Re: Leaping Tiger

2014-04-07 Thread Alan C
I've been like that all my life too. I always seem to be eating yet stay 
thin. Fat-free milk may taste better but it's bad for your cholesterol level 
as are other saturated fats.


Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: David Mann

Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 7:54 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: Leaping Tiger

What Alan said :)

I am blessed with the opposite problem.  I got a shock last year when I 
worked out the numbers for my nutrition.  I was eating plenty but it was 
barely enough to keep up with my requirements before any training! 
Considering I weigh nothing to start with I had to add a 4th daily meal to 
avoid wasting away.  Since then I've put on about 3kg of lean weight with a 
little more to come from strength work in the gym.


Because the carb/protein/fat balance was out of whack I was able to take 
great pleasure in switching back to full-fat milk.


Now I'm getting hungry...

Cheers,
Dave

On Apr 8, 2014, at 1:59 am, Alan C  wrote:


It is. Eat less & run more - like train for a marathon!

Alan C

-Original Message- From: Mark C
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 1:59 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: Leaping Tiger

Thanks Ken! After just a couple of weeks mostly outdoors he's lost the
weight he put on over the winter. I only wish it was so easy


On 4/6/2014 11:50 PM, Ken Waller wrote:
any advice about how to get the eyes sharp and the tailed blurred 
(instead of the other way around) would be appreciated.


Yeah - shoot more !

Good looking animal.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - From: "Mark C" 
Subject: Leaping Tiger



Cat Content Caution:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/2014/04/06/leaping-tiger-i?blog=9

My cat and I were hanging in the yard on this first truly warm day so 
far this year and decided to try for some action shots. Didn't quite 
pull it off though - not sure if I just blew it, or the K3 and DA 17-70 
kept back focusing, or if the cat was too fast. He gave me three tries 
though and then light was too dim... Definitely something I will be 
working on in the days ahead...


This is sorta like sports photography - any advice about how to get the 
eyes sharp and the tailed blurred (instead of the other way around) 
would be appreciated.


Mark






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Re: OT - the XP doomsday thing

2014-04-07 Thread mike wilson
Not to prosyletise too much; you really should try Ubuntu.  Download
the installation iso from Ubuntu.com and try it running from a disk
before you install.  Unless there are specific Windows-only apps that
you need, just about everything you want can be run as an equivalent.
Firefox and T'bird can transfer their content to the new versions.
Libre Office can be set to save files as Office versions by default.
Filezilla is a cross-system FTP app.  Plenty of other apps in the
repositories.

As a bonus, Ubuntu seems to use much less of your machine's resources
to run.  It speeded up the start on an old netbook using XP from
"press the button, then go and make a cup of tea properly and I might
be ready by then" (really) to about 40 seconds.

On 08/04/2014, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
> I have a feeling the threats from Windoze that their lack of support
> will result in all of us die-hard Xp users getting hacked to death at
> the stroke of midnight is a bit overstated, or to put it another way,
> B S.  Given one has one's own virus protection and spam-blocker, that is.
>
> Anyone else have more educated opinions than mine?  I SO don't want
> to give up XP...
>
> ann

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Re: Test

2014-04-07 Thread mike wilson
Started 5th April.  I've been telling my spambot (or whatever it is
that governs this at my ISP) that you are not spam but the rule is not
taking, for some reason.

Same for Rick and John Sessoms.  Brian's seems to have been an aberrant message.

On 08/04/2014, Jack Davis  wrote:
> Yeah, I've heard. I have a Geek whom I've contacted. but who is being very
> quiet. He may know something.
> Hopefully!
>
> J
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Paul 
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Cc:
> Sent: Monday, April 7, 2014 3:47 PM
> Subject: Re: Test
>
> Yours and Jack's are both showing up as spam...
>
> -p
>
> On 4/7/2014 4:13 PM, Rick Womer wrote:
>> The weird thing is, I'm no longer seeing my new messages appear on the
>> list (as of this weekend), nor are they appearing in my spam folder.
>>
>> Rick
>>
>> On Apr 7, 2014, at 15:00 , mike wilson wrote:
>>
>>> Spam.  Also, suddenly, Rick and Brian.  No obvious reason.
>>>
>>> On 07/04/2014, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
 Still headed to SPAM here...

 On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
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>
>
>
> Have I fixed it?
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Re: Now I'm testing too...

2014-04-07 Thread mike wilson
This one came through normally.

On 08/04/2014, Brian Walters  wrote:
> In the other thread, Mike mentioned that my posts were suddenly going
> to his spam folder.
>
> As I'm using an email from my own domain, and not Yahoo, this seems odd.
>
> Anyone else getting my posts in their spam folder??
>
> (of course, if they are, you probably wont see this :-(> )

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Re: Leaping Tiger

2014-04-07 Thread David Mann
What Alan said :)

I am blessed with the opposite problem.  I got a shock last year when I worked 
out the numbers for my nutrition.  I was eating plenty but it was barely enough 
to keep up with my requirements before any training!  Considering I weigh 
nothing to start with I had to add a 4th daily meal to avoid wasting away.  
Since then I've put on about 3kg of lean weight with a little more to come from 
strength work in the gym.

Because the carb/protein/fat balance was out of whack I was able to take great 
pleasure in switching back to full-fat milk.

Now I'm getting hungry...

Cheers,
Dave

On Apr 8, 2014, at 1:59 am, Alan C  wrote:

> It is. Eat less & run more - like train for a marathon!
> 
> Alan C
> 
> -Original Message- From: Mark C
> Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 1:59 PM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: Leaping Tiger
> 
> Thanks Ken! After just a couple of weeks mostly outdoors he's lost the
> weight he put on over the winter. I only wish it was so easy
> 
> 
> On 4/6/2014 11:50 PM, Ken Waller wrote:
>>> any advice about how to get the eyes sharp and the tailed blurred (instead 
>>> of the other way around) would be appreciated.
>> 
>> Yeah - shoot more !
>> 
>> Good looking animal.
>> 
>> Kenneth Waller
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Mark C" 
>> Subject: Leaping Tiger
>> 
>> 
>>> Cat Content Caution:
>>> 
>>> http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/2014/04/06/leaping-tiger-i?blog=9
>>> 
>>> My cat and I were hanging in the yard on this first truly warm day so far 
>>> this year and decided to try for some action shots. Didn't quite pull it 
>>> off though - not sure if I just blew it, or the K3 and DA 17-70 kept back 
>>> focusing, or if the cat was too fast. He gave me three tries though and 
>>> then light was too dim... Definitely something I will be working on in the 
>>> days ahead...
>>> 
>>> This is sorta like sports photography - any advice about how to get the 
>>> eyes sharp and the tailed blurred (instead of the other way around) would 
>>> be appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Mark
>> 
>> 
> 
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Re: Heartbleed

2014-04-07 Thread Tim Bray
Summary: A programming error allows bad guys to steal secrets on a
HUGE number of websites; geeks are working late all over the internet
closing the barn doors.   We won’t know for a while how bad the damage
has been.

On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 7:14 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:
> Just out of curiosity for the rest of us ... WTF?
>
>
> On 4/7/2014 8:13 PM, Tim Bray wrote:
>>
>> In the unlikely event that any of you run https-enabled web sites and
>> haven’t visited heartbleed.com today, get thee over there post-haste
>> and find out what version of OpenSSL you’re running and consider
>> replacing your certs, stat.
>>
>> I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a more damaging zero-day.
>>
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Re: Peso: Breezy Spring

2014-04-07 Thread David Mann
I really like that.

