Re: GESO (22) - Balloon adventure

[Stan Halpin]

Bob W said: 
> I pay for a website and it does not thrust ads in people's faces just because 
> they haven't also subscribed. I think it's rude of people to use websites 
> that do that, and photo.net et al should have the decency not to serve ads at 
> all through subscribers' pages.

Dan, you say: 
>  ... I just
> pointed out that "free" websites do not exist.  If you are not paying
> for the service, the website is selling you to advertisers in order to
> pay the costs of running the "free" websitre...

I think you misunderstand Bob's point, Dan. There is a very strange mixing of 
apples and oranges in what you say. The problem is that there are two different 
kinds of users for photo-viewing (or music-listening) sites. There are users 
who store stuff on a site for others to look at (listen to, whatever). And 
there are users who come and view/listen or otherwise enjoy the stored goodies. 
Some sites charge people to store stuff, some sites charge viewers/listeners to 
view/hear the stored stuff. photonet apparently does both. It charges you to 
use the site to store stuff, and then it charges me (by imposing ads on me) to 
look at the stuff you've stored. The site I use to store stuff charges me; I 
would drop them in a heartbeat if they started to charge people to look at my 
stuff (or if they started imposing ads on my viewers, which amounts to the same 
thing.) I bear the cost of storing/hosting my photos and I don't expect others 
to then have to "pay" to view the hosted images. 

So, photonet has its business model which involves getting you to pay them for 
the privilege of them using your photos to draw me to the site so they can push 
ads in my face and make money if I were to click-through to an advertiser. That 
is ok, I can ignore the ads. If the ads (or other photonet slowness) delays 
loading a requested photo for any appreciable time, (i.e., 1-2 sec) that is ok 
also - I just click Close and go on with my life. I have had enough 
fail-to-load-promptly experiences with the photonet site that I will usually 
avoid even clicking on a link that will take me there.  If I needed to go to 
the site to see shots of the local Rotary Club picnic, I would probably do so 
and not give the ads and delays a second thought. But if I have no need to go 
to the site other than to view and maybe comment on someone's photo, then I'll 
usually instead view and comment on someone else's photo which is stored on a 
more accessible site. 

stan

On Jun 23, 2013, at 9:27 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

> Bob:
> 
> I did not suggest that you should subscribe to Photo.net.  I just
> pointed out that "free" websites do not exist.  If you are not paying
> for the service, the website is selling you to advertisers in order to
> pay the costs of running the "free" websitre.
> 
> I store thousands of image on Photo.Net for the Rotary Groups I work
> with, for a local attorneys group, and for church and civic
> activities..  I have done this for several years now, giving out the
> link to Photo.Net. The people who use those images and download them
> are, for the most part, far less sophisticated than the member of PDML
> in the use of computers.  I have received many compliments and many
> expressions of thanks, but none of those users have ever had any
> problems accessing the images or complained about the ads.  The local
> newspaper have also selected and downloaded, with my permission,
> images I posted on the site.  The ads are a very minor inconvenience,
> and easily handled by almost everyone, except for a few here.  I guess
> your standards are higher, but if you are unable to look at my images
> because of your dislike of Photo.Net, I guess I will have to live with
> that.
> 
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> 
> 
> On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Bob W  wrote:
>> On 23 Jun 2013, at 21:36, "Daniel J. Matyola"  wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm sorry if you find the ads on Photo.Net such a problem.
>>> 
>>> Not all services are equal.  The flexibility of Photo.Net makes it
>>> worth the minor convenience of the ads, in my view.  One click, and
>>> they are gone.  I prefer that to the strange interface used by most of
>>> the alternatives.  Photo.Net offers a lot of storage, a lot of
>>> flexibility, and ease of use.  Millions of visitors manage to visit
>>> the site and look ate the images despite the minor inconvenience of
>>> the ads.
>>> 
>> 
>> One click and I'm gone.
>> 
>> It's up to you if you want your convenience to be at the expense of your 
>> potential viewers, but I think that's a lousy attitude.
>> 
>> You've suggested that we should subscribe to photo.net if we don't want to 
>> see ads. Do you seriously think people are going to subscribe to every 
>> website that shows annoying ads annoyingly? Do you subscribe to them all? 
>> No, people are just going to leave those sites. One of the basic rules of 
>> web design is don't piss off your customers.
>> 
>> As for your millions of

Re: GESO (22) - Balloon adventure

[David Mann]

On Jun 24, 2013, at 10:56 AM, Brian Walters  wrote:

> The problem I have with the ads (and this is not just restricted to 
> Photo.Net) is that the call to the add server often gets 'stuck' with the 
> result that the web page content doesn't show up at all.  The only way out is 
> to reload the page (and hope that the same thing doesn't happen again) or, 
> more likely, leave the page completely.

I'm glad I continued reading the thread before hitting "send" as I pretty much 
wrote the same thing as you.  It pisses me off quite a lot.  I usually just 
carry on reading the list and open any new links in another tab, then come back 
to the stalled one later and retry.  If it still fails after a few attempts I 
give up.

When the ads do load I find them extremely distracting and they often clash 
with the photo being presented.  I deal with that by scrolling enough to make 
them disappear off the top of the screen.

Cheers,
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Re: paw week 25 super moon plus another

[P.J. Alling]

I assume it's uncropped, a super moon is only going to be 6% or so 
larger than an average moon.  All those frame filling moon images are 
shot with super telephotos.


On 6/24/2013 12:28 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:

The first two are this week and last.  I forgot to post last week and I changed 
last week's photo.  My super moon doesn't look overly super in size, but the 
lake front was the best vantage point from where I live.  We just did a quick 
run to the lakefront, snapped a few shots, and headed home.  Very cloudy 
tonight as we had a bit of rain earlier.


http://www.caguila.com/paw2013/index.html


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Re: PESO - Flamingo, late afternoon

[Christine Aguila]

Nice color work but the stick is distracting.  Cheers, Christine


On Jun 21, 2013, at 6:00 PM, Darren Addy  wrote:

> http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/9104396736/
> 
> Taken during my granddaughter's first trip to the Henry Doorly Zoo.
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Re: PESO - Close Encounter

[Christine Aguila]

The road is a nice leading line--nice composition there.  Cheers, Christine


On Jun 23, 2013, at 5:58 PM, Brian Walters  wrote:

> G'day all
> 
> Another one from my USA trip:
> 
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP3205-K5-1-peso.html
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/mcr4k47
> 
> 
> Comments, criticism most welcome.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
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> 
> Brian
> 
> ++
> Brian Walters
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Re: PESO - Blue Period

[Christine Aguila]

> On Thu, Jun 06, 2013, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> Street artist seen in Toronto's (Bohemian) Kensington Market neighbourhood:
>> 
>> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/06/blue-period.html?m=1
>> 
>> His art didn't do much for me but I liked the overall scene.
> 

Love it Frank.  The blue theme is great, but I really like the cigar and paint 
brush rhyming here.  Cheers, Christine


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Re: PESO - Broken Rung

[Christine Aguila]

color is beautiful, great reflections in the windows, and broken rung is great! 
 Cheers, christine



On Jun 17, 2013, at 6:57 PM, Brian Walters  wrote:

> G'day all
> 
> Just a simple scene but the colour combination attracted me.
> 
> Taken at Ghost Ranch near Abiquiu, New Mexico, during my recent western USA 
> tour.
> 
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP0329-Q-1-peso.html
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/ks28upf
> 
> 
> Pentax Q with 5-15mm zoom.
> 
> Comments appreciated.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
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> 
> Brian
> 
> ++
> Brian Walters
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Re: GESO - Port Isaac, Cornwall

[Christine Aguila]

Always a pleasure viewing your work, Cotty!  The black and whites are quite 
stunning, and great expressions in Ice Cream Parlour.  Love the water pipes and 
pirate--I love shooting kitsch like that.  Cheers, Christine


  
On Jun 23, 2013, at 6:29 AM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:

> Small gallery of pics from a walk in Cornwall...
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> Cheers,
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Re: GESO Eversand-Oberfeuer

[Christine Aguila]

I like the first one of the full light house, but I'd get rid of those spots.  
They are easy to remove in Lightroom if you use that.  Also easy to remove in 
Photoshop I would guess.  Cheers, Christine




On Jun 16, 2013, at 5:26 PM, Thomas Bohn  wrote:

> An old lighthouse at the North Sea coast in Dorum-Neufeld, Germany. After it 
> was decommissioned it was brought here as a tourist attraction.
> 
> https://secure.flickr.com/photos/95985450@N08/sets/72157634166563244/
> 
> Feedback always welcome.
> 
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Re: Odd M50/1.4

[Alan C]

That is the SMC Pentax-M version. There is also the original SMC Pentax 
version. If you go to Bodj's site you will see that the non-M appears to be 
amber whereas the M version appears to be blue.


Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: Collin Brendemuehl

Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 10:56 PM
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Collin, how about a photo of the lens?


Here it is:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/321149417457?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984
.m1558.l2649

Given the comments, maybe it's just me who is a little off. :0 Stay cool,
everyone.


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Re: GESO (22) - Balloon adventure

[Christine Aguila]

I agree with Bob!  Overall, looks like you had a great time.  The deer looking 
up is fun too.  Cheers, Christine



On Jun 22, 2013, at 3:01 AM, Bob W  wrote:

> Beauty and the Beast is a great shot! 
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Rick Womer
>> Sent: 22 June 2013 00:54
>> To: Pentax List
>> Subject: GESO (22) - Balloon adventure
>> 
>> Yesterday we took our long-anticipated hot air balloon ride 
>> outside Philly.  We launched at ~0630, on a cool and clear 
>> morning with some mist and high clouds.  1:20 and about 9 
>> miles later the pilot dropped us quickly but gently into a 
>> remarkably small suburban yard, threading between trees and 
>> power lines.  Impressive.
>> 
>> Six passengers and the pilot were stuffed into a space about 
>> 5 x 6 ft--cozy.  I had just enough room to turn 90 degrees 
>> and change lenses.
>> 
>> Photographically the trip was challenging:  since quarters 
>> were so tight and we stayed fairly close to the ground (it 
>> was calm above ~1000 ft, as the other balloon learned the 
>> hard way), I mostly used my 10-17 fisheye.  The wide field of 
>> view was nice in the cramped quarters, but the distortion was 
>> sometimes troublesome.  This especially affected shots of the 
>> balloon above us--it is a beautiful sight, having this 
>> gigantic colorful sunlit gasbag above one, but the distortion 
>> makes it look about the size of a beach ball.
>> 
>> Enough blather!  The gallery is here:
>> 
>> http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=1055134
>> 
>> Comments much appreciated!
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Rick
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Re: GESO The Brawley

[Christine Aguila]

Very nice set, Bruce.  Just curious though--why use the K20D and not your K-5?  
Cheers, Christine


On Jun 12, 2013, at 7:18 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:

> So I landed a paying gig last weekend. I was to document the opening
> of a new club: show off the facilities, catch the opening night band,
> dancing, drinking, and try to snap some of the staff too. Here's a
> small set of 12 of the more interesting shots (of the 74 finals
> delivered to The Brawley brass):
> 
> http://flic.kr/s/aHsjG1qjie   The Brawley Opening
> 
> All taken with my K20D, DA* 55, DA* 16-50 & DA* 50-135.
> 
> The first three staff shots (wait, bar, kitchen) were lit with a used
> $30 AF200T in an 18" softbox on a monopod, gelled 1/2 CTO, and wielded
> by my able assistant (my wife). I precomputed the flash exposure
> assuming a fixed rough distance to the subjects, then set the shutter
> to let in ambient room light about two stops below the key. When WB
> adjusted for the orange gel, the background goes a blue tint to give
> it that cool look.
> 
> The west wing and patio shots are HDR, as you've likely guessed --
> apologies in advance. I used Nik HDR Pro and it's pretty good, but I'm
> not really an HDR kinda guy. I just figured these facilities shots
> would benefit from that Marketing Imperative where Over The Top just
> isn't good enough. :-)
> 
> Most of the dark club dancing and band shots were taken at ISO 3200.
> In the past I dismissed that as useless on the K20D but they clean up
> nicely with Nik Dfine, so I'm coming to rely on it now. (It even
> removes colour banding well so I'm going to go back and revisit some
> of my "lost" K100Ds shots.)
> 
> 
> Comments welcome, as always.
> 
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Re: GESO: Grandfather Mountain 2013

[Christine Aguila]

Love that night sky, Mark!  cheers, Christine


On Jun 11, 2013, at 8:01 AM, Mark Roberts  wrote:

> I've put up a little gallery of shots from this year's Nature
> Photography Weekend. Nothing earth-shattering but it'll give you a
> feel for what we do there.
> 
> http://www.robertstech.com/galleries/gfm2013/
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Re: GESO: Water Wars

[Christine Aguila]

Playful and enjoyable gallery, Paul.  I'm totally with you on the everyone on 
the block played together.  Kids these days need more of that--way to much is 
being organized for them.  Cheers, Christine


On Jun 9, 2013, at 7:15 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:

> Back when I was a kid, everyone who lived on the block played together, 
> regardless of age or gender. Haven't seen much of that in recent years. Lots 
> of play dates and parents who carefully choose friends. But I saw it again 
> today, with Grace and the neighborhood kids playing water wars in the 
> backyard. The oldest was 12; the youngest was 4. Boys and girls. Parents not 
> involved, Kids figuring it out on their own. We can all get along.
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Re: OT GESO - Nighties

[Christine Aguila]

I love the first one, Derby!  Cheers, Christine


On Jun 8, 2013, at 7:10 PM, Derby Chang  wrote:

> 
> Our show at the library had an artist talk yesterday, which was lots of fun. 
> People who weren't related to us actually turned up.
> 
> Afterwards, I went off do replenish the archive with some night streeties
> 
> http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/13/06/nighties/index.html
> 
> I know I shouldn't let little things get to me. But sometime during the 
> nighties, the main dial on the OM-D popped off. Turns out this is a common 
> problem. Oh well. Maybe Olympus will send me a free spare.
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Re: Dragonflies and Stack Focused Damselfly

[Christine Aguila]

The first two are quite stunning.  I love the way the dragon fly is grabbing 
the plant.  Color is wonderful.  Great work.  Cheers, Christine


On Jun 22, 2013, at 7:37 PM, Mark C  wrote:

> I visited a prime dragonfly location yesterday, but the cool temps, gusty 
> winds and overcast skies did not make for a high volume shoot. I got 3 nice 
> shots which are here:
> 
> http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php?blog=2
> 
> Permalink:
> 
> http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/june-odonata-2013
> 
> The last shot on the post - the Bluet Damselfly - is a departure for me 
> because it is a focus stacked  composition of 16 separate shots. This was 
> compiled in Photoshop. The focus stacking tool there had seemed to be useless 
> to me because it was such a  PITA to manually stack images as layers in a 
> single file -but I finally stumbled on a webpage that explains how to use 
> bridge to open multiple files and then make them just layers of one file in 
> Photoshop - ah, life is good. I can see doing more focus stacking in the 
> future - it worked pretty well in the field yesterday.
> 
> C&C appreciated.
> 
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Re: CNN does Portraits of Chicago Sun Times Photogs

[Christine Aguila]

I second the flea wish!  Cheers, Christine


On Jun 23, 2013, at 12:18 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:

