GESO 2013 - Key Party 3 - GDG

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Last Saturday was the third anniversary of obtaining the keys to the our condo. 
We decided to have a little party to celebrate. And I decided to do Polaroid 
portraits to document our guests. :-)

The full set of eight Polaroids is available here: 

  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/sets/72157635869483085/
  
Thanks for looking! Enjoy! 

Godfrey
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Re: Slide Scanner?

[P.J. Alling]

If you can find one, the Benq ScanWit 2720s or 2740s (formerly Acer), is 
a budget film scanner that gives amazingly good results, especially so 
for not having Nikon, or Minolta on it's nameplate. I can't remember the 
specifications, but before I went digital I used the 2720s with very 
good results.  The two machines are pretty much identical, the 2740s has 
built in scratch removal.  Not a big deal if you're scanning B&W 
materials, it would have been very nice to have when scanning color 
slides and negatives.  Needless to say I did not have a 2740s.  The 
biggest problem I found was that the slide and negative carriers were 
pretty flimsy, so when, buying one used, and you cannot get them new of 
course you should make sure those are in good shape.  Unfortunately I 
don't even have the unit hooked up, and I'm not sure where the film 
carriers are.


On 9/23/2013 12:41 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:

Been thinking about family photos from trips  when I was a kid. They were
all 35mm slides, and/or stereo realist slides  (which, if you chop in half,
makes a 35mm slide).

Really should convert  them all into digital. They are most of the family
pictures I have.

I  have an Epson Perfection flat bed kicking around somewhere. But it is
pretty old  now, so figured maybe there are newer ones now that would do a
better job. Also  I had a lot of problems with dust using it.

I am sort of thinking $200 or  under. Or around there. I realize there are
really good ones that are a lot  pricier, but while I want to convert the
slides, I don't want it THAT much. (I  didn't take the pics. :-))

Anyone have any particular one to  recommend?

Marnie aka Doe :-)





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PESO 2013 - 093 - GDG

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Thinking shape and form today.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/9928547113/lightbox

Thanks for looking, comments always appreciated. 

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Re: Bears in Finland

[SV Hovland]

Ann, this is Sea eagle, the largest one in Europe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White-tailed_Eagle



Fra: PDML [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] på vegne av Ann Sanfedele 
[ann...@nyc.rr.com]

Stig, are those "bataleur" eagles do you know?

ann
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Re: Bibi, Bibi, Yea!

[Chris Mitchell]

On 25 September 2013 00:23, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> On 25/9/13, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>Anytime really. I don't have any particular date in mind.
>
> Bet Mitchell-Pro1 will want a bit of that also. As it happens I've got a
> job up in town on either the 16th or 17th of October so is that any
> good? Or are we talking a weekend?
>

Yes, he's interested. Weekends would be essential. Maybe later in October?
Chris

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Re: PESO - Checking the Accommodation

[David Mann]

On Sep 24, 2013, at 7:35 PM, Brian Walters  wrote:

>> We had a blackbird building a nest in the lemon tree right next to our back 
>> door, but it was destroyed by a wind storm before she finished it.
> 
> If that was a European Blackbird, then I reckon the wind did you a favour.  
> Cursed bloody things...

Yeah that's what they are.  I quite like them, even they do tend to help with 
the gardening in their own way.  Our garden is a bit messy at the best of times 
so they don't make a lot of difference.

Cheers,
Dave


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Re: Nice little bit of recognition

[Bruce]

Well deserved and an amazing shot!

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Sent from my iPad

> On Sep 24, 2013, at 9:29 AM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
> The National Association of Photoshop Professionals currently has one
> of my photos featured as an "Editor's Pick" on their web site. Check
> out the NAPP Members Portfolio Gallery at
> http://members.photoshopuser.com/portfolio/
> (I'm pretty sure non-members can view that part of the site)
> It's my "Cathedral of Trees" shot from Northern Ireland - third from
> the left under the words "Editors Picks".
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Re: puns

[Bruce]

The wife and I had a good laugh!   Thanks for sharing.  

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> On Sep 24, 2013, at 6:03 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> i'm not to be held responsible ...
> 
>> Puns For Educated Minds
>> 
>> 
>> 1. The fattest knight at King Arthur's round table was
>> Sir Cumference. He acquired his size from too much pi.
>> 
>> 2. I thought I saw an eye-doctor on an Alaskan island,
>> but it turned out to be an optical Aleutian .
>> 
>> 3. She was only a whisky-maker, but he loved her still.
>> 
>> 4. A rubber-band pistol was confiscated from an algebra class, because it 
>> was a weapon of math disruption.
>> 
>> 5. No matter how much you push the envelope, it'll still be stationery.
>> 
>> 6. A dog gave birth to puppies near the road and was cited for littering.
>> 
>> 7. A grenade thrown into a kitchen in France would
>> result in Linoleum Blownapart.
>> 
>> 8. Two silk worms had a race. They ended up in a tie.
>> 
>> 9. A hole has been found in the nudist-camp wall.
>> The police are looking into it.
>> 
>> 10. Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
>> 
>> 11. Atheism is a non-prophet organization.
>> 
>> 12. Two hats were hanging on a hat rack in the hallway. One hat said to the 
>> other:  'You stay here; I'll go on a head.'
>> 
>> 13. I wondered why the baseball kept getting bigger. Then it hit me.
>> 
>> 14. A sign on the lawn at a drug rehab center said: 'Keep off the Grass.'
>> 
>> 15. The midget fortune-teller who escaped from
>> prison was a small medium at large.
>> 
>> 16. The soldier who survived mustard gas and
>> pepper spray is now a seasoned veteran.
>> 
>> 17. A backward poet writes inverse.
>> 
>> 18. In a democracy it's your vote that counts.
>> In feudalism it's your count that votes.
>> 
>> 19. When cannibals ate a missionary, they got a taste of religion.
>> 
>> 20. If you jumped off the bridge in Paris , you'd be in Seine .
>> 
>> 21. A vulture carrying two dead raccoons boards an airplane. The stewardess 
>> looks at him and says, 'I'm sorry, sir, only one carrion allowed per 
>> passenger.'
>> 
>> 22. Two fish swim into a concrete wall. One turns to the other and says, 
>> 'Dam!'
>> x
>> 23. Two Eskimos sitting in a kayak were chilly, so they lit a fire in the 
>> craft. Unsurprisingly it sank, proving once again that you can't have your 
>> kayak and heat it too.
>> 
>> 24. Two hydrogen atoms meet. One says, 'I've lost my electron.' The other 
>> says, 'Are you sure?' The first replies, 'Yes, I'm positive.'
>> 
>> 25. Did you hear about the Buddhist who refused Novocain
>> during a root-canal? His goal: transcend dental medication.
>> 
>> 26. There was the person who sent ten puns to friends, with the hope that at 
>> least one of the puns would make them laugh. No pun in ten did.
> 
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Re: PESO - Zoe (caution, feline content!)

[Walt]

That's a fine shot, Frank!

Well worth the time to shoot and post, IMO.

-- Walt

On 9/24/2013 7:30 PM, knarf wrote:

Zoe has been a part of our household for almost a year but I realized last 
night that I had no decent photos of her. Okay, one, but it was lost in my 
camera last October.

So last night I tried to remedy that:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/09/zoe.html?m=1

How successful I was is not up to me, but I'm satisfied with it.

Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.

Cheers,
frank
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Re: You didn't hear it from me...

[Walt]

True enough.

But, given the money for a nice Martin, I'd probably spend some of it on 
a relatively nice Alvarez and spend the rest on glass -- particularly a 
77/1.8.


-- Walt

On 9/24/2013 9:26 PM, John wrote:
You don't have to be pro player to get a good guitar any more than you 
have to be a pro photographer to get good cameras and lenses.



On 9/24/2013 9:31 PM, Walt wrote:

Fortunately, I'll never, *ever* be good enough to have a really good
guitar. I can't even think of a reputable manufacturer who'd allow it.

-- Walt

On 9/23/2013 9:29 AM, John wrote:

Word of warning, once guitars get their hooks into you they're more
expensive than cameras (but not as much as good lenses to go on those
cameras).

On 9/22/2013 11:56 AM, Walt wrote:

Somewhat coincidentally, I've been trying to learn that song on the
guitar for the past few days.

I picked up a beat-up old Yamaha acoustic from a friend about a 
week ago

after I got hooked on playing another friend's Martin while house/dog
sitting.

It's truly a beater, but it sounds good after a new set of strings and
just a touch of work on the nut to get the take out the buzz on the 
top
E string when played open. And I got it at a price that made 
rebuilding

the calluses on my fingers seem bearable.

I'll probably be looking for something newer and nicer in the
not-too-distant future. Still, it's not a bad little starter 
guitar. And

it's in much better condition than the one Willie Nelson plays.

-- Walt

On 9/21/2013 8:01 AM, John wrote:

Apropos nothing Willie Nelson singing "Blue Eyes Crying In The Rain"
started playing as soon as I began reading this message...

On 9/20/2013 7:27 PM, Tanya Love wrote:
Oh, one other thing - it will likely be  a Ricoh branded camera, 
with
"Pentax" as the model, much the same way as Canon has "EOS".  If 
they

don't
do this in time for the K3, it will be on all future models though.

-Original Message-
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Stan Halpin
Sent: Saturday, 21 September 2013 7:16 AM
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Subject: Re: You didn't hear it from me...

That is a combination I have thought about Paul. And it would 
require

much
less up-front investment than a new camera body or two . . .

stan

On Sep 20, 2013, at 4:12 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote:


How about this...

Eye-Fi Pro card - set to transfer only JPGs

Shoot RAW+JPG with JPGs set to smallest file size

Let the built-in wi-fi transfer from the card to the iPad.  No need
for a

card reader and the small JPGs transfer fairly quickly.


Then run the JPGs through Photosmith as planned.

-p

On 9/20/2013 1:58 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:



I have been thinking through "issues" with my workflow when I
travel.

Considering how to leave behind my laptop and travel just with
iPad. One
quite appealing approach is to shoot jpeg+RAW, download the 
jpeg's to

the
iPad, tag and sort on the iPad (Photosmith app), then download the
RAW files
to main computer back home and synch the metadata. All this is 
pretty

straightforward if there are two cards: RAW's go to one card, jpeg's
to the
other.




but Pentax doesn't really need me, they need new customers, so 
it's

probably most important how it will appeal to people who haven't
already got
a K-5-level camera





Something else that would interest me: remember tethering? Pentax
used to
have tethering capability on early DSLR's. Top-end modern cameras 
have

wireless tethering to iPads or smartphones. It would be nice if
Pentax were
to rediscover tethering and join that group . . .


stan



















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Re: PESO: Pas de Deux

[Walt]

Thank you, Frank.

They are fascinating creatures, aren't they? I could sit and watch them 
all day if they didn't make me feel like they were going to come flying 
toward my eyeball at any moment.


-- Walt

On 9/24/2013 9:21 PM, knarf wrote:

Cool shot. I love mantids. They're like aliens from another planet.

Well captured!

Cheers,
frank

Walt  wrote:

An interesting development occurred at the hummingbird feeder this
morning. I've been taking shots of a mantis that's been hanging out
there for the past several days. Then, late last night, I noticed there

were two of them there, but the light was so low I didn't even bother
to
grab the camera as focusing would have been out of the question. So, I
put it off hoping they might still be there this morning.

Well, they were. And it seems they've gotten one another's attention.
The one on the bottom actually struck out at the one on top before
scurrying back down to the bottom of the feeder. Unfortunately, I
wasn't
quick enough to capture it. But, I was pretty happy to get this shot
nonetheless.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9917379156/#large
K-5, F 50/1.7, 1/1600, ISO 80, f/2.8

Comments and suggestions eagerly solicited.

-- Walt

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Re: You didn't hear it from me...

[Walt]

On 9/24/2013 9:44 PM, John wrote:

On 9/24/2013 9:49 PM, Walt wrote:

On 9/24/2013 10:41 AM, John wrote:

On 9/23/2013 10:03 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 07:03:08PM -0600, steve harley wrote:

on 2013-09-23 8:29 John wrote

Word of warning, once guitars get their hooks into you they're more
expensive than cameras (but not as much as good lenses to go on 
those

cameras).


i know a fellow who is afflicted with GBA and has some number of
guitars (maybe 8?) most of which probably cost more than the list
price of any of the DA* lenses


I've got a friend with a bit of that affliction, and manages a local
music store.




Music stores are as much of a menace as camera stores.


