RE: PAW: From my recent trip to Northern AZ, and Southern UT.

2004-06-03 Thread Jeff Jonsson
Well, if it's of any interest, the four images I shot for my panorama,
It took maybe 10 seconds. Since it was handheld, I just hopped out of my
car with my *istD, walked over to the edge, snap, snap, snap, snap, with
the foreknowledge that I would be stitching them. Then when I got home,
and after I had loaded my images, and done some editing, I found those
4. I fired up panavue, and within maybe 10 minutes, I had the stitched
image. After a crop, and some image adjustment, voila. Very simple, very
easy, and I didn't have to lug around a tripod, or a heavy camera, or
wait for film processing, or pay for film or processing. I used to own a
Mamiya 6x6. I found myself never using it, and yearning for the *istD.
So I sold it, and haven't looked back.

Thanks,
Jeff Jonsson
Marriott Library, University of Utah
801.585.5587 

-Original Message-
From: J. C. O'Connell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 12:46 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: PAW: From my recent trip to Northern AZ, and Southern UT.



 Methinks you have this backwards from a practicality standpoint.
 Stitching multiple exposures is hardly a practical substitute For a 
 simple single LF image

Well of course it can't offer all the benefits of an LF image but for
wide high 
pixel count images the great works that are popping up here are
excellent 
examples of what can be achieved without investing in any extra kit but
a 
software package (of which there are free packages) and a little post 
processing.

==
Just a little post processing? What about all the time and effort to
take The photo? That's what I am talking about. I am sure I can setup
and Expose one large format photo much faster and easier than taking a
whole bunch Of little shots and spending more time stitching together.
And with a single LF Image at least you can see entire image for
composition and also shoot For the decisive moment, like waiting for
perfect sunset or the wind to die down, or the clouds to open up, not so
with multiple images and stitching.


One nice thing about stitching is you can go wider than you widest lens
For extreme wide angle photography. But you can do that with any format,
Dslr or LF.

JCO




RE: PAW Before the fishermen

2004-06-03 Thread Jeff Jonsson
Good shot, great technique. Don't you just love photoshop? Of course
some may say pictures are becoming hyper-real. They sure are pretty
though. -- Of course maybe with photoshop, our pictures are becoming
more about what WE perceive, than what the camera perceives...

Thanks,
Jeff Jonsson
Marriott Library, University of Utah
801.585.5587 

-Original Message-
From: Rob Studdert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 1:42 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PAW Before the fishermen


This PAW is the product of an experiment the focus of which was to
preserve the 
colours of the sun rise and sky in the image without sacrificing all
detail in 
its foreground. 

To form the image I selectively combined two shots from a +_1 stop
bracket in 
Photoshop. I pasted the darker image over the brightest image,
registered the 
images (set top layer opacity temporarily to 50%) and then set about 
selectively erasing the areas of the darker image (good sky) with a
feathered 
brush at 25% opacity until I came up this:

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2412599size=lg

It's not perfect but it gives me a lot of ideas for future images along
the 
same vein particularly given that it was only hand held.

Comments and criticisms welcome.

Cheers,


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998




RE: PAW: From my recent trip to Northern AZ, and Southern UT.

2004-06-02 Thread Jeff Jonsson
The FAJ had no problems with vignetting that I could see. There was
maybe 1/4 of the image overlap. It was all handheld. If the folks on the
list have never looked at or used Panavue ImageAssembler, ($64 from
www.panavue.com) let me tell you it's the absolute bomb. I tried lining
up the 4 shots using Photomerge in Photoshop CS. It was a joke. I
plugged them into Panavue, set my flags to the same points in each
photo, and voila, what you see is what you get. Panavue seems to look
closely at each photo and warp them just so, to produce one hell of a
nice panorama. The original is about 8000 x 2000 pixels. I have printed
it at 12 x 47 and I'm gonna have to redo it. I somehow got the color
balance all wrong and it just looks green. Ah the joys of print color
matching.

Thanks,
Jeff Jonsson
Marriott Library, University of Utah
801.585.5587 

-Original Message-
From: Rob Studdert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 6:19 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: PAW: From my recent trip to Northern AZ, and Southern UT.


On 1 Jun 2004 at 9:24, Jeff Jonsson wrote:

 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2407474

That's pretty amazing, well done. 

How did the FAJ hold up WRT vignetting and CA? How much overlap did you
allow 
and did you use a tripod and calibrated pano head?

What were the dimensions (in pixels) of the final composite and have you

printed it poster sized? :-)

Cheers,


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998




18-35 vs. 16-45.

2004-04-21 Thread Jeff Jonsson
Has anybody compared the optical quality of the two new aperture ring-less
lenses? I am going on a week long road trip through the Southwest next
month, and want to get a super-wide zoom for my *istD and was wondering if I
could get away with buying the far less expensive 18-35. Is there a third
party super-wide zoom that anyone would recommend for the *istD?

