Re: PESO - Parliament Square with link

2016-11-28 Thread Alan C
Easy on the eye. Not over the top with glass. Actually an impressive piece 
of architecture.


Alan C

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and the link to the photo

https://flic.kr/p/PGpQrc

Philip Northeast

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On 29/11/16 11:16 am, Philip Northeast wrote:

A new building, part of the Parliament Square project in Hobart.

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Re: PESO: Galvanized Skink

2016-11-28 Thread Philip Northeast

Looks bigger than our skinks in Tasmania. Ours are boring dark grey.

Nice shot


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On 29/11/16 6:41 pm, Alan C wrote:

A large skink basking in the early morning sun. It obviously knows
something about the laws of physics.

Alan C

https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/31275448376/

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PESO: Galvanized Skink

2016-11-28 Thread Alan C
A large skink basking in the early morning sun. It obviously knows something 
about the laws of physics.


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RE: DFA 150-450

2016-11-28 Thread Malcolm Smith
Jack Davis wrote:

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1133
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That's nice Jack.

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RE: PESO - Parliament Square with link

2016-11-28 Thread Malcolm Smith
Philip Northeast wrote:

https://flic.kr/p/PGpQrc
++

Interesting building, surprising design with the lower amount of glass.

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RE: PESO - Play Date

2016-11-28 Thread Malcolm Smith
Rick Womer wrote:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18295150&size=lg
+++

Certainly very different from the women I met on the school run!  I used to
see them in a rush to work, often still eating breakfast whilst dropping
them off at nursery/school. Great capture.

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Re: PESO - Play Date

2016-11-28 Thread Alan C
An interesting scene - how hot (the weather, not the chicks)?  Considering 
their attire, shoes & the baby joggers, I'd wager they're about to set off 
on a quick 10Km. I see one has the baby on her back in true African style.


Alan C

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Subject: PESO - Play Date

In Balboa Park, San Diego on a warm fall morning:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18295150&size=lg

(K-5, DA 50-200)

Comments appreciated.

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Re: Peso-Ring Bill Gull

2016-11-28 Thread Jack Davis

Well put, Mike/
J

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Subject: RE: Peso-Ring Bill Gull

> On 28 November 2016 at 18:02 Malcolm Smith  wrote:
> 
> 
> Jack Davis wrote:
> 
> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1132
> ++
> 
> Curious bokeh on the vegetation. Nice gull!

Looks more like some sort of processing artefact.

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Re: Process & Scan

2016-11-28 Thread Zos Xavius
And that was supposed to be in response to Collin not John. Sorry about that.

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Re: Process & Scan

2016-11-28 Thread Zos Xavius
They are west coast but, North Coast Photo Services (NCPS). The same
place Ken Rockwell recommends. Their work is professional and top
notch. Their pricing is fairly reasonable too.

On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 6:30 PM, Collin Brendemuehl
 wrote:
>>Let me know if you find one. The lab that I used to use for E6 stopped
>
>>doing it. They only do C41 & traditional B&W now.
>
>>
>
>>Plus, they lost their lease & I don't know if they're going to reopen in
>
>>a new location or not.
>
>
>
> John,
>
> I was just steered to this lab.
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Re: Peso-Ring Bill Gull

2016-11-28 Thread Jack Davis
Surely!

J


Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 28, 2016, at 11:10 AM, Alan C  wrote:
> 
> If the gull opens its beak, the rings will surely dissipate.
> 
> Alan C
> 
> -Original Message- From: P.J. Alling
> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 8:21 PM
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> Subject: Re: Peso-Ring Bill Gull
> 
>> On 11/28/2016 1:02 PM, Malcolm Smith wrote:
>> Jack Davis wrote:
>> 
>> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1132
>> ++
>> 
>> Curious bokeh on the vegetation. Nice gull!
>> 
>> Malcolm
> 
> Looks like ring bokeh.
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Re: PESO - Lakeside

2016-11-28 Thread Mark Roberts
Marco Alpert wrote:

>You’ve said above that the *photographer* makes choices (which I guess you 
>equate with “value judgements”). 

I agree. The *photographer* makes the choices and value judgments. The
photograph doesn't.
 
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PESO - Play Date

2016-11-28 Thread Rick Womer
In Balboa Park, San Diego on a warm fall morning:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18295150&size=lg

(K-5, DA 50-200)

Comments appreciated.

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Re: PESO - Lakeside

2016-11-28 Thread Subash Jeyan
On Mon, 28 Nov 2016 18:38:19 +
Bob W-PDML  wrote:

> On 28 Nov 2016, at 17:57, Larry Colen  wrote:
> > 
> > Jostein Øksne wrote:  
> >> I remember one time way back in the gelatine days of photography,
> >> that a guy called Shel Belinkoff posted a thematically similar
> >> photo. It triggered one of the most on-topic flame wars we ever
> >> had.
> >> 
> >> With this photo, I get the feeling of observing a vulnerable
> >> person exposed in a vulnerable moment. I tend to side with Ann in
> >> finding it crossing a fine line of something negative. Indecency,
> >> maybe. Jostein  
> > 
> > I think that Marco should change his name to Rorschach. If you
> > don't find anything wrong with someone being fat, there is nothing
> > to criticize in the photo. Also note that what she is eating is an
> > apple, something people attempting to lose weight often eat as they
> > can be filling without a high caloric load.
> > 
> > This is exactly the problem with street photography, the photograph
> > itself is making no value judgement, however the people looking at
> > it are free to be as judgmental as they want. 
> 
> That's rubbish, and you know it. The photographer chooses which
> pictures to take, and then chooses whether or not to show them, then
> chooses how they are shown. Every photograph anyone ever took makes
> many value judgements.

rather like the  classic realism novel which, while presenting itself as
portraying reality, is actually a series of selected slices arranged
in a way that it represents specific world views. recently i saw the
documentary 'the many lives of william klein' (had never heard of him
before) and i found him refreshing because of the ways in which he
makes the photographer's presence felt, by making the 'artifice'
explicit. there is a particularly revealing comparison in the movie
between klein and HCB, where the latter is referred to as a 'ghost' that
i found fascinating.

i find Marco's photographs fascinating and never skip a PESO of his but
i tend to agree with Ann and Bob on this particular one.

~subash

> 
> B
> >   
> >> 
> >> Den 28. november 2016 15.51.08 CET, skrev ann
> >> sanfedele:  
> >>> It's complicated, but I certainly mocked obesity in some street
> >>> photos in the past and I feel bad about it now... though I worry
> >>> about friends
> >>> 
> >>> who are from a health perspective..
> >>> She also actually has food in her mouth and that is always
> >>> something I turn away from no matter who is eating..
> >>> 
> >>> ann
> >>>   
>  On 11/28/2016 12:09 AM, Marco Alpert wrote:
>  Hmm… Interested in how you define “this kind of shot.”
>  
>  m
>  
>    
> > On Nov 27, 2016, at 12:01 PM, ann sanfedele  
> >>> wrote:  
> > Yes - I doubt that sadly overweight young woman would enjoy
> > seeing  
> >>> this..  
> > I've taken this kind of shot in the past, I'll admit..  but now
> > I  
> >>> find it difficult to look at... rather like facebook shaming..  
> > ann
> >   
> >> On 11/27/2016 2:53 PM, Marco Alpert wrote:
> >> Mean?
> >> 
> >> m
> >>   
> >>> On Nov 26, 2016, at 5:03 PM, ann
> >>> sanfedele  
> >>> wrote:  
> >>> Now that's just mean..
> >>> 
> >>> ann
> >>> 
> >>>   
>  On 11/26/2016 4:47 PM, Marco Alpert wrote:
>  http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo16/peso34.html
>  
>  Comments, as always, welcomed.
>  
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Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'

2016-11-28 Thread ann sanfedele

Well If I had jsut said "Michigan" I woudl have won :-(  (on second guess)

The U P is the "Upper Penisula" of MIchigan - and if more of you sots 
knew where Ken lives this wouldnt avhe been any fun at all...


Alaska is the red herring, since he has photographed much and wonderfully

ann


On 11/28/2016 5:38 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

U P??

I thought that was Union Pacific.  I know it's a big organisation but I
didn't realise it had achieved Statehood...


Cheers

Brian

++
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Western Sydney Australia
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On Tue, Nov 29, 2016, at 08:02 AM, Ken Waller wrote:

Ding, ding, ding
It's not Wisconsin, but you came the closest Ann, while the U P is in
Michigan this sign is about 180 miles north west of Detroit in the Lower
Peninsula of Michigan on my way to Traverse City. Black bears are very
common in the north west part of the state. We've had one visit my condo
about 4 miles north of
Traverse City.


