Re: Carrying a camera on a long walk
On Aug 8, 2013, at 10:05 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: i would take both; they are small, and having both myself (well, i have the _FA_ 28) i have to say that while i love the 50, it is simply too narrow for some shots, especially when traveling (then again, the 50 has practically no distortion, so you could do hand-held panoramic sets and stitch them later) Thanks, Steve. Experiment with the 50 yesterday convinced me that I at least need to take the 28, maybe just the 28. I'll see when I get a better sense of how well all the stuff for the trip packs up. BWIAI, where do you stitch panoramics? Lightroom? -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net “On the basis of evidence we may be sure that we are wrong but we can never be sure that we are right.” - Richard Feynman -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How often do you back up your hard drive?
I run time machine at least twice a day when writing. I'll also back up the pertinent file four or five times to a third drive as work progresses, and I e-mail it to myself when I take a break. Paul via phone On Aug 8, 2013, at 11:44 PM, John Coyle jco...@iinet.net.au wrote: Same for me, using external HDD's. John Coyle Brisbane, Australia -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts Sent: Friday, 9 August 2013 11:47 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: How often do you back up your hard drive? Well, since I've been working on this massive Photoshop textbook project, the answer for me is At least twice a day! :) -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How often do you back up your hard drive?
Quoting Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com: Well, since I've been working on this massive Photoshop textbook project, the answer for me is At least twice a day! :) Probably not enough. I rarely back up the entire disk but I have a semi-automated backup system for important folders (semi-automated in that I start it manually but it then checks and backs up changed files in the specified folders automatically to an external hard drive). I run this every couple of days - more often if I'm working on a big project. Every month I run the same backup system on a second hard drive which normally resides in my garden shed (on the assumption that if the house burns down, the shed wont - or vice versa. If both burn down at the same time, I'm screwed. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Vintage Garage - Rogers, Nebraska
Quoting Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com: Rogers is a Nebraska village on Hwy 30 (historically known as the Lincoln Highway) and is almost exactly at the midpoint of traveling between the larger Nebraska cities of Columbus and Fremont, Nebraska. According to the 2010 census, there were 95 people living in Rogers. This old timey auto repair shop (also known as a garage) has long captured my attention while driving past, but this is the first time I took the opportunity to stop and photograph it. As luck would have it, after one shot my camera battery died and I didn't have another with me, so I got only one shot. I had some settings wrong, so it came out with the wrong color balance and exposed improperly but I didn't get rid of it. A long time later I tripped across the image and decided to have go at it with the Nik software filters of Color Efex Pro 3 and then Silver Efex Pro. This was my favorite of the various iterations that I made. I may share the others later for a comparison. http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/9452427776/in/photostream/ Very interesting subject with lots of potential for further shooting. Those old doors look especially photogenic. The image does have a slight backwards tilt that could be treated with a bit of perspective correction. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso Audrey II
Quoting David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17488254 Great shot. Nicely composed with good depth of focus. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Soul
Quoting knarftheria...@gmail.com: Is it me or does this guy look like Smokey Robinson? Taken at a local fair on the weekend, this is local RB guy Jarvis Church (ex of the Philosopher Kings): http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/08/soul.html?m=1 Took the wonderfully heavy Vivitar S1 f2.8 35-85mm and in the low light the wide-ish aperture was utilized. Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. I like that. It has a 'gritty' feel to it that suits the subject and the mood perfectly. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Chamber of Internal Dialogue
Quoting Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com: Another sign of the times: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17489395size=lg Comments are invited. So, that's for people who talk to themselves. I agree with Ann, it is a bit creepy - and mildly disturbing... -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Carrying a camera on a long walk
