Re: Odd M50/1.4
Collin, how about a photo of the lens? Alan C -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Cowgirl Poetry
I want to slightly amend my earlier comment. This is a pleasing image, but the focus is off significantly. The reason it still works is because some softness can be pleasing in portraiture, but if you look at the stones at her feet, the tree bark and the vegetation behind the subject you can see that the focal plane is behind the tree. Not sure if this was manually focused or autofocused, but you might want to diagnose where the problem lies. On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 9:35 PM, Darren Addy wrote: > I think it is a lovely portrait, just as it is. > > Next in the series, I might have had her put her right hand behind > her, in the small of her back. Then with the same pose have her look > up at the camera. Then perhaps crop in closer to a bit more than a > head & shoulders shot. I can see a whole series of things with slight > changes as we go along. Nice use of the light and you are to commended > for the height of the camera off the ground for this shot. It wouldn't > be as effective if you had been standing and shooting down at her. > Well done. > > On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Stan Halpin > wrote: >> Exactly, Frank. No "right" or "wrong", correct or flawed, in this >> discussion. Just suggestions about other ways to look at a scene. Direct >> gaze, or not? Tight crop, or pull back to show a smallish figure in a large >> world? Sharp or soft? Color or B&W? Any combination of these choices will >> probably provide a decent image. Ultimately, it is your choice as to which >> you like the best, and it is your clients' choice as to which they like the >> best. And BTW you and your clients may totally disagree, and that is ok >> also; their choice may well be ones that are far from your own favorites. >> >> stan >> >> On Jun 22, 2013, at 1:15 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: >> >>> Hey Walt, the crop (or lack thereof) isn't a "flaw". You just haven't tried >>> it yet on this photo. >>> >>> Yeah "cropping in the camera" is most often preferred but not always >>> possible. >>> >>> The crop I'm proposing isn't a drastic one and should be very do-able >>> without screwing up anything. But who knows, it might not work and you'll >>> prefer this framing. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> frank >>> >>> --- Original Message --- >>> >>> From: Walt >>> Sent: June 22, 2013 6/22/13 >>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >>> Subject: Re: PESO: Cowgirl Poetry >>> >>> Thank you, Frank! >>> >>> She was definitely a cute little young lady. She and her mother both >>> seem pleased with the photos I got, and her mother informed me that she >>> definitely wants me to do her fall portraits later this year. >>> >>> Looks like the crop is the biggest flaw in the image -- though the lack >>> of softness in the grass is something I wish I'd picked up on before, as >>> well. So, the shot still needs a bit of work, but I do like the mood I >>> was able to capture. >>> >>> As for your birds, bikes, beasts and blokes, I like the work you're >>> doing and if you're enjoying it, that's the important thing. And I >>> suspect if you really wanted to do shots of pretty girls, you could >>> probably arrange it in fairly short order. :) >>> >>> Thanks again. I do appreciate the input. >>> >>> -- Walt >>> >>> On 6/22/2013 10:24 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: 1) You are my hero. I'm taking bird, bike, beast and bloke photos (and not "bird" in the English slang sense) and here you are hanging around with beautiful young women taking beautiful photos. 2) Like this a lot. Yeah, seeing her eyes would be nice, but that would be a different photo (yes, there's frank stating the obvious again). My point is, this works and creates (or should I say "captures") great mood. Pose, outfit, background, light all work together here. I ~might~ crop just a bit off the left. That space does nothing and getting her a bit more off-centre would make things even more interesting imho. Peel just a bit (equal amounts to maintain the "north/south" balance you have now) off the top and bottom so you keep the same frame dimensions you have now. I think that might be effective, but hell, it's a wonderful photo as is. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Walt Sent: June 21, 2013 6/21/13 To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Subject: PESO: Cowgirl Poetry Here's a shot from a session I picked up through the mother of the girl I photographed earlier in the week. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9102768906/ K-5, F50/1.7, f/2.2, 1/400 sec, ISO 100 I think that's my favorite of the bunch. I'll be selecting my other favorites for posting on flickr over the next few days rather than inflict the full set on everyone before I've had the chance to cull the weakest ones. -- Walt >>> >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http:
Re: Dragonflies and Stack Focused Damselfly
Nice images. Damselfly is particularly crisp and clean. Jack - Original Message - From: Mark C To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Cc: Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 5:37 PM Subject: Dragonflies and Stack Focused Damselfly I visited a prime dragonfly location yesterday, but the cool temps, gusty winds and overcast skies did not make for a high volume shoot. I got 3 nice shots which are here: http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php?blog=2 Permalink: http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/june-odonata-2013 The last shot on the post - the Bluet Damselfly - is a departure for me because it is a focus stacked composition of 16 separate shots. This was compiled in Photoshop. The focus stacking tool there had seemed to be useless to me because it was such a PITA to manually stack images as layers in a single file -but I finally stumbled on a webpage that explains how to use bridge to open multiple files and then make them just layers of one file in Photoshop - ah, life is good. I can see doing more focus stacking in the future - it worked pretty well in the field yesterday. C&C appreciated. Mark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Dragonflies and Stack Focused Damselfly
Excellent work. in focus stacking, do you use the PhotoShop align and blend tools? Superb. Paul On Jun 22, 2013, at 8:37 PM, Mark C wrote: > I visited a prime dragonfly location yesterday, but the cool temps, gusty > winds and overcast skies did not make for a high volume shoot. I got 3 nice > shots which are here: > > http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php?blog=2 > > Permalink: > > http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/june-odonata-2013 > > The last shot on the post - the Bluet Damselfly - is a departure for me > because it is a focus stacked composition of 16 separate shots. This was > compiled in Photoshop. The focus stacking tool there had seemed to be useless > to me because it was such a PITA to manually stack images as layers in a > single file -but I finally stumbled on a webpage that explains how to use > bridge to open multiple files and then make them just layers of one file in > Photoshop - ah, life is good. I can see doing more focus stacking in the > future - it worked pretty well in the field yesterday. > > C&C appreciated. > > Mark > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Dragonflies and Stack Focused Damselfly
Those are gorgeous. Three keeper shots from a single day would be a better-than-average day for me, that's for sure! On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 8:50 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: > Mark, > Beautiful as always, and focus stack works well. > Regards, Bob S. > > On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 7:37 PM, Mark C wrote: >> I visited a prime dragonfly location yesterday, but the cool temps, gusty >> winds and overcast skies did not make for a high volume shoot. I got 3 nice >> shots which are here: >> >> http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php?blog=2 >> >> Permalink: >> >> http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/june-odonata-2013 >> >> The last shot on the post - the Bluet Damselfly - is a departure for me >> because it is a focus stacked composition of 16 separate shots. This was >> compiled in Photoshop. The focus stacking tool there had seemed to be >> useless to me because it was such a PITA to manually stack images as layers >> in a single file -but I finally stumbled on a webpage that explains how >> to use bridge to open multiple files and then make them just layers of one >> file in Photoshop - ah, life is good. I can see doing more focus stacking in >> the future - it worked pretty well in the field yesterday. >> >> C&C appreciated. >> >> Mark >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- "Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art" - Peter Galassi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Cowgirl Poetry
