Re: Salem witches low key rendering
I agree with everyone else. Too dark. Back to the drawing board I'm afraid. Chris On 13 June 2014 01:34, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: Hi Everyone: Just doing a little on the road experimenting here. I want to render these shots from the Salem Witches Museum in black and white and low key. How does the detail look in the shadows? Good? Not so good? I'm working off the iPad here and just wanted to know how it looks on your calibrated monitors. Cheers, Christine https://www.dropbox.com/s/w4rbvn4ukc7v9ry/Photo%20Jan%2021%2C%2011%2004%2013%20AM.jpg Sent from my iPad -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Salem witches low key rendering
Very dark on my iPad. I did an adjustment with Photogene: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/hoyp3vdozizm416/AAAnAO7AMXV-aFvbvZc_NJBoa That looks good to my eye! Turn down the brightness on your iPad! :-) Godfrey On Jun 12, 2014, at 6:12 PM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: Thanks everyone. It's really interesting because I am getting detail in the shadows on my iPad. It will be interesting what I see on the desktop at home. Glad I tested it out with you guys. Cheers, Christine Sent from my iPad On Jun 12, 2014, at 9:04 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: That's _really_ dark, Christine. Lightest pixels must be around 1/2 intensity. Detail In shadows: none. Figures visible, as Dan says. On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 8:34 PM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: Hi Everyone: Just doing a little on the road experimenting here. I want to render these shots from the Salem Witches Museum in black and white and low key. How does the detail look in the shadows? Good? Not so good? I'm working off the iPad here and just wanted to know how it looks on your calibrated monitors. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
DA* 16-50 vs DA Ltd 20-40? You decide guys
I went for neither, but picked up the Made in Japan version of the Tamron 17-50 for $ 425 brand new. This lens is brutally sharp. I had to dial in +4 as my K-5 + the Tammy was back focusing. It is spot on the K20D though. Expensive may not always be true unless one insists on going Ricoh/Pentax all the way. Regards. Bipin. camp: Thornhill, Ontario. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DA* 16-50 vs DA Ltd 20-40? You decide guys
On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 12:34 AM, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote: If you can't decide between two lenses it means you need both of them. I went the other way. I couldn't decide between two lenses, so I bought a third lens instead, spending as much as the two would have cost! Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Orange and White
Thanks, Bob. I actually wanted the other bloom a bit out of focus, since it was in the corner and only partially in frame. What I am learning here, on this PESO and some other recent ones, is that I need to stop- down the aperture more on my macros. Thank you for your comments, helpful as always. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 11:03 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Dan, I appreciate the bit different composition. I wish the fuzzy spot at the bottom of the other bloom was sharp. Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 7:34 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Attila, Paul and Bruce. Paul, I thought about isolating the main bloom from the other one, and I almost plucked it on the spot, but then I decided that including part of the other bloom would make the image a bit different from all the others I was taking. I guess this proves different isn't necessarily better. ,g. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 6:29 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: It's gorgeous and the tonality is delicious, and the OOF bg to isolate really well. I find the 1/4 flower LL to be a distraction. In this case I'd prefer to see just the one isolated flower. On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 5:04 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17788391 Comments are invited Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Peach
Thanks, Jack! This is actually part of a series I took trying to record all the various varieties of daffodils I have in my yard. (over a dozen.) I like this image because it shows the colors best. I think I did not get down low enough, and I focused on the white petals on the left, rather than on the corona or the pistil and anthers. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 11:05 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote: Nice color and composition., Dan. That blasted focus thing anyway! ;-) Jack - Original Message - From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 6:03:29 PM Subject: PESO: Peach http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17788393size=md Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Orange and White
Dan, On further review, the fuzzy spot looks more like you caught the edge of another flower in front of the 2nd daffodil. That 1st one is still perfect and killer sharp. Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 8:38 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Bob. I actually wanted the other bloom a bit out of focus, since it was in the corner and only partially in frame. What I am learning here, on this PESO and some other recent ones, is that I need to stop- down the aperture more on my macros. Thank you for your comments, helpful as always. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 11:03 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Dan, I appreciate the bit different composition. I wish the fuzzy spot at the bottom of the other bloom was sharp. Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 7:34 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Attila, Paul and Bruce. Paul, I thought about isolating the main bloom from the other one, and I almost plucked it on the spot, but then I decided that including part of the other bloom would make the image a bit different from all the others I was taking. I guess this proves different isn't necessarily better. ,g. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 6:29 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: It's gorgeous and the tonality is delicious, and the OOF bg to isolate really well. I find the 1/4 flower LL to be a distraction. In this case I'd prefer to see just the one isolated flower. On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 5:04 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17788391 Comments are invited Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Peach