I did spy a tempting little Fender electric/acoustic (used) when I took
my beater in to get the buzz out of the top E string. There was also a
nice new Lâg acoustic for $50 more that I liked a lot.

So, yeah -- they're a menace, but what the hell. It'll keep me out of
the camera shop for a while.

-- Walt



I've got a very nice, "no-name brand", Made in Japan, beautiful wood,
excellent construction (Martin 000-18 copy in mahogany & spruce) little
guitar I only paid $50 for. I paid more for the hard-shell case I
eventually bought to protect it ($79).

I've been seeing a lot of fairly nice guitars at astonishingly low
prices coming out of China recently, although quality assurance seems to
be a bit lacking (one will be great and the next one from the same
production run will suck).

I think they'll get there eventually.

There's a guy who comes in at work who has a couple of guitars he wants 
me to check out. One of them is a Kingston, which from what I gather, 
isn't exactly known as a good guitar maker. He doesn't know what brand 
the other is, but he says it's beautiful. I think he wants to work out a 
trade deal -- he wants a picture of himself with his dog to send to an 
old high school flame. As I see it, I can't go wrong, even if it's a 
total clunker. I would've done it for free, anyway. But, as in your 
case, sometimes "no-name" stuff turns out pretty decent.


- WAlt

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Re: PESO - Zoe (caution, feline content!)

[kwaller]

All it needs is a bunch of numbers below the image - it looks like a cat mug 
shot!


Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - 
From: "knarf" 

Subject: PESO - Zoe (caution, feline content!)


Zoe has been a part of our household for almost a year but I realized last 
night that I had no decent photos of her. Okay, one, but it was lost in my 
camera last October.


So last night I tried to remedy that:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/09/zoe.html?m=1

How successful I was is not up to me, but I'm satisfied with it.

Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.

Cheers,
frank
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Re: Slide Scanner?

[steve harley]

on 2013-09-23 10:58 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote

I've had lots of flatbed scanners, including the Epson V700. None scan 35mm 
slides particularly well IMO compared to the used Nikon Coolscan IV I bought in 
2006 for $235.


i'm reasonably happy with my Epson 4990 for snapshot-type slide scanning; the 
workflow is reasonable using Vuescan, which can auto-separate the 8 slides in 
the bracket and optionally do IR dust removal (aka ICE); yes, you will get more 
resolution and dynamic range from a decent dedicated slide scanner, but my 
philosophy (again for "snapshot-type" slides) is to scan the lot on the 
flatbed, and if any are special enough to want more resolution, send just those 
out to a service


i once had the Coolscan LS-4000 (a lot faster and a little more dynamic range 
then the Coolscan IV) while trying to go to a print-less color negative 
workflow in the early aughts, but when i went all digital i sold the scanner 
for something like $400; LS-4000 eBays for much more now; Coolscan IV is 
cheaper because it is USB-1 only





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Re: Photoshop musings

[steve harley]

on 2013-09-24 17:09 Steve Cottrell wrote

I have a personal aversion to anything cloud.


please tune your aversion-detector to the term "subscription"

Adobe's "Creative Cloud" (CC) is a marketing blunderbuss; "cloud" in the name 
is a complete misnomer for the core product, which is simply a subscription; 
there is a cloud storage feature as a minor add-on, but it's optional and to 
many users quite meaningless; the software is not cloud software, it is on your 
desktop


there are pros and cons to buying CS6 instead; it is a perpetual license, but 
will gradually fall behind whatever wonderful things Adobe is adding to CC; in 
the US at least, the student price for CS6 _or_ CC is pretty good; i had a CC 
subscription until May, then dropped it and am considering doing some 
coursework in part to get reasonable pricing on Adobe products





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Re: You didn't hear it from me...

[Mark Roberts]

Darren Addy wrote:

>New rumor that the K-3 will be offically announced on Oct. 8th.

I heard a rumour that there's going to be an even better new rumour
coming out about the rumor of a new camera soon.
 
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Re: Photoshop musings

[Mark Roberts]

John wrote:

>On 9/24/2013 8:59 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>> On Sep 24, 2013, at 4:09 PM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
>>
>>> Interesting. Just spent 234 GBP on CS6  extended student edition for
>>> Stef. He sends proof of his uni place and Adobe sends the serial. Of
>>> course they much prefer to lock him into the cloud version, and the
>>> student pricing is 16 quid a month. So after 15 months the software has
>>> reached 'crossover'. That said, at least you get updates automatically.
>>> I have a personal aversion to anything cloud. He gets to use Uni Macs
>>> with CS on there but will be doing a lot of work on the move.
>>>
>>> Meh. I get along fine with CS1 (Photoshop 8) !!!
>>
>> If you get along fine with PS CS, you'd probably get along just fine with 
>> Photoshop Elements now. It likely has even more stuff in it and will be more 
>> compatible with OS X Mountain Lion and beyond.
>>
>> I run PSCS 5. I don't use it enough to do an update anymore. LR does 99.9% 
>> of everything I need.
>
>Do either one of them allow adjustment layers?

Lightroom allows you to apply (multiple) adjustments with masks, which
accomplishes pretty much everything a photographer would want to do
with layers.

Photoshop has become pretty much a graphic designer's tool these days.
That's about all I use it for except in rare cases.
 
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Re: OT A story of note

[Mark Roberts]

John wrote:

>I'll have to take your word for it. I'm not a musician, just a guitar 
>player.

What's the difference between a musician and a large pizza? A large
pizza can feed a family of four.
 
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Re: PESO: Mr. Moore and my Yamaha

[Walt]

Thank you very much, Frank!

I'd have to say it's among my very favorite shots I've taken at work. 
When I finally get to the point of putting together a collection, this 
one will be in it.


-- Walt

On 9/24/2013 9:26 PM, knarf wrote:

Brilliant!

Your rendering is wonderful and the subject is compelling. Couldn't be better 
imho.

Cheers,
frank

Walt  wrote:

Thanks, Marnie!

-- Walt

On 9/24/2013 8:44 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:

Nice shot, lots of character.

Marnie aka  Doe :-)

In a message dated 9/23/2013 11:15:52 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
ldott...@gmail.com  writes:
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9901114106/#large
K-5,  FA 50/1.7, 1/80, ISO 3200, f/2.8

He'll probably be around quite a while  longer, but when he does
eventually go, I'll be glad I have this photo to  give to his family.

Comments are, as always, welcome.

-- Walt



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Re: PESO - Checking the Accommodation

[knarf]

Lovely colours, lovely birds!

Cheers,
frank

Brian Walters  wrote:
>Quoting eactiv...@aol.com:
>
>> Really nice shot. I'd darken it up just a  little, seems a bit washed
>out.
>
>
>Thanks, Marnie.  It looks OK here - best I check my monitor...
>
>
>Cheers
>
>Brian
>
>++
>Brian Walters
>Western Sydney Australia
>http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
>
>
>>
>> HTH, Marnie aka Doe :-)
>>
>> In a  message dated 9/23/2013 3:31:17 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
>> apathy...@lyons-ryan.org writes:
>> G'day all
>>
>> Here's one taken in my  backyard and not on my USA  trip:
>>
>>
>https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP4839-K5-1peso.ht
>> ml
>>
>>
>> Comments,  etc most welcome.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Cheers
>>
>> Brian
>>
>>

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Re: PESO industrial man

[John]

I'm getting the same thing. Also for the gallery with the previous shots.

On 9/24/2013 10:23 PM, knarf wrote:

It keeps telling me (or at least my android) "No photos here".

Cheers,
frank

Bruce Walker  wrote:

Nico Skellington is one of the multi-talented folks at Metropolis
Factory in The Junction Triangle area of Toronto:

http://www.flickriver.com/bruce_m_walker/9922413143/

K20D, DA* 16-50/2.8 @ 31mm/f:5, 1/180th, ISO 640.
AF540FGZ on camera with StoFen white diffuser.

MF is housed in an old power station where they create industrial
themed furniture and sculpture from recycled, vintage and found
materials. Besides workshops and showrooms, the building is also a
large event hosting space.

A gallery with more, including previous shown shots from an artisans
event:

http://www.flickriver.com/bruce_m_walker/sets/72157635857960425/


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Re: You didn't hear it from me...

[John]

On 9/24/2013 9:49 PM, Walt wrote:

On 9/24/2013 10:41 AM, John wrote:

On 9/23/2013 10:03 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 07:03:08PM -0600, steve harley wrote:

on 2013-09-23 8:29 John wrote

Word of warning, once guitars get their hooks into you they're more
expensive than cameras (but not as much as good lenses to go on those
cameras).


i know a fellow who is afflicted with GBA and has some number of
guitars (maybe 8?) most of which probably cost more than the list
price of any of the DA* lenses


I've got a friend with a bit of that affliction, and manages a local
music store.




Music stores are as much of a menace as camera stores.


I did spy a tempting little Fender electric/acoustic (used) when I took
my beater in to get the buzz out of the top E string. There was also a
nice new Lâg acoustic for $50 more that I liked a lot.

So, yeah -- they're a menace, but what the hell. It'll keep me out of
the camera shop for a while.

-- Walt



I've got a very nice, "no-name brand", Made in Japan, beautiful wood,
excellent construction (Martin 000-18 copy in mahogany & spruce) little
guitar I only paid $50 for. I paid more for the hard-shell case I
eventually bought to protect it ($79).

I've been seeing a lot of fairly nice guitars at astonishingly low
prices coming out of China recently, although quality assurance seems to
be a bit lacking (one will be great and the next one from the same
production run will suck).

I think they'll get there eventually.

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Re: OT 9 eyes

[Daniel J. Matyola]

really fascinating!

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> http://9-eyes.com/
>
> Shots from around the world taken from Google Streetview. Fair
> warning: a serious time sink.
>
> Meta: 
> http://www.artfagcity.com/2009/08/12/img-mgmt-the-nine-eyes-of-google-street-view/
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Re: PESO - Sunrise

[knarf]

Beautiful light and shadows, interesting composition, lovely photo. 

Cheers,
frank

George Sinos  wrote:
>I enjoy the sunrise a lot more now that I work from home and don't
>have to fight the morning traffic..
>
>
>
>gs
>
>George Sinos
>
>www.GeorgesPhotos.net
>www.GeorgeSinos.com

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Re: PESO: Red-tailed Hawk

[knarf]

Absolutely outstanding photo!

Cheers,
frank

Jack Davis  wrote:
>Appreciate it, Marnie!
> 
>Jack
>
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "eactiv...@aol.com" 
>To: pdml@pdml.net
>Cc: 
>Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 6:42 AM
>Subject: Re: PESO: Red-tailed Hawk
>
>Nice capture, Jack.
>
>Marnie aka Doe  :-)
>
>In a message dated 9/20/2013 9:14:22 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
>jdavi...@yahoo.com writes:
>Red-tailed Hawk. I believe(?)  Taken last  fall.
>
>http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=711
>
>Jack  

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Re: You didn't hear it from me...

[John]

You don't have to be pro player to get a good guitar any more than you 
have to be a pro photographer to get good cameras and lenses.



On 9/24/2013 9:31 PM, Walt wrote:

Fortunately, I'll never, *ever* be good enough to have a really good
guitar. I can't even think of a reputable manufacturer who'd allow it.

-- Walt

On 9/23/2013 9:29 AM, John wrote:

Word of warning, once guitars get their hooks into you they're more
expensive than cameras (but not as much as good lenses to go on those
cameras).

On 9/22/2013 11:56 AM, Walt wrote:

Somewhat coincidentally, I've been trying to learn that song on the
guitar for the past few days.

I picked up a beat-up old Yamaha acoustic from a friend about a week ago
after I got hooked on playing another friend's Martin while house/dog
sitting.

It's truly a beater, but it sounds good after a new set of strings and
just a touch of work on the nut to get the take out the buzz on the top
E string when played open. And I got it at a price that made rebuilding
the calluses on my fingers seem bearable.

I'll probably be looking for something newer and nicer in the
not-too-distant future. Still, it's not a bad little starter guitar. And
it's in much better condition than the one Willie Nelson plays.

-- Walt

On 9/21/2013 8:01 AM, John wrote:

Apropos nothing Willie Nelson singing "Blue Eyes Crying In The Rain"
started playing as soon as I began reading this message...

On 9/20/2013 7:27 PM, Tanya Love wrote:

Oh, one other thing - it will likely be  a Ricoh branded camera, with
"Pentax" as the model, much the same way as Canon has "EOS".  If they
don't
do this in time for the K3, it will be on all future models though.

