PESO: Water Lily

[Daniel J. Matyola]

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Re: PESO: Up on the Roof

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks, Ann.

Dan Matyola
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On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 11:48 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
> It's a bit scary to look at.. takes a second to realize they
> are not real... LIke those fake owls on phone poles.
>
> I think you did it well
>
> ann
>
>
> On 8/2/2013 10:49, John wrote:
>>
>> Some kind of a triptych maybe?
>>
>> On 8/2/2013 9:27 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks, Frank.
>>>
>>>
>>> For me, this was a difficult shot to compose.  This sculpture can only
>>> be seen from a distance (light some of the ones that are displayed
>>> along the interstate highway and local roads).  The building is quite
>>> a bit taller than it appears in my image.  If, however, I showed the
>>> entire building, the figures are so small that they lose their
>>> individuality and charm.  OTOH, if I zoom in to make the figures
>>> dominate the frame, it is not apparent that they are out on the ledge
>>> of a mid-rise building, and the whole point of the piece is lost.
>>> This image is therefore very much of a compromise, and I am still
>>> uncertain whether there is a better way to show the height and the
>>> individual sculptures.
>>>
>>> Dan Matyola
>>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 10:59 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
>>>  wrote:

 Bloody brilliant!

 cheers,
 frank

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Re: OT Brilliant

[Boris Liberman]

IIUC you can swap between all mounts that are supported by Sigma for the 
given lens. So Pentax is in fact included...


It would seem that Sigma is skyrocketing to become the most desirable 
lens brand - at least in terms of versatility, diversity and 
user-friendly useful features. Also, it seems that their recent lenses 
are just as good optically as anything else out there, so Sigma gets my 
thumbs up.


On 8/2/2013 10:41 AM, Rob Studdert wrote:

Change your mind?
Change you mount.

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1231146




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Re: Few PESOs and new gear report

[Boris Liberman]

Hi, Godfrey!

On 8/3/2013 11:48 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

Nice photos, both of them. That's about as brutal as I can get.
"Etude" really does seem reminiscent of an open grand piano when I
look at the geometry. Love the shot of the iPhone picture taker too.


Oh, the analogy with grand piano never occurred to me. But I also did 
like the geometry and the idea that this scene would nicely lend itself 
to b&w rendering.



Yes, the Heliar 15 is quite a nice lens. I had one once upon a time
that I used on the Leica CL ... When I compared it with the Zeiss
Hologon 16mm T* for the Contax G2, the Zeiss lens was obviously a
better performer in many ways, but what a pain to use compared to the
Voigtländer. AND five times the price. (I sold the Contax G2 kit
shortly afterwards, never really got used to it; liked the CL and a
couple of lenses much more. Still have a CL today, which I use
occasionally.) I keep going back and forth on whether to acquire
another Heliar 15. It's a bit wide for me, really; I think I'll do
better with the Ultron 21mm f/1.8.


Well, it depends. If I understand correctly you shoot with Leica M9. If 
so, then on my Ricoh GXR-M the Heliar 15 mm will provide angle of view 
similar to that of Ultron 21 mm on M9.


Can you please elaborate on the specifics in which Hologon 16 would 
outperform Heliar 15? I am curious, you see. Of course I'm interested in 
the performance under the limitations (such as maximal aperture) of 
Heliar. Because, in such wide a lens what I think is more important is 
sharpness and here Heliar does just great. I did not yet have a chance 
to make a photograph where its OOF rendering qualities would be seen. I 
doubt such a shot would readily come my way :-).


I was thinking about a lens to put between 15 mm and 40 mm but I have 
two lensors - 18 mm and 33 mm (actual F.L.) that sit there just nicely. 
And also it seems that Ultron 21/1.8 is rather big and heavy due to its 
fast aperture...


Boris

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Re: Few PESOs and new gear report

[Boris Liberman]

Thanks, Bob.

Indeed, you're right, the little girl in the 2nd image is not Anat. Anat 
shoots with Pentax P&S camera, not the cell phone :-).


I should point out that the fact that Heliar is so small and so sharp 
has to do with the mount, so indeed - no K-mount or any other SLR mount 
for that matter. As of recently I don't feel like shooting with big SLR 
(compared to my Ricoh the K-5 is positively huge) at all.


On 8/3/2013 10:09 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

Boris,
Like the images.  Don't tell me that's Anat in the 2nd one.
The shots with the Voightlander Heliar 15/4.5 look very good,
but no Pentax mount. :-(
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Boris Liberman  wrote:

Hi!

I admit that having Flickr integrated into LightRoom makes me lazy, and so
my blog does not get the attention it deserves. Playing a catch up game
here:

Etude:
http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2013/08/2013-34-etude.html

Eye contact:
http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2013/08/2013-35-eye-contact.html

Additionally, I'm slowly making my way into Leica M-mount lenses. Just a few
days ago Voigtlander Heliar 15/4.5 arrived and here is a brief blog post
about it:

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2013/08/voigtlander-super-wide-heliar-15mm-f45.html

Wonderful lens, this little Heliar is...

As usual, please brutally and honestly comment and critique my photographs
:-).

Boris

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Re: Few PESOs and new gear report

[Boris Liberman]

Thanks, Daniel!

On 8/4/2013 4:24 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

I love the little photographer.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 2:16 PM, Boris Liberman  wrote:

Hi!

I admit that having Flickr integrated into LightRoom makes me lazy, and so
my blog does not get the attention it deserves. Playing a catch up game
here:

Etude:
http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2013/08/2013-34-etude.html

Eye contact:
http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2013/08/2013-35-eye-contact.html

Additionally, I'm slowly making my way into Leica M-mount lenses. Just a few
days ago Voigtlander Heliar 15/4.5 arrived and here is a brief blog post
about it:

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2013/08/voigtlander-super-wide-heliar-15mm-f45.html

Wonderful lens, this little Heliar is...

As usual, please brutally and honestly comment and critique my photographs
:-).

Boris

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Re: Geso Old Fashioned Threshing Bee

[Ann Sanfedele]

I love those mules :-)

What a nice set, Don - really puts you there -  I have a thing
about square thumbnails, though - I'd have liked to have seen the
whole set in the proportions you shot them in ... which is always
my preference - Then someone can really see what you shot instead
of some almost arbitrary crop.

There is some redundancy - I imagine a few you have up there because you 
couldnt'decide which you liked better. I'm entitled to say that,

having done much the same many times myself :-)

ann

On 8/2/2013 17:33, Don Guthrie wrote:

This summer I have recorded a steam train and now some steam powered
tractors in action. These were taken with K-5 and I have included a few
B&W conversions. No horses but a few mules.

Comments & Critique welcomed.

http://donspix.smugmug.com/Landscapes/Rural-Iowa/The-Threshing-Bee/30917552_q5xcdK




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Re: PESO: Up on the Roof

[Ann Sanfedele]

It's a bit scary to look at.. takes a second to realize they
are not real... LIke those fake owls on phone poles.

I think you did it well

ann

On 8/2/2013 10:49, John wrote:

Some kind of a triptych maybe?

On 8/2/2013 9:27 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Thanks, Frank.


For me, this was a difficult shot to compose.  This sculpture can only
be seen from a distance (light some of the ones that are displayed
along the interstate highway and local roads).  The building is quite
a bit taller than it appears in my image.  If, however, I showed the
entire building, the figures are so small that they lose their
individuality and charm.  OTOH, if I zoom in to make the figures
dominate the frame, it is not apparent that they are out on the ledge
of a mid-rise building, and the whole point of the piece is lost.
This image is therefore very much of a compromise, and I am still
uncertain whether there is a better way to show the height and the
individual sculptures.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 10:59 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
 wrote:

Bloody brilliant!

cheers,
frank

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From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 
Sent: August 1, 2013 8/1/13
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: PESO: Up on the Roof

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Re: PESO, while setting up the lights

[kwaller]

It somehow seems to reflect/support the feeling you get from her 
expression. An emptyness or loneliness or

reflection on something intense?


Then to me it would make more sense to have the blank space on the left of 
her (her R H side) as if she was looking into it!


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- Original Message - 
From: "Larry Colen" 

Subject: Re: PESO, while setting up the lights



On Sat, Aug 03, 2013 at 09:14:31PM -0400, Gerrit Visser wrote:

I prefer the original 'crop'. It somehow seems to reflect/support the
feeling you get from her expression. An emptyness or loneliness or
reflection on something intense?


Thank you.  That was exactly my goal with the original composition.




Gerrit

-Original Message-
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Larry Colen
Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2013 9:01 PM
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Subject: Re: PESO, while setting up the lights

On Sat, Aug 03, 2013 at 04:08:48PM -0400, Kenneth Waller wrote:
>
> It is so obviously a portrait, I don't understand why it was shot in
landscape mode. The blank space on the RHSide is distracting.

Actually it was shot to check the exposure, primarily of the background.
I cropped it that way because I happen to like portraits with a lot of
negative space, and to cut out the backdrop stands and other detritus 
that

was in the original shot.