I think it is a lovely portrait, just as it is. Next in the series, I might have had her put her right hand behind her, in the small of her back. Then with the same pose have her look up at the camera. Then perhaps crop in closer to a bit more than a head & shoulders shot. I can see a whole series of things with slight changes as we go along. Nice use of the light and you are to commended for the height of the camera off the ground for this shot. It wouldn't be as effective if you had been standing and shooting down at her. Well done. On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: > Exactly, Frank. No "right" or "wrong", correct or flawed, in this discussion. > Just suggestions about other ways to look at a scene. Direct gaze, or not? > Tight crop, or pull back to show a smallish figure in a large world? Sharp or > soft? Color or B&W? Any combination of these choices will probably provide a > decent image. Ultimately, it is your choice as to which you like the best, > and it is your clients' choice as to which they like the best. And BTW you > and your clients may totally disagree, and that is ok also; their choice may > well be ones that are far from your own favorites. > > stan > > On Jun 22, 2013, at 1:15 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: > >> Hey Walt, the crop (or lack thereof) isn't a "flaw". You just haven't tried >> it yet on this photo. >> >> Yeah "cropping in the camera" is most often preferred but not always >> possible. >> >> The crop I'm proposing isn't a drastic one and should be very do-able >> without screwing up anything. But who knows, it might not work and you'll >> prefer this framing. >> >> Cheers, >> frank >> >> --- Original Message --- >> >> From: Walt >> Sent: June 22, 2013 6/22/13 >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >> Subject: Re: PESO: Cowgirl Poetry >> >> Thank you, Frank! >> >> She was definitely a cute little young lady. She and her mother both >> seem pleased with the photos I got, and her mother informed me that she >> definitely wants me to do her fall portraits later this year. >> >> Looks like the crop is the biggest flaw in the image -- though the lack >> of softness in the grass is something I wish I'd picked up on before, as >> well. So, the shot still needs a bit of work, but I do like the mood I >> was able to capture. >> >> As for your birds, bikes, beasts and blokes, I like the work you're >> doing and if you're enjoying it, that's the important thing. And I >> suspect if you really wanted to do shots of pretty girls, you could >> probably arrange it in fairly short order. :) >> >> Thanks again. I do appreciate the input. >> >> -- Walt >> >> On 6/22/2013 10:24 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: >>> 1) You are my hero. I'm taking bird, bike, beast and bloke photos (and not >>> "bird" in the English slang sense) and here you are hanging around with >>> beautiful young women taking beautiful photos. >>> >>> 2) Like this a lot. Yeah, seeing her eyes would be nice, but that would be >>> a different photo (yes, there's frank stating the obvious again). My point >>> is, this works and creates (or should I say "captures") great mood. Pose, >>> outfit, background, light all work together here. >>> >>> I ~might~ crop just a bit off the left. That space does nothing and getting >>> her a bit more off-centre would make things even more interesting imho. >>> Peel just a bit (equal amounts to maintain the "north/south" balance you >>> have now) off the top and bottom so you keep the same frame dimensions you >>> have now. >>> >>> I think that might be effective, but hell, it's a wonderful photo as is. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> frank >>> >>> --- Original Message --- >>> >>> From: Walt >>> Sent: June 21, 2013 6/21/13 >>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >>> Subject: PESO: Cowgirl Poetry >>> >>> Here's a shot from a session I picked up through the mother of the girl >>> I photographed earlier in the week. >>> >>> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9102768906/ >>> K-5, F50/1.7, f/2.2, 1/400 sec, ISO 100 >>> >>> I think that's my favorite of the bunch. I'll be selecting my other >>> favorites for posting on flickr over the next few days rather than >>> inflict the full set on everyone before I've had the chance to cull the >>> weakest ones. >>> >>> >>> -- Walt >>> >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- "Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art
Re: Dragonflies and Stack Focused Damselfly
Mark, Beautiful as always, and focus stack works well. Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 7:37 PM, Mark C wrote: > I visited a prime dragonfly location yesterday, but the cool temps, gusty > winds and overcast skies did not make for a high volume shoot. I got 3 nice > shots which are here: > > http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php?blog=2 > > Permalink: > > http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/june-odonata-2013 > > The last shot on the post - the Bluet Damselfly - is a departure for me > because it is a focus stacked composition of 16 separate shots. This was > compiled in Photoshop. The focus stacking tool there had seemed to be > useless to me because it was such a PITA to manually stack images as layers > in a single file -but I finally stumbled on a webpage that explains how > to use bridge to open multiple files and then make them just layers of one > file in Photoshop - ah, life is good. I can see doing more focus stacking in > the future - it worked pretty well in the field yesterday. > > C&C appreciated. > > Mark > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Gorgeous eyes
Terrific shot, David. On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 7:05 PM, David Parsons wrote: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/9110031409/ > > We had some friends over for a cookout, and their 8 month old has the > most beautiful eyes. He was sitting in his stroller and I had to get > some shots of him. He was a total ham. > > -- > David Parsons Photography > http://www.davidparsonsphoto.com > > Aloha Photographer Photoblog > http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Dragonflies and Stack Focused Damselfly
I visited a prime dragonfly location yesterday, but the cool temps, gusty winds and overcast skies did not make for a high volume shoot. I got 3 nice shots which are here: http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php?blog=2 Permalink: http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/june-odonata-2013 The last shot on the post - the Bluet Damselfly - is a departure for me because it is a focus stacked composition of 16 separate shots. This was compiled in Photoshop. The focus stacking tool there had seemed to be useless to me because it was such a PITA to manually stack images as layers in a single file -but I finally stumbled on a webpage that explains how to use bridge to open multiple files and then make them just layers of one file in Photoshop - ah, life is good. I can see doing more focus stacking in the future - it worked pretty well in the field yesterday. C&C appreciated. Mark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Cowgirl Poetry
Exactly, Frank. No "right" or "wrong", correct or flawed, in this discussion. Just suggestions about other ways to look at a scene. Direct gaze, or not? Tight crop, or pull back to show a smallish figure in a large world? Sharp or soft? Color or B&W? Any combination of these choices will probably provide a decent image. Ultimately, it is your choice as to which you like the best, and it is your clients' choice as to which they like the best. And BTW you and your clients may totally disagree, and that is ok also; their choice may well be ones that are far from your own favorites. stan On Jun 22, 2013, at 1:15 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: > Hey Walt, the crop (or lack thereof) isn't a "flaw". You just haven't tried > it yet on this photo. > > Yeah "cropping in the camera" is most often preferred but not always > possible. > > The crop I'm proposing isn't a drastic one and should be very do-able without > screwing up anything. But who knows, it might not work and you'll prefer this > framing. > > Cheers, > frank > > --- Original Message --- > > From: Walt > Sent: June 22, 2013 6/22/13 > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Subject: Re: PESO: Cowgirl Poetry > > Thank you, Frank! > > She was definitely a cute little young lady. She and her mother both > seem pleased with the photos I got, and her mother informed me that she > definitely wants me to do her fall portraits later this year. > > Looks like the crop is the biggest flaw in the image -- though the lack > of softness in the grass is something I wish I'd picked up on before, as > well. So, the shot still needs a bit of work, but I do like the mood I > was able to capture. > > As for your birds, bikes, beasts and blokes, I like the work you're > doing and if you're enjoying it, that's the important thing. And I > suspect if you really wanted to do shots of pretty girls, you could > probably arrange it in fairly short order. :) > > Thanks again. I do appreciate the input. > > -- Walt > > On 6/22/2013 10:24 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: >> 1) You are my hero. I'm taking bird, bike, beast and bloke photos (and not >> "bird" in the English slang sense) and here you are hanging around with >> beautiful young women taking beautiful photos. >> >> 2) Like this a lot. Yeah, seeing her eyes would be nice, but that would be a >> different photo (yes, there's frank stating the obvious again). My point is, >> this works and creates (or should I say "captures") great mood. Pose, >> outfit, background, light all work together here. >> >> I ~might~ crop just a bit off the left. That space does nothing and getting >> her a bit more off-centre would make things even more interesting imho. Peel >> just a bit (equal amounts to maintain the "north/south" balance you have >> now) off the top and bottom so you keep the same frame dimensions you have >> now. >> >> I think that might be effective, but hell, it's a wonderful photo as is. >> >> Cheers, >> frank >> >> --- Original Message --- >> >> From: Walt >> Sent: June 21, 2013 6/21/13 >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >> Subject: PESO: Cowgirl Poetry >> >> Here's a shot from a session I picked up through the mother of the girl >> I photographed earlier in the week. >> >> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9102768906/ >> K-5, F50/1.7, f/2.2, 1/400 sec, ISO 100 >> >> I think that's my favorite of the bunch. I'll be selecting my other >> favorites for posting on flickr over the next few days rather than >> inflict the full set on everyone before I've had the chance to cull the >> weakest ones. >> >> >> -- Walt >> > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Flamingo, late afternoon
Quoting Darren Addy : http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/9104396736/ Taken during my granddaughter's first trip to the Henry Doorly Zoo. Great shot. The texture and colours of the feathers on the bird's back are particularly appealing. I agree with Jack about adding a bit on the left to move the bird's tail away from the edge. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Gorgeous eyes