-Original Message-

From: ann sanfedele 
Sent: Nov 28, 2016 9:58 AM
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Subject: Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'

I'm trying tow ake up really...

OK if the UP was close, (Bob, that is MIchigan) how about Wisconsin?

can I redeem myself?

ann


On 11/28/2016 9:46 AM, Ken Waller wrote:

Ann, it is a border state as stated awhile back...


-Original Message-

From: ann sanfedele 
Sent: Nov 28, 2016 9:38 AM
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Subject: Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'

Malcolm - Montana borders Canada all along it's northermost border..

My two guesses that border Canada were made before I saw him say it
wasn't a border state... I made a third guess after that - somewhat based on

where I saw Ken in person

ann


On 11/28/2016 2:23 AM, Malcolm Smith wrote:

Ken Waller wrote:

Thanks for commenting Jack, Malcolm, John and Paul but you guys offered no
guess as to where the sign might be.

Hint !  It is in the continental U. S. and does border Canada.
+++

Montana?

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Re: PESO - Parliament Square with link

2016-11-28 Thread Philip Northeast

and the link to the photo

https://flic.kr/p/PGpQrc

Philip Northeast

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On 29/11/16 11:16 am, Philip Northeast wrote:

A new building, part of the Parliament Square project in Hobart.

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PESO - parliament Square

2016-11-28 Thread Philip Northeast

A new building, part of the Parliament Square project in Hobart.

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DFA 150-450

2016-11-28 Thread Jack Davis


This is the second shot I've posted which was made using my newly acquired 
subject lens.
The first was of a sitting gull and titled, Ring Bill Gull.
Messy composition.
Mounted on the K-3.

C&C?

J

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Re: Process & Scan

2016-11-28 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
>Let me know if you find one. The lab that I used to use for E6 stopped

>doing it. They only do C41 & traditional B&W now.

> 

>Plus, they lost their lease & I don't know if they're going to reopen in

>a new location or not.

 

John,

I was just steered to this lab.

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K1 firmware 1.40

2016-11-28 Thread Philip Northeast

The K1 is now up to version 1.40


http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/support/digital/k1.html

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Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'

2016-11-28 Thread Brian Walters
U P??

I thought that was Union Pacific.  I know it's a big organisation but I
didn't realise it had achieved Statehood...


Cheers

Brian

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On Tue, Nov 29, 2016, at 08:02 AM, Ken Waller wrote:
> Ding, ding, ding 
> It's not Wisconsin, but you came the closest Ann, while the U P is in
> Michigan this sign is about 180 miles north west of Detroit in the Lower
> Peninsula of Michigan on my way to Traverse City. Black bears are very
> common in the north west part of the state. We've had one visit my condo
> about 4 miles north of 
> Traverse City.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> >From: ann sanfedele 
> >Sent: Nov 28, 2016 9:58 AM
> >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> >Subject: Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'
> >
> >I'm trying tow ake up really...
> >
> >OK if the UP was close, (Bob, that is MIchigan) how about Wisconsin?
> >
> >can I redeem myself?
> >
> >ann
> >
> >
> >On 11/28/2016 9:46 AM, Ken Waller wrote:
> >> Ann, it is a border state as stated awhile back...
> >>
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >>> From: ann sanfedele 
> >>> Sent: Nov 28, 2016 9:38 AM
> >>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> >>> Subject: Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'
> >>>
> >>> Malcolm - Montana borders Canada all along it's northermost border..
> >>>
> >>> My two guesses that border Canada were made before I saw him say it
> >>> wasn't a border state... I made a third guess after that - somewhat based 
> >>> on
> >>>
> >>> where I saw Ken in person
> >>>
> >>> ann
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 11/28/2016 2:23 AM, Malcolm Smith wrote:
>  Ken Waller wrote:
> 
>  Thanks for commenting Jack, Malcolm, John and Paul but you guys offered 
>  no
>  guess as to where the sign might be.
> 
>  Hint !  It is in the continental U. S. and does border Canada.
>  +++
> 
>  Montana?
> 
>  Malcolm
> 
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Re: Peso-Ring Bill Gull

2016-11-28 Thread Jack Davis
Well, in fact I found some areas of the
gull clipped. I added some faint shadows, but then decided to restore
most of the white.
That's how it got to it's present tone. 

J

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> On Nov 28, 2016, at 2:00 PM, John  wrote:
> 
> On 11/28/2016 1:10 PM, mike wilson wrote:
>>> On 28 November 2016 at 18:02 Malcolm Smith  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Jack Davis wrote:
>>> 
>>> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1132
>>> ++
>>> 
>>> Curious bokeh on the vegetation. Nice gull!
>> 
>> Looks more like some sort of processing artefact.
>> 
> 
> Looks to me like the camera meter rendered the gull at 18% gray & making
> the gull white in post pushed the OOF vegetation too far.
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Re: PESO - Lakeside

2016-11-28 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 28/11/16, Marco Alpert, discombobulated, unleashed:

>presumptuous.

Bob? Bob Walkden??

Must be an imposter

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Re: Process & Scan

2016-11-28 Thread John

Let me know if you find one. The lab that I used to use for E6 stopped
doing it. They only do C41 & traditional B&W now.

Plus, they lost their lease & I don't know if they're going to reopen in
a new location or not.

On 11/28/2016 3:13 PM, Collin B wrote:

Anyone have a preferred shop (would like eastern US) for E6 process & scan?




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Re: Peso-Ring Bill Gull

2016-11-28 Thread John

On 11/28/2016 1:10 PM, mike wilson wrote:

On 28 November 2016 at 18:02 Malcolm Smith  wrote:


Jack Davis wrote:

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1132
++

Curious bokeh on the vegetation. Nice gull!


Looks more like some sort of processing artefact.



Looks to me like the camera meter rendered the gull at 18% gray & making
the gull white in post pushed the OOF vegetation too far.


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Re: Pesos For tje bords

2016-11-28 Thread John

I recognized "tje" as "the", because it's something I frequently get
when I type too fast.

"Bords" I read as "boards", as in "message boards", aka discussion groups.

Sometimes the brain doesn't want to give you the word you want, so it
made sense to me as "Pesos For the boards" (where boards = PDML).

On 11/28/2016 10:05 AM, P.J. Alling wrote:

For a second there, I was afraid you'd had a stroke.

I understand your pain.

At least Dave Brookes could probably decode what you typed with no
problem...

On 11/27/2016 7:10 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Good God, why don’t I read what I post before I hit send?

The subject line was supposed to be “For the Birds.” Not very original
but better than For tje bords. Where is autocorrect when I need it?
The copy should have said, “I went out late in the day with my K-1,
tripod, DF A 150-450 and  A 2X S converter, and shot some little
birds. These are pushed pretty hard to about ISO 25,600 and cropped
tight but still fun to shoot.


On Nov 27, 2016, at 6:54 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:

Went p ut late in the day with y K-1 trips, DF A 150-450. A 2Xs
comforter and hot some little birds. The are pushed pretty hard,
about ISO 25,600 and tight crops, but still fun to shoot.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18315490&size=lg
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18315489&size=lg

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Re: PESO - The Haps

2016-11-28 Thread ann sanfedele

That we don't know what they are looking at is part of the magic here -

Now this is a Marco shot Ilove - as most of them are...

ann



On 11/28/2016 4:17 PM, Philip Northeast wrote:

But what are they looking at?  Interesting.

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Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'

2016-11-28 Thread Gonz
Wait... you said Montana was "close"...

On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 3:48 PM, John  wrote:
> I thought Alaska, so if I *had* guessed, I would have been wrong.
>
> On 11/28/2016 12:05 AM, Ken Waller wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for commenting Jack, Malcolm, John and Paul but you guys offered
>> no guess as to where the sign might be.
>>
>> Hint !  It is in the continental U. S. and does border Canada.
>>
>> Kenneth Waller
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "Jack Davis" 
>> Subject: Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'
>>
>>
>>>
>>> DoF did a pleasing job on the background!
>>>
>>> J
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Ken Waller" 
>>> To: "pentax list" 
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 12:26:10 PM
>>> Subject: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'
>>>
>>> An unusual sign I haven't seen before. Notice its bear, not bare. I've
>>> been
>>> in all the United States
>>> and don't recall seeing one before.
>>>
>>> Where was it taken ?
>>>
>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18315060
>>>
>>> Kenneth Waller
>>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
>>
>>
>>
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Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'

2016-11-28 Thread ann sanfedele
IN my defense (which is prety defenseless cause I mis reaad the original 
post)  I picked Wis as it isnt touching the border...


well a minor ding then - I'll take it

ann


On 11/28/2016 4:02 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

Ding, ding, ding
It's not Wisconsin, but you came the closest Ann, while the U P is in Michigan 
this sign is about 180 miles north west of Detroit in the Lower Peninsula of 
Michigan on my way to Traverse City. Black bears are very common in the north 
west part of the state. We've had one visit my condo about 4 miles north of
Traverse City.