But, I was willing to try a more conventional crop, do you like this one
better?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9430436915/in/set-72157634890993590/

>
> -Original Message-
> >From: Larry Colen  >Subject: PESO, while setting up the lights
> >
> >One of my favorite photos from the shoot a few nights ago came while
> >I was just setting up the lights and setting the exposure.  Sophia
> >was just sitting on her stool, biding her time while I futzed with
> >the camera and took test shots to set the exposure.
> >The backdrop was white seamless paper, with red gelled strobes
> >flashing at the back of it. There was a key light camera right, and a
> >fill camera left.
> >
> >There is something about this shot that I really like even though
> >there was no thought as to posing or anything beyond "is the lighting
> >correct" when I took it.
> >
> >It took a fair bit of processing to bring the color out of the
> >background in lightroom.  If I brought the exposure up properly for
> >Sophia, then the red totally washed out.
> >
> >http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9427045630/in/set-7215763489099
> >3590
> >
> >Comments, as always are welcome.  Particularly for things I could do
> >to improve the processing.
> >
> >ISO 80, f/8, 1/80 second
> >
> >Exposure +1.65, highlights -51, shadows +40, blacks -11 adjustment
> >brush exposure -2.49 saturation 60 with fading in around her and at
> >the edges.
> >
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Re: PESO, while setting up the lights

[kwaller]

.I happen to like portraits with a lot of negative space,

To me it would make more sense, if you wanted negative spacer, to include it 
on the L H  side.



But, I was willing to try a more conventional crop, do you like this one
better?


Definitely yes!

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- Original Message - 
From: "Larry Colen" 

Subject: Re: PESO, while setting up the lights



On Sat, Aug 03, 2013 at 04:08:48PM -0400, Kenneth Waller wrote:


It is so obviously a portrait, I don't understand why it was shot in 
landscape mode. The blank space on the RHSide is distracting.


Actually it was shot to check the exposure, primarily of the background.
I cropped it that way because I happen to like portraits with a lot of
negative space, and to cut out the backdrop stands and other detritus
that was in the original shot.

But, I was willing to try a more conventional crop, do you like this one
better?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9430436915/in/set-72157634890993590/



-Original Message-
>From: Larry Colen Subject: PESO, while setting up the lights
>
>One of my favorite photos from the shoot a few nights ago came while I
>was just setting up the lights and setting the exposure.  Sophia was
>just sitting on her stool, biding her time while I futzed with the
>camera and took test shots to set the exposure.
>The backdrop was white seamless paper, with red gelled strobes
>flashing at the back of it. There was a key light camera right,
>and a fill camera left.
>
>There is something about this shot that I really like even though
>there was no thought as to posing or anything beyond "is the lighting
>correct" when I took it.
>
>It took a fair bit of processing to bring the color out of the 
>background

>in lightroom.  If I brought the exposure up properly for Sophia, then
>the red totally washed out.
>
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9427045630/in/set-72157634890993590
>
>Comments, as always are welcome.  Particularly for things I could do to
>improve the processing.
>
>ISO 80, f/8, 1/80 second
>
>Exposure +1.65, highlights -51, shadows +40, blacks -11
>adjustment brush exposure -2.49 saturation 60 with fading in
>around her and at the edges.
>
>-- 
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Re: Portfolio of nature shots

[kwaller]

I'll bet you a beer, you'll be the only Pentax pusher. On the mltiple 
workshops I've been on in only one was there another Pentax user out of over 
100 total participants in all the workshops!


Enjoy!

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "Stan Halpin" 

Subject: Re: Portfolio of nature shots




On Aug 2, 2013, at 11:53 PM,   
wrote:


How many do you need to take Stan. In the workshops I've attended it was 
advised to bring 10 images.

My target is 10 images; I can cut these down to 15 pretty easily.


A couple of things jumped out at me upon review of your collection -

*Spring Blossom's is the title but most of the blossoms are out of focus.
I like the softness, the colors of this as is. If I had a version with the 
blossoms more in focus, I might still prefer this. But unfortunately I 
don't have an in-focus version to do the comparison. It won't be in my 
final set unless I need more flora to balance the avian fauna shots.
*# 22 & 33 are almost identical I'd eliminate 33 as the dark mass in the 
upper edge is more distracting than in 22.

Agree, inclusion of 33 was a mistake, it is now gone.

*# 31's subject needs more room to the edges.
Agree, but it is uncropped. A grab shot with a 300mm on the camera, I 
couldn't get any further away without stepping off the dock.


Whose workshop is it and where is it centered?
John and Barbara Gerlach. We'll be working out of a lodge about 20 miles 
south of Munising.


Enjoy the experience and ask questions. I'd also advise having the 
instructor look at several of your compositions thru your camera and have 
him show you what his compositions of the same subject would be.

You're paying him to do these things.

Good suggestion - thanks.


I've learned more about light & compositions during my workshops than any 
other experience.
I have three "issues" on my list: light (including use of flash), 
composition, and when/how/why to use a polarizer.


Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - From: "Stan Halpin" 


Subject: GESO: Portfolio of nature shots


For a nature photography workshop I am taking part in (in Michigan's 
Upper Peninsula starting this Sunday evening), I am supposed to bring 
along some of my recent work. I've put together this "best of" 
collection, still need to narrow it down further. You have seen and 
commented on some of these before. Bob S. - thanks for your continued 
prodding on lightening up the eagle shot and thanks to others for their 
comments on earlier versions of several of these.


http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p350284105

stan



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Re: PESO sunset planespotting

[Larry Colen]

On Sat, Aug 03, 2013 at 09:24:03AM -0700, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> A few of these are very nice indeed, Larry. I particularly like 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9418917251/ and 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9421681002/ of the original set of four 
> you posted. 

Thanks.

> 
> What focal length range were you using? Out towards the 500mm end or a bit 
> shorter? I don't have much in the way of long tele at present, a 180mm is 
> about my longest at present, but I like the look you achieved here. 

If you follow the fluidr link, it lists the focal lengths:
http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157634899968298

The first couple were at 420, and most of the rest of the long
ones were at 500.

> 
> Godfrey
> 
> 
> Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> >>> Sent: August 2, 2013 8/2/13
> >>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> >>> Subject: PESO sunset planespotting
> >>> 
> >>> I finally got around to looking at the plane photos I took the night I
> >>> photographed the burrowing owl. 
> >>> They're a bit rougher than I'd like. I was trying to not blow out the 
> >>> colored lights, so everythng not self illuminated was exposed a bit
> >>> lower down into the noise, even so, I got a few decent shots,
> >>> artistically if not technically:
> >>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9418916483/in/set-72157634899968298
> >>> 
> >>> Photographing airplanes is definitely a speicalized skillset that I 
> >>> haven't fully developed yet.
> >>> 
> >>> If you're curious, the rest of them are at:
> >>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157634899968298/
> >>> or if you want to see the exif data for each shot:
> >>> http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157634899968298
> >>> 
> >>> They were all shot on with the Bigma on the K-5 II, at 3200-5000
> 
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Re: PAW

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Nice colors, but his grin makes the image.

Dan Matyola
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On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Christine Aguila  wrote:
> Hi Everyone:
>
> Just got back from a conference in Portland, Oregon.  Snuck in some 
> photography, but nothing great, though did catch this food truck vendor, 
> which is probably the strongest of the small bunch.
>
>  If you want to see a pretty standard shot of the famous Multnomah Falls, 
> click next in the gallery.  Had dinner at the lodge--very good food and 
> pretty atmosphere.  If you're in the area, highly recommend it.
>
> Cheers, Christine
>
>
> http://www.caguila.com/paw2013/content/_IGP6615_large.html
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Re: Few PESOs and new gear report

[Daniel J. Matyola]

I love the little photographer.

Dan Matyola
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On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 2:16 PM, Boris Liberman  wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I admit that having Flickr integrated into LightRoom makes me lazy, and so
> my blog does not get the attention it deserves. Playing a catch up game
> here:
>
> Etude:
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2013/08/2013-34-etude.html
>
> Eye contact:
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2013/08/2013-35-eye-contact.html
>
> Additionally, I'm slowly making my way into Leica M-mount lenses. Just a few
> days ago Voigtlander Heliar 15/4.5 arrived and here is a brief blog post
> about it:
>
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2013/08/voigtlander-super-wide-heliar-15mm-f45.html
>
> Wonderful lens, this little Heliar is...
>
> As usual, please brutally and honestly comment and critique my photographs
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Re: PESO, while setting up the lights

[Larry Colen]

On Sat, Aug 03, 2013 at 09:14:31PM -0400, Gerrit Visser wrote:
> I prefer the original 'crop'. It somehow seems to reflect/support the
> feeling you get from her expression. An emptyness or loneliness or
> reflection on something intense?

Thank you.  That was exactly my goal with the original composition.