> Two thoughts:
> 
> First, may the fleas of a thousand camels infest the armpits of the Sun-Times 
> management.
> 
> Second: ONE woman and ONE African-American (and no other apparent minorities) 
> in a staff of 23 in a city as diverse as Chicago?  It indicates that the 
> Sun-Times management has been lousy for a long time.
> 
> Rick
>  
> http://photo.net/photos/RickW
> 
> 
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> 
> Hi Everyone:
> 
> As I posted earlier, the Chicago Sun Times newspaper has fired its entire 
> photography staff.  CNN has done a gallery of portraits of each of the 
> photographers.  Bio information is included under each photo.  It's a nice 
> gallery on a very sad story.  Just thought you might be interested
> 
> http://cnnphotos.blogs.cnn.com/2013/06/21/we-are-the-chicago-sun-times-photography-department/?hpt=hp_bn14
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Re: PAW181 - Roses

[Christine Aguila]

I like the centered placement of the roses.  Nicely sharp and great color and 
detail in the flowers.  Wonderful contrast between the red and white floor.  
Cheers, Christine



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> http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
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paw week 25 super moon plus another

[Christine Aguila]

The first two are this week and last.  I forgot to post last week and I changed 
last week's photo.  My super moon doesn't look overly super in size, but the 
lake front was the best vantage point from where I live.  We just did a quick 
run to the lakefront, snapped a few shots, and headed home.  Very cloudy 
tonight as we had a bit of rain earlier.  


http://www.caguila.com/paw2013/index.html


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Re: PAW180 - Me

[Boris Liberman]

Happy (belated) birthday, Dag.

May your lenses be always bright and your tripods steady!

On 6/16/2013 10:09 PM, DagT wrote:

Turned 50 last week so it was time to see if anything had changed. :-)
http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
Pentax K-5, DA*55mm, 1/100s, f/2.8, ISO100, Tripod, Remote control.


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Re: New camera

[Boris Liberman]

Thomas, it's hard for me to tell, without knowing where you live and 
what shops are available to you, but prices to Ricoh GXR system went 
down not long time ago.


Consider these prices:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/760802-REG/Ricoh_170393_GR_Lens_A12_50mm.html 
- USD 479 - the module I wrote about.


http://www.adorama.com/US%20%20%20%20570836.html - USD 119 - used camera 
body.


I couldn't come up with both camera and lens from the same merchant, as 
it seems that Ricoh system is being phased out or discontinued, but it 
seems you still can get a full kit for like USD 600.


Boris

On 6/23/2013 6:40 PM, Thomas Bohn wrote:

Am 22.06.2013 um 19:22 schrieb Boris Liberman :


But, Thomas, if you only need a camera body to put behind your 35
mm prime, then may be the likes of Ricoh GXR with the 33/2.5 (aka
50 macro) lensor module would suit you.


Th GXR looks nice but there are either cheap kits (250 to 270 euros)
or expensive lenses for 500 euros and more.

The K-01 would be an alternative if it were not for the weird design
of the camera (300 euros for the body).

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Re: GESO (22) - Balloon adventure

[John Sessoms]

From: Brian Walters

Quoting "Daniel J. Matyola" :

I don't see the ads, probabley because I subscribe to Photo.Net.

Remember, if you don't pay for a service, you are the product being sold.




The problem I have with the ads (and this is not just restricted to
Photo.Net) is that the call to the add server often gets 'stuck' with
the result that the web page content doesn't show up at all.  The only
way out is to reload the page (and hope that the same thing doesn't
happen again) or, more likely, leave the page completely.


Cheers

Brian


I don't see the ads either, and I'm not a subscriber. I think NoScript 
is doing its job.


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Re: GESO (22) - Balloon adventure

[Bill]

On 23/06/2013 7:41 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

Bob, I am wide open to suggestions for a service that is as easy to use as 
photo.net, doesn't present non-subscribers with ads, and is moderate in cost.



Have you looked into pBase?

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PESO - Reading in the Rain

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Sunny this weekend but several brief downpours punctuated our first weekend of 
summer. Glad the K10D is weather sealed. Some streeties must be colour:

 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/06/reading-in-rain.html?m=1

Hope you enjoy. Comments encouraged.

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frank 

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Re: GESO (22) - Balloon adventure

[Rick Womer]

Bob, I am wide open to suggestions for a service that is as easy to use as 
photo.net, doesn't present non-subscribers with ads, and is moderate in cost.

Rick
 
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Subject: Re: GESO (22) - Balloon adventure

On 23 Jun 2013, at 19:58, "Daniel J. Matyola"  wrote:

> I don't see the ads, probabley because I subscribe to Photo.Net.
> 
> Remember, if you don't pay for a service, you are the product being sold.

You are not obliged to subscribe to a service that uses ads. I pay for a 
website and it does not thrust ads in people's faces just because they haven't 
also subscribed. I think it's rude of people to use websites that do that, and 
photo.net et al should have the decency not to serve ads at all through 
subscribers' pages. 

If I were you I'd be very unhappy about that because you're paying photo.net to 
host your pictures, yet their stupid ads are driving viewers away from them, 
and nobody gains.

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Re: GESO (22) - Balloon adventure

[Rick Womer]

Thanks, Bob!  It was a great birthday present.

Rick
 
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Rick,
Nice balloon flight documentary.
The shots of the countryside below are wonderful.
The deer, the homes on the culdsack, but the best
was the landscape with the cooling towers in the background.
I can see the power lines and can't believe you flew so close.
Thanks for the ride!
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> Thanks, Cotty!
>
> I don't like the ads, either; but I haven't found a service I'd be more 
> content with.  Tried SmugMug for a year, but way more expensive for few 
> advantages.
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> On 21/6/13, Rick Womer, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>Enough blather!  The gallery is here:
>>
>>http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=1055134
>
> Nice gallery! I do hate the ads that photo.net insists on showing.
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Re: GESO (22) - Balloon adventure

[Rick Womer]

Thanks, Brian!

Well, yes, there were moments of anxiety as we dropped into a space with 4kV 
power lines on 2 sides and 270kV lines about 100 ft downwind.  Not to mention 
the pilot tapping the gauge on the top of the propane tank and murmuring "I'm a 
=bit= concerned about the fuel situation" (being very well acquainted with 
British understatement, this probably pricked my ears more than the other 
passengers').

But, as they say, a good landing is one you can walk away from, and a =great= 
landing is one that lets you use the aircraft again!

Rick
 
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Subject: Re: GESO (22) - Balloon adventure

Quoting Rick Womer :

> Yesterday we took our long-anticipated hot air balloon ride outside  
> Philly.  We launched at ~0630, on a cool and clear morning with  
> some mist and high clouds.  1:20 and about 9 miles later the  
> pilot dropped us quickly but gently into a remarkably small suburban  
> yard, threading between trees and power lines.  Impressive.
>
> Six passengers and the pilot were stuffed into a space about 5 x 6  
> ft--cozy.  I had just enough room to turn 90 degrees and change  
> lenses.
>
> Photographically the trip was challenging:  since quarters were  
> so tight and we stayed fairly close to the ground (it was calm above  
> ~1000 ft, as the other balloon learned the hard way), I mostly used  
> my 10-17 fisheye.  The wide field of view was nice in the  
> cramped quarters, but the distortion was sometimes troublesome.  
>  This especially affected shots of the balloon above us--it is  
> a beautiful sight, having this gigantic colorful sunlit  
> gasbag above one, but the distortion makes it look about the size of  
> a beach ball.
>
> Enough blather!  The gallery is here:
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=1055134
>
> Comments much appreciated!
>
>


Great gallery- it looks pretty cosy in that basket!

The power lines would have given me the heebie-jeebies.




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Re: PESO - Close Encounter

[Rick Womer]

Really nice composition.  It makes me want to get there someday!

Rick
 
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Subject: PESO - Close Encounter

G'day all

Another one from my USA trip:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP3205-K5-1-peso.html

http://tinyurl.com/mcr4k47


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Re: GESO (22) - Balloon adventure

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Bob:

I did not suggest that you should subscribe to Photo.net.  I just
pointed out that "free" websites do not exist.  If you are not paying
for the service, the website is selling you to advertisers in order to
pay the costs of running the "free" websitre.