-Original Message-

From: ann sanfedele 
Sent: Nov 28, 2016 9:58 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
Subject: Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'

I'm trying tow ake up really...

OK if the UP was close, (Bob, that is MIchigan) how about Wisconsin?

can I redeem myself?

ann


On 11/28/2016 9:46 AM, Ken Waller wrote:

Ann, it is a border state as stated awhile back...


-Original Message-

From: ann sanfedele 
Sent: Nov 28, 2016 9:38 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
Subject: Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'

Malcolm - Montana borders Canada all along it's northermost border..

My two guesses that border Canada were made before I saw him say it
wasn't a border state... I made a third guess after that - somewhat based on

where I saw Ken in person

ann


On 11/28/2016 2:23 AM, Malcolm Smith wrote:

Ken Waller wrote:

Thanks for commenting Jack, Malcolm, John and Paul but you guys offered no
guess as to where the sign might be.

Hint !  It is in the continental U. S. and does border Canada.
+++

Montana?

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Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'

2016-11-28 Thread John

I thought Alaska, so if I *had* guessed, I would have been wrong.

On 11/28/2016 12:05 AM, Ken Waller wrote:

Thanks for commenting Jack, Malcolm, John and Paul but you guys offered
no guess as to where the sign might be.

Hint !  It is in the continental U. S. and does border Canada.

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- Original Message - From: "Jack Davis" 
Subject: Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'




DoF did a pleasing job on the background!

J

- Original Message -
From: "Ken Waller" 
To: "pentax list" 
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 12:26:10 PM
Subject: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'

An unusual sign I haven't seen before. Notice its bear, not bare. I've
been
in all the United States
and don't recall seeing one before.

Where was it taken ?

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18315060

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Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'

2016-11-28 Thread John

Where I've seen them in eastern North Carolina (around the Pocosin Lakes
NWR), they're not there for the benefit of environmentalists, but for
motorists.

They have the same purpose as "Deer Xing" signs - to warn drivers
because hitting a deer (or a bear) can cause significant damage to your
vehicle, and might cause injury to passengers.

On 11/28/2016 12:03 AM, Alan C wrote:

Obviously in Bear country but it could be in many places I suppose.
Those sort of signs are testament to the innovation of environmentalists
where there is cause for concern. You won't find them in official
handbooks. I can think of 3 ad hoc signs from around here. 1. "Hippo"
signs after a couple of accidents at night. 2. A "Crocodile" sign at
Tzaneen (N of here) after one was run over. & 3. A "Birds - Slow" sign S
of here where, for some reason, a lot of birds, especially doves,
congregate on the road. Some people do care & one hopes the drivers take
note.

Alan C

-Original Message- From: Ken Waller
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 10:26 PM
To: pentax list
Subject: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'

An unusual sign I haven't seen before. Notice its bear, not bare. I've been
in all the United States
and don't recall seeing one before.

Where was it taken ?

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18315060

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Re: PESO - Lakeside

2016-11-28 Thread Ken Waller
Totally agree Bob.


-Original Message-
>From: Bob W-PDML 
>Sent: Nov 28, 2016 1:38 PM
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>Subject: Re: PESO - Lakeside
>
>On 28 Nov 2016, at 17:57, Larry Colen  wrote:
>> 
>> Jostein Øksne wrote:
>>> I remember one time way back in the gelatine days of photography, that a 
>>> guy called Shel Belinkoff posted a thematically similar photo. It triggered 
>>> one of the most on-topic flame wars we ever had.
>>> 
>>> With this photo, I get the feeling of observing a vulnerable person exposed 
>>> in a vulnerable moment. I tend to side with Ann in finding it crossing a 
>>> fine line of something negative. Indecency, maybe.
>>> Jostein
>> 
>> I think that Marco should change his name to Rorschach. If you don't find 
>> anything wrong with someone being fat, there is nothing to criticize in the 
>> photo. Also note that what she is eating is an apple, something people 
>> attempting to lose weight often eat as they can be filling without a high 
>> caloric load.
>> 
>> This is exactly the problem with street photography, the photograph itself 
>> is making no value judgement, however the people looking at it are free to 
>> be as judgmental as they want.
>> 
>
>That's rubbish, and you know it. The photographer chooses which pictures to 
>take, and then chooses whether or not to show them, then chooses how they are 
>shown. Every photograph anyone ever took makes many value judgements.
>
>B
>> 
>>> 
>>> Den 28. november 2016 15.51.08 CET, skrev ann sanfedele:
 It's complicated, but I certainly mocked obesity in some street photos
 in the past and I feel bad about it now... though I worry about friends
 
 who are from a health perspective..
 She also actually has food in her mouth and that is always something I
 turn away from no matter who is eating..
 
 ann
 
> On 11/28/2016 12:09 AM, Marco Alpert wrote:
> Hmm… Interested in how you define “this kind of shot.”
> 
> m
> 
> 
>> On Nov 27, 2016, at 12:01 PM, ann sanfedele
 wrote:
>> Yes - I doubt that sadly overweight young woman would enjoy seeing
 this..
>> I've taken this kind of shot in the past, I'll admit..  but now I
 find it difficult to look at... rather like facebook shaming..
>> ann
>> 
>>> On 11/27/2016 2:53 PM, Marco Alpert wrote:
>>> Mean?
>>> 
>>> m
>>> 
 On Nov 26, 2016, at 5:03 PM, ann sanfedele
 wrote:
 Now that's just mean..
 
 ann
 
 
> On 11/26/2016 4:47 PM, Marco Alpert wrote:
> http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo16/peso34.html
> 
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Re: PESO - The Haps

2016-11-28 Thread Philip Northeast

But what are they looking at?  Interesting.

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Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'

2016-11-28 Thread Ken Waller
Ding, ding, ding 
It's not Wisconsin, but you came the closest Ann, while the U P is in Michigan 
this sign is about 180 miles north west of Detroit in the Lower Peninsula of 
Michigan on my way to Traverse City. Black bears are very common in the north 
west part of the state. We've had one visit my condo about 4 miles north of 
Traverse City.


-Original Message-
>From: ann sanfedele 
>Sent: Nov 28, 2016 9:58 AM
>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>Subject: Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'
>
>I'm trying tow ake up really...
>
>OK if the UP was close, (Bob, that is MIchigan) how about Wisconsin?
>
>can I redeem myself?
>
>ann
>
>
>On 11/28/2016 9:46 AM, Ken Waller wrote:
>> Ann, it is a border state as stated awhile back...
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>>> From: ann sanfedele 
>>> Sent: Nov 28, 2016 9:38 AM
>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>>> Subject: Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'
>>>
>>> Malcolm - Montana borders Canada all along it's northermost border..
>>>
>>> My two guesses that border Canada were made before I saw him say it
>>> wasn't a border state... I made a third guess after that - somewhat based on
>>>
>>> where I saw Ken in person
>>>
>>> ann
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/28/2016 2:23 AM, Malcolm Smith wrote:
 Ken Waller wrote:

 Thanks for commenting Jack, Malcolm, John and Paul but you guys offered no
 guess as to where the sign might be.

 Hint !  It is in the continental U. S. and does border Canada.
 +++

 Montana?

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Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'

2016-11-28 Thread Ken Waller
Nope


-Original Message-
>From: Gonz 
>Sent: Nov 28, 2016 11:44 AM
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>Subject: Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'
>
>Idaho
>
>On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 10:17 AM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
>> They can't reed anyway
>>
>>> On 28 Nov 2016, at 15:59, Alan C  wrote:
>>>
>>> Oh, dear, what can the matter be? Dear deer I imagine.
>>>
>>> Alan C
>>>
>>> -Original Message- From: P.J. Alling
>>> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 5:15 PM
>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>>> Subject: Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'
>>>
>>> That reminds me of the woman who called into a talk radio show to
>>> complain that the state had put the dear crossing signs in places with
>>> too much traffic...
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFCrJleggrI
>>>
 On 11/28/2016 12:08 AM, Ken Waller wrote:
 Thanks Alan,

 I've always wondered when I see a deer crossing sign how the deer know to 
 cross there ?

