ISO 25600 and another does ISO 
51200 is splitting hairs IMHO. It is because unless you have very 
specific special type of shooting that requires such a capability, this 
difference is rather theoretical. The difference in dynamic range and 
color fidelity between K-7 and K-5 is real, even under relatively bright 
light. And such a difference can have visible impact on the pictures. 
Shooting very close to highest ISO (and having just 1 EV of difference 
between cameras) is, well, how to put it (as I most certainly don't mean 
to offend Darren or anybody else for that matter) - mostly marketing hype.


I expect a lot of argument going to happen (unlikely here, but very 
likely on other forums that I happen to visit or participate in) as to 
whether Pentax really needs this 24 MP sensor and whether the increase 
of pixel count is necessary. Further, some would advocate as if their 
life would depend on that, that then extra 8 MP is a life saving 
circumstance... IMHO - this sensor has 12 MP too many.


In fact, I much rather Pentax improved their imaging engine (e.g. the 
processing and rendering of rightmost part of the histogram or color 
fidelity) rather than invest in MP race...


So, indeed, one would have uses for things such as extra high ISOs or 
extra high pixel count. But would these extra high parameters be a deal 
breaker? Possibly but very improbably...


On 2/24/2013 7:37 AM, Rob Studdert wrote:

On 24 February 2013 16:26, Boris Liberman  wrote:


My most recent experience with late evening shooting with my meager Ricoh
(that tops off at ISO 3200, while I shoot at most at ISO 1600) that this
discussion of who has the longer... erm, sorry, the bigger top ISO is of
utter irrelevance to real life photography.


Yes and no Boris, generally the more sensitive the camera the more
usable it is at higher ISO. I'm sure that you wouldn't dreamed of
shooting regularly at ISO1600 with sensors of two generations ago?




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Re: Boris, 3 PESOs

[Boris Liberman]

Thanks, Chris. I hope to be able one day to take you to old Jaffa and 
spend a pleasant photographic evening with you.


On 2/24/2013 10:41 AM, Chris Mitchell wrote:

Worked fine for me. SFA is fun and the alleyway is really nice.

Chris

On 24 February 2013 05:59, Boris Liberman  wrote:

This is strange indeed. I've just tried to open the link on my cell phone
and it was ok. I'm thinking that at least 35 or so items are thumbnails from
the set of my blog followers.

I wonder if other links exhibit the same behavior as the first one.


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On February 24, 2013 7:50:12 AM Bob Sullivan  wrote:


Boris,
1st photo was downloading 56 items.(???)
Doesn't seem reasonable.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 11:45 PM, Boris Liberman 
wrote:

Hi!

 From our recent walks in and outside of town...

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2013/02/2013-08-blooming-almonds.html


http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2013/02/2013-09-shitty-fucking-attitude.html

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2013/02/2013-10-old-jaffa-alley.html

B&H comments are sought after, as usual.

Boris

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Re: Boris, 3 PESOs

[Boris Liberman]

Thanks, Jack. We're having a Purim holiday here. The idea is to dress up 
and some people dress up in very comment defying manner. I was 
fascinated by the contrast between the writing on that lady's shirt and 
otherwise cheerful look she had.




On 2/24/2013 2:45 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

Old Jafa Allay has a pleasing feel to it. DOF and lighting very well done.
Blooming Almonds point of focus is allusive.
The other one defies comment.

Jack


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Subject: Boris, 3 PESOs

Hi!


From our recent walks in and outside of town...


http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2013/02/2013-08-blooming-almonds.html

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2013/02/2013-09-shitty-fucking-attitude.html

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2013/02/2013-10-old-jaffa-alley.html

B&H comments are sought after, as usual.

Boris

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K-5 Viewfinder Brightness

[Bipin Gupta]

Thanks Charles for the clear cut explanation. The mirror and focusing
screens on the Film Leica is 1.5 times bigger than the K-5s. So it has
more light gathering power and hence has a brighter image in the
viewfinder.
How dumb of me to forget high school physics on Light & lenses, mirrors etc.
Regards.
Bipin - from that far away enchanting land

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Re: K-5 Viewfinder Brightness

[Robert Woerner]

I always envied Nikon F100 viewfinders compared to the PZ-1p and MZ-S 
viewfinders. Had digital not come along I would have switched to Nikon. I like 
my K5 though. My only problem with the K5 is that in bright light it is 
difficult to read the viewfinder info. I love the interface otherwise. What 
makes it for me with Pentax now are the 16-50 and 50-135 f2.8s. The K5 also 
functions well with the FA 50 1.4 and FA 50. 2.8 macro.

Robert

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On Feb 24, 2013, at 8:55 AM, Bipin Gupta  wrote:

> I took out the Leica Film SLR today to give it some exercise and a warm
> sunlight bath. I attached the Tamron 28-200 Adaptal and looked thru the
> viewfinder. It definitely appeared brighter than the K-5s.
> So I put another Tamron 28-200 I have from my MZ-5n days, on the K-5.
> And lo & behold - the Leica's viewfinder WAS Brighter. No question.
> Both use Penta Prisms, and Pentax has always claimed they were the
> FIRST to use Penta Prisms in their SLRs.
> So what's happening here - an ancient Leica and the latest Pentax-Ricoh?
> And you bet, both were at 28mm f3.8.
> Regards.
> Bipin - from that far away enchanting land.
> 
> PS: The AF Tamron 28-200 shows up as Pentax in Exif Data. Surprised!!??
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Re: K-01 now on the official "discontinued model" page

[Boris Liberman]

Cool... Good chance for people to get one why they're offered for 
sale... Personally though - I ain't gettin' it...


On 2/20/2013 5:55 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

http://www.pentax.jp/english/products/others.html

B&H still has the bodies in your choice of colors for $299. Get one
with the DA40 for an extra $60.




