Re: Fwd: Re: PESO: K-3 moon shot for Larry
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 01:26:11AM -0600, Bill wrote: On 12/11/2013 7:43 PM, Larry Colen wrote: That is without a doubt the fuzziest Mon photo that I have ever seen. I've shot some pretty fuzzy mons in my time, let me tell you.. Whoops! typo. I should have taken more than a glans at what I was writing. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
GESO 2013 - 137, 138, 143, 144, 145, 146, 149, 147, 148 - GDG
I took a walk at lunch time and looked around me. http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10833833556/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10833772675/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10833771045/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10833940204/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10833937124/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10833765605/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10833813956/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10833759825/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10833756615/ All taken with Olympus E-M1 + Summilux-DG 25mm f/1.4 ASPH It was a good walk on a beautiful day. Thanks for looking. Comments appreciated. Godfrey http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Requisite K-3 test (Warning - feline content)
Nice fur but really serious kitten. On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 7:03 AM, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote: On Nov 13, 2013, at 2:16 pm, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: I realized that I had not seen a K-3 cat picture posted! So here is the missing link: http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p155717848/h355d86ba#h355d86ba Yay! Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO 2013 - 137, 138, 143, 144, 145, 146, 149, 147, 148 - GDG
I like Olive Grove, nice place to go for a walk. Leaf Dance #2 also caught my eye, I think it's form the same location. On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigio...@me.com wrote: I took a walk at lunch time and looked around me. http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10833833556/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10833772675/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10833771045/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10833940204/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10833937124/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10833765605/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10833813956/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10833759825/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10833756615/ All taken with Olympus E-M1 + Summilux-DG 25mm f/1.4 ASPH It was a good walk on a beautiful day. Thanks for looking. Comments appreciated. Godfrey http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Autumn in The Junction
We should trade some. Gonna be zero C here today. I just came in from raking leaves -- off for coffee! Thanks, Boris. On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 11:56 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: That's the kind of mood and weather I so much need to be in right now... Not gonna happen here though. Expecting in excess of +25C today. On 11/11/2013 5:55 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: I was enjoying an Americano in a boutique coffee place called Amani Earls in Toronto's Little Malta yesterday and idly staring across the street at this ... http://www.flickriver.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/10790449093/ Just had to rush back to the car and grab my camera. Comments welcome. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boris PESO #52 - Etude
Boris, Good picture, but it could use a bit of brightening in the foreground. Try a gradient filter in Lightroom. (I'll be sending your 77 in for service tomorrow, more moving today.) Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 10:55 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Ken. It is funny that you say the foreground is too dark. I thought that stones were rather bright though... On 11/12/2013 11:27 PM, Ken Waller wrote: Boris, it looks like this image could have benefited from the use of a split neutral density filter to bring out the detail in the foreground. Its too dark for my tastes - YMMV. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com Subject: Boris PESO #52 - Etude Hi! Here is that sunset shot I threatened Jostein wtih: http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2013/11/2013-52-etude.html Taken here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gezer My Heliar 15/4.5 sustained a fall and soon it will be on its way to CameraQuest from where it was bought just recently for repairs... Your comments are appreciated in advance. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - The Cruiser
Boris, You're seeing the front of the bike, just below the handlebars where the front fork comes up thru the frame. The front of the frame has a Firestone logo/nameplate. Slightly behind that is a fake of a motorcycle gas tank with an electric horn button. (All 12 year olds want a motorcycle instead of a bicycle.) Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not a bike person, Frank, and this time you got me bewildered (-- I think it is the right term here)... I totally don't get what I'm seeing... On 11/12/2013 4:59 AM, knarf wrote: I'd forgotten that Firestone made (or at least marketed) bikes until I saw this on the weekend: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/11/the-cruiser.html?m=1 I'll have to do a bit of research but I'd guess late fifties to early sixties, this one was all stock - even original paint. Quite lovely. Will show the full bike later but I really like the head badge and gas tank Hope you enjoy, too. Comments always welcome. Cheers, frank “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Recent PESOs
Thanks to all who took the time to look at my recent attempts at photography, and for taking the time to comment. I do appreciate it. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: Image transfers on wood
I was talking to someone a while back who does image transfers on wood using laser jet prints and gel medium. Well, naturally enough, I got to thinking it might be fun to try that with one of my images on a guitar -- either ordering a decent DIY electric kit, or taking the finish off an old, beat-up, but otherwise good, guitar and replacing it with a photo and refinishing it. I was wondering if anyone on the list had any experience with those kinds of transfers and/or whether anyone might know of any issues I'd run into in the finishing process (applying stains, clear coat, lacquer, varnish, what-have-you). I think it could potentially be a fun photographic project that would produce a nice custom (or keepsake, if you will) guitar if done well. But, I'd hate to get almost done and discover that it just won't work. I kind of like the idea of the challenge of composing and rendering a good image for that purpose, and I assume K-5 produces files suitable for use at that size (say a Fender Telecaster-style body). Anybody have any thoughts? -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-3 review as seen through the eyes of the PF
On 12/11/2013 11:20 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: Not trying to sound pessimistic or anything, but DR is the most important aspect to me. So I get to keep my K-5 for now. Out of curiosity, do you know what the DR of the K3 is (I don't)? The K5 is something like 14 stops at base ISO, which is something like 8 stops more than most people will encounter in real life picture taking situations. Extreme DR perhaps isn't as important as you think it needs to be, and the DR of the K3 seems ample, at least at lower ISOs. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - The Cruiser
Neat! I was unaware that Firestone built/branded bicycles. Godfrey On 11/12/2013 4:59 AM, knarf wrote: I'd forgotten that Firestone made (or at least marketed) bikes until I saw this on the weekend: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/11/the-cruiser.html?m=1 I'll have to do a bit of research but I'd guess late fifties to early sixties, this one was all stock - even original paint. Quite lovely. Will show the full bike later but I really like the head badge and gas tank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO 2013 - 137, 138, 143, 144, 145, 146, 149, 147, 148 - GDG
Thank you, Attila! Godfrey On Nov 13, 2013, at 5:29 AM, Attila Boros attila.p...@gmail.com wrote: I like Olive Grove, nice place to go for a walk. Leaf Dance #2 also caught my eye, I think it's form the same location. On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigio...@me.com wrote: I took a walk at lunch time and looked around me. http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10833833556/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10833772675/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10833771045/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10833940204/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10833937124/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10833765605/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10833813956/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10833759825/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10833756615/ All taken with Olympus E-M1 + Summilux-DG 25mm f/1.4 ASPH It was a good walk on a beautiful day. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-3 review as seen through the eyes of the PF
On Nov 13, 2013, at 9:49 AM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/11/2013 11:20 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: Not trying to sound pessimistic or anything, but DR is the most important aspect to me. So I get to keep my K-5 for now. Out of curiosity, do you know what the DR of the K3 is (I don't)? The K5 is something like 14 stops at base ISO, which is something like 8 stops more than most people will encounter in real life picture taking situations. Extreme DR perhaps isn't as important as you think it needs to be, and the DR of the K3 seems ample, at least at lower ISOs. bill I've wondered about this concern over DR myself. Compared to the slide film we all used to shoot, modern digital cameras have a huge range. I don't recall ever running out of latitude. (I grossly overexposed a white interior on a car shoot last summer when brain fade set in, but was easily able to retrieve detail in conversion.) I shot some ducks on a river that was offering some reflections of direct sunlight last weekend with the K-3 and didn't experience any difficulty. So far, it seems as forgiving as the K-5 in that regard. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-3 review as seen through the eyes of the PF
Bill, it is purely subjective. I have suffered enough grief from K-7's sensor and frankly, the way Pentax treats highlights in their RAW files seems to be rather unforgiving compared with those of Ricoh GXR (any module with 12MP sensor). So, I don't want to take any chances. On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/11/2013 11:20 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: Not trying to sound pessimistic or anything, but DR is the most important aspect to me. So I get to keep my K-5 for now. Out of curiosity, do you know what the DR of the K3 is (I don't)? The K5 is something like 14 stops at base ISO, which is something like 8 stops more than most people will encounter in real life picture taking situations. Extreme DR perhaps isn't as important as you think it needs to be, and the DR of the K3 seems ample, at least at lower ISOs. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-3 review as seen through the eyes of the PF
Paul, I would very much appreciate a screenshot or any other way I can see and examine where it shows how you recovered these overexposed shots. On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 5:45 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Nov 13, 2013, at 9:49 AM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/11/2013 11:20 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: Not trying to sound pessimistic or anything, but DR is the most important aspect to me. So I get to keep my K-5 for now. Out of curiosity, do you know what the DR of the K3 is (I don't)? The K5 is something like 14 stops at base ISO, which is something like 8 stops more than most people will encounter in real life picture taking situations. Extreme DR perhaps isn't as important as you think it needs to be, and the DR of the K3 seems ample, at least at lower ISOs. bill I've wondered about this concern over DR myself. Compared to the slide film we all used to shoot, modern digital cameras have a huge range. I don't recall ever running out of latitude. (I grossly overexposed a white interior on a car shoot last summer when brain fade set in, but was easily able to retrieve detail in conversion.) I shot some ducks on a river that was offering some reflections of direct sunlight last weekend with the K-3 and didn't experience any difficulty. So far, it seems as forgiving as the K-5 in that regard. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re:PAW Picture-A-Week projec
And you created a great walk for the viewers. I marked several as favorites but 1st one is really nice. pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 8 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 00:49:28 -0800 From: Godfrey DiGiorgigodfreydigio...@me.com To: PAW Picture-A-Week projectp...@micapeak.com, PDML List PDML@pdml.net, SeePhoto Talkseeph...@micapeak.com, BAPhotoShooters BAPAbaphotoshoot...@yahoogroups.com Subject: GESO 2013 - 137, 138, 143, 144, 145, 146, 149, 147, 148 - GDG Message-ID:21ce2a4a-0b75-46b5-8fe9-ccc2997cc...@me.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I took a walk at lunch time and looked around me. http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10833833556/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10833772675/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10833771045/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10833940204/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10833937124/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10833765605/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10833813956/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10833759825/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10833756615/ All taken with Olympus E-M1 + Summilux-DG 25mm f/1.4 ASPH It was a good walk on a beautiful day. Thanks for looking. Comments appreciated. Godfrey http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PAW Picture-A-Week projec
