Re: PESO - Old Root

[Attila Boros]

On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 11:23 PM, Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne
 wrote:

> http://alunfoto.blogspot.no/2013/11/old-root.html

Very nice composition and DOF.

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Re: PESO: Pine Trees

[Attila Boros]

On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 1:26 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:

> A very inviting scene, Attila. Especially so since the temp is stuck
> at about zero C here. :-)

Thanks Bruce! That was in August, and indeed very pleasant.

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Re: PESO - After the Show

[Attila Boros]

On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 3:58 AM, Richard Womer  wrote:

> A shot from the window of my NYC hotel room:
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17597038&size=lg

Nice street scene, well seen! I like that you included part of the building.

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Re: PESO - A Dog Ran Through It

[Derby Chang]

Terrific shot. And the couple in the background makes it. Hand-stands 
have my attention at the moment.




On 19/11/2013 12:45 PM, knarf wrote:

I was shooting this fellow doing gymnastics at a bench in Trinity-Bellwoods Park here in 
Toronto. I didn't notice the "intruder" at all during the shoot however as I 
went through the photos I saw him:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/11/a-dog-ran-through-it.html?m=1

and it was to me the most interesting frame by far.

Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.

Cheers,
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Re: PESO - Wizard Pup

[Attila Boros]

On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 4:53 AM, knarf  wrote:

> Silly title. Kind of an inside joke. But a cute little guy:
>
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/11/wizard-pup.html?m=1

Very nice dog:)

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Re: PESO And now for something completely different [nsfw]

[Derby Chang]

I would have loved the shot regardless, but the model commentary is 
perfect. Thanks for including that.




On 21/11/2013 7:41 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

I mean it about nsfw.

At the risk of completely reversing all of the tolerant goodwill I
have builtup with my recent nude shots, I present, well ... this.

Wait!  Before I give you the link, I'd just like to explain how this
happened. I was about to ask her to change into a different outfit
while I altered the lighting when she said to me, "Let me just try
this one thing. *Flip*  Okay, shoot."

Finally, I'll give you this quote from the model herself whose idea
this was, and whose retouch/edit this is too:

"I really liked this shot from the start, for its not-quite-there
playful slightly off not quite elegant not quite proper not quite
anything childishness. Like raw childishness, not pretty cute
childishiness. Don't know how to explain. Possibly one of the best
portraits of myself. I was always not quite there, slightly off,
feminine but not quite, but yet inescapably so, weird, queer, tomboy
but not looking like one, dancing, not belonging/belonging, almost
pretty, capable but still clumsy etc.. :P And this shot shows it all.
It's such a silly, silly tutu handstand. :P Complete with stocking,
heels, tummy, weird not quite there hair. And feels like polaroid.
Even if I am the only one who likes it, I will love it till the end.
:P"

http://off-axis.brucemwalker.com/post/67524408427

Comments guardedly welcome. :-)




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Re: PESO - After the Show

[Alan C]

Very interesting - the symmetry, the architecture, the colours & the 
lighting. A few people busy texting too.


Alan C

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A shot from the window of my NYC hotel room:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17597038&size=lg

(K-5, DA 50-200)

Comments?

Rick

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OT - Damn Carlsen

[Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne]

Not everyone's cup of tea, but I just have to vent.
The ongoing events in Chennai are distracting me. :-)
Seriously. :-(

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Re: OT - Damn Carlsen

[Boris Liberman]

You have very strong contender...

On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne
 wrote:
> Not everyone's cup of tea, but I just have to vent.
> The ongoing events in Chennai are distracting me. :-)
> Seriously. :-(
>
> Jostein
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Re: OT - Damn Carlsen

[Boris Liberman]

I think, Jostein just managed to Check our up to datedness...

On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Alan C  wrote:
> Relax, Mate!
>
> Alan C
>
> -Original Message- From: Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne
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> Not everyone's cup of tea, but I just have to vent.
> The ongoing events in Chennai are distracting me. :-)
> Seriously. :-(
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Re: Photoshop CC & Lightroom now available to all

[steve harley]

on 2013-11-20 16:51 Brian Walters wrote

...for a limited time.  $9.99/month on a 12 month commitment.


or $30/month for the whole suite (same as the "intro" price that expired for me 
in May); not sure if that is available to all — i got an email offer from 
Adobe; i had canceled after my first year because i judged it not worth 
$50/month for my casual uses, but i do use InDesign, Photoshop and Acrobat 
enough to make $30 close to reasonable


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Re: PESO - After the Show

[Bruce]

Pretty cool shot.   I like the perspective. 

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Richard Womer  wrote:
>A shot from the window of my NYC hotel room:
>
>http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17597038&size=lg
>
>(K-5, DA 50-200)
>
>Comments?
>
>Rick


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Re: K-3 launch non-report

[John]

On 11/20/2013 7:09 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:


On Nov 20, 2013, at 6:27 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:


On 21/11/13, Derby Chang, discombobulated, unleashed:


Promotional models were discussing promoting.


Ahh, that's okay then.

I thought the model-on-the-left was playing with the model-on-the-
right's tits.

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Cotty, I suppose you noticed that neither model was full-frame?
But at least both models were branded Pentax and not Ricoh!

stan




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Re: PESO - Badwater Basin

[Ann Sanfedele]

The first one is the truth :-) like the use of pano here,
Badwater shot is GORGEOUS!

The golf course is a bogey for me, because the mid and far sections
are out of focus but not enough out of focus... your discomfort shows
sorry, J, rare to say one of your shots doesn't work for me -
maybe you have another frame that gets the um point across ?

ann




On 11/21/2013 09:08, Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne wrote:

http://alunfoto.blogspot.no/2013/11/badwater-basin.html

Three images.

The pano is stitched from five or six exposures, and covers an angle
somewhere between 120 and 150 degrees horizontally.

The Devil's Golf Course is perhaps the most uninviting environment I've
ever tried to photograph in. I thought salt crystals would be brittle,
so those in Death Valley were surprisingly hard and unpleasant to sit
down among.

Jostein



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Re: PESO: Focus Stack

[Bill]

On 20/11/2013 9:51 PM, knarf wrote:

Cool!


Thanks Frank

bill


cheers,
frank

Bill  wrote:

This stuff is fun.
I put the bellows and the hundred macro onto the K3, and mounted the
whole thing to a Chinese focusing stage. I then shot 16 images (I don't

know where 36 came from) and loaded them as Photoshop Layers.
A couple of quick commands and voila. I missed the focus in a couple of

areas anyway, so I decided to run it through Portraiture/ Glamour for
kicks. See if I could make it into art.

K3, 100mm Bellows Takumar on Bellows K. ISO 100, f/8, 10 seconds per
exposure.
Enjoy

http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrphoto/pictures/experiment1.html

bill


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SV: OT - Damn Carlsen

[Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne]

Alan,
It was a comment partly in jest. :-)

As a teacher, I find most of my students preoccupied in the lessons. In the 
teachers' study room there is an eerie atmosphere while the games are on. 
While it has not yet happened where I work, some schools have had to shut 
out certain streaming services from the local firewalls to prevent the 
network from overload. It's quite a buzz this guy has stirred up here in the 
Frostpit.


As a former amateur chess player (no match for Boris, tho), I'm sucked in 
too. :-)


Jostein

-Opprinnelig melding- 
Fra: Alan C

Dato: 21. november 2013 12:44
Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Emne: Re: OT - Damn Carlsen

Relax, Mate!

Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne

Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 1:22 PM
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Not everyone's cup of tea, but I just have to vent.
The ongoing events in Chennai are distracting me. :-)
Seriously. :-(

Jostein


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Re: PESO - Badwater Basin

[Ken Waller]

Jostein,

I find the unevenness of the Salt Plain 'horizon' distracting, otherwise an 
interesting capture.


Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - 
From: "Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne" 

Subject: PESO - Badwater Basin



http://alunfoto.blogspot.no/2013/11/badwater-basin.html

Three images.

The pano is stitched from five or six exposures, and covers an angle 
somewhere between 120 and 150 degrees horizontally.


The Devil's Golf Course is perhaps the most uninviting environment I've 
ever tried to photograph in. I thought salt crystals would be brittle, so 
those in Death Valley were surprisingly hard and unpleasant to sit down 
among.


Jostein



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Re: PESO - Badwater Basin

[Attila Boros]

On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne
 wrote:

> http://alunfoto.blogspot.no/2013/11/badwater-basin.html

Salt Plain is excellent, lots of detail, it's like I'm standing there.

Badwater has a nice composition, the reflection of the mountains holds
my interest. It's strange to see vegetation nearby, I thought the
water was much too salty around there.

I don't get the Devil's Golf Course, never been there and don't know
what I'm looking at. Maybe it would work with a greater DOF.

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Re: PESO And now for something completely different [nsfw]

[Bruce Walker]

On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 10:56 PM, knarf  wrote:
> I haven't been commenting on your other nsfw shots for a very specific reason.
> I may elucidate one day.

I can guess, but I'm probably wrong. :) I'd like to hear; feel free to
msg me off-list if you'd rather.


> But I like this one! Very whimsical, great fun.

Thank you very much Frank. Honestly I would not have guessed that
you'd say that. Should that tell me more about you or me?

To me this shot is analogous to the punchline of a good bawdy joke: an
initial shock followed by a gut laugh when you realize how utterly
ridiculous it looks.


> Cheers,
> frank
>
> Bruce Walker  wrote:
>>I mean it about nsfw.
>>
>>At the risk of completely reversing all of the tolerant goodwill I
>>have builtup with my recent nude shots, I present, well ... this.
>>
>>Wait!  Before I give you the link, I'd just like to explain how this
>>happened. I was about to ask her to change into a different outfit
>>while I altered the lighting when she said to me, "Let me just try
>>this one thing. *Flip*  Okay, shoot."
>>
>>Finally, I'll give you this quote from the model herself whose idea
>>this was, and whose retouch/edit this is too:
>>
>>"I really liked this shot from the start, for its not-quite-there
>>playful slightly off not quite elegant not quite proper not quite
>>anything childishness. Like raw childishness, not pretty cute
>>childishiness. Don't know how to explain. Possibly one of the best
>>portraits of myself. I was always not quite there, slightly off,
>>feminine but not quite, but yet inescapably so, weird, queer, tomboy
>>but not looking like one, dancing, not belonging/belonging, almost
>>pretty, capable but still clumsy etc.. :P And this shot shows it all.
>>It's such a silly, silly tutu handstand. :P Complete with stocking,
>>heels, tummy, weird not quite there hair. And feels like polaroid.
>>Even if I am the only one who likes it, I will love it till the end.
>>:P"
>>
>>http://off-axis.brucemwalker.com/post/67524408427
>>
>>Comments guardedly welcome. :-)
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Re: OT - Cameramen Wear the Best Pants

[John]

It's nowhere near as funny as Atilla's "Rhabarberbarbara" video.

YouTube is going down the tubes as far as I'm concerned. I can't make a 
comment anymore because it wants me to make my Google+ ID my YouTube ID, 
and if I wanted to do that I wouldn't have a YouTube ID in the first place.


On 11/20/2013 4:41 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote:



Bob:

But why?
Your high-school sweetheart left you for a guy wearing such pants?
;-)

I would understand if you are talking about such pants when there are
some other pants under them, but what's wrong with them being just
by themselves, as shorts?

Cotty:
So, if I need to figure out what's in today's weather forecast, I should
look at a cameraman?

Igor


Wed Nov 20 14:53:37 EST 2013
Bob W wrote:

  I think the penalty for wearing zip-off trouser legs should be to have your 
legs made zip-off, without anaesthetic. In fact, not even for wearing them, 
just for thinking about getting some, that should be the penalty.

I'd also like the penalty to include zip-off arms, but obviously that could 
only work for one of them.

B


On 20 Nov 2013, at 19:18, "Steve Cottrell"  wrote:

4 mins video podcast re attire.

Tickled me









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Re: PESO - Badwater Basin

[Paul Stenquist]

After reading your comments I went back and looked again. Yes, the second pic 
is excellent. I agree tat the DOF on the third is somewhat unhappy.

Paul
On Nov 21, 2013, at 1:28 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:

> Looks like Paul and Ken only looked at the first photo..
> which is a shame because the second one is gorgeous
> 
> ann
> 
> On 11/21/2013 11:58, Ken Waller wrote:
>> Jostein,
>> 
>> I find the unevenness of the Salt Plain 'horizon' distracting, otherwise
>> an interesting capture.
>> 
>> Kenneth Waller
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne"
>> 
>> Subject: PESO - Badwater Basin
>> 
>> 
>>> http://alunfoto.blogspot.no/2013/11/badwater-basin.html
>>> 
>>> Three images.
>>> 
>>> The pano is stitched from five or six exposures, and covers an angle
>>> somewhere between 120 and 150 degrees horizontally.
>>> 
>>> The Devil's Golf Course is perhaps the most uninviting environment
>>> I've ever tried to photograph in. I thought salt crystals would be
>>> brittle, so those in Death Valley were surprisingly hard and
>>> unpleasant to sit down among.
>>> 
>>> Jostein
>> 
>> 
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Re: K-3 launch non-report

[John]

War Stories?

The one on the left is telling the other one, "No Shit! This's a true 
story ... there I was ..."


On 11/20/2013 11:36 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote:



http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/13/11/twilight/index.html


If you would just like to explain what's going on in number 5, I would
be very much obliged.




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Re: Sharpening Radius?

[steve harley]

and here it is in the words of the great Bruce Fraser:




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Re: PESO And now for something completely different [nsfw]

[Bruce Walker]

An unexpected bonus for me of working in creative studio settings is
getting to know really interesting people, like this young woman who I
can now call a friend. Models have an undeserved reputation as
shallow, dull people, but that hasn't been my experience so far --
maybe I've just been fortunate. Alina, for example has the
intelligence, drive and insights to become the CEO of a green tech
company or something similar one day.

Thank you Derby.


On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 3:57 AM, Derby Chang  wrote:
>
> I would have loved the shot regardless, but the model commentary is perfect.
> Thanks for including that.
>
>
>
>
> On 21/11/2013 7:41 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>>
>> I mean it about nsfw.
>>
>> At the risk of completely reversing all of the tolerant goodwill I
>> have builtup with my recent nude shots, I present, well ... this.
>>
>> Wait!  Before I give you the link, I'd just like to explain how this
>> happened. I was about to ask her to change into a different outfit
>> while I altered the lighting when she said to me, "Let me just try
>> this one thing. *Flip*  Okay, shoot."
>>
>> Finally, I'll give you this quote from the model herself whose idea
>> this was, and whose retouch/edit this is too:
>>
>> "I really liked this shot from the start, for its not-quite-there
>> playful slightly off not quite elegant not quite proper not quite
>> anything childishness. Like raw childishness, not pretty cute
>> childishiness. Don't know how to explain. Possibly one of the best
>> portraits of myself. I was always not quite there, slightly off,
>> feminine but not quite, but yet inescapably so, weird, queer, tomboy
>> but not looking like one, dancing, not belonging/belonging, almost
>> pretty, capable but still clumsy etc.. :P And this shot shows it all.
>> It's such a silly, silly tutu handstand. :P Complete with stocking,
>> heels, tummy, weird not quite there hair. And feels like polaroid.
>> Even if I am the only one who likes it, I will love it till the end.
>> :P"
>>
>> http://off-axis.brucemwalker.com/post/67524408427
>>
>> Comments guardedly welcome. :-)
>>
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Re: Two Upgrade Questions

[Boris Liberman]

Collin, here are my two totally uneducated cents:

1. The difference between the coatings will probably be all but
insignificant. I think it is more a marketing exercise that true
technology. That is not to say that they've just renamed the SMC. They
did change the coatings, but SMC is extremely good as it is.