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Re: Boris, 3 PESOs

[Jack Davis]

I see! 
It's a look that I tend to interpret as enjoyment felt in anticipating shock in 
the older generation.

Jack


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From: Boris Liberman 
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Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: Boris, 3 PESOs

Thanks, Jack. We're having a Purim holiday here. The idea is to dress up 
and some people dress up in very comment defying manner. I was 
fascinated by the contrast between the writing on that lady's shirt and 
otherwise cheerful look she had.



On 2/24/2013 2:45 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
> Old Jafa Allay has a pleasing feel to it. DOF and lighting very well done.
> Blooming Almonds point of focus is allusive.
> The other one defies comment.
>
> Jack
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Boris Liberman 
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Cc:
> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 9:45 PM
> Subject: Boris, 3 PESOs
>
> Hi!
>
>>From our recent walks in and outside of town...
>
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2013/02/2013-08-blooming-almonds.html
>
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2013/02/2013-09-shitty-fucking-attitude.html
>
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2013/02/2013-10-old-jaffa-alley.html
>
> B&H comments are sought after, as usual.
>
> Boris
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Re: PESO - Cargo Brad (messenger content),

[Don Guthrie]

Bike messengers are a foreign world to this small-town boy. which is 
another reason I enjoy your photos. I never seen I bike like this. 
Horizon expanded.




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Cargo bikes are amazing!

Brad is a "lone wolf", one of the few in Toronto. Has a manageable list of 
clients who require large boxes to be delivered on a regular basis. Because he can charge 
so much more for delivering big boxes he does okay with fewer deliveries (but obviously 
works harder for each delivery).

He zips along pretty well on his big old cargo bike:

  http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2013/02/load-bearing-structure.html?m=1

Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.

Cheers,
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Re: OT in defense of changing gear

[Aahz Maruch]

On Sun, Feb 24, 2013, Bill wrote:
>
> If you want excitement in your life go find yourself a mistress half
> your age.

Older ones work well, too
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Re: OT PESO - Z

[Bruce Walker]

I like the body definition this light creates. I think it's a little
bit too hard and/or bright for her face though. Maybe a bit of snooted
on-axis fill to reduce the skin detail just there.

On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 1:32 PM, David Savage  wrote:
> G'day All,
>
> Had a couple of shoots in the studio today. This was from the second &
> was just a lighting test. I kinda' like it:
>
> 
>
> Enjoy.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave
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Re: GESO - Experiments with X-ray optics

[Paul Sorenson]

Simpleviewer requires flash. Can't see the gallery on my iPad.  : > (

-p

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 24, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Jostein Øksne  wrote:

> http://www.alunfoto.no/temp/heligontest/index.html
> 
> I have purchased an old optic from an X-ray machine, a Rodenstock 100mm f/1.6.
> 
> First I tried it on the 645D, just holding it before the bayonet to see if 
> there was any vignetting. There wasn't! So the image circle is quite decent. 
> The image of the rotten plant is shot with this combo. I think the OOF 
> rendering is quite interesting and look forward to play more with this setup.
> 
> Then I scavenged an old and broken Pentax-A 50mm f/1.7. I picked out all the 
> optical elements and mounted the Rodenstock into the focusing helicoid using 
> generous amounts of gaffatape. The other two images are produced with this 
> setup. The "jesus-light" image at f/2.8, the daisies at f/8.
> 
> To have the iris behind all the optical elements like this is probably all 
> wrong from a theoretical perspective, and the true size of the aperture is 
> probably not as advertised. Yet I must say I like the results.
> 
> As the "jesus-light" image shows, the lens comes with an odd compliment of 
> internal reflections. I believe it can be used to good effect on occasion.
> 
> Cheers,
> Jostein 
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Re: OT - Frequent Fracture Card

[Boris Liberman]

Will you please stop!!!

Get well soon and be a good man - don't do that again, Frank - it is 
certainly not worth it.


On 2/20/2013 2:34 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

That's what they're giving me at St. Joe's Hospital here in Toronto.
Third visit in two years, second since September.

We had a flash freeze yesterday after a thaw that covered the gutters
and bike lanes with standing water. The sudden drop in temps, of
course, turned it to ice. Worse was the gusting forty-to-sixty
kilometre an hour winds. Got smacked with a sudden sidewind while on
black ice. Down I go.

Broken ankle. But, "a good break" which should allow a walking
cast/boot and heal without complications.

On my way to fracture clinic as we speak to be looked at by
orthopaedic surgeon and get fitted for aforementioned cast.

If I am a walking/metropassing messenger for a while I will have more
photo ops!  ;-)

As always, could have been worse.

More on this later. Just wanted to share with friends (that's you
guys!).  ;-)

cheers, frank


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Re: Windows 8 is Horseshit.

[Paul Sorenson]

Goes for other things too. Stay in a Country Inn and a fridge in the room is 
the norm. We stayed in a Radisson (same parent company) in downtown Minneapolis 
and had to pay an extra 25 bucks for a fridge. 

-p

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 24, 2013, at 9:37 AM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:

> Free WiFi internet access is common here in the USA.
> McDonalds, Starbucks, and almost all motels/hotels have it free.
> Yes, when the small town library closes,
> the kids move over to the McD's to finish their school projects.
> Regards,  Bob S.
> 
> On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 2:48 AM, David Mann  wrote:
>> On Feb 24, 2013, at 5:56 PM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
>> 
>>> Paul,
>>> Not free here in Anahiem unless your an HHHonors Gold or Platinum(?) member.
>>> I've seen the same in Boston where the big hotels are gouging for
>>> internet service.
>>> Ticks me off when I know it's free almost everywhere along the
>>> interstate motels.
>> 
>> We have a USB data stick which we take whenever we travel domestically.  
>> It's on a pay-as-you-go data plan so it doesn't cost us much.  But we do use 
>> it sparingly (eg no Youtube).
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Dave
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Re: needs to get......