-Original Message-
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Stan Halpin
Sent: Saturday, 21 September 2013 7:16 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: You didn't hear it from me...

That is a combination I have thought about Paul. And it would require
much
less up-front investment than a new camera body or two . . .

stan

On Sep 20, 2013, at 4:12 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote:


How about this...

Eye-Fi Pro card - set to transfer only JPGs

Shoot RAW+JPG with JPGs set to smallest file size

Let the built-in wi-fi transfer from the card to the iPad.  No need
for a

card reader and the small JPGs transfer fairly quickly.


Then run the JPGs through Photosmith as planned.

-p

On 9/20/2013 1:58 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:



I have been thinking through "issues" with my workflow when I
travel.

Considering how to leave behind my laptop and travel just with
iPad. One
quite appealing approach is to shoot jpeg+RAW, download the jpeg's to
the
iPad, tag and sort on the iPad (Photosmith app), then download the
RAW files
to main computer back home and synch the metadata. All this is pretty
straightforward if there are two cards: RAW's go to one card, jpeg's
to the
other.




but Pentax doesn't really need me, they need new customers, so it's

probably most important how it will appeal to people who haven't
already got
a K-5-level camera





Something else that would interest me: remember tethering? Pentax
used to

have tethering capability on early DSLR's. Top-end modern cameras have
wireless tethering to iPads or smartphones. It would be nice if
Pentax were
to rediscover tethering and join that group . . .


stan
















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Re: PESO: Pas de Deux

[Walt]

Thank you, Godfrey.

They are indeed fierce, and I was hoping to catch a really dramatic 
display. I suspect I'll have more opportunities in the days ahead, as 
I've spotted three of them hanging around the feeder. They're a lot more 
challenging to photograph than I'd expected -- at least when using a 
50mm at f/2.8. I'll have to stop down a bit in the future and hope the 
background is reasonably agreeable.


-- Walt

On 9/24/2013 7:49 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

Very nice!
Praying Mantis are fierce little buggers. Happy I'm a lot bigger than they are!

G

On Sep 24, 2013, at 8:28 AM, Walt  wrote:


An interesting development occurred at the hummingbird feeder this morning. 
I've been taking shots of a mantis that's been hanging out there for the past 
several days. Then, late last night, I noticed there were two of them there, 
but the light was so low I didn't even bother to grab the camera as focusing 
would have been out of the question. So, I put it off hoping they might still 
be there this morning.

Well, they were. And it seems they've gotten one another's attention. The one 
on the bottom actually struck out at the one on top before scurrying back down 
to the bottom of the feeder. Unfortunately, I wasn't quick enough to capture 
it. But, I was pretty happy to get this shot nonetheless.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9917379156/#large
K-5, F 50/1.7, 1/1600, ISO 80, f/2.8





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Re: PESO: Mr. Moore and my Yamaha

[knarf]

Brilliant!

Your rendering is wonderful and the subject is compelling. Couldn't be better 
imho.

Cheers,
frank

Walt  wrote:
>Thanks, Marnie!
>
>-- Walt
>
>On 9/24/2013 8:44 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
>> Nice shot, lots of character.
>>
>> Marnie aka  Doe :-)
>>
>> In a message dated 9/23/2013 11:15:52 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
>> ldott...@gmail.com  writes:
>> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9901114106/#large
>> K-5,  FA 50/1.7, 1/80, ISO 3200, f/2.8
>>
>> He'll probably be around quite a while  longer, but when he does
>> eventually go, I'll be glad I have this photo to  give to his family.
>>
>> Comments are, as always, welcome.
>>
>> -- Walt
>>
>>

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Re: PESO industrial man

[knarf]

It keeps telling me (or at least my android) "No photos here".

Cheers,
frank

Bruce Walker  wrote:
>Nico Skellington is one of the multi-talented folks at Metropolis
>Factory in The Junction Triangle area of Toronto:
>
>http://www.flickriver.com/bruce_m_walker/9922413143/
>
>K20D, DA* 16-50/2.8 @ 31mm/f:5, 1/180th, ISO 640.
>AF540FGZ on camera with StoFen white diffuser.
>
>MF is housed in an old power station where they create industrial
>themed furniture and sculpture from recycled, vintage and found
>materials. Besides workshops and showrooms, the building is also a
>large event hosting space.
>
>A gallery with more, including previous shown shots from an artisans
>event:
>
>http://www.flickriver.com/bruce_m_walker/sets/72157635857960425/

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Re: Nice little bit of recognition

[Ann Sanfedele]

Ditto - lovely shot  which I'm sure I said the first time I saw it :-)
too bad the photo credit didn't show up on the Editor's choice 
thumbnails though


ann



On 9/24/2013 15:41, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:

Great shot. Congrats!, Mark.

Marnie aka  Doe

In a message dated 9/24/2013 9:29:56 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
postmas...@robertstech.com writes:
The National Association of Photoshop  Professionals currently has one
of my photos featured as an "Editor's Pick"  on their web site. Check
out the NAPP Members Portfolio Gallery  at
http://members.photoshopuser.com/portfolio/
(I'm pretty sure  non-members can view that part of the site)
It's my "Cathedral of Trees" shot  from Northern Ireland - third from
the left under the words "Editors  Picks".



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Re: PESO: Pas de Deux

[knarf]

Cool shot. I love mantids. They're like aliens from another planet.

Well captured!

Cheers, 
frank

Walt  wrote:
>An interesting development occurred at the hummingbird feeder this 
>morning. I've been taking shots of a mantis that's been hanging out 
>there for the past several days. Then, late last night, I noticed there
>
>were two of them there, but the light was so low I didn't even bother
>to 
>grab the camera as focusing would have been out of the question. So, I 
>put it off hoping they might still be there this morning.
>
>Well, they were. And it seems they've gotten one another's attention. 
>The one on the bottom actually struck out at the one on top before 
>scurrying back down to the bottom of the feeder. Unfortunately, I
>wasn't 
>quick enough to capture it. But, I was pretty happy to get this shot 
>nonetheless.
>
>http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9917379156/#large
>K-5, F 50/1.7, 1/1600, ISO 80, f/2.8
>
>Comments and suggestions eagerly solicited.
>
>-- Walt

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Re: PESO A scene from near the end of my walk.

[knarf]

Very Old World. Gorgeous! 

Cheers,
frank

Eric Weir  wrote:
>
>Street scene from the older part of Cromer, where my walk ended. 
>
>
>--
>Eric Weir
>Decatur, GA  USA
>eew...@bellsouth.net
>
>"Style is truth." 
>
>- Ray Bradbury

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Re: PESO - Zoe (caution, feline content!)

[John]

It's certainly an identifiable cat photo which should be good enough for 
the internet, if not for The Online Photographer.


On 9/24/2013 8:30 PM, knarf wrote:

Zoe has been a part of our household for almost a year but I realized
last night that I had no decent photos of her. Okay, one, but it was
lost in my camera last October.

So last night I tried to remedy that:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/09/zoe.html?m=1

How successful I was is not up to me, but I'm satisfied with it.

Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.

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Re: Photoshop musings

[John]

On 9/24/2013 8:59 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

On Sep 24, 2013, at 4:09 PM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:


Interesting. Just spent 234 GBP on CS6  extended student edition for
Stef. He sends proof of his uni place and Adobe sends the serial. Of
course they much prefer to lock him into the cloud version, and the
student pricing is 16 quid a month. So after 15 months the software has
reached 'crossover'. That said, at least you get updates automatically.
I have a personal aversion to anything cloud. He gets to use Uni Macs
with CS on there but will be doing a lot of work on the move.

Meh. I get along fine with CS1 (Photoshop 8) !!!


If you get along fine with PS CS, you'd probably get along just fine with 
Photoshop Elements now. It likely has even more stuff in it and will be more 
compatible with OS X Mountain Lion and beyond.

I run PSCS 5. I don't use it enough to do an update anymore. LR does 99.9% of 
everything I need.

G



Do either one of them allow adjustment layers?

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Re: Photoshop musings

[John]

CS6 Extended Student & Teacher Edition is $344 from Academic Superstore.

Student/Teacher edition qualifies for upgrades just like regular shrink
wrap editions. But I don't know if there's ever going to be a CS7 to
upgrade to.

The upgrade from CS5 to CS6 Extended was $399. They didn't appear to
offer a non-extended version of CS6 at the time I upgraded & they were
also going through all that rigamarole about only allowing upgrades from
one level back.

On 9/24/2013 8:13 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Steve Cottrell wrote:


Interesting. Just spent 234 GBP on CS6  extended student edition for
Stef. He sends proof of his uni place and Adobe sends the serial. Of
course they much prefer to lock him into the cloud version, and the
student pricing is 16 quid a month. So after 15 months the software has
reached 'crossover'. That said, at least you get updates automatically.
I have a personal aversion to anything cloud. He gets to use Uni Macs
with CS on there but will be doing a lot of work on the move.

Meh. I get along fine with CS1 (Photoshop 8) !!!


I'm telling my students to grab a copy of CS6 fast if they can find
it.




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Re: You didn't hear it from me...

[Larry Colen]

On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 08:49:24PM -0500, Walt wrote:
> On 9/24/2013 10:41 AM, John wrote:
> >On 9/23/2013 10:03 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
> >>On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 07:03:08PM -0600, steve harley wrote:
> >>>on 2013-09-23 8:29 John wrote
> Word of warning, once guitars get their hooks into you they're more
> expensive than cameras (but not as much as good lenses to go on those
> cameras).
> >>>
> >>>i know a fellow who is afflicted with GBA and has some number of
> >>>guitars (maybe 8?) most of which probably cost more than the list
> >>>price of any of the DA* lenses
> >>
> >>I've got a friend with a bit of that affliction, and manages a
> >>local music store.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Music stores are as much of a menace as camera stores.
> >
> I did spy a tempting little Fender electric/acoustic (used) when I
> took my beater in to get the buzz out of the top E string. There was
> also a nice new Lâg acoustic for $50 more that I liked a lot.
> 
> So, yeah -- they're a menace, but what the hell. It'll keep me out
> of the camera shop for a while.

The PDML version of fiscal responsibility:
Blow all of your money on guitars so that you don't spend it on lenses.

> 
> -- Walt
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Re: Nice little bit of recognition

[steve harley]

on 2013-09-24 10:29 Mark Roberts wrote

The National Association of Photoshop Professionals currently has one
of my photos featured as an "Editor's Pick" on their web site. Check
out the NAPP Members Portfolio Gallery at
http://members.photoshopuser.com/portfolio/


congrats and i'm glad you called it out since i hadn't seen it before; great 
photo

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Re: Photoshop musings

[John]

On 9/24/2013 7:09 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

Interesting. Just spent 234 GBP on CS6  extended student edition for
Stef. He sends proof of his uni place and Adobe sends the serial. Of
course they much prefer to lock him into the cloud version, and the
student pricing is 16 quid a month. So after 15 months the software has
reached 'crossover'. That said, at least you get updates automatically.
I have a personal aversion to anything cloud. He gets to use Uni Macs
with CS on there but will be doing a lot of work on the move.

Meh. I get along fine with CS1 (Photoshop 8) !!!



I thought it was just CS? It didn't become CS# until CS2.

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Re: You didn't hear it from me...

[Walt]

On 9/24/2013 10:41 AM, John wrote:

On 9/23/2013 10:03 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 07:03:08PM -0600, steve harley wrote:

on 2013-09-23 8:29 John wrote

Word of warning, once guitars get their hooks into you they're more
expensive than cameras (but not as much as good lenses to go on those
cameras).


i know a fellow who is afflicted with GBA and has some number of
guitars (maybe 8?) most of which probably cost more than the list
price of any of the DA* lenses


I've got a friend with a bit of that affliction, and manages a local 
music store.





Music stores are as much of a menace as camera stores.

I did spy a tempting little Fender electric/acoustic (used) when I took 
my beater in to get the buzz out of the top E string. There was also a 
nice new Lâg acoustic for $50 more that I liked a lot.


So, yeah -- they're a menace, but what the hell. It'll keep me out of 
the camera shop for a while.


-- Walt

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Re: OT A story of note

[John]

I'll have to take your word for it. I'm not a musician, just a guitar 
player.


On 9/24/2013 5:05 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

With all the music discussion lately, I just ran across this on that
timesuck website and suspect that a few people on this list would
appreciate it.