I store thousands of image on Photo.Net for the Rotary Groups I work
with, for a local attorneys group, and for church and civic
activities..  I have done this for several years now, giving out the
link to Photo.Net. The people who use those images and download them
are, for the most part, far less sophisticated than the member of PDML
in the use of computers.  I have received many compliments and many
expressions of thanks, but none of those users have ever had any
problems accessing the images or complained about the ads.  The local
newspaper have also selected and downloaded, with my permission,
images I posted on the site.  The ads are a very minor inconvenience,
and easily handled by almost everyone, except for a few here.  I guess
your standards are higher, but if you are unable to look at my images
because of your dislike of Photo.Net, I guess I will have to live with
that.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Bob W  wrote:
> On 23 Jun 2013, at 21:36, "Daniel J. Matyola"  wrote:
>
>> I'm sorry if you find the ads on Photo.Net such a problem.
>>
>> Not all services are equal.  The flexibility of Photo.Net makes it
>> worth the minor convenience of the ads, in my view.  One click, and
>> they are gone.  I prefer that to the strange interface used by most of
>> the alternatives.  Photo.Net offers a lot of storage, a lot of
>> flexibility, and ease of use.  Millions of visitors manage to visit
>> the site and look ate the images despite the minor inconvenience of
>> the ads.
>>
>
> One click and I'm gone.
>
> It's up to you if you want your convenience to be at the expense of your 
> potential viewers, but I think that's a lousy attitude.
>
> You've suggested that we should subscribe to photo.net if we don't want to 
> see ads. Do you seriously think people are going to subscribe to every 
> website that shows annoying ads annoyingly? Do you subscribe to them all? No, 
> people are just going to leave those sites. One of the basic rules of web 
> design is don't piss off your customers.
>
> As for your millions of visitors, if you scale up the number of people on 
> this list who've complained a great many times about photo.net you may get 
> some sense of how much annoyance those ads cause to people. And if you scale 
> up similarly the number of people on this list who use that 'one click' to 
> leave your site rather than look at your pictures when an ad gets in the way, 
> you'll get some idea of how many viewers photo.net is driving away.
>
> B
>
>>
>>
>> Dan Matyola
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Bob W  wrote:
>>> On 23 Jun 2013, at 19:58, "Daniel J. Matyola"  wrote:
>>>
 I don't see the ads, probabley because I subscribe to Photo.Net.

 Remember, if you don't pay for a service, you are the product being sold.
>>>
>>> You are not obliged to subscribe to a service that uses ads. I pay for a 
>>> website and it does not thrust ads in people's faces just because they 
>>> haven't also subscribed. I think it's rude of people to use websites that 
>>> do that, and photo.net et al should have the decency not to serve ads at 
>>> all through subscribers' pages.
>>>
>>> If I were you I'd be very unhappy about that because you're paying 
>>> photo.net to host your pictures, yet their stupid ads are driving viewers 
>>> away from them, and nobody gains.
>>>
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Re: PESO - Close Encounter

[Philip Northeast]

I didn't realise it was  real

Philip Northeast

www.aviewfinderdarkly.com.au

On 24/06/13 8:58 AM, Brian Walters wrote:

G'day all

Another one from my USA trip:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP3205-K5-1-peso.html


http://tinyurl.com/mcr4k47


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Re: PESO - Close Encounter

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Nice, iconic image!

Dan Matyola
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On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Brian Walters  wrote:
> G'day all
>
> Another one from my USA trip:
>
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP3205-K5-1-peso.html
>
> http://tinyurl.com/mcr4k47
>
>
> Comments, criticism most welcome.
>
>
>
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Re: test

[David J Brooks]

On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Christine Aguila
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> test
C
A
B
B
ALLabove

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Re: PESO - Close Encounter

[Bob Sullivan]

Brian,
Very cool!  You made it to lots of great sites
and took lots of great pictures.
Regards,  Bob S

On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Brian Walters  wrote:
> G'day all
>
> Another one from my USA trip:
>
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP3205-K5-1-peso.html
>
> http://tinyurl.com/mcr4k47
>
>
> Comments, criticism most welcome.
>
>
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Re: test

[Steve Desjardins]

Multiple choice or essay?

Steve Desjardins

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PESO - Close Encounter

[Brian Walters]

G'day all

Another one from my USA trip:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP3205-K5-1-peso.html

http://tinyurl.com/mcr4k47


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Re: GESO (22) - Balloon adventure

[Brian Walters]

Quoting "Daniel J. Matyola" :


I don't see the ads, probabley because I subscribe to Photo.Net.

Remember, if you don't pay for a service, you are the product being sold.




The problem I have with the ads (and this is not just restricted to  
Photo.Net) is that the call to the add server often gets 'stuck' with  
the result that the web page content doesn't show up at all.  The only  
way out is to reload the page (and hope that the same thing doesn't  
happen again) or, more likely, leave the page completely.



Cheers

Brian

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Western Sydney Australia
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Dan Matyola
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On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 7:37 AM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:

On 21/6/13, Rick Womer, discombobulated, unleashed:

Nice gallery! I do hate the ads that photo.net insists on showing.






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Re: PAW181 - Roses

[P.J. Alling]

Sad to say for once I don't hate you. It's plesant, but a bit too 
centered, static and a bit boring, though it is sharp and properly exposed.


On 6/23/2013 5:13 PM, DagT wrote:

http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
Pentax K-5, DA*16-50@21, 1/50s, f/7.1, ISO100,

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Re: GESO (22) - Balloon adventure

[Brian Walters]

Quoting Rick Womer :

Yesterday we took our long-anticipated hot air balloon ride outside  
Philly.  We launched at ~0630, on a cool and clear morning with  
some mist and high clouds.  1:20 and about 9 miles later the  
pilot dropped us quickly but gently into a remarkably small suburban  
yard, threading between trees and power lines.  Impressive.


Six passengers and the pilot were stuffed into a space about 5 x 6  
ft--cozy.  I had just enough room to turn 90 degrees and change  
lenses.


Photographically the trip was challenging:  since quarters were  
so tight and we stayed fairly close to the ground (it was calm above  
~1000 ft, as the other balloon learned the hard way), I mostly used  
my 10-17 fisheye.  The wide field of view was nice in the  
cramped quarters, but the distortion was sometimes troublesome.  
 This especially affected shots of the balloon above us--it is  
a beautiful sight, having this gigantic colorful sunlit  
gasbag above one, but the distortion makes it look about the size of  
a beach ball.


Enough blather!  The gallery is here:

http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=1055134

Comments much appreciated!





Great gallery- it looks pretty cosy in that basket!

The power lines would have given me the heebie-jeebies.




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Re: GESO - Port Isaac, Cornwall

[Brian Walters]

Quoting "Daniel J. Matyola" :


Very nice!  I especially like the telephone booth and the two gents in
the doorway.



Yeah, what Dan said.

Presumably the phone booth isn't used all that often...


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On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Bruce Walker  
 wrote:

Fine shots, Cotty; #2 especially.

On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 7:29 AM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:

Small gallery of pics from a walk in Cornwall...



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Re: PESO - Blanca Peak

[Brian Walters]

Quoting John Sessoms :


Alamosa is one of my favorite places in Colorado. Your Blanca Peak looks
like what I remember seeing the real peak. Not "over-cooked" at all.



Thanks, John.  Appreciate the feedback.


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From: Brian Walters

Quoting Igor Roshchin :

Brian,

That's a great photo!
Before I saw other people's (and your own) comments, my first reaction
was: "That's a photo worth going on a trip to the US".



Thanks, Igor.

The Alamosa area proved to be one of the more interesting places we
visited.  We weren't expecting much (we only booked to stay there
because it's the closest town to the Great Sand Dunes NP), but the
landscape around the town is stunning.