#1 is, also, my choice. Natural appearing tones. Jack From: Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com To: pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 8:37 AM Subject: Re:PAW Picture-A-Week projec And you created a great walk for the viewers. I marked several as favorites but 1st one is really nice. pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 8 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 00:49:28 -0800 From: Godfrey DiGiorgigodfreydigio...@me.com To: PAW Picture-A-Week projectp...@micapeak.com, PDML List PDML@pdml.net, SeePhoto Talkseeph...@micapeak.com, BAPhotoShooters BAPAbaphotoshoot...@yahoogroups.com Subject: GESO 2013 - 137, 138, 143, 144, 145, 146, 149, 147, 148 - GDG Message-ID:21ce2a4a-0b75-46b5-8fe9-ccc2997cc...@me.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I took a walk at lunch time and looked around me. http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10833833556/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10833772675/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10833771045/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10833940204/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10833937124/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10833765605/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10833813956/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10833759825/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10833756615/ All taken with Olympus E-M1 + Summilux-DG 25mm f/1.4 ASPH It was a good walk on a beautiful day. Thanks for looking. Comments appreciated. Godfrey http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PAW Picture-A-Week projec - GDG
Thank you both for commenting! G On Nov 13, 2013, at 8:47 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: #1 is, also, my choice. Natural appearing tones. Jack From: Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com And you created a great walk for the viewers. I marked several as favorites but 1st one is really nice. pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 8 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 00:49:28 -0800 From: Godfrey DiGiorgigodfreydigio...@me.com To: PAW Picture-A-Week projectp...@micapeak.com, PDML List PDML@pdml.net, SeePhoto Talkseeph...@micapeak.com, BAPhotoShooters BAPAbaphotoshoot...@yahoogroups.com Subject: GESO 2013 - 137, 138, 143, 144, 145, 146, 149, 147, 148 - GDG Message-ID:21ce2a4a-0b75-46b5-8fe9-ccc2997cc...@me.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I took a walk at lunch time and looked around me. http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10833833556/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10833772675/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10833771045/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10833940204/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10833937124/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10833765605/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10833813956/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10833759825/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10833756615/ All taken with Olympus E-M1 + Summilux-DG 25mm f/1.4 ASPH -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
A bird in a tree
I have a collection of the worst bird photos one can imagine. So it is with some trepidation I post the only one I like from this summer a common house wren. There are more of the same in the 6 frame set. CC as always. 55-300 Kr. http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/10825163394/ http://flic.kr/p/huzMWb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-3 review as seen through the eyes of the PF
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.pentaxforums.com/reviews/pentax-k-3-review/introduction.html I can't really understand why anyone would read a review from a fanboy site like Pantex Forums. For the record, the owner of Pentax Forums also has a Nikon Forums. Alex Sarbu -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A bird in a tree
That's quite nice, Don. I like how you were able to incorporate some of the tree into the background, which is a much more interesting scene than the typical bird on a branch against an open sky that I see so much. This has a warm and comfortable look to it. On my display, it renders with a slight magenta cast. That could be easily dialed out. G On Nov 13, 2013, at 8:52 AM, Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote: I have a collection of the worst bird photos one can imagine. So it is with some trepidation I post the only one I like from this summer a common house wren. There are more of the same in the 6 frame set. CC as always. 55-300 Kr. http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/10825163394/ http://flic.kr/p/huzMWb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
K-3 Video test
Casual test of video SR on K-3. http://www.whatblogisthis.com/2013/11/testing-ricoh-pentax-k-3-hd-video-image.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-3 review as seen through the eyes of the PF
The info is right there in the review. In short, there is more info to recover in the SHADOW areas of the K-5/ii/iis than the K-3. As we all know, if you blow out highlights, that info is just GONE. I'm with Boris on the importance of dynamic range and completely disagree with the point of view that 6 stops of dynamic range is all one needs for most scenes. I think you are confusing the dynamic range of the OUTPUT (like a JPEG on a monitor) with the usefulness of the dynamic range in the RAW that you will use to GENERATE the output file (to monitor or print). It is always useful to have more info to draw from in the source RAW. On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Paul, I would very much appreciate a screenshot or any other way I can see and examine where it shows how you recovered these overexposed shots. On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 5:45 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Nov 13, 2013, at 9:49 AM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/11/2013 11:20 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: Not trying to sound pessimistic or anything, but DR is the most important aspect to me. So I get to keep my K-5 for now. Out of curiosity, do you know what the DR of the K3 is (I don't)? The K5 is something like 14 stops at base ISO, which is something like 8 stops more than most people will encounter in real life picture taking situations. Extreme DR perhaps isn't as important as you think it needs to be, and the DR of the K3 seems ample, at least at lower ISOs. bill I've wondered about this concern over DR myself. Compared to the slide film we all used to shoot, modern digital cameras have a huge range. I don't recall ever running out of latitude. (I grossly overexposed a white interior on a car shoot last summer when brain fade set in, but was easily able to retrieve detail in conversion.) I shot some ducks on a river that was offering some reflections of direct sunlight last weekend with the K-3 and didn't experience any difficulty. So far, it seems as forgiving as the K-5 in that regard. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-3 review as seen through the eyes of the PF
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu alexandru.sa...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.pentaxforums.com/reviews/pentax-k-3-review/introduction.html I can't really understand why anyone would read a review from a fanboy site like Pantex Forums. For the record, the owner of Pentax Forums also has a Nikon Forums. So, doom and gloom on two fronts then Dave Alex Sarbu -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-3 review as seen through the eyes of the PF
PentaxForums: fanboy or doom and gloom, I wish you guys would make up your minds. I think it is important to know how to evaluate information, regardless of the source. Treating PentaxForums as if it were a single entity with a single point of view is rather lazy thinking, IMHO. It is a collection of voices, much like PDML, some more (un)reasonable than others. On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 11:03 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu alexandru.sa...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.pentaxforums.com/reviews/pentax-k-3-review/introduction.html I can't really understand why anyone would read a review from a fanboy site like Pantex Forums. For the record, the owner of Pentax Forums also has a Nikon Forums. So, doom and gloom on two fronts then Dave Alex Sarbu -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Sidetracked - a macro with the phone
Thanks for the comments. I'm having fun with this. I don't know if anything will come of it, but it's fun. gs George Sinos www.GeorgesPhotos.net www.GeorgeSinos.com On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 11:03 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: It seems that the car is standing there under the night sky... Now it begs a question - what is the scale of these stars above it? :-) On 11/11/2013 6:09 PM, George Sinos wrote: I saw these little coal hopper cars in the hobby shop and had to buy a couple. They are painted and lettered for the local power company where I worked for so many years. It grabbed a couple of sections of track from a storage box in the basement and set this up on my kitchen table. The macro shot was taken with iPhone from about 4 away. I was surprised that it actually worked. The lettering on those cars is incredibly small. The cars are only about an inch tall. I often use the phone to take a sketch shot before setting up the tripod and lights. More often I use the phone to take a shot of a location or subject I don't want to forget so I can return later with more appropriate equipment. http://georgesinos.com/blog/2013/11/11/sidetracked gs George Sinos www.GeorgesPhotos.net www.GeorgeSinos.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Playing with the K-3
Paul, I'm assuming that this is the same Grace that you photographed here: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5513023size=lg My how time flies! (The image of Paul's that I link to in the line above is one of my All-Time PDML favorites. The color, contrast and sharpness of that K28 f3.5 BLOWS ME AWAY.) Paul, if you still have that K28 f3.5, I think it would be an excellent lens to put on the 24MP K-3 to see how well the two get along. We'll be waiting (impatiently) for your images. :) On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 4:34 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: Nice set of photos, Paul. The 35 f2 lens seems to perform very well on the K3! I was considering this lens but held off because I was worried that the K3 might be too demanding for some of the older film era lenses, but the lenses seem to work well with the camera (from what I have seen / tried so far.) I have never done AF fine tuning - maybe I should buckle down and do that with this camera. Mark On 11/6/2013 8:12 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: My camera showed up this afternoon. (Finally convinced BH that I didn't want to wait until the grip was in stock for shipping.) Been busy all day but got a chance to play for a bit tonight. Like the way the autofocus functions are controlled by the front and rear wheels when the button is pushed. Nice. Shot a few frames with the FA 35/2, since my 16-50 is still in Japan. This lens usually requires the most focus adjustment but seems pretty close on this camera. Was very pleased with the way the camera was able to focus in near darkness. Shot my scotch in near total darkness. Focus locked right on. ISO 51.200, f2.8, 1/15th: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17588688size=lg My scotch with the bar lights on, shot at a more reasonable ISO 3200, f5.6, 1/25th: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17588690size=lg And Grace doing her homework, ISO 3200, f5.6, 1/100th: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17588691size=lg Very pleased with the autofocus using this screw drive lens. Will try it with SDM lens next. Autofocus fine tuning for all lenses on the weekend. Then we're good to go. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Bong's photo auction fund raiser
Bong just posted a link on facebook to a photo auction fundraiser that they are holding: https://www.facebook.com/photoauctionforyolanda I asked if there was a non-facebook link to it, haven't heard back. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Bong's photo auction fund raiser
Yes, I am looking at it right now in order to figure how to do there. And don't be scared by the apparently high starting bid ads the Filipino Peso is something like 1,000 P = 22.8 USD. Dario -Messaggio originale- From: Larry Colen Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 6:46 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Bong's photo auction fund raiser Bong just posted a link on facebook to a photo auction fundraiser that they are holding: https://www.facebook.com/photoauctionforyolanda I asked if there was a non-facebook link to it, haven't heard back. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Nessun virus nel messaggio. Controllato da AVG - www.avg.com Versione: 2013.0.3426 / Database dei virus: 3629/6833 - Data di rilascio: 13/11/2013 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Nikon goes retro.