Thanks,
Jeff.




Re: 18-35 vs. 16-45.

2004-04-21 Thread Jeff Jonsson
Hmm, the lightness will seem different when I take my Tokina ATX Pro-II
28-70 off there. I think I may just go for the 18-35, because it's probably
all I can afford right now. I just wanted to see if anybody hated it.

Thanks,
Jeff.
- Original Message - 
From: Tanya Mayer Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 2:19 PM
Subject: Re: 18-35 vs. 16-45.


 Jeff, I see in a magazine today that Tamron has just released a 17-35mm DI
 (i think!) f2.8-4 lens.  The DI stands for Digitally Integrated, I think.
I
 could be mistaken though and have this confused with another lens as I had
a
 lazy night on the sofa reading lots of photography mags last night! lol.
 Anyways, the Tamron lens looks great, not sure how it is priced though.

 I have the FAJ 18-35mm.  I really like this lens.  I have been achieving
 some great results with it, and it really does offer bang for the buck.
 The only thing I believe that lets it down is that it feels so light, it
 makes me think that I am shooting with a toy! lol.  The results speak for
 themselves though, and this is obviously not the case.   Also, it is a bit
 slow - f5.6 at 35mm.

 At GFM, I will be able to compare the two, and I'll keep you posted.  Hope
 this helps some.

 tan.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Jeff Jonsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 2:59 AM
 Subject: 18-35 vs. 16-45.


  Has anybody compared the optical quality of the two new aperture
ring-less
  lenses? I am going on a week long road trip through the Southwest next
  month, and want to get a super-wide zoom for my *istD and was wondering
if
 I
  could get away with buying the far less expensive 18-35. Is there a
third
  party super-wide zoom that anyone would recommend for the *istD?
 
  Thanks,
  Jeff.
 
 
 





RE: *ist D sensor noise survey

2004-02-10 Thread Jeff Jonsson
Ok, what about actual dead pixels? Mine seems to have a couple. Does
anybody else see them, or should I be considering sending it back?

Jeff.

-Original Message-
From: Rob Studdert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 8:37 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: *ist D sensor noise survey


Hey it's a while since we had a survey...

I'm interested in making an informal survey of the noise performance of
our 
*ist D cameras. Anyone with access to a PC who has permission to run the
little 
test app at http://www.starzen.com/imaging/deadpixeltest.htm can
participate.

One exposure is all that's required for the test however in order to
achieve 
consistency we need to make sure that each camera is set up the same. I
propose 
that the test shot should be made as follows:

10 seconds manual exposure (lens capped)
200ISO
Daylight WB
NR off
Saturation setting (middle)
Sharpness setting (left most)
Contrast setting (left most)
sRGB CS
TIFF L file

The tiff file can then be opened and tested under the default settings
of the 
DeadPixelTest application and the information file saved.

I ran the procedure above and the results were as follows:

[DeadPixelText]
Version=1.0
Description=
FileType=TIFF
NumBadPixels=15
0=Hot,2798,135,69
1=Hot,1954,339,113
2=Hot,1809,585,64
3=Hot,726,610,112
4=Hot,726,611,192
5=Hot,726,612,112
6=Hot,2312,753,121
7=Hot,323,766,94
8=Hot,572,1365,116
9=Hot,1627,1400,64
10=Hot,2163,1958,96
11=Hot,2162,1959,113
12=Hot,2163,1959,145
13=Hot,2164,1959,112
14=Hot,2163,1960,98

The first two numbers is the pixel location and the last number is the
heat, 0 
being off and 255 being full on. So I have one pixel that's 3/4 on at 10

seconds.

If anyone would like to mail me their results I'll collate and publish
the data 
later down the track (I'll keep data sources anonymous if requested).

Cheers,


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998




RE: *ist D sensor noise survey

2004-02-10 Thread Jeff Jonsson
I haven't done the test, I can actually see the two pixels in my images.
They're stuck on, and appear as bright dots. The same two pixels in
every image, at least those with dark enough subject matter that they
can be seen. I have dead pixels in my Canon Powershot G1, but the canon
manual actually says that a certain few pixels will always die on the
chips they used. They show up larger in those 3MP images, than the two
pixels in the 6MP images from the *istD. The easiest way to spot dead
pixels is to take an exposure with your lens cap ON. I encourage list
members to try this, and let's see how many of you have them. If they
are to be expected, then we can all just accept them, if not, then those
of us that have them can send our cameras back to pentax for warranty
repair. 

Thanks,

Jeff.

-Original Message-
From: Rob Studdert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 4:33 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: *ist D sensor noise survey


On 10 Feb 2004 at 15:22, Jeff Jonsson wrote:

 Ok, what about actual dead pixels? Mine seems to have a couple. Does 
 anybody else see them, or should I be considering sending it back?