2. No clue here. I assume it be quiet (as opposed to silent) and more
reliable than SDM, but please notice - I'm assuming.

On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 4:12 PM, CollinB  wrote:
> I'm curious ...
>
> Is Pentax/Ricoh upgrading the whole line, over time, to the new HD coatings?
> I wonder how long this might take.
>
> Any thoughts on the new in-lens DC AF solution?Might be quieter than the
> standard and more reliable than SDM.
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Re: PESO - A Dog Ran Through It

[Bruce Walker]

On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 3:51 AM, Derby Chang  wrote:
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> Terrific shot. And the couple in the background makes it. Hand-stands have
> my attention at the moment.

LOL!  ;-)

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Re: Two Upgrade Questions

[Bill]

On 21/11/2013 8:12 AM, CollinB wrote:

I'm curious ...

Is Pentax/Ricoh upgrading the whole line, over time, to the new HD coatings?
I wonder how long this might take.


Probably, who knows.


Any thoughts on the new in-lens DC AF solution?Might be quieter than the
standard and more reliable than SDM.



I bought the 18-135 with my K3. It's fast enough, and quiet. I suspect 
that DC and SDM are pretty much the same thing, except DC doesn't have 
the bad smell (yet) that SDM developed.

I suspect that whatever the in lens AF is now, we are past the SDM problems.

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Re: PESO - Wizard Pup

[Ann Sanfedele]

The perfect "Adopt me" pic

ann

On 11/21/2013 01:25, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

Great looking pup!  I like the ears.  :-)

Godfrey


On Nov 20, 2013, at 6:53 PM, knarf  wrote:

Silly title. Kind of an inside joke. But a cute little guy:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/11/wizard-pup.html?m=1




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PESOs Grace Tonight

[Paul Stenquist]

Got a few grab shots of Grace in the kitchen when she came home tonight. All 
with the K-3 and DA* 16-50. All at ISO 6400, f4.5, 1/1506h, 50 mm. Some 
cropping, minimal sharpening. Shot in AWB mode. I have it set to retain some 
warmth in tungsten light. Looked a bit warm to me, so I set white balance when 
converting the RAWs.

It has occurred to me that with less sharpening required, low light photos with 
the K-3 may be superior to those of the K-5. 

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17607779

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17607780

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17607781

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Re: PESO - Badwater Basin

[Paul Stenquist]

Another fascinating photo.

Paul
On Nov 21, 2013, at 9:08 AM, Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne  wrote:

> http://alunfoto.blogspot.no/2013/11/badwater-basin.html
> 
> Three images.
> 
> The pano is stitched from five or six exposures, and covers an angle 
> somewhere between 120 and 150 degrees horizontally.
> 
> The Devil's Golf Course is perhaps the most uninviting environment I've ever 
> tried to photograph in. I thought salt crystals would be brittle, so those in 
> Death Valley were surprisingly hard and unpleasant to sit down among.
> 
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Re: PESO And now for something completely different [nsfw]

[Bruce Walker]

On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 6:44 PM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> On 20/11/13, Bruce Walker, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>"I really liked this shot from the start, for its not-quite-there
>>playful slightly off not quite elegant not quite proper not quite
>>anything childishness. Like raw childishness, not pretty cute
>>childishiness. Don't know how to explain. Possibly one of the best
>>portraits of myself. I was always not quite there, slightly off,
>>feminine but not quite, but yet inescapably so, weird, queer, tomboy
>>but not looking like one, dancing, not belonging/belonging, almost
>>pretty, capable but still clumsy etc.. :P And this shot shows it all.
>>It's such a silly, silly tutu handstand. :P Complete with stocking,
>>heels, tummy, weird not quite there hair. And feels like polaroid.
>>Even if I am the only one who likes it, I will love it till the end.
>>:P"
>
> Totally pretentious luvvy shite!!!
>
>
>
> http://off-axis.brucemwalker.com/post/67524408427
>
> That's the best and most inventive pic I've seen in ages. Well done!

The model told me to tell you "Thanks!"

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Re: Photoshop CC & Lightroom now available to all

[Paul Stenquist]

I got that offer as well. But I'm okay with PS6 for now. Don't see any real 
advantage to sending them more money.

Paul
On Nov 21, 2013, at 5:05 PM, steve harley  wrote:

> on 2013-11-20 16:51 Brian Walters wrote
>> ...for a limited time.  $9.99/month on a 12 month commitment.
> 
> or $30/month for the whole suite (same as the "intro" price that expired for 
> me in May); not sure if that is available to all — i got an email offer from 
> Adobe; i had canceled after my first year because i judged it not worth 
> $50/month for my casual uses, but i do use InDesign, Photoshop and Acrobat 
> enough to make $30 close to reasonable
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Re: OT - Damn Carlsen

[Attila Boros]

On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne
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> Not everyone's cup of tea, but I just have to vent.
> The ongoing events in Chennai are distracting me. :-)
> Seriously. :-(

Wow that's happening now? You've got me totally not up to date here. I
have too many interests and too little free time to pursue them all.
Thanks for the heads up:)

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Re: Sharpening Radius?

[Bruce Walker]

Paul, it's a Lightroom feature.

On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 7:56 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
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> guess. Not that it wouldn't be a good investment.
>
> I can't get that radius adjustment mask to work on my Mac. Any clues? The alt 
> key would seem to e option or command, but neither produces any kind of 
> change in radius adjustment on either Smart Sharpen or Unsharp Mask.
>
> Best,
> Paul
> On Nov 21, 2013, at 3:53 PM, steve harley  wrote:
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>> and here it is in the words of the great Bruce Fraser:
>>
>> 
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Re: Sharpening Radius?

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Thanks David. So is there a way to see the radius change in PhotoShop?

Paul

On Nov 21, 2013, at 7:59 PM, David Parsons  wrote:

> Pressing the Alt key is a Lightroom thing.  It works differently in Photoshop.
> 
> On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 7:56 PM, Paul Stenquist  
> wrote:
>> Some nice theory here but no practical info. Have to buy the book for that I 
>> guess. Not that it wouldn't be a good investment.
>> 
>> I can't get that radius adjustment mask to work on my Mac. Any clues? The 
>> alt key would seem to e option or command, but neither produces any kind of 
>> change in radius adjustment on either Smart Sharpen or Unsharp Mask.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Paul
>> On Nov 21, 2013, at 3:53 PM, steve harley  wrote:
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>>> and here it is in the words of the great Bruce Fraser:
>>> 
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Re: OT - Damn Carlsen

[Alan C]

Well, well, well. He only needs a ½ now!

Alan C

-Original Message- 
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Not sure about that. Black could counter with Q7.
Jostein

-Opprinnelig melding- 
From: Alan C

Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 7:15 PM
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Could you win by moving to K3!

Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: Boris Liberman

Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 6:25 PM
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We could have a chess tournament of PDML. The chess by e-mail seems
like a very interesting past time.