C, E-flat, and G go into a bar. The bartender says, "Sorry, but we
don't serve minors." So E-flat leaves, and C and G have an open fifth
between them. After a few drinks, the fifth is diminished, and G is
out flat. F comes in and tries to augment the situation, but is not
sharp enough. D comes in and heads for the bathroom, saying, "Excuse
me; I'll just be a second." Then A comes in, but the bartender is not
convinced that this relative of C is not a minor. Then the bartender
notices B-flat hiding at the end of the bar and says, "Get out!
You're the seventh minor I've found in this bar tonight." E-flat
comes back the next night in a three-piece suit with nicely shined
shoes. The bartender says, "You're looking sharp tonight. Come on in,
this could be a major development." Sure enough, E-flat soon takes
off his suit and everything else, and is au natural. Eventually C
sobers up and realizes in horror that he's under a rest. C is brought
to trial, found guilty of contributing to the diminution of a minor,
and is sentenced to 10 years of D.S. without Coda at an upscale
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Re: Bibi, Bibi, Yea!

[John]

I hope it will make it over here, because I don't think I'm going to be
able to make it over there in time to see it.

Someday ...

On 9/24/2013 4:48 PM, Bob W wrote:

There's an exhibition coming up at the Photographers' Gallery in London of
pictures by J-H Lartigue:



I plan to see it at least once, so if anyone's interested and wants to see
it with me, let me know and we'll see what we can arrange.

B




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Re: PESO A scene from near the end of my walk.

[John]

There's always a guy at Grandfather Mountain Nature Photography Weekend
doing sensor cleanings. That's when & where I get mine done.

On 9/24/2013 12:41 PM, Eric Weir wrote:


On Sep 24, 2013, at 4:00 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:


A gorgeous shot, Eric.


Thanks, Bruce.


BTW, I hope you saw my Flickr upload suggestions post to you from last
week or so.


Yes, I did. And thanks for that, too. Unfortunately, I didn't know what to do 
about it and there's no camera shop where I'm staying. However, today we went 
over to a larger, older city---Colchester, the oldest registered city in 
England---to take in the streets and the castle and came across a camera shop. 
They would've needed to keep the camera overnight to clean the sensor, but they 
sold me a blower which I will give a try and report back.

Regards,
--
Eric Weir
Decatur, GA  USA
eew...@bellsouth.net

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Re: Nice little bit of recognition

[John]

On 9/24/2013 3:47 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Interestingly, I only found the "Editors Picks" page by accident when
searching for material for class - apparently one doesn't get notified
of a shot being an Editors Pick. Not that it's a big deal. (There's no
prize other than being able to tell the PDML and Facebook friends
about it.) I was wondering why that particular photo had suddenly
picked up a bunch of comments. And the thing is, several of my other
shots suddenly sprouted comments in the past few weeks. Perhaps they
were "Editors Picks" some time ago? There's no way to find out, as far
as I can tell.




It was a great photo even before they picked it.

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Re: Bears in Finland

[John]

Maybe a little cramped, but it looks like excellent accommodations.

On 9/24/2013 5:03 PM, SV Hovland wrote:

http://album.heime.org/album/diverse/k7a_7530.jpg

This is from the largest hide for four peoples. But most where smaller and 
meant for two or three.

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Very nice. I wonder, did you take any photos of the blind to show what 
conditions for the photographer were like?



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Re: You didn't hear it from me...

[Walt]

Fortunately, I'll never, *ever* be good enough to have a really good 
guitar. I can't even think of a reputable manufacturer who'd allow it.


-- Walt

On 9/23/2013 9:29 AM, John wrote:

Word of warning, once guitars get their hooks into you they're more
expensive than cameras (but not as much as good lenses to go on those
cameras).

On 9/22/2013 11:56 AM, Walt wrote:

Somewhat coincidentally, I've been trying to learn that song on the
guitar for the past few days.

I picked up a beat-up old Yamaha acoustic from a friend about a week ago
after I got hooked on playing another friend's Martin while house/dog
sitting.

It's truly a beater, but it sounds good after a new set of strings and
just a touch of work on the nut to get the take out the buzz on the top
E string when played open. And I got it at a price that made rebuilding
the calluses on my fingers seem bearable.

I'll probably be looking for something newer and nicer in the
not-too-distant future. Still, it's not a bad little starter guitar. And
it's in much better condition than the one Willie Nelson plays.

-- Walt

On 9/21/2013 8:01 AM, John wrote:

Apropos nothing Willie Nelson singing "Blue Eyes Crying In The Rain"
started playing as soon as I began reading this message...

On 9/20/2013 7:27 PM, Tanya Love wrote:

Oh, one other thing - it will likely be  a Ricoh branded camera, with
"Pentax" as the model, much the same way as Canon has "EOS".  If they
don't
do this in time for the K3, it will be on all future models though.

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That is a combination I have thought about Paul. And it would require
much
less up-front investment than a new camera body or two . . .

stan

On Sep 20, 2013, at 4:12 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote:


How about this...

Eye-Fi Pro card - set to transfer only JPGs

Shoot RAW+JPG with JPGs set to smallest file size

Let the built-in wi-fi transfer from the card to the iPad.  No need
for a

card reader and the small JPGs transfer fairly quickly.


Then run the JPGs through Photosmith as planned.

-p

On 9/20/2013 1:58 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:



I have been thinking through "issues" with my workflow when I 
travel.
Considering how to leave behind my laptop and travel just with 
iPad. One

quite appealing approach is to shoot jpeg+RAW, download the jpeg's to
the
iPad, tag and sort on the iPad (Photosmith app), then download the
RAW files
to main computer back home and synch the metadata. All this is pretty
straightforward if there are two cards: RAW's go to one card, jpeg's
to the
other.




but Pentax doesn't really need me, they need new customers, so it's

probably most important how it will appeal to people who haven't
already got
a K-5-level camera





Something else that would interest me: remember tethering? Pentax
used to

have tethering capability on early DSLR's. Top-end modern cameras have
wireless tethering to iPads or smartphones. It would be nice if
Pentax were
to rediscover tethering and join that group . . .


stan














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Re: Bears in Finland

[John]

The eagle shot I like is the one from the blog where the eagle shows his
disdain for the ravens.

On 9/24/2013 12:32 PM, Attila Boros wrote:

All of them are good, but that eagle shot is fantastic! The bear shot
is very special from 10m, I wouldn't feel comfortable that close.



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Re: You didn't hear it from me...

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Hmm. I know I think differently. My answer is usually "One less than I got."

G

On Sep 24, 2013, at 6:16 PM, John  wrote:

> Actually, the same answer applies whether the question is "How many
> lenses do you need? or "How many guitars do you need?"
> 
> A: One more.


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Re: You didn't hear it from me...

[John]

Actually, the same answer applies whether the question is "How many
lenses do you need? or "How many guitars do you need?"

A: One more.

On 9/24/2013 3:00 PM, Chris Mitchell wrote:

It sounds a bit like the book dealing hobby (sorry, business) that
Christine A's Darrel runs.

An old guitar mate of mine contends that if you know how many guitars
you've got, you haven't got enough. The same adage applies to lenses.

Chris

On 24 September 2013 16:41, John  wrote:

On 9/23/2013 10:03 PM, Larry Colen wrote:


On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 07:03:08PM -0600, steve harley wrote:


on 2013-09-23 8:29 John wrote


Word of warning, once guitars get their hooks into you they're more
expensive than cameras (but not as much as good lenses to go on those
cameras).



i know a fellow who is afflicted with GBA and has some number of
guitars (maybe 8?) most of which probably cost more than the list
price of any of the DA* lenses



I've got a friend with a bit of that affliction, and manages a local music
store.




Music stores are as much of a menace as camera stores.


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puns

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

i'm not to be held responsible ...

> Puns For Educated Minds
>  
>  
> 1. The fattest knight at King Arthur's round table was
> Sir Cumference. He acquired his size from too much pi.
>  
> 2. I thought I saw an eye-doctor on an Alaskan island,
> but it turned out to be an optical Aleutian .
>  
> 3. She was only a whisky-maker, but he loved her still.
>  
> 4. A rubber-band pistol was confiscated from an algebra class, because it was 
> a weapon of math disruption.
>  
> 5. No matter how much you push the envelope, it'll still be stationery.
>  
> 6. A dog gave birth to puppies near the road and was cited for littering.
>  
> 7. A grenade thrown into a kitchen in France would
> result in Linoleum Blownapart.
>  
> 8. Two silk worms had a race. They ended up in a tie.
>  
> 9. A hole has been found in the nudist-camp wall.
> The police are looking into it.
>  
> 10. Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
>  
> 11. Atheism is a non-prophet organization.
>  
> 12. Two hats were hanging on a hat rack in the hallway. One hat said to the 
> other:  'You stay here; I'll go on a head.'
>  
> 13. I wondered why the baseball kept getting bigger. Then it hit me.
>  
> 14. A sign on the lawn at a drug rehab center said: 'Keep off the Grass.'
>  
> 15. The midget fortune-teller who escaped from
> prison was a small medium at large.
>  
> 16. The soldier who survived mustard gas and
> pepper spray is now a seasoned veteran.
>  
> 17. A backward poet writes inverse.
>  
> 18. In a democracy it's your vote that counts.
> In feudalism it's your count that votes.
>  
> 19. When cannibals ate a missionary, they got a taste of religion.
>  
> 20. If you jumped off the bridge in Paris , you'd be in Seine .
>  
> 21. A vulture carrying two dead raccoons boards an airplane. The stewardess 
> looks at him and says, 'I'm sorry, sir, only one carrion allowed per 
> passenger.'
>  
> 22. Two fish swim into a concrete wall. One turns to the other and says, 
> 'Dam!'
>  x
> 23. Two Eskimos sitting in a kayak were chilly, so they lit a fire in the 
> craft. Unsurprisingly it sank, proving once again that you can't have your 
> kayak and heat it too.
>  
> 24. Two hydrogen atoms meet. One says, 'I've lost my electron.' The other 
> says, 'Are you sure?' The first replies, 'Yes, I'm positive.'
>  
> 25. Did you hear about the Buddhist who refused Novocain
> during a root-canal? His goal: transcend dental medication.
>  
> 26. There was the person who sent ten puns to friends, with the hope that at 
> least one of the puns would make them laugh. No pun in ten did.

Godfrey
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Re: PESO - Zoe (caution, feline content!)

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Sep 24, 2013, at 5:30 PM, knarf  wrote:

> Zoe has been a part of our household for almost a year but I realized last 
> night that I had no decent photos of her. Okay, one, but it was lost in my 
> camera last October.
> 
> So last night I tried to remedy that:
> 
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/09/zoe.html?m=1
> 
> How successful I was is not up to me, but I'm satisfied with it.


I think she's giving us all the evil eye... ;-)

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Re: Photoshop musings

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Sep 24, 2013, at 4:09 PM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:

> Interesting. Just spent 234 GBP on CS6  extended student edition for
> Stef. He sends proof of his uni place and Adobe sends the serial. Of
> course they much prefer to lock him into the cloud version, and the
> student pricing is 16 quid a month. So after 15 months the software has
> reached 'crossover'. That said, at least you get updates automatically.
> I have a personal aversion to anything cloud. He gets to use Uni Macs
> with CS on there but will be doing a lot of work on the move.
> 
> Meh. I get along fine with CS1 (Photoshop 8) !!!

If you get along fine with PS CS, you'd probably get along just fine with 
Photoshop Elements now. It likely has even more stuff in it and will be more 
compatible with OS X Mountain Lion and beyond. 

I run PSCS 5. I don't use it enough to do an update anymore. LR does 99.9% of 
everything I need. 

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Re: PESO: Pas de Deux

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Very nice! 
Praying Mantis are fierce little buggers. Happy I'm a lot bigger than they are! 

G

On Sep 24, 2013, at 8:28 AM, Walt  wrote:

> An interesting development occurred at the hummingbird feeder this morning. 
> I've been taking shots of a mantis that's been hanging out there for the past 
> several days. Then, late last night, I noticed there were two of them there, 
> but the light was so low I didn't even bother to grab the camera as focusing 
> would have been out of the question. So, I put it off hoping they might still 
> be there this morning.
> 
> Well, they were. And it seems they've gotten one another's attention. The one 
> on the bottom actually struck out at the one on top before scurrying back 
> down to the bottom of the feeder. Unfortunately, I wasn't quick enough to 
> capture it. But, I was pretty happy to get this shot nonetheless.
> 
> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9917379156/#large
> K-5, F 50/1.7, 1/1600, ISO 80, f/2.8


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Re: PESO - Zoe (caution, feline content!)