Been away for a while, buried in a project. But, the Nikon Df has somehow grabbed my attention. Probably been discussed to death here, but I can't help wondering why? At first blush it /looks/ like a classic Nikon, but the only thing that it's better at than say a D6xx is backwards lens compatibility, and considering the difference in price if I were a Nikon shooter, I'd have much preferred that they'd put that capability in a D6xx. When you look at the details it's no more a Nikkormat or FM which it superficially resembles than an OM-D is a classic OM-1/2/3/4. -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, crazier. - H.L.Mencken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A bird in a tree
Love the setting, Don. Good stuff. Jack - Original Message - From: Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com To: pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 8:52 AM Subject: A bird in a tree I have a collection of the worst bird photos one can imagine. So it is with some trepidation I post the only one I like from this summer a common house wren. There are more of the same in the 6 frame set. CC as always. 55-300 Kr. http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/10825163394/ http://flic.kr/p/huzMWb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Bong's photo auction fund raiser
Do they have a paypal account that people can just donate to? On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 07:02:36PM +0100, Dario Bonazza wrote: Details from Facebook: So we were on our way to holding a photo exhibit for the heck of it when Yolanda hit the Philippines. Because of the urgency and the immensity of the task involved, we are skipping the exhibit with its expensive overhead of venue rentals, caterers and what not to hold this online auction. If we had an exhibit we would end up donating less than 10% after all those expenses, with this online thing, we can pass as much as 95% to either the Philippine Red Cross or World Vision (yes, you have a choice). To keep cost down, this is primarily for Metro Manila residents only (to skip shipping issues) but if you really really have to have the photo, that can be worked out. Rules are simple, this is an open auction and you simply enter in the comment box of the desired photo your bid. Highest bid at the end of the auction wins. Auction ends on Monday, November 18 at 12:00 Midnight. Winners will be announced when we wake up the next day...okay, maybe after we have coffee. Photos can be picked up or meet ups can be arranged. -Messaggio originale- From: Dario Bonazza Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 6:53 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Bong's photo auction fund raiser Yes, I am looking at it right now in order to figure how to do there. And don't be scared by the apparently high starting bid ads the Filipino Peso is something like 1,000 P = 22.8 USD. Dario -Messaggio originale- From: Larry Colen Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 6:46 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Bong's photo auction fund raiser Bong just posted a link on facebook to a photo auction fundraiser that they are holding: https://www.facebook.com/photoauctionforyolanda I asked if there was a non-facebook link to it, haven't heard back. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Nessun virus nel messaggio. Controllato da AVG - www.avg.com Versione: 2013.0.3426 / Database dei virus: 3629/6833 - Data di rilascio: 13/11/2013 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Nessun virus nel messaggio. Controllato da AVG - www.avg.com Versione: 2013.0.3426 / Database dei virus: 3629/6833 - Data di rilascio: 13/11/2013 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Bong's photo auction fund raiser
Details from Facebook: So we were on our way to holding a photo exhibit for the heck of it when Yolanda hit the Philippines. Because of the urgency and the immensity of the task involved, we are skipping the exhibit with its expensive overhead of venue rentals, caterers and what not to hold this online auction. If we had an exhibit we would end up donating less than 10% after all those expenses, with this online thing, we can pass as much as 95% to either the Philippine Red Cross or World Vision (yes, you have a choice). To keep cost down, this is primarily for Metro Manila residents only (to skip shipping issues) but if you really really have to have the photo, that can be worked out. Rules are simple, this is an open auction and you simply enter in the comment box of the desired photo your bid. Highest bid at the end of the auction wins. Auction ends on Monday, November 18 at 12:00 Midnight. Winners will be announced when we wake up the next day...okay, maybe after we have coffee. Photos can be picked up or meet ups can be arranged. -Messaggio originale- From: Dario Bonazza Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 6:53 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Bong's photo auction fund raiser Yes, I am looking at it right now in order to figure how to do there. And don't be scared by the apparently high starting bid ads the Filipino Peso is something like 1,000 P = 22.8 USD. Dario -Messaggio originale- From: Larry Colen Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 6:46 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Bong's photo auction fund raiser Bong just posted a link on facebook to a photo auction fundraiser that they are holding: https://www.facebook.com/photoauctionforyolanda I asked if there was a non-facebook link to it, haven't heard back. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Nessun virus nel messaggio. Controllato da AVG - www.avg.com Versione: 2013.0.3426 / Database dei virus: 3629/6833 - Data di rilascio: 13/11/2013 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Nessun virus nel messaggio. Controllato da AVG - www.avg.com Versione: 2013.0.3426 / Database dei virus: 3629/6833 - Data di rilascio: 13/11/2013 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-3 review as seen through the eyes of the PF
On 11/12/2013 9:53 AM, David J Brooks wrote: http://www.pentaxforums.com/reviews/pentax-k-3-review/introduction.html Apparently my K-5 is aging. Dave Heck, I haven't even bought one yet. -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, crazier. - H.L.Mencken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-3 review as seen through the eyes of the PF
P.J. Alling wrote: Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 7:17 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K-3 review as seen through the eyes of the PF On 11/12/2013 9:53 AM, David J Brooks wrote: http://www.pentaxforums.com/reviews/pentax-k-3-review/introduction.html Apparently my K-5 is aging. Dave Heck, I haven't even bought one yet. My reply: Then you'll buy an already-matured one. Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Nikon goes retro.