On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Alan C  wrote:

Now that's what I call national support. He only needs 1½ points from the
last 4 games.

I also ran a club years ago when I taught. We played regularly in a league
&
various tournaments. Then I discovered there are only 24hrs in a day.


Alan C

-Original Message- From: Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 3:19 PM
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Alan,
It was a comment partly in jest. :-)

As a teacher, I find most of my students preoccupied in the lessons. In
the
teachers' study room there is an eerie atmosphere while the games are on.
While it has not yet happened where I work, some schools have had to shut
out certain streaming services from the local firewalls to prevent the
network from overload. It's quite a buzz this guy has stirred up here in
the
Frostpit.

As a former amateur chess player (no match for Boris, tho), I'm sucked in
too. :-)

Jostein

-Opprinnelig melding- Fra: Alan C
Dato: 21. november 2013 12:44
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Relax, Mate!

Alan C

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Not everyone's cup of tea, but I just have to vent.
The ongoing events in Chennai are distracting me. :-)
Seriously. :-(

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Re: Sharpening Radius?

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Other than trying it out, not that I know of.  I usually left it at
1.1-1.3 for most sharpening when I was using PS.

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> Thanks David. So is there a way to see the radius change in PhotoShop?
>
> Paul
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> On Nov 21, 2013, at 7:59 PM, David Parsons  wrote:
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>> Pressing the Alt key is a Lightroom thing.  It works differently in 
>> Photoshop.
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>> On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 7:56 PM, Paul Stenquist  
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>>> I guess. Not that it wouldn't be a good investment.
>>>
>>> I can't get that radius adjustment mask to work on my Mac. Any clues? The 
>>> alt key would seem to e option or command, but neither produces any kind of 
>>> change in radius adjustment on either Smart Sharpen or Unsharp Mask.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Paul
>>> On Nov 21, 2013, at 3:53 PM, steve harley  wrote:
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Two Upgrade Questions

[CollinB]

I'm curious ... 

Is Pentax/Ricoh upgrading the whole line, over time, to the new HD coatings?
I wonder how long this might take.

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Re: Sharpening Radius?

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That's about what I did with the k-5, sometimes 1.5 for hard edge subjects like 
cars. Using much less with k-3. More like 0.5 at 40 percent.

Paul via phone

> On Nov 21, 2013, at 8:17 PM, David Parsons  wrote:
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> Other than trying it out, not that I know of.  I usually left it at
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> 
>> On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Paul Stenquist  
>> wrote:
>> Thanks David. So is there a way to see the radius change in PhotoShop?
>> 
>> Paul
>> 
>>> On Nov 21, 2013, at 7:59 PM, David Parsons  wrote:
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>>> Pressing the Alt key is a Lightroom thing.  It works differently in 
>>> Photoshop.
>>> 
 On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 7:56 PM, Paul Stenquist  
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 Some nice theory here but no practical info. Have to buy the book for that 
 I guess. Not that it wouldn't be a good investment.
 
 I can't get that radius adjustment mask to work on my Mac. Any clues? The 
 alt key would seem to e option or command, but neither produces any kind 
 of change in radius adjustment on either Smart Sharpen or Unsharp Mask.
 
 Best,
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Re: PESO - Badwater Basin

[Ann Sanfedele]

I had a feeling :-)

ann

On 11/21/2013 14:51, Paul Stenquist wrote:

After reading your comments I went back and looked again. Yes, the second pic 
is excellent. I agree tat the DOF on the third is somewhat unhappy.

Paul
On Nov 21, 2013, at 1:28 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:


Looks like Paul and Ken only looked at the first photo..
which is a shame because the second one is gorgeous

ann

On 11/21/2013 11:58, Ken Waller wrote:

Jostein,

I find the unevenness of the Salt Plain 'horizon' distracting, otherwise
an interesting capture.

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - From: "Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne"

Subject: PESO - Badwater Basin



http://alunfoto.blogspot.no/2013/11/badwater-basin.html

Three images.

The pano is stitched from five or six exposures, and covers an angle
somewhere between 120 and 150 degrees horizontally.

The Devil's Golf Course is perhaps the most uninviting environment
I've ever tried to photograph in. I thought salt crystals would be
brittle, so those in Death Valley were surprisingly hard and
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Re: PESO: Focus Stack

[Bruce]

Looks pretty cool.It would be nice to see a before/after to compare.   
Before would be a single shot with focus somewhere.   Just to clearly show the 
capability. 

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Bill  wrote:
>This stuff is fun.
>I put the bellows and the hundred macro onto the K3, and mounted the 
>whole thing to a Chinese focusing stage. I then shot 16 images (I don't
>
>know where 36 came from) and loaded them as Photoshop Layers.
>A couple of quick commands and voila. I missed the focus in a couple of
>
>areas anyway, so I decided to run it through Portraiture/ Glamour for 
>kicks. See if I could make it into art.
>
>K3, 100mm Bellows Takumar on Bellows K. ISO 100, f/8, 10 seconds per 
>exposure.
>Enjoy
>
>http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrphoto/pictures/experiment1.html
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Re: PESO - RIP Minnie 1992-2013

[steve harley]

on 2013-11-19 14:48 Steve Cottrell wrote

Sad cat news

Our VERY old silver tabby, Minnie, passed away last night, peacefully
and in no pain after an amazingly long life -


ah, sorry to hear it … sweet photo of an experienced cat


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Re: Two Upgrade Questions

[Dario Bonazza]

OK, but how can we know? My guess is as good as yours.
Dario

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Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 3:12 PM
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Subject: Two Upgrade Questions

I'm curious ...

Is Pentax/Ricoh upgrading the whole line, over time, to the new HD coatings?
I wonder how long this might take.

Any thoughts on the new in-lens DC AF solution?Might be quieter than the
standard and more reliable than SDM.



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Re: PESO And now for something completely different [nsfw]

[Bill]

On 20/11/2013 2:41 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

I mean it about nsfw.

At the risk of completely reversing all of the tolerant goodwill I
have builtup with my recent nude shots, I present, well ... this.

Wait!  Before I give you the link, I'd just like to explain how this
happened. I was about to ask her to change into a different outfit
while I altered the lighting when she said to me, "Let me just try
this one thing. *Flip*  Okay, shoot."

Finally, I'll give you this quote from the model herself whose idea
this was, and whose retouch/edit this is too:

"I really liked this shot from the start, for its not-quite-there
playful slightly off not quite elegant not quite proper not quite
anything childishness. Like raw childishness, not pretty cute
childishiness. Don't know how to explain. Possibly one of the best
portraits of myself. I was always not quite there, slightly off,
feminine but not quite, but yet inescapably so, weird, queer, tomboy
but not looking like one, dancing, not belonging/belonging, almost
pretty, capable but still clumsy etc.. :P And this shot shows it all.
It's such a silly, silly tutu handstand. :P Complete with stocking,
heels, tummy, weird not quite there hair. And feels like polaroid.
Even if I am the only one who likes it, I will love it till the end.
:P"

http://off-axis.brucemwalker.com/post/67524408427

Comments guardedly welcome. :-)



That is great comedy, both picture and commentary.
bill

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Re: Sharpening Radius?

[steve harley]

on 2013-11-21 17:56 Paul Stenquist wrote

Some nice theory here but no practical info. Have to buy the book for that I 
guess. Not that it wouldn't be a good investment.


there was specific practical info, even a "calculator", in my prior link

Bruce Fraser's books, particularly Real World Scanning and Halftones, have been 
considered best quality by prepress folks, but i haven't kept up with that 
world so they may have been surpassed



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Re: PESO - RIP Minnie 1992-2013

[John]

On 11/19/2013 4:48 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

Sad cat news

Our VERY old silver tabby, Minnie, passed away last night, peacefully
and in no pain after an amazingly long life - seeing in both the berth
of our son, Stefan, and his departure for university. Will be rifling
the archives for the Mrs in due course, here's one that came easily to
hand for a PESO. Shot a couple of years ago, can't remember the camera
or lens, but it does what it says on the tin.





