Re: OT: 30 Landscapes You Won't Believe Are in the U.S.

[John Francis]

On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 11:04:25AM -0400, John wrote:
> I've been to 5 of them as an adult; 7 if you count Yosemite that my parents
> took the kids to see back during one of the two California trips that
> included me.

Hmm.  I'm pretty sure I've been to more than that.  Let's see:

Acadia, Bryce Canyon, Death Valley, Grand Canyon, King's Canyon, Sequoia, 
Yosemite, Zion.
(It certainly helps living in California; all but one of those we've visited by 
driving
from home since we moved here 25 years ago.  Acadia we visited when we lived 
back east,
and took our local Girl Scout troop camping in Acadia one year).

I've been to Yosemite more than once.  Larry and I took a quick trip out there 
when I had
just purchased my K5.  One of these years I'll get out there during the spring 
snowmelt.

My bucket list includes Joshua Tree and the parks in Oregon and Washington 
(state).
I suppose I should visit my closest one, too - Pinnacles - it's visible from 
around here.


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PESO - Weekday Afternoon at the Beach

[Rick Womer]

This was a ways north of where we stayed. On weekends it was different.

https://photos.smugmug.com/New-Hampshire-Aug-2020/Weekday-Afternoon-at-the-Beach/i-Vp9K7Bp/0/caf87329/X3/Weekday%20Afternoon%20at%20the%20Beach-X3.jpg

or 

https://tinyurl.com/y2wwntsu

(Smugmug has made some changes that I’m not used to yet…)

(K-5, DA 17-70)

Comments appreciated!

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Re: OT: 30 Landscapes You Won't Believe Are in the U.S.

[John]

Clickbait?

Here's a thought ... Search Flickr for "National Parks, U.S., Pentax"

https://www.flickr.com/search/?text=National%20Parks%2C%20U.S.%2C%20Pentax

I bet you can do the same for whatever country you're located in. See what the 
photographers in your location are posting.



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September PUG - Last Call

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G'day all and Happy Downunder Spring

Seven submissions so far. I'm aiming on closing this one on Wednesday evening 3
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Re: How to present Panoramic photos?

[Larry Colen]

> On Aug 31, 2020, at 8:35 AM, John  wrote:
> 
> On 8/27/2020 23:00:02, Igor PDML-StR wrote:
>> Hi All!
>> Some PDMLers have been shooting and producing panoramic shots, including 
>> some great ones.
>> I like panoramas, and I occasionally make them, but not very often. And one 
>> of the reasons is I don't know how to post them for effective and efficient 
>> viewing.
>> I was wondering if anybody has found any good way to display those online, 
>> or even did any research on what is available out there.
>> Igor
> 
> You can upload something like this to Flickr:
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/9690539472/

That’s very reminiscent of one of mine that I call Piper Club

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/46764798035/

I let our hosts pick a couple of my prints as thank you gifts, and the 12x36 
metal of this is the one the husband picked.


> 
> There may be an upper limit to the size of a panorama you can upload, but as 
> far as I can remember, the only reason I didn't upload the full size image 
> (3,600 x 10,800) is because to make it so anyone on PDML could see it has to 
> be "public" and I think that makes it so anyone can also download it [1], and 
> I didn't want to be giving away the full size image.
> 
> The full size image makes an awesome print.
> 
> I used to be able to print it full size (12"x36") as a C-print at Costco for 
> $5, but the guy who knew how to do that isn't there any more.

It could be worse, my local costco no longer does prints.  The closest one that 
does is like 45 minutes away.


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Re: How to present Panoramic photos?

[Toine]

Yes a suitable wall is the real problem.

On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 at 17:58, John  wrote:

> Any good pro-lab should be able to do the print.
>
> At 30cm wide, how long would it be? I'm guessing about 240cm (2.4m)
>
> I wouldn't try to frame it, just have it mounted on Gator-Board.
>
> https://www.gator-board.com/
>
> The real problem is finding a wall suitable for displaying it after you've
> printed it.
>
> On 8/28/2020 03:45:42, Toine wrote:
> >   > Good panoramas do seem to benefit from being printed on metal, at
> least
> > 8" (20cm) tall and however wide, preferably 12' (30cm).
> >
> > Yes! I still haven't solved how to print and frame this one:
> > https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/panorama/content/no-title-55/lightbox/
> >
> > On Fri, 28 Aug 2020 at 09:24, Larry Colen  wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Aug 27, 2020, at 8:00 PM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hi All!
> >>>
> >>> Some PDMLers have been shooting and producing panoramic shots,
> including
> >> some great ones.
> >>> I like panoramas, and I occasionally make them, but not very often. And
> >> one of the reasons is I don't know how to post them for effective and
> >> efficient viewing.
> >>>
> >>> I was wondering if anybody has found any good way to display those
> >> online, or even did any research on what is available out there.
> >>
> >> My feeling is that there really is no good way to display panoramas
> >> online. One might argue that there is no good way to display any photo
> >> online, because you have no control over how it is viewed.  If someone
> is
> >> looking at your photo on a phone the technical quality doesn't really
> >> matter very much, and the artistic quality doesn't matter much more.
> >>
> >> Good panoramas do seem to benefit from being printed on metal, at least
> 8"
> >> (20cm) tall and however wide, preferably 12' (30cm).
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Igor
> >>>
> >>>
>
>
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PESO 2020 - 199 - GDG

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

It's 7:30am, Monday, August 31, 2020. 