Yes, I see, Dan. Picking the right aperture to either blur out a busy background or include an additional more distant element, is a photo constant. Jack - Original Message - From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 6:45:31 AM Subject: Re: PESO: Peach Thanks, Jack! This is actually part of a series I took trying to record all the various varieties of daffodils I have in my yard. (over a dozen.) I like this image because it shows the colors best. I think I did not get down low enough, and I focused on the white petals on the left, rather than on the corona or the pistil and anthers. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 11:05 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote: Nice color and composition., Dan. That blasted focus thing anyway! ;-) Jack - Original Message - From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 6:03:29 PM Subject: PESO: Peach http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17788393size=md Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DA* 16-50 vs DA Ltd 20-40? You decide guys
The Tamron and the Sigma has both been at my radar. Alas they are not sealed, and at my part of the globe sealing helps my worry less. That's good for my blood pressure. So sealed lenses is doctors order. That's my story, and I'll stick to it. -- MaritimTim My private photo blog: http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ To err is human to arr is pirate 2014-06-13 15:34 GMT+02:00 Bipin Gupta bip...@gmail.com: I went for neither, but picked up the Made in Japan version of the Tamron 17-50 for $ 425 brand new. This lens is brutally sharp. I had to dial in +4 as my K-5 + the Tammy was back focusing. It is spot on the K20D though. Expensive may not always be true unless one insists on going Ricoh/Pentax all the way. Regards. Bipin. camp: Thornhill, Ontario. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DA* 16-50 vs DA Ltd 20-40? You decide guys
On 12/06/2014 3:59 PM, Tim Øsleby wrote: Long time no see. I need help from the best Pentax crew. Subject line pretty much sums it up. I know that 16 mm is wider than 20 mm, and that f:2,8 is faster than f:4. I also know that smaller and lighter is smaller and lighter. Hi Tim: I have rather limited experience with the 16-50, I was given one to use by Pentax Canada to use for a few days prior to it's release. I found it to be kind of big, kind of awkward, but optically very good. I didn't like the plastic finish, but that doesn't speak to anything beyond my questionable sense of esthetics. My understanding is that it is still having problems wit the SDM motors to this day. I bought one of the 20-40mm lenses and in many respects I like it, in some respects I don't like it. It's not huge, but it is a chunky lens. If one looks at the specifications, it is about the same size as the 31mm lens, but the specs don't tell the whole story. The 31mm lens flares out quite a bit at the front, where the lens diameter measurement is taken, but it tapers back quite a bit less than a quarter of the way back. The reality is, it is a much smaller lens than the specifications imply. The 20-40 doesn't taper, it's just a biggish lens. I like the finish of the 20-40, and the optical qualities are superb, and in keeping with the Limited optics. It has a new and improved AF motor, apparently not SDM, so hopefully it will be more reliable than the 16-60. Having said that, I don't like mine enough to actually use it, and am considering selling it. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Peach
Oh, that's my problem, I guess. I'm not constant. Or Consistent. or convicted. G Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote: Yes, I see, Dan. Picking the right aperture to either blur out a busy background or include an additional more distant element, is a photo constant. Jack - Original Message - From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 6:45:31 AM Subject: Re: PESO: Peach Thanks, Jack! This is actually part of a series I took trying to record all the various varieties of daffodils I have in my yard. (over a dozen.) I like this image because it shows the colors best. I think I did not get down low enough, and I focused on the white petals on the left, rather than on the corona or the pistil and anthers. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 11:05 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote: Nice color and composition., Dan. That blasted focus thing anyway! ;-) Jack - Original Message - From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 6:03:29 PM Subject: PESO: Peach http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17788393size=md Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Orange and White
Yes, Bob, you are right. THAT'S the one I should have picked. Again, I should have gotten down closer to the ground, and I might have seen that other piece of white petal in my viewfinder. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 10:23 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Dan, On further review, the fuzzy spot looks more like you caught the edge of another flower in front of the 2nd daffodil. That 1st one is still perfect and killer sharp. Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 8:38 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Bob. I actually wanted the other bloom a bit out of focus, since it was in the corner and only partially in frame. What I am learning here, on this PESO and some other recent ones, is that I need to stop- down the aperture more on my macros. Thank you for your comments, helpful as always. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 11:03 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Dan, I appreciate the bit different composition. I wish the fuzzy spot at the bottom of the other bloom was sharp. Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 7:34 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Attila, Paul and Bruce. Paul, I thought about isolating the main bloom from the other one, and I almost plucked it on the spot, but then I decided that including part of the other bloom would make the image a bit different from all the others I was taking. I guess this proves different isn't necessarily better. ,g. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 6:29 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: It's gorgeous and the tonality is delicious, and the OOF bg to isolate really well. I find the 1/4 flower LL to be a distraction. In this case I'd prefer to see just the one isolated flower. On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 5:04 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17788391 Comments are invited Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DA* 16-50 vs DA Ltd 20-40? You decide guys
