Re: Discouraged.
What's wrong with it? Well it was supposed to replace the jpeg and gif standards in web pages, (when it looked like jpeg might have been patented and of gif always had always been owned by CompuServe IIRC and there were threats of lawsuits over licensing), both of which ware relatively lightweight image files that should be used for different purposes. PNG tries to replace both and does it badly, and also can be used as a general purpose editing format, so it also want's to be a Tiff or maybe a PSD file. If they had just tried to make a lossless equivalent of Jpeg, (and isn't there a JPEG 2000, standard that's supposed to be lossless, anyway which while larger than normal jpegs is still much smaller than PNG), The designers tried to put too much into it, and almost no one uses it, now that the threat to users of jpegs and gifs has receded. On 5/15/2014 2:53 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: P.J. Alling wrote: You just described what png should have been except that it became a bloated misbegotten camel from a committee trying to design a horse. I don't understand what you mean by this. What's wrong with PNG? The files are much larger than JPEG but that's an unavoidable consequence of using lossless compression with image data. -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, crazier. - H.L.Mencken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Curious views on HCB
Some of those comments appear to be reviews of the exhibition rather than of HCB's work. As far as critical and popular opinions of his work are concerned, most great artists under reappraisal and a dip in popularity after their death, so it shouldn't be a surprise if this happens to HCB. Part of the value of criticism is in revealing things about the artist or their work that we might not otherwise have seen, and it might include things we disagree with strongly. So be it. B On 16 May 2014, at 00:25, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: Hi Everyone: In the foreword to the 2013 edition of The Best American Travel Writing, Jason Wilson includes some curious quotes from reviews of the HCB retrospective exhibition at MOMA several years ago: The show was deemed 'almost unenduringly majestic' by The New Yorker's Peter Schjeldshl, who gave this stern assessment of what he called [HCB's] 'platitudinous' work: 'richly satisfies the eye and the mind, while numbing the heart.' This was seconded by the [NYT] Holland Cotter, who claimed that [HCB] 'ideas and emotions are diffuse' and that 'surprisingly little tension builds' in the exhibition. Both critics trotted out tired old comparisons to the work of Robert Frank, a detractor of [HCB] who once unjustly said of the older photographer, 'He traveled all over the world, and you never felt he was moved by something that was happening other than the beauty of it, or just the composition.' I have to say I was surprised by these views, and I wasn't aware of Frank's position. Any thoughts from the list? Cheers, Christine P.S. I wouldn't recommend this edition of BA Travel writing. To much of the work was down right dull. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
California PDMLers
Just saw a clip on the fires in the San Diego area. Stay safe everyone out west. Christine Sent from my iPad -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PDML book 2014 - Let me know when you get your copy
On 15/05/2014, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: I've got a few coming (thanks to the generous donors) but they won't arrive until next week. For some reason Blurb has my orders printed in Washington state and then shipped all the way to the east coast here in Boston. Go figure. You're lucky. Mine are printed (or have been up to now) in a different _country_. Shipped yesterday. From somewhere. Might be here Monday. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: iPad Play
On 15/05/2014, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: http://www.caguila.com/park/ Just had a chance to look at these. What's with the ringed trees? Park people usually like things nice and tidy, so unwanted trees are cut down. Ringed trees (I'm assuming the other trees in the background are similarly mutilated) are dead and will fall down at some point. Litigators 'r' us will have a field day if one piledrives a granny into the dirt, as happens so often to poor W. E. Coyote. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Perhaps The List can help with this?