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 12:57:26PM -0500, P.J. Alling wrote: Been away for a while, buried in a project. But, the Nikon Df has somehow grabbed my attention. Probably been discussed to death here, but I can't help wondering why? At first blush it /looks/ like a classic Nikon, but the only thing that it's better at than say a D6xx is backwards lens compatibility, and considering the difference in price if I were a Nikon shooter, I'd have much preferred that they'd put that capability in a D6xx. When you look at the details it's no more a Nikkormat or FM which it superficially resembles than an OM-D is a classic OM-1/2/3/4. Since it's a D4 sensor, I suspect that it will outperform the D610 in every respect except resolution. It will be interesting to see what DxO says about them. -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, crazier. - H.L.Mencken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A bird in a tree
Very nice DOF, I like that you included some of the surroundings. On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 7:58 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: Love the setting, Don. Good stuff. Jack - Original Message - From: Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com To: pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 8:52 AM Subject: A bird in a tree I have a collection of the worst bird photos one can imagine. So it is with some trepidation I post the only one I like from this summer a common house wren. There are more of the same in the 6 frame set. CC as always. 55-300 Kr. http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/10825163394/ http://flic.kr/p/huzMWb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-3 review as seen through the eyes of the PF
I will dig it out when I have a few minutes to spare. Paul On Nov 13, 2013, at 10:54 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Paul, I would very much appreciate a screenshot or any other way I can see and examine where it shows how you recovered these overexposed shots. On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 5:45 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Nov 13, 2013, at 9:49 AM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/11/2013 11:20 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: Not trying to sound pessimistic or anything, but DR is the most important aspect to me. So I get to keep my K-5 for now. Out of curiosity, do you know what the DR of the K3 is (I don't)? The K5 is something like 14 stops at base ISO, which is something like 8 stops more than most people will encounter in real life picture taking situations. Extreme DR perhaps isn't as important as you think it needs to be, and the DR of the K3 seems ample, at least at lower ISOs. bill I've wondered about this concern over DR myself. Compared to the slide film we all used to shoot, modern digital cameras have a huge range. I don't recall ever running out of latitude. (I grossly overexposed a white interior on a car shoot last summer when brain fade set in, but was easily able to retrieve detail in conversion.) I shot some ducks on a river that was offering some reflections of direct sunlight last weekend with the K-3 and didn't experience any difficulty. So far, it seems as forgiving as the K-5 in that regard. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A bird in a tree
That is a lovely, lovely shot. That is some weird bokeh, but it sure works with this image. Looks very painterly. On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Attila Boros attila.p...@gmail.com wrote: Very nice DOF, I like that you included some of the surroundings. On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 7:58 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: Love the setting, Don. Good stuff. Jack - Original Message - From: Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com To: pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 8:52 AM Subject: A bird in a tree I have a collection of the worst bird photos one can imagine. So it is with some trepidation I post the only one I like from this summer a common house wren. There are more of the same in the 6 frame set. CC as always. 55-300 Kr. http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/10825163394/ http://flic.kr/p/huzMWb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Kodak Wins $76 Million in Patent Dispute with Ricoh/Pentax
The writer uses the word monolith I do not think he really knows what it means. Goliath may be the word he was looking for but you know maybe he doesn't know what that means either... On 11/1/2013 5:58 PM, Brian Walters wrote: http://petapixel.com/2013/11/01/kodak-wins-76-million-patent-dispute-ricohpentax/ Pretty short on details but it's interesting that the dispute (whatever it was) only applied to Pentax branded products. -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, crazier. - H.L.Mencken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-3 review as seen through the eyes of the PF
On 11/12/2013 12:51 PM, Walt wrote: On 11/12/2013 11:43 AM, Charles Robinson wrote: On Nov 12, 2013, at 09:50 , Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: In short, I would say that if you have anything prior to a K-5 the upgrade to a K-3 will be amazing. If you have a K-5, you have a very good camera that you could be happy with for many years, but an upgrade to a K-3 would be significant (in everything except dynamic range). Sounds like I get to stick with my current game plan: Wait for whatever replaces the K-3 in a couple years (?!?!) and buy a used K-3 for $600. Hopefully I can stick to that plan. -Charles That's my plan, too. Unfortunately, we have the worst support group in the world. -- Walt K-5 Classics are still available NIB for a little over $600. The K-3 will be there when you're ready... -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, crazier. - H.L.Mencken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Birds at a distance + Sigma 70-300 DG APO on K5
http://www.flickr.com/photos/55001392@N08/sets/72157637638443905/ First shot got out of order, but they're all here. All handheld, ISO 200. Enough contrast and saturation that the airline logo on the tail is clear enough and the engines are distinct. But not enough that the bird' feathers are clear. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-3 review as seen through the eyes of the PF
On 13/11/2013 9:53 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: Bill, it is purely subjective. I have suffered enough grief from K-7's sensor and frankly, the way Pentax treats highlights in their RAW files seems to be rather unforgiving compared with those of Ricoh GXR (any module with 12MP sensor). So, I don't want to take any chances. Boris, it isn't subjective at all. This is one of those areas where DXO is a good resource. http://www.dxomark.com/Cameras/Compare-Camera-Sensors/Compare-cameras-side-by-side/(appareil1)/874%7C0/(brand)/Ricoh/(appareil2)/676%7C0/(brand2)/Pentax/(appareil3)/615%7C0/(brand3)/Pentax Look at the DR. The K7 is 10.6 EV, the K5 is 14.1EV, the Ricoh GR is 13.5EV. They don't have the K3 tested yet, but I'm thinking it will probably place very close to the GR, based on what I've see coming off the camera. We know that the Samsung sensors used in the K20 and K7 never performed the way they were supposed to, if they had, it's doubtful that Pentax would have moved to Sony sensors in subsequent models. This is one of those times when being a professional pessimist is biting your ass. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-3 review as seen through the eyes of the PF
I went on the PF fairly regularly after i joined in 2007, it became apparent soon after that my opinions did not matter. I was bullied ridiculed in mky other belifs about the cameras and lenses by several members and soon left after that,. I don't have much love for the PF Dave On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: PentaxForums: fanboy or doom and gloom, I wish you guys would make up your minds. I think it is important to know how to evaluate information, regardless of the source. Treating PentaxForums as if it were a single entity with a single point of view is rather lazy thinking, IMHO. It is a collection of voices, much like PDML, some more (un)reasonable than others. On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 11:03 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu alexandru.sa...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.pentaxforums.com/reviews/pentax-k-3-review/introduction.html I can't really understand why anyone would read a review from a fanboy site like Pantex Forums. For the record, the owner of Pentax Forums also has a Nikon Forums. So, doom and gloom on two fronts then Dave Alex Sarbu -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-3 review as seen through the eyes of the PF
On 13/11/2013 11:00 AM, Darren Addy wrote: The info is right there in the review. In short, there is more info to recover in the SHADOW areas of the K-5/ii/iis than the K-3. As we all know, if you blow out highlights, that info is just GONE. I'm with Boris on the importance of dynamic range and completely disagree with the point of view that 6 stops of dynamic range is all one needs for most scenes. I think you are confusing the dynamic range of the OUTPUT (like a JPEG on a monitor) with the usefulness of the dynamic range in the RAW that you will use to GENERATE the output file (to monitor or print). It is always useful to have more info to draw from in the source RAW. What you seem to be confusing is the number six, which is the bit depth of most monitors with 6 stops, which is the outside dynamic range of most any scene you might care to photograph. I don't know how long you have been involved in photography, I don't know if you have ever shot a roll of film in your life, but colour slide film at best had a 5 to 6 stop range, colour print film about a 7 stop range, and if you were careful, BW could be coaxed into a 14 stop range, though 8-10 stops was more or less what one would get with conventional Zone System exposure and development. Using non specialized development, BW was limited to about 8 stops. Interestingly, we were able to make film work, and work well even with this very limited DR of well under 10 stops. The reason for this is because the DR of most scenes fits into a 6 stop range. You can believe this or not, or you could do something smart and take a color blind light meter out and measure some scenes to see what you come up with. And then come back and tell us why 14.5 stops is so much more necessary than 13.5 stops. What you are saying is that for reasons unknown, perhaps a side effect of climate change, the world has gotten a hell of a lot contrastier in the past 15 years. Or, you don't know what the fuck you are talking about. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-3 review as seen through the eyes of the PF
On 13/11/2013 11:11 AM, Darren Addy wrote: PentaxForums: fanboy or doom and gloom, I wish you guys would make up your minds. I think it is important to know how to evaluate information, Then why are you so bad at it? bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Birds at a distance + Sigma 70-300 DG APO on K5
Good lens! Jack - Original Message - From: CollinB coll...@brendemuehl.net To: pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 11:00 AM Subject: Birds at a distance + Sigma 70-300 DG APO on K5 http://www.flickr.com/photos/55001392@N08/sets/72157637638443905/ First shot got out of order, but they're all here. All handheld, ISO 200. Enough contrast and saturation that the airline logo on the tail is clear enough and the engines are distinct. But not enough that the bird' feathers are clear. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-3 review as seen through the eyes of the PF
What you are saying is that for reasons unknown, perhaps a side effect of climate change, the world has gotten a hell of a lot contrastier in the past 15 years. bill I'm finding that the older I get the faster the years go by and the heavier cameras have become. So there is no reason not to conclude that the sun isn't getting brighter. Didn't Al Gore predict something like this? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-3 review as seen through the eyes of the PF
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 01:17:23PM -0600, Bill wrote: On 13/11/2013 11:00 AM, Darren Addy wrote: The info is right there in the review. In short, there is more info to recover in the SHADOW areas of the K-5/ii/iis than the K-3. As we all know, if you blow out highlights, that info is just GONE. Interestingly, we were able to make film work, and work well even with this very limited DR of well under 10 stops. The reason for this is because the DR of most scenes fits into a 6 stop range. You can believe this or not, or you could do something smart and take a color blind light meter out and measure some scenes to see what you come up with. And then come back and tell us why 14.5 stops is so much more necessary than 13.5 stops. What you are saying is that for reasons unknown, perhaps a side effect of climate change, the world has gotten a hell of a lot contrastier in the past 15 years. Or, you don't know what the fuck you are talking about. bill Or, just possibly, some people photograph different things than you do. We got great shots on film, so why would anybody need anything that performs better than it? Maybe film saturates differently than digital sensors. I could never afford to to much serious photography with film, so I'm not well versed at how it handles at the edges of the performance envelope. Have you ever photographed a musician on stage and tried to keep the color in the gelled stage lights? That's a case where I want more dynamic range than the K-5 can give me. Likewise I do a lot of photography at light, or in dark rooms, with well lit corners, and even with 14 stops of DR, I need more. But, I'm not really getting those 14 stops, because I have to push the ISO much harder. Shooting ISO 6400, those 14 stops become a lot closer to 8 or 9. Every aspect of camera performance is a compromise with some other aspect (light, fast, or cheap, pick any two). A landscape photographer won't care about fast autofocus, but will care about resolution. Someone photographing for a magazine probably doesn't need more than about 10MP of resolution (if that), but might want as high of a clean ISO as they can get. A sports photographer needs fast autofocus, and possibly accurate auto exposure. A 5 foot tall woman with tendonitis might want a small light camera that she can hold without getting tired, carry in her purse and reach the buttons, while a 6'3 man might need a large camera that has room for more than three of his fingers. For some people, who are losing photos because one aspect isn't good enough, every improvement will make a difference on the photos that are keepers. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-3 review as seen through the eyes of the PF
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 01:02:13PM -0600, Bill wrote: We know that the Samsung sensors used in the K20 and K7 never performed the way they were supposed to, if they had, it's doubtful that Pentax would have moved to Sony sensors in subsequent models. That's one reason why I stayed with the K10D until the K5 came along. I didn't like some of the colours from the Samsung sensor (especially the deep reds of some roses; they didn't match what my eye was seeing). I suspect this might simply have been the frequency response at the red end of the spectrum differing from that of the human eye, or maybe it was simply the red component of the bayer filter. In any case, there were enough other questions about the K20D (and, later, the K7) that I stayed with what was working for me. And, when it comes down to it, the K10D was a pretty good camera. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Nikon goes retro.