I learned in Alaska to never change lenses when travelling. My K100D had sensor crap for months. I now exclusively use 18-250 on both our cameras for travels. The hassle of cleaning sensors in the evening is not worth it to me. On our recent trip to Indonesia etc we had lots of rain. Our lenses are not WR but a bit of caution in downpours meant that we still got photos, but no water inside. Unless it is actually pouring, I wouldn't agonize to much over WR. Gerrit -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Aahz Maruch Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2013 10:59 PM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Carrying a camera on a long walk On Thu, Aug 08, 2013, steve harley wrote: on 2013-08-08 9:33 Aahz Maruch wrote I did have the 16-50 in my case, but it was drizzling at the start, and partway through the walk I decided to just make it a one-lens exercise. (Sure was glad to have WR lens!) did you mean DA 16-45? DA* 16-50 is sealed, even though it doesn't have WR in the name Absolutely! I used it in a light rain a few days earlier. But the camera is *NOT* sealed while you're changing lenses... (Perhaps I was being a bit overcautious, but I'm not always sure-fingered and this was a rental camera/lens.) Side note: that light rain with the 16-50 taught me another reason why really it's a Good Idea to use a lens hood. Lens spots in those pics are fortunately not t visible (and lend a bit of atmosphere to some). -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6 http://rule6.info/ * * * Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Eastbound
Another railway shot - but with spectacular scenery in Glacier National Park: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP3763-K5-1peso.html A larger version is here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/_IGP3763-K5-1peso-lg.jpg Comments, of course, always welcome. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
August PUG -Sign of the Times - is up
G'day all A smallish gallery this month but some great images. Matthew's 'Frankie Goes to Hollywood' gets the prize (not that there is one) for the most innovative title - good shot too! Other favourites are Steve Sharp's 'You are Beautiful' and Bill Robb's 'The State of Film'. As usual, you'll find the gallery here: http://pug.komkon.org/ (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous Gallery there). Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the gallery, let me know. + Coming up for September is 'Long Exposure'; nominal closing date 31 August. Submit here: http://pug.komkon.org/submit/ Submission Guidelines here: http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html The main requirements are: * Max. pixel dimensions: 800 x 800 pixels * Max file size: 300k * Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body or lens used is Pentax. * If you embed a colour space in the image, it should be sRGB to ensure that the image is displayed correctly on line. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: toning bw images and prints
Interesting article with excellent reasons to tone monochrome images and prints. The second comment provides more background on it and a good reason to print bw using full RGB rather than just a black inkset (more print density). http://jrileystewart.com/blog/2013/07/27/the-psychology-of-a-toned-monochrome-print-or-way-more-than-bw I don't do bw often but I sometimes use some tone when I do. I'm going to pay more attention to that now. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Eastbound
Gorgeous shot, Brian. On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 8:06 AM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: Another railway shot - but with spectacular scenery in Glacier National Park: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP3763-K5-1peso.html A larger version is here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/_IGP3763-K5-1peso-lg.jpg Comments, of course, always welcome. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: August PUG -Sign of the Times - is up
Not so small, I think. Lots of great images and food for thought. My fave is Steven Sharpe's You Are Beautiful. On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 8:07 AM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: G'day all A smallish gallery this month but some great images. Matthew's 'Frankie Goes to Hollywood' gets the prize (not that there is one) for the most innovative title - good shot too! Other favourites are Steve Sharp's 'You are Beautiful' and Bill Robb's 'The State of Film'. As usual, you'll find the gallery here: http://pug.komkon.org/ (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous Gallery there). Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the gallery, let me know. + Coming up for September is 'Long Exposure'; nominal closing date 31 August. Submit here: http://pug.komkon.org/submit/ Submission Guidelines here: http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html The main requirements are: * Max. pixel dimensions: 800 x 800 pixels * Max file size: 300k * Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body or lens used is Pentax. * If you embed a colour space in the image, it should be sRGB to ensure that the image is displayed correctly on line. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Eastbound
Wonderful! You have really captured the beauty of one of our most spectacular parks Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 8:06 AM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: Another railway shot - but with spectacular scenery in Glacier National Park: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP3763-K5-1peso.html A larger version is here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/_IGP3763-K5-1peso-lg.jpg Comments, of course, always welcome. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - The Chess Player
Nice. I love the concentration on his face. I am a bit distracted, however, by the right side of the image. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 1:31 AM, Marco Alpert ma...@alpert.com wrote: http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo13/peso12.html Comments, as always, welcomed. -Marco --- http://www.alpert.com/marco -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Chamber of Internal Dialogue
