date:20130917

Oh, and most nighttime pics on page 2 were shot between 16,000 and 20,000 
ISO in TAv mode. Sometimes even 20,000 was not enough and some pics resulted 
underexposed 2 or 3 stops, so that I decided to brighten them afterwards. 
That explains the noise ;)

Dario

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From: Dario Bonazza

Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 8:44 AM
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Subject: GESO - Ammutinamenti 2013 (Sat. 14)

Here you'll find a gallery of pics I took at the festival on Saturday:
http://www.festivalammutinamenti.org/2013/2013/09/16/14-settembre-2013-2/
No pics were staged there; all seen and shot while dancers were stretching
(daytime) or performing (nighttime). I have to say that fisheye is fun!
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What's next?

2013-09-17 Thread Larry Colen

Prices on the K-5 II are plummeting. I think that we are getting pretty 
close to the next big announcment.  I'm going to take some guesses.

1) When you look at cameras that Ricoh and Pentax have produced lately:
GXR, Q, K-01, and even the K-5,50,500  you have a collection of 
cameras where the company is not afraid to take a chance on something
different.  I would be very surprised if the next camera is a "me too"
DSLR. 

2) Each of the recent Pentax bodies has interesting mirrorless features.
DSLR, or mirrorless, it will have a strong mirrorless mode, with focus
peaking.

3) Mirror or mirroless, it will keep the K-mount.  They just updated the
DA limiteds.  They *could* be for just the current line up, but a radical
departure in camera mount seems out of character.  If you look at the
percentage of Pentax sales to return customers (the only ones who know
who Pentax is), a radical change in lens mount would be shooting themselves
in the foot, because that would negate the biggest reason for many 
of their customers to not change to Nikon or Canon.  

Remember that wide angle lens that they showed, but didn't talk about 
at the show where they released the K-01?  The one where the rear element
extended into the mirrorbox?  Either the camera will be a high end, K-mount
mirrorless, or it will have a mode where you can lock the mirror up, and 
use lenses that extend into the mirrorbox.  If I could lock the mirror
up on my 1968 SRT-101, they should be able to do the same on a modern 
DSLR. 

4) I'd say it's an 80% chance that it will be APS, not 24x36 sensor.  
Note that they released new versions of DA limiteds, not FA limiteds. 
I'll guess that the sensor will be 24-30 MP, and the per-pixel performance
will be at least a stop better than the K-5 (at 1.5 - 2 times the resolution).

I suspect that there will be non-retrofocus wide angle lenses, and the system
will have overall performance that will rival the D800 and 5DmkIII, at a 
significantly lower price. 

I think that the flagship, if APS will list for $2,000. If 24x36 will list
for $2,400. 

5) It will be weather sealed, with in body shake reduction.

6) I think that if it has a mirror, they will add focus points, but not
enough of them.

7) I think that they will drop the K-5, but keep the K50 and 500.
 If they do keep the K-5II, the list price would need to drop to
at, or below the cost of the K-50. 

8) I'd say 80% chance that it will not have an anti-aliasing filter
over the sensor. 

9) There will be much gnashing of teeth, rending of shirts and pulling
of hair because it will not be just a 24x36 version of the K-5 with 40
autofocus points.  A lot of those people will at that point sell off
their pentax gear and buy a full frame canikon.  Very few of them 
will get photos that are technically superior to what they would have 
gotten if they had stayed with Pentax.  

Why not full frame?  Look at the new u4/3 cameras. Their sensors are
half the area of APS, and the sensor performance of the top end 
u 4/3 cameras are getting close to that of the K-5.

I think that the camera will likely be announced close to the beginning
of November (unless there is a big camera show before then), just in
time for the holiday wishlists.
  
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Re: GESO - Ammutinamenti 2013 (Sat. 14)

I'd imagine the dancers generally felt that these perspectives fairly well 
depicted their sense of movement. 
What was their reaction?

Jack

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Subject: GESO - Ammutinamenti 2013 (Sat. 14)

Here you'll find a gallery of pics I took at the festival on Saturday:
http://www.festivalammutinamenti.org/2013/2013/09/16/14-settembre-2013-2/
No pics were staged there; all seen and shot while dancers were stretching 
(daytime) or performing (nighttime). I have to say that fisheye is fun!
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Re: GESO - Ammutinamenti 2013 (Sat. 14)

Very little reaction after I was recognized as the photographer and 
explained the fisheye lens required me to go so close. They were doing their 
duties of stretching/warming/practicing and I was doing my duty of shooting. 
Very few words exchanged among us and then I went away shooting other people 
at the event.

Dario

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From: Jack Davis

Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 1:03 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: GESO - Ammutinamenti 2013 (Sat. 14)

I'd imagine the dancers generally felt that these perspectives fairly well 
depicted their sense of movement.

What was their reaction?

Jack


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Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 11:44 PM
Subject: GESO - Ammutinamenti 2013 (Sat. 14)

Here you'll find a gallery of pics I took at the festival on Saturday:
http://www.festivalammutinamenti.org/2013/2013/09/16/14-settembre-2013-2/
No pics were staged there; all seen and shot while dancers were stretching
(daytime) or performing (nighttime). I have to say that fisheye is fun!
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Re: GESO - Ammutinamenti 2013 (Sat. 14)


Oh, and the lights/sound technician (the guy on the right in first picture
and a Canon shooter) told me I am a very alternative photographer by using
Pentax ;)
Dario

-Messaggio originale- 
From: Dario Bonazza

Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 1:13 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: GESO - Ammutinamenti 2013 (Sat. 14)

Very little reaction after I was recognized as the photographer and
explained the fisheye lens required me to go so close. They were doing their
duties of stretching/warming/practicing and I was doing my duty of shooting.
Very few words exchanged among us and then I went away shooting other people
at the event.
Dario

-Messaggio originale- 
From: Jack Davis

Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 1:03 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: GESO - Ammutinamenti 2013 (Sat. 14)

I'd imagine the dancers generally felt that these perspectives fairly well
depicted their sense of movement.
What was their reaction?

Jack


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From: Dario Bonazza 
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
Cc:
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 11:44 PM
Subject: GESO - Ammutinamenti 2013 (Sat. 14)

Here you'll find a gallery of pics I took at the festival on Saturday:
http://www.festivalammutinamenti.org/2013/2013/09/16/14-settembre-2013-2/
No pics were staged there; all seen and shot while dancers were stretching
(daytime) or performing (nighttime). I have to say that fisheye is fun!
Dario


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PESO - The Photographers

2013-09-17 Thread Brian Walters


G'day all

At the rate I'm going it will be this time next year before I finish  
working on the photos from the USA trip...


Here's a shot of my sons at the Grand Canyon in April.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP1545-K5-1peso.html

That's Jeff on the left with his Nikon D90 and Chris on the right with  
his K20D.


As an aside, Chris got so sick of constantly setting up the tripod and  
swapping lenses on and off the camera that he sold his K20 kit  
(including a 10-17mm fisheye and 60-250mm zoom) and replaced the lot  
with a Fuji X100S - reckons it's the best thing he's ever done.   
Pentax loses another one.



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Re: What's next?

I think that Pentax is (over)due for a substantive refresh at the top
of its model line. If they are going to continue to support medium
format, I think that a 645DII is in the offing.

And I think that a higher megapixel sensor is needed (and coming) for
the flagship DSLR (still APS-C). I happen to believe it will be the
24.3MP sensor used in the Sony SLT-A77. Whatever they offer, I believe
that it will come in two versions, like the K-5II and the K-5IIs

I still believe that a full frame is in the offing, but I will be
surprised if it is among the cameras that will be announced yet THIS
year. I think that part of the complication is decisions over whether
it should be compatible (or CAN be compatible) with accessories like
the O-GPS1 (AstroTracer)

I know a lot of Pentax people would be happy just to have a high
quality Pentax AF teleconverter. Pentax has made its own job harder in
that department by not committing to SDM or the cheaper "screw drive"
AF.

As I said the other day, I would not be surprised to see the K-02
(K-01 brought back with EVF and tilting screen ALA X-5 technologies).

On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 4:34 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> Prices on the K-5 II are plummeting. I think that we are getting pretty
> close to the next big announcment.  I'm going to take some guesses.
>
> 1) When you look at cameras that Ricoh and Pentax have produced lately:
> GXR, Q, K-01, and even the K-5,50,500  you have a collection of
> cameras where the company is not afraid to take a chance on something
> different.  I would be very surprised if the next camera is a "me too"
> DSLR.
>
> 2) Each of the recent Pentax bodies has interesting mirrorless features.
> DSLR, or mirrorless, it will have a strong mirrorless mode, with focus
> peaking.
>
> 3) Mirror or mirroless, it will keep the K-mount.  They just updated the
> DA limiteds.  They *could* be for just the current line up, but a radical
> departure in camera mount seems out of character.  If you look at the
> percentage of Pentax sales to return customers (the only ones who know
> who Pentax is), a radical change in lens mount would be shooting themselves
> in the foot, because that would negate the biggest reason for many
> of their customers to not change to Nikon or Canon.
>
> Remember that wide angle lens that they showed, but didn't talk about
> at the show where they released the K-01?  The one where the rear element
> extended into the mirrorbox?  Either the camera will be a high end, K-mount
> mirrorless, or it will have a mode where you can lock the mirror up, and
> use lenses that extend into the mirrorbox.  If I could lock the mirror
> up on my 1968 SRT-101, they should be able to do the same on a modern
> DSLR.
>
> 4) I'd say it's an 80% chance that it will be APS, not 24x36 sensor.
> Note that they released new versions of DA limiteds, not FA limiteds.
> I'll guess that the sensor will be 24-30 MP, and the per-pixel performance
> will be at least a stop better than the K-5 (at 1.5 - 2 times the resolution).
>
> I suspect that there will be non-retrofocus wide angle lenses, and the system
> will have overall performance that will rival the D800 and 5DmkIII, at a
> significantly lower price.
>
> I think that the flagship, if APS will list for $2,000. If 24x36 will list
> for $2,400.
>
> 5) It will be weather sealed, with in body shake reduction.
>
> 6) I think that if it has a mirror, they will add focus points, but not
> enough of them.
>
> 7) I think that they will drop the K-5, but keep the K50 and 500.
>  If they do keep the K-5II, the list price would need to drop to
> at, or below the cost of the K-50.
>
> 8) I'd say 80% chance that it will not have an anti-aliasing filter
> over the sensor.
>
> 9) There will be much gnashing of teeth, rending of shirts and pulling
> of hair because it will not be just a 24x36 version of the K-5 with 40
> autofocus points.  A lot of those people will at that point sell off
> their pentax gear and buy a full frame canikon.  Very few of them
> will get photos that are technically superior to what they would have
> gotten if they had stayed with Pentax.
>
> Why not full frame?  Look at the new u4/3 cameras. Their sensors are
> half the area of APS, and the sensor performance of the top end
> u 4/3 cameras are getting close to that of the K-5.
>
> I think that the camera will likely be announced close to the beginning
> of November (unless there is a big camera show before then), just in
> time for the holiday wishlists.
>
> --
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>
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Re: PESO 2013 - 089 - GDG

2013-09-17 Thread Rick Womer

Four fingers instead of just one.  Not too antagonized.