I finally bought myself a 17-70 and I think its superb. If you can forgo the f2.8 I think its totally the way to go. It has some caveats, but nothing really deal breaking for me. Its also far sharper wide open (f4 of course) compared to the 16-50. The extra 20mm or reach is extremely handy for head shots and landscapes are usable at 70mm too. On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 10:44 AM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/06/2014 3:59 PM, Tim Øsleby wrote: Long time no see. I need help from the best Pentax crew. Subject line pretty much sums it up. I know that 16 mm is wider than 20 mm, and that f:2,8 is faster than f:4. I also know that smaller and lighter is smaller and lighter. Hi Tim: I have rather limited experience with the 16-50, I was given one to use by Pentax Canada to use for a few days prior to it's release. I found it to be kind of big, kind of awkward, but optically very good. I didn't like the plastic finish, but that doesn't speak to anything beyond my questionable sense of esthetics. My understanding is that it is still having problems wit the SDM motors to this day. I bought one of the 20-40mm lenses and in many respects I like it, in some respects I don't like it. It's not huge, but it is a chunky lens. If one looks at the specifications, it is about the same size as the 31mm lens, but the specs don't tell the whole story. The 31mm lens flares out quite a bit at the front, where the lens diameter measurement is taken, but it tapers back quite a bit less than a quarter of the way back. The reality is, it is a much smaller lens than the specifications imply. The 20-40 doesn't taper, it's just a biggish lens. I like the finish of the 20-40, and the optical qualities are superb, and in keeping with the Limited optics. It has a new and improved AF motor, apparently not SDM, so hopefully it will be more reliable than the 16-60. Having said that, I don't like mine enough to actually use it, and am considering selling it. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Re: DA* 16-50 vs DA Ltd 20-40? You decide guys
I haven't tried the 20-40, much as I'd like to, but I think your choice comes down to whether you can put up with the additional size and weight of the 16-50 it's wider at the wide end and longer at the long end and faster beyond 20mm. As a working tool that makes it the clear choice for someone who has to choose between these two lenses... *unless* the size/weight factor is important. I suppose the 20-40 could possibly be better optically than the 16-50 but I can't imagine there's enough of a difference to get worked up about: The 16-50 is one of the best lenses I've ever used. Downsides of the 16-50 are the more plasticky feel of the construction (though mine's been kicked around extensively for years without a hiccup, so I don't see any durability issue) and the larger 77mm filter size. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DA* 16-50 vs DA Ltd 20-40? You decide guys
By the way: If I had money to burn I'd buy the 20-40 Limited in a heartbeat, even though I have the DA 16-50. The Limited would make an excellent middle lens to use in a 3-lens travel kit (with the DA 12-24 and the 55-300). -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I hope someone will see this be able to reply.
Steve, I might be wrong, but to set up an iCloud e-mail account you have to own (use?) one of the internet-connected Apple devices. An assumption that all people have them might not be true. E.g. in my family, the only Apple-made device is an iPod-nano (Gen. 2 or 3?) that is used as a compact source of music for my little daughter. I don't hate Apple devices, I don't even have any... (... except for a tiny iPod-nano [Gen. 3] that was given as a gift at my wife's previous work.) Actually, I came close to having an Apple ID when I bought iphones for my brother. The moron (aka personal Apple consultant) who did the sales over the phone has enabled their e-mail spam to be delivered to the e-mail account that was used to receive the receipt for the purchase. Everybody I spoke to at the Apple support told me that they cannot disable it, and the only way to do that is to actually activate the Apple online account (from the phone [that I don't have]) or possibly on the web) and to change the e-mail preferences buried in it. Instead, I set it so that, all those messages from Apple are bounced to the person with the title Apple Senior iOS Technical Support who told me that. Apple support need to enjoy Apple experience. To be fair, in general, I think Apple provides a good service for the average mass customer, and that's why they are praised and loved. If your needs are different from their vision, you may have many problems with that. I am anything but the standard user. Igor Thu Jun 12 01:42:44 EDT 2014 steve harley wrote: .. i also have Yahoo, Gmail, and iCloud email accounts that i use a bit; if you want a free service that comes with some decent extras and is not Google, iCloud's worth a try; you can do regular IMAP with any client; unlike Fastmail, iCloud has had some significant outages, but not an obnoxious number of them -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Peach
Dan, You just expressed my reaction, - regarding what I would have preferred to be in focus in this photo. Besides that, I felt like a little kid who was promised a peach and not given one. Boo! :-) But the color is indeed interesting. Cheers, Igor - Original Message - From: Daniel J. Matyola Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 6:45:31 AM Thanks, Jack! This is actually part of a series I took trying to record all the various varieties of daffodils I have in my yard. (over a dozen.) I like this image because it shows the colors best. I think I did not get down low enough, and I focused on the white petals on the left, rather than on the corona or the pistil and anthers. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 11:05 PM, Jack Davis jdavisf8 at comcast.net wrote: Nice color and composition., Dan. That blasted focus thing anyway! ;-) Jack - Original Message - From: Daniel J. Matyola danmatyola at gmail.com To: PDML pdml at pdml.net Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 6:03:29 PM Subject: PESO: Peach http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17788393size=md Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I hope someone will see this be able to reply.