Cheers,
Dave

FWIW I just pulled about 20 threads out of my Gmail spam folder and I think 
this was one of them.

On Apr 6, 2014, at 9:52 am, Jack Davis  wrote:

> 
> 
> Found on a local back road.
> 
> K-5, DA16-45
> 
> Comments appreciated
> 
> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=758
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Re: Test

2014-04-07 Thread Jack Davis
Yeah, I've heard. I have a Geek whom I've contacted. but who is being very 
quiet. He may know something.
Hopefully!

J




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Cc: 
Sent: Monday, April 7, 2014 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: Test

Yours and Jack's are both showing up as spam...

-p

On 4/7/2014 4:13 PM, Rick Womer wrote:
> The weird thing is, I'm no longer seeing my new messages appear on the list 
> (as of this weekend), nor are they appearing in my spam folder.
>
> Rick
>
> On Apr 7, 2014, at 15:00 , mike wilson wrote:
>
>> Spam.  Also, suddenly, Rick and Brian.  No obvious reason.
>>
>> On 07/04/2014, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
>>> Still headed to SPAM here...
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:




 Have I fixed it?
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Re: OT - the XP doomsday thing

2014-04-07 Thread Alan C
Yes, John, I totally agree. I upgraded some time ago & have not looked back. 
Perhaps MS should offer free upgrades?


Alan C

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Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 6:25 AM
To: PDML@pdml.net
Subject: Re: OT - the XP doomsday thing

Just to add my 2¢: Windows XP is an incredibly old operating system by
today's standards. Yeah, Vista and Windows 8 were/are pretty awful,
but Windows 7 is great. You really don't need to fear upgrading to 7,
especially since you can install the XP virtual machine and run all
the old software you have for XP
(http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/install-and-use-windows-xp-mode-in-windows-7).

7 is more secure and more powerful. XP is ancient and soon to be very
vulnerable. It's time to upgrade.

And hey, if you think your PCs are too old to run 7, modern desktops
are getting super cheap these days. New and refurb PCs of various
makes, models and capabilities show up on deal sites like Woot.com all
the time, and even made-to-order systems from HP and the like aren't
too costly anymore. They even brought back 7 because of the
unpopularity of 8.

On the other hand, you could go the route I took and build your own
system. My PC is three years old now, but when I built it, it was
comparable to high-end gaming systems yet cost about a third as much.
Systems with more reasonable specs are even cheaper.

Windows 7 is really the way to go. I've heard Microsoft is going to
bring back the Start menu for Windows 9, but that's still at least a
year off. If you don't want to be stuck with an ancient, unsupported
OS, look into upgrading while Windows 7 is still around.

John

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Re: OT - the XP doomsday thing

2014-04-07 Thread John Celio
Just to add my 2¢: Windows XP is an incredibly old operating system by
today's standards. Yeah, Vista and Windows 8 were/are pretty awful,
but Windows 7 is great. You really don't need to fear upgrading to 7,
especially since you can install the XP virtual machine and run all
the old software you have for XP
(http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/install-and-use-windows-xp-mode-in-windows-7).

7 is more secure and more powerful. XP is ancient and soon to be very
vulnerable. It's time to upgrade.

And hey, if you think your PCs are too old to run 7, modern desktops
are getting super cheap these days. New and refurb PCs of various
makes, models and capabilities show up on deal sites like Woot.com all
the time, and even made-to-order systems from HP and the like aren't
too costly anymore. They even brought back 7 because of the
unpopularity of 8.

On the other hand, you could go the route I took and build your own
system. My PC is three years old now, but when I built it, it was
comparable to high-end gaming systems yet cost about a third as much.
Systems with more reasonable specs are even cheaper.

Windows 7 is really the way to go. I've heard Microsoft is going to
bring back the Start menu for Windows 9, but that's still at least a
year off. If you don't want to be stuck with an ancient, unsupported
OS, look into upgrading while Windows 7 is still around.

John

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Re: Another casual lens comparison K55/1.8 v F50/1.7

2014-04-07 Thread steve harley

on 2014-04-06 6:40 Collin Brendemuehl wrote

I took two framings this morning.


interesting study

> [regarding bokeh]

The one extra stop with the K lens accounts for this.  Still even if one
adds one stop with the F50/1.7 to create an equivalent result, the K
performed quite nicely.


f/8 to f/9 is more like a third of a stop, but the difference in bokeh seems 
subjectively like at least a couple of stops, so i suspect (as it seems you do) 
that one of the lenses' apertures is not functioning to spec




When it comes to rendering the soft edges with the K are much smoother.
The F50/1.7's edges are much softer, almost having that double-image
appearance.
I think the K wins in this regard.


that was hard for me to see on your shots, and i wonder if it is down to the 
uncertain aperture




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Re: PESO - The King of Parkdale

2014-04-07 Thread steve harley

on 2014-04-07 20:42 knarf wrote

Well, this weekend finally got a few shots. Here's Toronto bike messenger 
Andrew and his trackbike:

http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2014/04/the-king-of-parkdale.html?m=1


nice abstract geometry hidden in a human interest photo


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Re: OT - the XP doomsday thing

2014-04-07 Thread J.C. O'Connell
FWIW, early 2013 I picked up a brand new HP desktop less a monitor for 
$400 with decent specs and win7 pre installed.
my old machine with XP was about 6 years old and kicked the bucket ( bad 
motherboard ).



On 4/7/2014 11:27 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote:

I should have said update your hardware and OS to win7


On 4/7/2014 11:17 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

The hardware I'm running XP on might just barely meet the minimums for
Win7, but it wouldn't run worth a damn.

On 4/7/2014 7:32 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote:

update to win7, its pretty painless and win7 works pretty well.

On 4/7/2014 7:10 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

I have a feeling the threats from Windoze that their lack of support
will result in all of us die-hard Xp users getting hacked to death at
the stroke of midnight is a bit overstated, or to put it another way,
B S.  Given one has one's own virus protection and spam-blocker, 
that is.


Anyone else have more educated opinions than mine?  I SO don't want
to give up XP...

ann












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Re: OT - the XP doomsday thing

2014-04-07 Thread Ann Sanfedele

I just don't see why I should have to do that at all .. and I haven't
got any money to do it with anyway.

What MARk said about the firewall - I'll check, but I'm pretty sure that 
is what I have..


ann

On 4/7/2014 23:27, J.C. O'Connell wrote:

I should have said update your hardware and OS to win7


On 4/7/2014 11:17 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

The hardware I'm running XP on might just barely meet the minimums for
Win7, but it wouldn't run worth a damn.

On 4/7/2014 7:32 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote:

update to win7, its pretty painless and win7 works pretty well.

On 4/7/2014 7:10 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

I have a feeling the threats from Windoze that their lack of support
will result in all of us die-hard Xp users getting hacked to death at
the stroke of midnight is a bit overstated, or to put it another way,
B S.  Given one has one's own virus protection and spam-blocker,
that is.