Nice pic.

Rick


 
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Subject: PESO 2013 - 089 - GDG

A simple gesture that reveals.

  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/9782231353/lightbox

Thanks for looking. Comments always appreciated. 

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Re: PESO - The Photographers

2013-09-17 Thread Rick Womer

I would get myself medicated for obsessive-compulsive disorder if I set up a 
lightweight tripod to take a scenic pic in blazing mid-day sun, even with a 
K10D.  Heck, even with Kodachrome 25.

Hope his symptoms have abated with the Fuji.

Nice pic, by the way.

Rick


 
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Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 7:55 AM
Subject: PESO - The Photographers

G'day all

At the rate I'm going it will be this time next year before I finish working on 
the photos from the USA trip...

Here's a shot of my sons at the Grand Canyon in April.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP1545-K5-1peso.html

That's Jeff on the left with his Nikon D90 and Chris on the right with his K20D.

As an aside, Chris got so sick of constantly setting up the tripod and swapping 
lenses on and off the camera that he sold his K20 kit (including a 10-17mm 
fisheye and 60-250mm zoom) and replaced the lot with a Fuji X100S - reckons 
it's the best thing he's ever done.  Pentax loses another one.


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OT: TV Commercial of the year

I know;  unfortunately, it's a damn Canon ad, but I like what it says
about the devotion of photographers.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/copyranter/emmys-pick-commercial-of-the-year
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Re: GESO - Ammutinamenti 2013 (Sat. 14)

2013-09-17 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

Neat set of photos, and one of the better uses of fish-eye that I've seen in a 
while. 

Godfrey

On Sep 16, 2013, at 11:44 PM, Dario Bonazza  wrote:

> Here you'll find a gallery of pics I took at the festival on Saturday:
> http://www.festivalammutinamenti.org/2013/2013/09/16/14-settembre-2013-2/
> No pics were staged there; all seen and shot while dancers were stretching 
> (daytime) or performing (nighttime). I have to say that fisheye is fun!
> Dario 


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OT: 40 Detailed Close-Ups of Arthropods

http://twistedsifter.com/2013/09/the-most-detailed-close-ups-of-arthropods-ever/

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Camera Brand Pros & Cons

Thought this might be interesting fodder for some. I find the
"analysis" lacking much depth however.

http://www.digitalcamerareview.com/default.asp?newsID=5404&news=what+brand+should+I+buy+into+market+anlysis

Regarding what he says about Pentax: Weakness = "kit lens"? I thought
that Pentax was considered one of the better kit lenses, according to
the reviewers back when I got my K200D. Even if it were true, that
seems a pretty dumb thing to have your choice based upon.



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Re: PDML Digest, Vol 89, Issue 140

Thanks, Don.
Dan Matyola
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On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Don Guthrie  wrote:
> A man comfortable in his own skin. As the farmers say around here, "If you
> have good equipment you keep a roof over it."
>
> pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:
>>
>> Message: 12
>> Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 22:01:13 -0400
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>> Subject: PESO: Master of all he Surveys
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>> 
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>>
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Re: GESO - Ammutinamenti 2013 (Sat. 14)

That is a truly impressive gallery, Dario!  Great color and wonderful
execution with the fisheye lens.

I found it a bit difficult to navigate through the images, however.
Dan Matyola
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On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 2:44 AM, Dario Bonazza
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> Here you'll find a gallery of pics I took at the festival on Saturday:
> http://www.festivalammutinamenti.org/2013/2013/09/16/14-settembre-2013-2/
> No pics were staged there; all seen and shot while dancers were stretching
> (daytime) or performing (nighttime). I have to say that fisheye is fun!
> Dario
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Re: PESO - The Photographers

Great image, combining a wonderful landscape with genuine human
interest and documentary content.

Dan Matyola
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On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 7:55 AM, Brian Walters  wrote:
> G'day all
>
> At the rate I'm going it will be this time next year before I finish working
> on the photos from the USA trip...
>
> Here's a shot of my sons at the Grand Canyon in April.
>
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP1545-K5-1peso.html
>
> That's Jeff on the left with his Nikon D90 and Chris on the right with his
> K20D.
>
> As an aside, Chris got so sick of constantly setting up the tripod and
> swapping lenses on and off the camera that he sold his K20 kit (including a
> 10-17mm fisheye and 60-250mm zoom) and replaced the lot with a Fuji X100S -
> reckons it's the best thing he's ever done.  Pentax loses another one.
>
>
> --
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>
> Brian
>
> ++
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>
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Re: PESO 2013 - 089 - GDG

Great moment.  A portrait without a face -- clever indeed.
Dan Matyola
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> A simple gesture that reveals.
>
>   http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/9782231353/lightbox
>
> Thanks for looking. Comments always appreciated.
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Re: My new book: Nature Photography Workshop

Congratulations, Stan.  It looks great!
Dan Matyola
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> I've published a Blurb book based on the workshop I participated in early 
> last month. Mostly photos I took during (and before and after) the workshop, 
> but also text giving a day-by-day précis on what we did, what the learning 
> objectives were, etc. Not a full-blown detailed outline, but what I thought 
> was just enough to give a sense of the experience.
>
> Full preview turned on.  www.blurb.com/user/store/smhalpin
>
> I've also posted all of the photos from the book (excluding most shots of 
> other participants) in a gallery at:
>
> http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p989679637
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Re: GESO - Ammutinamenti 2013 (Sat. 14)

Did you tell him that he was a default photographer?
 
Jack


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Subject: Re: GESO - Ammutinamenti 2013 (Sat. 14)

Oh, and the lights/sound technician (the guy on the right in first picture
and a Canon shooter) told me I am a very alternative photographer by using
Pentax ;)
Dario

-Messaggio originale- 
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Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 1:13 PM
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Subject: Re: GESO - Ammutinamenti 2013 (Sat. 14)

Very little reaction after I was recognized as the photographer and
explained the fisheye lens required me to go so close. They were doing their
duties of stretching/warming/practicing and I was doing my duty of shooting.
Very few words exchanged among us and then I went away shooting other people
at the event.
Dario

-Messaggio originale- 
From: Jack Davis
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 1:03 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: GESO - Ammutinamenti 2013 (Sat. 14)

I'd imagine the dancers generally felt that these perspectives fairly well
depicted their sense of movement.
What was their reaction?

Jack


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Subject: GESO - Ammutinamenti 2013 (Sat. 14)

Here you'll find a gallery of pics I took at the festival on Saturday:
http://www.festivalammutinamenti.org/2013/2013/09/16/14-settembre-2013-2/
No pics were staged there; all seen and shot while dancers were stretching
(daytime) or performing (nighttime). I have to say that fisheye is fun!
Dario


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Re: OT: TV Commercial of the year

Love it!

J

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Subject: OT: TV Commercial of the year

I know;  unfortunately, it's a damn Canon ad, but I like what it says
about the devotion of photographers.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/copyranter/emmys-pick-commercial-of-the-year
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Re: Camera Brand Pros & Cons

People tend to find what they're looking for.

Jack

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Subject: Camera Brand Pros & Cons

Thought this might be interesting fodder for some. I find the
"analysis" lacking much depth however.

http://www.digitalcamerareview.com/default.asp?newsID=5404&news=what+brand+should+I+buy+into+market+anlysis

Regarding what he says about Pentax: Weakness = "kit lens"? I thought
that Pentax was considered one of the better kit lenses, according to
the reviewers back when I got my K200D. Even if it were true, that
seems a pretty dumb thing to have your choice based upon.

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Re: PESO 2013 - 089 - GDG

Kind of like your personal gallery PPG photo, Dan. (HA)

Jack


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Subject: Re: PESO 2013 - 089 - GDG

Great moment.  A portrait without a face -- clever indeed.
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>
>  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/9782231353/lightbox
>
> Thanks for looking. Comments always appreciated.
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Re: What's next?


On Sep 17, 2013, at 5:34 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

> Prices on the K-5 II are plummeting. I think that we are getting pretty 
> close to the next big announcment.  I'm going to take some guesses.
> 
> 1) When you look at cameras that Ricoh and Pentax have produced lately:
> GXR, Q, K-01, and even the K-5,50,500  you have a collection of 
> cameras where the company is not afraid to take a chance on something
> different.  I would be very surprised if the next camera is a "me too"
> DSLR. 
> 
> 2) Each of the recent Pentax bodies has interesting mirrorless features.
> DSLR, or mirrorless, it will have a strong mirrorless mode, with focus
> peaking.
> 
> 3) Mirror or mirroless, it will keep the K-mount.  They just updated the
> DA limiteds.  They *could* be for just the current line up, but a radical
> departure in camera mount seems out of character.  If you look at the
> percentage of Pentax sales to return customers (the only ones who know
> who Pentax is), a radical change in lens mount would be shooting themselves
> in the foot, because that would negate the biggest reason for many 
> of their customers to not change to Nikon or Canon.  
> 
> Remember that wide angle lens that they showed, but didn't talk about 
> at the show where they released the K-01?  The one where the rear element
> extended into the mirrorbox?  Either the camera will be a high end, K-mount
> mirrorless, or it will have a mode where you can lock the mirror up, and 
> use lenses that extend into the mirrorbox.  If I could lock the mirror
> up on my 1968 SRT-101, they should be able to do the same on a modern 
> DSLR. 
> 
> 4) I'd say it's an 80% chance that it will be APS, not 24x36 sensor.  
> Note that they released new versions of DA limiteds, not FA limiteds. 
> I'll guess that the sensor will be 24-30 MP, and the per-pixel performance
> will be at least a stop better than the K-5 (at 1.5 - 2 times the resolution).
> 
> I suspect that there will be non-retrofocus wide angle lenses, and the system
> will have overall performance that will rival the D800 and 5DmkIII, at a 
> significantly lower price. 
> 
> I think that the flagship, if APS will list for $2,000. If 24x36 will list
> for $2,400. 