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 - Original Message - From: "Alan C" 
 Subject: Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'


> Obviously in Bear country but it could be in many places I suppose. Those 
> sort of signs are testament to the innovation of environmentalists where 
> there is cause for concern. You won't find them in official handbooks. I 
> can think of 3 ad hoc signs from around here. 1. "Hippo" signs after a 
> couple of accidents at night. 2. A "Crocodile" sign at Tzaneen (N of 
> here) after one was run over. & 3. A "Birds - Slow" sign S of here where, 
> for some reason, a lot of birds, especially doves, congregate on the 
> road. Some people do care & one hopes the drivers take note.
>
> Alan C
>
> -Original Message- From: Ken Waller
> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 10:26 PM
> To: pentax list
> Subject: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'
>
> An unusual sign I haven't seen before. Notice its bear, not bare. I've 
> been
> in all the United States
> and don't recall seeing one before.
>
> Where was it taken ?
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18315060
>
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Re: PESO - Lakeside

2016-11-28 Thread Bob W-PDML
On 28 Nov 2016, at 19:30, Marco Alpert  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Nov 28, 2016, at 10:38 AM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
>> 
>> On 28 Nov 2016, at 17:57, Larry Colen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Jostein Øksne wrote:
 I remember one time way back in the gelatine days of photography, that a 
 guy called Shel Belinkoff posted a thematically similar photo. It 
 triggered one of the most on-topic flame wars we ever had.
 
 With this photo, I get the feeling of observing a vulnerable person 
 exposed in a vulnerable moment. I tend to side with Ann in finding it 
 crossing a fine line of something negative. Indecency, maybe.
 Jostein
>>> 
>>> I think that Marco should change his name to Rorschach. If you don't find 
>>> anything wrong with someone being fat, there is nothing to criticize in the 
>>> photo. Also note that what she is eating is an apple, something people 
>>> attempting to lose weight often eat as they can be filling without a high 
>>> caloric load.
>>> 
>>> This is exactly the problem with street photography, the photograph itself 
>>> is making no value judgement, however the people looking at it are free to 
>>> be as judgmental as they want.
>>> 
>> 
>> That's rubbish, and you know it.
> 
> You know, you’re certainly welcome to your opinion, but telling someone else 
> what they do or don’t “know” strikes me as a bit presumptuous.
> 
>> The photographer chooses which pictures to take, and then chooses whether or 
>> not to show them, then chooses how they are shown.
> 
> No argument there.
> 
>> Every photograph anyone ever took makes many value judgements.
> 
> You’ve said above that the *photographer* makes choices (which I guess you 
> equate with “value judgements”). But unless the photographer makes a habit of 
> communicating the reasons he or she made those choices (a habit that I 
> eschew), Larry’s point that the  photograph acts as Rorschach into which the 
> viewer can inject their own preconceptions, even as they guess at the 
> photographer’s motivation, seems pretty valid to me.

The point about a Rorschach blot is that it is essentially random and 
non-representative, so any interpretation is inevitably an invention of the 
viewer alone. A photograph is unavoidably representative - it is the defining 
property of photography - and there is human agency, choices and value 
judgements throughout the production chain. These choices and judgements 
influence the viewer. The comparison with a Rorschach blot therefore fails 
entirely. 

Of course the viewers bring their own preconceptions and make their own 
interpretation, but because of the aforementioned human agency these 
interpretations are not _entirely_ their own.

Larry's claim that the photograph makes no value judgement is therefore rubbish 
and if he didn't know it he bloody well ought to, and does now.

It is however true that the viewers can be as judgmental as they wish. As 
indeed can the photographer, and the rest of the world is free to interpret and 
judge their motives in turn.

In the case of this particular photograph I interpret it as mean-spirited. 
That's not to say I might not have taken it myself, but having taken it I don't 
think I would have shown it. 

Obesity is a very complex issue, as is women's body image, and not simply a 
matter of individual choice and free will, and people should think long and 
hard before posting pictures of identifiable individuals in situations which 
are easily interpreted as reducing their dignity, or mocking or pitying them.

B


>> On 11/26/2016 4:47 PM, Marco Alpert wrote:
>> http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo16/peso34.html
>> 
>> Comments, as always, welcomed.
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Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'

2016-11-28 Thread Ken Waller
Nope


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>
>Once more for the road.
>Minnesota.
>I can just imagine the number of brown bears in the backwater area.
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Re: Process & Scan

2016-11-28 Thread P.J. Alling

Yes, but it's out of business...

On 11/28/2016 3:13 PM, Collin B wrote:

Anyone have a preferred shop (would like eastern US) for E6 process & scan?





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Process & Scan

2016-11-28 Thread Collin B
Anyone have a preferred shop (would like eastern US) for E6 process & scan?


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Re: Peso-Ring Bill Gull

2016-11-28 Thread Jack Davis
I do, P.J.. He appears very pleased with himself.
Thanks for the comment!

J

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He's very self satisfied looking don't you think?

On 11/28/2016 12:01 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
>
> Odd composition post.
> It doesn't say anything specific to me either.
>
> C&C?
>   
> J
>
> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1132
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Re: PESO - Lakeside

2016-11-28 Thread Marco Alpert

> On Nov 28, 2016, at 10:38 AM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> On 28 Nov 2016, at 17:57, Larry Colen  wrote:
>> 
>> Jostein Øksne wrote:
>>> I remember one time way back in the gelatine days of photography, that a 
>>> guy called Shel Belinkoff posted a thematically similar photo. It triggered 
>>> one of the most on-topic flame wars we ever had.
>>> 
>>> With this photo, I get the feeling of observing a vulnerable person exposed 
>>> in a vulnerable moment. I tend to side with Ann in finding it crossing a 
>>> fine line of something negative. Indecency, maybe.
>>> Jostein
>> 
>> I think that Marco should change his name to Rorschach. If you don't find 
>> anything wrong with someone being fat, there is nothing to criticize in the 
>> photo. Also note that what she is eating is an apple, something people 
>> attempting to lose weight often eat as they can be filling without a high 
>> caloric load.
>> 
>> This is exactly the problem with street photography, the photograph itself 
>> is making no value judgement, however the people looking at it are free to 
>> be as judgmental as they want.
>> 
> 
> That's rubbish, and you know it.

You know, you’re certainly welcome to your opinion, but telling someone else 
what they do or don’t “know” strikes me as a bit presumptuous.

> The photographer chooses which pictures to take, and then chooses whether or 
> not to show them, then chooses how they are shown.

No argument there.

> Every photograph anyone ever took makes many value judgements.

You’ve said above that the *photographer* makes choices (which I guess you 
equate with “value judgements”). But unless the photographer makes a habit of 
communicating the reasons he or she made those choices (a habit that I eschew), 
Larry’s point that the  photograph acts as Rorschach into which the viewer can 
inject their own preconceptions, even as they guess at the photographer’s 
motivation, seems pretty valid to me.

- Marco


> 
> B
>> 
>>> 
>>> Den 28. november 2016 15.51.08 CET, skrev ann sanfedele:
 It's complicated, but I certainly mocked obesity in some street photos
 in the past and I feel bad about it now... though I worry about friends
 
 who are from a health perspective..
 She also actually has food in her mouth and that is always something I
 turn away from no matter who is eating..
 
 ann
 
> On 11/28/2016 12:09 AM, Marco Alpert wrote:
> Hmm… Interested in how you define “this kind of shot.”
> 
> m
> 
> 
>> On Nov 27, 2016, at 12:01 PM, ann sanfedele
 wrote:
>> Yes - I doubt that sadly overweight young woman would enjoy seeing
 this..
>> I've taken this kind of shot in the past, I'll admit..  but now I
 find it difficult to look at... rather like facebook shaming..
>> ann
>> 
>>> On 11/27/2016 2:53 PM, Marco Alpert wrote:
>>> Mean?
>>> 
>>> m
>>> 
 On Nov 26, 2016, at 5:03 PM, ann sanfedele
 wrote:
 Now that's just mean..
 
 ann
 
 
> On 11/26/2016 4:47 PM, Marco Alpert wrote:
> http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo16/peso34.html
> 
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> 
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Re: Peso-Ring Bill Gull

2016-11-28 Thread Alan C

If the gull opens its beak, the rings will surely dissipate.

Alan C

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On 11/28/2016 1:02 PM, Malcolm Smith wrote:

Jack Davis wrote:

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1132
++

Curious bokeh on the vegetation. Nice gull!

Malcolm




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Re: PESO - Lakeside

2016-11-28 Thread Bob W-PDML
On 28 Nov 2016, at 17:57, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> Jostein Øksne wrote:
>> I remember one time way back in the gelatine days of photography, that a guy 
>> called Shel Belinkoff posted a thematically similar photo. It triggered one 
>> of the most on-topic flame wars we ever had.
>> 
>> With this photo, I get the feeling of observing a vulnerable person exposed 
>> in a vulnerable moment. I tend to side with Ann in finding it crossing a 
>> fine line of something negative. Indecency, maybe.
>> Jostein
> 
> I think that Marco should change his name to Rorschach. If you don't find 
> anything wrong with someone being fat, there is nothing to criticize in the 
> photo. Also note that what she is eating is an apple, something people 
> attempting to lose weight often eat as they can be filling without a high 
> caloric load.
> 
> This is exactly the problem with street photography, the photograph itself is 
> making no value judgement, however the people looking at it are free to be as 
> judgmental as they want.
> 

That's rubbish, and you know it. The photographer chooses which pictures to 
take, and then chooses whether or not to show them, then chooses how they are 
shown. Every photograph anyone ever took makes many value judgements.