On Nov 13, 2013, at 9:57 AM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Been away for a while, buried in a project. But, the Nikon Df has somehow grabbed my attention. Probably been discussed to death here, but I can't help wondering why? At first blush it /looks/ like a classic Nikon, but the only thing that it's better at than say a D6xx is backwards lens compatibility, and considering the difference in price if I were a Nikon shooter, I'd have much preferred that they'd put that capability in a D6xx. When you look at the details it's no more a Nikkormat or FM which it superficially resembles than an OM-D is a classic OM-1/2/3/4. If it were not a modern camera, it would not sell. To my eye, it looks bloated and the bevy of dials and buttons makes it look overly complicated. However, one set of comparison photos makes it clear that it's much more nearly the size of the F3 than even the D610, which is in turn a good bit trimmer than the D800 and D4. I reserve judgment until I see one in the flesh. :-) I don't know what pure photography was supposed to be, but if the sensor is good and the controls work well, and it takes my Nikkor 50/1.2 AI-S and Nikkor-H 85/1.8 Pre-AI allowing metering, it might present some interest for me. Not much, to be honest. I'm pretty darn happy with what I have now. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
K-5 Highlight save for Boris
I don't know that this proves anything. But Boris asked to see these in support of my contention that I have been able to salvage blown out highlights on K-5 RAW files. Shot this pic at high noon from a ladder with the sun overhead. Didn't bother to think that the dash was shaded and the almost white seats were ablaze with light. Don't know what the difference was in stops, but it had to be considerable, probably in excess of 14. In any case I had to work with the RAW rendering and subsequent dodging and burning, but I salvaged a pic that ended up in the magazine. A reshoot was not in the cards, as the car and its owner were long gone before I saw how bad I had failed here. One of these id the RAW opened with the default settings and saved as a jpeg. The other is the tweaked final image. Not hard to tell them apart. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17598155size=lg http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17598156size=lg Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-3 review as seen through the eyes of the PF
On 13/11/2013 1:46 PM, CollinB wrote: What you are saying is that for reasons unknown, perhaps a side effect of climate change, the world has gotten a hell of a lot contrastier in the past 15 years. bill I'm finding that the older I get the faster the years go by and the heavier cameras have become. So there is no reason not to conclude that the sun isn't getting brighter. Didn't Al Gore predict something like this? My light meter disagrees. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-3 review as seen through the eyes of the PF
On 13 Nov 2013, at 19:17, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: [...] What you are saying is that for reasons unknown, perhaps a side effect of climate change, the world has gotten a hell of a lot contrastier in the past 15 years. I blame the almost unstoppable rise of Manichaeism. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: mobo sushi tonight at 8PM
I will make a stab at meeting up with you at the restaurant. Godfrey On Nov 13, 2013, at 12:29 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: In theory, Jostein will get to my house about 6:30 PM. This will give him a chance to unpack, clean up etc. So, people can meet at my house at about 7, in which case we could all drive down to Santa Cruz together, or at Mobo Sushi at 8PM. If you come to my house, please park in the pullout which is about 200 feet south of my house on hwy 9. (email me if you need directions). You may want to bring a flashlight for the walk. Mobo Sushi is in the same parking lot as Trader Joe's and the CVS between River and Front streets. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-3 review as seen through the eyes of the PF
On 13/11/2013 1:49 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 01:17:23PM -0600, Bill wrote: On 13/11/2013 11:00 AM, Darren Addy wrote: The info is right there in the review. In short, there is more info to recover in the SHADOW areas of the K-5/ii/iis than the K-3. As we all know, if you blow out highlights, that info is just GONE. Interestingly, we were able to make film work, and work well even with this very limited DR of well under 10 stops. The reason for this is because the DR of most scenes fits into a 6 stop range. You can believe this or not, or you could do something smart and take a color blind light meter out and measure some scenes to see what you come up with. And then come back and tell us why 14.5 stops is so much more necessary than 13.5 stops. What you are saying is that for reasons unknown, perhaps a side effect of climate change, the world has gotten a hell of a lot contrastier in the past 15 years. Or, you don't know what the fuck you are talking about. bill Or, just possibly, some people photograph different things than you do. We got great shots on film, so why would anybody need anything that performs better than it? We already have things that perform close to three times as well as film, and the half stop to a stop of DR that is being discussed probably isn't going to bring the house down. Maybe film saturates differently than digital sensors. I could never afford to to much serious photography with film, so I'm not well versed at how it handles at the edges of the performance envelope. Better than digital actually, however the performance envelope is a lot smaller. Have you ever photographed a musician on stage and tried to keep the color in the gelled stage lights? That's a case where I want more dynamic range than the K-5 can give me. Yes I have. And to do it, I worked with the lighting guy to give me a workable solution. Likewise I do a lot of photography at light, or in dark rooms, with well lit corners, and even with 14 stops of DR, I need more. But, I'm not really getting those 14 stops, because I have to push the ISO much harder. Shooting ISO 6400, those 14 stops become a lot closer to 8 or 9. So by your own admission a stop difference in DR isn't going to do anything for you, as your situation is already artificially set up to be well nigh impossible. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
mobo sushi tonight at 8PM
In theory, Jostein will get to my house about 6:30 PM. This will give him a chance to unpack, clean up etc. So, people can meet at my house at about 7, in which case we could all drive down to Santa Cruz together, or at Mobo Sushi at 8PM. If you come to my house, please park in the pullout which is about 200 feet south of my house on hwy 9. (email me if you need directions). You may want to bring a flashlight for the walk. Mobo Sushi is in the same parking lot as Trader Joe's and the CVS between River and Front streets. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-3 review as seen through the eyes of the PF
On 13/11/2013 1:51 PM, John Francis wrote: On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 01:02:13PM -0600, Bill wrote: We know that the Samsung sensors used in the K20 and K7 never performed the way they were supposed to, if they had, it's doubtful that Pentax would have moved to Sony sensors in subsequent models. That's one reason why I stayed with the K10D until the K5 came along. I didn't like some of the colours from the Samsung sensor (especially the deep reds of some roses; they didn't match what my eye was seeing). I suspect this might simply have been the frequency response at the red end of the spectrum differing from that of the human eye, or maybe it was simply the red component of the bayer filter. In any case, there were enough other questions about the K20D (and, later, the K7) that I stayed with what was working for me. And, when it comes down to it, the K10D was a pretty good camera. I really liked the K10, the K20 not so much, though both it and the K7 at base ISO gave lovely results in the studio, I suspect for the same reason you didn't like it ( the red response). bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 Highlight save for Boris
Chalk up another one for Al Gore. -- I don't have a problem with idiots. I have a problem that they have an internet connection. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: mobo sushi tonight at 8PM
On 13 Nov 2013, at 20:29, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: In theory, Jostein will get to my house about 6:30 PM. This will give him a chance to unpack, clean up etc. So, people can meet at my house at about 7, in which case we could all drive down to Santa Cruz together, or at Mobo Sushi at 8PM. Jostein is Norwegian - he prefers Moby sushi If you come to my house, please park in the pullout which is about 200 feet south of my house on hwy 9. (email me if you need directions). After seeing all the crash photos from outside your house, why would anyone want to drive there!? B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-3 review as seen through the eyes of the PF
On 11/12/2013 10:56 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.pentaxforums.com/reviews/pentax-k-3-review/introduction.html I can't really understand why anyone would read a review from a fanboy site like Pantex Forums. Self justification? Why read a review from a fanboy site of some other fanboy's Camera? You know it probably won't be objective. Yet a lot of folks seem to think that Kennyboy is credible, (including Mike Johnston, occasionally, everybody be sure to take a cat or flower photo in his honor, and send it to him. Wait a PUG theme, Photos Mike Johnston would hate!). -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, crazier. - H.L.Mencken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Nikon goes retro.