On May 15, 2014, at 6:54 AM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Bob Sullivan wrote: Looking at the snowboard on the site Jostein uncovered, I'd give him an F. Obvious copy of elements if not in total. The student got an F in the course long before I even suspected plagiarism. (Skipped more than 25% of classes, skipped 50% of tests during the semester, turned in most work late and delivered a final project, which was in Adobe Illustrator, consisting of this JPEG image embedded in an Illustrator file! — his grade for the course was 37%…) This was the one that gave you a negative review over grading? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PDML book 2014 - Let me know when you get your copy
Mine are due here in Raleigh on 28 May. On 5/15/2014 2:46 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: I've got a few coming (thanks to the generous donors) but they won't arrive until next week. For some reason Blurb has my orders printed in Washington state and then shipped all the way to the east coast here in Boston. Go figure. Anyway, please let us know when you have a print copy in hand. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PDML book 2014 - Let me know when you get your copy
On 16/05/2014 2:39 AM, mike wilson wrote: You're lucky. Mine are printed (or have been up to now) in a different _country_. Shipped yesterday. From somewhere. Might be here Monday. Move to a country with electricity. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Adobe CC is down, rendering apps and chat support unusable
Found an article on-line that offers the best FREE alternatives to Adobe's cloud: http://www.itproportal.com/2014/05/15/the-best-free-alternatives-to-adobe-creative-cloud/ FWIW, I'm stuck with Photoshop CS6. Since Adobe says there won't ever be another shrink-wrap upgrade that's it for me. I didn't trust the cloud even before it blew up. On 5/15/2014 2:59 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: As reported by PetaPixel ... http://t.co/WpyAPpqc1p A bit of schadenfreude for those us who feared such an outcome and dislike Internet hobbled software architecture. I wonder how Adobe will respond to this bad press? -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Discouraged.
P.J. Alling wrote: What's wrong with it? Well it was supposed to replace the jpeg and gif standards in web pages, (when it looked like jpeg might have been patented and of gif always had always been owned by CompuServe IIRC and there were threats of lawsuits over licensing), both of which ware relatively lightweight image files that should be used for different purposes. PNG tries to replace both and does it badly, and also can be used as a general purpose editing format, so it also want's to be a Tiff or maybe a PSD file. If they had just tried to make a lossless equivalent of Jpeg, (and isn't there a JPEG 2000, standard that's supposed to be lossless, anyway which while larger than normal jpegs is still much smaller than PNG), The designers tried to put too much into it, and almost no one uses it, now that the threat to users of jpegs and gifs has receded. Almost all of that is wrong. The 8-bit version of PNG (PNG-8) was intended to replace GIF with a non-proprietary format that offered smaller file size. In that it succeed almost completely. It's non-proprietary and if makes for smaller files except for a few cases with really small images. I don't know any web designer who uses GIF for still graphics any more, PNG-8 is near universal. PNG-24 was never intended to replace JPEG for photographs for web purposes. The main purpose of PNG-24 is graphic design images (as opposed to photographic images) which require alpha channel transparency. Neither JPEG nor GIF can do that at all. No form of PNG was ever intended to replace PSD or TIFF (PNG stands for Portable Network Graphics) - PNG doesn't support layers and though it theoretically does support embedded ICC profiles, I don't know of any software that will embed profiles in PNGs. JPEG2000 had multiple compression options, one of which was lossless, but it was generally less efficient than PNG. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PDML book 2014 - Let me know when you get your copy
N. I prefer my gravel cold. On 16 May 2014 12:16, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 16/05/2014 2:39 AM, mike wilson wrote: You're lucky. Mine are printed (or have been up to now) in a different _country_. Shipped yesterday. From somewhere. Might be here Monday. Move to a country with electricity. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PDML book 2014 - Let me know when you get your copy
i have a tracking number as of this morning, so its on its way, from parts unknown, or Regina not sure. On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 7:56 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: N. I prefer my gravel cold. On 16 May 2014 12:16, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 16/05/2014 2:39 AM, mike wilson wrote: You're lucky. Mine are printed (or have been up to now) in a different _country_. Shipped yesterday. From somewhere. Might be here Monday. Move to a country with electricity. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Steven Colbert's take on Amazon's patent
Another gubment run outfit! What do you expect? -Original Message- From: Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com Subject: Re: Steven Colbert's take on Amazon's patent Yea, read about this the other day. What a f#?king joke! A work colleague also gave me an earful about what a joke the patent scene/office has become. Sad. Cheers, Christine On May 16, 2014, at 12:19 AM, Stanley Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: http://www.photographybay.com/2014/05/15/colbert-report-takes-on-amazons-seamless-white-background-patent/?awt_l=6EQhYawt_m=JRw7INzp_f62xu -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Discouraged.