[Bruce Walker]

Which one, Dave: the Pro or Express? Vistek has them. Also The Camera
Store, at $119.

http://www.thecamerastore.com/products/datacolor/datacolor-spyder-4-express

Just being helpful. :-)

On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 12:54 PM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 12:33 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
>> Just do it, Dave.
>
> Henrys is out at the moment:-(
>
> Dave
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 9:16 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
>>>  Spyder 4 for my prints/.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
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Re:Geso Annual snow golf random photos

[Don Guthrie]

Playing golf in snow & ice is a travesty and against all the laws of 
nature. Unless you are trying to see how far a drive can go on a frozen 
lake.


These people seem to be having fun so I guess it is all right for some.


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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 08:04:38 -0500
From: David J Brooks
To: Pentax Discuss, Petch Dianne
, Barbara Brooks, 
Harry
Bolton,   David Button, Darryl 
Button
, Rod Pipher
Subject: Geso Annual snow golf random photos
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http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2013-snowgolf/album/index.html

Held this past Saturday, a week later than normal cause we only got
snow last week.:-)

Unadjusted low res jpg's copied pt jalbum for display purposes

D200, 18-70, SB800 flash

Dave



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Re: 1975 Kodachrome

[Paul Stenquist]

And of course there's much about digital that film can't reproduce. In the end, 
I take digital for my serious work, hands down. That said, Ive had a lot of fun 
with film this week. I have to break out my Speed Graphic some time soon.

Paul
On Feb 24, 2013, at 11:39 AM, Zos Xavius  wrote:

> Looking through these old film scans makes me want to get a MF film
> camera even more. Heck a crown graphic would be a lot of fun too. :)
> 
> There's something about film that digital can't reproduce. I can't
> wait to try my first roll of velvia. :)
> 
> On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 11:14 AM, Bill  wrote:
>> On 23/02/2013 10:49 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
>>> 
>>> Bill,
>>> I've seen the same here with my Dad's stuff.
>> 
>> I think it's the E-2 and E-4 process films that are suffering the worst. E-6
>> was released in 1977, and seems to be quite a bit more stable.
>> 
>> 
>> bill
>> 
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Re: 1975 Kodachrome

[Paul Stenquist]

It was a AA/Fuel funny car. Ran a best quarter mile of 6.37 seconds, 237 mph in 
1976. Track promotors billed it as the world's fastest Corvette, which it may 
have been at the time. Although it wasn't really a Corvette of course. Just 
looked like one.


On Feb 24, 2013, at 12:52 PM, Kenneth Waller  wrote:

> nice documentary shot!
> 
> What class did it run in?
> 
> I recently went thru 25000+ slides from back in the 60's and edited out most 
> down to a few hundred and need to scan those.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
>> From: Paul Stenquist 
>> Subject: 1975 Kodachrome
>> 
>> A shot of my race car on the jack and ready to be warmed  in the pits. 
>> Notice how I didn't bother to close the doors on the car hauler behind it. 
>> But I was more into the racing than the photography back then. 
>> 
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16963159&size=lg
>> 
>> Having a lot of fun scanning old transparencies with the new Epson 500V. 
>> Most of my Kodachromes are as good as new. They've been stored in plastic 
>> sleeves for the last twenty years. In the Kodak boxes for the preceding 
>> twenty or so years.
> 
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Re: Ektachrome, 1978

[Paul Stenquist]

It was strictly an exhibition car, and there wasn't really a class for it.  
Back then -- and perhaps still today -- there were rocket and jet powered 
dragsters that only ran exhibitions. Most of the jets turned low seven second 
elapsed times at about 270 mph. Some of the rockets turned 5 second elapsed 
times at over 300 mph. This one was powered by a general electric jet engine I 
believe, probably government surplus.

On Feb 24, 2013, at 1:27 PM, Kenneth Waller  wrote:

> Meant to ask what class did it run in?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
>> From: Kenneth Waller 
>> Subject: Re: Ektachrome, 1978
>> 
>> Way nice,creative capture, love the way the background is rendered!
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Paul Stenquist 
>> 
>>> Subject: Ektachrome, 1978
>>> 
>>> Here's a 1978 Ektachorme that has largely resisted fading although it was 
>>> stored in the dark. I should add that some of the Ektachromes that I shot 
>>> with my Brownie Starflash in the fifties have faded a lot. This shot was 
>>> taken for J Walter Thompson, and it was probably my first paid photo 
>>> assignment that wasn't part of a journalism job. I used my Vivitar 20mm 
>>> 3.5, which wasn't very sharp, but I probably had it stopped way down in 
>>> back. That's my undergrad alma mater, Roosevelt University in the 
>>> background. Brooksie spent some time there as well. It's in Adler and 
>>> Sullivan's late 19th century Auditorium Hotel building. The building next 
>>> door -- I think it's called the Fine Arts Building -- is even older. Back 
>>> then it housed the Studebaker Theater and a coffee shop on the lower level 
>>> frequented by students and the artsy set. The race car is a jet powered 
>>> dragster with some nice body work by an aluminum craftsman named Lee Austin.
>>> 
>>> I suspect Ektachromes formula changed over the years. I think all of mine 
>>> from the seventies are in good shape. (I know the processing chemicals 
>>> changed in the mid seventies from E4 to E6.) Gamma Labs on the west end of 
>>> downtown Chicago processed all of mine.
>>> 
>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16963163&size=lg
> 
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Re: d7100 samples...