Thanks to all who looked and/or commented.  It seems that Jack and I
were the only ones who had some misgivings about the image.  I was a
bit concerned that HDR Efex had 'over-cooked' it a bit.  I still may
do some work on it to reduce the intensity of the colour of the
foreground (but I will keep the original version, Bruce :-)> ).





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Re: PESO - Blanca Peak

[Brian Walters]

Quoting Steve Cottrell :


On 21/6/13, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed:


Here's one taken around dusk from Alamosa, Colorado.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP2364-

K5-1peso.html


http://tinyurl.com/myv7k69


Nice!



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Re: Dragonflies and Stack Focused Damselfly

[Ann Sanfedele]

Those are great, Mark  love the detail on those little guys!

ann

On 6/22/2013 20:37, Mark C wrote:

I visited a prime dragonfly location yesterday, but the cool temps,
gusty winds and overcast skies did not make for a high volume shoot. I
got 3 nice shots which are here:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php?blog=2

Permalink:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/june-odonata-2013

The last shot on the post - the Bluet Damselfly - is a departure for me
because it is a focus stacked  composition of 16 separate shots. This
was compiled in Photoshop. The focus stacking tool there had seemed to
be useless to me because it was such a  PITA to manually stack images as
layers in a single file -but I finally stumbled on a webpage that
explains how to use bridge to open multiple files and then make them
just layers of one file in Photoshop - ah, life is good. I can see doing
more focus stacking in the future - it worked pretty well in the field
yesterday.

C&C appreciated.

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Re: TYTimes blog: A lost interview with HCB

[Eric Weir]

On Jun 22, 2013, at 4:39 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

> I probably am not expressing myself well 

I disagree!

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Re: Dragonflies and Stack Focused Damselfly

[Mark C]

On 6/23/2013 2:13 PM, John Sessoms wrote:


One of my local nature photography cohorts has bought that CamRanger
device that allows you to control the camera from your iPhone/iPad for
macro focus stacking. He's very impressed with it.

Currently it only supports CaNikon cameras which would be a major
drawback for me.

... unless Pentax can't get their shit together & I end up with a D600.

That is an interesting looking device. I looked into the StackShot 
automatic stepping macro focusing rail made for stacked focus work, but 
it was too costly, seemed to not be amenable for moving subjects and 
also does not have Pentax support (though that is limited only to the 
shutter release cable and it would seem that it might be possible to 
kludge one of the supported cables together with a Pentax cable or IR 
remote.) I just used a low tech approach for the damselfly and set the 
camera to continuous shooting, focused, and then pivoted in and out as 
the frames snapped off.


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Question about lightroom after upgrading to 5

[Eric Weir]

I've upgraded to LR 5 in my new computer from LR 3 on the old one. You will 
recall---if not, take my word for it---I lost my entire photo database. It 
actually happened back at the turn of the year, but I only discovered it a 
couple weeks ago. Nevertheless, in LR3 I could still see the images even though 
the database was missing.

I've imported my old catalogue into LR 5 following instructions I got on the 
web [Laura Shoe video]. When I open up LR 5 and navigate to the empty folders I 
no longer see the images. Only empty slide frames. Is that as it should be?

It shouldn't matter. The files are gone. I couldn't do anything with the images 
in LR 3 anyway. But at least I had reminders of what I had.

[Or maybe I'm mistaken. Maybe there are things that could be done with whatever 
it was I have in my LR 3 installation. I'll be surprise if that's the case, but 
of course also delighted.]

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PAW181 - Roses

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http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
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Re: GESO (22) - Balloon adventure

[Bob W]

On 23 Jun 2013, at 21:36, "Daniel J. Matyola"  wrote:

> I'm sorry if you find the ads on Photo.Net such a problem.
> 
> Not all services are equal.  The flexibility of Photo.Net makes it
> worth the minor convenience of the ads, in my view.  One click, and
> they are gone.  I prefer that to the strange interface used by most of
> the alternatives.  Photo.Net offers a lot of storage, a lot of
> flexibility, and ease of use.  Millions of visitors manage to visit
> the site and look ate the images despite the minor inconvenience of
> the ads.
> 

One click and I'm gone.

It's up to you if you want your convenience to be at the expense of your 
potential viewers, but I think that's a lousy attitude. 

You've suggested that we should subscribe to photo.net if we don't want to see 
ads. Do you seriously think people are going to subscribe to every website that 
shows annoying ads annoyingly? Do you subscribe to them all? No, people are 
just going to leave those sites. One of the basic rules of web design is don't 
piss off your customers.

As for your millions of visitors, if you scale up the number of people on this 
list who've complained a great many times about photo.net you may get some 
sense of how much annoyance those ads cause to people. And if you scale up 
similarly the number of people on this list who use that 'one click' to leave 
your site rather than look at your pictures when an ad gets in the way, you'll 
get some idea of how many viewers photo.net is driving away.

B

> 
> 
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> 
> 
> On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Bob W  wrote:
>> On 23 Jun 2013, at 19:58, "Daniel J. Matyola"  wrote:
>> 
>>> I don't see the ads, probabley because I subscribe to Photo.Net.
>>> 
>>> Remember, if you don't pay for a service, you are the product being sold.
>> 
>> You are not obliged to subscribe to a service that uses ads. I pay for a 
>> website and it does not thrust ads in people's faces just because they 
>> haven't also subscribed. I think it's rude of people to use websites that do 
>> that, and photo.net et al should have the decency not to serve ads at all 
>> through subscribers' pages.
>> 
>> If I were you I'd be very unhappy about that because you're paying photo.net 
>> to host your pictures, yet their stupid ads are driving viewers away from 
>> them, and nobody gains.
>> 
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Re: Odd M50/1.4

[Collin Brendemuehl]

>Collin, how about a photo of the lens?

Here it is:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/321149417457?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984
.m1558.l2649

Given the comments, maybe it's just me who is a little off. :0 Stay cool,
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Re: GESO (22) - Balloon adventure

[Daniel J. Matyola]

I'm sorry if you find the ads on Photo.Net such a problem.

Not all services are equal.  The flexibility of Photo.Net makes it
worth the minor convenience of the ads, in my view.  One click, and
they are gone.  I prefer that to the strange interface used by most of
the alternatives.  Photo.Net offers a lot of storage, a lot of
flexibility, and ease of use.  Millions of visitors manage to visit
the site and look ate the images despite the minor inconvenience of
the ads.



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On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Bob W  wrote:
> On 23 Jun 2013, at 19:58, "Daniel J. Matyola"  wrote:
>
>> I don't see the ads, probabley because I subscribe to Photo.Net.
>>
>> Remember, if you don't pay for a service, you are the product being sold.
>
> You are not obliged to subscribe to a service that uses ads. I pay for a 
> website and it does not thrust ads in people's faces just because they 
> haven't also subscribed. I think it's rude of people to use websites that do 
> that, and photo.net et al should have the decency not to serve ads at all 
> through subscribers' pages.
>
> If I were you I'd be very unhappy about that because you're paying photo.net 
> to host your pictures, yet their stupid ads are driving viewers away from 
> them, and nobody gains.
>
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Re: GESO (22) - Balloon adventure

[Bob W]

On 23 Jun 2013, at 19:58, "Daniel J. Matyola"  wrote:

> I don't see the ads, probabley because I subscribe to Photo.Net.
> 
> Remember, if you don't pay for a service, you are the product being sold.

You are not obliged to subscribe to a service that uses ads. I pay for a 
website and it does not thrust ads in people's faces just because they haven't 
also subscribed. I think it's rude of people to use websites that do that, and 
photo.net et al should have the decency not to serve ads at all through 
subscribers' pages. 

If I were you I'd be very unhappy about that because you're paying photo.net to 
host your pictures, yet their stupid ads are driving viewers away from them, 
and nobody gains.

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Re: GESO (22) - Balloon adventure

[Daniel J. Matyola]

I don't see the ads, probabley because I subscribe to Photo.Net.

Remember, if you don't pay for a service, you are the product being sold.

