Re: SPESO: "What is it"

[Bob Pdml]

> 
> , at 05:39, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> Silly Photo Every So Often
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/50161505156/in/album-72157715266804887/
> 
> 
> No particular photographic merit, it just amused me.  Comments and wordplay 
> are welcome.

A similar etymological tidbit, trinket or Scrabblist’s delicacy is the almost 
forgotten English word, kickshaws. 
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SPESO: "What is it"

[Larry Colen]

Silly Photo Every So Often

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/50161505156/in/album-72157715266804887/


No particular photographic merit, it just amused me.  Comments and wordplay are 
welcome.



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Re: PESO: Another Chrysalis

[ann sanfedele]

Nice geometry -- the highlights are kinda blown out on my screen though..

ann

On 7/27/2020 2:14 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

This is another image of a chrysalis that I am developing, but in a more
natural setting.  This shows how the larva attaches itself to the milkweed
plant and then performs the metamorphosis to become a chrysalis.

http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2020/7/27/chrysalis-2

K-5 IIs, smc FA 100 mm Macro F 2.8, using monopod.
  Comments are invited and appreciated.

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Re: PESO - Back Garden 5

[ann sanfedele]

healthy lookin pretty flowers - but I still like the gate best as a 
photo. and the cherry tomatos second...


are you growing any other veggies?

ann

On 7/27/2020 8:50 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

A photo of another bit of our back garden.

https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/PESOs-2017/Back-Garden/i-FfZ39NZ/A

Rick




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PESO - Back Garden 5

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A photo of another bit of our back garden. 

https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/PESOs-2017/Back-Garden/i-FfZ39NZ/A

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Re: This pisses me off!

[Igor PDML-StR]

Similarly to that, Android phones are now (since Android 7) using 
Chrome in place of "WebView". Prior to that, WebView was a separate app, 
based on the Chrome's engine, Chromium.



Larry Colen Sun, 26 Jul 2020 23:48:23 -0700 wrote:

I suspect that W10 might use the Edge mechanicals for various UI things. 
The reason that you can't choose to not install it is because then without 
it your file viewer or suchlike won't work.



When it comes down to it, a browser is just a means of looking at files, 
and
it's arguably a lot more efficient to have everything in one place rather 
than

having a bunch of different programs with overlapping functionality.




On Jul 26, 2020, at 10:30 PM, John Francis  wrote:

On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 05:30:04PM -0400, John wrote:

I just installed the most recent Micro$oft "Security" Update and it
installed their edge browser without my permission.

According to what I found on the internet, if you're running Windows 10 it
cannot be removed.


It might install it, but that doesn't mean it gets set as your default
browser.
Of course if you're dumb enough to click on the button they offer when they're
telling you about the wonderful new options you can get by using their browser
I assume it will go right ahead and do that, but I can't be certain about
that,
because I declined to click on that button.  I still have my default browser
of
choice.  I'm sure some other Microsoft software will insist on opening up Edge
if I ask it to display a web page, but so far I haven't run into that - 

those

Microsoft Apps I use most (Visual Studio and Excel/Word) still open up my way.



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Re: This pisses me off!

[John]

If they have to resort to lies, stealth & deception to install it it's not a 
security update, it's a virus!


If you don't care who controls your computer that's your problem.

I don't give a fuck how efficient it is for them. This is MY COMPUTER and they 
need MY PERMISSION to install software on it.




On 7/27/2020 11:31:36, P. J. Alling wrote:
Unfortunately efficiency is not always advised when security is an issue.  A 
secure browser, that has as few as possible connections, to the inner workings 
of your OS, seems to be a better option.


On 7/27/2020 2:47 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
I suspect that W10 might use the Edge mechanicals for various UI things.  The 
reason that you can't choose to not install it is because then without it your 
file viewer or suchlike won't work.


When it comes down to it, a browser is just a means of looking at files, and 
it's arguably a lot more efficient to have everything in one place rather than 
having a bunch of different programs with overlapping functionality.





On Jul 26, 2020, at 10:30 PM, John Francis  wrote:

On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 05:30:04PM -0400, John wrote:

I just installed the most recent Micro$oft "Security" Update and it
installed their edge browser without my permission.

According to what I found on the internet, if you're running Windows 10 it
cannot be removed.