> 
> Gerrit
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Larry Colen
> Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2013 9:01 PM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: PESO, while setting up the lights
> 
> On Sat, Aug 03, 2013 at 04:08:48PM -0400, Kenneth Waller wrote:
> > 
> > It is so obviously a portrait, I don't understand why it was shot in
> landscape mode. The blank space on the RHSide is distracting.
> 
> Actually it was shot to check the exposure, primarily of the background.  
> I cropped it that way because I happen to like portraits with a lot of
> negative space, and to cut out the backdrop stands and other detritus that
> was in the original shot.
> 
> But, I was willing to try a more conventional crop, do you like this one
> better?
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9430436915/in/set-72157634890993590/
> 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > >From: Larry Colen  > >Subject: PESO, while setting up the lights
> > >
> > >One of my favorite photos from the shoot a few nights ago came while 
> > >I was just setting up the lights and setting the exposure.  Sophia 
> > >was just sitting on her stool, biding her time while I futzed with 
> > >the camera and took test shots to set the exposure.
> > >The backdrop was white seamless paper, with red gelled strobes 
> > >flashing at the back of it. There was a key light camera right, and a 
> > >fill camera left.
> > >
> > >There is something about this shot that I really like even though 
> > >there was no thought as to posing or anything beyond "is the lighting 
> > >correct" when I took it.
> > >
> > >It took a fair bit of processing to bring the color out of the 
> > >background in lightroom.  If I brought the exposure up properly for 
> > >Sophia, then the red totally washed out.
> > >
> > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9427045630/in/set-7215763489099
> > >3590
> > >
> > >Comments, as always are welcome.  Particularly for things I could do 
> > >to improve the processing.
> > >
> > >ISO 80, f/8, 1/80 second
> > >
> > >Exposure +1.65, highlights -51, shadows +40, blacks -11 adjustment 
> > >brush exposure -2.49 saturation 60 with fading in around her and at 
> > >the edges.
> > >
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Re: PESO 2013 - 072, 073, 074 - GDG

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Nicely captured.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 7:55 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> A trio of quickie still life photos from around the condo. Yeah, I'm always 
> into details...
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/9430095373/lightbox
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/9430092069/lightbox
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/9430095477/lightbox
>
> Enjoy!
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Re: PESO 2013 - 072, 073, 074 - GDG

[Paul Stenquist]

Nice work. I think the fact that they're color, yet virtually mono, makes them 
more interesting.

Paul via phone

On Aug 3, 2013, at 8:55 PM, Darren Addy  wrote:

> I like them all, but believe I would like them even better as B&W.
> There is little color content that matters in each of them anyway, so
> why not do versions with a little monochrome rendering, play with some
> film grain, etc.?
> 
> On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 6:55 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  
> wrote:
>> A trio of quickie still life photos from around the condo. Yeah, I'm always 
>> into details...
>> 
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/9430095373/lightbox
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/9430092069/lightbox
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/9430095477/lightbox
>> 
>> Enjoy!
>> 
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RE: PESO, while setting up the lights

[Gerrit Visser]

I prefer the original 'crop'. It somehow seems to reflect/support the
feeling you get from her expression. An emptyness or loneliness or
reflection on something intense?

Gerrit

-Original Message-
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Larry Colen
Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2013 9:01 PM
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Subject: Re: PESO, while setting up the lights

On Sat, Aug 03, 2013 at 04:08:48PM -0400, Kenneth Waller wrote:
> 
> It is so obviously a portrait, I don't understand why it was shot in
landscape mode. The blank space on the RHSide is distracting.

Actually it was shot to check the exposure, primarily of the background.  
I cropped it that way because I happen to like portraits with a lot of
negative space, and to cut out the backdrop stands and other detritus that
was in the original shot.

But, I was willing to try a more conventional crop, do you like this one
better?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9430436915/in/set-72157634890993590/

> 
> -Original Message-
> >From: Larry Colen  >Subject: PESO, while setting up the lights
> >
> >One of my favorite photos from the shoot a few nights ago came while 
> >I was just setting up the lights and setting the exposure.  Sophia 
> >was just sitting on her stool, biding her time while I futzed with 
> >the camera and took test shots to set the exposure.
> >The backdrop was white seamless paper, with red gelled strobes 
> >flashing at the back of it. There was a key light camera right, and a 
> >fill camera left.
> >
> >There is something about this shot that I really like even though 
> >there was no thought as to posing or anything beyond "is the lighting 
> >correct" when I took it.
> >
> >It took a fair bit of processing to bring the color out of the 
> >background in lightroom.  If I brought the exposure up properly for 
> >Sophia, then the red totally washed out.
> >
> >http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9427045630/in/set-7215763489099
> >3590
> >
> >Comments, as always are welcome.  Particularly for things I could do 
> >to improve the processing.
> >
> >ISO 80, f/8, 1/80 second
> >
> >Exposure +1.65, highlights -51, shadows +40, blacks -11 adjustment 
> >brush exposure -2.49 saturation 60 with fading in around her and at 
> >the edges.
> >
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Re: PESO, while setting up the lights

[Larry Colen]

On Sat, Aug 03, 2013 at 04:08:48PM -0400, Kenneth Waller wrote:
> 
> It is so obviously a portrait, I don't understand why it was shot in 
> landscape mode. The blank space on the RHSide is distracting.

Actually it was shot to check the exposure, primarily of the background.  
I cropped it that way because I happen to like portraits with a lot of 
negative space, and to cut out the backdrop stands and other detritus 
that was in the original shot.

But, I was willing to try a more conventional crop, do you like this one
better?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9430436915/in/set-72157634890993590/

> 
> -Original Message-
> >From: Larry Colen  >Subject: PESO, while setting up the lights
> >
> >One of my favorite photos from the shoot a few nights ago came while I
> >was just setting up the lights and setting the exposure.  Sophia was
> >just sitting on her stool, biding her time while I futzed with the 
> >camera and took test shots to set the exposure. 
> >The backdrop was white seamless paper, with red gelled strobes 
> >flashing at the back of it. There was a key light camera right, 
> >and a fill camera left.
> >
> >There is something about this shot that I really like even though
> >there was no thought as to posing or anything beyond "is the lighting 
> >correct" when I took it.  
> >
> >It took a fair bit of processing to bring the color out of the background
> >in lightroom.  If I brought the exposure up properly for Sophia, then
> >the red totally washed out.  
> >
> >http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9427045630/in/set-72157634890993590
> >
> >Comments, as always are welcome.  Particularly for things I could do to
> >improve the processing.
> >
> >ISO 80, f/8, 1/80 second
> >
> >Exposure +1.65, highlights -51, shadows +40, blacks -11
> >adjustment brush exposure -2.49 saturation 60 with fading in
> >around her and at the edges.
> >
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Re: PESO 2013 - 072, 073, 074 - GDG

[Darren Addy]

I like them all, but believe I would like them even better as B&W.
There is little color content that matters in each of them anyway, so
why not do versions with a little monochrome rendering, play with some
film grain, etc.?

On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 6:55 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> A trio of quickie still life photos from around the condo. Yeah, I'm always 
> into details...
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/9430095373/lightbox
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/9430092069/lightbox
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/9430095477/lightbox
>
> Enjoy!
>
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PESO 2013 - 072, 073, 074 - GDG

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

A trio of quickie still life photos from around the condo. Yeah, I'm always 
into details... 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/9430095373/lightbox
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/9430092069/lightbox
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/9430095477/lightbox

Enjoy!

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Re: PESO: Foggy Pines (Crater Lake Pines REDO)

[Jack Davis]

Thanks, Brian and all those who looked and commented.

Jack



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Subject: Re: PESO: Foggy Pines (Crater Lake Pines REDO)


Quoting Jack Davis :

>  
>
> The magenta was, obviously, a distraction to some, so  
> have significantly toned it down. 
> Better?
>
> Jack
>
> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=704


To be honest, I still prefer the earlier version but not by much.  
Both versions are excellent.


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Re: Peso - Up, Up and away

[Brian Walters]

Quoting Ann Sanfedele :


http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_mcsJ8s/1/2675444041_rBxT55v/Large

with the 28 - straight out of the can, as it were.

I think I have to leave stuff alone on Smugmug for a while
too many things that are critical right now to deal with



A really unusual perspective.  I like it.



dentist on tuesday :(



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Re: PESO: Foggy Pines (Crater Lake Pines REDO)

[Brian Walters]

Quoting Jack Davis :


 

The magenta was, obviously, a distraction to some, so  
have significantly toned it down. 

Better?

Jack

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=704  



To be honest, I still prefer the earlier version but not by much.   
Both versions are excellent.



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Re: Enablement - Sima 100mm f2.0 Macro! And T-Mount Question

[Mark C]

One of the things about the Sima is that it does not seem to have a 
sweet spot that retains sharpness. But it still is an interesting lens 
and one that I expect to have some fun with.To my eye, some of the shots 
remind me of images I would see in the late 60's early 70's. There is 
something organic about distortions that arise in the optics vs those 
added digitally later and they have a different feel to them.


Mark

On 8/3/2013 9:42 AM, Darren Addy wrote:

Seriously, as most of you probably already know, soft focus does have
its place. The brides would love a series that I would do (back in my
wedding photography days) that was close-ups of the B&G looking into
each other's eyes (shot by doorway or window light with no flash, and
from the perspective of over the shoulder of one and then the other).
Back then we would use a UV filter that had clear nail polish dabbed
around the outside, leaving the very center portion clear. The effect
could vary depending upon the aperture and how much light you had
spilling on the front of the filter.

Soft focus is also good for vain older women's portraiture.

On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Mark C  wrote:

On 8/2/2013 1:57 AM, Bill wrote:


I had a Sima years ago when I was still shooting Nikon. I absolutely
adored the thing for nudes. It was wonderful, even the most pornographic
image was rendered as fine art with the Sima.


Interesting.. I wonder if Bob Gucione had one of these...