Doesn't sound so good, none of the six test results I've seen so far
show dead 
pixels.


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998




RE: D - Not Pentax but an interesting digital save...

2004-01-30 Thread Jeff Jonsson
Works for me.

Jeff.

-Original Message-
From: Tanya Mayer Photography [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 2:36 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: D - Not Pentax but an interesting digital save...


Ok, so you all know that I'm not shooting digital with Pentax, but this
is particularly relevant to all digital users.

Just wanted to show you something that I have just worked on from the
wedding I did on Monday.

This was a GROSSLY underexposed image.  Definitely one for the reject
pile, but something about the expressions on their faces wouldn't let me
ditch it.

So, thanks to digital, I was able to save it...

What do you all think of the results?  The full res. file has some
grain, as you would expect being underexposed, so I just added a bit
more for effect...

http://www.tanyamayer.com/experiment.jpg

I have made a lrvly 8x10 inch print from it!  Not bad for something
that would have been in the trash if it had been shot on film!

Also, thanks to you guys who advised me when I asked about using a 135mm
lens with flash that only zooms to 105mm, I have been using a flash in
manual with the Oly, and have been leaving it set at 28mm, through all
focal lengths.  This shot was taken at around 80mm, after a day of
stormy, humid weather and believe me the bride and groom were SHINY.  In
fact, the bride barely had any makeup left on at all, and the groom's
forehead, well, it actually had beads of perspiration along it.

You can see, I was directly in front of them, and the shadow on the
background is really quite soft. AND, there are NO hotspots on their
faces!! (There were a couple of tiny ones on their teeth that I PS'd)
Very little shine is present - the flash almost looks bounced, but it
wasn't - it was direct...

S, I have ditched my lumiquest stuff, and my stofen's and I am now
shooting everything with my flash set at 28mm, the results are so much
better.  It just means that the flash range isn't quite as high
(distance) and I simply move in a bit closer to accommodate...

This was at first, a risky way to go about things, and again, it was
only due to shooting digital and being able to immediately check the
results that I am now confident enough to use flash this way...

Any thoughts to add to this?

tan.




RE: OT: Notebook Problems :(! Operating System Not Found

2004-01-30 Thread Jeff Jonsson
I completely agree. The clicking is likely the read head arm wildly
moving back and forth between its stops, trying to align itself. Your HD
is giving up the ghost, and if you have data you want to save, save it
now!

Jeff.

-Original Message-
From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 3:10 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OT: Notebook Problems :(! Operating System Not Found


Ryan Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Completely off-topic but I was wondering if anyone's had this problem 
before on a laptop. Mine's being difficult lately and since yesterday 
I've turned it on several times only to have a black screen with the 
words 'Operating System Not Found' after the Compaq boot screen. This 
symptom's accompanied by a clicking noise from the harddrive. After 
about a million tries, its finally restarted this morning but I dare 
not say how long it'll be up for.

Sounds like major hard drive trouble brewing. Back up everything NOW!

Some research on the net suggests something like a loose IDE 
connection, which makes the comp not recognise a fixed drive.

Not very likely on a laptop but you never know.


-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com




RE: *ist D A24/2.8 vs FA24/2 comparision?

2004-01-27 Thread Jeff Jonsson
To my eye, the FA* 24 is actually displaying more chromatic abberation
than the A/24. Am I wrong?

Jeff.

-Original Message-
From: Dario Bonazza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 5:30 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: *ist D A24/2.8 vs FA24/2 comparision?


Rob, a sample (center and edge) is published in my *ist D test:
http://www.dariobonazza.com/t04p11e.htm

Browsing is slow now, maybe the web's got some problems today (or is it
just my ADSL provider?).

Dario

- Original Message -
From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 2:11 PM
Subject: *ist D A24/2.8 vs FA24/2 comparision?


 Has anyone compared the performance of the A24/2.8 and the FA24/2 on 
 the
*ist
 D?

 I'm not all that fussed with the size and the chromatic aberrations
(toward the
 image the edges) when it's used on the *ist D.

 Cheers,

 Rob Studdert
 HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
 Tel +61-2-9554-4110
 UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
 Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998





RE: Scanning Question

2004-01-27 Thread Jeff Jonsson
Actually being a scanning expert for my job I will try a response...