http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/9110031409/ We had some friends over for a cookout, and their 8 month old has the most beautiful eyes. He was sitting in his stroller and I had to get some shots of him. He was a total ham. -- David Parsons Photography http://www.davidparsonsphoto.com Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Blanca Peak
Quoting Igor Roshchin : Brian, That's a great photo! Before I saw other people's (and your own) comments, my first reaction was: "That's a photo worth going on a trip to the US". Thanks, Igor. The Alamosa area proved to be one of the more interesting places we visited. We weren't expecting much (we only booked to stay there because it's the closest town to the Great Sand Dunes NP), but the landscape around the town is stunning. Thanks to all who looked and/or commented. It seems that Jack and I were the only ones who had some misgivings about the image. I was a bit concerned that HDR Efex had 'over-cooked' it a bit. I still may do some work on it to reduce the intensity of the colour of the foreground (but I will keep the original version, Bruce :-)> ). Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 10:29 PM, Brian Walters wrote: G'day all Slowly working through the images from my USA trip. Here's one taken around dusk from Alamosa, Colorado. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP2364-K5-1peso.html http://tinyurl.com/myv7k69 Pentax K-5 with 55-300 DA - blend of three images processed in Nik HDR Efex Pro 2 and cropped. Comments appreciated. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: TYTimes blog: A lost interview with HCB
Probably Gassman. He did much of HCB's darkroom work. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Mark Roberts Sent: June 22, 2013 6/22/13 To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Subject: Re: TYTimes blog: A lost interview with HCB Bob W wrote: >On 22 Jun 2013, at 21:39, "knarftheria...@gmail.com" > wrote: > >> He might have felt differently were he a landscape or nature photographer, >> but he never could be those, could he? > >He was a brilliant landscape photographer - even published a book of them. I had an HDC calendar with a couple of his landscape photos in it. They were brilliant. Made me wonder who made his prints for him as I gather he didn't do his own darkroom work. -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: TYTimes blog: A lost interview with HCB
I think you're mistaken. HCB did reportage. Ansel Adams did landscapes. You're probably confusing them. Don't feel bad. It could happen to anyone. Cheers, frank, using attempted humour to cover his feelings of humiliation --- Original Message --- From: Bob W Sent: June 22, 2013 6/22/13 To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Subject: Re: TYTimes blog: A lost interview with HCB He was a brilliant landscape photographer - even published a book of them. B > [...] > > --- Original Message --- > > From: Mark Roberts > Sent: June 22, 2013 6/22/13 > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Subject: Re: TYTimes blog: A lost interview with HCB > > Paul Stenquist wrote: > >> HCB is someone whose work I admire greatly but whose opinions about >> photography, art and life for that matter I often find strange and >> lacking in substance. > > My sentiments exactly. I absolutely love much of his work. > Hearing/reading him talk about it always sours me on him. > > -- > Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia > www.robertstech.com > > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: TYTimes blog: A lost interview with HCB
Bob W wrote: >On 22 Jun 2013, at 21:39, "knarftheria...@gmail.com" > wrote: > >> He might have felt differently were he a landscape or nature photographer, >> but he never could be those, could he? > >He was a brilliant landscape photographer - even published a book of them. I had an HDC calendar with a couple of his landscape photos in it. They were brilliant. Made me wonder who made his prints for him as I gather he didn't do his own darkroom work. -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: TYTimes blog: A lost interview with HCB
On 22 Jun 2013, at 21:39, "knarftheria...@gmail.com" wrote: > He might have felt differently were he a landscape or nature photographer, > but he never could be those, could he? He was a brilliant landscape photographer - even published a book of them. B > [...] > > --- Original Message --- > > From: Mark Roberts > Sent: June 22, 2013 6/22/13 > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Subject: Re: TYTimes blog: A lost interview with HCB > > Paul Stenquist wrote: > >> HCB is someone whose work I admire greatly but whose opinions about >> photography, art and life for that matter I often find strange and >> lacking in substance. > > My sentiments exactly. I absolutely love much of his work. > Hearing/reading him talk about it always sours me on him. > > -- > Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia > www.robertstech.com > > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: TYTimes blog: A lost interview with HCB
On 22 Jun 2013, at 19:55, Paul Stenquist wrote: > Yes, thanks much. HCB is someone whose work I admire greatly but whose > opinions about photography, art and life for that matter I often find strange > and lacking in substance. He would have been ideally suited to an internet photography list. The French delight in things that the Anglo-saxon nations find baffling. Here is what the writer Colette had to say about a zoo in Normandy: "At Cleres in the zoo-park it is easy to lose the melancholy feeling of inevitability". Vive l'exception française! Dis-je. B > > Paul > On Jun 22, 2013, at 2:19 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: > >> Wonderful interview. >> >> Thanks for posting! >> >> cheers, >> frank >> >> --- Original Message --- >> >> From: Darren Addy >> Sent: June 20, 2013 6/20/13 >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >> Subject: TYTimes blog: A lost interview with HCB >> >> http://lens.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/06/20/henri-cartier-bresson-living-and-looking/?smid=tw-share&_r=1 >> >> >> >> -- >> "Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art" - >> Peter Galassi >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: TYTimes blog: A lost interview with HCB
Love the guy. I tend to agree with much of what he says, or at least understand where he's coming from. He always considered himself a surrealist who happened to use a camera to realize his vision (I hesitate to use the term "art"). Towards the end of his life he stopped shooting altogether (except "snapshots" for personal purposes). He drew, sketched, painted. The camera was no longer any use to him. Hey, I can see why he says what he does about photography schools and photojournalism. Geez, he invented himself as he went along. He was pure spontaneity with a camera. You can't teach that. And even if you could it wasn't there to teach when he was shooting. He might have felt differently were he a landscape or nature photographer, but he never could be those, could he? He always had a knack for being where the action was, but not to capture it as newsworthy event. That was secondary. The event, like the camera, was a means of expressing his surrealism. I probably am not expressing myself well (probably?) but I totally get him. And I mostly agree although I recognize that much of what he says applies only to him and not the general public or other photographers. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Mark Roberts Sent: June 22, 2013 6/22/13 To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Subject: Re: TYTimes blog: A lost interview with HCB Paul Stenquist wrote: >HCB is someone whose work I admire greatly but whose opinions about >photography, art and life for that matter I often find strange and >lacking in substance. My sentiments exactly. I absolutely love much of his work. Hearing/reading him talk about it always sours me on him. -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Odd M50/1.4
On 6/22/2013 3:47 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: There is indeed an M28/2.8 Type II lens. The aperture and glass is the same as the A28/2.8, but no A setting. That's a well known variation and desirably sharper than the M28/2.8. I've never hears of an M50/1.4 version A variation. Regards, Bob the collector... On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Darren Addy wrote: There is an odd "type 2" M28 that appears to be an A lens in all respects, except lacking the "A" setting and connections which gives even more evidence of being made in a "transitional" period, so I would guess that your original "transitional" theory is likely the correct one. It would be interesting to know the serial number and see how far off it is from the earliest A lenses. On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 9:21 AM, P.J. Alling wrote: I've been told that by competent repair people, more's the pity. On 6/22/2013 7:31 AM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: Who is to say that all the parts are original? "A" glass does not fit the "M" package. The glass carrier system is entirely different. -- There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard drive failure, and those that will. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- "Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art" - Peter Galassi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. all the M50mmf1.4 I have owned have had a bluish tint to the coatings. To get amber you have to go back to the super-takumar version of the 50mmF1.4 -- J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net -- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Odd M50/1.4