Mark


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Re: OT: Perusing Model Mayhem

[Bill]

On 03/08/2013 9:14 AM, Walt wrote:

Finished? Hell, I'm not sure my portfolio is even started! ;)

My biggest difficulty has been deciding which of my images are 
appropriate to the context. The vast majority of my portraiture is 
casual/unposed, environmental stuff -- hardly any of which is geared 
toward accentuating beauty. Unfortunately, some of my best work 
reflects some ugly aspects of humanity.




Toss a girl into an old bathtub, splash some stage blood around the set 
and on her, and take pictures.

You'll fit right in.

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Re: Few PESOs and new gear report

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Nice photos, both of them. That's about as brutal as I can get. "Etude" really 
does seem reminiscent of an open grand piano when I look at the geometry. Love 
the shot of the iPhone picture taker too. 

Yes, the Heliar 15 is quite a nice lens. I had one once upon a time that I used 
on the Leica CL ... When I compared it with the Zeiss Hologon 16mm T* for the 
Contax G2, the Zeiss lens was obviously a better performer in many ways, but 
what a pain to use compared to the Voigtländer. AND five times the price. (I 
sold the Contax G2 kit shortly afterwards, never really got used to it; liked 
the CL and a couple of lenses much more. Still have a CL today, which I use 
occasionally.) I keep going back and forth on whether to acquire another Heliar 
15. It's a bit wide for me, really; I think I'll do better with the Ultron 21mm 
f/1.8. 

G

On Aug 3, 2013, at 11:16 AM, Boris Liberman  wrote:

> Hi!
> 
> I admit that having Flickr integrated into LightRoom makes me lazy, and so my 
> blog does not get the attention it deserves. Playing a catch up game here:
> 
> Etude:
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2013/08/2013-34-etude.html
> 
> Eye contact:
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2013/08/2013-35-eye-contact.html
> 
> Additionally, I'm slowly making my way into Leica M-mount lenses. Just a few 
> days ago Voigtlander Heliar 15/4.5 arrived and here is a brief blog post 
> about it:
> 
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2013/08/voigtlander-super-wide-heliar-15mm-f45.html
> 
> Wonderful lens, this little Heliar is...
> 
> As usual, please brutally and honestly comment and critique my photographs 
> :-).
> 
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Re: PESO: Foggy Pines (Crater Lake Pines REDO)

[Ann Sanfedele]

both thumbs up :-)
ann

On 8/3/2013 16:07, Walt Gilbert wrote:

I dig it, Jack. I liked the first one when I saw it, too, but I do
prefer the subtler tint.

-- Walt

On 8/3/2013 8:59 AM, Jack Davis wrote:


The magenta was, obviously, a distraction to some, so have
significantly toned it down.
Better?

Jack

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Re: OT: Perusing Model Mayhem

[Walt Gilbert]

I'm sure it'd be a fun photo shoot, but I'm not sure it'd be a good idea 
to take my camera.


Things can get a little rowdy (though not violent, thankfully) sometimes.

-- Walt

On 8/2/2013 4:34 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

Now that sounds like a fun photo shoot.

Walt Gilbert  wrote:

Oh, I understand that.

But I figure networking with photographers begets networking with
models, and vice-versa. The folks I tend to socialize just aren't the
type who'd be inclined to make a party out of photography. For the most

part, their idea of a party is several pickup trucks backed up to a
bonfire with the tailgates down, a pork shoulder and a bunch of
chickens
on a smoker, multiple coolers full of beer with a few bottles of
whiskey
scattered hither and yon, with the occasional left-handed cigarette
making its way around the periphery.

And the only pictures that avail themselves at such parties feature
out-stretched tongues, bottles held aloft, and ironically struck
bodybuilder poses.

-- Walt

On 8/2/2013 3:33 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

Walt,
I think you're the only photographer at a 'Photo Party'.
It's a model party to have their pictures taken.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Walt Gilbert 

wrote:

On 8/2/2013 2:28 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

There are several boilerplate releases to be found on the web.
Remind me this weekend and I can send you some of the ones I use.
They basically say that I own the photos and have the rights to
use them for any legal commercial purpose.  However, I also have
a section where the model can put any restrictions that she
wants on their use such as not posting them with her name,
not posting them on particular sites (facebook and such)

Thanks, Larry! I appreciate the help.

I'm not sure how much I'll be around the computer over the weekend,

as my

birthday happens to fall on Sunday. So, I may be out and about. But,

as long

as my remaining brain cells cooperate, I'll try to jog your memory

on it.

On the subject of a chaparone, I have had good luck with
portrait parties, where I set things up and photograph
several friends in one session.  Most of the work is in setting
things up, so it is little extra work once things are set up
to run a couple other models in front of the camera.  You also
get some great benefits from people interacting with their friends.

Also, even if one flakes, you still have someone to photograph.

It's also a great way to quickly build up your portfolio, because
you get several new models in a day, rather than just one.


A photo party sounds like a great idea, though I'd probably need to

arrange

it among a different social circle from the one I typically run in.

I've

done precious little (actually zero) networking among area

photographers, so

I just don't  know all that many people who'd be inclined to attend

such an

event. But, if I can get a few model shoots under my belt and start

making a

few mutual acquaintances, I can see that being a great source of

photo

opportunities.

There is a bit of cultural and artistic activity in the lower-town

area of

the city just east of me (Paducah), but it tends to be a bit

insular. If I

can get a foot in that door, I'm sure I'll have all manner of

opportunities.

I hope to be able to  put together a decent collection in the not

too

distant future, and maybe put together a small exhibit at one of the

local

artists' haunts. With any luck, a few good modeling shoots will

bring about

that day a little sooner.

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Re: PESO, while setting up the lights

[Kenneth Waller]

It is so obviously a portrait, I don't understand why it was shot in landscape 
mode. The blank space on the RHSide is distracting.

-Original Message-
>From: Larry Colen Subject: PESO, while setting up the lights
>
>One of my favorite photos from the shoot a few nights ago came while I
>was just setting up the lights and setting the exposure.  Sophia was
>just sitting on her stool, biding her time while I futzed with the 
>camera and took test shots to set the exposure. 
>The backdrop was white seamless paper, with red gelled strobes 
>flashing at the back of it. There was a key light camera right, 
>and a fill camera left.
>
>There is something about this shot that I really like even though
>there was no thought as to posing or anything beyond "is the lighting 
>correct" when I took it.  
>
>It took a fair bit of processing to bring the color out of the background
>in lightroom.  If I brought the exposure up properly for Sophia, then
>the red totally washed out.  
>
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9427045630/in/set-72157634890993590
>
>Comments, as always are welcome.  Particularly for things I could do to
>improve the processing.
>
>ISO 80, f/8, 1/80 second
>
>Exposure +1.65, highlights -51, shadows +40, blacks -11
>adjustment brush exposure -2.49 saturation 60 with fading in
>around her and at the edges.
>
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Re: PESO: Foggy Pines (Crater Lake Pines REDO)

[Walt Gilbert]

I dig it, Jack. I liked the first one when I saw it, too, but I do 
prefer the subtler tint.


-- Walt

On 8/3/2013 8:59 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
  


The magenta was, obviously, a distraction to some, so have significantly toned 
it down.
Better?

Jack

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Re: PESO: Foggy Pines (Crater Lake Pines REDO)

[Bruce Walker]

I love it before, and I'm still happy with it so you may have hit the
sweet spot there. :-)

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>
>
> The magenta was, obviously, a distraction to some, so have significantly 
> toned it down.
> Better?
>
> Jack
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Re: Geso Old Fashioned Threshing Bee

[Bruce Walker]

Real piece of history there, Don, and beautifully shot and rendered.
Enjoyed the set.

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> This summer I have recorded a steam train and now some steam powered
> tractors in action. These were taken with K-5 and I have included a few B&W
> conversions. No horses but a few mules.
>
> Comments & Critique welcomed.
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Re: Few PESOs and new gear report

[Bob Sullivan]

Boris,
Like the images.  Don't tell me that's Anat in the 2nd one.
The shots with the Voightlander Heliar 15/4.5 look very good,
but no Pentax mount. :-(
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Boris Liberman  wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I admit that having Flickr integrated into LightRoom makes me lazy, and so
> my blog does not get the attention it deserves. Playing a catch up game
> here:
>
> Etude:
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2013/08/2013-34-etude.html
>
> Eye contact:
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2013/08/2013-35-eye-contact.html
>
> Additionally, I'm slowly making my way into Leica M-mount lenses. Just a few
> days ago Voigtlander Heliar 15/4.5 arrived and here is a brief blog post
> about it:
>
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2013/08/voigtlander-super-wide-heliar-15mm-f45.html
>
> Wonderful lens, this little Heliar is...
>
> As usual, please brutally and honestly comment and critique my photographs
> :-).
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OT - Positive Customer Service

[Paul Sorenson]

In March 2005 I bought a Sigma EF 500DG Super to use with my *istDS and 
DS2.  Worked OK but with the next Pentax generation it was good only for 
manual use since it didn't match P-TTL.  At the time Sigma offered a 
free upgrade, but I used it as a good excuse to bring an AF540 into the 
house, followed more recently by a Metz 58.