Thinking in terms of my workflow where I save all my layers, intermediate steps stuff in PSD files; when I have the image ready to print or upload, I convert to a profile (sRGB) which also flattens the image. Would that be the same as an embedded profile? I re-size it to appropriate dimensions and save it in a final output form - new file name, new extension. How well does PNG work in terms my wish for a file format I can use to provide an image that won't be trashed if some clueless person re-sizes it again to make it fit in their newsletter? On 5/16/2014 7:55 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: P.J. Alling wrote: What's wrong with it? Well it was supposed to replace the jpeg and gif standards in web pages, (when it looked like jpeg might have been patented and of gif always had always been owned by CompuServe IIRC and there were threats of lawsuits over licensing), both of which ware relatively lightweight image files that should be used for different purposes. PNG tries to replace both and does it badly, and also can be used as a general purpose editing format, so it also want's to be a Tiff or maybe a PSD file. If they had just tried to make a lossless equivalent of Jpeg, (and isn't there a JPEG 2000, standard that's supposed to be lossless, anyway which while larger than normal jpegs is still much smaller than PNG), The designers tried to put too much into it, and almost no one uses it, now that the threat to users of jpegs and gifs has receded. Almost all of that is wrong. The 8-bit version of PNG (PNG-8) was intended to replace GIF with a non-proprietary format that offered smaller file size. In that it succeed almost completely. It's non-proprietary and if makes for smaller files except for a few cases with really small images. I don't know any web designer who uses GIF for still graphics any more, PNG-8 is near universal. PNG-24 was never intended to replace JPEG for photographs for web purposes. The main purpose of PNG-24 is graphic design images (as opposed to photographic images) which require alpha channel transparency. Neither JPEG nor GIF can do that at all. No form of PNG was ever intended to replace PSD or TIFF (PNG stands for Portable Network Graphics) - PNG doesn't support layers and though it theoretically does support embedded ICC profiles, I don't know of any software that will embed profiles in PNGs. JPEG2000 had multiple compression options, one of which was lossless, but it was generally less efficient than PNG. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Adobe CC is down, rendering apps and chat support unusable
Here's why I think it's a BIG problem for Adobe: http://www.digitalartsonline.co.uk/news/creative-software/creative-cloud-outage-adobe-id-login-failures-mean-daily-mails-digital-edition-couldnt-be-published/ Major newspapers who rely on the product for their online editions couldn't publish yesterday. On 5/15/2014 2:59 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: As reported by PetaPixel ... http://t.co/WpyAPpqc1p A bit of schadenfreude for those us who feared such an outcome and dislike Internet hobbled software architecture. I wonder how Adobe will respond to this bad press? -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Discouraged.
John wrote: Thinking in terms of my workflow where I save all my layers, intermediate steps stuff in PSD files; when I have the image ready to print or upload, I convert to a profile (sRGB) which also flattens the image. Would that be the same as an embedded profile? Nope. Converting to another profile and embedding the profile are different things. When you do a Save As in Photoshop, for example, you'll see a check box at the bottom of the dialog in the Color section that says ICC Profile. Checking that box embeds the profile. How well does PNG work in terms my wish for a file format I can use to provide an image that won't be trashed if some clueless person re-sizes it again to make it fit in their newsletter? No file format will protect against image quality loss through resizing. Truth to tell, once the image is out of your hands there's nothing you can do to prevent someone fscking it up. Photoshop is simply too complex and too readily available to people who don't know how to use it. Even if you provide a great file in PNG/PSD/JPEG format some can resave it as a JPEG with quality setting 0. All you can do is deliver the best quality JPEG you can make, in sRGB colorspace with embedded profile, and cross your fingers. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO 2014 - 126-130 - GDG
On May 15, 2014, at 9:40 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigio...@me.com wrote: Thank you Christine! And I must say, I enjoyed seeing your iPad photos. Amazing what can be done with these devices. :-) Thanks, Godfrey! Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: iPad Play