It might install it, but that doesn't mean it gets set as your default browser.
Of course if you're dumb enough to click on the button they offer when they're
telling you about the wonderful new options you can get by using their browser
I assume it will go right ahead and do that, but I can't be certain about that,
because I declined to click on that button.  I still have my default browser of
choice.  I'm sure some other Microsoft software will insist on opening up Edge
if I ask it to display a web page, but so far I haven't run into that - those
Microsoft Apps I use most (Visual Studio and Excel/Word) still open up my way.




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Re: This pisses me off!

[John]

It reboots into a full screen *Setup* when you install the SECURITY update for 
Windoze 7. It tries to trick you into making it your default browser.


And it installs the icon on your task bar. Fait Accompli!

Tell me what that has to do with the SECURITY of my Operating System?

It's Internet Exploder vs Netscape all over again; Micro$oft using its monopoly 
power over the desktop to extend its monopoly and acquire monopoly control over 
the internet.


On 7/27/2020 01:30:00, John Francis wrote:

On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 05:30:04PM -0400, John wrote:

I just installed the most recent Micro$oft "Security" Update and it
installed their edge browser without my permission.

According to what I found on the internet, if you're running Windows 10 it
cannot be removed.


It might install it, but that doesn't mean it gets set as your default browser.
Of course if you're dumb enough to click on the button they offer when they're
telling you about the wonderful new options you can get by using their browser
I assume it will go right ahead and do that, but I can't be certain about that,
because I declined to click on that button.  I still have my default browser of
choice.  I'm sure some other Microsoft software will insist on opening up Edge
if I ask it to display a web page, but so far I haven't run into that - those
Microsoft Apps I use most (Visual Studio and Excel/Word) still open up my way.




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PESO: Little Frog

[Daniel J. Matyola]

A few weeks ago, we had a huge bullfrog in our swimming pool.  I posted an
image of that critter in a PESO here.

More recently, we have had a group of small frogs visiting our pool.  Over
the past week, we have fished out 2 dead ones, 2 live ones, and one that I
thought was dead but revived as I was examining it.

The one pictured below was the friendliest, and the most cooperative with
my photographic efforts.  After our photo session, I took him to a nearby
stream, and released him there.

The second image is solely to illustrate the size of these frogs;  it is
posed alongside a US quarter.

http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2020/7/27/tiny-frog

K-5 IIs, smc FA 100 mm Macro F 2.8, mounted on a light monopod.
Comments are invited and appreciated.

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Re: Neowise etc.

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Nice!

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On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 12:04 AM Larry Colen  wrote:

> I though my comet hunting was over on Friday night, but last night the
> skies were unusually clear, so despite the moon being up late I drove up
> one of the local logging roads I had recently discovered and got some
> decent shots of the comet, and astrolandscape in general.   I'm afraid that
> I don't have the requisite skill and tools to get these photos exactly
> right, particulary when working on my laptop, but they do show promise.  In
> addition to comet Neowise and some clear views of the milky way, there was
> enough meteor activity I even had a meteor photobomb a photo of M31.
>
> Neowise over Newport
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/50157642391/in/album-72157715253117593/
>
> Tree and Milky Way
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/50157878817/in/album-72157715253117593/
>
> meteoric photobomb
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/50157645491/in/album-72157715253117593/
>
> full set
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72157715253117593
>
> I hope y'all enjoy them.
>
> I was sure missing my K-1 last night.  The K-3 is a very competent camera,
> and I've actually been considering that the new APS flagship in many ways
> could out perform the K-1 (with technology that has a couple of Moore's law
> cycles advantage), but sometimes you just need the wider field of view from
> a bigger sensor.
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Re: PESO: Chrysalis

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks, Ann.

It is indeed quite jewel-like.  The chrysalis is bright jade green, and the
row of spots along the top, as well as the spots near the bottom, are
golden and shiny.