Fast forward to July 2013 and I'm looking at the Sigma and thinking it 
might be worth the $10 postage to send it in a see if it's upgradeable 
for the K-5 and, if so, how much Sigma would charge for said upgrade. 
So...off it went to Sigma in NY on July 20.  Ten days later UPS is at 
the door with a package from Sigma - with my upgraded 500DG - no charge.


Always nice to have an extra backup.

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Re: Geso Old Fashioned Threshing Bee

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On Aug 2, 2013, at 5:33 PM, Don Guthrie  wrote:

> This summer I have recorded a steam train and now some steam powered tractors 
> in action. These were taken with K-5 and I have included a few B&W 
> conversions. No horses but a few mules.
> 
> Comments & Critique welcomed.
> 
> http://donspix.smugmug.com/Landscapes/Rural-Iowa/The-Threshing-Bee/30917552_q5xcdK

Lovely collection, Don. My childhood doesn't go quite that far back, but close. 
Simpler, more satisfying times. I love the wide-open sky. Don't experience it 
here in "the city built in a forest."

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 you learn something no one has learned before." 

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Few PESOs and new gear report

[Boris Liberman]

Hi!

I admit that having Flickr integrated into LightRoom makes me lazy, and 
so my blog does not get the attention it deserves. Playing a catch up 
game here:


Etude:
http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2013/08/2013-34-etude.html

Eye contact:
http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2013/08/2013-35-eye-contact.html

Additionally, I'm slowly making my way into Leica M-mount lenses. Just a 
few days ago Voigtlander Heliar 15/4.5 arrived and here is a brief blog 
post about it:


http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2013/08/voigtlander-super-wide-heliar-15mm-f45.html

Wonderful lens, this little Heliar is...

As usual, please brutally and honestly comment and critique my 
photographs :-).


Boris

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Re: PESO - Couriers Go to College

[David J Brooks]

Super shot

Dave

On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 11:26 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
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> Another one from last weekend's Alleycat. It was held at King's College, 
> University of Toronto and this scene caught my eye:
>
>  http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/07/couriers-go-to-college.html?m=1
>
> Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.
>
> Cheers,
> frank
>
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Re: Peso - Up, Up and away

[David J Brooks]

Nice colour and geometry to this one

Dave

On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
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>
> http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_mcsJ8s/1/2675444041_rBxT55v/Large
>
> with the 28 - straight out of the can, as it were.
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> I think I have to leave stuff alone on Smugmug for a while
> too many things that are critical right now to deal with
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> dentist on tuesday :(
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Peso - Up, Up and away

[Ann Sanfedele]

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_mcsJ8s/1/2675444041_rBxT55v/Large

with the 28 - straight out of the can, as it were.

I think I have to leave stuff alone on Smugmug for a while
too many things that are critical right now to deal with

dentist on tuesday :(

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Re: PAW

[Ann Sanfedele]

wondered where you were :-)

cute shot - that town has lots of interesting little places like that to
find munchibles...

been there a couple of times - friends live there.

ann

On 8/3/2013 10:25, Christine Aguila wrote:

Hi Everyone:

Just got back from a conference in Portland, Oregon.  Snuck in some 
photography, but nothing great, though did catch this food truck vendor, which 
is probably the strongest of the small bunch.

  If you want to see a pretty standard shot of the famous Multnomah Falls, 
click next in the gallery.  Had dinner at the lodge--very good food and pretty 
atmosphere.  If you're in the area, highly recommend it.

Cheers, Christine


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Re: Here's a Pentax item I've never seen before

[Collin Brendemuehl]

I had no idea of Penta v Pentax.


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Re: Here's a Pentax item I've never seen before

[Darren Addy]

As I'm sure you know (or figured out) it is Volvo Penta and his spell
checker probably changed it to Pentax. Meaning there is a high
likelikhood that the poster is (or was) a Pentax afficianado. I'd
contact him and ask if he has anything gathering dust.
: )



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Re: OT: Pale Blue Dot

[Larry Colen]

On Sat, Aug 03, 2013 at 09:12:26AM -0400, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> http://xkcd.com/1246/

Make sure you read the mouseover.

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Re: PESO sunset planespotting

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

A few of these are very nice indeed, Larry. I particularly like 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9418917251/ and 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9421681002/ of the original set of four 
you posted. 

What focal length range were you using? Out towards the 500mm end or a bit 
shorter? I don't have much in the way of long tele at present, a 180mm is about 
my longest at present, but I like the look you achieved here. 

Godfrey


Larry Colen  wrote:

>>> Sent: August 2, 2013 8/2/13
>>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>>> Subject: PESO sunset planespotting
>>> 
>>> I finally got around to looking at the plane photos I took the night I
>>> photographed the burrowing owl. 
>>> They're a bit rougher than I'd like. I was trying to not blow out the 
>>> colored lights, so everythng not self illuminated was exposed a bit
>>> lower down into the noise, even so, I got a few decent shots,
>>> artistically if not technically:
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9418916483/in/set-72157634899968298
>>> 
>>> Photographing airplanes is definitely a speicalized skillset that I 
>>> haven't fully developed yet.
>>> 
>>> If you're curious, the rest of them are at:
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157634899968298/
>>> or if you want to see the exif data for each shot:
>>> http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157634899968298
>>> 
>>> They were all shot on with the Bigma on the K-5 II, at 3200-5000


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Re: PESO sunset planespotting

[Larry Colen]

On Sat, Aug 03, 2013 at 09:03:10AM -0400, Paul Stenquist wrote:
> Excellent set. 

Thanks Paul.

> 
> Paul
> On Aug 3, 2013, at 12:18 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> > 9497 and 9534 are my favourites from a very strong 
> > set.
> > 
> > Surprised cops didn't arrest you, though. Taking pictures in the dark at 
> > the end of a runway? Clearly terrorist activity!
> > 
> > ;-)
> > 
> > cheers,
> > frank
> > 
> > --- Original Message ---
> > 
> > From: Larry Colen 
> > Sent: August 2, 2013 8/2/13
> > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> > Subject: PESO sunset planespotting
> > 
> > I finally got around to looking at the plane photos I took the night I
> > photographed the burrowing owl. 
> > They're a bit rougher than I'd like. I was trying to not blow out the 
> > colored lights, so everythng not self illuminated was exposed a bit
> > lower down into the noise, even so, I got a few decent shots,
> > artistically if not technically:
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9418916483/in/set-72157634899968298
> > 
> > Photographing airplanes is definitely a speicalized skillset that I 
> > haven't fully developed yet.
> > 
> > If you're curious, the rest of them are at:
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157634899968298/
> > or if you want to see the exif data for each shot:
> > http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157634899968298
> > 
> > They were all shot on with the Bigma on the K-5 II, at 3200-5000
> > 
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Re: Test

[Jeffery Johnson]

LOL Thanks yeah some how or the other my settings changed and it was 
sending mail out through google and not through att so that is why it 
wasn't getting to the list.


On 8/3/2013 10:59 AM, Kenneth Waller wrote:

You pass. I got it!

-Original Message-

From: Norman Baugher 
Subject: Re: Test

Not getting your message at all…
Norm

On Aug 2, 2013, at 1:04 PM, Jeffery Johnson  
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Having issues sending out so checkin to see if it finally workin on the list.
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Re: Test

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You pass. I got it!

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Re: OT: Perusing Model Mayhem

[Walt]

Finished? Hell, I'm not sure my portfolio is even started! ;)

My biggest difficulty has been deciding which of my images are 
appropriate to the context. The vast majority of my portraiture is 
casual/unposed, environmental stuff -- hardly any of which is geared 
toward accentuating beauty. Unfortunately, some of my best work reflects 
some ugly aspects of humanity.


-- Walt


On 8/3/2013 9:59 AM, John wrote:

Your portfolio is never finished. It shows what you think best
represents your work TO DATE.

Start thinking now about which ones you're going to replace when you do
something better.


On 8/3/2013 10:32 AM, Walt Gilbert wrote:

Just spotted the email, Bruce. Many thanks!

I had a tough time finding photos that I thought were reasonably
representative of my best work and germane to doing model shoots.
Hopefully, the ones I chose will create a decent impression.

Thanks again for the tip sheet. I do appreciate it!

-- Walt

On 8/3/2013 8:05 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Walt my friend, watch your email for that makeup tip-sheet.

Believe me, experienced models will be able to tell your level
based on your portfolio. You'll have the "Some Experience" checkbox
ticked in the profile too. You don't need to elaborate about the
clockwork stuff. That's why you're there on Mayhem anyway -- to
improve on your technique.


On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Walt  wrote:

Thanks, Bruce.

You wouldn't happen to have a copy of that makeup tip-sheet I
could mooch from you, would you?

One thing I'm a little iffy on is how much to stress the fact
that I'm fairly new to this and looking to gain experience. I
figure the images I post in my profile should allay some
concerns, but I don't want to leave the impression that I'm an
old hand who runs a shoot like clockwork when I'm not. I still
fidget and experiment quite a bit when I'm shooting, and I don't
want to have to deal with a lot of eye-rolling sighs from someone
who expected to be working with an experienced studio
photographer.

Thanks for the tips. I'll be sure to look you up as soon as I get
in the mix over there.