[Tom C]

> From: Boris Liberman 
>
> Oh, absolutely. I couldn't possibly have dreamed that I would be driving
> a 125 BHP car every day like 10 years ago...
>
> And indeed, I have K-5 and every now and then its high ISO capabilities
> come in handy. No argument here.
>
> My point is different. It is that to say that Nikon D7100 is worse than
> Pentax K-5 because one does ISO 6400 or ISO 25600 and another does ISO
> 51200 is splitting hairs IMHO. It is because unless you have very
> specific special type of shooting that requires such a capability, this
> difference is rather theoretical. The difference in dynamic range and
> color fidelity between K-7 and K-5 is real, even under relatively bright
> light. And such a difference can have visible impact on the pictures.
> Shooting very close to highest ISO (and having just 1 EV of difference
> between cameras) is, well, how to put it (as I most certainly don't mean
> to offend Darren or anybody else for that matter) - mostly marketing hype.
>
> I expect a lot of argument going to happen (unlikely here, but very
> likely on other forums that I happen to visit or participate in) as to
> whether Pentax really needs this 24 MP sensor and whether the increase
> of pixel count is necessary. Further, some would advocate as if their
> life would depend on that, that then extra 8 MP is a life saving
> circumstance... IMHO - this sensor has 12 MP too many.
>
> In fact, I much rather Pentax improved their imaging engine (e.g. the
> processing and rendering of rightmost part of the histogram or color
> fidelity) rather than invest in MP race...
>
> So, indeed, one would have uses for things such as extra high ISOs or
> extra high pixel count. But would these extra high parameters be a deal
> breaker? Possibly but very improbably...
>

You know how it is here for the most part.

If Pentax has it, and another manufacturer does not, then Pentax is
the best in the world.

If another manufacturer has it, and Pentax does not, then why does one need it?

As you say Boris, it's all about the end use.

One doesn't need the higher ISO capability until one is in a position
where their images lack because of not having it.

One doesn't need the higher resolution sensor until one wishes to
present their images at a larger size, and then finds out it would
have been nice to have. Or they could have used the extra resolution
when cropping.

For the most part, the user of any given system, doesn't truly realize
the potential of a new system (be it same brand or otherwise) until
they actually use it. When we had 6MP we shot with those, then it was
10, 14, 16... given the ability to obtain one, who would deliberately
choose a 6 over 16.

I agree, that claiming a camera is better or worse than another based
on the highest ISO spec (or merely MP) is pushing it a bit. Those
numbers are the extreme limit, and shooting at those ISO's while
possibly yielding a 'usable' image, may not yield a 'great' image
noise-wise.

As regards the 'MP race', Pentax must at least give the appearance of
keeping up or become irrelevant.

Customer: What about this camera?

Camera salesman: That one only has 16MP. That's 8 MP less than a 24MP
camera. The more MP the more detail you can capture. Several years ago
the top of the line digital cameras a normal person could afford only
had 8MP, 16MP is twice that. 24MP is 3 times that. All the other
manufacturers are producing cameras with more than 16MP.

What will the customer do?


Tom C.

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Re: GESO - Experiments with X-ray optics

[Jostein Øksne]

- Original Message - 
From: "Paul Sorenson" 

Simpleviewer requires flash. Can't see the gallery on my iPad.  : > (


Try this then:
http://www.alunfoto.no/temp/heligon2/index.html



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Re: GESO - Experiments with X-ray optics

[Ann Sanfedele]

I really like that first one... like a Turneresque painting and nice 
geometry too.


Not crazy about the other two... looks like you're having fun :-)

ann

On 2/24/2013 11:25, Jostein Øksne wrote:

http://www.alunfoto.no/temp/heligontest/index.html

I have purchased an old optic from an X-ray machine, a Rodenstock 100mm
f/1.6.

First I tried it on the 645D, just holding it before the bayonet to see
if there was any vignetting. There wasn't! So the image circle is quite
decent. The image of the rotten plant is shot with this combo. I think
the OOF rendering is quite interesting and look forward to play more
with this setup.

Then I scavenged an old and broken Pentax-A 50mm f/1.7. I picked out all
the optical elements and mounted the Rodenstock into the focusing
helicoid using generous amounts of gaffatape. The other two images are
produced with this setup. The "jesus-light" image at f/2.8, the daisies
at f/8.

To have the iris behind all the optical elements like this is probably
all wrong from a theoretical perspective, and the true size of the
aperture is probably not as advertised. Yet I must say I like the results.

As the "jesus-light" image shows, the lens comes with an odd compliment
of internal reflections. I believe it can be used to good effect on
occasion.

Cheers,
Jostein



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Re: GESO - Experiments with X-ray optics

[Bruce Walker]

I like those, especially the third.

There's no chance of residual radiation on that thing is there?

On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Jostein Øksne  wrote:
> http://www.alunfoto.no/temp/heligontest/index.html
>
> I have purchased an old optic from an X-ray machine, a Rodenstock 100mm
> f/1.6.
>
> First I tried it on the 645D, just holding it before the bayonet to see if
> there was any vignetting. There wasn't! So the image circle is quite decent.
> The image of the rotten plant is shot with this combo. I think the OOF
> rendering is quite interesting and look forward to play more with this
> setup.
>
> Then I scavenged an old and broken Pentax-A 50mm f/1.7. I picked out all the
> optical elements and mounted the Rodenstock into the focusing helicoid using
> generous amounts of gaffatape. The other two images are produced with this
> setup. The "jesus-light" image at f/2.8, the daisies at f/8.
>
> To have the iris behind all the optical elements like this is probably all
> wrong from a theoretical perspective, and the true size of the aperture is
> probably not as advertised. Yet I must say I like the results.
>
> As the "jesus-light" image shows, the lens comes with an odd compliment of
> internal reflections. I believe it can be used to good effect on occasion.
>
> Cheers,
> Jostein
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Re: PESO - Cargo Brad (messenger content)

[Bruce Walker]

That's very cool, Frank, both because I've never heard of such a
machine before and because it's a fine shot. That bike certainly looks
like a rare and low volume (semi-custom?) product.