The evacuation notices for the wildfire cluster in the Santa Cruz Mountains 
20-30 miles away have been lifted, but there are still uncontained burns going 
on there and in the fires to the Northeast, East, and South. The sun rises, and 
the baleful red light tinges everything, even the very air itself, as it rises 
through the trees and reflects the misery of this entire year so far.

Sun Rising in Still Smokey Air - Santa Clara 2020 
https://flic.kr/p/2jC1nqh

My heart goes out to the hundreds of families who have lost their homes and 
properties in the middle of this miserable year. 

Not the greatest of times. We must hope for better times ahead.

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world, and with time. Without trust, a man lives, but not a human life; without 
hope, he dies. When there is no relationship, where hands do not touch, emotion 
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only link left is that of owner to slave, or murderer to victim.” 

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Re: OT: 30 Landscapes You Won't Believe Are in the U.S.

[mike wilson]

> On 31 August 2020 at 15:15 John  wrote:
> 
> 
> On 8/27/2020 12:05:21, Bob Pdml wrote:
> > 
> >> On 27 Aug 2020, at 16:33, mike wilson  wrote:
> >>
> >> 
>  On 27 August 2020 at 15:51 Mark Roberts  
>  wrote:
> 
> 
>  Bob Pdml wrote:
> 
>  A strange article really because it seems to me that most of the US 
>  places
>  are better known than the places they’re compared to. Anyone who is aware
>  of the foreign places is probably also aware of the US places, so they
>  certainly will believe they are in the US.
> >>>
> >>> National Geographic has been dumbed down considerably since Rupert
> >>> Murdoch bought it.
> >>
> >> What I don't believe is how many grizzled sceptics fell for a clickbait 
> >> title.
> > 
> > You’ll cry when you see the last one
> > 
> 
> Why?

He's trying to get you to look.  When you realise you've been tricked..

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Re: PESO - Storm Approaching

[ann sanfedele]

John - use this link - you don't need to log in to smugmug

https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/New-Hampshire-2020/i-Tnxh2Gh/A
ann

On 8/31/2020 12:09 PM, John wrote:
Oops again. It wants me to log in to my SmugMug account. I don't have 
a SmugMug account.


... although it says I can start a free trial.

On 8/30/2020 13:07:32, Rick Womer wrote:

Oops!

Indeed there was!

https://www.smugmug.com/app/organize/New-Hampshire-2020/i-Tnxh2Gh


On Aug 30, 2020, at 12:34 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:




On Aug 30, 2020, at 9:27 AM, Rick Womer  wrote:

We returned home a week ago from a two-week vacation in New 
Hampshire. Our son and daughter joined us.


The weather was warm but clear the first week, and cool but clear 
the second. In between a cold front came through, and I took this 
as it approached.


Comments always appreciated!


I can see nothing wrong with the photo.  Can’t see anything right 
either.


Maybe if there was a link?











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Re: OT: 30 Landscapes You Won't Believe Are in the U.S.

[John]

On 8/31/2020 11:02:58, mike wilson wrote:



On 31 August 2020 at 15:15 John  wrote:


On 8/27/2020 12:05:21, Bob Pdml wrote:



On 27 Aug 2020, at 16:33, mike wilson  wrote:



On 27 August 2020 at 15:51 Mark Roberts  wrote:


Bob Pdml wrote:

A strange article really because it seems to me that most of the US places
are better known than the places they’re compared to. Anyone who is aware
of the foreign places is probably also aware of the US places, so they
certainly will believe they are in the US.


National Geographic has been dumbed down considerably since Rupert
Murdoch bought it.


What I don't believe is how many grizzled sceptics fell for a clickbait title.


You’ll cry when you see the last one



Why?


He's trying to get you to look.  When you realise you've been tricked..



... I'm going to cry. Ok. Now I get it.

Except that I had already looked and I didn't cry.

A couple of them made me almost want to cry because I'm afraid I'm never going 
to get to see them in person.



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Re: PESO - Storm Approaching

[John]

Oops again. It wants me to log in to my SmugMug account. I don't have a SmugMug 
account.


... although it says I can start a free trial.