Thanks. I had to post from Yahoo, and figured Gmail was going to treat it as a problem. On 6/12/2014 8:37 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: I see all three of your posts in this thread, John, but I found them in my Spam folder. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 11:09 PM, John Sessoms johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't mind paying for service. I DO mind VERY MUCH paying for service and then not getting it. I am paying for Time-Warner I'm not getting the service I pay for. I am not happy with Yahoo mail, which I also pay for. I will attempt to CALL pair.com tomorrow see if they offer the service I'm looking for at a price that I am able to afford. I'm not looking for business web hosting. On 6/11/2014 8:13 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote: As I said the last time you asked, try pair.com Not free. With free you get what you pay for. Or try earthlink if you want something more mainstream. stan On Jun 11, 2014, at 6:40 PM, John Sessoms johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote: I need a new email service provider. Time Warner's servers have been down for two days now and they have no idea if they are ever going to fix the problem. We've already been over the problems inherent in using Yahoo for email especially with a mailing list. I want POP3 or IMAP. I want a service that is reliable. And I want a service that has a competent tech support staff in case I actually need to contact them about a problem. And more than anything else, I want a service provider that will actually provide the service I pay for. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Salem witches low key rendering
I can barely make out that they're supposed to be hanging from a tree. I can see other figures in the background, but it's not clear whether they are also witches or spectators. On 6/12/2014 8:34 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: Hi Everyone: Just doing a little on the road experimenting here. I want to render these shots from the Salem Witches Museum in black and white and low key. How does the detail look in the shadows? Good? Not so good? I'm working off the iPad here and just wanted to know how it looks on your calibrated monitors. Cheers, Christine https://www.dropbox.com/s/w4rbvn4ukc7v9ry/Photo%20Jan%2021%2C%2011%2004%2013%20AM.jpg Sent from my iPad -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Peach
Thanks, Igor. The vague subject was intentional. I didn't want people to say NO, not ANOTHER flower, and pass on clicking the link. G Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote: Dan, You just expressed my reaction, - regarding what I would have preferred to be in focus in this photo. Besides that, I felt like a little kid who was promised a peach and not given one. Boo! :-) But the color is indeed interesting. Cheers, Igor - Original Message - From: Daniel J. Matyola Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 6:45:31 AM Thanks, Jack! This is actually part of a series I took trying to record all the various varieties of daffodils I have in my yard. (over a dozen.) I like this image because it shows the colors best. I think I did not get down low enough, and I focused on the white petals on the left, rather than on the corona or the pistil and anthers. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 11:05 PM, Jack Davis jdavisf8 at comcast.net wrote: Nice color and composition., Dan. That blasted focus thing anyway! ;-) Jack - Original Message - From: Daniel J. Matyola danmatyola at gmail.com To: PDML pdml at pdml.net Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 6:03:29 PM Subject: PESO: Peach http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17788393size=md Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DA* 16-50 vs DA Ltd 20-40? You decide guys
Keep in mind that if you like to stack filters on your lenses (like I do), you are likely to get vignetting with the 16-50. I don't know how the 20-40 performs in this respect, but I've never had a problem with the 16-45/4. At 11:30 AM -0400 6/13/14, Mark Roberts wrote: I haven't tried the 20-40, much as I'd like to, but I think your choice comes down to whether you can put up with the additional size and weight of the 16-50 it's wider at the wide end and longer at the long end and faster beyond 20mm. As a working tool that makes it the clear choice for someone who has to choose between these two lenses... *unless* the size/weight factor is important. I suppose the 20-40 could possibly be better optically than the 16-50 but I can't imagine there's enough of a difference to get worked up about: The 16-50 is one of the best lenses I've ever used. Downsides of the 16-50 are the more plasticky feel of the construction (though mine's been kicked around extensively for years without a hiccup, so I don't see any durability issue) and the larger 77mm filter size. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The Office Gallery - Scenic and Landscape Photography by Steve Sharpe 24 Maple Avenue Ellershouse NS B0N 1L0 d...@eastlink.ca http://earth.delith.com/photo_gallery.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - News ...
In my other trials tribulations I must have missed the shadow-under-the-nose controversy. But, if you're going for a George Hurrell look, your model is going to have to put on a LOT more makeup you're going to need to retouch the freckles on her arms neckline. And I think for a George Hurrell look that shadow should be a bit more pronounced. For my own taste, I'd retouch the freckles unless the model specifically asked that they be left. And I'd try to tone down the background around her right forearm the stool. On 6/12/2014 6:55 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: By the way, just a quick word on the shadow-under-the-nose controversy. The word is from George Hurrell, that well known Hollywood studio photographer, and it comes in the form of a publicity still he took of Lauren Bacall: http://www.doctormacro.com/Images/Bacall,%20Lauren/Bacall,%20Lauren_03.jpg Feel free to pass along fill light suggestions to Mr. Hurrell or his estate. ;-) On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: http://off-axis.brucemwalker.com/image/88382325347 Comments invited. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DA* 16-50 vs DA Ltd 20-40? You decide guys
I see you compare the size of the 20-40 with the 31 Bill. That's a zoom compared to a prime. I see it more as a compact zoom. Take a look at the top picture here comparing it to the kit lens. http://www.pentaxforums.com/reviews/hd-pentax-da-20-40mm-limited/construction-and-handling.html It is larger than the standard kit lens, but one has hood mounted, the other don't. (I rarely uses a lens without the hood mounted). I also see from the illustrations that the natural focal length is 31 mm (that's where it is most compact). That's very cool, a 31mm normal lens with zoom capabilities. BTW. I've already got the FA 20-35. I already love that lens. Except for the build quality, and lack of weather sealing. So I don't think I will feel very limited by the Ltd. All that said. I might end up buying both :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DA* 16-50 vs DA Ltd 20-40? You decide guys