On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 9:18 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
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> Cargo bikes are amazing!
>
> Brad is a "lone wolf", one of the few in Toronto. Has a manageable list of 
> clients who require large boxes to be delivered on a regular basis. Because 
> he can charge so much more for delivering big boxes he does okay with fewer 
> deliveries (but obviously works harder for each delivery).
>
> He zips along pretty well on his big old cargo bike:
>
>  http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2013/02/load-bearing-structure.html?m=1
>
> Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.
>
> Cheers,
> frank
>
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Re: A day for new introductions

[Bruce Walker]

On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 12:39 AM, Charles Robinson  wrote:
> On Feb 23, 2013, at 23:20 , Bob Sullivan  wrote:
>> I was so dumbfounded to encounter another Pentax user that I just
>> froze as he walked off.
>
> With very few exceptions, most people I encounter shooting Pentax (and it is 
> RARE) are young women.  I have no idea why that is.
>
>  -Charles

Isn't that who Pentax has been marketing to lately? Twee little
cameras and funky colours?

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OT Hobbies

[Bruce Walker]

I feel for ya, bro ...
https://vimeo.com/26772752

Some (4:10) Sunday humour.

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RE: OT Hobbies

[Bob W]

> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Walker
> 
> I feel for ya, bro ...
> https://vimeo.com/26772752
> 
> Some (4:10) Sunday humour.
> 

I can't imagine anyone could be as dumb as that. No sir. No way.

Now, if I can just get this matador suit into the cupboard, right next to
the hang glider and the medieval jousting saddle...

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RE: Windows 8 is Horseshit.

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> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Paul Sorenson
> 
> Goes for other things too. Stay in a Country Inn and a fridge in the
> room is the norm. We stayed in a Radisson (same parent company) in
> downtown Minneapolis and had to pay an extra 25 bucks for a fridge.
> 

You must be mad.

B
> -p
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Feb 24, 2013, at 9:37 AM, Bob Sullivan 
> wrote:
> 
> > Free WiFi internet access is common here in the USA.
> > McDonalds, Starbucks, and almost all motels/hotels have it free.
> > Yes, when the small town library closes, the kids move over to the
> > McD's to finish their school projects.
> > Regards,  Bob S.
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 2:48 AM, David Mann 
> wrote:
> >> On Feb 24, 2013, at 5:56 PM, Bob Sullivan 
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Paul,
> >>> Not free here in Anahiem unless your an HHHonors Gold or
> Platinum(?) member.
> >>> I've seen the same in Boston where the big hotels are gouging for
> >>> internet service.
> >>> Ticks me off when I know it's free almost everywhere along the
> >>> interstate motels.
> >>
> >> We have a USB data stick which we take whenever we travel
> domestically.  It's on a pay-as-you-go data plan so it doesn't cost us
> much.  But we do use it sparingly (eg no Youtube).
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Dave
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Re: Windows 8 is Horseshit.

[kwaller]

When I run into this, and who hasn't, I keep asking for the next higher up 
person - generally at least gets me to someone I can converse with.


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- Original Message - 
From: "Bob Sullivan" 

Subject: Re: Windows 8 is Horseshit.



Speaking of Horseshit, I have another nomination.
I'm staying in a Hilton hotel tonight.
As an HH Honors member they seemed to offer free internet.
(Most every motel on the interstate highway offers free internet.)
On closer inspection, not really free at Hilton.
No problem says I, the alternative is free to ATT customers.
So I try that option, not quite.
We need your ATT address and password.
That I don't really remember, but with a cell phone call they help me
with my address.
Can't do anything about the password though.
Have to call this other number for that.
So I call.
While a black man with poor English was helpful on the first call,
the oriental woman on the second call was unbelievable!
First, she has an unintelliginle accent - very poor Engllish language
pronounciation.
Second, she's talking so fast, I can't make out what she is saying.
(And I've got a pretty good ear for it after my share of 3 hour conf
calls to China.)
Third, everything she says is clipped.  It is being dropped by the
cellphone connection.
And fourth and most infuriating, she isn't listening!
I say something and she launches into a 25 second sing-song  monologue.
I talk over her, but she just continues to speak..
I tell her to listen, but she doesn't.
I tell her she is not conversing with me.
I tell her I can't understand what she is saying.
I tell her she has poor language skills.
She continues to ask me about irrelevant questions.
I finally give up and just start guessing at my password.
I make a good guess and get signed on, after 30 minutes of horseshit.
ATT blows dead bears.
Now how do I get ATT to hear this?
Regards,  Bob S.


On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 1:11 AM, Bill  wrote:

On 22/02/2013 12:10 PM, Walt wrote:


On 2/21/2013 7:51 PM, Bill wrote:


On 20/02/2013 8:18 PM, Walt wrote:


On 2/20/2013 8:15 PM, Bill wrote:


OK, so I got that out of the way.
I just bought my wife a new laptop, which unfortunately came with Win 
8
installed. To say it licks donkey balls is being both kind to it, and 
unkind
to donkey balls lickers, who are not so bad when compared to Windows 
8.
It is a crap spewing, drowning us in chunky wet vomit, puerile, 
golden

shower of an operating system.
I just cannot say enough bad about Windows 8 to get my point across
about just what an abomination it is, and those of you who have been 
on this
list for more than a bakers dozen years are well aware of just how 
much bad

stuff I can say about things that annoy me.
I must get rid of it, and soon.