[Ann Sanfedele]

Well I like it!
so does Ashley

meow

ann

On 9/24/2013 20:30, knarf wrote:

Zoe has been a part of our household for almost a year but I realized last 
night that I had no decent photos of her. Okay, one, but it was lost in my 
camera last October.

So last night I tried to remedy that:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/09/zoe.html?m=1

How successful I was is not up to me, but I'm satisfied with it.

Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.

Cheers,
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Re: PESO - Zoe (caution, feline content!)

[Bruce Walker]

I'm a sucker for teh kittez. Lovely!


On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 8:30 PM, knarf  wrote:
> Zoe has been a part of our household for almost a year but I realized last 
> night that I had no decent photos of her. Okay, one, but it was lost in my 
> camera last October.
>
> So last night I tried to remedy that:
>
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/09/zoe.html?m=1
>
> How successful I was is not up to me, but I'm satisfied with it.
>
> Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.
>
> Cheers,
> frank
> “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel
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PESO - Zoe (caution, feline content!)

[knarf]

Zoe has been a part of our household for almost a year but I realized last 
night that I had no decent photos of her. Okay, one, but it was lost in my 
camera last October.

So last night I tried to remedy that:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/09/zoe.html?m=1

How successful I was is not up to me, but I'm satisfied with it.

Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. 

Cheers,
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Re: Photoshop musings

[Mark Roberts]

Steve Cottrell wrote:

>Interesting. Just spent 234 GBP on CS6  extended student edition for
>Stef. He sends proof of his uni place and Adobe sends the serial. Of
>course they much prefer to lock him into the cloud version, and the
>student pricing is 16 quid a month. So after 15 months the software has
>reached 'crossover'. That said, at least you get updates automatically.
>I have a personal aversion to anything cloud. He gets to use Uni Macs
>with CS on there but will be doing a lot of work on the move.
>
>Meh. I get along fine with CS1 (Photoshop 8) !!!

By the way, Cotty. Sensible people like you are the reason we're
getting the "cloud" thing rammed down our throats. They can't make
(enough) money from satisfied customers who don't need to upgrade all
the time.
 
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Re: Photoshop musings

[Mark Roberts]

Steve Cottrell wrote:

>Interesting. Just spent 234 GBP on CS6  extended student edition for
>Stef. He sends proof of his uni place and Adobe sends the serial. Of
>course they much prefer to lock him into the cloud version, and the
>student pricing is 16 quid a month. So after 15 months the software has
>reached 'crossover'. That said, at least you get updates automatically.
>I have a personal aversion to anything cloud. He gets to use Uni Macs
>with CS on there but will be doing a lot of work on the move.
>
>Meh. I get along fine with CS1 (Photoshop 8) !!!

I'm telling my students to grab a copy of CS6 fast if they can find
it.
 
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Re: OT A story of note

[Steve Cottrell]

On 24/9/13, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:

>That's where I found it and shared it.

D'oh!

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Re: Bibi, Bibi, Yea!

[Steve Cottrell]

On 25/9/13, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Anytime really. I don't have any particular date in mind.

Bet Mitchell-Pro1 will want a bit of that also. As it happens I've got a
job up in town on either the 16th or 17th of October so is that any
good? Or are we talking a weekend?

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Re: OT A story of note

[Larry Colen]

On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 12:14:10AM +0100, Steve Cottrell wrote:
> On 24/9/13, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
> >With all the music discussion lately, I just ran across this on 
> >that timesuck website and suspect that a few people on this list
> >would appreciate it.
> 
> Put that on FB and I'll share it. Quite a few musicians I know.

That's where I found it and shared it.


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Re: PESO A scene from near the end of my walk.

[Steve Cottrell]

>> Street scene from the older part of Cromer, where my walk ended.
>> 

Like it!


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Re: OT A story of note

[Steve Cottrell]

On 24/9/13, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:

>With all the music discussion lately, I just ran across this on 
>that timesuck website and suspect that a few people on this list
>would appreciate it.

Put that on FB and I'll share it. Quite a few musicians I know.

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Re: OT A story of note

[Steve Cottrell]

On 24/9/13, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:

>C, E-flat, and G go into a bar. The bartender says, "Sorry, but we don't
>serve minors." So E-flat leaves, and C and G have an open fifth between
>them. After a few drinks, the fifth is diminished, and G is out flat. F
>comes in and tries to augment the situation, but is not sharp enough. D
>comes in and heads for the bathroom, saying, "Excuse me; I'll just be a
>second." Then A comes in, but the bartender is not convinced that this
>relative of C is not a minor. Then the bartender notices B-flat hiding
>at the end of the bar and says, "Get out! You're the seventh minor I've
>found in this bar tonight." E-flat comes back the next night in a three-
>piece suit with nicely shined shoes. The bartender says, "You're looking
>sharp tonight. Come on in, this could be a major development." Sure
>enough, E-flat soon takes off his suit and everything else, and is au
>natural. Eventually C sobers up and realizes in horror that he's under a
>rest. C is brought to trial, found guilty of contributing to the
>diminution of a minor, and is sentenced to 10 years of D.S. without Coda
>at an upscale correctional facility.

Classic!

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Photoshop musings

[Steve Cottrell]

Interesting. Just spent 234 GBP on CS6  extended student edition for
Stef. He sends proof of his uni place and Adobe sends the serial. Of
course they much prefer to lock him into the cloud version, and the
student pricing is 16 quid a month. So after 15 months the software has
reached 'crossover'. That said, at least you get updates automatically.
I have a personal aversion to anything cloud. He gets to use Uni Macs
with CS on there but will be doing a lot of work on the move.

Meh. I get along fine with CS1 (Photoshop 8) !!!

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Re: Nice little bit of recognition

[Larry Colen]

On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 12:29:48PM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote:
> The National Association of Photoshop Professionals currently has one
> of my photos featured as an "Editor's Pick" on their web site. Check
> out the NAPP Members Portfolio Gallery at
> http://members.photoshopuser.com/portfolio/
> (I'm pretty sure non-members can view that part of the site)
> It's my "Cathedral of Trees" shot from Northern Ireland - third from
> the left under the words "Editors Picks".

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Re: Bibi, Bibi, Yea!

[Bob W]

> On 24 Sep 2013, at 23:33, "Steve Cottrell"  wrote:
> 
> On 24/9/13, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
>> There's an exhibition coming up at the Photographers' Gallery in London of
>> pictures by J-H Lartigue:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I plan to see it at least once, so if anyone's interested and wants to see
>> it with me, let me know and we'll see what we can arrange.
> 
> Yes I could well be up for that. Stef might want to join us.
> 
> When were you thinking?
> 

Anytime really. I don't have any particular date in mind.

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Re: Bears in Finland

[Bruce Walker]

Wow. That thing must have WiFi access and a beer fridge. :-)

What's to stop a bear from reaching an arm through that plastic sheet
your lenses poke through? Don't even want to think about it. I used to
camp in the Rockies, but my days of roughing it are well and truly
behind me.

On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 5:03 PM, SV Hovland  wrote:
> http://album.heime.org/album/diverse/k7a_7530.jpg
>
> This is from the largest hide for four peoples. But most where smaller and 
> meant for two or three.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John
> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 6:12 PM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: Bears in Finland
>
> Very nice. I wonder, did you take any photos of the blind to show what 
> conditions for the photographer were like?
>
> On 9/24/2013 10:54 AM, Alan C wrote:
>> Very interesting shots of the Bear, Wolf & Wolverine. I haven't seen
>> any of them in the wild. Quite fortunate some still survive in Europe.
>> The eagles are magnificent.
>>
>> Alan
>>
>> -Original Message- From: SV Hovland
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 7:48 AM
>> To: pdml@pdml.net
>> Subject: Bears in Finland
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> I had a 5 day trip to Finland last week to photograph bears. It was
>> together with a group from Stavanger and we where 10 persons. We was
>> picked up at the airport in Kajaani and drove to the Russian border.
>>
>> Before I left Stavanger, I crossed all my fingers for at lest one bear
>> to see, but we had up to six almost every evening and also saw wolves,
>> wolverines and eagles.
>>
>> http://www.heime.org/image.axd?picture=%2f2013%2f09%2fIMGP8009.jpg
>> This is a picture of a wolf. Taken with K-01 and FA*300/2.8 at ISO9000
>>
>> http://www.heime.org/image.axd?picture=%2f2013%2f09%2fK5C_2528.jpg
>> And a bear only 10 meters away. K-5 IIs and FA*300/2.8 at ISO3200
>>
>> http://www.heime.org/image.axd?picture=%2f2013%2f09%2fK5C_2094.jpg
>> Wolverine. K-5 IIs and FA*300/2.8 at ISO3200
>>
>> http://www.heime.org/image.axd?picture=%2f2013%2f09%2fK5C_2342.jpg
>> Eagles. K-5 IIs and F*250-600/5.6 at ISO400
>>
>>
>> More pictures are here:
>> http://www.heime.org/post/Finland-Dag-1
>> http://www.heime.org/post/Finland-Dag-2
>> http://www.heime.org/post/Finland-Dag-3
>> http://www.heime.org/post/Finland-Dag-4
>> (Norwegian text on these ones. )
>>
>> Stig Vidar Hovland
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PESO industrial man

[Bruce Walker]

Nico Skellington is one of the multi-talented folks at Metropolis
Factory in The Junction Triangle area of Toronto:

http://www.flickriver.com/bruce_m_walker/9922413143/

K20D, DA* 16-50/2.8 @ 31mm/f:5, 1/180th, ISO 640.
AF540FGZ on camera with StoFen white diffuser.

MF is housed in an old power station where they create industrial
themed furniture and sculpture from recycled, vintage and found
materials. Besides workshops and showrooms, the building is also a
large event hosting space.

A gallery with more, including previous shown shots from an artisans event:

http://www.flickriver.com/bruce_m_walker/sets/72157635857960425/

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RE: Bears in Finland

[Kenneth Waller]

Was this on a game preserve or similar compound?


-Original Message-
>From: SV Hovland 
>Subject: RE: Bears in Finland
>
>http://album.heime.org/album/diverse/k7a_7530.jpg
>
>This is from the largest hide for four peoples. But most where smaller and 
>meant for two or three.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John
>Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 6:12 PM
>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>Subject: Re: Bears in Finland
>
>Very nice. I wonder, did you take any photos of the blind to show what 
>conditions for the photographer were like?
>
>On 9/24/2013 10:54 AM, Alan C wrote:
>> Very interesting shots of the Bear, Wolf & Wolverine. I haven't seen 
>> any of them in the wild. Quite fortunate some still survive in Europe. 
>> The eagles are magnificent.
>>
>> Alan
>>
>> -Original Message- From: SV Hovland
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 7:48 AM
>> To: pdml@pdml.net
>> Subject: Bears in Finland
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> I had a 5 day trip to Finland last week to photograph bears. It was 
>> together with a group from Stavanger and we where 10 persons. We was 
>> picked up at the airport in Kajaani and drove to the Russian border.
>>
>> Before I left Stavanger, I crossed all my fingers for at lest one bear 
>> to see, but we had up to six almost every evening and also saw wolves, 
>> wolverines and eagles.
>>
>> http://www.heime.org/image.axd?picture=%2f2013%2f09%2fIMGP8009.jpg
>> This is a picture of a wolf. Taken with K-01 and FA*300/2.8 at ISO9000
>>
>> http://www.heime.org/image.axd?picture=%2f2013%2f09%2fK5C_2528.jpg
>> And a bear only 10 meters away. K-5 IIs and FA*300/2.8 at ISO3200
>>
>> http://www.heime.org/image.axd?picture=%2f2013%2f09%2fK5C_2094.jpg
>> Wolverine. K-5 IIs and FA*300/2.8 at ISO3200
>>
>> http://www.heime.org/image.axd?picture=%2f2013%2f09%2fK5C_2342.jpg
>> Eagles. K-5 IIs and F*250-600/5.6 at ISO400
>>
>>
>> More pictures are here:
>> http://www.heime.org/post/Finland-Dag-1
>> http://www.heime.org/post/Finland-Dag-2
>> http://www.heime.org/post/Finland-Dag-3
>> http://www.heime.org/post/Finland-Dag-4
>> (Norwegian text on these ones. )
>>
>> Stig Vidar Hovland



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Re: Bibi, Bibi, Yea!

[Steve Cottrell]

On 24/9/13, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

>There's an exhibition coming up at the Photographers' Gallery in London of
>pictures by J-H Lartigue:
>
>
>
>I plan to see it at least once, so if anyone's interested and wants to see
>it with me, let me know and we'll see what we can arrange.

Yes I could well be up for that. Stef might want to join us.