-- Walt


On 8/2/2013 9:24 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Bill pretty much said it all, and I agree with him. I'll add a
few words.

Re approaching models. I often read advice to meet models
beforehand but I've yet to do that. When I initially approach a
model I have a complete shoot design, we discuss that and
arrange a time and location and then we meet there. Always
bring food/snacks and drink for the model(s), MUA, hair
stylist.

As Bill said, leave the makeup to the professionals. If it's a
small shoot, just you and the model, give the model
instructions on her own makeup. I have a sheet I scanned from a
book that I send them if they are without clue. It suggests
stuff like more makeup than they'd normally wear, use
foundation, blend well, and avoid sunscreen based products.

As for finding models on MM, you can either do targeted
searches and contact models directly through their profiles, or
post a casting call. I've used both and some combination will
get you useful responses.

Ruthlessly edit your profile pics. Only put up your best work,
keep it current, and don't pad it with near-misses and maybes.
A few great shots is way better than 15 so-so's. Potential
models will judge you based on what they see there.

Look me up when you're installed, Walt. MM# 1440574.


On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 10:29 PM, Walt 
wrote:

I decided to go ahead and sign up for an account (currently
awaiting approval) over there to see if I might be able to
find a local model or two to pose for me. As it happens,
there seems to be quite a few lovely ladies looking for
photographers to pose for in order to build up portfolios.

Then, after reviewing a few models, I decided to see what
kind of photographers I'd be competing with. Not that there
aren't any good ones to be found; there is some real talent
in the area. But, on the whole, the experience left me
feeling much, much better about my own work.

So, once I get my account approved by the gatekeepers, I
think I'll start contacting potential models to see who might
be willing to pose in exchange for pictures.

Any suggestions on how to approach potential models? I figure
it would be best to arrange to meet them in person in a
public place before the shoot to discuss any ideas they may
have and what they're looking for.

Also, are there any basic cosmetics or other beauty supplies
I ought to keep on hand just in case?

-- Walt





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Re: PESO: Foggy Pines

[Jack Davis]

Thanks, John!

Jack



From: John 
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Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2013 7:54 AM
Subject: Re: PESO: Foggy Pines


When you create the link try pasting it into a plain text document. Then
cut & paste the link from the plain text document into the email. That
should let you cut off that trailing underline.

OTOH, I didn't have any problems with the previous link that supposedly
had the trailing underline.


On 8/3/2013 10:09 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
> Same problem as before. The link underline extends beyond the last
> character. Does not show until "sent" Thus it can't be displayed.
> FRUSTRATING!! My web geek had a theory awhile back, but no real
> answer. Anyone?
>
> Trying it again!
>
> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=704
>
> Jack
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Re: OT: Perusing Model Mayhem

[John]

Your portfolio is never finished. It shows what you think best
represents your work TO DATE.

Start thinking now about which ones you're going to replace when you do
something better.


On 8/3/2013 10:32 AM, Walt Gilbert wrote:

Just spotted the email, Bruce. Many thanks!

I had a tough time finding photos that I thought were reasonably
representative of my best work and germane to doing model shoots.
Hopefully, the ones I chose will create a decent impression.

Thanks again for the tip sheet. I do appreciate it!

-- Walt

On 8/3/2013 8:05 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Walt my friend, watch your email for that makeup tip-sheet.

Believe me, experienced models will be able to tell your level
based on your portfolio. You'll have the "Some Experience" checkbox
ticked in the profile too. You don't need to elaborate about the
clockwork stuff. That's why you're there on Mayhem anyway -- to
improve on your technique.


On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Walt  wrote:

Thanks, Bruce.

You wouldn't happen to have a copy of that makeup tip-sheet I
could mooch from you, would you?

One thing I'm a little iffy on is how much to stress the fact
that I'm fairly new to this and looking to gain experience. I
figure the images I post in my profile should allay some
concerns, but I don't want to leave the impression that I'm an
old hand who runs a shoot like clockwork when I'm not. I still
fidget and experiment quite a bit when I'm shooting, and I don't
want to have to deal with a lot of eye-rolling sighs from someone
who expected to be working with an experienced studio
photographer.

Thanks for the tips. I'll be sure to look you up as soon as I get
in the mix over there.

-- Walt


On 8/2/2013 9:24 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Bill pretty much said it all, and I agree with him. I'll add a
few words.

Re approaching models. I often read advice to meet models
beforehand but I've yet to do that. When I initially approach a
model I have a complete shoot design, we discuss that and
arrange a time and location and then we meet there. Always
bring food/snacks and drink for the model(s), MUA, hair
stylist.

As Bill said, leave the makeup to the professionals. If it's a
small shoot, just you and the model, give the model
instructions on her own makeup. I have a sheet I scanned from a
book that I send them if they are without clue. It suggests
stuff like more makeup than they'd normally wear, use
foundation, blend well, and avoid sunscreen based products.

As for finding models on MM, you can either do targeted
searches and contact models directly through their profiles, or
post a casting call. I've used both and some combination will
get you useful responses.

Ruthlessly edit your profile pics. Only put up your best work,
keep it current, and don't pad it with near-misses and maybes.
A few great shots is way better than 15 so-so's. Potential
models will judge you based on what they see there.

Look me up when you're installed, Walt. MM# 1440574.


On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 10:29 PM, Walt 
wrote:

I decided to go ahead and sign up for an account (currently
awaiting approval) over there to see if I might be able to
find a local model or two to pose for me. As it happens,
there seems to be quite a few lovely ladies looking for
photographers to pose for in order to build up portfolios.

Then, after reviewing a few models, I decided to see what
kind of photographers I'd be competing with. Not that there
aren't any good ones to be found; there is some real talent
in the area. But, on the whole, the experience left me
feeling much, much better about my own work.

So, once I get my account approved by the gatekeepers, I
think I'll start contacting potential models to see who might
be willing to pose in exchange for pictures.

Any suggestions on how to approach potential models? I figure
it would be best to arrange to meet them in person in a
public place before the shoot to discuss any ideas they may
have and what they're looking for.

Also, are there any basic cosmetics or other beauty supplies
I ought to keep on hand just in case?

-- Walt


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Re: PESO: Foggy Pines

[John]

When you create the link try pasting it into a plain text document. Then
cut & paste the link from the plain text document into the email. That
should let you cut off that trailing underline.

OTOH, I didn't have any problems with the previous link that supposedly
had the trailing underline.


On 8/3/2013 10:09 AM, Jack Davis wrote:

Same problem as before. The link underline extends beyond the last
character. Does not show until "sent" Thus it can't be displayed.
FRUSTRATING!! My web geek had a theory awhile back, but no real
answer. Anyone?

Trying it again!

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=704

Jack



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Re: OT: Perusing Model Mayhem

[Walt Gilbert]

Just spotted the email, Bruce. Many thanks!

I had a tough time finding photos that I thought were reasonably 
representative of my best work and germane to doing model shoots. 
Hopefully, the ones I chose will create a decent impression.


Thanks again for the tip sheet. I do appreciate it!

-- Walt

On 8/3/2013 8:05 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Walt my friend, watch your email for that makeup tip-sheet.

Believe me, experienced models will be able to tell your level based
on your portfolio. You'll have the "Some Experience" checkbox ticked
in the profile too. You don't need to elaborate about the clockwork
stuff. That's why you're there on Mayhem anyway -- to improve on your
technique.


On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Walt  wrote:

Thanks, Bruce.

You wouldn't happen to have a copy of that makeup tip-sheet I could mooch
from you, would you?

One thing I'm a little iffy on is how much to stress the fact that I'm
fairly new to this and looking to gain experience. I figure the images I
post in my profile should allay some concerns, but I don't want to leave the
impression that I'm an old hand who runs a shoot like clockwork when I'm
not. I still fidget and experiment quite a bit when I'm shooting, and I
don't want to have to deal with a lot of eye-rolling sighs from someone who
expected to be working with an experienced studio photographer.

Thanks for the tips. I'll be sure to look you up as soon as I get in the mix
over there.

-- Walt


On 8/2/2013 9:24 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Bill pretty much said it all, and I agree with him. I'll add a few words.

Re approaching models. I often read advice to meet models beforehand
but I've yet to do that. When I initially approach a model I have a
complete shoot design, we discuss that and arrange a time and location
and then we meet there. Always bring food/snacks and drink for the
model(s), MUA, hair stylist.

As Bill said, leave the makeup to the professionals. If it's a small
shoot, just you and the model, give the model instructions on her own
makeup. I have a sheet I scanned from a book that I send them if they
are without clue. It suggests stuff like more makeup than they'd
normally wear, use foundation, blend well, and avoid sunscreen based
products.

As for finding models on MM, you can either do targeted searches and
contact models directly through their profiles, or post a casting
call. I've used both and some combination will get you useful
responses.

Ruthlessly edit your profile pics. Only put up your best work, keep it
current, and don't pad it with near-misses and maybes. A few great
shots is way better than 15 so-so's. Potential models will judge you
based on what they see there.

Look me up when you're installed, Walt. MM# 1440574.


On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 10:29 PM, Walt  wrote:

I decided to go ahead and sign up for an account (currently awaiting
approval) over there to see if I might be able to find a local model or
two
to pose for me. As it happens, there seems to be quite a few lovely
ladies
looking for photographers to pose for in order to build up portfolios.