Speaking of FA 20-35. Sometimes it isn't wide enough. But I don't find that a big issue. I just shoot a two vertical shots pano stitching it afterwords. -- MaritimTim My private photo blog: http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ To err is human to arr is pirate 2014-06-13 19:31 GMT+02:00 Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com: I see you compare the size of the 20-40 with the 31 Bill. That's a zoom compared to a prime. I see it more as a compact zoom. Take a look at the top picture here comparing it to the kit lens. http://www.pentaxforums.com/reviews/hd-pentax-da-20-40mm-limited/construction-and-handling.html It is larger than the standard kit lens, but one has hood mounted, the other don't. (I rarely uses a lens without the hood mounted). I also see from the illustrations that the natural focal length is 31 mm (that's where it is most compact). That's very cool, a 31mm normal lens with zoom capabilities. BTW. I've already got the FA 20-35. I already love that lens. Except for the build quality, and lack of weather sealing. So I don't think I will feel very limited by the Ltd. All that said. I might end up buying both :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DA* 16-50 vs DA Ltd 20-40? You decide guys
On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 10:44 AM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/06/2014 3:59 PM, Tim Øsleby wrote: My understanding is that it is still having problems wit the SDM motors to this day. As evident with my two bad 17-70's. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Salem witches low key rendering
Way too dark. Look at the histogram and bring the white point down. On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 12:54 PM, John sesso...@earthlink.net wrote: I can barely make out that they're supposed to be hanging from a tree. I can see other figures in the background, but it's not clear whether they are also witches or spectators. On 6/12/2014 8:34 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: Hi Everyone: Just doing a little on the road experimenting here. I want to render these shots from the Salem Witches Museum in black and white and low key. How does the detail look in the shadows? Good? Not so good? I'm working off the iPad here and just wanted to know how it looks on your calibrated monitors. Cheers, Christine https://www.dropbox.com/s/w4rbvn4ukc7v9ry/Photo%20Jan%2021%2C%2011%2004%2013%20AM.jpg Sent from my iPad -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DA* 16-50 vs DA Ltd 20-40? You decide guys
On 6/13/2014 2:02 PM, David J Brooks wrote: On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 10:44 AM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/06/2014 3:59 PM, Tim Øsleby wrote: My understanding is that it is still having problems wit the SDM motors to this day. As evident with my two bad 17-70's. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Im glad Im a manual focus shooter, having auto focus motors break on me would drive me nuts! -- J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net -- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DA* 16-50 vs DA Ltd 20-40? You decide guys
I’ve had the DA*s 16-50, 50-135, and 60-250 since shortly after their respective introductions. Never an issue with SDM. I have the 20-40 ltd. If I carry the 12-24 and the 16-50, the two together take way too much room in any of my camera bags. So the 20-40 has become my preferred travel lens if/when I am also taking the 12-24. I haven’t noticed that I have lost anything in terms of image quality when using the 20-40 in lieu of the 16-50. Obviously I lose one or more stops, a bit of reach on the long end, and a bit of width on the wide end. But I gain a more compact kit. I think I still have a slight preference for the 16-50, but that is probably due to the sentimental attachment as much as anything else. As has been recommended already, and if your budget can take it, buy both. See which one works best for you under your shooting conditions and then sell the other one. Consider any loss on the transaction to be a “short term rental” expense. Or, as a variation on the theme, see if you can find an actual rental place that has the 20-40, try it out for a weekend or two. You already know the 16-50... stan On Jun 13, 2014, at 1:31 PM, Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com wrote: I see you compare the size of the 20-40 with the 31 Bill. That's a zoom compared to a prime. I see it more as a compact zoom. Take a look at the top picture here comparing it to the kit lens. http://www.pentaxforums.com/reviews/hd-pentax-da-20-40mm-limited/construction-and-handling.html It is larger than the standard kit lens, but one has hood mounted, the other don't. (I rarely uses a lens without the hood mounted). I also see from the illustrations that the natural focal length is 31 mm (that's where it is most compact). That's very cool, a 31mm normal lens with zoom capabilities. BTW. I've already got the FA 20-35. I already love that lens. Except for the build quality, and lack of weather sealing. So I don't think I will feel very limited by the Ltd. All that said. I might end up buying both :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Let's see if this works
That's not as bad a suggestion as it at first sounds, thought it's still bad. Microsoft in their infinite wisdom put a lot of stuff into IE that should have stayed in the rest of the OS. However if you can use another e-mail client to connect to a different e-mail server then the problem isn't on you end and reinstalling IE will do nothing for you. On 6/12/2014 3:33 PM, John wrote: Thanks for the responses. I wasn't sure I'd found the correct setting for plain text only. If I can ever get back into my Time-Warner account, I'm going to set up a forward file. They're having latency problems. Must be really bad latency since I haven't been able to sign in since last Monday. Their technical support is a piece of shit. The latest suggested fix is I should reinstall Internet Explorer. On 6/12/2014 2:30 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Works for me! Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 1:53 PM, John sesso...@earthlink.net wrote: I have a new Earthlink email address. Used it to subscribe to the list, and now I'm trying to configure it. -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, crazier. - H.L.Mencken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: The Visitor
It should really be on a shiny stainless steel table to have the correct effect. On 6/12/2014 4:40 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: If you like that, you should like my alien autopsy image: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17788237 Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 3:47 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: Good one, Dan ann On 6/12/2014 09:47, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Undocumented Aliens are a big problem in our area: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17788240 K-5IIs, 35mm F2.8 macro limited Comments are invited. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, crazier. - H.L.Mencken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Peach