Thanks, Brian. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 7:24 AM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: Quoting Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com: Another sign of the times: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17489395size=lg Comments are invited. So, that's for people who talk to themselves. I agree with Ann, it is a bit creepy - and mildly disturbing... -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Peso Swans at two
months that is: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17489873 Parents are down to just 2 babys, i guess the coyotes or what not got the other 3 Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso Swans at two
Lovely image of ugly ducklings. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 9:31 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: months that is: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17489873 Parents are down to just 2 babys, i guess the coyotes or what not got the other 3 Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: August PUG -Sign of the Times - is up
On 8/9/2013 08:07, Brian Walters wrote: G'day all A smallish gallery this month but some great images. Matthew's 'Frankie Goes to Hollywood' gets the prize (not that there is one) for the most innovative title - good shot too! Gets my vote too - lot of history there.. Didn't need a cute title powerful shot (especially if you have been to Johnstown, PA - otoh, that photo is enough to ward you away.) ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Eastbound
Majestic image and an old railroader's delight. Outstanding work Brian! Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 7:06 AM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: Another railway shot - but with spectacular scenery in Glacier National Park: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP3763-K5-1peso.html A larger version is here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/_IGP3763-K5-1peso-lg.jpg Comments, of course, always welcome. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Carrying a camera on a long walk
Stitching panoramas is one of my last real uses for PS CSx. Godfrey On Aug 9, 2013, at 12:46 AM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: BWIAI, where do you stitch panoramics? Lightroom? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Eastbound
Very nice, Brian! Pano frame was a great idea. Jack - Original Message - From: Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Friday, August 9, 2013 5:06 AM Subject: PESO - Eastbound Another railway shot - but with spectacular scenery in Glacier National Park: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP3763-K5-1peso.html A larger version is here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/_IGP3763-K5-1peso-lg.jpg Comments, of course, always welcome. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: August PUG -Sign of the Times - is up
Fine shots, interesting interpretations. Photographer's licence? I like The house that once was. Still seems to have CCTV surveillance! Alan C -Original Message- From: Brian Walters Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 2:07 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: August PUG -Sign of the Times - is up G'day all A smallish gallery this month but some great images. Matthew's 'Frankie Goes to Hollywood' gets the prize (not that there is one) for the most innovative title - good shot too! Other favourites are Steve Sharp's 'You are Beautiful' and Bill Robb's 'The State of Film'. As usual, you'll find the gallery here: http://pug.komkon.org/ (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous Gallery there). Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the gallery, let me know. + Coming up for September is 'Long Exposure'; nominal closing date 31 August. Submit here: http://pug.komkon.org/submit/ Submission Guidelines here: http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html The main requirements are: * Max. pixel dimensions: 800 x 800 pixels * Max file size: 300k * Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body or lens used is Pentax. * If you embed a colour space in the image, it should be sRGB to ensure that the image is displayed correctly on line. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: toning bw images and prints
Thanks for the link, Bruce! The aesthetics side of it is interesting. I also find it interesting that in the early days of photography the color/tone was largely determined by the process. Cyanotypes were blue, but then they could be toned (although often with adverse affects on their archival qualities). Other processes were various shades of brown. There were always some who looked for ways to change the tone after the print was made with various methods from chemicals to teas. Looking through an old Kodak formulas guide, I was surprised to learn of Kodak T-9, a Uranium Toner. http://www.jackspcs.com/toner.htm I would imagine that this was one justification for Kodak operating a nuclear reactor in Rochester (unknown to the general population) for many decades. http://www.democratandchronicle.com/article/20120511/NEWS01/305120021/Kodak-Park-nuclear-reactor Color printing of when inkjet printing digital BW negatives on transparency material (for contact printing) - although for different reasons. Rather than making the negative with black/grey one prints it as orange, since the orange does a better job of blocking UV rays than even black/grey does. I've seen CMKY values of 0,71,71,0 suggested (for example). It varies a bit depending on your printer and inks used. On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 7:56 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting article with excellent reasons to tone monochrome images and prints. The second comment provides more background on it and a good reason to print bw using full RGB rather than just a black inkset (more print density). http://jrileystewart.com/blog/2013/07/27/the-psychology-of-a-toned-monochrome-print-or-way-more-than-bw I don't do bw often but I sometimes use some tone when I do. I'm going to pay more attention to that now. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art - Peter Galassi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Peso A view from the flatlands