Dan Matyola
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On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 7:37 AM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> On 21/6/13, Rick Womer, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
> Nice gallery! I do hate the ads that photo.net insists on showing.

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Re: GESO (22) - Balloon adventure

[Bob Sullivan]

Rick,
Nice balloon flight documentary.
The shots of the countryside below are wonderful.
The deer, the homes on the culdsack, but the best
was the landscape with the cooling towers in the background.
I can see the power lines and can't believe you flew so close.
Thanks for the ride!
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> Thanks, Cotty!
>
> I don't like the ads, either; but I haven't found a service I'd be more 
> content with.  Tried SmugMug for a year, but way more expensive for few 
> advantages.
>
> Rick
>
> http://photo.net/photos/RickW
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Steve Cottrell 
> To: pentax list 
> Cc:
> Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 7:37 AM
> Subject: Re: GESO (22) - Balloon adventure
>
> On 21/6/13, Rick Womer, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>Enough blather!  The gallery is here:
>>
>>http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=1055134
>
> Nice gallery! I do hate the ads that photo.net insists on showing.
>
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Re: K-5 crooked sensor repair - kludge recommendations?

[Larry Colen]

On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 12:52:42PM -0400, John Sessoms wrote:
> From: Larry Colen
> >I asked CRIS what it would cost to just straighten the sensor and
> >disable shake reduction.  They said that they are a factory authorized
> >repair facility and such a repair would not meet their required standards.
> >
> >Any recommendations for someone who would be willing to do a
> >such a repair?
> 
> Send it to Cotty.
That'd be cool. When I got it back, I'd be able to use the lenses from 
my old Minolta SRT-101 on it.


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Re: GESO (22) - Balloon adventure

[John Sessoms]

From: "Steve Cottrell"

On 21/6/13, Rick Womer, discombobulated, unleashed:


Enough blather! ?The gallery is here:

http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=1055134


Nice gallery! I do hate the ads that photo.net insists on showing.


I don't see no steenkin' ads?

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RE: GESO - Port Isaac, Cornwall

[John Sessoms]

From: "Steve Cottrell"


Small gallery of pics from a walk in Cornwall...



Cheers, Cotty


I particularly like the moody lighting of the last one.

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Re: Dragonflies and Stack Focused Damselfly

[John Sessoms]

From: Mark C

I visited a prime dragonfly location yesterday, but the cool temps,
gusty winds and overcast skies did not make for a high volume shoot. I
got 3 nice shots which are here:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php?blog=2

Permalink:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/june-odonata-2013

The last shot on the post - the Bluet Damselfly - is a departure for me
because it is a focus stacked  composition of 16 separate shots. This
was compiled in Photoshop. The focus stacking tool there had seemed to
be useless to me because it was such a  PITA to manually stack images as
layers in a single file -but I finally stumbled on a webpage that
explains how to use bridge to open multiple files and then make them
just layers of one file in Photoshop - ah, life is good. I can see doing
more focus stacking in the future - it worked pretty well in the field
yesterday.

C&C appreciated.

Mark


One of my local nature photography cohorts has bought that CamRanger
device that allows you to control the camera from your iPhone/iPad for
macro focus stacking. He's very impressed with it.

Currently it only supports CaNikon cameras which would be a major
drawback for me.

... unless Pentax can't get their shit together & I end up with a D600.

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Re: New FF rumour from France

[Ralf R. Radermacher]

John Sessoms  wrote:

> That doesn't sound like a rumor so much as wishful thinking by the writer.

In the past their predictions were usually right. We'll see...

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Re: CNN does Portraits of Chicago Sun Times Photogs

[P.J. Alling]

It's a downward spiral, you cut back on news.  The way to stop it is to 
figure out how to attract new readers not cut/debase content.  That only 
causes the loss of more readers with attendant loss of revenue, which 
leads to more loss of content.  Eventually the paper will fold or be 
nothing more than an advertising sheet.  I've seen this trend bucked 
just once.


On 6/23/2013 10:58 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:

Hi Everyone:

As I posted earlier, the Chicago Sun Times newspaper has fired its entire 
photography staff.  CNN has done a gallery of portraits of each of the 
photographers.  Bio information is included under each photo.  It's a nice 
gallery on a very sad story.  Just thought you might be interested

http://cnnphotos.blogs.cnn.com/2013/06/21/we-are-the-chicago-sun-times-photography-department/?hpt=hp_bn14

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Re: PESO - Blanca Peak

[John Sessoms]

Alamosa is one of my favorite places in Colorado. Your Blanca Peak looks
like what I remember seeing the real peak. Not "over-cooked" at all.

From: Brian Walters

Quoting Igor Roshchin :

Brian,

That's a great photo!
Before I saw other people's (and your own) comments, my first reaction
was: "That's a photo worth going on a trip to the US".



Thanks, Igor.

The Alamosa area proved to be one of the more interesting places we
visited.  We weren't expecting much (we only booked to stay there
because it's the closest town to the Great Sand Dunes NP), but the
landscape around the town is stunning.

Thanks to all who looked and/or commented.  It seems that Jack and I
were the only ones who had some misgivings about the image.  I was a
bit concerned that HDR Efex had 'over-cooked' it a bit.  I still may
do some work on it to reduce the intensity of the colour of the
foreground (but I will keep the original version, Bruce :-)> ).



Cheers

Brian



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Re: TYTimes blog: A lost interview with HCB

[John Sessoms]

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Henri-Cartier-Bresson-Landscape-Townscape-Landscapes/dp/0500542392

From: "knarftheriault

I think you're mistaken.

HCB did reportage.

Ansel Adams did landscapes. You're probably confusing them.

Don't feel bad. It could happen to anyone.

Cheers,
frank, using attempted humour to cover his feelings of humiliation

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He was a brilliant landscape photographer - even published a book of them.

B


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Re: TYTimes blog: A lost interview with HCB

[John Sessoms]

From: Mark Roberts

Bob W wrote:


On 22 Jun 2013, at 21:39, "knarftheria...@gmail.com"  
wrote:


He might have felt differently were he a landscape or nature photographer, but 
he never could be those, could he?


He was a brilliant landscape photographer - even published a book of them.


I had an HDC calendar with a couple of his landscape photos in it.
They were brilliant. Made me wonder who made his prints for him as I
gather he didn't do his own darkroom work.


Sent 'em off to Costco?

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Re: GESO - Port Isaac, Cornwall

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Very nice!  I especially like the telephone booth and the two gents in
the doorway.

Dan Matyola
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> Fine shots, Cotty; #2 especially.
>
> On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 7:29 AM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
>> Small gallery of pics from a walk in Cornwall...
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Re: buying a camera from Canada

[John Sessoms]

From: David J Brooks

On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 10:50 AM, John Sessoms  wrote:

From: Larry Colen


are there any warranty ramification to someone in the US buying a K-5II
from a canadian store?  Or does CRIS consider it all one territory?



Where do Canadian purchasers send their cameras for warranty work?


Directly to Pentax here in the Toronto area(*Mississauga), or if still
under camera store extend warrenty i let them send it.
I always thought Pentax warranty was international, no??


Dave


I don't know. I just remember one of the drawbacks of buying so-called
"grey market" cameras in the past was the U.S. subsidiary wouldn't honor
the international warranty & the country of origin subsidiary wouldn't
accept cameras sent for repair from the U.S.

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RE: New FF rumour from France

[John Sessoms]

From: fotoralf

Usually well-informed French magazine R?ponses Photo has a short piece
on the K-50 and the K-500. But the really interesting bit of information
comes at the very end of the article:

"We would have hoped for some more audacity. But let's wait a little, as
it might well be that the end of the year will have a nice surprise in
store for us, in the semi-pro range, somewhere between the K-5II and the
645D..."

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That doesn't sound like a rumor so much as wishful thinking by the writer.

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Re: GESO (22) - Balloon adventure

[Rick Womer]

Thanks, Cotty!