B
> 
>> 
>> Den 28. november 2016 15.51.08 CET, skrev ann sanfedele:
>>> It's complicated, but I certainly mocked obesity in some street photos
>>> in the past and I feel bad about it now... though I worry about friends
>>> 
>>> who are from a health perspective..
>>> She also actually has food in her mouth and that is always something I
>>> turn away from no matter who is eating..
>>> 
>>> ann
>>> 
 On 11/28/2016 12:09 AM, Marco Alpert wrote:
 Hmm… Interested in how you define “this kind of shot.”
 
 m
 
 
> On Nov 27, 2016, at 12:01 PM, ann sanfedele
>>> wrote:
> Yes - I doubt that sadly overweight young woman would enjoy seeing
>>> this..
> I've taken this kind of shot in the past, I'll admit..  but now I
>>> find it difficult to look at... rather like facebook shaming..
> ann
> 
>> On 11/27/2016 2:53 PM, Marco Alpert wrote:
>> Mean?
>> 
>> m
>> 
>>> On Nov 26, 2016, at 5:03 PM, ann sanfedele
>>> wrote:
>>> Now that's just mean..
>>> 
>>> ann
>>> 
>>> 
 On 11/26/2016 4:47 PM, Marco Alpert wrote:
 http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo16/peso34.html
 
 Comments, as always, welcomed.
 
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Re: Peso-Ring Bill Gull

2016-11-28 Thread P.J. Alling

On 11/28/2016 1:02 PM, Malcolm Smith wrote:

Jack Davis wrote:

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1132
++

Curious bokeh on the vegetation. Nice gull!

Malcolm




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Re: Peso-Ring Bill Gull

2016-11-28 Thread P.J. Alling

He's very self satisfied looking don't you think?

On 11/28/2016 12:01 PM, Jack Davis wrote:


Odd composition post.
It doesn't say anything specific to me either.

C&C?
  
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Re: Pesos For tje bords

2016-11-28 Thread Jack Davis

Successful hunt, Paul! 
The ISO 25,600 is, of course, VERY apparent.

J

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Subject: Pesos For tje bords

Went p ut late in the day with y K-1 trips, DF A 150-450. A 2Xs comforter and 
hot some little birds. The are pushed pretty hard, about ISO 25,600 and tight 
crops, but still fun to shoot.

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http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18315489&size=lg

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RE: Peso-Ring Bill Gull

2016-11-28 Thread mike wilson
> On 28 November 2016 at 18:02 Malcolm Smith  wrote:
> 
> 
> Jack Davis wrote:
> 
> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1132
> ++
> 
> Curious bokeh on the vegetation. Nice gull!

Looks more like some sort of processing artefact.

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Re: PESO - Lakeside

2016-11-28 Thread mike wilson
> On 28 November 2016 at 17:56 Larry Colen  wrote:

> This is exactly the problem with street photography, the photograph 
> itself is making no value judgement, however the people looking at it 
> are free to be as judgmental as they want.

Not a problem.  The variety of interpretations is what makes street photography
so interesting.

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Re: Peso-Ring Bill Gull

2016-11-28 Thread Jack Davis

Yes, I noticed the same curiosity.(?)
Thanks for commenting, Malcolm!

J
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Jack Davis wrote:

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1132
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Curious bokeh on the vegetation. Nice gull!

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RE: Peso-Ring Bill Gull

2016-11-28 Thread Malcolm Smith
Jack Davis wrote:

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++

Curious bokeh on the vegetation. Nice gull!

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RE: PESO - The Haps

2016-11-28 Thread Malcolm Smith
Marco Alpert wrote:

http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo16/peso35.html
+++

Certainly makes you wonder what they turned to look at. Interesting again
Marco.

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Re: PESO - Lakeside

2016-11-28 Thread Larry Colen



Jostein Øksne wrote:

I remember one time way back in the gelatine days of photography, that a guy 
called Shel Belinkoff posted a thematically similar photo. It triggered one of 
the most on-topic flame wars we ever had.

With this photo, I get the feeling of observing a vulnerable person exposed in 
a vulnerable moment. I tend to side with Ann in finding it crossing a fine line 
of something negative. Indecency, maybe.
Jostein


I think that Marco should change his name to Rorschach. If you don't 
find anything wrong with someone being fat, there is nothing to 
criticize in the photo. Also note that what she is eating is an apple, 
something people attempting to lose weight often eat as they can be 
filling without a high caloric load.


This is exactly the problem with street photography, the photograph 
itself is making no value judgement, however the people looking at it 
are free to be as judgmental as they want.





Den 28. november 2016 15.51.08 CET, skrev ann sanfedele:

It's complicated, but I certainly mocked obesity in some street photos
in the past and I feel bad about it now... though I worry about friends

who are from a health perspective..
She also actually has food in her mouth and that is always something I
turn away from no matter who is eating..

ann

On 11/28/2016 12:09 AM, Marco Alpert wrote:

Hmm… Interested in how you define “this kind of shot.”

m



On Nov 27, 2016, at 12:01 PM, ann sanfedele

wrote:

Yes - I doubt that sadly overweight young woman would enjoy seeing

this..

I've taken this kind of shot in the past, I'll admit..  but now I

find it difficult to look at... rather like facebook shaming..

ann

On 11/27/2016 2:53 PM, Marco Alpert wrote:

Mean?

m


On Nov 26, 2016, at 5:03 PM, ann sanfedele

wrote:

Now that's just mean..

ann


On 11/26/2016 4:47 PM, Marco Alpert wrote:

http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo16/peso34.html

Comments, as always, welcomed.

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Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'

2016-11-28 Thread P.J. Alling

Auto correct hates me.

On 11/28/2016 10:58 AM, Alan C wrote:

Oh, dear, what can the matter be? Dear deer I imagine.

Alan C

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That reminds me of the woman who called into a talk radio show to
complain that the state had put the dear crossing signs in places with
too much traffic...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFCrJleggrI

On 11/28/2016 12:08 AM, Ken Waller wrote:

Thanks Alan,

I've always wondered when I see a deer crossing sign how the deer 
know to cross there ?


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- Original Message - From: "Alan C" 
Subject: Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'


Obviously in Bear country but it could be in many places I suppose. 
Those sort of signs are testament to the innovation of 
environmentalists where there is cause for concern. You won't find 
them in official handbooks. I can think of 3 ad hoc signs from 
around here. 1. "Hippo" signs after a couple of accidents at night. 
2. A "Crocodile" sign at Tzaneen (N of here) after one was run over. 
& 3. A "Birds - Slow" sign S of here where, for some reason, a lot 
of birds, especially doves, congregate on the road. Some people do 
care & one hopes the drivers take note.


Alan C

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Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 10:26 PM
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Subject: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'

An unusual sign I haven't seen before. Notice its bear, not bare. 
I've been

in all the United States
and don't recall seeing one before.

Where was it taken ?

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18315060

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Re: PESO - Lakeside

2016-11-28 Thread Jostein Øksne
I remember one time way back in the gelatine days of photography, that a guy 
called Shel Belinkoff posted a thematically similar photo. It triggered one of 
the most on-topic flame wars we ever had.

With this photo, I get the feeling of observing a vulnerable person exposed in 
a vulnerable moment. I tend to side with Ann in finding it crossing a fine line 
of something negative. Indecency, maybe.
Jostein 

Den 28. november 2016 15.51.08 CET, skrev ann sanfedele :
>It's complicated, but I certainly mocked obesity in some street photos 
>in the past and I feel bad about it now... though I worry about friends
>
>who are from a health perspective..
>She also actually has food in her mouth and that is always something I 
>turn away from no matter who is eating..
>
>ann
>
>On 11/28/2016 12:09 AM, Marco Alpert wrote:
>> Hmm… Interested in how you define “this kind of shot.”
>>
>> m
>>
>>
>>> On Nov 27, 2016, at 12:01 PM, ann sanfedele 
>wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes - I doubt that sadly overweight young woman would enjoy seeing
>this..
>>>
>>> I've taken this kind of shot in the past, I'll admit..  but now I
>find it difficult to look at... rather like facebook shaming..
>>>
>>> ann
>>>
>>> On 11/27/2016 2:53 PM, Marco Alpert wrote:
 Mean?

 m

> On Nov 26, 2016, at 5:03 PM, ann sanfedele 
>wrote:
>
> Now that's just mean..
>
> ann
>
>
> On 11/26/2016 4:47 PM, Marco Alpert wrote:
>> http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo16/peso34.html
>>
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>>
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Re: FWIW

2016-11-28 Thread Gonz
Amazing, sharp, and dramatic capture!  Congrats.