Sorry for your loss.

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Re: PESO: Focus Stack

[Bruce Walker]

On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 5:56 AM, Jan van Wijk  wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 19:25:22 -0600 Bill wrote:
>>
>>This stuff is fun.
>>I put the bellows and the hundred macro onto the K3, and mounted the whole 
>>thing to a Chinese focusing stage.
>>I then shot 16 images (I don't know where 36 came from) and loaded them as 
>>Photoshop Layers.
>>A couple of quick commands and voila.
>
> Hmm, anything special? Does Photoshop directly support focus-stacking somehow?

Yes, Jan, it does and has for several versions now. It includes auto
aligning and creates layer masks so you can manually tweak the results
to your liking. I've used it in food photography to get a large cake
in complete focus.

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Re: Sharpening Radius?

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Nov 21, 2013, at 4:56 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:

> I can't get that radius adjustment mask to work on my Mac. Any clues? The alt 
> key would seem to e option or command, but neither produces any kind of 
> change in radius adjustment on either Smart Sharpen or Unsharp Mask.

Paul, 

It works the same in Lightroom as it does in the Camera Raw plugin. I'm running 
PS CS 5.1 with Camera Raw 6.7, but I'm sure it's the same with later versions.

You go to the Detail panel in Camera Raw, hold the Option key down, and click 
on any of the Amount, Radius, Detail, or Masking sliders. Keeping the Option 
key held down, slide the slider around. You'll see the effect of the adjustment 
against a high-pass filtered gray backdrop. If you lift off the Option key, the 
view returns to normal, then you can press it again (mouse button still down on 
the slider) to return to the high-pass filtered view. 

G



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Re: Sharpening Radius?

[Paul Stenquist]

Thanks Godfrey. I've been sharpening in PS after conversion but I'll give this 
a try.

Paul via phone

> On Nov 21, 2013, at 9:10 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
>> On Nov 21, 2013, at 4:56 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
>> 
>> I can't get that radius adjustment mask to work on my Mac. Any clues? The 
>> alt key would seem to e option or command, but neither produces any kind of 
>> change in radius adjustment on either Smart Sharpen or Unsharp Mask.
> 
> Paul, 
> 
> It works the same in Lightroom as it does in the Camera Raw plugin. I'm 
> running PS CS 5.1 with Camera Raw 6.7, but I'm sure it's the same with later 
> versions.
> 
> You go to the Detail panel in Camera Raw, hold the Option key down, and click 
> on any of the Amount, Radius, Detail, or Masking sliders. Keeping the Option 
> key held down, slide the slider around. You'll see the effect of the 
> adjustment against a high-pass filtered gray backdrop. If you lift off the 
> Option key, the view returns to normal, then you can press it again (mouse 
> button still down on the slider) to return to the high-pass filtered view. 
> 
> G
> 
> 
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PESO - Down the Manhole

[Richard Womer]

The arteries, veins, and nerves of Manhattan:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17597045&size=lg

(K-5, DA 16-45; 1/20 and ISO 9000. Love that high-iso and anti-shake.)

Comments?

Rick

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PESO: alternate stacking approach

[Stan Halpin]

You've seen Bill's lovely flower; from me you get dead leaves.

Bill did adjustments to his 16 images in Camera Raw and then sent them to 
Photoshop to merge layers.
I sent my 10 images to Helicon Focus, then did adjustments on the output merged 
image. (Using LR4)
Bill used a bellows and 100mm macro.
I used the 35mm macro.
Bill's subject had a clear three-dimensional quality to it.
My subject probably has about the same depth but the gradations from near to 
far are a bit more subtle.

I used Liveview and focus peaking to do the successive image slices through the 
subject and I believe Bill did the same.

So, what you see here is not in any sense a replication of Bill's work, but 
rather an independent totally different example of this focus stacking business.

I uploaded 4 images:

First, a 6016x4000 image downsized to 2400xwhatever. This is the full stack of 
10 images.
Full Stack:  http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p155717848/e387e914

Next, the "best" single image from the series, same dimensions as above.
Single image:  http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p155717848/e3dba3814

Next a 1-to-1 crop of the stacked image:
1024x735 portion of full stack:  
http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p155717848/e2015d44d

And then a 1311x1017 1-to-1 crop of the single image.
1311x1017 portion of single image:  
http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p155717848/e24f2cbe0

Note that once you've followed the first link, click on the image for a larger 
view. From there, a right-arrows takes you to the next, left-arow brings you 
back etc. so you can do comparisons more easily.
Also note that I applied the same adjustments to the single image that I had 
previously arrived at for the stacked image.

stan
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Re: Sharpening Radius?

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

The technique doesn't work with the post-raw-conversion RGB composite tools, 
only in the raw conversion plug-in. 

Doing overall input sharpening is generally better performed on the raw data as 
there is more overhead and more data to work with then. The RGB tools are best 
used for creative and output sharpening. 

G

On Nov 21, 2013, at 6:16 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:

> Thanks Godfrey. I've been sharpening in PS after conversion but I'll give 
> this a try.
> 
> Paul via phone
> 
>> On Nov 21, 2013, at 9:10 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
>> 
>>> On Nov 21, 2013, at 4:56 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I can't get that radius adjustment mask to work on my Mac. Any clues? The 
>>> alt key would seem to e option or command, but neither produces any kind of 
>>> change in radius adjustment on either Smart Sharpen or Unsharp Mask.
>> 
>> Paul, 
>> 
>> It works the same in Lightroom as it does in the Camera Raw plugin. I'm 
>> running PS CS 5.1 with Camera Raw 6.7, but I'm sure it's the same with later 
>> versions.
>> 
>> You go to the Detail panel in Camera Raw, hold the Option key down, and 
>> click on any of the Amount, Radius, Detail, or Masking sliders. Keeping the 
>> Option key held down, slide the slider around. You'll see the effect of the 
>> adjustment against a high-pass filtered gray backdrop. If you lift off the 
>> Option key, the view returns to normal, then you can press it again (mouse 
>> button still down on the slider) to return to the high-pass filtered view. 


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Re: PESO And now for something completely different [nsfw]

[Bruce Walker]

On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 03:41:43PM -0500, Bruce Walker wrote:
>> I mean it about nsfw.
>>
>> At the risk of completely reversing all of the tolerant goodwill I
>> have builtup with my recent nude shots, I present, well ... this.
>>
>> Wait!  Before I give you the link, I'd just like to explain how this
>> happened. I was about to ask her to change into a different outfit
>> while I altered the lighting when she said to me, "Let me just try
>> this one thing. *Flip*  Okay, shoot."
>>
>> Finally, I'll give you this quote from the model herself whose idea
>> this was, and whose retouch/edit this is too:
>>
>> "I really liked this shot from the start, for its not-quite-there
>> playful slightly off not quite elegant not quite proper not quite
>> anything childishness. Like raw childishness, not pretty cute
>> childishiness. Don't know how to explain. Possibly one of the best
>> portraits of myself. I was always not quite there, slightly off,
>> feminine but not quite, but yet inescapably so, weird, queer, tomboy
>> but not looking like one, dancing, not belonging/belonging, almost
>> pretty, capable but still clumsy etc.. :P And this shot shows it all.
>> It's such a silly, silly tutu handstand. :P Complete with stocking,
>> heels, tummy, weird not quite there hair. And feels like polaroid.
>> Even if I am the only one who likes it, I will love it till the end.
>> :P"
>
> Which end?