On 8/30/2020 13:07:32, Rick Womer wrote:

Oops!

Indeed there was!

https://www.smugmug.com/app/organize/New-Hampshire-2020/i-Tnxh2Gh


On Aug 30, 2020, at 12:34 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:




On Aug 30, 2020, at 9:27 AM, Rick Womer  wrote:

We returned home a week ago from a two-week vacation in New Hampshire. Our son 
and daughter joined us.

The weather was warm but clear the first week, and cool but clear the second. 
In between a cold front came through, and I took this as it approached.

Comments always appreciated!


I can see nothing wrong with the photo.  Can’t see anything right either.

Maybe if there was a link?









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Re: PESO 2020 - 199 - GDG

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 31.08.20 um 17:16 schrieb Godfrey DiGiorgi:


Not the greatest of times. We must hope for better times ahead.


It's all relative. When I feel like things are really bad, I think of my
grandmother, born in 1905. She lived through two world wars, the
economic crash of 1927, lost her husband in a stupid war neither she nor
he had wanted, at the age of 37, brought up her four children on her own
by cleaning other peoples' homes and businesses and still remained one
of the most gentle and loveable persons I've ever met.

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Re: How to present Panoramic photos?

[John]

Any good pro-lab should be able to do the print.

At 30cm wide, how long would it be? I'm guessing about 240cm (2.4m)

I wouldn't try to frame it, just have it mounted on Gator-Board.

https://www.gator-board.com/

The real problem is finding a wall suitable for displaying it after you've 
printed it.


On 8/28/2020 03:45:42, Toine wrote:

  > Good panoramas do seem to benefit from being printed on metal, at least
8" (20cm) tall and however wide, preferably 12' (30cm).

Yes! I still haven't solved how to print and frame this one:
https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/panorama/content/no-title-55/lightbox/

On Fri, 28 Aug 2020 at 09:24, Larry Colen  wrote:





On Aug 27, 2020, at 8:00 PM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:


Hi All!

Some PDMLers have been shooting and producing panoramic shots, including

some great ones.

I like panoramas, and I occasionally make them, but not very often. And

one of the reasons is I don't know how to post them for effective and
efficient viewing.


I was wondering if anybody has found any good way to display those

online, or even did any research on what is available out there.

My feeling is that there really is no good way to display panoramas
online. One might argue that there is no good way to display any photo
online, because you have no control over how it is viewed.  If someone is
looking at your photo on a phone the technical quality doesn't really
matter very much, and the artistic quality doesn't matter much more.

Good panoramas do seem to benefit from being printed on metal, at least 8"
(20cm) tall and however wide, preferably 12' (30cm).




Igor





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Re: PESO 2020 - 199 - GDG

[Daniel J. Matyola]

That image says it all very effectively.

Dan Matyola
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On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 11:17 AM Godfrey DiGiorgi 
wrote:

> It's 7:30am, Monday, August 31, 2020.
>
> The evacuation notices for the wildfire cluster in the Santa Cruz
> Mountains 20-30 miles away have been lifted, but there are still
> uncontained burns going on there and in the fires to the Northeast, East,
> and South. The sun rises, and the baleful red light tinges everything, even
> the very air itself, as it rises through the trees and reflects the misery
> of this entire year so far.
>
> Sun Rising in Still Smokey Air - Santa Clara 2020
> https://flic.kr/p/2jC1nqh
>
> My heart goes out to the hundreds of families who have lost their homes
> and properties in the middle of this miserable year.
>
> Not the greatest of times. We must hope for better times ahead.
>
> G
> —
> “Hope is a slighter, tougher thing even than trust... In a good season one
> trusts life; in a bad season one only hopes. But they are of the same
> essence: they are the mind's indispensable relationship with other minds,
> with the world, and with time. Without trust, a man lives, but not a human
> life; without hope, he dies. When there is no relationship, where hands do
> not touch, emotion atrophies in void and intelligence goes sterile and
> obsessed. Between men the only link left is that of owner to slave, or
> murderer to victim.”
>
>  — City of Illusions, Ursula K. Le Guin
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Re: How to present Panoramic photos?

[John]

On 8/27/2020 23:00:02, Igor PDML-StR wrote:


Hi All!

Some PDMLers have been shooting and producing panoramic shots, including some 
great ones.
I like panoramas, and I occasionally make them, but not very often. And one of 
the reasons is I don't know how to post them for effective and efficient viewing.


I was wondering if anybody has found any good way to display those online, or 
even did any research on what is available out there.



Igor




You can upload something like this to Flickr:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/9690539472/

There may be an upper limit to the size of a panorama you can upload, but as far 
as I can remember, the only reason I didn't upload the full size image (3,600 x 
10,800) is because to make it so anyone on PDML could see it has to be "public" 
and I think that makes it so anyone can also download it [1], and I didn't want 
to be giving away the full size image.