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> approximately 185 submissions in the monthly photo contest 'Monochrome'
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Peso-Ring Bill Gull

2016-11-28 Thread Jack Davis


Odd composition post.
It doesn't say anything specific to me either.

C&C?
 
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PESO - The Haps

2016-11-28 Thread Marco Alpert
http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo16/peso35.html

Comments, as always, welcomed.

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Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'

2016-11-28 Thread Gonz
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On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 10:17 AM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> They can't reed anyway
>
>> On 28 Nov 2016, at 15:59, Alan C  wrote:
>>
>> Oh, dear, what can the matter be? Dear deer I imagine.
>>
>> Alan C
>>
>> -Original Message- From: P.J. Alling
>> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 5:15 PM
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>> Subject: Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'
>>
>> That reminds me of the woman who called into a talk radio show to
>> complain that the state had put the dear crossing signs in places with
>> too much traffic...
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFCrJleggrI
>>
>>> On 11/28/2016 12:08 AM, Ken Waller wrote:
>>> Thanks Alan,
>>>
>>> I've always wondered when I see a deer crossing sign how the deer know to 
>>> cross there ?
>>>
>>> Kenneth Waller
>>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
>>>
>>> - Original Message - From: "Alan C" 
>>> Subject: Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'
>>>
>>>
 Obviously in Bear country but it could be in many places I suppose. Those 
 sort of signs are testament to the innovation of environmentalists where 
 there is cause for concern. You won't find them in official handbooks. I 
 can think of 3 ad hoc signs from around here. 1. "Hippo" signs after a 
 couple of accidents at night. 2. A "Crocodile" sign at Tzaneen (N of here) 
 after one was run over. & 3. A "Birds - Slow" sign S of here where, for 
 some reason, a lot of birds, especially doves, congregate on the road. 
 Some people do care & one hopes the drivers take note.

 Alan C

 -Original Message- From: Ken Waller
 Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 10:26 PM
 To: pentax list
 Subject: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'

 An unusual sign I haven't seen before. Notice its bear, not bare. I've been
 in all the United States
 and don't recall seeing one before.

 Where was it taken ?

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18315060

 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
>>>
>>>
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Re: 20 minutes left on Fastpack 350 for $60

2016-11-28 Thread Igor PDML-StR


It looks like that timer is per an individual IP address... (or just a 
random number under 20 minutes)
So, when I looked at it this morning, - it started counting down from just 
below 20 minutes.
Just looked at it in the middle of the day, - it shows 12 minutes and some 
seconds...

:-)

So, if someone is interested, - that person can still get that deal!

Igor


Larry Colen Sun, 27 Nov 2016 23:57:07 -0800 wrote:

It's an awesome camera bag, excellent for the APS bodies and lenses


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Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'

2016-11-28 Thread Bob W-PDML
They can't reed anyway

> On 28 Nov 2016, at 15:59, Alan C  wrote:
> 
> Oh, dear, what can the matter be? Dear deer I imagine.
> 
> Alan C
> 
> -Original Message- From: P.J. Alling
> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 5:15 PM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'
> 
> That reminds me of the woman who called into a talk radio show to
> complain that the state had put the dear crossing signs in places with
> too much traffic...
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFCrJleggrI
> 
>> On 11/28/2016 12:08 AM, Ken Waller wrote:
>> Thanks Alan,
>> 
>> I've always wondered when I see a deer crossing sign how the deer know to 
>> cross there ?
>> 
>> Kenneth Waller
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Alan C" 
>> Subject: Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'
>> 
>> 
>>> Obviously in Bear country but it could be in many places I suppose. Those 
>>> sort of signs are testament to the innovation of environmentalists where 
>>> there is cause for concern. You won't find them in official handbooks. I 
>>> can think of 3 ad hoc signs from around here. 1. "Hippo" signs after a 
>>> couple of accidents at night. 2. A "Crocodile" sign at Tzaneen (N of here) 
>>> after one was run over. & 3. A "Birds - Slow" sign S of here where, for 
>>> some reason, a lot of birds, especially doves, congregate on the road. Some 
>>> people do care & one hopes the drivers take note.
>>> 
>>> Alan C
>>> 
>>> -Original Message- From: Ken Waller
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 10:26 PM
>>> To: pentax list
>>> Subject: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'
>>> 
>>> An unusual sign I haven't seen before. Notice its bear, not bare. I've been
>>> in all the United States
>>> and don't recall seeing one before.
>>> 
>>> Where was it taken ?
>>> 
>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18315060
>>> 
>>> Kenneth Waller
>>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
>> 
>> 
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Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'

2016-11-28 Thread Collin B
Once more for the road.
Minnesota.
I can just imagine the number of brown bears in the backwater area.


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Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'

2016-11-28 Thread Alan C

Oh, dear, what can the matter be? Dear deer I imagine.

Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: P.J. Alling

Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 5:15 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'

That reminds me of the woman who called into a talk radio show to
complain that the state had put the dear crossing signs in places with
too much traffic...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFCrJleggrI

On 11/28/2016 12:08 AM, Ken Waller wrote:

Thanks Alan,

I've always wondered when I see a deer crossing sign how the deer know to 
cross there ?


Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - From: "Alan C" 
Subject: Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'


Obviously in Bear country but it could be in many places I suppose. Those 
sort of signs are testament to the innovation of environmentalists where 
there is cause for concern. You won't find them in official handbooks. I 
can think of 3 ad hoc signs from around here. 1. "Hippo" signs after a 
couple of accidents at night. 2. A "Crocodile" sign at Tzaneen (N of 
here) after one was run over. & 3. A "Birds - Slow" sign S of here where, 
for some reason, a lot of birds, especially doves, congregate on the 
road. Some people do care & one hopes the drivers take note.


Alan C

-Original Message- From: Ken Waller
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 10:26 PM
To: pentax list
Subject: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'

An unusual sign I haven't seen before. Notice its bear, not bare. I've 
been

in all the United States
and don't recall seeing one before.

Where was it taken ?

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18315060

Kenneth Waller
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Re: Ricoh Peso - Bright Angel trail

2016-11-28 Thread ann sanfedele

Thanks much, old chum

a
On 11/28/2016 10:43 AM, Bob W-PDML wrote:

Just looked through them - there is some magnificent stuff there.

B


On 28 Nov 2016, at 14:35, ann sanfedele  wrote:

Thanks Alan ... I just finally got the "yield" shot up last night...

It's in a National Park not on my calendar , The Badlands in the state of South 
Dakota The Bison was crossing the road  so yielding seemed a wise thing to 
do..

Richard bust out laughing in the drivers's seat and I snapped three shots 
quicklyfrom inside thecar...


This is froM December 1974 - when I first had my very own 35mm camera
(as opposed to using ex hsband's)  I don't know the model

But I was shooting Agfa 100...

https://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Scans-from-Chromes/i-rRrCSqt/XL

now back to work





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Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'

2016-11-28 Thread Bob W-PDML
Or the, ahem American, tourists on a tour of Skipton Castle (c. 1090) who kept 
being drowned out by aircraft noise and said "gee, with all their money you'd 
think they'da built the castle further from the airport".



> On 28 Nov 2016, at 15:16, P.J. Alling  wrote:
> 
> That reminds me of the woman who called into a talk radio show to complain 
> that the state had put the dear crossing signs in places with too much 
> traffic...
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFCrJleggrI
> 
>> On 11/28/2016 12:08 AM, Ken Waller wrote:
>> Thanks Alan,
>> 
>> I've always wondered when I see a deer crossing sign how the deer know to 
>> cross there ?
>> 
>> Kenneth Waller
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Alan C" 
>> Subject: Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'
>> 
>> 
>>> Obviously in Bear country but it could be in many places I suppose. Those 
>>> sort of signs are testament to the innovation of environmentalists where 
>>> there is cause for concern. You won't find them in official handbooks. I 
>>> can think of 3 ad hoc signs from around here. 1. "Hippo" signs after a 
>>> couple of accidents at night. 2. A "Crocodile" sign at Tzaneen (N of here) 
>>> after one was run over. & 3. A "Birds - Slow" sign S of here where, for 
>>> some reason, a lot of birds, especially doves, congregate on the road. Some 
>>> people do care & one hopes the drivers take note.
>>> 
>>> Alan C
>>> 
>>> -Original Message- From: Ken Waller
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 10:26 PM
>>> To: pentax list
>>> Subject: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'
>>> 
>>> An unusual sign I haven't seen before. Notice its bear, not bare. I've been
>>> in all the United States
>>> and don't recall seeing one before.
>>> 
>>> Where was it taken ?
>>> 
>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18315060
>>> 

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Re: Ricoh Peso - Bright Angel trail

2016-11-28 Thread Bob W-PDML
Just looked through them - there is some magnificent stuff there.