Anyone else have more educated opinions than mine?  I SO don't want
to give up XP...

ann











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Re: Leaping Tiger

2014-04-07 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Pretty good action shots there - just keeping moving cat in frame is an 
accomplishment - but I like the last one the best, without the action, 
because of the great expression.


looking forward to more

meow,
ann's cat ashley

On 4/7/2014 20:40, Mark C wrote:

Thanks, Dave, and to everyone else who had a look. I think Frank said
something a few weeks ago about tabby's being the wildest cats (or
something like that)

On 4/7/2014 11:23 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

Nice, looks likwe our Norman

Dave

On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 8:40 PM, Mark C  wrote:

Cat Content Caution:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/2014/04/06/leaping-tiger-i?blog=9


My cat and I were hanging in the yard on this first truly warm day so
far
this year and decided to try for some action shots. Didn't quite pull
it off
though - not sure if I just blew it, or the K3 and DA 17-70 kept back
focusing, or if the cat was too fast. He gave me three tries though
and then
light was too dim... Definitely something I will be working on in the
days
ahead...

This is sorta like sports photography - any advice about how to get
the eyes
sharp and the tailed blurred (instead of the other way around) would be
appreciated.

Mark

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Re: OT - the XP doomsday thing

2014-04-07 Thread J.C. O'Connell

I should have said update your hardware and OS to win7


On 4/7/2014 11:17 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

The hardware I'm running XP on might just barely meet the minimums for
Win7, but it wouldn't run worth a damn.

On 4/7/2014 7:32 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote:

update to win7, its pretty painless and win7 works pretty well.

On 4/7/2014 7:10 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

I have a feeling the threats from Windoze that their lack of support
will result in all of us die-hard Xp users getting hacked to death at
the stroke of midnight is a bit overstated, or to put it another way,
B S.  Given one has one's own virus protection and spam-blocker, 
that is.


Anyone else have more educated opinions than mine?  I SO don't want
to give up XP...

ann









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Re: OT - the XP doomsday thing

2014-04-07 Thread Ann Sanfedele

I have Trend Micro  due to renew in about 50 days..
Pretty sure I am connected through a hardware firewall.

ann

On 4/7/2014 20:10, Mark Roberts wrote:

Ann Sanfedele wrote:


I have a feeling the threats from Windoze that their lack of support
will result in all of us die-hard Xp users getting hacked to death at
the stroke of midnight is a bit overstated, or to put it another way,
B S.  Given one has one's own virus protection and spam-blocker, that is.

Anyone else have more educated opinions than mine?  I SO don't want
to give up XP...


Keep an updated anti-virus and software firewall (ZoneAlarm, for
example) and make sure you're connected through a *hardware* firewall
for your personal broadband connection. A cheap router (even if you
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Re: OT - the XP doomsday thing

2014-04-07 Thread John Sessoms

The hardware I'm running XP on might just barely meet the minimums for
Win7, but it wouldn't run worth a damn.

On 4/7/2014 7:32 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote:

update to win7, its pretty painless and win7 works pretty well.

On 4/7/2014 7:10 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

I have a feeling the threats from Windoze that their lack of support
will result in all of us die-hard Xp users getting hacked to death at
the stroke of midnight is a bit overstated, or to put it another way,
B S.  Given one has one's own virus protection and spam-blocker, that is.

Anyone else have more educated opinions than mine?  I SO don't want
to give up XP...

ann






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Re: Now I'm testing too...

2014-04-07 Thread Jack Davis


I got this, Brian. My geek told me today that Yahoo wants me to change both my 
email address and he suggests I switch carriers.
Told him I'm giving it a few days as not a lot happening at the moment.

Jack





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Subject: Now I'm testing too...


In the other thread, Mike mentioned that my posts were suddenly going  
to his spam folder.

As I'm using an email from my own domain, and not Yahoo, this seems odd.

Anyone else getting my posts in their spam folder??

(of course, if they are, you probably wont see this :-(> )


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Re: OT - the XP doomsday thing

2014-04-07 Thread John Sessoms

I'll put in a word here for having a good, strong HOSTS file. That'll
help keep you away from most SPAM, Malware & phishing sites to begin with.

On 4/7/2014 8:45 PM, Gerrit Visser wrote:

All excellent advice except that today's threats are mostly coming via
phishing. If you watch what you download/install and sites that you visit
you will be better off.
OTOH, with XP not getting more updates it will become a target again. 400
million potential victims is hard to pass up.

Gerrit

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Ann Sanfedele wrote:


I have a feeling the threats from Windoze that their lack of support
will result in all of us die-hard Xp users getting hacked to death at
the stroke of midnight is a bit overstated, or to put it another way, B
S.  Given one has one's own virus protection and spam-blocker, that is.

Anyone else have more educated opinions than mine?  I SO don't want to
give up XP...


Keep an updated anti-virus and software firewall (ZoneAlarm, for
example) and make sure you're connected through a *hardware* firewall for
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Re: OT - the XP doomsday thing

2014-04-07 Thread John Sessoms

On 4/7/2014 7:19 PM, Bill wrote:

On 07/04/2014 5:10 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

I have a feeling the threats from Windoze that their lack of support
will result in all of us die-hard Xp users getting hacked to death at
the stroke of midnight is a bit overstated, or to put it another way,
B S.  Given one has one's own virus protection and spam-blocker, that is.

Anyone else have more educated opinions than mine?  I SO don't want
to give up XP...


I recall all the computers were supposed to crash once before. That
turned out to be rather over blown too.

Doom saying is easy.
Owning Pentax hardens one to it's effects.

bill


That time before didn't happen because a lot of people put a whole bunch
of work into fixing the problem *BEFORE* it could come crashing down.

Plus, the news media got all hysterical about what was basically a
potential accounting & billing error nightmare.

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Re: OT - the XP doomsday thing

2014-04-07 Thread John Sessoms

On 4/7/2014 7:10 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

I have a feeling the threats from Windoze that their lack of support
will result in all of us die-hard Xp users getting hacked to death at
the stroke of midnight is a bit overstated, or to put it another way,
B S.  Given one has one's own virus protection and spam-blocker, that is.

Anyone else have more educated opinions than mine?  I SO don't want
to give up XP...

ann



I have three computers "running" XP.

I'm not sure what my upgrade options might be. I doubt any of them could 
handle Windoze 7. I wouldn't put Vista or Windoze 8 on any of them, but 
one or more of them might be able to run some flavor of Linux.


In the meantime, I'm looking at the idea of a cheap entry level Windoze 
7 machine to take over as my "goof off on the internet" computer & 
upgrade it by cannibalizing the hard-drives from this one.


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RE: OT - the XP doomsday thing

2014-04-07 Thread John Coyle
I still have one PC running XP (SP3) and have it behind a router firewall and 
anti-virus protection.
Only need it to maintain absolute compatibility with some older systems I've 
written, where clients
are still running them, so I won't upgrade it unless it fails (which is more 
likely to happen with
the hardware, which is also pretty old!)
Checked about upgrading it to Win7, too many things needed new drivers or 
software patches for me to
try it right now.

HTH

John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia



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Subject: OT - the XP doomsday thing

I have a feeling the threats from Windoze that their lack of support will 
result in all of us
die-hard Xp users getting hacked to death at the stroke of midnight is a bit 
overstated, or to put
it another way, B S.  Given one has one's own virus protection and 
spam-blocker, that is.

Anyone else have more educated opinions than mine?  I SO don't want to give up 
XP...

ann

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PESO - The King of Parkdale

2014-04-07 Thread knarf
And we're back...

This night shift is making it difficult to post and spend time on the list, 
especially since I've been biking these past several weeks. My bus rides tended 
to be my list time. 

Also I've been in a real photographic dry spell of late. Basically nothing 
since the Ice Race in late February.

Well, this weekend finally got a few shots. Here's Toronto bike messenger 
Andrew and his trackbike:

http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2014/04/the-king-of-parkdale.html?m=1

Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.