I don't see anything in your speculative description that is anything but a 
minor tech tweek/upgrade. There is no way I can see a new APS-C body priced at 
$800 more than the K-5iis unless they actually either made substantive real 
massive improvements in AF speed and accuracy and frame rate and buffer 
capacity, or they give us more color choices. ;-) A sensor with higher pixel 
count would be a negative  for me unless and until I am convinced that they 
haven't sacrificed high-ISO image quality. Anything without an optical 
viewfinder would be a huge negative and would put the camera in the $300-350 
range for me.
> 
> 5) It will be weather sealed, with in body shake reduction.
> 
> 6) I think that if it has a mirror, they will add focus points, but not
> enough of them.
> 
> 7) I think that they will drop the K-5, but keep the K50 and 500.
> If they do keep the K-5II, the list price would need to drop to
> at, or below the cost of the K-50. 
> 
> 8) I'd say 80% chance that it will not have an anti-aliasing filter
> over the sensor. 
> 
> 9) There will be much gnashing of teeth, rending of shirts and pulling
> of hair because it will not be just a 24x36 version of the K-5 with 40
> autofocus points.  A lot of those people will at that point sell off
> their pentax gear and buy a full frame canikon.  Very few of them 
> will get photos that are technically superior to what they would have 
> gotten if they had stayed with Pentax.  
> 
> Why not full frame?  Look at the new u4/3 cameras. Their sensors are
> half the area of APS, and the sensor performance of the top end 
> u 4/3 cameras are getting close to that of the K-5.
> 
> I think that the camera will likely be announced close to the beginning
> of November (unless there is a big camera show before then), just in
> time for the holiday wishlists.
> 
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Re: My new book: Nature Photography Workshop

Thanks Dan.

On Sep 17, 2013, at 9:14 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

> Congratulations, Stan.  It looks great!
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> 
> 
> On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 10:12 PM, Stan Halpin
>  wrote:
>> I've published a Blurb book based on the workshop I participated in early 
>> last month. Mostly photos I took during (and before and after) the workshop, 
>> but also text giving a day-by-day précis on what we did, what the learning 
>> objectives were, etc. Not a full-blown detailed outline, but what I thought 
>> was just enough to give a sense of the experience.
>> 
>> Full preview turned on.  www.blurb.com/user/store/smhalpin
>> 
>> I've also posted all of the photos from the book (excluding most shots of 
>> other participants) in a gallery at:
>> 
>> http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p989679637
>> 
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best pro lab for printing

I have a customer who wants some prints that are larger than what I offer. (I 
can only print up to 13 x19.) I've done some of this before but can't recall 
what lab I used. I'm not overly concerned abut price; quality is paramount. Any 
recommendations?

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Re: best pro lab for printing

What you need to know begins and ends with MPIX.
http://www.mpix.com

The are the digital arm of Miller's Professional Imaging, who was (and
continues to be) a superb film lab serving professionals.

On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> I have a customer who wants some prints that are larger than what I offer. (I 
> can only print up to 13 x19.) I've done some of this before but can't recall 
> what lab I used. I'm not overly concerned abut price; quality is paramount. 
> Any recommendations?
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Re: PESO 2013 - 089 - GDG

Thanks, Jack.

If you don't think you could identify me from that photo, perhaps this
one is a bit more revealing:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14193193

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On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> Kind of like your personal gallery PPG photo, Dan. (HA)
>
> Jack
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Daniel J. Matyola 
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
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> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 6:11 AM
> Subject: Re: PESO 2013 - 089 - GDG
>
> Great moment.  A portrait without a face -- clever indeed.
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 2:58 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi
>  wrote:
>> A simple gesture that reveals.
>>
>>  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/9782231353/lightbox
>>
>> Thanks for looking. Comments always appreciated.
>>
>> Godfrey
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>> http://godfreydigiorgi.wordpress.com/
>>
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Re: best pro lab for printing

Thanks Darren.

On Sep 17, 2013, at 9:41 AM, Darren Addy  wrote:

> What you need to know begins and ends with MPIX.
> http://www.mpix.com
> 
> The are the digital arm of Miller's Professional Imaging, who was (and
> continues to be) a superb film lab serving professionals.
> 
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Paul Stenquist  
> wrote:
>> I have a customer who wants some prints that are larger than what I offer. 
>> (I can only print up to 13 x19.) I've done some of this before but can't 
>> recall what lab I used. I'm not overly concerned abut price; quality is 
>> paramount. Any recommendations?
>> 
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Re: GESO - Ammutinamenti 2013 (Sat. 14)


Thanks Godfrey.
Perhaps this is the occasion to explain that some of those pictures are not 
up to the level of others, but I had to supply the organization a report 
covering the whole event.

Dario

-Messaggio originale- 
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi

Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 2:56 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: GESO - Ammutinamenti 2013 (Sat. 14)

Neat set of photos, and one of the better uses of fish-eye that I've seen in 
a while.


Godfrey

On Sep 16, 2013, at 11:44 PM, Dario Bonazza  
wrote:



Here you'll find a gallery of pics I took at the festival on Saturday:
http://www.festivalammutinamenti.org/2013/2013/09/16/14-settembre-2013-2/
No pics were staged there; all seen and shot while dancers were stretching 
(daytime) or performing (nighttime). I have to say that fisheye is fun!

Dario



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OT: Fuji X-A1 announced: $599 with kit lens

http://www.fujifilmusa.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujifilm_x_a1/
http://www.fujifilm.com/news/n130917.html
http://www.engadget.com/2013/09/17/fujifilm-x-a1-mirrorless-entry-level-ilc-camera/
16MP APS-C
ISO: 25,600
3" tiltable LCD
Interchangable lenses with a huge lens lineup:
http://www.fujifilmusa.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujifilm_x_a1/features/page_05.html#section04
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Re: GESO - Ammutinamenti 2013 (Sat. 14)


Har, that would make an excellent tshirt:

PENTAX
(because I'm not a default photographer)

Dario

-Messaggio originale- 
From: Jack Davis

Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 3:18 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: GESO - Ammutinamenti 2013 (Sat. 14)

Did you tell him that he was a default photographer?

Jack


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Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 4:20 AM
Subject: Re: GESO - Ammutinamenti 2013 (Sat. 14)

Oh, and the lights/sound technician (the guy on the right in first picture
and a Canon shooter) told me I am a very alternative photographer by using
Pentax ;)
Dario

-Messaggio originale- 
From: Dario Bonazza

Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 1:13 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: GESO - Ammutinamenti 2013 (Sat. 14)

Very little reaction after I was recognized as the photographer and
explained the fisheye lens required me to go so close. They were doing their
duties of stretching/warming/practicing and I was doing my duty of shooting.
Very few words exchanged among us and then I went away shooting other people
at the event.
Dario

-Messaggio originale- 
From: Jack Davis

Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 1:03 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: GESO - Ammutinamenti 2013 (Sat. 14)

I'd imagine the dancers generally felt that these perspectives fairly well
depicted their sense of movement.
What was their reaction?

Jack


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To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
Cc:
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 11:44 PM
Subject: GESO - Ammutinamenti 2013 (Sat. 14)

Here you'll find a gallery of pics I took at the festival on Saturday:
http://www.festivalammutinamenti.org/2013/2013/09/16/14-settembre-2013-2/
No pics were staged there; all seen and shot while dancers were stretching
(daytime) or performing (nighttime). I have to say that fisheye is fun!
Dario


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Re: GESO - Ammutinamenti 2013 (Sat. 14)

Thanks Dan. Have you seen pages 2 and 3 too? Unfortunately, that's not my 
own gallery (it's the one of the event organization) and I have no control 
on how the pics are on display there. Perhaps one day I'll setup a gallery 
of mine with those pictures.

Dario

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That is a truly impressive gallery, Dario!  Great color and wonderful
execution with the fisheye lens.

I found it a bit difficult to navigate through the images, however.
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Here you'll find a gallery of pics I took at the festival on Saturday:
http://www.festivalammutinamenti.org/2013/2013/09/16/14-settembre-2013-2/
No pics were staged there; all seen and shot while dancers were stretching
(daytime) or performing (nighttime). I have to say that fisheye is fun!
Dario

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Re: GESO - Ammutinamenti 2013 (Sat. 14)

Yes, Dario, I saw two full pages and then a few images on a third
page.  It was easy to go from page to page, but I had trouble going
from one image to the next on the same page.  It wasn't that bad ,
but I thought I should mention it.

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> Thanks Dan. Have you seen pages 2 and 3 too? Unfortunately, that's not my
> own gallery (it's the one of the event organization) and I have no control
> on how the pics are on display there. Perhaps one day I'll setup a gallery
> of mine with those pictures.
> Dario
>
> -Messaggio originale- From: Daniel J. Matyola
> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 3:08 PM
>
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: GESO - Ammutinamenti 2013 (Sat. 14)
>
> That is a truly impressive gallery, Dario!  Great color and wonderful
> execution with the fisheye lens.
>
> I found it a bit difficult to navigate through the images, however.
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 2:44 AM, Dario Bonazza
>
>  wrote:
>>
>> Here you'll find a gallery of pics I took at the festival on Saturday:
>> http://www.festivalammutinamenti.org/2013/2013/09/16/14-settembre-2013-2/
>> No pics were staged there; all seen and shot while dancers were stretching
>> (daytime) or performing (nighttime). I have to say that fisheye is fun!
>> Dario
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Re: OT: Fuji X-A1 announced: $599 with kit lens

On 17/9/13, Darren Addy, discombobulated, unleashed:

>http://www.fujifilmusa.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujifilm_x_a1/
>http://www.fujifilm.com/news/n130917.html
>http://www.engadget.com/2013/09/17/fujifilm-x-a1-mirrorless-entry-level-
>ilc-camera/
>16MP APS-C
>ISO: 25,600
>3" tiltable LCD
>Interchangable lenses with a huge lens lineup:
>http://www.fujifilmusa.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujifilm_x_a1/
>features/page_05.html#section04
>: )

I've just nabbed a mint 7 month old X-E1 on eekbay for half new price.
It arrives tomorrow along with a PK-FX adaptor. Looks like I'll be able
to contribute to the PUG again soon ;-)

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Re: best pro lab for printing

Thanks Stan. MPIX has a limited selection of papers. That's not damning, but 
it's a drawback. I'll check out custom color.