Help me.

bill


Untold millions share your pain. FWIW, here's what I did for the new
desktop at work:

http://www.classicshell.net



Yup, that helped. Actually gives it the best of both worlds. Has the 
Win

XP look and usability with all the progressive features of Win 8.
Wife happy. Happy wife, happy life. I'm happy.
Thanks Walt.

bill


Glad to help.

Here's a long (23 minutes) video review with a litany of all that's 
wrong

with it -- so far.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTYet-qf1jo

-- Walt


Yeah. That's pretty much it.
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Re: Film Day 3

[kwaller]

But digital has helped me up my keeper ratio - compared to slides - since I 
can get I very good handle on the exposure - thank you histogram + RAW.


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- Original Message - 
From: "Aahz Maruch" 

Subject: Re: Film Day 3



On Sat, Feb 23, 2013, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:


Old cameras are so much fun! Quite liberating, actually. Digital
becomes oppressive after a while. The simplicity of a mechanical film
camera is refreshing.


Could you expand on that?  My perception is that digital is way simpler.
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Re: paw week 8--snow mound

[kwaller]

Nice capture but isn't the snow in Chicago white? ;+>

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- Original Message - 
From: "Christine Aguila" 

Subject: paw week 8--snow mound



cheers, Christine
http://www.caguila.com/paw2013/content/_IGP5554_large.html



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Re: Geso Annual snow golf random photos

[kwaller]

Looks like fun, glad to see you guys brought your liquid refreshment with 
you !


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- Original Message - 
From: "David J Brooks" 

Subject: Geso Annual snow golf random photos



http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2013-snowgolf/album/index.html

Held this past Saturday, a week later than normal cause we only got
snow last week.:-)

Unadjusted low res jpg's copied pt jalbum for display purposes

D200, 18-70, SB800 flash



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Re: OT PESO - Z

[kwaller]

All I can say is ... SMOKIN !

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- Original Message - 
From: "David Savage" 

Subject: OT PESO - Z



G'day All,

Had a couple of shoots in the studio today. This was from the second &
was just a lighting test. I kinda' like it:



Enjoy.

Cheers,

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Re: Re:Geso Annual snow golf random photos

[kwaller]

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- Original Message - 
From: "Don Guthrie" 

Subject: Re:Geso Annual snow golf random photos


Playing golf in snow & ice is a travesty and against all the laws of 
nature. Unless you are trying to see how far a drive can go on a frozen 
lake.


These people seem to be having fun so I guess it is all right for some.



Plus beer was involved,




Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 08:04:38 -0500
From: David J Brooks
Subject: Geso Annual snow golf random photos
Message-ID:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2013-snowgolf/album/index.html

Held this past Saturday, a week later than normal cause we only got
snow last week.:-)

Unadjusted low res jpg's copied pt jalbum for display purposes

D200, 18-70, SB800 flash

Dave



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Re: PESO - Cargo Brad (messenger content)

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

There are many different kinds of cargo bikes out there. I guess as a cyclist 
who works downtown (where bike density may be higher than in the suburbs) I see 
many varieties of bikes including a fair number or cargo bikes.

This one is certainly one of the largest and most unusual looking. American 
companies Surly and Belinky make cargo bikes as well as more conventional ones.

The Bullit is Danish and at $4,000Cdn not cheap but it's one of the best out 
there. Huge payload capacity, carries up to 400 pounds and only weighs about 50 
pounds; there are some cruisers and heavy-duty urban bikes like the Kronan that 
weigh about that amount. Come to think of it, Kronan makes a cargo bike, too.

Here's a review of the Bullit if you're interested:

 
http://momentummag.com/articles/cargo-bike-review-larry-vs-harry-bullitt-clockwork/

Thanks for the kind words and thanks to others who commented. Much appreciated!

cheers,
frank 

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Subject: Re: PESO - Cargo Brad (messenger content)

That's very cool, Frank, both because I've never heard of such a
machine before and because it's a fine shot. That bike certainly looks
like a rare and low volume (semi-custom?) product.

On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 9:18 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
 wrote:
> Cargo bikes are amazing!
>
> Brad is a "lone wolf", one of the few in Toronto. Has a manageable list of 
> clients who require large boxes to be delivered on a regular basis. Because 
> he can charge so much more for delivering big boxes he does okay with fewer 
> deliveries (but obviously works harder for each delivery).
>
> He zips along pretty well on his big old cargo bike:
>
>  http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2013/02/load-bearing-structure.html?m=1
>
> Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.
>
> Cheers,
> frank
>
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Re: OT Hobbies

[kwaller]

And those were probably Pentax Binoculars ... ;+)

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From: "Bruce Walker" 

Subject: OT Hobbies



I feel for ya, bro ...
https://vimeo.com/26772752

Some (4:10) Sunday humour.



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RE: PESO - Cargo Brad (messenger content)

[Bob W]

Don't forget Pashley!


B

> -Original Message-
> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> knarftheria...@gmail.com
> 
> There are many different kinds of cargo bikes out there. I guess as a
> cyclist who works downtown (where bike density may be higher than in
> the suburbs) I see many varieties of bikes including a fair number or
> cargo bikes.
> 
> This one is certainly one of the largest and most unusual looking.
> American companies Surly and Belinky make cargo bikes as well as more
> conventional ones.
> 
> The Bullit is Danish and at $4,000Cdn not cheap but it's one of the
> best out there. Huge payload capacity, carries up to 400 pounds and
> only weighs about 50 pounds; there are some cruisers and heavy-duty
> urban bikes like the Kronan that weigh about that amount. Come to think
> of it, Kronan makes a cargo bike, too.
> 
> Here's a review of the Bullit if you're interested:
> 
>  http://momentummag.com/articles/cargo-bike-review-larry-vs-harry-
> bullitt-clockwork/
> 
> Thanks for the kind words and thanks to others who commented. Much
> appreciated!