Cheers,
frank


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Re: Now I'm testing too...

2014-04-07 Thread Stan Halpin
None of the emails from PDML have been going to my Spam/Junk folder. As far as 
I can tell, everything is coming through on Apple Mail.

stan

On Apr 7, 2014, at 10:16 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:

> Came straight through on both Roadrunner & Yahoo.
> 
> On 4/7/2014 8:03 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
>> In the other thread, Mike mentioned that my posts were suddenly going to
>> his spam folder.
>> 
>> As I'm using an email from my own domain, and not Yahoo, this seems odd.
>> 
>> Anyone else getting my posts in their spam folder??
>> 
>> (of course, if they are, you probably wont see this :-(> )
>> 
>> 
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Re: Now I'm testing too...

2014-04-07 Thread John Sessoms

Came straight through on both Roadrunner & Yahoo.

On 4/7/2014 8:03 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

In the other thread, Mike mentioned that my posts were suddenly going to
his spam folder.

As I'm using an email from my own domain, and not Yahoo, this seems odd.

Anyone else getting my posts in their spam folder??

(of course, if they are, you probably wont see this :-(> )




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Re: Heartbleed

2014-04-07 Thread John Sessoms

Just out of curiosity for the rest of us ... WTF?

On 4/7/2014 8:13 PM, Tim Bray wrote:

In the unlikely event that any of you run https-enabled web sites and
haven’t visited heartbleed.com today, get thee over there post-haste
and find out what version of OpenSSL you’re running and consider
replacing your certs, stat.

I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a more damaging zero-day.



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PESO - New Haven station

2014-04-07 Thread Rick Womer
A slice-of-life grab in the New Haven railroad station:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17719447&size=lg

or

http://gallery.photo.net/photo/17719447-lg.jpg

(K-5, DA 16-45)

When I was growing up in the 60's, the station was a sealed-off world of fallen 
plaster, leaks, and winos. One bought tickets and boarded trains through 
sheet-metal temporary buildings.  It is great to see the place restored.

Comments?

Rick


P.S. Yet one more way that Yahoo sucks hard-boiled eggs: My contacts list has 
been wiped out.


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RE: OT - the XP doomsday thing

2014-04-07 Thread Gerrit Visser
All excellent advice except that today's threats are mostly coming via
phishing. If you watch what you download/install and sites that you visit
you will be better off.
OTOH, with XP not getting more updates it will become a target again. 400
million potential victims is hard to pass up.

Gerrit

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From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts
Sent: Monday, April 7, 2014 8:10 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: OT - the XP doomsday thing

Ann Sanfedele wrote:

>I have a feeling the threats from Windoze that their lack of support 
>will result in all of us die-hard Xp users getting hacked to death at 
>the stroke of midnight is a bit overstated, or to put it another way, B 
>S.  Given one has one's own virus protection and spam-blocker, that is.
>
>Anyone else have more educated opinions than mine?  I SO don't want to 
>give up XP...

Keep an updated anti-virus and software firewall (ZoneAlarm, for
example) and make sure you're connected through a *hardware* firewall for
your personal broadband connection. A cheap router (even if you are only
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Re: Leaping Tiger

2014-04-07 Thread Mark C
Thanks, Dave, and to everyone else who had a look. I think Frank said 
something a few weeks ago about tabby's being the wildest cats (or 
something like that)


On 4/7/2014 11:23 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

Nice, looks likwe our Norman

Dave

On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 8:40 PM, Mark C  wrote:

Cat Content Caution:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/2014/04/06/leaping-tiger-i?blog=9

My cat and I were hanging in the yard on this first truly warm day so far
this year and decided to try for some action shots. Didn't quite pull it off
though - not sure if I just blew it, or the K3 and DA 17-70 kept back
focusing, or if the cat was too fast. He gave me three tries though and then
light was too dim... Definitely something I will be working on in the days
ahead...

This is sorta like sports photography - any advice about how to get the eyes
sharp and the tailed blurred (instead of the other way around) would be
appreciated.

Mark

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Re: Test

2014-04-07 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
This still went to my SPAM folder on GMail

Dan Matyola
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On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
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>
>
>
> Have I fixed it?
>
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Re: Now I'm testing too...

2014-04-07 Thread steve harley

on 2014-04-07 18:03 Brian Walters wrote

Anyone else getting my posts in their spam folder??


i haven't gotten any PDML emails in my spam folder lately; my email service is 
Fastmail


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Re: Test

2014-04-07 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
There is nothing wrong -- or even different -- about GMail in my experience.

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On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 5:17 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:
> I sent that reply from my Roadrunner account. I was going to send a
> response to *this* message using Yahoo, so you could see if it came
> through as SPAM (I'm expecting it will), but it appears that Yahoo's
> smtp server is hosed up again.
>
> I'm back to getting messages that I need to enter my password for
> Yahoo's smtp server. When I enter the password, the smtp server doesn't
> recognize it.
>
> From my end, it looks like both Yahoo and gmail are FUBAR.
>
>
> On 4/7/2014 4:59 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
>>
>> John,
>> You're out of the SPAM penalty box.
>> Jack,
>> You're still going to SPAM.
>> Regards,  Bob S.
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 1:31 PM, John Sessoms 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> It came through on my RoadRunner email, but NOT on my Yahoo email.
>>>
>>> I signed into Yahoo webmail, and it's not in the inbox there, nor in the
>>> SPAM folder.
>>>
>>> On 4/7/2014 8:57 AM, Jack Davis wrote:



 Can you see me now?

 Jack


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Heartbleed

2014-04-07 Thread Tim Bray
In the unlikely event that any of you run https-enabled web sites and
haven’t visited heartbleed.com today, get thee over there post-haste
and find out what version of OpenSSL you’re running and consider
replacing your certs, stat.

I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a more damaging zero-day.

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Re: Now I'm testing too...

2014-04-07 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I, seeing your posts in my regular inbox, but Jack Davis' posts are
going to my SPAM folder.

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On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 8:03 PM, Brian Walters  wrote:
> In the other thread, Mike mentioned that my posts were suddenly going to his
> spam folder.
>
> As I'm using an email from my own domain, and not Yahoo, this seems odd.
>
> Anyone else getting my posts in their spam folder??
>
> (of course, if they are, you probably wont see this :-(> )
>
>
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>
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> ++
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Re: OT - the XP doomsday thing

2014-04-07 Thread Mark Roberts
Ann Sanfedele wrote:

>I have a feeling the threats from Windoze that their lack of support
>will result in all of us die-hard Xp users getting hacked to death at
>the stroke of midnight is a bit overstated, or to put it another way,
>B S.  Given one has one's own virus protection and spam-blocker, that is.
>
>Anyone else have more educated opinions than mine?  I SO don't want
>to give up XP...

Keep an updated anti-virus and software firewall (ZoneAlarm, for
example) and make sure you're connected through a *hardware* firewall
for your personal broadband connection. A cheap router (even if you
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Re: On email from Yahoo being classified as spam

2014-04-07 Thread steve harley

on 2014-04-07 15:58 Tim Bray wrote

Wow, there’s just been an outburst of shouting in the IETF (Internet
Engineering Task Force, the geeks who keep this whole thang running)
about this, so it’s not just you, and I imagine there are some people
having a well-deserved Really Bad Day over at Yahoo just now.


as a minor email wizard (i think there are major ones on this list) i marvel 
yet again at how some of those bright young things that run the internet these 
days think they need to reinvent something they don't really understand - email


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Now I'm testing too...