Paul
On Sep 17, 2013, at 10:06 AM, Stan Halpin  wrote:

> 
> On Sep 17, 2013, at 9:37 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
> 
>> I have a customer who wants some prints that are larger than what I offer. 
>> (I can only print up to 13 x19.) I've done some of this before but can't 
>> recall what lab I used. I'm not overly concerned abut price; quality is 
>> paramount. Any recommendations?
>> 
>> Paul
>> -- 
> 
> I can second Darren's recommendation of MPIX - they are the ones linked to my 
> website, I've ordered a few prints of my own work from them.
> However, you might also consider http://www.customcolor.com
> They are a long-standing Kansas City institution catering to graphic artists 
> and professional photographers. I never had anything but top quality results 
> from them.
> 
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Re: OT: speaking of computer tales of woe...


If I get there, it will be from plodding along one day at a time.

On 9/16/2013 8:19 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

Catch me if you can...

actually I wont be 77 until December _ i'm practicing

ann

On 9/16/2013 14:56, John wrote:

I'm doing my best to get to the "77 year old" part, but it's going to
take me a while.

On 9/16/2013 11:07 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:



On 9/16/2013 10:24, Steven Sharpe wrote:



I am taking it in to the local Apple service dealer on Monday or
Tuesday
for repairs.


I think you should go in there and ask the genius about your head.


I'm taking it to an independent.

Whenever I go into an Apple Store I am completely ignored. I guess as
a middle-aged, 57 year old white male I am totally invisible to the
young, cool, trendy types who inhabit such places.


Try it being a 77 year old female :-(

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Re: best pro lab for printing

2013-09-17 Thread Kenneth Waller

Paul, I've had outstanding results with Bay Photo. They've done several jobs 
for me including a 4 foot by 3 foot print. They've been very good with their 
timing and care in shipping.

I don't think you can go wrong with them.


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>From: Paul Stenquist 
>Subject: best pro lab for printing
>
>I have a customer who wants some prints that are larger than what I offer. (I 
>can only print up to 13 x19.) I've done some of this before but can't recall 
>what lab I used. I'm not overly concerned abut price; quality is paramount. 
>Any recommendations?
>
>Paul


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Re: OT: speaking of computer tales of woe...


Well, I learned something. I didn't know Apple still had local
independent retailers.

On 9/16/2013 8:47 PM, Steve Sharpe wrote:

At 3:39 PM -0400 9/16/13, Paul Stenquist wrote:

When my  2009 iMac 24 required service twice in a row early in 2011,
my local genius-bar guy gave me a new iMac 27. I'm a genius-bar fan.


Well, I want to retract my negative comments of earlier today about the
Apple Store. I try to support local, small businesses as much as I can,
so I took my iMac 27" to a local Apple retailer/service instead of the
Apple Store, and had such a horrible experience with them that I walked
out with the computer under my arm rather than let them touch it.
Basically it was a Mac sales/service rep who hates Macs. I was told that
if a Mac breaks then you usually have to throw it out and buy a new one,
and they really didn't think they could fix my screen. When I tried to
buy a few accessories (like cables, a Superdrive and memory), nothing
was in stock and they wanted payment in advance before they would order
anything for me. The crowning touch came when another customer came in
and asked about Drobos. The rep said he had never heard of such a thing
and implied by his tone that the customer was talking through his hat. I
piped in at that point and told him that *I* knew what a Drobo was, as I
had learned all about them from this cool Pentax email list I'm
subscribed to! He did not like that, and I concluded that this guy knew
not only nothing about the Macs he was trying to sell, but also nothing
about computers in general.

So, in desperation I took my iMac to the Apple Store. This time I was
noticed right off and someone even carried the thing to the Genius Bar
for me. I had not made an appointment but they fit me in, did the
diagnostics and an estimate for the repair right off. It will be ready
for pick up by the end of the week. I told the guy I wanted a Superdrive
and some cables, and he said that because I'd had such bad luck with the
new computer and such a bad experience with the dealer that he was going
to GIVE me the Superdrive!

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Re: PESO 2013 - 089 - GDG

On 16/9/13, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:

>A simple gesture that reveals.
>
>  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/9782231353/lightbox
>
>Thanks for looking. Comments always appreciated. 

VERY nice! Love it.

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PESO - The Photographers

2013-09-17 Thread Bipin Gupta

I agree with you Rick when I saw the photo posted by Brian of his
children atop the Grand Canyon. Look at the last leg of the Tripod on
the ground. Absolutely thin and flimsy. And the wind can be pretty
gusty in those parts what with the depth and width of the Canyon
creating huge drafts.
That tripod is dangerous too. And a K20D with the 60-250 zoom sitting
atop that tripod will be unable to produce crisp photos of the picture
postcard beauty of the Grand Canyon.
Chris would have been better off getting a K-5IIs especially when
prices are dropping rock bottom.
That shot is very memorable for you Brian. Excellent composition and
capture too.
Regards.
Bipin - from that far away enchanting land

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Re: OT: Fuji X-A1 announced: $599 with kit lens

2013-09-17 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

Heh! You'll have fun with it! :-)

G

On Sep 17, 2013, at 7:09 AM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:

> I've just nabbed a mint 7 month old X-E1 on eekbay for half new price.
> It arrives tomorrow along with a PK-FX adaptor. Looks like I'll be able
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Re: best pro lab for printing

2013-09-17 Thread Ann Sanfedele


Bay Photo - really gorgeous stuff

ann

On 9/17/2013 09:37, Paul Stenquist wrote:

I have a customer who wants some prints that are larger than what I offer. (I 
can only print up to 13 x19.) I've done some of this before but can't recall 
what lab I used. I'm not overly concerned abut price; quality is paramount. Any 
recommendations?

Paul



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Re: best pro lab for printing

On Sep 17, 2013, at 9:37 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

> I have a customer who wants some prints that are larger than what I offer. (I 
> can only print up to 13 x19.) I've done some of this before but can't recall 
> what lab I used. I'm not overly concerned abut price; quality is paramount. 
> Any recommendations?
> 
> Paul
> -- 

I can second Darren's recommendation of MPIX - they are the ones linked to my 
website, I've ordered a few prints of my own work from them.
However, you might also consider http://www.customcolor.com
They are a long-standing Kansas City institution catering to graphic artists 
and professional photographers. I never had anything but top quality results 
from them.

stan

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Re: PESO 2013 - 089 - GDG

Hey, didn't realize you were an SR-71 pilot, Dan. Man, that has to be fun! :-))

Jack


- Original Message -
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Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 6:41 AM
Subject: Re: PESO 2013 - 089 - GDG

Thanks, Jack.

If you don't think you could identify me from that photo, perhaps this
one is a bit more revealing:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14193193

Dan Matyola
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On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> Kind of like your personal gallery PPG photo, Dan. (HA)
>
> Jack
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Daniel J. Matyola 
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
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> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 6:11 AM
> Subject: Re: PESO 2013 - 089 - GDG
>
> Great moment.  A portrait without a face -- clever indeed.
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 2:58 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi
>  wrote:
>> A simple gesture that reveals.
>>
>>  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/9782231353/lightbox
>>
>> Thanks for looking. Comments always appreciated.
>>
>> Godfrey
>> --
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>>http://godfreydigiorgi.wordpress.com/
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Re: best pro lab for printing

Thanks Ann. Checking them out.

On Sep 17, 2013, at 10:23 AM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:

> Bay Photo - really gorgeous stuff
> 
> ann
> 
> On 9/17/2013 09:37, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> I have a customer who wants some prints that are larger than what I offer. 
>> (I can only print up to 13 x19.) I've done some of this before but can't 
>> recall what lab I used. I'm not overly concerned abut price; quality is 
>> paramount. Any recommendations?
>> 
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Re: best pro lab for printing

Customcolor.com seems to be more a multi-purpose printing and graphics house. 
Unless I'm missing something, they don't even provide information about photo 
printing on the website. 

Paul
On Sep 17, 2013, at 10:06 AM, Stan Halpin  wrote:

> 
> On Sep 17, 2013, at 9:37 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
> 
>> I have a customer who wants some prints that are larger than what I offer. 
>> (I can only print up to 13 x19.) I've done some of this before but can't 
>> recall what lab I used. I'm not overly concerned abut price; quality is 
>> paramount. Any recommendations?
>> 
>> Paul
>> -- 
> 
> I can second Darren's recommendation of MPIX - they are the ones linked to my 
> website, I've ordered a few prints of my own work from them.
> However, you might also consider http://www.customcolor.com
> They are a long-standing Kansas City institution catering to graphic artists 
> and professional photographers. I never had anything but top quality results 
> from them.
> 
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Re: OT: Useful Photography Tip #68


The article just tickled my funny bone. I fully expect "Useful
Photography Tip #69" to consist of "F8 and be there."

On 9/16/2013 7:22 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

I never heard of zone focusing as a term until you guys started bandying
it about..

I used to read photo mags a lot in the 70's and 80's but I never
actually took any courses whatsoever in photography or printing or
what not.. Never even read the Ansel bible... so how exactly does
"zone focusing" differ from what I did when looking only at the
barrel of my lens and making those critical numbers line up for
maximum depth of field while shooting fast enough (shooting TRI-X or
with the digital camera set at F 8 and 3 meters ? )

Or were you juat nailing the writer for explaing that manual focusing
for street shooting was good and we all know that anyway?

ann



On 9/16/2013 19:00, Larry Colen wrote:

On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 06:53:53PM -0400, Bruce Walker wrote:

In fairness to them, there are always new folks coming up the ladder
who haven't heard about what we may consider old hat.


But it lends a certain air of humor when they are editors and "correct"
authors who use the terms correctly.







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Re: OT: Fuji X-A1 announced: $599 with kit lens

On 17/9/13, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Heh! You'll have fun with it! :-)

One thing which I'm interested to see is that - at the moment if I shoot
my X10 in BW, I look through an optical viewfinder and see colour - just
like I did shooting FP4 in my MX years ago.