When were you thinking?

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Re: Bibi, Bibi, Yea!

[Bob W]

they're French.

> On 24 Sep 2013, at 23:08, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> 
> Gotta wonder if that photo of Bibi on the toilet factors into their
> eventual separation. ;-)
> 
>> On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Bob W  wrote:
>> There's an exhibition coming up at the Photographers' Gallery in London of
>> pictures by J-H Lartigue:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I plan to see it at least once, so if anyone's interested and wants to see
>> it with me, let me know and we'll see what we can arrange.
>> 
>> B

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Re: PESO - Checking the Accommodation

[Brian Walters]

Quoting eactiv...@aol.com:


Really nice shot. I'd darken it up just a  little, seems a bit washed out.



Thanks, Marnie.  It looks OK here - best I check my monitor...


Cheers

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HTH, Marnie aka Doe :-)

In a  message dated 9/23/2013 3:31:17 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
apathy...@lyons-ryan.org writes:
G'day all

Here's one taken in my  backyard and not on my USA  trip:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP4839-K5-1peso.ht
ml


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Re: Nice little bit of recognition

[Brian Walters]

Quoting Mark Roberts :


The National Association of Photoshop Professionals currently has one
of my photos featured as an "Editor's Pick" on their web site. Check
out the NAPP Members Portfolio Gallery at
http://members.photoshopuser.com/portfolio/
(I'm pretty sure non-members can view that part of the site)
It's my "Cathedral of Trees" shot from Northern Ireland - third from
the left under the words "Editors Picks".



Congratulations.  That was one of my favourites in the 2012 Annual.

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Re: Bibi, Bibi, Yea!

[Bruce Walker]

Gotta wonder if that photo of Bibi on the toilet factors into their
eventual separation. ;-)

On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Bob W  wrote:
> There's an exhibition coming up at the Photographers' Gallery in London of
> pictures by J-H Lartigue:
>
> 
>
> I plan to see it at least once, so if anyone's interested and wants to see
> it with me, let me know and we'll see what we can arrange.
>
> B
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Re: Bears in Finland

[Ann Sanfedele]

I thought that was true with the Wolf and wolverines, Ken - but
The bear shot didn't suffer much - thought that was quite good
and lighting nice.

Stig, are those "bataleur" eagles do you know?

ann

On 9/24/2013 15:12, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:

I'd offer to bring my lighting gear, but would have to leave setting
the softbox up near the bear to you, Ken. ;-)


Only if I can get the glint in their eyes!

Its frustrating to invest the time and money on trips such as this to
exotic shooting places only to have crappy weather/light limit the
experience. You take what you can get and maybe go back at another time.

At those high ISO's and  large apertures the lighting must have really
been bad.

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http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - From: "Bruce Walker" 
Subject: Re: Bears in Finland



I'd offer to bring my lighting gear, but would have to leave setting
the softbox up near the bear to you, Ken. ;-)


On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 2:26 PM,   wrote:

Nice work. The Eagles shot really stands out!

Too bad about the light in the others.

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- Original Message - From: "SV Hovland" 
Subject: Bears in Finland




Hi

I had a 5 day trip to Finland last week to photograph bears. It was
together with a group from Stavanger and we where 10 persons. We was
picked
up at the airport in Kajaani and drove to the Russian border.

Before I left Stavanger, I crossed all my fingers for at lest one
bear to
see, but we had up to six almost every evening and also saw wolves,
wolverines and eagles.

http://www.heime.org/image.axd?picture=%2f2013%2f09%2fIMGP8009.jpg
This is a picture of a wolf. Taken with K-01 and FA*300/2.8 at ISO9000

http://www.heime.org/image.axd?picture=%2f2013%2f09%2fK5C_2528.jpg
And a bear only 10 meters away. K-5 IIs and FA*300/2.8 at ISO3200

http://www.heime.org/image.axd?picture=%2f2013%2f09%2fK5C_2094.jpg
Wolverine. K-5 IIs and FA*300/2.8 at ISO3200

http://www.heime.org/image.axd?picture=%2f2013%2f09%2fK5C_2342.jpg
Eagles. K-5 IIs and F*250-600/5.6 at ISO400


More pictures are here:
http://www.heime.org/post/Finland-Dag-1
http://www.heime.org/post/Finland-Dag-2
http://www.heime.org/post/Finland-Dag-3
http://www.heime.org/post/Finland-Dag-4
(Norwegian text on these ones. )

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Re: OT A story of note

[Aahz Maruch]

On Tue, Sep 24, 2013, Larry Colen wrote:
>
> With all the music discussion lately, I just ran across this on 
> that timesuck website and suspect that a few people on this list
> would appreciate it.
> 
> C, E-flat, and G go into a bar.  [...]

What do you get when you toss a piano down a mineshaft?

A-flat minor
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Re: You didn't hear it from me...

[Darren Addy]

New rumor that the K-3 will be offically announced on Oct. 8th.

On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 4:12 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 08:00:37PM +0100, Chris Mitchell wrote:
>> It sounds a bit like the book dealing hobby (sorry, business) that
>> Christine A's Darrel runs.
>>
>> An old guitar mate of mine contends that if you know how many guitars
>> you've got, you haven't got enough. The same adage applies to lenses.
>
> By that standard, my sister has enough horses.
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Re: You didn't hear it from me...

[Larry Colen]

On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 08:00:37PM +0100, Chris Mitchell wrote:
> It sounds a bit like the book dealing hobby (sorry, business) that
> Christine A's Darrel runs.
> 
> An old guitar mate of mine contends that if you know how many guitars
> you've got, you haven't got enough. The same adage applies to lenses.

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OT A story of note

[Larry Colen]

With all the music discussion lately, I just ran across this on 
that timesuck website and suspect that a few people on this list
would appreciate it.

C, E-flat, and G go into a bar. The bartender says, "Sorry, but we don't serve 
minors." So E-flat leaves, and C and G have an open fifth between them. After a 
few drinks, the fifth is diminished, and G is out flat. F comes in and tries to 
augment the situation, but is not sharp enough. D comes in and heads for the 
bathroom, saying, "Excuse me; I'll just be a second." Then A comes in, but the 
bartender is not convinced that this relative of C is not a minor. Then the 
bartender notices B-flat hiding at the end of the bar and says, "Get out! 
You're the seventh minor I've found in this bar tonight." E-flat comes back the 
next night in a three-piece suit with nicely shined shoes. The bartender says, 
"You're looking sharp tonight. Come on in, this could be a major development." 
Sure enough, E-flat soon takes off his suit and everything else, and is au 
natural. Eventually C sobers up and realizes in horror that he's under a rest. 
C is brought to trial, found guilty of contributing to the di
 minution of a minor, and is sentenced to 10 years of D.S. without Coda at an 
upscale correctional facility.

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RE: Bears in Finland

[SV Hovland]

http://album.heime.org/album/diverse/k7a_7530.jpg

This is from the largest hide for four peoples. But most where smaller and 
meant for two or three.

-Original Message-
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 6:12 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: Bears in Finland

Very nice. I wonder, did you take any photos of the blind to show what 
conditions for the photographer were like?

On 9/24/2013 10:54 AM, Alan C wrote:
> Very interesting shots of the Bear, Wolf & Wolverine. I haven't seen 
> any of them in the wild. Quite fortunate some still survive in Europe. 
> The eagles are magnificent.
>
> Alan
>
> -Original Message- From: SV Hovland
> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 7:48 AM
> To: pdml@pdml.net
> Subject: Bears in Finland
>
> Hi
>
> I had a 5 day trip to Finland last week to photograph bears. It was 
> together with a group from Stavanger and we where 10 persons. We was 
> picked up at the airport in Kajaani and drove to the Russian border.
>
> Before I left Stavanger, I crossed all my fingers for at lest one bear 
> to see, but we had up to six almost every evening and also saw wolves, 
> wolverines and eagles.
>
> http://www.heime.org/image.axd?picture=%2f2013%2f09%2fIMGP8009.jpg
> This is a picture of a wolf. Taken with K-01 and FA*300/2.8 at ISO9000
>
> http://www.heime.org/image.axd?picture=%2f2013%2f09%2fK5C_2528.jpg
> And a bear only 10 meters away. K-5 IIs and FA*300/2.8 at ISO3200
>
> http://www.heime.org/image.axd?picture=%2f2013%2f09%2fK5C_2094.jpg
> Wolverine. K-5 IIs and FA*300/2.8 at ISO3200
>
> http://www.heime.org/image.axd?picture=%2f2013%2f09%2fK5C_2342.jpg
> Eagles. K-5 IIs and F*250-600/5.6 at ISO400
>
>
> More pictures are here:
> http://www.heime.org/post/Finland-Dag-1
> http://www.heime.org/post/Finland-Dag-2
> http://www.heime.org/post/Finland-Dag-3
> http://www.heime.org/post/Finland-Dag-4
> (Norwegian text on these ones. )
>
> Stig Vidar Hovland

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Bibi, Bibi, Yea!

[Bob W]

There's an exhibition coming up at the Photographers' Gallery in London of
pictures by J-H Lartigue:



I plan to see it at least once, so if anyone's interested and wants to see
it with me, let me know and we'll see what we can arrange.

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Re: Ricoh "what if"

[Zos Xavius]

PS: Lets face it. The FF DSLR market is like 5% of the overall market.
It would make very little sense for Pentax to just introduce another
"me too" DSLR with a limited lens selection and hope to compete with
Canikon or even Sony, which all have extensive lens lineups. The pros
that really wanted FF jumped ship a long time ago. Now the market is
the people that *think* they need FF (and probably don't).

On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Zos Xavius  wrote:
> I personally think (and hope) they go for a mirrorless solution with a
> super short flange distance that will adapt any other system's full
> frame lenses. Since they need to create a bunch of new lenses for full
> frame they might as well start from scratch like sony did with
> e-mount. Being able to adapt foreign system glass would win converts
> as well that are afraid to abandon their investments. On the other
> hand they could go totally old school and keep k-mount. I'd be more
> than ok with that too
>
> On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 3:19 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
>> On Sep 24, 2013, at 11:28 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 01:14:54PM -0500, Darren Addy wrote:
 What are you calling "traditional Leica glass"?
 M-mount has a 27.8mm flange to film/sensor distance.
 M39 is 28.8.
 Leica R-mount is 47mm (longer than the "kludge" K-mount 45.46.)
>>>
>> When used in a sentence, “traditional Leica glass" is nearly always 
>> referring to Leica M-bayonet and Leica Thread Mount (LTM). While the 
>> specific mount registration differences are 1mm apart, M-mount is the more 
>> universal design as it is the shortest registration and was designed so that 
>> LTM could be easily adapted to it (since M-mount bodies followed LTM bodies, 
>> it didn’t make sense to design for M-mount adaptation to LTM to Leitz).
>>
>> Leica R mount lenses are for their SLR line, in which there are five 
>> different (but mostly interchangeable) detail differences depending on year 
>> of manufacture and the specific lens in question. Leica (and others) also 
>> makes adapters to allow R-mount lenses to be used on M-mount, of course 
>> without mechanical rangefinder support since R lenses do not have the RF 
>> cam. Note: The Leica M (Type 240) allows full-field focusing and viewing 
>> with R lenses via Live View using the LCD or optional EVF.
>>
>> In addition to M-bayonet, LTM, and R-bayonet, Leica also has Visoflex mount 
>> (version I = 91.3mm, version II, III = 68.8mm), and manufactured longer 
>> lenses with these mountings as native so that they could be used on both the 
>> RF and SLR cameras using the appropriate adapters.
>>
>>> Oh well, it was a nice theory.  Since folks seem to be able to use
>>> Pentax glass on their ricoh m-modules I thought it had  a short
>>> registration distance.
>>
>> To use Pentax SLR lenses on the GXR A12 Camera Mount, all you need is a 
>> Pentax M42 or K-mount to Leica M-bayonet mount adapter. I have both. You can 
>> nearly always adapt a *lens designed for a deep mount register* to a *body 
>> with a shorter mount register*. The A12 Camera mount is M-bayonet register 
>> depth, 27.8mm.
>>
 I've been thinking about upcoming cameras from a Pentax-centric point
 of view.  We keep asking for a Pentax "full frame" camera, and the
 latest rumors seem to have being mirrorless.  There are a lot of
 technical advantages in terms of light path to mirrorless, and there is
 the advantage of you see what the sensor sees.