This is what the world looks like in the Summer out on the flatlands. K-5 Sigma 10-20 CC welcomed. http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/9473673468/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso A view from the flatlands
That certainly is flat (the land, not the image, which is quite vibrant) Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote: This is what the world looks like in the Summer out on the flatlands. K-5 Sigma 10-20 CC welcomed. http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/9473673468/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso A view from the flatlands
That's a beautiful vista, Don. I see curves though -- not so flat. :-) And I see sensor dust: bottom-right edge of cloud in upper left corner. Skies are bad for that. ;-) On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote: This is what the world looks like in the Summer out on the flatlands. K-5 Sigma 10-20 CC welcomed. http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/9473673468/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso A view from the flatlands
Excellent image, but I hate it when Flicker starts panning for me. Too much Ken Burns! Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote: This is what the world looks like in the Summer out on the flatlands. K-5 Sigma 10-20 CC welcomed. http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/9473673468/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Eastbound
Stunning! - Marco On Aug 9, 2013, at 5:06 AM, Brian Walters wrote: Another railway shot - but with spectacular scenery in Glacier National Park: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP3763-K5-1peso.html A larger version is here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/_IGP3763-K5-1peso-lg.jpg Comments, of course, always welcome. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Eastbound
A classic shot, picture postcard material that should stand a nice big print too. Good stuff! Godfrey On Aug 9, 2013, at 5:06 AM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: Another railway shot - but with spectacular scenery in Glacier National Park: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP3763-K5-1peso.html A larger version is here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/_IGP3763-K5-1peso-lg.jpg Comments, of course, always welcome. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Eastbound
Wonderful shot. But where's Alec Guinness when you need him? B On 9 Aug 2013, at 13:06, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: Another railway shot - but with spectacular scenery in Glacier National Park: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP3763-K5-1peso.html A larger version is here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/_IGP3763-K5-1peso-lg.jpg Comments, of course, always welcome. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How often do you back up your hard drive?
On 9 Aug 2013, at 11:39, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: Quoting Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com: Well, since I've been working on this massive Photoshop textbook project, the answer for me is At least twice a day! :) Probably not enough. I rarely back up the entire disk but I have a semi-automated backup system for important folders (semi-automated in that I start it manually but it then checks and backs up changed files in the specified folders automatically to an external hard drive). I run this every couple of days - more often if I'm working on a big project. Every month I run the same backup system on a second hard drive which normally resides in my garden shed (on the assumption that if the house burns down, the shed wont - or vice versa. If both burn down at the same time, I'm screwed. You need a shed, or house, made out of aeroplane black box material. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Eastbound
Superb! Paul via phone On Aug 9, 2013, at 1:04 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com wrote: A classic shot, picture postcard material that should stand a nice big print too. Good stuff! Godfrey On Aug 9, 2013, at 5:06 AM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: Another railway shot - but with spectacular scenery in Glacier National Park: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP3763-K5-1peso.html A larger version is here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/_IGP3763-K5-1peso-lg.jpg Comments, of course, always welcome. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re:Peso A view from the flatlands