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On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 11:21 AM ann sanfedele  wrote:

> It ooks like some sort of bead used in jewelry making.. it almost glows
> ann
>
> On 7/27/2020 9:56 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> > Thanks, Larry.  They are endlessly fascinating.
> >
> > Dan Matyola
> > *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery
> > *
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 7:18 PM Larry Colen  wrote:
> >
> >> At first glance it looks like a hot pepper.
> >>
> >> Looking more closely you can see the pattern of the wings inside, very
> >> cool.
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Jul 25, 2020, at 3:44 PM, Daniel J. Matyola 
> >> wrote:
> >>> One of the Monarch chrysalises that have developed from my larvae came
> >>> loose and fell to the floor of the butterfly cage, so I decided to use
> it
> >>> as a photo model:
> >>>
> >>>
> http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2020/7/25/chrysalis
> >>>
> >>> K-5 IIs, smc FA 100 mm Macro F 2.8
> >>> Comments are invited and appreciated.
> >>>
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PESO: Another Chrysalis

[Daniel J. Matyola]

This is another image of a chrysalis that I am developing, but in a more
natural setting.  This shows how the larva attaches itself to the milkweed
plant and then performs the metamorphosis to become a chrysalis.

http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2020/7/27/chrysalis-2

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Re: OT: Matissescat

[ann sanfedele]

Thanks, John!   I'm happy with mine as well... one disappointment - all 
the detailed info that is on the listing is only on line.. (and the 
email I listed the details in here a while ago) - I thought it would be 
in with the product.  It is worth reading for care instructions.


Also - cafepress is always offering coupons having sales.. in the 
marketplace.. check those out before you buy - at the moment there is a 
slightly reduced price for a mask , but there is a big shipping discount 
(they say)..


Of course the more they cost you the more I gat LOL!  not that it is 
very much money - if a couple more people buy masks this month I'll 
likely get my cut sooner.


ann


On 7/27/2020 1:15 PM, John wrote:

The mask I ordered from Ann's cafe press site came today.

I am well pleased with it. It came with two PM2.5 charcoal filters & 
some little adjustment doohickeys for the ear loops in case they prove 
to be to generous for some heads.


I strongly urge any of you who still needs to acquire a mask to ship 
Ann's cafe press site.


https://www.cafepress.com/+ann-sanfedele+face-masks

I *AM* really pleased with mine.



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Re: What PENTAX Values Most in Future Cameras - more info on new APS-C flagship

[John]

On 7/27/2020 05:28:55, Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 26/7/20, Henk Terhell, discombobulated, unleashed:

A flip out screen is extremely useful in taking pictures of flowers and 
mushrooms or critters close to the ground. Also for landscapes when on a 
tripod. For me this is one of the most valued features of my K-1.


I also value a flip-out screen. But on top of that I prefer a fully
articulating screen that flips out, then can rotate in both directions, and
even fully close again with the screen facing inwards and not visible at all.
I have it on an Olympus Pen F and love it. So much so that I'm considering an
OM-D EM-1 mark II camera as another body with the same feature. (The original
OM-D EM-1 just has a flip-up screen.)

I'm really enjoying the M43 concept. I can easily get my head around the
lenses and their angle of acceptance, and there's some big bonuses,
particular at the long end. My A*85/1.4 is awesome on M43 and with the 5 axis
IS, is so usable handheld.

Actually I don't have any Oly lenses. The A*85 is joined by a 24/2.8 and a
50/1.4 - love using these lenses - they all have adapters on them for easy
swapping out.

The other two are Samyang 12/2 and Voigtlander 15/4.5

Enjoying the mirrorless life!




I really like the way the flip-out screen on the K-1 works.

I rarely use Live View, but the few times I have used it the articulating screen 
on the K-1 has been a treat. I'm also impressed by how sturdy it is.


I thought I had all the lenses I was ever going to want after scoring the 
FA600/4, but somehow the D FA 85/1.4 has managed to insinuate itself into my 
Christmas wish list.


Too bad I'm too poor to have Christmas in July.


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OT: Matissescat

[John]

The mask I ordered from Ann's cafe press site came today.

I am well pleased with it. It came with two PM2.5 charcoal filters & some little 
adjustment doohickeys for the ear loops in case they prove to be to generous for 
some heads.


I strongly urge any of you who still needs to acquire a mask to ship Ann's cafe 
press site.


https://www.cafepress.com/+ann-sanfedele+face-masks

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Re: What PENTAX Values Most in Future Cameras - more info on new APS-C flagship

[Paul Stenquist]

I frequently use the K-1’s articulated screen. All magazine art directors want 
the long lens ground level front 3/4 shot of race cars, exotics and muscle 
cars. With the flip up screen I no longer have to get down on the ground, a 
maneuver that grows more difficult with every passing year.