 But, using K-mount for mirrorless is a kludge.  You lose the short
 registration distance advantage, without kludging lenses that have
 elements that extend past the mount.
>>
>> I agree.
>>
 But the company isn't Pentax, it's Ricoh.  And they have already
 made an interchangeable lens camera with a well defined, full
 frame capable, mirrorless mount.  The GXR Leica mount module.
>>
>> This should be qualified. Leica, just like Nikon and Pentax, deemed that it 
>> was more important to maintain compatibility with their existing lens lines 
>> than to redesign the lens mount on the M and F mount bodies, respectively. 
>> However, neither M nor F mounts are ideal for 24x36mm digital sensors—they 
>> can be made to work, but ideally a lens mount for a digital sensor should be 
>> larger diameter relative to the format and a shorter registration distance, 
>> to enable more flexibility in lens design for the digital capture medium.
>>
>> Canon was roundly dissed when they obsoleted the FL/FD mount in the 1980s 
>> and thereby obsoleted many owners' expensive lens collections. However, they 
>> were prescient in developing the EOS mount which is huge diameter (about 
>> 51mm) and a relatively short (44mm) register. The change has stood them in 
>> good stead in the long term, although it cost them a lot of customers once 
>> upon a time.
>>
>> Olympus was unsuccessful in bringing out an auto-focus SLR lineup and had 
>> pretty much left their pro syst

Re: Nice little bit of recognition

[Mark Roberts]

Interestingly, I only found the "Editors Picks" page by accident when
searching for material for class - apparently one doesn't get notified
of a shot being an Editors Pick. Not that it's a big deal. (There's no
prize other than being able to tell the PDML and Facebook friends
about it.) I was wondering why that particular photo had suddenly
picked up a bunch of comments. And the thing is, several of my other
shots suddenly sprouted comments in the past few weeks. Perhaps they
were "Editors Picks" some time ago? There's no way to find out, as far
as I can tell. 
 
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Re: Ricoh "what if"

[Zos Xavius]

I personally think (and hope) they go for a mirrorless solution with a
super short flange distance that will adapt any other system's full
frame lenses. Since they need to create a bunch of new lenses for full
frame they might as well start from scratch like sony did with
e-mount. Being able to adapt foreign system glass would win converts
as well that are afraid to abandon their investments. On the other
hand they could go totally old school and keep k-mount. I'd be more
than ok with that too

On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 3:19 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> On Sep 24, 2013, at 11:28 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 01:14:54PM -0500, Darren Addy wrote:
>>> What are you calling "traditional Leica glass"?
>>> M-mount has a 27.8mm flange to film/sensor distance.
>>> M39 is 28.8.
>>> Leica R-mount is 47mm (longer than the "kludge" K-mount 45.46.)
>>
> When used in a sentence, “traditional Leica glass" is nearly always referring 
> to Leica M-bayonet and Leica Thread Mount (LTM). While the specific mount 
> registration differences are 1mm apart, M-mount is the more universal design 
> as it is the shortest registration and was designed so that LTM could be 
> easily adapted to it (since M-mount bodies followed LTM bodies, it didn’t 
> make sense to design for M-mount adaptation to LTM to Leitz).
>
> Leica R mount lenses are for their SLR line, in which there are five 
> different (but mostly interchangeable) detail differences depending on year 
> of manufacture and the specific lens in question. Leica (and others) also 
> makes adapters to allow R-mount lenses to be used on M-mount, of course 
> without mechanical rangefinder support since R lenses do not have the RF cam. 
> Note: The Leica M (Type 240) allows full-field focusing and viewing with R 
> lenses via Live View using the LCD or optional EVF.
>
> In addition to M-bayonet, LTM, and R-bayonet, Leica also has Visoflex mount 
> (version I = 91.3mm, version II, III = 68.8mm), and manufactured longer 
> lenses with these mountings as native so that they could be used on both the 
> RF and SLR cameras using the appropriate adapters.
>
>> Oh well, it was a nice theory.  Since folks seem to be able to use
>> Pentax glass on their ricoh m-modules I thought it had  a short
>> registration distance.
>
> To use Pentax SLR lenses on the GXR A12 Camera Mount, all you need is a 
> Pentax M42 or K-mount to Leica M-bayonet mount adapter. I have both. You can 
> nearly always adapt a *lens designed for a deep mount register* to a *body 
> with a shorter mount register*. The A12 Camera mount is M-bayonet register 
> depth, 27.8mm.
>
>>> I've been thinking about upcoming cameras from a Pentax-centric point
>>> of view.  We keep asking for a Pentax "full frame" camera, and the
>>> latest rumors seem to have being mirrorless.  There are a lot of
>>> technical advantages in terms of light path to mirrorless, and there is
>>> the advantage of you see what the sensor sees.
>>>
>>> But, using K-mount for mirrorless is a kludge.  You lose the short
>>> registration distance advantage, without kludging lenses that have
>>> elements that extend past the mount.
>
> I agree.
>
>>> But the company isn't Pentax, it's Ricoh.  And they have already
>>> made an interchangeable lens camera with a well defined, full
>>> frame capable, mirrorless mount.  The GXR Leica mount module.
>
> This should be qualified. Leica, just like Nikon and Pentax, deemed that it 
> was more important to maintain compatibility with their existing lens lines 
> than to redesign the lens mount on the M and F mount bodies, respectively. 
> However, neither M nor F mounts are ideal for 24x36mm digital sensors—they 
> can be made to work, but ideally a lens mount for a digital sensor should be 
> larger diameter relative to the format and a shorter registration distance, 
> to enable more flexibility in lens design for the digital capture medium.
>
> Canon was roundly dissed when they obsoleted the FL/FD mount in the 1980s and 
> thereby obsoleted many owners' expensive lens collections. However, they were 
> prescient in developing the EOS mount which is huge diameter (about 51mm) and 
> a relatively short (44mm) register. The change has stood them in good stead 
> in the long term, although it cost them a lot of customers once upon a time.
>
> Olympus was unsuccessful in bringing out an auto-focus SLR lineup and had 
> pretty much left their pro system (OM) on the sidelines for years, delivering 
> a couple of new bodies and lenses only for the last decade of its production 
> history. When they started to think SLR with digital capture, they worked 
> with Kodak and developed the FourThirds mount, which has an even shorter 
> register than Canon EOS (38mm) and about the same outer diameter. This lens 
> mount is the only one in production that actually has the ideal sensor 
> size/diameter/register depth combination for digital capture SLRs and lenses 
> up to f/1.4 aperture settings. The Mi

Re: Nice little bit of recognition

[Eactivist]

Great shot. Congrats!, Mark.

Marnie aka  Doe 

In a message dated 9/24/2013 9:29:56 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
postmas...@robertstech.com writes:
The National Association of Photoshop  Professionals currently has one
of my photos featured as an "Editor's Pick"  on their web site. Check
out the NAPP Members Portfolio Gallery  at
http://members.photoshopuser.com/portfolio/
(I'm pretty sure  non-members can view that part of the site)
It's my "Cathedral of Trees" shot  from Northern Ireland - third from
the left under the words "Editors  Picks".

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Re: Ricoh "what if"

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Sep 24, 2013, at 11:28 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:

> On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 01:14:54PM -0500, Darren Addy wrote:
>> What are you calling "traditional Leica glass"?
>> M-mount has a 27.8mm flange to film/sensor distance.
>> M39 is 28.8.
>> Leica R-mount is 47mm (longer than the "kludge" K-mount 45.46.)
> 
When used in a sentence, “traditional Leica glass" is nearly always referring 
to Leica M-bayonet and Leica Thread Mount (LTM). While the specific mount 
registration differences are 1mm apart, M-mount is the more universal design as 
it is the shortest registration and was designed so that LTM could be easily 
adapted to it (since M-mount bodies followed LTM bodies, it didn’t make sense 
to design for M-mount adaptation to LTM to Leitz). 

Leica R mount lenses are for their SLR line, in which there are five different 
(but mostly interchangeable) detail differences depending on year of 
manufacture and the specific lens in question. Leica (and others) also makes 
adapters to allow R-mount lenses to be used on M-mount, of course without 
mechanical rangefinder support since R lenses do not have the RF cam. Note: The 
Leica M (Type 240) allows full-field focusing and viewing with R lenses via 
Live View using the LCD or optional EVF.

In addition to M-bayonet, LTM, and R-bayonet, Leica also has Visoflex mount 
(version I = 91.3mm, version II, III = 68.8mm), and manufactured longer lenses 
with these mountings as native so that they could be used on both the RF and 
SLR cameras using the appropriate adapters. 

> Oh well, it was a nice theory.  Since folks seem to be able to use 
> Pentax glass on their ricoh m-modules I thought it had  a short
> registration distance.

To use Pentax SLR lenses on the GXR A12 Camera Mount, all you need is a Pentax 
M42 or K-mount to Leica M-bayonet mount adapter. I have both. You can nearly 
always adapt a *lens designed for a deep mount register* to a *body with a 
shorter mount register*. The A12 Camera mount is M-bayonet register depth, 
27.8mm. 

>> I've been thinking about upcoming cameras from a Pentax-centric point
>> of view.  We keep asking for a Pentax "full frame" camera, and the 
>> latest rumors seem to have being mirrorless.  There are a lot of 
>> technical advantages in terms of light path to mirrorless, and there is
>> the advantage of you see what the sensor sees.  
>> 
>> But, using K-mount for mirrorless is a kludge.  You lose the short
>> registration distance advantage, without kludging lenses that have
>> elements that extend past the mount.

I agree. 

>> But the company isn't Pentax, it's Ricoh.  And they have already 
>> made an interchangeable lens camera with a well defined, full 
>> frame capable, mirrorless mount.  The GXR Leica mount module.

This should be qualified. Leica, just like Nikon and Pentax, deemed that it was 
more important to maintain compatibility with their existing lens lines than to 
redesign the lens mount on the M and F mount bodies, respectively. However, 
neither M nor F mounts are ideal for 24x36mm digital sensors—they can be made 
to work, but ideally a lens mount for a digital sensor should be larger 
diameter relative to the format and a shorter registration distance, to enable 
more flexibility in lens design for the digital capture medium. 

Canon was roundly dissed when they obsoleted the FL/FD mount in the 1980s and 
thereby obsoleted many owners' expensive lens collections. However, they were 
prescient in developing the EOS mount which is huge diameter (about 51mm) and a 
relatively short (44mm) register. The change has stood them in good stead in 
the long term, although it cost them a lot of customers once upon a time. 

Olympus was unsuccessful in bringing out an auto-focus SLR lineup and had 
pretty much left their pro system (OM) on the sidelines for years, delivering a 
couple of new bodies and lenses only for the last decade of its production 
history. When they started to think SLR with digital capture, they worked with 
Kodak and developed the FourThirds mount, which has an even shorter register 
than Canon EOS (38mm) and about the same outer diameter. This lens mount is the 
only one in production that actually has the ideal sensor 
size/diameter/register depth combination for digital capture SLRs and lenses up 
to f/1.4 aperture settings. The Micro-FourThirds design is essentially the 
same, scaling down the bayonet diameter along with the register depth to 
maintain the same characteristics, and allowing for more compact body 
designs—it was only made possible by the invention of high-resolution EVFs and 
large sensors with Live View capability. 

>> What if the new high end, full frame sensor, camera coming from 
>> Ricoh were not a Pentax mount, but a Leica mount?  Ideally a mount
>> that is mechanically compatible with traditional Leica glass, but
>> with contacts for autofocus etc.  And what if, just for the hell 
>> of it, they also sold an adapter that allowed use of K-mount lenses
>> in full a

Re: Bears in Finland

[kwaller]

I'd offer to bring my lighting gear, but would have to leave setting
the softbox up near the bear to you, Ken. ;-)


Only if I can get the glint in their eyes!

Its frustrating to invest the time and money on trips such as this to exotic 
shooting places only to have crappy weather/light limit the experience. You 
take what you can get and maybe go back at another time.


At those high ISO's and  large apertures the lighting must have really been 
bad.


Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - 
From: "Bruce Walker" 

Subject: Re: Bears in Finland



I'd offer to bring my lighting gear, but would have to leave setting
the softbox up near the bear to you, Ken. ;-)


On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 2:26 PM,   wrote:

Nice work. The Eagles shot really stands out!

Too bad about the light in the others.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - From: "SV Hovland" 
Subject: Bears in Finland




Hi

I had a 5 day trip to Finland last week to photograph bears. It was
together with a group from Stavanger and we where 10 persons. We was 
picked

up at the airport in Kajaani and drove to the Russian border.