B

> On 28 Nov 2016, at 14:35, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Alan ... I just finally got the "yield" shot up last night...
> 
> It's in a National Park not on my calendar , The Badlands in the state of 
> South Dakota The Bison was crossing the road  so yielding seemed a wise 
> thing to do..
> 
> Richard bust out laughing in the drivers's seat and I snapped three shots 
> quicklyfrom inside thecar...
>> 
>> 
>> This is froM December 1974 - when I first had my very own 35mm camera
>> (as opposed to using ex hsband's)  I don't know the model
>> 
>> But I was shooting Agfa 100...
>> 
>> https://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Scans-from-Chromes/i-rRrCSqt/XL
>>  
>> 
>> now back to work
>> 
>> 

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RE: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'

2016-11-28 Thread Malcolm Smith
ann sanfedele wrote:

Damn! - I read "does" as Doesn't - and even wrote another answer ...

Sorry, I'm jsut wakign up and not having coffee until after I take Blood
pressure

note to self - don't answer email until coffee has been consumed!

Hope at least I'm providing comic relief..
+

Just one of those days we all have from time to
time..

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Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'

2016-11-28 Thread P.J. Alling
That reminds me of the woman who called into a talk radio show to 
complain that the state had put the dear crossing signs in places with 
too much traffic...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFCrJleggrI

On 11/28/2016 12:08 AM, Ken Waller wrote:

Thanks Alan,

I've always wondered when I see a deer crossing sign how the deer know 
to cross there ?


Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - From: "Alan C" 
Subject: Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'


Obviously in Bear country but it could be in many places I suppose. 
Those sort of signs are testament to the innovation of 
environmentalists where there is cause for concern. You won't find 
them in official handbooks. I can think of 3 ad hoc signs from around 
here. 1. "Hippo" signs after a couple of accidents at night. 2. A 
"Crocodile" sign at Tzaneen (N of here) after one was run over. & 3. 
A "Birds - Slow" sign S of here where, for some reason, a lot of 
birds, especially doves, congregate on the road. Some people do care 
& one hopes the drivers take note.


Alan C

-Original Message- From: Ken Waller
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 10:26 PM
To: pentax list
Subject: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'

An unusual sign I haven't seen before. Notice its bear, not bare. 
I've been

in all the United States
and don't recall seeing one before.

Where was it taken ?

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18315060

Kenneth Waller
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Re: Pesos For tje bords

2016-11-28 Thread P.J. Alling

For a second there, I was afraid you'd had a stroke.

I understand your pain.

At least Dave Brookes could probably decode what you typed with no 
problem...


On 11/27/2016 7:10 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Good God, why don’t I read what I post before I hit send?

The subject line was supposed to be “For the Birds.” Not very original but 
better than For tje bords. Where is autocorrect when I need it? The copy should 
have said, “I went out late in the day with my K-1, tripod, DF A 150-450 and  A 
2X S converter, and shot some little birds. These are pushed pretty hard to 
about ISO 25,600 and cropped tight but still fun to shoot.


On Nov 27, 2016, at 6:54 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:

Went p ut late in the day with y K-1 trips, DF A 150-450. A 2Xs comforter and 
hot some little birds. The are pushed pretty hard, about ISO 25,600 and tight 
crops, but still fun to shoot.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18315490&size=lg
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18315489&size=lg

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Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'

2016-11-28 Thread ann sanfedele

Damn! - I read "does" as Doesn't - and even wrote another answer ...

Sorry, I'm jsut wakign up and not having coffee until after I take Blood 
pressure


note to self - don't answer email until coffee has been consumed!

Hope at least I'm providing comic relief..

ann


On 11/28/2016 9:46 AM, Ken Waller wrote:

Ann, it is a border state as stated awhile back...


-Original Message-

From: ann sanfedele 
Sent: Nov 28, 2016 9:38 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
Subject: Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'

Malcolm - Montana borders Canada all along it's northermost border..

My two guesses that border Canada were made before I saw him say it
wasn't a border state... I made a third guess after that - somewhat based on

where I saw Ken in person

ann


On 11/28/2016 2:23 AM, Malcolm Smith wrote:

Ken Waller wrote:

Thanks for commenting Jack, Malcolm, John and Paul but you guys offered no
guess as to where the sign might be.

Hint !  It is in the continental U. S. and does border Canada.
+++

Montana?

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Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'

2016-11-28 Thread ann sanfedele

I'm trying tow ake up really...

OK if the UP was close, (Bob, that is MIchigan) how about Wisconsin?

can I redeem myself?

ann


On 11/28/2016 9:46 AM, Ken Waller wrote:

Ann, it is a border state as stated awhile back...


-Original Message-

From: ann sanfedele 
Sent: Nov 28, 2016 9:38 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
Subject: Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'

Malcolm - Montana borders Canada all along it's northermost border..

My two guesses that border Canada were made before I saw him say it
wasn't a border state... I made a third guess after that - somewhat based on

where I saw Ken in person

ann


On 11/28/2016 2:23 AM, Malcolm Smith wrote:

Ken Waller wrote:

Thanks for commenting Jack, Malcolm, John and Paul but you guys offered no
guess as to where the sign might be.

Hint !  It is in the continental U. S. and does border Canada.
+++

Montana?

Malcolm




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Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'

2016-11-28 Thread ann sanfedele
Ken - I'm jsut noticing now that you typed "does" border Canada - where 
you meantto type Doesn't - so Collin and Malcolm 's answers are not so 
surprising!


ann


On 11/28/2016 9:45 AM, Ken Waller wrote:

Nope.


-Original Message-

From: Collin B 
Sent: Nov 28, 2016 7:40 AM
To: pdml@pdml.net
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Hint !  It is in the continental U. S. and does border Canada.

I doubt Minnesota, or Maine, NY, VT or NH.
Certainly not ND. Maybe Montana or Idaho.
But I'll guess Washington state. Just because.


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Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'

2016-11-28 Thread ann sanfedele

Geez I know - I posted that before I saw you rule it out

ann :-)



On 11/28/2016 9:43 AM, Ken Waller wrote:

Ann the U P does indeed border Canada.



-Original Message-

From: ann sanfedele 
Sent: Nov 28, 2016 9:29 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
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Doesn't border Canada

OH geez so no U P MIch then

Lowering my sights... NC or TN ... which is to say, in the Great Smokies

ann


On 11/28/2016 12:05 AM, Ken Waller wrote:

Thanks for commenting Jack, Malcolm, John and Paul but you guys
offered no guess as to where the sign might be.

Hint !  It is in the continental U. S. and does border Canada.

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - From: "Jack Davis" 
Subject: Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'



DoF did a pleasing job on the background!

J

- Original Message -
From: "Ken Waller" 
To: "pentax list" 
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 12:26:10 PM
Subject: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'

An unusual sign I haven't seen before. Notice its bear, not bare.
I've been
in all the United States
and don't recall seeing one before.

Where was it taken ?

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18315060

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Re: PESO - Lakeside

2016-11-28 Thread ann sanfedele
It's complicated, but I certainly mocked obesity in some street photos 
in the past and I feel bad about it now... though I worry about friends 
who are from a health perspective..
She also actually has food in her mouth and that is always something I 
turn away from no matter who is eating..


ann

On 11/28/2016 12:09 AM, Marco Alpert wrote:

Hmm… Interested in how you define “this kind of shot.”

m



On Nov 27, 2016, at 12:01 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

Yes - I doubt that sadly overweight young woman would enjoy seeing this..

I've taken this kind of shot in the past, I'll admit..  but now I find it 
difficult to look at... rather like facebook shaming..

ann

On 11/27/2016 2:53 PM, Marco Alpert wrote:

Mean?

m


On Nov 26, 2016, at 5:03 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

Now that's just mean..

ann


On 11/26/2016 4:47 PM, Marco Alpert wrote:

http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo16/peso34.html

Comments, as always, welcomed.

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Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'

2016-11-28 Thread Ken Waller
Ann, it is a border state as stated awhile back...


-Original Message-
>From: ann sanfedele 
>Sent: Nov 28, 2016 9:38 AM
>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>Subject: Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'
>
>Malcolm - Montana borders Canada all along it's northermost border..
>
>My two guesses that border Canada were made before I saw him say it 
>wasn't a border state... I made a third guess after that - somewhat based on
>
>where I saw Ken in person
>
>ann
>
>
>On 11/28/2016 2:23 AM, Malcolm Smith wrote:
>> Ken Waller wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for commenting Jack, Malcolm, John and Paul but you guys offered no
>> guess as to where the sign might be.
>>
>> Hint !  It is in the continental U. S. and does border Canada.
>> +++
>>
>> Montana?
>>
>> Malcolm
>>
>>
>
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Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'

2016-11-28 Thread Ken Waller
Nope.