2014-04-07 Thread Brian Walters
In the other thread, Mike mentioned that my posts were suddenly going  
to his spam folder.


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Anyone else getting my posts in their spam folder??

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Re: OT - the XP doomsday thing

2014-04-07 Thread J.C. O'Connell

update to win7, its pretty painless and win7 works pretty well.

On 4/7/2014 7:10 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

I have a feeling the threats from Windoze that their lack of support
will result in all of us die-hard Xp users getting hacked to death at
the stroke of midnight is a bit overstated, or to put it another way,
B S.  Given one has one's own virus protection and spam-blocker, that is.

Anyone else have more educated opinions than mine?  I SO don't want
to give up XP...

ann




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Re: OT - the XP doomsday thing

2014-04-07 Thread Bill

On 07/04/2014 5:10 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

I have a feeling the threats from Windoze that their lack of support
will result in all of us die-hard Xp users getting hacked to death at
the stroke of midnight is a bit overstated, or to put it another way,
B S.  Given one has one's own virus protection and spam-blocker, that is.

Anyone else have more educated opinions than mine?  I SO don't want
to give up XP...


I recall all the computers were supposed to crash once before. That 
turned out to be rather over blown too.


Doom saying is easy.
Owning Pentax hardens one to it's effects.

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Re: On email from Yahoo being classified as spam

2014-04-07 Thread Bruce Walker
Maybe someone could give 'em a few whacks about the damage they've
done to Flickr while they are at it. I don't think it's my imagination
that daily Flickr use is down since their new UI phase-in.


On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 5:58 PM, Tim Bray  wrote:
> Wow, there’s just been an outburst of shouting in the IETF (Internet
> Engineering Task Force, the geeks who keep this whole thang running)
> about this, so it’s not just you, and I imagine there are some people
> having a well-deserved Really Bad Day over at Yahoo just now.
>
> On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 2:30 PM, Matthew Hunt  wrote:
>> This problem is affecting most of my mailing lists, and it appears to
>> be due to a deliberate change by Yahoo:
>>
>> https://wordtothewise.com/2014/04/brief-dmarc-primer/
>> https://wordtothewise.com/2014/04/example-bounces-due-yahoo-preject/
>>
>> "Endusers can do a couple things . For one-to-one mail make sure
>> you're using the Yahoo outgoing mail servers and that should fix the
>> problem without you having to really make any change. For email to
>> mailing lists you'll need to switch to an email address at another
>> domain for that mailing list."
>>
>> As I understand it: Yahoo is telling recipient email services not to
>> accept mail from Yahoo email addresses that doesn't come from Yahoo's
>> servers. Since email on this mailing list, or other mailing lists,
>> comes from non-Yahoo servers, Gmail and other recipients reject the
>> mail, or mark it as spam, in accordance with Yahoo's request.
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OT - the XP doomsday thing

2014-04-07 Thread Ann Sanfedele

I have a feeling the threats from Windoze that their lack of support
will result in all of us die-hard Xp users getting hacked to death at
the stroke of midnight is a bit overstated, or to put it another way,
B S.  Given one has one's own virus protection and spam-blocker, that is.

Anyone else have more educated opinions than mine?  I SO don't want
to give up XP...

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Re: Test

2014-04-07 Thread Paul

Yours and Jack's are both showing up as spam...

-p

On 4/7/2014 4:13 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

The weird thing is, I'm no longer seeing my new messages appear on the list (as 
of this weekend), nor are they appearing in my spam folder.

Rick

On Apr 7, 2014, at 15:00 , mike wilson wrote:


Spam.  Also, suddenly, Rick and Brian.  No obvious reason.

On 07/04/2014, Bob Sullivan  wrote:

Still headed to SPAM here...

On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:





Have I fixed it?


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Re: On email from Yahoo being classified as spam

2014-04-07 Thread John Sessoms

On 4/7/2014 5:58 PM, Tim Bray wrote:

Wow, there’s just been an outburst of shouting in the IETF (Internet
Engineering Task Force, the geeks who keep this whole thang running)
about this, so it’s not just you, and I imagine there are some people
having a well-deserved Really Bad Day over at Yahoo just now.



I hope I can make their "Really Bad Day" a whole lot worse!

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Re: OT - another variant on images incorporating album covers

2014-04-07 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting "Daniel J. Matyola" :


"Sorry - we haven't been able to serve the page you asked for"



You need to put as 's' on the end of the link.


Cheers

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On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 12:50 PM, John Francis  wrote:


From today's Guardian:

  
http://www.theguardian.com/cities/gallery/2014/apr/07/classic-album-covers-in-google-street-view-in-picture



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Re: On email from Yahoo being classified as spam

2014-04-07 Thread Tim Bray
Wow, there’s just been an outburst of shouting in the IETF (Internet
Engineering Task Force, the geeks who keep this whole thang running)
about this, so it’s not just you, and I imagine there are some people
having a well-deserved Really Bad Day over at Yahoo just now.

On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 2:30 PM, Matthew Hunt  wrote:
> This problem is affecting most of my mailing lists, and it appears to
> be due to a deliberate change by Yahoo:
>
> https://wordtothewise.com/2014/04/brief-dmarc-primer/
> https://wordtothewise.com/2014/04/example-bounces-due-yahoo-preject/
>
> "Endusers can do a couple things . For one-to-one mail make sure
> you're using the Yahoo outgoing mail servers and that should fix the
> problem without you having to really make any change. For email to
> mailing lists you'll need to switch to an email address at another
> domain for that mailing list."
>
> As I understand it: Yahoo is telling recipient email services not to
> accept mail from Yahoo email addresses that doesn't come from Yahoo's
> servers. Since email on this mailing list, or other mailing lists,
> comes from non-Yahoo servers, Gmail and other recipients reject the
> mail, or mark it as spam, in accordance with Yahoo's request.
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Re: On email from Yahoo being classified as spam

2014-04-07 Thread John Sessoms

On 4/7/2014 5:30 PM, Matthew Hunt wrote:

This problem is affecting most of my mailing lists, and it appears to
be due to a deliberate change by Yahoo:

https://wordtothewise.com/2014/04/brief-dmarc-primer/
https://wordtothewise.com/2014/04/example-bounces-due-yahoo-preject/

"Endusers can do a couple things . For one-to-one mail make sure
you're using the Yahoo outgoing mail servers and that should fix the
problem without you having to really make any change. For email to
mailing lists you'll need to switch to an email address at another
domain for that mailing list."

As I understand it: Yahoo is telling recipient email services not to
accept mail from Yahoo email addresses that doesn't come from Yahoo's
servers. Since email on this mailing list, or other mailing lists,
comes from non-Yahoo servers, Gmail and other recipients reject the
mail, or mark it as spam, in accordance with Yahoo's request.



That tears it.

The only reason I have a paid Yahoo account is so I can use Yahoo's smtp
server for PDML. Now Yahoo is telling the other providers not to accept
PDML mailings posted from my Yahoo account?

FUCK 'EM!

Time to take a serious look at domain hosting I guess. I've got domains
I registered several years ago ... thought at one time I was going to
WORK at photography & I'd need a domain name for my website.

Haven't pursued the idea since I had to retire, but I have continued to
renew the domain registrations.

I'm open to suggestions. I'd prefer a host somewhere that will allow me
to tell them that PDML is *NOT* SPAM.