There is indeed an M28/2.8 Type II lens. The aperture and glass is the same as the A28/2.8, but no A setting. That's a well known variation and desirably sharper than the M28/2.8. I've never hears of an M50/1.4 version A variation. Regards, Bob the collector... On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Darren Addy wrote: > There is an odd "type 2" M28 that appears to be an A lens in all > respects, except lacking the "A" setting and connections which gives > even more evidence of being made in a "transitional" period, so I > would guess that your original "transitional" theory is likely the > correct one. It would be interesting to know the serial number and see > how far off it is from the earliest A lenses. > > On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 9:21 AM, P.J. Alling > wrote: >> I've been told that by competent repair people, more's the pity. >> >> >> On 6/22/2013 7:31 AM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: Who is to say that all the parts are original? >>> >>> "A" glass does not fit the "M" package. The glass carrier system is >>> entirely different. >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard drive >> failure, and those that will. >> >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > > > -- > "Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art" - > Peter Galassi > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: TYTimes blog: A lost interview with HCB
Paul Stenquist wrote: >HCB is someone whose work I admire greatly but whose opinions about >photography, art and life for that matter I often find strange and >lacking in substance. My sentiments exactly. I absolutely love much of his work. Hearing/reading him talk about it always sours me on him. -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: TYTimes blog: A lost interview with HCB
Yes, thanks much. HCB is someone whose work I admire greatly but whose opinions about photography, art and life for that matter I often find strange and lacking in substance. Paul On Jun 22, 2013, at 2:19 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: > Wonderful interview. > > Thanks for posting! > > cheers, > frank > > --- Original Message --- > > From: Darren Addy > Sent: June 20, 2013 6/20/13 > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Subject: TYTimes blog: A lost interview with HCB > > http://lens.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/06/20/henri-cartier-bresson-living-and-looking/?smid=tw-share&_r=1 > > > > -- > "Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art" - > Peter Galassi > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT GESO - Nighties
Nice gallery, Derby! Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: > I quite enjoyed your nightlife survey, Derby. But #1 is great! The > timing is perfect. > > On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Derby Chang wrote: >> >> Our show at the library had an artist talk yesterday, which was lots of fun. >> People who weren't related to us actually turned up. >> >> Afterwards, I went off do replenish the archive with some night streeties >> >> http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/13/06/nighties/index.html >> >> I know I shouldn't let little things get to me. But sometime during the >> nighties, the main dial on the OM-D popped off. Turns out this is a common >> problem. Oh well. Maybe Olympus will send me a free spare. >> >> >> -- >> >> der...@iinet.net.au >> http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > > > -- > -bmw > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boris PESO 2013 #30 - Two worlds
The chimp's looking at you, Boris. He's wondering how you managed to get that side of the glass, and why you keep looking at the back of the camera and going 'ooh, ooh, ooh!'. B On 22 Jun 2013, at 18:34, Boris Liberman wrote: > Hi! > > I really find it fascinating to observe people and chimps communicating > through this glass barrier... I wish I could just spend a whole day sitting > in the shade in front of this location... > > http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2013/06/2013-30-two-worlds.html > > B&H comments as usual will be appreciated. > > Boris > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: TYTimes blog: A lost interview with HCB
Wonderful interview. Thanks for posting! cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Darren Addy Sent: June 20, 2013 6/20/13 To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Subject: TYTimes blog: A lost interview with HCB http://lens.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/06/20/henri-cartier-bresson-living-and-looking/?smid=tw-share&_r=1 -- "Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art" - Peter Galassi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: TYTimes blog: A lost interview with HCB
"I don’t know if photography is an art or not an art. I have no idea of all this." cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Darren Addy Sent: June 20, 2013 6/20/13 To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Subject: TYTimes blog: A lost interview with HCB http://lens.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/06/20/henri-cartier-bresson-living-and-looking/?smid=tw-share&_r=1 -- "Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art" - Peter Galassi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New FF rumour from France
Ralf, it can also be a higher than K-5II(s) end camera with APS-C sensor sporting 24 MP. Still a good step up for Pentax, but the FF'ness of the new camera's sensor is purely circumstantial, so to say :-). On 6/22/2013 3:44 PM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: Usually well-informed French magazine Réponses Photo has a short piece on the K-50 and the K-500. But the really interesting bit of information comes at the very end of the article: "We would have hoped for some more audacity. But let's wait a little, as it might well be that the end of the year will have a nice surprise in store for us, in the semi-pro range, somewhere between the K-5II and the 645D..." Ralf -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Odd M50/1.4
There is an odd "type 2" M28 that appears to be an A lens in all respects, except lacking the "A" setting and connections which gives even more evidence of being made in a "transitional" period, so I would guess that your original "transitional" theory is likely the correct one. It would be interesting to know the serial number and see how far off it is from the earliest A lenses. On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 9:21 AM, P.J. Alling wrote: > I've been told that by competent repair people, more's the pity. > > > On 6/22/2013 7:31 AM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: >>> >>> Who is to say that all the parts are original? >> >> "A" glass does not fit the "M" package. The glass carrier system is >> entirely different. >> >> > > > -- > There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard drive > failure, and those that will. > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- "Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art" - Peter Galassi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: TYTimes blog: A lost interview with HCB
If my high school English class serves me well, Ezra Pound was a unique and eccentric fellow. Maybe he was saving his words? I enjoyed the article as well. HBC was my kind of guy. Take the time to 'be here now'. Wish I could shoot like him. Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: > A fascinating read. Thanks for pointing that out, Darren. > > Really enjoyed his feelings on portraiture. One and half wordless > hours studying Ezra Pound. Six frames, one keeper. Yoiks. > > On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 5:12 PM, Darren Addy wrote: >> http://lens.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/06/20/henri-cartier-bresson-living-and-looking/?smid=tw-share&_r=1 >> >> >> >> -- >> "Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art" - >> Peter Galassi >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > > > -- > -bmw > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Boris PESO 2013 #30 - Two worlds
Hi! I really find it fascinating to observe people and chimps communicating through this glass barrier... I wish I could just spend a whole day sitting in the shade in front of this location... http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2013/06/2013-30-two-worlds.html B&H comments as usual will be appreciated. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Update on mirror problem of my K-5
I think you have the answer, Boris. Jack - Original Message - From: Boris Liberman To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Cc: Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 10:27 AM Subject: Update on mirror problem of my K-5 Hi! I've sent an inquiry to CRIS a week ago but no response so far. I'm not buildin' up any hopes though. Meanwhile I risked to use this camera for another shoot at Galia's school. Shot 140 or so frames, most with flash, a dozen or so in rapid machine gun mode (fast continuous). It just worked - AF, metering, and everything. I am inclined to just declare that the incident I reported earlier was an oopsie and not a sign of any impending sky-fall. On I go with what I have - I don't feel like I need anything at the moment - Sigma lens is great, Metz flash is wonderful, my Pentax primes on Ricoh GXR-M module are excellent. I only need to find time to do actual shooting, besides being asked to shoot on occasion. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Update on mirror problem of my K-5
Hi! I've sent an inquiry to CRIS a week ago but no response so far. I'm not buildin' up any hopes though. Meanwhile I risked to use this camera for another shoot at Galia's school. Shot 140 or so frames, most with flash, a dozen or so in rapid machine gun mode (fast continuous). It just worked - AF, metering, and everything. I am inclined to just declare that the incident I reported earlier was an oopsie and not a sign of any impending sky-fall. On I go with what I have - I don't feel like I need anything at the moment - Sigma lens is great, Metz flash is wonderful, my Pentax primes on Ricoh GXR-M module are excellent. I only need to find time to do actual shooting, besides being asked to shoot on occasion. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom
I've LR since the day it could have been bought here... Each major (like the first digit in version number) upgrade brings among other things new processing engine. Further, the old ones are still available. This is alone a good reason for upgrading to the latest version. Speaking of which, I should take steps towards getting me LR 5.0, I suppose. On 6/21/2013 7:00 PM, George Sinos wrote: For me, the new process engine was enough reason to upgrade to 4. the speed increase and healing brush were enough reasons to upgrade to 5. The healing brush eliminates a need to jump to photoshop and back. All of the other improvements were frosting on the cake. At $79, it's likely to be the least expensive purchase that will actually help you improve your photos and reduce your post processing time. gs George Sinos www.GeorgesPhotos.net www.GeorgeSinos.com On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Eric Weir wrote: I am still at Lightroom 3. Should I upgrade? To 4 or 5? Thanks, -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net "Style is truth." - Ray Bradbury -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New camera