:-)


>> http://off-axis.brucemwalker.com/post/67524408427
>
> I quite like it!  It looked a bit dark on my phone.
>
> A tremendous number of my best photos can be described as:
> "We were doing a fetish shoot, and things got silly".

Thank you, Larry!

I agree it's a bit dark. It's the model's edit (she's a photographer
and graphic designer too) and she wanted a pseudo Polaroid look. Other
than colour grading she did nothing else to it as far as I can see. It
would be a bit dark because in order to accomplish the handstand she
had to move to the right of my light setup where I had an overhead
gridded softbox.


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Re: OT: Die Deutsche Sprache - Rhabarberbarbara

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

delightful. I sent it to a bunch of folks. thanks.

G

On Nov 20, 2013, at 3:00 PM, Attila Boros  wrote:

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gG62zay3kck
> 
> I don't actually speak German, but this is hilarious:)


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Re: PESO: Focus Stack

[Bill]

On 20/11/2013 10:06 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

I did "enjoy", Bill.
Strong image.


Thanks Jack. It needs a bit of work, unfortunately, I think the flower 
display is past it's best before date. I'll need to find another subject.


bill





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Subject: PESO: Focus Stack

This stuff is fun.
I put the bellows and the hundred macro onto the K3, and mounted the
whole thing to a Chinese focusing stage. I then shot 16 images (I don't
know where 36 came from) and loaded them as Photoshop Layers.
A couple of quick commands and voila. I missed the focus in a couple of
areas anyway, so I decided to run it through Portraiture/ Glamour for
kicks. See if I could make it into art.

K3, 100mm Bellows Takumar on Bellows K. ISO 100, f/8, 10 seconds per
exposure.
Enjoy

http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrphoto/pictures/experiment1.html

bill






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Re: PESO - Badwater Basin

[Jack Davis]

Yeah. been there. A (sarcastic) lovely place.

Jack 

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Subject: PESO - Badwater Basin

http://alunfoto.blogspot.no/2013/11/badwater-basin.html

Three images.

The pano is stitched from five or six exposures, and covers an angle 
somewhere between 120 and 150 degrees horizontally.

The Devil's Golf Course is perhaps the most uninviting environment I've ever 
tried to photograph in. I thought salt crystals would be brittle, so those 
in Death Valley were surprisingly hard and unpleasant to sit down among.

Jostein 


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Re: PESO: Focus Stack

[Bill]

On 21/11/2013 4:56 AM, Jan van Wijk wrote:

On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 19:25:22 -0600 Bill wrote:


This stuff is fun.
I put the bellows and the hundred macro onto the K3, and mounted the whole 
thing to a Chinese focusing stage.
I then shot 16 images (I don't know where 36 came from) and loaded them as 
Photoshop Layers.
A couple of quick commands and voila.


Hmm, anything special? Does Photoshop directly support focus-stacking somehow?


In Camera Raw, select all the images you want to work with and open 
them. Do whatever adjustments you want, but don't import them into 
Photoshop, just click done. This locks the adjustments.

Again in Camera Raw, go to tools/ photoshop/ open as layers .
The files will all be opened as layers of a single image, rather than as 
discreet images.
Select all the layers, and Edit/auto align. Depending on the number of 
layers, how big the open file is and how fast your computer is, this 
might take a while.
After the machine has chewed through that, Edit/auto blend layers. 
Again, you will get to sit and watch your machine churn through the 
images, and then, like magic, you have one layer on top that has 
everything in focus.

Flatten image and your done.




I missed the focus in a couple of areas anyway, so I decided to run it through 
Portraiture/ Glamour for kicks. See if I could make it into art.

K3, 100mm Bellows Takumar on Bellows K. ISO 100, f/8, 10 seconds per exposure.
Enjoy

http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrphoto/pictures/experiment1.html


Looks quite good to me!



Thank you. I'm not 100% happy with it, but this is technical photography 
first, so I won't be happy until I have it right.


bill


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PESO - Badwater Basin

[Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne]

http://alunfoto.blogspot.no/2013/11/badwater-basin.html

Three images.

The pano is stitched from five or six exposures, and covers an angle 
somewhere between 120 and 150 degrees horizontally.


The Devil's Golf Course is perhaps the most uninviting environment I've ever 
tried to photograph in. I thought salt crystals would be brittle, so those 
in Death Valley were surprisingly hard and unpleasant to sit down among.


Jostein 



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Re: K-3 just keeps getting better

[Attila Boros]

On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 5:54 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:

> K-3 holdouts, maybe cover your eyes now.

Well I'm just waiting for it to become available around here. Might
have to wait a little bit longer.


> I picked up my K-3 on Monday morning and I've been carrying it around
> since, shooting the usual suspects like my cats, teasels, leaves and
> trees, some hip-mounted street. Which is to say, nothing to show yet.
> Maybe a cat.

Definitely maybe:)


> But, each outing I try another feature. This morning's dog walk I
> tested focus peaking in live view. _OMFG_. This rocks like a
> hurricane. This makes using the 50-135 in MF a dream.

Well ever since I used focus peaking on my compact camera I wanted to
have it in a DSLR. Don't have to sell me on that one:)


> I'm positively giddy atm. I'm scouting and preparing for a family
> portrait shoot on the weekend and I cannot wait to get out there.

Enjoy!

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Re: K-3 just keeps getting better

[Boris Liberman]

That's why I've bought the Pentax to Leica adapter and shooting
happily with 50/1.2... /evil wink/

On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 5:54 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> K-3 holdouts, maybe cover your eyes now.
>
> I picked up my K-3 on Monday morning and I've been carrying it around
> since, shooting the usual suspects like my cats, teasels, leaves and
> trees, some hip-mounted street. Which is to say, nothing to show yet.
> Maybe a cat.
>
> But, each outing I try another feature. This morning's dog walk I
> tested focus peaking in live view. _OMFG_. This rocks like a
> hurricane. This makes using the 50-135 in MF a dream.
>
> I'm positively giddy atm. I'm scouting and preparing for a family
> portrait shoot on the weekend and I cannot wait to get out there.
>
> Just had to share. :-)
>
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Re: PESO: alternate stacking approach

[Bruce Walker]

Very attractive, Stan. Turned out beautifully with great detail.


On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 9:20 PM, Stan Halpin
 wrote:
> You've seen Bill's lovely flower; from me you get dead leaves.
>
> Bill did adjustments to his 16 images in Camera Raw and then sent them to 
> Photoshop to merge layers.
> I sent my 10 images to Helicon Focus, then did adjustments on the output 
> merged image. (Using LR4)
> Bill used a bellows and 100mm macro.
> I used the 35mm macro.
> Bill's subject had a clear three-dimensional quality to it.
> My subject probably has about the same depth but the gradations from near to 
> far are a bit more subtle.
>
> I used Liveview and focus peaking to do the successive image slices through 
> the subject and I believe Bill did the same.
>
> So, what you see here is not in any sense a replication of Bill's work, but 
> rather an independent totally different example of this focus stacking 
> business.
>
> I uploaded 4 images:
>
> First, a 6016x4000 image downsized to 2400xwhatever. This is the full stack 
> of 10 images.
> Full Stack:  http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p155717848/e387e914
>
> Next, the "best" single image from the series, same dimensions as above.
> Single image:  http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p155717848/e3dba3814
>
> Next a 1-to-1 crop of the stacked image:
> 1024x735 portion of full stack:  
> http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p155717848/e2015d44d
>
> And then a 1311x1017 1-to-1 crop of the single image.
> 1311x1017 portion of single image:  
> http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p155717848/e24f2cbe0
>
> Note that once you've followed the first link, click on the image for a 
> larger view. From there, a right-arrows takes you to the next, left-arow 
> brings you back etc. so you can do comparisons more easily.
> Also note that I applied the same adjustments to the single image that I had 
> previously arrived at for the stacked image.
>
> stan
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Re: PESO: alternate stacking approach

[Bill]

On 21/11/2013 8:20 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:

You've seen Bill's lovely flower; from me you get dead leaves.