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On email from Yahoo being classified as spam

2014-04-07 Thread Matthew Hunt
This problem is affecting most of my mailing lists, and it appears to
be due to a deliberate change by Yahoo:

https://wordtothewise.com/2014/04/brief-dmarc-primer/
https://wordtothewise.com/2014/04/example-bounces-due-yahoo-preject/

"Endusers can do a couple things . For one-to-one mail make sure
you're using the Yahoo outgoing mail servers and that should fix the
problem without you having to really make any change. For email to
mailing lists you'll need to switch to an email address at another
domain for that mailing list."

As I understand it: Yahoo is telling recipient email services not to
accept mail from Yahoo email addresses that doesn't come from Yahoo's
servers. Since email on this mailing list, or other mailing lists,
comes from non-Yahoo servers, Gmail and other recipients reject the
mail, or mark it as spam, in accordance with Yahoo's request.

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Re: Test

2014-04-07 Thread John Sessoms

I sent that reply from my Roadrunner account. I was going to send a
response to *this* message using Yahoo, so you could see if it came
through as SPAM (I'm expecting it will), but it appears that Yahoo's
smtp server is hosed up again.

I'm back to getting messages that I need to enter my password for
Yahoo's smtp server. When I enter the password, the smtp server doesn't
recognize it.

From my end, it looks like both Yahoo and gmail are FUBAR.

On 4/7/2014 4:59 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

John,
You're out of the SPAM penalty box.
Jack,
You're still going to SPAM.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 1:31 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:

It came through on my RoadRunner email, but NOT on my Yahoo email.

I signed into Yahoo webmail, and it's not in the inbox there, nor in the
SPAM folder.

On 4/7/2014 8:57 AM, Jack Davis wrote:



Can you see me now?

Jack





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Re: Test

2014-04-07 Thread Rick Womer
The weird thing is, I'm no longer seeing my new messages appear on the list (as 
of this weekend), nor are they appearing in my spam folder.

Rick

On Apr 7, 2014, at 15:00 , mike wilson wrote:

> Spam.  Also, suddenly, Rick and Brian.  No obvious reason.
> 
> On 07/04/2014, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
>> Still headed to SPAM here...
>> 
>> On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Have I fixed it?
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Re: test

2014-04-07 Thread John Sessoms
All four of your most recent tests came through on Roadrunner, but not 
on Yahoo.


On 4/7/2014 4:58 PM, Jack Davis wrote:






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Re: Test

2014-04-07 Thread John Sessoms

Seeing it from Roadrunner, but not from Yahoo.

On 4/7/2014 3:18 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

nother Test




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Re: Test

2014-04-07 Thread John Sessoms

Gmail might be hosed up.

On 4/7/2014 3:00 PM, mike wilson wrote:

Spam.  Also, suddenly, Rick and Brian.  No obvious reason.

On 07/04/2014, Bob Sullivan  wrote:

Still headed to SPAM here...

On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:





Have I fixed it?




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Re: Test

2014-04-07 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, Bob.

J




- Original Message -
From: Bob Sullivan 
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Cc: 
Sent: Monday, April 7, 2014 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: Test

John,
You're out of the SPAM penalty box.
Jack,
You're still going to SPAM.
Regards,  Bob S.

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> It came through on my RoadRunner email, but NOT on my Yahoo email.
>
> I signed into Yahoo webmail, and it's not in the inbox there, nor in the
> SPAM folder.
>
> On 4/7/2014 8:57 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
>>
>>
>> Can you see me now?
>>
>> Jack
>>
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Re: Test

2014-04-07 Thread Bob Sullivan
John,
You're out of the SPAM penalty box.
Jack,
You're still going to SPAM.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 1:31 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:
> It came through on my RoadRunner email, but NOT on my Yahoo email.
>
> I signed into Yahoo webmail, and it's not in the inbox there, nor in the
> SPAM folder.
>
> On 4/7/2014 8:57 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
>>
>>
>> Can you see me now?
>>
>> Jack
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test

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Test

2014-04-07 Thread Jack Davis


still another test


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Re: Interesting photographs from USSR from 1940-70s

2014-04-07 Thread Igor Roshchin

Incidentally, I'd never noticed that song (i.e. had not heard or had 
not paid attention to the lyrics) of Sting until your reference.
Thanks!

... It's interesting to read _today_ what the critic (Jim White, Q magazine) 
wrote some 20 years ago about this song on the "Fields of Gold" (1994) album:
http://sting.com/discography/index/ablum/albumId/12/tagName/Albums
"there's the political commentary rendered obsolete by the historical
turn of events ('Russians')."
I hope that statement remains valid today, 20 years later, and beyond.

Igor


Mon Apr 7 13:59:55 EDT 2014
John Sessoms wrote:

> The set reminds me of one of my favorite Sting songs:
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fq9FZ8e6d1Q


> The page with Google-Translated captions:
> http://goo.gl/T1bvyo


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Re: GESO: Stockholm

2014-04-07 Thread Stan Halpin
Thanks Jack Bob Bruce Tim Dan Ken and others who have taken a look. Glad you 
liked the Blue Light Special Bruce!
Tim, Stockholm is a fascinating city with interesting history and nice vistas. 
But don't take my photos as representative - much of it is block after block of 
fairly undistinguished 5-story buildings shoulder to shoulder. But here are 
nice parks and pedestrian streets, and the Old Town (Gamla Stan) where I took 
most of these shots, with narrow winding alleys and centuries-old buildings, is 
a real gem.

Our meeting had a reception this evening in the City Hall. We gathered 
initially in the Blue Room where Nobel Laureates have a banquet, then had our 
reception in the Gold Room where they adjourn for dancing after dinner. Hosted 
by the Deputy Chair of the City Council. I thought we should have rated the 
real Chairman, but oh well. Tomorrow night is a dinner and private tour of the 
Vassa Museum. It's nice to be working again, temporarily, and getting the 
ancillary perks. 

stan

On Apr 6, 2014, at 8:02 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:

> Enjoyed the images Stan.
> 
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 
> Subject: Re: GESO: Stockholm
> 
> 
>> Interesting little gallery, all well done, Stan
>> 
>> Dan Matyola
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>> 
>> 
>> On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>>> Enjoyed the visit myself. Nice set.
>>> 
>>> Jack
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Stan Halpin 
>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>>> Cc:
>>> Sent: Sunday, April 6, 2014 10:23 AM
>>> Subject: GESO: Stockholm
>>> 
>>> Arrived yesterday. Chilly spring weather. A few hours walkabout yesterday 
>>> afternoon and some more today.
>>> My third visit here - its an interesting large city with some well 
>>> preserved older sections.
>>> Quite European in character, with much influence from Parisian architects. 
>>> But built on many islands, so waterfront shots are an added attraction.
>>> 
>>> I'll be working the next few days, but will have a chance to go back out 
>>> later this week.
>>> 
>>> Here is a sample of what I've seen so far...
>>> 
>>> http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p46030916
>>> 
>>> stan
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Test

2014-04-07 Thread Jack Davis
nother Test


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Re: OT - another variant on images incorporating album covers

2014-04-07 Thread mike wilson
On 07/04/2014, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> Hmm, not such a good idea, creative
> person.

More like "Not a very good theft, uncreative plonker."

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Re: Test

2014-04-07 Thread mike wilson
Spam.  Also, suddenly, Rick and Brian.  No obvious reason.

On 07/04/2014, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
> Still headed to SPAM here...
>
> On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Have I fixed it?