Playing devil's advocate here. But, Thomas, if you only need a camera body to put behind your 35 mm prime, then may be the likes of Ricoh GXR with the 33/2.5 (aka 50 macro) lensor module would suit you. It is not AF speed devil, obviously, but given that it shares the sensor with K-x, K-r and several other cameras - it does produces wonderful photographs with just a small portion of size, weight and general bulk of DSLR, no matter how small the DSLR might be. Boris On 6/22/2013 12:55 AM, Thomas Bohn wrote: Hello, currently I use an K-m, which is nice but the auto focus of that camera is annoying. So I think it is time to think about something new. For me there are a few options. 1st, I get the new K-500, which should be a nice upgrade to my K-m. And should be cheap to get. 2nd, I get an K-50, has some enhancements to the K-500 like an electronic level but it is more expensive. 3rd, I get a K-30, it should be cheaper now and the difference to the K-50 seems minimal for my taste. My plan is actually to get rid of most of my equipment, I have not used my flash for while, I don't use my Kit lense and only my tripod is sometimes useful. So I really just need a body to go with my 35 mm prime lense. What do you think? Thomas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Cowgirl Poetry
Hey Walt, the crop (or lack thereof) isn't a "flaw". You just haven't tried it yet on this photo. Yeah "cropping in the camera" is most often preferred but not always possible. The crop I'm proposing isn't a drastic one and should be very do-able without screwing up anything. But who knows, it might not work and you'll prefer this framing. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Walt Sent: June 22, 2013 6/22/13 To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Subject: Re: PESO: Cowgirl Poetry Thank you, Frank! She was definitely a cute little young lady. She and her mother both seem pleased with the photos I got, and her mother informed me that she definitely wants me to do her fall portraits later this year. Looks like the crop is the biggest flaw in the image -- though the lack of softness in the grass is something I wish I'd picked up on before, as well. So, the shot still needs a bit of work, but I do like the mood I was able to capture. As for your birds, bikes, beasts and blokes, I like the work you're doing and if you're enjoying it, that's the important thing. And I suspect if you really wanted to do shots of pretty girls, you could probably arrange it in fairly short order. :) Thanks again. I do appreciate the input. -- Walt On 6/22/2013 10:24 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: > 1) You are my hero. I'm taking bird, bike, beast and bloke photos (and not > "bird" in the English slang sense) and here you are hanging around with > beautiful young women taking beautiful photos. > > 2) Like this a lot. Yeah, seeing her eyes would be nice, but that would be a > different photo (yes, there's frank stating the obvious again). My point is, > this works and creates (or should I say "captures") great mood. Pose, outfit, > background, light all work together here. > > I ~might~ crop just a bit off the left. That space does nothing and getting > her a bit more off-centre would make things even more interesting imho. Peel > just a bit (equal amounts to maintain the "north/south" balance you have now) > off the top and bottom so you keep the same frame dimensions you have now. > > I think that might be effective, but hell, it's a wonderful photo as is. > > Cheers, > frank > > --- Original Message --- > > From: Walt > Sent: June 21, 2013 6/21/13 > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Subject: PESO: Cowgirl Poetry > > Here's a shot from a session I picked up through the mother of the girl > I photographed earlier in the week. > > http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9102768906/ > K-5, F50/1.7, f/2.2, 1/400 sec, ISO 100 > > I think that's my favorite of the bunch. I'll be selecting my other > favorites for posting on flickr over the next few days rather than > inflict the full set on everyone before I've had the chance to cull the > weakest ones. > > > -- Walt > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Cowgirl Poetry
Thank you, Frank! She was definitely a cute little young lady. She and her mother both seem pleased with the photos I got, and her mother informed me that she definitely wants me to do her fall portraits later this year. Looks like the crop is the biggest flaw in the image -- though the lack of softness in the grass is something I wish I'd picked up on before, as well. So, the shot still needs a bit of work, but I do like the mood I was able to capture. As for your birds, bikes, beasts and blokes, I like the work you're doing and if you're enjoying it, that's the important thing. And I suspect if you really wanted to do shots of pretty girls, you could probably arrange it in fairly short order. :) Thanks again. I do appreciate the input. -- Walt On 6/22/2013 10:24 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: 1) You are my hero. I'm taking bird, bike, beast and bloke photos (and not "bird" in the English slang sense) and here you are hanging around with beautiful young women taking beautiful photos. 2) Like this a lot. Yeah, seeing her eyes would be nice, but that would be a different photo (yes, there's frank stating the obvious again). My point is, this works and creates (or should I say "captures") great mood. Pose, outfit, background, light all work together here. I ~might~ crop just a bit off the left. That space does nothing and getting her a bit more off-centre would make things even more interesting imho. Peel just a bit (equal amounts to maintain the "north/south" balance you have now) off the top and bottom so you keep the same frame dimensions you have now. I think that might be effective, but hell, it's a wonderful photo as is. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Walt Sent: June 21, 2013 6/21/13 To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Subject: PESO: Cowgirl Poetry Here's a shot from a session I picked up through the mother of the girl I photographed earlier in the week. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9102768906/ K-5, F50/1.7, f/2.2, 1/400 sec, ISO 100 I think that's my favorite of the bunch. I'll be selecting my other favorites for posting on flickr over the next few days rather than inflict the full set on everyone before I've had the chance to cull the weakest ones. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - The Early Bird
Actually the 1.7x AF adapter. Makes for a 510mm focal length and I'd have to go back and look at the original file, but IIRC that was the middle third of the frame. Distance was maybe ~25 ~30 yards, you can read that as meters and it's probably about as accurate, which doesn't sound like much, but when you're photographing song bird sized objects it's a long ways. On 6/22/2013 12:29 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Yes it does work! I recall when you posted it as a PESO. Nice sharp photo of a bird with attitude. So you said 300mm + 1.4x converter? How far were you away? cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: "P.J. Alling" Sent: June 22, 2013 6/22/13 To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Subject: Re: PESO - The Early Bird Yea, that's because it points to the file on my local machine and not to the page at my dropbox account. This should work. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20tinytrex.html On 6/22/2013 11:34 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Link wouldn't work for me. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: "P.J. Alling" Sent: June 21, 2013 6/21/13 To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Subject: Re: PESO - The Early Bird I don't know what Frank used but for this one I used the A*300mm f4.0 with 1.7x AF converter and cropped quite a bit. file:///D:/Dropbox/Public/PESO/PESO%20--%20tinytrex.html It was a while ago but IIRC the bird was quite some ways away. On 6/21/2013 11:40 AM, Walt wrote: Great catch, Frank! It's really tough to get a good shot of a robin, at least in my experience. And believe me; I've tried. I've never been able to get quite that close. What lens did you use? -- Walt On 6/19/2013 6:21 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Extreme Robin action. Not for the squeamish or members of PETW (people for the ethical treatment of worms): http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/06/the-early-bird.html?m=1 On the other hand there's the Martin Luther connection. Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome. Cheers, frank "For me, the camera is a sketch book, an instrument of intuition and spontaneity." -- Henri Cartier-Bresson -- There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard drive failure, and those that will. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Cowgirl Poetry
On 6/22/2013 9:37 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: Walt, I love the mood, the light and the girl's casual pose. But while the soft-focus lends a dreamy air, I'm bothered by the sharp, in-focus grass a few feet beyond the subject. I think that soft-focus works best when the entire scene is diffuse rather than merely shifting the focus plane back. I see what you're talking about, now. Don't know why I didn't notice it in post-processing. I reckon I need to soften that grass up a bit more. BTW, suggestion for something to try: attach a small piece of fine, sheer nylon stocking over the lens with an elastic band. Adds a unique textured diffusion to the image. Cool idea! I'll give that a shot sometime. I think that Stan's comments re the framing are good. Try cropping so the tree becomes the LH frame. I don't agree about the necessity to see the subject's eye. A profile portrait is perfectly valid and her downward gaze suggests we're catching a private moment-- maybe wistful thoughts? -- maybe dreamy thoughts which support the dreamy look of the shot. That's precisely the mood I was going for. Maybe with a little more softening on the grass and cropping I can get rid of the distracting elements to bring the whole thing around a little better. BTW -- I picked up a softbox yesterday, and a mount that will allow me to put my flash unit on a tripod. I didn't have quite enough money for a bona fide light stand, but I figure a tripod will do for the time being. Thanks again! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT GESO - Nighties