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Re: GESO - Experiments with X-ray optics

[Don Guthrie]

Still not sure what the technic is. Kinda cool tho.


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- Original Message -
From: "Paul Sorenson"

>Simpleviewer requires flash. Can't see the gallery on my iPad.  : > (

Try this then:
http://www.alunfoto.no/temp/heligon2/index.html




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Re:Geso Annual snow golf random photos

[John Sessoms]

From: Don Guthrie


Playing golf in snow & ice is a travesty and against all the laws of
nature. Unless you are trying to see how far a drive can go on a frozen
lake.

These people seem to be having fun so I guess it is all right for some.


I'm sort of with Bill Cosby on "golf" - If you wanted to keep the ball 
why did you hit it with the stick?


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Re: Windows 8 is Horseshit.

[Paul Sorenson]

I was 'til I got my fridge.

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 24, 2013, at 4:08 PM, "Bob W"  wrote:

>> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Paul Sorenson
>> 
>> Goes for other things too. Stay in a Country Inn and a fridge in the
>> room is the norm. We stayed in a Radisson (same parent company) in
>> downtown Minneapolis and had to pay an extra 25 bucks for a fridge.
> 
> You must be mad.
> 
> B
>> -p
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On Feb 24, 2013, at 9:37 AM, Bob Sullivan 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Free WiFi internet access is common here in the USA.
>>> McDonalds, Starbucks, and almost all motels/hotels have it free.
>>> Yes, when the small town library closes, the kids move over to the
>>> McD's to finish their school projects.
>>> Regards,  Bob S.
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 2:48 AM, David Mann 
>> wrote:
 On Feb 24, 2013, at 5:56 PM, Bob Sullivan 
>> wrote:
 
> Paul,
> Not free here in Anahiem unless your an HHHonors Gold or
>> Platinum(?) member.
> I've seen the same in Boston where the big hotels are gouging for
> internet service.
> Ticks me off when I know it's free almost everywhere along the
> interstate motels.
 
 We have a USB data stick which we take whenever we travel
>> domestically.  It's on a pay-as-you-go data plan so it doesn't cost us
>> much.  But we do use it sparingly (eg no Youtube).
 
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Re: Geso Annual snow golf random photos

[Paul Stenquist]

Looks like a fun time. A dynamic range challenge:-)!

On Feb 24, 2013, at 5:29 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:

> 
> 
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Don Guthrie" 
> Subject: Re:Geso Annual snow golf random photos
> 
> 
>> Playing golf in snow & ice is a travesty and against all the laws of nature. 
>> Unless you are trying to see how far a drive can go on a frozen lake.
>> These people seem to be having fun so I guess it is all right for some.
> 
> Plus beer was involved,
> 
>>> Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 08:04:38 -0500
>>> From: David J Brooks
>>> Subject: Geso Annual snow golf random photos
>>> Message-ID:
>>> 
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>> 
>>> http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2013-snowgolf/album/index.html
>>> 
>>> Held this past Saturday, a week later than normal cause we only got
>>> snow last week.:-)
>>> 
>>> Unadjusted low res jpg's copied pt jalbum for display purposes
>>> 
>>> D200, 18-70, SB800 flash
>>> 
>>> Dave
> 
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Re: Ektachrome, 1978

[Bruce Walker]

Jet powered dragster: too cool. An adolescent's wet dream. :-) Love
the shot, Paul.

On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 7:47 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> Here's a 1978 Ektachorme that has largely resisted fading although it was 
> stored in the dark. I should add that some of the Ektachromes that I shot 
> with my Brownie Starflash in the fifties have faded a lot. This shot was 
> taken for J Walter Thompson, and it was probably my first paid photo 
> assignment that wasn't part of a journalism job. I used my Vivitar 20mm 3.5, 
> which wasn't very sharp, but I probably had it stopped way down in back. 
> That's my undergrad alma mater, Roosevelt University in the background. 
> Brooksie spent some time there as well. It's in Adler and Sullivan's late 
> 19th century Auditorium Hotel building. The building next door -- I think 
> it's called the Fine Arts Building -- is even older. Back then it housed the 
> Studebaker Theater and a coffee shop on the lower level frequented by 
> students and the artsy set. The race car is a jet powered dragster with some 
> nice body work by an aluminum craftsman named Lee Austin.
>
> I suspect Ektachromes formula changed over the years. I think all of mine 
> from the seventies are in good shape. (I know the processing chemicals 
> changed in the mid seventies from E4 to E6.) Gamma Labs on the west end of 
> downtown Chicago processed all of mine.
>
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Re: d7100 samples...

[Charles Robinson]

On Feb 24, 2013, at 10:36 , Zos Xavius  wrote:
>  the k-7 seemed to nail tungsten WB better too.
> anyone else ever notice that? the k-5 gets pretty warm and hot fast.
> 

Are you shooting JPEG?  Custom setting 12 "AWB in Tungsten Light" has the 
option of "subtle" or "strong" correction (default is "subtle"), that might get 
you in the right direction.

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Re: 1975 Kodachrome

[Mark C]

Great image, looks like an awesome car. Didn't know you used to race ! 
The colors on the slide look great - glad the V500 is working out!


Mark

On 2/23/2013 9:16 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

A shot of my race car on the jack and ready to be warmed  in the pits. Notice 
how I didn't bother to close the doors on the car hauler behind it. But I was 
more into the racing than the photography back then.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16963159&size=lg

Having a lot of fun scanning old transparencies with the new Epson 500V. Most 
of my Kodachromes are as good as new. They've been stored in plastic sleeves 
for the last twenty years. In the Kodak boxes for the preceding twenty or so 
years.