Thanks, Don! Much Appreciated! Cheers, Christine On May 15, 2014, at 3:51 PM, Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote: Obviously the PP negates any interest in the camera used in this case. But I admire your picture taking as i have never taken anything to like with any I-device. I think the 2nd one is very impressive. Freedom! pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 15 Date: Thu, 15 May 2014 10:20:19 -0500 From: Christine Aguilachrist...@caguila.com To: PDML Listpdml@pdml.net Subject: OT: iPad Play Message-ID:7f64c22e-97de-4d08-b591-9b0ad5502...@caguila.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Hi Everyone: These 5 pictures were shot with the iPad Air and rendered with the iPad Air. The combination of photo apps used were Photogene, Snapseed, Vintage HD, then just a bit of lightening in Lightroom when I imported them for upload to the web. I?m a more freeish bird now. I?ve completed some heavy work responsibilities that I?ve had for the last two years?all gone now. Yes! Yes! Yes! I took a walk in the park yesterday with my nephew, and it felt such a luxury. Speaking of my nephew, Akira, (think portrait in PDML annual)?at the age of 13, he?s 5 foot 11 inches! Shooting with the iPad was fun, but I did have some challenges. The daylight glare on the screen was somewhat annoying, but I did get used to it, and it is a bit awkward to handle?no camera strap, holding it steady out in front of you and figuring out how to hold when not shooting can be clumsy. Still, it was fun and a bit freeing. I aim to do more shooting with it for a bit of variety. http://www.caguila.com/park/ Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Discouraged.
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: No file format will protect against image quality loss through resizing. Vector. Muttley laugh / -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Discouraged.
Bruce Walker wrote: On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: No file format will protect against image quality loss through resizing. Vector. Muttley laugh / Shoulda been Dick Dastardly. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Yet another ridiculous copyright lawsuit (David vs. Goliath)
Yet another seemingly ridiculous lawsuit over photo copyright: Walmart wants to take over the photos from the photographer who took them long ago: http://www.ppa.com/ppa-today-blog/inspiration/walmart-files-suit-against-pho.php It the essence of the case is as described, I hope the judge will give a big slap on the wrist to W's for the frivolous lawsuit. Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Discouraged.
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 02:37:45PM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote: Bruce Walker wrote: On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: No file format will protect against image quality loss through resizing. Vector. Muttley laugh / Shoulda been Dick Dastardly. I disagree - I think the Muttley snigger would be entirely appropriate. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: At the feeder today
We have had 5-6 of these Orioles hanging around, drawn to the neighborhood no doubt by the fact that Meg and our neighbours on both sides put out an ample supply of grape jelly for them. http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p155717848/e29afe54b An addition this year to our list of sightings are a couple of indigo buntings. I haven’t been able to sneak into a good shooting position yet without scaring them away. One of the buntings and a cardinal were sharing the bush by one of the feeders this afternoon - I didn’t even try to go out and capture that image, just sat here and admired the colors. stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Yet another ridiculous copyright lawsuit (David vs. Goliath)
I remember that episode, when Johnboy and Grampaw tried to git Zeke the daguerrotyper to hand over them fotees he dun tooken o' grammaw's shameful ankles on the Lawd's day, but Maw she dun save the day wi' her uncommon good sense 'n ev'thin' turned out fine again here on Walton's Mall, 'n it'll be the same this time round. G'night Mary-Ellen! Bobby-Joe On 16 May 2014, at 19:39, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote: Yet another seemingly ridiculous lawsuit over photo copyright: Walmart wants to take over the photos from the photographer who took them long ago: http://www.ppa.com/ppa-today-blog/inspiration/walmart-files-suit-against-pho.php It the essence of the case is as described, I hope the judge will give a big slap on the wrist to W's for the frivolous lawsuit. Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: iPad Play