I don't like the ads, either; but I haven't found a service I'd be more content 
with.  Tried SmugMug for a year, but way more expensive for few advantages.

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Subject: Re: GESO (22) - Balloon adventure

On 21/6/13, Rick Womer, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Enough blather!  The gallery is here:
>
>http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=1055134

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Re: CNN does Portraits of Chicago Sun Times Photogs

[Rick Womer]

Two thoughts:

First, may the fleas of a thousand camels infest the armpits of the Sun-Times 
management.

Second: ONE woman and ONE African-American (and no other apparent minorities) 
in a staff of 23 in a city as diverse as Chicago?  It indicates that the 
Sun-Times management has been lousy for a long time.

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Subject: CNN does Portraits of Chicago Sun Times Photogs

Hi Everyone:

As I posted earlier, the Chicago Sun Times newspaper has fired its entire 
photography staff.  CNN has done a gallery of portraits of each of the 
photographers.  Bio information is included under each photo.  It's a nice 
gallery on a very sad story.  Just thought you might be interested

http://cnnphotos.blogs.cnn.com/2013/06/21/we-are-the-chicago-sun-times-photography-department/?hpt=hp_bn14

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Re: PESO: another merganser portrait (and a Loon)

[Aahz Maruch]

On Sun, Jun 09, 2013, Stan Halpin wrote:
>
> A slightly looser crop of the Merganser is here:
> http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p155717848/e6de8c0d6

I'd pull the crop in on the left: I agree that the details on the beak
really make the photo, and I also agree that more wake is Good.  If that
means losing some space on the left, I bet that's still the best
compromise.  I probably would crop top and bottom, too.
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Re: K-5 crooked sensor repair - kludge recommendations?

[John Sessoms]

From: Larry Colen

I asked CRIS what it would cost to just straighten the sensor and
disable shake reduction.  They said that they are a factory authorized
repair facility and such a repair would not meet their required standards.

Any recommendations for someone who would be willing to do a
such a repair?


Send it to Cotty.

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Re: CNN does Portraits of Chicago Sun Times Photogs

[Paul Stenquist]

A sad story. It will be interesting to see how this works out. 

Paul
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> Hi Everyone:
> 
> As I posted earlier, the Chicago Sun Times newspaper has fired its entire 
> photography staff.  CNN has done a gallery of portraits of each of the 
> photographers.  Bio information is included under each photo.  It's a nice 
> gallery on a very sad story.  Just thought you might be interested
> 
> http://cnnphotos.blogs.cnn.com/2013/06/21/we-are-the-chicago-sun-times-photography-department/?hpt=hp_bn14
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Re: Test

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On Sun, Jun 23, 2013, Christine Aguila wrote:
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> Test

Fail
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National Park Safari

[Bipin Gupta]

Thank you PDML'ers for watching the white tiger photo and your
encouraging comments.

For Jack: yes that was a butterfly on the flank of Tiger # 2. I did
not realize then that butterflies and tigers were friends in the wild.

For Bob: unforgettable memories re-kindled for you: see link below for
photos of the Mysore Maharaja's Palace take this June.

Monkey photo: must read for this monkeys very human behavior: he
jumped and grabbed the banana from the small bamboo basket containing
garlands, a coconut, some bananas, incense sticks, camphor, that the
lady was carrying as offering to the mountain top temple in Mysore.
Her son tried to shoo the monkey away. The monkey grabbed his trousers
and pretended to bite him, but he did not. The monkey repeated this
act thrice, till the boy ran away and let him eat the banana
peacefully.

The Jhatka: an ancient horse drawn mode of travel for 4-people. Will
be extinct very soon.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/3aopbmbwxvfs2xa/Dh6xqipwNQ

I have re-attached the old link in case some of you want to see a
white tiger in the wild:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/szxpaovs5y9yj8v/8XtKox6X9-

Regards.
Bipin - from that far away enchanting land.

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Re: New camera

[Thomas Bohn]

Am 22.06.2013 um 19:22 schrieb Boris Liberman :

> But, Thomas, if you only need a camera body to put behind your 35 mm prime, 
> then may be the likes of Ricoh GXR with the 33/2.5 (aka 50 macro) lensor 
> module would suit you.

Th GXR looks nice but there are either cheap kits (250 to 270 euros) or 
expensive lenses for 500 euros and more.

The K-01 would be an alternative if it were not for the weird design of the 
camera (300 euros for the body).

Thomas
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Re: PESO: Cowgirl Poetry

[Bruce Walker]

On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Walt  wrote:
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> It's nice to get kudos -- I really love it, in fact. I also really love chili 
> dogs.
> But a steady diet of kudos and chili dogs isn't the best route to 
> self-improvement.

Mark!

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CNN does Portraits of Chicago Sun Times Photogs

[Christine Aguila]

Hi Everyone:

As I posted earlier, the Chicago Sun Times newspaper has fired its entire 
photography staff.  CNN has done a gallery of portraits of each of the 
photographers.  Bio information is included under each photo.  It's a nice 
gallery on a very sad story.  Just thought you might be interested

http://cnnphotos.blogs.cnn.com/2013/06/21/we-are-the-chicago-sun-times-photography-department/?hpt=hp_bn14

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Re: PESO: Cowgirl Poetry

[Walt]

Thanks, Darren.

I think the focus might have been thrown off when I was squatted down 
and rocked back on my feet a bit when I lost balance. But, when I saw it 
in LR, I liked it well enough that I thought I could still use it. And 
once I warmed the tones just a bit and softened it, I really liked the 
aesthetic, so I went with it. As in most cases when there's an issue 
that needs to be diagnosed in my photos, I safely default to ineptitude.


As to right/wrong, correct/flawed dichotomies, I guess I just have a bit 
of a hidebound viewpoint. That is, if the image could have been better 
or more effective if done another way, I consider it flawed. I don't 
generally apply that standard to anyone's work but my own, since I can't 
really know what someone else had in mind when they were creating their 
images. But, for my purposes, a little self-recrimination helps to make 
me a bit more mindful in the future. I want to be a better photographer 
next week than I was last week, and that's why I offer up my images for 
critique.


It's nice to get kudos -- I really love it, in fact. I also really love 
chili dogs. But a steady diet of kudos and chili dogs isn't the best 
route to self-improvement.


Thanks again, and thanks to Stan and Frank for the suggestions.

-- Walt

On 6/22/2013 10:25 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

I want to slightly amend my earlier comment. This is a pleasing image,
but the focus is off significantly. The reason it still works is
because some softness can be pleasing in portraiture, but if you look
at the stones at her feet, the tree bark and the vegetation behind the
subject you can see that the focal plane is behind the tree. Not sure
if this was manually focused or autofocused, but you might want to
diagnose where the problem lies.

On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 9:35 PM, Darren Addy  wrote:

I think it is a lovely portrait, just as it is.

Next in the series, I might have had her put her right hand behind
her, in the small of her back. Then with the same pose have her look
up at the camera. Then perhaps crop in closer to a bit more than a
head & shoulders shot. I can see a whole series of things with slight
changes as we go along. Nice use of the light and you are to commended
for the height of the camera off the ground for this shot. It wouldn't
be as effective if you had been standing and shooting down at her.
Well done.

On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Stan Halpin
 wrote:

Exactly, Frank. No "right" or "wrong", correct or flawed, in this discussion. Just 
suggestions about other ways to look at a scene. Direct gaze, or not? Tight crop, or pull back to show 
a smallish figure in a large world? Sharp or soft? Color or B&W? Any combination of these choices 
will probably provide a decent image. Ultimately, it is your choice as to which you like the best, and 
it is your clients' choice as to which they like the best. And BTW you and your clients may totally 
disagree, and that is ok also; their choice may well be ones that are far from your own favorites.

stan

On Jun 22, 2013, at 1:15 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:


Hey Walt, the crop (or lack thereof) isn't a "flaw". You just haven't tried it 
yet on this photo.

Yeah "cropping in the camera" is most often preferred but not always possible.