Paul



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Re: OT in defense of changing gear

[Mark C]

On 2/24/2013 4:32 AM, Bob W wrote:
Fuck Freud - Brian said it better: 
 B 


Yeah - That's better.




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RE: Ektachrome, 1978

[Bob W]

> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Walker
> 
> Jet powered dragster: too cool. An adolescent's wet dream. :-) Love the
> shot, Paul.
> 

Wrestling naked in warm mud with Raquel Welch and Ursula Andress are an
adolescent's wet dream, mate. Jet-propelled dragsters are just sublimation. 


> >
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Re: Ektachrome, 1978

[Mark C]

Great shot of an exceptional vehicle and also of  Michigan Avenue. I did 
a 6 month certificate program an Roosevelt in 1984 - the buildings are 
just as I remember them...


Mark

On 2/24/2013 7:47 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Here's a 1978 Ektachorme that has largely resisted fading although it was 
stored in the dark. I should add that some of the Ektachromes that I shot with 
my Brownie Starflash in the fifties have faded a lot. This shot was taken for J 
Walter Thompson, and it was probably my first paid photo assignment that wasn't 
part of a journalism job. I used my Vivitar 20mm 3.5, which wasn't very sharp, 
but I probably had it stopped way down in back. That's my undergrad alma mater, 
Roosevelt University in the background. Brooksie spent some time there as well. 
It's in Adler and Sullivan's late 19th century Auditorium Hotel building. The 
building next door -- I think it's called the Fine Arts Building -- is even 
older. Back then it housed the Studebaker Theater and a coffee shop on the 
lower level frequented by students and the artsy set. The race car is a jet 
powered dragster with some nice body work by an aluminum craftsman named Lee 
Austin.

I suspect Ektachromes formula changed over the years. I think all of mine from 
the seventies are in good shape. (I know the processing chemicals changed in 
the mid seventies from E4 to E6.) Gamma Labs on the west end of downtown 
Chicago processed all of mine.

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Re: Got caught by the Green Button

[Rob Studdert]

On 25 February 2013 04:34, Walt  wrote:
> I've never hit the green button on accident, either.

Becasue the AF is so flaky in low light on the k5 I often have the AF
disconnected from the shutter button so use the dedicated AF button.
The problem is that when using the grip the rear AF button is
positioned in line and close to the green button. Problem solved on
that front though by simply disabling the green button in manual.

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Re: Ektachrome, 1978

[Paul Stenquist]

Thanks Mark. I enjoyed Roosevelt. It was a good environment with small classes 
and a lot of personal attention. It was transformational for me. Still remember 
studying in Grant Park and sneaking up onto the roof of the auditorium building 
to take in some summer sun. I entered as a second semester sophomore transfer 
student in 1969 and graduated in 1971. Good times.
On Feb 24, 2013, at 8:14 PM, Mark C  wrote:

> Great shot of an exceptional vehicle and also of  Michigan Avenue. I did a 6 
> month certificate program an Roosevelt in 1984 - the buildings are just as I 
> remember them...
> 
> Mark
> 
> On 2/24/2013 7:47 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> Here's a 1978 Ektachorme that has largely resisted fading although it was 
>> stored in the dark. I should add that some of the Ektachromes that I shot 
>> with my Brownie Starflash in the fifties have faded a lot. This shot was 
>> taken for J Walter Thompson, and it was probably my first paid photo 
>> assignment that wasn't part of a journalism job. I used my Vivitar 20mm 3.5, 
>> which wasn't very sharp, but I probably had it stopped way down in back. 
>> That's my undergrad alma mater, Roosevelt University in the background. 
>> Brooksie spent some time there as well. It's in Adler and Sullivan's late 
>> 19th century Auditorium Hotel building. The building next door -- I think 
>> it's called the Fine Arts Building -- is even older. Back then it housed the 
>> Studebaker Theater and a coffee shop on the lower level frequented by 
>> students and the artsy set. The race car is a jet powered dragster with some 
>> nice body work by an aluminum craftsman named Lee Austin.
>> 
>> I suspect Ektachromes formula changed over the years. I think all of mine 
>> from the seventies are in good shape. (I know the processing chemicals 
>> changed in the mid seventies from E4 to E6.) Gamma Labs on the west end of 
>> downtown Chicago processed all of mine.
>> 
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16963163&size=lg
> 
> 
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Re: Ektachrome, 1978

[Bruce Walker]

On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 7:52 PM, Bob W  wrote:
>> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Walker
>>
>> Jet powered dragster: too cool. An adolescent's wet dream. :-) Love the
>> shot, Paul.
>
> Wrestling naked in warm mud with Raquel Welch and Ursula Andress are an
> adolescent's wet dream, mate. Jet-propelled dragsters are just sublimation.

You lost me after "Wrestling naked in warm mud with Raquel Welch and
Ursula Andress".


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Re: 1975 Kodachrome

[Bob Sullivan]

Bill,
By 77 the Ektachrome shooting was mine, not Dad's.
But the stuff from the 50's and 60's was his and faded.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Bill  wrote:
> On 23/02/2013 10:49 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
>>
>> Bill,
>> I've seen the same here with my Dad's stuff.
>
> I think it's the E-2 and E-4 process films that are suffering the worst. E-6
> was released in 1977, and seems to be quite a bit more stable.
>
> bill
>
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Re: Film Day 3

[Rick Womer]

Steady Stenquist lives!  The subject's face is sharp, but there is motion blur 
in her hands.  Nicely done, nicely rendered.  There =is= something about film, 
besides the nuisance...

Rick


 
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A coffee shop pic. Again, the Leica iiif RD and Summicron 2.0. This one at f4, 
and converted to BW from the Portra 400 original. 

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