Thanks Dan Bruce for timely comments. Here is new link please use this dustless one. Thanks http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/9474838174/# pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 9 Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 11:36:07 -0400 From: Bruce Walkerbruce.wal...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Peso A view from the flatlands Message-ID: CAJUU0CdfwU9DbwsT6NxM_JL21=t8wyjwenzyoy+etccrqk-...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 That's a beautiful vista, Don. I see curves though -- not so flat.:-) And I see sensor dust: bottom-right edge of cloud in upper left corner. Skies are bad for that.;-) On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Don Guthrieshark50...@gmail.com wrote: This is what the world looks like in the Summer out on the flatlands. K-5 Sigma 10-20 CC welcomed. http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/9473673468/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Carrying a camera on a long walk
I wouldn't agonize to much over WR. Same here. I've shot almost exclusively Pentax/Takumar lenses for over 45 years and have never had an issue with any of those non-WR lenses. I've shot in pouring rain, sleet snow storms using only what ever shielding I had at the time (towel or plastic bag) and the lenses were non the worse for the experience. WR is a great advertising point, especially if you don't take care of your equipment. So how many have had a lens issue/failure due to precipitation? Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Gerrit Visser gerrit...@gmail.com Subject: RE: Carrying a camera on a long walk I learned in Alaska to never change lenses when travelling. My K100D had sensor crap for months. I now exclusively use 18-250 on both our cameras for travels. The hassle of cleaning sensors in the evening is not worth it to me. On our recent trip to Indonesia etc we had lots of rain. Our lenses are not WR but a bit of caution in downpours meant that we still got photos, but no water inside. Unless it is actually pouring, I wouldn't agonize to much over WR. Gerrit -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Aahz Maruch Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2013 10:59 PM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Carrying a camera on a long walk On Thu, Aug 08, 2013, steve harley wrote: on 2013-08-08 9:33 Aahz Maruch wrote I did have the 16-50 in my case, but it was drizzling at the start, and partway through the walk I decided to just make it a one-lens exercise. (Sure was glad to have WR lens!) did you mean DA 16-45? DA* 16-50 is sealed, even though it doesn't have WR in the name Absolutely! I used it in a light rain a few days earlier. But the camera is *NOT* sealed while you're changing lenses... (Perhaps I was being a bit overcautious, but I'm not always sure-fingered and this was a rental camera/lens.) Side note: that light rain with the 16-50 taught me another reason why really it's a Good Idea to use a lens hood. Lens spots in those pics are fortunately not t visible (and lend a bit of atmosphere to some). -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6 http://rule6.info/ * * * Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Carrying a camera on a long walk
on 2013-08-09 1:46 Eric Weir wrote Thanks, Steve. Experiment with the 50 yesterday convinced me that I at least need to take the 28, maybe just the 28. 50mm seems to work differently for different people; i don't use it for portraits much, but still the angle of view seems to suit me BWIAI, where do you stitch panoramics? Lightroom? mostly i've used used Hugin, and in my limited experience it is quite a powerful tool, though it takes some work http://hugin.sourceforge.net Photoshop has a built-in stitching feature too; i think there are probably several other tools; i have also made panoramas with iPhone 3 iPhone 4 using third party apps (these models don't have the built-in panorama feature) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How often do you back up your hard drive?
on 2013-08-08 19:46 Mark Roberts wrote Well, since I've been working on this massive Photoshop textbook project, the answer for me is At least twice a day! :) Time Machine here too, it's one of the most under-sung features of OS X though i have the photos excluded, because i copy them to a separate server as they come onto my hard drive (and then sync the server drive to Drobo); i clone my main hard drive periodically as well, and try to rotate clones, keeping one in the (detached garage) aside from photos, most of my frequently updated info is in Dropbox or Evernote, or on Fastmail.fm's IMAP server; Dropbox also syncs in real time to my server -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Carrying a camera on a long walk
on 2013-08-09 5:38 Gerrit Visser wrote Unless it is actually pouring, I wouldn't agonize to much over WR. i think dust grit is a potentially worse enemy; earlier this summer i was hiking (more like slogging) in the Great Sand Dunes and there were points where i was head-to-toe sand-blasted by 20+ mph winds; i only took my camera out when there was less sand in the air, but still i had to brush down my camera lens very carefully afterward -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: 'On the web - part deux'
A redo of a previous PESO. K20D, 200mm f4.0 ED Macro Your thoughts? http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17490150 Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: 'On the web - part deux'
Ken, I do like this one better. The fly is still really small, but the spider and web are very sharp and the finer strands of the wweb are more visible. Excellent composition and details. Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 3:01 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: A redo of a previous PESO. K20D, 200mm f4.0 ED Macro Your thoughts? http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17490150 Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How often do you back up your hard drive?