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Re: OT - another variant on images incorporating album covers

2014-04-07 Thread Bob W-PDML
On 7 Apr 2014, at 17:51, "John Francis"  wrote:
> 
> 
> From today's Guardian:
> 
> http://www.theguardian.com/cities/gallery/2014/apr/07/classic-album-covers-in-google-street-view-in-picture
> 

That's quite interesting to see. It amazes me how much of a cultural reference 
point the Abbey Road picture has become. I guess it's at least partly because 
of the apparent simplicity and spontaneity of the composition. 

Even now, there are 2 current billboard adverts over here that play on the 
composition.

http://www.campaignlive.co.uk/thework/1286044/

I can't remember what the other one is - I remember the ad because of the 
cultural reference, but not the product. Hmm, not such a good idea, creative 
person.

It's a very unremarkable crossing. In the 80s I lived fairly near there and 
used to drive over the crossing most days. It was quite a long time after I 
moved there before I realised what I was driving over.

http://www.abbeyroad.com/Crossing

B



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Re: OT - another variant on images incorporating album covers

2014-04-07 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
"Sorry - we haven't been able to serve the page you asked for"
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On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 12:50 PM, John Francis  wrote:
>
> From today's Guardian:
>
>  
> http://www.theguardian.com/cities/gallery/2014/apr/07/classic-album-covers-in-google-street-view-in-picture
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Re: Test

2014-04-07 Thread John Sessoms

When I post or reply to the list using Yahoo, I've never seen my own
posts echoed back to me.

I'm currently subscribed from both Roadrunner and Yahoo. I see my
Roadrunner posts with both accounts, but any Yahoo posts I only see with
Roadrunner.

Is there some secret setting I have to switch on in Yahoo to get my own
posts to show up in my Yahoo inbox?


On 4/7/2014 11:03 AM, Jack Davis wrote:

Thanks, Boris. This is odd. I see responses, but my posts fail to appear in my 
folder.
I've been checking Spam, but as yet, have discovered none in there.

Anyone?

Jack




- Original Message -
From: Boris Liberman 
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
Cc:
Sent: Monday, April 7, 2014 6:52 AM
Subject: Re: Test

I cannot see you, but I can read...

Sent with AquaMail for Android
http://www.aqua-mail.com



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Can you see me now?

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Re: Test

2014-04-07 Thread John Sessoms

It came through on my RoadRunner email, but NOT on my Yahoo email.

I signed into Yahoo webmail, and it's not in the inbox there, nor in the
SPAM folder.

On 4/7/2014 8:57 AM, Jack Davis wrote:


Can you see me now?

Jack




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Re: PESO - Daffies

2014-04-07 Thread John Sessoms
I don't know how much control you have over gmail's SPAM filters, but 
could you have it look for "pdml" in the "Reply to:" header to mark it 
NOT spam?



On 4/7/2014 11:28 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

and gmail is sending you and Jack and John to SPAM.  Filters not
working to well...

On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 10:10 AM, Rick Womer  wrote:

Less than a week after the crocuses appeared, the daffodils are out. Spring is 
late, but rushing to catch up!

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17730413&size=lg

or

http://gallery.photo.net/photo/17730413-lg.jpg

(K-5, DA 50-200)

Comments?

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Re: Interesting photographs from USSR from 1940-70s

2014-04-07 Thread John Sessoms

The set reminds me of one of my favorite Sting songs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fq9FZ8e6d1Q

On 4/7/2014 8:04 AM, Mark C wrote:

"Again '2'" - nice painting. Almost Norman Rockwell-ish in the theme but
not the execution. I've never seen street cleaners like those - must of
been quite a sound as the fleet of them passed by!

Thanks for posting the link  -

Mark


On 4/7/2014 12:34 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote:

Mark,

Yes, those are indeed street cleaners.
An interesting fact about those:
In 1980s and early 1990s, it was possible to catch a ride with them
during late night time, when the city transportation ground transport
was not running anymore; they were a somewhat cheaper alternative to
a taxi. Of course, it was unofficial, and you wouldn't get a receipt.
:-)

As for "Dogulyalsya", - for me, it is reminiscent of a widely known in
Russia painting by F.P. Reshetnikov "Again '2'" ('2' is a school mark
equivalent to a "D" (or "F") in the US):
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ru/1/14/Opyat_dvoyka.jpg

Cheers,

Igor


On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 6:16 PM, Mark C  wrote:

Interesting collection indeed... Strokes of Childhood - are those
street
cleaners? Dogulyalsya is probably my favorite.


On 4/6/2014 8:52 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote:


I thought some PDMLers would find it interesting:
I came across this set of old photographs from the Soviet Union from
40s-70s.

One photo is NSFW for some work environments.
("The birth of [hu]man")

The page with Google-Translated captions:
http://goo.gl/T1bvyo

The original page is here:

http://www.adme.ru/illustration-and-photography/40-genialnyh-sovetskih-fotografij-660805/



Cheers,

Igor

PS.
A few corrections for the caption translations and comments:

1. For the car enthusiasts:
New "The Cossacks." should be
``New "Zaporozhets' ''
("Zaporozhets" is a make of the cheapest and smallest mass-produced
car in the Soviet Union. It was exported to some "Eastern Bloc"
countries,
and presumably only German (GDR) Trabant was worse.

http://content.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1658545_1658533_1658030,00.html


2. Last photo, the newspaper article title says
"Who will be the new owner of the dating service?"
And that's the photo caption.

3. The second to the last photo:
"Dogulyalsya" - Google failed to translate.
Ghm... very loosely: "finally... after playing outdoors".

4. In the 3rd from the beginning of the set (not counting the top
one),
the note says: "I need a ticket to Richter" (performance of Franz
Richter's pieces).











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OT - another variant on images incorporating album covers

2014-04-07 Thread John Francis

>From today's Guardian:

 
http://www.theguardian.com/cities/gallery/2014/apr/07/classic-album-covers-in-google-street-view-in-picture


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Re: PESO - Superhero

2014-04-07 Thread Tim Bray
I probably would have done that in color, just because he’s young and so alive.

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Re: Test

2014-04-07 Thread Bob Sullivan
Still headed to SPAM here...

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Re: Test

2014-04-07 Thread Boris Liberman

You tell...

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Test

2014-04-07 Thread Jack Davis




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Re: Test

2014-04-07 Thread Bob Sullivan
Jack,
I got this from my SPAM folder on Gmail.
New filters or something?
Poppy shot was the first I remember going there.
Regards,  Bob S.

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Re: PESO - Daffies

2014-04-07 Thread Bob Sullivan
and gmail is sending you and Jack and John to SPAM.  Filters not
working to well...

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Re: Test

2014-04-07 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, Paul. Good info.

Jack





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Still showing up in my Spam folder - have been for the last couple days

-p


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Re: PESO - Daffies

2014-04-07 Thread Bob Sullivan
Lovely Rick, I can't wait for them to get here.  Regards,  Bob S.

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Re: Leaping Tiger

2014-04-07 Thread David J Brooks
Nice, looks likwe our Norman

Dave

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PESO - Daffies

2014-04-07 Thread Rick Womer
Less than a week after the crocuses appeared, the daffodils are out. Spring is 
late, but rushing to catch up! 

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17730413&size=lg 

or 

http://gallery.photo.net/photo/17730413-lg.jpg 

(K-5, DA 50-200) 

Comments? 

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Re: Leaping Tiger

2014-04-07 Thread Jack Davis
Try cat food. I guarantee your weight loss.

J




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It is. Eat less & run more - like train for a marathon!