Bill did adjustments to his 16 images in Camera Raw and then sent
them to Photoshop to merge layers. I sent my 10 images to Helicon
Focus, then did adjustments on the output merged image. (Using LR4)
Bill used a bellows and 100mm macro. I used the 35mm macro. Bill's
subject had a clear three-dimensional quality to it. My subject
probably has about the same depth but the gradations from near to far
are a bit more subtle.

I used Liveview and focus peaking to do the successive image slices
through the subject and I believe Bill did the same.

So, what you see here is not in any sense a replication of Bill's
work, but rather an independent totally different example of this
focus stacking business.

I uploaded 4 images:

First, a 6016x4000 image downsized to 2400xwhatever. This is the full
stack of 10 images. Full Stack:
http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p155717848/e387e914

Next, the "best" single image from the series, same dimensions as
above. Single image:
http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p155717848/e3dba3814

Next a 1-to-1 crop of the stacked image: 1024x735 portion of full
stack:  http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p155717848/e2015d44d

And then a 1311x1017 1-to-1 crop of the single image. 1311x1017
portion of single image:
http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p155717848/e24f2cbe0

Note that once you've followed the first link, click on the image for
a larger view. From there, a right-arrows takes you to the next,
left-arow brings you back etc. so you can do comparisons more
easily. Also note that I applied the same adjustments to the single
image that I had previously arrived at for the stacked image.

stan



Apparently I have some work to do. That's fabulous.

bill

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Re: PESOs Grace Tonight

[Richard Womer]

Don't look now, Paul, but she's growing up fast!  (How is that possible when 
we're not getting any older?)

Methinks a bit of noise reduction might benefit these.

Cheers,

Rick

On Nov 21, 2013, at 19:45 , Paul Stenquist wrote:

> Got a few grab shots of Grace in the kitchen when she came home tonight. All 
> with the K-3 and DA* 16-50. All at ISO 6400, f4.5, 1/1506h, 50 mm. Some 
> cropping, minimal sharpening. Shot in AWB mode. I have it set to retain some 
> warmth in tungsten light. Looked a bit warm to me, so I set white balance 
> when converting the RAWs.
> 
> It has occurred to me that with less sharpening required, low light photos 
> with the K-3 may be superior to those of the K-5. 
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17607779
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17607780
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17607781
> 
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Re: K-3 just keeps getting better

[Bill]

On 21/11/2013 9:54 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

K-3 holdouts, maybe cover your eyes now.

I picked up my K-3 on Monday morning and I've been carrying it around
since, shooting the usual suspects like my cats, teasels, leaves and
trees, some hip-mounted street. Which is to say, nothing to show yet.
Maybe a cat.

But, each outing I try another feature. This morning's dog walk I
tested focus peaking in live view. _OMFG_. This rocks like a
hurricane. This makes using the 50-135 in MF a dream.


This particular feature is what set me on the focus stacking trail. I've 
always liked doing close up work. Focus peaking, combined with image 
stacking is a beautiful thing.




I'm positively giddy atm. I'm scouting and preparing for a family
portrait shoot on the weekend and I cannot wait to get out there.

Just had to share. :-)



I suspect Pentax is going to get a lot of free publicity out of us. This 
camera just doesn't seem to have any warts.


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Re: Sharpening Radius?

[David Parsons]

Pressing the Alt key is a Lightroom thing.  It works differently in Photoshop.

On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 7:56 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> Some nice theory here but no practical info. Have to buy the book for that I 
> guess. Not that it wouldn't be a good investment.
>
> I can't get that radius adjustment mask to work on my Mac. Any clues? The alt 
> key would seem to e option or command, but neither produces any kind of 
> change in radius adjustment on either Smart Sharpen or Unsharp Mask.
>
> Best,
> Paul
> On Nov 21, 2013, at 3:53 PM, steve harley  wrote:
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>> and here it is in the words of the great Bruce Fraser:
>>
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K-3 just keeps getting better

[Bruce Walker]

K-3 holdouts, maybe cover your eyes now.

I picked up my K-3 on Monday morning and I've been carrying it around
since, shooting the usual suspects like my cats, teasels, leaves and
trees, some hip-mounted street. Which is to say, nothing to show yet.
Maybe a cat.

But, each outing I try another feature. This morning's dog walk I
tested focus peaking in live view. _OMFG_. This rocks like a
hurricane. This makes using the 50-135 in MF a dream.

I'm positively giddy atm. I'm scouting and preparing for a family
portrait shoot on the weekend and I cannot wait to get out there.

Just had to share. :-)

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Re: faceoff

[Bob Sullivan]

And it looks like 2 engines pulling a load of full coal hoppers.
That could be a long walk around that train.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 11:28 AM, CollinB  wrote:
>> Col, just put that into english that I can understand there pal ;-)
>
> Sorry for the lack of clarity.
> The train on the right splits my employer's campus in half.
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Re: Sharpening Radius?

[Paul Stenquist]

Some nice theory here but no practical info. Have to buy the book for that I 
guess. Not that it wouldn't be a good investment. 

I can't get that radius adjustment mask to work on my Mac. Any clues? The alt 
key would seem to e option or command, but neither produces any kind of change 
in radius adjustment on either Smart Sharpen or Unsharp Mask.

Best,
Paul
On Nov 21, 2013, at 3:53 PM, steve harley  wrote:

> and here it is in the words of the great Bruce Fraser:
> 
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Re: SV: OT - Damn Carlsen

[Boris Liberman]

We could have a chess tournament of PDML. The chess by e-mail seems
like a very interesting past time.

On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Alan C  wrote:
> Now that's what I call national support. He only needs 1½ points from the
> last 4 games.
>
> I also ran a club years ago when I taught. We played regularly in a league &
> various tournaments. Then I discovered there are only 24hrs in a day.
>
>
> Alan C
>
> -Original Message- From: Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 3:19 PM
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> Subject: SV: OT - Damn Carlsen
>
>
> Alan,
> It was a comment partly in jest. :-)
>
> As a teacher, I find most of my students preoccupied in the lessons. In the
> teachers' study room there is an eerie atmosphere while the games are on.
> While it has not yet happened where I work, some schools have had to shut
> out certain streaming services from the local firewalls to prevent the
> network from overload. It's quite a buzz this guy has stirred up here in the
> Frostpit.
>
> As a former amateur chess player (no match for Boris, tho), I'm sucked in
> too. :-)
>
> Jostein
>
> -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: Alan C
> Dato: 21. november 2013 12:44
> Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Emne: Re: OT - Damn Carlsen
>
> Relax, Mate!
>
> Alan C
>
> -Original Message- From: Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 1:22 PM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: OT - Damn Carlsen
>
> Not everyone's cup of tea, but I just have to vent.
> The ongoing events in Chennai are distracting me. :-)
> Seriously. :-(
>
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Re: SV: OT - Damn Carlsen

[Alan C]

Now that's what I call national support. He only needs 1½ points from the 
last 4 games.


I also ran a club years ago when I taught. We played regularly in a league & 
various tournaments. Then I discovered there are only 24hrs in a day.


Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne

Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 3:19 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: SV: OT - Damn Carlsen

Alan,
It was a comment partly in jest. :-)

As a teacher, I find most of my students preoccupied in the lessons. In the
teachers' study room there is an eerie atmosphere while the games are on.
While it has not yet happened where I work, some schools have had to shut
out certain streaming services from the local firewalls to prevent the
network from overload. It's quite a buzz this guy has stirred up here in the
Frostpit.

As a former amateur chess player (no match for Boris, tho), I'm sucked in
too. :-)

Jostein

-Opprinnelig melding- 
Fra: Alan C

Dato: 21. november 2013 12:44
Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Emne: Re: OT - Damn Carlsen

Relax, Mate!

Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne

Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 1:22 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: OT - Damn Carlsen

Not everyone's cup of tea, but I just have to vent.
The ongoing events in Chennai are distracting me. :-)
Seriously. :-(

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Re: PESOs Grace Tonight

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Oh, look now … keep looking! Grace is growing up. She will be a young woman in 
the blink of an eye. You don't want to miss the girl. :-)

Amazing how fast it happens. My partner's niece turns eight at the beginning of 
December. Already she is a different girl than the one I photographed at 
Christmas 2012. 

These photos are priceless. Don't stop.

G

On Nov 21, 2013, at 7:01 PM, Richard Womer  wrote:

> Don't look now, Paul, but she's growing up fast!  (How is that possible when 
> we're not getting any older?)
> 
> On Nov 21, 2013, at 19:45 , Paul Stenquist wrote:
> 
>> Got a few grab shots of Grace in the kitchen when she came home tonight. All 
>> with the K-3 and DA* 16-50. All at ISO 6400, f4.5, 1/1506h, 50 mm. Some 
>> cropping, minimal sharpening. Shot in AWB mode. I have it set to retain some 
>> warmth in tungsten light. Looked a bit warm to me, so I set white balance 
>> when converting the RAWs.
>> 
>> It has occurred to me that with less sharpening required, low light photos 
>> with the K-3 may be superior to those of the K-5. 
>> 
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17607779
>> 
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17607780
>> 
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17607781


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Re: PESO - Badwater Basin

[Ken Waller]

Looks like Paul and Ken only looked at the first photo..
which is a shame because the second one is gorgeous


Nope - I looked at all three, but only commented on the one.

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "Ann Sanfedele" 

Subject: Re: PESO - Badwater Basin


Looks like Paul and Ken only looked at the first photo..
which is a shame because the second one is gorgeous

ann

On 11/21/2013 11:58, Ken Waller wrote:

Jostein,

I find the unevenness of the Salt Plain 'horizon' distracting, otherwise
an interesting capture.

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - From: "Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne"

Subject: PESO - Badwater Basin



http://alunfoto.blogspot.no/2013/11/badwater-basin.html

Three images.

The pano is stitched from five or six exposures, and covers an angle
somewhere between 120 and 150 degrees horizontally.

The Devil's Golf Course is perhaps the most uninviting environment
I've ever tried to photograph in. I thought salt crystals would be
brittle, so those in Death Valley were surprisingly hard and
unpleasant to sit down among.

Jostein



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Re: Sharpening Radius?

[steve harley]

on 2013-11-18 16:40 Igor Roshchin wrote

I thought I would ask the gurus of digital processing here on PDML about
this first. When you sharpen images, how do you choose the "Radius"?


the principle is to sharpen the details you actually want to output

these days i usually do it seat of the pants — since i rarely print i simply 
zoom to the screen size i have in mind and work from there by eye; if i later 
export the image at a different size, i redo the sharpening


for print, in my prepress days, we would first resample the image to the 
intended output (at a ppi double the halftone lpi), then it would still be a 
judgment call based on the image; here is a decent article that expands on that 
concept with some specific recommendations for print vs. screen






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Re: PESOs Grace Tonight

[Jack Davis]

It handled the ISO 6400 very well. These don't look too warm on my screen.
Exceptionally cute Grace is becoming a lovely girl.
 
Jack

From: Paul Stenquist 
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List  
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 4:45 PM
Subject: PESOs Grace Tonight


Got a few grab shots of Grace in the kitchen when she came home tonight. All 
with the K-3 and DA* 16-50. All at ISO 6400, f4.5, 1/1506h, 50 mm. Some 
cropping, minimal sharpening. Shot in AWB mode. I have it set to retain some 
warmth in tungsten light. Looked a bit warm to me, so I set white balance when 
converting the RAWs.

It has occurred to me that with less sharpening required, low light photos with 
the K-3 may be superior to those of the K-5. 

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17607779

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17607780

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17607781

Paul
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PENTAX (RICOH) BACK IN SA

[Alan C]

Pentax products have always been available in SA through the efforts of a 
couple of maverick importers but at almost twice the US price. A K3 body 
will set you back the equiv. of $2000. Nevertheless, there are still buyers!


Now, New Teltron, the franchisor of the Foto First labs around the country 
which concentrates on Fuji products, has announced that it is the official 
importer of Pentax (Ricoh) products. It seems they are going to slowly build 
up the range available and have started with a K500 kit promotion at a 
little over $600. A couple of DA lenses & a range of binoculars are also 
available. It will be interesting to see if they can make inroads against 
Fuji, Canon & Nikon which are very strong here.


Alan C 



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Re: PESO: alternate stacking approach

[Stan Halpin]

Thanks Bruce & Bill. I appreciate the comments!

stan

On Nov 21, 2013, at 9:52 PM, Bill wrote:

> On 21/11/2013 8:20 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:
>> ...
>> I uploaded 4 images:
>> 
>> First, a 6016x4000 image downsized to 2400xwhatever. This is the full
>> stack of 10 images. Full Stack:
>> http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p155717848/e387e914
>> 
>> ...
>> 
>> Note that once you've followed the first link, click on the image for
>> a larger view. From there, a right-arrows takes you to the next,
>> left-arow brings you back etc. so you can do comparisons more
>> easily. Also note that I applied the same adjustments to the single
>> image that I had previously arrived at for the stacked image.
>> 
>> stan
>> 
> 
> Apparently I have some work to do. That's fabulous.
> 
> bill
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Re: faceoff

[John]

Would make for some neat photos if they'd resolved it by butting heads 
like bull elk in rut.


On 11/20/2013 11:09 AM, CollinB wrote:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/55001392@N08/10963509956/

Some dispatcher set two trains facing each other onto one track.
Unfortunately our work are is bisected by the near one.





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Re: PESO - Bored Doorman

[John]

I'm also getting some bounces. Message says "Mail server for "pdml.net" 
unreachable for too long"


At least it's not SpamCop blacklisting my email provider.

On 11/20/2013 9:12 PM, Richard Womer wrote:

Doubtlessly.  Or, he's proofreading the manual for the K-3 FF.

On Nov 20, 2013, at 6:23 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:


Maybe that's the manual for his new K-3 and he's just waiting to get
home to try it? :-)

On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 9:31 PM, Richard Womer  wrote:

About half my messages are bouncing, with the notice that the PDML server is 
not responding.

Odd.

Anyway:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17597043

(K-5, DA 16-45)

Comments?

Rick


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Re: OT - Damn Carlsen

[Subash Jeyan]

it's not my cup of tea either though the venue of the matches are just
about 10 minutes' drive from both where i live and from where i work.
Carlsen is pretty popular here too and has generated a lot of positive
press. looks like all that distraction will be worth it... :)

regards, subash


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> Not everyone's cup of tea, but I just have to vent.
> The ongoing events in Chennai are distracting me. :-)
> Seriously. :-(
> 
> Jostein 
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