The Imacon Flextight is essentially a drum scanner, and as such has a
pretty good DMAX, 4.6 for the 646 to be precise. And, I'm not sure
(because it doesn't say in the BH big book) but I think it can do up to
16-bit grayscale. Of course TIFF only supports 8-bit grayscale, so if
you're scanning with TIFF files as your format of choice for the
end-result file, I wouldn't scan in RGB. You'll end up with a file
that's more than 3 times as large, and won't really gain any tonality
you won't get with a 16, or even 12 bit grayscale image. Obviously you
can only work with the 12 or 16 bit in Photoshop, and save as PSD, but
if you're down-converting to 8-bit grayscale for your TIFF, then
scanning in RGB is overkill by an order of magnitude. The Nikon Coolscan
8000 scans at 4000dpi, and again, can produce a 12-bit grayscale image.
Also, it has a DMAX of 4.2, it should pull out quite a bit of shadow
detail.

My opinion, as someone who has overseen the scanning of over 20,000
grayscale images at high resolution, RGB is just not useful, and you
won't get a better tonal range by doing it. In fact, if anything, you'll
just get a muddier image, and waste disk space.

Shel, please contact me directly if you need any more advice. I work at
the Marriott Library, at the University of Utah in the Digital
Technologies division. One of my primary job duties is managing workflow
of large-scale scanning operations. If you want to see some of our
output visit this website: http://www.lib.utah.edu/digital/digcol.html

Here at my shop, we use the Nikon Coolscan 8000, a Coolscan LS-2000, two
CreoScitex Eversmart Jazz+ flatbeds (true 2900 dpi across a 16x20
bed), a Leica S1 Digital scanning camera (effective 25MP) a Zeutschel
1 A1 bookscanner, and some other assorted scanning devices, so I
have some pretty good experience with high end equipment.

Thanks,
Jeff Jonsson
Digitization Systems Analyst, Marriott Library
801.585.5587

-Original Message-
From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 12:01 PM
To: PDML
Subject: Scanning Question


Hi gang ...

Over the next few weeks I'm going to attempt scanning a lot
of conventional BW negs.  I have heard a number of
conflicting opinions on the best way to do this.  Most
comments center around whether to scan in RGB or greyscale. 
Greyscale would be nice as I could save some space, but if
RBG will give higher quality results, I'll bite the bullet.

I have scanned using both methods before, although with the help of a
friend who did most of the work and setup, so I'm still pretty much
uneducated and inexperienced wrt the subtleties.

Scanners used will be an Imacon Flextight 626 (I believe
that's the number) and the Nikon Coolscan IV 4000dpi unit,
if that makes any difference.

Thanks for any help,

shel




RE: Scanning Question

2004-01-27 Thread Jeff Jonsson
Paul's advice works well if your scanner is only capable of scanning
grayscale at 8 bits. Also it helps if the DMAX of your scanner is below
4. However, with a 16-bit grayscale image, you'd have 65536 shades of
gray to play around with. And again, downconverting to a TIFF is gonna
strip out 65280 of those shades, however you will get the widest gamut
on your remaining 256 shades. Don't underestimate the power of your
high-end equipment to produce a better looking grayscale than a $100
flatbed scanner.

And you can always add sepia or selenium by using making a Pantone
Duotone of your grayscale image.

Jeff.

-Original Message-
From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 2:46 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Scanning Question


I scan BW negs in RGB. That way I can control the look of the gray or
tone them a bit toward a sepia or a selenium look if I wish. Plus, I
think I get better gradations of grayscale in RGB. When I want small
files I convert the scans to grayscale in PhotoShop after they've been
scanned, cleaned and adjusted. Paul

Shel Belinkoff wrote:

 Hi gang ...

 Over the next few weeks I'm going to attempt scanning a lot of 
 conventional BW negs.  I have heard a number of conflicting opinions 
 on the best way to do this.  Most comments center around whether to 
 scan in RGB or greyscale. Greyscale would be nice as I could save some

 space, but if RBG will give higher quality results, I'll bite the 
 bullet.

 I have scanned using both methods before, although with the help of a 
 friend who did most of the work and setup, so I'm still pretty much 
 uneducated and inexperienced wrt the subtleties.

 Scanners used will be an Imacon Flextight 626 (I believe that's the 
 number) and the Nikon Coolscan IV 4000dpi unit, if that makes any 
 difference.

 Thanks for any help,

 shel




RE: AF 400T and *ist D?

2004-01-23 Thread Jeff Jonsson
Got slightly bad news for you, The *istD has a problem with TTL flash
metering. It tends to be off about 1 or more stops with any TTL flash.
To minimize the problem, set the ISO to 400 as there has been some
speculation on the board that it works best there. Also, I've been using
an auto-flash (Vivitar 285HV) with the camera set manually, and I get a
very good exposure. It is also speculated on that the AF360FGZ with
P-TTL works better than any other TTL flash.

We're waiting for a TTL bug fix in the next firmware update from Pentax.

Jeff.

-Original Message-
From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 7:10 AM
To: pentax discuss
Subject: AF 400T and *ist D?