-Original Message-
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>Sent: Nov 28, 2016 7:40 AM
>To: pdml@pdml.net
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>
>>Hint !  It is in the continental U. S. and does border Canada.
>
>I doubt Minnesota, or Maine, NY, VT or NH.
>Certainly not ND. Maybe Montana or Idaho.
>But I'll guess Washington state. Just because.
>
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Re: Extremely OT mini GESO

2016-11-28 Thread Subash Jeyan
thanks Christine. glad you liked them.

~subash

On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 10:11:34 -0600
Christine Aguila  wrote:

> Very nice group, Subash!  Interesting compositions and light and
> shadows.  Cheers, Christine

> > https://500px.com/subashjeyan/galleries/dailycommute

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Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'

2016-11-28 Thread Ken Waller
Not even on the same continent...


-Original Message-
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>Sent: Nov 28, 2016 9:34 AM
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>Subject: Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'
>
>Uttar Pradesh?? Seems unlikely...
>
>> On 28 Nov 2016, at 14:26, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>> 
>> Second Guess  - U P
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 11/27/2016 11:55 PM, Ken Waller wrote:
>>> Thanks ann, but its not Alaska.
>>> 
>>> Clue - there are only black bears in this area.
>>> 
>>> Kenneth Waller
>>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "ann sanfedele" 
>>> Subject: Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'
>>> 
>>> 
 I'd guess Alaska.. on the Kanai?
 
 ann
 
 
> On 11/27/2016 3:26 PM, Ken Waller wrote:
> An unusual sign I haven't seen before. Notice its bear, not bare. I've 
> been in all the United States
> and don't recall seeing one before.
> 
> Where was it taken ?
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18315060
> 
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'

2016-11-28 Thread Ken Waller
Ann the U P does indeed border Canada.



-Original Message-
>From: ann sanfedele 
>Sent: Nov 28, 2016 9:29 AM
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>Subject: Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'
>
>Doesn't border Canada
>
>OH geez so no U P MIch then
>
>Lowering my sights... NC or TN ... which is to say, in the Great Smokies
>
>ann
>
>
>On 11/28/2016 12:05 AM, Ken Waller wrote:
>> Thanks for commenting Jack, Malcolm, John and Paul but you guys 
>> offered no guess as to where the sign might be.
>>
>> Hint !  It is in the continental U. S. and does border Canada.
>>
>> Kenneth Waller
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "Jack Davis" 
>> Subject: Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'
>>
>>
>>>
>>> DoF did a pleasing job on the background!
>>>
>>> J
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Ken Waller" 
>>> To: "pentax list" 
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 12:26:10 PM
>>> Subject: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'
>>>
>>> An unusual sign I haven't seen before. Notice its bear, not bare. 
>>> I've been
>>> in all the United States
>>> and don't recall seeing one before.
>>>
>>> Where was it taken ?
>>>
>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18315060
>>>
>>> Kenneth Waller
>>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
>>
>>
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Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'

2016-11-28 Thread Ken Waller
Close...


-Original Message-
>From: ann sanfedele 
>Sent: Nov 28, 2016 9:25 AM
>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>Subject: Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'
>
>Second Guess  - U P
>
>
>
>On 11/27/2016 11:55 PM, Ken Waller wrote:
>> Thanks ann, but its not Alaska.
>>
>> Clue - there are only black bears in this area.
>>
>> Kenneth Waller
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "ann sanfedele" 
>> Subject: Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'
>>
>>
>>> I'd guess Alaska.. on the Kanai?
>>>
>>> ann
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/27/2016 3:26 PM, Ken Waller wrote:
 An unusual sign I haven't seen before. Notice its bear, not bare. 
 I've been in all the United States
 and don't recall seeing one before.

 Where was it taken ?

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18315060

 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
>>
>>
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RE: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'

2016-11-28 Thread Ken Waller
Close...



-Original Message-
>From: Malcolm Smith 
>Sent: Nov 28, 2016 2:23 AM
>To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' 
>Subject: RE: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'
>
>Ken Waller wrote:
>
>Thanks for commenting Jack, Malcolm, John and Paul but you guys offered no
>guess as to where the sign might be.
>
>Hint !  It is in the continental U. S. and does border Canada.
>+++
>
>Montana?
>
>Malcolm
>
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Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'

2016-11-28 Thread ann sanfedele

Malcolm - Montana borders Canada all along it's northermost border..

My two guesses that border Canada were made before I saw him say it 
wasn't a border state... I made a third guess after that - somewhat based on


where I saw Ken in person

ann


On 11/28/2016 2:23 AM, Malcolm Smith wrote:

Ken Waller wrote:

Thanks for commenting Jack, Malcolm, John and Paul but you guys offered no
guess as to where the sign might be.

Hint !  It is in the continental U. S. and does border Canada.
+++

Montana?

Malcolm





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Re: Ricoh Peso - Bright Angel trail

2016-11-28 Thread ann sanfedele

Thanks Alan ... I just finally got the "yield" shot up last night...

It's in a National Park not on my calendar , The Badlands in the state 
of South Dakota The Bison was crossing the road  so yielding seemed 
a wise thing to do..


Richard bust out laughing in the drivers's seat and I snapped three 
shots quicklyfrom inside thecar...


ann


On 11/27/2016 11:49 PM, Alan C wrote:
That is a spectacular view, Ann. Quite different to anything I've ever 
seen. I checked your whole gallery - some very impressive stuff. I 
chuckled at the Bison standing on the road behind the Yield sign!


Alan c

-Original Message- From: ann sanfedele
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 10:05 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Ricoh Peso - Bright Angel trail

I finall got around to scanning this shot and cleaning it up
sufficiently (I hope)

This is froM December 1974 - when I first had my very own 35mm camera
(as opposed to using ex hsband's)  I don't know the model

But I was shooting Agfa 100...

https://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Scans-from-Chromes/i-rRrCSqt/XL 



now back to work

ann





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Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'

2016-11-28 Thread Bob W-PDML
Uttar Pradesh?? Seems unlikely...

> On 28 Nov 2016, at 14:26, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> Second Guess  - U P
> 
> 
> 
>> On 11/27/2016 11:55 PM, Ken Waller wrote:
>> Thanks ann, but its not Alaska.
>> 
>> Clue - there are only black bears in this area.
>> 
>> Kenneth Waller
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "ann sanfedele" 
>> Subject: Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'
>> 
>> 
>>> I'd guess Alaska.. on the Kanai?
>>> 
>>> ann
>>> 
>>> 
 On 11/27/2016 3:26 PM, Ken Waller wrote:
 An unusual sign I haven't seen before. Notice its bear, not bare. I've 
 been in all the United States
 and don't recall seeing one before.
 
 Where was it taken ?
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18315060
 
 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
>> 
>> 
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Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'

2016-11-28 Thread ann sanfedele

Doesn't border Canada

OH geez so no U P MIch then

Lowering my sights... NC or TN ... which is to say, in the Great Smokies

ann


On 11/28/2016 12:05 AM, Ken Waller wrote:
Thanks for commenting Jack, Malcolm, John and Paul but you guys 
offered no guess as to where the sign might be.


Hint !  It is in the continental U. S. and does border Canada.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - From: "Jack Davis" 
Subject: Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'




DoF did a pleasing job on the background!

J

- Original Message -
From: "Ken Waller" 
To: "pentax list" 
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 12:26:10 PM
Subject: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'

An unusual sign I haven't seen before. Notice its bear, not bare. 
I've been

in all the United States
and don't recall seeing one before.

Where was it taken ?

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18315060

Kenneth Waller
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Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'

2016-11-28 Thread ann sanfedele

Second Guess  - U P



On 11/27/2016 11:55 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

Thanks ann, but its not Alaska.

Clue - there are only black bears in this area.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - From: "ann sanfedele" 
Subject: Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'



I'd guess Alaska.. on the Kanai?

ann


On 11/27/2016 3:26 PM, Ken Waller wrote:
An unusual sign I haven't seen before. Notice its bear, not bare. 
I've been in all the United States

and don't recall seeing one before.

Where was it taken ?

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18315060

Kenneth Waller
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Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'

2016-11-28 Thread Collin B
>Hint !  It is in the continental U. S. and does border Canada.

I doubt Minnesota, or Maine, NY, VT or NH.
Certainly not ND. Maybe Montana or Idaho.
But I'll guess Washington state. Just because.


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