Agree with Bruce! cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Bruce Walker Sent: June 22, 2013 6/22/13 To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Subject: Re: OT GESO - Nighties I quite enjoyed your nightlife survey, Derby. But #1 is great! The timing is perfect. On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Derby Chang wrote: > > Our show at the library had an artist talk yesterday, which was lots of fun. > People who weren't related to us actually turned up. > > Afterwards, I went off do replenish the archive with some night streeties > > http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/13/06/nighties/index.html > > I know I shouldn't let little things get to me. But sometime during the > nighties, the main dial on the OM-D popped off. Turns out this is a common > problem. Oh well. Maybe Olympus will send me a free spare. > > > -- > > der...@iinet.net.au > http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Cowgirl Poetry
Thanks, Stan. I did get some shots in that spot where she's looking at the camera. I'll share the rest once I've gone through them again and picked out my favorites from the bunch. I'll see what I can do on the crop on this one as well. -- Walt On 6/21/2013 3:42 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: A nice moody pensive shot. If this is who the young lady is, and this is how she wants others to see her, then I think you can claim success. I'll offer a couple of things to think about for next time. First, I am bothered by the open space to the left of the tree. I think the composition might have been a little stronger if the young lady were not so centered in the image, if the left edge were cropped substantially. Better done in the camera angle at the time; cropping now might leave a too weirdly proportioned shot. Though you could also take some from the top to balance . . . Second, from my own experience and from the suggestions periodically received from Waller, Sullivan and others, in wildlife photography the eye is the thing. If a critter's eye(s) is/are sharp and detailed then you are well on the way to an appealing photo. I think this is true of people portraiture as well. In this shot, because the young lady's eyes are not visible, it is hard to connect with her. If she were looking up a little, towards the camera, I think it would be stronger. stan On Jun 21, 2013, at 1:57 PM, Walt wrote: Here's a shot from a session I picked up through the mother of the girl I photographed earlier in the week. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9102768906/ K-5, F50/1.7, f/2.2, 1/400 sec, ISO 100 I think that's my favorite of the bunch. I'll be selecting my other favorites for posting on flickr over the next few days rather than inflict the full set on everyone before I've had the chance to cull the weakest ones. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - The Early Bird
Yes it does work! I recall when you posted it as a PESO. Nice sharp photo of a bird with attitude. So you said 300mm + 1.4x converter? How far were you away? cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: "P.J. Alling" Sent: June 22, 2013 6/22/13 To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Subject: Re: PESO - The Early Bird Yea, that's because it points to the file on my local machine and not to the page at my dropbox account. This should work. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20tinytrex.html On 6/22/2013 11:34 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: > Link wouldn't work for me. > > Cheers, > frank > > --- Original Message --- > > From: "P.J. Alling" > Sent: June 21, 2013 6/21/13 > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Subject: Re: PESO - The Early Bird > > I don't know what Frank used but for this one I used the A*300mm f4.0 > with 1.7x AF converter and cropped quite a bit. > > file:///D:/Dropbox/Public/PESO/PESO%20--%20tinytrex.html > > It was a while ago but IIRC the bird was quite some ways away. > > > On 6/21/2013 11:40 AM, Walt wrote: >> Great catch, Frank! It's really tough to get a good shot of a robin, >> at least in my experience. And believe me; I've tried. >> >> I've never been able to get quite that close. What lens did you use? >> >> -- Walt >> >> On 6/19/2013 6:21 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: >>> Extreme Robin action. Not for the squeamish or members of PETW >>> (people for the ethical treatment of worms): >>> >>> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/06/the-early-bird.html?m=1 >>> >>> On the other hand there's the Martin Luther connection. >>> >>> Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> frank >>> >>> >>> "For me, the camera is a sketch book, an instrument of intuition and >>> spontaneity." -- Henri Cartier-Bresson >> > -- There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard drive failure, and those that will. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT GESO - Nighties
I quite enjoyed your nightlife survey, Derby. But #1 is great! The timing is perfect. On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Derby Chang wrote: > > Our show at the library had an artist talk yesterday, which was lots of fun. > People who weren't related to us actually turned up. > > Afterwards, I went off do replenish the archive with some night streeties > > http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/13/06/nighties/index.html > > I know I shouldn't let little things get to me. But sometime during the > nighties, the main dial on the OM-D popped off. Turns out this is a common > problem. Oh well. Maybe Olympus will send me a free spare. > > > -- > > der...@iinet.net.au > http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New FF rumour from France
On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 02:44:40PM +0200, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: > Usually well-informed French magazine Réponses Photo has a short piece > on the K-50 and the K-500. But the really interesting bit of information > comes at the very end of the article: > > "We would have hoped for some more audacity. But let's wait a little, as > it might well be that the end of the year will have a nice surprise in > store for us, in the semi-pro range, somewhere between the K-5II and the > 645D..." It would be very convenient for me if it were coming out now, as I'm actively shopping. Although, it is actively convenient for my pocketbook that I am constrained to looking at a K-5II for under $1,000 rather than something that will likely cost twice that. > > Ralf > > -- > Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany > Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com > Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf > Web : http://www.fotoralf.de > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - The Early Bird
Yea, that's because it points to the file on my local machine and not to the page at my dropbox account. This should work. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20tinytrex.html On 6/22/2013 11:34 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Link wouldn't work for me. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: "P.J. Alling" Sent: June 21, 2013 6/21/13 To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Subject: Re: PESO - The Early Bird I don't know what Frank used but for this one I used the A*300mm f4.0 with 1.7x AF converter and cropped quite a bit. file:///D:/Dropbox/Public/PESO/PESO%20--%20tinytrex.html It was a while ago but IIRC the bird was quite some ways away. On 6/21/2013 11:40 AM, Walt wrote: Great catch, Frank! It's really tough to get a good shot of a robin, at least in my experience. And believe me; I've tried. I've never been able to get quite that close. What lens did you use? -- Walt On 6/19/2013 6:21 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Extreme Robin action. Not for the squeamish or members of PETW (people for the ethical treatment of worms): http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/06/the-early-bird.html?m=1 On the other hand there's the Martin Luther connection. Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome. Cheers, frank "For me, the camera is a sketch book, an instrument of intuition and spontaneity." -- Henri Cartier-Bresson -- There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard drive failure, and those that will. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - The Early Bird
Link wouldn't work for me. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: "P.J. Alling" Sent: June 21, 2013 6/21/13 To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Subject: Re: PESO - The Early Bird I don't know what Frank used but for this one I used the A*300mm f4.0 with 1.7x AF converter and cropped quite a bit. file:///D:/Dropbox/Public/PESO/PESO%20--%20tinytrex.html It was a while ago but IIRC the bird was quite some ways away. On 6/21/2013 11:40 AM, Walt wrote: > Great catch, Frank! It's really tough to get a good shot of a robin, > at least in my experience. And believe me; I've tried. > > I've never been able to get quite that close. What lens did you use? > > -- Walt > > On 6/19/2013 6:21 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: >> Extreme Robin action. Not for the squeamish or members of PETW >> (people for the ethical treatment of worms): >> >> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/06/the-early-bird.html?m=1 >> >> On the other hand there's the Martin Luther connection. >> >> Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome. >> >> Cheers, >> frank >> >> >> "For me, the camera is a sketch book, an instrument of intuition and >> spontaneity." -- Henri Cartier-Bresson > > -- There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard drive failure, and those that will. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - The Early Bird