Can the AF 400T flash be used with the *ist D. Can it be used in TTL
mode? Can it be used in TTL mode with K or M lenses? Paul




RE: Tokina 28-70 f/2.6-2.8 Pro II

2004-01-22 Thread Jeff Jonsson
I have the Pro II, and I like it very much. I don't know if I have any
examples I can show right now, but I have been very pleased with the
results with my film bodies. I haven't used it much with my *istD. In
general, I'm not real thrilled with what I'm getting from my *istD in
general... Regardless of lens :(

Jeff

-Original Message-
From: Rothman, Aric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 11:42 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: Tokina 28-70 f/2.6-2.8 Pro II


Anyone use this lens?  If so, comments on, or links to web images made
with this lens would be much appreciated.  In particular, anyone use it
with the *ist D?

Aric

 -Original Message-
 From: Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 1:31 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Q: SMC-A 50mm f:2.8 Macro
 
 
  It's a good lens that might go for $150 if you were patient. A 50mm 
  Macro means you will get quite close to your subjects. You can use 
  it as a walking-around-lens, but you will notice the slower f2.8.
 
 Ditto, dito, and ditto.
 
  It has the reputation of being an excellent macro lens.
 
  Seems like the 50mm macro is a sharp little beast!
 
 It is a very nice 50mm macro lens.  It is just a tad less sharp than 
 the F/FA 50/2.8 Macro lens design, but it's s-o-o-o much nicer to use 
 (focus feel, etc.).
 
 I use an A 100/2.8 Macro lens for most of my macro shooting, but I 
 still keep an A 50/2.8 Macro lens around for occasional use 
 (especially for traveling light) - it's just too nice a little lens to

 let go of...
 
 Fred
 
 




RE: A bizarre ebay experience.

2004-01-15 Thread Jeff Jonsson
You can relist, but you're still gonna owe them the listing fee and
their cut on the purchase price. I'd send an two emails a day, and then
4 emails a day, and then an email an hour, etc. until I got a response.
They need to clear it up for you.

Jeff.

-Original Message-
From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 5:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: A bizarre ebay experience.


Yes, I filed a complaint with Safe Harbor. But thus far I haven't heard 
from anyone. I may just relist. The alleged buyer has not contacted me. 
Perhaps he only meant to place a first bid in order to track the 
auction.

On Jan 14, 2004, at 6:42 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

 Bruce Dayton wrote:

 Did anyone notice a recent change in the look of ebay - specifically 
 on the feedback page.  More usable and sortable for the feedback.  
 I'm not quite sure when it went in to effect, but, changes like that 
 could perhaps account for some odd problems elsewhere.  Obviously, 
 programming changes have occurred.  Maybe Paul is a victim of Ebay 
 bugs.

 Bruce

 YUp - feedback page change caused some errors
 getting on and loading
 today - very annoying... everytime they make
 things better they get
 worse.

 Paul, gosh - that sucks. but could be a hacker as
 someone said.
 Did you try contacting SAFE HARBOR?

 annsan



 Wednesday, January 14, 2004, 2:11:25 PM, you wrote:

 MWMK My question may be:  Is there a hack in the ebay system that
 allows
 MWMK buyers to trick ebay into thinking they won a BIN when it
 wasn't BIN?

 MWMK Second question:  Did you examine the headers of the email to
 be sure
 MWMK they came from ebay?

 MWMK IL Bill
 MWMK On Wednesday, January 14, 2004, at 04:00 PM, Paul Stenquist
 wrote:

 I'm the seller. And I'm scrupulous :-). My complaint is that ebay 
 accepted a buy it now bid, and this was not a buy it now auction.

 Rothman, Aric wrote:

 If you get no satisfaction, would you share the eBay ID of the
 seller?
 It's good to know from who to say away.

 There is a serious flaw in the feedback system at eBay.
 Unscrupulous
 sellers can hold you as a feedback hostage.  That is to say,
they
 will
 not supply feedback to a completed transaction until you do.  That
 way,
 they can retaliate with negative feedback if they swindle you and 
 you
 leave negative feedback for them.

 One eBay seller (and sizeable brick and mortar dealer) is Zeff
 Photo.
  Last time
 I checked, they have 100% positive feedback.  They shouldn't.  I
 purchased
 a Bronica EC with lens from them, and paid immediately using a 
 method
 they would
 accept.  That should equate to immediate positive feedback for me.

  I
 held
 up my end of the transaction.  The camera and lens has several
 immediately obvious
 defects not disclosed, and it locked up after a few shutter 
 triggers.
 I obtained return authorization and had it shipped back via FedEx.

  I
 was
 contacted a few days later and was informed the damage was due to
 RETURN trip
 to Zeff, and I would have to make a claim.  Since I am not aware
of
 any temporal
 anomalies in the vicinity which would cause damage manifest a few
 days earlier
 to have a cause several days later, I was skeptical, to say the 
 least.