Excellent! Love the look. Paul On May 16, 2014, at 12:39 PM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: Thanks, Don! Much Appreciated! Cheers, Christine On May 15, 2014, at 3:51 PM, Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote: Obviously the PP negates any interest in the camera used in this case. But I admire your picture taking as i have never taken anything to like with any I-device. I think the 2nd one is very impressive. Freedom! pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 15 Date: Thu, 15 May 2014 10:20:19 -0500 From: Christine Aguilachrist...@caguila.com To: PDML Listpdml@pdml.net Subject: OT: iPad Play Message-ID:7f64c22e-97de-4d08-b591-9b0ad5502...@caguila.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Hi Everyone: These 5 pictures were shot with the iPad Air and rendered with the iPad Air. The combination of photo apps used were Photogene, Snapseed, Vintage HD, then just a bit of lightening in Lightroom when I imported them for upload to the web. I?m a more freeish bird now. I?ve completed some heavy work responsibilities that I?ve had for the last two years?all gone now. Yes! Yes! Yes! I took a walk in the park yesterday with my nephew, and it felt such a luxury. Speaking of my nephew, Akira, (think portrait in PDML annual)?at the age of 13, he?s 5 foot 11 inches! Shooting with the iPad was fun, but I did have some challenges. The daylight glare on the screen was somewhat annoying, but I did get used to it, and it is a bit awkward to handle?no camera strap, holding it steady out in front of you and figuring out how to hold when not shooting can be clumsy. Still, it was fun and a bit freeing. I aim to do more shooting with it for a bit of variety. http://www.caguila.com/park/ Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Yet another ridiculous copyright lawsuit (David vs. Goliath)
Bob W-PDML wrote: I remember that episode, when Johnboy and Grampaw tried to git Zeke the daguerrotyper to hand over them fotees he dun tooken o' grammaw's shameful ankles on the Lawd's day, but Maw she dun save the day wi' her uncommon good sense 'n ev'thin' turned out fine again here on Walton's Mall, 'n it'll be the same this time round. G'night Mary-Ellen! When we're in London in August I'm going to insist you give us a personal recital of that. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Yet another ridiculous copyright lawsuit (David vs. Goliath)
On 16 May 2014, at 22:49, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Bob W-PDML wrote: I remember that episode, when Johnboy and Grampaw tried to git Zeke the daguerrotyper to hand over them fotees he dun tooken o' grammaw's shameful ankles on the Lawd's day, but Maw she dun save the day wi' her uncommon good sense 'n ev'thin' turned out fine again here on Walton's Mall, 'n it'll be the same this time round. G'night Mary-Ellen! When we're in London in August I'm going to insist you give us a personal recital of that. Y'all gimme a straw t' suck now 'n we're tootin' B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Yet another ridiculous copyright lawsuit (David vs. Goliath)
On 16/05/2014, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Bob W-PDML wrote: I remember that episode, when Johnboy and Grampaw tried to git Zeke the daguerrotyper to hand over them fotees he dun tooken o' grammaw's shameful ankles on the Lawd's day, but Maw she dun save the day wi' her uncommon good sense 'n ev'thin' turned out fine again here on Walton's Mall, 'n it'll be the same this time round. G'night Mary-Ellen! When we're in London in August I'm going to insist you give us a personal recital of that. Just don't let him do it dressed as Granny Clampett. Again. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Yet another ridiculous copyright lawsuit (David vs. Goliath)
On 16 May 2014, at 22:58, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: On 16/05/2014, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Bob W-PDML wrote: I remember that episode, when Johnboy and Grampaw tried to git Zeke the daguerrotyper to hand over them fotees he dun tooken o' grammaw's shameful ankles on the Lawd's day, but Maw she dun save the day wi' her uncommon good sense 'n ev'thin' turned out fine again here on Walton's Mall, 'n it'll be the same this time round. G'night Mary-Ellen! When we're in London in August I'm going to insist you give us a personal recital of that. Just don't let him do it dressed as Granny Clampett. Again. Say what you like about Granny Clampett, she had wholesome, American values, 'n no mistakin' http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Cx8XeGHMRto B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Yet another ridiculous copyright lawsuit (David vs. Goliath)
mike wilson wrote: On 16/05/2014, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Bob W-PDML wrote: I remember that episode, when Johnboy and Grampaw tried to git Zeke the daguerrotyper to hand over them fotees he dun tooken o' grammaw's shameful ankles on the Lawd's day, but Maw she dun save the day wi' her uncommon good sense 'n ev'thin' turned out fine again here on Walton's Mall, 'n it'll be the same this time round. G'night Mary-Ellen! When we're in London in August I'm going to insist you give us a personal recital of that. Just don't let him do it dressed as Granny Clampett. Again. As long as it's not the legendary Japanese Schoolgirl outfit. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Yet another ridiculous copyright lawsuit (David vs. Goliath)