Now with the X-E1 I'll look through an EVF but will I see colour or BW
when shooting BW?

Apparently it needs a firmware update to enable focus-peaking which I am
really excited about - I know and use focus peaking every day with my
video, so am eager to try out the A*85/1.4 and nail the eyes

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Re: OT: 40 Detailed Close-Ups of Arthropods

2013-09-17 Thread Kenneth Waller

I love the inclusion of an unknown spider for identification purposes!


-Original Message-
>From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 
>Subject: OT: 40 Detailed Close-Ups of Arthropods
>
>http://twistedsifter.com/2013/09/the-most-detailed-close-ups-of-arthropods-ever/
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Camera Brand Pros & Cons

2013-09-17 Thread Bipin Gupta

Thought this might be interesting fodder for some. I find the
"analysis" lacking much depth however.

http://www.digitalcamerareview.com/default.asp?newsID=5404&news=what+brand+should+I+buy+into+market+analysis
A thought-less and absolutely generic article considering todays
advanced manufacturing techniques, computer aided designs, terrific
lens coatings and all kinds of exotic superior glass.
Almost all the manufacturers are as good as ever. It is just a choice
based on your childhood preferences or first buying choices as a
student. As a student I bought the (made in Japan) K1000 SE from
Oldens of New York on the 70s. And I stuck with Pentax even though I
still own a Leica Film SLR system, a Ricoh compact automatic film
camera, Panasonic standby digital P&S. I have also simultaneously
owned a Nikon FG and the Russian Kiev-19 that took Nikon lenses.
You then stick to that brand because of the inventory of lenses built
up over the years.
And that bit about the Pentax Kit Lens is nonsense. It IS the finest
Kit lens, especially the 18-55 ALII.
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Re: best pro lab for printing

They may have changed. They used to be the only place in town that dealt with 
medium format - processing, printing, drum scans, etc. And they did specialty 
work, e.g., the 3'x5' transparencies backlit for displays at the airport and in 
commercial settings. The favorite lab for Hallmark artists and photographers 
doing their own work away from their day job. If they do still take photo print 
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On Sep 17, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

> Customcolor.com seems to be more a multi-purpose printing and graphics house. 
> Unless I'm missing something, they don't even provide information about photo 
> printing on the website. 
> 
> Paul
> On Sep 17, 2013, at 10:06 AM, Stan Halpin  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Sep 17, 2013, at 9:37 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> 
>>> I have a customer who wants some prints that are larger than what I offer. 
>>> (I can only print up to 13 x19.) I've done some of this before but can't 
>>> recall what lab I used. I'm not overly concerned abut price; quality is 
>>> paramount. Any recommendations?
>>> 
>>> Paul
>>> -- 
>> 
>> I can second Darren's recommendation of MPIX - they are the ones linked to 
>> my website, I've ordered a few prints of my own work from them.
>> However, you might also consider http://www.customcolor.com
>> They are a long-standing Kansas City institution catering to graphic artists 
>> and professional photographers. I never had anything but top quality results 
>> from them.
>> 
>> stan
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Re: PESO - The Photographers


There are some times the kit lens comes in handy.

On 9/17/2013 7:55 AM, Brian Walters wrote:

G'day all

At the rate I'm going it will be this time next year before I finish
working on the photos from the USA trip...

Here's a shot of my sons at the Grand Canyon in April.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP1545-K5-1peso.html


That's Jeff on the left with his Nikon D90 and Chris on the right with
his K20D.

As an aside, Chris got so sick of constantly setting up the tripod and
swapping lenses on and off the camera that he sold his K20 kit
(including a 10-17mm fisheye and 60-250mm zoom) and replaced the lot
with a Fuji X100S - reckons it's the best thing he's ever done.  Pentax
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Re:Ammutinamenti 2013 (Sat. 14)

Eclectic,electric & exciting. I enjoyed looking at your excellent coverage.

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Here you'll find a gallery of pics I took at the festival on Saturday:
http://www.festivalammutinamenti.org/2013/2013/09/16/14-settembre-2013-2/
No pics were staged there; all seen and shot while dancers were stretching
(daytime) or performing (nighttime). I have to say that fisheye is fun!
Dario

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Re: OT: Useful Photography Tip #68

2013-09-17 Thread David J Brooks

On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 4:38 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:

-"zone focusing".

Focusing, we don't need no stinking focusing

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Re: PDML Digest, Vol 89, Issue 150


A revealing portrait indeed. Lovely.

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Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 23:58:35 -0700
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A simple gesture that reveals.

   http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/9782231353/lightbox

Thanks for looking. Comments always appreciated.

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Re: OT: Fuji X-A1 announced: $599 with kit lens


Well, wouldn't that be cool.


On 9/17/2013 10:33 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 17/9/13, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:


Heh! You'll have fun with it! :-)

One thing which I'm interested to see is that - at the moment if I shoot
my X10 in BW, I look through an optical viewfinder and see colour - just
like I did shooting FP4 in my MX years ago.

Now with the X-E1 I'll look through an EVF but will I see colour or BW
when shooting BW?

Apparently it needs a firmware update to enable focus-peaking which I am
really excited about - I know and use focus peaking every day with my
video, so am eager to try out the A*85/1.4 and nail the eyes




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Re: What's next?

2013-09-17 Thread Matthew Hunt

On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 10:46 AM, John  wrote:

> Isn't there some big camera show in Germany in October/November?

There's Photokina in September, but it's every other year, and this ain't it.

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Re: GESO - Ammutinamenti 2013 (Sat. 14)


Did you find a way to go from one image to the next? The only way I
could do it was click on an image and then use the browser's back button
to return to the index.

On 9/17/2013 9:59 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Yes, Dario, I saw two full pages and then a few images on a third
page.  It was easy to go from page to page, but I had trouble going
from one image to the next on the same page.  It wasn't that bad ,
but I thought I should mention it.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Dario Bonazza
 wrote:

Thanks Dan. Have you seen pages 2 and 3 too? Unfortunately, that's not my
own gallery (it's the one of the event organization) and I have no control
on how the pics are on display there. Perhaps one day I'll setup a gallery
of mine with those pictures.
Dario

-Messaggio originale- From: Daniel J. Matyola
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 3:08 PM

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Subject: Re: GESO - Ammutinamenti 2013 (Sat. 14)

That is a truly impressive gallery, Dario!  Great color and wonderful
execution with the fisheye lens.

I found it a bit difficult to navigate through the images, however.
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 2:44 AM, Dario Bonazza

 wrote:


Here you'll find a gallery of pics I took at the festival on Saturday:
http://www.festivalammutinamenti.org/2013/2013/09/16/14-settembre-2013-2/
No pics were staged there; all seen and shot while dancers were stretching
(daytime) or performing (nighttime). I have to say that fisheye is fun!
Dario

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Re: OT: Fuji X-A1 announced: $599 with kit lens

On 17/9/13, Chris Mitchell, discombobulated, unleashed:

>B&W in the viewfinder. But if you shoot raw I guess the colour's there
>for post-processing if you need it.

Aha! Interesting.

>Well, it works - but it would be interesting to hear from you how it
>compares to the video stuff.

Bear in mind the EVF is twice the pixels of the X-Pro 1 I gather...

>
>There's firmware the some of the lenses too so don't forget to update
>that if applicable for yours.

Ahar. Will cogitate on possible future lens purchase...possibly 14mm.

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Re: GESO - Ammutinamenti 2013 (Sat. 14)

No, no! There are arrows forward/backward under each picture!
Dario

-Messaggio originale- 
From: John

Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 5:03 PM
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Subject: Re: GESO - Ammutinamenti 2013 (Sat. 14)

Did you find a way to go from one image to the next? The only way I
could do it was click on an image and then use the browser's back button
to return to the index.

On 9/17/2013 9:59 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Yes, Dario, I saw two full pages and then a few images on a third
page.  It was easy to go from page to page, but I had trouble going
from one image to the next on the same page.  It wasn't that bad ,
but I thought I should mention it.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Dario Bonazza
 wrote:

Thanks Dan. Have you seen pages 2 and 3 too? Unfortunately, that's not my
own gallery (it's the one of the event organization) and I have no 
control
on how the pics are on display there. Perhaps one day I'll setup a 
gallery

of mine with those pictures.
Dario

-Messaggio originale- From: Daniel J. Matyola
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 3:08 PM

To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: GESO - Ammutinamenti 2013 (Sat. 14)

That is a truly impressive gallery, Dario!  Great color and wonderful
execution with the fisheye lens.

I found it a bit difficult to navigate through the images, however.
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 2:44 AM, Dario Bonazza

 wrote:

Here you'll find a gallery of pics I took at the festival on Saturday:
http://www.festivalammutinamenti.org/2013/2013/09/16/14-settembre-2013-2/
No pics were staged there; all seen and shot while dancers were 
stretching

(daytime) or performing (nighttime). I have to say that fisheye is fun!
Dario

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Re: What's next?


Isn't there some big camera show in Germany in October/November?

On 9/17/2013 5:34 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

Prices on the K-5 II are plummeting. I think that we are getting pretty
close to the next big announcment.  I'm going to take some guesses.

1) When you look at cameras that Ricoh and Pentax have produced lately:
GXR, Q, K-01, and even the K-5,50,500  you have a collection of
cameras where the company is not afraid to take a chance on something
different.  I would be very surprised if the next camera is a "me too"
DSLR.

2) Each of the recent Pentax bodies has interesting mirrorless features.
DSLR, or mirrorless, it will have a strong mirrorless mode, with focus
peaking.

3) Mirror or mirroless, it will keep the K-mount.  They just updated the
DA limiteds.  They *could* be for just the current line up, but a radical
departure in camera mount seems out of character.  If you look at the
percentage of Pentax sales to return customers (the only ones who know
who Pentax is), a radical change in lens mount would be shooting themselves
in the foot, because that would negate the biggest reason for many
of their customers to not change to Nikon or Canon.

Remember that wide angle lens that they showed, but didn't talk about
at the show where they released the K-01?  The one where the rear element
extended into the mirrorbox?  Either the camera will be a high end, K-mount
mirrorless, or it will have a mode where you can lock the mirror up, and
use lenses that extend into the mirrorbox.  If I could lock the mirror
up on my 1968 SRT-101, they should be able to do the same on a modern
DSLR.