Someone please help. PDML seems to be caught in an infinite loop in the time/space continuum. On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 2:24 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com wrote: On Nov 13, 2013, at 9:57 AM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Been away for a while, buried in a project. But, the Nikon Df has somehow grabbed my attention. Probably been discussed to death here, but I can't help wondering why? At first blush it /looks/ like a classic Nikon, but the only thing that it's better at than say a D6xx is backwards lens compatibility, and considering the difference in price if I were a Nikon shooter, I'd have much preferred that they'd put that capability in a D6xx. When you look at the details it's no more a Nikkormat or FM which it superficially resembles than an OM-D is a classic OM-1/2/3/4. If it were not a modern camera, it would not sell. To my eye, it looks bloated and the bevy of dials and buttons makes it look overly complicated. However, one set of comparison photos makes it clear that it's much more nearly the size of the F3 than even the D610, which is in turn a good bit trimmer than the D800 and D4. I reserve judgment until I see one in the flesh. :-) I don't know what pure photography was supposed to be, but if the sensor is good and the controls work well, and it takes my Nikkor 50/1.2 AI-S and Nikkor-H 85/1.8 Pre-AI allowing metering, it might present some interest for me. Not much, to be honest. I'm pretty darn happy with what I have now. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I don't have a problem with idiots. I have a problem with the fact that they have an internet connection. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO On a cold, sunny day in November
From a creative shoot with photographer-turned-alt-model Alina Antoniou. She wanted to add some lingerie and nude work to her modelling portfolio and I was ready to try nudes for the first time, so we got together on a cold, sunny day in November ... [I expect it's safe for work] http://www.flickriver.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/10843526703/ K20D, DA* 55/1.4 @ f4, 1/100th, ISO 200. Window light and white foamcore reflectors. Comments welcome. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 Highlight save for Boris
And your point? On Nov 13, 2013, at 3:56 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Chalk up another one for Al Gore. -- I don't have a problem with idiots. I have a problem that they have an internet connection. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 Highlight save for Boris
You are apparently not following along in the other threads today. ;) On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: And your point? On Nov 13, 2013, at 3:56 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Chalk up another one for Al Gore. -- I don't have a problem with idiots. I have a problem that they have an internet connection. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I don't have a problem with idiots. I have a problem with the fact that they have an internet connection. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 Highlight save for Boris
Are you trying to deny Al his score? :-) Godfrey On Nov 13, 2013, at 1:03 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: And your point? On Nov 13, 2013, at 3:56 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Chalk up another one for Al Gore. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO On a cold, sunny day in November
On 13/11/2013 3:01 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: From a creative shoot with photographer-turned-alt-model Alina Antoniou. She wanted to add some lingerie and nude work to her modelling portfolio and I was ready to try nudes for the first time, so we got together on a cold, sunny day in November ... [I expect it's safe for work] http://www.flickriver.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/10843526703/ K20D, DA* 55/1.4 @ f4, 1/100th, ISO 200. Window light and white foamcore reflectors. Comments welcome. Well, I hate the shoes.:) bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 Highlight save for Boris
On Nov 13, 2013, at 4:04 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: You are apparently not following along in the other threads today. ;) I have to earn a living. On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: And your point? On Nov 13, 2013, at 3:56 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Chalk up another one for Al Gore. -- I don't have a problem with idiots. I have a problem that they have an internet connection. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I don't have a problem with idiots. I have a problem with the fact that they have an internet connection. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO On a cold, sunny day in November
Nice lighting as usual:) I would crop a little bit from the top (keep just the windows and nothing else). On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 11:03 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 13/11/2013 3:01 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: From a creative shoot with photographer-turned-alt-model Alina Antoniou. She wanted to add some lingerie and nude work to her modelling portfolio and I was ready to try nudes for the first time, so we got together on a cold, sunny day in November ... [I expect it's safe for work] http://www.flickriver.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/10843526703/ K20D, DA* 55/1.4 @ f4, 1/100th, ISO 200. Window light and white foamcore reflectors. Comments welcome. Well, I hate the shoes.:) bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Something I learned this weekend
There's a difference between needing something and wanting it. On 11/11/2013 5:44 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: I went to the Society for Photographic Education northeast region conference this weekend — I'll describe it in more detail later in the week. Presentations alternated between talks on theory (of both photography and education) and artists showing and discussing their own work. I took notes during the whole weekend and here's one entry from my notepad: The world does not need any more large-format photographs of ferns. More later... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Something I learned this weekend
On 11/11/2013 5:44 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: I went to the Society for Photographic Education northeast region conference this weekend — I'll describe it in more detail later in the week. Presentations alternated between talks on theory (of both photography and education) and artists showing and discussing their own work. I took notes during the whole weekend and here's one entry from my notepad: The world does not need any more large-format photographs of ferns. More later... What if Fern is naked? -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, crazier. - H.L.Mencken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Bong's photo auction fund raiser
well I know Bong has a Paypal account because he bought something from me um about a year ago I thinkI'd guess you could pay him and then he pays the charities It's a sweet thing for him to do ann On 11/13/2013 13:10, Larry Colen wrote: Do they have a paypal account that people can just donate to? On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 07:02:36PM +0100, Dario Bonazza wrote: Details from Facebook: So we were on our way to holding a photo exhibit for the heck of it when Yolanda hit the Philippines. Because of the urgency and the immensity of the task involved, we are skipping the exhibit with its expensive overhead of venue rentals, caterers and what not to hold this online auction. If we had an exhibit we would end up donating less than 10% after all those expenses, with this online thing, we can pass as much as 95% to either the Philippine Red Cross or World Vision (yes, you have a choice). To keep cost down, this is primarily for Metro Manila residents only (to skip shipping issues) but if you really really have to have the photo, that can be worked out. Rules are simple, this is an open auction and you simply enter in the comment box of the desired photo your bid. Highest bid at the end of the auction wins. Auction ends on Monday, November 18 at 12:00 Midnight. Winners will be announced when we wake up the next day...okay, maybe after we have coffee. Photos can be picked up or meet ups can be arranged. -Messaggio originale- From: Dario Bonazza Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 6:53 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Bong's photo auction fund raiser Yes, I am looking at it right now in order to figure how to do there. And don't be scared by the apparently high starting bid ads the Filipino Peso is something like 1,000 P = 22.8 USD. Dario -Messaggio originale- From: Larry Colen Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 6:46 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Bong's photo auction fund raiser Bong just posted a link on facebook to a photo auction fundraiser that they are holding: https://www.facebook.com/photoauctionforyolanda I asked if there was a non-facebook link to it, haven't heard back. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Nessun virus nel messaggio. Controllato da AVG - www.avg.com Versione: 2013.0.3426 / Database dei virus: 3629/6833 - Data di rilascio: 13/11/2013 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Nessun virus nel messaggio. Controllato da AVG - www.avg.com Versione: 2013.0.3426 / Database dei virus: 3629/6833 - Data di rilascio: 13/11/2013 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Re: A bird in a tree
Thanks for the heads up Godfrey and for your comments. pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 12 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 08:56:18 -0800 From: Godfrey DiGiorgigodfreydigio...@me.com To: PDML Listpdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: A bird in a tree Message-ID:132efad6-a255-44cb-b375-bb46a3021...@me.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii That's quite nice, Don. I like how you were able to incorporate some of the tree into the background, which is a much more interesting scene than the typical bird on a branch against an open sky that I see so much. This has a warm and comfortable look to it. On my display, it renders with a slight magenta cast. That could be easily dialed out. G On Nov 13, 2013, at 8:52 AM, Don Guthrieshark50...@gmail.com wrote: I have a collection of the worst bird photos one can imagine. So it is with some trepidation I post the only one I like from this summer a common house wren. There are more of the same in the 6 frame set. CC as always. 55-300 Kr. http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/10825163394/ http://flic.kr/p/huzMWb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Always wondered why they supplied a viewfinder cover...