The full size image makes an awesome print.

I used to be able to print it full size (12"x36") as a C-print at Costco for $5, 
but the guy who knew how to do that isn't there any more.


[1]Maybe if you get a Pro account you can control that?

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Re: OT: 30 Landscapes You Won't Believe Are in the U.S.

[John]

I've been to 5 of them as an adult; 7 if you count Yosemite that my parents took 
the kids to see back during one of the two California trips that included me.


We had an hour at the Yosemite visitor center before "back in the car kids we 
got to go".


From there my dad took the road that goes around the north side of the park, 
stopping at one of the roadside picnic areas for a late lunch.


Which put us going through Death Valley in the middle of the night on the way to 
Las Vegas where we had breakfast at Howard Johnson's before heading on to drive 
across Hoover Dam.


On 8/27/2020 13:52:56, ann sanfedele wrote:
  umm O   but  considering the last photo was of the Hoh rain forest and to 
booth the comparison was of one in South America.. and our flaming forests

that was not a great photo for a joke these days!
anyway I needed to recount my stats -- for these places I've only been to  21 of 
the 30.. so 2/3rds .  I was thinking of how many National parks I'd been to,
which is very high if I eliminate Hawaii parks from the total...and still pretty 
high with them in.


more lockdown time recreational activites to do.. now where did I put that list 
of Np's...

ann


On 8/27/2020 1:01 PM, Bob Pdml wrote:
You won’t really cry, ann, it’s a click bait trick: “this man took 1,000 
pictures of his pet snail every day for a thousand years - don’t cry when you 
see the last one”



On 27 Aug 2020, at 17:44, ann sanfedele  wrote:

Now I have to look... (ok, look again - I should recount my hits anyway)

ann

On 8/27/2020 12:05 PM, Bob Pdml wrote:

On 27 Aug 2020, at 16:33, mike wilson  wrote:



On 27 August 2020 at 15:51 Mark Roberts  wrote:


Bob Pdml wrote:

A strange article really because it seems to me that most of the US places
are better known than the places they’re compared to. Anyone who is aware
of the foreign places is probably also aware of the US places, so they
certainly will believe they are in the US.

National Geographic has been dumbed down considerably since Rupert
Murdoch bought it.

What I don't believe is how many grizzled sceptics fell for a clickbait title.

You’ll cry when you see the last one






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Re: OT: 30 Landscapes You Won't Believe Are in the U.S.

[John]

On 8/27/2020 12:05:21, Bob Pdml wrote:



On 27 Aug 2020, at 16:33, mike wilson  wrote:



On 27 August 2020 at 15:51 Mark Roberts  wrote:


Bob Pdml wrote:

A strange article really because it seems to me that most of the US places
are better known than the places they’re compared to. Anyone who is aware
of the foreign places is probably also aware of the US places, so they
certainly will believe they are in the US.


National Geographic has been dumbed down considerably since Rupert
Murdoch bought it.


What I don't believe is how many grizzled sceptics fell for a clickbait title.


You’ll cry when you see the last one



Why?



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Re: Going home

[mike wilson]

> On 31 August 2020 at 01:46 Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> Just got home, there’s a light sprinkling of ash over everything outside, and 
> inside my house  it smells of Lagavulin.  It also looks like the people 
> leaving figured the place would burn down before they got a chance to clean 
> up.

That reads like people have been in while you were away.

> 
> > On Aug 30, 2020, at 4:03 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> > 
> > Evac has been lifted for my neighborhood, heading home now.
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Re: GESO: Hoover

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 31.08.20 um 06:42 schrieb Alan C:

Clearly: "There's no substitute for Mp"!


Of course there is: more MP.

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Re: Going home

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 31.08.20 um 01:03 schrieb Larry Colen:

Evac has been lifted for my neighborhood, heading home now.


Phew. Good luck and all the best.

Ralf

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Re: Going home

[Larry Colen]

> On Aug 30, 2020, at 11:32 PM, mike wilson  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On 31 August 2020 at 01:46 Larry Colen  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Just got home, there’s a light sprinkling of ash over everything outside, 
>> and inside my house  it smells of Lagavulin.  It also looks like the people 
>> leaving figured the place would burn down before they got a chance to clean 
>> up.
> 
> That reads like people have been in while you were away.

Nope, nobody was here.  Some looters did get busted about a km away, someone 
saw them on their home security camera and called the cops who caught them.  
Judging by the photos they looked like tweakers.

We’re going to leave most of the stuff in the trailer in case something 
happens.  Even so, it’ll take a couple days to clean stuff up, take advantage 
of so much being out of the house.


>> 
>>> On Aug 30, 2020, at 4:03 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Evac has been lifted for my neighborhood, heading home now.
>>> 
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