4) I'd say it's an 80% chance that it will be APS, not 24x36 sensor.
Note that they released new versions of DA limiteds, not FA limiteds.
I'll guess that the sensor will be 24-30 MP, and the per-pixel performance
will be at least a stop better than the K-5 (at 1.5 - 2 times the resolution).

I suspect that there will be non-retrofocus wide angle lenses, and the system
will have overall performance that will rival the D800 and 5DmkIII, at a
significantly lower price.

I think that the flagship, if APS will list for $2,000. If 24x36 will list
for $2,400.

5) It will be weather sealed, with in body shake reduction.

6) I think that if it has a mirror, they will add focus points, but not
enough of them.

7) I think that they will drop the K-5, but keep the K50 and 500.
  If they do keep the K-5II, the list price would need to drop to
at, or below the cost of the K-50.

8) I'd say 80% chance that it will not have an anti-aliasing filter
over the sensor.

9) There will be much gnashing of teeth, rending of shirts and pulling
of hair because it will not be just a 24x36 version of the K-5 with 40
autofocus points.  A lot of those people will at that point sell off
their pentax gear and buy a full frame canikon.  Very few of them
will get photos that are technically superior to what they would have
gotten if they had stayed with Pentax.

Why not full frame?  Look at the new u4/3 cameras. Their sensors are
half the area of APS, and the sensor performance of the top end
u 4/3 cameras are getting close to that of the K-5.

I think that the camera will likely be announced close to the beginning
of November (unless there is a big camera show before then), just in
time for the holiday wishlists.




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Re: OT: speaking of computer tales of woe...

2013-09-17 Thread Steve Sharpe


At 10:16 AM -0400 9/17/13, John wrote:

Well, I learned something. I didn't know Apple still had local
independent retailers.


There are two in Halifax, though I wonder how much longer the one I 
went to will survive.


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Re: best pro lab for printing

2013-09-17 Thread Tom C

Darren wrote:
>
> What you need to know begins and ends with MPIX.
> http://www.mpix.com
>
> The are the digital arm of Miller's Professional Imaging, who was (and
> continues to be) a superb film lab serving professionals.
>

I'll second that. I've had very good results with them. The one time I
had a QC issue was with a 20 x 30 mounted and framed print. The print
was lifting from the backing and appeared rippled. They asked for a
picture so they could see the problem. Next day I had a brand new one
at my door, free, no shipping, and was told no need to return the
defective one. That was a fairly high priced item especially with next
day Fedex.

I received a 25% off discount code just today. SALE2013

Tom C.

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Re: Camera Brand Pros & Cons

It's a thoughtless generic article because the target audience are 
thoughtless generic people.


On 9/17/2013 10:40 AM, Bipin Gupta wrote:

Thought this might be interesting fodder for some. I find the
"analysis" lacking much depth however.

http://www.digitalcamerareview.com/default.asp?newsID=5404&news=what+brand+should+I+buy+into+market+analysis
A thought-less and absolutely generic article considering todays
advanced manufacturing techniques, computer aided designs, terrific
lens coatings and all kinds of exotic superior glass.
Almost all the manufacturers are as good as ever. It is just a choice
based on your childhood preferences or first buying choices as a
student. As a student I bought the (made in Japan) K1000 SE from
Oldens of New York on the 70s. And I stuck with Pentax even though I
still own a Leica Film SLR system, a Ricoh compact automatic film
camera, Panasonic standby digital P&S. I have also simultaneously
owned a Nikon FG and the Russian Kiev-19 that took Nikon lenses.
You then stick to that brand because of the inventory of lenses built
up over the years.
And that bit about the Pentax Kit Lens is nonsense. It IS the finest
Kit lens, especially the 18-55 ALII.
Regards.
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Re: PDML Digest, Vol 89, Issue 151

Well that put me off my breakfast.

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Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 08:56:37 -0400
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

http://twistedsifter.com/2013/09/the-most-detailed-close-ups-of-arthropods-ever/

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Re: What's next?

2013-09-17 Thread Mark Roberts

Matthew Hunt  wrote:

>On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 10:46 AM, John  wrote:
>
>> Isn't there some big camera show in Germany in October/November?
>
>There's Photokina in September, but it's every other year, and this ain't it.

Also, Pentax rarely announces new cameras at trade shows. New product
tends to be announced as soon as it's ready, whether that comes just
before, just after or nowhere near a photo trade show.

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Re: best pro lab for printing

Yep. Bay photo looks like the winner. I priced out some metallic prints for my 
customer. 

Thanks,
Paul
On Sep 17, 2013, at 10:16 AM, Kenneth Waller  wrote:

> Paul, I've had outstanding results with Bay Photo. They've done several jobs 
> for me including a 4 foot by 3 foot print. They've been very good with their 
> timing and care in shipping.
> 
> I don't think you can go wrong with them.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
>> From: Paul Stenquist 
>> Subject: best pro lab for printing
>> 
>> I have a customer who wants some prints that are larger than what I offer. 
>> (I can only print up to 13 x19.) I've done some of this before but can't 
>> recall what lab I used. I'm not overly concerned abut price; quality is 
>> paramount. Any recommendations?
>> 
>> Paul
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Re: best pro lab for printing

2013-09-17 Thread Rick Womer

I have been very happy with Denver Digital Imaging (www.slideprinter.com).  
They have several different grades of print.  All of them use the embedded 
profile, and the prints consistently come back matching almost exactly what is 
on my monitor.

Rick
 
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I have a customer who wants some prints that are larger than what I offer. (I 
can only print up to 13 x19.) I've done some of this before but can't recall 
what lab I used. I'm not overly concerned abut price; quality is paramount. Any 
recommendations?

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Re: best pro lab for printing

They probably stopped doing photo work. Our local pro lab, Meteor,  is now  
just a graphics studio and custom display printer as well. More money in that I 
guess.

But thanks for the suggestion.

Paul
On Sep 17, 2013, at 10:35 AM, Stan Halpin  wrote:

> They may have changed. They used to be the only place in town that dealt with 
> medium format - processing, printing, drum scans, etc. And they did specialty 
> work, e.g., the 3'x5' transparencies backlit for displays at the airport and 
> in commercial settings. The favorite lab for Hallmark artists and 
> photographers doing their own work away from their day job. If they do still 
> take photo print jobs, the quality would be as good as it gets.
> 
> stan
> 
> On Sep 17, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
> 
>> Customcolor.com seems to be more a multi-purpose printing and graphics 
>> house. Unless I'm missing something, they don't even provide information 
>> about photo printing on the website. 
>> 
>> Paul
>> On Sep 17, 2013, at 10:06 AM, Stan Halpin  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sep 17, 2013, at 9:37 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>>> 
 I have a customer who wants some prints that are larger than what I offer. 
 (I can only print up to 13 x19.) I've done some of this before but can't 
 recall what lab I used. I'm not overly concerned abut price; quality is 
 paramount. Any recommendations?
 
 Paul
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>>> I can second Darren's recommendation of MPIX - they are the ones linked to 
>>> my website, I've ordered a few prints of my own work from them.
>>> However, you might also consider http://www.customcolor.com
>>> They are a long-standing Kansas City institution catering to graphic 
>>> artists and professional photographers. I never had anything but top 
>>> quality results from them.
>>> 
>>> stan
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: OT: Fuji X-A1 announced: $599 with kit lens

2013-09-17 Thread Chris Mitchell

>
> One thing which I'm interested to see is that - at the moment if I shoot
> my X10 in BW, I look through an optical viewfinder and see colour - just
> like I did shooting FP4 in my MX years ago.
>
> Now with the X-E1 I'll look through an EVF but will I see colour or BW
> when shooting BW?

B&W in the viewfinder. But if you shoot raw I guess the colour's there
for post-processing if you need it.

> Apparently it needs a firmware update to enable focus-peaking which I am
> really excited about - I know and use focus peaking every day with my
> video, so am eager to try out the A*85/1.4 and nail the eyes
>

Well, it works - but it would be interesting to hear from you how it
compares to the video stuff.

There's firmware the some of the lenses too so don't forget to update
that if applicable for yours.

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Re: What's next?

2013-09-17 Thread John Celio

Mark Roberts  wrote:
> Matthew Hunt  wrote:
>
>>On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 10:46 AM, John  wrote:
>>
>>> Isn't there some big camera show in Germany in October/November?
>>
>>There's Photokina in September, but it's every other year, and this ain't it.
>
> Also, Pentax rarely announces new cameras at trade shows. New product
> tends to be announced as soon as it's ready, whether that comes just
> before, just after or nowhere near a photo trade show.

Yeah, but that was when Pentax was on its own or owned by Hoya. Ricoh
seems to have exerted a lot more control over the brand recently, so
now we have to take their announcement habits into account. When does
Ricoh usually announce new stuff?

John

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Re: PESO 2013 - 089 - GDG

2013-09-17 Thread Bruce

I love the tonality in this shot.  A wonderful shot!

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On Sep 16, 2013, at 11:58 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:

> A simple gesture that reveals.
> 
>  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/9782231353/lightbox
> 
> Thanks for looking. Comments always appreciated. 
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Re: PESO Gold in that there dome

On 17/9/13, Don Guthrie, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Took a tour of state capital this weekend. Thought I might share this 
>1st photo I took. I will post some more soon. C&C etc.
>
http://donspix.smugmug.com/Architecture/Buildings-Architecture/i-fcHBZ4h/
0/L/Iowa%20State%20Capital%20Building%20%2026820-L.jpg



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Re: What's next?


So, no change then.

On 9/17/2013 1:08 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

Seemingly when it pleases them to.

Godfrey


On Sep 17, 2013, at 9:17 AM, John Celio  wrote:


Yeah, but that was when Pentax was on its own or owned by Hoya. Ricoh
seems to have exerted a lot more control over the brand recently, so
now we have to take their announcement habits into account. When does
Ricoh usually announce new stuff?



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GESO - Ammutinamenti 2013 (Mon. 16)


A smaller gallery here, for a much simpler performance last night:
http://www.festivalammutinamenti.org/2013/en/2013/09/17/16-settembre-2013-2/
It is interesting that I had to go as high as ISO 30,000 trying to "freeze" 
the action enough for getting the jump on last picture.

Dario


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Re: Re:Ammutinamenti 2013 (Sat. 14)


Thanks Don,
Then you'll probably like more galleries, as they show up (and more to come) 
here:

http://www.festivalammutinamenti.org/2013/en/category/photo-video-gallery/
Dario

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Eclectic,electric & exciting. I enjoyed looking at your excellent coverage.