I think that's actually in the manual. On 11/11/2013 6:14 PM, Darren Addy wrote: ...and now I know... http://scotchtape.ductwhisky.com/2013/11/pentax-k-5-ii-and-strong-filters.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Always wondered why they supplied a viewfinder cover...
On 11/12/2013 7:10 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: Bill wrote: On 11/11/2013 5:14 PM, Darren Addy wrote: ...and now I know... http://scotchtape.ductwhisky.com/2013/11/pentax-k-5-ii-and-strong-filters.html Sigh. Will we ever call Pentax Pentax again? Or are we forever stuck with nimrods and the cutesy Pentax Hoya Ricoh? FFS, we get that Pentax is now a brand name, not a separate entity. And guess what? For the ones of us with a lick of brains, we don't care. Did Nikon shooters get their panties in a bunch when Nikon was bought by Mitsubishi in the 1970's? Did Mitsubishi put their name on Nikon cameras? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A bird in a tree
Thanks Jack, now if I can just get a photo of the hawk that is killing the sparrows at my bird feeder. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A bird in a tree
Thanks Attila, I was just glad he sat still for his portrait, they are flitty little things. pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 4 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 20:41:20 +0200 From: Attila Boros attila.p...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: A bird in a tree Message-ID: CAFTZMH+xRskSZO=cfir8pdf+dznuy-k34+kq9t+_y4dzmxt...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Very nice DOF, I like that you included some of the surroundings. On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 7:58 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: Love the setting, Don. Good stuff. Jack - Original Message - From: Don Guthrieshark50...@gmail.com To:pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 8:52 AM Subject: A bird in a tree I have a collection of the worst bird photos one can imagine. So it is with some trepidation I post the only one I like from this summer a common house wren. There are more of the same in the 6 frame set. CC as always. 55-300 Kr. http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/10825163394/ http://flic.kr/p/huzMWb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PDML Digest, Vol 91, Issue 106
Hey thanks, you know I get some odd bokeh sometimes, background trees ?? pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 6 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 12:55:00 -0600 From: Darren Addypixelsmi...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: A bird in a tree Message-ID: caeqabgs8mbdkc2wtj+0km0smhssmrgz32jcvhbuatypjc57...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 That is a lovely, lovely shot. That is some weird bokeh, but it sure works with this image. Looks very painterly. Subject: A bird in a tree I have a collection of the worst bird photos one can imagine. So it is with some trepidation I post the only one I like from this summer a common house wren. There are more of the same in the 6 frame set. CC as always. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-3 review as seen through the eyes of the PF
My light meter disagrees. Bill No exactly. Your light meter is less sensitive than it once was. So it only registers the same results but against a changed source. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Nikon goes retro.
I think the target market is aging hipsters they're going to sell a shit pot load of them ... Df cameras, not hipsters. I think it's against the law to sell hipsters now. On 11/13/2013 4:00 PM, Darren Addy wrote: Someone please help. PDML seems to be caught in an infinite loop in the time/space continuum. On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 2:24 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com wrote: On Nov 13, 2013, at 9:57 AM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Been away for a while, buried in a project. But, the Nikon Df has somehow grabbed my attention. Probably been discussed to death here, but I can't help wondering why? At first blush it /looks/ like a classic Nikon, but the only thing that it's better at than say a D6xx is backwards lens compatibility, and considering the difference in price if I were a Nikon shooter, I'd have much preferred that they'd put that capability in a D6xx. When you look at the details it's no more a Nikkormat or FM which it superficially resembles than an OM-D is a classic OM-1/2/3/4. If it were not a modern camera, it would not sell. To my eye, it looks bloated and the bevy of dials and buttons makes it look overly complicated. However, one set of comparison photos makes it clear that it's much more nearly the size of the F3 than even the D610, which is in turn a good bit trimmer than the D800 and D4. I reserve judgment until I see one in the flesh. :-) I don't know what pure photography was supposed to be, but if the sensor is good and the controls work well, and it takes my Nikkor 50/1.2 AI-S and Nikkor-H 85/1.8 Pre-AI allowing metering, it might present some interest for me. Not much, to be honest. I'm pretty darn happy with what I have now. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Always wondered why they supplied a viewfinder cover...
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 5:33 PM, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote: I think that's actually in the manual. Only the effect on metering, not on light reflecting onto sensor during long exposures. http://scotchtape.ductwhisky.com/2013/11/pentax-k-5-ii-and-strong-filters.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Always wondered why they supplied a viewfinder cover...
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 5:04 PM, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote: Only the effect on metering, not on light reflecting onto sensor during long exposures. You know, I 've been trying to picture how that even happens. I can understand how light from the viewfinder might affect the exposure. After all the mirror is still down while metering, right? So if your eye isn't at the viewfinder, it is possible that it could be bouncing around in there and affect the meter. But this problem? The mirror is UP, during the exposure. So that implies that the mirror does not fully cover the screen on the bottom of the pentaprism. Light, coming from the viewfinder (crack between the mirror and the screen???) must reflect off the back lens element (or goes through the lens reflects off the dark filter and comes back at the sensor?). That's the only thing that I can picture. If someone has an alternative explanation, I'm all ears. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Always wondered why they supplied a viewfinder cover...
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: But this problem? The mirror is UP, during the exposure. So that implies that the mirror does not fully cover the screen on the bottom of the pentaprism. Light, coming from the viewfinder (crack between the mirror and the screen???) must reflect off the back lens element (or goes through the lens reflects off the dark filter and comes back at the sensor?). That's the only thing that I can picture. If someone has an alternative explanation, I'm all ears. Yeah, there's gaps around the mirror. If you take the lens off and fire a long exposure, and hold a flashlight to the viewfinder, you can see quite a bit of light getting past the edges of the mirror (at least on the K-5 II). The biggest streak of light was at the bottom of the photograph, which would correspond to the top edge of the sensor (due to the inverted image). I would guess that comes from light getting past the mirror along the back edge (closest to the sensor) and hitting the sensor pretty directly. Control of scattered light is a pretty big factor in things like telescope design. Since you're getting into astrophotography, keep an eye on your screwheads! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Always wondered why they supplied a viewfinder cover...