That's quite a pair. On 6/12/2014 9:03 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17788393size=md Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, crazier. - H.L.Mencken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Peach
Did you're wife tell you that? ;-)) Jack - Original Message - From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 7:48:50 AM Subject: Re: PESO: Peach Oh, that's my problem, I guess. I'm not constant. Or Consistent. or convicted. G Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote: Yes, I see, Dan. Picking the right aperture to either blur out a busy background or include an additional more distant element, is a photo constant. Jack - Original Message - From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 6:45:31 AM Subject: Re: PESO: Peach Thanks, Jack! This is actually part of a series I took trying to record all the various varieties of daffodils I have in my yard. (over a dozen.) I like this image because it shows the colors best. I think I did not get down low enough, and I focused on the white petals on the left, rather than on the corona or the pistil and anthers. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 11:05 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote: Nice color and composition., Dan. That blasted focus thing anyway! ;-) Jack - Original Message - From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 6:03:29 PM Subject: PESO: Peach http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17788393size=md Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another one bites the dust -- Ilford
Wed Jun 11 19:05:28 EDT 2014 Matthew Hunt wrote: On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 6:59 PM, Mark Roberts postmaster at robertstech.com wrote: My Spousal Unit watches true-crime shows on TV, and the law enforcement officers they interview are apparently paid by the syllable. My favorite redundancy from this evening's episode: It tested positive for male semen. Technically, sperm that carries a Y chromosome could be said to be male sperm and that with an X chromosome could be said to be a female sperm. But I don't think that's what they meant :) Sorting it on the fly would be an impressive party trick. Sorting anything on a fly? - That's either tricky or kinky. ;-) (``It depends on what the meaning of the ... is.'' - almost a quotation.) Cheers! Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: The Visitor
Well, I didn't have a shiny stainless steel table on hand. If you have one, could you send it to me? Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 3:41 PM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: It should really be on a shiny stainless steel table to have the correct effect. On 6/12/2014 4:40 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: If you like that, you should like my alien autopsy image: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17788237 Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 3:47 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: Good one, Dan ann On 6/12/2014 09:47, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Undocumented Aliens are a big problem in our area: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17788240 K-5IIs, 35mm F2.8 macro limited Comments are invited. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, crazier. - H.L.Mencken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - provincial life on the water
This photo taken in Victoria, BC, Canada last month is nothing special, but it keep catching my attention: http://42graphy.org/galleries/2014-victoria/_IR07965.html This is actually a very touristy [or touristic, depending on the part of the world where you are] place, Fisherman's Wharf, from which the recently posted photos of the seals were taken. Comments are invited! Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - provincial life on the water
It is actually quite nice -- atmospheric, I would say. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 4:31 PM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote: This photo taken in Victoria, BC, Canada last month is nothing special, but it keep catching my attention: http://42graphy.org/galleries/2014-victoria/_IR07965.html This is actually a very touristy [or touristic, depending on the part of the world where you are] place, Fisherman's Wharf, from which the recently posted photos of the seals were taken. Comments are invited! Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Peach
On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 3:44 PM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: That's quite a pair. UP IN THE AIR Oh, I was married up in the air, and I've been up in the air ever since. She went up a peach, we came down a pear, but now the apple of my eye is but a lemon I swear. Oh, I was married up in the air, and I've been up in the air ever since. Old aviators' drinking song. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another one bites the dust -- Ilford
My Spousal Unit watches true-crime shows on TV, and the law enforcement officers they interview are apparently paid by the syllable. My favorite redundancy from this evening's episode: It tested positive for male semen. Technically, sperm that carries a Y chromosome could be said to be male sperm and that with an X chromosome could be said to be a female sperm. But I don't think that's what they meant :) Sorting it on the fly would be an impressive party trick. I never get invited to parties like those. If I invited you would you come? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Let's see if this works
On 12/6/14, John, discombobulated, unleashed: I have a new Earthlink email address. Used it to subscribe to the list, and now I'm trying to configure it. (I'll yank his damn chain) I think Gmail would be better for you. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Let's see if this works
On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 6:42 PM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: (I'll yank his damn chain) Mark never gets invited to parties like those. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Mackinac Island Trip
I'll second Rock Arch and the Grand Hotel. Fort Mackinac can be interesting (there is another fort across the straights in Mackinaw City). There is a section of the beach where the water is Caribbean blue / green that I always thought was interesting. The state park offers some natural areas that I have enjoyed shooting in - but that is catch as you can depending on the day and the season. If you are going to Mackinac Island you will no doubt pass the bridge and that offers some nice photo ops as well - it is the longest suspension bridge is the western hemisphere, though the part that is actually held up by cables shorter than the golden gate bridge, if I remember my Michigan trivia correctly. IIRC, there is a park on the U.P. side to the west of the bridge that is easy to get to. When I was a kid my family took a few vacations to Mackinac Island, Mackinaw City and St. Ignace. The Lil Abner themed restaurant in St. Ignace was still there the last time I passed through a few years ago... On 6/12/2014 4:15 PM, Don Guthrie wrote: I will be on Mackinac Island environs next week. Any suggestions as to photo ops. I don't want the wrath of this group for having missed the shot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DA* 16-50 vs DA Ltd 20-40?