On 16 May 2014, at 23:12, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: mike wilson wrote: On 16/05/2014, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Bob W-PDML wrote: I remember that episode, when Johnboy and Grampaw tried to git Zeke the daguerrotyper to hand over them fotees he dun tooken o' grammaw's shameful ankles on the Lawd's day, but Maw she dun save the day wi' her uncommon good sense 'n ev'thin' turned out fine again here on Walton's Mall, 'n it'll be the same this time round. G'night Mary-Ellen! When we're in London in August I'm going to insist you give us a personal recital of that. Just don't let him do it dressed as Granny Clampett. Again. As long as it's not the legendary Japanese Schoolgirl outfit. Truly, if you can think it, it's there somewhere: http://kotaku.com/this-is-just-a-middle-aged-man-dressed-as-a-japanese-sc-479226302 B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: At the feeder today
That's nice, Stan--a good look from the bird, great bokeh, and a nice composition. Cheers, Christine Sent from my iPad On May 16, 2014, at 3:36 PM, Stanley Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: We have had 5-6 of these Orioles hanging around, drawn to the neighborhood no doubt by the fact that Meg and our neighbours on both sides put out an ample supply of grape jelly for them. http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p155717848/e29afe54b An addition this year to our list of sightings are a couple of indigo buntings. I haven’t been able to sneak into a good shooting position yet without scaring them away. One of the buntings and a cardinal were sharing the bush by one of the feeders this afternoon - I didn’t even try to go out and capture that image, just sat here and admired the colors. stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: iPad Play
I'm not sure what the plans are for those trees. This area of the park has been relandscaped to minimize flooding in the area. It looks quite pretty, though admittedly the trees look odd. Cheers, Christine Sent from my iPad On May 16, 2014, at 3:56 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: On 15/05/2014, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: http://www.caguila.com/park/ Just had a chance to look at these. What's with the ringed trees? Park people usually like things nice and tidy, so unwanted trees are cut down. Ringed trees (I'm assuming the other trees in the background are similarly mutilated) are dead and will fall down at some point. Litigators 'r' us will have a field day if one piledrives a granny into the dirt, as happens so often to poor W. E. Coyote. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: iPad Play
Thanks, Paul. Cheers, Christine Sent from my iPad On May 16, 2014, at 4:26 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Excellent! Love the look. Paul On May 16, 2014, at 12:39 PM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: Thanks, Don! Much Appreciated! Cheers, Christine On May 15, 2014, at 3:51 PM, Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote: Obviously the PP negates any interest in the camera used in this case. But I admire your picture taking as i have never taken anything to like with any I-device. I think the 2nd one is very impressive. Freedom! pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 15 Date: Thu, 15 May 2014 10:20:19 -0500 From: Christine Aguilachrist...@caguila.com To: PDML Listpdml@pdml.net Subject: OT: iPad Play Message-ID:7f64c22e-97de-4d08-b591-9b0ad5502...@caguila.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Hi Everyone: These 5 pictures were shot with the iPad Air and rendered with the iPad Air. The combination of photo apps used were Photogene, Snapseed, Vintage HD, then just a bit of lightening in Lightroom when I imported them for upload to the web. I?m a more freeish bird now. I?ve completed some heavy work responsibilities that I?ve had for the last two years?all gone now. Yes! Yes! Yes! I took a walk in the park yesterday with my nephew, and it felt such a luxury. Speaking of my nephew, Akira, (think portrait in PDML annual)?at the age of 13, he?s 5 foot 11 inches! Shooting with the iPad was fun, but I did have some challenges. The daylight glare on the screen was somewhat annoying, but I did get used to it, and it is a bit awkward to handle?no camera strap, holding it steady out in front of you and figuring out how to hold when not shooting can be clumsy. Still, it was fun and a bit freeing. I aim to do more shooting with it for a bit of variety. http://www.caguila.com/park/ Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Sinokray
A gorgeous portrait, Bong. Your lighting is excellent, especially for the subject matter. Fascinating story on the tattoos. On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 9:50 PM, Bong Manayon bongmana...@ymail.com wrote: Forget about moire, had a chance to use the K-3 on a project... https://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/14131270865/ This is just the safe version :) To add to the back story on the flickr page start here http://my_sarisari_store.typepad.com/my_sarisari_store/kalinga-tribal-tattoos/ Bong Bong Manayon http://bong.manayon.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Sinokray