Before I left Stavanger, I crossed all my fingers for at lest one bear 
to

see, but we had up to six almost every evening and also saw wolves,
wolverines and eagles.

http://www.heime.org/image.axd?picture=%2f2013%2f09%2fIMGP8009.jpg
This is a picture of a wolf. Taken with K-01 and FA*300/2.8 at ISO9000

http://www.heime.org/image.axd?picture=%2f2013%2f09%2fK5C_2528.jpg
And a bear only 10 meters away. K-5 IIs and FA*300/2.8 at ISO3200

http://www.heime.org/image.axd?picture=%2f2013%2f09%2fK5C_2094.jpg
Wolverine. K-5 IIs and FA*300/2.8 at ISO3200

http://www.heime.org/image.axd?picture=%2f2013%2f09%2fK5C_2342.jpg
Eagles. K-5 IIs and F*250-600/5.6 at ISO400


More pictures are here:
http://www.heime.org/post/Finland-Dag-1
http://www.heime.org/post/Finland-Dag-2
http://www.heime.org/post/Finland-Dag-3
http://www.heime.org/post/Finland-Dag-4
(Norwegian text on these ones. )

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Re: You didn't hear it from me...

[Chris Mitchell]

It sounds a bit like the book dealing hobby (sorry, business) that
Christine A's Darrel runs.

An old guitar mate of mine contends that if you know how many guitars
you've got, you haven't got enough. The same adage applies to lenses.

Chris

On 24 September 2013 16:41, John  wrote:
> On 9/23/2013 10:03 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 07:03:08PM -0600, steve harley wrote:
>>>
>>> on 2013-09-23 8:29 John wrote

 Word of warning, once guitars get their hooks into you they're more
 expensive than cameras (but not as much as good lenses to go on those
 cameras).
>>>
>>>
>>> i know a fellow who is afflicted with GBA and has some number of
>>> guitars (maybe 8?) most of which probably cost more than the list
>>> price of any of the DA* lenses
>>
>>
>> I've got a friend with a bit of that affliction, and manages a local music
>> store.
>>
>>
>
> Music stores are as much of a menace as camera stores.
>
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Re: PESO A scene from near the end of my walk.

[Chris Mitchell]

Nice shot Eric and good that you finished the walk in spite of all of
the foot problems.

Did you partake of Cromer crab? (that's a gastronomic delicacy, not an
embarrassing disease)

Chris

On 24 September 2013 11:01, Eric Weir  wrote:
>
> Street scene from the older part of Cromer, where my walk ended.
> 
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Re: Bears in Finland

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Marvelous!

The eagle "dogfight' I definitely a special image.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 1:48 AM, SV Hovland  wrote:
> Hi
>
> I had a 5 day trip to Finland last week to photograph bears. It was together 
> with a group from Stavanger and we where 10 persons. We was picked up at the 
> airport in Kajaani and drove to the Russian border.
>
> Before I left Stavanger, I crossed all my fingers for at lest one bear to 
> see, but we had up to six almost every evening and also saw wolves, 
> wolverines and eagles.
>
> http://www.heime.org/image.axd?picture=%2f2013%2f09%2fIMGP8009.jpg
> This is a picture of a wolf. Taken with K-01 and FA*300/2.8 at ISO9000
>
> http://www.heime.org/image.axd?picture=%2f2013%2f09%2fK5C_2528.jpg
> And a bear only 10 meters away. K-5 IIs and FA*300/2.8 at ISO3200
>
> http://www.heime.org/image.axd?picture=%2f2013%2f09%2fK5C_2094.jpg
> Wolverine. K-5 IIs and FA*300/2.8 at ISO3200
>
> http://www.heime.org/image.axd?picture=%2f2013%2f09%2fK5C_2342.jpg
> Eagles. K-5 IIs and F*250-600/5.6 at ISO400
>
>
> More pictures are here:
> http://www.heime.org/post/Finland-Dag-1
> http://www.heime.org/post/Finland-Dag-2
> http://www.heime.org/post/Finland-Dag-3
> http://www.heime.org/post/Finland-Dag-4
> (Norwegian text on these ones. )
>
> Stig Vidar Hovland
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Re: Bears in Finland

[Bruce Walker]

I'd offer to bring my lighting gear, but would have to leave setting
the softbox up near the bear to you, Ken. ;-)


On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 2:26 PM,   wrote:
> Nice work. The Eagles shot really stands out!
>
> Too bad about the light in the others.
>
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
>
> - Original Message - From: "SV Hovland" 
> Subject: Bears in Finland
>
>
>
>> Hi
>>
>> I had a 5 day trip to Finland last week to photograph bears. It was
>> together with a group from Stavanger and we where 10 persons. We was picked
>> up at the airport in Kajaani and drove to the Russian border.
>>
>> Before I left Stavanger, I crossed all my fingers for at lest one bear to
>> see, but we had up to six almost every evening and also saw wolves,
>> wolverines and eagles.
>>
>> http://www.heime.org/image.axd?picture=%2f2013%2f09%2fIMGP8009.jpg
>> This is a picture of a wolf. Taken with K-01 and FA*300/2.8 at ISO9000
>>
>> http://www.heime.org/image.axd?picture=%2f2013%2f09%2fK5C_2528.jpg
>> And a bear only 10 meters away. K-5 IIs and FA*300/2.8 at ISO3200
>>
>> http://www.heime.org/image.axd?picture=%2f2013%2f09%2fK5C_2094.jpg
>> Wolverine. K-5 IIs and FA*300/2.8 at ISO3200
>>
>> http://www.heime.org/image.axd?picture=%2f2013%2f09%2fK5C_2342.jpg
>> Eagles. K-5 IIs and F*250-600/5.6 at ISO400
>>
>>
>> More pictures are here:
>> http://www.heime.org/post/Finland-Dag-1
>> http://www.heime.org/post/Finland-Dag-2
>> http://www.heime.org/post/Finland-Dag-3
>> http://www.heime.org/post/Finland-Dag-4
>> (Norwegian text on these ones. )
>>
>> Stig Vidar Hovland
>
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Re: Nice little bit of recognition

[kwaller]

Congrats!

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Subject: Nice little bit of recognition



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Re: Ricoh "what if"

[Larry Colen]

On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 01:14:54PM -0500, Darren Addy wrote:
> What are you calling "traditional Leica glass"?
> M-mount has a 27.8mm flange to film/sensor distance.
> M39 is 28.8.
> Leica R-mount is 47mm (longer than the "kludge" K-mount 45.46.)

Oh well, it was a nice theory.  Since folks seem to be able to use 
Pentax glass on their ricoh m-modules I thought it had  a short
registration distance.

> 
> PS... would you please be so kind as to pass along the name and number
> of your pharmacist?
> : )

I don't have a pharmacist.  That might be my problem.


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Re: Bears in Finland

[kwaller]

Nice work. The Eagles shot really stands out!

Too bad about the light in the others.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - 
From: "SV Hovland" 

Subject: Bears in Finland



Hi

I had a 5 day trip to Finland last week to photograph bears. It was 
together with a group from Stavanger and we where 10 persons. We was 
picked up at the airport in Kajaani and drove to the Russian border.


Before I left Stavanger, I crossed all my fingers for at lest one bear to 
see, but we had up to six almost every evening and also saw wolves, 
wolverines and eagles.


http://www.heime.org/image.axd?picture=%2f2013%2f09%2fIMGP8009.jpg
This is a picture of a wolf. Taken with K-01 and FA*300/2.8 at ISO9000

http://www.heime.org/image.axd?picture=%2f2013%2f09%2fK5C_2528.jpg
And a bear only 10 meters away. K-5 IIs and FA*300/2.8 at ISO3200

http://www.heime.org/image.axd?picture=%2f2013%2f09%2fK5C_2094.jpg
Wolverine. K-5 IIs and FA*300/2.8 at ISO3200

http://www.heime.org/image.axd?picture=%2f2013%2f09%2fK5C_2342.jpg
Eagles. K-5 IIs and F*250-600/5.6 at ISO400


More pictures are here:
http://www.heime.org/post/Finland-Dag-1
http://www.heime.org/post/Finland-Dag-2
http://www.heime.org/post/Finland-Dag-3
http://www.heime.org/post/Finland-Dag-4
(Norwegian text on these ones. )

Stig Vidar Hovland



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Re: PESO A scene from near the end of my walk.

[Bob W]

Glad you got to the end in one piece. I was thinking about you earlier, that 
you must be finished by now.

Nice shot, but it's a shame the street's not cobbled.

B

> On 24 Sep 2013, at 11:01, Eric Weir  wrote:
> 
> 
> Street scene from the older part of Cromer, where my walk ended. 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: It is hearby resolved

[steve harley]

on 2013-09-23 20:28 Larry Colen wrote

But what if we could increase sensor resolution several times
past that, to three, or even ten times the imaging capability
of the best lenses?


Nokia seems to be working on that; their theory is that oversampling has some 
benefit



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Re: Ricoh "what if"

[Darren Addy]

What are you calling "traditional Leica glass"?
M-mount has a 27.8mm flange to film/sensor distance.
M39 is 28.8.
Leica R-mount is 47mm (longer than the "kludge" K-mount 45.46.)

PS... would you please be so kind as to pass along the name and number
of your pharmacist?
: )






On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 1:02 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> I've been thinking about upcoming cameras from a Pentax-centric point
> of view.  We keep asking for a Pentax "full frame" camera, and the
> latest rumors seem to have being mirrorless.  There are a lot of
> technical advantages in terms of light path to mirrorless, and there is
> the advantage of you see what the sensor sees.
>
> But, using K-mount for mirrorless is a kludge.  You lose the short
> registration distance advantage, without kludging lenses that have
> elements that extend past the mount.
>
> But the company isn't Pentax, it's Ricoh.  And they have already
> made an interchangeable lens camera with a well defined, full
> frame capable, mirrorless mount.  The GXR Leica mount module.
>
> What if the new high end, full frame sensor, camera coming from
> Ricoh were not a Pentax mount, but a Leica mount?  Ideally a mount
> that is mechanically compatible with traditional Leica glass, but
> with contacts for autofocus etc.  And what if, just for the hell
> of it, they also sold an adapter that allowed use of K-mount lenses
> in full auto focus?  Even if it were just full autofocus on the SDM
> lenses.
>
> When you get down to it, Ricoh does almost sound like Leica said
> with a Japanese accent.
>
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Ricoh "what if"

[Larry Colen]

I've been thinking about upcoming cameras from a Pentax-centric point
of view.  We keep asking for a Pentax "full frame" camera, and the 
latest rumors seem to have being mirrorless.  There are a lot of 
technical advantages in terms of light path to mirrorless, and there is
the advantage of you see what the sensor sees.  

But, using K-mount for mirrorless is a kludge.  You lose the short
registration distance advantage, without kludging lenses that have
elements that extend past the mount.

But the company isn't Pentax, it's Ricoh.  And they have already 
made an interchangeable lens camera with a well defined, full 
frame capable, mirrorless mount.  The GXR Leica mount module.

What if the new high end, full frame sensor, camera coming from 
Ricoh were not a Pentax mount, but a Leica mount?  Ideally a mount
that is mechanically compatible with traditional Leica glass, but
with contacts for autofocus etc.  And what if, just for the hell 
of it, they also sold an adapter that allowed use of K-mount lenses
in full auto focus?  Even if it were just full autofocus on the SDM
lenses.

When you get down to it, Ricoh does almost sound like Leica said 
with a Japanese accent.

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Re: You didn't hear it from me...

[Larry Colen]

On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 11:50:20AM -0600, steve harley wrote:
> on 2013-09-24 7:20 Tom C wrote
> 
> i wasn't accusing you of interpreting the resolution numbers
> recklessly, i was accusing you of missing the point ;?>

Paging Mr. Roberts to the white courtesy phone.


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Re: OT George Hurrell: Legends in Light (video)

[Darren Addy]

Haven't watched more than the beginning, but if you don't mind
sacrificing the eyes of a portrait subject, then his style is fine.
But if you believe that the eyes are the windows to the soul, then the
way he often leaves the top half of the eyes (or more) in no-detail
darkness is a little maddening. Perhaps some of the images were taken
when he was just learning, but if you just look at the shadows on the
faces, he makes some really bad choices on many of the women.


On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> A very good doc on legendary Hollywood photographer George Hurrell,
> who arrived in Laguna Beach as a painter and only got into photography
> to pay the bills.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bn-LEt8dQQM1992; 56 minutes.
>
> Could have been edited a bunch; at times a languorous pace. Many
> insights into how he created the glamorous portraits.
>
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