On 13/11/2013 5:14 PM, Darren Addy wrote: On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 5:04 PM, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote: Only the effect on metering, not on light reflecting onto sensor during long exposures. You know, I 've been trying to picture how that even happens. I can understand how light from the viewfinder might affect the exposure. After all the mirror is still down while metering, right? So if your eye isn't at the viewfinder, it is possible that it could be bouncing around in there and affect the meter. But this problem? The mirror is UP, during the exposure. So that implies that the mirror does not fully cover the screen on the bottom of the pentaprism. Light, coming from the viewfinder (crack between the mirror and the screen???) must reflect off the back lens element (or goes through the lens reflects off the dark filter and comes back at the sensor?). That's the only thing that I can picture. If someone has an alternative explanation, I'm all ears. The light seal between mirror and screen is never perfect, and of course on long exposures we tend to not be covering the viewfinder with our eye, so more light gets in through the finder anyway. I have also seen camera where the mirror sags a bit on long exposures and allows even more light to pass. Once stray light is in the mirror box, some is going to find it's way to the sensor. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Something I learned this weekend
On 13/11/2013 4:09 PM, John wrote: There's a difference between needing something and wanting it. My wife says she has never seen a person who can go from want to need faster than me. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Something I learned this weekend
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 5:26 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: My wife says she has never seen a person who can go from want to need faster than me. Oh dear God, you are MARRIED? Please extend to her my sympathies and, if she is Catholic, please let her know that she is already half way to sainthood. :) -- Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 Highlight save for Boris
That's a good example, Paul. Running the PS eye dropper over the seats almost all pixels have channel values of less than 255 - they are close, above 250, but not 100% blown out. As you demonstrate, even that little bit of a difference make it possible to salvage the highlights. If all three channels were at 255 all that could be done would be to make the pure white a shade of grey. (If you clip the histogram in the levels tool so the seats are pegged at 255-255-255 (8 bit per channel file, of course) recovery is then impossible.) Looking in levels again - there really is very little clipping of the histogram at either the high end or low end, so you actually nailed the shot well enough to have a recoverable image. Mark On 11/13/2013 3:29 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I don't know that this proves anything. But Boris asked to see these in support of my contention that I have been able to salvage blown out highlights on K-5 RAW files. Shot this pic at high noon from a ladder with the sun overhead. Didn't bother to think that the dash was shaded and the almost white seats were ablaze with light. Don't know what the difference was in stops, but it had to be considerable, probably in excess of 14. In any case I had to work with the RAW rendering and subsequent dodging and burning, but I salvaged a pic that ended up in the magazine. A reshoot was not in the cards, as the car and its owner were long gone before I saw how bad I had failed here. One of these id the RAW opened with the default settings and saved as a jpeg. The other is the tweaked final image. Not hard to tell them apart. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17598155size=lg http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17598156size=lg Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO On a cold, sunny day in November
If that means you like the rest of the image, then we're having a good discussion here. :-) Thanks, Bill. On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 13/11/2013 3:01 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: From a creative shoot with photographer-turned-alt-model Alina Antoniou. She wanted to add some lingerie and nude work to her modelling portfolio and I was ready to try nudes for the first time, so we got together on a cold, sunny day in November ... [I expect it's safe for work] http://www.flickriver.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/10843526703/ K20D, DA* 55/1.4 @ f4, 1/100th, ISO 200. Window light and white foamcore reflectors. Comments welcome. Well, I hate the shoes.:) bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO On a cold, sunny day in November
Thank you, Attila. I intentionally left in everything you see there as I intend to contrast the rectilinear lines and beige texture to the smooth curves and colour of the female form. On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Attila Boros attila.p...@gmail.com wrote: Nice lighting as usual:) I would crop a little bit from the top (keep just the windows and nothing else). On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 11:03 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 13/11/2013 3:01 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: From a creative shoot with photographer-turned-alt-model Alina Antoniou. She wanted to add some lingerie and nude work to her modelling portfolio and I was ready to try nudes for the first time, so we got together on a cold, sunny day in November ... [I expect it's safe for work] http://www.flickriver.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/10843526703/ K20D, DA* 55/1.4 @ f4, 1/100th, ISO 200. Window light and white foamcore reflectors. Comments welcome. Well, I hate the shoes.:) bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Columbus Circle
Thanks, Boris. It was most cooperative! Rick On Nov 12, 2013, at 23:58 , Boris Liberman wrote: The bird in the top left corner is indeed a very nice touch, Rick! On 11/13/2013 4:48 AM, Richard Womer wrote: I had a meeting in New York City over Halloween. As usual, I was locked up all day, and went wandering with my camera in the evening. 'http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17597042 or http://gallery.photo.net/photo/17597042-lg.jpg (K-5, DA 16-45) Comments? Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Columbus Circle
Thanks, Paul. I remember the Coliseum--went to a couple of boat shows and auto shows there with a friend when I was a teenager. Columbus Circle looks better without it! Cheers, Rick On Nov 12, 2013, at 22:28 , Paul Stenquist wrote: Nice pic. Good to see. I once worked around the corner at Hearst, 224 w 57th. I often parked in the long gone NY coliseum at Columbus circle. Pulled apart the engine of my 70 Pontiac in the coliseum garage when the timing chain broke. A 20 hour day. Ruined my clothes but fixed my car. Paul via phone On Nov 12, 2013, at 9:48 PM, Richard Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: I had a meeting in New York City over Halloween. As usual, I was locked up all day, and went wandering with my camera in the evening. 'http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17597042 or http://gallery.photo.net/photo/17597042-lg.jpg (K-5, DA 16-45) Comments? Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Columbus Circle
Thanks, Frank! On Nov 12, 2013, at 22:07 , knarf wrote: Very effective use of that wide lens. Great light, wonderful composition. Cheers, frank Richard Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: I had a meeting in New York City over Halloween. As usual, I was locked up all day, and went wandering with my camera in the evening. 'http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17597042 or http://gallery.photo.net/photo/17597042-lg.jpg (K-5, DA 16-45) Comments? Rick “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Manhattan Commute
This woman, with two kids in the stroller, was traveling north at a rate I could barely match. I took several photos over several blocks, and this once captured best the bustle of the city and the urgency of her motion: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17597033size=lg or http://gallery.photo.net/photo/17597033-lg.jpg (K-5, DA 16-45) Comments? Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A bird in a tree
I had to fight with flkr to see him - Are you naming him Christopher?.. I think it's a sweet photo but on one rendition I'm seeing a blotch of white on the twig I'd want to clone out - though I'm not sure now (*^*#$(!^^* flkr) It didn't look too magenta on my monitor. ann On 11/13/2013 17:32, Don Guthrie wrote: Thanks for the heads up Godfrey and for your comments. pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 12 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 08:56:18 -0800 From: Godfrey DiGiorgigodfreydigio...@me.com To: PDML Listpdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: A bird in a tree Message-ID:132efad6-a255-44cb-b375-bb46a3021...@me.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii That's quite nice, Don. I like how you were able to incorporate some of the tree into the background, which is a much more interesting scene than the typical bird on a branch against an open sky that I see so much. This has a warm and comfortable look to it. On my display, it renders with a slight magenta cast. That could be easily dialed out. G On Nov 13, 2013, at 8:52 AM, Don Guthrieshark50...@gmail.com wrote: I have a collection of the worst bird photos one can imagine. So it is with some trepidation I post the only one I like from this summer a common house wren. There are more of the same in the 6 frame set. CC as always. 55-300 Kr. http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/10825163394/ http://flic.kr/p/huzMWb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO On a cold, sunny day in November
Window light always a good thing... much nicer than studio lighting and like the whole thing - not at all what I expected. ann On 11/13/2013 16:01, Bruce Walker wrote: From a creative shoot with photographer-turned-alt-model Alina Antoniou. She wanted to add some lingerie and nude work to her modelling portfolio and I was ready to try nudes for the first time, so we got together on a cold, sunny day in November ... [I expect it's safe for work] http://www.flickriver.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/10843526703/ K20D, DA* 55/1.4 @ f4, 1/100th, ISO 200. Window light and white foamcore reflectors. Comments welcome. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
4 Pesos - cause I hadn't in a while
http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Very-recent-NYC/31835949_JqDbwJ/1/2899050339_C3wggXk/Large http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Very-recent-NYC/31835949_JqDbwJ/1/2899053538_QSZCGk2/Large http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Very-recent-NYC/31835949_JqDbwJ/1/2903462521_8cXfRDL/Large http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Very-recent-NYC/31835949_JqDbwJ/1/2903463941_b8XHQcL/Large These are in two different galleries on my home page - the one these are in has 27 recent photos - if you feel like it - link to the whole gallery index is - but you guys have seen most of the others before. http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Very-recent-NYC/31835949_JqDbwJ ann annsan.smugmug.com http://www.cafepress.com/annsanstuff -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO On a cold, sunny day in November
I envisioned using the windows in this space ever since I first encountered them. So you could say this shot was over two years in the making. :-) Ann, I know you're not big on the posed studio shots so I especially appreciate your appreciation. More than half the shots I got in this session were in natural light before we switched to posed under flash, so there are quite a few more like this coming. This one almost exhausts the supply of Safe For Work ones though. ;-) On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 8:15 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: Window light always a good thing... much nicer than studio lighting and like the whole thing - not at all what I expected. ann On 11/13/2013 16:01, Bruce Walker wrote: From a creative shoot with photographer-turned-alt-model Alina Antoniou. She wanted to add some lingerie and nude work to her modelling portfolio and I was ready to try nudes for the first time, so we got together on a cold, sunny day in November ... [I expect it's safe for work] http://www.flickriver.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/10843526703/ K20D, DA* 55/1.4 @ f4, 1/100th, ISO 200. Window light and white foamcore reflectors. Comments welcome. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO On a cold, sunny day in November
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 08:29:16PM -0500, Bruce Walker wrote: I envisioned using the windows in this space ever since I first encountered them. So you could say this shot was over two years in the making. :-) Ann, I know you're not big on the posed studio shots so I especially appreciate your appreciation. More than half the shots I got in this session were in natural light before we switched to posed under flash, so there are quite a few more like this coming. This one almost exhausts the supply of Safe For Work ones though. ;-) I'm willing to live dangerously. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Something I learned this weekend
On 13/11/2013 5:39 PM, Darren Addy wrote: On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 5:26 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: My wife says she has never seen a person who can go from want to need faster than me. Oh dear God, you are MARRIED? Please extend to her my sympathies and, if she is Catholic, please let her know that she is already half way to sainthood. :) 30 years next May. She hit sainthood sometime in 1992. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Requisite K-3 test (Warning - feline content)
On Nov 13, 2013, at 7:38 AM, Attila Boros wrote: Nice fur but really serious kitten. On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 7:03 AM, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote: On Nov 13, 2013, at 2:16 pm, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: I realized that I had not seen a K-3 cat picture posted! So here is the missing link: http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p155717848/h355d86ba#h355d86ba Yay! Cheers, Dave Thanks to all who looked and/or commented on the two shots. I have no clue what happened with the links, they worked fine for me. But it seems that most who tried were able to get through to one or both images, and most were able to tell which was the moon and which was the cat. So, no harm done except for the beginning of a pun thread. Which, thankfully, seems to have died a well-deserved death. stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