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Here you'll find a gallery of pics I took at the festival on Saturday:
http://www.festivalammutinamenti.org/2013/2013/09/16/14-settembre-2013-2/
No pics were staged there; all seen and shot while dancers were stretching
(daytime) or performing (nighttime). I have to say that fisheye is fun!
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Re: OT: 40 Detailed Close-Ups of Arthropods

2013-09-17 Thread Bob Sullivan

A truly lush set of photographs.

On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 11:45 AM, mike wilson  wrote:
> On 17/09/2013, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
>> http://twistedsifter.com/2013/09/the-most-detailed-close-ups-of-arthropods-ever/
>>
>
>
> I like them but wouldn't call them "the most detailed".  Electron
> microscopy would deserve that title.
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> Also, I would think that this page is more of a PDML remit.
> http://twistedsifter.com/2010/06/alcoholic-art-liquor-under-a-microscope/
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Re: OT: 40 Detailed Close-Ups of Arthropods

2013-09-17 Thread mike wilson

On 17/09/2013, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> http://twistedsifter.com/2013/09/the-most-detailed-close-ups-of-arthropods-ever/
>

I like them but wouldn't call them "the most detailed".  Electron
microscopy would deserve that title.

Also, I would think that this page is more of a PDML remit.
http://twistedsifter.com/2010/06/alcoholic-art-liquor-under-a-microscope/

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PESO Gold in that there dome

Took a tour of state capital this weekend. Thought I might share this 
1st photo I took. I will post some more soon. C&C etc.


http://donspix.smugmug.com/Architecture/Buildings-Architecture/i-fcHBZ4h/0/L/Iowa%20State%20Capital%20Building%20%2026820-L.jpg

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Re: OT: Useful Photography Tip #68


On 9/16/2013 8:15 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:



On 9/16/2013 19:36, Larry Colen wrote:

On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 07:22:53PM -0400, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

I never heard of zone focusing as a term until you guys started
bandying it about..


I don't think I made the term up.  I'm pretty sure that I've heard
it before.


I didn't think you had - I was just thinking it might have been
a more recent term..


But I needed something to describe pre-focusing on a range of
distances, the zone in which what you want to photograph may
be in.



I used to read photo mags a lot in the 70's and 80's but I never
actually took any courses whatsoever in photography or printing or
what not.. Never even read the Ansel bible... so how exactly does
"zone focusing" differ from what I did when looking only at the
barrel of my lens and making those critical numbers line up for
maximum depth of field while shooting fast enough (shooting TRI-X or
with the digital camera set at F 8 and 3 meters ? )


That's pretty much it.  You needed to do it a lot more with a
rangefinder because you couldn't focus it fast enough to get the shot.

I never had used a rangefinder.. The idea of having it set was that you
didn't have to lift the camera to your eye to get a shot - which would
tip off the subjects you were taking your photo.  OR shooting, as I 
said earlier, from a moving vehicle




Or were you juat nailing the writer for explaing that manual
focusing for street shooting was good and we all know that anyway?


I don't know why it was originally posted, but I ran into his
using "hyperfocal distance", which has a specific meaning. I.e.
zone focusing that just exactly extends to infinity, for zone
focusing, which doesn't extend to infinity.  Kind of like using
Greenwich Village to refer to all of New York City.

I would say that you had to reverse that line to make that work :-)


I used the hyperfocal distance setting (in my sense of it) downward as 
well.. so things would be in focus from very near to maybe 15 feet away.

ann


That's zone focusing, hyperfocal distance is related but different, in 
that it's special.








On 9/16/2013 19:00, Larry Colen wrote:

On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 06:53:53PM -0400, Bruce Walker wrote:

In fairness to them, there are always new folks coming up the ladder
who haven't heard about what we may consider old hat.


But it lends a certain air of humor when they are editors and 
"correct"

authors who use the terms correctly.





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Re: GESO - Ammutinamenti 2013 (Mon. 16)

2013-09-17 Thread Bob Sullivan

Dario,
These galleries are different and exciting.
Congratulations.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Dario Bonazza
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> A smaller gallery here, for a much simpler performance last night:
> http://www.festivalammutinamenti.org/2013/en/2013/09/17/16-settembre-2013-2/
> It is interesting that I had to go as high as ISO 30,000 trying to "freeze"
> the action enough for getting the jump on last picture.
> Dario
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Re: PESO Gold in that there dome

2013-09-17 Thread Zos Xavius

Really nice composition and detail. I wouldn't do a thing differently. :)

On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Don Guthrie  wrote:
> Took a tour of state capital this weekend. Thought I might share this 1st
> photo I took. I will post some more soon. C&C etc.
>
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Re: OT: Useful Photography Tip #68


On 9/16/2013 8:08 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

On Sep 16, 2013, at 7:36 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:


On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 07:22:53PM -0400, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

I never heard of zone focusing as a term until you guys started
bandying it about..

I don't think I made the term up.  I'm pretty sure that I've heard
it before.

But I needed something to describe pre-focusing on a range of
distances, the zone in which what you want to photograph may
be in.


It's a common term, and I would define it as you have done. You select an 
aperture and a focus point. All that is within the DOF range is in the focus 
zone.

Paul


Some cameras, even those that were moderately sophisticated, and fairly 
expensive had only zone focusing, a number of mid to high end Polaroids 
without rangefinders come immediately to mind.



I used to read photo mags a lot in the 70's and 80's but I never
actually took any courses whatsoever in photography or printing or
what not.. Never even read the Ansel bible... so how exactly does
"zone focusing" differ from what I did when looking only at the
barrel of my lens and making those critical numbers line up for
maximum depth of field while shooting fast enough (shooting TRI-X or
with the digital camera set at F 8 and 3 meters ? )

That's pretty much it.  You needed to do it a lot more with a
rangefinder because you couldn't focus it fast enough to get the shot.


Or were you juat nailing the writer for explaing that manual
focusing for street shooting was good and we all know that anyway?

I don't know why it was originally posted, but I ran into his
using "hyperfocal distance", which has a specific meaning. I.e.
zone focusing that just exactly extends to infinity, for zone
focusing, which doesn't extend to infinity.  Kind of like using
Greenwich Village to refer to all of New York City.



ann



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On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 06:53:53PM -0400, Bruce Walker wrote:

In fairness to them, there are always new folks coming up the ladder
who haven't heard about what we may consider old hat.

But it lends a certain air of humor when they are editors and "correct"
authors who use the terms correctly.




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Re: What's next?

2013-09-17 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

Seemingly when it pleases them to. 

Godfrey


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> Yeah, but that was when Pentax was on its own or owned by Hoya. Ricoh
> seems to have exerted a lot more control over the brand recently, so
> now we have to take their announcement habits into account. When does
> Ricoh usually announce new stuff?

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Re: OT: Useful Photography Tip #68

I'm not going to be fair.

This guy doesn't deserve fair.

At the very least he should include a caveat that the f stop markings on
the distance scale are approximate and based on an acceptable CoC,
(circle of confusion), for 35mm film, which will lead to very different,
mostly Out of Focus results on APS-C and even more OOF on m4:3 sensor
cameras, so some modification of the settings is desirable, (say
stopping down an additional 1 1/2 stops for APS-C and 2 stops for 4/3
and m43 cameras).

There was that so hard? Now if I were writing for his audience, I'd
probably leave out any mention of CoC, except as a footnote, and
describe stopping up and down effects in a bit more detail

He also completely missed the difference between using hyperfocal
distance and zone focusing, which deserves an explanation and
examination based on the subject matter.

He manages to put so much fail into just a few short paragraphs that the
mind boggles. Yet, there is no excuse for it. If this were a newspaper
I could understand space constraints, but in a blog post a few well
written words of explanation don't take up enough space to worry about.

On 9/16/2013 6:53 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

In fairness to them, there are always new folks coming up the ladder
who haven't heard about what we may consider old hat.

On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 3:38 PM, John wrote:

I kid you not!

http://www.thephoblographer.com/2013/09/15/useful-photography-tip-68-using-a-manual-focus-lens-for-street-photography/

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Re: What's next?

2013-09-17 Thread Attila Boros

On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 7:17 PM, John Celio
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> Yeah, but that was when Pentax was on its own or owned by Hoya. Ricoh
> seems to have exerted a lot more control over the brand recently, so
> now we have to take their announcement habits into account. When does
> Ricoh usually announce new stuff?

Good point! The Theta was recently announced:
https://theta360.com/en/info/news/2013-09-05/
The Ricoh GR was announced in April. Can't see any pattern.

I think the new camera will be 24MP APS-C. Probably same sensor as SLT-A77.
- next version of SAFOX
- more AF points
- new image processor
- focus peaking

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Re: PESO Gold in that there dome

2013-09-17 Thread Attila Boros

Big like!

On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 8:12 PM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> On 17/9/13, Don Guthrie, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>Took a tour of state capital this weekend. Thought I might share this
>>1st photo I took. I will post some more soon. C&C etc.
>>
> http://donspix.smugmug.com/Architecture/Buildings-Architecture/i-fcHBZ4h/
> 0/L/Iowa%20State%20Capital%20Building%20%2026820-L.jpg
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> That's really nice Don.
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Re: GESO - Ammutinamenti 2013 (Sat. 14)

2013-09-17 Thread Chris Mitchell

Excellent use of close-ups with the fisheye Dario - and a nice Fender
moment on the last page.

Chris

On 17 September 2013 07:44, Dario Bonazza  wrote:
> Here you'll find a gallery of pics I took at the festival on Saturday:
> http://www.festivalammutinamenti.org/2013/2013/09/16/14-settembre-2013-2/
> No pics were staged there; all seen and shot while dancers were stretching
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> Dario
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10 day shutter speed

2013-09-17 Thread David J Brooks

http://all-that-is-interesting.com/important-image-captured-by-hubble#Q85qvCpzcZ4Y23bS.01

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Re: PESO 2013 - 089 - GDG

Nah, no SR-71.  I flew in the back seat of the old F-4B Phantoms.  It
could do Mach 2 and get up over 60, feet, so it was a lot of fun
-- as long as no one was shooting at it.