 Long story short, I got a refund, but not for the significant 
 shipping charges accumulated during the whole ordeal.  Their eBay 
 guy told me I was lucky and he
 was doing me a favor.  Some favor, to the tune of $45 lost to
 unnecessary shipping
 expense

 Zeff Photo has a good reputation, but the guy
 who managed the eBay department did not give me a square deal, and
 he
 engages in
 this feedback withholding strategy I describe. I am in feedback 
 limbo
 with them.

 Aric

 -Original Message-
 From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 3:45 PM
 To: pentax discuss
 Subject: OT: A bizarre ebay experience.


 I'm very POed at ebay. Among other items, I listed a Spotmatic
 Motor
 Drive camera and 50mm lens on ebay the other night. I set a
 first bid of
 $375 and did not specifiy a buy it now price or a reserve.
 Last night I
 received a notice that the camera had been purchased on a buy
 it now bid
 by someone in Japan. I have tried replying to the ebay message to
 indicate that there is some kind of mistake. I've filed a report 
 with
 their mediation service, and I've written the purported
 buyer. All to no
 avail. I've heard from no one, and my auction has been down for
 almost
 20 hours. What's more, a list member had hoped to purchase the 
 camera
 and had planned to bid on the last day. I don't know how to 
 resolve
 this.







RE: OT: Kodak APS cameras

2004-01-15 Thread Jeff Jonsson
Nitrate film stock is responsible for the fire in the crowded theater
saying. Movie theaters would routinely catch fire while they were using
nitrate film. You know how movie films sometimes stick in the gate
during projection and you see a frame burn? Well with nitrate stock,
that would produce an explosion.

Jeff.

-Original Message-
From: Keith Whaley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 12:43 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OT: Kodak APS cameras


Okay, but what does the fact that silver negatives that last hundreds of
years have to do with a nitrate based film not being made anymore? It's
the nitrate that decomposes and becomes dangerous over time, not the
silver. It's the nitrate content that made the film industry abandon it
for use in movie film, and I'd guess later in home consumption films.

keith whaley

Herb Chong wrote:
 
 yeah, but people talk about silver negatives lasting hundreds of 
 years.
 
 Herb
 - Original Message -
 From: Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 3:47 AM
 Subject: Re: OT: Kodak APS cameras
 
  I don't think anyone has used a nitrate based film for dozens of 
  years, maybe 30!




RE: For sale Friday - oops.

2004-01-09 Thread Jeff Jonsson
Oops, Meant to reply about Joe Wilensky's post. He's the one selling the
PZ-1p kit. Same thing. Joe, don't do it!

Jeff Jonsson

-Original Message-
From: Jeff Jonsson 
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 8:13 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: For sale Friday


I wouldn't sell my PZ-1p for an *ist D. No way, no how. As far as I am
concerned, the PZ is still the best camera Pentax has ever produced.
(Not having ever played with an MZ-S.) 

I absolutely love my PZ-1p. I am still in the infatuation stage with my
*ist D. 

Jeff Jonsson

-Original Message-
From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 8:07 AM
To: pentax list
Subject: Re: For sale Friday


On 9/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

Folks

I have few bits available on ebay and so should promote them here, I
believe.

ME2 Winder Mint-

100mm F4 Dental macro 'A' series

Some new 6x7 body caps

An LX box!

Some other bits

A couple of interesting flashes:

Cokin Creative Flash

Sunpak 120J Bare Bulb kit

http://www.stores.ebay.co.uk/cameradirectbrightonest1998/plistings/list
/
all/de
pt4/index.html?dir=1col=4sotimedisplay=2

Kind regards from sunny Brighton

Looks like the latest firmware has pushed Peter into a decision -
looking for an *ist D mate?

;-)



Cheers,
  Cotty


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RE: FS Friday: 50mm f/1.4

2004-01-09 Thread Jeff Jonsson
Aha, that's what BH is for!

Jeff Jonsson

-Original Message-
From: Rothman, Aric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 8:59 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: FS Friday: 50mm f/1.4


William,

Thanks for the info.  I wended my way back through recent messages and
found the details.  The ist-D keeps looking better and better.  I really
enjoyed working with it at the store.  The problem is, Pentax lenses
seem hard to come by, at least here in the US.  Does Pentax have a
greater presence elsewhere?  I am planning a trip to Europe this year,
and would love to go on a Pentax glass shopping spree.  Local camera
store/shows don't often have Pentax-made lenses, just the third party
stuff.

Aric

 -Original Message-
 From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 10:45 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: FS Friday: 50mm f/1.4
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Rothman, Aric
 Subject: RE: FS Friday: 50mm f/1.4
 
 
 
  Mark,
 
  What modification had to be made to make the M series lens
 work on the
 ist-D?  I tried to use the very same lens on an
  ist-D at the local shoppe, but could only use it at full aperture.
 