Paul

> On Jul 27, 2020, at 10:01 AM, Henk Terhell  wrote:
> 
> I also own a Ref Con A , but it is of no value for shooting small flowers or 
> mushrooms with the camera near the ground unless you lay down.
> Last time I used this angle viewer,  the plastic holder of the glass of the 
> viewfinder of my MZ-S was damaged so since then  I never take off the rubber 
> protection piece.
> Many times for mushrooms I either use a bean bag or a wooden plate with an 
> Arca-Swiss clamp screwed on top, so the viewfinder is too low.
> 
> Henk
> 
>  Op 2020-07-26 om 23:56 schreef Ken Waller:
>> When I need that feature on my dslr I have a Ref Con A, which I seldom use 
>> and a tall enough tripod so I don’t have to stoop over.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Henk Terhell 
>>> Subject: Re: What PENTAX Values Most in Future Cameras - more info on new 
>>> APS-C flagship
>>> 
>>> A flip out screen is extremely useful in taking pictures of flowers and
>>> mushrooms or critters close to the ground. Also for landscapes when on a
>>> tripod.
>>> For me this is one of the most valued features of my K-1.
>>> 
>>> Henk
>>> 
>>> Op 2020-07-23 om 18:07 schreef Ken Waller:
 I have a Nikon Coolpix camera with a flip out/up view screen, and while 
 I’ve used the feature a few times it would not be a deal killer if a 
 camera I was interested in didn’t have the feature.
 
 
 -Original Message-
> From: "P. J. Alling" 
> Subject: Re: What PENTAX Values Most in Future Cameras - more info on new 
> APS-C flagship
> 
> I don't know, I think I'd buy it, a flippy screen is just something else
> to break, though I can see it's usefulness in some circumstances.
> 
> The new Prism looks like it could be duplicated by just using a O-ME53
> which I've been using since I got my *ist-Ds.  It's not perfect but it
> does give a view pretty close to an LX with a standard prism finder.
> Probably not the highest viewfinder magnification, but good enough.
> 
> I'm just glad that they haven't abandoned the high end APS-C DSLR segment.
> 
> On 7/22/2020 10:18 AM, Henk Terhell wrote:
>> The button on the back on the left side above the panel shows no
>> symbol or text.
>> Perhaps it is attached to a spring for the panel to open.
>> Selling a new top camera with a fixed panel will be a mission impossible.
>> 
>> Henk
>> 
>> Op 2020-07-22 om 15:16 schreef Pete McIntosh:
>>> At 20:21 in the 2nd video there's a good shot of the back. The LCD
>>> looks (to me) to be fixed.
>>> 
>>> Ciao,
>>> 
>>> Pete Mac in Melbourne
>>> 
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Re: This pisses me off!

[P. J. Alling]

Unfortunately efficiency is not always advised when security is an 
issue.  A secure browser, that has as few as possible connections, to 
the inner workings of your OS, seems to be a better option.


On 7/27/2020 2:47 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

I suspect that W10 might use the Edge mechanicals for various UI things.  The 
reason that you can't choose to not install it is because then without it your 
file viewer or suchlike won't work.

When it comes down to it, a browser is just a means of looking at files, and 
it's arguably a lot more efficient to have everything in one place rather than 
having a bunch of different programs with overlapping functionality.




On Jul 26, 2020, at 10:30 PM, John Francis  wrote:

On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 05:30:04PM -0400, John wrote:

I just installed the most recent Micro$oft "Security" Update and it
installed their edge browser without my permission.

According to what I found on the internet, if you're running Windows 10 it
cannot be removed.

It might install it, but that doesn't mean it gets set as your default browser.
Of course if you're dumb enough to click on the button they offer when they're
telling you about the wonderful new options you can get by using their browser
I assume it will go right ahead and do that, but I can't be certain about that,
because I declined to click on that button.  I still have my default browser of
choice.  I'm sure some other Microsoft software will insist on opening up Edge
if I ask it to display a web page, but so far I haven't run into that - those
Microsoft Apps I use most (Visual Studio and Excel/Word) still open up my way.