Love the technical artistry of this, Bong. Bit of left side lighting completes the image. Jack - Original Message - From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 5:58:16 PM Subject: Re: PESO - Sinokray A gorgeous portrait, Bong. Your lighting is excellent, especially for the subject matter. Fascinating story on the tattoos. On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 9:50 PM, Bong Manayon bongmana...@ymail.com wrote: Forget about moire, had a chance to use the K-3 on a project... https://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/14131270865/ This is just the safe version :) To add to the back story on the flickr page start here http://my_sarisari_store.typepad.com/my_sarisari_store/kalinga-tribal-tattoos/ Bong Bong Manayon http://bong.manayon.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: At the feeder today
Nice composition, Stan. In fact I agree with everything said by Christine, but...looks like the focus was caught by the near edge of the feeder. Jack - Original Message - From: Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 5:03:53 PM Subject: Re: PESO: At the feeder today That's nice, Stan--a good look from the bird, great bokeh, and a nice composition. Cheers, Christine Sent from my iPad On May 16, 2014, at 3:36 PM, Stanley Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: We have had 5-6 of these Orioles hanging around, drawn to the neighborhood no doubt by the fact that Meg and our neighbours on both sides put out an ample supply of grape jelly for them. http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p155717848/e29afe54b An addition this year to our list of sightings are a couple of indigo buntings. I haven’t been able to sneak into a good shooting position yet without scaring them away. One of the buntings and a cardinal were sharing the bush by one of the feeders this afternoon - I didn’t even try to go out and capture that image, just sat here and admired the colors. stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: At the feeder today
Thanks Jack. I think you are right about the focus. I prefocused, but on the wrong target given the narrow DOF at 25 foot range with a 300mm. Re-selected the focus point once I had a bird on the feeder, but I was working without tripod, braced sortta against a wall, he had set the feeder rocking…This is a half-way decent shot which shows a beautifully-colored bird. It is not Art nor an Audubon portrait. I’ll keep working it until I can get the focus part of it right as well. stan On 16 May 2014, at 23:14, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote: Nice composition, Stan. In fact I agree with everything said by Christine, but...looks like the focus was caught by the near edge of the feeder. Jack - Original Message - From: Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 5:03:53 PM Subject: Re: PESO: At the feeder today That's nice, Stan--a good look from the bird, great bokeh, and a nice composition. Cheers, Christine Sent from my iPad On May 16, 2014, at 3:36 PM, Stanley Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: We have had 5-6 of these Orioles hanging around, drawn to the neighborhood no doubt by the fact that Meg and our neighbours on both sides put out an ample supply of grape jelly for them. http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p155717848/e29afe54b An addition this year to our list of sightings are a couple of indigo buntings. I haven’t been able to sneak into a good shooting position yet without scaring them away. One of the buntings and a cardinal were sharing the bush by one of the feeders this afternoon - I didn’t even try to go out and capture that image, just sat here and admired the colors. stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: At the feeder today
I've never seen an oriole in my area. They are beautiful birds, though. We do get lots of indigo buntings. Unfortunately, the tree I used for most of my bird shots blew over in a storm a couple of years ago. Nevertheless -- love the shot, Stan! -- Walt On 5/16/2014 3:36 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote: We have had 5-6 of these Orioles hanging around, drawn to the neighborhood no doubt by the fact that Meg and our neighbours on both sides put out an ample supply of grape jelly for them. http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p155717848/e29afe54b An addition this year to our list of sightings are a couple of indigo buntings. I haven’t been able to sneak into a good shooting position yet without scaring them away. One of the buntings and a cardinal were sharing the bush by one of the feeders this afternoon - I didn’t even try to go out and capture that image, just sat here and admired the colors. stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