M 200mm f4.0. I dunno, maybe 10 feet away? Maybe less. I gotta get pretty close for the birdy close-ups I get. Have to very stealthy. Well, not stealthy because I'm often in the open, more that I have to be very slow, quiet and deliberate. And be prepared for the little guys to flit off before I get the shot I want. But some days I manage a keeper or two if I'm lucky. Other days (like today), nothing. Oh well, day not half over yet. Left the Lake, heading downtown for urban grit. Different approach required. ;-) Thanks for the comment, Walt. And thanks to all who looked and commented. Much appreciated! Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Walt Sent: June 21, 2013 6/21/13 To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Subject: Re: PESO - The Early Bird Great catch, Frank! It's really tough to get a good shot of a robin, at least in my experience. And believe me; I've tried. I've never been able to get quite that close. What lens did you use? -- Walt On 6/19/2013 6:21 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: > Extreme Robin action. Not for the squeamish or members of PETW (people for > the ethical treatment of worms): > > http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/06/the-early-bird.html?m=1 > > On the other hand there's the Martin Luther connection. > > Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome. > > Cheers, > frank > > > > "For me, the camera is a sketch book, an instrument of intuition and > spontaneity." -- Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO: Cowgirl Poetry
1) You are my hero. I'm taking bird, bike, beast and bloke photos (and not "bird" in the English slang sense) and here you are hanging around with beautiful young women taking beautiful photos. 2) Like this a lot. Yeah, seeing her eyes would be nice, but that would be a different photo (yes, there's frank stating the obvious again). My point is, this works and creates (or should I say "captures") great mood. Pose, outfit, background, light all work together here. I ~might~ crop just a bit off the left. That space does nothing and getting her a bit more off-centre would make things even more interesting imho. Peel just a bit (equal amounts to maintain the "north/south" balance you have now) off the top and bottom so you keep the same frame dimensions you have now. I think that might be effective, but hell, it's a wonderful photo as is. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Walt Sent: June 21, 2013 6/21/13 To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Subject: PESO: Cowgirl Poetry Here's a shot from a session I picked up through the mother of the girl I photographed earlier in the week. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9102768906/ K-5, F50/1.7, f/2.2, 1/400 sec, ISO 100 I think that's my favorite of the bunch. I'll be selecting my other favorites for posting on flickr over the next few days rather than inflict the full set on everyone before I've had the chance to cull the weakest ones. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Flamingo, late afternoon
What Frank said. But were it mine, I would probably desaturate a bit and tweak the curve to boost midrange brightness, while pegging the highlights so they remain fixed as shown here. Paul On Jun 22, 2013, at 11:12 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: > Beautiful light! That along with the colours and composition make for a > compelling photo. Thankfully, no hints of "zoo-ness" there, looks all natural. > > Cheers, > frank > > --- Original Message --- > > From: Darren Addy > Sent: June 21, 2013 6/21/13 > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Subject: PESO - Flamingo, late afternoon > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/9104396736/ > > Taken during my granddaughter's first trip to the Henry Doorly Zoo. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: TYTimes blog: A lost interview with HCB
A fascinating read. Thanks for pointing that out, Darren. Really enjoyed his feelings on portraiture. One and half wordless hours studying Ezra Pound. Six frames, one keeper. Yoiks. On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 5:12 PM, Darren Addy wrote: > http://lens.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/06/20/henri-cartier-bresson-living-and-looking/?smid=tw-share&_r=1 > > > > -- > "Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art" - > Peter Galassi > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - Flamingo, late afternoon
Beautiful light! That along with the colours and composition make for a compelling photo. Thankfully, no hints of "zoo-ness" there, looks all natural. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Darren Addy Sent: June 21, 2013 6/21/13 To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Subject: PESO - Flamingo, late afternoon http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/9104396736/ Taken during my granddaughter's first trip to the Henry Doorly Zoo. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: GESO (22) - Balloon adventure
Gorgeous! --- Original Message --- From: Rick Womer Sent: June 21, 2013 6/21/13 To: Pentax List Subject: GESO (22) - Balloon adventure Yesterday we took our long-anticipated hot air balloon ride outside Philly. We launched at ~0630, on a cool and clear morning with some mist and high clouds. 1:20 and about 9 miles later the pilot dropped us quickly but gently into a remarkably small suburban yard, threading between trees and power lines. Impressive. Six passengers and the pilot were stuffed into a space about 5 x 6 ft--cozy. I had just enough room to turn 90 degrees and change lenses. Photographically the trip was challenging: since quarters were so tight and we stayed fairly close to the ground (it was calm above ~1000 ft, as the other balloon learned the hard way), I mostly used my 10-17 fisheye. The wide field of view was nice in the cramped quarters, but the distortion was sometimes troublesome. This especially affected shots of the balloon above us--it is a beautiful sight, having this gigantic colorful sunlit gasbag above one, but the distortion makes it look about the size of a beach ball. Enough blather! The gallery is here: http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=1055134 Comments much appreciated! Cheers, Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Cowgirl Poetry
Walt, I love the mood, the light and the girl's casual pose. But while the soft-focus lends a dreamy air, I'm bothered by the sharp, in-focus grass a few feet beyond the subject. I think that soft-focus works best when the entire scene is diffuse rather than merely shifting the focus plane back. BTW, suggestion for something to try: attach a small piece of fine, sheer nylon stocking over the lens with an elastic band. Adds a unique textured diffusion to the image. I think that Stan's comments re the framing are good. Try cropping so the tree becomes the LH frame. I don't agree about the necessity to see the subject's eye. A profile portrait is perfectly valid and her downward gaze suggests we're catching a private moment-- maybe wistful thoughts? -- maybe dreamy thoughts which support the dreamy look of the shot. On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Walt wrote: > Here's a shot from a session I picked up through the mother of the girl I > photographed earlier in the week. > > http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9102768906/ > K-5, F50/1.7, f/2.2, 1/400 sec, ISO 100 > > I think that's my favorite of the bunch. I'll be selecting my other > favorites for posting on flickr over the next few days rather than inflict > the full set on everyone before I've had the chance to cull the weakest > ones. > > > -- Walt > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: buying a camera from Canada
In the past, Pentax, and other manufactures, sometimes had different warranty arrangements with based on country. In the USA if a camera was sold with a without a USA warranty i.e. not by the official importer you really had no recourse to the importer if something went wrong. Such cameras were referred to as gray market. The importer wasn't required to honor the warranty. Now that Pentax USA is a direct subsidiary of Pentax Japan, in the US at least, that seems to have changed. The situation may still apply in other countries. On 6/22/2013 9:07 AM, David J Brooks wrote: On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 10:50 AM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Larry Colen are there any warranty ramification to someone in the US buying a K-5II from a canadian store? Or does CRIS consider it all one territory? Where do Canadian purchasers send their cameras for warranty work? Directly to Pentax here in the Toronto area(*Mississauga), or if still under camera store extend warrenty i let them send it. I always thought Pentax warranty was international, no?? Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard drive failure, and those that will. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Odd M50/1.4
I've been told that by competent repair people, more's the pity. On 6/22/2013 7:31 AM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: Who is to say that all the parts are original? "A" glass does not fit the "M" package. The glass carrier system is entirely different. -- There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard drive failure, and those that will. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO (22) - Balloon adventure