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Re: PESO: Chrysalis

[ann sanfedele]

It ooks like some sort of bead used in jewelry making.. it almost glows
ann

On 7/27/2020 9:56 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Thanks, Larry.  They are endlessly fascinating.

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On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 7:18 PM Larry Colen  wrote:


At first glance it looks like a hot pepper.

Looking more closely you can see the pattern of the wings inside, very
cool.



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wrote:

One of the Monarch chrysalises that have developed from my larvae came
loose and fell to the floor of the butterfly cage, so I decided to use it
as a photo model:

http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2020/7/25/chrysalis

K-5 IIs, smc FA 100 mm Macro F 2.8
Comments are invited and appreciated.

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Re: Neowise etc.

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Tree and Milky way , the one you selected below, is my fave here... I 
like the way the road leads to the tree and the milky way above it 
especially.


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On 7/27/2020 5:18 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 26/7/20, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:


Neowise over Newport
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/50157642391/in/album-72157715253117593/

Tree and Milky Way
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/50157878817/in/album-72157715253117593/

meteoric photobomb
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/50157645491/in/album-72157715253117593/

full set
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72157715253117593

I hope y'all enjoy them.

Great work as always Larry.






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Re: PESO: Chrysalis

[Alan C]

Interesting. We have a similar thing here where the Diadem female & one 
form of the Mocker Swallowtail female mimic the African Monarch. There 
are several Acraea species which mimic the African Monarch too but they 
are toxic anyway.


Alan C

On 27-Jul-20 04:01 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Thanks for looking, Alan.

In nature, of course, the majority do not survive, for many reasons.
Monarch larvae feed only on milkweed, which is toxic to most critters.  For
that reason, Monarchs have fewer natural predators than other insects.
(The Viceroy evolved to look very similar to the Monarch, so that, even
though it is not toxic, many predators avoid it.)  Still, many are lost to
excessive wind and water and other hazards.

I did not attempt to rehang the chrysalis.  I tried to avoid handling it as
much as possible.  Instead, I placed it on a paper towel in a dry and safe
location, as recommended by Monarch Watch.

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On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 12:47 AM Alan C  wrote:


Lucky for that one. In nature it would probably become a tasty morsel.
Did you perhaps re-hang it?

Alan C

On 26-Jul-20 12:44 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

One of the Monarch chrysalises that have developed from my larvae came
loose and fell to the floor of the butterfly cage, so I decided to use it
as a photo model:

http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2020/7/25/chrysalis

K-5 IIs, smc FA 100 mm Macro F 2.8
Comments are invited and appreciated.

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Re: PESO: Chrysalis

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks for looking, Alan.

In nature, of course, the majority do not survive, for many reasons.
Monarch larvae feed only on milkweed, which is toxic to most critters.  For
that reason, Monarchs have fewer natural predators than other insects.
(The Viceroy evolved to look very similar to the Monarch, so that, even
though it is not toxic, many predators avoid it.)  Still, many are lost to
excessive wind and water and other hazards.

I did not attempt to rehang the chrysalis.  I tried to avoid handling it as
much as possible.  Instead, I placed it on a paper towel in a dry and safe
location, as recommended by Monarch Watch.

Dan Matyola
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On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 12:47 AM Alan C  wrote:

> Lucky for that one. In nature it would probably become a tasty morsel.
> Did you perhaps re-hang it?
>
> Alan C
>
> On 26-Jul-20 12:44 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> > One of the Monarch chrysalises that have developed from my larvae came
> > loose and fell to the floor of the butterfly cage, so I decided to use it
> > as a photo model:
> >
> > http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2020/7/25/chrysalis
> >
> > K-5 IIs, smc FA 100 mm Macro F 2.8
> > Comments are invited and appreciated.
> >
> > Dan Matyola
> > *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery
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Re: What PENTAX Values Most in Future Cameras - more info on new APS-C flagship

[Henk Terhell]

I also own a Ref Con A , but it is of no value for shooting small 
flowers or mushrooms with the camera near the ground unless you lay down.
Last time I used this angle viewer,  the plastic holder of the glass of 
the viewfinder of my MZ-S was damaged so since then  I never take off 
the rubber protection piece.
Many times for mushrooms I either use a bean bag or a wooden plate with 
an Arca-Swiss clamp screwed on top, so the viewfinder is too low.