On Aug 9, 2013, at 14:20 , steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: on 2013-08-08 19:46 Mark Roberts wrote Well, since I've been working on this massive Photoshop textbook project, the answer for me is At least twice a day! :) Time Machine here too, it's one of the most under-sung features of OS X Same here. I plug into a 3TB harddrive when I sit down at the office, and disconnect it when I leave. That way my backup is offsite. For good measure, I also back up to an offsite location via a service called CrashPlan. 129/year gives me unlimited backup storage for up to 10 machines. It has saved my bacon on more than one occasion. Every month I also rotate off my last month's images to two different external drives. So at any given time I will have copies of month-or-more older photos on: 1. Internal harddrive 2. External Time Machine drive 3. Portable image archive harddrive (contents compared between source and destination post-copy) 4. Desktop-sized image archive harddrive (contents compared between source and destination post-copy) 5. CrashPlan's cloud. That's pretty belt-and-suspenders but it works for me. And most of it is automated, so it just happens. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: 'On the web - part deux'
Striking and effective. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 4:01 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: A redo of a previous PESO. K20D, 200mm f4.0 ED Macro Your thoughts? http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17490150 Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: One more sign
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Re: PESO: 'On the web - part deux'
This is an example of one of those compositions wherein the principal element is usually more comfortable if centered. To me, the image is a bit soft. Jack - Original Message - From: kwal...@peoplepc.com kwal...@peoplepc.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Friday, August 9, 2013 1:01 PM Subject: PESO: 'On the web - part deux' A redo of a previous PESO. K20D, 200mm f4.0 ED Macro Your thoughts? http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17490150 Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO At a Park in Hebron, Ohio
Waiting for the rain to stop. Stop it did, but not until mid afternoon, and I shot only six Mopar Nationals cars today. Probably have to double that tomorrow. This wildflower was growing in profusion in a wetland. Looks like some kind of hibiscus, but I have no idea what it actually is. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17490373 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO At a Park in Hebron, Ohio
Very nice Paul. It does look like a hibiscus. I didn't know they grew wild in Ohio. Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 9:56 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Waiting for the rain to stop. Stop it did, but not until mid afternoon, and I shot only six Mopar Nationals cars today. Probably have to double that tomorrow. This wildflower was growing in profusion in a wetland. Looks like some kind of hibiscus, but I have no idea what it actually is. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17490373 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO At a Park in Hebron, Ohio
Nicely done Paul, but does it have a hemi? Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Subject: PESO At a Park in Hebron, Ohio Waiting for the rain to stop. Stop it did, but not until mid afternoon, and I shot only six Mopar Nationals cars today. Probably have to double that tomorrow. This wildflower was growing in profusion in a wetland. Looks like some kind of hibiscus, but I have no idea what it actually is. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17490373 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: 'On the web - part deux'
Interesting comment Jack. To me centered is sort of a default composition. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: PESO: 'On the web - part deux' This is an example of one of those compositions wherein the principal element is usually more comfortable if centered. To me, the image is a bit soft. Jack - Original Message - From: kwal...@peoplepc.com kwal...@peoplepc.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Friday, August 9, 2013 1:01 PM Subject: PESO: 'On the web - part deux' A redo of a previous PESO. K20D, 200mm f4.0 ED Macro Your thoughts? http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17490150 Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO At a Park in Hebron, Ohio
Lovely bloom, very well depicted. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 10:56 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Waiting for the rain to stop. Stop it did, but not until mid afternoon, and I shot only six Mopar Nationals cars today. Probably have to double that tomorrow. This wildflower was growing in profusion in a wetland. Looks like some kind of hibiscus, but I have no idea what it actually is. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17490373 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Petunia
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17468771 Comments are invited. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: One more sign
Interesting, but I don't believe it. The collection is from diverse localities habitats so they must have a huge travelling budget. I see some Southern African species there. The specimens are all pristine (new), not battered worn as older ones are. I collected for several years when I was studying never found expired butterflies in this condition. I have, however, seen collectors taking specimens from the radiators of cars at filling stations on highways. Alan C -Original Message- From: Daniel J. Matyola Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 10:43 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO: One more sign http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17484071 Comments invited. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