Thanks, Bob! The gentle breeze was carrying us toward those towers (the Limerick nuclear power station), and the web of high-tension lines radiating from the plant made finding a landing site a bit tricky. The scene reminded me of the towers at Didcot looming over the beautiful Oxfordshire countryside. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: Bob W To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Cc: Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 4:01 AM Subject: RE: GESO (22) - Balloon adventure Beauty and the Beast is a great shot! > -Original Message- > From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Rick Womer > Sent: 22 June 2013 00:54 > To: Pentax List > Subject: GESO (22) - Balloon adventure > > Yesterday we took our long-anticipated hot air balloon ride > outside Philly. We launched at ~0630, on a cool and clear > morning with some mist and high clouds. 1:20 and about 9 > miles later the pilot dropped us quickly but gently into a > remarkably small suburban yard, threading between trees and > power lines. Impressive. > > Six passengers and the pilot were stuffed into a space about > 5 x 6 ft--cozy. I had just enough room to turn 90 degrees > and change lenses. > > Photographically the trip was challenging: since quarters > were so tight and we stayed fairly close to the ground (it > was calm above ~1000 ft, as the other balloon learned the > hard way), I mostly used my 10-17 fisheye. The wide field of > view was nice in the cramped quarters, but the distortion was > sometimes troublesome. This especially affected shots of the > balloon above us--it is a beautiful sight, having this > gigantic colorful sunlit gasbag above one, but the distortion > makes it look about the size of a beach ball. > > Enough blather! The gallery is here: > > http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=1055134 > > Comments much appreciated! > > Cheers, > > Rick > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly > above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO (22) - Balloon adventure
That sounds wonderful! Looking forward to the pix. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Cc: Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 7:14 AM Subject: Re: GESO (22) - Balloon adventure Rick Womer wrote: >I've been to Rome, Florence, Padua, Orvietto, and Venice. Italy is almost >overwhelming photographically--so much great stuff! > >Where are you going? Flying into Milan and then hiking around the Italian Riviera for a week, followed by a week of hiking in the Dolomites. I was hoping to catch the World Superbike Championship race at Autodromo Enzo e Dino Ferrari (Imola) on the 30 but logistically we can't make that happen:( -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: buying a camera from Canada
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 10:50 AM, John Sessoms wrote: > From: Larry Colen > >> are there any warranty ramification to someone in the US buying a K-5II >> from a canadian store? Or does CRIS consider it all one territory? > > > Where do Canadian purchasers send their cameras for warranty work? Directly to Pentax here in the Toronto area(*Mississauga), or if still under camera store extend warrenty i let them send it. I always thought Pentax warranty was international, no?? Dave > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
New FF rumour from France
Usually well-informed French magazine Réponses Photo has a short piece on the K-50 and the K-500. But the really interesting bit of information comes at the very end of the article: "We would have hoped for some more audacity. But let's wait a little, as it might well be that the end of the year will have a nice surprise in store for us, in the semi-pro range, somewhere between the K-5II and the 645D..." Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Odd M50/1.4
>Who is to say that all the parts are original? "A" glass does not fit the "M" package. The glass carrier system is entirely different. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO (22) - Balloon adventure
Rick Womer wrote: >I've been to Rome, Florence, Padua, Orvietto, and Venice. Italy is almost >overwhelming photographically--so much great stuff! > >Where are you going? Flying into Milan and then hiking around the Italian Riviera for a week, followed by a week of hiking in the Dolomites. I was hoping to catch the World Superbike Championship race at Autodromo Enzo e Dino Ferrari (Imola) on the 30 but logistically we can't make that happen:( -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Odd M50/1.4
Bah! Blasted webmail interfaeces Who is to say that all the parts are original? On 22/06/2013, mike wilson wrote: > On 21/06/2013, Brian Walters wrote: >> Quoting Collin Brendemuehl : >> >>> Picked one up today while thrifting (Just $7) >>> All other M50/1.4 lenses I've had sported the typical amber coating. >>> But this one is blueish, like the A series. >>> Anyone familiar with this? Transition model? >> >> >> No idea, but an M50 1.4 for 7 bucks was a great find. >> >> >> -- >> Cheers >> >> Brian >> >> ++ >> Brian Walters >> Western Sydney Australia >> http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ >> >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Odd M50/1.4
On 21/06/2013, Brian Walters wrote: > Quoting Collin Brendemuehl : > >> Picked one up today while thrifting (Just $7) >> All other M50/1.4 lenses I've had sported the typical amber coating. >> But this one is blueish, like the A series. >> Anyone familiar with this? Transition model? > > > No idea, but an M50 1.4 for 7 bucks was a great find. > > > -- > Cheers > > Brian > > ++ > Brian Walters > Western Sydney Australia > http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 crooked sensor repair - kludge recommendations?
On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 10:17:15AM +0530, Bipin Gupta wrote: > Larry, where are you based in the US? In Santa Cruz. About 50 miles south of San Mateo. > Repairs in India by independent > mechanics in Mumbai or Delhi are extremely cheap - approx. 1/4th the Good to know. > US. Do note Pentax is not present at all in India - no Sales or > Service Centers, but Independent Repair Shops do offer services. > I keep visiting Toronto, Canada and San Mateo in the Bay Area. Since I > returned recently in February 2013, I may not be travelling again in > the near future. > I could ask some Pentaxian friends in Mumbai & Delhi to check for > repairs with the cost, if you mail the photos to me with a brief write > up on the sensor problem. http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157634079405157/ I've sent a note to the place in San Diego I was pointed to earlier today. Even if I lose shake reduction, if I can get he sensor straightened, and get it converted to IR, that would be worth a bit of money. Especially since with live view I could use it as an IR only camera if need be. > You could then send your camera directly to them. In a few weeks, several of my coworkers will be returning to Bangalore, so I could probably convince one of them to ship it to one of those repair places for me. > Regards. > Bipin. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: GESO (22) - Balloon adventure
Beauty and the Beast is a great shot! > -Original Message- > From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Rick Womer > Sent: 22 June 2013 00:54 > To: Pentax List > Subject: GESO (22) - Balloon adventure > > Yesterday we took our long-anticipated hot air balloon ride > outside Philly. We launched at ~0630, on a cool and clear > morning with some mist and high clouds. 1:20 and about 9 > miles later the pilot dropped us quickly but gently into a > remarkably small suburban yard, threading between trees and > power lines. Impressive. > > Six passengers and the pilot were stuffed into a space about > 5 x 6 ft--cozy. I had just enough room to turn 90 degrees > and change lenses. > > Photographically the trip was challenging: since quarters > were so tight and we stayed fairly close to the ground (it > was calm above ~1000 ft, as the other balloon learned the > hard way), I mostly used my 10-17 fisheye. The wide field of > view was nice in the cramped quarters, but the distortion was > sometimes troublesome. This especially affected shots of the > balloon above us--it is a beautiful sight, having this > gigantic colorful sunlit gasbag above one, but the distortion > makes it look about the size of a beach ball. > > Enough blather! The gallery is here: > > http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=1055134 > > Comments much appreciated! > > Cheers, > > Rick > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly > above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: LBA hubris
> -Original Message- > From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Larry Colen > Sent: 22 June 2013 05:13 > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: LBA hubris > > On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 09:50:56PM -0500, Darren Addy wrote: > > Flicker? I hardly KNOW her! > > You don't know my friend Flicker? > > She just loves to horse around, that's her mane attraction. > that sort of pun ill behooves you B > > > > On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 8:32 PM, Mark Roberts > > wrote: > > > Stan Halpin wrote: > > > > > >>On Jun 21, 2013, at 7:57 PM, Rick Womer wrote: > > >> > > >>> From: P.J. Alling > > >>> > > >>> On 4/21/2013 4:27 AM, Larry Colen wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 07:41:30AM +0200, mike wilson wrote: > > > On 20/04/2013 20:05, Larry Colen wrote: > > >> On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 05:04:32AM -0600, Bill wrote: > > >>> On 20/04/2013 12:52 AM, David Savage wrote: > > You don't have to photograph everything. > > > > >> That never occurs to me on a photo walk when I am > completely into the heron now. > > > I'm positively chaffinch at the bit to find another > bird pun but, sadly > > You just have to learn how to live life with no egrets. > > >>> > > >>> That was so obvious that it should be ill-eagle. > > >>> > > >>> In all condor, I don't think we should carrion like this. > > >> > > >>You are all loony, just puffin up your chests and trying > to whip poor bill, so I going to just duck this discussion. > > > > > > If you're going to be robin us of your further insights the least > > > you could do would be to post some photos on flicker. > > > > > > -- > > > Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > > PDML@pdml.net > > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. > > > > > > > > -- > > "Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art" - > > Peter Galassi > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. > > -- > Larry Colen l...@red4est.com > http://red4est.com/lrc > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly > above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