Consider this fact on my go-to lens . . . the 16-50 . . . The focus motor has been replaced twice. I don't shoot every day, and when I do, rarely more than 500 snaps. So, set aside some money for repairs. The last motor, last year, I pointedly asked for a little relief from Ricoh. They said Rico-diculous! G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO -- Fog Offshore
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20fogoffshore.html Equipment: Pentax K-5II w/smc Pentax FA 43mm f1.9 Limited. As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, crazier. - H.L.Mencken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- Fog Offshore
Strong mood. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 8:30 PM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20fogoffshore.html Equipment: Pentax K-5II w/smc Pentax FA 43mm f1.9 Limited. As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, crazier. - H.L.Mencken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
DA* 16-50 vs DA Ltd 20-40? You decide guys
so I bought a third lens instead, spending as much as the two would have cost! That would have cost you over $ 2300 Dan. This must be a superb lens. Curious to know what lens this one is? Regards. Bipin camp: Thornhill, Ontario. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - weak strength (for linguistic nerds)
on 2014-06-11 23:46 Igor Roshchin wrote For you, linquistic nerd fellows: I just saw this phrase on Panera Bread site: You have a weak strength password that means it should be easy to unlock your strength -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DA* 16-50 vs DA Ltd 20-40? You decide guys
Also the 20-35mm is a constant aperture, which makes strobest style photography a bit easier. On 6/13/2014 1:36 PM, Tim Øsleby wrote: Speaking of FA 20-35. Sometimes it isn't wide enough. But I don't find that a big issue. I just shoot a two vertical shots pano stitching it afterwords. -- MaritimTim My private photo blog: http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ To err is human to arr is pirate 2014-06-13 19:31 GMT+02:00 Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com: I see you compare the size of the 20-40 with the 31 Bill. That's a zoom compared to a prime. I see it more as a compact zoom. Take a look at the top picture here comparing it to the kit lens. http://www.pentaxforums.com/reviews/hd-pentax-da-20-40mm-limited/construction-and-handling.html It is larger than the standard kit lens, but one has hood mounted, the other don't. (I rarely uses a lens without the hood mounted). I also see from the illustrations that the natural focal length is 31 mm (that's where it is most compact). That's very cool, a 31mm normal lens with zoom capabilities. BTW. I've already got the FA 20-35. I already love that lens. Except for the build quality, and lack of weather sealing. So I don't think I will feel very limited by the Ltd. All that said. I might end up buying both :-) -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, crazier. - H.L.Mencken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Travel monitor for a mac mini?
on 2014-06-11 2:52 Larry Colen wrote The ideal display for taking my computer on the road would probably be the equivalent of a standalone 15” retina display. i think you are shooting a bit high; if it existed price would be high, plus the Mini wouldn't scale UI elements appropriately (as the OS knows to do on real retina displays) Does anyone have suggestions for a relatively inexpensive solution for that? assuming it has HDMI, that would suggest what to look for … e.g. this, probably smaller than you want: http://smile.amazon.com/Lilliput-663-Monitor-Camcorder-IPS-viewing/dp/B00CE7SC66 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: The Visitor
I had an opportunity to buy one when my dog's vet replaced all the free standing examination tables with units attached to the walls, but I couldn't figure out how I'd explain it to guests... On 6/13/2014 4:22 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Well, I didn't have a shiny stainless steel table on hand. If you have one, could you send it to me? Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 3:41 PM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: It should really be on a shiny stainless steel table to have the correct effect. On 6/12/2014 4:40 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: If you like that, you should like my alien autopsy image: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17788237 Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 3:47 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: Good one, Dan ann On 6/12/2014 09:47, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Undocumented Aliens are a big problem in our area: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17788240 K-5IIs, 35mm F2.8 macro limited Comments are invited. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, crazier. - H.L.Mencken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, crazier. - H.L.Mencken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- Fog Offshore
Nice, P.J. nice mood, nice balance of elements - well did I mention nice? ann On 6/13/2014 20:30, P.J. Alling wrote: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20fogoffshore.html Equipment: Pentax K-5II w/smc Pentax FA 43mm f1.9 Limited. As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Salem witches low key rendering
Since it all seems to be shadow, (low key is an understatement), the detail is, well, there. On the white default dropbox screen I can make out two main figures and parts of what may be three more. I downloaded it and using a different view with a black background, I can clearly make out three figures and what looks like parts of two more with a fair amount of detail. On 6/12/2014 8:34 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: Hi Everyone: Just doing a little on the road experimenting here. I want to render these shots from the Salem Witches Museum in black and white and low key. How does the detail look in the shadows? Good? Not so good? I'm working off the iPad here and just wanted to know how it looks on your calibrated monitors. Cheers, Christine https://www.dropbox.com/s/w4rbvn4ukc7v9ry/Photo%20Jan%2021%2C%2011%2004%2013%20AM.jpg Sent from my iPad -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, crazier. - H.L.Mencken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DA* 16-50 vs DA Ltd 20-40? You decide guys
On Jun 12, 2014, at 2:59 PM, Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com wrote: Long time no see. I need help from the best Pentax crew. Subject line pretty much sums it up. I know that 16 mm is wider than 20 mm, and that f:2,8 is faster than f:4. I also know that smaller and lighter is smaller and lighter. I pretty much know the good and the bads of the 16-50. I've got one at my desk, that has served me well for about 5 years, but alas not any more. I know little a about how the Ltd performs. So how do they compare int the IQ department? And what about AF speed? My min complaint about the 16-50 was that it had trouble finding focus when shooting fast moving music performers. Is the Ltd better at that? Have you had problems with the 16-50 being too big and heavy? Or not sharp enough? Having a 16-50, and surprised at how much I use it, I don’t feel any draw to the 20-40, there are many other more compelling holes in the capabilities of my lens collection. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Travel monitor for a mac mini?