Henk

 Op 2020-07-26 om 23:56 schreef Ken Waller:

When I need that feature on my dslr I have a Ref Con A, which I seldom use and 
a tall enough tripod so I don’t have to stoop over.


-Original Message-

From: Henk Terhell 
Subject: Re: What PENTAX Values Most in Future Cameras - more info on new APS-C 
flagship

A flip out screen is extremely useful in taking pictures of flowers and
mushrooms or critters close to the ground. Also for landscapes when on a
tripod.
For me this is one of the most valued features of my K-1.

Henk

Op 2020-07-23 om 18:07 schreef Ken Waller:

I have a Nikon Coolpix camera with a flip out/up view screen, and while I’ve 
used the feature a few times it would not be a deal killer if a camera I was 
interested in didn’t have the feature.


-Original Message-

From: "P. J. Alling" 
Subject: Re: What PENTAX Values Most in Future Cameras - more info on new APS-C 
flagship

I don't know, I think I'd buy it, a flippy screen is just something else
to break, though I can see it's usefulness in some circumstances.

The new Prism looks like it could be duplicated by just using a O-ME53
which I've been using since I got my *ist-Ds.  It's not perfect but it
does give a view pretty close to an LX with a standard prism finder.
Probably not the highest viewfinder magnification, but good enough.

I'm just glad that they haven't abandoned the high end APS-C DSLR segment.

On 7/22/2020 10:18 AM, Henk Terhell wrote:

The button on the back on the left side above the panel shows no
symbol or text.
Perhaps it is attached to a spring for the panel to open.
Selling a new top camera with a fixed panel will be a mission impossible.

Henk

Op 2020-07-22 om 15:16 schreef Pete McIntosh:

At 20:21 in the 2nd video there's a good shot of the back. The LCD
looks (to me) to be fixed.

Ciao,

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Re: PESO: Chrysalis

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks, Larry.  They are endlessly fascinating.

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On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 7:18 PM Larry Colen  wrote:

> At first glance it looks like a hot pepper.
>
> Looking more closely you can see the pattern of the wings inside, very
> cool.
>
>
> > On Jul 25, 2020, at 3:44 PM, Daniel J. Matyola 
> wrote:
> >
> > One of the Monarch chrysalises that have developed from my larvae came
> > loose and fell to the floor of the butterfly cage, so I decided to use it
> > as a photo model:
> >
> > http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2020/7/25/chrysalis
> >
> > K-5 IIs, smc FA 100 mm Macro F 2.8
> > Comments are invited and appreciated.
> >
> > Dan Matyola
> > *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery
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Re: What PENTAX Values Most in Future Cameras - more info on new APS-C flagship

[Henk Terhell]

I wouldn't mind mirrorless with its inherent light weight, but with all 
my Pentax lenses I'm hesitant to change brands.
And it is so useful now to be able to switch lenses of FF and APS-C in 
the Pentax system without any converters.
The K-1 is a perfect camera but not for carrying on long walks if 
combined with a tele.
As a walk-around camera I much like my K-5 with a small lens as the DA 
21/3.2,  but the fixed back screen is sometimes a handicap.
A compact APS-C with improved sensor and flip-out screen would therefore 
be on my wish list for Santa Claus.
In fact both K-70 and KP are good choices and we haven't seen yet what 
the new flagship has more to offer than a better prisma and two card slots.


Henk

Op 2020-07-27 om 11:28 schreef Steve Cottrell:

On 26/7/20, Henk Terhell, discombobulated, unleashed:


A flip out screen is extremely useful in taking pictures of flowers and
mushrooms or critters close to the ground. Also for landscapes when on a
tripod.
For me this is one of the most valued features of my K-1.

I also value a flip-out screen. But on top of that I prefer a fully 
articulating screen that flips out, then can rotate in both directions, and 
even fully close again with the screen facing inwards and not visible at all. I 
have it on an Olympus Pen F and love it. So much so that I'm considering an 
OM-D EM-1 mark II camera as another body with the same feature. (The original 
OM-D EM-1 just has a flip-up screen.)