The crop I'm proposing isn't a drastic one and should be very do-able without 
screwing up anything. But who knows, it might not work and you'll prefer this 
framing.

Cheers,
frank

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Subject: Re: PESO: Cowgirl Poetry

Thank you, Frank!

She was definitely a cute little young lady. She and her mother both
seem pleased with the photos I got, and her mother informed me that she
definitely wants me to do her fall portraits later this year.

Looks like the crop is the biggest flaw in the image -- though the lack
of softness in the grass is something I wish I'd picked up on before, as
well. So, the shot still  needs a bit of work, but I do like the mood I
was able to capture.

As for your birds, bikes, beasts and blokes, I like the work you're
doing and if you're enjoying it, that's the important thing. And I
suspect if you really wanted to do shots of pretty girls, you could
probably arrange it in fairly short order. :)

Thanks again. I do appreciate the input.

-- Walt

On 6/22/2013 10:24 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

1) You are my hero. I'm taking bird, bike, beast and bloke photos (and not 
"bird" in the English slang sense) and here you are hanging around with 
beautiful young women taking beautiful photos.

2) Like this a lot. Yeah, seeing her eyes would be nice, but that would be a different 
photo (yes, there's frank stating the obvious again). My point is, this works and creates 
(or should I say "captures") great mood. Pose, outfit, background, light all 
work together here.

I ~might~ crop just a bit off the left. That space does nothing and getting her a bit 
more off-centre would make 

Re: Dragonflies and Stack Focused Damselfly

[Bruce Walker]

Very fine shots, Mark, the focus stacked one best of all. You are
fortunate indeed that your live subject sits still long enough to get
16 shots of it!

The "load images into multiple layers" trick also works with Lightroom
and CS5, for anyone who cares.

On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 10:53 AM, Mark C  wrote:
> Thanks, Paul, and to everyone else who took a look.
>
> I did use Photoshop CS6 for the focus stacking - I finally learned about the
> "Load Files Into Photoshop Layers" command in Bridge which makes stacking a
> larger group of files much easier!
>
> Mark
>
>
> On 6/22/2013 10:43 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>>
>> Excellent work. in focus stacking, do you use the PhotoShop align and
>> blend tools? Superb.
>>
>> Paul
>> On Jun 22, 2013, at 8:37 PM, Mark C  wrote:
>>
>>> I visited a prime dragonfly location yesterday, but the cool temps, gusty
>>> winds and overcast skies did not make for a high volume shoot. I got 3 nice
>>> shots which are here:
>>>
>>> http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php?blog=2
>>>
>>> Permalink:
>>>
>>> http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/june-odonata-2013
>>>
>>> The last shot on the post - the Bluet Damselfly - is a departure for me
>>> because it is a focus stacked  composition of 16 separate shots. This was
>>> compiled in Photoshop. The focus stacking tool there had seemed to be
>>> useless to me because it was such a  PITA to manually stack images as layers
>>> in a single file -but I finally stumbled on a webpage that explains how
>>> to use bridge to open multiple files and then make them just layers of one
>>> file in Photoshop - ah, life is good. I can see doing more focus stacking in
>>> the future - it worked pretty well in the field yesterday.
>>>
>>> C&C appreciated.
>>>
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Re: GESO - Port Isaac, Cornwall

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Fine shots, Cotty; #2 especially.

On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 7:29 AM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
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Re: Dragonflies and Stack Focused Damselfly

[Mark C]

Thanks, Paul, and to everyone else who took a look.

I did use Photoshop CS6 for the focus stacking - I finally learned about 
the "Load Files Into Photoshop Layers" command in Bridge which makes 
stacking a larger group of files much easier!


Mark

On 6/22/2013 10:43 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Excellent work. in focus stacking, do you use the PhotoShop align and blend 
tools? Superb.

Paul
On Jun 22, 2013, at 8:37 PM, Mark C  wrote:


I visited a prime dragonfly location yesterday, but the cool temps, gusty winds 
and overcast skies did not make for a high volume shoot. I got 3 nice shots 
which are here:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php?blog=2

Permalink:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/june-odonata-2013

The last shot on the post - the Bluet Damselfly - is a departure for me because 
it is a focus stacked  composition of 16 separate shots. This was compiled in 
Photoshop. The focus stacking tool there had seemed to be useless to me because 
it was such a  PITA to manually stack images as layers in a single file -
but I finally stumbled on a webpage that explains how to use bridge to open 
multiple files and then make them just layers of one file in Photoshop - ah, 
life is good. I can see doing more focus stacking in the future - it worked 
pretty well in the field yesterday.

C&C appreciated.

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Re: GESO - Port Isaac, Cornwall

[Steve Cottrell]

On 23/6/13, Rick Womer, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I really like this.  Cornwall may have my favorite seacoast, and I
>really like the coastal path.

It reminds me of the Californian coast - except for the lack or Redwoods ;-)

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Re: Dragonflies and Stack Focused Damselfly

[Rick Womer]

Beautiful.  I'll have to look up this focus stacking thing...

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Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 8:37 PM
Subject: Dragonflies and Stack Focused Damselfly

I visited a prime dragonfly location yesterday, but the cool temps, gusty winds 
and overcast skies did not make for a high volume shoot. I got 3 nice shots 
which are here:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php?blog=2

Permalink:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/june-odonata-2013

The last shot on the post - the Bluet Damselfly - is a departure for me because 
it is a focus stacked  composition of 16 separate shots. This was compiled in 
Photoshop. The focus stacking tool there had seemed to be useless to me because 
it was such a  PITA to manually stack images as layers in a single file -    
but I finally stumbled on a webpage that explains how to use bridge to open 
multiple files and then make them just layers of one file in Photoshop - ah, 
life is good. I can see doing more focus stacking in the future - it worked 
pretty well in the field yesterday.

C&C appreciated.

Mark

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Re: GESO - Port Isaac, Cornwall

[Rick Womer]

I really like this.  Cornwall may have my favorite seacoast, and I really like 
the coastal path.

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Subject: GESO - Port Isaac, Cornwall

Small gallery of pics from a walk in Cornwall...



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Re: GESO - Port Isaac, Cornwall

[Paul Stenquist]

Excellent, all.

On Jun 23, 2013, at 7:44 AM, Bob W  wrote:

> Very nice indeed. I hope you all talked loik poirates all day long.
> 
> B-rrrgh-b.
> 
> On 23 Jun 2013, at 12:29, "Steve Cottrell"  wrote:
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>> Small gallery of pics from a walk in Cornwall...
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: PESO: Gorgeous eyes

[Bulent Celasun]

Sweet boy!
Perfect, selective DOF.

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2013/6/23 David Parsons 
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> http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/9110031409/
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> We had some friends over for a cookout, and their 8 month old has the
> most beautiful eyes.  He was sitting in his stroller and I had to get
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Re: GESO - Port Isaac, Cornwall

[Steve Cottrell]

On 23/6/13, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Very nice indeed. I hope you all talked loik poirates all day long.

I couldn't be rsed.

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Re: GESO - Port Isaac, Cornwall

[Bob W]

Very nice indeed. I hope you all talked loik poirates all day long.

B-rrrgh-b.

On 23 Jun 2013, at 12:29, "Steve Cottrell"  wrote:

> Small gallery of pics from a walk in Cornwall...
> 
> 
> 
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Re: PESO - Blanca Peak

[Steve Cottrell]

On 21/6/13, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Here's one taken around dusk from Alamosa, Colorado.
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>https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP2364-
K5-1peso.html
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>http://tinyurl.com/myv7k69

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Re: GESO (22) - Balloon adventure

[Steve Cottrell]

On 21/6/13, Rick Womer, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Enough blather!  The gallery is here:
>
>http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=1055134

Nice gallery! I do hate the ads that photo.net insists on showing.

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GESO - Port Isaac, Cornwall

[Steve Cottrell]

Small gallery of pics from a walk in Cornwall...



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