 Camera software update. It was released yesterday.
 
 William Robb
 




RE: Question or better yet, idea

2004-01-09 Thread Jeff Jonsson
I say that since the *ist is not a digital camera per se, there would be
no way to upgrade the firmware, without sending it back to Pentax to
have whatever ROM chip that holds the operating information, upgraded or
replaced.

Jeff.

-Original Message-
From: Boris Liberman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 10:26 AM
To: PDML
Subject: Question or better yet, idea


Hi!

Pentax has proved by giving an example that a camera with crippled mount
is not really so crippled. I wonder, whether they can produce an
firmware upgrade for *ist, MZ-30 and similar cameras...

Especially, with compatibility with M and K lenses, *ist may become
quite attractive camera, right?

What do you say?

Boris




RE: My Meager wedding experience (Was: Cheap bastards? -was: Down off my high-horse... with a thump.)

2004-01-07 Thread Jeff Jonsson
I've read the books, I also warn people about the risks. I'm an amateur,
not inexperienced. ;)

Thanks,
Jeff Jonsson

-Original Message-
From: J. C. O'Connell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 8:16 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: My Meager wedding experience (Was: Cheap bastards? -was:
Down off my high-horse... with a thump.)


For those about to venture into wedding photography,
be careful and buy a few books on it. My wedding photos
and planning was much better after some good reading.
I also felt compelled to warn the client up front that photography
processes are not 100% reliable and there is always a small chance of
something going wrong. That way if something did go wrong they would be
more willing to accept it. Also, when things went right ( they always
did thank God ) they might tend to be a little more thankful for the
photos they did get.. JCO


   J.C. O'Connell   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://jcoconnell.com






RE: wedding photography...ugh!

2004-01-07 Thread Jeff Jonsson
Well, I know for sure it's not To Ride the open steppe, feel the wind
in your face, and have a falcon at your wrist.

-Original Message-
From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 10:47 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: wedding photography...ugh!


Leonard Paris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

If the best life lies in being able to do something you enjoy, and make

a
living at it, then I think Monte is doing pretty well.  Whether we
approve 
of his approach and style or not.  It's just so easy to criticize
successful 
people, when we know we can shoot better than they can.

Oh, but I *couldn't* shoot better than him... within his particular
specialty. I just detest his photos :) If I were going to go into
business doing that kind of work I'd probably study his stuff intently
because it's clearly successful. 

BTW, I thought the best in life was To crush your enemies. To see them
driven before you. To hear the lamentation of their women.

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com




RE: Cheap bastards? -was: Down off my high-horse... with a thump.

2004-01-07 Thread Jeff Jonsson
Wow, must not be in Utah. Around here they literally check your Temple
Recommend card at the door. You can only get one of those from your
local ward bishop. I've been inside a Mormon temple too, right after
they build them, they do publc open houses. Then they dedicate them, and
forevermore bar non-members and even non temple-worthy members.

I'm only talking about Temple Weddings. Once in a rare while, they will
do a wedding in a Ward house (chapel) with the local bishop presiding.
Mainly when one of the parties to the wedding isn't temple worthy. Case
in point, my brother (athiest) married a Mormon and they had a short but
sweet marriage in a Ward house.

Jeff Jonsson

-Original Message-
From: Bob W [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 1:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Cheap bastards? -was: Down off my high-horse... with a
thump.


Hi,

I've been to Mormon weddings and inside Mormon temples, and I'm an
atheist.

-- 
Cheers,
 Bob

Wednesday, January 7, 2004, 7:53:12 PM, you wrote:

 Hey, around these parts (Utah) there are no photogs allowed in the LDS
 (Mormon) Temples. So all the pics the couple gets are portraits 
 outside the Temples with temple as backdrop, and pictures at the 
 receptions. Oh, and non-Mormons are not allowed inside the temples at 
 any time, so as is sometimes the case with converts, one half of the 
 family is not allowed to even GO to the wedding ceremony! Not being 
 Mormon myself, I refuse to call Mormon Weddings Weddings I refer 
 only to them as receptions because that's the only part I'm ever 
 invited to.

 Jeff Jonsson




Getting way OT, Was: RE: Cheap bastards? -was: Down off my high-horse... with a thump.