I'm really enjoying the M43 concept. I can easily get my head around the lenses 
and their angle of acceptance, and there's some big bonuses, particular at the 
long end. My A*85/1.4 is awesome on M43 and with the 5 axis IS, is so usable 
handheld.

Actually I don't have any Oly lenses. The A*85 is joined by a 24/2.8 and a 
50/1.4 - love using these lenses - they all have adapters on them for easy 
swapping out.

The other two are Samyang 12/2 and Voigtlander 15/4.5

Enjoying the mirrorless life!





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Re: What PENTAX Values Most in Future Cameras - more info on new APS-C flagship

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 27.07.20 um 11:28 schrieb Steve Cottrell:


I also value a flip-out screen.


What's the general consensus on the longevity of flip-out screens on
cameras? I suppose that the flexible conductors used to connect them
will break sooner or later, much like they do in other articulated parts
of laptop computers, hifi equipment etc.

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Re: Neowise etc.

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> On Jul 27, 2020, at 2:18 AM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> On 26/7/20, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
>> Neowise over Newport
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/50157642391/in/album-72157715253117593/
>> 
>> Tree and Milky Way
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/50157878817/in/album-72157715253117593/
>> 
>> meteoric photobomb
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/50157645491/in/album-72157715253117593/
>> 
>> full set
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72157715253117593
>> 
>> I hope y'all enjoy them.
> 
> Great work as always Larry.

Thanks




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Re: What PENTAX Values Most in Future Cameras - more info on new APS-C flagship

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On 26/7/20, Henk Terhell, discombobulated, unleashed:

>A flip out screen is extremely useful in taking pictures of flowers and 
>mushrooms or critters close to the ground. Also for landscapes when on a 
>tripod.
>For me this is one of the most valued features of my K-1.

I also value a flip-out screen. But on top of that I prefer a fully 
articulating screen that flips out, then can rotate in both directions, and 
even fully close again with the screen facing inwards and not visible at all. I 
have it on an Olympus Pen F and love it. So much so that I'm considering an 
OM-D EM-1 mark II camera as another body with the same feature. (The original 
OM-D EM-1 just has a flip-up screen.)

I'm really enjoying the M43 concept. I can easily get my head around the lenses 
and their angle of acceptance, and there's some big bonuses, particular at the 
long end. My A*85/1.4 is awesome on M43 and with the 5 axis IS, is so usable 
handheld.

Actually I don't have any Oly lenses. The A*85 is joined by a 24/2.8 and a 
50/1.4 - love using these lenses - they all have adapters on them for easy 
swapping out.

The other two are Samyang 12/2 and Voigtlander 15/4.5

Enjoying the mirrorless life!


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Re: Neowise etc.

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On 26/7/20, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Neowise over Newport
>https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/50157642391/in/album-72157715253117593/
>
>Tree and Milky Way
>https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/50157878817/in/album-72157715253117593/
>
>meteoric photobomb
>https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/50157645491/in/album-72157715253117593/
>
>full set
>https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72157715253117593
>
>I hope y'all enjoy them.

Great work as always Larry.




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Re: This pisses me off!

[Larry Colen]

I suspect that W10 might use the Edge mechanicals for various UI things.  The 
reason that you can't choose to not install it is because then without it your 
file viewer or suchlike won't work.

When it comes down to it, a browser is just a means of looking at files, and 
it's arguably a lot more efficient to have everything in one place rather than 
having a bunch of different programs with overlapping functionality.



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> 
> On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 05:30:04PM -0400, John wrote:
>> I just installed the most recent Micro$oft "Security" Update and it
>> installed their edge browser without my permission.
>> 
>> According to what I found on the internet, if you're running Windows 10 it
>> cannot be removed.
> 
> It might install it, but that doesn't mean it gets set as your default 
> browser.
> Of course if you're dumb enough to click on the button they offer when they're
> telling you about the wonderful new options you can get by using their browser
> I assume it will go right ahead and do that, but I can't be certain about 
> that,
> because I declined to click on that button.  I still have my default browser 
> of
> choice.  I'm sure some other Microsoft software will insist on opening up Edge
> if I ask it to display a web page, but so far I haven't run into that - those
> Microsoft Apps I use most (Visual Studio and Excel/Word) still open up my way.
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