Alan C

-Original Message- 
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Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 1:59 PM
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Thanks Ken! After just a couple of weeks mostly outdoors he's lost the
weight he put on over the winter. I only wish it was so easy


On 4/6/2014 11:50 PM, Ken Waller wrote:
>> any advice about how to get the eyes sharp and the tailed blurred 
>> (instead of the other way around) would be appreciated.
>
> Yeah - shoot more !
>
> Good looking animal.
>
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> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
>
> - Original Message - From: "Mark C" 
> Subject: Leaping Tiger
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>> Cat Content Caution:
>>
>> http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/2014/04/06/leaping-tiger-i?blog=9
>>
>> My cat and I were hanging in the yard on this first truly warm day so far 
>> this year and decided to try for some action shots. Didn't quite pull it 
>> off though - not sure if I just blew it, or the K3 and DA 17-70 kept back 
>> focusing, or if the cat was too fast. He gave me three tries though and 
>> then light was too dim... Definitely something I will be working on in 
>> the days ahead...
>>
>> This is sorta like sports photography - any advice about how to get the 
>> eyes sharp and the tailed blurred (instead of the other way around) would 
>> be appreciated.
>>
>> Mark
>
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Re: Test

2014-04-07 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, Boris. This is odd. I see responses, but my posts fail to appear in my 
folder.
I've been checking Spam, but as yet, have discovered none in there.

Anyone?

Jack




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Re: Test

2014-04-07 Thread Paul

Still showing up in my Spam folder - have been for the last couple days

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Re: Leaping Tiger

2014-04-07 Thread Alan C

It is. Eat less & run more - like train for a marathon!

Alan C

-Original Message- 
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Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 1:59 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: Leaping Tiger

Thanks Ken! After just a couple of weeks mostly outdoors he's lost the
weight he put on over the winter. I only wish it was so easy


On 4/6/2014 11:50 PM, Ken Waller wrote:
any advice about how to get the eyes sharp and the tailed blurred 
(instead of the other way around) would be appreciated.


Yeah - shoot more !

Good looking animal.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - From: "Mark C" 
Subject: Leaping Tiger



Cat Content Caution:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/2014/04/06/leaping-tiger-i?blog=9

My cat and I were hanging in the yard on this first truly warm day so far 
this year and decided to try for some action shots. Didn't quite pull it 
off though - not sure if I just blew it, or the K3 and DA 17-70 kept back 
focusing, or if the cat was too fast. He gave me three tries though and 
then light was too dim... Definitely something I will be working on in 
the days ahead...


This is sorta like sports photography - any advice about how to get the 
eyes sharp and the tailed blurred (instead of the other way around) would 
be appreciated.


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Re: Test

2014-04-07 Thread Boris Liberman

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Re: Test

2014-04-07 Thread Jack Davis


No, Yahoo.

Thanks, G




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Must be a Verizon commercial … ;-)

G


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Re: Test

2014-04-07 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Must be a Verizon commercial … ;-)

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Test

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Re: Interesting photographs from USSR from 1940-70s

2014-04-07 Thread Mark C
"Again '2'" - nice painting. Almost Norman Rockwell-ish in the theme but 
not the execution. I've never seen street cleaners like those - must of 
been quite a sound as the fleet of them passed by!


Thanks for posting the link  -

Mark


On 4/7/2014 12:34 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote:

Mark,

Yes, those are indeed street cleaners.
An interesting fact about those:
In 1980s and early 1990s, it was possible to catch a ride with them
during late night time, when the city transportation ground transport
was not running anymore; they were a somewhat cheaper alternative to
a taxi. Of course, it was unofficial, and you wouldn't get a receipt.
:-)

As for "Dogulyalsya", - for me, it is reminiscent of a widely known in
Russia painting by F.P. Reshetnikov "Again '2'" ('2' is a school mark
equivalent to a "D" (or "F") in the US):
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ru/1/14/Opyat_dvoyka.jpg

Cheers,

Igor


On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 6:16 PM, Mark C  wrote:

Interesting collection indeed... Strokes of Childhood - are those
street
cleaners? Dogulyalsya is probably my favorite.


On 4/6/2014 8:52 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote:


I thought some PDMLers would find it interesting:
I came across this set of old photographs from the Soviet Union from
40s-70s.

One photo is NSFW for some work environments.
("The birth of [hu]man")

The page with Google-Translated captions:
http://goo.gl/T1bvyo

The original page is here:

http://www.adme.ru/illustration-and-photography/40-genialnyh-sovetskih-fotografij-660805/


Cheers,

Igor

PS.
A few corrections for the caption translations and comments:

1. For the car enthusiasts:
New "The Cossacks." should be
``New "Zaporozhets' ''
("Zaporozhets" is a make of the cheapest and smallest mass-produced
car in the Soviet Union. It was exported to some "Eastern Bloc"
countries,
and presumably only German (GDR) Trabant was worse.

http://content.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1658545_1658533_1658030,00.html

2. Last photo, the newspaper article title says
"Who will be the new owner of the dating service?"
And that's the photo caption.

3. The second to the last photo:
"Dogulyalsya" - Google failed to translate.
Ghm... very loosely: "finally... after playing outdoors".

4. In the 3rd from the beginning of the set (not counting the top
one),
the note says: "I need a ticket to Richter" (performance of Franz
Richter's pieces).









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Re: Leaping Tiger

2014-04-07 Thread Mark C
Thanks Ken! After just a couple of weeks mostly outdoors he's lost the 
weight he put on over the winter. I only wish it was so easy



On 4/6/2014 11:50 PM, Ken Waller wrote:
any advice about how to get the eyes sharp and the tailed blurred 
(instead of the other way around) would be appreciated.


Yeah - shoot more !

Good looking animal.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - From: "Mark C" 
Subject: Leaping Tiger



Cat Content Caution:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/2014/04/06/leaping-tiger-i?blog=9 



My cat and I were hanging in the yard on this first truly warm day so 
far this year and decided to try for some action shots. Didn't quite 
pull it off though - not sure if I just blew it, or the K3 and DA 
17-70 kept back focusing, or if the cat was too fast. He gave me 
three tries though and then light was too dim... Definitely something 
I will be working on in the days ahead...


This is sorta like sports photography - any advice about how to get 
the eyes sharp and the tailed blurred (instead of the other way 
around) would be appreciated.


Mark






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Re: Leaping Tiger

2014-04-07 Thread Mark C
Thanks Jack. Anything much bigger than web sized shows that the focus is 
either on the cat's tail or the foliage behind him. The last shot was a 
pre-leap anticipation - unfortunately my reflexes are not cat-like so by 
the time I pushed the shutter button when he jumped he was way out of 
the frame!



On 4/6/2014 11:07 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

They look decent to me, Mark. Don't know if I'd try a continuous shutter 
shutter burst on not. Probably
best to attempt anticipating the leap and concentrate on staying on the head 
for a shot. Would likely distract him if you started the burst a bit too soon.
Something to play at.

Jack





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From: Mark C 
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Subject: Leaping Tiger

Cat Content Caution:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/2014/04/06/leaping-tiger-i?blog=9

My cat and I were hanging in the yard on this first truly warm day so
far this year and decided to try for some action shots. Didn't quite
pull it off though - not sure if I just blew it, or the K3 and DA 17-70
kept back focusing, or if the cat was too fast. He gave me three tries
though and then light was too dim... Definitely something I will be
working on in the days ahead...

This is sorta like sports photography - any advice about how to get the
eyes sharp and the tailed blurred (instead of the other way around)
would be appreciated.

Mark




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