2004-01-07 Thread Jeff Jonsson
The official LDS church based in Salt Lake City does not practice or
condone Polygamy. Those who practice it are excommunicated from the LDS
Church. However those who practice it do believe in the prophecy of
Joseph Smith, and use The Book of Mormon as their holy text. So I guess
you could call them fundamentalist Mormons. And no, Polygamy is not
legal even in Utah. Believe it or not, with the official Church's
blessing the State of Utah is trying to crack down on Polygamists. In
fact, a Polygamy summit was held by a bunch of county and state
attorney's this summer to formulate a plan to go after them. A big
famous Polygamist, Tom Green, was just sent to prison on a sex with a
minor conviction for sleeping with and impregnating his 14 year old
umpteenth wife.
What pisses me off is that his legal team is now appealing on
the grounds of the Supreme Court's ruling on the Texas Sodomy case. I'm
sorry, but having sex with minors doesn't come under that ruling to my
way of thinking. 
One of the major major problems with Polygamists, is that they
are a huge drain on the welfare system. Because they don't allow the
wives to work outside the home, and can never hope to support their
gigantic families on one Man's salary, they take gobs and gobs of
welfare handouts to support their illegal lifestyle. I hope the State
does come down on them and come down hard.

Jeff Jonsson

-Original Message-
From: J. C. O'Connell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 1:15 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Cheap bastards? -was: Down off my high-horse... with a
thump.


Aren't the mormons the ones that engage in legal polygamy?
jco


   J.C. O'Connell   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://jcoconnell.com



-Original Message-
From: Bob W [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 3:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Cheap bastards? -was: Down off my high-horse... with a
thump.


Hi,

I've been to Mormon weddings and inside Mormon temples, and I'm an
atheist.

--
Cheers,
 Bob

Wednesday, January 7, 2004, 7:53:12 PM, you wrote:

 Hey, around these parts (Utah) there are no photogs allowed in the LDS
 (Mormon) Temples. So all the pics the couple gets are portraits 
 outside the Temples with temple as backdrop, and pictures at the 
 receptions. Oh, and non-Mormons are not allowed inside the temples at 
 any time, so as is sometimes the case with converts, one half of the 
 family is not allowed to even GO to the wedding ceremony! Not being 
 Mormon myself, I refuse to call Mormon Weddings Weddings I refer 
 only to them as receptions because that's the only part I'm ever 
 invited to.

 Jeff Jonsson




RE: Cheap bastards? -was: Down off my high-horse... with a thump.

2004-01-07 Thread Jeff Jonsson
Judging by what you've said, and I don't want to pee in your cornflakes
here, but I'd say you went to the Ward, not a temple. They don't have
sacrament meetings in Temples. Only Ward houses. Also your non-mormon
friend marrying a Mormon would not have been married in the temple.
(Temples weddings are actually 'sealings' where the couple is sealed
together in this world, and the next, through a vaguely Masonic ritual,
wholly unlike any wedding you've ever seen.) Weddings in Ward houses
have almost no more significance to Mormons than a Civil marriage. Ask
my brother. Temple weddings are what all of the faithful aspire to.

Jeff Jonsson

-Original Message-
From: Bob W [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 1:52 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Cheap bastards? -was: Down off my high-horse... with a
thump.


Hi,

 Wow, must not be in Utah.

France and England. When I was 14 I went with a school friend to stay
with our pen-friends in Reims. We were looking forward to 2 weeks of
binge-drinking and chasing French girls. Turned out our pen-friends'
family was Mormon. We were very disappointed. They dragged us along to
the temple on Sundays and we took communion. We were quite excited at
first, but they turned the wine into water. Even then I was an atheist.

Luckily they were not too strict on other dietary matters. They had
bought a teapot and some tea especially for us. They brewed up and
served it to us at 5 o'clock precisely every day, and watched while we
drank it.

Later one of my friends - not a Mormon - married into a Mormon family.
The wedding took place in the temple in Leeds, UK. As far as I know,
nobody was excluded for not being a Mormon. Certainly all her family and
friends were there. The reception was in a different place. Very
strange, a wedding reception with no booze.

-- 
Cheers,
 Bob




Flash Photography and *istD revisited.

2004-01-07 Thread Jeff Jonsson
I have also noticed that my Sunpak MZ-440AF just completely overexposes
everything when attached to my *istD. I was beginning to think something
was wrong with it. I've used it with my PZ-1p, and ZX-5n with no
problems, in fact been very happy with it. Shot a couple of weddings
with it in fact... I only have one other TTL flash for Pentax, the
AF220T and that seems to do a slightly better job, but it isn't very
spanky. I want to get the AF360FGZ, but I'll hold off if people think
there's a real firmware issue that needs to be solved. Of course Pentax
has never been speedy at anything, so I wouldn't count on a firmware
upgrade any time soon... Unless we all begin flooding their mailboxes
with complaints about TTL flash exposures...

I think tonight I'll try out my 285HV and see how that does. Does
anybody think that's a bad idea? I know they've had some voltage issues
in the past, particularly with the 283, but mine is a fairly new 285,
and I've used it successfully on my PZ.

Thanks,
Jeff Jonsson
Marriott Library, University of Utah
801.585.5587