Then, after reviewing a few models, I decided to see what kind of
photographers I'd be competing with. Not that there aren't any good ones
to
be found; there is some real talent in the area. But, on the whole, the
experience left me feeling much, much better about my own work.

So, once I get my account approved by the gatekeepers, I think I'll start
contacting potential models to see who might be willing to pose in
exchange
for pictures.

Any suggestions on how to approach potential models? I figure it would be
best to arrange to meet them in person in a public place before the shoot
to
discuss any ideas they may have and what they're looking for.

Also, are there any basic cosmetics or other beauty supplies I ought to
keep
on hand just in case?

-- Walt

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Re: OT: Perusing Model Mayhem

[Walt Gilbert]

http://petapixel.com/2012/12/11/a-collection-of-free-sample-legal-forms-for-photographers/ 



http://www.thephotoargus.com/resources/free-legal-contracts-and-releases-for-photographers/ 



I got the ones I use from this book (CD was missing so I got the book 
for 75% off):


http://www.thephotoargus.com/resources/free-legal-contracts-and-releases-for-photographers/ 



Not a big deal. I learned touch typing in high school & just copied 
them out of the book rather than opening them from the CD-ROM



Thanks so much, John!

Those are a big help and much appreciated.

-- Walt

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PAW

[Christine Aguila]

Hi Everyone:

Just got back from a conference in Portland, Oregon.  Snuck in some 
photography, but nothing great, though did catch this food truck vendor, which 
is probably the strongest of the small bunch.

 If you want to see a pretty standard shot of the famous Multnomah Falls, click 
next in the gallery.  Had dinner at the lodge--very good food and pretty 
atmosphere.  If you're in the area, highly recommend it.

Cheers, Christine


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PESO: Foggy Pines

[Jack Davis]

Same problem as before. The link underline extends beyond the last character. 
Does not show until "sent" Thus it can't be displayed. FRUSTRATING!!
My web geek had a theory awhile back, but no real answer. Anyone?

Trying it again!

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=704

Jack   

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Re: GESO: Portfolio of nature shots

[Christine Aguila]

Totally agree with Darren about this shot.  Wonderful.  Everything just right.  
Cheers, Christine



On Aug 3, 2013, at 12:08 AM, Darren Addy  wrote:

> This one could be a contest winner:
> http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p350284105/h6d8d0c1f#h6d8d0c1f
> The photo's title is on the spotting scope: "For Distant Viewing"
> 
> If you need to trim down I would eliminate all but one of the near
> duplicates (for example you have two eagles sitting in the tree...
> pick one). I would get very fussy and eliminate some of the waterfowl
> shots (I *really* like the two ducks, one with beak open as if talking
> and the weeds/branches in the foreground).
> 
> On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 11:21 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
>  wrote:
>> A most impressive portfolio.
>> 
>> Quite brilliant, actually!
>> 
>> cheers,
>> frank
>> 
>> --- Original Message ---
>> 
>> From: Stan Halpin 
>> Sent: August 2, 2013 8/2/13
>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>> Subject: GESO: Portfolio of nature shots
>> 
>> For a nature photography workshop I am taking part in (in Michigan's Upper 
>> Peninsula starting this Sunday evening), I am supposed to bring along some 
>> of my recent work. I've put together this "best of" collection, still need 
>> to narrow it down further. You have seen and commented on some of these 
>> before. Bob S. - thanks for your continued prodding on lightening up the 
>> eagle shot and thanks to others for their comments on earlier versions of 
>> several of these.
>> 
>> http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p350284105
>> 
>> stan
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Re: PESO: Foggy Pines (Crater Lake Pines REDO)

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Yes, to me it is.
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On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 9:59 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>
>
> The magenta was, obviously, a distraction to some, so have significantly 
> toned it down.
> Better?
>
> Jack
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PESO: Foggy Pines (Crater Lake Pines REDO)

[Jack Davis]

 

The magenta was, obviously, a distraction to some, so have significantly toned 
it down. 
Better?

Jack

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Re: Enablement - Sima 100mm f2.0 Macro! And T-Mount Question

[Darren Addy]

Seriously, as most of you probably already know, soft focus does have
its place. The brides would love a series that I would do (back in my
wedding photography days) that was close-ups of the B&G looking into
each other's eyes (shot by doorway or window light with no flash, and
from the perspective of over the shoulder of one and then the other).
Back then we would use a UV filter that had clear nail polish dabbed
around the outside, leaving the very center portion clear. The effect
could vary depending upon the aperture and how much light you had
spilling on the front of the filter.

Soft focus is also good for vain older women's portraiture.

On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Mark C  wrote:
>
> On 8/2/2013 1:57 AM, Bill wrote:
>>
>>
>> I had a Sima years ago when I was still shooting Nikon. I absolutely
>> adored the thing for nudes. It was wonderful, even the most pornographic
>> image was rendered as fine art with the Sima.
>>
> Interesting.. I wonder if Bob Gucione had one of these...
>
> Mark
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Re: OT: Pale Blue Dot

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

:-)

Godfrey


On Aug 3, 2013, at 6:12 AM, "Daniel J. Matyola"  wrote:

> http://xkcd.com/1246/
> 
> Dan Matyola
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Re: OT: Pale Blue Dot

[Jack Davis]

This is funny, Dan. 6 o'clock in the morning funny.

Jack



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Re: Test

[Norman Baugher]

Not getting your message at all…
Norm

On Aug 2, 2013, at 1:04 PM, Jeffery Johnson  
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> Having issues sending out so checkin to see if it finally workin on the list.
> -- 
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Re: PESO - Couriers Go to College

[Daniel J. Matyola]

That is a great composition.  I love the contrast between the classic
architecture, the floral display and the nicely arranged circle of
bikes.
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On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 11:26 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
 wrote:
> Another one from last weekend's Alleycat. It was held at King's College, 
> University of Toronto and this scene caught my eye:
>
>  http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/07/couriers-go-to-college.html?m=1
>
> Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.
>
> Cheers,
> frank
>
>
> "For me, the camera is a sketch book, an instrument of intuition and 
> spontaneity." -- Henri Cartier-Bresson
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OT: Pale Blue Dot

[Daniel J. Matyola]

http://xkcd.com/1246/

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Re: OT: Perusing Model Mayhem

[Bruce Walker]

Walt my friend, watch your email for that makeup tip-sheet.

Believe me, experienced models will be able to tell your level based
on your portfolio. You'll have the "Some Experience" checkbox ticked
in the profile too. You don't need to elaborate about the clockwork
stuff. That's why you're there on Mayhem anyway -- to improve on your
technique.


On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Walt  wrote:
> Thanks, Bruce.
>
> You wouldn't happen to have a copy of that makeup tip-sheet I could mooch
> from you, would you?
>
> One thing I'm a little iffy on is how much to stress the fact that I'm
> fairly new to this and looking to gain experience. I figure the images I
> post in my profile should allay some concerns, but I don't want to leave the
> impression that I'm an old hand who runs a shoot like clockwork when I'm
> not. I still fidget and experiment quite a bit when I'm shooting, and I
> don't want to have to deal with a lot of eye-rolling sighs from someone who
> expected to be working with an experienced studio photographer.
>
> Thanks for the tips. I'll be sure to look you up as soon as I get in the mix
> over there.
>
> -- Walt
>
>
> On 8/2/2013 9:24 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>>
>> Bill pretty much said it all, and I agree with him. I'll add a few words.
>>
>> Re approaching models. I often read advice to meet models beforehand
>> but I've yet to do that. When I initially approach a model I have a
>> complete shoot design, we discuss that and arrange a time and location
>> and then we meet there. Always bring food/snacks and drink for the
>> model(s), MUA, hair stylist.
>>
>> As Bill said, leave the makeup to the professionals. If it's a small
>> shoot, just you and the model, give the model instructions on her own
>> makeup. I have a sheet I scanned from a book that I send them if they
>> are without clue. It suggests stuff like more makeup than they'd
>> normally wear, use foundation, blend well, and avoid sunscreen based
>> products.
>>
>> As for finding models on MM, you can either do targeted searches and
>> contact models directly through their profiles, or post a casting
>> call. I've used both and some combination will get you useful
>> responses.
>>
>> Ruthlessly edit your profile pics. Only put up your best work, keep it
>> current, and don't pad it with near-misses and maybes. A few great
>> shots is way better than 15 so-so's. Potential models will judge you
>> based on what they see there.
>>
>> Look me up when you're installed, Walt. MM# 1440574.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 10:29 PM, Walt  wrote:
>>>
>>> I decided to go ahead and sign up for an account (currently awaiting
>>> approval) over there to see if I might be able to find a local model or
>>> two
>>> to pose for me. As it happens, there seems to be quite a few lovely
>>> ladies
>>> looking for photographers to pose for in order to build up portfolios.
>>>
>>> Then, after reviewing a few models, I decided to see what kind of
>>> photographers I'd be competing with. Not that there aren't any good ones
>>> to
>>> be found; there is some real talent in the area. But, on the whole, the
>>> experience left me feeling much, much better about my own work.
>>>
>>> So, once I get my account approved by the gatekeepers, I think I'll start
>>> contacting potential models to see who might be willing to pose in
>>> exchange
>>> for pictures.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions on how to approach potential models? I figure it would be
>>> best to arrange to meet them in person in a public place before the shoot
>>> to
>>> discuss any ideas they may have and what they're looking for.
>>>
>>> Also, are there any basic cosmetics or other beauty supplies I ought to
>>> keep
>>> on hand just in case?
>>>
>>> -- Walt
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Re: PESO sunset planespotting

[Paul Stenquist]

Excellent set. 