I think that this is pretty close to what I want: https://www.adafruit.com/products/1652 On Jun 13, 2014, at 6:03 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: on 2014-06-11 2:52 Larry Colen wrote The ideal display for taking my computer on the road would probably be the equivalent of a standalone 15” retina display. i think you are shooting a bit high; if it existed price would be high, plus the Mini wouldn't scale UI elements appropriately (as the OS knows to do on real retina displays) Does anyone have suggestions for a relatively inexpensive solution for that? assuming it has HDMI, that would suggest what to look for … e.g. this, probably smaller than you want: http://smile.amazon.com/Lilliput-663-Monitor-Camcorder-IPS-viewing/dp/B00CE7SC66 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - News ...
On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 1:13 PM, John sesso...@earthlink.net wrote: In my other trials tribulations I must have missed the shadow-under-the-nose controversy. Blink and you miss 'em. But, if you're going for a George Hurrell look, your model is going to have to put on a LOT more makeup you're going to need to retouch the freckles on her arms neckline. And I think for a George Hurrell look that shadow should be a bit more pronounced. I wasn't going for the Hurrell look. Just a portrait, but with strong features like emphasized cheekbones, so I was looking for stronger shadows. For my own taste, I'd retouch the freckles unless the model specifically asked that they be left. And I'd try to tone down the background around her right forearm the stool. These shots were for my testing and practice, and her modelling and acting portfolio. I removed all the transient blemishes (pimples, whiteheads, redness, etc.). Were I shooting for fashion or beauty I'd have retouched further. And for Patri's use, representative shots are probably more valuable to a casting director. Thanks for looking and commenting, John! On 6/12/2014 6:55 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: By the way, just a quick word on the shadow-under-the-nose controversy. The word is from George Hurrell, that well known Hollywood studio photographer, and it comes in the form of a publicity still he took of Lauren Bacall: http://www.doctormacro.com/Images/Bacall,%20Lauren/Bacall,%20Lauren_03.jpg Feel free to pass along fill light suggestions to Mr. Hurrell or his estate. ;-) On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: http://off-axis.brucemwalker.com/image/88382325347 Comments invited. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Bye, Students!
We have 3 universities in a 1 mile radius. Things get messy in late May with Move-Out: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17789144size=lg or http://gallery.photo.net/photo/17789144-lg.jpg (K-5, DA40 ltd) It was the banana peel that really got me... Comments appreciated! Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DA* 16-50 vs DA Ltd 20-40? You decide guys
I never said I was looking at the same lenses you were looking at. In any event it was a 35 limited macro. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 8:41 PM, Bipin Gupta bip...@gmail.com wrote: so I bought a third lens instead, spending as much as the two would have cost! That would have cost you over $ 2300 Dan. This must be a superb lens. Curious to know what lens this one is? Regards. Bipin camp: Thornhill, Ontario. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Salem witches low key rendering
Thanks everyone for the feedback--very much appreciated. And big thanks Godfrey for your rendering and curves map! I'll try that on Photogene since I have it on the tablet. Cheers, Christine Sent from my iPad On Jun 13, 2014, at 9:09 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com wrote: Very dark on my iPad. I did an adjustment with Photogene: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/hoyp3vdozizm416/AAAnAO7AMXV-aFvbvZc_NJBoa That looks good to my eye! Turn down the brightness on your iPad! :-) Godfrey On Jun 12, 2014, at 6:12 PM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: Thanks everyone. It's really interesting because I am getting detail in the shadows on my iPad. It will be interesting what I see on the desktop at home. Glad I tested it out with you guys. Cheers, Christine Sent from my iPad On Jun 12, 2014, at 9:04 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: That's _really_ dark, Christine. Lightest pixels must be around 1/2 intensity. Detail In shadows: none. Figures visible, as Dan says. On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 8:34 PM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: Hi Everyone: Just doing a little on the road experimenting here. I want to render these shots from the Salem Witches Museum in black and white and low key. How does the detail look in the shadows? Good? Not so good? I'm working off the iPad here and just wanted to know how it looks on your calibrated monitors. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