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On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 10:28 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> Hey, didn't realize you were an SR-71 pilot, Dan. Man, that has to be fun! 
> :-))
>
> Jack
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Daniel J. Matyola 
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> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 6:41 AM
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>
> Thanks, Jack.
>
> If you don't think you could identify me from that photo, perhaps this
> one is a bit more revealing:
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14193193
> 
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>> Kind of like your personal gallery PPG photo, Dan. (HA)
>>
>> Jack
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Daniel J. Matyola 
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>> Cc:
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 6:11 AM
>> Subject: Re: PESO 2013 - 089 - GDG
>>
>> Great moment.  A portrait without a face -- clever indeed.
>> Dan Matyola
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 2:58 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi
>>  wrote:
>>> A simple gesture that reveals.
>>>
>>>  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/9782231353/lightbox
>>>
>>> Thanks for looking. Comments always appreciated.
>>>
>>> Godfrey
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Re: GESO - Ammutinamenti 2013 (Sat. 14)


Thanks Chris.
Going to the festival again within one hour or so. We'll see what will turn 
out.

Dario

-Messaggio originale- 
From: Chris Mitchell

Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 7:35 PM
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Excellent use of close-ups with the fisheye Dario - and a nice Fender
moment on the last page.

Chris

On 17 September 2013 07:44, Dario Bonazza  wrote:

Here you'll find a gallery of pics I took at the festival on Saturday:
http://www.festivalammutinamenti.org/2013/2013/09/16/14-settembre-2013-2/
No pics were staged there; all seen and shot while dancers were stretching
(daytime) or performing (nighttime). I have to say that fisheye is fun!
Dario

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Re: GESO - Ammutinamenti 2013 (Sat. 14)

I had the same problem as John.  The arrows are well hidden, then.
The only arrow I could see were the double arrows that go from one
page to another, not from one image to another
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On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Dario Bonazza
 wrote:
> No, no! There are arrows forward/backward under each picture!
> Dario
>
> -Messaggio originale- From: John
> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 5:03 PM
>
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: GESO - Ammutinamenti 2013 (Sat. 14)
>
> Did you find a way to go from one image to the next? The only way I
> could do it was click on an image and then use the browser's back button
> to return to the index.
>
> On 9/17/2013 9:59 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>>
>> Yes, Dario, I saw two full pages and then a few images on a third
>> page.  It was easy to go from page to page, but I had trouble going
>> from one image to the next on the same page.  It wasn't that bad ,
>> but I thought I should mention it.
>>
>> Dan Matyola
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Dario Bonazza
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks Dan. Have you seen pages 2 and 3 too? Unfortunately, that's not my
>>> own gallery (it's the one of the event organization) and I have no
>>> control
>>> on how the pics are on display there. Perhaps one day I'll setup a
>>> gallery
>>> of mine with those pictures.
>>> Dario
>>>
>>> -Messaggio originale- From: Daniel J. Matyola
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 3:08 PM
>>>
>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>>> Subject: Re: GESO - Ammutinamenti 2013 (Sat. 14)
>>>
>>> That is a truly impressive gallery, Dario!  Great color and wonderful
>>> execution with the fisheye lens.
>>>
>>> I found it a bit difficult to navigate through the images, however.
>>> Dan Matyola
>>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 2:44 AM, Dario Bonazza
>>>
>>>  wrote:


 Here you'll find a gallery of pics I took at the festival on Saturday:

 http://www.festivalammutinamenti.org/2013/2013/09/16/14-settembre-2013-2/
 No pics were staged there; all seen and shot while dancers were
 stretching
 (daytime) or performing (nighttime). I have to say that fisheye is fun!
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Re: What's next?

On Sep 17, 2013, at 11:24 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

> Matthew Hunt  wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 10:46 AM, John  wrote:
>> 
>>> Isn't there some big camera show in Germany in October/November?
>> 
>> There's Photokina in September, but it's every other year, and this ain't it.
> 
> Also, Pentax rarely announces new cameras at trade shows. New product
> tends to be announced as soon as it's ready, whether that comes just
> before, just after or nowhere near a photo trade show.
> 

They seem to be getting less precise in their announcements. Remember the 
spring announcement of the new 360 and 540 flashes? Followed up in August with 
an "available in September" notice? The Ricoh site has them available for 
preorder. The B&H site has them available for preorder. The Adorama site has 
them available now. I didn't believe Adorama, called, pushed for verification 
that they had them in stock. Finally got an admission that they don't have them 
in yet, are expecting availability maybe in October. I don't know if it is a 
production or a supply-chain issue, but I preferred it when an "available in x 
month" notice was usually accurate. 

stan

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Re: PESO Gold in that there dome

Neat rendering of the interesting architectural details.

Dan Matyola
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On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Don Guthrie  wrote:
> Took a tour of state capital this weekend. Thought I might share this 1st
> photo I took. I will post some more soon. C&C etc.
>
> http://donspix.smugmug.com/Architecture/Buildings-Architecture/i-fcHBZ4h/0/L/Iowa%20State%20Capital%20Building%20%2026820-L.jpg
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Re: What's next?

I already predicted what I expected to see last spring, but what the 
heck, I expect that Ricoh will announce, a 24mp camera either a K-3 with 
a FF frame with K-5II specifications in all other ways, or a 24mp APS-C 
K-5III with even more improved focusing, and a nod to improving the 
flash system. I have no idea what the FF camera will look like but I'm 
rather hoping this. 


I think everyone who sees an improved mirrorless camera say a K-02 with 
an actual EVF, is whistling in the wind.  Pentax is going to build on Q 
line and that's where Pentax mirrorless will stay for the time being.


Pentax practically invented the modern unibody eye level SLR with the 
instant return mirror, and pentaprism.  They see themselves as an 
optical house, (and I doubt that's changed now that they're a division 
of Ricoh) and there are now three levels of Pentax DSLR all of them 
share the same 100% coverage optical viewfinder which is a selling point 
I seldom see mentioned.  Abandoning the Pentaprism would be like 
abandoning their soul.


If against all odds Ricoh actually releases three new cameras in the 
coming months, (well five since yes I agree that there will both plain 
vanilla versions and extra sexy without AA filters and maybe multiple 
colors just to be annoying).  I expect that there might be an announced 
645D II with a much higher pixel count and an almost FF 645 sensor, as 
well as the two afore mentioned cameras.


There's some argument that that could be made that the APS-C cameras 
might have a 20mp sensor instead of a 24mp.  Sony has a very nice 20mp 
Exmor sensor that Pentax could use, but using the same image in pixels 
probably would allow co-development of both hardware and firmware 
between the FF and APS-C bodies.  Pentax is known for this kind of 
development.  I expect that using the same Pentaprism in all their APS-C 
bodies also saves quite a bit of money in manufacture.


On 9/17/2013 5:34 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

Prices on the K-5 II are plummeting. I think that we are getting pretty
close to the next big announcment.  I'm going to take some guesses.

1) When you look at cameras that Ricoh and Pentax have produced lately:
GXR, Q, K-01, and even the K-5,50,500  you have a collection of
cameras where the company is not afraid to take a chance on something
different.  I would be very surprised if the next camera is a "me too"
DSLR.

2) Each of the recent Pentax bodies has interesting mirrorless features.
DSLR, or mirrorless, it will have a strong mirrorless mode, with focus
peaking.

3) Mirror or mirroless, it will keep the K-mount.  They just updated the
DA limiteds.  They *could* be for just the current line up, but a radical
departure in camera mount seems out of character.  If you look at the
percentage of Pentax sales to return customers (the only ones who know
who Pentax is), a radical change in lens mount would be shooting themselves
in the foot, because that would negate the biggest reason for many
of their customers to not change to Nikon or Canon.

Remember that wide angle lens that they showed, but didn't talk about
at the show where they released the K-01?  The one where the rear element
extended into the mirrorbox?  Either the camera will be a high end, K-mount
mirrorless, or it will have a mode where you can lock the mirror up, and
use lenses that extend into the mirrorbox.  If I could lock the mirror
up on my 1968 SRT-101, they should be able to do the same on a modern
DSLR.

4) I'd say it's an 80% chance that it will be APS, not 24x36 sensor.
Note that they released new versions of DA limiteds, not FA limiteds.
I'll guess that the sensor will be 24-30 MP, and the per-pixel performance
will be at least a stop better than the K-5 (at 1.5 - 2 times the resolution).

I suspect that there will be non-retrofocus wide angle lenses, and the system
will have overall performance that will rival the D800 and 5DmkIII, at a
significantly lower price.

I think that the flagship, if APS will list for $2,000. If 24x36 will list
for $2,400.

5) It will be weather sealed, with in body shake reduction.

6) I think that if it has a mirror, they will add focus points, but not
enough of them.

7) I think that they will drop the K-5, but keep the K50 and 500.
  If they do keep the K-5II, the list price would need to drop to
at, or below the cost of the K-50.

8) I'd say 80% chance that it will not have an anti-aliasing filter
over the sensor.

9) There will be much gnashing of teeth, rending of shirts and pulling
of hair because it will not be just a 24x36 version of the K-5 with 40
autofocus points.  A lot of those people will at that point sell off
their pentax gear and buy a full frame canikon.  Very few of them
will get photos that are technically superior to what they would have
gotten if they had stayed with Pentax.

Why not full frame?  Look at the new u4/3 cameras. Their sensors are
half the area of APS, and the sensor performance of the top end
u

Re: What's next?

Based on their practice from the last few years, I expect that they will 
announce a major new camera just after the Christmas buying season.


On 9/17/2013 11:24 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Matthew Hunt  wrote:


On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 10:46 AM, John  wrote:


Isn't there some big camera show in Germany in October/November?

There's Photokina in September, but it's every other year, and this ain't it.

Also, Pentax rarely announces new cameras at trade shows. New product
tends to be announced as soon as it's ready, whether that comes just
before, just after or nowhere near a photo trade show.




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Re: GESO - Ammutinamenti 2013 (Mon. 16)


Thanks Bob!
Dario

-Messaggio originale- 
From: Bob Sullivan

Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 7:23 PM
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Subject: Re: GESO - Ammutinamenti 2013 (Mon. 16)

Dario,
These galleries are different and exciting.
Congratulations.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Dario Bonazza
 wrote:

A smaller gallery here, for a much simpler performance last night:
http://www.festivalammutinamenti.org/2013/en/2013/09/17/16-settembre-2013-2/
It is interesting that I had to go as high as ISO 30,000 trying to 
"freeze"

the action enough for getting the jump on last picture.
Dario


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