Paul
On Aug 3, 2013, at 12:18 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

> 9497 and 9534 are my favourites from a very strong 
> set.
> 
> Surprised cops didn't arrest you, though. Taking pictures in the dark at the 
> end of a runway? Clearly terrorist activity!
> 
> ;-)
> 
> cheers,
> frank
> 
> --- Original Message ---
> 
> From: Larry Colen 
> Sent: August 2, 2013 8/2/13
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Subject: PESO sunset planespotting
> 
> I finally got around to looking at the plane photos I took the night I
> photographed the burrowing owl. 
> They're a bit rougher than I'd like. I was trying to not blow out the 
> colored lights, so everythng not self illuminated was exposed a bit
> lower down into the noise, even so, I got a few decent shots,
> artistically if not technically:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9418916483/in/set-72157634899968298
> 
> Photographing airplanes is definitely a speicalized skillset that I 
> haven't fully developed yet.
> 
> If you're curious, the rest of them are at:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157634899968298/
> or if you want to see the exif data for each shot:
> http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157634899968298
> 
> They were all shot on with the Bigma on the K-5 II, at 3200-5000
> 
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Re: GESO: Portfolio of nature shots

[Darren Addy]

Both eagle shots are good, but I personally prefer the one without the
large expanse of white sky (the one with more tree). It doesn't show
as much of the eagle but is a stronger image overall (IMHO).

On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 6:56 AM, Stan Halpin  wrote:
> Thanks again. Noted and fixed.
>
> On Aug 2, 2013, at 11:10 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
>
>> Nice group, Stan...
>>
>> just fyi
>> that "grey Kingbird" is a Phoebe.. :-)
>>
>> I'll look more and pick faves but since you had the question mark there .
>> ann
>>
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Re: GESO: Portfolio of nature shots

[Stan Halpin]

Thanks again. Noted and fixed.

On Aug 2, 2013, at 11:10 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

> Nice group, Stan...
> 
> just fyi
> that "grey Kingbird" is a Phoebe.. :-)
> 
> I'll look more and pick faves but since you had the question mark there .
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Re: GESO: Portfolio of nature shots

[Stan Halpin]

Thanks Bob!

On Aug 2, 2013, at 11:24 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

> Stan,
> Great start for your portfolio.
> And that Eagle fly-over looks fantastic.
> The K-5 has an amazing capture of shadow detail.
> The 3 blue dragon flies on the green plant are still a favorite.
> Lots of the bird/duck close-ups are new to me and special, love the
> mussed feathers.
> Regards,  Bob S.
> 
> On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 10:10 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
>> Nice group, Stan...
>> 
>> just fyi
>> that "grey Kingbird" is a Phoebe.. :-)
>> 
>> I'll look more and pick faves but since you had the question mark there .
>> ann
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 8/2/2013 19:54, Stan Halpin wrote:
>>> 
>>> For a nature photography workshop I am taking part in (in Michigan's Upper
>>> Peninsula starting this Sunday evening), I am supposed to bring along some
>>> of my recent work. I've put together this "best of" collection, still need
>>> to narrow it down further. You have seen and commented on some of these
>>> before. Bob S. - thanks for your continued prodding on lightening up the
>>> eagle shot and thanks to others for their comments on earlier versions of
>>> several of these.
>>> 
>>> http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p350284105
>>> 
>>> stan
>>> 
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Re: GESO: Portfolio of nature shots

[Stan Halpin]

On Aug 3, 2013, at 1:08 AM, Darren Addy wrote:

> This one could be a contest winner:
> http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p350284105/h6d8d0c1f#h6d8d0c1f
> The photo's title is on the spotting scope: "For Distant Viewing"
> 
> If you need to trim down I would eliminate all but one of the near
> duplicates (for example you have two eagles sitting in the tree...
> pick one).
Thanks Darren. On the eagle shots, which do you prefer? My resident editor and 
I disagree on this one - I often trust her judgment but this one I am not sure.

> I would get very fussy and eliminate some of the waterfowl
> shots (I *really* like the two ducks, one with beak open as if talking
> and the weeds/branches in the foreground).
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Re: GESO: Portfolio of nature shots

[Stan Halpin]

Thanks Frank! 

On Aug 3, 2013, at 12:21 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

> A most impressive portfolio. 
> 
> Quite brilliant, actually!
> 
> cheers,
> frank
> 
> --- Original Message ---
> 
> From: Stan Halpin 
> Sent: August 2, 2013 8/2/13
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Subject: GESO: Portfolio of nature shots
> 
> For a nature photography workshop I am taking part in (in Michigan's Upper 
> Peninsula starting this Sunday evening), I am supposed to bring along some of 
> my recent work. I've put together this "best of" collection, still need to 
> narrow it down further. You have seen and commented on some of these before. 
> Bob S. - thanks for your continued prodding on lightening up the eagle shot 
> and thanks to others for their comments on earlier versions of several of 
> these. 
> 
> http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p350284105
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Re: Portfolio of nature shots

[Stan Halpin]

On Aug 2, 2013, at 11:53 PM,   
wrote:

> How many do you need to take Stan. In the workshops I've attended it was 
> advised to bring 10 images.
My target is 10 images; I can cut these down to 15 pretty easily. 
> 
> A couple of things jumped out at me upon review of your collection -
> 
> *Spring Blossom's is the title but most of the blossoms are out of focus.
I like the softness, the colors of this as is. If I had a version with the 
blossoms more in focus, I might still prefer this. But unfortunately I don't 
have an in-focus version to do the comparison. It won't be in my final set 
unless I need more flora to balance the avian fauna shots.
> *# 22 & 33 are almost identical I'd eliminate 33 as the dark mass in the 
> upper edge is more distracting than in 22.
Agree, inclusion of 33 was a mistake, it is now gone.
> *# 31's subject needs more room to the edges.
Agree, but it is uncropped. A grab shot with a 300mm on the camera, I couldn't 
get any further away without stepping off the dock.
> 
> Whose workshop is it and where is it centered?
John and Barbara Gerlach. We'll be working out of a lodge about 20 miles south 
of Munising.
> 
> Enjoy the experience and ask questions. I'd also advise having the instructor 
> look at several of your compositions thru your camera and have him show you 
> what his compositions of the same subject would be.
> You're paying him to do these things.
Good suggestion - thanks.
> 
> I've learned more about light & compositions during my workshops than any 
> other experience.
I have three "issues" on my list: light (including use of flash), composition, 
and when/how/why to use a polarizer.
> 
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Stan Halpin" 
> Subject: GESO: Portfolio of nature shots
> 
> 
>> For a nature photography workshop I am taking part in (in Michigan's Upper 
>> Peninsula starting this Sunday evening), I am supposed to bring along some 
>> of my recent work. I've put together this "best of" collection, still need 
>> to narrow it down further. You have seen and commented on some of these 
>> before. Bob S. - thanks for your continued prodding on lightening up the 
>> eagle shot and thanks to others for their comments on earlier versions of 
>> several of these.
>> 
>> http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p350284105
>> 
>> stan
> 
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Re: PESO sunset planespotting

[Larry Colen]

On Sat, Aug 03, 2013 at 11:39:18AM +0530, Bipin Gupta wrote:
> Larry, you are getting to be an expert on airplane shots. Beautiful
> low light photo on your first link. Saw the rest too on Flickr &
> Fluidr.

Thanks Bipin, that's awfully nice of you to say.  It was seriously
my first attempt at photographing planes since I owned a camera with
a telephoto lens.  

> How do they allow you to enter armed with a Bigma? Lucky you.

I was just outside the fence, I used the GPS on some of the shots,
and just updated the location info on the rest.  If you click 
on the location, it will show a map of how I was in the parking lot
for waiting for people to arrive, just off the end of the 
runway.

The owl in these shots was sitting on the fence at the end of 
the runway.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157634684347823/

> Keep shootin & posting.

Thank you.

> 
> Here is some resource I picked up from a Welsh (UK) low flying
> airplane shooter:-
> Since military fast jets travel at about 400-450 knots (750 to 850
> kmph), camera settings become increasingly important.
> Continuous autofocus is a must for tracking fast-moving targets.
> Reducing the number of active focus points helps increase autofocus
> performance, too.
> Fast shutter speeds in the region of 1/800-1/1600 sec work well, but
> good action shots can be captured in-camera by using much slower
> speeds to blur the background and keep the subject sharp. Try
> something in the range of 1/125-1/500 sec.
> For cockpit-level shots, you’ll need a long lens – consider a 500mm or
> 600mm telephoto. Use wide apertures and high ISOs for action-stopping
> shutter speeds.

According to the map, I was a few hundred meters from the end of the runway.
I was shooting at 500m, until the planes were just landing, then I'd have
to zoom out.


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> Regards.
> Bipin - from that far away enchanting land.
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